1 00:00:01,040 --> 00:00:05,280 Speaker 1: Look man, oh, I see you. Why look over there? 2 00:00:05,280 --> 00:00:15,840 Speaker 1: How is that culture? Yes? Goodness? Culture? Now? Bo. You 3 00:00:15,920 --> 00:00:18,520 Speaker 1: sort of asked me how I was doing before we started. 4 00:00:18,840 --> 00:00:23,120 Speaker 1: Remember I remember asking you, and I feel like I'm 5 00:00:23,160 --> 00:00:25,480 Speaker 1: not gonna like the answer. And you know, you know 6 00:00:26,200 --> 00:00:29,960 Speaker 1: that moment right before you step into a party and 7 00:00:30,000 --> 00:00:32,720 Speaker 1: you go, I'm not gonna like this the energy you 8 00:00:32,720 --> 00:00:37,200 Speaker 1: can already feel there's something going on. Well, step into 9 00:00:37,200 --> 00:00:40,239 Speaker 1: the party, babe. At the party is an ear infection. 10 00:00:40,680 --> 00:00:42,000 Speaker 1: I heard it was a double I hear it was 11 00:00:42,040 --> 00:00:45,000 Speaker 1: a double ear infection, double ear infection in one ear, 12 00:00:45,600 --> 00:00:49,840 Speaker 1: an outer and inner ear infection. I can not here 13 00:00:49,880 --> 00:00:52,519 Speaker 1: out of my right ear. It is a challenge. And 14 00:00:52,560 --> 00:00:55,320 Speaker 1: they've got me on a steroid right now, Bo that 15 00:00:55,640 --> 00:00:57,720 Speaker 1: I'm really sorry. I'm not using it at the gym 16 00:00:57,760 --> 00:00:59,520 Speaker 1: because I think I could, like, you know, not to 17 00:00:59,760 --> 00:01:02,320 Speaker 1: not blow the load on the book here. But mom 18 00:01:02,400 --> 00:01:04,680 Speaker 1: left a car, you know, like when a mom car 19 00:01:05,680 --> 00:01:07,880 Speaker 1: on the steroid they have me on from my ear infection. 20 00:01:07,920 --> 00:01:09,800 Speaker 1: I think I lift a car. We'll get ready for 21 00:01:09,840 --> 00:01:13,280 Speaker 1: your nipples to look insane. You're not going on s 22 00:01:14,160 --> 00:01:17,640 Speaker 1: forbid you? Well, it's too late, Bow, because on Wednesday 23 00:01:17,640 --> 00:01:19,360 Speaker 1: I went in and they put me on antbiotics and 24 00:01:19,360 --> 00:01:21,959 Speaker 1: gave me a shot of steroids in the ass, and 25 00:01:22,040 --> 00:01:25,479 Speaker 1: today I got another one because my ear infection refuses 26 00:01:25,720 --> 00:01:29,160 Speaker 1: to tame. This is actually, this is really actually freaking me. 27 00:01:29,240 --> 00:01:33,200 Speaker 1: I'm really scared. I'm so scared. Oh no, and I'm sorry. 28 00:01:33,240 --> 00:01:36,280 Speaker 1: I'm not being like, I'm not like assuaging anything. You 29 00:01:36,319 --> 00:01:39,000 Speaker 1: are being perfect. Can I say something? You're being perfect? 30 00:01:39,040 --> 00:01:42,320 Speaker 1: Want of a wife? Because you're being something, say I'm 31 00:01:42,400 --> 00:01:47,039 Speaker 1: story stewarding you. As we've learned from Atlas of the 32 00:01:47,120 --> 00:01:52,480 Speaker 1: Heart by Bernie Brown. Atlas of the Heart, everyone must watch. 33 00:01:53,120 --> 00:01:55,520 Speaker 1: Everyone must watch Atlas of the Heart because I took notes. 34 00:01:55,560 --> 00:01:57,840 Speaker 1: I told you I took notes. I took notes mentally, 35 00:01:57,840 --> 00:02:00,480 Speaker 1: I didn't write anything down, but I am of Atlas 36 00:02:00,480 --> 00:02:03,160 Speaker 1: of the Heart today in a sorry industry term. In general, 37 00:02:04,120 --> 00:02:06,240 Speaker 1: I was like, you have to watch Atlas of the 38 00:02:06,240 --> 00:02:08,400 Speaker 1: Heart and the one where they were okay, well, she 39 00:02:08,480 --> 00:02:11,880 Speaker 1: literally had the book like when I described it to her, 40 00:02:11,880 --> 00:02:14,160 Speaker 1: she kind of like checked out and like wasn't making 41 00:02:14,200 --> 00:02:16,440 Speaker 1: eye contact with me over zoom and I was like, okay, 42 00:02:16,440 --> 00:02:18,000 Speaker 1: so I guess you I don't know what you're trying 43 00:02:18,040 --> 00:02:20,799 Speaker 1: to communicate with me to me, not nonverbally, are you 44 00:02:20,840 --> 00:02:23,120 Speaker 1: are you interested? Are you not? Here was my sort 45 00:02:23,120 --> 00:02:27,079 Speaker 1: of vibe in in absorbing Brenne Brown, and I would 46 00:02:27,120 --> 00:02:30,600 Speaker 1: say to anyone at any general or or or outside 47 00:02:30,600 --> 00:02:32,800 Speaker 1: of a general, what you're gonna want to do is 48 00:02:32,800 --> 00:02:37,000 Speaker 1: you're gonna want to drink one of these thhc Seltzer's 49 00:02:37,040 --> 00:02:41,440 Speaker 1: by wonder from higher vibes. We're not getting an ad. 50 00:02:41,240 --> 00:02:43,160 Speaker 1: But this is not an ad. It's just me sort 51 00:02:43,200 --> 00:02:48,560 Speaker 1: of just extolling praise on this beverage which I'm drinking, 52 00:02:48,600 --> 00:02:53,160 Speaker 1: a BlackBerry lemon beverage. God. And I sat here and 53 00:02:53,320 --> 00:02:56,080 Speaker 1: I was so touched by what Brenne was saying that 54 00:02:56,160 --> 00:03:00,880 Speaker 1: I wrote down these things. Connection is a listening and 55 00:03:00,960 --> 00:03:07,240 Speaker 1: believing Okay, look at this. Nothingness is the answer to overwhelm. 56 00:03:07,280 --> 00:03:09,760 Speaker 1: If you don't feel overwhelmed, the answer is to just 57 00:03:09,840 --> 00:03:13,040 Speaker 1: do nothing, sit down, do nothing if you can, not 58 00:03:13,120 --> 00:03:17,440 Speaker 1: if you're a mother, not if you're parents. The enemy 59 00:03:17,480 --> 00:03:21,240 Speaker 1: of connection is control. That was like the last episode. 60 00:03:21,360 --> 00:03:23,480 Speaker 1: I know all of this, Honey, you don't have to 61 00:03:23,560 --> 00:03:26,600 Speaker 1: tell me when I saw the enemy of connection is control. 62 00:03:26,800 --> 00:03:32,560 Speaker 1: That really it really was a watershed bernet. It's actually 63 00:03:32,600 --> 00:03:39,360 Speaker 1: rule culture number forty four has a way, and I 64 00:03:39,400 --> 00:03:42,960 Speaker 1: was just totally overwhelmed by all of this. And honestly, 65 00:03:43,240 --> 00:03:46,800 Speaker 1: I'm employing a lot of these these sort of mantras 66 00:03:46,880 --> 00:03:49,440 Speaker 1: because when I tell you, the ear infection comes a 67 00:03:49,520 --> 00:03:51,160 Speaker 1: day before I need to fly to New York to 68 00:03:51,200 --> 00:03:53,600 Speaker 1: do Watch What Happens Live, which readers of this podcast, no, 69 00:03:54,280 --> 00:03:58,920 Speaker 1: is my one true drink huge and I will not 70 00:03:59,240 --> 00:04:02,560 Speaker 1: allow an ear infection to stop me from promoting the 71 00:04:02,640 --> 00:04:06,120 Speaker 1: upcoming I love that for you on the television program 72 00:04:06,120 --> 00:04:08,560 Speaker 1: Watch What Happens Live. Now, that's interesting because it's also 73 00:04:08,560 --> 00:04:10,480 Speaker 1: a segue bow. It's also a segue. But can I 74 00:04:10,520 --> 00:04:13,680 Speaker 1: just really quickly propose that you ask you pull a 75 00:04:13,760 --> 00:04:17,279 Speaker 1: Mariah Carey famous the Mariah carry on Watch what Happens Well, 76 00:04:17,279 --> 00:04:20,320 Speaker 1: I've asked Andy to flip to the other side so 77 00:04:20,360 --> 00:04:22,280 Speaker 1: that they could get her good side. And I think 78 00:04:22,320 --> 00:04:24,240 Speaker 1: if you can't hear, if you're out of your right ear, 79 00:04:24,360 --> 00:04:26,000 Speaker 1: then that means you have to sort of flip over 80 00:04:27,640 --> 00:04:30,040 Speaker 1: in order to hear best. I should sit in Andy 81 00:04:30,160 --> 00:04:33,080 Speaker 1: seat so that my left ear can be nearest to 82 00:04:33,920 --> 00:04:40,520 Speaker 1: the grand dumb herself, car and Andy Cohen Andrew Cohne. 83 00:04:40,839 --> 00:04:44,280 Speaker 1: I will not allow any ear nonsense. And I know, 84 00:04:44,440 --> 00:04:46,880 Speaker 1: I know historically they're exacerbated by flights, but I will 85 00:04:46,920 --> 00:04:49,000 Speaker 1: not let us stop me. I'm going to New York 86 00:04:49,080 --> 00:04:52,000 Speaker 1: and by the time this airs, the episode will have 87 00:04:52,040 --> 00:04:53,640 Speaker 1: air and have watched What Happens Live by the time 88 00:04:53,680 --> 00:04:56,200 Speaker 1: you listen to this podcast episode, I should say, and 89 00:04:56,279 --> 00:04:58,919 Speaker 1: so just pray that I made it, and pray that 90 00:04:59,000 --> 00:05:01,400 Speaker 1: on April seventeen, if I was on watch It Happens 91 00:05:01,400 --> 00:05:04,080 Speaker 1: Live with Karen Huger. Honey, You're going to do great. 92 00:05:04,520 --> 00:05:06,360 Speaker 1: This is one of those things where like you deserve 93 00:05:06,400 --> 00:05:09,960 Speaker 1: this more than anybody I know. Thank you. I excited. Yes, 94 00:05:10,279 --> 00:05:12,600 Speaker 1: do you do you agree? I actually think I've put 95 00:05:12,680 --> 00:05:14,480 Speaker 1: in the hard yards and I think if I'm gonna 96 00:05:14,520 --> 00:05:17,360 Speaker 1: have my very first televised talk show appearance and has 97 00:05:17,360 --> 00:05:19,200 Speaker 1: to be watched it Happens Live. When they told me 98 00:05:19,240 --> 00:05:21,839 Speaker 1: it was with Karen Hugar, I fell out of my chair. 99 00:05:21,960 --> 00:05:24,480 Speaker 1: I was one of the best on the show. I 100 00:05:24,520 --> 00:05:26,480 Speaker 1: love that for you, getting ready for my big take, 101 00:05:26,680 --> 00:05:29,560 Speaker 1: and they told me it was Karen Huger, and I 102 00:05:29,640 --> 00:05:32,599 Speaker 1: fell out of the chair. No one could understand why 103 00:05:32,640 --> 00:05:37,719 Speaker 1: I was so by. My faculties were so gone, but wow, Wow, 104 00:05:38,080 --> 00:05:41,360 Speaker 1: I'm so excited. I'm so excited for you going on 105 00:05:41,440 --> 00:05:44,080 Speaker 1: watch it Happens Life to promote I Love That for You, 106 00:05:44,800 --> 00:05:50,400 Speaker 1: premiering on Showtime April what twenty ninth streaming and it 107 00:05:50,480 --> 00:05:53,880 Speaker 1: airs on Sunday, May one. I don't understand it, but 108 00:05:54,000 --> 00:05:57,000 Speaker 1: that's what's happening. And apparently there's a president for the 109 00:05:57,040 --> 00:05:59,400 Speaker 1: streaming on Friday's. We don't We don't have to get it. 110 00:05:59,440 --> 00:06:00,960 Speaker 1: We don't have to get it to get into that's 111 00:06:01,000 --> 00:06:03,440 Speaker 1: not our job. But here's the thing about our guests. 112 00:06:03,839 --> 00:06:08,440 Speaker 1: The showrunner, the show runner, most powerful person in Hollywood. 113 00:06:08,520 --> 00:06:11,320 Speaker 1: One might say, I feel like this, this is a 114 00:06:11,360 --> 00:06:15,560 Speaker 1: major moment. I have loved this person for such a 115 00:06:15,600 --> 00:06:19,840 Speaker 1: long time. Hello, Hello, I I just have to say, like, 116 00:06:20,160 --> 00:06:23,919 Speaker 1: when I first met the guest, it was my callback 117 00:06:23,960 --> 00:06:25,800 Speaker 1: audition for I Love That for You, And I was 118 00:06:26,560 --> 00:06:29,719 Speaker 1: very nervous to meet her because then it's like a 119 00:06:29,760 --> 00:06:31,400 Speaker 1: thing of you have to go be funny in front 120 00:06:31,400 --> 00:06:34,719 Speaker 1: of the funniest person. What And she's someone who's like, 121 00:06:34,760 --> 00:06:38,039 Speaker 1: she's not like these other people who like not like 122 00:06:38,080 --> 00:06:40,040 Speaker 1: the other girls dip their to not like the other 123 00:06:40,040 --> 00:06:43,359 Speaker 1: girls who dip their toe into like memoir essays and 124 00:06:43,680 --> 00:06:46,320 Speaker 1: you know, kind of phone it in. This is this 125 00:06:46,400 --> 00:06:50,520 Speaker 1: is long form. She's a long form writer writing. It's 126 00:06:50,600 --> 00:06:53,880 Speaker 1: writing Capital W. And the guest is such an amazing writer. 127 00:06:54,240 --> 00:06:57,800 Speaker 1: And the new book, which is out April, it's called 128 00:06:58,200 --> 00:07:01,760 Speaker 1: I'll Show Myself Out. It's stays on midlife and motherhood. 129 00:07:02,160 --> 00:07:06,360 Speaker 1: I am absolutely loving this and it's really caused me 130 00:07:06,480 --> 00:07:08,799 Speaker 1: to I don't know about you, bo, but like really 131 00:07:08,880 --> 00:07:14,160 Speaker 1: renegotiate and like think again about me being a child 132 00:07:14,280 --> 00:07:17,720 Speaker 1: and thinking more and really considering my mother in a 133 00:07:17,760 --> 00:07:20,680 Speaker 1: way that I never had until reading this. And I 134 00:07:20,760 --> 00:07:23,320 Speaker 1: just can't say enough about it. It's so funny, it's 135 00:07:23,360 --> 00:07:27,280 Speaker 1: so it's so smart, it's the right so like, oh 136 00:07:27,280 --> 00:07:30,640 Speaker 1: my god, like I've never seen that sense before. It hits, 137 00:07:30,840 --> 00:07:33,280 Speaker 1: it hits. I just finished it today. I loved it. 138 00:07:33,480 --> 00:07:36,960 Speaker 1: Just the end is really special. Yes, let's tell us 139 00:07:37,000 --> 00:07:38,480 Speaker 1: to her in person while we look at her through this. 140 00:07:38,480 --> 00:07:41,680 Speaker 1: We're going to tell this to her in person. And um, listen, 141 00:07:41,720 --> 00:07:44,040 Speaker 1: I mean you may know and love our guests. Actually, 142 00:07:44,440 --> 00:07:47,360 Speaker 1: we spoke about voiceover before beak behind the Curtain. We 143 00:07:47,360 --> 00:07:49,880 Speaker 1: were all chatting about, you know, setting up tech to 144 00:07:49,920 --> 00:07:52,960 Speaker 1: record our voices during the pandemic. You may know our 145 00:07:53,040 --> 00:07:56,840 Speaker 1: guests as Jesse on Big Mouth. Okay, so that's sort 146 00:07:56,840 --> 00:08:01,200 Speaker 1: of an on camera extraordinaire animated send and then also 147 00:08:01,320 --> 00:08:04,520 Speaker 1: Emmy winner for Inside. Amy Schumer truly one of those 148 00:08:04,520 --> 00:08:08,520 Speaker 1: people that's that's worked on everything good and that will 149 00:08:08,560 --> 00:08:11,480 Speaker 1: continue because when I tell you, she's just such an 150 00:08:11,480 --> 00:08:14,760 Speaker 1: incredible force behind I love that for you the series 151 00:08:14,760 --> 00:08:16,680 Speaker 1: I'm lucky enough to be on with Vanessa bay Or, 152 00:08:16,680 --> 00:08:19,960 Speaker 1: Molly Shan and Jennifer Lewis at all. I'm just so 153 00:08:20,520 --> 00:08:24,080 Speaker 1: excited to work with this person, and I'm just incredibly 154 00:08:24,120 --> 00:08:26,320 Speaker 1: bowled over and honored that she's here to be on 155 00:08:26,400 --> 00:08:31,240 Speaker 1: Lost Cultures. That's so please welcome into your ears. Jesse Claude. 156 00:08:32,160 --> 00:08:35,400 Speaker 1: Oh my god, you guys. I don't know if I 157 00:08:35,440 --> 00:08:39,840 Speaker 1: want to cry or throw up or both. It might 158 00:08:39,880 --> 00:08:45,240 Speaker 1: be booth my hair moment. Guys are so nice. Thank 159 00:08:45,240 --> 00:08:48,320 Speaker 1: you for saying such nice things. I am truly flipping 160 00:08:48,360 --> 00:08:52,559 Speaker 1: out to be on this with you, guys. Deservings. I 161 00:08:52,559 --> 00:08:55,320 Speaker 1: I told you, but right before we started recording, um, 162 00:08:55,400 --> 00:08:57,320 Speaker 1: your last book You'll go out of it was like 163 00:08:57,360 --> 00:09:01,320 Speaker 1: my last great like subway read and like it was 164 00:09:01,360 --> 00:09:02,640 Speaker 1: it was just but it was just one of those 165 00:09:02,679 --> 00:09:05,959 Speaker 1: books where I was like, damn, like I feel like 166 00:09:06,080 --> 00:09:08,640 Speaker 1: she's really you write with I don't know, such like 167 00:09:08,640 --> 00:09:10,840 Speaker 1: a crispness, and I don't I don't mean to throw 168 00:09:10,880 --> 00:09:13,720 Speaker 1: these words in you like I don't know, sound a 169 00:09:13,760 --> 00:09:18,040 Speaker 1: little I don't know, just like out of like it's 170 00:09:18,120 --> 00:09:20,960 Speaker 1: the source or something. But like it was, I don't know, 171 00:09:21,040 --> 00:09:23,320 Speaker 1: it's it's just it's it's it's a really sharp book. 172 00:09:23,360 --> 00:09:25,440 Speaker 1: And I and the reading this, I was like kind 173 00:09:25,440 --> 00:09:28,760 Speaker 1: of expecting something similar, but this is totally structured in 174 00:09:29,080 --> 00:09:31,880 Speaker 1: such an interesting different way that I was like once 175 00:09:31,920 --> 00:09:34,720 Speaker 1: again sort of blown away by like the thing you're 176 00:09:34,760 --> 00:09:38,360 Speaker 1: trying to write being so unlike a lot of things 177 00:09:38,360 --> 00:09:40,920 Speaker 1: that like people who work in comedy do that. Does 178 00:09:40,920 --> 00:09:43,920 Speaker 1: that make sense? No? I um, well again, I'm just 179 00:09:44,120 --> 00:09:46,439 Speaker 1: I'm so, I'm so glad you read the first one. 180 00:09:46,480 --> 00:09:52,800 Speaker 1: On the subway. Um on the subway or on the 181 00:09:52,800 --> 00:09:54,960 Speaker 1: toilet is really where I want my words to be 182 00:09:55,160 --> 00:09:58,760 Speaker 1: good all the books. So I'm telling you, I wish 183 00:09:58,760 --> 00:10:02,160 Speaker 1: I could bead on the subway more. Sorry, sorry to listen. Wise, 184 00:10:02,200 --> 00:10:04,400 Speaker 1: maybe got a little daisy, but you know, so that 185 00:10:04,480 --> 00:10:07,040 Speaker 1: leaves us with the toilet. I guess, but and I 186 00:10:07,080 --> 00:10:09,520 Speaker 1: do believe in like having a book by the toilet. 187 00:10:09,559 --> 00:10:12,080 Speaker 1: I just I'm not trying to be like a flip 188 00:10:12,080 --> 00:10:13,760 Speaker 1: in about it. I think that's a great a great 189 00:10:13,800 --> 00:10:17,120 Speaker 1: place to eat, but um, it's so funny. Like that 190 00:10:17,160 --> 00:10:22,120 Speaker 1: first book, I was really kind of unemployed when I got, like, 191 00:10:23,040 --> 00:10:24,840 Speaker 1: not really the offer to write the book. I was 192 00:10:24,880 --> 00:10:27,000 Speaker 1: hooked up with a book agent by my manager at 193 00:10:27,000 --> 00:10:30,080 Speaker 1: the time, and I was really kind of I guess. 194 00:10:30,760 --> 00:10:33,680 Speaker 1: I think we had just finished shooting the first season 195 00:10:33,720 --> 00:10:35,920 Speaker 1: of Inside Ami Schumer, and so we didn't know that 196 00:10:35,960 --> 00:10:37,840 Speaker 1: people would like it. We didn't know if it would 197 00:10:37,840 --> 00:10:39,760 Speaker 1: come back. I started. I mean, I liked it, but 198 00:10:39,800 --> 00:10:44,079 Speaker 1: I just assumed most things don't really go the way 199 00:10:44,120 --> 00:10:46,640 Speaker 1: you want them too. So I kind of was I 200 00:10:46,679 --> 00:10:48,880 Speaker 1: was out of a job. I didn't have anything else 201 00:10:48,960 --> 00:10:52,160 Speaker 1: to do. And then um, I met this book agent, 202 00:10:52,200 --> 00:10:54,440 Speaker 1: David Keuton, who was very encouraging and had read just 203 00:10:54,480 --> 00:10:57,200 Speaker 1: like little bits and pieces of things I had, I 204 00:10:57,200 --> 00:10:59,480 Speaker 1: don't know, little essays here and there that were around 205 00:10:59,480 --> 00:11:03,760 Speaker 1: maybe internets or something, and anyway, I just wrote it 206 00:11:03,800 --> 00:11:08,240 Speaker 1: really kind of on like a lark, Like we shopped 207 00:11:08,240 --> 00:11:10,080 Speaker 1: it and someone bought it, and I just was like, 208 00:11:10,120 --> 00:11:13,200 Speaker 1: oh books, don't No one cares about a book. But 209 00:11:13,640 --> 00:11:15,200 Speaker 1: what I have to do? I mean, I was just 210 00:11:15,280 --> 00:11:19,720 Speaker 1: wandering these streets. I had nothing, and I would go 211 00:11:19,840 --> 00:11:23,280 Speaker 1: sit at a little like cupcake wine shop, you know 212 00:11:23,320 --> 00:11:25,000 Speaker 1: where I was living in New York at the time. 213 00:11:25,920 --> 00:11:30,599 Speaker 1: Just you're welcome, and just got like a cupcake and 214 00:11:30,640 --> 00:11:33,600 Speaker 1: a glass of wine at like a tight eleven thirty 215 00:11:33,640 --> 00:11:38,480 Speaker 1: am and just type away. And then they became a book. 216 00:11:38,840 --> 00:11:40,560 Speaker 1: It became a book. But like, I still think about 217 00:11:41,520 --> 00:11:46,240 Speaker 1: versus wolves all the time. I still versus wools, poodles 218 00:11:46,240 --> 00:11:48,480 Speaker 1: and walls. I think about this se you wrote about 219 00:11:49,280 --> 00:11:51,920 Speaker 1: working at SNL and just thinking in terms of like 220 00:11:52,000 --> 00:11:56,720 Speaker 1: the the the different levels of like not envy that 221 00:11:56,800 --> 00:11:59,240 Speaker 1: you feel, but like the levels of like, man, I 222 00:11:59,320 --> 00:12:01,120 Speaker 1: wish I could be in that place. And then you 223 00:12:01,160 --> 00:12:02,679 Speaker 1: get to the place and you're like, I wish you 224 00:12:02,679 --> 00:12:05,440 Speaker 1: could mean this other more inner circle of the place. 