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We'll talk about 21 00:01:02,000 --> 00:01:05,839 Speaker 2: the Tush push because in a moment of frustration trying 22 00:01:05,880 --> 00:01:09,000 Speaker 2: to look at this and he was on the call 23 00:01:09,120 --> 00:01:12,080 Speaker 2: with the Eagles and the Chiefs. He said, I give up. 24 00:01:12,360 --> 00:01:14,480 Speaker 2: I don't know how you officiate this. We'll talk to 25 00:01:14,560 --> 00:01:18,520 Speaker 2: him about that. And is that reason enough for two 26 00:01:18,560 --> 00:01:21,959 Speaker 2: more owners to say they don't want the Tush push 27 00:01:22,240 --> 00:01:24,440 Speaker 2: and they'll vote against it because it was two votes 28 00:01:24,480 --> 00:01:29,360 Speaker 2: away from being tabled, Well, it was table. Bit, it 29 00:01:29,360 --> 00:01:32,240 Speaker 2: was two votes away from being eliminated from the NFL. 30 00:01:32,440 --> 00:01:36,640 Speaker 2: That will happen in an hour from now. Let's see 31 00:01:36,680 --> 00:01:39,720 Speaker 2: eight seven seven three DP show operator Tyler. He's sitting by. 32 00:01:39,800 --> 00:01:43,680 Speaker 2: He'll take your phone calls. Pull question for the second hour. Actually, 33 00:01:43,760 --> 00:01:46,960 Speaker 2: let's clean up first hour poll questions and then go 34 00:01:47,000 --> 00:01:47,680 Speaker 2: down hour two. 35 00:01:47,720 --> 00:01:48,040 Speaker 3: Seaton. 36 00:01:48,200 --> 00:01:50,040 Speaker 4: Yeah, first hour we kind of pivoted a little bit. 37 00:01:50,040 --> 00:01:55,400 Speaker 4: Who's more super bowlish, the Buccaneers or the Chargers. Right now, 38 00:01:55,440 --> 00:01:58,880 Speaker 4: the Chargers have sixty seven percent of that vote, which 39 00:01:58,920 --> 00:02:00,920 Speaker 4: is the opposite of the way I think the room thought. 40 00:02:01,800 --> 00:02:04,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, I just think an easier path for Tampa Bay. 41 00:02:04,640 --> 00:02:08,360 Speaker 2: I have to factor that in. They have been consistent 42 00:02:08,480 --> 00:02:10,120 Speaker 2: the last what four years? 43 00:02:10,120 --> 00:02:10,600 Speaker 3: Five years? 44 00:02:10,639 --> 00:02:14,720 Speaker 2: They won their division, and I mean they won a 45 00:02:14,720 --> 00:02:16,799 Speaker 2: game last night that I didn't think they were going 46 00:02:16,840 --> 00:02:22,160 Speaker 2: to hanged up offensive line, but Baker Mayfield did a 47 00:02:22,200 --> 00:02:25,119 Speaker 2: great job leading the team down to victory, and here 48 00:02:25,240 --> 00:02:26,520 Speaker 2: is Baker after the game. 49 00:02:27,880 --> 00:02:30,320 Speaker 5: In these two minute close games, we were not on 50 00:02:30,360 --> 00:02:32,280 Speaker 5: the right side of things for the past couple of years, 51 00:02:32,320 --> 00:02:35,359 Speaker 5: and it's good to see that we haven't even played 52 00:02:35,400 --> 00:02:37,800 Speaker 5: close to our best ball in all three phases and 53 00:02:38,040 --> 00:02:39,839 Speaker 5: we're still finding ways to win on the road. 54 00:02:39,880 --> 00:02:41,280 Speaker 3: And that's that's really important. 55 00:02:41,400 --> 00:02:44,000 Speaker 5: It is to not out loose side of that we're 56 00:02:44,000 --> 00:02:46,160 Speaker 5: finding ways to win, but also we do need to 57 00:02:46,160 --> 00:02:46,840 Speaker 5: get things fixed. 58 00:02:47,160 --> 00:02:49,280 Speaker 3: Some of these games can make it. 59 00:02:49,200 --> 00:02:52,000 Speaker 5: Easier on ourselves and try and put the teams away earlier. 60 00:02:52,080 --> 00:02:53,519 Speaker 5: But this is a good team that we played, so 61 00:02:53,560 --> 00:02:56,960 Speaker 5: it's we expected a hard fought battle. But yeah, it's 62 00:02:57,240 --> 00:02:58,160 Speaker 5: nice to be on the right side of it. 63 00:02:58,800 --> 00:03:01,480 Speaker 2: Fifth consecutive beer two Sampas open up the season, two 64 00:03:01,560 --> 00:03:04,320 Speaker 2: and oh longest active streak in the NFL. 65 00:03:04,880 --> 00:03:08,160 Speaker 3: What other pole questions putting up there right now? 66 00:03:08,760 --> 00:03:13,520 Speaker 4: The AFC team that two and oh that won't make 67 00:03:13,560 --> 00:03:14,079 Speaker 4: the playoffs? 68 00:03:14,120 --> 00:03:14,560 Speaker 3: Your options? 69 00:03:14,600 --> 00:03:19,920 Speaker 4: They're Bill's Chargers, Bengals, Colts two and oh team that 70 00:03:20,000 --> 00:03:21,760 Speaker 4: won't make the playoffs from the AFC. 71 00:03:21,919 --> 00:03:23,200 Speaker 3: I'll say the Bengals there. 72 00:03:23,600 --> 00:03:25,639 Speaker 2: I do believe in the Colts. I mean the Colts 73 00:03:25,680 --> 00:03:28,359 Speaker 2: could have made the playoffs last year. I think it's 74 00:03:28,360 --> 00:03:30,200 Speaker 2: a talented team. I know we want to look at 75 00:03:30,320 --> 00:03:33,160 Speaker 2: Daniel Jones and say you're not going to make the 76 00:03:33,160 --> 00:03:34,040 Speaker 2: playoffs with him. 77 00:03:34,560 --> 00:03:36,680 Speaker 3: I think he just has to do enough. 78 00:03:37,240 --> 00:03:40,040 Speaker 2: You got a really good running back, you got skilled position, 79 00:03:40,160 --> 00:03:42,880 Speaker 2: and I think they're sneaking now. I'm not saying they're 80 00:03:42,920 --> 00:03:44,960 Speaker 2: a great team or boy they're going to be dangerous 81 00:03:45,080 --> 00:03:47,360 Speaker 2: in the postseason, but I do think they have a 82 00:03:47,440 --> 00:03:49,040 Speaker 2: playoff caliber roster. 83 00:03:49,520 --> 00:03:50,680 Speaker 3: Yes, Tod, And how do. 84 00:03:50,640 --> 00:03:52,880 Speaker 6: You score on your first ten possessions of the season. 85 00:03:52,920 --> 00:03:54,480 Speaker 6: I find that amazing that they got at least a 86 00:03:54,520 --> 00:03:56,560 Speaker 6: field goal the first ten times they touched the ball. 87 00:03:56,680 --> 00:03:59,080 Speaker 2: Well, it also helped they were playing against the Broncos 88 00:03:59,120 --> 00:04:01,400 Speaker 2: this weekend. By the way, Todd gets a pie to 89 00:04:01,440 --> 00:04:04,960 Speaker 2: the face at the end of the show that I do. 90 00:04:05,280 --> 00:04:07,320 Speaker 3: I don't know what kind of pie. I left that 91 00:04:07,400 --> 00:04:08,440 Speaker 3: up to the back room guys. 92 00:04:08,520 --> 00:04:11,440 Speaker 2: Unless you requested something after your Broncos lost to thee 93 00:04:11,680 --> 00:04:12,040 Speaker 2: I did not. 94 00:04:12,120 --> 00:04:14,360 Speaker 6: I'm just going to let it randomly find out later 95 00:04:14,400 --> 00:04:15,000 Speaker 6: on what it is. 96 00:04:15,680 --> 00:04:18,240 Speaker 2: Dylan just sent me the Super Bowl odds for the 97 00:04:18,360 --> 00:04:21,520 Speaker 2: Chargers and the Buccaneers after last night. Who do you 98 00:04:21,520 --> 00:04:25,440 Speaker 2: think has better Super Bowl odds? This according to DraftKings, 99 00:04:27,160 --> 00:04:30,000 Speaker 2: if you said the Chargers, you would be right plus 100 00:04:30,040 --> 00:04:33,479 Speaker 2: sixteen hundred, the Buccaneers plus two thousand. 101 00:04:37,200 --> 00:04:43,720 Speaker 3: Whoa stand of a day? Stanta day, Statuta day, stand 102 00:04:43,760 --> 00:04:44,360 Speaker 3: outa day. 103 00:04:45,480 --> 00:04:50,719 Speaker 7: This is the stele of the day. 104 00:04:52,880 --> 00:04:55,440 Speaker 2: A lot of chattered today about Tom Brady being in 105 00:04:55,480 --> 00:05:00,880 Speaker 2: the coaches booth last night with the Raiders lost. They're 106 00:05:00,880 --> 00:05:04,040 Speaker 2: not even hiding. I mean it's right there, like Tom 107 00:05:04,480 --> 00:05:07,280 Speaker 2: part owner, and you're allowed to sit in there and 108 00:05:07,800 --> 00:05:12,479 Speaker 2: help Chip Kelly and his staff. Albert Breer, Monday Morning 109 00:05:12,560 --> 00:05:16,919 Speaker 2: Quarterback sent out a tweet. People think of just the 110 00:05:17,040 --> 00:05:20,640 Speaker 2: strategic stuff, but it goes deeper than that. You can 111 00:05:20,680 --> 00:05:24,680 Speaker 2: also gather pertinent detail on players in production meetings to 112 00:05:24,760 --> 00:05:28,400 Speaker 2: inform free agent signings and trades, or figure out who 113 00:05:28,560 --> 00:05:32,159 Speaker 2: the key assistant coaches are and try to poach them. 114 00:05:32,240 --> 00:05:35,640 Speaker 2: Lots of layers to this. With Tom Brady and his 115 00:05:35,800 --> 00:05:39,039 Speaker 2: role at Fox and as a minority owner of the Raiders, 116 00:05:39,600 --> 00:05:43,159 Speaker 2: James Palmer, he says that Tom Brady meets with Chip 117 00:05:43,240 --> 00:05:45,080 Speaker 2: Kelly two to three times a week to go over 118 00:05:45,200 --> 00:05:48,120 Speaker 2: film and go through the game plan and every weekend, 119 00:05:48,200 --> 00:05:50,760 Speaker 2: Brady is calling a game for Fox, gathering as much 120 00:05:50,800 --> 00:05:54,440 Speaker 2: information as possible from players and coaches from both teams 121 00:05:54,800 --> 00:05:58,520 Speaker 2: to be at his best in the broadcast booth period. 