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Speaker 1: We are joined in the Giants Huddle for an instant

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Speaker 1: reaction from Giants broadcaster and Super Bowl champion Howard Cross

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Speaker 1: following the giants thirty eight to eleven loss to the

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Speaker 1: Los Angeles Rams. Howard another difficult one for the Giants,

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Speaker 1: But truth of the matter was early on in this

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Speaker 1: game they were down fourteen to three, and then the

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Speaker 1: last five minutes of the first half it really got

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Speaker 1: away from them when the Rams went on two touchdown drives,

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Speaker 1: one following an interception and the other one at seventy

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Speaker 1: three yard march, and that was just too much again

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Speaker 1: for this team to come back from. Well, you know,

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Speaker 1: they did pretty good in the first quarter. They kind

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Speaker 1: of hold some kind of record, I think with Buffalo

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Speaker 1: only given up three points between the two teams in

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Speaker 1: the first quarter, which is pretty good. In the second quarter,

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Speaker 1: things got away from kind of quickly. We had some

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Speaker 1: players go down. Tony was out of the game, which

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Speaker 1: kind of eliminates some of the offense immediately, uh sake.

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Speaker 1: One wasn't active, so that was another part of the offense.

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Speaker 1: This just down and then Joe and then Thomas got

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Speaker 1: got knicked up. And once Thomas gets nicked up at

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Speaker 1: left tackle, there's another officive line shuffle. And so as

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Speaker 1: far as the defense goes, they're playing on the short

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Speaker 1: field constantly. You play on short field the Rams, you're

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Speaker 1: gonna get scored. So in one quarter they gave up

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Speaker 1: twenty eight points. It's a big number, but understandable for

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Speaker 1: some of some of the mistakes and some of the

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Speaker 1: losses that Giants have. You mentioned about the defense. Now,

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Speaker 1: early on they had two third down stacks. Lanud Williams

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Speaker 1: was involved in both of them to force punch as

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Speaker 1: the Giants were trying to hang in there. But then

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Speaker 1: offensively they couldn't take advantage and do anything with those possessions.

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Speaker 1: You're playing against Aaron Donald on a pretty good defensive front,

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Speaker 1: and you're playing against the secondary that has Jalen Ramsey,

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Speaker 1: and it if you don't have all your you know,

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Speaker 1: ducks in order, it is going to be a big battle.

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Speaker 1: And the Giants just kind of fell into that one.

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Speaker 1: And if you notice, you know, they rushed with four

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Speaker 1: down guys. They're very rarely brought an extra rusher. The

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Speaker 1: four down guys were getting there. You know, the four

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Speaker 1: gaps and the holes are. You mentioned the Giants were

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Speaker 1: short on bullets coming in with some of their explosive

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Speaker 1: players and naked Darius Tony, who came in with a

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Speaker 1: sore ankle, tried to go gave them some good moves

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Speaker 1: and quicks early, and then had to go out again.

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Speaker 1: Just a game of gamer's effort. Man, he had a

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Speaker 1: few catches right off the bat like he was gonna

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Speaker 1: be able to go the whole game, and then the

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Speaker 1: next tackle they kind of twisted him when he was

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Speaker 1: going down. On the twist going down, he just couldn't

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Speaker 1: you know. That was just too much for the ankle.

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Speaker 1: What did you think the way the Giants came out,

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Speaker 1: They did throw the ball a lot. They went with

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Speaker 1: for a while it was working, and then maybe the

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Speaker 1: Rams made an adjustment. I think it was more of

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Speaker 1: like I said before, if you're ahead of the change,

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Speaker 1: you can do that. Right when it was first intend

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Speaker 1: you do it. Second and six or whatever, you can

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Speaker 1: But when this first and fifteen or second and fifteen

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Speaker 1: like this is the difference between the Giants and the Rams.

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Speaker 1: and it seems like the fifteen guys out there, they've

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Speaker 1: made their way over. Uh, they're they're coming inside out

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Speaker 1: and you were forced to stay outside. And if the

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Speaker 1: Tell me about the emotion of taking the ball fourteen play,

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Speaker 1: that's a win for the defense. After you watch all

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Speaker 1: I don't know how hard this is for the Giants.

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Speaker 1: Was followed, but I know they're gonna they should be

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Speaker 1: sitting in a complaint, uh, to the only officials, because

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Speaker 1: and the referee comes back and goes, oh, he couldn't

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Speaker 1: catch it. It It was out of reach. And in any

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Speaker 1: the opposite side, the field gets touched or bumped after

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Speaker 1: five yards, They're like illegal contact. I'm like, how could

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Speaker 1: the referees are making a bad call or whatever. I

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Speaker 1: don't understand. I've seen it two weeks in a row

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Speaker 1: where the defender is impeding the receiver, he's more than

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Speaker 1: right there. They throw the flag before the balls even

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Speaker 1: that's still the penalty. They haven't called it, and I'm

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Speaker 1: But that's a score right there. That that's either a

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Speaker 1: I just don't understand that one other drop or missed

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Speaker 1: Jabe McKinney has a shot at an interception off the

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Speaker 1: tip ball by Reggie Ragland. Giants seemed to have an

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Speaker 1: inordinate number of dropped interception, so many chances to get

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Speaker 1: he didn't have two interceptions, you know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 1: So if he has two interceptions, but he missed the

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Speaker 1: when when you do miss the play, especially one like that,

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Speaker 1: you think that they've got to somewhat change their offensive

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Speaker 1: who's a blazer. He can he can smoke it. Tony

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Speaker 1: coming off with a hamstring injury. Looked like he had

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Speaker 1: about Daniel Jones for a little bit. Had the concussion

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Speaker 1: last week against Dallas, was able to pass the protocol,

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Speaker 1: Super Bowl Champion tight end Howard Cross, member of the

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Speaker 1: Giants broadcast team, here in the huddle with instant reaction

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Speaker 1: to the giants thirty to eleven loss to the Los

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Speaker 1: Angeles Rams. You can find this program on giants dot com,

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Speaker 1: the Giants Mobile app, and podcast platforms everywhere. For Howard Cross,

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Speaker 1: I'm Paulatino. We'll talk to you next time. Everybody,