WEBVTT - Short Stuff: Rescuing Mistreated Pets

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<v Speaker 1>Hey, and welcome into the short stuff. I'm Josh and

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<v Speaker 1>there's Chuck and Jerry sitting in for Dave. So this

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<v Speaker 1>is short stuff, that's right.

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<v Speaker 2>This is all about if you go buy a house

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<v Speaker 2>and you see a dog that's being mistreated, whether or

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<v Speaker 2>not it's okay to bust into that yard or house

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<v Speaker 2>and take that dog.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, because of course you would think, well, yeah, there's

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<v Speaker 1>a dog suffering, or a cat suffering, or even a

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<v Speaker 1>pig or something suffering. Of course I should be able

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<v Speaker 1>to go rescue the thing. And the answer is no,

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<v Speaker 1>do not do that. But that doesn't mean you should

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<v Speaker 1>just leave that animal on its own. You should go

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<v Speaker 1>do something about it, and we're going to tell you

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<v Speaker 1>what to do.

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<v Speaker 2>That's right. If you do that, you could get charged

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<v Speaker 2>with trespassing or theft. Of course, all fifty states have

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<v Speaker 2>obviously animal cruelty laws, so you do have some things

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<v Speaker 2>you can do, like well, well, we should talk about

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<v Speaker 2>cars first, because there is a bit of a loophole

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<v Speaker 2>if you see a dog like in a hot car

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<v Speaker 2>in a lot of states, I think thirty one states

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<v Speaker 2>say that's a crime. In fourteen states provide you civil

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<v Speaker 2>immunity for you to just brick that window open and

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<v Speaker 2>get that dog or cat out.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, which is pretty cool. Like if you see some

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<v Speaker 1>sort of animal who's whose life is in danger, can

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<v Speaker 1>suffer from serious injury in a hot or very cold car,

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<v Speaker 1>then you can, like you said, break the window. But

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<v Speaker 1>there are some criteria you have to meet in those

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<v Speaker 1>states where they do offer immunity. You have to believe

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<v Speaker 1>the animal is in immediate danger. Immediate danger, not like wow,

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<v Speaker 1>if that animal stays in there for three more hours,

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<v Speaker 1>it's gonna cook. That's a big one.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you have to try and find the owner, and

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<v Speaker 2>then you know, try the car door to make sure

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<v Speaker 2>it's locked.

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<v Speaker 1>That's a big one, Like you have to determine that

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<v Speaker 1>there's no other way to free the animal, because wouldn't

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<v Speaker 1>you just have egg on your face if you smash

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<v Speaker 1>somebody's windshield in to unlock the door and found the

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<v Speaker 1>door was already unlocked.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, egg and maybe glass, that's right.

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<v Speaker 1>Another one is you want to use the minimum amount

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<v Speaker 1>of force necessary to get in the car, Like you

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<v Speaker 1>don't want to break your way in and then proceed

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<v Speaker 1>to go smash all the rest of the windows in

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<v Speaker 1>just because you know this is your one big chance.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and you can't go running at it going.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, because in cartoon fashion, your baseball bets is gonna

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<v Speaker 1>bounce off of the car's window anyway.

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<v Speaker 2>That's right. And then let's say you do all this

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<v Speaker 2>stuff right, you bust that window open, you got that dog,

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<v Speaker 2>you've got to you know, you gotta call nine one

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<v Speaker 2>one of course in most states, and you should anyway,

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<v Speaker 2>But then you got to stay there and wait with

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<v Speaker 2>that animal until somebody of authority shows up.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, some states you have to call nine one one first,

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<v Speaker 1>Others you have to call after. They're like, just get

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<v Speaker 1>to the business of getting the animal out first, right,

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<v Speaker 1>that's right. Like you said that loophole only exists in

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<v Speaker 1>fourteen states, and at least one of them, Indiana, you're

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<v Speaker 1>still on the hook for half of the damage that

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<v Speaker 1>you caused to the vehicle. Seems unfair. Yeah, But even

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<v Speaker 1>if your state is not one of the fourteen, then

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<v Speaker 1>your city might be. I think. So this is a

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<v Speaker 1>rare short stuff that we got help with from Dave,

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<v Speaker 1>And he said that in Boise can you have a

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<v Speaker 1>legal immunity even though in the state of Idaho you don't.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, So check your local laws. If you feel like

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<v Speaker 2>you want to drive around and look for hot dogs with.

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<v Speaker 1>A brick, right, well, eating a hot dog.

