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Speaker 1: Hello everyone, and welcome to the program that gets you

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Speaker 1: inside NRG Stadium. It's Texans All Access. Mark Vandermaer and

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Speaker 1: John Harris with you tonight, and in the program tonight,

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Speaker 1: you're gonna hear from a number of Texans players, including,

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Speaker 1: but not limited to, Charlie Heck and Brandon Done. They'll

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Speaker 1: be with us later, but right now, Johnny, let's do this.

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Speaker 1: A lot of stuff to catch up on as it's

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Speaker 1: game week, you know, that's what I love about the

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Speaker 1: first preseason game hitting. We're in game week every week

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Speaker 1: and we're gonna have to buy Labor Day weekend. But

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Speaker 1: we'll get over that because they'll have a ton of

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Speaker 1: college football and the Texas kickoff to sink your teeth

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Speaker 1: in two with the Coogs and the Red Raiders going

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Speaker 1: at it on September fourth. Tickets available Ticketmaster, so check

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Speaker 1: that out. But are you ready, my friend? I got

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Speaker 1: some things to throw out you, some gut reaction stuff.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, we got a lot of stuff to go through. Yes,

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Speaker 1: I wanted to begin here because after seeing the Texans

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Speaker 1: play on Saturday and all the stuff we talked about

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Speaker 1: all offseason and all during our training camp shows, I

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Speaker 1: think that a running back picture, and by the way,

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Speaker 1: with Don Trell Hilliard no longer part of the team,

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Speaker 1: the running back picture is as clear as mud. It

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Speaker 1: is still hard for me to really decipher how they're

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Speaker 1: gonna do it. I know you have the big names.

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Speaker 1: You have Ingram, you have Lindsay, I get it. Lindsay

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Speaker 1: was the starter, if you will. On Saturday Ingram didn't play.

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Speaker 1: But Johnny, the performance of Darius Jackson, the performance of

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Speaker 1: Scottie Phillips. Knowing you have Rex Burkhead on the team

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Speaker 1: and he has yet to play, what do you make

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Speaker 1: what's your gut reaction on the running back picture of

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Speaker 1: the Houston Texans. When you started talking the you hit

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Speaker 1: right on that phrase. I was, I literally think the

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Speaker 1: same thing, clear as mud, because I don't know that

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Speaker 1: there's been much clarity. On Saturday night, Mark Ingram and

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Speaker 1: Rex Burkhead didn't play. You had Philip Lindsay, who I

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Speaker 1: think carried it every time. There was not a path

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Speaker 1: as on that first drive minus David Johnson getting up

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Speaker 1: was Scottie Phillips, Darius Jackson and Buddy Howe and Buddy

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Speaker 1: has been on this team, I don't want to say

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Speaker 1: in large part because of special teams, but in large

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Speaker 1: part because he is good on special teams. When he

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Speaker 1: finally got an opportunity to show what he could do

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Speaker 1: starting in that Bears game last year, you're like, hey,

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Speaker 1: you know, Buddy's got a little something here. But in

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Speaker 1: this group of running backs, it's a little different because

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Speaker 1: as good as Buddy has been, and he had a

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Speaker 1: couple of nice runs the other night against the Packers,

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Speaker 1: it feels like he's behind the crew ahead of him.

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Speaker 1: So I don't know how you really kind of sift through.

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Speaker 1: But there are two preseason games left for everybody, right, Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: there will be injuries throughout the league. Whether they happened, well, no,

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Speaker 1: I'm not. I mean, I don't want it to happen

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Speaker 1: for us. Oh I see, I see where you're going.

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Speaker 1: Go ahead, But there maybe injuries elsewhere where a team goes, hey, man,

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Speaker 1: who's got what I'm looking for? Who's got something I'm

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Speaker 1: looking for? And I think that's what kind of the

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Speaker 1: Giants felt the other day in making a deal with

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Speaker 1: the Texans with Nick Serrio for Keion crossing Key on

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Speaker 1: going to the Giants, and Giants really needed to need

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Speaker 1: some defensive backhilp and they needed some special teams help.

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Speaker 1: And the Texans through the offseason if you look at

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Speaker 1: this the signings. Although I think, you know, a guy

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Speaker 1: like Camu Grugia Hill has been fantastic on defense, He's

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Speaker 1: really good on special teams. Joe Thomas, as they call him,

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Speaker 1: uncle old Man Joe. It was interesting to listen to

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Speaker 1: talking about you know, Joe Thomas. There are a lot

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Speaker 1: their background, so you sort of had, let's say, a surplus,

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Speaker 1: but you had more guys so you could say, okay,

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Speaker 1: We thought Vernon Hargrave, same thing. So okay, we can

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Speaker 1: for that. I think the same thing with the running backs. Look,

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Speaker 1: Scottie Phillips, you're not gonna do that. But there's gonna

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Speaker 1: Kean was probably would have been in line to make

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Speaker 1: And I think that's the way to kind of look

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Speaker 1: gonna be some injuries that that happened and occur, and

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Speaker 1: there's gonna be a team that, you know, the Rams

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Speaker 1: If something else happens to one of their running backs,

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Speaker 1: we need somebody, Yeah, we need we need a back,

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Speaker 1: and hey, can we make a deal. Can we can

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Speaker 1: we do a deal, and I don't know which which

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Speaker 1: got them. So I'm not gonna say fleece him. We'll

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Speaker 1: make a deal. And you know that happened to Carry

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Speaker 1: had a couple injuries. They called up and said, hey,

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Speaker 1: we'll give you a draft pick for a guy who's undrafted.

