WEBVTT - Ep. 421: What Would Dan Johnson Do? 0:00:02.920 --> 0:00:06.480 Welcome to the Wired to Hunt podcast, your home for 0:00:06.600 --> 0:00:11.560 deer hunting news, stories and strategies, and now your host, 0:00:11.920 --> 0:00:17.040 Mark Kenyon. Welcome to the Wired to Hunt Podcast. I'm 0:00:17.040 --> 0:00:20.360 your host, Mark Kenyan, and this is episode number four one, 0:00:20.760 --> 0:00:23.480 and today I've got the one and only Dan Johnson 0:00:23.520 --> 0:00:26.639 of Sportsman's Nation on the show, and I'm running through 0:00:26.680 --> 0:00:30.080 my what would you do gauntlet of challenging deer hunting 0:00:30.120 --> 0:00:39.200 situations to see exactly how he handled them. All right, 0:00:39.240 --> 0:00:42.599 Welcome to the Wired to Hunt Podcast, brought to you 0:00:42.640 --> 0:00:46.800 by First Light. Today we have got a treat, a 0:00:46.920 --> 0:00:49.920 treat of treats, especially for those of you who are 0:00:50.600 --> 0:00:54.440 longtime listeners, those of you who who yearned for the 0:00:54.520 --> 0:00:58.040 days of old when me and Dan Johnson got to 0:00:58.040 --> 0:01:00.640 talk every week, back before we had night teen kids 0:01:00.680 --> 0:01:04.560 between us, and seventy two different projects and all manner 0:01:04.560 --> 0:01:09.080 of crazy adult responsibilities. We've got the nine Fingered Wonder, 0:01:09.200 --> 0:01:12.039 my brother from another mother, the guy they based the 0:01:12.160 --> 0:01:15.720 Ukorn kind of Cornelius character on from all those Santa 0:01:15.720 --> 0:01:20.720 Claus videos. Dan, thanks for being here, buddy, Mark. Every 0:01:20.760 --> 0:01:24.960 time I'm on this podcast, the intro for me keeps 0:01:24.959 --> 0:01:29.920 getting longer, but the blows are getting a little little 0:01:29.959 --> 0:01:32.640 bit lower. At some point, it's going to be more 0:01:32.680 --> 0:01:35.400 of a roast of Dan Johnson than an introduction. Yes, 0:01:35.440 --> 0:01:37.840 so I mentioned that there was a surprise today. That's it. 0:01:37.920 --> 0:01:41.800 This is just the Dan Johnson roastow just gonna talk 0:01:41.880 --> 0:01:45.000 shit about me for one straight hour, No, but two hours, 0:01:45.080 --> 0:01:49.480 two hours Dan long episode. There's a lot to cover 0:01:49.520 --> 0:01:54.720 on that topic. Oh man. No, in all seriousness, I 0:01:54.760 --> 0:01:57.600 wanted to do two things, and I'm hoping your game 0:01:57.680 --> 0:01:59.720 for it. Number one, I wanted to catch up a 0:01:59.720 --> 0:02:01.800 little bit it because you know, back in the day, 0:02:01.840 --> 0:02:04.000 we used to have these weekly conversations that we got 0:02:04.000 --> 0:02:06.600 to talk about what was going on in our personal 0:02:06.640 --> 0:02:08.799 lives and our white tail worlds and all that, and 0:02:09.360 --> 0:02:11.840 I missed that, Like that was a lot of fun. Um. 0:02:11.840 --> 0:02:14.200 So I want to catch up on that stuff. But 0:02:14.360 --> 0:02:16.560 the second thing I want to do is something I 0:02:16.560 --> 0:02:19.680 have not warned you about, but maybe you've seen me 0:02:19.760 --> 0:02:23.480 post about it in the past. We have done. I've 0:02:23.520 --> 0:02:26.520 done a little mini series over part of last year 0:02:26.639 --> 0:02:29.880 and a couple of times this year, basically I referred 0:02:29.880 --> 0:02:32.840 to as the what would you Do? Gauntlet, in which 0:02:33.200 --> 0:02:38.239 I present a hunter with a bunch of different hypothetical scenarios, 0:02:38.280 --> 0:02:42.120 really specific scenarios, like you're in this place, at this time, 0:02:42.160 --> 0:02:45.280 with these conditions, what would you do? I've done this 0:02:45.320 --> 0:02:49.880 with you know, John aber Haart and Tony Peterson and 0:02:50.080 --> 0:02:52.400 Mark Dreary and the best and the best and the 0:02:52.400 --> 0:02:54.680 only person I haven't covered yet who falls into that 0:02:54.760 --> 0:03:00.639 category is Dan Johnson. So, so I wanted to mentioned 0:03:00.639 --> 0:03:03.560 me in the same breath as Mark Brewery. Yeah, it's 0:03:03.600 --> 0:03:05.679 basically if you were to look at my Mount Rushmore 0:03:05.680 --> 0:03:09.360 of the White Tailed World, it's it's Mark Jury any 0:03:09.440 --> 0:03:13.760 May Dan Johnson. So I want to run you through 0:03:13.800 --> 0:03:16.440 the what would you do? Gauntlet? Are you down for 0:03:16.480 --> 0:03:19.040 the gauntlet? I'm down for the gauntlet, But I have 0:03:19.320 --> 0:03:22.320 I have a feeling there's a specific set of questions 0:03:22.320 --> 0:03:26.360 that you're gonna ask me that you didn't ask Mark Breury. 0:03:27.320 --> 0:03:29.880 There are a few questions on my list that yes, 0:03:29.960 --> 0:03:34.560 would never would never make it to Marjorie, like like 0:03:34.680 --> 0:03:38.240 the sky dope question. Well that you know, that's let 0:03:38.240 --> 0:03:44.640 me add some notes here. That's a great one, oh man. 0:03:44.880 --> 0:03:46.360 So that's that's what I want to do to that. 0:03:46.520 --> 0:03:48.240 I want to I want to cover a lot of 0:03:48.240 --> 0:03:51.880 good stuff. So that sounds good plan of you. It 0:03:51.880 --> 0:03:53.839 sounds like a good plan. I just want to say 0:03:53.880 --> 0:03:57.240 something to your audience real quick. For those of you 0:03:57.560 --> 0:04:02.600 who are longtime listeners and we're here since like episode 0:04:02.680 --> 0:04:06.040 number one, it's good to be back. And for those 0:04:06.080 --> 0:04:08.520 of you who are brand new to the Wired to 0:04:08.560 --> 0:04:10.640 Hump podcast and this you will might only be a 0:04:10.680 --> 0:04:15.880 couple episodes in. I'm sorry. That's a good preface. That's 0:04:15.920 --> 0:04:20.760 a good preface. So so there you go. What the 0:04:20.760 --> 0:04:22.840 hell have you been up to? Man? What's what's new 0:04:22.839 --> 0:04:27.559 in the world. You're chasing kids and chasing work. Keyball coach, 0:04:27.960 --> 0:04:34.039 you know, ball coach, keyball coach. Yeah, big thing, Mark, 0:04:34.240 --> 0:04:38.080 someday you'll probably you'll probably get there. But keyball coach, 0:04:38.320 --> 0:04:41.560 you know, shuttling kids around to dance and all that stuff, 0:04:41.680 --> 0:04:46.000 making sure the refrigerators full of food. Oh, and then 0:04:46.080 --> 0:04:49.159 working at the end of the day. Yeah, what does 0:04:49.200 --> 0:04:52.080 your schedule look like? Is your is your work time? 0:04:52.200 --> 0:04:56.800 Literally night? Yeah? Yeah, right now, my work time is 0:04:58.200 --> 0:05:00.920 who it is? Wait up in the morning, get the 0:05:01.000 --> 0:05:03.080 kids ready for school, get the two oldest ones on 0:05:03.120 --> 0:05:05.760 the bus, go to the gym, work out for an hour, 0:05:06.240 --> 0:05:09.720 come back home. Uh, feed the you know, get lunch 0:05:09.760 --> 0:05:12.360 ready for the other one. And in the meantime, my 0:05:12.400 --> 0:05:14.600 wife has a job where she has to be on 0:05:14.720 --> 0:05:18.200 her computer from eight to five. Okay, so I'm playing 0:05:18.320 --> 0:05:22.320 daddy daycare and you know, shutting him around, taking taking 0:05:22.400 --> 0:05:25.320 him to parks, keeping him busy, you know, making sure 0:05:25.400 --> 0:05:29.000 he doesn't fall into that category of there's the iPad, 0:05:29.000 --> 0:05:31.240 watch it for eight hours. I don't like. I don't 0:05:31.240 --> 0:05:34.520 want that. So I'm doing the whole shuttle shuttle the 0:05:34.600 --> 0:05:39.680 kids around thing. And then somewhere about eight thirty nine o'clock, 0:05:39.760 --> 0:05:42.279 once I get the kids into bed, then me and 0:05:42.279 --> 0:05:45.080 my after supper, after you know, the kids are in bed, 0:05:45.200 --> 0:05:52.600 then I sit down and I start working. So I 0:05:52.680 --> 0:05:55.159 don't know when this was four or