WEBVTT - Damian Kulash (OK Go) 0:00:00.200 --> 0:00:03.480 This is me, Craig Ferguson. I'm inviting you to come 0:00:03.560 --> 0:00:05.960 and see my brand new comedy hour. Well it's actually 0:00:06.000 --> 0:00:07.480 it's about an hour and a half and I don't 0:00:07.480 --> 0:00:10.039 have an opener because these guys cost money. But what 0:00:10.080 --> 0:00:13.039 I'm saying is I'll be on stage for a while. Anyway, 0:00:13.080 --> 0:00:15.600 come and see me live on the Pants on Fire 0:00:16.000 --> 0:00:19.760 Tour in your region. Tickets are on sale now, and 0:00:19.840 --> 0:00:23.200 we'll be adding more as the tour continues throughout twenty 0:00:23.320 --> 0:00:27.040 twenty five and beyond. For a full list of dates, 0:00:27.080 --> 0:00:30.360 go to the Craig Ferguson show dot com. See you 0:00:30.400 --> 0:00:35.040 on the road, My DearS. My name is Craig Ferguson. 0:00:35.440 --> 0:00:39.479 The name of this podcast is joy. I talk to 0:00:39.640 --> 0:00:46.000 interesting people about what brings them happiness. My guest in 0:00:46.080 --> 0:00:48.840 the podcast today I've been aware of for a long time. 0:00:49.240 --> 0:00:52.120 His band We're on my old late night show when 0:00:52.159 --> 0:00:54.960 it was so well, you'll hear this story anyway. 0:00:55.080 --> 0:01:06.679 Please welcome Damien Kulash from Okaygo. Damien. 0:01:07.280 --> 0:01:10.360 First of all, let me apologize. Don't get too close 0:01:10.400 --> 0:01:12.920 to your microphone because I'm feeling but a little poorly. 0:01:13.600 --> 0:01:16.800 I've got I think I've got a cold, but it 0:01:16.840 --> 0:01:18.040 could be leprosy. 0:01:18.080 --> 0:01:19.120 It could be anything. I don't know. 0:01:19.160 --> 0:01:22.120 We've got many symptoms. Start with a code. 0:01:22.319 --> 0:01:23.399 How are you you? Okay? 0:01:24.200 --> 0:01:26.440 I'm well, I'm better than I'm better than that. I 0:01:26.480 --> 0:01:29.680 don't think I'm I have leprosy? 0:01:29.959 --> 0:01:33.360 Okay, well that's good. Are you a hypochondriact? And anyway, No, 0:01:33.680 --> 0:01:37.360 not particularly many artists are. You know. I think it's 0:01:38.120 --> 0:01:41.399 I think it's something to do with a creative mind 0:01:41.440 --> 0:01:43.080 getting bored and you go. 0:01:43.680 --> 0:01:45.280 It could be we're. 0:01:44.959 --> 0:01:48.440 Just the delicacy of our sensitive little souls. 0:01:49.200 --> 0:01:52.120 Now I see, we're we're going to embark on an 0:01:52.120 --> 0:01:58.080 existential crisis. Hey, I know that you did the old 0:01:58.120 --> 0:02:01.080 late night show like years ago, right, Yeah, I was 0:02:01.080 --> 0:02:03.480 doing Late Night and it was right at this It 0:02:03.520 --> 0:02:06.240 was before this two shell pass. 0:02:06.360 --> 0:02:07.320 It was before I mean it. 0:02:07.280 --> 0:02:10.760 Was really it was quite early, right, long time ago. Yes, 0:02:11.120 --> 0:02:14.000 it was when the show was so small. The band 0:02:14.080 --> 0:02:18.000 had to play and then you guys had to go away, 0:02:18.040 --> 0:02:19.680 and then we put the late night thing in and 0:02:19.720 --> 0:02:21.800 then we we shot it out of order so that 0:02:21.840 --> 0:02:23.880 the band played first. That was right, right, That was 0:02:24.000 --> 0:02:26.800 you were doing that? That sounds right to me. 0:02:27.280 --> 0:02:30.440 Yeah, I've had kids done sense, So I don't remember anything. 0:02:30.680 --> 0:02:36.120 Yeah, that's interesting, so have I And I remember Patchy Bits, 0:02:36.560 --> 0:02:37.640 who were a great band. 0:02:37.680 --> 0:02:39.720 Patchy Bits they were they were really lovely. 