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Speaker 1: You take it all day, every day. So that, to

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Speaker 1: me is the way I look at the running back position. Now,

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Speaker 1: once it all kind of works itself out, I'm still

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Speaker 1: I'm still the mindset four running backs are gonna make

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Speaker 1: it because if you if Rex Burkehead is one of them,

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Speaker 1: he can play special teams. If Buddy Howe is one

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Speaker 1: play special teams. I'm not saying those guys are gonna

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Speaker 1: make it, but I'm just saying those guys provide, as

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Speaker 1: extra because they play on special teams, so you can

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Speaker 1: feel okay with all right, maybe you're not getting running

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Speaker 1: the way I look at it is, you've got some

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Speaker 1: I mean, you remember last time we went to Dallas

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Speaker 1: it really in it? Now, what did it do it for?

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Speaker 1: what's gonna happen for some team. They're gonna have to

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Speaker 1: you know, there's gonna be an injury and they're gonna

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Speaker 1: look up and go, we need a back. Who's got

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Speaker 1: Oh hey, the Texans have got a few backs. Let's

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Speaker 1: somebody might trade for one of their backs because you

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Speaker 1: do have a surplus here. There's no doubt you can't

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Speaker 1: keep everybody, and they all seem to be doing pretty well.

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Speaker 1: I called Buddy how mister August, and I didn't mean

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Speaker 1: it as an insult, but he gets his carries in

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Speaker 1: the preseason, the bulk of them, and man, when he's

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Speaker 1: you know, just physical, big, just knocking people over. Paying

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Speaker 1: see how that goes. It's gonna be an ongoing subject.

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Speaker 1: You brought up the key on trade, and you also

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Speaker 1: brought up John Reid, and maybe one has something to

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Speaker 1: that factored into the decision. All right, we can go

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Speaker 1: say the keyan crossing trade as a shocker and Sports

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Speaker 1: depth in the defensive backfield and guys who play special

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Speaker 1: teams that can help them out no doubt. And look,

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Speaker 1: Keia was traded for a sixth or seventh back in

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Speaker 1: twenty nineteen. Yea, he gave them two excellent years as

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Speaker 1: He was just you're you're right. He was such a

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Speaker 1: him for? Then? Well, look, this is a it's a business.

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Speaker 1: It's a business as supply and demand, and the Giants

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Speaker 1: And I think you're right, John Reid making a couple

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Speaker 1: that I think that helped. I think Terrence Mitchell coming

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Speaker 1: But but also seeing Tremont Smith the other night and

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Speaker 1: seeing him in game action, I think and I've said

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Speaker 1: this before, I covered Trumon back when he was at

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Speaker 1: Central Arkansas. I've always been a fan of his because

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Speaker 1: Judge called us and is looking for somebody, and hey,

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Speaker 1: you make the deal and uh, and you move on.

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Speaker 1: And that's the other thing, Mark You've got, you know what,

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Speaker 1: you know, eighty five guys in the roster now, so

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Speaker 1: there are guys that you might be able to, you know,

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Speaker 1: spin into something that we talked about this a little

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Speaker 1: bit um. You know what you can do with a guy.

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Speaker 1: You might just instead of just you know, cutting a

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Speaker 1: horrible nests of what's going on in the Dallas sideline

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Speaker 1: and shots of the booth with Jerry and Steven and

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Speaker 1: they're freaking out and I can't wait, Johnny, it's gonna

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Speaker 1: be great. Have a great night, my friend. Absolutely, Thanks

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Speaker 1: mart All right, coming up, Brandon done. You'll hear from him,

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Speaker 1: Charlie Heck and others as we continue here on Texans

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Speaker 1: All Access. It's Texans Radio, Mark vander Meer keeping your

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Speaker 1: company Tuesday evening. Hey, when we get to the regular season,

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Speaker 1: this will be the time slot for the Texans Players Show,

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Speaker 1: presented by fud Rutgers. Now, we're not gonna be out

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Speaker 1: of food Rutgers this year. We love fud Ruckers, but

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Speaker 1: it's just not a good year for us to be

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Speaker 1: out with the crowd and everybody just hugging and kissing. Okay,

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Speaker 1: we don't really hugging kiss at the food Ruckers Texas

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Speaker 1: Players Show, but you know it's kind of close quarters.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna spread out a little bit. Do the show

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Speaker 1: from the Studio presented by fud Ruckers. Lots of giveaways.

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Speaker 1: Stay tuned for more information. All your favorite Texans players

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Speaker 1: and you get to hear from them right here. And

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Speaker 1: as I say that, you're thinking favorite Texans players, I

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Speaker 1: do have some, but I'm just getting to know these guys. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: we are too, and they're wonderful to get to know.

