1 00:00:00,960 --> 00:00:04,320 Speaker 1: From UFOs two, ghosts and government cover ups. History is 2 00:00:04,360 --> 00:00:08,000 Speaker 1: whirled with unexplained events. You can turn back now or 3 00:00:08,119 --> 00:00:11,160 Speaker 1: learn the stuff they don't want you to now. Welcome 4 00:00:11,160 --> 00:00:13,440 Speaker 1: back to the show. My name is Matt, I'm Ben, 5 00:00:13,480 --> 00:00:16,599 Speaker 1: and we are here as always with our super producer, 6 00:00:16,800 --> 00:00:22,639 Speaker 1: Noel the Iceman Brown. Hey, Noel, So everybody just on 7 00:00:22,680 --> 00:00:24,280 Speaker 1: the top here. I just wanted to let you know 8 00:00:24,520 --> 00:00:29,200 Speaker 1: I got a vaccine, a T DEAP. What's a T 9 00:00:29,360 --> 00:00:32,720 Speaker 1: depth specifically it it's is supposed to help you out 10 00:00:32,720 --> 00:00:37,280 Speaker 1: with tetanus, diphtheria, and whooping cough. And there's a specific 11 00:00:37,280 --> 00:00:41,199 Speaker 1: reason that you need to get this vaccine that is 12 00:00:41,240 --> 00:00:44,879 Speaker 1: happening in my life. It's pretty awesome. And anyway, I 13 00:00:45,159 --> 00:00:47,519 Speaker 1: it seemed to be having some kind of reaction that 14 00:00:47,680 --> 00:00:50,639 Speaker 1: is not usually what's supposed to happen when you get 15 00:00:50,640 --> 00:00:52,960 Speaker 1: this vaccine. I had a fever of a hundred and 16 00:00:53,000 --> 00:00:57,160 Speaker 1: one point seven and uh, just been sweating my up 17 00:00:57,160 --> 00:00:59,080 Speaker 1: butt off, kind of out of it. Feel like your 18 00:00:59,120 --> 00:01:02,240 Speaker 1: brain is sort of wrap in cotton a bit. Yeah. 19 00:01:02,400 --> 00:01:05,440 Speaker 1: So yeah, I remember you were telling me that about 20 00:01:05,480 --> 00:01:10,760 Speaker 1: one in one hundred people have a reaction that you're having. Well, okay, 21 00:01:10,840 --> 00:01:14,160 Speaker 1: I can't. I can't say with authority that that is true. 22 00:01:14,360 --> 00:01:17,280 Speaker 1: I was told by a gentleman on the elevator of 23 00:01:17,319 --> 00:01:20,720 Speaker 1: this building yesterday after I was because he happened to 24 00:01:20,720 --> 00:01:23,120 Speaker 1: get on the elevator while I was moving my arm 25 00:01:23,160 --> 00:01:26,360 Speaker 1: around because the injection site is on your upper arm 26 00:01:27,000 --> 00:01:30,400 Speaker 1: and it's very, very sore, and there's about a twenty 27 00:01:30,400 --> 00:01:32,480 Speaker 1: four hour period where your arm is supposed to hurt, 28 00:01:32,959 --> 00:01:36,479 Speaker 1: and you know, I was awkwardly moving my arm around 29 00:01:36,480 --> 00:01:38,880 Speaker 1: when he got on the elevator and he was like, oh, 30 00:01:39,000 --> 00:01:41,800 Speaker 1: what'd you get a vaccine? Like I said, yes, it 31 00:01:41,880 --> 00:01:43,800 Speaker 1: really hurts. He's like, what kind told him? It was 32 00:01:43,840 --> 00:01:46,720 Speaker 1: a TTAPP And he's like, oh, man, you know there's 33 00:01:46,760 --> 00:01:48,840 Speaker 1: about a one and one chance that you're going to 34 00:01:48,920 --> 00:01:51,800 Speaker 1: get a fever like I did. And I was like, 35 00:01:51,880 --> 00:01:55,480 Speaker 1: what got home? Guess what it manifested. I don't know 36 00:01:55,480 --> 00:01:59,040 Speaker 1: if that dude cursed me. Maybe he did. Maybe yeah, 37 00:01:59,160 --> 00:02:02,559 Speaker 1: maybe he in set did you somehow? I don't know. Well, 38 00:02:02,760 --> 00:02:05,960 Speaker 1: this guy Mett if you were described were to describe 39 00:02:06,000 --> 00:02:09,040 Speaker 1: him to someone, would you describe him as a doctor. 40 00:02:10,360 --> 00:02:15,280 Speaker 1: I couldn't say. Okay, I believe he lives in this building, 41 00:02:15,320 --> 00:02:17,480 Speaker 1: But you know, who knows. They're all kinds of different 42 00:02:17,520 --> 00:02:19,440 Speaker 1: and amazing people that live here and some that aren't 43 00:02:19,480 --> 00:02:22,360 Speaker 1: so amazing. This building is huge. Yes, there are people 44 00:02:22,400 --> 00:02:25,480 Speaker 1: that no one else knows lives here, right in the nooks, 45 00:02:25,480 --> 00:02:30,760 Speaker 1: the crannies, the unexplored areas of the of this Gargantlan thing. 46 00:02:31,160 --> 00:02:37,919 Speaker 1: And today we're talking about unexplored Gargantlan things. No, guys, 47 00:02:38,000 --> 00:02:41,240 Speaker 1: we hope that you appreciate this show because Matt has 48 00:02:41,320 --> 00:02:43,720 Speaker 1: pushed himself a little bit closer and closer to that 49 00:02:43,919 --> 00:02:47,560 Speaker 1: death's door. Dast so it is so dangerous for me 50 00:02:47,639 --> 00:02:50,720 Speaker 1: to do this right now. Well, at first I thought 51 00:02:50,800 --> 00:02:52,680 Speaker 1: that was a single tear coming out of your eye, 52 00:02:52,720 --> 00:02:56,040 Speaker 1: but appears to be blood. It's blood and sweat and 53 00:02:56,080 --> 00:02:59,520 Speaker 1: maybe it's here. So oh man, that's you know, that's 54 00:02:59,560 --> 00:03:03,079 Speaker 1: that's kind cool, like respect that cool. So we're we're 55 00:03:03,120 --> 00:03:06,320 Speaker 1: gonna get through this episode to tell you some exciting 56 00:03:06,360 --> 00:03:12,119 Speaker 1: stuff before hopefully uh my co host and producer, Matt 57 00:03:12,280 --> 00:03:16,480 Speaker 1: Madman Frederick it's your nickname for today, uh passes away 58 00:03:16,480 --> 00:03:19,440 Speaker 1: into the great beyond. Oh man, alright, cool, let's get 59 00:03:19,440 --> 00:03:22,920 Speaker 1: through this, no pressure. Let's just make this the best 60 00:03:23,120 --> 00:03:28,680 Speaker 1: one so um by way of an introduction, and and 61 00:03:28,760 --> 00:03:31,240 Speaker 1: that I'm joking right, you'll be fine. I don't know. 62 00:03:31,280 --> 00:03:34,560 Speaker 1: I thought I would be over much faster than us. 63 00:03:34,800 --> 00:03:37,600 Speaker 1: So maybe I'm just on a downward spiral. We'll find out. 64 00:03:37,800 --> 00:03:40,240 Speaker 1: What's cool. Man. A little delirium always helps his show. 65 00:03:40,880 --> 00:03:43,160 Speaker 1: That time I didn't sleep that was great. That was 66 00:03:43,200 --> 00:03:46,160 Speaker 1: my favorite episode. We've made some more. Really alright, well 67 00:03:46,200 --> 00:03:49,160 Speaker 1: this is gonna be the new favorite. Okay. So there's 68 00:03:49,240 --> 00:03:55,160 Speaker 1: this book that I really enjoy called The Atlas of 69 00:03:55,280 --> 00:03:58,880 Speaker 1: Remote Islands and who and for everyone who is a 70 00:03:58,920 --> 00:04:01,560 Speaker 1: book lover in the audience. And there's nothing wrong with 71 00:04:01,560 --> 00:04:03,360 Speaker 1: not being a book lover because a lot of books 72 00:04:03,400 --> 00:04:06,480 Speaker 1: are terrible. Let's face it, there are so many out 73 00:04:06,520 --> 00:04:08,520 Speaker 1: there now. I mean, we're not paid to be someone's 74 00:04:08,560 --> 00:04:11,040 Speaker 1: English teacher. We don't have to pretend that every book 75 00:04:11,120 --> 00:04:15,400 Speaker 1: is amazing. The world is just lousy with books that 76 00:04:15,600 --> 00:04:17,560 Speaker 1: you know are not going to be your favorites. That 77 00:04:17,640 --> 00:04:20,760 Speaker 1: doesn't mean that they themselves are objectively bad, just means 78 00:04:20,800 --> 00:04:23,400 Speaker 1: they're not for you. And every so often you run 79 00:04:23,400 --> 00:04:26,120 Speaker 1: into something on the other side of the spectrum, a 80 00:04:26,240 --> 00:04:31,279 Speaker 1: book that is so amazing that you can't even hold 81 00:04:31,279 --> 00:04:34,640 Speaker 1: onto it because you continually give it to other people saying, 82 00:04:34,920 --> 00:04:37,599 Speaker 1: I want to please check this out. This reminds me 83 00:04:37,640 --> 00:04:40,320 Speaker 1: of you, or whatever you say, but it kind of 84 00:04:40,360 --> 00:04:44,040 Speaker 1: becomes a part of your worldview almost. Yeah. And the 85 00:04:44,080 --> 00:04:49,440 Speaker 1: Atlas of Remote Islands, which is more of a travel 86 00:04:49,520 --> 00:04:54,040 Speaker 1: log than an actual atlas. It's it's just this book 87 00:04:54,200 --> 00:04:59,000 Speaker 1: of fifty different, very small islands and a small one 88 00:04:59,040 --> 00:05:03,680 Speaker 1: to two paragraph story about their history. And while I 89 00:05:03,720 --> 00:05:07,919 Speaker 1: was reading this book, uh, at least the first time, 90 00:05:08,279 --> 00:05:12,280 Speaker 1: what I became really captivated by, were the islands in 91 00:05:12,520 --> 00:05:17,560 Speaker 1: the Southern Hemisphere, not just you know, the the scattering, uh, 92 00:05:17,720 --> 00:05:22,599 Speaker 1: sparsely populated tiny islands in uh, the oceanic area, but also, 93 00:05:23,360 --> 00:05:30,320 Speaker 1: and even more so, the inhospitable barren places. The closer 94 00:05:30,440 --> 00:05:34,440 Speaker 1: you get to Antarctica, the more it seems as though 95 00:05:35,200 --> 00:05:39,240 Speaker 1: the natural world is telling you turn back, you know. 96 00:05:39,600 --> 00:05:41,919 Speaker 1: And that's what we're talking about today. We were talking 97 00:05:41,920 --> 00:05:48,279 Speaker 1: about Antarctica, the most mysterious continent. Let's get to some 98 00:05:48,320 --> 00:05:51,360 Speaker 1: of the facts. So Antarctica is the fifth largest continent 99 00:05:51,440 --> 00:05:55,400 Speaker 1: in the world. It's roughly twice the size of Australia, which, 100 00:05:56,040 --> 00:05:58,800 Speaker 1: you know, Australia is pretty big everybody, So that's a 101 00:05:58,839 --> 00:06:03,359 Speaker 1: lot of ice covered lands. It's home to the world's 102 00:06:03,440 --> 00:06:08,960 Speaker 1: freshwater supply and of the world's freshwater ice. And this 103 00:06:09,000 --> 00:06:12,240 Speaker 1: place is really cool. It's currently the coldest and the 104 00:06:12,320 --> 00:06:17,680 Speaker 1: windiest continent. It also possession possesses the highest average elevation 105 00:06:18,120 --> 00:06:20,680 Speaker 1: of any continent, which is crazy. That just means it's 106 00:06:20,760 --> 00:06:25,240 Speaker 1: full of those mountains. Yeah, that's another that's another interesting thing. Yeah, 107 00:06:25,240 --> 00:06:30,799 Speaker 1: because of the land mass of Antarctica is covered with ice. 108 00:06:30,920 --> 00:06:33,480 Speaker 1: And if it didn't have the highest average elevation, if 109 00:06:33,480 --> 00:06:37,000 Speaker 1: it did not have those mountains, then it would probably 110 00:06:37,000 --> 00:06:41,280 Speaker 1: be a covered with ice. Well maybe ninety nine or something. 