Speaker 1: On today's episode of The Command Center Podcast, we get
Speaker 1: pick Manny, it's pig million and that doesn't make any sense.
Speaker 2: Review the Panther.
Speaker 1: We're gonna recap the Panthers, all the good stuff offense,
Speaker 1: defense there, We're gonna preview the Bears. Williams is coming back,
Speaker 1: coming Home, and then Jade Daniels may or may not play.
Speaker 1: We talked about the implications of that. It all starts
Speaker 1: right now. Welcome into the Command Center Podcast. I'm Logan
Speaker 1: Paulson here with Fred Smoot and Santanams. Fred. I meant
Speaker 1: to ask you, is that hey Richmond shirt you got?
Speaker 3: Oh no, it's the designer. Name is Spider, not Richmond Spider.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna show Tim Hottow.
Speaker 1: Because that looks like kind of the same logo that they.
Speaker 3: No, no, no, no, this is the name of the
Speaker 3: design the spider. You get caught in my whale.
Speaker 4: But who is Richmonds? What spider?
Speaker 2: No, No, that's the messcot for Richmond. They got a spider.
Speaker 1: That's why I was confused, because I thought he just
Speaker 1: got some.
Speaker 2: Well, well you should have noticed one Richmond because of
Speaker 2: the culis.
Speaker 1: And I thought maybe your son had got some beer
Speaker 1: and you got hooked up, and yeah, that's what I.
Speaker 3: I'm not really one of those guys that wear other
Speaker 3: schools gear. It's gonna be MISSIPI state or nothing.
Speaker 1: I gotta keep my ee out for that. Now. I
Speaker 1: feel I feel like you've.
Speaker 2: Worn Now if my daughter signed and.
Speaker 1: You got other contingencies to worry about.
Speaker 3: It, well, my oldest daughter go to O miss I
Speaker 3: would never like never wear that. I mean when I
Speaker 3: had to go down to take her to school and
Speaker 3: they was like I had a name tag for me,
Speaker 3: No miss on it.
Speaker 4: I didn't wear it.
Speaker 2: I wouldn't wear it.
Speaker 1: Wouldn't wear it. Not in your blood, not gonna do it. Well,
Speaker 1: sorry about that little sidetrack spiders spiders spider gear. But
Speaker 1: we're the NFC East leaders. Boys. I feel so good
Speaker 1: and that's pretty exciting. You believe yeah fourn two And
Speaker 1: I mean obviously that the rest of the division is
Speaker 1: kind of struggling right now and it feels good to
Speaker 1: kind of be on the uh on the right track.
Speaker 3: So speak you know, we're on the right track, and
Speaker 3: we've proven we can win several different ways, and this
Speaker 3: is what's the most impressive thing to me. We can
Speaker 3: out fast if you want to, we can out physical.
Speaker 3: If you want to, we can beat your own defense.
Speaker 3: We could beat you on best your teams and we
Speaker 3: flash you on our fence.
Speaker 2: You gotta love that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely. And then also we're second in the NFC
Speaker 1: as a whole, which is pretty cool. And I don't
Speaker 1: know that the math there is a little bit weird.
Speaker 2: Yeah, the math is math because one game.
Speaker 1: I know, so, yeah, but to be in that group
Speaker 1: of Detroit Lions, the Vikings, those are for sure playoff
Speaker 1: teams and to be third second, however, we're in there.
Speaker 1: When that mixes, it's also pretty cool shows you kind
Speaker 1: of where the team is at.
Speaker 2: All right.
Speaker 1: So now let's recap the Panthers game. And this is
Speaker 1: a tough game for me to recap because I'm really excited.
Speaker 1: It's always good to win a game by you know,
Speaker 1: forty points, thirty four points. But to me, the Panthers
Speaker 1: were not good bad football.
Speaker 2: That ain't our job.
Speaker 3: The job is to play who's on the schedule when
Speaker 3: every day arrived to the game. We have nothing to
Speaker 3: do with this. We used to beat the Panthers, all right,
Speaker 3: we did years ago, Like we was going through the
Speaker 3: same thing.
Speaker 2: The Panthers down.
Speaker 3: The one thing we know about a fish, it rotted
Speaker 3: from the head down, from the head down. And this
Speaker 3: what's wrong with the Panthers day, a rotten from the
Speaker 3: head down.
Speaker 4: Actually didn't know that about the fish.
Speaker 2: Yes, they ride from here down from the brain.
Speaker 1: Okay, all right, But but you said something though that
Speaker 1: I think is maybe the biggest thing.
Speaker 4: No, I think one of the things that you know,
Speaker 4: folks always trying to move the gold posts back. I mean,
Speaker 4: I think as as a team, your job is to
Speaker 4: go out there and win, you know. I mean, that's
Speaker 4: the ultimate goal. And regardless up there having winners, a
Speaker 4: record or not, that's not us. You know, that's not
Speaker 4: for us to worry about. Yeah, our job is to
Speaker 4: take care of business. Now. One of the things that's
Speaker 4: most important about what we have shown this year against
Speaker 4: those teams that aren't or hasn't been good. Yeah, we're
Speaker 4: stepping on that throat. We are showing you that. Okay,
Speaker 4: if you don't play good football, then we're going to
Speaker 4: show the world.
Speaker 2: Get across my lap for that.
Speaker 4: But you can't always find some something to nit pick about.
Speaker 2: But that's just life.
Speaker 4: That just shows you who are we? Who we are
Speaker 4: as humans. Man, We're going to find a reason to
Speaker 4: folt also say that we're not worthy of what we've
Speaker 4: been shown.
Speaker 3: Listen, I enjoyed watching the Monday Nights games because what
Speaker 3: the Ravens did to the Bucks compared to how we
Speaker 3: played them.
Speaker 2: That's what I was looking at.
Speaker 3: Lamargo's for five touchdowns and the keen hear him, son, Dude.
Speaker 2: Listen to me, they can't hear.
Speaker 4: It also shows you, too, man, just how things can change.
Speaker 4: They went from a touchdown men dropped to a turnover
Speaker 4: and that that turned the game, and then you lost
Speaker 4: that key player who dropped that touchdown. It was a
Speaker 4: swing of things that happened right then and there in
Speaker 4: the front of our face. And to me, I think
Speaker 4: that changed the game. That changed the floor of the game,
Speaker 4: and that that changed the Bucks and put them in
Speaker 4: a situation to where now they're trying to chase. They're
Speaker 4: chasing I get through another pick, you know what I mean.
Speaker 4: So that's why it's vital man to go out there
Speaker 4: and and try to hold onto the football and put
Speaker 4: up points.
Speaker 2: I was more at pressed this week with Mary Oda Yea.
Speaker 3: Let's be honest, like this guy came in here and listen.
Speaker 3: The offense did not take a step back. They stayed
Speaker 3: on schedule. They didn't they didn't have to change anything.
Speaker 3: That's why I love having a backup that mimics the starter.
Speaker 3: I always hate when the team has a starter. They
Speaker 3: could do something and they got to back up, just
Speaker 3: totally different. The offense stayed on schedule, they made big plays,
Speaker 3: and the defense showed up.
Speaker 2: They showed up. Man, guess what, I can't wait.
Speaker 3: I was so happy to see another guy added to
Speaker 3: the Forbes list. Andy Dalton is now on the Forbes Listen,
Speaker 3: you don't mean you're big in there?
Speaker 1: How many not this time? How many people are on
Speaker 1: the Forbes list right now? Two people? Right then? Who's
Speaker 1: the other one?
Speaker 2: That's no, Russell Wilson. Russe Wilson is on the fully.
Speaker 3: But yeah, but it's like that, It's like a baseball
Speaker 3: player with the yips, Like sometimes you just need to
Speaker 3: see one go over the game and I think, now
Speaker 3: he got their pick. Confidence is everything for a cornerback,
Speaker 3: like confidence is everything. So just seeing one go over
Speaker 3: the gate man, you know it's gonna keep.
Speaker 4: Building now, that meant the world to me. I mean
Speaker 4: just seeing him go out there and be able to
Speaker 4: make that play just knowing what he's been through last year,
Speaker 4: earlier this year. Man, it's great and I think that's
Speaker 4: you said it. It builds confidence. Is gonna now, you know,
Speaker 4: unleash some of that stuff that he had going on.
Speaker 3: Mentally, Yeah, he won't be scared to go jump a play.
Speaker 3: He won't be afraid too, because it's like I got
Speaker 3: some collateral. I got some collateral.
Speaker 4: Not bad, but man, thinking about Joe Whitt and how
Speaker 4: he puts guys in position, Now you see that you
Speaker 4: got a guy that he's reading, he's showing. I'm sure
Speaker 4: you show him that, you know, you know this week
Speaker 4: because the way he saw that route and saw that stem,
Speaker 4: he immediately knew what was he was already under. That
Speaker 4: tells me that it was Will coached. And now Joe
Speaker 4: Wickers say, Okay, I got a guy who's going to
Speaker 4: be able to do this, So now let me play
Speaker 4: a defense. You know that's going to be bingo.