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Speaker 1: Guys like in his second year, Charlie Heck played a

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Speaker 1: bunch on Saturday Night at Right Tackle. Drew Doherty caught

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Speaker 1: up with him for a drews dozen Charlie heck, offensive

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Speaker 1: lineman for the Houston Texans, joining me now here for

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Speaker 1: a Drews dozen. If you're in goal as a soccer

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Speaker 1: goalkeeper and Justin Reed is coming at you with the

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Speaker 1: ball on a breakaway, how are you stopping a shot?

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Speaker 1: I'm getting as big as I possibly can. You know,

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Speaker 1: I'm honestly taking a guess at which corner he's going.

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Speaker 1: He was pretty good as a soccer player. You were

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Speaker 1: a soccer player until about in middleway of high school?

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Speaker 1: Right yeah. I played soccer all the way up until

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Speaker 1: my sophomore year of high school. Actually won a state

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Speaker 1: championship in Florida, So that was that was kind of

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Speaker 1: my first passion until I was allowed to really start

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Speaker 1: getting into football. And it's one of the things probably

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Speaker 1: that helped you out with some of your footwork as

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Speaker 1: an offensive lineman. Right, oh, yeah, absolutely, I think it.

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Speaker 1: I think it was huge for me. I mean, I

465
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Speaker 1: was definitely a little smaller guy back then. Wasn't this

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Speaker 1: big playing soccer. But it definitely helped smaller guy in

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Speaker 1: what terms, because look I'm looking up at you, You're

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Speaker 1: a big guy. How how small were you really then?

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Speaker 1: So I was always tall, so junior or of high school.

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Speaker 1: I was six to seven, but I was one ninety five,

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Speaker 1: so one hundred pounds less than a ham right now,

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Speaker 1: six seven nine, So just a bunch of broomsticks jingle

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Speaker 1: jangling around. Uh huh. Yep, all right, let's talk some

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Speaker 1: football and not talking about broomstick jingle jack. You've had

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Speaker 1: a really good camp, you had a really good end

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Speaker 1: to the season. You learned a lot. I'm guessing sitting

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Speaker 1: and watching last year. But what's different about you? I mean,

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Speaker 1: how come you're being or you've been knock on wood

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Speaker 1: so successful early on? You know, getting into those last

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Speaker 1: games at the end of the year. That was big

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Speaker 1: for me because I was able to kind of build

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Speaker 1: confidence going into the off season because I told myself

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Speaker 1: that I could play in this league. And you know

484
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Speaker 1: that was huge for me. Did I'm just diving into

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Speaker 1: the weight room, getting stronger, getting builder, and carrying that

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Speaker 1: confidence with me in the camp. Yeah. We hear about

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Speaker 1: guys saying, well, I got into the weight room and

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Speaker 1: I did that, But like, what did you really have

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Speaker 1: to improve and get better at in that regard? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: So I'm always because I'm a longer guy, I think

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Speaker 1: I can always add more to lean mass. And when

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Speaker 1: you add lean mass, I mean I just I feel quicker, stronger,

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Speaker 1: not necessarily gaining that much weight, but gaining better way,

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Speaker 1: you know, cutting out some baby fluff, and then you

495
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Speaker 1: just you feel good, you play better. I don't want

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Speaker 1: to use COVID and the pandemic as an excuse, but

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Speaker 1: being able to be in the building, being able to

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Speaker 1: get through and go through a lot of the stuff

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Speaker 1: you've done this year, how much more beneficial has it been?

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Speaker 1: Maybe as opposed to what you went through as a rookie.

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Speaker 1: I was huge. I mean being a rookie last year

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Speaker 1: was like nothing I'd ever experienced. You know, my first

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Speaker 1: time getting out there was the first training camp practice

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Speaker 1: last year. So this offseason I said, I'm gonna take

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Speaker 1: full advantage of it. You know, I was in here

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Speaker 1: as much as I could. Like I said, took full

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Speaker 1: advantage of But it was a new staff coming in,

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Speaker 1: so I wanted to learn the offense and meet the

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Speaker 1: players being here as much as I could. And I'm

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Speaker 1: guessing it was cool getting to know the new offensive

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Speaker 1: line coach in James Camp because he's got some different

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Speaker 1: ideas in different ways of teaching Dudney. Yeah. Absolutely. Camp

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Speaker 1: has been awesome. I mean he's played in this league,

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Speaker 1: he's been a line coach for a long time, and

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Speaker 1: he really gets what we're going throughout here. And it's

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Speaker 1: been interesting to see how he's been working with different

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Speaker 1: players along the way, kind of tweaking different things from them.

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Speaker 1: All Right, let's rank to Charlie's Charlie Heck, Charlie Sheen,

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Speaker 1: Charlie Brown, Charlie and the Chocolate Factory, and call Signed

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Speaker 1: Charlie the lady from Top Gun Going Charlie Heck, call

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Speaker 1: Sign Charlie Brown, Charlie and the Chocolate Factory, Charlie Sheen.

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Speaker 1: So you're a big Top Gun fan. I like Top Gun.