111 00:06:41,320 --> 00:06:43,040 Speaker 1: But just because there's still be some land on the 112 00:06:43,040 --> 00:06:48,200 Speaker 1: coast in some places, Matt, this ice is three miles 113 00:06:48,200 --> 00:06:53,880 Speaker 1: thick cheese. So, to paraphrase so many horror movies, what 114 00:06:54,080 --> 00:06:58,640 Speaker 1: lay beneath? We know relatively little about this, and this 115 00:06:58,680 --> 00:07:02,080 Speaker 1: week we looked what people might find beneath the ice 116 00:07:02,160 --> 00:07:05,520 Speaker 1: if it all melted away. The ice in Antarctica comes 117 00:07:05,520 --> 00:07:08,400 Speaker 1: in two large categories. There's the Western sheet, is the 118 00:07:08,440 --> 00:07:12,120 Speaker 1: Eastern sheet. It extends all across the land like some 119 00:07:12,240 --> 00:07:16,400 Speaker 1: curse in a medieval fairy tale, and also into the 120 00:07:16,520 --> 00:07:21,760 Speaker 1: surrounding ocean. So what we'd like to do is talk 121 00:07:21,800 --> 00:07:26,040 Speaker 1: a little bit about some of the fringe theories and 122 00:07:26,120 --> 00:07:30,600 Speaker 1: some of the concepts that you will here related to Antarctica, 123 00:07:30,760 --> 00:07:33,120 Speaker 1: and it touches on so many other things, some of 124 00:07:33,160 --> 00:07:35,800 Speaker 1: which we've covered before and a couple of which I 125 00:07:35,840 --> 00:07:39,480 Speaker 1: would consider our greatest hits. Are some of my favorite stories. Yes, 126 00:07:39,560 --> 00:07:42,160 Speaker 1: and one of those is climate change. This is one 127 00:07:42,240 --> 00:07:45,120 Speaker 1: that really gets our audience riled up one way or 128 00:07:45,160 --> 00:07:47,200 Speaker 1: the other. And you know what, I'm in a state 129 00:07:47,240 --> 00:07:50,320 Speaker 1: at this point, Ben, I'm just gonna say it. Climate 130 00:07:50,360 --> 00:07:53,360 Speaker 1: change is real. This stuff is getting out of hand 131 00:07:53,800 --> 00:07:57,720 Speaker 1: and we're all gonna die. Well, of course, climate change 132 00:07:57,760 --> 00:08:02,520 Speaker 1: is real because climates change over time. I think what 133 00:08:02,680 --> 00:08:07,440 Speaker 1: a man made climate change is our fault. And yeah, 134 00:08:07,480 --> 00:08:12,360 Speaker 1: the Anthropocene right, Uh, the it's it's an interesting thing 135 00:08:12,440 --> 00:08:14,640 Speaker 1: you can always I don't know. I think it's so 136 00:08:14,720 --> 00:08:19,320 Speaker 1: clever what people do in the sorts of televised debate 137 00:08:19,480 --> 00:08:23,360 Speaker 1: debates where it's uh, they do the thought terminating clichef 138 00:08:24,120 --> 00:08:27,560 Speaker 1: let's call it climate change. Uh. Like now as we're 139 00:08:27,560 --> 00:08:30,040 Speaker 1: recording this this week, one of the big things are 140 00:08:30,600 --> 00:08:33,800 Speaker 1: the big things in international affairs would be uh, the 141 00:08:33,840 --> 00:08:38,320 Speaker 1: Iranian nuclear deal, and everyone's like nuclear deal, nuclear deal, 142 00:08:38,440 --> 00:08:42,720 Speaker 1: nuclear deal. But you have to dig yourself to find 143 00:08:42,760 --> 00:08:45,680 Speaker 1: the exact details. You have to you have to go 144 00:08:45,840 --> 00:08:49,240 Speaker 1: onto the internet and search. The mainstream news is not 145 00:08:49,320 --> 00:08:52,920 Speaker 1: really say, telling the details of stuff. And you know 146 00:08:52,920 --> 00:08:55,960 Speaker 1: what else just while wama rant here and this is 147 00:08:56,000 --> 00:09:02,040 Speaker 1: just gonna be so brief. Look, I understand when people 148 00:09:03,120 --> 00:09:09,760 Speaker 1: get very very emotional and angry about their their opinion 149 00:09:09,840 --> 00:09:11,760 Speaker 1: or what they see as the facts. Right when someone 150 00:09:11,920 --> 00:09:14,240 Speaker 1: because we get letters all the time, when someone says, well, 151 00:09:14,920 --> 00:09:20,559 Speaker 1: climate change, you know again another buzzword, right, because what 152 00:09:20,559 --> 00:09:27,000 Speaker 1: we're talking about is much more intricate, much more widespread, 153 00:09:27,440 --> 00:09:31,959 Speaker 1: specific things that are occurring right exactly, Uh, ocean acidification, 154 00:09:32,040 --> 00:09:37,080 Speaker 1: stuff like that, things that have been proven right, right, 155 00:09:37,200 --> 00:09:40,040 Speaker 1: and people were really arguing over the degree of it 156 00:09:40,160 --> 00:09:43,760 Speaker 1: and the cause of it. But just throwing buzzwords at people, 157 00:09:44,080 --> 00:09:47,040 Speaker 1: um kind of hacks the brain to get past the 158 00:09:47,120 --> 00:09:52,199 Speaker 1: cognitive ability and straight into the primitive reptile brain stuff 159 00:09:52,480 --> 00:09:55,720 Speaker 1: where all of a sudden, the person who believes climate 160 00:09:55,800 --> 00:10:02,600 Speaker 1: changes um not man made or believes you know that, uh, 161 00:10:02,640 --> 00:10:07,920 Speaker 1: some great lizard Messiah is going to emerge from a 162 00:10:08,000 --> 00:10:12,000 Speaker 1: volcano beneath the ocean. Whatever I'm saying, it doesn't matter 163 00:10:12,320 --> 00:10:14,439 Speaker 1: what people believe. It matters how you believe, and now 164 00:10:14,440 --> 00:10:17,960 Speaker 1: you support that belief. And it makes me, It makes 165 00:10:17,960 --> 00:10:25,920 Speaker 1: me just somewhere between um derisively, amused, and uh, incredibly 166 00:10:26,000 --> 00:10:31,080 Speaker 1: sad when I see people get super super emotional about 167 00:10:31,080 --> 00:10:33,880 Speaker 1: a thing and think that, you know, if I yell 168 00:10:33,920 --> 00:10:37,080 Speaker 1: at this person enough, if I am just angry enough, 169 00:10:37,640 --> 00:10:39,280 Speaker 1: then it don't matter. And then at that point you 170 00:10:39,320 --> 00:10:41,280 Speaker 1: have to ask yourself, are you trying to persuade that 171 00:10:41,320 --> 00:10:43,360 Speaker 1: person or you just trying to like get caught up 172 00:10:43,400 --> 00:10:47,000 Speaker 1: in a pitchfork party? Yeah? Or are you trying to 173 00:10:47,080 --> 00:10:52,240 Speaker 1: express your belief hard enough or reinforce your belief by yelling? 174 00:10:52,480 --> 00:10:55,440 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, Yeah, that's we should look at those, 175 00:10:55,559 --> 00:10:59,520 Speaker 1: uh psychological phenomenon to you know. That's when uh a 176 00:10:59,520 --> 00:11:03,360 Speaker 1: little bit inside baseball here. That's one show that I 177 00:11:03,480 --> 00:11:06,559 Speaker 1: pitched for brain Stuff. It's another show I do, and 178 00:11:06,679 --> 00:11:11,400 Speaker 1: they after we discussed it with the production team and stuff, 179 00:11:11,440 --> 00:11:13,800 Speaker 1: they didn't want me to do this episode, but it 180 00:11:13,880 --> 00:11:16,199 Speaker 1: was why you can't win an argument on the Internet, 181 00:11:16,480 --> 00:11:20,160 Speaker 1: And that's a great episode. Thanks, why don't we do it? Yeah? 182 00:11:21,559 --> 00:11:26,319 Speaker 1: But but okay, so aside from that that rant there, uh, 183 00:11:26,520 --> 00:11:33,120 Speaker 1: the forces of climate change clearly have impacted the planet 184 00:11:33,160 --> 00:11:36,199 Speaker 1: and are continuing apace. And we'll talk a little bit 185 00:11:36,280 --> 00:11:39,880 Speaker 1: now about the thing you were about to bring up, 186 00:11:39,920 --> 00:11:42,640 Speaker 1: because you can't talk about Antarctica without talking about ice, 187 00:11:42,679 --> 00:11:44,920 Speaker 1: and you can't talk about large amounts of ice without 188 00:11:44,920 --> 00:11:48,640 Speaker 1: talking about climate change. Right, yeah, So so with climate change, 189 00:11:48,800 --> 00:11:51,800 Speaker 1: we're we're talking about several things that really are happening. 190 00:11:51,880 --> 00:11:55,520 Speaker 1: Like I kind of mentioned earlier, sea levels really are rising, 191 00:11:56,000 --> 00:11:58,079 Speaker 1: and they're going to rise more in the future, or 192 00:11:58,080 --> 00:12:00,720 Speaker 1: at least they are projected to do so. Now, you 193 00:12:00,800 --> 00:12:05,319 Speaker 1: might also hear people claiming that Antarctica loses ice at 194 00:12:05,360 --> 00:12:09,000 Speaker 1: sometimes and then it gains it back at other times. 195 00:12:09,040 --> 00:12:12,600 Speaker 1: But there's a little bit of a discrepancy there. So 196 00:12:13,559 --> 00:12:15,520 Speaker 1: the whole thing, this whole idea hinges on a bit 197 00:12:15,520 --> 00:12:19,560 Speaker 1: of a misunderstanding. I think think of ice in Antarctica 198 00:12:19,760 --> 00:12:21,800 Speaker 1: as coming in two different types. So you've got your 199 00:12:21,840 --> 00:12:25,400 Speaker 1: land ice and you've got your sea ice. Now, the 200 00:12:25,440 --> 00:12:28,959 Speaker 1: sea ice itself is seasonal. It grows in the winter 201 00:12:29,040 --> 00:12:32,800 Speaker 1: as it gets colder, then it recedes just a little 202 00:12:32,800 --> 00:12:35,680 Speaker 1: bit in as it gets warmer. Or I mean it 203 00:12:35,720 --> 00:12:39,040 Speaker 1: can disappear almost completely over summer, but it's still it's 204 00:12:39,080 --> 00:12:43,000 Speaker 1: still always there. It just uh, it's kind of like 205 00:12:43,080 --> 00:12:47,120 Speaker 1: a if I make a bad comparison. Uh, it's kind 206 00:12:47,120 --> 00:12:51,600 Speaker 1: of like a person who maybe gains and loses weight 207 00:12:51,679 --> 00:12:54,920 Speaker 1: very easily. They have variations of weight. Yeah, there's a range. 208 00:12:54,920 --> 00:12:58,280 Speaker 1: There's essentially a range of weight. Yeah, and ice that 209 00:12:58,360 --> 00:13:01,560 Speaker 1: Antarctica takes on during the winder an't already gets some 210 00:13:01,600 --> 00:13:07,000 Speaker 1: water weight. Okay with that, Yeah, but like you were saying, 211 00:13:07,040 --> 00:13:09,680 Speaker 1: there's a there's a different kind of ice, right, Yeah, 212 00:13:09,720 --> 00:13:13,240 Speaker 1: the land the land ice is is very different. This stuff. 