1 00:00:02,680 --> 00:00:07,200 Speaker 1: Bloomberg Audio Studios, Podcasts, radio News. 2 00:00:10,200 --> 00:00:13,040 Speaker 2: Good morning, I'm Nathan Hager and I'm John Tucker. Here 3 00:00:13,039 --> 00:00:14,640 Speaker 2: are these stories we're following today. 4 00:00:14,880 --> 00:00:17,959 Speaker 3: Stocks around the world have recovered their losses from last 5 00:00:17,960 --> 00:00:21,319 Speaker 3: month's Rose Garden tariff announcement from President Trump. That's after 6 00:00:21,360 --> 00:00:24,239 Speaker 3: the US and China agreed to roll back triple digit 7 00:00:24,360 --> 00:00:27,479 Speaker 3: tariffs against each other for ninety days. In White House 8 00:00:27,480 --> 00:00:30,560 Speaker 3: remarks heard on Bloomberg Radio, the President called it a 9 00:00:30,640 --> 00:00:33,360 Speaker 3: total reset of the US China relationship. 10 00:00:34,240 --> 00:00:37,880 Speaker 4: The relationship is very good. We're not looking to hurt China. 11 00:00:37,960 --> 00:00:40,920 Speaker 4: China was being hurt very badly, and they were closing 12 00:00:40,960 --> 00:00:43,120 Speaker 4: up factories. They were having a lot of unrest. 13 00:00:44,040 --> 00:00:46,560 Speaker 3: But President Trump did not mention that the deal meant 14 00:00:46,600 --> 00:00:49,640 Speaker 3: nearly all of China's demands, including suspension of the so 15 00:00:49,720 --> 00:00:52,559 Speaker 3: called reciprocal terariff rate of thirty four percent and a 16 00:00:52,640 --> 00:00:56,360 Speaker 3: point person for further talks still. Caroline Freud, a non 17 00:00:56,400 --> 00:00:59,440 Speaker 3: resident Senior Fellow at the Peterson Institute, says both sides 18 00:00:59,480 --> 00:01:01,040 Speaker 3: had good reas to de escalate. 19 00:01:01,480 --> 00:01:05,640 Speaker 5: It was really unsustainable for both countries for different reasons. 20 00:01:06,080 --> 00:01:10,000 Speaker 5: It was unsustainable for the US because there's a lot 21 00:01:10,000 --> 00:01:13,480 Speaker 5: of things we need from China, and it was unsustainable 22 00:01:13,520 --> 00:01:17,600 Speaker 5: for China because they need to manufacture things and sell them, 23 00:01:17,680 --> 00:01:20,920 Speaker 5: and the US is a huge market, so both sides 24 00:01:21,000 --> 00:01:23,880 Speaker 5: really had a lot of incentive to make a deal. 25 00:01:24,080 --> 00:01:26,920 Speaker 3: It's Caroline Freud of the Peterson Institute, and China may 26 00:01:26,920 --> 00:01:29,559 Speaker 3: have made at least one concession to the US. Sources 27 00:01:29,600 --> 00:01:32,200 Speaker 3: tel Bloomberg News, China has lifted a month long ban 28 00:01:32,360 --> 00:01:35,759 Speaker 3: on airlines taking deliveries of Boeing planes, and of. 29 00:01:35,720 --> 00:01:38,920 Speaker 2: Course investors were cheering the US China trade agreement, the 30 00:01:38,959 --> 00:01:41,240 Speaker 2: SMP five hundred surging three and a quarter percent, well 31 00:01:41,280 --> 00:01:44,160 Speaker 2: that n asdak rallied four and a third percent, as 32 00:01:44,160 --> 00:01:47,880 Speaker 2: some Wall Street titans also applauding the easing of tensions. 33 00:01:48,240 --> 00:01:50,880 Speaker 2: We caught up with Citadel founder Ken Griffin. 34 00:01:51,160 --> 00:01:54,840 Speaker 6: To see the US Secretary Treasury come to a Meetia 35 00:01:54,840 --> 00:01:58,760 Speaker 6: the minds with the Chinese leadership. Was an important moment 36 00:01:59,160 --> 00:02:02,680 Speaker 6: between our two nations. And I'd like to take this 37 00:02:02,960 --> 00:02:05,560 Speaker 6: not as a as a moment in time or reflect 38 00:02:05,600 --> 00:02:09,360 Speaker 6: upon the fragility of what's been accomplished, but rather to 39 00:02:09,400 --> 00:02:12,560 Speaker 6: focus on the fact that we have opened the doors 40 00:02:13,120 --> 00:02:14,280 Speaker 6: to a negotiation. 