122 00:05:58,920 --> 00:06:03,480 Speaker 2: Got it, snarky? Got it, yeah, Paulie. 123 00:06:03,839 --> 00:06:07,039 Speaker 8: Tom Brady earlier in the day yesterday announced a partnership 124 00:06:07,160 --> 00:06:09,839 Speaker 8: with Fanatics to play a flag football game in Saudi 125 00:06:09,880 --> 00:06:13,320 Speaker 8: Arabia next March. That was the second most controversial thing. 126 00:06:13,320 --> 00:06:13,600 Speaker 3: He did. 127 00:06:14,960 --> 00:06:16,200 Speaker 8: Think about that per a second. 128 00:06:18,800 --> 00:06:22,080 Speaker 2: Once again, it's apparently not a conflict of interest, and 129 00:06:22,320 --> 00:06:26,760 Speaker 2: uh well, I might have a problem with it, but 130 00:06:26,960 --> 00:06:29,200 Speaker 2: you know, I'm one voice. I just don't like the 131 00:06:29,240 --> 00:06:33,200 Speaker 2: look of it. And if the owners are okay, quietly 132 00:06:33,240 --> 00:06:37,359 Speaker 2: okay with this, maybe they're not, I wouldn't be. But 133 00:06:37,839 --> 00:06:41,159 Speaker 2: I just can't imagine if I'm Ben Johnson and I'm 134 00:06:41,160 --> 00:06:44,840 Speaker 2: the Bears head coach and we play the Raiders the 135 00:06:44,880 --> 00:06:47,400 Speaker 2: following week and Tom is going to be calling our 136 00:06:47,480 --> 00:06:48,599 Speaker 2: game this week? 137 00:06:49,839 --> 00:06:53,599 Speaker 3: How forthcoming am I going to be? Or can I be? 138 00:06:54,560 --> 00:06:57,240 Speaker 3: Should I be? Yeah, Paulie. 139 00:06:57,520 --> 00:07:00,680 Speaker 8: And that's another competitive advantage, Like the Bears now have 140 00:07:00,800 --> 00:07:02,680 Speaker 8: to go into a production meeting and they need every 141 00:07:02,680 --> 00:07:04,880 Speaker 8: bit of help they can get. Thinking about how they 142 00:07:04,920 --> 00:07:07,680 Speaker 8: attack that production meeting instead of walking in, giving a 143 00:07:07,680 --> 00:07:10,200 Speaker 8: few lines to the production team and the announcers and 144 00:07:10,240 --> 00:07:13,559 Speaker 8: walking out. Now they have to adjust what they're doing 145 00:07:14,320 --> 00:07:14,840 Speaker 8: for Tom. 146 00:07:16,280 --> 00:07:19,000 Speaker 2: I haven't been in those production meetings. All I know 147 00:07:19,240 --> 00:07:22,800 Speaker 2: is football night in America. Rodney and Tony would go 148 00:07:22,920 --> 00:07:27,200 Speaker 2: in and they would they would have information. They were 149 00:07:27,240 --> 00:07:30,440 Speaker 2: told things, but they were told things that we don't 150 00:07:30,480 --> 00:07:33,680 Speaker 2: want you to tell anybody anything. It was embargoed. You 151 00:07:33,680 --> 00:07:36,400 Speaker 2: don't tweet them out. This was something that you would 152 00:07:36,440 --> 00:07:39,600 Speaker 2: be using if you were calling a game, they would 153 00:07:39,600 --> 00:07:43,760 Speaker 2: give you this information. Hey, third down and long, what's 154 00:07:43,800 --> 00:07:47,320 Speaker 2: your philosophy? You know that jet jet sweep? You know, 155 00:07:47,400 --> 00:07:51,320 Speaker 2: explain what your philosophy is with that. Hey, hey, this player, 156 00:07:51,480 --> 00:07:54,040 Speaker 2: why are you only using him this much? Who's the 157 00:07:54,080 --> 00:07:57,000 Speaker 2: guy who's really surprising you on? Like I mean, there's 158 00:07:57,080 --> 00:07:59,800 Speaker 2: all these questions that you would ask, But then what 159 00:08:00,160 --> 00:08:04,080 Speaker 2: you say, You've put a team in a delicate predicament. 160 00:08:04,400 --> 00:08:07,000 Speaker 2: But also fox in doing the game because Tom has 161 00:08:07,040 --> 00:08:10,280 Speaker 2: to get this information. Now. Granted, he's smart enough to 162 00:08:10,320 --> 00:08:13,800 Speaker 2: know certain things, but I can only tell you from 163 00:08:13,840 --> 00:08:16,640 Speaker 2: what guys that I work with would tell you or 164 00:08:16,680 --> 00:08:20,240 Speaker 2: tell me when they got back from these meetings. The 165 00:08:20,280 --> 00:08:24,200 Speaker 2: coaches love to tell you something, Hey, watch for this, 166 00:08:24,600 --> 00:08:27,600 Speaker 2: and you were embargoed. You couldn't use it. 167 00:08:27,960 --> 00:08:28,200 Speaker 9: You know. 168 00:08:28,280 --> 00:08:31,840 Speaker 2: It was one of those unspoken hey, I'll tell you stuff, 169 00:08:32,080 --> 00:08:34,680 Speaker 2: but only use it during the game because you don't 170 00:08:34,679 --> 00:08:37,080 Speaker 2: want the opponent to go, oh, did you see what 171 00:08:37,240 --> 00:08:40,400 Speaker 2: such and such tweeted out or just told you know 172 00:08:40,520 --> 00:08:45,160 Speaker 2: whoever you know you got. They give you information, They 173 00:08:45,240 --> 00:08:50,200 Speaker 2: love to talk. They love to talk to each other's language. Hey, 174 00:08:50,240 --> 00:08:52,560 Speaker 2: when they do that too, safety and then bothera da 175 00:08:52,640 --> 00:08:55,600 Speaker 2: d about it. And then you know, Jimmy Lipper goes 176 00:08:55,640 --> 00:08:59,240 Speaker 2: banana white, you know, scooty scooty, and then you're like, 177 00:09:00,679 --> 00:09:02,760 Speaker 2: that's a tough play stop though you have banana y 178 00:09:02,800 --> 00:09:07,000 Speaker 2: scooty scooting. Yeah on one, sure thing, yeah pulling. 179 00:09:07,080 --> 00:09:08,679 Speaker 8: But you'll hear this a lot and not even know 180 00:09:08,800 --> 00:09:10,959 Speaker 8: you're hearing it, especially with someone like Kirk kirk Street 181 00:09:11,000 --> 00:09:13,600 Speaker 8: during college games. I talked to Brenton Venables the other day. 182 00:09:13,600 --> 00:09:16,880 Speaker 8: When you hear him mentioning assistant coaches and coordinators and saying, 183 00:09:17,040 --> 00:09:20,240 Speaker 8: they're really looking to this this that's Kirk's pregame prep 184 00:09:20,280 --> 00:09:22,319 Speaker 8: and all these guys do this. But you hear it 185 00:09:22,400 --> 00:09:22,960 Speaker 8: during the game. 186 00:09:23,200 --> 00:09:27,440 Speaker 2: Specifically, let's see Sean in Florida. Hi, Sean, what's on 187 00:09:27,480 --> 00:09:28,120 Speaker 2: your mind today? 188 00:09:29,679 --> 00:09:32,400 Speaker 10: Good morning Dan? First and foremost, so I want to 189 00:09:32,440 --> 00:09:37,640 Speaker 10: give a quick Tampa Bay. Baker Mayfeld and the Boys 190 00:09:37,679 --> 00:09:41,560 Speaker 10: balled out last night. I want to say my six 191 00:09:41,640 --> 00:09:44,200 Speaker 10: held daughters are biggest fans. She's home six today. She 192 00:09:44,720 --> 00:09:47,880 Speaker 10: compelled me to call Dan as the boys Stephen wore her. 193 00:09:47,920 --> 00:09:50,080 Speaker 10: I'm trying my best at the field day last year 194 00:09:50,200 --> 00:09:53,520 Speaker 10: was amazing. A quick question, maybe a poll question. Is 195 00:09:53,559 --> 00:09:56,120 Speaker 10: there a better clutch quarterback than Baker. 196 00:09:55,840 --> 00:09:56,720 Speaker 9: Mayfield right now? 197 00:09:56,800 --> 00:10:00,400 Speaker 10: I think he leads the league and fourth quarter comebacks moment. 198 00:10:01,280 --> 00:10:03,600 Speaker 2: Thank you, Sean. I hope your daughter feels better today. 199 00:10:04,160 --> 00:10:10,040 Speaker 2: I'd still lean with Patrick Mahomes being clutch. I like 200 00:10:10,120 --> 00:10:12,520 Speaker 2: what I see, but I've always liked what I saw 201 00:10:12,559 --> 00:10:15,400 Speaker 2: with Baker Mayfield. You know, he had a chip, he 202 00:10:15,440 --> 00:10:18,800 Speaker 2: has a chip on his shoulder and somehow, some way 203 00:10:19,240 --> 00:10:21,360 Speaker 2: he's going to find a way to beat you. And 204 00:10:21,400 --> 00:10:23,920 Speaker 2: he did that in college. I mean, he got kicked 205 00:10:23,920 --> 00:10:26,640 Speaker 2: to the curb in a couple of places in the NFL, 206 00:10:27,160 --> 00:10:29,920 Speaker 2: and then all of a sudden, who was he going 207 00:10:30,000 --> 00:10:33,240 Speaker 2: at Kyle Trask that was his competition I think with Tampa. 208 00:10:33,280 --> 00:10:35,640 Speaker 3: Does that sound right, yes, Marvin, Yeah. 209 00:10:35,640 --> 00:10:38,000 Speaker 11: I felt bad for Baker going early in his career 210 00:10:38,000 --> 00:10:40,080 Speaker 11: because he kind of had the arch Manning thing where 211 00:10:40,080 --> 00:10:42,960 Speaker 11: he was a rookie and he had all these commercials. 