225 00:12:05,480 --> 00:12:06,960 Speaker 1: And then you get into that inner circle and then 226 00:12:07,000 --> 00:12:09,280 Speaker 1: you're like, oh, there's yet another inner circle that I 227 00:12:09,559 --> 00:12:11,400 Speaker 1: want to try and get into and like and it 228 00:12:11,520 --> 00:12:13,800 Speaker 1: just leads like into the deepest part of Lauren's brain, 229 00:12:14,120 --> 00:12:17,439 Speaker 1: Like how can I just go into like Laurence exactly 230 00:12:18,960 --> 00:12:26,720 Speaker 1: of a sudden, I look the same as hers. Everything 231 00:12:26,760 --> 00:12:28,760 Speaker 1: is the same. It's the same, it's the same, it's 232 00:12:28,760 --> 00:12:30,080 Speaker 1: the same. But that But then I think it, like 233 00:12:30,200 --> 00:12:31,880 Speaker 1: was why didn't like scolpted it out to like this 234 00:12:31,960 --> 00:12:34,280 Speaker 1: concept of like and this was like when we were 235 00:12:34,320 --> 00:12:36,400 Speaker 1: starting to like figure out that this was like a 236 00:12:36,440 --> 00:12:38,640 Speaker 1: thing that everyone was doing dealing with the social media, 237 00:12:38,720 --> 00:12:41,920 Speaker 1: Like when you see someone's like beach vacation photos, like 238 00:12:43,080 --> 00:12:44,720 Speaker 1: try to like resist that or to be like I 239 00:12:44,720 --> 00:12:46,640 Speaker 1: wish I was there, because once you're there, you're like, oh, 240 00:12:46,679 --> 00:12:48,000 Speaker 1: it's not what I thought it would be. Anyway, I 241 00:12:48,000 --> 00:12:50,000 Speaker 1: just think that that what like you like we're able 242 00:12:50,040 --> 00:12:53,040 Speaker 1: to take like this NL sort of narrative and then 243 00:12:53,080 --> 00:12:56,240 Speaker 1: like make it seem very universal and anyway, I just 244 00:12:56,320 --> 00:13:00,040 Speaker 1: the like not being a mother. I like read this 245 00:13:00,040 --> 00:13:02,480 Speaker 1: this new book, and I was like, damn, like how 246 00:13:02,520 --> 00:13:05,560 Speaker 1: am I? It's it's so wonderful that like I'm able 247 00:13:05,600 --> 00:13:09,680 Speaker 1: to like read it and go, I'm going to reevaluate 248 00:13:09,720 --> 00:13:13,240 Speaker 1: things about my own life. Oh my god. Really Also 249 00:13:13,440 --> 00:13:15,640 Speaker 1: that's so it's such a relief to hear because I 250 00:13:15,679 --> 00:13:19,120 Speaker 1: feel like, um, I just sort of knew with this, 251 00:13:19,720 --> 00:13:21,760 Speaker 1: like I guess my son was maybe like around my 252 00:13:21,800 --> 00:13:25,240 Speaker 1: son is almost seven now, and I don't know. It 253 00:13:25,320 --> 00:13:27,280 Speaker 1: just sort of struck me like when he was around 254 00:13:27,320 --> 00:13:29,320 Speaker 1: like two wish or three ish, like, oh, maybe I 255 00:13:29,320 --> 00:13:31,000 Speaker 1: would like start to write a book about what this 256 00:13:31,080 --> 00:13:33,920 Speaker 1: experience has been like. But and I started talking about 257 00:13:33,960 --> 00:13:37,000 Speaker 1: at the beginning of the book to like, does anybody 258 00:13:37,080 --> 00:13:41,160 Speaker 1: give like one hot funk about like reading about parenthood 259 00:13:41,200 --> 00:13:43,480 Speaker 1: if they're not a parent. I know I've read books 260 00:13:43,480 --> 00:13:46,600 Speaker 1: where like I didn't care about it so much, but 261 00:13:46,640 --> 00:13:49,440 Speaker 1: I was like I kind of wanted to just approach 262 00:13:49,480 --> 00:13:52,600 Speaker 1: it from like this is this is like what I've 263 00:13:52,600 --> 00:13:55,480 Speaker 1: been going through. And also like I guess for me 264 00:13:55,600 --> 00:13:57,760 Speaker 1: being a mother, I did start to reconsider my own 265 00:13:57,800 --> 00:14:00,880 Speaker 1: relationship with my with both of my parents, but especially 266 00:14:00,960 --> 00:14:02,880 Speaker 1: my mom, who I you know, I adore and I 267 00:14:02,960 --> 00:14:07,280 Speaker 1: love her, but I was like, did she feel this 268 00:14:07,520 --> 00:14:10,240 Speaker 1: level of like get me the funk out of here 269 00:14:10,840 --> 00:14:13,440 Speaker 1: when I was a kid. And I can't speak for 270 00:14:13,760 --> 00:14:16,120 Speaker 1: you know, all parents or mothers, but I feel like 271 00:14:16,640 --> 00:14:19,880 Speaker 1: if someone says no, they're lying. Well, Yeah. There was 272 00:14:19,920 --> 00:14:22,400 Speaker 1: a moment where and it was, um, there's a moment 273 00:14:22,400 --> 00:14:27,320 Speaker 1: in the book where you discuss sitting with Asher trying 274 00:14:27,440 --> 00:14:30,440 Speaker 1: to get him to use a public restroom, and you're 275 00:14:30,480 --> 00:14:34,560 Speaker 1: sitting because he's been successfully potty trained at home with 276 00:14:34,760 --> 00:14:39,040 Speaker 1: the smaller like a hero, peing like a hero at 277 00:14:39,040 --> 00:14:41,960 Speaker 1: home in the little plastic patty. I literally I had 278 00:14:42,160 --> 00:14:46,200 Speaker 1: I had an extreme vivid flashback and actually had to 279 00:14:46,240 --> 00:14:49,240 Speaker 1: put the book down and like walk around because for 280 00:14:49,360 --> 00:14:52,680 Speaker 1: the very first time, was transported back to when I 281 00:14:52,720 --> 00:14:55,320 Speaker 1: was a kid. When I was a small kid, I 282 00:14:55,400 --> 00:14:58,880 Speaker 1: was definitely afraid of getting the throat culture, like when 283 00:14:58,880 --> 00:15:01,640 Speaker 1: my throat was hurting. Yeah, and it still bothers me 284 00:15:01,640 --> 00:15:03,480 Speaker 1: a little bit, but I'm telling you, like Jesse, it 285 00:15:03,520 --> 00:15:05,880 Speaker 1: was like a thing where I knew I was going 286 00:15:05,920 --> 00:15:08,200 Speaker 1: to the doctor later in the day and would and 287 00:15:08,240 --> 00:15:11,080 Speaker 1: would be fidgety all day and cry. And then I 288 00:15:11,080 --> 00:15:15,400 Speaker 1: remember one time we didn't even get it successfully because 289 00:15:15,440 --> 00:15:18,520 Speaker 1: for ninety minutes, when I was like six or seven, 290 00:15:18,600 --> 00:15:22,360 Speaker 1: I screamed and cried. And this is this is what 291 00:15:22,440 --> 00:15:25,440 Speaker 1: struck me about it, because it was the very first 292 00:15:25,520 --> 00:15:28,160 Speaker 1: time reading your book that I act. And this is 293 00:15:28,160 --> 00:15:30,320 Speaker 1: what what really stirred me and got me got me 294 00:15:30,360 --> 00:15:33,760 Speaker 1: kind of emotional, was I had never considered my mother 295 00:15:34,200 --> 00:15:37,480 Speaker 1: as the main character of that situation. I had never 296 00:15:37,520 --> 00:15:41,440 Speaker 1: actually thought of her, who she was the only person 297 00:15:41,480 --> 00:15:43,520 Speaker 1: with me at the time. My father wasn't there, and 298 00:15:43,560 --> 00:15:47,680 Speaker 1: this older male doctor who was fed up with me 299 00:15:47,760 --> 00:15:51,120 Speaker 1: and letting my mother know it, and me as a 300 00:15:51,200 --> 00:15:54,680 Speaker 1: child obviously not having any like permanence outside of myself 301 00:15:54,880 --> 00:15:57,840 Speaker 1: only being focused on getting this fucking stick out of 302 00:15:57,840 --> 00:16:00,240 Speaker 1: my mouth and away from me and getting home to 303 00:16:00,240 --> 00:16:03,800 Speaker 1: watch TV or whatever. And I had never really thought 304 00:16:03,880 --> 00:16:07,080 Speaker 1: about what must be going on in my mother's head, 305 00:16:07,680 --> 00:16:10,000 Speaker 1: you know, as someone who just wants her child to 306 00:16:10,040 --> 00:16:12,920 Speaker 1: be healthy, who also probably has a thing going on 307 00:16:13,000 --> 00:16:15,000 Speaker 1: in her brain. Of this doctor is going to think 308 00:16:15,040 --> 00:16:17,640 Speaker 1: I'm a mother who can't control my son, who also 309 00:16:17,760 --> 00:16:20,680 Speaker 1: was stressed out because it's so simple, just sit there 310 00:16:20,680 --> 00:16:23,240 Speaker 1: and get the throat culture done. It's so easy. He 311 00:16:23,440 --> 00:16:25,800 Speaker 1: also was stressed out for the child and what they're 312 00:16:25,800 --> 00:16:29,160 Speaker 1: going through, then maybe even emotionally taking the kid's side, 313 00:16:29,200 --> 00:16:31,920 Speaker 1: because it is a lot it is going down his throat. 314 00:16:32,320 --> 00:16:35,680 Speaker 1: It has to be so much. And I'm telling you, 315 00:16:35,680 --> 00:16:38,000 Speaker 1: your book and your writing and the way that you 316 00:16:38,080 --> 00:16:42,000 Speaker 1: sort of described the situation got me to consider my 317 00:16:42,080 --> 00:16:44,120 Speaker 1: mother and my parents in a way that I never 318 00:16:44,200 --> 00:16:47,240 Speaker 1: had and it's like that throughout the book. I am 319 00:16:47,360 --> 00:16:49,480 Speaker 1: sure that is like, truly, you don't even know what 320 00:16:49,520 --> 00:16:51,320 Speaker 1: it means to me. I mean, I have many things 321 00:16:51,360 --> 00:16:54,600 Speaker 1: to say. I'm so touched. First of all, I mean, 322 00:16:54,640 --> 00:16:57,960 Speaker 1: that's like my dream of all this. Here are some 323 00:16:58,120 --> 00:17:01,040 Speaker 1: notes I was taking my mind while your one. I'm 324 00:17:01,080 --> 00:17:13,480 Speaker 1: sorry to say if you say the way performance better, No, 325 00:17:13,680 --> 00:17:15,880 Speaker 1: these are notes. These things I want to say. One, 326 00:17:16,359 --> 00:17:19,040 Speaker 1: I just want to talk about throw cultures. I still 327 00:17:19,160 --> 00:17:25,840 Speaker 1: cannot do them. Culture. It's why why is this still 328 00:17:25,880 --> 00:17:28,119 Speaker 1: the technology we're using to find out if we have 329 00:17:28,640 --> 00:17:30,639 Speaker 1: like the thing in the back of the wooden stick 330 00:17:30,680 --> 00:17:34,639 Speaker 1: on my tongue. Honestly, it creates so much anxiety and 331 00:17:34,680 --> 00:17:39,360 Speaker 1: stressing me. It's the worst. So poor young Matt Rogers 332 00:17:39,359 --> 00:17:41,960 Speaker 1: for us still having to do this. Well, that's the 333 00:17:42,000 --> 00:17:45,200 Speaker 1: first thing. Yeah. Secondly, well, and then I have something 334 00:17:45,240 --> 00:17:46,760 Speaker 1: to say about your ear infection. Two in a very 335 00:17:46,840 --> 00:17:48,480 Speaker 1: Jewish one way, I have thoughts for you about the plane. 336 00:17:48,520 --> 00:17:50,159 Speaker 1: But that's why I just don't let me forget that, 337 00:17:50,160 --> 00:17:53,600 Speaker 1: because it's important open to everything. Um. I mean. The 338 00:17:53,640 --> 00:17:56,720 Speaker 1: other thing is, you know, just like in all the 339 00:17:56,720 --> 00:17:59,080 Speaker 1: things you're taking off about, like thinking about your mom 340 00:17:59,119 --> 00:18:02,280 Speaker 1: in the situation, and I've with Asher like going to doctor. 341 00:18:02,600 --> 00:18:05,520 Speaker 1: I mean, it's better now because he's older, but those 342 00:18:05,520 --> 00:18:09,600 Speaker 1: moments of holding them down for shots, them screaming, the 343 00:18:09,760 --> 00:18:14,960 Speaker 1: like truly pleading, it's so heartbreaking and all of them, Yeah, 344 00:18:15,320 --> 00:18:17,840 Speaker 1: doctor's judging me and I can't control my kid. But 345 00:18:17,880 --> 00:18:20,480 Speaker 1: then the one other thing just to say is like, 346 00:18:21,080 --> 00:18:22,680 Speaker 1: and again, I don't know your mom, but I'm sure 347 00:18:22,680 --> 00:18:26,520 Speaker 1: she's a perfect person. She's a freaking perfect angel. Who 348 00:18:26,520 --> 00:18:31,960 Speaker 1: have raised an angel such as yourself, angels raising angels, 349 00:18:32,080 --> 00:18:36,440 Speaker 1: Like there's also like I mean the pieces where during 350 00:18:36,840 --> 00:18:38,880 Speaker 1: and also because when kids are really little, you're going 351 00:18:38,920 --> 00:18:41,719 Speaker 1: to the doctor like every week or at least like 352 00:18:41,880 --> 00:18:45,040 Speaker 1: we were at the doctor all the time. But they're 353 00:18:45,040 --> 00:18:47,639 Speaker 1: just the moments where I like, I just want to 354 00:18:47,680 --> 00:18:50,200 Speaker 1: be doing something else, like you want to be having 355 00:18:50,240 --> 00:18:53,560 Speaker 1: a drink. I want to know and like, you know, 356 00:18:53,640 --> 00:18:55,600 Speaker 1: there was like the thing I talked about the book, 357 00:18:55,600 --> 00:18:59,320 Speaker 1: like you don't ever leave behind, Like I'm still in 358 00:18:59,520 --> 00:19:02,679 Speaker 1: shock that I'm a mom, Like I'm I mean, I 359 00:19:02,720 --> 00:19:06,600 Speaker 1: love my kid and I'm like I do, but I 360 00:19:06,040 --> 00:19:14,000 Speaker 1: alway I used to blow guys like that's who I am? Yeah, 361 00:19:14,040 --> 00:19:16,200 Speaker 1: who I am as someone who blows guys, not someone 362 00:19:16,240 --> 00:19:18,760 Speaker 1: who sits right, pulls down a kid to get a 363 00:19:19,119 --> 00:19:22,640 Speaker 1: culture seeming at a baby trying to hold a baby down. 364 00:19:22,800 --> 00:19:26,840 Speaker 1: I am out doing stand up, like, oh my god, 365 00:19:26,119 --> 00:19:31,320 Speaker 1: yet something in my throat. I mean it was right there, 366 00:19:31,400 --> 00:19:35,239 Speaker 1: It was right there, but it's so oh. The other 367 00:19:35,280 --> 00:19:37,040 Speaker 1: thing is gonna say is I'm also just so sorry 368 00:19:37,080 --> 00:19:40,320 Speaker 1: to like use the word potty with like to grow 369 00:19:40,320 --> 00:19:42,280 Speaker 1: an adultmen, because I feel like it's such a disgusting 370 00:19:42,280 --> 00:19:44,800 Speaker 1: and masculating word. And anytime I hear the word potty, 371 00:19:44,840 --> 00:19:50,000 Speaker 1: I feel like everyone's like sex parts full off. I 372 00:19:50,040 --> 00:19:53,760 Speaker 1: don't think so, honey, just potty. No, But anyway, but 373 00:19:53,840 --> 00:19:55,960 Speaker 1: that was that little thing is called a potty. But 374 00:19:56,000 --> 00:19:57,919 Speaker 1: I'm sorry that it's even been raised this early in 375 00:19:57,920 --> 00:20:02,080 Speaker 1: this No, No, it's actually perfect because I think you 376 00:20:02,160 --> 00:20:04,359 Speaker 1: comment on the word horny at when point in the book, 377 00:20:04,359 --> 00:20:06,199 Speaker 1: and you're like, why haven't we as a society come 378 00:20:06,280 --> 00:20:10,480 Speaker 1: up with a better word than than horny, because because 379 00:20:10,560 --> 00:20:14,320 Speaker 1: that feels very like juvenile. The potty, I think is 380 00:20:14,320 --> 00:20:17,240 Speaker 1: a very latent word in terms of like this story, 381 00:20:17,359 --> 00:20:20,560 Speaker 1: like if like when my like my sister potty trading 382 00:20:20,640 --> 00:20:24,080 Speaker 1: her daughter like or just when my sister says, go 383 00:20:24,240 --> 00:20:27,399 Speaker 1: potty to my niece in front of me, I go, wow, 384 00:20:27,640 --> 00:20:30,159 Speaker 1: that tells me the story of like the journey that 385 00:20:30,240 --> 00:20:32,600 Speaker 1: they've been on. Yeah, and I think I think that. 386 00:20:32,680 --> 00:20:34,359 Speaker 1: I think the word potty. Once you get to like 387 00:20:35,240 --> 00:20:38,400 Speaker 1: an adult age, you kind of there's an empathy there 388 00:20:38,480 --> 00:20:40,040 Speaker 1: even if I even if even even though I don't 389 00:20:40,040 --> 00:20:41,880 Speaker 1: have kids, I hear someone sat up here and say 390 00:20:41,920 --> 00:20:44,320 Speaker 1: potty to their child, and I go, oh my god, 391 00:20:44,359 --> 00:20:48,600 Speaker 1: like the the the insurmountable work that's been put into this, 392 00:20:48,720 --> 00:20:51,159 Speaker 1: Oh my god. Well you are a true also a 393 00:20:51,200 --> 00:20:54,000 Speaker 1: little empathetic angel for feeling that because I'm always just 394 00:20:54,240 --> 00:20:57,600 Speaker 1: very uh it is, I mean, it is sort of 395 00:20:58,640 --> 00:21:03,359 Speaker 1: it's crazy. It's kind of like like just once once 396 00:21:03,400 --> 00:21:05,639 Speaker 1: I found myself doing that, like that chapter that is 397 00:21:05,680 --> 00:21:08,679 Speaker 1: about like being sitting on the floor of like a 398 00:21:08,720 --> 00:21:11,240 Speaker 1: Starbucks restroom. I truly think maybe this is where COVID 399 00:21:11,320 --> 00:21:15,399 Speaker 1: actually started with somehow like some virus like lended it 400 00:21:15,400 --> 00:21:17,399 Speaker 1: it up. We were Patient zero was just like the 401 00:21:17,680 --> 00:21:21,160 Speaker 1: germ layers that were created by myself, like being not 402 00:21:21,240 --> 00:21:25,240 Speaker 1: being while I cried or some tear fell from me 403 00:21:25,320 --> 00:21:29,879 Speaker 1: onto like a man's fecal germ, and then startups and 404 00:21:30,000 --> 00:21:34,360 Speaker 1: now we have covid um. Yeah, just those moments you're 405 00:21:35,160 --> 00:21:37,919 Speaker 1: not only was I feeling very deeply sorry for myself, 406 00:21:38,400 --> 00:21:41,000 Speaker 1: but I was just like, God, people have been doing 407 00:21:41,000 --> 00:21:44,960 Speaker 1: this for ages, and I've never freaking thought about this one. 408 00:21:45,119 --> 00:21:47,320 Speaker 1: That has to be the thing that you would never think. 409 00:21:47,440 --> 00:21:50,160 Speaker 1: It's like when you think like, and we're gonna have children, 410 00:21:50,600 --> 00:21:53,600 Speaker 1: probably something you don't even realize. It's like in the 411 00:21:53,680 --> 00:21:55,960 Speaker 1: list is probably extremely long, and you do get into 412 00:21:56,000 --> 00:21:59,040 Speaker 1: all of it. It seems like you do. Um, but 413 00:21:59,119 --> 00:22:01,960 Speaker 1: like potty training a child can't be on the brain, 414 00:22:02,640 --> 00:22:05,440 Speaker 1: can't be on the brain. No, it was just not 415 00:22:05,520 --> 00:22:08,439 Speaker 1: even a thought. But it's also sort of like I 416 00:22:08,480 --> 00:22:11,920 Speaker 1: feel like, like I remember as a very young person 417 00:22:11,960 --> 00:22:13,879 Speaker 1: when I was like first looking for an apartment in 418 00:22:13,920 --> 00:22:16,000 Speaker 1: New York, and I grew up in Europe, and so 419 00:22:16,000 --> 00:22:18,600 Speaker 1: I knew, like, what what how hard it would be? 420 00:22:20,720 --> 00:22:25,000 Speaker 1: Just like that feeling of once you're looking for real estate. 421 00:22:25,960 --> 00:22:28,359 Speaker 1: H You're like, it's all you can think about, and 422 00:22:28,359 --> 00:22:30,439 Speaker 1: it's all you can hear other people talking about for 423 00:22:30,480 --> 00:22:32,720 Speaker 1: the rest of your life, for the rest of your life, 424 00:22:32,760 --> 00:22:34,360 Speaker 1: and then you're like, how is it not like all 425 00:22:34,400 --> 00:22:36,679 Speaker 1: anyone's talking about like all the time. But then that 426 00:22:36,760 --> 00:22:39,199 Speaker 1: kind of got the planted by by potty training, and 427 00:22:39,200 --> 00:22:41,080 Speaker 1: that was onto the next thing. I guess it's just 428 00:22:41,280 --> 00:22:45,160 Speaker 1: as you go through each nightmarish stage of life, you're 429 00:22:45,200 --> 00:22:47,359 Speaker 1: just like, isn't it Why hasn't everyone talking about this 430 00:22:47,440 --> 00:22:49,679 Speaker 1: nightmarish stage of life? But I think that's like the 431 00:22:49,720 --> 00:22:51,760 Speaker 1: way the way the book is structured is perfect, Okay, 432 00:22:51,800 --> 00:22:56,679 Speaker 1: so for for for the readers are readers, um, it's 433 00:22:57,080 --> 00:23:00,440 Speaker 1: this is so I think you set it up chapter 434 00:23:00,560 --> 00:23:04,600 Speaker 1: It's like it's a Joseph Campbell hero's journey, but like 435 00:23:04,720 --> 00:23:07,840 Speaker 1: what if the hero's journey is about not going somewhere else, 436 00:23:07,840 --> 00:23:11,240 Speaker 1: which is what traditionally how they're traditionally frames, but you know, 437 00:23:11,440 --> 00:23:15,840 Speaker 1: staying a mother and not running the other way. Um. 438 00:23:15,960 --> 00:23:17,199 Speaker 1: And then the rest of the book is sort of 439 00:23:17,240 --> 00:23:19,960 Speaker 1: like you kind of going through each part of that 440 00:23:20,080 --> 00:23:24,080 Speaker 1: cycle um or the journey itself. And at one point 441 00:23:24,280 --> 00:23:25,800 Speaker 1: you say, I think in then towards the middle of 442 00:23:25,800 --> 00:23:28,040 Speaker 1: the book that like being a mom is like giving 443 00:23:28,040 --> 00:23:33,800 Speaker 1: birth every day. There's there's something like that just that 444 00:23:33,920 --> 00:23:37,359 Speaker 1: that's that like rupture is a part of your psyche 445 00:23:37,520 --> 00:23:39,760 Speaker 1: that you that you never expected you before and honestly, 446 00:23:40,040 --> 00:23:42,560 Speaker 1: and I don't know, I hope you don't mind me 447 00:23:42,600 --> 00:23:44,679 Speaker 1: saying this, Like for for for a while, I was like, 448 00:23:44,720 --> 00:23:48,320 Speaker 1: this is like unrelenting, like like like me reading this book, 449 00:23:48,320 --> 00:23:49,840 Speaker 1: I'm just like, there's so much going on here. And 450 00:23:49,840 --> 00:23:53,280 Speaker 1: then and then of course the last two essays are 451 00:23:53,320 --> 00:23:57,560 Speaker 1: like so beautifully like rendered that like it all like 452 00:23:57,680 --> 00:24:00,600 Speaker 1: makes it okay, and it all is like beautiful and 453 00:24:00,680 --> 00:24:03,200 Speaker 1: wonderful and worthwhile, and I was like, oh my god, 454 00:24:03,200 --> 00:24:05,680 Speaker 1: thank god, but you really had me at least like 455 00:24:06,200 --> 00:24:08,800 Speaker 1: nail biting until you end being like is this woman 456 00:24:08,840 --> 00:24:11,320 Speaker 1: going to be okay? She did? She going to show 457 00:24:11,359 --> 00:24:16,320 Speaker 1: over this podcast? Is this like a weird podcast where 458 00:24:16,320 --> 00:24:20,640 Speaker 1: it's like an am memoriam and like this is recorded 459 00:24:20,680 --> 00:24:25,320 Speaker 1: today and we're going to put together some clips of 460 00:24:25,480 --> 00:24:33,879 Speaker 1: other parents. It's just like a fresh air, like a retrospective, retrospective, 461 00:24:34,160 --> 00:24:39,480 Speaker 1: right satisfy five minute clips from comedies. No, and yeah 462 00:24:39,520 --> 00:24:43,280 Speaker 1: it is. I it is a little underlanding. But but 463 00:24:43,320 --> 00:24:44,960 Speaker 1: then like, but the the point of the book is 464 00:24:45,000 --> 00:24:47,480 Speaker 1: that you survived, and like the survival is like the 465 00:24:47,960 --> 00:24:49,879 Speaker 1: is the journey and the survival is the beauty. And 466 00:24:49,920 --> 00:24:51,960 Speaker 1: then and then not to spoil