41 00:02:15,200 --> 00:02:16,400 Speaker 4: And I do believe that the. 42 00:02:16,360 --> 00:02:20,040 Speaker 6: Actions of both parties makes it clear that we want 43 00:02:20,080 --> 00:02:21,560 Speaker 6: to find common ground. 44 00:02:21,840 --> 00:02:25,000 Speaker 2: Citadel founder Ken Griffin making the comments in an interview 45 00:02:25,000 --> 00:02:28,240 Speaker 2: with Bloomberg Shanali Bassik for an episode of the upcoming 46 00:02:28,320 --> 00:02:33,200 Speaker 2: series Bullish for Bloomberg Originals of the Four Seasons in Miami. 47 00:02:32,960 --> 00:02:36,359 Speaker 3: Well John President Trump is in Saudi Arabia. He has 48 00:02:36,440 --> 00:02:38,240 Speaker 3: arrived for the start of a four day tour of 49 00:02:38,280 --> 00:02:41,640 Speaker 3: the Middle East, greeted personally by Crown Prince Mohammed Ben 50 00:02:41,720 --> 00:02:45,880 Speaker 3: Salmon and the tarmac. The President's Treasury Secretary Scott Bessant 51 00:02:46,080 --> 00:02:49,320 Speaker 3: is also in the Kingdom, attending a Saudi US investment 52 00:02:49,360 --> 00:02:51,960 Speaker 3: for him in Rio, and Besson talked about the chances 53 00:02:52,000 --> 00:02:53,959 Speaker 3: of a trade agreement with the European Union. 54 00:02:54,440 --> 00:02:59,280 Speaker 2: May have a collective action problem that the Italians want 55 00:02:59,320 --> 00:03:03,280 Speaker 2: something than the French, but I'm sure at the end 56 00:03:03,280 --> 00:03:06,799 Speaker 2: of the day we will reach a satisfactory conclusion. 57 00:03:07,000 --> 00:03:09,840 Speaker 3: And Treasury Secretary Scott Besson added the US has had 58 00:03:09,919 --> 00:03:13,920 Speaker 3: very productive discussions with Japan, anti priced conversations with Indonesia 59 00:03:13,960 --> 00:03:17,360 Speaker 3: as well as a quote very good proposal from Taiwan. 60 00:03:17,240 --> 00:03:20,160 Speaker 2: And the easing of global trade tensions has on Wall 61 00:03:20,160 --> 00:03:23,639 Speaker 2: Street firm boosting its price target for US stocks. Let's 62 00:03:23,680 --> 00:03:25,880 Speaker 2: get that story from Bloomberg's Gena Cervetti. 63 00:03:26,320 --> 00:03:29,480 Speaker 7: Goldman Sachs Group says the buy America trade may be back. 64 00:03:29,720 --> 00:03:32,880 Speaker 7: The firm now sees the SMP five hundred index reaching 65 00:03:32,919 --> 00:03:36,120 Speaker 7: sixty five hundred in the next twelve months. That's three 66 00:03:36,240 --> 00:03:39,520 Speaker 7: hundred points higher than its previous estimate and a gain 67 00:03:39,600 --> 00:03:43,360 Speaker 7: of about eleven percent from yesterday's close. Goldman had cut 68 00:03:43,360 --> 00:03:47,400 Speaker 7: its SMP five hundred forecasts twice in March, citing higher 69 00:03:47,440 --> 00:03:51,080 Speaker 7: recession risk and tariff related uncertainty. The firm says, while 70 00:03:51,160 --> 00:03:54,080 Speaker 7: such concerns have eased with the latest truce between the 71 00:03:54,160 --> 00:03:57,920 Speaker 7: US and China, the broader earnings outlook still remains uneven. 72 00:03:58,080 --> 00:04:00,640 Speaker 7: In New York, Gena Cervetti bloom Radio. 