212 00:10:43,400 --> 00:10:44,040 Speaker 3: Yeah. 213 00:10:44,120 --> 00:10:46,559 Speaker 11: Yeah, what ended up happening with I think Odell Beckham 214 00:10:46,600 --> 00:10:48,680 Speaker 11: was the turning point where he tried to play Kate 215 00:10:49,080 --> 00:10:50,000 Speaker 11: and try to you. 216 00:10:49,880 --> 00:10:54,760 Speaker 3: Know, force the football to him. Definitely, he did what 217 00:10:54,840 --> 00:10:57,600 Speaker 3: those progressive commercials. Yeah. 218 00:10:57,640 --> 00:10:59,880 Speaker 8: Paul Baker's third year in the league with Cleveland, he 219 00:11:00,120 --> 00:11:02,720 Speaker 8: was eleven and five as a starter, twenty six touchdowns, 220 00:11:02,920 --> 00:11:05,640 Speaker 8: eight picks. They did not give him the big contract 221 00:11:05,720 --> 00:11:08,280 Speaker 8: after year three. If they would have, they would have 222 00:11:08,280 --> 00:11:10,720 Speaker 8: had him for four or five more years. They pushed 223 00:11:10,720 --> 00:11:12,959 Speaker 8: it back and that next season is when he started 224 00:11:12,960 --> 00:11:16,800 Speaker 8: getting injured. Seventeen touchdowns, thirteen picks, and they didn't have 225 00:11:16,800 --> 00:11:18,400 Speaker 8: to sign him, which they should have. 226 00:11:18,640 --> 00:11:23,319 Speaker 3: PAULI has a quick NFL game. Here we go. 227 00:11:24,000 --> 00:11:27,400 Speaker 8: You mentioned Brandon Aubrey, the star kicker for the Cowboys. 228 00:11:28,400 --> 00:11:31,880 Speaker 8: He only makes He's making under one million dollars this year. 229 00:11:32,080 --> 00:11:34,959 Speaker 8: He's the second lowest paid kicker in the entire NFL. 230 00:11:35,160 --> 00:11:35,680 Speaker 3: This season. 231 00:11:35,720 --> 00:11:36,000 Speaker 12: Wow. 232 00:11:36,559 --> 00:11:41,080 Speaker 2: Who He's a restricted free agent, right, so he can 233 00:11:41,360 --> 00:11:43,360 Speaker 2: go out and get offers and then the Cowboys have 234 00:11:43,440 --> 00:11:44,800 Speaker 2: the final say if they want to match. 235 00:11:44,840 --> 00:11:45,200 Speaker 3: Correct. 236 00:11:45,200 --> 00:11:48,880 Speaker 8: Okay, who is the highest paid kicker in the league 237 00:11:48,960 --> 00:11:52,160 Speaker 8: this season? And how much does that person make this season? 238 00:11:52,880 --> 00:11:56,360 Speaker 3: And you want to take you see on a roster? Yes? 239 00:11:56,480 --> 00:11:59,040 Speaker 8: Oh, yes, oh, I know what you're saying. That's that's 240 00:11:59,120 --> 00:12:02,360 Speaker 8: well done by you. But not justin Tucker. He would 241 00:12:02,360 --> 00:12:04,079 Speaker 8: have been third highest paid this year. 242 00:12:04,160 --> 00:12:09,600 Speaker 11: Okay, Marvin Harrison, Butker at maybe five and a half. 243 00:12:10,080 --> 00:12:11,240 Speaker 8: Anyone else want to guess? 244 00:12:12,320 --> 00:12:14,000 Speaker 3: I was going to say Harrison, Bucker. 245 00:12:13,679 --> 00:12:16,599 Speaker 8: Harrison, Butker is correct. Highest paid kicker? Who wants to 246 00:12:16,640 --> 00:12:18,000 Speaker 8: guess his current salary? 247 00:12:18,040 --> 00:12:19,800 Speaker 3: I think he just signed that in the off season. Yeah, 248 00:12:19,800 --> 00:12:22,920 Speaker 3: I think so, sure he did. Yeah. Uh five point 249 00:12:22,960 --> 00:12:26,559 Speaker 3: two million, six point four million dollars four million? 250 00:12:27,280 --> 00:12:27,679 Speaker 9: Wow. 251 00:12:27,760 --> 00:12:32,680 Speaker 8: Yeah, there are ten different kickers in the league making 252 00:12:32,760 --> 00:12:34,160 Speaker 8: over four million dollars a year. 253 00:12:36,920 --> 00:12:41,800 Speaker 3: Dang, dang, dang, that's the entire game. Oh that's it. 254 00:12:41,880 --> 00:12:45,520 Speaker 2: Oh, well, congratulations, all right, you guys want to play 255 00:12:45,559 --> 00:12:46,120 Speaker 2: dang next? 256 00:12:46,360 --> 00:12:49,000 Speaker 3: Dan Paul says something and we all just go. 257 00:12:49,080 --> 00:12:53,560 Speaker 2: Dang Madden Rawley, I Matt, what's on your mind today? 258 00:12:54,880 --> 00:12:55,120 Speaker 12: Hey? 259 00:12:55,200 --> 00:12:55,679 Speaker 1: How we going? 260 00:12:55,760 --> 00:12:55,920 Speaker 13: Dan? 261 00:12:56,280 --> 00:12:56,640 Speaker 12: Guys? 262 00:12:57,679 --> 00:13:00,480 Speaker 14: So you know, I heard you all discussing earlier about 263 00:13:00,520 --> 00:13:05,199 Speaker 14: the NFL schedule and someone brought up possibly having a 264 00:13:05,240 --> 00:13:08,080 Speaker 14: bye week. My thought would be, we could kind of 265 00:13:08,120 --> 00:13:10,680 Speaker 14: do what every other sport's doing and they could have 266 00:13:10,960 --> 00:13:14,360 Speaker 14: a all star break somewhere around week twelve or thirteen, 267 00:13:14,920 --> 00:13:18,240 Speaker 14: which would fall the week before Thanksgiving for the players. 268 00:13:18,240 --> 00:13:20,400 Speaker 14: That would be great for the owners. Now you've opened 269 00:13:20,480 --> 00:13:23,079 Speaker 14: up not only all day on Thursday and Friday, You've 270 00:13:23,120 --> 00:13:26,280 Speaker 14: also now opened up Wednesday night doubleheader. What would be 271 00:13:26,280 --> 00:13:29,040 Speaker 14: your Monday night football? I feel like that would be huge, 272 00:13:29,640 --> 00:13:32,839 Speaker 14: give them more time to own the entire Thanksgiving time off. 273 00:13:33,960 --> 00:13:36,360 Speaker 14: Just wondering what you think about that and bro hug 274 00:13:36,400 --> 00:13:36,839 Speaker 14: back growth. 275 00:13:38,000 --> 00:13:41,720 Speaker 3: Now, what you're saying is you would have games over Thanksgiving. 276 00:13:42,840 --> 00:13:45,040 Speaker 14: Yes, the week before would be your bye week, So 277 00:13:45,120 --> 00:13:46,000 Speaker 14: that's Sunday. 278 00:13:45,679 --> 00:13:48,080 Speaker 3: Will be everybody's all. They don't want to give up 279 00:13:48,120 --> 00:13:48,600 Speaker 3: a weekend. 280 00:13:48,600 --> 00:13:51,880 Speaker 2: They don't want to give I mean, there's too much 281 00:13:51,960 --> 00:13:54,480 Speaker 2: momentum that you're going to go in no football over 282 00:13:54,520 --> 00:13:55,040 Speaker 2: the weekend. 283 00:13:55,880 --> 00:13:57,000 Speaker 3: I understand what you're saying. 284 00:13:57,000 --> 00:14:00,640 Speaker 2: To own Thanksgiving weekend, they own Thanksgiving weekend anyway. 285 00:14:01,280 --> 00:14:02,720 Speaker 14: How they can own Wednesday as well. 286 00:14:03,920 --> 00:14:07,160 Speaker 2: I think they'd rather own Sunday than the following Wednesday. 287 00:14:07,200 --> 00:14:08,200 Speaker 3: But thank you man. 288 00:14:08,280 --> 00:14:10,480 Speaker 8: Yes, Paul, I got to tell you, I didn't really 289 00:14:10,600 --> 00:14:13,000 Speaker 8: enjoy the Monday night football doubleheader, and I don't think 290 00:14:13,040 --> 00:14:16,200 Speaker 8: I enjoy them. I'm too conditioned. I think we're too 291 00:14:16,200 --> 00:14:19,400 Speaker 8: conditioned for that eight o'clock Eastern and whatever times on 292 00:14:19,480 --> 00:14:22,160 Speaker 8: your end Monday night football. It hits you too early 293 00:14:22,240 --> 00:14:24,120 Speaker 8: on the front end and hits you too late on 294 00:14:24,160 --> 00:14:27,440 Speaker 8: the back end, so you're really forced to watch parts 295 00:14:27,440 --> 00:14:28,200 Speaker 8: of both games. 296 00:14:28,680 --> 00:14:31,000 Speaker 3: They don't care about us, right, but. 297 00:14:32,480 --> 00:14:34,880 Speaker 2: There's three more of these on Monday nights. Then you 298 00:14:34,920 --> 00:14:37,680 Speaker 2: have a Saturday night one at the end of the season. 299 00:14:38,600 --> 00:14:39,040 Speaker 3: They don't. 300 00:14:39,080 --> 00:14:42,040 Speaker 2: They're like, we want to playcate both time zones East Coast, 301 00:14:42,040 --> 00:14:45,920 Speaker 2: West Coast. That's all they care about. Larry and Michigan. 302 00:14:46,040 --> 00:14:48,440 Speaker 12: Hi, Larry, thanks for the call. 303 00:14:48,520 --> 00:14:48,680 Speaker 9: Dan. 304 00:14:49,240 --> 00:14:53,080 Speaker 12: About three moments from the Lions that just stood out. First, 305 00:14:53,280 --> 00:14:57,040 Speaker 12: I'm on ra beautiful game, but the first or second 306 00:14:57,160 --> 00:15:01,800 Speaker 12: he did the fake hamstring intry as a celebration. I'm 307 00:15:01,800 --> 00:15:03,960 Speaker 12: too old for that crap. I was like, we went 308 00:15:04,000 --> 00:15:07,000 Speaker 12: through ashing, no, no, come on, man. The second thing 309 00:15:07,440 --> 00:15:11,080 Speaker 12: was Teslaw or Teslaw, the rookie that they drafted this year. 310 00:15:11,520 --> 00:15:15,120 Speaker 12: He's got two catches. The first catch incredible one handed 311 00:15:15,200 --> 00:15:18,160 Speaker 12: touchdown catch in the first game, and then the second 312 00:15:18,160 --> 00:15:22,480 Speaker 12: game another just gets one catch, another incredible one handed 313 00:15:22,520 --> 00:15:24,880 Speaker 12: get catch at the end of the first half, which 314 00:15:24,960 --> 00:15:27,680 Speaker 12: leads me to my third point, which was when Ben 315 00:15:28,160 --> 00:15:31,320 Speaker 12: Johnson thought that they got away without giving the Lions 316 00:15:31,320 --> 00:15:33,040 Speaker 12: a score. It's like, come on, gods, let's get out 317 00:15:33,080 --> 00:15:35,200 Speaker 12: of here. And they're running off the field and then 318 00:15:35,440 --> 00:15:38,360 Speaker 12: you see the Lions players called come back, boys, come back, 319 00:15:38,640 --> 00:15:40,680 Speaker 12: and then we got our touchdown there and topped them 320 00:15:40,720 --> 00:15:42,880 Speaker 12: with fifty two. That was sweet. 