it, but like the 467 00:24:52,040 --> 00:24:54,800 Speaker 1: last chapter you kind of describe this fantasy that you 468 00:24:54,840 --> 00:24:57,000 Speaker 1: want to like ahead to where it's like, you know, 469 00:24:57,720 --> 00:25:01,520 Speaker 1: you're older son, Asher's in his twenties and you guys 470 00:25:01,520 --> 00:25:04,520 Speaker 1: meet up like Kathy Clooney and you guys catch up 471 00:25:04,520 --> 00:25:06,639 Speaker 1: and he's telling you about his work and his life 472 00:25:06,640 --> 00:25:09,639 Speaker 1: and who he's you know, dating, and this person that 473 00:25:09,680 --> 00:25:13,200 Speaker 1: he loves. I loved that, and really it really made 474 00:25:13,240 --> 00:25:14,919 Speaker 1: me feel like I want to be you know what 475 00:25:14,960 --> 00:25:17,200 Speaker 1: I've actually tried. I've actually made an effort, but I 476 00:25:17,400 --> 00:25:20,160 Speaker 1: I want to be more honest with my parents about 477 00:25:20,200 --> 00:25:22,280 Speaker 1: what's going on in my life, like and I mean 478 00:25:22,320 --> 00:25:24,240 Speaker 1: sometimes I know they listen to the podcast and get 479 00:25:24,240 --> 00:25:27,399 Speaker 1: like a horrifying like a little clip of what's happening 480 00:25:27,440 --> 00:25:30,560 Speaker 1: in my life, like whatever fucking sexual journey I'm on 481 00:25:30,600 --> 00:25:35,000 Speaker 1: that I think that they are. But the thing is, like, um, 482 00:25:36,280 --> 00:25:39,080 Speaker 1: I wonder it is that thing of like you negotiate 483 00:25:39,160 --> 00:25:41,000 Speaker 1: how much you want to share with your parents. And 484 00:25:41,040 --> 00:25:44,359 Speaker 1: then I said, in reading the final pages of the book, 485 00:25:44,400 --> 00:25:46,679 Speaker 1: it was sort of very apparent to me. It's like 486 00:25:46,920 --> 00:25:49,919 Speaker 1: I think that they would love to hear the specific 487 00:25:49,960 --> 00:25:51,919 Speaker 1: things I'm going through because you even describe in the 488 00:25:51,920 --> 00:25:53,879 Speaker 1: book like when you first sent an Astra to preschool, 489 00:25:53,880 --> 00:25:56,720 Speaker 1: it's like looking out the window realizing he's spending you know, 490 00:25:56,800 --> 00:25:58,639 Speaker 1: four and a half five hours away from you, and 491 00:25:58,680 --> 00:26:00,960 Speaker 1: you're like, it's crazy. I don't know what's going on, 492 00:26:01,440 --> 00:26:04,960 Speaker 1: no idea, what's going on. I remember there was first 493 00:26:04,960 --> 00:26:07,280 Speaker 1: of all, I truly cannot. I'm just so sweet of 494 00:26:07,280 --> 00:26:10,800 Speaker 1: you guys that you've read and remembered any specific Always 495 00:26:10,800 --> 00:26:13,000 Speaker 1: read the book. Always read the book. I know you do. 496 00:26:13,160 --> 00:26:15,000 Speaker 1: I know you do. But it doesn't make it a 497 00:26:15,119 --> 00:26:17,360 Speaker 1: less sweet or awesome that you loved it. It's our 498 00:26:17,520 --> 00:26:22,960 Speaker 1: pleasure to read anything you want. You know, I won't 499 00:26:23,000 --> 00:26:27,240 Speaker 1: shut up. Jewish mom, Jewish all over. Um. There was 500 00:26:27,280 --> 00:26:28,800 Speaker 1: that movie. I don't know if you ever sup it's 501 00:26:28,800 --> 00:26:31,520 Speaker 1: one of my favorite movies. Uh, that Mike Mills movie 502 00:26:31,520 --> 00:26:37,640 Speaker 1: twenty and Century Women. Oh my god, Nebending And there's 503 00:26:37,680 --> 00:26:39,920 Speaker 1: just that moment and this was like when I think 504 00:26:39,920 --> 00:26:41,800 Speaker 1: it came out, like when my son was very like 505 00:26:41,840 --> 00:26:44,040 Speaker 1: a bait, like truly a baby, like a few months 506 00:26:44,040 --> 00:26:47,080 Speaker 1: old or something. But there's a line that she says 507 00:26:47,359 --> 00:26:49,720 Speaker 1: where she goes and Nebending as the mother and has 508 00:26:49,760 --> 00:26:52,959 Speaker 1: her her son is like thirteen or fourteen is you know, 509 00:26:53,080 --> 00:26:55,520 Speaker 1: being a boy out and his little skateboard and listening 510 00:26:55,560 --> 00:26:58,400 Speaker 1: punk whatever. But she says, I'll never get to see 511 00:26:58,400 --> 00:27:00,800 Speaker 1: what he's like in the world, never know what he's 512 00:27:00,840 --> 00:27:03,240 Speaker 1: really like in the world. And it's like that notion 513 00:27:03,359 --> 00:27:06,199 Speaker 1: that like I sort of no matter how close you 514 00:27:06,240 --> 00:27:08,919 Speaker 1: are with your child and I think, you know it's 515 00:27:09,000 --> 00:27:11,480 Speaker 1: my parents are you know, not who it's still alive, 516 00:27:11,520 --> 00:27:15,360 Speaker 1: and I know it's that fascinating thing where it does 517 00:27:15,440 --> 00:27:18,520 Speaker 1: just make you reconsider it all. But when I've heard 518 00:27:18,560 --> 00:27:20,600 Speaker 1: that line in that movie and I was looking at 519 00:27:20,640 --> 00:27:24,040 Speaker 1: my baby and I'm like, even if I'm very close 520 00:27:24,080 --> 00:27:26,520 Speaker 1: with him and I do everything right and we maintain 521 00:27:27,440 --> 00:27:29,800 Speaker 1: you know, I'm like, maybe there's a world and boys 522 00:27:29,840 --> 00:27:32,040 Speaker 1: still love their moms and her dead, you know, but 523 00:27:32,760 --> 00:27:37,600 Speaker 1: loves death. But um, but like you'll never like that 524 00:27:37,760 --> 00:27:41,040 Speaker 1: feeling of just like he's I'm not the way I 525 00:27:41,080 --> 00:27:44,439 Speaker 1: am with my friends, with my parents maybe a little 526 00:27:44,440 --> 00:27:49,240 Speaker 1: bit sometimes, and they're pretty you know, chill, liberal human beings. 527 00:27:49,240 --> 00:27:52,760 Speaker 1: It's not like I'm massively purposely needing to hide something 528 00:27:52,800 --> 00:27:56,919 Speaker 1: from them. But when you realize like that, it's like 529 00:27:57,440 --> 00:27:59,399 Speaker 1: this person has come out of you, and then one 530 00:27:59,440 --> 00:28:03,680 Speaker 1: day they'll just really have this whole side that you'll 531 00:28:03,720 --> 00:28:06,600 Speaker 1: never really get to know it. Actually, I don't know. 532 00:28:06,880 --> 00:28:09,960 Speaker 1: I think like your parents listening to this podcasts lose 533 00:28:10,000 --> 00:28:15,080 Speaker 1: their minds in the best way, I think. And you know, 534 00:28:15,160 --> 00:28:18,760 Speaker 1: you know what's interesting, It's like that's another thing is 535 00:28:18,800 --> 00:28:21,080 Speaker 1: you can never really prepare for what your kid is 536 00:28:21,119 --> 00:28:23,800 Speaker 1: going to become. And I think that some of the 537 00:28:24,520 --> 00:28:27,200 Speaker 1: some of the really interesting moments are when I realized 538 00:28:27,200 --> 00:28:30,920 Speaker 1: that I was an adult with my parents, that makes sense. 539 00:28:31,520 --> 00:28:36,119 Speaker 1: It's ever like got to a place where and I remember, well, 540 00:28:36,600 --> 00:28:38,160 Speaker 1: this might be an overshare, but like there was like 541 00:28:38,200 --> 00:28:40,640 Speaker 1: a period of time, there was like a period of 542 00:28:40,640 --> 00:28:43,640 Speaker 1: time several years ago where I feel like I was 543 00:28:43,680 --> 00:28:49,120 Speaker 1: explaining things about my perspective to my father and there 544 00:28:49,120 --> 00:28:51,400 Speaker 1: were hard conversations. I mean, we had like one time 545 00:28:51,400 --> 00:28:56,600 Speaker 1: a blowout in a beer authority on remember that night. 546 00:28:56,640 --> 00:28:59,200 Speaker 1: I remember that, I think because I called you crying 547 00:28:59,240 --> 00:29:02,840 Speaker 1: because we had had a blowout fight because I was 548 00:29:03,000 --> 00:29:06,280 Speaker 1: explaining why I was supporting Bernie Sanders and it was 549 00:29:06,360 --> 00:29:12,360 Speaker 1: just such a funny and what I said was what 550 00:29:12,440 --> 00:29:15,400 Speaker 1: I said that really took him out of the restaurant 551 00:29:15,480 --> 00:29:17,440 Speaker 1: down the street and we didn't speak for two days. 552 00:29:18,320 --> 00:29:21,560 Speaker 1: Was that I explained to him that he may need 553 00:29:21,600 --> 00:29:24,920 Speaker 1: to and and probably inelegantly I said this, but check 554 00:29:25,040 --> 00:29:28,680 Speaker 1: his privilege on something, because he is an older, straight 555 00:29:28,720 --> 00:29:32,040 Speaker 1: white man who whatever that. And that was like, this 556 00:29:32,120 --> 00:29:37,320 Speaker 1: was sixteen when people did not This was not just 557 00:29:37,400 --> 00:29:39,400 Speaker 1: the vernacular, you know what I mean. This was still 558 00:29:39,480 --> 00:29:43,280 Speaker 1: like something that was becoming for for you know, people 559 00:29:43,320 --> 00:29:46,920 Speaker 1: of that generation, like part of something they could accept 560 00:29:46,920 --> 00:29:51,640 Speaker 1: hearing about themselves despite the fact that you know, everyone 561 00:29:51,720 --> 00:29:54,000 Speaker 1: has privilege, etcetera. As we know, and it's about checking 562 00:29:54,040 --> 00:29:56,360 Speaker 1: all of our own individual privileges in order to get 563 00:29:56,400 --> 00:30:00,400 Speaker 1: to understanding. But he only heard me me saying like 564 00:30:00,720 --> 00:30:02,680 Speaker 1: he was out of touch and didn't have a social 565 00:30:02,720 --> 00:30:05,760 Speaker 1: conscience and whatever. And I think that two days later, 566 00:30:05,800 --> 00:30:08,400 Speaker 1: when we had a conversation, I told him, I was like, Dad, 567 00:30:08,440 --> 00:30:11,680 Speaker 1: I want to apologize for us getting into a conversation 568 00:30:11,760 --> 00:30:14,080 Speaker 1: where both of us got upset. I never want to 569 00:30:14,080 --> 00:30:16,280 Speaker 1: see you hurt, but I will not take back what 570 00:30:16,360 --> 00:30:20,280 Speaker 1: I said because because I I genuinely feel that's something 571 00:30:20,320 --> 00:30:21,880 Speaker 1: we all need to do. And maybe I could have 572 00:30:21,920 --> 00:30:25,680 Speaker 1: gone about saying it better. But his response to me 573 00:30:26,280 --> 00:30:29,040 Speaker 1: was interesting because I could tell that he had considered 574 00:30:29,080 --> 00:30:32,400 Speaker 1: what I said, and maybe it had, um you know, 575 00:30:32,480 --> 00:30:35,280 Speaker 1: illuminated him, not just to that topic, but to that 576 00:30:35,360 --> 00:30:38,280 Speaker 1: maybe I was someone who could also engage with him 577 00:30:38,320 --> 00:30:41,560 Speaker 1: about new ideas and things, which has to be kind 578 00:30:41,560 --> 00:30:45,680 Speaker 1: of crazy when you gave birth to and reared that child. 579 00:30:45,920 --> 00:30:49,800 Speaker 1: And I'm sure that you and I know Bowen has 580 00:30:49,920 --> 00:30:52,280 Speaker 1: this with his parents as well. Yeah, I want to. 581 00:30:52,280 --> 00:30:54,880 Speaker 1: I'm so fascinated to hear. Like, are you guys close 582 00:30:54,920 --> 00:30:59,440 Speaker 1: with your parents? I am? I mean, we're on good terms. 583 00:30:59,720 --> 00:31:02,880 Speaker 1: I I I could do better about like reaching out 584 00:31:02,880 --> 00:31:05,880 Speaker 1: to them. I did call them yesterday, um while I 585 00:31:05,920 --> 00:31:07,600 Speaker 1: was reading your book, just to be like I should. 586 00:31:07,640 --> 00:31:10,240 Speaker 1: I mean it did. Like well, I feel like I 587 00:31:10,280 --> 00:31:11,760 Speaker 1: think Matt and I have been in a lot of 588 00:31:11,800 --> 00:31:16,720 Speaker 1: like parent content recently. Like we like we we we 589 00:31:16,720 --> 00:31:22,600 Speaker 1: we like saw everything everywhere all at once, absolutely amazing. 590 00:31:22,800 --> 00:31:24,640 Speaker 1: And I told my parents about it too, because I 591 00:31:24,680 --> 00:31:26,760 Speaker 1: think that they I think that they'll like, really really 592 00:31:26,840 --> 00:31:29,840 Speaker 1: enjoy I think almost for that reason too, But you know, 593 00:31:29,960 --> 00:31:32,600 Speaker 1: I I I identify as being close with my parents, 594 00:31:32,640 --> 00:31:34,440 Speaker 1: but it still is that thing where my dad did 595 00:31:34,440 --> 00:31:36,160 Speaker 1: send me a text and he was like, I really 596 00:31:36,160 --> 00:31:37,640 Speaker 1: want your mom to come out and see you soon, 597 00:31:37,680 --> 00:31:39,120 Speaker 1: and I was like trying to find a time in 598 00:31:39,160 --> 00:31:41,440 Speaker 1: my schedule that would be good, and I was just like, 599 00:31:41,480 --> 00:31:43,600 Speaker 1: it's crazy to have to do this for your mother, 600 00:31:44,000 --> 00:31:46,280 Speaker 1: like drop everything, you know what I mean. And then 601 00:31:46,280 --> 00:31:48,120 Speaker 1: in reading the book, just like hearing the blood, sweat 602 00:31:48,120 --> 00:31:50,840 Speaker 1: and tears that goes into motherhood, I'm just like it really, 603 00:31:50,880 --> 00:31:52,560 Speaker 1: it's not It doesn't put you as a child in 604 00:31:52,600 --> 00:31:54,480 Speaker 1: a state of guilt, but it puts you and it 605 00:31:54,520 --> 00:31:57,000 Speaker 1: gives you like a real understanding of the fact that 606 00:31:57,080 --> 00:32:01,600 Speaker 1: like this person like survived so you could live, so 607 00:32:01,640 --> 00:32:03,760 Speaker 1: you could You just want to stop and say, I'm 608 00:32:03,800 --> 00:32:06,280 Speaker 1: so impressed that your dad is sending texts. I think 609 00:32:06,280 --> 00:32:11,400 Speaker 1: that's oh wow, Yeah, I know my dad. Well, my 610 00:32:11,480 --> 00:32:14,240 Speaker 1: dad's pretty old, he's eighty one or eighty two now, 611 00:32:14,320 --> 00:32:16,160 Speaker 1: but yeah, and my mom is I taught my mom 612 00:32:16,200 --> 00:32:18,640 Speaker 1: had to send text she can do, my dad doesn't. 613 00:32:18,680 --> 00:32:21,120 Speaker 1: I don't think it was cell phone anyway. So I'm impressed. 614 00:32:21,120 --> 00:32:23,080 Speaker 1: But you guys are as a younger and younger parents, 615 00:32:30,760 --> 00:32:32,959 Speaker 1: we can I say the the ear infection thing that 616 00:32:34,120 --> 00:32:36,120 Speaker 1: because this is important if you're getting on that, I 617 00:32:36,160 --> 00:32:38,800 Speaker 1: feel like, actually, I think when I was promoting my 618 00:32:38,880 --> 00:32:42,400 Speaker 1: last one, I had to fly and I had a 619 00:32:42,560 --> 00:32:44,640 Speaker 1: terrible cold. I didn't have an ear infection, but I 620 00:32:44,680 --> 00:32:47,400 Speaker 1: was like very congested. And but I was like, I 621 00:32:47,480 --> 00:32:49,640 Speaker 1: flow with the cold before. It's no big deal, Okay, 622 00:32:49,640 --> 00:32:53,440 Speaker 1: I want to scare you. Then as we were started 623 00:32:53,440 --> 00:32:59,560 Speaker 1: to what to send not decline, I started to decline. 624 00:32:59,600 --> 00:33:02,320 Speaker 1: I did you the client as you just said. I 625 00:33:02,680 --> 00:33:05,120 Speaker 1: for the first time in life, I felt like a 626 00:33:05,240 --> 00:33:10,760 Speaker 1: pain in my ear, like someone was done on like ending, 627 00:33:10,880 --> 00:33:12,760 Speaker 1: like a screw driver was playing in my ear, and 628 00:33:12,800 --> 00:33:16,520 Speaker 1: I I honestly started a panic that like my brain 629 00:33:16,600 --> 00:33:19,200 Speaker 1: might explode. I was like, I had a terrible mistake. 630 00:33:19,560 --> 00:33:22,040 Speaker 1: You're not supposed to fly with like this level of 631 00:33:22,240 --> 00:33:25,960 Speaker 1: a scientist whatever I had, And and then I was 632 00:33:26,000 --> 00:33:29,200 Speaker 1: in pain for hours after. And it's crazy because I'm 633 00:33:29,200 --> 00:33:31,560 Speaker 1: supposed to see Pat Mannerson in Chicago right after I 634 00:33:31,600 --> 00:33:34,040 Speaker 1: get off the plane. So I gotta I gotta figure 635 00:33:34,040 --> 00:33:35,840 Speaker 1: this out. This is what my doctor told me to do. 636 00:33:35,920 --> 00:33:37,080 Speaker 1: And I did it on the way back, and it 637 00:33:37,160 --> 00:33:41,840 Speaker 1: helped take an incredibly strong, decongested like an hour before, 638 00:33:42,280 --> 00:33:44,280 Speaker 1: like an advil Colton Scinus, the one they keep behind 639 00:33:44,320 --> 00:33:46,680 Speaker 1: the register because people can make mesop the one you need, 640 00:33:46,680 --> 00:33:48,480 Speaker 1: like your passport to yeah, the one you need, you 641 00:33:49,440 --> 00:33:54,600 Speaker 1: need your new yeah, your new drivers, like exactly. But anyway, 642 00:33:55,000 --> 00:33:56,520 Speaker 1: I just didn't want to let you go without telling 643 00:33:56,520 --> 00:33:57,920 Speaker 1: you that. I think that's what you need to do 644 00:33:58,160 --> 00:33:59,440 Speaker 1: because I want you to have a great time and 645 00:33:59,520 --> 00:34:01,880 Speaker 1: watch what live and I'm so excited really ing on, 646 00:34:02,160 --> 00:34:05,720 Speaker 1: I mean listen and that is and that you can't 647 00:34:05,720 --> 00:34:08,919 Speaker 1: stop parenting. I don't know you're thinking me as your baby, Yeah, 648 00:34:09,880 --> 00:34:11,600 Speaker 1: I mean not as much as the baby as you know, 649 00:34:11,719 --> 00:34:14,439 Speaker 1: Jennifer Lewis calling calling all of us babies, which made 650 00:34:14,440 --> 00:34:17,960 Speaker 1: me so I'm goridably happy. But the babies? Did you 651 00:34:18,000 --> 00:34:20,319 Speaker 1: know that my nickname? For a second, I didn't know 652 00:34:20,400 --> 00:34:22,600 Speaker 1: she knew my name because I was all exclusively referred 653 00:34:22,600 --> 00:34:27,440 Speaker 1: to as the baby. We on my coverage at the baby, 654 00:34:27,480 --> 00:34:30,920 Speaker 1: and where is the baby coming in? The baby? The 655 00:34:30,960 --> 00:34:34,360 Speaker 1: baby standing over here? The baby. You were the baby 656 00:34:34,360 --> 00:34:37,480 Speaker 1: pretty much the whole time. But like also eightens the baby, 657 00:34:37,600 --> 00:34:39,560 Speaker 1: but she most of her scenes were with you, so yeah, 658 00:34:39,600 --> 00:34:42,560 Speaker 1: it was calling you. The baby is socreribly sweet? Love 659 00:34:42,680 --> 00:34:48,360 Speaker 1: that sweet? That's nice. Even even in his thirties, still 660 00:34:48,520 --> 00:34:50,600 Speaker 1: you know I got that baby face though it's it's 661 00:34:50,600 --> 00:34:52,440 Speaker 1: actually a real culture number fifteen. You could be a 662 00:34:52,440 --> 00:35:00,000 Speaker 1: baby in the thirties, fully believe. I'm on set endors 663 00:35:01,200 --> 00:35:04,279 Speaker 1: um speaking of uh are you excited for it to 664 00:35:04,320 --> 00:35:08,440 Speaker 1: come out? Oh my god, talk about it. Let's talk 665 00:35:08,480 --> 00:35:11,520 Speaker 1: about it. I was just on like an hour long 666 00:35:11,840 --> 00:35:17,560 Speaker 1: marketing meeting where like it's so crazy. Um. I also 667 00:35:17,680 --> 00:35:21,399 Speaker 1: just need to say the world it's gonna lose their 668 00:35:21,480 --> 00:35:26,640 Speaker 1: freaking mind seeing Matt Rogers in this show. So, I mean, 669 00:35:26,760 --> 00:35:31,120 Speaker 1: everyone is amazing, but I'm just gonna say Matt, I truly, 670 00:35:31,360 --> 00:35:34,200 Speaker 1: I'm not blowing smoke. I very easily could have dodged 671 00:35:34,239 --> 00:35:37,239 Speaker 1: out of this, but I'm so happy to say, like, 672 00:35:37,360 --> 00:35:40,759 Speaker 1: I just you're just like like, well, I wanted to 673 00:35:40,920 --> 00:35:42,000 Speaker 1: I was about to say a word and that I 674 00:35:42,000 --> 00:35:43,680 Speaker 1: realized it makes me sound like like a New York 675 00:35:43,760 --> 00:35:49,759 Speaker 1: Times critic. But you're in from within, lit from within. 