73 00:04:00,800 --> 00:04:01,720 Speaker 4: All right, Gina, thank you. 74 00:04:01,760 --> 00:04:04,680 Speaker 3: As investors remain focused on the latest trade developments, they'll 75 00:04:04,720 --> 00:04:08,040 Speaker 3: also have a key economic report to digest later this morning, 76 00:04:08,040 --> 00:04:10,520 Speaker 3: when we get the consumer price index from the month 77 00:04:10,560 --> 00:04:11,080 Speaker 3: of April. 78 00:04:11,320 --> 00:04:14,120 Speaker 4: Let's get a preview now from Bloomberg's Michael McKee. 79 00:04:14,480 --> 00:04:17,600 Speaker 8: This is the first inflation report that may offer evidence 80 00:04:17,680 --> 00:04:21,920 Speaker 8: that Trump's import taxes are raising prices. The consensus is 81 00:04:21,960 --> 00:04:25,600 Speaker 8: for a fairly strong increase in headline and core prices, 82 00:04:25,680 --> 00:04:29,920 Speaker 8: even as gasoline fell in April. Autos and some consumer 83 00:04:29,920 --> 00:04:32,920 Speaker 8: goods may move higher, although the biggest increases won't come 84 00:04:33,000 --> 00:04:35,880 Speaker 8: until May or June. Economists will still be watching the 85 00:04:35,920 --> 00:04:40,560 Speaker 8: traditional inflation sources as well, particularly housing, to see if 86 00:04:40,800 --> 00:04:44,200 Speaker 8: non Trump inflation is making progress towards the FEDS two 87 00:04:44,200 --> 00:04:47,080 Speaker 8: percent target. Michael McKee, Bloomberg Radio, All. 88 00:04:47,080 --> 00:04:50,039 Speaker 2: Right, thanks Mike. Staying in Washington, Republicans on the House 89 00:04:50,080 --> 00:04:53,960 Speaker 2: Tax Committee, they've released details of Donald Trump's multi trillion 90 00:04:54,080 --> 00:04:57,440 Speaker 2: dollar tax cut bill. That story from Bloomberg Sammy Morris. 91 00:04:57,880 --> 00:05:00,840 Speaker 9: The legislation aims to cut taxes by more than four 92 00:05:00,920 --> 00:05:03,719 Speaker 9: trillion dollars and reduce spending by at least one and 93 00:05:03,760 --> 00:05:06,919 Speaker 9: a half trillion over a decade. It also raises the 94 00:05:06,960 --> 00:05:10,600 Speaker 9: state and local tax cap to thirty thousand dollars for individuals. 95 00:05:10,880 --> 00:05:14,919 Speaker 9: Former North Carolina Republican Congressman Pat McHenry wonders if that 96 00:05:15,000 --> 00:05:16,640 Speaker 9: will be enough for some lawmakers. 97 00:05:16,720 --> 00:05:18,680 Speaker 3: The question of whether or not thirty thousand is going 98 00:05:18,720 --> 00:05:20,479 Speaker 3: to be sufficient for them, We're going to see. 99 00:05:20,520 --> 00:05:21,240 Speaker 10: We're going to see in a. 100 00:05:21,360 --> 00:05:25,440 Speaker 6: Very public way, these are the most public Republicans in 101 00:05:25,480 --> 00:05:26,440 Speaker 6: the House representats. 102 00:05:26,480 --> 00:05:29,560 Speaker 9: The legislation also proposes raising the debt limit by four 103 00:05:29,680 --> 00:05:33,320 Speaker 9: trillion dollars. It does not include President Trump's proposal for 104 00:05:33,480 --> 00:05:37,520 Speaker 9: a millionaire tax bracket. In Washington, Amy Morris Bloomberg Radio, all. 105 00:05:37,440 --> 00:05:38,200 Speaker 4: Right, Amy, thank you. 106 00:05:38,240 --> 00:05:40,200 Speaker 3: In the US appears to be on track for a 107 00:05:40,320 --> 00:05:43,160 Speaker 3: very bad tourism year. According to new data from the 108 00:05:43,200 --> 00:05:45,760 Speaker 3: World Travel and Tourism Council, the US is set to 109 00:05:45,800 --> 00:05:48,920 Speaker 3: lose twelve and a half billion dollars in travel revenue 110 00:05:49,000 --> 00:05:52,520 Speaker 3: in twenty twenty five. Visitor spending is estimated to fall 111 00:05:52,600 --> 00:05:55,560 Speaker 3: under one hundred and sixty nine billion