five, six years 0:05:55.160 --> 0:05:57.800 ago we started talking about, you know, I was going 0:05:57.880 --> 0:06:00.279 full time with wire Dohn once we started the pod guest, 0:06:00.360 --> 0:06:02.120 but for a number of years we talked about your 0:06:02.160 --> 0:06:06.520 cubical life and how much you kind of hated it, 0:06:06.800 --> 0:06:10.200 and how you dreamed of, Yeah, you dreamed of getting 0:06:10.200 --> 0:06:12.960 to go off and do your own thing, do the 0:06:13.000 --> 0:06:17.960 outdoor media podcast type of thing full time, and you know, 0:06:18.040 --> 0:06:20.359 we we we kind of dreamed about it and spitballed 0:06:20.360 --> 0:06:22.080 about it for so many years, and then one day 0:06:22.560 --> 0:06:24.880 you told me that the issue was kind of forced 0:06:24.880 --> 0:06:27.120 because of stuff with your day job, and it was happening. 0:06:27.560 --> 0:06:31.960 And now how long has it been? Two years? Three years? Uh, 0:06:32.000 --> 0:06:35.680 it's been going on three Yeah, so you're going on 0:06:35.800 --> 0:06:39.839 three years in Is it everything you thought it would be? 0:06:40.160 --> 0:06:44.039 Is the crazy child hustle all day and then work 0:06:44.080 --> 0:06:47.400 at night? Are you living the dream or or what 0:06:47.400 --> 0:06:49.480 do you think? Let me just I'll put it to 0:06:49.520 --> 0:06:54.920 you this way. It Yeah. I do not Like if 0:06:54.960 --> 0:06:59.120 someone said to me, uh, Dan, it's time to go 0:06:59.120 --> 0:07:02.039 back to the cubicle, I would shoot that person and 0:07:02.080 --> 0:07:06.080 then I would like, I would pick my family up 0:07:06.080 --> 0:07:09.479 and like leave. I there's no way, Like I'm not 0:07:09.520 --> 0:07:11.720 built for that anymore. I can't. I could not do that. 0:07:12.160 --> 0:07:16.600 I am like these movies where they start talking about 0:07:16.280 --> 0:07:19.720 an oppressed group of people being free, like a brave 0:07:19.760 --> 0:07:23.520 heart or whatever. I am a free man. I get 0:07:23.600 --> 0:07:26.880 to do whatever I want, whenever I want, with you know, 0:07:26.880 --> 0:07:28.760 a little asterix at the end of that sentence. But 0:07:29.960 --> 0:07:32.000 you know, I I set my own schedule. I can 0:07:32.040 --> 0:07:33.880 do what I want. I get to take my little 0:07:33.920 --> 0:07:36.480 boy to swimming lessons and watch that. I get to 0:07:36.520 --> 0:07:38.840 play with them, spend time with my family. I can 0:07:38.880 --> 0:07:43.160 do things like coach t ball and and then you know, 0:07:43.320 --> 0:07:46.680 the work is it's very important, but at the same 0:07:46.720 --> 0:07:51.280 time it's I don't know, it's it's not work. It's 0:07:51.280 --> 0:07:54.080 still not work. I mean there's some times where it 0:07:54.080 --> 0:07:58.560 feels a bit repetitive, but it's not. It's not repetitive 0:07:58.560 --> 0:08:01.360 in the sense that sitting in a q Google would be. Yeah, 0:08:01.560 --> 0:08:04.320 you know, I'd get to talk about hunting and fishing 0:08:04.400 --> 0:08:09.480 like every day, every day I get to do That's awesome. Yeah, 0:08:09.680 --> 0:08:11.320 you said that you used to do whatever you want, 0:08:11.520 --> 0:08:15.720 except for with an asterisk? Is the asterisk name Ryan 0:08:15.800 --> 0:08:23.080 with Farah? Yeah, well that's a different story as a 0:08:23.120 --> 0:08:32.960 guess question. Next question, Uh so what about the Well, 0:08:33.040 --> 0:08:35.080 I can say one thing I'll add to that is 0:08:35.120 --> 0:08:37.719 I feel like I'm in the same boat as far 0:08:37.800 --> 0:08:42.280 as the childhood hustle craziness right now, because it's it's 0:08:42.280 --> 0:08:44.480 interesting how our lives sort of mirror each other now 0:08:44.559 --> 0:08:46.880 with you having to watch all these kids and your 0:08:46.880 --> 0:08:49.960 wife having to be at the computer. Both my wife 0:08:49.960 --> 0:08:52.679 and I are working at home of course, and then 0:08:52.720 --> 0:08:54.719 we both have the two kids now at home, so 0:08:54.840 --> 0:09:00.199 I definitely definitely can can relate to that chaos. What 0:09:00.240 --> 0:09:05.200 I was gonna say is um hunting stuff, hunting, planning, 0:09:05.840 --> 0:09:08.520 where's where stuff looking like so far this year turkey 0:09:08.559 --> 0:09:12.240 hunting I heard didn't pan out. What's what's going on there? 