0:02:39.800 --> 0:02:43.880 But listen, I think that was interesting because I mean, 0:02:43.919 --> 0:02:46.560 obviously I've known of the band, and even right at 0:02:46.560 --> 0:02:52.320 the very beginning of Late Night, I always kind of 0:02:52.360 --> 0:02:54.920 like I would, I will say yes or no to 0:02:54.960 --> 0:02:57.480 the bands, and so I was very familiar with Okay 0:02:57.520 --> 0:03:00.639 go very early, or I thought early on. I mean 0:03:00.639 --> 0:03:05.120 imagine it was not early on for you, but since 0:03:05.160 --> 0:03:08.600 then the kind of performance nature of what you do, 0:03:08.639 --> 0:03:10.919 because you're not like a normal rock star. First of all, 0:03:10.919 --> 0:03:13.760 I can see you're in your kitchen. That's and you 0:03:13.800 --> 0:03:17.840 have a throw blank on your sofa. This is true, 0:03:17.919 --> 0:03:21.040 This is true. This is not my own home, but 0:03:21.040 --> 0:03:22.880 it's not no. 0:03:23.560 --> 0:03:27.799 Wow, there's been fires in Los Angeles as Oh my god. 0:03:27.560 --> 0:03:30.000 Did you get evacuated? Did you get into trouble? 0:03:30.080 --> 0:03:33.320 I did? I you know, I don't. My home is 0:03:33.360 --> 0:03:37.160 still there and is safe. But my kids' school is 0:03:37.240 --> 0:03:40.040 very close to where the fires were. And while I 0:03:40.040 --> 0:03:46.280 am not a hypochondriactor, and I'm very cautious with their 0:03:46.960 --> 0:03:50.839 exposure to heavy metals and flying asbestos and so forth. 0:03:51.160 --> 0:03:53.480 That's that's exactly what I fail about it. 0:03:53.520 --> 0:03:55.680 Because I lived in Ala for years and years and 0:03:55.760 --> 0:03:57.080 years and years, and I still have a lot of 0:03:57.120 --> 0:03:59.320 friends there who have moved out. I would have been 0:03:59.360 --> 0:04:02.240 I would be rified now to just be there breathing 0:04:02.280 --> 0:04:02.760 that stuff. 0:04:02.800 --> 0:04:06.880 And it is nasty stuff. And there's a big push 0:04:07.160 --> 0:04:10.640 towards normalcy, which I completely understand. Like everybody wants life 0:04:10.680 --> 0:04:15.160 to keep going, and so the fastest you can open, 0:04:15.240 --> 0:04:16.800 you know, the faster you can open the schools, the 0:04:16.800 --> 0:04:18.720 faster you can get everybody back into their sort of 0:04:18.760 --> 0:04:23.479 like routine, the better. But we are opting out of 0:04:23.480 --> 0:04:27.680 that for a little while we're in Santa Barbara because 0:04:27.680 --> 0:04:29.280 it is it feels too toxic. 0:04:29.680 --> 0:04:32.599 Yeah, I would be totally doing that as well. I'm 0:04:32.640 --> 0:04:35.240 in London and I've just been on the Tube, the 0:04:35.440 --> 0:04:36.400 London Underground. 0:04:36.880 --> 0:04:39.520 That's pretty toxic too. Actually, I think that's where I live, 0:04:40.240 --> 0:04:41.039 where am I go my. 0:04:41.080 --> 0:04:45.720 Cold so much much more romantic type of toxic it is. 0:04:45.839 --> 0:04:48.599 It's a little bit like it's toxic, but it's also 0:04:48.640 --> 0:04:51.960 a Richard Curtis movie. You can see lots of little 0:04:52.080 --> 0:04:54.799 rich of Curtiss movies going on all over the subway. 0:04:55.120 --> 0:04:57.000 I think, by the way, that would be a good 0:04:57.000 --> 0:05:00.120 place for an okay go video would be the subway 0:05:00.200 --> 0:05:03.160 jumping leaping across trains instead of. 0:05:04.480 --> 0:05:06.480 Yeah, I don't know. I don't know why we haven't. 0:05:06.200 --> 0:05:06.680 Fun of it? 0:05:07.240 --> 0:05:10.480 Are you still doing the super kind of complicated and 0:05:10.839 --> 0:05:13.480 like performance are videos are? 0:05:14.240 --> 0:05:17.240 Yes? We just released a new video two weeks ago 0:05:18.080 --> 0:05:20.920 last week the week before, yeah, two weeks ago, which 0:05:21.000 --> 0:05:25.640 is it features sixty four clips on sixty four phones, 0:05:26.160 --> 0:05:28.760 all laid out on the floor as a mosaic. 