213 00:13:14,040 --> 00:13:19,120 Speaker 1: It acres slowly over time and it here's the problem, 214 00:13:19,240 --> 00:13:21,760 Speaker 1: is disappearing. Now you have to imagine that the land, 215 00:13:21,840 --> 00:13:25,559 Speaker 1: the ice that's on land, as it is melting, it's 216 00:13:26,360 --> 00:13:31,280 Speaker 1: increasing the amount of water, of liquid water that's in 217 00:13:31,400 --> 00:13:36,680 Speaker 1: the seas, right, because the amount of frozen water already 218 00:13:36,800 --> 00:13:39,040 Speaker 1: in the sea is part of the volume of the 219 00:13:39,080 --> 00:13:45,040 Speaker 1: ocean the sea were talking about. So let's let's advance 220 00:13:45,160 --> 00:13:47,640 Speaker 1: this further because there are probably some people who already 221 00:13:47,640 --> 00:13:50,560 Speaker 1: saying no, no, no, you totally don't get it. Well, 222 00:13:50,679 --> 00:13:52,720 Speaker 1: we have a we have a plot twist here that 223 00:13:53,000 --> 00:13:55,760 Speaker 1: a lot of people might not be aware of. This 224 00:13:56,640 --> 00:14:02,480 Speaker 1: change in land ice cannot be attributed solely to a 225 00:14:02,559 --> 00:14:07,800 Speaker 1: changing climate. For instance, look at Waite's Glacier. It's this large, 226 00:14:07,880 --> 00:14:11,959 Speaker 1: rapidly changing outlet of the West Antarctic ice sheet, and 227 00:14:12,160 --> 00:14:15,800 Speaker 1: it's it's being eroded by the ocean, sure, of course, 228 00:14:16,200 --> 00:14:21,280 Speaker 1: but it's also being melted by a different, uh different thing, yeah, 229 00:14:21,400 --> 00:14:24,960 Speaker 1: from below, from the geothermal heat that's being forced up 230 00:14:25,000 --> 00:14:28,560 Speaker 1: through it. And that that to me, Ben presents a 231 00:14:28,560 --> 00:14:34,120 Speaker 1: whole another issue. Yeah, whole, another whole other uh box 232 00:14:34,200 --> 00:14:37,440 Speaker 1: carve badgers, Yes, the box car badgers that are heating 233 00:14:37,520 --> 00:14:39,600 Speaker 1: up the earth from the inside. What's going on? Been 234 00:14:39,720 --> 00:14:45,080 Speaker 1: a whole another boot of birds, bag of yeah, uh, 235 00:14:45,760 --> 00:14:49,880 Speaker 1: can of chinchilla's. I could do this all day, Okay, 236 00:14:49,960 --> 00:14:52,560 Speaker 1: So yeah that you can check out the study by 237 00:14:52,560 --> 00:14:55,560 Speaker 1: researchers at the Institute for Geophysics at the University of 238 00:14:55,600 --> 00:14:58,880 Speaker 1: Texas at Austin or U T I G for those 239 00:14:58,880 --> 00:15:01,240 Speaker 1: of you who love an acronym, and that is in 240 00:15:01,320 --> 00:15:05,440 Speaker 1: a journal called the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences. 241 00:15:05,520 --> 00:15:10,760 Speaker 1: So they found they found that despite the popular debate, 242 00:15:10,920 --> 00:15:14,240 Speaker 1: as usually happens, there are other factors at play, and 243 00:15:14,280 --> 00:15:16,880 Speaker 1: it's not just a yes or no thing. It turns 244 00:15:16,880 --> 00:15:22,000 Speaker 1: out that geo thermal energy is our geo thermal heat 245 00:15:22,120 --> 00:15:26,880 Speaker 1: rather is changing the nature of the continent. And one 246 00:15:26,920 --> 00:15:29,960 Speaker 1: thing we should say about Antarctica, the history of Antarctica 247 00:15:30,080 --> 00:15:34,520 Speaker 1: that's just amazing is um it. It's only been an 248 00:15:34,560 --> 00:15:38,400 Speaker 1: ice covered continent for about thirty five million years, which 249 00:15:38,440 --> 00:15:40,440 Speaker 1: sounds a bit long in the tooth for us, but 250 00:15:40,600 --> 00:15:44,280 Speaker 1: in the grand scheme of things, that's like that's a 251 00:15:44,360 --> 00:15:48,040 Speaker 1: bad weekend, right and uh, and it could totally come back. 252 00:15:48,120 --> 00:15:50,120 Speaker 1: It used to be a subtropical thing that looked a 253 00:15:50,120 --> 00:15:52,960 Speaker 1: lot like the modern day of Pacific Northwest for anyone 254 00:15:53,000 --> 00:15:57,680 Speaker 1: who's been there, cool beautiful place. People still aren't sure 255 00:15:58,520 --> 00:16:02,240 Speaker 1: what happened thirty million years ago, because apparently, just in 256 00:16:02,280 --> 00:16:07,240 Speaker 1: the scheme of things, the way this ice across the 257 00:16:07,320 --> 00:16:11,120 Speaker 1: land and covered the place happened very quickly. So we 258 00:16:11,160 --> 00:16:14,040 Speaker 1: don't know. We don't know what happened, and we don't 259 00:16:14,040 --> 00:16:19,480 Speaker 1: know exactly how Antarctica works. For lack of a better phrase, 260 00:16:20,480 --> 00:16:23,200 Speaker 1: we're not for lack of trying, though we've set up 261 00:16:23,640 --> 00:16:26,920 Speaker 1: we the human species has set up research facilities across 262 00:16:27,000 --> 00:16:30,120 Speaker 1: the land in a couple of places. You know. One 263 00:16:30,120 --> 00:16:32,840 Speaker 1: of the things that I found really interesting was who 264 00:16:32,880 --> 00:16:37,080 Speaker 1: owns Antarctica? Yes, yes, yes, And when you look online 265 00:16:37,080 --> 00:16:41,160 Speaker 1: you can find the maps of the segments that Antarctic 266 00:16:41,240 --> 00:16:42,960 Speaker 1: the way it's split up, because it goes from the 267 00:16:43,000 --> 00:16:45,960 Speaker 1: South Pole or the UM. I think it's the actual 268 00:16:46,040 --> 00:16:48,080 Speaker 1: I don't. I can't remember if it's the actual South 269 00:16:48,160 --> 00:16:52,520 Speaker 1: Pole or the magnetics. Yeah, I think it's the ceremonial 270 00:16:53,520 --> 00:16:57,440 Speaker 1: South Pole. You're talking about the Antarctic Treaty right, Yes, 271 00:16:57,680 --> 00:17:02,120 Speaker 1: signed in Washington on in December of nineteen fifty nine 272 00:17:02,520 --> 00:17:05,959 Speaker 1: by twelve countries who the people who signed it were 273 00:17:06,000 --> 00:17:08,760 Speaker 1: just the twelve countries whose scientists have been futs and 274 00:17:08,840 --> 00:17:12,640 Speaker 1: around down there. They were. They were active during what's 275 00:17:12,680 --> 00:17:16,640 Speaker 1: called the International Geophysical Year of fifty seven and fifty eight. 276 00:17:17,600 --> 00:17:20,040 Speaker 1: So it but it's really cool. Looks like a PI 277 00:17:20,560 --> 00:17:23,000 Speaker 1: pie chart. Yeah, yeah, yeah, with all the flags arranged 278 00:17:23,040 --> 00:17:27,840 Speaker 1: around it. Yeah. The treaty itself is something that UM 279 00:17:27,960 --> 00:17:30,520 Speaker 1: we can talk about in detail. Do you want to 280 00:17:30,560 --> 00:17:31,840 Speaker 1: do it now or do you want to do it later? 281 00:17:31,960 --> 00:17:33,480 Speaker 1: We can do it, we can do it, Let's do 282 00:17:33,520 --> 00:17:36,159 Speaker 1: it later. Either way, I'm sorry. I just kept thinking 283 00:17:36,320 --> 00:17:40,840 Speaker 1: imagining who actually gets to study which parts, and and 284 00:17:41,200 --> 00:17:44,639 Speaker 1: if you're going to get different research on the northeastern side, 285 00:17:44,760 --> 00:17:47,960 Speaker 1: that's very different from the research you get on the southwest. 286 00:17:48,320 --> 00:17:51,159 Speaker 1: Even if there's there's like a good neighborhood of Antarctico. 287 00:17:51,520 --> 00:17:54,879 Speaker 1: Maybe I don't know. I imagine if you're a biologist, 288 00:17:54,920 --> 00:17:58,359 Speaker 1: that answers absolutely true. Um, I guess it depends on 289 00:17:58,400 --> 00:18:01,840 Speaker 1: your field of study. Right. Sure. You know a while 290 00:18:01,880 --> 00:18:05,040 Speaker 1: ago there was an expedition that you and I talked 291 00:18:05,080 --> 00:18:07,720 Speaker 1: about a few years back. Um, actually we should get 292 00:18:07,720 --> 00:18:11,080 Speaker 1: into that later later. Sorry spoiler alert anyway, just to 293 00:18:11,080 --> 00:18:14,439 Speaker 1: sew it up. Geo thermal energy, If human beings build 294 00:18:14,560 --> 00:18:18,119 Speaker 1: permanent settlements on the continent of Antarctica and get rid 295 00:18:18,160 --> 00:18:22,439 Speaker 1: of the ice and yes, yes, before the emails come in. 296 00:18:23,080 --> 00:18:27,400 Speaker 1: By permanent settlement, I mean like a nation state or colony. 297 00:18:27,480 --> 00:18:31,800 Speaker 1: I don't mean a research center, which is a beautiful thing, 298 00:18:32,000 --> 00:18:35,320 Speaker 1: but does not a country make. And uh, the but 299 00:18:35,400 --> 00:18:39,639 Speaker 1: if if people ended up actually living an Antarctica, the 300 00:18:41,119 --> 00:18:45,160 Speaker 1: if we're gonna be nationalistic the U s A A yes, wait, 301 00:18:45,200 --> 00:18:51,680 Speaker 1: I think that's already an insurance. Yeah, USA just buys Antarctica, 302 00:18:52,040 --> 00:18:57,800 Speaker 1: UM or some other large corporation Google owns Antarctica. So anyway, 303 00:18:58,160 --> 00:19:02,040 Speaker 1: these people could easily end up powering their society by 304 00:19:02,119 --> 00:19:04,960 Speaker 1: geo thermal energy, which sounds like science fiction, but it's 305 00:19:04,960 --> 00:19:09,280 Speaker 1: totally possible. I am now imagining the a country that 306 00:19:09,359 --> 00:19:13,080 Speaker 1: goes through and just burrows through the three miles of ice, 307 00:19:13,760 --> 00:19:17,320 Speaker 1: makes giant walls to keep the ice away, and has 308 00:19:17,359 --> 00:19:20,800 Speaker 1: a civilization that's kind of surrounded by these ice walls. 309 00:19:20,800 --> 00:19:25,160 Speaker 1: Oh right, living inside the walls of the canyon, similar 310 00:19:25,200 --> 00:19:28,920 Speaker 1: to um the similar to the Native American groups. Yeah, 311 00:19:29,560 --> 00:19:34,119 Speaker 1: so the thing is, it's not science fiction. It's happening now, 312 00:19:34,240 --> 00:19:38,840 Speaker 1: just in a different country. Oh, Iceland is not the 313 00:19:38,840 --> 00:19:43,000 Speaker 1: big ice walls, but Iceland. Iceland derives the majority of 314 00:19:43,040 --> 00:19:48,040 Speaker 1: its power from geothermal energy. So it's so it's completely possible. 315 00:19:48,560 --> 00:19:51,240 Speaker 1: But it's also true that the nuances of anti the 316 00:19:51,359 --> 00:19:59,080 Speaker 1: Antarctic climates or the long term effects are still largely there. 