Speaker 1: That's what I'm talking Atah, And you mentioned the like
Speaker 1: how he read the pick. You know, you talk about
Speaker 1: reading the formation, reading like they're in a tight formation,
Speaker 1: kind of almost a stack.
Speaker 5: Uh.
Speaker 1: Donte Johnson presses out and then man kind of works
Speaker 1: the inside shoulder. And for me, I don't play dB,
Speaker 1: but I run enough, I run enough Rotster watching the
Speaker 1: film to know like, if you do that, you're probably
Speaker 1: not going back out. Yeah. Right, So great job by
Speaker 1: Forbes is sitting on a trust. Trust what you see.
Speaker 1: And I think you know, Tanny, you said this too.
Speaker 1: They probably saw that on film and definitely definitely popped.
Speaker 1: The other thing I wanted to say about the game
Speaker 1: and winning and all this kind of stuff and beating
Speaker 1: a bad football team is, you know, we've covered this
Speaker 1: team for a long time. We've watched this team for
Speaker 1: a long time. How many times have they not beaten
Speaker 1: bad teams? Like I think about I think about like
Speaker 1: last year Chicago, they were all banged up and we
Speaker 1: lost that game. The Giants that they came in with.
Speaker 2: Yeah whoever they got twice.
Speaker 1: Yeah, But you know what I'm saying, like and this
Speaker 1: is this is like what you're supposed to do. And
Speaker 1: one of the things we were concerned about on the
Speaker 1: preview show last week was like can they handle a
Speaker 1: kind of an emotional lull. They have the Baltimore's, They've
Speaker 1: got the Cincinnatis. It's easy to get for those games.
Speaker 1: Can you do what you're supposed to do in this game?
Speaker 1: And to me like this is this informs so much
Speaker 1: about the character of the team, and I think fans
Speaker 1: forget that. They forget that, like it's this is an
Speaker 1: emotional thing we're doing playing football. We did and for
Speaker 1: them to be able to say, okay, you know, Baltimore,
Speaker 1: tough loss and then bounce back and just absolutely curb stopping.
Speaker 3: And they stopped the team that's very good at running
Speaker 3: the ball. Let's be honest. They spent a lot of
Speaker 3: money on their office line. To you behooved, it's fifth
Speaker 3: in the league. When it come to Russia, it didn't
Speaker 3: look like.
Speaker 4: Before we got to the game on Sunday, the question
Speaker 4: was act at nauseam is about the whole This is
Speaker 4: the team you should be, This is the team you
Speaker 4: should you know, uh, you know, I guess you could
Speaker 4: say boat race. And the best answer or the best
Speaker 4: you know comment I've ever heard from a coach when
Speaker 4: when he was asked that, Dan Quinn say, I'm glad
Speaker 4: we're the guys that you're asking that. I'm glad we're
Speaker 4: the guys in the inside because we get a chance
Speaker 4: to not worry about what's going on outside.
Speaker 2: We don't care us.
Speaker 4: So before they played the game, I've already was assured
Speaker 4: that many these guys gonna come out here and do
Speaker 4: their thing, and they did just that. They went out
Speaker 4: there and play phenomenally. So I just feel like, man,
Speaker 4: we've been saying it. You know, these guys are well coached.
Speaker 4: These guys have the right guys in the building to
Speaker 4: kind of follow, you know.
Speaker 1: And I'm telling I'm really glad you brought that up
Speaker 1: because we talk about dan and culture all the time,
Speaker 1: and I think that's a really good understanding of how
Speaker 1: to build a good culture and the potential pitfalls. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know, like understanding that this could be an issue
Speaker 1: for us.
Speaker 3: Not no more with this coaching group. Right, they win,
Speaker 3: they're not too high. Listen to the interviews. Yeah, they
Speaker 3: just kind of dull. How y'all feel about the win?
Speaker 3: You know, we did what we need to do. We
Speaker 3: have some stuff to clean up. Back to the drawing board,
Speaker 3: so they don't get too high on wins. They don't
Speaker 3: get too allows, stay right there in the middle. And
Speaker 3: like they said, we ain't worried about that other team.
Speaker 3: We're worried about us as we do what we supposed
Speaker 3: to do, win games.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And we talked a little bit about Marcus Mariota,
Speaker 1: and you talked about the defense, and I think that's
Speaker 1: maybe the biggest story coming out of the game is
Speaker 1: just how well they played on that side of the football.
Speaker 1: Obviously there's things to clean up, no doubt about it,
Speaker 1: but they get two turnovers and think about the game flow,
Speaker 1: first drive interception pick six, Yeah, and then they get
Speaker 1: you know that, I think it's the next drive or
Speaker 1: two drives after that, it's the Forbes interception. The drive
Speaker 1: after that one is the fourth down stop. So basically
Speaker 1: the defense scored twenty one points, like, not not exactly
Speaker 1: twenty one.
Speaker 2: But they did. They injected it.
Speaker 1: And so when the team's good at running the football
Speaker 1: like game flow is the best way to get them
Speaker 1: out of it doing now. Yeah, And I just think
Speaker 1: like the defense deserves a ton of credit for again,
Speaker 1: the ball's life. They did a good.
Speaker 3: Dunte Filer is having right now the best start of
Speaker 3: any year he's had.
Speaker 1: In his career, and this game was an absolutely yeah.
Speaker 2: So it reminds me of the curve growing curve of one.
Speaker 3: Lorenzo Alexander Zoe started off very slow, but once he
Speaker 3: got it, he became a Pro Bowl player. And it's
Speaker 3: like that late bloomer like, that's what I'm getting. That's
Speaker 3: the feel I'm getting from Fouler right.
Speaker 4: What I love seeing too is just one week we
Speaker 4: see I guess you could say Lous in that position
Speaker 4: where he's doing some of the things, and then you
Speaker 4: see follow doing it, and to me, it just shows
Speaker 4: you about how key it is to get the guys
Speaker 4: that fit what you're trying to do dramatically, you know
Speaker 4: what I mean, And when you can have multiple guys
Speaker 4: that can go on in and be able to mimic
Speaker 4: something that you've done before, that makes you that much
Speaker 4: more valuable or makes those guys much more valuable for
Speaker 4: our defense. And not to say, you know, we don't
Speaker 4: talk a lot about this guy, but Jamie Davis was
Speaker 4: in there on where I'm seeing him do some similar things.
Speaker 4: So it's just man, just great to see, you know,
Speaker 4: our makeup. I think our makeup is what to me
Speaker 4: is one of the biggest reasons why we were able to
Speaker 4: go out here and play the kind of football we're
Speaker 4: playing because we have the right guys for what we.
Speaker 1: Want to do, and obviously followers had a great year
Speaker 1: so far. I think he's got four and a half sacks.
Speaker 1: He leads the team, which I don't know if anybody
Speaker 1: expected that. I know he was going to be a
Speaker 1: productive pass rusher, but for him to be that productive,
Speaker 1: frank you lover has four gets another one in this game.
Speaker 1: And I think when you look at obviously the front,
Speaker 1: you know without John Allen, I think dudes kind of
Speaker 1: finding his way a little bit. Yeah, got got pushed around.
Speaker 1: I think he's a fun player to watch, gets pushed around.
Speaker 1: Gott to grow in that area a little bit.
Speaker 2: Ye is young, young bu.
Speaker 1: Big Field did some good things.
Speaker 4: But I tell you one thing, and I want to
Speaker 4: get to before you say it, damn ain't brought the
Speaker 4: pain a whole lot.
Speaker 1: You did a great job. And so that whole front
Speaker 1: right did a great job. But I think the group
Speaker 1: that I was probably and I expected them to have
Speaker 1: a good game, but it was good to see them
Speaker 1: have a good game when they should have a good
Speaker 1: game is a secondary bay. They did a great job
Speaker 1: and to that end, also I thought Joe wood Un
Speaker 1: did a really good job of disguising some stuff. Hey,
Speaker 1: we got single high. Actually you know we're in Tampa two. Oh,
Speaker 1: it looks like we're bringing pressure to the left. Actually
Speaker 1: we're bringing to the right. We get free runners. And
Speaker 1: it was subtle stuff, little stuff. It just felt like
Speaker 1: and the game plan felt a little bit tight, a
Speaker 1: little bit of streamlined. But I think I let the
Speaker 1: guys play fast.
Speaker 3: But I'm ben say when you when you tighten up
Speaker 3: the game plan, that mean you only want us to
Speaker 3: play fans. We're gonna run these four coverages and we're
Speaker 3: gonna run them all day long and repeat it like
Speaker 3: like when when we when we see the office repeat stuff.