321 00:15:43,320 --> 00:15:47,640 Speaker 2: Larry, Just don't do that fake injury stuff because Larry's 322 00:15:47,640 --> 00:15:48,800 Speaker 2: too old for that junk. 323 00:15:49,600 --> 00:15:51,080 Speaker 3: Don't you do that. Yeah, Paul the. 324 00:15:51,000 --> 00:15:53,840 Speaker 8: Wide receiver's referring to for the Lions as Isaac Tesla. 325 00:15:54,040 --> 00:15:56,720 Speaker 8: He played at Arkansas a little bit and he's had 326 00:15:56,800 --> 00:15:58,960 Speaker 8: two catches on the season. They're both one handers. 327 00:15:59,440 --> 00:16:00,320 Speaker 3: Let's take break. 328 00:16:01,320 --> 00:16:04,360 Speaker 2: Gary Myers wrote the book on Brady Versus Belichick. It's 329 00:16:04,360 --> 00:16:06,200 Speaker 2: a new book out. We'll talk to him about that 330 00:16:06,240 --> 00:16:10,400 Speaker 2: relationship and get his thoughts on some other NFL things 331 00:16:10,440 --> 00:16:11,240 Speaker 2: as well well. 332 00:16:11,240 --> 00:16:12,920 Speaker 3: Take a break back after this. 333 00:16:13,720 --> 00:16:15,840 Speaker 1: Be sure to catch the live edition of The Dan 334 00:16:15,960 --> 00:16:19,520 Speaker 1: Patrick Show weekdays at nine am Eastern six am Pacific 335 00:16:19,800 --> 00:16:22,800 Speaker 1: on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio app. 336 00:16:23,120 --> 00:16:28,400 Speaker 7: Hey it's me Rob Parker. 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He says, you can't officiate it. And I 347 00:17:04,760 --> 00:17:08,320 Speaker 2: don't know if saying that maybe opens the door to 348 00:17:08,320 --> 00:17:10,919 Speaker 2: get rid of the tush push, because they keep waiting 349 00:17:10,920 --> 00:17:14,399 Speaker 2: for injury data and they don't have that data. And 350 00:17:14,480 --> 00:17:15,800 Speaker 2: I don't know if you can get rid of a 351 00:17:15,840 --> 00:17:18,040 Speaker 2: rule by saying, hey, somebody's really going to get hurt. 352 00:17:18,040 --> 00:17:18,480 Speaker 3: One day. 353 00:17:19,359 --> 00:17:22,040 Speaker 2: That's the sport. Somebody's really going to get hurt one day. 354 00:17:22,080 --> 00:17:24,639 Speaker 2: We usually wait until somebody does. But that might be 355 00:17:24,800 --> 00:17:28,840 Speaker 2: the opening where Dean Blandino says, or these officials say, 356 00:17:29,359 --> 00:17:33,040 Speaker 2: we can't call this. It would help if they called 357 00:17:33,080 --> 00:17:37,440 Speaker 2: maybe the Eagles guards jumping off sides a little bit. 358 00:17:37,840 --> 00:17:40,000 Speaker 2: But then there's the neutral zone and how you spot 359 00:17:40,040 --> 00:17:44,520 Speaker 2: the football kind of a mess. Gary Myers, New York 360 00:17:44,520 --> 00:17:47,800 Speaker 2: Times best selling author. He wrote Brady Versus Manning, the 361 00:17:47,880 --> 00:17:51,000 Speaker 2: untold story of the rivalry that transformed the NFL, and 362 00:17:51,200 --> 00:17:56,080 Speaker 2: his new book released today, Brady Versus Belichick, The Dynasty Debate. 363 00:17:56,560 --> 00:17:59,359 Speaker 2: And he's been covering the NFL for over forty years. Gary, 364 00:17:59,359 --> 00:18:01,800 Speaker 2: good to see you again. Let me start with Tom 365 00:18:01,840 --> 00:18:05,280 Speaker 2: Brady in the booth last night. You as a long 366 00:18:05,400 --> 00:18:10,080 Speaker 2: time journalist, scribe any problems conflict of interest with Brady 367 00:18:10,320 --> 00:18:11,920 Speaker 2: in the coaches booth last night? 368 00:18:12,640 --> 00:18:15,119 Speaker 15: Oh? How can we think it's a conflict of interest 369 00:18:15,119 --> 00:18:18,560 Speaker 15: Because he's working on a network that covers the Raiders, 370 00:18:18,560 --> 00:18:21,240 Speaker 15: the Bears, the Cowboys, whatever, and then he's sitting in 371 00:18:21,280 --> 00:18:24,960 Speaker 15: the booth. This is just a horrible, horrible look for 372 00:18:25,040 --> 00:18:28,639 Speaker 15: the NFL, and they need to do something about it. 373 00:18:28,720 --> 00:18:30,679 Speaker 15: I mean, they approved him as an owner knowing he 374 00:18:30,720 --> 00:18:33,960 Speaker 15: was working for Fox, so and they scaled back to 375 00:18:34,080 --> 00:18:38,960 Speaker 15: restrictions this year. But Tom should have known better than 376 00:18:39,040 --> 00:18:41,359 Speaker 15: to be so public last night, to be sitting in 377 00:18:41,400 --> 00:18:43,960 Speaker 15: the booth with us, the headphones on, He's talking to 378 00:18:44,000 --> 00:18:47,160 Speaker 15: Chip Kelly two three times a week, you know, okay, fine, 379 00:18:47,560 --> 00:18:50,560 Speaker 15: But to be on national TV looking like you're calling 380 00:18:50,600 --> 00:18:53,960 Speaker 15: in plays even though I'm sure he wasn't. What a 381 00:18:54,040 --> 00:18:57,520 Speaker 15: horrible conflict of interest. And it's just such a bad 382 00:18:57,560 --> 00:18:58,840 Speaker 15: look for the NFL. 383 00:19:00,080 --> 00:19:04,719 Speaker 2: You know, knowing Brady doing Brady versus Manning, Brady versus Belichick. 384 00:19:05,280 --> 00:19:10,080 Speaker 2: Tom's extremely competitive. Tom's not there for a ceremonial. I 385 00:19:10,200 --> 00:19:13,399 Speaker 2: own part of the team. Tom would love nothing better 386 00:19:13,440 --> 00:19:16,199 Speaker 2: than to be on that podium hosting a Lombardi Trophy 387 00:19:16,200 --> 00:19:16,840 Speaker 2: as an owner. 388 00:19:18,080 --> 00:19:20,600 Speaker 15: There's no question. And just think of this, and I 389 00:19:20,640 --> 00:19:23,159 Speaker 15: know you've already discussed this, But so Tom's got the 390 00:19:23,160 --> 00:19:25,800 Speaker 15: Bears and the Cowboys this week, and then in two 391 00:19:25,800 --> 00:19:28,600 Speaker 15: weeks the Raiders are playing the Bears. So you don't 392 00:19:28,600 --> 00:19:32,760 Speaker 15: think the information he gathers covering the Bears. And I 393 00:19:32,800 --> 00:19:35,080 Speaker 15: know they don't let him in the facility anymore. Oh, 394 00:19:35,119 --> 00:19:38,040 Speaker 15: they'll let him in the facility still. But he's taking 395 00:19:38,080 --> 00:19:41,040 Speaker 15: part in the production meetings virtually, so he's able to 396 00:19:41,080 --> 00:19:43,600 Speaker 15: ask questions. And you know he's a smart guy. He's 397 00:19:43,600 --> 00:19:44,760 Speaker 15: asking good questions. 398 00:19:45,240 --> 00:19:45,400 Speaker 12: Now. 399 00:19:45,440 --> 00:19:47,320 Speaker 15: You hope the coaches and the players are smart enough 400 00:19:47,400 --> 00:19:51,120 Speaker 15: not to give him anything too inside. But if anybody doesn't, 401 00:19:51,119 --> 00:19:54,760 Speaker 15: think he's running back to Pete, Carolyn and Chip Kelly 402 00:19:54,800 --> 00:19:56,920 Speaker 15: or who else and telling him what he found out. 403 00:19:57,359 --> 00:19:59,200 Speaker 15: I mean, he's an honorable guy and I like him 404 00:19:59,200 --> 00:20:02,320 Speaker 15: a lot, but we can't give him too much credit 405 00:20:02,359 --> 00:20:05,240 Speaker 15: here for keeping things to himself. 406 00:20:05,800 --> 00:20:10,040 Speaker 2: The book is Brady Versus Belichick, the dynasty debate. What 407 00:20:10,280 --> 00:20:13,640 Speaker 2: led you to your conclusion of who has or who 408 00:20:13,840 --> 00:20:15,840 Speaker 2: was more important in that dynasty? 409 00:20:16,560 --> 00:20:19,680 Speaker 15: Well, I think, first of all, I don't take into 410 00:20:19,760 --> 00:20:23,000 Speaker 15: consideration anything that happened after Brady left, So I don't 411 00:20:23,040 --> 00:20:26,320 Speaker 15: count the Tampa Super Bowl and Belichick struggling. I don't 412 00:20:26,359 --> 00:20:29,400 Speaker 15: count Belichick struggling before Brady took over in New England 413 00:20:29,760 --> 00:20:33,760 Speaker 15: because to me, it's irrelevant. The important part of this 414 00:20:33,800 --> 00:20:37,360 Speaker 15: debate is who gets the credit for what they accomplished together, 415 00:20:38,160 --> 00:20:41,560 Speaker 15: And I give a lot of credit to Belichick one 416 00:20:41,640 --> 00:20:44,399 Speaker 15: for drafting Brady even though it was only the sixth round. 