dollars by year's end. 112 00:05:55,800 --> 00:05:59,520 Speaker 3: These numbers represented decline of around seven percent, a year 113 00:05:59,560 --> 00:06:03,279 Speaker 3: over year decline of twenty two percent since tourism peaked 114 00:06:03,279 --> 00:06:06,760 Speaker 3: in the US in twenty nineteen. The decline is attributed 115 00:06:06,760 --> 00:06:10,480 Speaker 3: to Lady lingering, COVID era requirements, a strong dollar, and 116 00:06:10,560 --> 00:06:13,159 Speaker 3: a shift in people's views due to the current administration's 117 00:06:13,200 --> 00:06:15,120 Speaker 3: America First rhetoric and policy. 118 00:06:18,240 --> 00:06:20,280 Speaker 2: All right, thanks, Nathan, it's time now for it. I 119 00:06:20,320 --> 00:06:22,000 Speaker 2: look at some of the other stories making news in 120 00:06:22,040 --> 00:06:24,960 Speaker 2: New York and around the world. After that, we're joined 121 00:06:25,000 --> 00:06:27,280 Speaker 2: by Bloombergs Michael Barr Michael, good morning. 122 00:06:27,160 --> 00:06:29,360 Speaker 11: Good morning John. It is the start of day two 123 00:06:29,480 --> 00:06:33,120 Speaker 11: of testimony in the sex trafficking and racketeering trial of 124 00:06:33,200 --> 00:06:37,800 Speaker 11: music mogul Sean Diddy Combs. Yesterday, prosecutors played the CNN 125 00:06:37,920 --> 00:06:41,680 Speaker 11: video for the jury. The surveillance video shows Combs chasing 126 00:06:41,760 --> 00:06:46,000 Speaker 11: then girlfriend Cassie Ventur down a hotel hallway, knocking her 127 00:06:46,040 --> 00:06:49,880 Speaker 11: to the floor, and kicking her. During opening statements, prosecutors 128 00:06:49,880 --> 00:06:53,880 Speaker 11: say it's what happened after Ventur tried to escape one 129 00:06:53,920 --> 00:06:57,479 Speaker 11: of the sex performances. The defense claiming the video shows 130 00:06:57,520 --> 00:07:01,039 Speaker 11: a fight over a cell phone. His own lawyers acknowledged 131 00:07:01,040 --> 00:07:04,479 Speaker 11: Combs was violent at times, arguing that does not make 132 00:07:04,520 --> 00:07:08,280 Speaker 11: Combs a sex trafficker or part of a rocketeering conspiracy. 133 00:07:08,680 --> 00:07:12,040 Speaker 11: Attorney Arriva Martin talked about the challenge for the government. 134 00:07:12,600 --> 00:07:16,080 Speaker 5: We know a lot of people don't understand why victims 135 00:07:16,080 --> 00:07:19,040 Speaker 5: of sex trafficking don't come forward sooner and faster. 136 00:07:19,120 --> 00:07:20,880 Speaker 8: Why don't they go to the police. Why don't they 137 00:07:20,880 --> 00:07:23,560 Speaker 8: report this to friends and to others. So that's going 138 00:07:23,600 --> 00:07:25,120 Speaker 8: to be the question these jurors have. 139 00:07:25,080 --> 00:07:27,000 Speaker 2: To grapple with today. 140 00:07:27,160 --> 00:07:30,800 Speaker 11: Cassie Ventur is expected to take the witness stand. Hamas 141 00:07:30,840 --> 00:07:35,560 Speaker 11: has freed the last living American citizen held hostage in Gaza, Eden, Alexander. 142 00:07:35,960 --> 00:07:39,360 Speaker 11: Alexander met up with his younger brother in a joyous celebration. 