317 00:19:59,119 --> 00:20:02,440 Speaker 1: There's still some quite to answer, just because this geothermal 318 00:20:02,480 --> 00:20:07,760 Speaker 1: stuff is relatively recent at least our understanding of it 319 00:20:08,000 --> 00:20:11,200 Speaker 1: and the effects of this, the long term effects kind 320 00:20:11,200 --> 00:20:14,159 Speaker 1: of anybody's guess. We we still don't exactly know, you 321 00:20:14,200 --> 00:20:16,680 Speaker 1: know what happened thirty five million years ago. We're catching up. 322 00:20:16,800 --> 00:20:22,840 Speaker 1: We're like people who started watching Seinfeld today. Oh no kidding, 323 00:20:23,800 --> 00:20:25,679 Speaker 1: Oh but there there's so much to learn though, at 324 00:20:25,760 --> 00:20:29,560 Speaker 1: least and and being there's so much to enjoy. Yeah, 325 00:20:29,800 --> 00:20:32,680 Speaker 1: okay that in that case, the comparison holds. I'm just 326 00:20:32,680 --> 00:20:34,800 Speaker 1: a little bit sour about it because you know, I 327 00:20:34,920 --> 00:20:37,960 Speaker 1: had never really watched a lot of a lot of 328 00:20:37,960 --> 00:20:42,119 Speaker 1: that stuff, and then I ended up I just started 329 00:20:42,119 --> 00:20:44,920 Speaker 1: watching it. I'm still in that moment where I realized 330 00:20:44,960 --> 00:20:47,800 Speaker 1: that all four of the main characters problems could be 331 00:20:47,840 --> 00:20:52,280 Speaker 1: solved by having a cell phone. Oh wow, that's true, 332 00:20:52,560 --> 00:20:56,200 Speaker 1: if they were able to just communicate immediately, if they well, 333 00:20:56,240 --> 00:20:58,080 Speaker 1: it's it seems like a lot of the things are 334 00:20:58,119 --> 00:21:04,000 Speaker 1: based on yeah, uh yeah, Harold structure and improv or something. 335 00:21:04,280 --> 00:21:07,280 Speaker 1: Oh that's why. Oh my gosh, Ben, I never thought 336 00:21:07,320 --> 00:21:10,840 Speaker 1: about that before. That's huge, is it. I'm sure that 337 00:21:10,920 --> 00:21:14,960 Speaker 1: somebody else's I'm sure, I'm sure, but thank you. I 338 00:21:15,000 --> 00:21:17,000 Speaker 1: went to uh, I went to New York and saw 339 00:21:17,080 --> 00:21:20,080 Speaker 1: the not not for this thing, but you know, I 340 00:21:20,160 --> 00:21:24,159 Speaker 1: was traveling and as as you know, Matt, we we 341 00:21:24,240 --> 00:21:30,280 Speaker 1: saw the Seinfeld apartment. Uh, And it was just something 342 00:21:30,359 --> 00:21:34,760 Speaker 1: that it's just something that TV company made too as 343 00:21:34,760 --> 00:21:38,479 Speaker 1: a recreation. But I always startled that so many people 344 00:21:38,640 --> 00:21:41,960 Speaker 1: like the show. There are people around the block, down 345 00:21:42,000 --> 00:21:44,760 Speaker 1: the street to a different street. It is very crazy. 346 00:21:44,880 --> 00:21:46,560 Speaker 1: I don't know if it was just the neighborhood or 347 00:21:46,600 --> 00:21:49,040 Speaker 1: if it's that popular. It was a big deal. My 348 00:21:49,040 --> 00:21:51,840 Speaker 1: my parents liked it a lot. I'm gonna feel strange 349 00:21:51,840 --> 00:21:57,080 Speaker 1: if I ever have to meet uh Uh Seinfeld, Jerry 350 00:21:57,320 --> 00:22:00,000 Speaker 1: Jerry Seinfeld, Larry David, if I ever have to meet them, 351 00:22:00,000 --> 00:22:02,000 Speaker 1: because I don't know. I don't know. I guess I 352 00:22:02,119 --> 00:22:04,399 Speaker 1: just like, hey, guys, Uh, I understand your show is 353 00:22:04,480 --> 00:22:07,280 Speaker 1: quite popular, and I don't think we're ever gonna meet 354 00:22:07,320 --> 00:22:12,680 Speaker 1: the congratulations. Who knows they might be listening now anyway. Anyhow, 355 00:22:13,160 --> 00:22:16,080 Speaker 1: tangents abound in this episode. Let's move to one of 356 00:22:16,280 --> 00:22:19,640 Speaker 1: the Let's let's cut straight to the chase, one of 357 00:22:19,720 --> 00:22:23,080 Speaker 1: the episodes we did early on in our career together. 358 00:22:24,800 --> 00:22:28,719 Speaker 1: Nazis in the Hollow Earth. Yes, the idea of that perhaps, 359 00:22:29,040 --> 00:22:32,440 Speaker 1: or there is the idea that there is a civilization 360 00:22:32,520 --> 00:22:37,400 Speaker 1: that exists below the crust of the earth. And as 361 00:22:37,440 --> 00:22:39,919 Speaker 1: crazy as it sounds that there is some type of 362 00:22:40,000 --> 00:22:45,320 Speaker 1: inner star that powers the civilization beneath us, and there's 363 00:22:45,359 --> 00:22:48,960 Speaker 1: a powerful civilization that can that the Nazis at least 364 00:22:49,359 --> 00:22:52,159 Speaker 1: thought perhaps a small group of the Nazis, Yeah, I 365 00:22:52,280 --> 00:22:56,000 Speaker 1: thought could come up, come out from the bowels of 366 00:22:56,000 --> 00:23:00,360 Speaker 1: the earth and help them win their battles. Because as 367 00:23:00,440 --> 00:23:06,240 Speaker 1: the National Socialists, these factions of National Socialist ak Nazis today, um, 368 00:23:06,320 --> 00:23:13,400 Speaker 1: as they new with a strange and mystic religious certitude, 369 00:23:14,400 --> 00:23:19,040 Speaker 1: these uh, these denizens of the inner world were also 370 00:23:20,720 --> 00:23:24,639 Speaker 1: totally totally arian, Yeah, yeah, totally and down for the 371 00:23:24,680 --> 00:23:28,600 Speaker 1: cause right right, and cared about what was happening between 372 00:23:28,960 --> 00:23:33,880 Speaker 1: in these political political maneuvers. So well we did find 373 00:23:33,920 --> 00:23:35,199 Speaker 1: with that, and you can check out our video on 374 00:23:35,200 --> 00:23:40,520 Speaker 1: the topic, is that, uh, it is true. You know 375 00:23:40,640 --> 00:23:43,480 Speaker 1: that that stuff you see on the History Channel can 376 00:23:43,560 --> 00:23:47,800 Speaker 1: be often disingenuous, but it is true that factions of 377 00:23:47,840 --> 00:23:51,680 Speaker 1: the Nazi Party had an intense belief in the occult, 378 00:23:52,440 --> 00:23:59,560 Speaker 1: which we've talked about with Zaan nimberbt right, yeah, and uh, 379 00:24:00,119 --> 00:24:03,320 Speaker 1: the belief in real and trying to reconstruct this new mythology. 380 00:24:03,400 --> 00:24:09,280 Speaker 1: And there really were um, there really were government financed 381 00:24:09,520 --> 00:24:13,600 Speaker 1: quests to find things like these hidden mystical lands like 382 00:24:13,840 --> 00:24:19,040 Speaker 1: Shambala cheng La and or in the case of Antarctica 383 00:24:19,200 --> 00:24:23,359 Speaker 1: and entrance to the underworld. Yes, yeah, and there was 384 00:24:23,640 --> 00:24:28,480 Speaker 1: um there was actually a plan to colonize part of 385 00:24:28,560 --> 00:24:36,399 Speaker 1: Antarctica as a means of expanding the German wailing industry 386 00:24:36,440 --> 00:24:41,400 Speaker 1: at the time. And that leads to at least supposedly, yeah, 387 00:24:41,480 --> 00:24:45,480 Speaker 1: right in new Swabia. But as we as we learned, 388 00:24:46,520 --> 00:24:49,080 Speaker 1: and as you can see if if you look into 389 00:24:49,280 --> 00:24:55,000 Speaker 1: some of the historical documents available, uh, no one, no 390 00:24:55,040 --> 00:24:59,000 Speaker 1: one found any entrance. And that's not to say there's 391 00:24:59,000 --> 00:25:04,159 Speaker 1: not an extensive, if possible, cave system in Antarctica. I 392 00:25:04,200 --> 00:25:06,119 Speaker 1: would say they're most definitely is just because of the 393 00:25:06,160 --> 00:25:10,480 Speaker 1: ice over time and then refreezing, the melting and refreezing 394 00:25:10,640 --> 00:25:13,920 Speaker 1: the way caves form. Oh yeah, yeah, So there might 395 00:25:13,960 --> 00:25:18,679 Speaker 1: be something there, but we have at this point we 396 00:25:18,760 --> 00:25:22,479 Speaker 1: have little evidence of We we know a little bit 397 00:25:22,520 --> 00:25:25,520 Speaker 1: about what kind of life might be there, but we 398 00:25:25,600 --> 00:25:28,760 Speaker 1: know very little about it. We do also have another 399 00:25:28,760 --> 00:25:30,520 Speaker 1: thing that we should bring up, and I think we 400 00:25:30,560 --> 00:25:33,000 Speaker 1: did an episode on this to Matt, this belief in 401 00:25:34,320 --> 00:25:38,960 Speaker 1: the the National Socialist Nazi Party exploring and attempting to 402 00:25:38,960 --> 00:25:44,240 Speaker 1: take over Antarctica ties in with a little known story 403 00:25:44,320 --> 00:25:50,840 Speaker 1: in US history as well. Right, ah, Operation high Jump? Yes? 404 00:25:51,080 --> 00:25:54,080 Speaker 1: Are we we chased them? Or we we at least 405 00:25:54,080 --> 00:25:58,840 Speaker 1: followed the Nazis down towards Antarctica? Let's do well, let's 406 00:25:58,840 --> 00:26:00,800 Speaker 1: do the movie version of that. How would you how 407 00:26:00,840 --> 00:26:02,480 Speaker 1: would you say them? If you were if you were 408 00:26:02,520 --> 00:26:06,399 Speaker 1: pitching the movie version of Operation to High Jump? How 409 00:26:06,440 --> 00:26:08,920 Speaker 1: would you? How would you pitch it to me? Okay, 410 00:26:09,359 --> 00:26:12,920 Speaker 1: like we're in the elevator. We I've got five seconds 411 00:26:13,000 --> 00:26:15,160 Speaker 1: before we get to next Yeah, I'll help you pitch 412 00:26:15,240 --> 00:26:18,399 Speaker 1: to Let's say Noel Is. Uh, Noel Is, who's a 413 00:26:18,400 --> 00:26:21,600 Speaker 1: good director. Who's the director that you would other than nol? 414 00:26:21,640 --> 00:26:23,240 Speaker 1: He has to be someone else. Oh, and he has 415 00:26:23,280 --> 00:26:28,600 Speaker 1: to be someone else. Let's go with Michael Bay. No. 416 00:26:29,640 --> 00:26:32,359 Speaker 1: I mean I could see him being able to sell 417 00:26:32,400 --> 00:26:36,840 Speaker 1: this movie though. Oh god, yeah, let's do Bay. He 418 00:26:36,840 --> 00:26:40,040 Speaker 1: could sell this. Okay. So if we're pitching Operation High 419 00:26:40,080 --> 00:26:44,080 Speaker 1: Jump to Michael Bay, what will we say? All right, 420 00:26:44,119 --> 00:26:46,760 Speaker 1: this is how we go? All right, sub Bay? So 421 00:26:46,880 --> 00:26:48,680 Speaker 1: check this out. I got this idea for a movie, 422 00:26:48,840 --> 00:26:53,560 Speaker 1: I think, Uh. United States Military Navy giant ships. Right 423 00:26:53,800 --> 00:26:57,479 Speaker 1: then you've got Nazi ships too, right, so there there 424 00:26:57,520 --> 00:27:01,040 Speaker 1: this one section Nazi ships, United States and other ships 425 00:27:01,440 --> 00:27:05,440 Speaker 1: heading towards Antarctica. Right then they get into these battles. 