0:05:29.240 --> 0:05:31.040 I have to say, I haven't seen it yet. What's 0:05:31.120 --> 0:05:33.480 what's the name of the song that goes with it? 0:05:33.480 --> 0:05:35.599 It's called a Stone only rolls Downhill? 0:05:35.920 --> 0:05:39.800 Okay? And it is the opening lines are I wish 0:05:39.839 --> 0:05:41.320 I could say, would all be all right? 0:05:41.680 --> 0:05:43.480 That you're concerned about the state of the I mean, 0:05:43.480 --> 0:05:45.320 I think everybody's concerned about the state of the world. 0:05:45.720 --> 0:05:46.680 Are you not concerned? 0:05:46.839 --> 0:05:48.000 Well, you know, I haven't. 0:05:48.200 --> 0:05:50.440 No, I'll tell you I've been I've been bored in 0:05:50.440 --> 0:05:53.480 the urself of everyone who listens to this podcast. But 0:05:53.760 --> 0:05:56.880 I've been reading a lot of historical novels, particularly the 0:05:56.920 --> 0:06:00.600 work of gor Vidal, and it's been bad for a 0:06:00.680 --> 0:06:05.680 long time. I feel like this is not it's always crazy. 0:06:06.080 --> 0:06:08.040 I feel like I think like I'm getting a sense, 0:06:08.120 --> 0:06:10.080 a little bit of a sense of perspective. Of course, 0:06:10.080 --> 0:06:12.960 I'm worried, but if you look at it, it's it's 0:06:13.000 --> 0:06:15.599 always been pretty scary for humans on this planet. 0:06:16.480 --> 0:06:20.080 Yeah, you think it's worse, I do, really, I think 0:06:20.080 --> 0:06:24.800 it is. I think it is more. I think that 0:06:24.920 --> 0:06:28.000 the things we are, I think we're at some tipping 0:06:28.040 --> 0:06:30.680 points into some some places we may not be able 0:06:30.720 --> 0:06:32.359 to return from as easily. I think it is. 0:06:32.520 --> 0:06:34.200 I think you're right, that has always been bad, and 0:06:34.160 --> 0:06:35.239 it has always been crazy. 0:06:35.800 --> 0:06:39.040 Uh. But I but I think that the I am 0:06:39.160 --> 0:06:41.560 very worried about the governmental changes happening in the US 0:06:41.680 --> 0:06:45.880 right now. That having a you know, a president. 0:06:45.480 --> 0:06:48.919 That acts more like a fearer is not great. 0:06:50.120 --> 0:06:53.159 And and I do think that that that climate stuff 0:06:53.279 --> 0:06:58.440 is passing tipping points that really change the way humans live. 0:06:58.960 --> 0:07:02.760 I don't necessarily think like I'm not running from a 0:07:02.800 --> 0:07:07.240 specific fire as much as I am the toxicity that 0:07:07.320 --> 0:07:09.800 comes after that and the social changes that come after that. 0:07:09.840 --> 0:07:12.520 You know, I think that a lot of what's happening, 0:07:12.760 --> 0:07:15.840 you know, I think the let's see what's the right is. 0:07:15.880 --> 0:07:19.320 I think the war in Syria is really a climate war. 0:07:19.440 --> 0:07:22.400 I think that the migration problems at the southern border 0:07:22.440 --> 0:07:25.320 are really are really climate problems that when you have 0:07:26.040 --> 0:07:29.360 the reason you have MS thirteen in taking over cities 0:07:29.400 --> 0:07:32.560 in South America is because there's an influx of people 0:07:32.600 --> 0:07:36.200 from agricultural areas that are no longer used for agriculture 0:07:36.200 --> 0:07:38.640 because they've been in drop for so long. So it 0:07:38.720 --> 0:07:41.400 seems like a social problem at the border of the US, 0:07:41.480 --> 0:07:46.800 but it's actually a climate problem globally. So that's what 0:07:46.800 --> 0:07:47.440 I'm worried about. 0:07:47.680 --> 0:07:49.200 Well, what would you do? 0:07:49.240 --> 0:07:51.800 You have any ideas about how you think a solution 0:07:52.000 --> 0:07:52.840 may be achieved? 