143 00:07:39,840 --> 00:07:40,720 Speaker 3: Is much. 144 00:07:43,800 --> 00:07:47,360 Speaker 11: Alexander was captured during a Hamas attack in October twenty 145 00:07:47,400 --> 00:07:51,480 Speaker 11: twenty three. Former President Joe Biden is being evaluated after 146 00:07:51,520 --> 00:07:55,760 Speaker 11: a small nodule was discovered on his prostate. A spokesman 147 00:07:55,840 --> 00:07:58,240 Speaker 11: told The New York Times mister Biden, who was eighty two, 148 00:07:58,560 --> 00:08:01,760 Speaker 11: spent last Friday at a hostel Bittle in Philadelphia, says 149 00:08:01,800 --> 00:08:06,600 Speaker 11: the nodule required further evaluation. Two New York Republican lawmakers, 150 00:08:06,600 --> 00:08:10,040 Speaker 11: Mike Lawler and Nick Lolota, vowed to block their party's 151 00:08:10,080 --> 00:08:14,880 Speaker 11: tax legislation unless the proposed thirty thousand limit on the 152 00:08:14,880 --> 00:08:20,200 Speaker 11: federal income tax deduction for state and local taxes is increased. Lawler, 153 00:08:20,280 --> 00:08:24,040 Speaker 11: speaking to Bloomberg, called the proposed salt limit woefully inadequate. 154 00:08:24,520 --> 00:08:27,160 Speaker 10: When the Tax Cousin Jobs Act expires at the end 155 00:08:27,200 --> 00:08:30,880 Speaker 10: of this year, salt comes back unlimited, and so in 156 00:08:31,000 --> 00:08:34,520 Speaker 10: order for there to be a tax bill that would 157 00:08:34,559 --> 00:08:37,559 Speaker 10: actually put a cap in place, it has to adequately 158 00:08:37,600 --> 00:08:40,160 Speaker 10: address the concerns of my constituents. 159 00:08:40,400 --> 00:08:45,080 Speaker 11: Other Republicans, including Andrew Garabino, Elise Stefanik, and Young Kim 160 00:08:45,160 --> 00:08:48,560 Speaker 11: have also rejected the salt cap Global News twenty four 161 00:08:48,559 --> 00:08:50,559 Speaker 11: hours a day and whenever you want it with the 162 00:08:50,600 --> 00:08:53,760 Speaker 11: Bloomberg News Now, Michael Barr, this is Bloomberg. 163 00:08:53,840 --> 00:08:59,520 Speaker 2: John, all right, Michael, thank you. Yeah, that brings us 164 00:08:59,520 --> 00:09:01,240 Speaker 2: to five. He had on Wall Street Time now for 165 00:09:01,240 --> 00:09:04,720 Speaker 2: the Bloomberg Sports Up Day. Empathetic and Chris John stash here, John, good. 166 00:09:04,559 --> 00:09:05,560 Speaker 4: Morning, Good morning John. 167 00:09:05,600 --> 00:09:08,280 Speaker 12: The Knicks, in Game four with the Celtics at the Garden, 168 00:09:08,400 --> 00:09:11,400 Speaker 12: found themselves trailing for the fourth straight time in the series. 169 00:09:11,440 --> 00:09:13,920 Speaker 12: Boston had a fourteen point lead in the third quarter. 170 00:09:14,080 --> 00:09:16,240 Speaker 12: Jalen Brunson led the Knicks back. 171 00:09:16,520 --> 00:09:19,160 Speaker 2: Brunson, still looking falling Away puts it up. 172 00:09:19,160 --> 00:09:22,160 Speaker 4: That skirt tail and Brunson does it again. It's a 173 00:09:22,160 --> 00:09:22,920 Speaker 4: two point. 174 00:09:22,760 --> 00:09:23,960 Speaker 11: Game, time out. 175 00:09:24,000 --> 00:09:28,400 Speaker 12: Boston drives into the paint, pulls back, looks. 176 00:09:28,240 --> 00:09:29,840 Speaker 4: Up at the shot clock. He's gotta get it off. 177 00:09:29,880 --> 00:09:33,599 Speaker 4: Falling Away, puts it up, puts it in. Brunson. Parage 178 00:09:33,640 --> 00:09:34,800 Speaker 4: here of the third quarter of. 179 00:09:34,840 --> 00:09:37,880 Speaker 12: The game is time on ESPN The Knicks won that 180 00:09:37,920 --> 00:09:40,640 Speaker 12: third quarter thirty seven to twenty three Bruns and had 181 00:09:40,640 --> 00:09:42,680 Speaker 12: more than half those Nick points. They went on to 182 00:09:42,679 --> 00:09:45,040 Speaker 12: win one twenty one point thirteen, now have a three 183 00:09:45,120 --> 00:09:48,480 Speaker 12: games to one lead runs and finished with thirty nine points. Connel, 184 00:09:48,480 --> 00:09:50,880 Speaker 12: Anthony Towns and Mchal Bridges both at in twenty three. 