417 00:20:44,520 --> 00:20:46,240 Speaker 15: If he knew he's gonna be great, Danny would have 418 00:20:46,280 --> 00:20:49,760 Speaker 15: taken him in the first round. But that first Super 419 00:20:49,760 --> 00:20:52,600 Speaker 15: Bowl was you know, until Brady's last drive on the 420 00:20:52,600 --> 00:20:55,960 Speaker 15: winning field goal. That season and that Super Bowl was 421 00:20:55,960 --> 00:20:59,320 Speaker 15: all Belichick, both with defense and running the ball. And 422 00:20:59,359 --> 00:21:02,000 Speaker 15: then as you know they're going they beat the Panthers 423 00:21:02,040 --> 00:21:04,840 Speaker 15: in a really high scoring game. I think that was 424 00:21:04,880 --> 00:21:07,480 Speaker 15: like a fifty to fifty. And then they beat the 425 00:21:07,520 --> 00:21:10,440 Speaker 15: Eagles and that was more of a defensive game. It 426 00:21:10,480 --> 00:21:13,480 Speaker 15: wasn't really high scoring. So I think the early part 427 00:21:13,480 --> 00:21:15,720 Speaker 15: of the dynasty was really Belichick. And I think the 428 00:21:15,800 --> 00:21:18,720 Speaker 15: turning point of it was in the seventh season, when 429 00:21:18,760 --> 00:21:22,080 Speaker 15: Tom throws fifty touchdowns, they go sixteen and zero, come 430 00:21:22,160 --> 00:21:25,679 Speaker 15: within some Velkrol and David Tyree's helmets from winning that 431 00:21:25,840 --> 00:21:28,680 Speaker 15: Super Bowl and being remembered as the greatest singles team, 432 00:21:29,640 --> 00:21:32,560 Speaker 15: greatest single season team in NFL history. I think that's 433 00:21:32,560 --> 00:21:35,560 Speaker 15: when we realized, you know, not only is Brady better 434 00:21:35,560 --> 00:21:39,640 Speaker 15: than Peyton Manning, but he's closing it on Joe Montana. 435 00:21:39,760 --> 00:21:41,359 Speaker 15: At that point, I still wouldn't have said he was 436 00:21:41,359 --> 00:21:43,960 Speaker 15: better than Joe when he won the fourth Super Bowl, 437 00:21:44,040 --> 00:21:46,320 Speaker 15: and they were ten years apart between the third and fourth. 438 00:21:46,640 --> 00:21:49,920 Speaker 15: That's when I think the second half of the dynasty. 439 00:21:50,720 --> 00:21:55,359 Speaker 15: I think was almost entirely Brady, but because Belichick was 440 00:21:55,359 --> 00:21:58,960 Speaker 15: so influential in the first half, it doesn't even it out, 441 00:21:59,400 --> 00:22:01,000 Speaker 15: but it makes the gap a little less. 442 00:22:01,160 --> 00:22:03,720 Speaker 2: But people players will have told me they wanted to 443 00:22:03,720 --> 00:22:07,600 Speaker 2: play with Brady. They didn't want to go play for Belichick, 444 00:22:07,880 --> 00:22:10,480 Speaker 2: but they wanted to play with Brady because Brady was 445 00:22:10,520 --> 00:22:12,480 Speaker 2: going to take him to the playoffs. You get extra 446 00:22:12,480 --> 00:22:15,240 Speaker 2: paychecks and you may win a Super Bowl. I three 447 00:22:15,240 --> 00:22:17,440 Speaker 2: players who played for them said that they went there 448 00:22:17,480 --> 00:22:20,359 Speaker 2: because Tom was the quarterback there. I don't know how 449 00:22:20,440 --> 00:22:24,040 Speaker 2: much that tips the scales here, but they were going 450 00:22:24,119 --> 00:22:26,680 Speaker 2: because they knew they had the best quarterback in the game. 451 00:22:27,440 --> 00:22:29,280 Speaker 15: Well, I think that obviously had a lot to do 452 00:22:29,359 --> 00:22:32,520 Speaker 15: with it. But one of the players told me that 453 00:22:32,600 --> 00:22:36,440 Speaker 15: the reason that they put up with all Belichick's nonsense 454 00:22:37,040 --> 00:22:39,520 Speaker 15: is because he knew They knew he knew how to win. 455 00:22:39,680 --> 00:22:40,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, and he's. 456 00:22:40,160 --> 00:22:43,639 Speaker 15: Winning super Bowls and ultimately that's all players really care 457 00:22:43,680 --> 00:22:46,359 Speaker 15: about in the end. Well, two things they care about, 458 00:22:46,600 --> 00:22:49,760 Speaker 15: getting paid and winning Super Bowls. And if you win 459 00:22:49,800 --> 00:22:53,040 Speaker 15: Super Bowls, you get get paid, not necessarily by the Patriots, 460 00:22:53,080 --> 00:22:55,600 Speaker 15: but become more attractive as a free agent because you know, 461 00:22:55,640 --> 00:22:58,200 Speaker 15: the Super Bowl champions always get picked apart in free agency. 462 00:22:58,320 --> 00:23:01,560 Speaker 15: So Belichick was good of their bank accounts, even though 463 00:23:01,600 --> 00:23:03,480 Speaker 15: if they didn't necessarily like to play for him. 464 00:23:04,800 --> 00:23:07,520 Speaker 2: You also look at the relationship between Brady and Joe 465 00:23:07,640 --> 00:23:14,119 Speaker 2: Montana and I didn't know that it was fractured, ordn't 466 00:23:14,440 --> 00:23:16,640 Speaker 2: I'll put it. Let you put it into your words 467 00:23:16,800 --> 00:23:20,399 Speaker 2: of where is that or where was that relationship? Because 468 00:23:20,440 --> 00:23:23,439 Speaker 2: I think you allude to it. It's better now, but 469 00:23:23,800 --> 00:23:25,440 Speaker 2: there was a time when it wasn't good. 470 00:23:26,000 --> 00:23:28,600 Speaker 15: Yeah, I mean what happened. You know, Joe still lives 471 00:23:28,600 --> 00:23:31,240 Speaker 15: in the Bay Area. Tom is from San Mateo, which 472 00:23:31,280 --> 00:23:34,560 Speaker 15: isn't far from where Joe lives. Joe and then Steve 473 00:23:34,600 --> 00:23:37,879 Speaker 15: Young with Tom's heroes growing up. They had a mutual 474 00:23:37,960 --> 00:23:40,439 Speaker 15: friend who worked for the Golden State Warriors, who called 475 00:23:42,160 --> 00:23:44,720 Speaker 15: Montana after Tom on his first Super Bowl and said, hey, 476 00:23:45,160 --> 00:23:48,800 Speaker 15: you know Tom loves you. Can you have lunch with him? 477 00:23:48,880 --> 00:23:51,920 Speaker 15: So they had lunch at Joe's house and Joe thought 478 00:23:51,960 --> 00:23:54,520 Speaker 15: this would be a nice situation. He wasn't looking to 479 00:23:54,560 --> 00:23:57,200 Speaker 15: be Tom's mentor, but he thought it was gonna be 480 00:23:57,240 --> 00:23:59,800 Speaker 15: a nice relationship where, you know, he knew that Tom 481 00:24:00,200 --> 00:24:02,560 Speaker 15: up to him. Well. Joe told me that in the 482 00:24:02,560 --> 00:24:05,200 Speaker 15: succeeding year is the only time he heard from Brady 483 00:24:05,840 --> 00:24:09,080 Speaker 15: was when Tom broke one of Joe's records. He said, ah, 484 00:24:09,280 --> 00:24:12,679 Speaker 15: got another one of your records, And Joe said he 485 00:24:12,680 --> 00:24:15,399 Speaker 15: could have dealt with that if at the same time, 486 00:24:16,240 --> 00:24:18,240 Speaker 15: Tom was texting him every now and then say Hey, Joe, 487 00:24:18,280 --> 00:24:20,520 Speaker 15: how you doing, I'm gonna be in town, Let's get together, 488 00:24:20,880 --> 00:24:25,320 Speaker 15: that kind of stuff. But that didn't happen. And Joe, 489 00:24:25,640 --> 00:24:27,439 Speaker 15: I don't know how well you know Joe Dan, but 490 00:24:27,560 --> 00:24:31,400 Speaker 15: he's a great guy. He's really humble for all those accomplishments, 491 00:24:31,600 --> 00:24:34,960 Speaker 15: He's really a humble guy. He never cared about stats. 492 00:24:34,960 --> 00:24:39,439 Speaker 15: He just cared about winning and was curious why Brady 493 00:24:39,480 --> 00:24:44,040 Speaker 15: was so hung up on breaking his records. They I 494 00:24:44,080 --> 00:24:46,840 Speaker 15: think they smoothed things out a little bit at some 495 00:24:47,000 --> 00:24:50,359 Speaker 15: of these, you know, one hundred year anniversary celebrations that 496 00:24:50,440 --> 00:24:55,000 Speaker 15: the NFL had, and when they had all the MVPs together, 497 00:24:55,040 --> 00:24:58,480 Speaker 15: they talked a little bit. But you know, I think 498 00:24:58,560 --> 00:25:02,119 Speaker 15: Joe's the kind of guy who hold somewhat of a grudge, 499 00:25:02,680 --> 00:25:04,560 Speaker 15: and I don't think I'll ever forget that he felt 500 00:25:05,280 --> 00:25:09,160 Speaker 15: well disrespected by Tom, which which really surprised me because 501 00:25:09,200 --> 00:25:10,720 Speaker 15: I don't look at Tom as that kind of guy. 502 00:25:11,359 --> 00:25:14,320 Speaker 15: But you know, everybody has their own experience with him, 503 00:25:14,320 --> 00:25:16,040 Speaker 15: and that's what was Joe's experience. 504 00:25:16,440 --> 00:25:19,080 Speaker 2: Gary Myers, New York Times best selling author the book 505 00:25:19,119 --> 00:25:24,280 Speaker 2: released today, Brady versus Belichick, The Dynasty Debate. I interviewed 506 00:25:24,320 --> 00:25:27,920 Speaker 2: Tom before the Super Bowl against the Eagles, and at 507 00:25:27,920 --> 00:25:30,920 Speaker 2: one point I said, do you think you and Belichick 508 00:25:30,960 --> 00:25:32,760 Speaker 2: will ever sit down and kind of open up the 509 00:25:32,800 --> 00:25:34,400 Speaker 2: scrap book and, you know. 510 00:25:34,400 --> 00:25:35,400 Speaker 3: Walk down memory lane. 511 00:25:35,640 --> 00:25:41,440 Speaker 2: He goes, no, because that's that's not our relationship, right. 