0:09:12.280 --> 0:09:15.200 And looking forward? Yeah, I mean, I'll tell you what 0:09:15.240 --> 0:09:19.240 turkey hunting was. I took my daughter, uh for a day, 0:09:19.440 --> 0:09:21.760 basically pulled her out of school on a Friday, took her, 0:09:22.080 --> 0:09:25.680 got real close a couple of times. Uh, and a 0:09:25.760 --> 0:09:29.200 group of Jake's with a strutter was coming in and 0:09:29.480 --> 0:09:32.160 I was gonna shoot him, and my daughter had fallen 0:09:32.200 --> 0:09:35.880 asleep wrapped in this brown blanket. And right as I 0:09:35.920 --> 0:09:39.679 start bringing the gun up two pull the trigger, she 0:09:39.880 --> 0:09:42.080 rolls over in her sleep and like make some kind 0:09:42.080 --> 0:09:45.200 of noise and all their heads pop up and look 0:09:45.320 --> 0:09:47.520 right at her, and then they turned around and ran away, 0:09:47.720 --> 0:09:50.800 and uh that it didn't work out. But then you 0:09:50.840 --> 0:09:54.840 know the rest of the weekend was me chasing gobbles. 0:09:55.840 --> 0:09:58.640 They chased them, they were hand up and then they 0:09:58.640 --> 0:10:00.920 would go onto a property that I didn't have access to. 0:10:01.120 --> 0:10:03.720 And that was it. Man. Three days that three days 0:10:03.760 --> 0:10:07.880 in three days out. Still fun though, right, even though 0:10:07.920 --> 0:10:10.280 in the philipp Oh yeah, I mean, like I tell 0:10:10.320 --> 0:10:14.480 everybody I'm a Turkey hunter during Turkey season. Turkey season 0:10:14.559 --> 0:10:16.640 is over for me now and back to white tails. 0:10:16.960 --> 0:10:19.440 Yeah yeah, I kind of feel the same way. I 0:10:19.480 --> 0:10:24.280 had a fun quick quick season two. I think half 0:10:24.320 --> 0:10:26.720 the fun now is actually leading into Turkey season. I've 0:10:26.720 --> 0:10:29.480 just been taking my son out and you know, before 0:10:29.520 --> 0:10:31.640 you can actually hunt, just going out there just to 0:10:31.679 --> 0:10:35.719 call in a burden and I can't pray, did I did? 0:10:35.720 --> 0:10:37.360 We did? I have you on? And we talked about 0:10:37.360 --> 0:10:38.720 there someone I don't know if I talked about this 0:10:38.760 --> 0:10:40.480 with someone I don't know who I've talked about this with. 0:10:40.880 --> 0:10:44.439 But the highlight of that was me and Everett went 0:10:44.520 --> 0:10:47.600 walking back on one of the properties and just happened 0:10:47.640 --> 0:10:49.679 to strike up a bird. We're just kind of going 0:10:49.720 --> 0:10:51.679 for a walk. My son had an umbrella and we 0:10:51.679 --> 0:10:53.480 were just kind of taking taking a look, and we 0:10:53.559 --> 0:10:56.440 struck one up and then ended up getting three birds, 0:10:56.520 --> 0:10:58.400 like really fired up and coming in and I was like, 0:10:58.440 --> 0:11:00.679 oh my god, these birds are actually gonna him into us. 0:11:00.720 --> 0:11:03.320 So we ran up and got into a blind and 0:11:03.880 --> 0:11:07.360 actually called in these three gobblers right to us, and 0:11:07.480 --> 0:11:10.600 I had my son like already he pretended he was 0:11:10.720 --> 0:11:12.679 he was pretending his umbrella was a gun. So he 0:11:12.720 --> 0:11:15.640 had his umbrella gun on the rail of the blind 0:11:15.720 --> 0:11:16.800 and he was aimed at and he was like, can 0:11:16.840 --> 0:11:18.559 I shoot him dead? Okay? Should like yep, Wait till 0:11:18.559 --> 0:11:20.920 they getting range and the birds keep getting