0:07:53.520 --> 0:07:57.560 You just write pop songs. That's the way to do it. 0:07:57.760 --> 0:07:59.760 But I think it's kind of interesting because I think 0:08:00.000 --> 0:08:02.520 nobody is worried about I mean, any sentient being. I 0:08:02.600 --> 0:08:04.600 think it has to be worried about climate change because 0:08:04.600 --> 0:08:07.760 it's it's the planet on which we live. But the 0:08:07.760 --> 0:08:12.600 the idea that I I've had this discussion with my kids, 0:08:12.640 --> 0:08:14.440 who are a bit probably a bit older than yours, 0:08:14.520 --> 0:08:18.000 I think, but that I feel at this point, you know, 0:08:18.280 --> 0:08:21.680 all of our frothy entreaties to you know, get your 0:08:21.680 --> 0:08:25.960 grandma to separate our you know, plastic bag from the 0:08:26.360 --> 0:08:26.920 you know, the. 0:08:27.080 --> 0:08:29.679 Eggs is not It's not gonna work. 0:08:29.920 --> 0:08:31.920 And I think at this point we've now reached a 0:08:32.080 --> 0:08:35.160 it's an engineering problem. We have to actually we have 0:08:35.200 --> 0:08:38.760 to actually intervene in some way. And I think that's 0:08:38.840 --> 0:08:41.720 kind of that's kind of fascinating to me because I 0:08:41.760 --> 0:08:44.600 feel that nothing's going to change until it becomes profitable. 0:08:45.480 --> 0:08:48.440 I feel like climate change has to become profitable for 0:08:48.520 --> 0:08:51.320 someone to say, well, we'll pay you five hundred billion 0:08:51.640 --> 0:08:54.680 dollars to do some cloud seeding and bring down the 0:08:54.720 --> 0:08:57.400 temperature of the North Atlantic by three degrees, and then 0:08:57.440 --> 0:09:00.280 someone will do it because it can be done. 0:09:01.000 --> 0:09:03.040 I hope you're what do you think then? 0:09:04.520 --> 0:09:10.320 I think that solar is already cheaper than than fossil fuels, 0:09:10.360 --> 0:09:15.040 and yet we keep opening Newel's and trying to dig more. 0:09:15.160 --> 0:09:21.160 You know, I think that the I agree is systemic. 0:09:21.400 --> 0:09:25.600 I do not think that the that that recycling our 0:09:25.760 --> 0:09:30.320 you know that I don't. I don't think this choice 0:09:30.320 --> 0:09:31.880 should be on the consumer. I don't think it is 0:09:31.880 --> 0:09:34.160 a consumer choice. You can't expect everybody in the world 0:09:34.240 --> 0:09:37.040 to make the best decision for the planet. What you 0:09:37.080 --> 0:09:40.640 need to do is is actually make good structural decisions 0:09:40.640 --> 0:09:46.280 for the planet. I am not super bullish on geoengineering stuff. 0:09:46.679 --> 0:09:49.520 I'm but I'm also not a scientist. I just sort 0:09:49.520 --> 0:09:54.120 of feel like that those geoengineering solutions are often used 0:09:54.240 --> 0:09:57.079 as a sort of solve for like, I know it's 0:09:57.120 --> 0:09:59.160 really bad, but we can fix this, and sort of like, no, 0:09:59.320 --> 0:10:02.920 the thing we should do stop drilling, like stop stop 0:10:02.960 --> 0:10:03.600 burning oil. 0:10:03.920 --> 0:10:07.000 That is the obvious thing to do, and yeah, I 0:10:07.080 --> 0:10:07.680 know that. 0:10:08.160 --> 0:10:11.960 I well, we could easily find you know, someone else 0:10:11.960 --> 0:10:14.240 who could see here's why we mustn't stop drilling oil, 0:10:14.360 --> 0:10:16.400 and now we must have to. Yeah, I mean, there 0:10:16.960 --> 0:10:20.400 is such a it's an argument which is it seems 0:10:20.400 --> 0:10:23.840 like one of those arguments where you can't persuade anyone, 0:10:23.880 --> 0:10:25.360 do you know what I mean. It's like people dig 0:10:25.440 --> 0:10:28.640 in exactly, and then it's like and I feel like 