676 00:35:49,880 --> 00:35:52,319 Speaker 1: I remember I once. I remember when Claire Danes first 677 00:35:52,520 --> 00:35:54,919 Speaker 1: came on the scene, like I was like still reading 678 00:35:54,960 --> 00:35:56,799 Speaker 1: like from your magazine, and so I was talking about 679 00:35:56,800 --> 00:35:58,520 Speaker 1: her in my so called life and she's lit from 680 00:35:58,520 --> 00:36:04,560 Speaker 1: within with There's nothing better you could say about from 681 00:36:06,800 --> 00:36:09,600 Speaker 1: from But honestly, you know, when someone whenever I say 682 00:36:09,680 --> 00:36:14,280 Speaker 1: someone carries the light, that's the highest, highest, the highest 683 00:36:14,440 --> 00:36:17,920 Speaker 1: compliment I can give. But I mean, I just I 684 00:36:18,080 --> 00:36:20,919 Speaker 1: can't stop talking about it. But like, um, you guys 685 00:36:20,960 --> 00:36:23,480 Speaker 1: did such an incredible job writing the show, and um, 686 00:36:23,640 --> 00:36:26,320 Speaker 1: you know obviously it came together really great. But I 687 00:36:26,440 --> 00:36:30,600 Speaker 1: just I you're you're very very very very good at 688 00:36:30,680 --> 00:36:33,440 Speaker 1: what you do, both on the page and on the laptop, 689 00:36:33,520 --> 00:36:39,600 Speaker 1: which becomes a teleplay tellio play, which is a page 690 00:36:39,640 --> 00:36:42,080 Speaker 1: which is on a page on a screen. Yeah, on 691 00:36:42,200 --> 00:36:45,640 Speaker 1: a pause. I Um, that's so amazed to hear. I am. 692 00:36:46,760 --> 00:36:49,800 Speaker 1: I still feel like, just in the rule of culture 693 00:36:50,000 --> 00:36:51,560 Speaker 1: that you can still be a baby in your thirties 694 00:36:51,600 --> 00:36:54,239 Speaker 1: and my forties, still feel like, don't look like a baby, 695 00:36:54,280 --> 00:36:57,279 Speaker 1: feeling a baby, but you have you running the show. 696 00:36:57,960 --> 00:37:01,560 Speaker 1: I don't. I have to say. I think, um, you 697 00:37:01,640 --> 00:37:05,440 Speaker 1: know a lot during during production about like you know, 698 00:37:05,560 --> 00:37:10,680 Speaker 1: you are kind of the production mom some degree, you know, 699 00:37:12,080 --> 00:37:15,839 Speaker 1: mom boss or whatever, and and I mean I love 700 00:37:15,920 --> 00:37:18,800 Speaker 1: doing this show, and um, I mean everyone made it 701 00:37:18,880 --> 00:37:20,800 Speaker 1: such a pleasure and the cruise, the love like it 702 00:37:20,960 --> 00:37:24,400 Speaker 1: was just a sweepy group of humans. And then how 703 00:37:24,560 --> 00:37:28,880 Speaker 1: lucky am I to be working with just this cast 704 00:37:28,960 --> 00:37:33,239 Speaker 1: of people. And there are just so many days though 705 00:37:33,280 --> 00:37:37,120 Speaker 1: where I just still feel a real emotional disconnect with 706 00:37:37,239 --> 00:37:42,759 Speaker 1: like I can't believe, like you know, I'm like, yeah, yeah, 707 00:37:42,960 --> 00:37:45,680 Speaker 1: that is It is a crazy feeling like what because 708 00:37:45,880 --> 00:37:49,399 Speaker 1: because you've earned it, but but convincing yourself you've earned 709 00:37:49,440 --> 00:37:53,880 Speaker 1: it is crazy. Well, it's less honestly even the well 710 00:37:53,920 --> 00:37:57,120 Speaker 1: I mean obviously don't believe I've earned anything, but the 711 00:37:57,239 --> 00:37:59,919 Speaker 1: earning aside. Also as I'm like looking at like half 712 00:38:00,040 --> 00:38:08,080 Speaker 1: my Jill was really on appealing nail situation just started 713 00:38:08,080 --> 00:38:12,839 Speaker 1: ap peeling them off. But I remember the first uh 714 00:38:13,680 --> 00:38:15,320 Speaker 1: like the first two weeks when I was doing in 715 00:38:15,400 --> 00:38:19,320 Speaker 1: sending Amy Schumer with Amy and are amazing work. Husband 716 00:38:19,400 --> 00:38:21,960 Speaker 1: Dan Powell was the other EP and that show. It 717 00:38:22,080 --> 00:38:24,279 Speaker 1: was the first time and I wasn't the show unner 718 00:38:24,280 --> 00:38:25,480 Speaker 1: of the show. Dan was the show owner, but I 719 00:38:25,600 --> 00:38:28,279 Speaker 1: was the head writer and another EP. So it was 720 00:38:28,320 --> 00:38:29,840 Speaker 1: like me and Amy and Dan were in charge of 721 00:38:29,880 --> 00:38:32,960 Speaker 1: the show and I had never been in charge of 722 00:38:33,040 --> 00:38:36,600 Speaker 1: the show before. And there was some moment where, like 723 00:38:37,160 --> 00:38:40,000 Speaker 1: some like a network, a question came up but like 724 00:38:40,120 --> 00:38:43,120 Speaker 1: had to be answered or solved, and I was like, oh, 725 00:38:43,400 --> 00:38:46,480 Speaker 1: we should figure out. And then it was like where's 726 00:38:46,520 --> 00:38:48,600 Speaker 1: mom where's mommy and daddy? And then we were all 727 00:38:48,680 --> 00:38:52,160 Speaker 1: like where mommy and daddy? And that was like where 728 00:38:52,280 --> 00:38:54,600 Speaker 1: the fucking mommy and daddy? And it was a really 729 00:38:54,960 --> 00:38:59,320 Speaker 1: really surreal moment. And the parallels not to whatever, but 730 00:38:59,480 --> 00:39:03,640 Speaker 1: like the parallels with parenthood are pretty intense where you're 731 00:39:03,680 --> 00:39:07,680 Speaker 1: just like I never Maybe I don't know if everyone 732 00:39:07,760 --> 00:39:09,960 Speaker 1: feels this way. I think I maybe I'm just very 733 00:39:10,600 --> 00:39:14,440 Speaker 1: in touch with my inner little baby who doesn't know anything, 734 00:39:14,560 --> 00:39:16,919 Speaker 1: but I it's just always a strange feeling. I don't 735 00:39:16,920 --> 00:39:18,840 Speaker 1: know if you guys, I mean I would imagine you 736 00:39:18,880 --> 00:39:21,319 Speaker 1: guys both feel that or maybe you maybe you don't, 737 00:39:21,360 --> 00:39:25,280 Speaker 1: but sometimes feeling like you're both just such high achievers 738 00:39:25,360 --> 00:39:27,879 Speaker 1: and doing such incredible things that just those moments where 739 00:39:27,880 --> 00:39:30,120 Speaker 1: you're like just a version of I can't believe I'm 740 00:39:30,239 --> 00:39:33,120 Speaker 1: here and then I'm supposed to know what I'm doing. Well, 741 00:39:33,239 --> 00:39:37,839 Speaker 1: like parenting, um, I feel like it's old self versus 742 00:39:37,920 --> 00:39:41,520 Speaker 1: new self, and like the reconciliation feels so crazy, like 743 00:39:41,600 --> 00:39:44,279 Speaker 1: you're like, but those are the same people, Like I'm 744 00:39:44,400 --> 00:39:46,840 Speaker 1: I'm like work mommy, but I was never but I 745 00:39:46,920 --> 00:39:49,880 Speaker 1: was baby before. Yeah. Or I'm mommy, but I was 746 00:39:49,920 --> 00:39:52,520 Speaker 1: baby before. Yeah. It's a version of like I'm an adult, 747 00:39:52,840 --> 00:39:55,520 Speaker 1: Like there's being an adult, and then I guess being 748 00:39:55,560 --> 00:39:58,640 Speaker 1: a parent is like sort of super adult. But really 749 00:39:58,760 --> 00:40:01,560 Speaker 1: it's all just like truly in any capacity, even before 750 00:40:01,560 --> 00:40:04,239 Speaker 1: I became apparent, any moment, any time I have to 751 00:40:04,280 --> 00:40:07,600 Speaker 1: fill out a form, I feel like what am I doing? 752 00:40:07,960 --> 00:40:11,520 Speaker 1: How am I filling out of form? But like anytime 753 00:40:11,680 --> 00:40:14,919 Speaker 1: dealing with any kind of insurance, like this isn't for me. Yep, 754 00:40:15,160 --> 00:40:17,359 Speaker 1: that's the thing. I think I'm the most baby about too, 755 00:40:17,440 --> 00:40:20,239 Speaker 1: and I just want to change insurance forget it. No, 756 00:40:20,719 --> 00:40:22,239 Speaker 1: I was gonna ask you, guys, what are you? What 757 00:40:22,320 --> 00:40:24,880 Speaker 1: are you the most baby about in your life? Because 758 00:40:24,920 --> 00:40:26,800 Speaker 1: I'm identifying with that. I just had to switch my 759 00:40:26,880 --> 00:40:29,360 Speaker 1: insurance from w g A to SAG and it was 760 00:40:29,480 --> 00:40:34,680 Speaker 1: like learning to walk. I can't do it. I all 761 00:40:34,800 --> 00:40:39,480 Speaker 1: that little tasks. Um, I would say, it's insure. I mean, 762 00:40:39,520 --> 00:40:43,160 Speaker 1: I have my like new insurance car just on my table. 763 00:40:44,200 --> 00:40:47,439 Speaker 1: I'm so scared to touch it. I don't. I can't 764 00:40:47,480 --> 00:40:50,600 Speaker 1: even touch it, like it's like electric or something. And 765 00:40:50,680 --> 00:40:53,160 Speaker 1: then I just wanted to say that, Like, it's so 766 00:40:53,239 --> 00:40:55,960 Speaker 1: interesting hearing you say this, and it's refreshing because I 767 00:40:56,080 --> 00:41:00,960 Speaker 1: think at least people in our circles have like really 768 00:41:01,120 --> 00:41:05,440 Speaker 1: like pooh pooed on like the term adult ing or 769 00:41:05,520 --> 00:41:10,560 Speaker 1: the discourse around hat adulting. It's a terrible word. It's terrible, 770 00:41:10,800 --> 00:41:14,360 Speaker 1: it's so reductive, but it does like it is like 771 00:41:14,560 --> 00:41:17,360 Speaker 1: an index. It's a name for something that, like, I 772 00:41:17,480 --> 00:41:19,920 Speaker 1: think that is very normal for people our age to 773 00:41:20,160 --> 00:41:23,920 Speaker 1: feel we're in terms of like, oh okay, Like I 774 00:41:25,120 --> 00:41:29,440 Speaker 1: I have to like acclimate myself to like this new reality, 775 00:41:29,640 --> 00:41:33,320 Speaker 1: which like is a very like complex thing, and of 776 00:41:33,480 --> 00:41:35,719 Speaker 1: course it's stupid to produce it to a word like adulting. 777 00:41:35,880 --> 00:41:39,439 Speaker 1: But I feel like people, I don't know, I don't 778 00:41:39,440 --> 00:41:40,719 Speaker 1: know if you, if you guys feel this way, but 779 00:41:40,719 --> 00:41:43,480 Speaker 1: I feel like people are afraid to talk about their 780 00:41:43,520 --> 00:41:47,200 Speaker 1: adulting moments because the term has so much bad has 781 00:41:47,239 --> 00:41:50,360 Speaker 1: so much like bad energy around it. Yeah, no, I 782 00:41:50,440 --> 00:41:53,440 Speaker 1: know totally. Well, I feel like it's sort of like 783 00:41:53,440 --> 00:41:56,520 Speaker 1: what I was saying before. I can't believe people aren't 784 00:41:56,520 --> 00:41:58,320 Speaker 1: talking about it more. But it feels like when you 785 00:41:58,440 --> 00:42:00,480 Speaker 1: open the door to talking about it, people are so 786 00:42:00,760 --> 00:42:03,959 Speaker 1: relieved to talk about it because I'm like and again, 787 00:42:04,000 --> 00:42:08,160 Speaker 1: I'm I'm forty six, I really still I mean, I'm 788 00:42:08,200 --> 00:42:15,960 Speaker 1: exceptionally bad at all of those things, like like anything, money, bank, insurance, 789 00:42:16,520 --> 00:42:21,640 Speaker 1: credit cards, like I just um and I was I 790 00:42:21,760 --> 00:42:24,120 Speaker 1: can give myself, like I guess a tiny bit of grace, 791 00:42:24,160 --> 00:42:27,440 Speaker 1: although I think it's expired now because I I never 792 00:42:27,680 --> 00:42:31,960 Speaker 1: was really taught how to do those things for did 793 00:42:32,040 --> 00:42:35,320 Speaker 1: not do what it needed to do. I'm sorry the 794 00:42:35,400 --> 00:42:38,440 Speaker 1: way that they taught going to New York City school, 795 00:42:38,440 --> 00:42:41,759 Speaker 1: we didn't have home mac. At the Long Island Public 796 00:42:41,800 --> 00:42:43,399 Speaker 1: school I went to, we had we had to take 797 00:42:43,440 --> 00:42:44,920 Speaker 1: home mac and I don't know what, but what did 798 00:42:44,960 --> 00:42:47,400 Speaker 1: you take home mac? I did not take it. So 799 00:42:47,640 --> 00:42:50,560 Speaker 1: you think that as a result of me taking home mac, 800 00:42:50,760 --> 00:42:53,040 Speaker 1: I would know for sure by the time I got 801 00:42:53,080 --> 00:42:58,359 Speaker 1: to college how to do like laundry. Positive that by 802 00:42:58,400 --> 00:43:00,520 Speaker 1: the time I had my own apart and I had 803 00:43:00,560 --> 00:43:05,960 Speaker 1: boiled pasta for certain, you would think I knew the 804 00:43:06,040 --> 00:43:09,160 Speaker 1: difference between a credit card and a debit card, because 805 00:43:09,239 --> 00:43:13,040 Speaker 1: because it's such a simple difference, the answer is no, 806 00:43:13,760 --> 00:43:16,560 Speaker 1: me tell you had a cross stitch and he and 807 00:43:16,760 --> 00:43:21,480 Speaker 1: and and like maybe that's it. Matt do your school 808 00:43:21,640 --> 00:43:25,319 Speaker 1: have like the robot baby basically like they would give 809 00:43:25,360 --> 00:43:28,520 Speaker 1: you the baby. Yeah, the baby, which by the way, 810 00:43:28,560 --> 00:43:31,000 Speaker 1: has none of the complexities of a real baby. Okay, 811 00:43:31,520 --> 00:43:33,880 Speaker 1: the baby don't the babies don't get like, you know, 812 00:43:34,239 --> 00:43:37,360 Speaker 1: colocky for no reason. The baby there's always an you 813 00:43:37,400 --> 00:43:40,200 Speaker 1: know what we're talking about? Wait? Is this I wanted 814 00:43:40,239 --> 00:43:42,040 Speaker 1: to be really sad? Is this the version? Because is 815 00:43:42,120 --> 00:43:44,279 Speaker 1: this where you were like trying You're taught how to 816 00:43:44,480 --> 00:43:46,680 Speaker 1: take care of something and had to take yes, and 817 00:43:46,760 --> 00:43:49,080 Speaker 1: then they gave you a baby that was like basically 818 00:43:49,160 --> 00:43:52,279 Speaker 1: like it had like a random timer on, like they 819 00:43:52,320 --> 00:43:55,560 Speaker 1: would program this like doll basically to like cry at 820 00:43:56,080 --> 00:43:58,839 Speaker 1: insane hours. Wait. Can I just blow your mind? I'm 821 00:43:58,840 --> 00:44:01,719 Speaker 1: so starting interrupt? This is such This is such a 822 00:44:01,800 --> 00:44:04,840 Speaker 1: like I'm more than ten years old. When I was 823 00:44:04,880 --> 00:44:06,719 Speaker 1: a kid, this we all had to do this, but 824 00:44:06,800 --> 00:44:12,040 Speaker 1: we were given a fucking egg, an egg. It was 825 00:44:12,120 --> 00:44:14,200 Speaker 1: just an egg. It wasn't a robot doll. It was like, 826 00:44:14,320 --> 00:44:16,120 Speaker 1: here's this egg, and don't break the egg. For like 827 00:44:16,280 --> 00:44:22,759 Speaker 1: two weeks. We broke the egg, I mean, and then 828 00:44:22,800 --> 00:44:28,480 Speaker 1: it's such a place it with another egg. What are 829 00:44:28,520 --> 00:44:31,040 Speaker 1: we doing? They gave us a full on baby. And 830 00:44:31,120 --> 00:44:35,080 Speaker 1: the thing is, like the baby would they only gave 831 00:44:35,120 --> 00:44:36,960 Speaker 1: it to home people. They only gave it to home 832 00:44:37,160 --> 00:44:39,719 Speaker 1: people at my school. So we had the baby. I 833 00:44:39,800 --> 00:44:42,080 Speaker 1: remember I took up, but you get the baby for 834 00:44:42,160 --> 00:44:44,680 Speaker 1: like twenty four hours, because I think that they were 835 00:44:44,760 --> 00:44:46,920 Speaker 1: dealing with parents that were like, don't give my kid 836 00:44:47,000 --> 00:44:49,520 Speaker 1: this baby, you know what I mean, Like, I understand 837 00:44:49,560 --> 00:44:52,239 Speaker 1: he needs to learn about making choices, but I made 838 00:44:52,320 --> 00:44:54,279 Speaker 1: my choices, thank you very much. And I had my 839 00:44:54,440 --> 00:44:57,480 Speaker 1: child when I was damn good and ready and I 840 00:44:57,520 --> 00:45:01,960 Speaker 1: don't need this strange robot baby coming in and absolutely 841 00:45:02,040 --> 00:45:07,440 Speaker 1: screaming on a timer like the baby's getting tossed. So 842 00:45:07,719 --> 00:45:13,279 Speaker 1: so basically, yes, every five six hours, the baby needs 843 00:45:13,360 --> 00:45:15,279 Speaker 1: to eat and then it goes to bed and then 844 00:45:15,320 --> 00:45:18,000 Speaker 1: maybe it makes up wakes up once, but it's not 845 00:45:18,239 --> 00:45:20,600 Speaker 1: a baby, and so careful carries none of the danger 846 00:45:20,719 --> 00:45:24,080 Speaker 1: of real baby, and you're never going to invest in 847 00:45:24,160 --> 00:45:28,880 Speaker 1: that baby. Steaks couldn't be lower, go off, Like what 848 00:45:29,040 --> 00:45:30,879 Speaker 1: do you used to put the bottle in its mouth? 849 00:45:30,960 --> 00:45:33,680 Speaker 1: It was like a battery bottle. So it's like registering 850 00:45:33,719 --> 00:45:35,480 Speaker 1: whether you took care of it or not. Yeah, and 851 00:45:35,520 --> 00:45:37,240 Speaker 1: you didn't have to go and buy a new formula 852 00:45:37,480 --> 00:45:39,680 Speaker 1: you don't have you certainly, I'm sorry. But the car 853 00:45:39,800 --> 00:45:42,520 Speaker 1: seat thing. In the book, Jesse goes into the mechanics 854 00:45:42,600 --> 00:45:44,520 Speaker 1: of putting a car seat, and it's it's one of 855 00:45:44,600 --> 00:45:46,880 Speaker 1: those things like potty training, where you can't possibly be 856 00:45:46,960 --> 00:45:48,680 Speaker 1: thinking about it when you're deciding to have a child, 857 00:45:48,760 --> 00:45:52,759 Speaker 1: but the car seat may scare one away. The car seat, 858 00:45:52,840 --> 00:45:56,200 Speaker 1: I will say, um. And again this is where like 859 00:45:56,360 --> 00:45:58,920 Speaker 1: I I felt a little bit like am I just 860 00:45:59,520 --> 00:46:02,960 Speaker 1: such a fucking terrible piece of ship human being that 861 00:46:03,120 --> 00:46:06,520 Speaker 1: I I'd like hate this so much, and like so 862 00:46:06,719 --> 00:46:13,320 Speaker 1: many days chose to stay at home rather than to 863 00:46:13,400 --> 00:46:15,120 Speaker 1: try to put my kid in the curR seat because 864 00:46:15,120 --> 00:46:19,160 Speaker 1: there were just so many days were like many versions 865 00:46:19,239 --> 00:46:21,400 Speaker 1: of him hating it, many versions of me hating it, 866 00:46:21,560 --> 00:46:25,560 Speaker 1: like him hysterically crying, Like to drive a car while 867 00:46:25,880 --> 00:46:32,239 Speaker 1: a human being is just screaming behind you, Um is 868 00:46:32,840 --> 00:46:36,320 Speaker 1: so nerve racking. It's it's like very little is worth it. 869 00:46:36,400 --> 00:46:38,560 Speaker 1: Because also when you're taking kids somewhere, I'm like, what 870 00:46:38,680 --> 00:46:40,279 Speaker 1: are we going to miss out on the rubber room? 871 00:46:40,360 --> 00:46:43,879 Speaker 1: And we're going to let's stay at home and let's 872 00:46:43,920 --> 00:46:47,520 Speaker 1: like a drink here. But um, and I'm not gonna 873 00:46:47,560 --> 00:46:52,759 Speaker 1: drink obviously. Of course, our producer Becca says, I had 874 00:46:52,800 --> 00:46:54,239 Speaker 1: to do the fake baby in middle school and I 875 00:46:54,280 --> 00:46:56,440 Speaker 1: got stairs in marshals because people thought I was actually 876 00:46:56,520 --> 00:46:59,560 Speaker 1: a teen mom, which is also something you're inviting because 877 00:46:59,560 --> 00:47:02,000 Speaker 1: a lot of the after school hit up the marshalls 878 00:47:02,080 --> 00:47:03,879 Speaker 1: like you do, and they have to bring their damn 879 00:47:03,920 --> 00:47:06,600 Speaker 1: fake baby with them, and then you know, and like 880 00:47:07,400 --> 00:47:10,640 Speaker 1: mother's everywhere. They they're just they're looking at that team 881 00:47:10,719 --> 00:47:13,040 Speaker 1: child and they're thinking who's her mother, and then it 882 00:47:13,120 --> 00:47:17,840 Speaker 1: goes back to your mother. Mix messages. Don't send mixed messages. 883 00:47:17,880 --> 00:47:20,560 Speaker 1: We want these kids to not being babies. Don't like, 884 00:47:20,600 --> 00:47:22,520 Speaker 1: don't give a bait. It's like you should not be 885 00:47:22,600 --> 00:47:24,480 Speaker 1: taking I mean, is that I guess the point. I 886 00:47:24,520 --> 00:47:26,160 Speaker 1: don't know. It's just being good at it or bad 887 00:47:26,239 --> 00:47:29,000 Speaker 1: at it. If everyone everyone in school was like we 888 00:47:29,040 --> 00:47:32,879 Speaker 1: decided we loved it. Yeah, you know what I'm gonna get. 889 00:47:34,800 --> 00:47:37,200 Speaker 1: I have one. I was just remembering there was one 890 00:47:37,440 --> 00:47:40,120 Speaker 1: just in the world of like other sorry adult thing. 891 00:47:40,719 --> 00:47:43,040 Speaker 1: A truly embarrassing memory just came back to me of 892 00:47:43,160 --> 00:47:47,360 Speaker 1: being in college, like my first few months in college, 893 00:47:47,920 --> 00:47:52,960 Speaker 1: and my dad had like opened like a checking account 894 00:47:53,040 --> 00:47:55,160 Speaker 1: for me to have because I was now an adult 895 00:47:55,440 --> 00:47:57,880 Speaker 1: and I was going to have a job at the 896 00:47:58,200 --> 00:48:02,279 Speaker 1: school to pay for my two and I was my 897 00:48:03,080 --> 00:48:06,000 Speaker 1: was a shelver in our library, and so my check 898 00:48:06,440 --> 00:48:08,239 Speaker 1: I gotta check every two weeks or truly, it was 899 00:48:08,280 --> 00:48:10,080 Speaker 1: probably about like four dollars. But I was like, I've 900 00:48:10,080 --> 00:48:15,239 Speaker 1: got to go my check I got. But so I 901 00:48:15,320 --> 00:48:18,880 Speaker 1: got this little check and I was so stupid and 902 00:48:19,120 --> 00:48:25,560 Speaker 1: didn't know anything about anything. I took the check and 903 00:48:25,680 --> 00:48:28,360 Speaker 1: I just was like, I have a bank account and 904 00:48:28,480 --> 00:48:31,080 Speaker 1: this is a check. And there was one bank off 905 00:48:31,200 --> 00:48:34,480 Speaker 1: campus and I just walked into it and I was like, 906 00:48:35,160 --> 00:48:37,960 Speaker 1: here's my check, and they were like, who are you? 907 00:48:39,480 --> 00:48:42,239 Speaker 1: I have an account, don't I. And then they're like, 908 00:48:43,480 --> 00:48:45,759 Speaker 1: you don't have an account here, and I was like, oh, 909 00:48:46,560 --> 00:48:52,120 Speaker 1: that's just there's I am here from my father's bank. 910 00:48:53,120 --> 00:48:56,759 Speaker 1: And it wasn't I didn't know. I just they were like, 911 00:48:56,880 --> 00:48:59,600 Speaker 1: you don't have an account at this bank. There's different banks. 912 00:49:02,400 --> 00:49:07,319 Speaker 1: I was just so like truly just get taken back 913 00:49:07,360 --> 00:49:12,160 Speaker 1: to how embarrassed, Like the person is like, you're so stupid, stupid, 914 00:49:12,800 --> 00:49:15,879 Speaker 1: and I just you know, but I really do feel 915 00:49:16,000 --> 00:49:19,360 Speaker 1: like I mean I still feel this stuff all the 916 00:49:19,440 --> 00:49:23,560 Speaker 1: time I am doing it. I don't know, though, Like 917 00:49:23,719 --> 00:49:25,759 Speaker 1: I think, I like that You're very honest in the 918 00:49:25,800 --> 00:49:29,080 Speaker 1: book about how like you know human beings, Like I 919 00:49:29,160 --> 00:49:31,640 Speaker 1: think I think you were talking about like Umi, there 920 00:49:31,719 --> 00:49:34,000 Speaker 1: was like the like Underbirarse Sandwich, there was something about 921 00:49:34,080 --> 00:49:37,239 Speaker 1: like you know, like human beings are like evolved to 922 00:49:37,600 --> 00:49:41,640 Speaker 1: raise children. Um in a village like have like everyone's 923 00:49:41,640 --> 00:49:45,400 Speaker 1: supposed to hand down this knowledge to you, and like 924 00:49:45,920 --> 00:49:48,279 Speaker 1: I mean with with the Czech situation, like no one 925 00:49:48,440 --> 00:49:50,200 Speaker 1: handed down the knowledge to you that you're supposed to 926 00:49:50,280 --> 00:49:52,319 Speaker 1: like go to your branch of a of a specific thing. 