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Speaker 1: So, kadie, have you or any of your female friends

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Speaker 1: been engaging in this man or bear meme that were

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Speaker 2: Yes or no?

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Speaker 1: Big eye roll, huge eye roll. Okay, I'll set it

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Speaker 1: up here and then you can you can get into it.

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Speaker 1: Eye roll followed by the headshake of disgust.

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Speaker 3: This is the dumbest thing that's hit the Internet in

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Speaker 2: But go ahead, jam.

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Speaker 1: Well, we're wait behind, and I apologize if you're like,

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Speaker 1: that's that's so yesterday's news, because from what I understand,

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Speaker 1: this has been the hot topic for quite a few weeks.

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Speaker 2: But we're old and slow. So it's a very simple question.

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Speaker 1: If you're a woman hiking alone in the woods, would

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Speaker 1: you rather encounter an unknown man or an unknown bear?

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Speaker 1: Would you rather encounter a strange a dude you don't know,

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Speaker 1: or a bear? And depending on which social media venue

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Speaker 1: all of them, two thirds to eighty five percent of

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Speaker 2: First of all, what.

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Speaker 1: If you of your friends thought, And then I'll get

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Speaker 1: into some of the higher level sociology commentary around it.

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Speaker 3: I have not brought this up to my circle of

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Speaker 3: why you would want to encounter a bear. I don't

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Speaker 3: have you not heard of male toxicity? Oh kid, do

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Speaker 3: you know a break? Really, you would rather encounter a

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Speaker 2: That's where we are.

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Speaker 1: That is where we are, and I think we actually

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Speaker 1: just a question posted on TikTok or whatever. But people

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Speaker 1: the fact that people get a kick out of saying bear,

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Speaker 1: I find troubling that you just you like this idea

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Speaker 2: Rather be eaten by a bear.

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Speaker 1: Like a lot of the most common sort of comment

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Speaker 4: My concern is that this might erode bear awareness, but

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Speaker 3: Just let all of the women who said bear encounter

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Speaker 2: That'll be great.

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Speaker 1: I have had a couple reactions in the last few years, though,

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Speaker 2: That didn't used to happen.

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Speaker 1: I feel like I don't know what's being taught to

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Speaker 4: But you look like a serial killer. That's most of them.

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Speaker 1: But I've always looked like a serial killer, and I

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Joe, just all part one of my answer. Part

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Speaker 4: Just the whole framework where you're you're answering one question

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Speaker 2: That's how you prove that you're worthy of respect.

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Speaker 1: Self hatred and look, I get it as the father

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Speaker 1: This seems like a good opportunity for me to express

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Speaker 2: That's all this is.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, got a lot of texts on this for decades,

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Speaker 1: We it's the same thing that has been going on

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Speaker 1: acting like every child gets abducted, every woman gets raped.

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Speaker 1: These are extraordinary instances. That's why they make the news

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Speaker 2: End of it, right yep, encounterbear, You're gonna wet your pants.

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Speaker 3: I had a guy get a coyote away from me

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Speaker 1: It didn't. This meme didn't start with a woman in

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Speaker 4: But again, that is the the knee jerk need of

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Speaker 1: Joe jackasses a woods sen beast.

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Speaker 4: Yes, ignore them completely and DEI programs where they exist immediately.

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Speaker 1: Jack Armstrong and Joe the Armstrong and Getty show.

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Speaker 5: You start doing the one finger tap, holding with your

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I see young people.

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Speaker 1: I've sat next to lots of young people on planes

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Speaker 4: Definitely. My youngest who enjoys teasing me. At one point,

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Speaker 4: I'm voice texting and she says, oh, that is so boomer. Really,

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Speaker 4: I'm like, honey, it's saving me time.

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Speaker 1: Really, So young people don't voice text almost exclusively voice text.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't.

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Speaker 4: I've not had that substantiated by like a committee of

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Speaker 4: The real crisis in America's government schools, and I don't

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Speaker 1: Please. If we do nothing else here, it's refrain from

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Speaker 4: of the results stuff. But the other thing I wanted

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Speaker 4: teachers who listen to the show and communicate to us

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Speaker 4: and blow the whistle on some of the more insane

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Speaker 4: progressive things that are taking the place of math and

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Speaker 4: hammering about because you know, California is a particular interest

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Speaker 4: because that's where the show is based, and the perversity

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Speaker 4: in California schools is just it's heartbreaking. But anyway, Wall

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Speaker 4: Street Journal with a big piece. Teachers are burning out

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Speaker 4: on the job, and the subhead is student behavior and

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Speaker 4: mediocre pay are taking their toll from lefty media.

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Speaker 2: It's always about the pay.

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Speaker 4: It's always about money, and there's such a lack of

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Speaker 4: understanding and wisdom. Maybe it's that progressives so fill the

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Speaker 4: newsrooms that that's the only point of view. And a

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Speaker 4: pay very well.