Speaker 3: You won't run it twice, not if we're gonna be
Speaker 3: in the same stuff and allows to like you think loan,
Speaker 3: you think wrong. When it comes to the defensive backfield,
Speaker 3: we are reactive, not proactive.
Speaker 1: And this is a week two where you can't do that.
Speaker 1: Like you know, Canalys is a really good offensive mind,
Speaker 1: but it's a little bit formulaic. So yeah, why do
Speaker 1: I need to get crazy complicated?
Speaker 4: I don't.
Speaker 1: I don't like, let's just do us and do it
Speaker 1: really well and play fast.
Speaker 4: I think it was so great, just to see as spurts.
Speaker 4: He had where he brought the pressure and it was
Speaker 4: vital to what they was doing offensively, because if you
Speaker 4: think about it, one play they had legged out there
Speaker 4: by himself with the screen. If you don't put that
Speaker 4: pressure on Dalton and he gets to set up and
Speaker 4: throw that, it's no one over there, it's wing grass.
Speaker 4: But that's what I'm saying about. That's how that's how
Speaker 4: important it is to be sound and everything you're doing.
Speaker 4: Those guys up front got to the quarterback just so,
Speaker 4: just quick enough for him to get rattled and throw
Speaker 4: the ball away, you know what I'm saying. So stuff
Speaker 4: like that, Man, they plan together. It shows you how
Speaker 4: valuable it is for all eleven men to be out
Speaker 4: there playing together.
Speaker 1: Just the double click on that, Like that's Fouler again.
Speaker 1: They're and cover two Fred. They motioned to a three
Speaker 1: by one, so they motioned the receiver away. So it's
Speaker 1: just a tight end numb there. Yeah, you can see Fowler.
Speaker 1: Look Saint Juice is on the ball. He's the court,
Speaker 1: he's the cover two player, he's the outside run player.
Speaker 1: He says, I don't need to be out I contain
Speaker 1: and he spikes so hard of an inside gap and
Speaker 1: is able to get that pressure. So again, because it's simple,
Speaker 1: I know the adjustments, we can play fast. I know
Speaker 1: that there's a there's a run forced player outside of me.
Speaker 1: I can be aggressive to the sea gap here and
Speaker 1: I end up getting a pressure in it and the
Speaker 1: ball is incomplete and the next play is the interception interception.
Speaker 1: So it's it all stacks up, it's all significant. But
Speaker 1: I thought it was really really well. Then again, like
Speaker 1: we talked a little bit about stopping the run, they
Speaker 1: did a good job of that. But at times you
Speaker 1: see some areas where that can still be better. But
Speaker 1: I expect that to improve because the staff every single week,
Speaker 1: they're very intentional about finding ways to improve. Yeah, all right,
Speaker 1: let's talk a little bit about the offense.
Speaker 3: I doubt it was nick Man. You hear nicks Man.
Speaker 3: You hear every coach say that, I.
Speaker 2: Think this this roster is truly built for nicks Man up.
Speaker 4: I say it.
Speaker 3: I like my my backup to mimic my starter. When
Speaker 3: it comes to quarterback, I feel like Mariota came in
Speaker 3: there and it.
Speaker 2: Looked the same.
Speaker 3: It didn't like the office did not change. So kudos
Speaker 3: to the offensive staff. Kudos to the offensive coordinator, but
Speaker 3: just saying, you know what, we're not backing down because
Speaker 3: our backup is in here. We're gonna put the pedal
Speaker 3: to the metal. I'm not gonna lie. Initially, it didn't,
Speaker 3: you know, Initially you saw the rush that hasn't been playing,
Speaker 3: that hasn't got a chance to really have this meaningful
Speaker 3: kind of you know, playtime. And he was just hurt
Speaker 3: a couple of weeks ago.
Speaker 4: He was so so it didn't initially, but I will
Speaker 4: say this, when it did start unraveling for him and
Speaker 4: for the defense when they couldn't put putting hands on him,
Speaker 4: he showed that just like any guy who played. You know,
Speaker 4: we talked about this, use this term, you know for
Speaker 4: basketball players, if you're not a jump shooter, what's the
Speaker 4: next best thing is to get a layup?
Speaker 5: Yep.
Speaker 4: And so when he started using his feet and got
Speaker 4: those runs in Dow, the field open up for him,
Speaker 4: and now he was able to will and deal. We
Speaker 4: were just talking about it before you got in here,
Speaker 4: fred Man. And it went through one spur of plays
Speaker 4: where it was he was on three, yeah, you know,
Speaker 4: for three, and then the next one it was the
Speaker 4: two men and dry and he will. It was almost
Speaker 4: you know, no drops, no balls on the ground, and
Speaker 4: then we go and score a touchdown. So it was
Speaker 4: great to see how it unraveled. It was great to
Speaker 4: see that once he said okay, I don't done this before,
Speaker 4: I've been here before. Let me go out here and
Speaker 4: play good football. He did just that. So now, like
Speaker 4: we said, we speculate. We don't know if he had
Speaker 4: the situation where he's in first and he has to
Speaker 4: do that, this is what I'm gonna be halving my head,
Speaker 4: you know, basically wrapping my head around. Can I see
Speaker 4: that kind of effort out in the gate, you know
Speaker 4: what I mean? Can he be a guy that go
Speaker 4: out there and say, Okay, I'm the guy this week.
Speaker 4: Can I lead this till?
Speaker 3: I think it's a different mind frame from all right,
Speaker 3: I'm practicing all week, I'm taking start the reps. You
Speaker 3: gotta realize he's the backup. So he didn't even probably
Speaker 3: get a lot of rep especially.
Speaker 4: The defense too, not being aware that he might not
Speaker 4: he have a chance to help till.
Speaker 3: Like coming off the bench pitching and then come in
Speaker 3: and say I'm gonna start, Like.
Speaker 2: I think the mind frame is different, you know.
Speaker 1: I think. The the other thing about Mariota is like
Speaker 1: I kind of left the game thinking, oh man, he's
Speaker 1: a little off schedule. He's not on time, He's not
Speaker 1: like super It's it's a little bit different. And but
Speaker 1: then I went back and watched the film and there's
Speaker 1: probably four four throws that were just like elite throws,
Speaker 1: elite throws.
Speaker 3: And they was kind of risky, if you know what
Speaker 3: I mean, Like Jayden is not putting hisself in those situations,
Speaker 3: but this veteran saying I'm gonna let it real, like
Speaker 3: I'm like one to tear. He was like, hey, I
Speaker 3: just trust tearing, So I'm gonna put it out there
Speaker 3: and if he catching, he catch it.
Speaker 2: If he don't, he don't.
Speaker 3: It's kind of like the veteran in there, like I've
Speaker 3: been here, done it, you know.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think. And the other thing that I just
Speaker 1: got to call attention to is how well and again,
Speaker 1: Carolina's defensive line is not good right, Like they're banged
Speaker 1: up and have a lot of guys out there, but
Speaker 1: that offensive line, man, they played so well. It allowed
Speaker 1: Mariota to kind of be back there and kind of
Speaker 1: see it and be a little off schedule, be kind
Speaker 1: of played the beat of his own drummer a little bit.
Speaker 1: Those guys competed. They blocked their faces off in the
Speaker 1: run game. And I know that group has kind of
Speaker 1: again been much much malign coming into the season. But man,
Speaker 1: like they're playing good ball.
Speaker 4: You know, I care less about how beat up you are.
Speaker 4: Those are NFL players, And when you see the effort,
Speaker 4: I mean just knowing who you have back there, who
Speaker 4: you're protecting. It was at times where Mayor was doing
Speaker 4: all type of different runs. He like he was in
Speaker 4: an one mixtape at one time. I mean I was like, man,
Speaker 4: what is he doing? And those guys hands on a
Speaker 4: swivel finding somebody to block they had, you know, it's
Speaker 4: one play. They had a game going on. And beyond
Speaker 4: this, this man went to cosme man and cosme man vice versa.
Speaker 4: And the way they picked it up and Mario or
Speaker 4: the stepped right up in that spot. Yeah, ball on
Speaker 4: time to I believe Terry, And I'm like, bro, look
Speaker 4: at this like you can't you can't teach it because
Speaker 4: obviously it's being taught. But it's a big difference from
Speaker 4: what we saw a year ago. Yeah.
Speaker 1: And I think the other thing too, is like they
Speaker 1: just seem to be they have really good chemistry, like
Speaker 1: when you're passing stuff off like that, you understand how
Speaker 1: he said, he understands how your say. Yeah, And it's
Speaker 1: the same thing you talk about with DB's for all
Speaker 1: the time, like they're they're like one organization.