closer, and 0:11:20.960 --> 0:11:23.240 he's like kind of whispering and holding dead still but 0:11:23.360 --> 0:11:26.079 kind of commentating as we go, and then he's like, 0:11:26.320 --> 0:11:29.760 they're walking by your tree stand and stuff. And finally 0:11:29.760 --> 0:11:32.400 he's like, I'm ready, like all right, shoot at the 0:11:32.400 --> 0:11:34.520 front bird, aim at his head, the aims of the 0:11:34.600 --> 0:11:36.760 bird's head with his umbrella, and then he goes comple 0:11:38.840 --> 0:11:41.280 and the birds I'll stop and look up and I'm 0:11:41.280 --> 0:11:45.559 like shoot again. He says, Coba, like did I get 0:11:45.640 --> 0:11:48.080 him dead? Did I get him? And if he had 0:11:48.120 --> 0:11:50.120 had a gun, he would have smoked it because those 0:11:50.160 --> 0:11:53.559 birds were at twenty yards. So that was that was 0:11:53.640 --> 0:11:55.439 the highlight of my turkey season. But then like a 0:11:55.480 --> 0:11:58.480 week later the real season opened up and I went 0:11:58.520 --> 0:12:00.840 out day one and I went out in the morning, 0:12:00.920 --> 0:12:03.679 was really quiet, had one coming in, but he was 0:12:03.800 --> 0:12:06.679 he never closed within like sixty yards and then I 0:12:06.760 --> 0:12:10.760 actually spotted some at mid day and took off like there, 0:12:10.800 --> 0:12:13.640 going across the field. I sprint it out there and 0:12:13.679 --> 0:12:15.600 try to cut him off and end up spooking them. 0:12:16.120 --> 0:12:19.120 And then again that night I spotted birds coming back 0:12:19.200 --> 0:12:22.280 to roost across the field, so I did another like 0:12:22.480 --> 0:12:24.680 big loop, got around in front of him and actually 0:12:24.800 --> 0:12:27.199 came really close to killing one of those. It was 0:12:27.240 --> 0:12:29.400 a deal where they got out into this little clearing 0:12:29.440 --> 0:12:32.240 at the edge of this field, just inside from the field, 0:12:32.520 --> 0:12:35.520 and I watched him and I basically knew that they 0:12:35.559 --> 0:12:37.120 were going to go one of two ways to go 0:12:37.200 --> 0:12:39.280 back to roost, and I was laying on the ground 0:12:39.360 --> 0:12:42.000 prone and if they were gonna go one direction, I 0:12:42.080 --> 0:12:44.120 could crawl and probably cut them off, and if they 0:12:44.120 --> 0:12:46.600 went to the other direction, I'd have to figure out something. 0:12:46.679 --> 0:12:48.760 And what basically end up happening is that they went 0:12:48.840 --> 0:12:50.800 the direction that I was hoping they would, and I 0:12:50.920 --> 0:12:53.040 was able to belly crawl right to the edge of 0:12:53.080 --> 0:12:55.880 this crest of this little rise that was kind of 0:12:55.920 --> 0:12:58.760 blocking me from them, and so I was set up there. 0:12:58.960 --> 0:13:02.240 Didn't call or anything, because I just knew evening birds. 0:13:02.520 --> 0:13:04.640 My best bet was just to be where they wanted 0:13:04.679 --> 0:13:07.839 to go, and and basically they did exactly what I 0:13:07.920 --> 0:13:10.160 thought they'd do, except for instead of coming out at 0:13:10.200 --> 0:13:13.719 my twelve o'clock, they cut at my nine, and so 0:13:14.320 --> 0:13:17.839 I wasn't able to move my gun from twelve to 0:13:18.000 --> 0:13:20.000 nine to get a shot. And so he popped up 0:13:20.080 --> 0:13:22.360 and his head was there and he, you know, saw 0:13:22.480 --> 0:13:24.400 this thing laying in the middle of the timber and 0:13:24.520 --> 0:13:28.360 immediately buggered. UM. So that was that. And then the 0:13:28.440 --> 0:13:29.920 next day I went out in the morning and it 0:13:30.080 --> 0:13:33.000 was it was just like kind of just how you 0:13:33.040 --> 0:13:35.760 hope it would go. As far as I struck out, 0:13:35.960 --> 0:13:38.920 heading into an area where they usually roost, I hadn't 0:13:39.000 --> 0:13:42.160 roosted one specifically, but I head into where they