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Speaker 1: So are you're a big volleyball fan? You play shirtless

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Speaker 1: with the guys in the sand all the time? No,

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Speaker 1: I haven't gotten into that too much yet. It's probably good,

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Speaker 1: probably for the better. What was it like having a

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Speaker 1: big brother who was also a really good athlete. He's

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Speaker 1: now a strength and conditioning coach. Was it like having

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Speaker 1: him around? Oh? It was awesome. I mean he was

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Speaker 1: he was who I really looked up to because he

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Speaker 1: he was two years ahead of meet Carolina That's kind

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Speaker 1: of the reason why I wanted to go play at

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Speaker 1: Carolina was to be his teammate. And then when I

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Speaker 1: was with him, we really became closer friends. And then

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Speaker 1: in the last two years he was my strength coach there,

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Speaker 1: so that was pretty special. Did you growing up bicker

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Speaker 1: fight argue like normally my brothers. Do you know? I

538
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Speaker 1: think I nagged him a lot. I don't think I

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Speaker 1: was very successful in any of the fights. He was

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Speaker 1: always a little bit bigger than I was. But now

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Speaker 1: he was my best friend growing up. Perfect meal is

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Speaker 1: I'm big breakfast guy. Pancakes Oh yeah from my hob

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Speaker 1: Oh okay, well, hey, let's end the interview on pancakes

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Speaker 1: because this guy, hopefully you're gonna get a lot of

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Speaker 1: pancakes this year on the field. See what I did there,

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Speaker 1: and Charlie heck, thanks so much for the time. Best

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Speaker 1: of luck this season and be on absolutely thanks so much.

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Speaker 1: There's Drew with Charlie hack Now and the next segment

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Speaker 1: we'll hear from Brandon Donne. Deep City will catch up

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Speaker 1: with him. But here is Deep with the defensive lineman

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Speaker 1: who's been turning heads at camp and throughout the off season.

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Speaker 1: That would be one Jordan Jenkins. So let's get to

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Speaker 1: know Jordan Jenkins a little bit better. It's a deep

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Speaker 1: SciTE one on one percent of mikes finning. My guest today,

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Speaker 1: Jordan Jenkins. We're inside the bubble. Jordan. I know you've

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Speaker 1: been going against the same guys over and over again

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Speaker 1: in camp, but how was it to get some real

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Speaker 1: live game action in the preseason. Oh, I mean it

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Speaker 1: was pretty fun. I'm not gonna lie I had. I

560
00:27:15,680 --> 00:27:17,280
Speaker 1: was juiced up out there. A lot of the guys,

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Speaker 1: like everyone was happy to go at somebody else and honestly,

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Speaker 1: a lot of the guys were hurt last year the

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Speaker 1: season finished early. Like me and a couple of others.

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Speaker 1: We were just happy to be out there having fun

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Speaker 1: on historic field. And you saw it on defense and

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Speaker 1: even off of Everyone was out there chair and running

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Speaker 1: on the field, happy for one another, like the team. Karadie,

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Speaker 1: here's that's us. It's on point, well as far as

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Speaker 1: one on one battles go. Jordan Nakins, so that you're

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Speaker 1: one of the toughest guys that he's had to go

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Speaker 1: against in camp, and you gotta watch out when you're

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Speaker 1: coming at him. You know how have you felt about

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Speaker 1: these battles in camp? How hungry have you been? Because

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Speaker 1: I know you did in last year on an injury.

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Speaker 1: But you know, what's it been like for you to

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Speaker 1: get back out there, and how do you feel? You know,

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Speaker 1: I'm feeling feeling pretty healthy. You know, I'm getting back

578
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Speaker 1: right knocking the rust off still and I just just

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Speaker 1: one guy and I'm gonna bring it airy play and

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Speaker 1: I'm out there competing with everybody else. You know. It's

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Speaker 1: I couldn't remember the right stand, but I'm just out

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Speaker 1: there trying to work. I had something, had something great

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Speaker 1: there and it's really good. It was really good, I

584
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Speaker 1: promise you. It just slipped my mind. The thunder. The

585
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Speaker 1: thundershocked me the defensive lineman. I was watching them warm

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Speaker 1: up a little bit and do some drills. Seems like

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Speaker 1: you guys are having a lot of fun together. You know,

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Speaker 1: what is that like in the room. What's the chemistry like?

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Speaker 1: It's it's such a talented group of guys, and it

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Speaker 1: seems like you guys are all very verstile, with a

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Speaker 1: lot of different experience levels. Honestly, I think it's that

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Speaker 1: in the level of respect that each guy has one

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Speaker 1: another in there like they know, like there's no camped bodies.

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Speaker 1: Like everyone everyone in that in that position room are

595
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Speaker 1: quality guy, good guys, and they know what's a competition

596
00:28:40,720 --> 00:28:42,840
Speaker 1: throughing throughout, and we embrace it, and we embrace one

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Speaker 1: another and we don't let all like the petty robberies

598
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Speaker 1: and anything like that go along. We just compete one another,

599
00:28:47,680 --> 00:28:49,720
Speaker 1: talk a little to trash and just get along with

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Speaker 1: each other afterwards and just keep it, keep it moving.

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Speaker 1: You guys do look like you're having a lot of fun.

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Speaker 1: What about for yourself and Lovey Smith's defense? I mean,

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Speaker 1: how much fun is it to play in this scheme?