Speaker 2: They connect.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they're connected. And yeah, you can just tell the
Speaker 1: way they communicate in the run game where they're communicating
Speaker 1: the past game. It's special. And I think the offense again,
Speaker 1: outside of that, like they ran the ball extremely well.
Speaker 1: I got to give credit to Anthony landor whoever he's
Speaker 1: a run game coordinator, but you know, it's the offensive
Speaker 1: line coach, it's the offensive line, it's everybody working together,
Speaker 1: running backs, running units. But man, they were physical and
Speaker 1: I think the novelty of the runs. We talked about
Speaker 1: this little bit already, Tana, Like they give the defense
Speaker 1: different looks each week, a little different.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they layering it, like laying in the offense.
Speaker 3: And when I get when I have to take on
Speaker 3: a coordinator that I feel like, oh he's a a
Speaker 3: little bit every week. It keeps you hesitant as a
Speaker 3: defensive bet because you'd be like, all right, they ran
Speaker 3: the screen last week, they're gonna run a fake screen
Speaker 3: and sitting the slot up like so it makes you
Speaker 3: sick and GISs yourself if I.
Speaker 4: Mean second guests keep you on your toes because one
Speaker 4: they showing you looks that you saw before that you
Speaker 4: would do something different. Yeah, it's like, Okay, this look
Speaker 4: tells me, oh, and this, this motion and everything that
Speaker 4: they're doing tells me it's gonna be this. And then
Speaker 4: they're hitting them out with something totally different.
Speaker 1: So yeah, standing, you know, I think that that's and
Speaker 1: again you win by forty. In the backup quarterback comes
Speaker 1: in balls like as different as it looked, and it's
Speaker 1: kind of it wasn't on time the same way Jane
Speaker 1: is like, yeah, dude, bald offensive lineball be Rob Bald.
Speaker 1: Who else we got Nick Alla, Grady sam Cosmy, two
Speaker 1: of the highest graded offensive players by PFF. I mean McNichols,
Speaker 1: the way he ran terry, the way he caught the football.
Speaker 4: Like at one point in the game.
Speaker 1: We don't score forty points without people playing.
Speaker 4: Well, no, no doubt. At one point in the game we
Speaker 4: had twenty one runs or passes and twenty five, you know,
Speaker 4: vice versa. So it was like, you see how well
Speaker 4: balanced that was? Yeah, I mean that allows you to
Speaker 4: have that kind of efficiency when you have a team
Speaker 4: that's really behind both the passing game and the run game.
Speaker 4: And credit to be rob I mean, Bro, we talked
Speaker 4: about missing him last week. Yeah, and like we said,
Speaker 4: we understand what Carolina you know, was faced with or
Speaker 4: faced us with. Still, like I say, those are NFL players.
Speaker 4: You have to go out there and dominate your opponent.
Speaker 4: And that's just what it did. It was almost at
Speaker 4: one time, I was like, Bro, he getting for a pop.
Speaker 4: I mean I saw, I saw him and going to
Speaker 4: different crowds and I pop out the other end. I'm like,
Speaker 4: how did you see that? You know, where did you
Speaker 4: find that lane?
Speaker 1: Or two?
Speaker 2: At Businy's decisions being made.
Speaker 4: They don't want they don't they don't want to wrap
Speaker 4: up this offense.
Speaker 2: I don't know what the name maybe Flash and Dash,
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 3: They do a little bit of everything, Like they can
Speaker 3: go physical with you.
Speaker 2: I can outspeed you, I can out flash you.
Speaker 3: And then I got these subtle how should I say,
Speaker 3: trick plays that I do every once in a while.
Speaker 2: So it's they do a little bit of everything.
Speaker 1: Man, we got to do a breakdown on it be
Speaker 1: on the show. It's too it's too complicated nuances. But
Speaker 1: like just the way they layer runs, they get in
Speaker 1: different looks. Like for example, they had a second and
Speaker 1: fifteen where they run that kind of orbit motion and
Speaker 1: then run the bubble and the safety who's in quarters
Speaker 1: is slow to fit the run. Nichols cuts it back
Speaker 1: and instead of having to go heads with a guy
Speaker 1: in the hole, he can hey 's enough space to
Speaker 1: make that guy miss and gets the first down. It's
Speaker 1: just like that's and so you can go big, you
Speaker 1: can sprea you're saying, spread them out. Then we go
Speaker 1: onunbalanced offensive line, this line to it, we have a
Speaker 1: ten yard gain, We run the zone read for a
Speaker 1: big playoff the GT. Like there's just so much different
Speaker 1: stuff and it's all kind of in the same bag.
Speaker 1: It's like they run GT, they run Wanda.
Speaker 4: They run Yeah, that's what they run.
Speaker 1: But every week there's like a little bit of wind.
Speaker 1: It's like, oh wait, is this the right? This is no,
Speaker 1: this is different. It's the same thing, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. So they've just done a really good job
Speaker 1: and and and that's been cool to see too, is
Speaker 1: the pen stuff defensively, the evolution, how they're getting more
Speaker 1: detailed than offensively, how each week they're able to ad
Speaker 1: something very very cool. All right, now, I think it's
Speaker 1: time to address maybe the elephant in the room. And
Speaker 1: we've brought a special guest in help to help us
Speaker 1: do this, Jason. He's here to help us talk about
Speaker 1: j He.
Speaker 2: Just makes me feel like every pirate, I mean, hater.
Speaker 1: How you feeling?
Speaker 2: So we won? We did win.
Speaker 1: That's all right, you should be happy about that now, No,
Speaker 1: not happy about that.
Speaker 5: Did you know that every team we've beaten has a
Speaker 5: losing record?
Speaker 2: Then I got nothing to do with what they It
Speaker 2: doesn't have anything to do with us.
Speaker 1: And also like that we this is this is the
Speaker 1: last place schedule get an easier schedule. Yeah, so this
Speaker 1: is our opportunity to maximize these opportunities.
Speaker 4: Thank you.
Speaker 1: When these games are these are games we should win
Speaker 1: and we are winning. And that's the whole we just
Speaker 1: talked about that you gotta win them.
Speaker 4: It's not out for day on our schedule. I think
Speaker 4: one of the things that stick out the most if
Speaker 4: we've been this team that had the same kind of
Speaker 4: schedule and didn't go out there and with the same
Speaker 4: kind of outcome.
Speaker 2: Detroit had won a game for three years.
Speaker 4: Yeah, we was always a team that played the worst
Speaker 4: team and lost.
Speaker 2: Who loves all right? Stop using logic, I don't want it. Yeah,
Speaker 2: get out more logic.
Speaker 5: But Jayden, if he doesn't play, we can't win without him.
Speaker 2: We can't. We just need we just need win with that.
Speaker 3: I Marcus Mariota came in a game through for two
Speaker 3: hundred plus, George ran for another thirty. I'll fish stain
Speaker 3: on scaled illfish stain on track. We put up forty
Speaker 3: ain't no more. You don't need no more.
Speaker 4: Of a ditch.
Speaker 1: And also, so we won this game. You, oh, what
Speaker 1: if the team's better, can we still win? We are
Speaker 1: efficient running the football, our defense is getting better. And
Speaker 1: so I think as both of those what do they
Speaker 1: call those those risers.
Speaker 2: The maturation of both sides develop.
Speaker 1: The quarterback has to do less, yes, and Cliff has
Speaker 1: shown since week one and even when he was in
Speaker 1: Arizona he knows had to insulate a quarterback. Yeah, and
Speaker 1: maximize that opportunity. So again, is it is Jane Daniel special?
Speaker 1: Absolutely are we excited about Jane Daniels one, but this team,
Speaker 1: the composition of it now, the way the defense is
Speaker 1: playing better than run the football, and the other thing
Speaker 1: I think that's important too, is the way our receivers
Speaker 1: are playing right. Yeah, they're playing well, They're playing good ball.
Speaker 2: I love the Brown brothers.
Speaker 1: Brown Brothers you mentioned Zach already, like guys that understand
Speaker 1: how to create space in this offense, which makes it
Speaker 1: easier for quarterbacks.
Speaker 4: So you know, I say this, Well it looked different. Yeah,
Speaker 4: I think so to a certain degree. But I do
Speaker 4: believe that, like you just said, Cliff is good with
Speaker 4: knowing who he has that quarterback and I'm going to
Speaker 4: put an offense together that but they've got suit him
Speaker 4: and what they do best, what we've seen this year,
Speaker 4: what they do best, the one man one sound. They
Speaker 4: played to the same beat. So whatever going on back there,
Speaker 4: they're gonna be ready. And I think that's why I
Speaker 4: have that much confidence knowing that, Hey, if we have
Speaker 4: to go out there and throw somebody like Marion out
Speaker 4: down the field, so be it. We're gonna go out
Speaker 4: there and give them my best shot.