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Speaker 2: But there is such a lack of wisdom. If I

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Speaker 2: have a.

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Speaker 1: Fun, rewarding, joyful job and I get the summer off,

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Speaker 1: I would accept that rate of pay at X. If

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Speaker 1: I have a miserable, discouraging, heartbreaking job.

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Speaker 2: I'm not gonna work for that low level pay. I'm

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Speaker 2: gonna want a hell of a lot.

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Speaker 1: More to keep showing up very good point, student behavior problems,

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Speaker 1: and artificial intelligence powered cheating are taking their toll on

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Speaker 1: America's roughly three point eight million teachers on top of

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Speaker 1: the bruising pandemic years.

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Speaker 2: The sheriff teachers who say the stress.

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Speaker 4: And disappointments of the job are worth it has fallen

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Speaker 4: twenty one points in the last couple of years.

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Speaker 2: I don't doubt that.

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Speaker 4: As recently as twenty eighteen, over seventy percent of teachers

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Speaker 4: said the stress was worth it. Now it's forty two.

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Speaker 4: In surveys and interviews, teachers are most es any place you.

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Speaker 1: Work, is they layered in more administration to wherever you work.

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Speaker 1: Did that make things more enjoyable or less enjoyable where

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Speaker 4: And we're going to get to the you know, it's

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Speaker 4: more than frustration, it's being physically at risk. In surveys

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Speaker 4: and interviews, teachers are most often pointing to a startling

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Speaker 4: rise in students' mental health challenges and misbehavior as the

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Speaker 4: biggest drivers of burnout. In the Rand Corporation survey, student

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Speaker 4: behavior was the top source of teachers' job stress.

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Speaker 1: A lot of that, I guarantee you, is that whole

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Speaker 1: restorative justice thing where they have no ability to deal

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Speaker 1: with it.

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Speaker 2: That's the next sentence.

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Speaker 4: You're absolutely right to quote a high school math teacher

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Speaker 4: who says he saw student behavior deteriorate seriously, let yet

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Speaker 4: his school drew more lenient in administrating administering consequences.

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Speaker 1: How is the country not aware of what a failure

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Speaker 1: this restorative justice thing is?

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Speaker 4: I know, because nobody talks about it in the media.

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Speaker 4: And this poor son of a gun, So he's dealing

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Speaker 4: with all this frustration and then his district, Kansas City

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Speaker 4: Public Schools, shout out Kansas City. The Great cities were

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Speaker 4: a privileged to be on. They rolled out a new

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Speaker 4: policy last year teachers could not give students a zero

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Speaker 4: for an assignment even if they didn't turn it in

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Speaker 4: and didn't make any effort to.

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Speaker 2: It is to laugh. I mean, that is so funny.

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Speaker 2: It is funny, It is hilarious. So say that again.

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Speaker 2: You can't get a zero.

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Speaker 4: Even if even if you say, not only did I

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Speaker 4: not do the assignment, mister Gerald, you should shove it

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Speaker 4: up your armors. He cannot give you a zero for

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Speaker 4: that assignment. You got to get at least like a

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Speaker 4: c one of the things I got when I got

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Speaker 4: into teaching. My one thing was about learning and love

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Speaker 4: of learning, he says. In the end, it was less

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Speaker 4: about the learning and more about babysitting. He left teaching

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Speaker 4: this summer. Oh yeah, yeah. And they go into a

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Speaker 4: great deal of detail, with many, many examples of classroom

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Speaker 4: stress and violence, lack of consequences for bad behavior, a

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Speaker 4: stort of justice.

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Speaker 2: I mean, look it up, well, don't look it.

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Speaker 1: Up, because their description of it won't be accurate as

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Speaker 1: to what actually happens.

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Speaker 2: It is.

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Speaker 1: It is the recipe for no discipline and a bullies paradise.

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Speaker 2: It is it is.

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Speaker 4: It is tragic for the children and the teachers, and

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Speaker 4: it's part of Oh yeah, absolutely true, and it's one

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Speaker 4: hundred percent part of the neo Marxist We're going to

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Speaker 4: break the system. We're going to call everything racist until

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Speaker 4: we control it. And they do control the schools to

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Speaker 4: a large extent now, and anybody who stands in our

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Speaker 4: way will call them a racist until we have imposed

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Speaker 4: our philosophy on whatever institution you're talking about, from public

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Speaker 4: schools to corporations, to the United States government to the

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Speaker 4: military for instance.

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Speaker 1: By the way, in Kansas City, we're on FM, so

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Speaker 1: people can really enjoy our pipes.

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Speaker 2: I have nothing to add to that, you know, And

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Speaker 2: I don't know. I'm looking at the clock.