426 00:27:05,760 --> 00:27:07,920 Speaker 1: Were well, we're gonna make them get into battles because 427 00:27:08,000 --> 00:27:12,480 Speaker 1: we need explosions, right right, bay, Okay, so what else? Oh? 428 00:27:12,720 --> 00:27:14,919 Speaker 1: This was? Yeah, this is good. I think that. I 429 00:27:14,960 --> 00:27:17,200 Speaker 1: think he would go, um, all right, it'stop you have 430 00:27:17,280 --> 00:27:23,800 Speaker 1: any explosions and naval ships. Now can these ships transform? Yeah? 431 00:27:23,800 --> 00:27:27,440 Speaker 1: I didn't. The battleship I don't remember who did. Battleship 432 00:27:27,480 --> 00:27:31,880 Speaker 1: was Oliver Stone? Oh god, I don't think. All right, yeah, 433 00:27:31,880 --> 00:27:34,880 Speaker 1: it's it's if we were doing that in a world 434 00:27:35,400 --> 00:27:38,640 Speaker 1: kind of kind of intro, we could tell some great 435 00:27:38,680 --> 00:27:41,720 Speaker 1: stories about high Operational High Jump. The thing is they 436 00:27:41,760 --> 00:27:46,320 Speaker 1: would not be the truth. Wicked Leaks has been involved 437 00:27:46,400 --> 00:27:50,880 Speaker 1: in in bringing up bringing up some documents related to 438 00:27:51,520 --> 00:27:54,880 Speaker 1: the activities at the time. So first let's talk about 439 00:27:54,880 --> 00:27:59,320 Speaker 1: what Operation High Jump actually was supposed to be. It 440 00:27:59,400 --> 00:28:02,560 Speaker 1: was led by I named Richard E. Byrd. He was 441 00:28:02,600 --> 00:28:06,160 Speaker 1: a rear admiral of the U. S. Navy, and their 442 00:28:06,240 --> 00:28:10,919 Speaker 1: mission was to establish a research base. Their official mission 443 00:28:11,359 --> 00:28:16,359 Speaker 1: with the charming name of Little America for I don't know, 444 00:28:16,920 --> 00:28:20,119 Speaker 1: Little America for that that's gonna be look look interesting 445 00:28:20,160 --> 00:28:25,119 Speaker 1: on a postcard, right, And so, according to the official 446 00:28:25,320 --> 00:28:28,359 Speaker 1: Navy Naval Report, at least they had objectives. They had 447 00:28:28,400 --> 00:28:31,679 Speaker 1: six objectives. The second of those was this idea of 448 00:28:31,920 --> 00:28:37,080 Speaker 1: consolidating and extending severnty over as much of Antarctic as 449 00:28:37,160 --> 00:28:40,640 Speaker 1: they could make sense. That's what we do, That's what Yeah, 450 00:28:40,720 --> 00:28:43,880 Speaker 1: that's what people in general seemed to be quite fond of. 451 00:28:44,320 --> 00:28:49,680 Speaker 1: But the the Wicked Leaks reports seemed to seem to 452 00:28:49,720 --> 00:28:55,960 Speaker 1: prove that the underlying motivation for this was not so 453 00:28:56,080 --> 00:29:05,479 Speaker 1: much the uh National Socialist Party but the Soviet Party. 454 00:29:05,560 --> 00:29:08,800 Speaker 1: The the USS are because Operation high Jump occurred in 455 00:29:08,960 --> 00:29:14,040 Speaker 1: forty six and forty seven, so that would be after 456 00:29:14,360 --> 00:29:18,960 Speaker 1: World War right after World War two, has concluded. And 457 00:29:20,440 --> 00:29:23,400 Speaker 1: the reason the theory that we've we've often heard is 458 00:29:23,440 --> 00:29:26,720 Speaker 1: that while uh Nazis regrouped to a secret place in 459 00:29:26,720 --> 00:29:30,680 Speaker 1: your Swabia and Operation high Jump was part of a 460 00:29:30,760 --> 00:29:36,360 Speaker 1: secret war, a secret atomic war or something. But what 461 00:29:36,520 --> 00:29:40,400 Speaker 1: it seems to be more of is more evidence that 462 00:29:41,280 --> 00:29:45,680 Speaker 1: immediately after World War Two, the Cold War began, even 463 00:29:45,800 --> 00:29:49,320 Speaker 1: before it ended right right even before it ended, and 464 00:29:49,360 --> 00:29:53,480 Speaker 1: they're they're different. Um, there are different interpretations of that. 465 00:29:54,120 --> 00:29:57,880 Speaker 1: I'll probably go on to Facebook and Twitter where you 466 00:29:57,920 --> 00:30:02,000 Speaker 1: can follow us a conspiracy stuff. Yeah, and UH dropped 467 00:30:02,080 --> 00:30:05,000 Speaker 1: the links for anybody who wants to check out more 468 00:30:05,320 --> 00:30:08,200 Speaker 1: at least of what Wicked Leaks has to say regarding 469 00:30:08,320 --> 00:30:11,720 Speaker 1: Operation High Jump. Now we get to one of the 470 00:30:11,720 --> 00:30:18,240 Speaker 1: most exciting things, the most exciting thing about this stuff. 471 00:30:19,880 --> 00:30:25,240 Speaker 1: People found fossils into Antarctica. So I smelts, what else 472 00:30:25,240 --> 00:30:27,400 Speaker 1: are we gonna find? What other kind of life is 473 00:30:27,440 --> 00:30:31,720 Speaker 1: going to be there, like living life or just more fossils. Well, 474 00:30:31,800 --> 00:30:35,200 Speaker 1: we know that all the fossils that have been found 475 00:30:35,640 --> 00:30:37,640 Speaker 1: so far, at least all the big ones. When you're 476 00:30:37,680 --> 00:30:42,400 Speaker 1: thinking of you know, large flora and fauna, Uh, dinosaurs, 477 00:30:42,640 --> 00:30:45,160 Speaker 1: I'll just say it. Dinosaurs is kind of weird. Dinosaurs 478 00:30:45,160 --> 00:30:50,320 Speaker 1: are we gonna find and maybe we'll find a dinosaur civilization. Uh. 479 00:30:50,360 --> 00:30:52,960 Speaker 1: All the fossils we found so far, the majority are 480 00:30:53,040 --> 00:30:57,920 Speaker 1: from margins of coastal islands, exposed mountain rock places. Um, 481 00:30:58,560 --> 00:31:01,040 Speaker 1: because those are a few places that don't have like 482 00:31:01,320 --> 00:31:04,880 Speaker 1: miles of ice over them. Uh. And because the continent 483 00:31:04,920 --> 00:31:08,959 Speaker 1: was not always so cold because it was a subtropical 484 00:31:09,000 --> 00:31:12,560 Speaker 1: climate for so long, we know that there had to 485 00:31:12,640 --> 00:31:18,480 Speaker 1: be uh an abundance of life. Sure, I was looking 486 00:31:18,520 --> 00:31:21,280 Speaker 1: for the right word that didn't have a curseword in it. 487 00:31:22,160 --> 00:31:26,280 Speaker 1: So during the Cretaceous period it did enjoy a warmer, 488 00:31:26,360 --> 00:31:29,920 Speaker 1: lusher climate. And that Cretaceous period started a hundred forty 489 00:31:29,960 --> 00:31:33,880 Speaker 1: four million years ago, it ended sixty five million years ago, 490 00:31:35,200 --> 00:31:37,960 Speaker 1: And those fossils are are pretty exciting. Just a few 491 00:31:38,000 --> 00:31:42,360 Speaker 1: things we've seen on and scientists have identified a handful 492 00:31:42,480 --> 00:31:47,640 Speaker 1: of dinosaur species that they think are you know, if 493 00:31:47,680 --> 00:31:53,560 Speaker 1: not uniquely Antarctic, have been identified at least as as 494 00:31:53,600 --> 00:31:55,600 Speaker 1: something that would have lived in the Antarctic and not 495 00:31:55,720 --> 00:31:59,440 Speaker 1: just like single animal, but that indicates larger population. However, 496 00:32:00,160 --> 00:32:03,000 Speaker 1: what you said just then was by far the most 497 00:32:03,040 --> 00:32:07,880 Speaker 1: exciting thing. What we might not just be looking for 498 00:32:08,160 --> 00:32:13,560 Speaker 1: relics of life gone by. We may find living things 499 00:32:13,680 --> 00:32:17,160 Speaker 1: life in action. Yet, Yeah, and who knows the size 500 00:32:17,160 --> 00:32:20,479 Speaker 1: of these things. It would probably be much smaller micro 501 00:32:21,240 --> 00:32:25,000 Speaker 1: level like micro level life or even bacteria. Maybe a 502 00:32:25,040 --> 00:32:28,280 Speaker 1: little bit larger than that, because there are other places 503 00:32:28,880 --> 00:32:31,880 Speaker 1: that we can kind of point to that are somewhat 504 00:32:31,960 --> 00:32:35,840 Speaker 1: like Antarctica. And there is this one place in particular 505 00:32:36,240 --> 00:32:40,040 Speaker 1: that we know of might hold these things or these keys, 506 00:32:40,560 --> 00:32:43,600 Speaker 1: and it's already been looked at a bit. It's this 507 00:32:43,640 --> 00:32:46,680 Speaker 1: place that you may have heard of called Lake Vostok. 508 00:32:46,920 --> 00:32:50,120 Speaker 1: It's this pristine freshwater lake that's buried two and a 509 00:32:50,160 --> 00:32:53,760 Speaker 1: half miles below solid ice. That's three point seven kilometers 510 00:32:53,800 --> 00:32:57,040 Speaker 1: by the way, for everyone outside of Namibia and the 511 00:32:57,160 --> 00:33:03,600 Speaker 1: US and mean mar the countries. It's about the size 512 00:33:03,800 --> 00:33:06,160 Speaker 1: of Lake Ontario, one of the great lakes here in 513 00:33:06,160 --> 00:33:10,200 Speaker 1: the US, and it's the largest of the more than 514 00:33:10,240 --> 00:33:15,480 Speaker 1: two hundred liquid lakes that are strewn across Antarctica. Right. Yes, 515 00:33:15,520 --> 00:33:21,000 Speaker 1: beneath that ice there is more than simply stone and 516 00:33:21,920 --> 00:33:25,680 Speaker 1: fossils and dead things mountains. Yeah, there's there's lakes man 517 00:33:25,760 --> 00:33:31,280 Speaker 1: freshwater lakes that are liquid. And what we've learned is 518 00:33:31,360 --> 00:33:35,120 Speaker 1: that these lakes are created when again the geothermal heat, 519 00:33:35,280 --> 00:33:39,000 Speaker 1: the energy from Earth's core, melts the bottom of the 520 00:33:39,080 --> 00:33:43,360 Speaker 1: ice sheet. Uh. This is maybe counterintuitive to some folks, 521 00:33:43,440 --> 00:33:46,680 Speaker 1: but the thick blanket of ice on top access insulation. 522 00:33:47,920 --> 00:33:51,600 Speaker 1: These lakes don't get out much. No, they don't. They 523 00:33:51,640 --> 00:33:54,160 Speaker 1: just kind of they I don't know they're they're happy. 524 00:33:54,200 --> 00:33:57,040 Speaker 1: They like the quiet life, and that's perhaps why they've 525 00:33:57,080 --> 00:34:02,040 Speaker 1: been isolated for hundreds of thousands, two millions of years. 