Speaker 3: And don't forget about coaches and their special teams. Man,
Speaker 3: they have to so high mind, they are so high
Speaker 3: level ball coming out as good as our offense, good
Speaker 3: as the defense is playing.
Speaker 2: I think special team should have had a high grade
Speaker 2: out of all of them. You're playing well, they are
Speaker 2: playing will man, and I.
Speaker 1: Think that's the thing we right now. The Commanders are
Speaker 1: a good team. Yeah, it's not one good position or
Speaker 1: one good player like when you watch Cincinnati. They've got
Speaker 1: a good offense. Yeah, defense is trash. Right, We had
Speaker 1: a good team all levels, and I think we've got
Speaker 1: some good depth. And are there areas to improve?
Speaker 2: Always gonna be issues things to improve?
Speaker 1: Yes? Is that does that answer your question? Hater?
Speaker 4: No?
Speaker 1: No, mad about it?
Speaker 2: So blood pressure going up.
Speaker 5: I just there's hate boiling in me. And I've been saying,
Speaker 5: let me drop my other trading's too small. He's gonna
Speaker 5: get hurt, And it happened. This is RG three, all.
Speaker 2: Of Oh do not.
Speaker 3: I'm sorry. When you wrestle, you're gonna get hurt. Football
Speaker 3: is a four quarter wrestling match. You going to get
Speaker 3: dinged up. It ain't nobody in the NFL this week,
Speaker 3: one hundred percent. If you played in any game, you're
Speaker 3: teetering between eight and ninety percent.
Speaker 2: I don't care who you are.
Speaker 4: And yeah, go ahead.
Speaker 1: So if you just want to look at RG three
Speaker 1: and Jade Daniels, Jane Daniels throws the wall. He sees
Speaker 1: the field way better.
Speaker 2: He's a better passer, almost quicker. He's not straight lines.
Speaker 1: And so yeah, did he get nicked. Yeah, we all do.
Speaker 1: Who doesn't get nicked? And thank god it wasn't anything
Speaker 1: more serious, Like you said, like you play serious. Deshaun
Speaker 1: Watson tore his achilles stepping up in the pocket.
Speaker 2: Not touched, untouched, touched.
Speaker 1: So like football, there's an inherent amount of risk associated
Speaker 1: with it. And there it's he's gonna get dinged. He's
Speaker 1: gonna happen, and hopefully it's nothing serious. I mean, I'll
Speaker 1: bet you every single offensive lineman's dig right now.
Speaker 3: He's like one, Hey, Anthony Richard, he wasn't in forty pounds,
Speaker 3: he b rob is one of the toughest guys in
Speaker 3: the team.
Speaker 1: Dinged up, ding like it's a physical, violent sport. This
Speaker 1: is part of it. Now, it's like how you manage it.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I was gonna say, man, you know, it's inevitable.
Speaker 4: I think one of the things that we know about
Speaker 4: this game is not on us. It's on the football guards.
Speaker 4: When they say you got to go down for a
Speaker 4: little bit, you got to go down for a little bit.
Speaker 4: And I think that's what happens when you plan the
Speaker 4: way we play, the style of play that we go
Speaker 4: out there and play each and every time we step
Speaker 4: on that field, it's going to be a risk of
Speaker 4: you either getting banged up or being put out. And
Speaker 4: that's why you got to pray to the old football
Speaker 4: guard and go out there and do what you do.
Speaker 1: And we're excited. Hopefully it's it doesn't sound like it's
Speaker 1: anything too serious. A couple of weeks and hopefully it's
Speaker 1: back sooner rather than later. But yeah, man, no Bobby
Speaker 1: three sticks here.
Speaker 4: Man.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't think nobody's fair comparedson, No Bobby three.
Speaker 1: You know you're good hater.
Speaker 2: You say it, you look said.
Speaker 1: I think it's regular Jason, like he's transformed from the.
Speaker 5: Always bring me back back down.
Speaker 3: But it's good because we try to make sure the
Speaker 3: fan base understand that two hours staying the fan base
Speaker 3: get a little panicky all but this is football.
Speaker 2: This is what we do.
Speaker 5: Man.
Speaker 3: At the end of the day, we're going to get
Speaker 3: beat up. Look at it, town of fingers. All right,
Speaker 3: if you want to see what hurts looks like.
Speaker 4: He's still with.
Speaker 2: My man, can't even grabs Hey, I'll tell you this too.
Speaker 4: Man. Well, we failed to realize too as fans, because
Speaker 4: you know now that we're sitting in these seats and
Speaker 4: were able to cheer this team on. You can't keep
Speaker 4: speaking about something that you don't want to happen. Yeah,
Speaker 4: you know what I mean That that bothers me a lot.
Speaker 4: I swear because I hear a lot of talk radio
Speaker 4: talk talking about it, and I'm like, if you don't
Speaker 4: want it to happen, shut up about it, you know,
Speaker 4: I mean because.
Speaker 1: Trusting juju in there? Man, Yeah, you're.
Speaker 4: Throwing out You're throwing stuff out there that you know
Speaker 4: that's possibly because think about it, you don't need to
Speaker 4: say anything about certain certain things because it's gonna happen regardless.
Speaker 1: So this is nerdy nerdy on the glasses. I think
Speaker 1: that's called the Pygmalion prophecy never heard of. Pigmalion is
Speaker 1: when you start speaking your thinks there, but it's got
Speaker 1: a negative so and so and there is there is
Speaker 1: so much like, there's the placebo effect. It's a positive
Speaker 1: effect from something you think it's a positive association. A
Speaker 1: Pygmalion effect is and you have a negative association and
Speaker 1: something negative happened next that to me?
Speaker 3: Yeah, so, so how many pick million people he got
Speaker 3: in there?
Speaker 1: Apparently quite a few.
Speaker 2: I have a question. It's not in a rundown.
Speaker 5: I'm just curious. Can you think of a pure pocket
Speaker 5: passing quarterback who hasn't been injured?
Speaker 4: Right?
Speaker 5: Even pocket passers.
Speaker 4: I a fan of the day that I've seen more
Speaker 4: guys in the pocket get their back blown out, you
Speaker 4: know what I mean, Paul's than a guy who's who
Speaker 4: can run with the foot right here. You know what
Speaker 4: I'm saying, I'm saying, bro y'all looking at you. I'm
Speaker 4: not Troy Aikman. I'm not saying the stuff that he says.
Speaker 4: I'm just saying, like, you've seen a quarterback get hit
Speaker 4: on the blind side and be hurt more than you've
Speaker 4: seen a guy running with the football. So at the
Speaker 4: end of the day, statue happened to the best off.
Speaker 1: I was just thinking Tom Brady towards a cl in
Speaker 1: the pocket, Drew Brees shoulder in.
Speaker 2: The Peyton Manning neck, Peyton.
Speaker 1: Manning neck in the pocket. Yeah, Aaron Rodgers getting sacked
Speaker 1: in the pocket right, like it's it happens. It's a
Speaker 1: dangerous thing.
Speaker 4: So not to sit here and try to, you know,
Speaker 4: talk negatively about somebody who has a talent that you
Speaker 4: know that's rare. It's not rare anymore. That's the league is,
Speaker 4: that's the makeup. Now every quarterback they bring it in,
Speaker 4: he has to be mobile, and so they're going to
Speaker 4: get outside of the pocket and have these times. But
Speaker 4: for you to sit there as a fan and say,
Speaker 4: well maybe he went outside, bro, when we playing this game,
Speaker 4: were not thinking like that. We're trying to make a play.
Speaker 4: And if you look at it, to be frank with you,
Speaker 4: he was going down and got here.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 4: That just goes to show you sometimes happening.
Speaker 1: It's funny like I thought about that, Like so you know,
Speaker 1: obviously you can speak out of both sides your mouth here,
Speaker 1: Like maybe you should like once he's got forty yards,
Speaker 1: you only need forty seven to slide.
Speaker 2: Whatever, Oh, come on the other one.
Speaker 1: The other one though, is he's trying to go down, Yeah,
Speaker 1: and he's not protected like he's trying to get to
Speaker 1: the ground. And I've done this before, like if you're
Speaker 1: holding the ball and someone's you're trying to get to
Speaker 1: the ground and you just fall awkwardly. Yeah, as opposed
Speaker 1: to just being aggressive. I'm sure you felt that same thing.
Speaker 1: And so I think that there's no right.
Speaker 2: Answer, ain't no right way or wrong way to play
Speaker 2: this game. Played the game.
Speaker 1: And I also want to say that he's done excellent job,
Speaker 1: excellent job of not taking big hits, and that to
Speaker 1: me it was not a big hit. That was an
Speaker 1: awkward I can say, man, awkward.
Speaker 2: Every chance you hit the ground is a chance you
Speaker 2: get hurt.