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Speaker 1: And and have you ever played in a scheme that

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Speaker 1: similar time? I know you're with the Jets for the

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Speaker 1: rest of your career, but have you been in a

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Speaker 1: scheme like this four? How similar? How different is it

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Speaker 1: to what you've played in the past. This defense, honestly,

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Speaker 1: it has there's a lot more freedoms up front than

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Speaker 1: I've been apart within the past. And I mean it's

611
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Speaker 1: so only like people talk about the whole three four

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Speaker 1: four three thing, but people forget that U. I mean

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Speaker 1: last season when I was with the Jets and season

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Speaker 1: before that, we played more four three than three four anyway.

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Speaker 1: So I mean half the time when they see somebody

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Speaker 1: saying that, they say, oh, he's a three to four guy,

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Speaker 1: he's mine. In the three point stands, oh he's a

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Speaker 1: four three guy. I mean, it's position or interchangeable. But

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Speaker 1: this is like a big attacking style, like get after

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00:29:36,840 --> 00:29:39,200
Speaker 1: it and just pull those two people kind of defense.

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Speaker 1: So what do you bring to this defensive line group?

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Speaker 1: I know you had some pretty impressive stats during your

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Speaker 1: time with the Jets when you were healthy. What do

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Speaker 1: you hope to bring to this group this year? Man?

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00:29:46,840 --> 00:29:48,880
Speaker 1: I just hope I can just bring that same energy

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Speaker 1: back and capitalize on all the opportunities out there and

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Speaker 1: just be as in fact what I can be. All right?

628
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Speaker 1: And then I know You've got a lot of family

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Speaker 1: here in Houston. So have they been able to come

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Speaker 1: out to camp so far? What are their plans for

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Speaker 1: coming out with games? And how much you've been able

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Speaker 1: to see them? I know camp is kind of a

633
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Speaker 1: crazy time, but have been able to see much family

634
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Speaker 1: so far? I actually did. I had to run home

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Speaker 1: and grab some some dress codes I left at the house,

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Speaker 1: and like my parents went out in Richmond, so I

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Speaker 1: spat home after one of the days we got an

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Speaker 1: early eight dinner with them, grabbed my suit, left and

639
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Speaker 1: got on the plane ready to head out. But I mean,

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Speaker 1: it's gonna be gonna be a great dear. You know,

641
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Speaker 1: family's gonna try and come out. I think we've had

642
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Speaker 1: We've got thirty people coming to the first game and

643
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Speaker 1: all my family's gonna try and make it out. And

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Speaker 1: my uncle Malie dressing piece, he passed away last week.

645
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Speaker 1: He was one of my favorite supporters, loving to death

646
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Speaker 1: and he would have been at every single one him

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Speaker 1: if he could. All right, Well, hopefully he's watching from

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Speaker 1: somewhere really nice and you know what, we'll be looking

649
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Speaker 1: for the Jordan Jenkins cheering section at every single game. Jordan,

650
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Speaker 1: pleasure to finally chat with you and best select the

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Speaker 1: rest season. Thank you man, Jordan Jenkins with Deep City.

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Speaker 1: Now Deep's gonna be back in the next segment as

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Speaker 1: she catches up with d J. Dunney Brandon Donne, who

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Speaker 1: will undoubtedly be that fudd Rutgers Texans players show this

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Speaker 1: year and he was miked up today so I can't

656
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Speaker 1: wait to see that video. Also will have Taiwan Taylor

657
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Speaker 1: wide receiver trying to make an impression. I caught up

658
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Speaker 1: with him. That's all coming up here on Texans Radio.

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Speaker 1: It's Texans Radio. And I have a confession to make.

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Speaker 1: I lied. No, I didn't really lie. But it's kind

661
00:31:20,320 --> 00:31:22,240
Speaker 1: of a bait and switch thing because I actually have

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Speaker 1: DEPI who caught up with Charles Amena who not Brandon Dunne. No,

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Speaker 1: I don't get those guys confused at all because DJ

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Speaker 1: Dunny is the DJ at the clubhouse and I caught

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Speaker 1: up with him a week and a half ago myself.

666
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Speaker 1: And you heard that interview here on Texans Radio. But

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Speaker 1: I am curious about Charles the Longhorn, how's it going

668
00:31:39,960 --> 00:31:43,000
Speaker 1: in year three? Because this is a big season for him.

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Speaker 1: It is for everybody, isn't it. But here's Deep City

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Speaker 1: with Charles Amena, who it's a deep plant one one

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Speaker 1: precent of Mikes Finity my guest today Year three defensive

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Speaker 1: linemen at Charles Amena, who, first of all, Charles, so

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Speaker 1: many people talk about this new scheme and what it's

674
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Speaker 1: like making the transition, But how about for yourself. I mean,

675
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Speaker 1: you're still a defensive lineman, but how different is it

676
00:32:02,360 --> 00:32:04,600
Speaker 1: for you this time around? I mean, it's obviously to

677
00:32:04,720 --> 00:32:08,000
Speaker 1: a different scheme, different technology, a different way of looking

678
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Speaker 1: at how you play D line in a sense. But

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Speaker 1: for me, I kind of played in the scheme similar

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Speaker 1: this in college, so it's not really too crazy. Just

681
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Speaker 1: where I'm where I'm positioning. That a little different playing

682
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Speaker 1: over the tight ends and tackles in the in the