927 00:49:52,520 --> 00:49:56,560 Speaker 1: But um, I like that. I like that. I like 928 00:49:56,719 --> 00:50:01,640 Speaker 1: that there's some something so like concrete about like yes, 929 00:50:01,760 --> 00:50:04,600 Speaker 1: like it makes total sense to have other people helping 930 00:50:04,640 --> 00:50:07,080 Speaker 1: you raise your child, and like I feel like child 931 00:50:07,200 --> 00:50:09,600 Speaker 1: care is I think about for some reason, I think 932 00:50:09,600 --> 00:50:11,600 Speaker 1: about my nieces going to daycare, and I think about 933 00:50:11,640 --> 00:50:14,040 Speaker 1: the people working in that daycare, and I start to 934 00:50:14,320 --> 00:50:17,360 Speaker 1: cry and like they have the hardest fucking jobs in 935 00:50:17,480 --> 00:50:23,160 Speaker 1: the world and doing any of those Wait, how old 936 00:50:23,160 --> 00:50:26,279 Speaker 1: are your nieces? Um? They just turned four and two. 937 00:50:26,719 --> 00:50:30,080 Speaker 1: They're gorgeous and stunning and I think it gonna be 938 00:50:30,320 --> 00:50:38,480 Speaker 1: like they might become nightmare models because they're so beautiful 939 00:50:38,960 --> 00:50:42,360 Speaker 1: that that that like you almost can't be that beautiful 940 00:50:42,680 --> 00:50:45,759 Speaker 1: without having at least monstrous tendencies. But they have the 941 00:50:45,800 --> 00:50:48,480 Speaker 1: best parents and that's good. But it may not matter 942 00:50:48,600 --> 00:50:54,920 Speaker 1: when you're that stunned. We'll see. But um, it's but 943 00:50:55,000 --> 00:50:57,680 Speaker 1: they also have their incredible uncle who will ground them. 944 00:50:58,000 --> 00:51:01,000 Speaker 1: I don't know about that. No bone is going to 945 00:51:01,080 --> 00:51:04,719 Speaker 1: be buying them. And I this is this is this 946 00:51:04,880 --> 00:51:07,120 Speaker 1: is something that like my sister is like so like 947 00:51:07,320 --> 00:51:09,319 Speaker 1: adamant about, like she doesn't want to hire her help. 948 00:51:09,880 --> 00:51:12,280 Speaker 1: And I respect that to an extent. And I'm putting 949 00:51:12,280 --> 00:51:13,920 Speaker 1: my sister in blash. She listens to the podcast. She 950 00:51:13,960 --> 00:51:15,960 Speaker 1: knows I'm saying that talk to you. I'm happy to 951 00:51:16,000 --> 00:51:19,120 Speaker 1: talk to your sister. That's a great please, because Yang, 952 00:51:19,400 --> 00:51:21,120 Speaker 1: I love you so much. And we've talked about this 953 00:51:21,200 --> 00:51:23,120 Speaker 1: and this might be like not cool to like make 954 00:51:23,160 --> 00:51:27,080 Speaker 1: this public, but she she doesn't want help. Yeah, I 955 00:51:27,120 --> 00:51:29,440 Speaker 1: have a lot to say and and and that's a 956 00:51:29,480 --> 00:51:33,920 Speaker 1: hap today and that's and that's so like that's amazing. Um, 957 00:51:34,239 --> 00:51:37,279 Speaker 1: But I think she has this connection to like the 958 00:51:37,320 --> 00:51:40,520 Speaker 1: way our mother raised us, which was no help. She 959 00:51:40,800 --> 00:51:44,600 Speaker 1: was working these insane jobs to support us, didn't speak 960 00:51:44,640 --> 00:51:47,920 Speaker 1: the language that well when she was raising us. Like, 961 00:51:49,040 --> 00:51:54,040 Speaker 1: you know, my mom is just an incredible mother. Umfct 962 00:51:54,080 --> 00:51:57,239 Speaker 1: angel two perfect angels. And I know, and I know 963 00:51:57,400 --> 00:51:59,120 Speaker 1: that this is coming from a place of her wanting 964 00:51:59,160 --> 00:52:02,160 Speaker 1: to honor what our mother did. But I think in 965 00:52:02,200 --> 00:52:07,759 Speaker 1: the ye it's just like it's crazy, it's crazy. So 966 00:52:08,239 --> 00:52:11,479 Speaker 1: my mom, you know, I have two siblings, there's three kids. 967 00:52:12,040 --> 00:52:16,600 Speaker 1: My mom also had no help. There was never any help. 968 00:52:17,040 --> 00:52:21,000 Speaker 1: My dad worked too, sometimes three jobs. My mom worked 969 00:52:21,960 --> 00:52:23,520 Speaker 1: a little bit for a while. I wasn't working when 970 00:52:23,560 --> 00:52:25,600 Speaker 1: we were very young, just because there was no help. 971 00:52:25,719 --> 00:52:28,319 Speaker 1: So you someone has to legally be home. And then 972 00:52:28,400 --> 00:52:30,160 Speaker 1: she was a teacher, so she would go teach, she 973 00:52:30,239 --> 00:52:31,680 Speaker 1: was teaching at our school and then would come home. 974 00:52:31,840 --> 00:52:34,319 Speaker 1: We were shitty little kids. We didn't help her at all. 975 00:52:34,440 --> 00:52:37,400 Speaker 1: We're a little fucking But the same thing that they 976 00:52:37,480 --> 00:52:40,279 Speaker 1: never had any help. I think my parents had like 977 00:52:40,520 --> 00:52:46,120 Speaker 1: one babysitter come one time, and truly like a decade, 978 00:52:46,840 --> 00:52:49,680 Speaker 1: just nothing. So I under and I when I was 979 00:52:49,960 --> 00:52:52,200 Speaker 1: going to have a baby, I was like, well I'm 980 00:52:52,239 --> 00:52:55,840 Speaker 1: not gonna have help, But I'm gonna get this cross 981 00:52:55,880 --> 00:52:58,040 Speaker 1: because I'm gonna nail myself to it. I'm going to 982 00:52:58,160 --> 00:53:01,040 Speaker 1: sucking honor what my parents earns did, honor what my 983 00:53:01,160 --> 00:53:06,040 Speaker 1: mom did. And then real quick it was like, fuck 984 00:53:06,120 --> 00:53:09,800 Speaker 1: that noise. And it's a huge privilege. She would be 985 00:53:09,840 --> 00:53:12,280 Speaker 1: able to have help and my parents didn't have the privilege. 986 00:53:12,360 --> 00:53:14,879 Speaker 1: I don't know if they would have had help, whether 987 00:53:14,960 --> 00:53:17,239 Speaker 1: or not they did, but it wasn't a play. And 988 00:53:18,160 --> 00:53:21,359 Speaker 1: it's so much privilege to have that option. But if 989 00:53:21,400 --> 00:53:24,959 Speaker 1: you have the option, I will just say I can't 990 00:53:24,960 --> 00:53:28,560 Speaker 1: emphasize enough how much she should take it, just because 991 00:53:29,400 --> 00:53:31,960 Speaker 1: I remember, I remember who was who said this to me. 992 00:53:32,120 --> 00:53:36,000 Speaker 1: But it's like, what are you trying to win? There's 993 00:53:36,040 --> 00:53:40,680 Speaker 1: no it's not winning anything. It's not it's not taking 994 00:53:40,719 --> 00:53:44,600 Speaker 1: away anything. It's not like giving anyone a metal. It's 995 00:53:44,719 --> 00:53:47,640 Speaker 1: just we are meant to We are truly meant to 996 00:53:47,719 --> 00:53:49,680 Speaker 1: have more help than we have. And that was an 997 00:53:49,719 --> 00:53:52,480 Speaker 1: interesting part of the book, I think, which contextualized this 998 00:53:52,560 --> 00:53:54,759 Speaker 1: a little bit which I thought was so interesting, which 999 00:53:54,800 --> 00:53:58,200 Speaker 1: is that the doctor that you spoke to or Tony 1000 00:53:58,320 --> 00:54:01,960 Speaker 1: Song be my O B g end to your doctor 1001 00:54:02,160 --> 00:54:05,200 Speaker 1: in New York. Yes, she I mean, this was advice 1002 00:54:05,320 --> 00:54:07,759 Speaker 1: was like so clear to me once I read, but 1003 00:54:07,880 --> 00:54:10,800 Speaker 1: it was, you know, we were designed our bodies, or 1004 00:54:10,960 --> 00:54:13,439 Speaker 1: at least the woman's body was designed to like bear 1005 00:54:13,600 --> 00:54:16,800 Speaker 1: children at like fifteen years old, you know, as a 1006 00:54:16,880 --> 00:54:21,200 Speaker 1: result of just how we've evolved. And back then there 1007 00:54:21,280 --> 00:54:23,760 Speaker 1: would be more help because there were you know, villages 1008 00:54:23,880 --> 00:54:26,959 Speaker 1: of people and there were literally parents that were still 1009 00:54:27,040 --> 00:54:30,880 Speaker 1: young enough to you know, participate in the rearing of 1010 00:54:30,960 --> 00:54:34,400 Speaker 1: a child. And now our society is just simply not 1011 00:54:34,600 --> 00:54:37,040 Speaker 1: set up for that. And so to say I'm not 1012 00:54:37,160 --> 00:54:41,239 Speaker 1: going to have help is actually sort of against naturally 1013 00:54:41,360 --> 00:54:45,880 Speaker 1: what we we are descended from. Gilmour girls. Everyone's supposed 1014 00:54:45,880 --> 00:54:48,200 Speaker 1: to be Gilmo girls. It was always supposed to be 1015 00:54:48,320 --> 00:54:52,439 Speaker 1: like year fourteen and your mom's like best, it's actually 1016 00:54:53,960 --> 00:54:57,759 Speaker 1: we are decided from. It would be like Gilbert girls 1017 00:54:57,800 --> 00:54:59,719 Speaker 1: would be in the house living with like ten other 1018 00:54:59,760 --> 00:55:02,400 Speaker 1: p ten other Gilmore girls. Yeah, it would be like 1019 00:55:03,760 --> 00:55:08,279 Speaker 1: it was Gilmore girls all your great grandmother would be 1020 00:55:08,440 --> 00:55:15,720 Speaker 1: like fifty six capable, capable people all over the place. 1021 00:55:16,239 --> 00:55:19,400 Speaker 1: I was what's called geriatric mother because I was pregnant 1022 00:55:19,400 --> 00:55:25,520 Speaker 1: when I was thirty nine, and I think like starting 1023 00:55:25,560 --> 00:55:29,920 Speaker 1: at thirty eight year like a geriatric pregnant series anyway, medicine. 1024 00:55:30,080 --> 00:55:34,840 Speaker 1: But I my parents and my parents, you know, I 1025 00:55:34,920 --> 00:55:37,840 Speaker 1: have an older brother who sters anyway, my parents were old, 1026 00:55:38,239 --> 00:55:40,160 Speaker 1: like I was old, and so they were old and 1027 00:55:41,000 --> 00:55:44,800 Speaker 1: they were nearby, but like they weren't going to be 1028 00:55:44,880 --> 00:55:48,040 Speaker 1: able to really help, you know what I mean. So yeah, 1029 00:55:48,200 --> 00:55:51,320 Speaker 1: that's the thing. It's just we are we are this 1030 00:55:51,600 --> 00:55:56,000 Speaker 1: idea of like this nuclear family where like, yeah, that's 1031 00:55:56,080 --> 00:55:57,759 Speaker 1: how you're supposed to do on your own. Is really 1032 00:55:57,960 --> 00:56:01,759 Speaker 1: it's really fun. I just want to disclaim to my 1033 00:56:01,920 --> 00:56:06,040 Speaker 1: sister that this is not We're not being prescriptive necessarily, 1034 00:56:06,239 --> 00:56:10,080 Speaker 1: this is just I would never dare tell her how 1035 00:56:10,120 --> 00:56:15,359 Speaker 1: to parent a child, especially being a fucking childless homosexual. Um. 1036 00:56:16,520 --> 00:56:20,960 Speaker 1: But like I just me and me and my brother 1037 00:56:20,960 --> 00:56:23,480 Speaker 1: in law gry on this that like help would be 1038 00:56:28,040 --> 00:56:30,640 Speaker 1: because he's a course of personality he is he is. 1039 00:56:30,719 --> 00:56:32,239 Speaker 1: But I think I think my I think my mom 1040 00:56:32,320 --> 00:56:35,759 Speaker 1: also kind of agrees to that, like anyway, we're not 1041 00:56:35,800 --> 00:56:39,040 Speaker 1: we're not we're not We're not like pressuring her into 1042 00:56:39,120 --> 00:56:41,239 Speaker 1: doing this. I just think and and she is, like 1043 00:56:42,080 --> 00:56:45,080 Speaker 1: and she's going through huge positive changes in her life 1044 00:56:45,560 --> 00:56:47,680 Speaker 1: right now in terms of her career and all this stuff, 1045 00:56:47,719 --> 00:56:49,759 Speaker 1: and she's gonna have time to really pursue things that 1046 00:56:49,840 --> 00:56:53,000 Speaker 1: she wants to do um going forward, which I'm so 1047 00:56:53,160 --> 00:56:57,440 Speaker 1: happy for her about UM. But I think even then, 1048 00:56:57,680 --> 00:57:01,719 Speaker 1: like give yourself some latitude, like I don't know, like 1049 00:57:01,920 --> 00:57:05,360 Speaker 1: cater to your own needs. While she, of course is 1050 00:57:05,440 --> 00:57:07,840 Speaker 1: the best mom in the world to these girls anyway, 1051 00:57:08,400 --> 00:57:10,560 Speaker 1: I'm telling you it will be because of her. If 1052 00:57:10,600 --> 00:57:14,279 Speaker 1: they're not nightmare models because of how gorgeous they simply are. 1053 00:57:14,440 --> 00:57:16,640 Speaker 1: I mean, like I see pictures of them and I 1054 00:57:17,480 --> 00:57:21,840 Speaker 1: sort of have to take another breath. Wow, that's kind 1055 00:57:21,840 --> 00:57:28,520 Speaker 1: of extra breath. Like I'm glad you said that, because 1056 00:57:29,160 --> 00:57:31,480 Speaker 1: the number one thing to me is also and I 1057 00:57:31,560 --> 00:57:35,920 Speaker 1: know I came in really hot about getting help and no, no, no, no, 1058 00:57:36,240 --> 00:57:39,240 Speaker 1: but it is really important that like the most important 1059 00:57:39,280 --> 00:57:41,360 Speaker 1: thing to me is like to each their own and 1060 00:57:41,680 --> 00:57:44,360 Speaker 1: like everyone needs to like find their path, and like 1061 00:57:44,640 --> 00:57:47,880 Speaker 1: no judgments about like mothers who are staying at home 1062 00:57:47,960 --> 00:57:52,840 Speaker 1: without help, no judgments about no judgments. But all I 1063 00:57:52,880 --> 00:57:56,520 Speaker 1: will say if anyone I do think there are a 1064 00:57:56,600 --> 00:57:58,960 Speaker 1: lot of mothers and if anyone's listening, if one of 1065 00:57:59,000 --> 00:58:00,840 Speaker 1: them is your sister, maybe and miss it your sister. 1066 00:58:01,200 --> 00:58:02,880 Speaker 1: But if there's like a little I do feel like 1067 00:58:02,880 --> 00:58:06,240 Speaker 1: there's a lot of mothers who would deep down with 1068 00:58:06,440 --> 00:58:09,880 Speaker 1: like some help but feel guilty about And in those situations, 1069 00:58:09,920 --> 00:58:14,280 Speaker 1: I just think people should permit, permit. I understand the guilt, 1070 00:58:14,480 --> 00:58:26,600 Speaker 1: but permit permit anyway. We would desire to ask you 1071 00:58:26,800 --> 00:58:29,320 Speaker 1: the question, wouldn't you say about I would say so, 1072 00:58:29,800 --> 00:58:33,520 Speaker 1: I would say so, question is that? Jesse? We want 1073 00:58:33,560 --> 00:58:35,000 Speaker 1: to ask you what is the culture that made you 1074 00:58:35,080 --> 00:58:37,720 Speaker 1: say a culture? Is? For me to understand the question, 1075 00:58:38,200 --> 00:58:41,320 Speaker 1: I mean, well, I have a couple. How should I 1076 00:58:41,400 --> 00:58:43,920 Speaker 1: lean into the answer that we were talking about? Hard 1077 00:58:44,000 --> 00:58:52,200 Speaker 1: and raw protection, no mask, no mask. I love this. 1078 00:58:52,400 --> 00:58:55,040 Speaker 1: I love the chapter in your first book. Uh it 1079 00:58:55,120 --> 00:58:57,280 Speaker 1: was about how you became a comedian, and I think 1080 00:58:57,440 --> 00:58:58,960 Speaker 1: like it was like kind of sectioned off. It was 1081 00:58:59,040 --> 00:59:01,880 Speaker 1: like first it was like John Rivers or was bad Marks. 1082 00:59:01,960 --> 00:59:03,800 Speaker 1: It was like like it could be that, and I'm 1083 00:59:03,840 --> 00:59:08,080 Speaker 1: not I'm not describing you know. I feel so absolutely 1084 00:59:08,280 --> 00:59:10,640 Speaker 1: just like swimming and whatever it could be. It could be, 1085 00:59:10,720 --> 00:59:15,960 Speaker 1: it could be anything. I mean, for some reason I 1086 00:59:16,120 --> 00:59:19,480 Speaker 1: had in my mind to talk about like um dirty 1087 00:59:19,640 --> 00:59:26,160 Speaker 1: seeing the movie Dirty Dancing. I feel like just as 1088 00:59:26,320 --> 00:59:33,240 Speaker 1: like a little little jewish, young nerdy, flat chested, original 1089 00:59:33,440 --> 00:59:41,320 Speaker 1: little hole living living in just vergeoning around my little self. 1090 00:59:42,120 --> 00:59:46,320 Speaker 1: Like that movie did loom extremely large when I first 1091 00:59:46,320 --> 00:59:47,800 Speaker 1: saw it, and it was not in the theater because 1092 00:59:47,840 --> 00:59:49,440 Speaker 1: I wasn't cool enough to have friends to go to 1093 00:59:49,480 --> 00:59:52,560 Speaker 1: the theater with. But we did, I think, like after 1094 00:59:53,600 --> 00:59:56,040 Speaker 1: I don't know, saw it on VHS, so what I 1095 00:59:56,080 --> 01:00:00,240 Speaker 1: finally did make friends. So it was about like twall around. 1096 01:00:02,320 --> 01:00:05,320 Speaker 1: I can't remember. I can't remember, but I just remember 1097 01:00:05,400 --> 01:00:08,480 Speaker 1: I was like it alot and unlocked a lot and 1098 01:00:08,600 --> 01:00:12,440 Speaker 1: unlocked a lot. I was like, oh, like they're here's 1099 01:00:12,480 --> 01:00:19,760 Speaker 1: a movie that's like not about like the Blonde other 1100 01:00:21,080 --> 01:00:25,040 Speaker 1: human Like it was just like the p O V. 1101 01:00:25,560 --> 01:00:30,840 Speaker 1: Is this girl with like a big fucking greatness and 1102 01:00:31,000 --> 01:00:34,800 Speaker 1: her little kids walking across the lot. She's gonna like 1103 01:00:34,920 --> 01:00:37,680 Speaker 1: be in the cat skills and it's gonna get like 1104 01:00:37,960 --> 01:00:44,840 Speaker 1: reamed by Patrick's picked up and tossed around. I mean 1105 01:00:44,880 --> 01:00:47,720 Speaker 1: when those reels, I mean, I know we've all seen 1106 01:00:47,720 --> 01:00:51,800 Speaker 1: them probably a million times, but like rehearsal, the rehearsal 1107 01:00:51,920 --> 01:00:55,520 Speaker 1: sessions for dirty Dancing, that like start to go around 1108 01:00:55,520 --> 01:00:58,920 Speaker 1: where you like see them like see Jennifer Grahan Patrick 1109 01:00:59,000 --> 01:01:01,520 Speaker 1: Swayzey like pry to sing and like she'saying her like 1110 01:01:01,760 --> 01:01:13,160 Speaker 1: lead was just like a snake's giving you like. But 1111 01:01:14,760 --> 01:01:16,440 Speaker 1: I was like, oh, like, first of all, it was 1112 01:01:16,480 --> 01:01:18,160 Speaker 1: like one of the first times I felt like just 1113 01:01:18,360 --> 01:01:23,240 Speaker 1: truly a hundred percent of horny because like and just 1114 01:01:23,400 --> 01:01:25,360 Speaker 1: like I think a little bit yeah, just like the 1115 01:01:25,600 --> 01:01:28,360 Speaker 1: po V A bit. I was like, and it was 1116 01:01:28,480 --> 01:01:31,200 Speaker 1: such a huge movie. I don't know. I just was like, 1117 01:01:31,280 --> 01:01:34,400 Speaker 1: maybe I could be a little horny and show girl 1118 01:01:34,520 --> 01:01:36,960 Speaker 1: chewing around with Patrick Swazy and like, I don't know. 1119 01:01:37,040 --> 01:01:40,280 Speaker 1: It just was like maybe there's hope for me story wise, 1120 01:01:40,400 --> 01:01:44,080 Speaker 1: sex wise, yes, absolutely, And there is something too as well. 1121 01:01:45,120 --> 01:01:53,480 Speaker 1: This this sound well to it, you know. It's like 1122 01:01:53,560 --> 01:01:58,280 Speaker 1: that like like deep Man's voice just being like I'm 1123 01:01:58,360 --> 01:02:02,040 Speaker 1: coming to funk, you know what I mean. And then 1124 01:02:02,320 --> 01:02:07,120 Speaker 1: the response of and I'm just like, yeah, you got fucked. 1125 01:02:07,480 --> 01:02:10,920 Speaker 1: I'm just saying there's something about that song to me? 1126 01:02:11,600 --> 01:02:14,480 Speaker 1: Is is there an Oscar winner? I know it was nominated. 