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Speaker 4: I came across another account a number of school districts

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Speaker 4: in oh it was Virginia and one other state in

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Speaker 4: which far fewer than half of the children were at

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Speaker 4: the minimum level in English, and it was less than

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Speaker 4: a third in district after district were not at the

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Speaker 4: minimum level for math. We sometimes talk about proficiency. This

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Speaker 4: was the well the minimum and the vast majority of

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Speaker 4: kids are nowhere near it. And if you say I

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Speaker 4: got to get my kid out of this school.

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Speaker 1: The forces of the left from Joe Biden, Kamala Harrison

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Speaker 1: down will tell you you're a racist for some reason.

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Speaker 1: Be you're attacking public schools, trying to take recent versus away.

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Speaker 1: You're a bad person and a bad parent. It's crazier

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Speaker 1: that this isn't a bigger issue. It is, It absolutely is.

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Speaker 1: We got this text out of nowhere. Do you know

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Speaker 1: why hippies were Petulia oil? So blind people can hate

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Speaker 1: them too. Wow, that's beautiful. Here's your freedom loving quote

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Speaker 1: of the day. One of our beloved listeners sent this

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Speaker 1: to us next to a big picture of Captain America,

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Speaker 1: and it was Captain America saying this, And I understand

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Speaker 1: this is a speech he gives to buck up Spider

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Speaker 1: Man at one point during the movies.

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Speaker 4: And I thought, boy, this is really eloquent for one

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Speaker 4: of your comic book movies. Did the script write or

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Speaker 4: write this? And I did a little digging and no,

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Speaker 4: it's actually a very very close paraphrase. Was something Mark

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Speaker 4: Twain said. Interesting, But I liked it so much I

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Speaker 4: posted it up in the studio so I could glance

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Speaker 4: at it now. And again I will give you the

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Speaker 4: Twain version, which is only subtly different as opposed to

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Speaker 4: Captain America.

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Speaker 2: Okay, do just lend them a little more gravitas.

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Speaker 1: Well, unless you're fighting off a mob, then I'd rather

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Speaker 1: have the Captain on my side than the scribe. Honestly

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Speaker 1: love Captain America kicks ass, Twain incredibly eloquent. Captain America

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Speaker 1: definitely stronger on the whoop ass front. If you're fighting

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Speaker 1: the Winter Soldier, you want Captain America, not Mark Twain.

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Speaker 1: I agree completely. Anyway, here's what Twain said. It's a

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Speaker 1: little long, but I love it so much. Maybe we

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Speaker 1: can work in a little email later on. Let men

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Speaker 1: label you as they may. If you alone, of all

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Speaker 1: the nation, decide one way, and that way be the

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Speaker 1: right way. By your convictions of the right, You've done

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Speaker 1: your duty, by yourself and by your country, holding up

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Speaker 1: your head, for you have nothing to be ashamed of.

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Speaker 1: It doesn't matter what the press says. It doesn't matter

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Speaker 1: what the politicians or the mobs say. It doesn't matter

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Speaker 1: if the whole country decides that something wrong is something right.

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Speaker 1: Republics are founded on one prince above all else, the

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Speaker 1: requirement that we stand up for what we believe in,

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Speaker 1: no matter the odds or the consequences when the mob

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Speaker 1: and the press and the whole world tell you to move.

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Speaker 1: Your job is to plant yourself like a tree beside

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Speaker 1: the river of truth and tell the whole world, no,

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Speaker 1: you move.

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Speaker 2: Mark fing Twain, that's people understand, that's his middle name.

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Speaker 1: That's really good stuff if it's the right cause or thing.

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Speaker 1: Interestingly enough, and maybe I'll explain later why this happened.

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Speaker 1: I was listening to a speech last night, FBI recordings

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Speaker 1: He gave a very similar speech there, as he had

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Speaker 1: convinced all those numb nuts that the world was out

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Speaker 1: to get them and they were doing the right thing.

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Speaker 2: I'm very similar speech. I had no idea you'd heard that.

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Speaker 1: I knew in my heart of hearts you would come

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Speaker 1: up with some counter argument against that thought.

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Speaker 2: I'm not it.

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Speaker 1: It just you just have to have you just have

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Speaker 1: to just you know, it works when the cause is right.

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Speaker 2: Right.

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Speaker 4: But that's irrelevant as an as an observation of society.

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Speaker 4: It's one hundred percent correct as a principle that some

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Speaker 4: people employ it wrongly is irrelevant?

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Speaker 2: You're right. I think it's a moral principle. Both are true.

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Speaker 1: Joe and Ventura, California. Notice this on my local free

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that's all. I see.

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Speaker 1: How much the people that are working their ass off

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Speaker 2: The street, he says.

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Speaker 4: Wouldn't it be ironic if this was a planned social

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Speaker 4: own caption on this photo? Well, thanks, Joe. That's interesting.

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