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Speaker 1: run game and then rushing inside at three tag, which

684
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Speaker 1: I did last year. So it's a little change, but

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Speaker 1: it's good. Um. I like it. Definitely a D line

686
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Speaker 1: friendly scheme that just s heells the guys to go

687
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Speaker 1: get it, go after it. Lovey Smith said that you're

688
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Speaker 1: a guy that he gets asked about a lot, and

689
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Speaker 1: he said that you are one of the guys that

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Speaker 1: he tabs his position flexible players. You move around a

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Speaker 1: lot on the line. What's the skill set that's sort

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Speaker 1: of required to do that and how much do you

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Speaker 1: enjoy being able to move around like that? I think

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Speaker 1: it's just somebody that kind of has a body type

695
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Speaker 1: to be able to handle the beef inside and then

696
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Speaker 1: on the outside, but then also agile and I feel

697
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Speaker 1: like enough to be outside and go against tackles and

698
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Speaker 1: play tight ends, and then also how the pastor's ability

699
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Speaker 1: and skill set to rush tackles our guard. So I

700
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Speaker 1: think it's unique. I'm glad God blessing me to be

701
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Speaker 1: able to do that, and uh, it's just it's fun.

702
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Speaker 1: I like doing it. I enjoy it. The versatility is

703
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Speaker 1: the thing that is a big thing in the league now,

704
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Speaker 1: so I'm glad by the coaches and as they see

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Speaker 1: that I got that kind of skill set. Yeah, we

706
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Speaker 1: like to ask players about matchups and which matchups are

707
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Speaker 1: giving them challenges. Brevin Jordan tight End said that you're

708
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Speaker 1: a guy that's very hard to block out there in practice.

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Speaker 1: So let me ask you who's who's been a challenge

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Speaker 1: for you and camp so far? I think probably laring

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Speaker 1: me and Ty this just as far as rushing on

712
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Speaker 1: the edge, because it's not just me rushing at three technow.

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Speaker 1: I still got to be able to produce on the

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Speaker 1: edge as a five technique, so going against athletic guys

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Speaker 1: like that. Please, Oh, I'm sorry you was getinghid of you.

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Speaker 1: How you doing, Charles? How do you think Charles's been

717
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Speaker 1: doing in camp so far? Denny, since you're here, Well,

718
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Speaker 1: first of all, he's been loafing, not off the field,

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Speaker 1: you know what, He's been highly disrespectful. You know what

720
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Speaker 1: I'm saying to his older, to his older elsman elder.

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Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, He's been loafing. You know

722
00:34:03,840 --> 00:34:06,040
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. I haven't had no snacks nor anything like.

723
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Speaker 1: Even though I'm not rookie, I'm not really sure about that.

724
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Speaker 1: He's not you know what I'm I just really miss him.

725
00:34:12,160 --> 00:34:18,439
Speaker 1: I'm leaving. I'm leaving too. All right, where were we? Okay?

726
00:34:18,520 --> 00:34:21,279
Speaker 1: So tackles have been making you better throughout camp. Let's

727
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Speaker 1: talk about your off season. I love your off season work.

728
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Speaker 1: You're always doing interesting things. I heard that you were

729
00:34:25,920 --> 00:34:28,200
Speaker 1: doing pilates this off season, So how how has that

730
00:34:28,360 --> 00:34:31,200
Speaker 1: helped you and made you better? Just working on the

731
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Speaker 1: like the little muscles that you don't really get to

732
00:34:33,000 --> 00:34:36,520
Speaker 1: when you just doing the standard weightlifting. Um. Definitely working

733
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Speaker 1: on my core because that's something I think I had

734
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Speaker 1: to continue to prove on um stability. Uh, things like that.

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Speaker 1: Just continue to expand my workout regiment um tapping the

736
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Speaker 1: different things than my body so that I can be

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Speaker 1: the best ide that that can be. Do you do

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Speaker 1: anything else this offseason? Because you sort of knew that

739
00:34:52,760 --> 00:34:54,839
Speaker 1: you were going to come into a new scheme with Lovey,

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00:34:54,880 --> 00:34:56,799
Speaker 1: did you anything else to sort of prepare for playing

741
00:34:56,880 --> 00:35:00,600
Speaker 1: a little slightly different position? I mean no, I really could.

742
00:35:01,000 --> 00:35:03,239
Speaker 1: My first few years a kind of did the same thing,

743
00:35:04,000 --> 00:35:05,880
Speaker 1: play all up and down the line, scrimming. So it

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Speaker 1: wasn't nothing that I didn't know I was gonna do U.

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Speaker 1: I n I was gonna play three teken on and

746
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Speaker 1: I was gonna play five, know I was gonna play six.

747
00:35:11,960 --> 00:35:14,600
Speaker 1: I've done all those things before, So just continue to

748
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Speaker 1: sharpen up. The knife for me was my biggest thing,

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00:35:16,840 --> 00:35:19,320
Speaker 1: all right. So on Twitter, I saw that you tweeted

750
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Speaker 1: that you wanted to get your hands on the mad

751
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Speaker 1: In twenty two game because you wanted to hand out els.