185 00:09:51,200 --> 00:09:54,640 Speaker 12: Jason Tatum was tremendous in leading the Celtics. He scored 186 00:09:54,920 --> 00:09:57,600 Speaker 12: forty two points. He made seven three pointers, and then 187 00:09:57,679 --> 00:10:01,240 Speaker 12: Tatum's night, and very possibly his season, came to an 188 00:10:01,320 --> 00:10:04,959 Speaker 12: end with three minutes left a non contact lower leg injury. 189 00:10:05,000 --> 00:10:07,800 Speaker 12: He was seen later in a wheelchair with his head 190 00:10:07,800 --> 00:10:09,720 Speaker 12: in his hands. Heata will have an MRI today, but 191 00:10:09,760 --> 00:10:12,120 Speaker 12: the Celtics may very well have to try and make 192 00:10:12,200 --> 00:10:15,360 Speaker 12: the series come back without their star player. Golden State 193 00:10:15,400 --> 00:10:17,640 Speaker 12: has been without its best player and without Steph Curry. 194 00:10:17,679 --> 00:10:20,160 Speaker 12: The Warriors lost for a third straight time Minnesota one 195 00:10:20,440 --> 00:10:22,880 Speaker 12: one seventeen to one ten. The te Wolves also up 196 00:10:22,920 --> 00:10:26,120 Speaker 12: three to one. The Dallas Mavericks, who took considerable heat 197 00:10:26,160 --> 00:10:28,520 Speaker 12: for trading Luca Donzon's, got some good news winning the 198 00:10:28,600 --> 00:10:31,200 Speaker 12: draft lottery. They had a less than two percent chance. 199 00:10:31,240 --> 00:10:32,559 Speaker 4: The MAVs will now be. 200 00:10:32,480 --> 00:10:35,440 Speaker 12: Expected to draft Dukes Cooper Flag Stanley Cup playff home 201 00:10:35,480 --> 00:10:37,959 Speaker 12: wins for Carolina and Edmonton, both up three to one. 202 00:10:38,040 --> 00:10:40,760 Speaker 12: Yankees in Seattle had four home runs, two by Trent Grisham. 203 00:10:40,760 --> 00:10:43,360 Speaker 12: They won eleven to five, but the Yanks suffered where 204 00:10:43,400 --> 00:10:46,600 Speaker 12: looks like a serious injury to Oswaldo Cabrera hurt his 205 00:10:46,679 --> 00:10:48,960 Speaker 12: ankles sliding at home. He was taking off the field 206 00:10:49,000 --> 00:10:51,319 Speaker 12: in an ambulance. Mets scored by the night through the 207 00:10:51,360 --> 00:10:53,880 Speaker 12: Pirates four to three. Nationals lost in Atlanta four to three, 208 00:10:53,920 --> 00:10:56,560 Speaker 12: and the Red Socks lost in Detroit fourteen to two. 209 00:10:56,920 --> 00:10:58,920 Speaker 12: John Staneshawer Bloomberg Sports, John and. 210 00:10:58,920 --> 00:11:05,120 Speaker 1: Naple Coast to Coast on Bloomberg Radio nationwide on Serious 211 00:11:05,200 --> 00:11:08,560 Speaker 1: Exam and around the world on Bloomberg dot Com and 212 00:11:08,600 --> 00:11:11,800 Speaker 1: the Bloomberg Business app. This is Bloomberg Daybreak. 213 00:11:11,920 --> 00:11:13,320 Speaker 4: Good morning, I'm Nathan Hager. 214 00:11:13,400 --> 00:11:15,559 Speaker 3: The US says it is now in a good position 215 00:11:15,640 --> 00:11:19,439 Speaker 3: to negotiate with China after last weekend's trade talks in Geneva, 216 00:11:19,520 --> 00:11:22,520 Speaker 3: but the rollback of one hundred and forty five percent 217 00:11:22,600 --> 00:11:26,560 Speaker 3: tariffs on China down to thirty may validate Chinese President 218 00:11:26,679 --> 00:11:29,600 Speaker 3: Xi Jinpingk's decision to hold firm in the standoff, and 219 00:11:29,640 --> 00:11:33,720 Speaker 3: now President she says, China stands ready to defend multilateral trade. 