Speaker 1: No one hits harder than the ground. I'll tell you
Speaker 1: that right now I've had in my career. Both of
Speaker 1: them are hit my head.
Speaker 4: On the ground.
Speaker 2: I'm sorry, the ground, don't yield.
Speaker 4: Don't give That's exactly It's like that park car running
Speaker 4: to in the street playing ran. They tell your card
Speaker 4: the last minute.
Speaker 3: Now is undefeated, but get me undefeated park cars.
Speaker 1: I'm surprised people don't have that like as a meme,
Speaker 1: you know.
Speaker 2: Like the the Keys don't play in this like we
Speaker 2: used to.
Speaker 1: That's a good point.
Speaker 4: They don't. They ain't as tough as we but we was.
Speaker 4: We was getting tackled in a little piece of grass
Speaker 4: on the side of the street, like you would say,
Speaker 4: touching the street.
Speaker 2: But when you hit that grass.
Speaker 4: Well, I'm giving you this, And so it was guys,
Speaker 4: wouldn't touch that grass? What reason I need to touch
Speaker 4: the grade? All the time? I out run everybody, you
Speaker 4: know what I mean. So it is one of those things,
Speaker 4: man like, they don't make us the.
Speaker 2: Same, you know what, boys too.
Speaker 4: That's why so many folks mentally you're thinking that way
Speaker 4: because they not. They don't think with the same process
Speaker 4: that we have. We're ball players. We understand the nature
Speaker 4: of our game absolutely.
Speaker 1: I think that's good on Jaydon Daniels. Yeah, and hopefully
Speaker 1: he's back soon. It's yep, yeah, all that stuff. Right.
Speaker 1: So now we got the Bears Bears, all right, so
Speaker 1: theres I start on the offensive side.
Speaker 3: You could think about the Bears. It's just so crazy
Speaker 3: to me. They got last in the division at four
Speaker 3: and two.
Speaker 2: That is tell you what's going on in the North
Speaker 2: right now.
Speaker 1: They also had the easiest schedule of the year so.
Speaker 4: Far, for say before and yeah.
Speaker 1: But yeah, that the divisions so Let's start on the offense,
Speaker 1: because KYLEB. Williams, he's the big story coming home, coming home.
Speaker 1: I think has played better the last two weeks. But
Speaker 1: they've played who they play. They played the jacksonvill Jaguars
Speaker 1: in London is terrible. Yeah, and they also played the
Speaker 1: Carolina Panthers, who we played. We saw them, and I
Speaker 1: hate to break it to Carolina fans same.
Speaker 3: I'm telling Carolina fans they used to be Washington fans
Speaker 3: before the Panthers got there. You can come back to
Speaker 3: these bands, do it. The band wagon is open fan.
Speaker 3: I understand how sad it he is.
Speaker 2: Come on back.
Speaker 1: But so what I'm saying is Caleb Williams is playing better. Yeah,
Speaker 1: their offense is executing better. He's playing on schedule, shame day.
Speaker 1: Their offensive corner has done a great job of finding
Speaker 1: better stuff for him. Is that because they're actually better
Speaker 1: or is it all fugezi because they've just played bad time.
Speaker 4: I think it's given a benefit of doubt too. I
Speaker 4: think you know, when you when you had to kind
Speaker 4: of run that they ran into the first a couple
Speaker 4: of weeks, you have nothing but up to go. I mean,
Speaker 4: I feel like they was at the lord that they
Speaker 4: can be far as him how he played and being
Speaker 4: a rookie, you're gonna you expect that you expect. Let's
Speaker 4: see what you've seen from our guy. You know what
Speaker 4: I mean? You expect these guys to have these bumping rolls.
Speaker 4: And I think to his credit, to Cavid's credit to
Speaker 4: the office, according to credit to their team credit, they
Speaker 4: found the way to say, hey, you know what, man,
Speaker 4: why is this guy up here in Washington having some
Speaker 4: much success? All right, let's do some of the things
Speaker 4: that this guys that simplified his offense. That's give him
Speaker 4: some more things that he's good at, and now we
Speaker 4: can see a better effort. And regardless of who they played,
Speaker 4: right as Carolina Jacksonville, they did just that.
Speaker 3: And the fact that this dude got weapons every lord where,
Speaker 3: committed receivers running back, Oh my god, like look at
Speaker 3: the weapons, Like think about this, that weaponry, y'all.
Speaker 2: Remember what happened to his last year with DJ Moore
Speaker 2: came by himself. You know, he had two hundred plus
Speaker 2: shorts by himself. That what I telling you? Now you
Speaker 2: got roma doomsday?
Speaker 3: All right, Allen, Allen, like this, listen, man, this could
Speaker 3: be to me one of the best rosters they have
Speaker 3: assembled play rookie quarterban.
Speaker 2: Like ever.
Speaker 3: The only roster I can think that was starting to
Speaker 3: build like this it was Peyton Man his coat teams.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well as a rookie hit, did he already?
Speaker 4: They stunk? They stump.
Speaker 2: But I thought e J came in next year, right, yep.
Speaker 3: So you know, other than that, man, I don't see
Speaker 3: I don't remember rookie having a roster like yeah.
Speaker 1: I mean, it's it's it's it's just so interesting watching
Speaker 1: them because you know, Keenan Allen still has that He's
Speaker 1: not fast, but kind of that Jason Kelsey, Travis Kelce,
Speaker 1: I know how to find space, really good at running choices.
Speaker 1: My route stems are crazy. So sometimes they'll just play
Speaker 1: like one on one isolation basketball, and he's good enough
Speaker 1: to win the box out, yeah, and like run a
Speaker 1: choice and find the space and get open. And him
Speaker 1: and Caleb are slowly getting more chemistry. I mentioned DJ
Speaker 1: more his ability down the field. It's crazy.
Speaker 4: He's running after the catch makes him he's like he's
Speaker 4: like he has a bill like he like Jamar Chase.
Speaker 4: They both built the same they have that that that
Speaker 4: that I guess you can say, similar to my little body,
Speaker 4: that that stout little body. And but they're a little
Speaker 4: a little taller than I am. But those guys run
Speaker 4: to catch man. They like little running beast once they
Speaker 4: catch the ball.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, Doomsday got me all messed up.
Speaker 2: Now I say it with Doomsday.
Speaker 1: Yeah, stop saying it.
Speaker 4: You're messing me up.
Speaker 1: So he's coming off, he's like there, he's like their
Speaker 1: third option in the and then their offensive line has
Speaker 1: been struggling with the last couple of weeks playing a
Speaker 1: little bit better. I think that coincides with Caleb. When
Speaker 1: you watch the Tennessee game, he's trying to play on time,
Speaker 1: but not you know, like when Jayden's back there, it's
Speaker 1: like boom to drop, boom, anticipate, throw the balls out.
Speaker 1: He's trying to He's still see a little bit. And
Speaker 1: as we've gone into the season, like Tennis said, a
Speaker 1: little bit more comfortable time. He's getting better old, playing better.
Speaker 1: They're running the football better. So I guess the next question,
Speaker 1: now that we've kind of previewed what they've got going on, yeah,
Speaker 1: is how do you stop them? Like, what's the solution?
Speaker 3: I think this is what you do same similar thing
Speaker 3: we did to the Panthers is you get them outside
Speaker 3: of their comfort zone by making them play from behind.
Speaker 3: When you make them play from behind, you make them
Speaker 3: one dimensional. And if they make them one dimensional, I
Speaker 3: was ready to put the game into this rookie hands
Speaker 3: and say you go beat me. I don't want you
Speaker 3: to have your whole preferable things you can do to me,
Speaker 3: like I want to take your time in off and
Speaker 3: I want you to trail so you are forced to
Speaker 3: throw your way back in there.
Speaker 2: I think this the best.
Speaker 4: Well, I'll tell you this. They're going to come in
Speaker 4: with a lot of confidence, just feeling like that our
Speaker 4: secondary what they've seen the last two weeks isn't us
Speaker 4: and they're gonna be surprised because I feel like, we
Speaker 4: want you to throw the ball. We want you to
Speaker 4: will and deal it out there, knowing that that's what
Speaker 4: Kaylor like to do. Yeah, he put that ball in
Speaker 4: the air. He's a rookie, so at the end of
Speaker 4: the day, he's very confident and all the things he
Speaker 4: can do with that. He's going to put it out there.
Speaker 4: And I can assure you Joe Witt can't wait to
Speaker 4: show him looks see if hey, you learn have you
Speaker 4: learned from the early couple of weeks those picture was throwing.
Speaker 4: I'm gonna show you a look and see if you
Speaker 4: read write and when he throw that ball, trust me,
Speaker 4: you're you're gonna see a couple of more pics this week.
Speaker 2: Let's talk about the emotional value.
Speaker 4: He's coming home. He's probably gonna have.