0:10:28.679 --> 0:10:30.240 the nature of argument has become a. 0:10:30.280 --> 0:10:31.840 Little a little difficult as well. 0:10:32.000 --> 0:10:35.360 It's like it's not just about climate change, it's about 0:10:36.160 --> 0:10:40.480 societal change, in the sense that the difficulty in argument 0:10:40.600 --> 0:10:43.840 now is that you don't really you don't really discuss 0:10:43.920 --> 0:10:47.760 to move forward it's not socratic. It's more about well, 0:10:47.800 --> 0:10:50.880 what's your position. Well, here's my position, and here's why 0:10:50.920 --> 0:10:53.360 your position is wrong, and here's why my position is right. 0:10:53.440 --> 0:10:55.040 And it doesn't seem to move. I think it's a 0:10:55.040 --> 0:10:55.680 real gridlock. 0:10:55.760 --> 0:11:01.600 It's I think that's that's that's a systemic problem with humans. 0:11:01.160 --> 0:11:02.320 As well, I think, isn't it. 0:11:03.760 --> 0:11:04.720 I believe that it is. 0:11:05.000 --> 0:11:08.400 So maybe what I'm trying to get to is maybe 0:11:08.440 --> 0:11:11.600 writing pop songs is the right way to go, because 0:11:12.240 --> 0:11:15.960 if you can in some way through art, maybe not 0:11:16.080 --> 0:11:20.600 only pop songs, but pop songs and literature and art 0:11:20.920 --> 0:11:25.720 and entertainment and all of the things that artists do, 0:11:25.920 --> 0:11:31.319 perhaps that can help people kind of break the logjam 0:11:31.440 --> 0:11:33.880 of This is my position and I will never change 0:11:33.880 --> 0:11:36.400 from it, because you know, one of the great things 0:11:36.400 --> 0:11:38.200 I think, one of the great movies I think to 0:11:38.240 --> 0:11:41.760 watch for this is Dirty Dancing. You ever seen a 0:11:41.760 --> 0:11:43.560 movie dirty Of course, you've seen a movie Dirty Dancing, 0:11:43.720 --> 0:11:45.560 and you watch that movie. If you watch that movie 0:11:45.600 --> 0:11:48.960 when you're fifteen, or you watch that movie when you're 0:11:49.040 --> 0:11:51.880 fifty and you have children, it's. 0:11:51.679 --> 0:11:55.800 A completely it's completely different movie. You're like, wait a minute, 0:11:55.800 --> 0:11:56.720 that dad is right? 0:11:56.880 --> 0:11:59.240 You know, you know, and she should be put in 0:11:59.240 --> 0:12:01.640 the corner and age is Patrick Sweezey with that. 0:12:01.840 --> 0:12:04.680 This is what it's all about, what's going on here? 0:12:05.240 --> 0:12:10.280 But I think perspective is an artist's job, right, Yeah, 0:12:10.400 --> 0:12:13.079 it is. That's why I kind of I loved about 0:12:13.200 --> 0:12:20.080 the first Mad Giant performance piece that I saw of 0:12:20.160 --> 0:12:23.840 yours with. I saw the very famous Trademill video. It 0:12:23.920 --> 0:12:27.600 was very fun, thank you. But the Rube Goldberg machine 0:12:27.920 --> 0:12:31.280 for this too shall pass. I feel like that must 0:12:31.280 --> 0:12:35.400 have taken about four or five years together. I mean, 0:12:35.400 --> 0:12:38.800 it was an enormously complex Did you actually get it 0:12:38.840 --> 0:12:39.440 in one take? 0:12:39.480 --> 0:12:42.839 Eventually we did what you actually see. 0:12:43.200 --> 0:12:45.680 It goes from Take A to Take B back to 0:12:45.720 --> 0:12:51.280 Take A because there's a section of that where we're 0:12:51.320 --> 0:12:54.920 going down an elevator shaft following a bunch of fluids 0:12:54.920 --> 0:12:57.520 that sort of rise and fall on different you know, 0:12:57.880 --> 0:13:02.719 as as the machine trips itself, and the incredible, incredible 0:13:02.760 --> 0:13:06.800 cameraman Mick Waugh, who was who was doing this amazing 0:13:06.880 --> 0:13:10.640 job filming that did in the one perfect take otherwise 0:13:10.880 --> 0:13:13.000 