220 00:11:34,080 --> 00:11:35,120 Speaker 2: May there are. 221 00:11:35,080 --> 00:11:37,960 Speaker 4: No winners in tariff wars or trade wars. 222 00:11:39,400 --> 00:11:44,000 Speaker 13: Bullying or hegeminism only leads to self isolation. 223 00:11:44,360 --> 00:11:47,199 Speaker 3: That was Chinese President Chijin Pink speaking through an interpreter 224 00:11:47,240 --> 00:11:50,480 Speaker 3: in an economic forum with Latin American states in Beijing 225 00:11:50,960 --> 00:11:54,720 Speaker 3: joining US now. Bloomberg News Senior editor Bill Ferries, Bill, 226 00:11:54,760 --> 00:11:56,600 Speaker 3: good morning. I know we're only a day away from 227 00:11:56,600 --> 00:12:00,640 Speaker 3: the announcement of the outcome of the Geneva talks, but 228 00:12:00,760 --> 00:12:03,079 Speaker 3: is it too soon to say who's got an upper 229 00:12:03,080 --> 00:12:04,840 Speaker 3: hand now, the US or China? 230 00:12:04,880 --> 00:12:07,320 Speaker 4: Good morning, Good morning, Nathan. 231 00:12:07,480 --> 00:12:10,520 Speaker 13: Yeah, it does seem that China has really gotten a 232 00:12:10,520 --> 00:12:13,240 Speaker 13: lot of its key demands met so far. I mean, 233 00:12:13,240 --> 00:12:16,800 Speaker 13: when these very high US tariffs went in place one 234 00:12:16,840 --> 00:12:20,520 Speaker 13: hundred and forty five percent on Chinese imports, you heard 235 00:12:20,520 --> 00:12:24,360 Speaker 13: from Trump administration officials saying that China couldn't afford to 236 00:12:24,679 --> 00:12:28,040 Speaker 13: hold out, that they needed the US market more than 237 00:12:28,080 --> 00:12:31,760 Speaker 13: the US needed the Chinese market, and that eventually, you 238 00:12:31,760 --> 00:12:33,720 Speaker 13: know that China wanted to have a meeting and would 239 00:12:33,720 --> 00:12:36,280 Speaker 13: call a meeting. In the end, it looked like both 240 00:12:36,320 --> 00:12:39,280 Speaker 13: sides were feeling some economic pain. But the end result 241 00:12:39,360 --> 00:12:42,360 Speaker 13: from this weekend really does seem to be we're back 242 00:12:42,400 --> 00:12:45,040 Speaker 13: to where we were in late March early April with 243 00:12:45,640 --> 00:12:51,520 Speaker 13: the US thirty percent tariffs and lower Chinese ten percent tariffs. 244 00:12:51,720 --> 00:12:54,720 Speaker 13: It's not clear that there's any agreement on market access. 245 00:12:54,760 --> 00:12:58,760 Speaker 13: It's not clear that there's very really, very much achieved 246 00:12:58,800 --> 00:13:03,120 Speaker 13: beyond a very ultuous past six or seven weeks. And 247 00:13:03,640 --> 00:13:07,080 Speaker 13: what Scott Besstt was saying today in Saudi Arabia was 248 00:13:07,080 --> 00:13:11,320 Speaker 13: that they have opened this channel of formal talks between 249 00:13:11,320 --> 00:13:14,319 Speaker 13: the US and China. That's not necessarily something you needed 250 00:13:14,320 --> 00:13:16,840 Speaker 13: the tariffs to do, but it is the result of 251 00:13:16,880 --> 00:13:18,920 Speaker 13: what's been happening over the last several weeks. 252 00:13:19,120 --> 00:13:22,400 Speaker 3: And to your point, Bill, the Treasury Secretary says that 253 00:13:22,480 --> 00:13:27,400 Speaker 3: the first Trump trade deal with China gives them a 254 00:13:27,520 --> 00:13:30,160 Speaker 3: very good framework to work with to try to get 255 00:13:30,520 --> 00:13:34,720 Speaker 3: a newer deal rebalancing of trade. But is that tougher 256 00:13:34,760 --> 00:13:38,000 Speaker 3: now to get a rebalancing since China's held out the 257 00:13:38,040 --> 00:13:38,520 Speaker 3: way it has. 258 00:13:39,400 --> 00:13:41,400 Speaker 13: Yeah, I think China is going to see you know, 