1127 01:02:14,640 --> 01:02:19,760 Speaker 1: I feel certain it's not. Actually it won the Academy 1128 01:02:19,800 --> 01:02:26,200 Speaker 1: Award for Best Original Song, and yes, that's original song. 1129 01:02:26,800 --> 01:02:29,080 Speaker 1: But I would also say some other notes that still 1130 01:02:29,280 --> 01:02:32,120 Speaker 1: like ring on full horn for me. And I'm sorry 1131 01:02:32,160 --> 01:02:35,120 Speaker 1: to say it, but like the moment just like do 1132 01:02:37,920 --> 01:02:40,560 Speaker 1: because that's what's playing when he reems around that food, 1133 01:02:42,520 --> 01:02:45,560 Speaker 1: don't you feel like cray like and she's like, I'm 1134 01:02:45,640 --> 01:02:49,120 Speaker 1: murray that I'll never feel that right feeling Right now, 1135 01:02:49,120 --> 01:02:53,480 Speaker 1: I'm doing like a truly terrible one woman show. Yeah, 1136 01:02:53,560 --> 01:02:55,600 Speaker 1: all of that stuff that was just like very very 1137 01:02:57,040 --> 01:03:00,440 Speaker 1: very porny making sounds my voice just like act like 1138 01:03:02,080 --> 01:03:10,360 Speaker 1: you went from virgin how not for many years later, 1139 01:03:10,440 --> 01:03:12,640 Speaker 1: not told many years later, but you had that the 1140 01:03:12,720 --> 01:03:15,760 Speaker 1: fire was lit from within. The fire was lit, and 1141 01:03:16,000 --> 01:03:18,200 Speaker 1: I mean I think it was a fire. It was 1142 01:03:18,240 --> 01:03:21,520 Speaker 1: a figer that probably got lit by Dennis Quaid in 1143 01:03:21,600 --> 01:03:23,880 Speaker 1: the Big Easy. If that is something you guys have 1144 01:03:24,000 --> 01:03:27,800 Speaker 1: ever seen, If you haven't high recommend, I recommend, I'll 1145 01:03:27,840 --> 01:03:29,880 Speaker 1: put that one on the list. Dennis Quaid, there was 1146 01:03:29,960 --> 01:03:31,720 Speaker 1: a there was a period of time there were Yeah, 1147 01:03:31,760 --> 01:03:34,200 Speaker 1: he really sexually worked for me, Dad. I mean that's 1148 01:03:34,280 --> 01:03:38,400 Speaker 1: what Dad is. Yeah, you know what I mean. I know, 1149 01:03:39,320 --> 01:03:41,680 Speaker 1: I mean I've always liked like a very big nose 1150 01:03:41,760 --> 01:03:43,840 Speaker 1: and like he had like such a gigantic nose, and 1151 01:03:43,920 --> 01:03:49,520 Speaker 1: you know what they say anyway, huge, So everyone everyone 1152 01:03:49,560 --> 01:03:51,600 Speaker 1: at home, the readers, what they say is that if 1153 01:03:51,640 --> 01:03:53,280 Speaker 1: you have a big nose, you got a big cock. 1154 01:03:53,600 --> 01:03:59,400 Speaker 1: Huge cock. I had my little t tween age teenage 1155 01:03:59,480 --> 01:04:02,280 Speaker 1: girl wall was like covered in like pictures, like cut 1156 01:04:02,320 --> 01:04:07,120 Speaker 1: out of magazines of like Dennis Quaid. It was like 1157 01:04:07,240 --> 01:04:09,800 Speaker 1: Dennis Quaid and Harrasson Ford. Yeah, guys who could swing 1158 01:04:09,880 --> 01:04:13,920 Speaker 1: an acid. Yeah, yeah, exactly. Anyway, so that was big. 1159 01:04:14,200 --> 01:04:16,640 Speaker 1: I'm mourned for these children who who don't have the 1160 01:04:16,720 --> 01:04:18,440 Speaker 1: collage on the wall, not that I ever did, but 1161 01:04:18,560 --> 01:04:22,040 Speaker 1: like it's people, no one has a collage on the 1162 01:04:22,080 --> 01:04:24,160 Speaker 1: wall anymore. I don't think a lot of them do. 1163 01:04:24,560 --> 01:04:27,240 Speaker 1: I think they have corkboards and ship where they like. 1164 01:04:28,640 --> 01:04:32,240 Speaker 1: But there's nothing like the aesthetic of cutting out a page, 1165 01:04:33,560 --> 01:04:36,680 Speaker 1: cutting around a celebrity and just scotch taping it to 1166 01:04:36,760 --> 01:04:40,320 Speaker 1: your wall directly is like unbeatable. Yeah, I mean that's 1167 01:04:40,320 --> 01:04:42,440 Speaker 1: a really I will say welcome. Yeah, because there's no 1168 01:04:42,520 --> 01:04:45,920 Speaker 1: magazines anymore. But I had got all these magazines and 1169 01:04:46,040 --> 01:04:48,880 Speaker 1: I just I mean just a picture like I mean 1170 01:04:49,000 --> 01:04:51,520 Speaker 1: talking about thinking about your parents po V now in 1171 01:04:51,600 --> 01:04:53,320 Speaker 1: a way that like you didn't like I was just 1172 01:04:53,480 --> 01:04:55,400 Speaker 1: in my very We also were in a very small 1173 01:04:55,400 --> 01:04:57,560 Speaker 1: apartment because of New York City, so it's not like 1174 01:04:57,640 --> 01:05:00,360 Speaker 1: there was any privacy or like they would have not 1175 01:05:00,520 --> 01:05:02,040 Speaker 1: known what was going on in my room, but like 1176 01:05:02,560 --> 01:05:06,320 Speaker 1: to just see their little nerdling slowly putting up this 1177 01:05:09,480 --> 01:05:15,040 Speaker 1: like one by one, like I said, to just slowly 1178 01:05:15,120 --> 01:05:21,160 Speaker 1: realize that she's just making she's making also and being 1179 01:05:21,280 --> 01:05:25,680 Speaker 1: this age, and like remembering vividly how horny you were 1180 01:05:25,680 --> 01:05:28,080 Speaker 1: at that age, like now thinking that we ever felt 1181 01:05:28,080 --> 01:05:32,840 Speaker 1: we could get it past them, Like it's unbelievable how 1182 01:05:33,080 --> 01:05:36,280 Speaker 1: horny children are, and what it must be to watch 1183 01:05:36,360 --> 01:05:39,439 Speaker 1: that happen under your own roof. It's under your own roof, 1184 01:05:39,600 --> 01:05:41,800 Speaker 1: and just yeah, and I also said it was just 1185 01:05:41,960 --> 01:05:45,440 Speaker 1: like happening in slow motion like every day, like just 1186 01:05:45,600 --> 01:05:49,640 Speaker 1: another man. And they're like then they get to assess 1187 01:05:49,680 --> 01:05:53,080 Speaker 1: your taste. They're assessing my taste. They're like seeing and 1188 01:05:53,120 --> 01:05:55,560 Speaker 1: I really can't stress and like how awkward I was. 1189 01:05:55,640 --> 01:05:58,400 Speaker 1: So it's not like clearly are like sort of like 1190 01:05:58,960 --> 01:06:02,200 Speaker 1: blossoming young about her. It's like still just sort of 1191 01:06:02,280 --> 01:06:05,440 Speaker 1: looked like I can't even I mean, just so many 1192 01:06:05,520 --> 01:06:09,640 Speaker 1: braces and glasses, but then like pulsing incentiality, wanting to 1193 01:06:09,680 --> 01:06:13,920 Speaker 1: get boned by these men, and then and my parents 1194 01:06:14,000 --> 01:06:17,440 Speaker 1: also having the decency and sweetness to never make it, 1195 01:06:19,960 --> 01:06:21,960 Speaker 1: never talk about what was going up on the wall. 1196 01:06:22,680 --> 01:06:27,040 Speaker 1: Did they ever ask you about jacking off bow? Did 1197 01:06:27,080 --> 01:06:30,400 Speaker 1: they ever make an issue of it they find anything? Um? 1198 01:06:30,560 --> 01:06:32,760 Speaker 1: I'm positive that my mom would just sort of like 1199 01:06:33,240 --> 01:06:37,720 Speaker 1: see like like a stain on something, you just not 1200 01:06:38,120 --> 01:06:41,400 Speaker 1: think anything of it and just not ask questions. Um No, 1201 01:06:41,800 --> 01:06:43,840 Speaker 1: And I'm actually very grateful that they never brought it up. 1202 01:06:43,880 --> 01:06:46,480 Speaker 1: What about you? There was a time where I mean 1203 01:06:46,520 --> 01:06:48,960 Speaker 1: I was just like abjectly caught like my mom, My 1204 01:06:49,080 --> 01:06:55,160 Speaker 1: mom like, come on something and she heard and she goes, 1205 01:06:55,360 --> 01:06:56,720 Speaker 1: I don't know what this is, but you need to 1206 01:06:56,760 --> 01:06:58,880 Speaker 1: talk to your father about it. And I was like 1207 01:06:59,680 --> 01:07:02,640 Speaker 1: it's nothing, Oh my god, Actually no, I vividly remember 1208 01:07:02,640 --> 01:07:04,800 Speaker 1: what it was. I was like, I fell asleep, I took, 1209 01:07:05,000 --> 01:07:08,400 Speaker 1: I took, I trooled. I literally said that, and then 1210 01:07:08,440 --> 01:07:12,360 Speaker 1: I literally like showed her like see look, putting my 1211 01:07:12,440 --> 01:07:16,280 Speaker 1: head down on the fellow next to the come and 1212 01:07:16,360 --> 01:07:19,120 Speaker 1: I was like, see it was. And my mother looked 1213 01:07:19,160 --> 01:07:22,000 Speaker 1: at me and she was like, you need to talk 1214 01:07:22,360 --> 01:07:26,800 Speaker 1: to your father about this. And I was like your brother. 1215 01:07:28,160 --> 01:07:30,640 Speaker 1: She had one older brother, but she was not ready 1216 01:07:30,720 --> 01:07:33,200 Speaker 1: to deal with it, like and so basically I heard 1217 01:07:33,280 --> 01:07:35,960 Speaker 1: them talk in the next room and my mom goes 1218 01:07:36,040 --> 01:07:38,520 Speaker 1: to my dad. This is the conversation, I swear to God, 1219 01:07:38,560 --> 01:07:40,640 Speaker 1: and I couldn't make it up. My mom goes, did 1220 01:07:40,720 --> 01:07:48,400 Speaker 1: you ever do that? And my dad said no, and 1221 01:07:48,680 --> 01:07:51,360 Speaker 1: my mother and I remember I felt, I'm sitting there, 1222 01:07:51,400 --> 01:07:54,080 Speaker 1: I'm listening to it, and I'm feeling so betrayed by 1223 01:07:54,160 --> 01:07:57,640 Speaker 1: my father because I'm like, you, motherfucker, of course you've 1224 01:07:57,760 --> 01:08:00,560 Speaker 1: done this. I was like, stick up from me. And 1225 01:08:00,640 --> 01:08:02,600 Speaker 1: then I remember my mother was like, you need to 1226 01:08:02,640 --> 01:08:04,960 Speaker 1: talk to him about it. I can't. And he came 1227 01:08:05,000 --> 01:08:07,760 Speaker 1: in like fifteen minutes later, and he was like, you 1228 01:08:07,920 --> 01:08:09,720 Speaker 1: just have to be a little bit more careful and 1229 01:08:09,800 --> 01:08:12,960 Speaker 1: what's happening is completely natural. It's fine, but you just 1230 01:08:13,080 --> 01:08:15,120 Speaker 1: have to be more You just have to be more careful. 1231 01:08:15,360 --> 01:08:19,439 Speaker 1: And that was period all he said. Pretty good. Pretty 1232 01:08:19,600 --> 01:08:22,120 Speaker 1: twenty years later, you're screaming at this old man about 1233 01:08:22,160 --> 01:08:31,719 Speaker 1: Bernie Sanders and this man saved your life. I literally, 1234 01:08:32,040 --> 01:08:36,320 Speaker 1: but I vividly remember the moment I had been caught maturing. 1235 01:08:39,880 --> 01:08:42,920 Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, I know, this is um no content 1236 01:08:43,000 --> 01:08:46,040 Speaker 1: that this is coming for me one day. Has he 1237 01:08:46,160 --> 01:08:49,960 Speaker 1: shown any little signs of horny nous sorry for bringing you? No? 1238 01:08:50,320 --> 01:08:52,400 Speaker 1: Well no, no, no, he's sick, so no. But I 1239 01:08:52,479 --> 01:08:55,760 Speaker 1: mean little kids do. But I will say this all 1240 01:08:55,840 --> 01:08:59,040 Speaker 1: little kids especially, I think generally, Like I know and 1241 01:08:59,120 --> 01:09:02,920 Speaker 1: also my friends who have daughters, same thing, like around 1242 01:09:03,080 --> 01:09:06,800 Speaker 1: five six, Like they are just like touching their genitals 1243 01:09:06,920 --> 01:09:10,000 Speaker 1: all the time all the time. But like and also 1244 01:09:10,120 --> 01:09:12,400 Speaker 1: they don't know, so they're just doing it in front 1245 01:09:12,560 --> 01:09:16,280 Speaker 1: of people. It's like all the time, all the time. 1246 01:09:16,400 --> 01:09:18,519 Speaker 1: It is so funny when you just see kids home 1247 01:09:19,000 --> 01:09:22,280 Speaker 1: they're just publicly just touching themselves. They don't know, and 1248 01:09:22,360 --> 01:09:24,960 Speaker 1: they're totally innocent, and they're not you know, it's not sexual, 1249 01:09:25,080 --> 01:09:27,559 Speaker 1: but maybe it is, like it just sort of feels 1250 01:09:28,160 --> 01:09:31,960 Speaker 1: nice or it's comforting or it's like but you are 1251 01:09:32,960 --> 01:09:38,760 Speaker 1: I chronically feels nice, nice because they it's nice. But 1252 01:09:39,360 --> 01:09:42,720 Speaker 1: I have had moments with myself. You don't want to 1253 01:09:42,840 --> 01:09:47,760 Speaker 1: shame that especially it's like it's nothing, but they get 1254 01:09:47,800 --> 01:09:49,320 Speaker 1: to be a needy You're like you kind of got 1255 01:09:51,120 --> 01:09:53,599 Speaker 1: so but like there are times where like my son 1256 01:09:53,680 --> 01:09:58,000 Speaker 1: and I are like watching TV together, watching Dinosaur Train, 1257 01:09:58,400 --> 01:10:02,360 Speaker 1: a great show, truly a shout out, and he starts 1258 01:10:02,400 --> 01:10:05,320 Speaker 1: to touch himself. He's just well, it's more like just 1259 01:10:05,439 --> 01:10:07,560 Speaker 1: like a guy. It's almost more just like just like 1260 01:10:09,240 --> 01:10:12,400 Speaker 1: like Bundy, it's like hand in pants pants. And that's 1261 01:10:12,400 --> 01:10:15,439 Speaker 1: another moment where I'm just like, what is this life 1262 01:10:16,320 --> 01:10:20,400 Speaker 1: like again? What is this like? Just sitting here watching 1263 01:10:20,479 --> 01:10:26,599 Speaker 1: someone discover their dick? Me Jesse Klenn, I am sitting 1264 01:10:26,640 --> 01:10:29,880 Speaker 1: on a couch watching a show called Dinosaur Dream with 1265 01:10:30,040 --> 01:10:34,200 Speaker 1: this young kid just because hand his pants like Al Bundy. Again, 1266 01:10:34,240 --> 01:10:37,600 Speaker 1: I'm like, I used to just me and drink and 1267 01:10:37,640 --> 01:10:39,840 Speaker 1: blow guys. I don't know why that's always where my 1268 01:10:39,960 --> 01:10:43,360 Speaker 1: mind goes. It's just the other identity. It's the other person. 1269 01:10:43,800 --> 01:10:45,360 Speaker 1: And I totally get where your mind is going there 1270 01:10:45,360 --> 01:10:48,120 Speaker 1: because Matt, when you agree when you're blowing someone like 1271 01:10:49,760 --> 01:10:53,639 Speaker 1: it's it's it is just like it's a confecting moment 1272 01:10:53,680 --> 01:10:56,240 Speaker 1: where you go, this is who I'm I'm a kid. 1273 01:10:58,920 --> 01:11:03,200 Speaker 1: It's so interesting. Um. I was also just like thinking 1274 01:11:03,240 --> 01:11:09,639 Speaker 1: of the whole time where Okay, cathexis, which is when 1275 01:11:09,760 --> 01:11:12,320 Speaker 1: you are like so when you like form this like 1276 01:11:12,600 --> 01:11:17,040 Speaker 1: psychic like association bond with something that you are defined 1277 01:11:17,160 --> 01:11:19,080 Speaker 1: by it. Yeah, I'm butchering it, but it's like a 1278 01:11:19,120 --> 01:11:22,599 Speaker 1: Freudian term. Look at this, and it's it often comes 1279 01:11:22,680 --> 01:11:25,639 Speaker 1: in the heat of a moment, the concentration of mental 1280 01:11:25,760 --> 01:11:28,720 Speaker 1: energy on one particular person, idea, or object, especially to 1281 01:11:28,800 --> 01:11:32,360 Speaker 1: an unhealthy degree. Yeah, well you think, like I actually 1282 01:11:32,439 --> 01:11:35,360 Speaker 1: only exist for this right now, um, and those are 1283 01:11:35,400 --> 01:11:37,920 Speaker 1: the moments where and that's actually and that actually, I 1284 01:11:38,000 --> 01:11:41,439 Speaker 1: think is what's addictive and gets people sometimes doing bad things, 1285 01:11:41,960 --> 01:11:45,200 Speaker 1: is because when they're really really detached in their every 1286 01:11:45,520 --> 01:11:49,840 Speaker 1: day life from what brings them this cathexus to blow jobs, 1287 01:11:50,240 --> 01:11:53,720 Speaker 1: to blow jobs or really to perform whatever type of 1288 01:11:55,120 --> 01:11:58,519 Speaker 1: oral sex is your sex um. But the thing is, 1289 01:11:58,760 --> 01:12:04,280 Speaker 1: it's very interesting to think about that in that context. 1290 01:12:04,439 --> 01:12:07,200 Speaker 1: While you were talking, I couldn't stop thinking about when 1291 01:12:07,280 --> 01:12:09,360 Speaker 1: I got pubes, and that's going to be a whole 1292 01:12:09,400 --> 01:12:12,000 Speaker 1: other thing. When I got when I first got pubes, 1293 01:12:12,200 --> 01:12:14,720 Speaker 1: that was, like I think, it's like when you first 1294 01:12:14,800 --> 01:12:18,320 Speaker 1: get pubes and when you first realize your boner connects 1295 01:12:18,360 --> 01:12:21,000 Speaker 1: to wanting to fuck. Those are two moments. It's like, 1296 01:12:21,880 --> 01:12:24,960 Speaker 1: that's when you that is what puberty really is. I mean, 1297 01:12:25,040 --> 01:12:27,320 Speaker 1: that's the when you can connect those two thoughts and 1298 01:12:27,400 --> 01:12:29,639 Speaker 1: really do the mental math in your brain. That's when 1299 01:12:29,680 --> 01:12:35,120 Speaker 1: you realize you are, you know. Grown. It's funny because 1300 01:12:35,200 --> 01:12:39,000 Speaker 1: I too have like a very vivid it's like just 1301 01:12:39,200 --> 01:12:43,240 Speaker 1: like the time, like a vivid little shard of them. Remember. 1302 01:12:44,640 --> 01:12:48,280 Speaker 1: I just remember being why are we talking about this whatever? 1303 01:12:48,360 --> 01:12:53,080 Speaker 1: That's not dancing, being in the bath and like just 1304 01:12:53,439 --> 01:12:55,960 Speaker 1: chilling like this is not going. I wasn't mastering. It 1305 01:12:56,080 --> 01:12:58,200 Speaker 1: was more just like thinking about truly, I think just 1306 01:12:59,280 --> 01:13:03,280 Speaker 1: being reading. I was just being in this. I think 1307 01:13:03,320 --> 01:13:07,439 Speaker 1: I was reading and then I just was like I'm 1308 01:13:07,479 --> 01:13:11,720 Speaker 1: just look down and then there was like god, I 1309 01:13:12,160 --> 01:13:14,880 Speaker 1: so crazy that we're having these memories or having this conversations. 1310 01:13:14,880 --> 01:13:18,280 Speaker 1: I thought about this forever. But like I remember seeing like, oh, 1311 01:13:18,360 --> 01:13:23,479 Speaker 1: there's like little bubbles, like a little like bubbles like 1312 01:13:23,520 --> 01:13:26,200 Speaker 1: attached down there to like what are they attaching to that? 1313 01:13:26,479 --> 01:13:28,439 Speaker 1: I don't say that before. And they were like on 1314 01:13:28,680 --> 01:13:33,479 Speaker 1: like little hairs, what why what they like that's a 1315 01:13:33,560 --> 01:13:35,840 Speaker 1: new thing. And then I just was like I better 1316 01:13:35,920 --> 01:13:39,680 Speaker 1: keep reading this book. I have to get out of here, 1317 01:13:39,840 --> 01:13:51,240 Speaker 1: back to Cofa. This this literally was this very intellectual. 1318 01:13:52,040 --> 01:13:56,120 Speaker 1: This literally though not to make this clunky connection, but 1319 01:13:56,240 --> 01:13:59,479 Speaker 1: this is why I do love Big Mouth is because 1320 01:13:59,680 --> 01:14:04,240 Speaker 1: it minds the most specific, like hard comedy out of 1321 01:14:04,360 --> 01:14:07,640 Speaker 1: these things, and it's like it actually it reminds me 1322 01:14:07,720 --> 01:14:09,880 Speaker 1: of the specificity with which you write in the book too, 1323 01:14:09,960 --> 01:14:12,080 Speaker 1: because it's like something the comedy in that show is 1324 01:14:12,200 --> 01:14:16,519 Speaker 1: so specific and so vivid and so blown out. And 1325 01:14:16,680 --> 01:14:19,120 Speaker 1: obviously because it's animated, they can do that. That's what 1326 01:14:19,320 --> 01:14:23,160 Speaker 1: makes it a classic to me. And we're sitting here 1327 01:14:23,160 --> 01:14:27,240 Speaker 1: is so engrossed in this conversation because it is you 1328 01:14:27,400 --> 01:14:29,680 Speaker 1: do get the opportunity to be so specific about it, 1329 01:14:29,720 --> 01:14:32,080 Speaker 1: which is why it's so funny. I mean, they're so 1330 01:14:32,320 --> 01:14:36,559 Speaker 1: incredible and like the writers on the show and Nick 1331 01:14:36,640 --> 01:14:43,480 Speaker 1: and everybody market channel is unreal. He is unreal, unreal 1332 01:14:43,960 --> 01:14:48,439 Speaker 1: human being. I don't he a full unicorn of a man, 1333 01:14:48,760 --> 01:14:54,320 Speaker 1: just like a white horn, a bristly tale. Uh. You 1334 01:14:54,360 --> 01:14:55,840 Speaker 1: know we all see in our mind's eye what kind 1335 01:14:55,840 --> 01:15:03,040 Speaker 1: of like just a strong, strong uniform. But he galloping um, 1336 01:15:03,720 --> 01:15:06,240 Speaker 1: I mean that was the other well, but no, he 1337 01:15:06,520 --> 01:15:11,640 Speaker 1: The stuff that they that they excavate about puberty is 1338 01:15:11,840 --> 01:15:16,200 Speaker 1: so yeah, it's so deep and they're like almost every 1339 01:15:16,280 --> 01:15:19,360 Speaker 1: time I get one of those scripts, there's something in there. 1340 01:15:19,400 --> 01:15:23,600 Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, fucking fun I haven't thought about that, 1341 01:15:24,320 --> 01:15:27,799 Speaker 1: like the stuff they did with like Jesse getting or period, 1342 01:15:27,960 --> 01:15:31,479 Speaker 1: and like they've gone like more about like tampons, and 1343 01:15:32,040 --> 01:15:36,040 Speaker 1: we're just like it's so real and small but so 1344 01:15:36,200 --> 01:15:40,599 Speaker 1: emotionally huge area. This is an annoying question, and I'm 1345 01:15:40,600 --> 01:15:42,479 Speaker 1: sure you even asked this a million times. Is this 1346 01:15:42,560 --> 01:15:45,640 Speaker 1: going to be like teachable to Astro when he's like 1347 01:15:45,880 --> 01:15:47,639 Speaker 1: that age or is that going to be like something 1348 01:15:47,720 --> 01:15:51,280 Speaker 1: you show big Mouth? Yeah, well, you know, it's so 1349 01:15:51,400 --> 01:15:55,439 Speaker 1: funny because I have some like a couple of friends 1350 01:15:55,560 --> 01:15:59,559 Speaker 1: might have kids who are older, like they're like thirteen. Actually, 1351 01:15:59,760 --> 01:16:03,240 Speaker 1: an old friend of mine who I met when when 1352 01:16:03,280 --> 01:16:07,439 Speaker 1: we were in fifth grade, and now it kills me 1353 01:16:07,520 --> 01:16:10,679 Speaker 1: because her son is now the age like when there's 1354 01:16:10,680 --> 01:16:14,320 Speaker 1: a moment he was the age we met. But she 1355 01:16:14,680 --> 01:16:18,360 Speaker 1: told me that they watch Big Mouth together. A lot 1356 01:16:18,439 --> 01:16:20,680 Speaker 1: of people watch it with their kids, And now I 1357 01:16:20,800 --> 01:16:23,320 Speaker 1: have to say it makes me so happy because I 1358 01:16:23,400 --> 01:16:25,960 Speaker 1: do think it's like such a positive, incredible show and 1359 01:16:26,080 --> 01:16:30,280 Speaker 1: like could bridge so many conversations for parents to have. 1360 01:16:30,560 --> 01:16:34,559 Speaker 1: But at the same time, I think about like sitting 1361 01:16:34,640 --> 01:16:39,760 Speaker 1: with my mom or dad, like looking at anything like 1362 01:16:40,040 --> 01:16:44,519 Speaker 1: the tiniest smooch happening on TV, and I would have 1363 01:16:44,600 --> 01:16:46,880 Speaker 1: to like go get in a car and out to 1364 01:16:46,880 --> 01:16:50,080 Speaker 1: another stage. I couldn't I couldn't sit next to them 1365 01:16:50,120 --> 01:16:52,559 Speaker 1: and look at anything. So I don't quite know how that. Yeah, 1366 01:16:52,920 --> 01:16:55,000 Speaker 1: that's that's kind of a crazy thing to think about, 1367 01:16:55,720 --> 01:16:59,240 Speaker 1: you know, like hearing mommy's voice someone with Mommy's voice 1368 01:16:59,280 --> 01:17:05,640 Speaker 1: having period, you know, like, oh my god. I know 1369 01:17:06,479 --> 01:17:09,120 Speaker 1: until you just said that, I honestly hadn't even thought about. 1370 01:17:09,880 --> 01:17:12,000 Speaker 1: I was like, oh, well, I watched this show with him, 1371 01:17:12,120 --> 01:17:13,920 Speaker 1: like the way my friends watched, and I'm like, oh, 1372 01:17:13,960 --> 01:17:17,760 Speaker 1: I'm in it, and your name, her name is Jesse, Jesse, 1373 01:17:18,040 --> 01:17:21,559 Speaker 1: and there's some stuff coming up that I remember. Oh boy, 1374 01:17:21,760 --> 01:17:26,160 Speaker 1: I haven't even thought about that. Forgett you know. I 1375 01:17:26,240 --> 01:17:28,560 Speaker 1: feel like though there is a certain time where you 1376 01:17:28,800 --> 01:17:32,160 Speaker 1: understand your parent's sense of humor and then it's okay 1377 01:17:32,439 --> 01:17:34,600 Speaker 1: because you can you can all accept it as like 1378 01:17:35,120 --> 01:17:38,080 Speaker 1: a comedic program like I remember, I don't know, like 1379 01:17:38,760 --> 01:17:41,000 Speaker 1: there was my dad was always like I think okay 1380 01:17:41,080 --> 01:17:43,120 Speaker 1: with me watching certain things with him, and my mother 1381 01:17:43,240 --> 01:17:45,160 Speaker 1: was the one that was like Richie and I would 1382 01:17:45,200 --> 01:17:48,879 Speaker 1: have to get sent out of the room like Austin Powers. 