usually are, 0:13:42.480 --> 0:13:44.319 and as I got closer to it, you could hear 0:13:44.400 --> 0:13:47.640 birds firing off in that spot. And I got as 0:13:47.679 --> 0:13:50.120 close as I could until I thought i'd be, you know, 0:13:50.440 --> 0:13:52.079 as close as I could get without them seeing me, 0:13:52.760 --> 0:13:56.480 and yelped a couple of times. They came down shortly 0:13:56.520 --> 0:13:59.800 there after and basically worked their way down the edge 0:13:59.840 --> 0:14:01.880 of the field all the way to across from me, 0:14:02.559 --> 0:14:06.160 hung up at like sixties sixty seventy yards and then 0:14:06.240 --> 0:14:10.480 some hens came out across the way and eventually edged 0:14:10.520 --> 0:14:13.000 their way closer to me, and and I just laid 0:14:13.040 --> 0:14:15.439 there for like thirty minutes, again laying on the ground 0:14:16.000 --> 0:14:19.120 in kind of the ready position, and they finally closed 0:14:19.160 --> 0:14:21.560 the distance and let her rip and got myself my 0:14:21.720 --> 0:14:26.080 first double bearded tom. So that's kind of cool. Yeah, 0:14:26.200 --> 0:14:29.600 I mean it was nice, little surprisingly, that's pretty sweet, 0:14:29.840 --> 0:14:33.680 unique something I've never actually seen in person, So that 0:14:33.800 --> 0:14:35.680 was cool. And then got Everett out there and he 0:14:36.240 --> 0:14:40.040 quote unquote found the turkey for me and health carry back, 0:14:40.200 --> 0:14:43.000 so that was cool. It was a fun, quick turkey 0:14:43.080 --> 0:14:48.200 hunt turkey season, but I thoroughly enjoyed it. My daughter 0:14:48.360 --> 0:14:52.680 was more along the lines of let's see. She was 0:14:52.720 --> 0:14:55.160 bouncing up and down the whole time, like couldn't sit still. 0:14:55.360 --> 0:14:57.760 And I'm like, okay, sweetie, you know, like you gotta 0:14:57.760 --> 0:15:00.880 stop moving because I had like multiple time responding to me, 0:15:01.600 --> 0:15:05.160 and they've flown down and one was working his way 0:15:05.240 --> 0:15:07.800 in and that I and I'm just like, okay, it's 0:15:07.840 --> 0:15:09.920 over this hill. We have we have to be quiet. 0:15:09.960 --> 0:15:12.520 We have to stop moving. We have stop moving. I 0:15:12.640 --> 0:15:17.240 look and she's like vibrating and uh. And then from there. 0:15:17.280 --> 0:15:21.000 It was just like Dad, hey can I have some 0:15:21.080 --> 0:15:23.280 snacks now? Just like, hey, can we wait a second 0:15:23.400 --> 0:15:25.800 this let's just wait. This bird is gonna come in 0:15:26.120 --> 0:15:30.960 if you just gotta be patient. And uh, I think 0:15:31.000 --> 0:15:32.760 he saw us, to be honest with you, he I 0:15:32.800 --> 0:15:34.640 think he got up on top of a ridge that 0:15:34.800 --> 0:15:38.320 flanked us and saw her bouncing around and then because 0:15:38.720 --> 0:15:41.520 at one point he just shut off and then the 0:15:41.600 --> 0:15:45.520 next time he gobbled, he was like two yards further 0:15:45.560 --> 0:15:48.400 down the ridge. So but she wanted to go out. 0:15:48.560 --> 0:15:51.600 She was still interested in it. She still wanted to call, 0:15:51.880 --> 0:15:54.680 She still wanted to you know. We walked down to 0:15:54.760 --> 0:15:57.240 this big egg field and we saw some strotton Tom's 0:15:57.280 --> 0:15:59.160 in there, and then we flanked them and that's when 0:15:59.200 --> 0:16:03.640 the Jakes came in. Didn't But yeah, I mean she 0:16:03.680 --> 0:16:06.920 still found it interesting. But she's just not quite not 0:16:07.200 --> 0:16:09.560 quite there yet. Yeah, that's just cool to get out 0:16:09.560 --> 0:16:12.760 there with him. That's been that's been so much fun. 0:16:12.880 --> 0:16:18.080 I was contemplating taking a real gun with Everett, but 0:16:18.920 --> 0:16:21.280 I'm still waiting on that. But he is I just 0:16:21.400 --> 0:16:24.040 got I don't know, I got lucky with him. He 0:16:24.280 --> 0:16:28.240 is obsessed. He's just I mean all he wants to 0:16:28.320 --> 0:16:30.880 do is look at hunting magazines, look at fishing magazines. 