526 00:34:02,760 --> 00:34:06,760 Speaker 1: That and and when something's isolated that long, if you're 527 00:34:06,800 --> 00:34:11,640 Speaker 1: familiar with the evolution to creepy, in my opinion, the 528 00:34:11,719 --> 00:34:16,640 Speaker 1: creepy evolution of cave dwelling creatures, then you know that 529 00:34:17,960 --> 00:34:23,320 Speaker 1: hundreds of thousands, well more millions of years gives creatures 530 00:34:23,320 --> 00:34:28,920 Speaker 1: space to adapt. And so you know, as you can assume, 531 00:34:28,960 --> 00:34:31,640 Speaker 1: scientists are really excited to get into these lakes like 532 00:34:31,719 --> 00:34:35,040 Speaker 1: Lake voll Stark and really do as much research as possible, 533 00:34:35,080 --> 00:34:37,040 Speaker 1: go as deep as you can into the lake, and 534 00:34:37,080 --> 00:34:40,160 Speaker 1: just explore it as much as possible can Can you 535 00:34:40,239 --> 00:34:43,439 Speaker 1: imagine being a scientist and discovering perhaps even a new 536 00:34:43,520 --> 00:34:47,680 Speaker 1: type of life at the bottom of one of these lakes. Yeah, yeah, 537 00:34:47,880 --> 00:34:51,440 Speaker 1: I'd be like the academic version of Kanye West. You 538 00:34:51,440 --> 00:34:54,680 Speaker 1: could drop all the mics of yelling at people at 539 00:34:55,120 --> 00:35:00,720 Speaker 1: meet ups for readings. I would interrupt people's find present 540 00:35:00,840 --> 00:35:05,080 Speaker 1: I would interrupt people's presentations on their findings. Even if 541 00:35:05,080 --> 00:35:07,520 Speaker 1: you found microbial life, right, but what if you found 542 00:35:07,560 --> 00:35:14,080 Speaker 1: something bigger? Yes? So here, Yeah, so scientists have raced 543 00:35:14,120 --> 00:35:18,919 Speaker 1: to collect water samples from Lake Vostok, and and this 544 00:35:19,160 --> 00:35:25,040 Speaker 1: was relatively controversial because what we are essentially doing when 545 00:35:25,080 --> 00:35:27,680 Speaker 1: we do something like that is that we are breaking 546 00:35:27,840 --> 00:35:34,279 Speaker 1: the seal on something ancient, right, and going through here. 547 00:35:35,719 --> 00:35:40,080 Speaker 1: What the scientists found was they found life. They found 548 00:35:40,120 --> 00:35:45,560 Speaker 1: living things in there, and to me, that's, um, that's 549 00:35:45,640 --> 00:35:49,680 Speaker 1: kind of well, it's it's beautiful. I choose to interpret 550 00:35:49,760 --> 00:35:54,719 Speaker 1: it as beautiful rather than ominous. But you're right, Matt, 551 00:35:54,760 --> 00:35:59,120 Speaker 1: they found bacteria, but they found more than that too. Yeah. 552 00:35:59,160 --> 00:36:03,480 Speaker 1: They they found over one hundred multicellular species, which is 553 00:36:03,640 --> 00:36:06,200 Speaker 1: that's huge. That they even found some species that are 554 00:36:06,360 --> 00:36:10,600 Speaker 1: generally associated with mollusks and fish. And there was even 555 00:36:10,640 --> 00:36:14,000 Speaker 1: one researcher who I think said, well, with all these findings, 556 00:36:14,080 --> 00:36:17,560 Speaker 1: we might even have fish in there somewhere, And then 557 00:36:17,600 --> 00:36:21,000 Speaker 1: he very quickly was like, okay, well maybe not fish, 558 00:36:21,080 --> 00:36:24,319 Speaker 1: all right, right, because it's so difficult to uh, it's 559 00:36:24,320 --> 00:36:28,880 Speaker 1: so difficult to present scientific findings to the you know, 560 00:36:29,000 --> 00:36:33,680 Speaker 1: general Well, I would say it's not it's not difficult 561 00:36:33,680 --> 00:36:36,600 Speaker 1: to present this stuff to general public, because there's this 562 00:36:36,719 --> 00:36:41,600 Speaker 1: great there's this great error that people often make about 563 00:36:41,719 --> 00:36:45,120 Speaker 1: quote unquote the general public. The quote Titian the common man, 564 00:36:45,760 --> 00:36:50,120 Speaker 1: and that is to say that a single individual is smart, 565 00:36:50,160 --> 00:36:54,000 Speaker 1: but a group is stupid. Now, as as convenient as 566 00:36:54,040 --> 00:36:55,680 Speaker 1: that might be, as fun as it might be to 567 00:36:55,719 --> 00:37:00,160 Speaker 1: read on like a very negative Hallmark card, Uh, I've 568 00:37:00,160 --> 00:37:02,839 Speaker 1: never seen that before. The fact of the matter is 569 00:37:03,000 --> 00:37:08,000 Speaker 1: that people are that that people are intelligent, and you know, 570 00:37:08,120 --> 00:37:14,080 Speaker 1: cognitively people are similar to the old story about goldfish. 571 00:37:14,239 --> 00:37:18,200 Speaker 1: Our our intelligence grows to the size of its container. 572 00:37:19,080 --> 00:37:21,959 Speaker 1: So who makes the container? Who frames the debate? It's 573 00:37:21,960 --> 00:37:25,720 Speaker 1: not it's not that it's not that scientists will report 574 00:37:25,880 --> 00:37:31,320 Speaker 1: something and everybody in the world is all of a 575 00:37:31,360 --> 00:37:34,880 Speaker 1: sudden just dumb about it. No, it's that they report something, 576 00:37:34,920 --> 00:37:38,800 Speaker 1: but then it is uh condensed and twisted into something 577 00:37:38,840 --> 00:37:42,080 Speaker 1: that can be told in two minutes and thirty seconds 578 00:37:42,600 --> 00:37:46,680 Speaker 1: before shifting to a picture of like a cat that 579 00:37:46,800 --> 00:37:52,880 Speaker 1: accidentally sneezed while it farted, which I would watch. But 580 00:37:53,440 --> 00:37:55,640 Speaker 1: so I I don't think like I don't. I think 581 00:37:55,680 --> 00:37:59,279 Speaker 1: it's just a huge error to say that he had 582 00:37:59,280 --> 00:38:01,600 Speaker 1: to he had to withdraw that might have fish thing 583 00:38:01,680 --> 00:38:04,600 Speaker 1: because people wouldn't understand it. But what he was probably 584 00:38:04,800 --> 00:38:09,440 Speaker 1: more concerned with was someone who wants a really good headline, 585 00:38:09,440 --> 00:38:12,799 Speaker 1: grabbing it and running with it and saying, and I'm 586 00:38:12,840 --> 00:38:15,600 Speaker 1: sure they did. Fish. I don't remember seeing the headline, 587 00:38:15,640 --> 00:38:19,239 Speaker 1: but I'm sure it existed. And so so we do know, though, 588 00:38:19,280 --> 00:38:22,080 Speaker 1: that this is exciting, right, there's there's a great lead here, 589 00:38:23,000 --> 00:38:26,160 Speaker 1: there's evidence that compels us because this is one of 590 00:38:26,200 --> 00:38:32,160 Speaker 1: how many Lakes said, I've already found some evidence. We 591 00:38:32,200 --> 00:38:34,960 Speaker 1: already know there's gonna be something down there, Bend. That's 592 00:38:34,960 --> 00:38:39,239 Speaker 1: gonna be Oh, I don't know. I cannot There's gonna 593 00:38:39,239 --> 00:38:44,320 Speaker 1: be a dinosaur. Yeah, I cannot wait, ancient civilization, alien life, 594 00:38:44,360 --> 00:38:47,319 Speaker 1: a pyramid, Let me a pyramid. Are you kidding me? 595 00:38:48,000 --> 00:38:50,239 Speaker 1: That would be great. I don't know if it will be. 596 00:38:50,520 --> 00:38:53,520 Speaker 1: You know it will happen, No, probably not, probably not. 597 00:38:53,640 --> 00:38:56,600 Speaker 1: I'm gonna keep hoping. And well, I was gonna say praying, 598 00:38:56,640 --> 00:38:59,960 Speaker 1: but well, we we live. That's the thing. Though we live. 599 00:39:00,000 --> 00:39:02,480 Speaker 1: Really don't know. It's it's such an it's such an 600 00:39:02,560 --> 00:39:09,120 Speaker 1: exciting thing. And often we as a species think about space, 601 00:39:09,239 --> 00:39:13,240 Speaker 1: deep space, as as the vast unexplored territory. But this 602 00:39:13,480 --> 00:39:19,359 Speaker 1: is vast unexplored territory that you know, and the cosmically 603 00:39:19,600 --> 00:39:23,200 Speaker 1: in in a cosmic sense or cosmic scale, is right 604 00:39:23,239 --> 00:39:26,760 Speaker 1: next to us. We're all be there, and I'm interested 605 00:39:26,800 --> 00:39:31,000 Speaker 1: to see. I'm very interested in the future of Antarctica, 606 00:39:31,200 --> 00:39:33,080 Speaker 1: and I know you are too. As a matter of fact, 607 00:39:33,160 --> 00:39:34,960 Speaker 1: this is one of the things that we talked about 608 00:39:35,000 --> 00:39:39,439 Speaker 1: off air that would be uh, one of the most 609 00:39:39,480 --> 00:39:45,759 Speaker 1: important coming developments, and that is who owns it precisely, 610 00:39:46,440 --> 00:39:50,120 Speaker 1: who will own Antarctica in the future, right, Yes, So 611 00:39:50,120 --> 00:39:55,080 Speaker 1: we talked about that treaty, the Antarctic Treaty. The It 612 00:39:55,239 --> 00:39:59,919 Speaker 1: started out with twelve countries and now there are five 613 00:40:00,120 --> 00:40:02,680 Speaker 1: d two because they would start signing the terms of 614 00:40:02,719 --> 00:40:05,960 Speaker 1: it so they could send scientists down do some research. 615 00:40:06,719 --> 00:40:10,880 Speaker 1: It has a couple of very big provisions. The first 616 00:40:10,920 --> 00:40:15,800 Speaker 1: one is that ANTARCTICUS shall be used for peaceful purposes only, 617 00:40:15,920 --> 00:40:20,799 Speaker 1: So no nuclear bases, guys, no submarine reups, none of that. 618 00:40:22,719 --> 00:40:25,359 Speaker 1: I feel like that's a tough thing to enforce, but 619 00:40:26,040 --> 00:40:32,680 Speaker 1: well it's not. It's not impossible. I'm I'm sure it's 620 00:40:32,680 --> 00:40:34,600 Speaker 1: a pain in the vibe. Yeah, yeah, that's what I mean, 621 00:40:34,719 --> 00:40:39,040 Speaker 1: just to even get a ship down there. Well, other 622 00:40:39,200 --> 00:40:43,800 Speaker 1: other islands in the area that are owned by various 623 00:40:43,840 --> 00:40:48,080 Speaker 1: countries as research islands may not have those same stipulations. 624 00:40:48,120 --> 00:40:55,280 Speaker 1: So for instance, um, if you're you know, like Queen 625 00:40:55,400 --> 00:41:01,000 Speaker 1: maud Islands or excuse me, Queen maud Land is part 626 00:41:01,160 --> 00:41:05,600 Speaker 1: of Antarctica, but what about the islands off of that? 627 00:41:05,880 --> 00:41:09,239 Speaker 1: Do they also qualify? And these are things that are 628 00:41:09,239 --> 00:41:13,239 Speaker 1: answered in the treaties, but the answers may differ at 629 00:41:13,239 --> 00:41:18,800 Speaker 1: certain points in time or in in territorial reckoning. Another 630 00:41:18,800 --> 00:41:23,520 Speaker 1: thing is that freedom of scientific investigation Antarctic and cooperation 631 00:41:23,560 --> 00:41:29,920 Speaker 1: towards that end should continue. So if your scientists from 632 00:41:29,920 --> 00:41:35,680 Speaker 1: the US and knowles scientists from Finland, and I'm a 633 00:41:35,719 --> 00:41:40,120 Speaker 1: scientist from Azerbaijan or whatever, it doesn't matter, then no 634 00:41:40,160 --> 00:41:42,439 Speaker 1: matter what's really going on with our countries, we should 635 00:41:42,480 --> 00:41:48,560 Speaker 1: be able to cooperate as academics and scientific observation and 636 00:41:48,640 --> 00:41:53,840 Speaker 1: results from Antarctica shall be made freely available. Snow keeping secrets. 