Speaker 3: To buy thirty thread them from him, heenan Allen him
Speaker 3: and more. Yeah, so when they come home, it's gonna
Speaker 3: be this hyper I want to put this show on.
Speaker 3: I want you to think that.
Speaker 2: I want that to be in the back of your
Speaker 2: mental because that's what gets you beat.
Speaker 4: That's what gets you beat.
Speaker 3: That's what gets you beat. So I want him to
Speaker 3: be all primed up and ready to go. But if
Speaker 3: I can force him to throw thirty five forty times,
Speaker 3: we win his game.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, so I think that what I would say
Speaker 1: is can the Washington Commanders, Joe Wood Junior, this defensive
Speaker 1: line stopped the run. And something we didn't talk about
Speaker 1: versus Carolina when they got into twelve personnel or twenty
Speaker 1: one personnel, they basically and like old Seattle cover three,
Speaker 1: like fifty seven front. So what that means is you
Speaker 1: put the safety on the ball strong.
Speaker 4: Yep.
Speaker 1: You put a guy in the in the sea gap,
Speaker 1: a five technique, you put a three technique to the
Speaker 1: front side, a shade to the front side, three technique
Speaker 1: backside defense end, so every gap it's covered, and then
Speaker 1: you have a box player as a safety, and then
Speaker 1: you have two extual linebackers. So they were committed to
Speaker 1: stopping the run, and when they did that, there was
Speaker 1: nowhere to go where you gotta play cover three behind that.
Speaker 1: But I think you feel okay with Caleb Williams just
Speaker 1: be like, hey, you're not going to run the football.
Speaker 1: We're going to force you to beat us from the pocket,
Speaker 1: because I do think while Caleb is improving, I want
Speaker 1: to see if he can do it all the time. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they take the tanna. I think I think high level
Speaker 1: stop the run on first or second down, right went
Speaker 1: on third down. Can you what's the best matchup for
Speaker 1: Keenan Allen? That would be my other question.
Speaker 2: Well, he's gonna be a special I think Mike Sanders Steel.
Speaker 4: I'm gonna say Managa, Yeah, he got to be on him.
Speaker 3: I think Sarma Steel because Sarmy Steele is sticky he's.
Speaker 2: A great tackle.
Speaker 3: Look because the one thing Keenan that yeah, ain't there
Speaker 3: no more like it used to be with me.
Speaker 2: So I need somebody to know.
Speaker 4: If you do that, then you put Igmannaghi on on
Speaker 4: either more and let and let two five have a doomsday,
Speaker 4: which to me, I think that's the safest bet for
Speaker 4: for all three of those guys because if you like,
Speaker 4: if you think Saner still is more sticky, he is faster,
Speaker 4: so it probably would be good on I mean on Keenan.
Speaker 4: But Keenan is savvy, veteran man. He gonna try out
Speaker 4: a rookie on a guy like him.
Speaker 3: That's why I said I won't do it because of
Speaker 3: a rookie. Now stare, but you also realize he's playing inside.
Speaker 4: But I understand what you're saying. But that's if we're
Speaker 4: not putting enough pressure on buddy. Yeah on Caleb that
Speaker 4: that one three, yeah gonna get open. I don't care
Speaker 4: who you is, that he gonna find a way to
Speaker 4: get over.
Speaker 1: The one reason I would have said it is because
Speaker 1: of the ability to be physical. I'm talking so much
Speaker 1: of what Keenan Allen does is his releases are excellent,
Speaker 1: but it's timing and it's post up. Yeah, it's timing,
Speaker 1: So just put a little bigger. But I will see, we'll.
Speaker 4: See, we're gonna be We're gonna have a situation where
Speaker 4: it's going to be like a who you put on more?
Speaker 4: Like who? You don't put two five on more? You
Speaker 4: don't you put someone in there who don't care and say,
Speaker 4: I'm gonna be physical with him, because, like I said,
Speaker 4: what we don't like as received, especially when you explos
Speaker 4: to be touched. You don't like to be pushed off
Speaker 4: your route. You don't want to be irritated at the
Speaker 4: line of scrimmage. So if we can irritate you enough,
Speaker 4: which I saw us do a lot of that last week,
Speaker 4: and get those guys to get home to a young
Speaker 4: quarterback who's probably not going to be thinking as good
Speaker 4: as we want him to, I mean, or they want
Speaker 4: him to right now, and this won his career. Now
Speaker 4: you give him a chance to do all that stuff
Speaker 4: he liked to do back there, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: Now you let them dogs eat because now he's not
Speaker 4: going to see it and he's not going to be
Speaker 4: on schedule, like that's not his game. You see what
Speaker 4: I'm saying, so you get him off his game and
Speaker 4: have him doing all that that running around in the backfield,
Speaker 4: and when our guys get home and bring.
Speaker 2: Him passing downs, do you try to sneak in some
Speaker 2: two men under.
Speaker 1: That's what I would try to. They've done a little
Speaker 1: bit of that. I would try to Joey did it
Speaker 1: last weekend, and it's a change up. It's not the
Speaker 1: main thing. I think, do more more like cover two,
Speaker 1: more cover three, And that's what i'd say to ten.
Speaker 1: It's like, if we're in more zone, I think you
Speaker 1: feel okay with Saint just over there because Saint jus
Speaker 1: because he does a good job playing zone, you know.
Speaker 1: So I think that match up and how and again,
Speaker 1: like if you're if they're saying, if you're looking for
Speaker 1: things to watch, is can the commander stop the run?
Speaker 1: How do they match up with all these playmakers? Because
Speaker 1: we haven't even talked about Cole Comet.
Speaker 2: I'm would say him and Ching matchup and commit.
Speaker 1: And then Caleb Williams, can you keep him in the pocket? Yeah,
Speaker 1: because I will say versus Jacksonville, they ran more design
Speaker 1: quarterback run stuff and it just broke the back of
Speaker 1: Jacksonville because they let them steal possessions, let them stay
Speaker 1: on the schedule, not not.
Speaker 4: To get off with Jacksonville. Just was a year ago.
Speaker 4: There was they was driving, they looked bad.
Speaker 2: Wow, how much a year changes The prince who was
Speaker 2: promised Trevor.
Speaker 1: And he's having a hard time in Yeah, he is
Speaker 1: the other one, I'd say too. Okay, so that's defense.
Speaker 1: Lots of things to look at there, but those are
Speaker 1: the three things I think we're going to focus on.
Speaker 1: The Next thing I'd say too, is do Yeah, how
Speaker 1: does this offense perform against their defense. They've got a
Speaker 1: lot of play.
Speaker 4: They got the ball.
Speaker 1: Yeah, their defensive lines playing well. We got some ball
Speaker 1: buyers playing well in the back end. They're doing a
Speaker 1: lot of good stuff. But I will say watching their
Speaker 1: first and second down cut up not overly complicated.
Speaker 2: They run a lot of cover.
Speaker 1: Three, they play a little bit of quarters, but pretty simple.
Speaker 1: Third down obviously you get a little spicy, but like
Speaker 1: they're really like, we're gonna play four down front coverage
Speaker 1: in the back end, yeah, probably zone, and we're just
Speaker 1: going to be faster and better.
Speaker 4: This is one of those games I want to see.
Speaker 4: I want to see a heavy dose of our run game,
Speaker 4: and not saying a heavy dose as in is overshadowing
Speaker 4: what we do passing. But you know how like back
Speaker 4: in the day when especially all the teams I played
Speaker 4: on before Caldom got even when Caldom was here, it
Speaker 4: was almost that first and second down of runs. I
Speaker 4: know we get to the run a lot differently because
Speaker 4: we can use different screens and stuff to get to
Speaker 4: our run game. But I really want to see us
Speaker 4: get behind a good run and to open the pass.
Speaker 4: You see what I'm saying. Not knowing who we're going
Speaker 4: to have back their passing, regardless of which one of
Speaker 4: those guys back there, I believe, with this defense and
Speaker 4: what they do well up front, you don't want to
Speaker 4: see them getting off at the quarterback. You want to
Speaker 4: see those guys so you don't want I want to
Speaker 4: see us going down here now, I don't. I want
Speaker 4: to see us going downhill on that defense, tire them
Speaker 4: out and then now boom being banged. You know what
Speaker 4: I'm saying, Find find those open lanes.
Speaker 2: You know, is this a screen and draw game?
Speaker 4: Anyway we can get to a run, you know what
Speaker 4: I'm saying. Any Way you can get to whether we're
Speaker 4: doing those motions, those those those zigs as were the
Speaker 4: wide receivers coming in the backfield. Man, I would I
Speaker 4: would do a lot of that and uh, including with
Speaker 4: the run game because I feel that, Don't get me wrong,
Speaker 4: I feel that with the packages that we put in
Speaker 4: the game. When you have Eckler in the game and
Speaker 4: be robbed Bro to me, I'm sitting there confused at
Speaker 4: times who's getting the ball. We know at the end
Speaker 4: of the day. Sometime when especially when we have a run,
Speaker 4: b Rob has it. But Bro that that's always going
Speaker 4: to keep a defense on their heels not knowing because.