0:16:30.920 --> 0:16:33.680 He wants to come do everything with me. He's he's 0:16:33.800 --> 0:16:38.880 constantly re uh, I don't recreating, I guess recreating hunts. 0:16:38.960 --> 0:16:41.480 Like he'll watch one of some video of mine or 0:16:41.600 --> 0:16:43.960 Immediator or something, and then he will be obsessed with 0:16:44.600 --> 0:16:47.480 setting up animals, just like the animals and the show 0:16:47.520 --> 0:16:49.760 we're and then getting in a blind and then you know, 0:16:50.480 --> 0:16:53.800 living out the whole hunt and he's you know, he's 0:16:53.920 --> 0:16:56.640 gone out I think we talked about this, um, this 0:16:56.800 --> 0:16:58.440 win or something. He's gone out there in track deer 0:16:58.520 --> 0:17:00.200 with me. And he's a better blood tracker than I 0:17:00.240 --> 0:17:02.920 am because it's not color blind. Um. And he's all 0:17:02.960 --> 0:17:04.600 about like wanting to help me gut the deer and 0:17:04.720 --> 0:17:06.440 like your three man and he's like, I want to 0:17:06.480 --> 0:17:10.800 help I would. Um. So that's awesome, though, That's a 0:17:10.840 --> 0:17:13.320 good problem to have. It's been so much fun. It's 0:17:13.359 --> 0:17:16.640 been so much fun. So that's uh. I mean, as 0:17:16.640 --> 0:17:18.560 you've been telling me for years, that becomes more and 0:17:18.640 --> 0:17:21.600 more of a thing that you want to prioritize, and uh, 0:17:21.680 --> 0:17:26.720 I get it now. Yeah, absolutely, What about your future hunts? 0:17:26.760 --> 0:17:29.160 How's the planning coming for white tails or big game 0:17:29.280 --> 0:17:33.560 or anything else? So obviously the white the Iowa white 0:17:33.600 --> 0:17:36.120 tail Rut is in the books right same time every year. 0:17:39.640 --> 0:17:42.720 It's really as long as I needed to be. I 0:17:42.920 --> 0:17:47.080 just I got two kids in school. Um, by the 0:17:47.160 --> 0:17:51.199 time fall hits, I will have my youngest one in school, 0:17:51.880 --> 0:17:55.560 uh school slash daycare four days a week. So that's 0:17:55.720 --> 0:17:58.760 really gonna lighten the load on my life. And uh, 0:17:59.680 --> 0:18:02.200 I I don't know, man, I'm really looking forward to 0:18:02.280 --> 0:18:06.800 this season with all the kids. Like it's just you 0:18:06.840 --> 0:18:08.880 know how it is, man, when you go on a hunt, 0:18:09.200 --> 0:18:11.960 especially out of state, and your wife is behind with 0:18:12.119 --> 0:18:15.800 the two kids, it just becomes something you're thinking about. 0:18:16.280 --> 0:18:20.720 And I've never really had a hunt where I'm not 0:18:21.400 --> 0:18:24.680 thinking about things. Like I've talked to so many people 0:18:24.720 --> 0:18:28.320 and they're like, to really experience a true hunt and 0:18:28.440 --> 0:18:31.040 experience it in a certain way. And I don't want 0:18:31.040 --> 0:18:33.800 to just like cast like completely forget about my children 0:18:33.880 --> 0:18:36.240 because that in wife, That's not what I mean by this. 0:18:36.800 --> 0:18:39.359 But when you're like, oh God, my wife called me. 0:18:39.440 --> 0:18:42.560 She's sounding pissed, and my kids are being naughty and 0:18:42.640 --> 0:18:45.000 there's all this stress at home I'm not there to 0:18:45.080 --> 0:18:47.760 help out. I'm not focusing on the hunt like I 0:18:47.840 --> 0:18:50.600 need to. And at the same time my mind, I 0:18:51.080 --> 0:18:55.200 feel guilty for not being there. So this year will 0:18:55.280 --> 0:18:58.880 be a lot of stress removed, so to speak, from 0:18:59.040 --> 0:19:01.920 the equation, and I'm really looking forward to that. So 0:19:02.200 --> 0:19:07.280 Iowa white tail obviously, Um there is uh South Dakota 0:19:07.320 --> 0:19:11.840 mule deer again. That's that's happening in