752
00:35:23,440 --> 00:35:26,160
Speaker 1: But then you quote tweeted it with crying emojis, So

753
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Speaker 1: I don't know if that just didn't go well for you.

754
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Speaker 1: So I said that I got it because I was

755
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Speaker 1: looking forward. You're happy that, yeah, yeah, sorry, guys. So

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna go ahead and download that today in a

757
00:35:36,320 --> 00:35:38,160
Speaker 1: kind of get an early start on it. Okay, So,

758
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Speaker 1: who's the best Madden player on the team by far? Oh? Okay, Okay,

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Speaker 1: I think we're gonna end on that note. Charles, thanks

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00:35:43,239 --> 00:35:45,400
Speaker 1: so much for the time, No problem, thank you. There's

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00:35:45,480 --> 00:35:47,960
Speaker 1: deep with Charles A. Menna who And I knew that

762
00:35:48,120 --> 00:35:50,160
Speaker 1: Brandon Dunne was on the show tonight. I told you

763
00:35:50,360 --> 00:35:53,120
Speaker 1: he photo bombed or video bombed that interview. It's also

764
00:35:53,200 --> 00:35:55,799
Speaker 1: on video on Houston Texans dot com at the Texans app,

765
00:35:56,000 --> 00:35:59,239
Speaker 1: which you should have. There's no question about that. In fact,

766
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Speaker 1: if you're a season ticket member, it's all mobile ticketing

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Speaker 1: this year and it's on your app called the Houston

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00:36:05,000 --> 00:36:07,200
Speaker 1: Texas Ticket off is log out of Houston Texas dot

769
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Speaker 1: com for more information, and remember tickets are available. First

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00:36:10,120 --> 00:36:13,200
Speaker 1: home game is the only preseason game at home. That's

771
00:36:13,440 --> 00:36:16,759
Speaker 1: August twenty eighth against the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. And then

772
00:36:17,000 --> 00:36:19,960
Speaker 1: you have the opener two weeks later against the Jacksonville

773
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Speaker 1: Jaguars Sunday, September twelfth, high noon. Can't wait, all right,

774
00:36:24,320 --> 00:36:26,960
Speaker 1: Let's get to the Taiwan Taylor wide receiver trying to

775
00:36:26,960 --> 00:36:29,880
Speaker 1: make an impression. He went to Western Kentucky. You know

776
00:36:29,920 --> 00:36:34,399
Speaker 1: what their nickname is, the Hilltoppers. What's a hilltopper? It's

777
00:36:34,440 --> 00:36:37,160
Speaker 1: actually our school's placed on top of a hill. So

778
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Speaker 1: if you look at our at the top of our

779
00:36:38,840 --> 00:36:42,080
Speaker 1: school from a scoutline view looking down, it's literally directly

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Speaker 1: on top of a hill and you can see that.

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00:36:44,080 --> 00:36:46,680
Speaker 1: So I think that's what a hill top name originates from,

782
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Speaker 1: being on top of the hill, and we top the

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Speaker 1: hill off, so I think that's where the whole hilltopper

784
00:36:50,640 --> 00:36:53,200
Speaker 1: comes into play right there. When you were at Louisville

785
00:36:53,360 --> 00:36:55,440
Speaker 1: or lived in Louisville, what made you want to go

786
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Speaker 1: to Western Kentucky? Man, When I went on my visit

787
00:36:58,760 --> 00:37:01,600
Speaker 1: come being from Louisville, I actually didn't know much about

788
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Speaker 1: Western Kentucky. Would it being so close to home? And

789
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Speaker 1: when I took my visit there, great coaches, community was great,

790
00:37:08,040 --> 00:37:10,480
Speaker 1: the environment, and you know, I was just blown away

791
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Speaker 1: being in high school coming there. I actually played my

792
00:37:12,440 --> 00:37:15,360
Speaker 1: state championship game at Western Kentucky, so they kind of

793
00:37:15,400 --> 00:37:18,200
Speaker 1: inspired my This isn't a little bit. And like I said,

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00:37:18,280 --> 00:37:21,360
Speaker 1: the coaches, I had a great visit my officers coordinator

795
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Speaker 1: at the time, Jeff Brown, he came to my house

796
00:37:23,520 --> 00:37:24,920
Speaker 1: and that was great, and I think that's really what

797
00:37:25,040 --> 00:37:27,320
Speaker 1: sealed the deal for me. What's it like being on

798
00:37:27,440 --> 00:37:30,799
Speaker 1: a team where you have some former teammates, Browns tight news.

799
00:37:30,920 --> 00:37:35,400
Speaker 1: What's that like? Man, It's great. The commodities great. Like

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Speaker 1: when I got here, it almost felt like, you know,

801
00:37:37,560 --> 00:37:39,680
Speaker 1: I was at home obviously. You know, it was a

802
00:37:39,760 --> 00:37:41,600
Speaker 1: blessing to be able to come and get to do it,

803
00:37:41,680 --> 00:37:44,400
Speaker 1: get a workout from the Houston and for Nick and

804
00:37:44,480 --> 00:37:46,640
Speaker 1: the coaches to have trust in me, have faith in

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Speaker 1: me to you know, be able to sign me, and

806
00:37:49,680 --> 00:37:51,000
Speaker 1: you know, it just felt like home. You know, the

807
00:37:51,080 --> 00:37:54,160
Speaker 1: transition was smooth. And ever since I got to OTAs

808
00:37:54,160 --> 00:37:56,200
Speaker 1: and up to this point, it's been great. So the

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00:37:56,320 --> 00:37:58,759
Speaker 1: teammates been great to Vets treat me as one. I

810
00:37:58,880 --> 00:38:02,080
Speaker 1: just love it. How is it performing in this particular

811
00:38:02,160 --> 00:38:05,200
Speaker 1: system for you? I like this system a lot. The nuances.