did miss the level of the liquid in there for 0:13:13.040 --> 0:13:14.800 a second, so we had to we had to sort 0:13:14.800 --> 0:13:16.079 of stitch in take b. 0:13:16.200 --> 0:13:20.079 But because you did get the machine to do what 0:13:20.160 --> 0:13:21.040 it set out to do. 0:13:21.520 --> 0:13:23.840 Who designed the machine? Are you part of that? 0:13:24.800 --> 0:13:28.280 Yes, well there was we we put I mean this 0:13:28.400 --> 0:13:30.440 is now, you know, ten fifteen years ago, but we 0:13:30.440 --> 0:13:33.400 put a we put up a job posting on a 0:13:33.520 --> 0:13:37.480 sort of like nerdy artists board saying we're looking for 0:13:37.800 --> 0:13:41.480 an engineer who can help us build a Goldberg machine. 0:13:41.520 --> 0:13:45.760 And twelve engineers together wrote us a proposal, and we're like, guys, 0:13:45.800 --> 0:13:47.880 you're not very good engineers, if you like, you know, 0:13:48.040 --> 0:13:50.319 we asked for one. This is too many. 0:13:50.320 --> 0:13:52.120 We can't we cannot afford you. 0:13:52.320 --> 0:13:54.280 And they said, no, no, we'll just pay us like 0:13:54.320 --> 0:13:56.560 we're one person, and we'll just split it up. And 0:13:57.600 --> 0:13:59.559 it so wound up being this sort of group art 0:13:59.559 --> 0:14:03.840 project where by the end, I think people logged hours 0:14:03.880 --> 0:14:05.640 and you only got paid if you did more than 0:14:05.640 --> 0:14:07.560 ten hours a week or something like that. Like, but 0:14:07.600 --> 0:14:09.840 people would just come into this giant warehouse and everybody 0:14:09.840 --> 0:14:11.560 would sort of work on it together and play and 0:14:11.600 --> 0:14:14.360 have fun. And my dad build some of that machine. 0:14:14.440 --> 0:14:17.640 I built a bunch of that machine. We broke it 0:14:17.720 --> 0:14:21.600 up into a whole lot of different six second chunks 0:14:21.640 --> 0:14:23.640 of the song, and so that there was sort of 0:14:23.720 --> 0:14:28.040 like there were discrete problems to try to solve and 0:14:28.040 --> 0:14:30.400 and we could then review things while we were on 0:14:30.480 --> 0:14:32.760 tour and come back and you know, like the last 0:14:32.800 --> 0:14:35.280 three weeks of that build, I was there every day, 0:14:35.280 --> 0:14:37.720 but there was another like three months. 0:14:37.800 --> 0:14:40.560 So you would you in the in the case of 0:14:40.880 --> 0:14:43.880 like these big videos, will you amand the music to 0:14:44.000 --> 0:14:45.200 fit the video? 0:14:45.240 --> 0:14:45.800 Will you change? 0:14:46.040 --> 0:14:47.760 Like you know, if you're in a you know, that 0:14:47.920 --> 0:14:50.440 one show looking thing in the airplane, do you change 0:14:50.480 --> 0:14:51.479 the music. 0:14:51.240 --> 0:14:55.680 To generally know the one shot one in the airplane 0:14:55.920 --> 0:14:59.240 is uh, that's the that's the album version of that song. 0:15:00.880 --> 0:15:03.000 That one is you know, we're in zero gravity and 0:15:03.440 --> 0:15:07.920 you can get twenty eight seconds of sorry, you can 0:15:07.920 --> 0:15:10.600 get yeah, twenty eight and a half seconds of zero 0:15:10.600 --> 0:15:14.840 gravity for each each time the plane dives. So what 0:15:14.920 --> 0:15:18.640 we did for that was we broke the song up 0:15:18.680 --> 0:15:22.920 into twenty one second chunks that were that fit the 0:15:23.240 --> 0:15:25.520 you know, tempo of the music nicely, so that every 0:15:25.600 --> 0:15:30.000 four bars there would be a applause based. 