637 00:41:53,880 --> 00:41:57,920 Speaker 1: Now saying we've discovered the ruins of an ancient alien civilization, 638 00:41:58,120 --> 00:42:02,080 Speaker 1: no one tell Greg you know what. I actually we 639 00:42:02,160 --> 00:42:06,120 Speaker 1: probably shouldn't tell Gregg. He's just gonna get so excited, 640 00:42:06,480 --> 00:42:09,440 Speaker 1: you know how he is. He's gonna start telling everybody 641 00:42:09,480 --> 00:42:11,919 Speaker 1: that he found it. He is. I wish he never 642 00:42:11,960 --> 00:42:18,839 Speaker 1: started that tumbler. Look what I found dot tumbler dot com. Yeah. 643 00:42:18,840 --> 00:42:21,879 Speaker 1: But so all right, so right now there is this 644 00:42:22,560 --> 00:42:27,319 Speaker 1: there is this agreement that holds. But this agreement, this 645 00:42:27,440 --> 00:42:32,000 Speaker 1: treaty uh is going to come under some increasing pressure 646 00:42:32,200 --> 00:42:40,200 Speaker 1: as as Antarctica becomes increasingly accessible, right and important? Once 647 00:42:40,239 --> 00:42:43,080 Speaker 1: the ice melts? What what kind of mineral deposits are 648 00:42:43,120 --> 00:42:46,520 Speaker 1: looking out at under there? You know? Yeah, who's gonna 649 00:42:46,560 --> 00:42:49,760 Speaker 1: be here's the crazy thing. Who's gonna be worried about 650 00:42:49,760 --> 00:42:54,719 Speaker 1: Antarctica when all this ice is melting? But well, you know, actually, 651 00:42:54,840 --> 00:42:56,959 Speaker 1: now that I think about a little bit more, if 652 00:42:57,000 --> 00:43:00,399 Speaker 1: the land ice really starts melting at an increase rate 653 00:43:00,800 --> 00:43:04,839 Speaker 1: to a point where this land is livable, we're gonna 654 00:43:04,920 --> 00:43:08,600 Speaker 1: have to find new places for humans to live. Maybe 655 00:43:08,640 --> 00:43:12,759 Speaker 1: this is the answer. Wow, I don't Yeah, I know, 656 00:43:12,800 --> 00:43:17,640 Speaker 1: these coastal cities, I can't live there anymore. Yeah, but 657 00:43:17,680 --> 00:43:19,920 Speaker 1: what's the span of time for that too? That's a 658 00:43:20,360 --> 00:43:24,720 Speaker 1: large span of time. But eventually Antarctica might be the answer. 659 00:43:24,840 --> 00:43:27,160 Speaker 1: It might Eventually it might be the new neighborhood for 660 00:43:27,160 --> 00:43:30,640 Speaker 1: people for a few million years until the next nine stage. Maybe. Yeah, 661 00:43:30,760 --> 00:43:32,839 Speaker 1: And that depends on Oh, we shall also talk about 662 00:43:32,840 --> 00:43:37,880 Speaker 1: the polls next. But the so yeah, so Antarctica is 663 00:43:38,920 --> 00:43:43,719 Speaker 1: has the potential to become a hot spot for international competition, 664 00:43:44,160 --> 00:43:49,400 Speaker 1: similar to the North Pole, where uh soon probably if 665 00:43:49,640 --> 00:43:53,280 Speaker 1: if you're listening, it's probably within your lifetime. Uh. The 666 00:43:53,280 --> 00:43:57,320 Speaker 1: there will be parts of the gear where the ice 667 00:43:57,400 --> 00:44:02,240 Speaker 1: at the North Pole melts to the point where ships 668 00:44:02,280 --> 00:44:06,840 Speaker 1: can navigate across, which would be tremendous for international shipping 669 00:44:07,080 --> 00:44:14,480 Speaker 1: and also very dangerous for very dangerous for the countries 670 00:44:14,520 --> 00:44:18,680 Speaker 1: involved as they negotiate peace. You know. Uh, we're talking 671 00:44:18,680 --> 00:44:22,000 Speaker 1: about this software too. Once upon a time, Uh, once 672 00:44:22,080 --> 00:44:26,480 Speaker 1: upon a time, Alaska was called McKinley's folly because he 673 00:44:26,760 --> 00:44:29,080 Speaker 1: spent so much money on it. How would you buy 674 00:44:29,120 --> 00:44:33,279 Speaker 1: all this? Right? And you know, listeners who are not 675 00:44:33,320 --> 00:44:36,719 Speaker 1: based in the US. I was thinking from this perspective 676 00:44:36,719 --> 00:44:38,600 Speaker 1: when I looked at a map of the fifty U. 677 00:44:38,680 --> 00:44:41,400 Speaker 1: S States recently, and I thought, man, yeah, Alaska looks weird. 678 00:44:41,880 --> 00:44:47,080 Speaker 1: Alaska looks like how did you call that? What happened? Uh? So? Uh? 679 00:44:47,239 --> 00:44:51,840 Speaker 1: The but the idea of these poles of the world 680 00:44:51,920 --> 00:44:57,239 Speaker 1: becoming becoming new regional hot spots or new global hotspots 681 00:44:57,680 --> 00:45:01,319 Speaker 1: is not as strange as it might sounds. And I 682 00:45:01,400 --> 00:45:05,600 Speaker 1: know that it can be tremendously controversial for people to 683 00:45:05,600 --> 00:45:09,960 Speaker 1: talk about that stuff, but um, it's the fact is 684 00:45:10,080 --> 00:45:13,520 Speaker 1: it's happening. People are just talking about why it's happening 685 00:45:13,760 --> 00:45:20,600 Speaker 1: and what the timeline is. But the to to paraphrase 686 00:45:20,640 --> 00:45:25,520 Speaker 1: the old opera quote, the lady has sang saying this 687 00:45:25,600 --> 00:45:28,400 Speaker 1: is this is happening. There's not There's not much people 688 00:45:28,440 --> 00:45:33,759 Speaker 1: could do to bring back the ice. Right, Eventually it 689 00:45:33,840 --> 00:45:37,480 Speaker 1: will eventually, at least in the in the North Pole. Uh, 690 00:45:37,600 --> 00:45:42,399 Speaker 1: it will it will be uh navigable by water because 691 00:45:42,400 --> 00:45:45,400 Speaker 1: it won't be that ice there all the year. But again, 692 00:45:45,600 --> 00:45:49,000 Speaker 1: also I should probably hedge my bets there because I said, 693 00:45:49,040 --> 00:45:53,000 Speaker 1: in your lifetime, but we're not sure. Yeah, we're not 694 00:45:53,040 --> 00:45:55,319 Speaker 1: sure how old you are either. Listener. Yeah, that's a 695 00:45:55,400 --> 00:45:57,919 Speaker 1: very good point. So I'd like anybody who is who 696 00:45:57,960 --> 00:46:00,960 Speaker 1: studies the climate professionally and to let me know your estimates, 697 00:46:01,000 --> 00:46:04,120 Speaker 1: would love to read them on air. Oh and speaking corrections, 698 00:46:04,160 --> 00:46:07,080 Speaker 1: we do have another one. I messed this up. I 699 00:46:07,120 --> 00:46:12,560 Speaker 1: slipped when we were talking um in in our earlier 700 00:46:12,840 --> 00:46:19,160 Speaker 1: episodes on on World War Three. It was Nikita Krushchev 701 00:46:19,920 --> 00:46:28,279 Speaker 1: who gifted Crimea to Ukraine in ninet, not Stalin. Yeah, 702 00:46:28,280 --> 00:46:32,600 Speaker 1: it was Skruschev. So the uh, the last last thing 703 00:46:32,640 --> 00:46:37,840 Speaker 1: we talked about here is uh the pole shifting. Oh yes, 704 00:46:38,040 --> 00:46:42,200 Speaker 1: which came up recently on our social media. Right. Uh, 705 00:46:42,360 --> 00:46:47,279 Speaker 1: here's the long story short. All the evidence indicates that 706 00:46:47,840 --> 00:46:54,040 Speaker 1: every so often the magnetic poles of Earth shift. So 707 00:46:56,400 --> 00:46:58,719 Speaker 1: what this means is, essentially, the north pole becomes a 708 00:46:58,760 --> 00:47:02,759 Speaker 1: south pole, south pole becomes north pole. Most times it 709 00:47:02,840 --> 00:47:07,399 Speaker 1: happens gradually the poles start to slowly shift away from 710 00:47:07,440 --> 00:47:10,320 Speaker 1: their part, and then the north that your compass points 711 00:47:10,360 --> 00:47:15,640 Speaker 1: to is not the geographical north right. And this, I mean, 712 00:47:15,680 --> 00:47:18,120 Speaker 1: this is something people know if you use a compass. 713 00:47:18,160 --> 00:47:25,000 Speaker 1: But other times it's just flipped like like fresh, like 714 00:47:25,080 --> 00:47:27,160 Speaker 1: the life of the Fresh Prince of val Air and 715 00:47:27,200 --> 00:47:32,000 Speaker 1: his theme song just gets flipped turned upside down. And 716 00:47:32,480 --> 00:47:36,719 Speaker 1: this but this, uh, you know, I just bring this 717 00:47:36,760 --> 00:47:39,120 Speaker 1: up because they're talking about the polls. Every so often 718 00:47:39,120 --> 00:47:41,480 Speaker 1: you hear people worrying about this. This is another thing 719 00:47:41,560 --> 00:47:47,440 Speaker 1: where we know that historically we're overdue for it. But uh, 720 00:47:48,640 --> 00:47:52,640 Speaker 1: when when does that date actually come? Do? No one 721 00:47:52,680 --> 00:47:55,880 Speaker 1: knows really how to calculate it well, and the effects 722 00:47:55,960 --> 00:47:59,760 Speaker 1: of a of a polar versal like that. It's because 723 00:47:59,760 --> 00:48:05,440 Speaker 1: we're talking about the magnet the magneto sphere and you know, 724 00:48:05,600 --> 00:48:10,120 Speaker 1: the inner mechanics of the magnetic nature of Earth. Um. 725 00:48:10,400 --> 00:48:13,279 Speaker 1: I don't have all that information Ben about how what 726 00:48:13,360 --> 00:48:16,279 Speaker 1: it's going to do exactly when it happens. But it 727 00:48:16,320 --> 00:48:21,200 Speaker 1: seems like the effects aren't going to be massive. No, No, well, 728 00:48:21,239 --> 00:48:26,640 Speaker 1: I think the effects will be probably the effects probably 729 00:48:26,680 --> 00:48:31,360 Speaker 1: be massive for certain migratory species that depend on that reckoning, 730 00:48:31,800 --> 00:48:35,879 Speaker 1: uh to navigate the world, so to understand which way 731 00:48:35,960 --> 00:48:41,120 Speaker 1: is north? You know? Uh? And oh and no, speaking 732 00:48:41,120 --> 00:48:44,080 Speaker 1: of north. As we sow this up, guys, I know 733 00:48:44,160 --> 00:48:46,720 Speaker 1: we didn't get to everything. We're a little over our time. 734 00:48:46,760 --> 00:48:50,520 Speaker 1: I just saw my buddy Kristen and stuff. Mom never 735 00:48:50,600 --> 00:48:53,840 Speaker 1: told you walked by. Well we well, first thing we 736 00:48:53,880 --> 00:49:01,040 Speaker 1: have to do, Ben really fast stock miss Okay, No, yes, man, 737 00:49:02,560 --> 00:49:03,800 Speaker 1: I just I just had to talk to you that. 738 00:49:04,360 --> 00:49:06,880 