October. And then 0:19:12.000 --> 0:19:13.879 in a couple of weeks, I find out if I 0:19:14.040 --> 0:19:18.679 draw a Wyoming elk tag, So how many points? How 0:19:18.720 --> 0:19:22.720 many points you cashing in for that? It was either 0:19:22.840 --> 0:19:25.879 six or seven, So six or seven years worth of 0:19:25.920 --> 0:19:30.320 points two go into this unit and uh, I don't know, 0:19:30.440 --> 0:19:32.840 we'll see man. So that's gonna be a big hunt. 0:19:32.960 --> 0:19:35.639 That's gonna be a hunt where you know, six or 0:19:35.640 --> 0:19:38.200 seven years worth of preference points. Um, you put a 0:19:38.240 --> 0:19:41.960 lot of time and energy researching and planning and trying 0:19:42.040 --> 0:19:44.359 to you know, all of a sudden getting those hunts, 0:19:44.920 --> 0:19:47.680 and now it's you know, it's a potential that it 0:19:47.720 --> 0:19:49.520 could happen. And if it happens, I think I'm gonna 0:19:49.560 --> 0:19:52.719 go out there for like twelve days. So you got 0:19:53.560 --> 0:19:57.119 you got a local contact or friend who knows the 0:19:57.200 --> 0:19:59.880 area you're thinking of going or what's your game plan 0:20:00.000 --> 0:20:04.240 on that stuff? Man. So the unit that I am 0:20:04.400 --> 0:20:08.960 going to for the most part is it's big chunks 0:20:09.000 --> 0:20:11.280 of public but at the same time, there's not much 0:20:11.320 --> 0:20:15.639 wilderness in it, so I don't need a Wyoming guide 0:20:16.280 --> 0:20:18.800 or uh, you know, I don't really need it unless 0:20:18.800 --> 0:20:21.840 I want to get up there, uh and do. I 0:20:21.920 --> 0:20:23.680 may find out that they're they're up in there, but 0:20:23.920 --> 0:20:25.960 you know, it's it's a very small percentage of wilderness, 0:20:26.280 --> 0:20:28.760 so I don't necessarily need a local guy to be there. 0:20:29.520 --> 0:20:33.240 But for the most part, um like I I with 0:20:33.440 --> 0:20:35.800 all this COVID, the guy that I was hoping to 0:20:35.920 --> 0:20:40.240 go with had to back out because last year's plans 0:20:40.280 --> 0:20:41.879 got ruined. So he's gonna do that hunt with his 0:20:42.000 --> 0:20:45.200 family again. And now this might be just a solo trip. 0:20:45.280 --> 0:20:48.320 To be honest with you, shoot, shoot from the hip. 0:20:49.320 --> 0:20:52.000 My dad might. My dad might drive out there with me. 0:20:53.240 --> 0:20:55.560 But that's that's really it. I do. I do know 0:20:55.720 --> 0:20:59.000 some people out out there, but it's not like they're 0:20:59.000 --> 0:21:00.879 gonna be like, UN need to go to this spot 0:21:01.000 --> 0:21:03.960 right here, you know, you need to go. They've they've 0:21:04.000 --> 0:21:06.880 guided me to the unit. I applied for that unit, 0:21:07.080 --> 0:21:08.600 and now we just kind of wait and see and 0:21:08.640 --> 0:21:11.200 then from that point on, it's, uh, you know, just 0:21:11.280 --> 0:21:14.359 a lot more research. Are you is this grizzly country 0:21:14.720 --> 0:21:20.679 or no? No, that was that was a purpose driven decision, right, 0:21:20.760 --> 0:21:25.959 I'm not prepared, nor do I have any experience with grizzlies. 0:21:26.040 --> 0:21:28.680 And I feel like, for the most part, you know, yeah, 0:21:28.720 --> 0:21:30.720 there's a black bear out there that could be aggressive, 0:21:30.840 --> 0:21:33.160 but further the most part, everything I hear is they'll 0:21:33.240 --> 0:21:35.920 just run away like uh, you know, like a dog 0:21:36.119 --> 0:21:38.640 or coyote wood. Yeah, yeah, you don't need to worry 0:21:38.640 --> 0:21:41.760 about them too much. That's good. That's that's the one trick. 0:21:41.840 --> 0:21:43.920 Like with our place out in Idaho, we're we're in 0:21:44.040 --> 0:21:46.720 grizzly country. So every time I'm out there and scouting 0:21:46.760 --> 0:21:49.679 for black bear hunting and stuff, it's just a different, uh, 0:21:50.440 --> 0:21:55.880