1383 01:17:49,040 --> 01:17:51,439 Speaker 1: I think my dad would have loved to sit and 1384 01:17:51,520 --> 01:17:55,560 Speaker 1: watch with me, but my mother was I would categorize 1385 01:17:55,600 --> 01:17:59,439 Speaker 1: her as freaking out during the whole thing, like I 1386 01:17:59,479 --> 01:18:03,320 Speaker 1: don't know, I don't know about this, you know, this 1387 01:18:03,520 --> 01:18:07,599 Speaker 1: is all, this is too much, and she just wouldn't stop. 1388 01:18:07,640 --> 01:18:09,479 Speaker 1: And in an effort to get her to stop so 1389 01:18:09,600 --> 01:18:11,400 Speaker 1: he could enjoy it, he was like, yeah, go get out. 1390 01:18:11,800 --> 01:18:13,360 Speaker 1: The one time during the day he took me to 1391 01:18:13,439 --> 01:18:16,360 Speaker 1: Nutty Professor, and I think I did have to ask 1392 01:18:16,400 --> 01:18:20,000 Speaker 1: some questions about about things after that, and that's I guess, 1393 01:18:20,080 --> 01:18:22,439 Speaker 1: just the risk you run when you invite the child 1394 01:18:22,520 --> 01:18:27,639 Speaker 1: in on big mouth. You know. My dad was put 1395 01:18:28,360 --> 01:18:31,160 Speaker 1: Like I said, he was working many, many, many hours, 1396 01:18:31,240 --> 01:18:35,480 Speaker 1: and so I don't know what circumstances could have possibly 1397 01:18:35,760 --> 01:18:37,600 Speaker 1: led to him being in charge of me and my 1398 01:18:37,800 --> 01:18:39,840 Speaker 1: best friend at the time when we were nine years old. 1399 01:18:39,960 --> 01:18:43,080 Speaker 1: Somehow it must have been a day from school. I 1400 01:18:43,160 --> 01:18:45,160 Speaker 1: truly think my mom must have maybe had a surgery, 1401 01:18:45,600 --> 01:18:49,920 Speaker 1: like she must have really been recovering from an anesthesia. 1402 01:18:50,439 --> 01:18:54,320 Speaker 1: With my dad, God bless me, it's like the one 1403 01:18:55,160 --> 01:18:58,240 Speaker 1: the one time it was like somehow he was in 1404 01:18:58,360 --> 01:19:00,280 Speaker 1: charge of me and my best friend were nine year old, 1405 01:19:00,280 --> 01:19:02,000 Speaker 1: like what is he going to do with us for 1406 01:19:02,080 --> 01:19:05,439 Speaker 1: the day? And he took us, He took we're nine. 1407 01:19:05,920 --> 01:19:10,720 Speaker 1: He took us to see I'm a Dais If you've 1408 01:19:10,800 --> 01:19:17,599 Speaker 1: ever seen me like this movie everywhere, So, I mean 1409 01:19:17,680 --> 01:19:19,880 Speaker 1: that is my main memory was. It was like so 1410 01:19:20,120 --> 01:19:30,080 Speaker 1: much heathing pitch. There's mania in vanity. It's just my 1411 01:19:30,520 --> 01:19:35,360 Speaker 1: blue is the warmest color. But I really think in 1412 01:19:35,520 --> 01:19:37,080 Speaker 1: his mind he was like, I'm going to take her 1413 01:19:37,080 --> 01:19:41,640 Speaker 1: to see a movie about Mozart about like he just 1414 01:19:41,800 --> 01:19:45,920 Speaker 1: didn't in fairness and like the same fairness there's no Internet. 1415 01:19:46,080 --> 01:19:48,880 Speaker 1: Maybe he just was like it's a movie about the music. 1416 01:19:50,720 --> 01:19:56,160 Speaker 1: For me, just it was I mean, me and my 1417 01:19:56,320 --> 01:19:58,679 Speaker 1: friend talked about like certain things like when you see 1418 01:19:58,760 --> 01:20:01,240 Speaker 1: something as a own person or a kid that like 1419 01:20:01,360 --> 01:20:03,320 Speaker 1: you're not supposed to have seen you you and you're 1420 01:20:03,320 --> 01:20:06,720 Speaker 1: a teenager or whatever, and it that it gets burned in, 1421 01:20:07,760 --> 01:20:10,840 Speaker 1: like get burned in there, and like I remember like 1422 01:20:11,960 --> 01:20:15,320 Speaker 1: like we burned in. We were not okay for I 1423 01:20:15,360 --> 01:20:18,680 Speaker 1: think for people like like around Matton my age, like 1424 01:20:18,960 --> 01:20:21,120 Speaker 1: it was titan Titanic was the thing, right, There was 1425 01:20:21,160 --> 01:20:23,479 Speaker 1: a conversation for sure. It was like because she bare 1426 01:20:23,560 --> 01:20:26,320 Speaker 1: her breasts and it was the breast and the car 1427 01:20:26,400 --> 01:20:30,840 Speaker 1: sex like the hand, the hand fully covered my eyes. 1428 01:20:31,240 --> 01:20:34,040 Speaker 1: And I remember that so vividly. Oh yeah, I remember 1429 01:20:34,080 --> 01:20:37,880 Speaker 1: the conversation because I remember that was when I started, 1430 01:20:38,040 --> 01:20:40,840 Speaker 1: honestly the culture that made me say culture was for me. 1431 01:20:41,640 --> 01:20:43,479 Speaker 1: One thing that could really be in the running was 1432 01:20:43,560 --> 01:20:49,400 Speaker 1: the Titanic of the frenzy, that the thing of Titanic 1433 01:20:49,520 --> 01:20:53,639 Speaker 1: and Leo when it was like inescapable, and I just remember, 1434 01:20:54,160 --> 01:20:56,760 Speaker 1: because it was so inescapable, my parents did have to 1435 01:20:56,880 --> 01:20:59,040 Speaker 1: have a sit down discussion about whether or not they 1436 01:20:59,040 --> 01:21:01,880 Speaker 1: would let their child me see this movie and what 1437 01:21:02,040 --> 01:21:06,280 Speaker 1: the parameters were because I became so one track minded 1438 01:21:06,320 --> 01:21:09,960 Speaker 1: about Titanic. Yeah, you had that, you had, but it's 1439 01:21:10,000 --> 01:21:19,040 Speaker 1: like and I was, I was seven, you were Okay, 1440 01:21:20,520 --> 01:21:22,800 Speaker 1: this is what I'm saying. You were seven and you 1441 01:21:22,880 --> 01:21:26,759 Speaker 1: were going to see Titanic. Yes, but Jesse, imagine revisit again, 1442 01:21:26,960 --> 01:21:30,439 Speaker 1: the mono culture. If he was only talking about one thing, 1443 01:21:31,080 --> 01:21:33,600 Speaker 1: the only thing, it was the only thing. Did you 1444 01:21:33,640 --> 01:21:40,599 Speaker 1: go see it? Absolutely? Like at least three times I became. 1445 01:21:40,760 --> 01:21:45,439 Speaker 1: I became like infatuated with Kate Winslet in a way 1446 01:21:45,560 --> 01:21:49,880 Speaker 1: that I think I remember I didn't know at the time, 1447 01:21:50,800 --> 01:21:55,840 Speaker 1: but I was standing, you know what I mean. I 1448 01:21:56,000 --> 01:21:57,920 Speaker 1: was like like when I remember when I first saw 1449 01:21:57,960 --> 01:22:01,080 Speaker 1: Atlesha's overstone and clueless. I didn't know at the time, 1450 01:22:01,240 --> 01:22:04,200 Speaker 1: I was standing, but and then rose when she turned 1451 01:22:04,200 --> 01:22:07,000 Speaker 1: around in that hat. And then what about Cathy Bates? 1452 01:22:07,520 --> 01:22:10,040 Speaker 1: I remember standing Kathy Bates the second I saw and 1453 01:22:10,640 --> 01:22:13,479 Speaker 1: what was what was the moment it was? It was 1454 01:22:13,520 --> 01:22:16,479 Speaker 1: Molly Brown. I remember moving to Denver and I hated it, 1455 01:22:16,640 --> 01:22:18,360 Speaker 1: but then we did a tour where like there was 1456 01:22:18,400 --> 01:22:21,000 Speaker 1: the Molly Brown House. Whatever, it doesn't matter, like I 1457 01:22:21,080 --> 01:22:24,759 Speaker 1: think it matters the most, and you know it, whatever, 1458 01:22:25,680 --> 01:22:28,000 Speaker 1: it doesn't matter, No, it does. It fully matters. It 1459 01:22:28,080 --> 01:22:30,479 Speaker 1: fully matters. But like, okay, is it just like blowing 1460 01:22:30,520 --> 01:22:32,800 Speaker 1: your mind that, like Matt was ashs age that we 1461 01:22:33,080 --> 01:22:36,800 Speaker 1: would age just a flashback to what I was saying before, 1462 01:22:36,880 --> 01:22:38,960 Speaker 1: Like so Asher is going to be seven in June 1463 01:22:39,680 --> 01:22:44,799 Speaker 1: and we really only watch Dinosaur Maybe you don't understand 1464 01:22:44,800 --> 01:22:48,519 Speaker 1: what Dinosaur Trate is. It's a show about dinosaurs taking 1465 01:22:48,520 --> 01:22:51,840 Speaker 1: a train through various parts of the dinosaur era. Honestly 1466 01:22:51,920 --> 01:22:57,240 Speaker 1: that does. Um it's actually really well does. But yeah, 1467 01:22:57,280 --> 01:23:01,080 Speaker 1: I can't imagine him watching Titanic. But but it's interesting 1468 01:23:01,120 --> 01:23:04,320 Speaker 1: because he also now I do know he and I'm 1469 01:23:04,360 --> 01:23:07,400 Speaker 1: not like, um, I'm not trying to like shield him 1470 01:23:07,640 --> 01:23:11,439 Speaker 1: from stuff. I will say, like I find like a 1471 01:23:11,520 --> 01:23:13,400 Speaker 1: lot of shows that are made for kids are just 1472 01:23:13,520 --> 01:23:17,240 Speaker 1: so hyper and annoying and shitty, because I always wanted 1473 01:23:17,280 --> 01:23:20,160 Speaker 1: to like where it's like so violent and crazy and 1474 01:23:20,360 --> 01:23:24,640 Speaker 1: like really just awful. Um, but I do know, like 1475 01:23:24,720 --> 01:23:26,720 Speaker 1: I remember an article a few years ago in The 1476 01:23:26,800 --> 01:23:29,519 Speaker 1: Times about like someone like I was so excited when 1477 01:23:29,560 --> 01:23:31,800 Speaker 1: their kid turned seven to take them, like to show 1478 01:23:31,840 --> 01:23:35,240 Speaker 1: them Star Wars, and so I'm like, I don't know, 1479 01:23:35,400 --> 01:23:38,040 Speaker 1: maybe he's maybe he's ready to just tic feels a 1480 01:23:38,080 --> 01:23:43,679 Speaker 1: little on a day, but I guess it's mostly other 1481 01:23:43,800 --> 01:23:46,800 Speaker 1: than the handle the car window and the boobs, you 1482 01:23:46,840 --> 01:23:49,040 Speaker 1: know what. The thing about it though, is it's violence, 1483 01:23:49,120 --> 01:23:50,960 Speaker 1: and like that's another thing is it's just like there's 1484 01:23:51,000 --> 01:23:55,040 Speaker 1: a there, there's gunfire. There's that in us of people 1485 01:23:57,240 --> 01:24:01,960 Speaker 1: honestly omesurable. Those are the images that I do remember 1486 01:24:02,040 --> 01:24:04,880 Speaker 1: from seeing it, and like I do sort of feel 1487 01:24:05,720 --> 01:24:07,720 Speaker 1: I have I learned when I think about, like, you know, 1488 01:24:07,800 --> 01:24:11,000 Speaker 1: watching them wade through the dead bodies in the water. 1489 01:24:11,520 --> 01:24:14,040 Speaker 1: It's just it really was. So I don't know about 1490 01:24:14,200 --> 01:24:16,880 Speaker 1: all that, but the titties were just twitties, you know 1491 01:24:16,920 --> 01:24:20,080 Speaker 1: what I mean. Like, and I continued to stand throughout. 1492 01:24:20,160 --> 01:24:22,360 Speaker 1: I think I deeply knew in my soul I wasn't 1493 01:24:22,400 --> 01:24:26,200 Speaker 1: attracted to her, but I definitely thought she was glorious 1494 01:24:26,840 --> 01:24:29,680 Speaker 1: and I had an appreciate, I had appreciation and just 1495 01:24:30,120 --> 01:24:32,680 Speaker 1: she like was a full movie star and I was 1496 01:24:32,760 --> 01:24:35,120 Speaker 1: so obsessed with her. So I feel I would have 1497 01:24:35,160 --> 01:24:37,599 Speaker 1: been a nightmare had my parents not let me see 1498 01:24:37,720 --> 01:24:40,200 Speaker 1: that film. And also, of course in the back of 1499 01:24:40,280 --> 01:24:45,599 Speaker 1: your little game mind, there's Leo. But what I'm saying 1500 01:24:45,640 --> 01:24:49,120 Speaker 1: to you is that that was definitely a part of 1501 01:24:49,160 --> 01:24:53,640 Speaker 1: it at seven. So just around the river bend, she 1502 01:24:53,800 --> 01:25:00,479 Speaker 1: takes the deepest frind out, Okay. I think like watching 1503 01:25:00,560 --> 01:25:03,519 Speaker 1: Seinfeld when I was seven, I was like, yeah, my 1504 01:25:03,960 --> 01:25:05,840 Speaker 1: parents didn't know what was on, and like they left 1505 01:25:05,880 --> 01:25:07,519 Speaker 1: me on supervise to watch TV and I would just 1506 01:25:07,600 --> 01:25:12,200 Speaker 1: like turn on like whatever syndicated five o'clock, like sitcoms 1507 01:25:12,240 --> 01:25:15,920 Speaker 1: on was gonna be a little sheltered, might be it. No, No, 1508 01:25:16,439 --> 01:25:19,479 Speaker 1: I'm just no. We're just saying like like it's I 1509 01:25:19,520 --> 01:25:21,800 Speaker 1: don't know, maybe Matt and I are a little sucked up, 1510 01:25:21,800 --> 01:25:23,360 Speaker 1: but like it's not. I don't think it's because of 1511 01:25:23,479 --> 01:25:27,280 Speaker 1: those media you know, I mean I was in a cinema, 1512 01:25:27,479 --> 01:25:29,759 Speaker 1: Like what percentage of your personality do you think exists 1513 01:25:29,760 --> 01:25:33,240 Speaker 1: because you saw Titanic when you were probably if I 1514 01:25:33,280 --> 01:25:36,840 Speaker 1: were to really think about it, yeah, a lot. And also, 1515 01:25:37,040 --> 01:25:39,840 Speaker 1: you know, the Titanic for us was Titanic for us? 1516 01:25:39,960 --> 01:25:43,240 Speaker 1: Was the mania around Titanic? Then like the Oscars being 1517 01:25:43,320 --> 01:25:47,599 Speaker 1: like must exactly yeah, and then and then and then 1518 01:25:47,640 --> 01:25:49,439 Speaker 1: the kids like I don't know, gay boys are a 1519 01:25:49,640 --> 01:25:52,439 Speaker 1: being obsessed with awards shows, Like I think that that 1520 01:25:52,560 --> 01:25:54,680 Speaker 1: that's that's an imprinting moment, Like it had to line 1521 01:25:54,760 --> 01:25:58,800 Speaker 1: up perfectly. It hit every box because it was it 1522 01:25:58,920 --> 01:26:03,400 Speaker 1: was it was literally learning to learning to stand an actress. 1523 01:26:04,080 --> 01:26:07,120 Speaker 1: It was you know and one of the goats and 1524 01:26:07,240 --> 01:26:09,519 Speaker 1: one of the goats who actually literally did become one 1525 01:26:09,560 --> 01:26:12,080 Speaker 1: of the goats and still has you know, ardent fans 1526 01:26:12,200 --> 01:26:17,160 Speaker 1: because of that imprint. It was also Celendon. It was 1527 01:26:17,280 --> 01:26:21,680 Speaker 1: pop music, it was diva worship, it was camp, it 1528 01:26:21,840 --> 01:26:25,760 Speaker 1: was budget and it was Oscars in a in a 1529 01:26:25,880 --> 01:26:29,719 Speaker 1: culture when one thing existed, So it just of course 1530 01:26:30,000 --> 01:26:32,320 Speaker 1: we're all going to have like a you know, when 1531 01:26:32,600 --> 01:26:34,800 Speaker 1: baby opens their first eyes and sees mommy thing with 1532 01:26:34,880 --> 01:26:38,639 Speaker 1: Kate Winslet and Celendion there forever. That's so I mean, 1533 01:26:39,760 --> 01:26:43,400 Speaker 1: just thinking about I will. I don't want your parents, 1534 01:26:43,520 --> 01:26:45,759 Speaker 1: if they're listening or whatever, to feel like I'm judging 1535 01:26:45,800 --> 01:26:52,160 Speaker 1: them for using Titanic. No, because as we're talking about 1536 01:26:52,160 --> 01:26:57,640 Speaker 1: I am remembering just it was like there was just Titanic, 1537 01:26:57,800 --> 01:27:00,320 Speaker 1: and it was like that was like a rule of culture, 1538 01:27:00,400 --> 01:27:02,280 Speaker 1: like you just had to go see it, like the 1539 01:27:02,479 --> 01:27:07,120 Speaker 1: minute you the minute you could, for the whole year. 1540 01:27:07,439 --> 01:27:11,720 Speaker 1: And I actually remember seeing it at Union Square with 1541 01:27:12,880 --> 01:27:16,920 Speaker 1: my boyfriend at the time, and uh, it was the 1542 01:27:17,040 --> 01:27:23,479 Speaker 1: craziest thing because it was path theater because Titanic, and uh, 1543 01:27:24,680 --> 01:27:29,680 Speaker 1: right at the moment where Kate Winslet is on the iceberg, 1544 01:27:30,200 --> 01:27:33,439 Speaker 1: we've been waiting to see this ship fucking sink and 1545 01:27:33,640 --> 01:27:36,280 Speaker 1: we're like everyone's like like waiting, like I want to 1546 01:27:36,520 --> 01:27:40,200 Speaker 1: see that bow go down. She's on the thing, she's 1547 01:27:40,200 --> 01:27:45,080 Speaker 1: blowing that whistle or whatever. In front of me. One 1548 01:27:45,200 --> 01:27:48,200 Speaker 1: row in front of me, someone projectile throws up on 1549 01:27:48,320 --> 01:27:50,599 Speaker 1: the person in front of them, like someone who had 1550 01:27:50,680 --> 01:27:53,360 Speaker 1: just been like guzzling it down or drinking and like 1551 01:27:53,520 --> 01:27:59,320 Speaker 1: the coil fear like it was someone Oh my god, 1552 01:27:59,439 --> 01:28:04,639 Speaker 1: oh I got It's like it was truly. So were 1553 01:28:04,680 --> 01:28:10,000 Speaker 1: you laughing though in the moment behind, because but it 1554 01:28:10,120 --> 01:28:14,920 Speaker 1: was just it was like everyone was having tatanic Ruin. Also, 1555 01:28:15,080 --> 01:28:19,560 Speaker 1: that's like a moment where she's literally everyone was experiencing 1556 01:28:19,720 --> 01:28:28,960 Speaker 1: her live that moment and the regal union here or 1557 01:28:29,000 --> 01:28:32,920 Speaker 1: whatever the hell which has really seen it all? Oh 1558 01:28:33,120 --> 01:28:36,960 Speaker 1: my god, the things I've seen there talking about blown guys, 1559 01:28:38,200 --> 01:28:41,639 Speaker 1: Oh my god, good friend, I don't know. But also 1560 01:28:42,760 --> 01:28:44,800 Speaker 1: literally before before we do, I don't think, so, honey, 1561 01:28:45,240 --> 01:28:48,559 Speaker 1: there is something here. There is something here because also 1562 01:28:48,760 --> 01:28:51,519 Speaker 1: you as a person who is a parent. And the 1563 01:28:51,680 --> 01:28:53,639 Speaker 1: story that I always bring up for this is Bone 1564 01:28:53,720 --> 01:28:57,160 Speaker 1: remembers Anadres and me and Bonin went to go see 1565 01:28:57,360 --> 01:29:00,800 Speaker 1: Fifty Shades of Gray on Valentine's Day, first day, the 1566 01:29:00,880 --> 01:29:03,679 Speaker 1: first day, and we this is one of our favorite 1567 01:29:03,680 --> 01:29:07,599 Speaker 1: things that's ever happened. So no, we actually were doing 1568 01:29:07,760 --> 01:29:11,280 Speaker 1: quite well, very enriching. We we So we're there and 1569 01:29:11,439 --> 01:29:15,759 Speaker 1: we're watching the film. We're experience and absorbing fifty Shades 1570 01:29:15,760 --> 01:29:18,200 Speaker 1: of Gray, and the audience was very bonded by like 1571 01:29:18,439 --> 01:29:21,320 Speaker 1: you know, you know act too by the end of 1572 01:29:21,360 --> 01:29:23,920 Speaker 1: Act too, like this was an audience I was willing 1573 01:29:23,960 --> 01:29:26,160 Speaker 1: to laugh at it. There's an audience that was like 1574 01:29:26,280 --> 01:29:28,760 Speaker 1: kind of understood how CAMPI and stupid and fun were 1575 01:29:28,800 --> 01:29:35,519 Speaker 1: all they're together like to see. So then probably I'm 1576 01:29:35,520 --> 01:29:39,599 Speaker 1: gonna say at least five or six lashings have gone by, 1577 01:29:39,720 --> 01:29:41,679 Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Like we've seen the girl 1578 01:29:43,080 --> 01:29:48,280 Speaker 1: participate in BDSM for certain, and we here from the 1579 01:29:48,360 --> 01:29:51,519 Speaker 1: back of the theater literally like if you could pick 1580 01:29:51,960 --> 01:29:55,200 Speaker 1: the sentence that a baby says, they said it, Daddy, 1581 01:29:55,240 --> 01:29:59,360 Speaker 1: I gotta go to the bed. And when I tell you, 1582 01:29:59,640 --> 01:30:03,479 Speaker 1: the hire theater had to get the definition of a 1583 01:30:03,560 --> 01:30:07,400 Speaker 1: catharsis when we all realized that there was a child 1584 01:30:07,439 --> 01:30:11,000 Speaker 1: who had seen what we had seen, and we all 1585 01:30:11,160 --> 01:30:15,360 Speaker 1: like held each other straight strangers looked each other in 1586 01:30:15,439 --> 01:30:18,120 Speaker 1: the eye and knew that they were bonded for life. 1587 01:30:18,320 --> 01:30:20,920 Speaker 1: It was so crazy. The movie ended and we were 1588 01:30:21,080 --> 01:30:24,559 Speaker 1: sort of like debriefing about it, and I remember Anna said, yeah, 1589 01:30:24,600 --> 01:30:27,040 Speaker 1: but you know what though, like maybe they didn't have 1590 01:30:27,200 --> 01:30:28,800 Speaker 1: help and they really wanted to see the movie. And 1591 01:30:28,880 --> 01:30:31,080 Speaker 1: I thought to myself, you know what, there is a 1592 01:30:31,160 --> 01:30:33,840 Speaker 1: negotiation between you know what, one for them, one for you. 1593 01:30:34,479 --> 01:30:37,880 Speaker 1: You have to survive too, you need to consume, consume media. 1594 01:30:38,200 --> 01:30:41,479 Speaker 1: It's of course one of the food groups. Media. It's 1595 01:30:41,520 --> 01:30:44,439 Speaker 1: like as as important as a car, and so what 1596 01:30:44,600 --> 01:30:47,599 Speaker 1: are you gonna do? Like and deprived yourself. And then 1597 01:30:47,640 --> 01:30:49,040 Speaker 1: I did say that, and I was like, yeah, but 1598 01:30:49,120 --> 01:30:51,599 Speaker 1: probably not fifty shades of gray and we all agreed. 1599 01:30:52,000 --> 01:30:55,160 Speaker 1: But you know what, there's something to that, like you 1600 01:30:55,320 --> 01:30:59,639 Speaker 1: gotta watch one of that something getting burned in, Oh, 1601 01:31:00,760 --> 01:31:04,240 Speaker 1: burned in. That's what I'm saying. There's nothing as bonding 1602 01:31:04,479 --> 01:31:07,360 Speaker 1: as a crazy New York City movie theater moment. Like 1603 01:31:08,160 --> 01:31:11,200 Speaker 1: those moments, especially like at a certain time pod but 1604 01:31:11,320 --> 01:31:14,200 Speaker 1: like the person throwing up a Titanic was one where 1605 01:31:14,280 --> 01:31:16,519 Speaker 1: just everyone was like we have to survive, like we 1606 01:31:17,000 --> 01:31:20,560 Speaker 1: like the iceberg, we must survive this together. There was 1607 01:31:21,080 --> 01:31:22,639 Speaker 1: I remember when I went to go see the Sex 1608 01:31:22,680 --> 01:31:26,080 Speaker 1: in the City movie, like the first day it came out, 1609 01:31:26,720 --> 01:31:29,280 Speaker 1: which I want to say was maybe a Valentine's Day situation. 1610 01:31:29,560 --> 01:31:34,360 Speaker 1: I don't remember, but that I mean just basic, basic, 1611 01:31:34,479 --> 01:31:40,120 Speaker 1: basic path theater of Ladies. There is the moment like 1612 01:31:40,280 --> 01:31:43,280 Speaker 1: everyone's like there were balloons, like it was so basic. 