Speaker 1: I just need to hear your voice. I was feeling scared. No, 739 00:49:07,440 --> 00:49:09,680 Speaker 1: if you know, looks good. You kind of you kind 740 00:49:09,680 --> 00:49:14,600 Speaker 1: of unhinged. Sorry, I'm really sorry. It's I've just never 741 00:49:14,600 --> 00:49:17,760 Speaker 1: seen you like this, man. Worry, it's very strange because 742 00:49:17,800 --> 00:49:21,000 Speaker 1: I'm freezing right now, but I know my internal temperature 743 00:49:21,120 --> 00:49:24,200 Speaker 1: is very hot, and I've got my hoodie on. It's 744 00:49:24,239 --> 00:49:26,880 Speaker 1: a horrible it's kind of hot water bottle nestles underneath 745 00:49:26,880 --> 00:49:33,520 Speaker 1: his chin like that. It's the blood like your face. Yeah, 746 00:49:33,920 --> 00:49:37,680 Speaker 1: it's so funny. I was watching Mr Robot last night 747 00:49:38,080 --> 00:49:43,240 Speaker 1: and this isn't really a spoiler alert, but I just okay, 748 00:49:43,239 --> 00:49:46,760 Speaker 1: So he is kicking a habit. One of the characters 749 00:49:46,800 --> 00:49:50,480 Speaker 1: is kicking a habit, and he's having the night sweats 750 00:49:50,520 --> 00:49:53,000 Speaker 1: and going through all that stuff, and I was watching it, 751 00:49:53,040 --> 00:49:58,360 Speaker 1: identifying so hard with his character at that moment. Holy crap, 752 00:49:59,239 --> 00:50:01,880 Speaker 1: you like in the show? Oh yeah, I watched the 753 00:50:01,880 --> 00:50:05,480 Speaker 1: first episode. I really enjoyed. I need to. I can't 754 00:50:05,480 --> 00:50:09,680 Speaker 1: speak highly enough about it. The cinematography of this past episode. 755 00:50:09,760 --> 00:50:11,839 Speaker 1: I can't place that guy. I feel like I've seen 756 00:50:11,920 --> 00:50:14,000 Speaker 1: him in something that I like, but I cannot, for 757 00:50:14,040 --> 00:50:15,879 Speaker 1: the life of me, figure out what it was. I'm 758 00:50:15,960 --> 00:50:18,360 Speaker 1: not positive either now. I just seen him as that character, 759 00:50:18,640 --> 00:50:21,440 Speaker 1: all right, Ben? Sorry, no, no, no, did this uh 760 00:50:21,560 --> 00:50:26,600 Speaker 1: this antarctic discussion at least cool you down? Are you 761 00:50:26,640 --> 00:50:28,759 Speaker 1: gonna are you gonna do? Are you gonna put in 762 00:50:28,840 --> 00:50:31,640 Speaker 1: Did you just put in like a drum roll? Yeah? 763 00:50:32,040 --> 00:50:35,080 Speaker 1: I did it with my mind. Okay, well we'll hear 764 00:50:35,080 --> 00:50:37,400 Speaker 1: it in post. Looks like Antarctic of my ice is 765 00:50:37,480 --> 00:50:41,680 Speaker 1: melting rapidly. Well, it's time to trundle you off to 766 00:50:41,800 --> 00:50:45,480 Speaker 1: a sick bed. So well, uh, no, I have to 767 00:50:45,560 --> 00:50:47,000 Speaker 1: I have to ask you. I have to ask both 768 00:50:47,000 --> 00:50:49,319 Speaker 1: of you guys, would you, given the chance, take a 769 00:50:49,360 --> 00:50:53,560 Speaker 1: trip to Antarctica? Don't they do like cruises or something. Yeah, 770 00:50:53,600 --> 00:50:56,920 Speaker 1: I got very close to us sneaking aboard. I mean 771 00:50:56,920 --> 00:50:59,920 Speaker 1: not as a stowaway. I get very what do my 772 00:51:00,120 --> 00:51:03,080 Speaker 1: friends family? She was, uh, she was going with them 773 00:51:03,120 --> 00:51:07,160 Speaker 1: because her parents had, I don't know, retired or was 774 00:51:07,200 --> 00:51:10,160 Speaker 1: the anniversary or something. And they said, oh, we're gonna 775 00:51:10,160 --> 00:51:13,399 Speaker 1: go to Antarctica. And it was like a punishment. It's 776 00:51:13,480 --> 00:51:17,560 Speaker 1: more affordable if more people go with us, and so 777 00:51:17,880 --> 00:51:20,120 Speaker 1: you know, I'm here cheap skate, So I said, how 778 00:51:20,160 --> 00:51:22,040 Speaker 1: affordable is what do you mean? You know? I might 779 00:51:22,120 --> 00:51:24,279 Speaker 1: have different ideas, but I was all set to go 780 00:51:24,520 --> 00:51:28,080 Speaker 1: and then apparently, and I can only tell this story 781 00:51:28,320 --> 00:51:31,280 Speaker 1: on the air because I'm not going to use the names, 782 00:51:31,360 --> 00:51:36,160 Speaker 1: but apparently turned out it was more the dad's thing, 783 00:51:37,000 --> 00:51:39,759 Speaker 1: and the wife eventually put her foot down and said, 784 00:51:39,800 --> 00:51:43,560 Speaker 1: you know, this is my anniversary too. Why the hell 785 00:51:43,600 --> 00:51:46,520 Speaker 1: are we going to Antarctica? What are you trying to 786 00:51:46,560 --> 00:51:50,560 Speaker 1: say about our marriage? Which is which was a which 787 00:51:50,600 --> 00:51:52,160 Speaker 1: is a nice little But that was my one chance 788 00:51:52,200 --> 00:51:55,080 Speaker 1: to go. And there was another expedition where these guys 789 00:51:55,080 --> 00:51:58,160 Speaker 1: were going to send people out to find an entrance 790 00:51:58,200 --> 00:52:00,919 Speaker 1: to the Hollow Earth and yeah, and you could sign 791 00:52:01,000 --> 00:52:05,799 Speaker 1: up online to submit your qualifications and this was, um 792 00:52:06,239 --> 00:52:10,239 Speaker 1: we were working together. So remember I never heard back 793 00:52:10,280 --> 00:52:12,280 Speaker 1: from him. So, guys, if you're checking out the show, 794 00:52:13,239 --> 00:52:14,799 Speaker 1: let me know how it went. We'll go on the 795 00:52:14,800 --> 00:52:17,560 Speaker 1: next one if you're If you let us, I don't know. 796 00:52:17,640 --> 00:52:19,799 Speaker 1: Maybe their WiFi is not good being in the hollow 797 00:52:19,840 --> 00:52:22,160 Speaker 1: Earth and all. Uh so, no, what do you what 798 00:52:22,200 --> 00:52:24,880 Speaker 1: do you think about the episode before we close out anything? No, 799 00:52:24,960 --> 00:52:26,440 Speaker 1: I don't know how anything in particular. I think you 800 00:52:26,440 --> 00:52:31,319 Speaker 1: guys were thorough as usual. Um, I think there's some 801 00:52:31,400 --> 00:52:33,680 Speaker 1: interesting things to think about. I don't think we were 802 00:52:33,719 --> 00:52:35,799 Speaker 1: a man. I think there's so much more we could do. 803 00:52:35,920 --> 00:52:38,000 Speaker 1: I want to go to Antarctica, sign up on a 804 00:52:38,080 --> 00:52:42,279 Speaker 1: research station, put my two years in or whatever, and uh, 805 00:52:42,440 --> 00:52:44,680 Speaker 1: I want to find the thing. You want to find 806 00:52:44,719 --> 00:52:47,400 Speaker 1: the thing, you know, I think it's down there. I 807 00:52:47,440 --> 00:52:50,719 Speaker 1: think there's a possibility too that we talked about it, like, 808 00:52:50,760 --> 00:52:57,319 Speaker 1: could you accidentally dig too deep and resurrect some contagion 809 00:52:57,560 --> 00:53:00,520 Speaker 1: or pathogens? The thing was, by the way, what is 810 00:53:00,560 --> 00:53:05,440 Speaker 1: the thing? The thing was an alien life form that landed. Yeah, 811 00:53:05,640 --> 00:53:08,880 Speaker 1: but it's so it's hard to say exactly what it 812 00:53:09,160 --> 00:53:13,239 Speaker 1: is because you don't really see its natural shape. It's 813 00:53:13,320 --> 00:53:16,800 Speaker 1: the ambiguous type for a while. Yeah, but yeah, we know. 814 00:53:16,880 --> 00:53:18,600 Speaker 1: I mean, you didn't even talk about that a possible 815 00:53:18,600 --> 00:53:23,640 Speaker 1: contagion or a viral life form that lives there. We 816 00:53:23,680 --> 00:53:25,920 Speaker 1: should get to. We should do that in a future 817 00:53:25,960 --> 00:53:29,160 Speaker 1: episode about a disease wiping out the earth, which is 818 00:53:29,760 --> 00:53:34,520 Speaker 1: one of the one of historically one of the most 819 00:53:35,360 --> 00:53:39,399 Speaker 1: dangerous disasters, right, even more so than an earthquake. Quick 820 00:53:39,440 --> 00:53:41,640 Speaker 1: trivia question. Yes, we can cut this if you want. 821 00:53:41,800 --> 00:53:43,600 Speaker 1: It was a trivia question the other week when I 822 00:53:43,680 --> 00:53:45,560 Speaker 1: was playing, Um, do you know the names of the 823 00:53:45,640 --> 00:53:52,520 Speaker 1: two types of plague that made up the black plague? 824 00:53:52,520 --> 00:53:59,040 Speaker 1: And then there's the other one, uh, Gregg's plague. I've 825 00:53:59,080 --> 00:54:01,920 Speaker 1: already forgotten what it us. You've already forgotten what us. 826 00:54:03,719 --> 00:54:07,239 Speaker 1: I think it was like Numonic christianneumonic plague. That's what 827 00:54:07,280 --> 00:54:11,239 Speaker 1: it was exactly. It was the bubonic plaguneumonic place. It 828 00:54:11,280 --> 00:54:14,040 Speaker 1: sounds like a fun plague that it helps you remember 829 00:54:14,080 --> 00:54:23,840 Speaker 1: the mubonic plague. Ye, well, well, plates are well plagued. 830 00:54:25,480 --> 00:54:28,080 Speaker 1: On that note, we're we better get out of here 831 00:54:28,520 --> 00:54:33,319 Speaker 1: before Kristen Kristy comes back for revenge. Uh. So we 832 00:54:33,520 --> 00:54:35,719 Speaker 1: hope that you did enjoy this episode. Again, there's a 833 00:54:35,719 --> 00:54:38,359 Speaker 1: lot of stuff we didn't get to h but we 834 00:54:38,440 --> 00:54:40,840 Speaker 1: would like to hear from you with your thoughts on 835 00:54:40,880 --> 00:54:43,919 Speaker 1: the future of Antarctic up any of the things we've 836 00:54:43,960 --> 00:54:49,800 Speaker 1: discussed before, and any ideas you have for an upcoming episode. Additionally, 837 00:54:49,920 --> 00:54:52,279 Speaker 1: if you want to take a page from some of 838 00:54:52,280 --> 00:54:55,120 Speaker 1: the folks who have been tweeting us and writing to us, uh, 839 00:54:55,160 --> 00:54:59,160 Speaker 1: such as Cheryl and Sean and recommending some places that 840 00:54:59,200 --> 00:55:01,080 Speaker 1: we should check out or people we should talk to 841 00:55:01,520 --> 00:55:05,160 Speaker 1: while we are in the district of Columbia before we 842 00:55:05,200 --> 00:55:09,880 Speaker 1: get disappeared or arrested, and go ahead and let us 843 00:55:09,920 --> 00:55:14,040 Speaker 1: know directly. Our email is Conspiracy at how stuff works 844 00:55:14,080 --> 00:55:21,880 Speaker 1: dot com. From more on this topic, another unexplained phenomenon. 845 00:55:22,200 --> 00:55:26,240 Speaker 1: Visit YouTube dot com slash conspiracy stuff. 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