0:15:29.760 --> 0:15:31.680 So, how do you rehearse that something like that? 0:15:31.720 --> 0:15:32.120 Do you do? 0:15:32.200 --> 0:15:33.040 You have to rehearse it? 0:15:33.120 --> 0:15:35.440 Like are you watching a clock while the plane is 0:15:35.440 --> 0:15:36.200 in the site wave? 0:15:36.320 --> 0:15:38.120 Is that what was happening? Or were you? 0:15:38.840 --> 0:15:41.600 We spent six flights just bouncing off the walls doing 0:15:41.720 --> 0:15:46.520 every like, you know, six flights of fifteen each, So 0:15:46.560 --> 0:15:49.120 what is that three hundred? Do I have that? Six? 0:15:49.400 --> 0:15:51.360 Fifteen is six? 0:15:51.520 --> 0:15:54.000 No, I'm way off sixty ninety. 0:15:55.040 --> 0:15:58.560 So we had ninety little like test segments and then 0:15:59.200 --> 0:16:02.800 and then we then with the footage from that, we 0:16:02.840 --> 0:16:05.200 had go pros everywhere just filming everything. With a footage 0:16:05.200 --> 0:16:07.320 from that, we put together what we thought a routine 0:16:07.320 --> 0:16:10.400 would be, you know, just in a dance studio, going 0:16:10.480 --> 0:16:11.880 kind of like we could do this thing and then 0:16:11.880 --> 0:16:14.120 that thing, and then and then we went back to 0:16:15.080 --> 0:16:18.800 the plane and spent another week, another six flights trying 0:16:18.800 --> 0:16:22.080 out that routine, and then finally a week of shooting those. 0:16:22.320 --> 0:16:25.680 And during the week of shooting them, each flight you 0:16:25.760 --> 0:16:30.120 have fifteen periods of weightlessness. The video requires eight of them, 0:16:30.160 --> 0:16:32.880 so we do seven as a rehearsal, then reset everything 0:16:33.000 --> 0:16:35.440 and do the full video as the final eight. And 0:16:35.520 --> 0:16:39.360 in between each like, it's thirty seconds of weightlessness more 0:16:39.440 --> 0:16:43.080 or less, then five minutes as the plane climbs back 0:16:43.160 --> 0:16:45.160 up to where it can basically drop you again. And 0:16:46.720 --> 0:16:48.480 during that we just to sit still as we could 0:16:48.600 --> 0:16:51.960 so that we would later be able to like morph 0:16:52.040 --> 0:16:52.680 over that period. 0:16:53.000 --> 0:16:57.960 It sounds fantastically expansive. It was it. Yeah, who paid? 0:16:58.040 --> 0:16:59.200 The record company paid for this? 0:17:00.160 --> 0:17:05.080 No, we are our own label. So a Russian airline 0:17:05.640 --> 0:17:09.320 this was back before the Russia and THESTA fell apart. 0:17:10.480 --> 0:17:12.800 There you'll see on the back of the back of 0:17:12.800 --> 0:17:14.480 that plane, I mean like in the in the back 0:17:14.560 --> 0:17:15.640 you can see it as a S seven. 0:17:15.720 --> 0:17:18.040 That's a Russian airline and they were this was their 0:17:18.240 --> 0:17:18.920 ad campaign. 0:17:19.040 --> 0:17:28.240 Wow, so they donated that for an ad campaign. That's great. Hello, 0:17:28.840 --> 0:17:31.560 this is Craig Ferguson and I want to let you 0:17:31.680 --> 0:17:33.919 know I have a brand new stand up comedy special 0:17:34.000 --> 0:17:38.040 out now on YouTube. It's called I'm So Happy, and 0:17:38.240 --> 0:17:41.120 I would be so happy if you checked it out. 0:17:41.400 --> 0:17:43.600 To watch the special, just go to my YouTube channel 0:17:44.000 --> 0:17:46.760 at the Craig Ferguson Show and is this right there? 0:17:47.160 --> 0:17:49.840 Just click it and play it and it's free. I 0:17:49.880 --> 0:17:50.360 can't look. 0:17:50.359 --> 0:17:51.680 I'm not going to come around your house and show 0:17:51.680 --> 0:17:53.040 you how to do it. If you can't do it, 0:17:53.080 --> 0:17:54.600 then you can't have it. But if you can figure 0:17:54.600 --> 0:18:01.560 it out, it's yours. You must have some very clever 0:18:01.720 --> 0:18:04.520 producing skills or some very clever producers to I mean, 0:18:04.560 --> 0:18:06.639 how the hell do you get in touch with Russian airlines? 