1613 01:31:43,560 --> 01:31:45,160 Speaker 1: But we were all like, we're basic and we're seeing this. 1614 01:31:45,280 --> 01:31:48,040 Speaker 1: We love it and whatever, it's a great movie. Sorry, 1615 01:31:48,120 --> 01:31:52,479 Speaker 1: but the first one moment, the first one, the first No, 1616 01:31:52,680 --> 01:31:57,240 Speaker 1: not the one we're they're in dubaiing like offending everyone. 1617 01:31:58,760 --> 01:32:01,720 Speaker 1: We're talking first. But but there was that moment. There 1618 01:32:01,800 --> 01:32:06,040 Speaker 1: was a moment when Carrie reveals the closet that big 1619 01:32:06,600 --> 01:32:09,559 Speaker 1: like built for her in the department, and the entire 1620 01:32:09,720 --> 01:32:13,920 Speaker 1: audience of New York City ladies goes. There was like 1621 01:32:14,360 --> 01:32:17,439 Speaker 1: an audible theater wide. Guy, it's a great shot. And 1622 01:32:17,479 --> 01:32:26,519 Speaker 1: then what say, yeah, hello, lover, I live here. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, 1623 01:32:27,080 --> 01:32:29,800 Speaker 1: hello lover. That's what it is. Yeah, everyone's living in 1624 01:32:29,920 --> 01:32:35,639 Speaker 1: like a three roommate situation of Murray Hill. I literally 1625 01:32:35,840 --> 01:32:40,559 Speaker 1: was talking. I mean, that's budget and that is important. Budgets. 1626 01:32:40,840 --> 01:32:44,280 Speaker 1: Get those budgets out everyone. Okay, guys need an escape. 1627 01:32:54,520 --> 01:32:57,040 Speaker 1: I think it may be. I don't think so, honey, 1628 01:32:57,360 --> 01:32:59,519 Speaker 1: because we've sort of arrived at that point where we're 1629 01:32:59,600 --> 01:33:04,280 Speaker 1: so full that we have to unleash this energy. I 1630 01:33:04,479 --> 01:33:08,880 Speaker 1: certainly have had um a certain culture dictate my life 1631 01:33:09,439 --> 01:33:11,080 Speaker 1: over the past several days. So I have and I 1632 01:33:11,120 --> 01:33:13,960 Speaker 1: don't think so honey, based in that this is Matt Rogers. 1633 01:33:14,040 --> 01:33:15,920 Speaker 1: I don't think so many as time starts now, I 1634 01:33:15,960 --> 01:33:18,920 Speaker 1: don't think so honey, antibiotic culture. Why do they do 1635 01:33:19,240 --> 01:33:23,040 Speaker 1: what they do to our butt holes? It's fucking insane. 1636 01:33:23,400 --> 01:33:27,280 Speaker 1: I've been on the antibiotic augmented for several days. What 1637 01:33:27,520 --> 01:33:32,920 Speaker 1: has done to my digestive system is unforgivable, unfathomable, and unsavory. 1638 01:33:33,560 --> 01:33:39,519 Speaker 1: I find myself bereft. Nothing is solid. I don't understand why. 1639 01:33:39,640 --> 01:33:42,479 Speaker 1: And I didn't do anything to even deserve my ear infection. 1640 01:33:42,600 --> 01:33:44,679 Speaker 1: That's another thing. I don't think, so honey, that I've 1641 01:33:44,840 --> 01:33:48,680 Speaker 1: fallen this type of malady because I've neverly been in 1642 01:33:48,760 --> 01:33:52,040 Speaker 1: a pool of Lake Upond, I've not been near anything. 1643 01:33:52,120 --> 01:33:55,599 Speaker 1: I shower so responsibly. God, God, you're up there literally 1644 01:33:55,680 --> 01:33:58,679 Speaker 1: watching me shower. You know you know I'm not asking 1645 01:33:58,800 --> 01:34:01,479 Speaker 1: for this. I keep my ear as clean as a whistle. 1646 01:34:01,880 --> 01:34:03,720 Speaker 1: I don't think, so honey that as a result of 1647 01:34:03,880 --> 01:34:08,680 Speaker 1: just the fates, I have to be on these antibiotics, poked, prodded, strapped. 1648 01:34:09,560 --> 01:34:12,360 Speaker 1: Please five seconds, God, if you're up there and you 1649 01:34:12,439 --> 01:34:14,320 Speaker 1: remember I didn't do anything deserve this, have a mercy 1650 01:34:14,400 --> 01:34:17,400 Speaker 1: on my butthole. I'm shifting water and that's one minute. 1651 01:34:17,479 --> 01:34:22,640 Speaker 1: Oh my god, oh my god. Augment um and it's 1652 01:34:22,680 --> 01:34:24,600 Speaker 1: such a it doesn't it sounds like a villain in 1653 01:34:24,640 --> 01:34:29,200 Speaker 1: a film, like we're that we're teaming up to fight augmentum. 1654 01:34:34,360 --> 01:34:37,400 Speaker 1: Drink just to shell pass. Maybe that's you know, it 1655 01:34:37,680 --> 01:34:40,000 Speaker 1: is all about water, and it is all about also, 1656 01:34:40,080 --> 01:34:42,120 Speaker 1: which you don't take us seriously at the time, but 1657 01:34:42,200 --> 01:34:46,400 Speaker 1: really people should taking the antibiotics with food food. You 1658 01:34:46,640 --> 01:34:48,880 Speaker 1: must do this, and it's I don't think I realized 1659 01:34:48,920 --> 01:34:52,120 Speaker 1: again hashtag adult thing. Sorry now, I don't think I 1660 01:34:52,200 --> 01:34:55,559 Speaker 1: realized antibiotics like were what they were. Like when you're 1661 01:34:55,560 --> 01:34:57,120 Speaker 1: a kid and you get sick, they just put you 1662 01:34:57,200 --> 01:35:00,280 Speaker 1: on antibiotics and then you live your life and your dream. 1663 01:35:00,960 --> 01:35:03,000 Speaker 1: But I remember when I was in my twenties, I 1664 01:35:03,280 --> 01:35:06,280 Speaker 1: was on put on like two different antibiotics too close together, 1665 01:35:06,680 --> 01:35:09,080 Speaker 1: and my digestive system wasn't the same for like six 1666 01:35:09,200 --> 01:35:12,920 Speaker 1: or seven months. My god, I thought I was gluten intolerant, 1667 01:35:13,360 --> 01:35:16,360 Speaker 1: so like you got it. I'm not even kidding. They 1668 01:35:16,439 --> 01:35:19,040 Speaker 1: over prescribed me at the at the City m D. 1669 01:35:19,560 --> 01:35:21,920 Speaker 1: And I've done I don't think Sony City m D before, 1670 01:35:22,720 --> 01:35:30,639 Speaker 1: but um went, I absolutely did, doctor, because he loves 1671 01:35:30,640 --> 01:35:33,160 Speaker 1: to give you a shot here. But and I got 1672 01:35:33,240 --> 01:35:35,639 Speaker 1: a shot in my butt again today have steroids. I'm 1673 01:35:35,720 --> 01:35:39,439 Speaker 1: telling you, I'm I'm on. Let's say the planet Saturn. 1674 01:35:40,000 --> 01:35:43,599 Speaker 1: I really do mean all right, we're gonna offline about DR. 1675 01:35:44,439 --> 01:35:46,880 Speaker 1: I just want to say DR wanting to just being 1676 01:35:46,960 --> 01:35:52,559 Speaker 1: so like shot happy is concerning I if it's there 1677 01:35:52,640 --> 01:35:56,280 Speaker 1: for you, He's there for you when you need him. Okay, great, great, great? 1678 01:35:56,600 --> 01:35:59,120 Speaker 1: Only take the shot when like you have like chlamydiar 1679 01:35:59,240 --> 01:36:03,439 Speaker 1: or something. You have a girl when I'm telling you, yeah, 1680 01:36:03,520 --> 01:36:06,080 Speaker 1: he kind of is more like like you know, Halloween 1681 01:36:06,200 --> 01:36:08,720 Speaker 1: how everyone gets candy. He's more like that. She's more 1682 01:36:08,800 --> 01:36:13,880 Speaker 1: like that. He's more Halloween. Great Halloween doctor. He's a 1683 01:36:13,920 --> 01:36:20,639 Speaker 1: Halloween style doctor. It's like a Halloween doctor. Oh okay, 1684 01:36:20,680 --> 01:36:24,639 Speaker 1: well pray for me everyone, everyone. This is Bowen Yang's 1685 01:36:24,640 --> 01:36:26,760 Speaker 1: I don't think so, honey, Now do you have something 1686 01:36:26,960 --> 01:36:31,200 Speaker 1: you feel very good? I love that. I love that. Okay, 1687 01:36:31,280 --> 01:36:35,240 Speaker 1: so it's I didn't want to say yet I am 1688 01:36:35,280 --> 01:36:37,360 Speaker 1: avoid it's when now whenever I say I love that 1689 01:36:37,400 --> 01:36:39,280 Speaker 1: for you, I feel like I'm like dropping some promo. 1690 01:36:39,439 --> 01:36:42,439 Speaker 1: But it really is vernacular. It's vernacular. That's why it's 1691 01:36:42,439 --> 01:36:46,760 Speaker 1: called that. All right, great, this is I don't think so, honey. 1692 01:36:46,760 --> 01:36:49,080 Speaker 1: Your time starts now. I don't think so, honey. Gift 1693 01:36:49,160 --> 01:36:53,760 Speaker 1: shops call them what they are, candles stores. Okay, there's 1694 01:36:53,840 --> 01:36:59,360 Speaker 1: nothing but candles and stationary. The options are limited. I 1695 01:36:59,439 --> 01:37:02,120 Speaker 1: went to separate ones on my way to work to 1696 01:37:02,240 --> 01:37:05,960 Speaker 1: buy a gift for someone. The offerings were the same. 1697 01:37:06,479 --> 01:37:11,799 Speaker 1: It's either candles, cards, maybe like a quote unquote hard puzzle, 1698 01:37:12,080 --> 01:37:14,439 Speaker 1: something that's marketed as a hard puzzle because it's like 1699 01:37:15,000 --> 01:37:18,160 Speaker 1: a monochrome puzzle where you can't really put it together 1700 01:37:18,280 --> 01:37:20,880 Speaker 1: so easily because the colors are all the same. I 1701 01:37:21,160 --> 01:37:23,479 Speaker 1: don't we have to step it up. We're in a 1702 01:37:23,600 --> 01:37:26,560 Speaker 1: post Christmas candle as the nel sketch world where like 1703 01:37:27,439 --> 01:37:30,519 Speaker 1: buying a candle for someone who's like, not okay anymore, 1704 01:37:31,080 --> 01:37:35,800 Speaker 1: I disagree with that. I love candles, um, I don't 1705 01:37:35,840 --> 01:37:37,840 Speaker 1: like that there's this stigma on them now. But I 1706 01:37:37,960 --> 01:37:41,439 Speaker 1: also don't like, on on an equal note, how gift 1707 01:37:41,479 --> 01:37:45,519 Speaker 1: shops only sell saying which is candles. I don't care 1708 01:37:45,560 --> 01:37:49,040 Speaker 1: that it's different companies. I just need something more. You 1709 01:37:49,120 --> 01:37:50,920 Speaker 1: need to do more, and that's what minute. I will 1710 01:37:50,960 --> 01:37:55,720 Speaker 1: also submit wrapping paper, which is interesting because at a 1711 01:37:55,800 --> 01:37:57,960 Speaker 1: place that sells wrapping paper, you think there'd be more 1712 01:37:58,000 --> 01:38:01,639 Speaker 1: options of gifts of gifts, but the options you're limited. 1713 01:38:01,720 --> 01:38:05,320 Speaker 1: As my sister in my heart said, can I also, 1714 01:38:05,439 --> 01:38:07,120 Speaker 1: I mean, I just want to check on I mean 1715 01:38:07,600 --> 01:38:09,880 Speaker 1: my own thing. But when you open a tube of 1716 01:38:09,960 --> 01:38:13,840 Speaker 1: wrapping paper and it's it's must it's like multiple individual 1717 01:38:13,960 --> 01:38:15,720 Speaker 1: sheets and not one long tube, and like, what are 1718 01:38:15,760 --> 01:38:20,240 Speaker 1: we playing at? What are you assuming the size? And 1719 01:38:21,840 --> 01:38:26,800 Speaker 1: it's why is this like stiffer, harder paper? Like am 1720 01:38:26,840 --> 01:38:31,639 Speaker 1: I the Queen of England here? Like what let's talk 1721 01:38:31,640 --> 01:38:34,479 Speaker 1: about this right now? When it looks like it's a 1722 01:38:34,520 --> 01:38:39,200 Speaker 1: big tube and you find out it's mostly tube, Oh, 1723 01:38:39,840 --> 01:38:43,719 Speaker 1: you're playing with me. You're playing with me. And that's gaslighting. Yeah, 1724 01:38:44,000 --> 01:38:46,320 Speaker 1: that's gas gas lighting. And I'll say it even lower 1725 01:38:46,360 --> 01:38:50,040 Speaker 1: and in a whisper, that's gaslighting. And so that and 1726 01:38:50,200 --> 01:38:52,519 Speaker 1: now now we have to like and the thing is 1727 01:38:52,600 --> 01:38:55,920 Speaker 1: too about about the stigma on candles. There's nothing wrong 1728 01:38:55,920 --> 01:38:58,880 Speaker 1: with candles. There's nothing wrong with candles. They bring joy 1729 01:38:59,160 --> 01:39:03,320 Speaker 1: to every one. You can never have enough simple pleasure, 1730 01:39:03,600 --> 01:39:07,439 Speaker 1: a little self care, and everyone in the world has candles, 1731 01:39:07,720 --> 01:39:11,240 Speaker 1: and it's universal. It brings you together, it gets you 1732 01:39:11,439 --> 01:39:15,840 Speaker 1: together from the smell and the area that it brings. 1733 01:39:16,439 --> 01:39:20,639 Speaker 1: And we're post we're post irony with candles. Sorry, thank 1734 01:39:20,680 --> 01:39:23,120 Speaker 1: you so much, thank you, because it is this like 1735 01:39:23,280 --> 01:39:26,280 Speaker 1: it You're so right, Matt. It's it's it's like every 1736 01:39:26,360 --> 01:39:28,760 Speaker 1: cal there's like a carbon and meat dish in every 1737 01:39:28,800 --> 01:39:32,360 Speaker 1: culture there is. There is oil and wax and a 1738 01:39:32,560 --> 01:39:36,000 Speaker 1: flame in every single culture in the world. That is 1739 01:39:36,040 --> 01:39:41,800 Speaker 1: a rule of culture. A number of number there and 1740 01:39:44,920 --> 01:39:53,120 Speaker 1: and every culture around the world, around the world. Guys. Also, 1741 01:39:53,920 --> 01:39:56,320 Speaker 1: I will come forth the rap gift that I gave 1742 01:39:56,400 --> 01:39:58,960 Speaker 1: to the lovely p A s and people on I 1743 01:39:59,040 --> 01:40:03,400 Speaker 1: love for you ndles each and everyone, and each one 1744 01:40:03,560 --> 01:40:06,800 Speaker 1: was received not only with gratitude, but also also with 1745 01:40:06,880 --> 01:40:11,680 Speaker 1: a conversation, because the thing about candles is they all 1746 01:40:11,720 --> 01:40:14,120 Speaker 1: have a scent, and so it's not just talking about 1747 01:40:14,160 --> 01:40:16,720 Speaker 1: the candle. You can also then engage about how much 1748 01:40:16,840 --> 01:40:19,880 Speaker 1: you love that scent. Here's ones that people always respond 1749 01:40:19,960 --> 01:40:26,759 Speaker 1: to cedar, yes, mimosa, oh my god. And of course 1750 01:40:27,200 --> 01:40:36,280 Speaker 1: forest fire. Of course, a diptyq dosan um is always 1751 01:40:36,320 --> 01:40:39,240 Speaker 1: good too. I mean, I love to give people candles 1752 01:40:39,280 --> 01:40:43,080 Speaker 1: because I hate to them to buy them. They should 1753 01:40:43,120 --> 01:40:45,560 Speaker 1: only come as gifts. I mean, I'm sorry. I know 1754 01:40:45,600 --> 01:40:47,160 Speaker 1: we've been talking for five hours. I'm not going to 1755 01:40:47,360 --> 01:40:53,439 Speaker 1: keep rolling, honest. This all right? So here's the deal 1756 01:40:53,560 --> 01:40:55,280 Speaker 1: it Stesse Clins. I don't think so, honey. And this 1757 01:40:55,400 --> 01:40:57,759 Speaker 1: is a moment for you to sort of rail against 1758 01:40:57,800 --> 01:40:59,640 Speaker 1: something in culture verse six seconds as we just have. 1759 01:41:00,040 --> 01:41:01,880 Speaker 1: So are you ready to do so? I mean, I 1760 01:41:02,040 --> 01:41:03,960 Speaker 1: hope I can live up to this guy. Yes, of 1761 01:41:04,080 --> 01:41:06,400 Speaker 1: course you will. Here we go, this is Jesse Klins. 1762 01:41:06,400 --> 01:41:09,600 Speaker 1: I don't think so, honey. Your time starts now. I 1763 01:41:09,680 --> 01:41:13,200 Speaker 1: don't think so, honey. Can we talk about Jessica Bill 1764 01:41:13,280 --> 01:41:18,360 Speaker 1: and this trailer for this who joke? Candy she an 1765 01:41:18,439 --> 01:41:21,320 Speaker 1: innocent Jesse Kline watching TV the other night and Jessica 1766 01:41:21,400 --> 01:41:24,280 Speaker 1: Bill is on playing this I guess real life ax 1767 01:41:24,400 --> 01:41:28,960 Speaker 1: murderer killer named Candy Montgomery, her neighbor. And Jessica Bill 1768 01:41:29,120 --> 01:41:33,600 Speaker 1: is in a big curly perm wig and glasses, and 1769 01:41:33,720 --> 01:41:38,559 Speaker 1: I'm like, honey, you still look like Jessica Gobiel. You're 1770 01:41:38,680 --> 01:41:41,640 Speaker 1: still giving me just sitting next to justin timber Lake 1771 01:41:41,720 --> 01:41:43,880 Speaker 1: courtside at the Lakers. I don't care that you have 1772 01:41:44,000 --> 01:41:46,200 Speaker 1: on your perm wig. I don't care that you have 1773 01:41:46,280 --> 01:41:50,599 Speaker 1: your Warby Parker aviator glasses, no hate. I'm sure you're 1774 01:41:50,640 --> 01:41:52,719 Speaker 1: great in it. But this is a role I saw 1775 01:41:52,840 --> 01:41:56,479 Speaker 1: someone in real life with love. I mean, she killed someone. 1776 01:41:56,560 --> 01:41:58,519 Speaker 1: She's a four or five or six at best, you're 1777 01:41:58,560 --> 01:42:02,800 Speaker 1: a t Leave this role to a Juillliard grad who's 1778 01:42:02,800 --> 01:42:06,479 Speaker 1: a four figer? Is this role? Don't a lot of 1779 01:42:06,520 --> 01:42:08,680 Speaker 1: conversation in the culture right now about who can play well. 1780 01:42:08,680 --> 01:42:12,720 Speaker 1: And I still don't believe in tense playing fives one 1781 01:42:17,160 --> 01:42:21,280 Speaker 1: I'm talking about of course, I see her in those 1782 01:42:21,400 --> 01:42:26,000 Speaker 1: classes in that wig, and I'm like, let someone else shine. 1783 01:42:26,439 --> 01:42:37,400 Speaker 1: She killed someone's five six. Only the murderers murders that 1784 01:42:37,560 --> 01:42:41,400 Speaker 1: some of the ugliest people. Jessica Bill, if you want 1785 01:42:41,439 --> 01:42:47,080 Speaker 1: to know, I'm extending my she just have have someone 1786 01:42:47,240 --> 01:42:51,960 Speaker 1: write a screenplay for you where you play an ax 1787 01:42:52,080 --> 01:42:57,240 Speaker 1: murderer who was a ten. You know, I know you 1788 01:42:57,360 --> 01:42:59,639 Speaker 1: want your your Emmy and your award and you want 1789 01:42:59,680 --> 01:43:03,479 Speaker 1: to do real acting, but like, don't don't put on 1790 01:43:03,640 --> 01:43:05,800 Speaker 1: that wig in those glasses. Can be like a woman 1791 01:43:05,880 --> 01:43:10,240 Speaker 1: in Texas who killed someone. Yeah, at least find the 1792 01:43:10,320 --> 01:43:12,599 Speaker 1: hot one, you know what I mean. I never want 1793 01:43:12,600 --> 01:43:14,439 Speaker 1: to judge another woman's appearance. But I looked at the 1794 01:43:14,479 --> 01:43:16,240 Speaker 1: real Candy Mirgomery, and I'm just saying, it's not a 1795 01:43:16,439 --> 01:43:20,200 Speaker 1: Jessica Bill role. She's not she's not unattractive. She's just 1796 01:43:20,479 --> 01:43:25,559 Speaker 1: a regular gal. I do want to look this person up. 1797 01:43:26,560 --> 01:43:31,759 Speaker 1: Montgomery's just a regular gal. Yeah, Oh she's she's pretty. 1798 01:43:32,080 --> 01:43:33,880 Speaker 1: You know who's you know who's good at this? I 1799 01:43:33,960 --> 01:43:36,200 Speaker 1: feel who's good at this is Blake Lively. Like Blake 1800 01:43:36,280 --> 01:43:38,759 Speaker 1: Lively plays all different kinds of people, but she always 1801 01:43:38,880 --> 01:43:44,280 Speaker 1: makes sure they're looking good. I just think Jessica Bill, 1802 01:43:44,400 --> 01:43:48,280 Speaker 1: it's such a specific level of ten just to have. 1803 01:43:48,560 --> 01:43:53,360 Speaker 1: It's like I want to monomy clearly, are we gonna 1804 01:43:53,400 --> 01:43:56,439 Speaker 1: hear kiss me? Playing as you like? Take your gas off? 1805 01:43:57,439 --> 01:44:00,280 Speaker 1: Killed this woman? I am seeing a side by side 1806 01:44:00,479 --> 01:44:03,240 Speaker 1: and it is really funny, like the chasm. Let me 1807 01:44:03,320 --> 01:44:09,600 Speaker 1: look at it, hold on specific pho. Let me just 1808 01:44:09,680 --> 01:44:15,479 Speaker 1: put it's a little bit of a ricky wigs. Okay, 1809 01:44:15,520 --> 01:44:20,280 Speaker 1: wait can you click on that? I just sorry, this 1810 01:44:20,560 --> 01:44:29,040 Speaker 1: is so funny on just really gorgeous, stunning. This is incredible. 1811 01:44:30,360 --> 01:44:37,639 Speaker 1: Oh just won't be so many actors. There's so many 1812 01:44:37,720 --> 01:44:42,080 Speaker 1: And Sarah Paulson playing Linda trip, you know what I mean. 1813 01:44:42,160 --> 01:44:45,240 Speaker 1: It's like, I don't know, probably probably could have found 1814 01:44:45,640 --> 01:44:49,080 Speaker 1: probably could have found a Linda Trip type. We could 1815 01:44:49,120 --> 01:44:54,760 Speaker 1: have found. I mean, you know Shirley infamously doing for 1816 01:44:54,920 --> 01:44:57,000 Speaker 1: that oscar and it worked, but she never she never 1817 01:44:57,080 --> 01:45:00,960 Speaker 1: did it again, which which we were spacked, which we were. 1818 01:45:01,080 --> 01:45:03,320 Speaker 1: It's like ten's only I don't know, she can't do 1819 01:45:03,400 --> 01:45:08,600 Speaker 1: that deal with or deal Honey with deals gonna be 1820 01:45:08,680 --> 01:45:16,280 Speaker 1: alien that so brilliant. Oh my gosh, well listen, what 1821 01:45:16,439 --> 01:45:18,240 Speaker 1: the hell? I feel like one of the best things 1822 01:45:18,320 --> 01:45:21,320 Speaker 1: that anyone could possibly do would be to pick up 1823 01:45:21,360 --> 01:45:24,360 Speaker 1: I'll Show Myself Out, which is out on April, which 1824 01:45:24,520 --> 01:45:29,920 Speaker 1: genuinely made me think and feel and laugh and I 1825 01:45:30,160 --> 01:45:32,519 Speaker 1: just feel like I'm better for reading it, and it 1826 01:45:32,720 --> 01:45:34,160 Speaker 1: is going to make me reach out to my mother 1827 01:45:35,160 --> 01:45:38,800 Speaker 1: um and already has and call your mom's and Jesse, 1828 01:45:39,120 --> 01:45:43,880 Speaker 1: You're like, literally the best, the best. I cannot tell 1829 01:45:43,920 --> 01:45:46,240 Speaker 1: you how grateful and honor truly I am to be 1830 01:45:46,360 --> 01:45:55,320 Speaker 1: on this and I'm going to watch Titanic tonight and yeah, well, 1831 01:45:55,320 --> 01:46:00,320 Speaker 1: if we can turn out like you guys, think of 1832 01:46:00,360 --> 01:46:02,760 Speaker 1: the best, Thank you for coming on. I love that 1833 01:46:02,840 --> 01:46:05,439 Speaker 1: for you is streaming on April nine. Then you better 1834 01:46:05,520 --> 01:46:08,479 Speaker 1: remember that everyone, um, and yeah, what do you say 1835 01:46:08,479 --> 01:46:11,839 Speaker 1: about And every episode I think we and every episode 1836 01:46:11,880 --> 01:46:31,519 Speaker 1: with the song time in the You's true, You're now, 1837 01:46:34,000 --> 01:46:42,120 Speaker 1: you haven't the girl. We have to go, Where to go? Bye,