Speaker 2: There's three runners.
Speaker 3: The quarterbacks are runner, the left running backers are running,
Speaker 3: the right running backers are runner. Now you have to
Speaker 3: find a Simon football. If you ain't playing a Simon football,
Speaker 3: then we're going to be Yeah.
Speaker 1: And so just previewing the Bears here a little bit
Speaker 1: because again I think I think that's the right idea.
Speaker 1: But they are pretty good up front Montest obviously DeMarcus Walker.
Speaker 1: Gervin Dexter is leading the team in sacks and he's
Speaker 1: got five sacks. Their three techniques, so kind of a
Speaker 1: surprising name there t J. Edwards at will linebacker, Jack
Speaker 1: Sanborn is a rookie last year. He's playing really really well,
Speaker 1: and Tremaine Edmonds. So the point I bring all those
Speaker 1: names up is their first level is good and there's
Speaker 1: second levels and their safeties are good, excellent. Jakwan Risker
Speaker 1: is kind of their jermy chin and analegis. I didn't say,
Speaker 1: but he's a risk He almost killed some dude from Carolina,
Speaker 1: Like he had a hit where it's like a little
Speaker 1: check to the flat, yeah, and he came up there
Speaker 1: and like, you know, those hits were are like I
Speaker 1: hope everyone's alive. Yeah, And he does that on the right,
Speaker 1: so he's kind of the enforcer. And then Jalen Johnson
Speaker 1: is also their corner playing really well. So the point is,
Speaker 1: I know I just said like twelve names. No, he
Speaker 1: switched his number now he used to be there number one.
Speaker 1: He number one now playing that.
Speaker 4: He's from Miami.
Speaker 1: He's playing. He's playing good too. But so the point
Speaker 1: is the front is good. The safeties that are going
Speaker 1: to be in run support are good. They're getting good
Speaker 1: production on the football, like they basically beat Tennessee. I
Speaker 1: think is the game I'm thinking of with like three
Speaker 1: defensive turnovers, you know, like they turn the football over
Speaker 1: so and it's not overly complicated, and I think Cliff
Speaker 1: will be able to scheme him up really well.
Speaker 2: Three oh it's in a cloud of dust.
Speaker 1: But you got to throw the ball. You gotta find
Speaker 1: explosive plays, and they've done a really good job of
Speaker 1: midicating that. So what I think to Tanni's point, run
Speaker 1: the football. If Jade's healthy, let's let's find a way
Speaker 1: to get explosive down the field. I think Marcus showed
Speaker 1: last week can get that done. Also, let's be a
Speaker 1: little bit more selective about that, because if you can
Speaker 1: manage game flow, like we talked about it, if you
Speaker 1: can manage game flow with this team, you're gonna put
Speaker 1: Caleb Williams in a tough spot. Yeacces.
Speaker 4: He don't want to go out the show out and
Speaker 4: be Willie.
Speaker 1: Beaman steaming demon.
Speaker 5: Uh.
Speaker 1: But the thing too, is he.
Speaker 4: Thinking about something to say about it that today.
Speaker 2: He's saying that.
Speaker 1: But Yeah, I'm really excited for this game, really excited
Speaker 1: to see both young quarterbacks, really excited to see kind
Speaker 1: of Washington again take that next step. Every single week
Speaker 1: they've taken a step.
Speaker 4: They've grown as a team every week.
Speaker 1: This is a good marker again, because this is a
Speaker 1: good this is a good bear.
Speaker 4: That's what it seemed like we've been faced with each
Speaker 4: and every week. Whether it's a tough team or not,
Speaker 4: it's a marker. It's like, can't you overcome what's going
Speaker 4: on with this situation? And they've done it. You know
Speaker 4: they've been doing it. You know, I guess you could
Speaker 4: say the right way. They worry about self. Yeah, I
Speaker 4: can't worry about worry about that team.
Speaker 1: All right, So now everyone's favorite segment?
Speaker 4: Hell yeah or hell no? No? No?
Speaker 1: Okay, first one, yep, Caleb Williams will have more turnovers
Speaker 1: than TDS.
Speaker 3: Yes, because of that emotional coming back home. I think
Speaker 3: he's gonna be over zealous. I think he's gonna make a.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Hell yes, how only turnovers?
Speaker 1: You think this guy's got to throw this.
Speaker 2: I just feel like he's gonna be too too hike
Speaker 2: to come home and prove a point.
Speaker 4: I just don't want to see him throw No TDS.
Speaker 4: He can have one turn on fall out. Yeah, Like
Speaker 4: I know for a.
Speaker 3: Fact we probably gonna get him trying to overdo it
Speaker 3: inside the pocket or make some time and maybe get
Speaker 3: a forced fumble or something. Frankie Louvu knocking the ball
Speaker 3: out of his hands. I think something is going to
Speaker 3: happen with him trying to be a wizard.
Speaker 1: In the last three games, he's had seven touchdowns in
Speaker 1: one interception, So definitely kind of riding the hot streak here.
Speaker 1: He don't find obviously earlier in the season versus the Texans,
Speaker 1: three interceptions. Be nice to get aim like that. I'm
Speaker 1: gonna say, hell, no, I don't think. I don't think
Speaker 1: he does that. I think I think we win, but
Speaker 1: I think he's gonna I got you have more touchdowns.
Speaker 4: I ain't mad at you.
Speaker 1: Do you think you don't think somebody you talking about?
Speaker 3: No, I just think he gonna be You know how
Speaker 3: it is when you come home, you want to prove
Speaker 3: a point. And everybody's been talking about Jayde Daniels, Jayde Daniel,
Speaker 3: Jaydon even.
Speaker 1: Though you think he over tries.
Speaker 3: I think I think he tried to sit through record
Speaker 3: straight and say I'm the best quarterback in this draft.
Speaker 2: And when he doing that, I think he's gonna turn
Speaker 2: the ball over.
Speaker 3: Yeah, because Jane don't seem to get high and get
Speaker 3: low like Caleb is kind of emotional.
Speaker 1: Made me change my.
Speaker 2: He's emotional.
Speaker 4: Man, y'all, we all can't be on the same course,
Speaker 4: So keep you hoy.
Speaker 1: Brian Robinson will have more yards than DeAndre Swift. Rushing
Speaker 1: doesn't matter. Yeah, yes, I think this is one hundred. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think the true This is like the easiest one
Speaker 1: we ever had. Yeah it is because well, Swift is
Speaker 1: playing better. I mean, be Rob's the beast.
Speaker 2: Yeah, listen, I don't even need to put Unleash the Beast.
Speaker 4: Just yes, this is his best game he's gonna have.
Speaker 4: That's far. Yeah, yeah, unleash the Beast.
Speaker 2: Yeah, run down here, all right?
Speaker 1: Cool, all right, next one, the Commanders will score at
Speaker 1: least thirty points.
Speaker 4: That's the tight one. That's a clue.
Speaker 3: I say, hell no, I think no. I think there's
Speaker 3: gonna be a low scoring game. I think we score
Speaker 3: gonna be seventeen to ten. Yeah really yeah, yeah, I'm not.
Speaker 4: I'm not. I'm not big on the point spreads and
Speaker 4: all that stuff. Just you get the w that's how
Speaker 4: by any means necessary, I don't have to be thirty.
Speaker 2: I just say anyone will be thirty total points.
Speaker 5: I know.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was a crazy score.
Speaker 2: Yeah, seventeen ten.
Speaker 4: I just see it. Man, Lord Mercy Cyber.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say hell I'm gonna say hell yeah, I
Speaker 1: say more than thirty Hell No. I think I think.
Speaker 1: I think we're gonna think it's a good Chicago No,
Speaker 1: that's what I think. I think it's gonna be a
Speaker 1: big statement game for the offense against a good defense.
Speaker 4: Put the pedal to the mill.
Speaker 1: That's what I want to see.
Speaker 2: I ain't mad at you. Oh, I want to see it. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I'm just you know, I like to try to be realist.
Speaker 1: It's a lot of points, That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: That's why I picked seventeen a teen.
Speaker 1: I'm saying hell yeah, because I'm in on it. I said,
Speaker 1: anything else we have to talk.
Speaker 2: About, Oh, we can talk about anything, fellas.
Speaker 1: I know this is our show, but I think we're
Speaker 1: gonna be done. We're done with the show for today.
Speaker 1: If that's spread's answer, because I don't know where that's
Speaker 1: gonna go. All right, Thanks so much for watching the show.
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