512 00:25:43,119 --> 00:25:47,639 Speaker 2: Why it's Bill. Bill's not capable of having that. You know, 513 00:25:48,480 --> 00:25:52,080 Speaker 2: let's have more than a coach player relationship. 514 00:25:53,320 --> 00:25:55,919 Speaker 15: I think that he's capable of having it when the 515 00:25:55,960 --> 00:25:59,840 Speaker 15: player is no longer playing from him and retires, because 516 00:26:00,080 --> 00:26:02,480 Speaker 15: he has a really good relationship with guys like Carl 517 00:26:02,520 --> 00:26:07,200 Speaker 15: Banks and Lawrence Taylor and Phil Simms. It wasn't that Now. 518 00:26:07,280 --> 00:26:12,480 Speaker 15: He was never coached Simms directly, but he wasn't. He 519 00:26:12,520 --> 00:26:15,520 Speaker 15: doesn't allow himself to get close to players, because he knows, 520 00:26:15,960 --> 00:26:18,520 Speaker 15: for the most part, unless the guy retires on his own, 521 00:26:19,119 --> 00:26:21,800 Speaker 15: it's going to end poorly. So he doesn't want to 522 00:26:21,840 --> 00:26:24,200 Speaker 15: develop that real close personal relationship. 523 00:26:24,400 --> 00:26:24,520 Speaker 9: Now. 524 00:26:24,600 --> 00:26:27,920 Speaker 15: I think his relationship with Brady is better today than 525 00:26:27,960 --> 00:26:31,520 Speaker 15: it ever has been, even during his playing career over 526 00:26:31,560 --> 00:26:35,040 Speaker 15: the five years or so that they were separated. But 527 00:26:35,080 --> 00:26:38,320 Speaker 15: I think today they've come to appreciate what they meant 528 00:26:38,320 --> 00:26:40,119 Speaker 15: to each other. But I know what I did to 529 00:26:40,160 --> 00:26:42,160 Speaker 15: Brady Manning book. I said to Tom. It was kind 530 00:26:42,160 --> 00:26:44,840 Speaker 15: of the same question you asked him. I said, you're 531 00:26:44,840 --> 00:26:47,320 Speaker 15: sitting there on Tuesday night at ten o'clock. You're going 532 00:26:47,320 --> 00:26:49,440 Speaker 15: over the game plan, which they did every Tuesday night. 533 00:26:49,680 --> 00:26:53,040 Speaker 15: I said, they havena say hey, we've been great for 534 00:26:53,119 --> 00:26:55,320 Speaker 15: each other, and that point they had won three Super Bowls. 535 00:26:55,760 --> 00:26:57,639 Speaker 15: You know, do you ever reminisce, well, you know, this 536 00:26:57,720 --> 00:26:59,879 Speaker 15: is amazing what we're doing and it's not over yet. 537 00:27:00,080 --> 00:27:01,960 Speaker 15: Would you ever say, hey, there's not much to do 538 00:27:02,000 --> 00:27:03,639 Speaker 15: in Foxborough, but I know a good place up the 539 00:27:03,720 --> 00:27:06,120 Speaker 15: road and get a pizza and share a pitcher of beard. 540 00:27:06,200 --> 00:27:06,600 Speaker 12: You ever do? 541 00:27:06,680 --> 00:27:11,720 Speaker 15: That? Never came up in conversation, And now I don't 542 00:27:11,720 --> 00:27:14,280 Speaker 15: know what's happened in the last couple of years since 543 00:27:14,320 --> 00:27:16,600 Speaker 15: they're both away from New England. But I know from 544 00:27:16,640 --> 00:27:19,679 Speaker 15: the time while Brady was still in New England and 545 00:27:19,680 --> 00:27:22,440 Speaker 15: Tom was in Tampa and then left Tampa, that that 546 00:27:22,520 --> 00:27:26,800 Speaker 15: never occurred. And I think Tom's father is much more 547 00:27:26,800 --> 00:27:29,920 Speaker 15: outspoken than Tom is himself about what the relationship is 548 00:27:29,960 --> 00:27:32,760 Speaker 15: and how he felt, you know, his son was disrespected 549 00:27:32,800 --> 00:27:35,040 Speaker 15: all those years in New England by Belichick. 550 00:27:35,920 --> 00:27:37,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's just a weird dynamic. 551 00:27:37,800 --> 00:27:40,399 Speaker 2: But I always whenever anybody asked me about it, I 552 00:27:40,480 --> 00:27:42,920 Speaker 2: always sided with Brady because he had to go out 553 00:27:42,960 --> 00:27:46,920 Speaker 2: and do it. And Bill was a defensive minded head coach, 554 00:27:47,000 --> 00:27:50,080 Speaker 2: so how much he was involved in the offense, I 555 00:27:50,119 --> 00:27:52,399 Speaker 2: mean that was Tom and he did you know, he 556 00:27:52,440 --> 00:27:55,320 Speaker 2: did have you know, offensive coordinators there to help him. 557 00:27:55,359 --> 00:27:59,720 Speaker 2: But I still leaned towards Tom. That Bill can tell 558 00:27:59,760 --> 00:28:02,159 Speaker 2: you or his assistants can tell you. Tom had to 559 00:28:02,160 --> 00:28:05,920 Speaker 2: go out and do it. And whether anybody's keeping score it. 560 00:28:06,359 --> 00:28:09,280 Speaker 2: It's not like Lebron and Jordan, but I think there 561 00:28:09,359 --> 00:28:12,600 Speaker 2: is still the who is more important the coach or 562 00:28:12,640 --> 00:28:14,359 Speaker 2: the star player in any sport. 563 00:28:14,880 --> 00:28:16,919 Speaker 15: No, I agree with you, but as far as the 564 00:28:17,000 --> 00:28:21,080 Speaker 15: offensive input that Belichick had. Remember in two thousand and one, 565 00:28:21,119 --> 00:28:23,639 Speaker 15: Dick Raybne, who is a Patriots quarterback coach, and he 566 00:28:23,680 --> 00:28:27,359 Speaker 15: was the one who was most responsible for Belichick drafting Brady. 567 00:28:27,400 --> 00:28:30,040 Speaker 15: He wanted to take him in the third or fourth round. Well, 568 00:28:30,119 --> 00:28:33,040 Speaker 15: Dick Raybne passed away right at the beginning of training 569 00:28:33,040 --> 00:28:35,919 Speaker 15: camp in oh one and Belichick did not hire another 570 00:28:37,000 --> 00:28:40,760 Speaker 15: quarterback coach. Charlie Weiss was the offensive coordinator, but rayvind 571 00:28:40,880 --> 00:28:44,840 Speaker 15: is the one who worked most closely with Brady. Belichick 572 00:28:44,920 --> 00:28:48,680 Speaker 15: became the de facto quarterback coach. He sat in on 573 00:28:48,760 --> 00:28:51,760 Speaker 15: a lot of meetings with Brady and Weiss. He had 574 00:28:51,800 --> 00:28:54,520 Speaker 15: a lot of meetings by himself with Brady, and what 575 00:28:54,560 --> 00:28:57,360 Speaker 15: he would do would give Brady the perspective of the 576 00:28:57,400 --> 00:29:00,520 Speaker 15: defensive coach and how to attack a defense. He was 577 00:29:00,560 --> 00:29:05,280 Speaker 15: really instrumental in Brady's development as a quarterback because of 578 00:29:05,360 --> 00:29:10,240 Speaker 15: Belichick's knowledge about defense. And Belichick did become like Parcels 579 00:29:10,240 --> 00:29:14,479 Speaker 15: before him. They did become good offensive coaches. Now they 580 00:29:14,480 --> 00:29:18,120 Speaker 15: were still known as being brilliant defensive coaches, but they 581 00:29:18,520 --> 00:29:22,080 Speaker 15: became all around coaches. So I think that Belichick's influence 582 00:29:22,160 --> 00:29:26,280 Speaker 15: on Brady early on was much greater than anybody remembers. 583 00:29:26,320 --> 00:29:27,680 Speaker 15: And I point that out in the book. 584 00:29:27,800 --> 00:29:31,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's that's a great point. Yeah, before I let 585 00:29:31,720 --> 00:29:34,680 Speaker 2: you go. Yeah, do you think North Carolina is Belichick's 586 00:29:34,720 --> 00:29:35,240 Speaker 2: last stop? 587 00:29:36,760 --> 00:29:36,960 Speaker 12: Yes? 588 00:29:37,040 --> 00:29:38,840 Speaker 15: I don't think he'll get hired in the NFL again. 589 00:29:40,360 --> 00:29:42,880 Speaker 15: I was surprised he didn't get hired in the first 590 00:29:42,920 --> 00:29:45,200 Speaker 15: hiring cycle after he was fired in New England. We 591 00:29:45,280 --> 00:29:47,680 Speaker 15: know it came close in Atlanta, and weather Craft put 592 00:29:47,720 --> 00:29:48,600 Speaker 15: the kabash on that. 593 00:29:49,320 --> 00:29:52,320 Speaker 3: I don't know how would he have done that, Gary, Well. 594 00:29:52,200 --> 00:29:52,480 Speaker 12: He would. 595 00:29:52,480 --> 00:29:54,640 Speaker 15: He would have called Arthur Blank and said, you don't 596 00:29:54,680 --> 00:29:56,880 Speaker 15: want you don't want this. I mean, this is what 597 00:29:56,920 --> 00:30:00,640 Speaker 15: he's going to do to your organization, Dan, that's owners 598 00:30:00,680 --> 00:30:04,880 Speaker 15: were calling Craft about in two thousand for your own 599 00:30:04,920 --> 00:30:09,120 Speaker 15: mental health, don't hire this guy, right, And I wouldn't 600 00:30:09,160 --> 00:30:12,160 Speaker 15: be like, listen, did Craft do that with Blank? That's 601 00:30:12,200 --> 00:30:13,800 Speaker 15: what a lot of people are saying. I don't know 602 00:30:13,840 --> 00:30:14,640 Speaker 15: that personally. 