259 00:13:41,640 --> 00:13:44,160 Speaker 13: they're in this ninety day period where they're supposed to 260 00:13:44,520 --> 00:13:49,640 Speaker 13: make more progress on limiting the export of products that 261 00:13:49,720 --> 00:13:52,480 Speaker 13: go into making fentanyl. They're looking to see if there's 262 00:13:52,520 --> 00:13:56,640 Speaker 13: agreements they can make in certain sectors. But I think, 263 00:13:56,720 --> 00:14:00,760 Speaker 13: you know, China never fully bought into that that original 264 00:14:00,840 --> 00:14:03,360 Speaker 13: trade deal that required them to buy two hundred billion 265 00:14:03,400 --> 00:14:05,800 Speaker 13: dollars in US goods. I think it's going to be 266 00:14:05,880 --> 00:14:08,840 Speaker 13: hard to increase that kind of an agreement when you 267 00:14:08,880 --> 00:14:11,880 Speaker 13: haven't met the terms of the initial agreement. So it's 268 00:14:11,880 --> 00:14:14,199 Speaker 13: not clear what the next ninety days will bring. There 269 00:14:14,200 --> 00:14:16,840 Speaker 13: will be more talks, there might be progress on fentanyl. 270 00:14:17,559 --> 00:14:20,320 Speaker 13: Part of the thirty percent tariff on Chinese goods is 271 00:14:20,320 --> 00:14:24,160 Speaker 13: this twenty percent that's supposed to be based on progress 272 00:14:24,240 --> 00:14:26,520 Speaker 13: on fentanyl, So there is a chance that could come down. 273 00:14:26,800 --> 00:14:29,280 Speaker 13: One thing Scott Bessett made clear is that he sees 274 00:14:29,320 --> 00:14:32,920 Speaker 13: ten percent as a floor going forward, and that's still 275 00:14:33,000 --> 00:14:37,520 Speaker 13: significantly higher than the tariff's Chinese goods faced when the 276 00:14:37,560 --> 00:14:39,440 Speaker 13: administration took office in January. 277 00:14:39,640 --> 00:14:42,200 Speaker 3: And now, as you mentioned, the focus does turn to 278 00:14:42,240 --> 00:14:45,280 Speaker 3: the Middle East. It's not just Treasury Secretary Besant who's there, 279 00:14:45,280 --> 00:14:48,520 Speaker 3: but President Trump has arrived. He's getting a tour with 280 00:14:48,800 --> 00:14:51,920 Speaker 3: the Saudi Crown. Prints what kind of outcomes can we 281 00:14:52,000 --> 00:14:54,920 Speaker 3: expect from the President's. 282 00:14:54,480 --> 00:14:56,280 Speaker 4: Visit to the Middle East. Got about a minute left. 283 00:14:56,760 --> 00:15:01,040 Speaker 13: I would expect to get some details about and more 284 00:15:01,080 --> 00:15:04,760 Speaker 13: broadly Middle Eastern investments in the US. At one point, 285 00:15:05,240 --> 00:15:07,400 Speaker 13: you know, Donald Trump was asking for more than a 286 00:15:07,440 --> 00:15:11,600 Speaker 13: trillion dollars in investments to come in from Saudi Arabia 287 00:15:11,600 --> 00:15:13,600 Speaker 13: in the Middle East. I don't know if we'll get 288 00:15:13,640 --> 00:15:15,960 Speaker 13: all of that, but that's going to certainly be drumming up. 289 00:15:16,000 --> 00:15:17,600 Speaker 13: Business is going to be a big part of this. 290 00:15:18,360 --> 00:15:21,480 Speaker 13: There is going to be some questions about this ceasefire 291 00:15:21,560 --> 00:15:24,600 Speaker 13: with the Hooties and whether the Red Sea will really 292 00:15:24,640 --> 00:15:27,280 Speaker 13: reopen to shipping. It hasn't happened yet, and I don't 293 00:15:27,320 --> 00:15:30,480 Speaker 13: think there's a lot of expectations that that's on the horizon, 294 00:15:30,560 --> 00:15:33,640 Speaker 13: but it's certainly going to be. 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