0:18:06.680 --> 0:18:09.439 So do you want to do music video and it 0:18:09.440 --> 0:18:11.920 will get you know, because I. 0:18:11.840 --> 0:18:13.960 Don't think I don't think I even voice that video go. 0:18:14.040 --> 0:18:16.159 You know what airline I should be taken is the 0:18:16.200 --> 0:18:16.600 one that. 0:18:19.119 --> 0:18:22.280 I do remember thinking like how ambitious are you? Like, 0:18:22.280 --> 0:18:26.280 like well, and how risk averse are you? Because like 0:18:26.320 --> 0:18:27.919 that's not the type of airplane you want to be in. 0:18:27.960 --> 0:18:32.720 But you know, our Goldberg Machine was underwritten by by 0:18:32.800 --> 0:18:36.120 State Farm Insurance, which it's like, I feel like everything 0:18:36.119 --> 0:18:38.280 that happens in that video looks like something you should 0:18:38.320 --> 0:18:40.000 be ensuring again, you know, like. 0:18:39.960 --> 0:18:43.320 But that's that's kind of interesting because they I mean 0:18:43.359 --> 0:18:47.600 presumably they were the good guys when they were underwrite 0:18:47.600 --> 0:18:49.800 in the video. But I don't know if everyone's very 0:18:49.840 --> 0:18:53.199 happy with State Farm Insurance right now, particularly in Los Angeles. 0:18:53.600 --> 0:18:57.080 No, no, but certainly not. I mean again, this is 0:18:57.200 --> 0:19:01.840 many years ago, but I you know, like we had 0:19:01.880 --> 0:19:06.040 to make this this choice fifteen twenty years ago about 0:19:06.080 --> 0:19:09.120 whether or not we were going to do the standard 0:19:09.160 --> 0:19:13.840 music industry dance or try to do it ourselves, and 0:19:14.640 --> 0:19:16.720 that that State Farm video was the first one where 0:19:16.720 --> 0:19:20.160 we had any any brand money helping to pay for stuff, 0:19:20.200 --> 0:19:23.040 and it was it was a difficult balance because back 0:19:23.080 --> 0:19:25.640 then the idea of selling out was a very real thing, 0:19:25.680 --> 0:19:27.639 and it was like, people are going to hate this 0:19:28.160 --> 0:19:30.760 if they if it feels like we are just you know, 0:19:30.840 --> 0:19:35.000 sort of dancing monkeys. Now it's best I understand it, 0:19:35.040 --> 0:19:39.800 Like you know, younger millennials definitely gen Z and beyond 0:19:40.359 --> 0:19:46.600 see see those brand collaborations as as a badge of 0:19:46.600 --> 0:19:48.360 honors like it's it's there's. 0:19:48.200 --> 0:19:49.840 I think that the opposite of that. 0:19:50.200 --> 0:19:52.000 I think they look at it a different way as well, 0:19:52.040 --> 0:19:55.480 because because they also use it as their as their power. 0:19:55.560 --> 0:19:57.480 I think the young people when they say we will 0:19:57.560 --> 0:20:00.720 withdraw our business from Target or Star Books or whoever, 0:20:00.760 --> 0:20:03.440 as they're angry at at the time, until you fall 0:20:03.480 --> 0:20:06.680 in line with you know, whatever we're arguing about, which 0:20:07.000 --> 0:20:09.600 is a different It is a kind of change which 0:20:09.640 --> 0:20:13.159 I think is it has it does it's valid? I 0:20:13.160 --> 0:20:15.439 mean there is a kind of like, well, I'm not 0:20:15.520 --> 0:20:18.480 buying your crap until I feel like you're a decent 0:20:18.560 --> 0:20:22.119 human being. Or your position aligns with mine, which I 0:20:22.119 --> 0:20:24.080 think is fair. That seems democratic to me. 0:20:24.800 --> 0:20:27.119 Absolutely, yeah, I think that. I mean, voting with your 0:20:27.160 --> 0:20:31.359 dollar is a is more effective than voting. Yeah, I 0:20:31.359 --> 0:20:33.600 think everybody's voting with dollars. It just depends on much 0:20:33.680 --> 0:20:35.639 dollars you have and what votes you're using to do. 0:20:36.200 --> 0:20:40.240