603 00:30:15,800 --> 00:30:15,960 Speaker 9: Now. 604 00:30:16,000 --> 00:30:20,720 Speaker 15: The second time, Belichick wanted into the NFL so badly 605 00:30:21,240 --> 00:30:24,240 Speaker 15: that he called it intermediary with the Jets, who had 606 00:30:24,280 --> 00:30:27,560 Speaker 15: an influence on the hiring process, and he called him 607 00:30:27,560 --> 00:30:30,040 Speaker 15: and said, I'm interested in the Jets job. You think 608 00:30:30,080 --> 00:30:33,480 Speaker 15: she'd rather be a sanitation worker, And I'm not putting 609 00:30:33,480 --> 00:30:36,040 Speaker 15: the sanitation workers down, but we'll go working as a 610 00:30:36,040 --> 00:30:38,280 Speaker 15: cook in a kitchen before you ever want to go 611 00:30:38,320 --> 00:30:41,280 Speaker 15: to the Jets, considering the history, but he said, I 612 00:30:41,320 --> 00:30:44,080 Speaker 15: want that job. And after the guy finished laughing, he said, 613 00:30:44,480 --> 00:30:47,120 Speaker 15: they're not going to hire you. There's nobody who's going 614 00:30:47,160 --> 00:30:49,640 Speaker 15: to hire Belichick. Now, the twenty four year old girlfriend 615 00:30:49,720 --> 00:30:53,040 Speaker 15: that think has something to do. No owner wants a 616 00:30:53,080 --> 00:30:56,120 Speaker 15: part of that. And having to explain that, I think 617 00:30:56,160 --> 00:30:58,640 Speaker 15: Caroline is his last job. Whether he's going to be 618 00:30:58,680 --> 00:31:00,560 Speaker 15: successful there or not, is just it's a question of 619 00:31:00,600 --> 00:31:03,719 Speaker 15: whether he can master the nil and the transfer portal 620 00:31:04,040 --> 00:31:07,040 Speaker 15: and get himself a quarterback. You can't win without a 621 00:31:07,080 --> 00:31:08,320 Speaker 15: quarterback at any level. 622 00:31:08,640 --> 00:31:09,719 Speaker 3: He needs to Tom Brady. 623 00:31:10,680 --> 00:31:13,440 Speaker 15: He does, and maybe he can find somebody in the 624 00:31:13,440 --> 00:31:17,040 Speaker 15: transfer portal and see something in him that nobody sees, 625 00:31:17,520 --> 00:31:20,600 Speaker 15: because he obviously saw a little something in Brady that 626 00:31:20,720 --> 00:31:22,800 Speaker 15: he just invested a six round picking him. 627 00:31:22,840 --> 00:31:24,040 Speaker 1: But I want to before we. 628 00:31:24,160 --> 00:31:27,120 Speaker 15: Say he's a genius for taking him, just remember he 629 00:31:27,200 --> 00:31:30,480 Speaker 15: took six other players in that draft before he drafted Brady, 630 00:31:30,760 --> 00:31:33,000 Speaker 15: including a defensive back. There nobody has ever heard of 631 00:31:33,160 --> 00:31:36,520 Speaker 15: since in the sixth round before he took Brady. So 632 00:31:36,680 --> 00:31:38,320 Speaker 15: if he knew he was going to be anything to 633 00:31:38,360 --> 00:31:40,040 Speaker 15: what he turned, if he even thought he was going 634 00:31:40,080 --> 00:31:41,840 Speaker 15: to be a starter in the league, he would have 635 00:31:41,840 --> 00:31:43,160 Speaker 15: taken him before the sixth round. 636 00:31:43,560 --> 00:31:45,480 Speaker 3: Good luck with the book. Gary, Good to connect with 637 00:31:45,520 --> 00:31:45,960 Speaker 3: you again. 638 00:31:46,360 --> 00:31:47,920 Speaker 15: Yeah, Dan, thanks for having me on. It's great to 639 00:31:47,960 --> 00:31:48,240 Speaker 15: see it. 640 00:31:48,600 --> 00:31:51,040 Speaker 2: Gary Meyer is New York Times best selling author. He 641 00:31:51,080 --> 00:31:54,440 Speaker 2: wrote Brady Versus Manning and the new book is Brady 642 00:31:54,480 --> 00:31:58,960 Speaker 2: Versus Belichick The Dynasty Debate. Garry's been covering the league 643 00:31:59,480 --> 00:32:01,920 Speaker 2: over four years. All right, we'll take a break. Phone 644 00:32:01,960 --> 00:32:04,800 Speaker 2: calls coming up, Ah, seven to seven to three DP show. 645 00:32:04,800 --> 00:32:05,600 Speaker 2: We're back after this. 646 00:32:05,920 --> 00:32:08,800 Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in 647 00:32:08,840 --> 00:32:12,200 Speaker 1: the nation. Catch all of our shows at Foxsports Radio 648 00:32:12,360 --> 00:32:16,440 Speaker 1: dot com and within the iHeartRadio app. Search FSR to 649 00:32:16,560 --> 00:32:20,600 Speaker 1: listen live. Paulie has a football question for the room. 650 00:32:20,840 --> 00:32:23,600 Speaker 8: Okay, the big Tom Brady story about conflict of interest 651 00:32:23,640 --> 00:32:27,000 Speaker 8: and his next game on Fox is Bears Cowboys. 652 00:32:27,000 --> 00:32:29,640 Speaker 3: Correct. I believe so. So later this week. 653 00:32:29,440 --> 00:32:32,000 Speaker 8: The Fox team with Tom Brady would have some type 654 00:32:32,000 --> 00:32:34,880 Speaker 8: of production meeting with both the Cowboys, staff and the 655 00:32:34,920 --> 00:32:37,760 Speaker 8: Bears staff, and then the Bears play the Raiders the 656 00:32:37,840 --> 00:32:41,480 Speaker 8: following week. If the Bears or any team, if the 657 00:32:41,480 --> 00:32:44,040 Speaker 8: Bears coaching staff refused to have a production meeting with 658 00:32:44,080 --> 00:32:46,680 Speaker 8: Tom Brady, how would that go over. 659 00:32:48,160 --> 00:32:49,160 Speaker 3: With people like us? 660 00:32:50,240 --> 00:32:52,280 Speaker 8: Would the Bears be seemed as petty or would be 661 00:32:52,360 --> 00:32:54,640 Speaker 8: like Tom's getting what he deserves or the NFL is 662 00:32:54,640 --> 00:32:55,440 Speaker 8: getting what they deserve. 663 00:32:56,080 --> 00:32:59,000 Speaker 2: I wouldn't blame the Bears if they said, now they 664 00:32:59,040 --> 00:33:02,720 Speaker 2: won't completely out him out. I would just say, upfront, 665 00:33:02,880 --> 00:33:04,640 Speaker 2: you know, Tom, we're going to be very limited in 666 00:33:04,680 --> 00:33:07,120 Speaker 2: what we're going to tell you. But if you said 667 00:33:07,120 --> 00:33:10,720 Speaker 2: they're not going to participate, then all right. I don't 668 00:33:10,720 --> 00:33:13,440 Speaker 2: have any problem with that. I wouldn't want to give 669 00:33:13,480 --> 00:33:16,880 Speaker 2: him in. I'm not going to give him information. I'm sorry, 670 00:33:16,920 --> 00:33:20,200 Speaker 2: I'm not helping your broadcasting career. We have to win 671 00:33:20,320 --> 00:33:23,720 Speaker 2: football games here, and you're the Bears, you're zero and two, 672 00:33:23,840 --> 00:33:25,280 Speaker 2: you got a new coach, and all of a sudden, 673 00:33:25,320 --> 00:33:25,680 Speaker 2: you're going to. 674 00:33:25,720 --> 00:33:28,200 Speaker 3: Go they Tom, come on in. Yeah. See'd be awesome. 675 00:33:28,200 --> 00:33:30,440 Speaker 4: Though, if Kevin Burkhardt had all the information and he 676 00:33:30,520 --> 00:33:32,040 Speaker 4: was the one calling the players, you know, Tom, I 677 00:33:32,040 --> 00:33:33,520 Speaker 4: think what they like to do here on third down 678 00:33:33,680 --> 00:33:36,040 Speaker 4: is a little uh. 679 00:33:36,080 --> 00:33:39,160 Speaker 2: And then he goes to you know, the Raiders to 680 00:33:39,200 --> 00:33:43,360 Speaker 2: help Tom. Yeah, Tom brings in Kevin Burkhard Kevin, come 681 00:33:43,400 --> 00:33:45,360 Speaker 2: on in and download everybody on what you learn from 682 00:33:45,400 --> 00:33:45,720 Speaker 2: the Bears. 683 00:33:45,800 --> 00:33:48,080 Speaker 6: Yes, not only would that not be petty to me 684 00:33:48,120 --> 00:33:50,040 Speaker 6: either of the Bears. I think every other team should 685 00:33:50,040 --> 00:33:52,160 Speaker 6: follow suit the rest of the year until the NFL 686 00:33:52,200 --> 00:33:54,160 Speaker 6: wakes up and figures out that this is in fact 687 00:33:54,200 --> 00:33:57,080 Speaker 6: the conflict of interest in this can't continue endlessly while 688 00:33:57,080 --> 00:33:57,880 Speaker 6: he's a Foxborg game. 689 00:33:57,920 --> 00:33:58,840 Speaker 3: All right, thank you, Tom. 690 00:34:03,600 --> 00:34:06,360 Speaker 2: I'm not sharing information, just not going to do that. 691 00:34:07,920 --> 00:34:15,160 Speaker 2: I mean, we're on the Raiders' schedule. I can't doesn't 692 00:34:15,160 --> 00:34:19,400 Speaker 2: make any sense. But the NFL and the owners Fox, 693 00:34:19,440 --> 00:34:22,640 Speaker 2: they put themselves in this position. You heard Gary Myers, 694 00:34:22,640 --> 00:34:27,239 Speaker 2: who's been around the NFL for forty years, and you 695 00:34:27,280 --> 00:34:29,400 Speaker 2: can tell you can tell where his feelings were. He 696 00:34:29,400 --> 00:34:32,000 Speaker 2: didn't mince words that this is a terrible look. It 697 00:34:32,120 --> 00:34:36,279 Speaker 2: just is whether if anybody has a problem with it publicly, 698 00:34:36,880 --> 00:34:40,680 Speaker 2: it feels like privately they're going to be teams executives 699 00:34:40,680 --> 00:34:41,920 Speaker 2: they are going to have a problem with this. 700 00:34:42,440 --> 00:34:42,640 Speaker 3: Yeah. 701 00:34:42,680 --> 00:34:45,200 Speaker 8: Pull The funny thing though, if the NFL wanted to 702 00:34:45,239 --> 00:34:47,160 Speaker 8: do anything right now, I don't think they can. This 703 00:34:47,280 --> 00:34:49,840 Speaker 8: is an unfixable problem. They can't remove him as an 704 00:34:49,880 --> 00:34:53,919 Speaker 8: owner before next week, and they can't sideline him from Fox. 705 00:34:54,640 --> 00:34:56,960 Speaker 2: H John in North Carolina, Hi, John, what's on your 706 00:34:56,960 --> 00:34:59,239 Speaker 2: mind today? 