812
00:38:05,400 --> 00:38:07,160
Speaker 1: I think it's kind of similar to you know, to

813
00:38:07,520 --> 00:38:09,840
Speaker 1: the past of different places I've been at. We definitely

814
00:38:09,880 --> 00:38:12,359
Speaker 1: have some moving parts, but you know, it's not too much.

815
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Speaker 1: We want to be able to challenge yourself day in

816
00:38:14,080 --> 00:38:15,960
Speaker 1: and day out to get it down, you know, the

817
00:38:16,120 --> 00:38:17,719
Speaker 1: playbook like the back of your hand. But you know

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Speaker 1: that's our job at the end of the day. We

819
00:38:19,440 --> 00:38:21,239
Speaker 1: got to know the day in and day out. We

820
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Speaker 1: gotta know what we gotta do. You gotta know our

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Speaker 1: assignments for my coaches to be able to you know,

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Speaker 1: trusting me and be able to put me out there

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00:38:28,040 --> 00:38:30,360
Speaker 1: and know what to do. So I love the offense

824
00:38:30,480 --> 00:38:32,319
Speaker 1: right now and I love how we're progressing. What about

825
00:38:32,400 --> 00:38:34,920
Speaker 1: special teams? What's your role like there? Oh? Yeah, especial

826
00:38:34,960 --> 00:38:36,960
Speaker 1: teams is great too. You know, try to be involved.

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Speaker 1: Coach Fred, coach bait. They do a coach Frank, coach Bake.

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Speaker 1: They do a great job with me, trying to get me,

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Speaker 1: keep me involved, trying to get great looks, and you know,

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Speaker 1: I try to make myself available as well. That's what

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Speaker 1: this leads all about. Gotta make yourself available. And I

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Speaker 1: want to show them, you know that they can call

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Speaker 1: on me whenever need be. So, uh, that's great for

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Speaker 1: me too. When you grow up in Louisville, what pro

835
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Speaker 1: team do you root form? When I was growing up

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Speaker 1: back at home, I was actually a coach fan Peyton, Manning,

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Speaker 1: Joseph and died edgend James. Those guys just went to

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Speaker 1: Hall of Fame Marvin Harrison. That was my squad. Being

839
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Speaker 1: so close. I never act actually got to catch, got

840
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Speaker 1: to catch the game. All those guys. You know, I

841
00:39:14,440 --> 00:39:17,279
Speaker 1: watched him growing up. They inspired me that definitely don't

842
00:39:17,280 --> 00:39:19,359
Speaker 1: want to get on the field play football, Dallas Clark

843
00:39:19,560 --> 00:39:22,160
Speaker 1: tight end. He didn't wear no gloves, so I thought

844
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Speaker 1: that was crazy. But that was definitely the home team.

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Speaker 1: So we don't have a home team back at Louisville,

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Speaker 1: so you know, it's kind of hard that, you know,

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Speaker 1: group for somebody, but then being so close. That was

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Speaker 1: my squad and a dyet is from Houston here, so

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Speaker 1: one more for you growing up at Louisville and you're

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Speaker 1: too young. But what is the impression, the feeling, the

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Speaker 1: vibe of Muhammad Ali in the city for a young

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Speaker 1: man like you, man, it's everything. I think he's the

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Speaker 1: pit of me of our city. We talk about Louisville.

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Speaker 1: When you talk about our hometown, that's the first person

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Speaker 1: you think of Muhammad Ali. He embodies everything that we

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Speaker 1: try to be underdog mentality, not going to give up,

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Speaker 1: having that one to having a determination, dedication and commitment,

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Speaker 1: you know, and just to be able to keep going

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Speaker 1: and keep persevering. And I think that's what he's all about.

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Speaker 1: You know, he was selfless, He was a champion. I

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Speaker 1: think that's what makes him a icon in today's society

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Speaker 1: who he's one of the pivotal figures and you know

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Speaker 1: in the world, and people think Muhammad al Leid, that's

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Speaker 1: what they think. He's definitely, like I said, he's definitely

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Speaker 1: a legend in our books. Back at home, all right, Taywan,

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Speaker 1: thanks a lot for joining us, Good luck, appreciate him,

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Speaker 1: My God, thank you. There's Taywan Taylor, super nice guy.

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Speaker 1: Hoping for really good things from him. And that's gonna

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Speaker 1: do it for the show tonight. Great to have you listening.

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Speaker 1: Thank you, Johnny Harris and everybody else. Drew and DEEPI

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Speaker 1: contributing to tonight's show. Jimmy Mudd back in the studio.

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Speaker 1: We'll be back tomorrow at six. Have a great evening

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Speaker 1: and go Texans.