707 00:34:59,680 --> 00:35:01,480 Speaker 14: You know, I don't really have that much problem with 708 00:35:01,600 --> 00:35:02,880 Speaker 14: Tom being up in the booth. 709 00:35:03,280 --> 00:35:04,920 Speaker 9: I can see Jerry Jones doing that. 710 00:35:05,239 --> 00:35:07,560 Speaker 13: If I see them on the sideline checking the pressure 711 00:35:07,560 --> 00:35:09,319 Speaker 13: of the footballs, then I've got. 712 00:35:09,200 --> 00:35:14,160 Speaker 2: An issue, all right, George and Louisiana. Hi, Georgia. 713 00:35:14,719 --> 00:35:18,239 Speaker 9: First time Carler just retired, got near replacement surgery. And 714 00:35:18,280 --> 00:35:22,960 Speaker 9: I watch you every morning on Peacock. All right. I 715 00:35:22,960 --> 00:35:25,000 Speaker 9: don't know if anybody's seen this the other day, but 716 00:35:25,440 --> 00:35:28,840 Speaker 9: the Clemson Georgia Tech game toward the end of the 717 00:35:28,840 --> 00:35:33,440 Speaker 9: game was a call under review. They want the referee 718 00:35:33,440 --> 00:35:36,759 Speaker 9: put his hadst on. Then they had another camera shot 719 00:35:37,000 --> 00:35:40,040 Speaker 9: to the people in the booth with their microphones on 720 00:35:40,760 --> 00:35:43,799 Speaker 9: talking to the referee, and I'm like, I've never seen 721 00:35:43,800 --> 00:35:46,319 Speaker 9: this before, and like my head's to the TV, like 722 00:35:46,320 --> 00:35:47,360 Speaker 9: what they talking about? 723 00:35:47,920 --> 00:35:48,120 Speaker 12: You know? 724 00:35:48,680 --> 00:35:51,279 Speaker 9: And I was wondering, is this the two things? Is 725 00:35:51,320 --> 00:35:53,920 Speaker 9: this the first time? This is have y'all seen this before, 726 00:35:54,520 --> 00:35:57,840 Speaker 9: and asked Ian Blandino why they don't do this in 727 00:35:57,880 --> 00:36:00,960 Speaker 9: the NFL. I think it would be great TV instead 728 00:36:01,000 --> 00:36:04,360 Speaker 9: of showing a picture of the coaches, the players, the fans. 729 00:36:04,840 --> 00:36:06,560 Speaker 9: I want to hear what they talking about in that No. 730 00:36:06,800 --> 00:36:09,879 Speaker 2: I've been talking about this for years when they had 731 00:36:09,880 --> 00:36:11,960 Speaker 2: the review on the field, I want I want that 732 00:36:12,040 --> 00:36:15,200 Speaker 2: official's microphone on. I want to know what they're seeing. 733 00:36:16,040 --> 00:36:19,000 Speaker 2: I'm sorry, it's got to be transparency here. I want 734 00:36:19,000 --> 00:36:21,000 Speaker 2: to know what you're seeing, what you saw, what you 735 00:36:21,040 --> 00:36:24,520 Speaker 2: didn't see. And if you're going to get help from upstairs, great. 736 00:36:24,800 --> 00:36:26,640 Speaker 2: If the goal is to get the call right, then 737 00:36:26,640 --> 00:36:30,319 Speaker 2: get the call right. If it's hey, we don't want 738 00:36:30,320 --> 00:36:33,200 Speaker 2: to seem like we need help from up above, and 739 00:36:33,760 --> 00:36:35,799 Speaker 2: I think that leads to some problems on the field. 740 00:36:35,880 --> 00:36:39,080 Speaker 8: Yeah, Pony, the ACC Conference is doing this currently this year. 741 00:36:39,480 --> 00:36:42,080 Speaker 8: They're letting you hear what's being discussed in the repaid 742 00:36:42,120 --> 00:36:42,760 Speaker 8: replay booth. 743 00:36:42,840 --> 00:36:46,080 Speaker 3: Yeah. I've been saying it for years. Let us hear. 744 00:36:46,320 --> 00:36:48,839 Speaker 3: I'm fine with it, got nothing to hide. Let us hear. 745 00:36:50,360 --> 00:36:55,440 Speaker 3: Let's see George in Virginia. Hey, George, Dan, how are 746 00:36:55,480 --> 00:36:55,959 Speaker 3: you good. 747 00:36:57,560 --> 00:37:01,200 Speaker 13: I haven't talked to you since the family coaching session 748 00:37:01,600 --> 00:37:04,719 Speaker 13: I had for you guys a while back. Congratulations on 749 00:37:04,800 --> 00:37:08,680 Speaker 13: the w Thank you. I wanted to just chat about 750 00:37:08,719 --> 00:37:13,600 Speaker 13: the Belichick pretty thing. So where does Josh McDaniels fit 751 00:37:13,640 --> 00:37:16,319 Speaker 13: into all this? It seems to me like, obviously we know, 752 00:37:16,600 --> 00:37:20,160 Speaker 13: not successful as a head coach, but he seems like 753 00:37:20,239 --> 00:37:23,320 Speaker 13: he was a key part of all of those rings. 754 00:37:24,560 --> 00:37:25,879 Speaker 13: But he doesn't get any love. 755 00:37:26,320 --> 00:37:27,000 Speaker 15: I'm just trying to. 756 00:37:26,960 --> 00:37:30,640 Speaker 13: Understand where he fits in because I think taking Welker 757 00:37:31,280 --> 00:37:34,399 Speaker 13: and Amadola and some of these sort of second tier 758 00:37:34,480 --> 00:37:37,959 Speaker 13: players and making them stars has to be a little 759 00:37:37,960 --> 00:37:38,840 Speaker 13: bit about his scheme. 760 00:37:39,160 --> 00:37:42,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, but you know the book is called Brady Versus Belichick, 761 00:37:43,000 --> 00:37:48,160 Speaker 2: not Brady versus Belichick versus McDaniels. I mean, Josh did 762 00:37:48,160 --> 00:37:52,520 Speaker 2: a great job. Wasn't head coach material, But yeah, I'm 763 00:37:52,520 --> 00:37:55,400 Speaker 2: sure Tom would say. Tom might even say that he 764 00:37:55,480 --> 00:37:58,440 Speaker 2: had more to do with his development, maybe later in 765 00:37:58,480 --> 00:38:01,719 Speaker 2: his career, than build it. But as Gary Myers pointed out, 766 00:38:02,680 --> 00:38:07,399 Speaker 2: Bill was helping him understand from a defensive perspective, I'm 767 00:38:07,400 --> 00:38:09,920 Speaker 2: going to give you the defensive look, and then you 768 00:38:09,960 --> 00:38:13,439 Speaker 2: as a quarterback, this will help you develop and It's 769 00:38:13,440 --> 00:38:19,000 Speaker 2: a great point that he made there. Andy and Grand Rapids. 770 00:38:19,160 --> 00:38:23,279 Speaker 3: Hi, Andy, Hey Dan, how are we doing today? Good? Good? Good? 771 00:38:24,360 --> 00:38:28,239 Speaker 13: Heay first time forever time five ten two five. 772 00:38:30,960 --> 00:38:34,120 Speaker 16: I'm a lifelong Titan fans, and now I'll never understand 773 00:38:34,120 --> 00:38:38,319 Speaker 16: why they fired Rabel. But I've been saying all year 774 00:38:38,400 --> 00:38:40,080 Speaker 16: that I'm convinced that they're going to be back to 775 00:38:40,200 --> 00:38:41,800 Speaker 16: back number one. 776 00:38:41,800 --> 00:38:43,200 Speaker 13: Overall picks this year. 777 00:38:44,800 --> 00:38:46,920 Speaker 16: This is the first time that happened since two thousand 778 00:38:47,000 --> 00:38:50,839 Speaker 16: with the Browns. I'm hoping for an update from you 779 00:38:50,920 --> 00:38:54,759 Speaker 16: guys about going to nordamee USC because I'd love to 780 00:38:54,760 --> 00:38:58,000 Speaker 16: make a pile of face that assuming I could pie one. 781 00:38:57,880 --> 00:39:01,640 Speaker 3: Of you or you guys pie me, and what's the bet? 782 00:39:02,680 --> 00:39:05,600 Speaker 16: The bet would be that the Titans don't win a 783 00:39:05,680 --> 00:39:09,760 Speaker 16: game before you guys go to that to the USC 784 00:39:10,239 --> 00:39:10,959 Speaker 16: dar Dame game. 785 00:39:11,360 --> 00:39:13,280 Speaker 3: I'd have to look at the schedule there. Andy. 786 00:39:14,520 --> 00:39:15,840 Speaker 16: Of course, I don't have it in front of me 787 00:39:15,920 --> 00:39:18,080 Speaker 16: because I'm at work hiding in a closet right now. 788 00:39:18,080 --> 00:39:20,440 Speaker 2: I'm at work too, and I don't have it in 789 00:39:20,480 --> 00:39:24,080 Speaker 2: front of me. I normally carry the Titans schedule. I 790 00:39:24,160 --> 00:39:26,320 Speaker 2: have that in my wallet web chart. Yes, I have 791 00:39:26,400 --> 00:39:27,360 Speaker 2: it in my wallet. 792 00:39:27,560 --> 00:39:31,960 Speaker 3: Say when's the Notre Dame game October? 793 00:39:32,760 --> 00:39:40,040 Speaker 4: So then the Titans have the cults, uh, Texans, Cardinals, Raiders. 794 00:39:41,400 --> 00:39:44,800 Speaker 3: M that's a little choppy. 795 00:39:44,840 --> 00:39:49,759 Speaker 4: I don't know, some semi munchie. 796 00:39:51,600 --> 00:39:54,600 Speaker 2: I have to give that some thought. Two hours in 797 00:39:54,640 --> 00:39:57,360 Speaker 2: the books, one more to go. We're talking the tush 798 00:39:57,440 --> 00:39:59,320 Speaker 2: push coming up top of the hour.