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<v Speaker 2>So again that is just cars. If you see an

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<v Speaker 2>animal at a house that's in danger, you feel like

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<v Speaker 2>it's in danger, called nine one one. If it's an emergency,

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<v Speaker 2>they'll send somebody out. They may route it to animal control.

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<v Speaker 2>The cops can enforce and handle animal cruelty in a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of places, but the ASPCA found and is a

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<v Speaker 2>little old, but in twenty ten, less than twenty percent

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<v Speaker 2>of police receive that kind of training and less than

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<v Speaker 2>half of them are even familiar with those laws. So

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<v Speaker 2>you'll probably get someone from like animal control sent out.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. I looked for an updated study and the best

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<v Speaker 1>I could find was twenty fifteen, and it was supplemental

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<v Speaker 1>more than an update. But the stat that jumped out

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<v Speaker 1>to me is fifty percent of law enforcement officers who

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<v Speaker 1>were polled so that they encounter dog fighting in their

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<v Speaker 1>line of work. So they do need to have better

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<v Speaker 1>training and better awareness of animal cruelty laws. And I

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<v Speaker 1>think something like a good fifty of those same cops

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<v Speaker 1>that were polled said we want more training, more and

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<v Speaker 1>better training to deal with stuff like that.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, should we take a break.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, let's take a break, all right. Definitely should drop

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<v Speaker 1>large hous of each other.

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<v Speaker 2>Sk if you should ask.

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<v Speaker 1>What tough you should know? Okay, So if you see

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<v Speaker 1>an animal that is in distress or you think is

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<v Speaker 1>being neglected or abused or something, but their life isn't

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<v Speaker 1>an immediate danger as far as you can tell, there

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<v Speaker 1>are some other things you can do. I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>if we said if you call nine to one one

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<v Speaker 1>you want to report it as an emergency, and then

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<v Speaker 1>the dispatcher will probably be like, well, tell me a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit about it. And depending on whether it's an

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<v Speaker 1>emergency or not, they might send the cops. They might

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<v Speaker 1>send the animal control or animal shelter people. But no

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<v Speaker 1>matter where you live, your city or county is going

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<v Speaker 1>to have some division or department or agency that's in

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<v Speaker 1>charge of enforcing animal cruelty laws. Right. But it's not

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<v Speaker 1>necessarily the cops. It's not even necessarily a governmental agency.

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<v Speaker 1>In some places, it's a charitable organization who steps up

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<v Speaker 1>and is like, well, we'll handle this if nobody else is.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. I think in thirty four states the Humane Society

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<v Speaker 2>has actual deputized animal control people like deputized by the

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<v Speaker 2>local police that essentially act as the police of this

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<v Speaker 2>kind of thing.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and in California, New Jersey, and Pennsylvania, they're also

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<v Speaker 1>authorized to carry guns. And they're also authorized to shoot

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<v Speaker 1>animal abusers on site. That's not true, but it should

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<v Speaker 1>be true.

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<v Speaker 2>See, you couldn't tell from my whistle whether or not

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<v Speaker 2>I fell for that one. That's my new move.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh it worked because it threw me for a loop.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm also really tired, and I saw Long Legs last night,

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<v Speaker 1>so I'm not quite myself. But we'll see if it

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<v Speaker 1>works again in the future.

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<v Speaker 2>What's Long Legs? I've heard of that? What is that? Dude?

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<v Speaker 1>It's a Perkins new movie. That's your black Coat's Daughter

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<v Speaker 1>and I am the pretty thing who lives in the house.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, which we disagreed very famously on Black Coat's Daughter.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, so this is a lot more movie ish than

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<v Speaker 1>Black Coat's Daughter.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I've heard it's good.

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<v Speaker 1>It's very good, but it also like, seriously, I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>quite right today after having seen that movie. It's worth seeing, though,

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<v Speaker 1>I would say get to theaters too and see it

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<v Speaker 1>in theaters.

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<v Speaker 2>I watched the Brian DePalma classic blowout last night on Criterion.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a good one.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a good one, all right. So that's movie recommendations.

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<v Speaker 2>Back to animals. If you know, if this is kind

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<v Speaker 2>of thing that matters to you, then look up what

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<v Speaker 2>you've got going on in your town, find out who

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<v Speaker 2>the animal control agencies are. Uh, there's bound to be

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<v Speaker 2>a website where you can report something like this if

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<v Speaker 2>you don't want to just straight up call nine to

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<v Speaker 2>one one. Or maybe it's the kind of thing where

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<v Speaker 2>you're like, man, I got a bad feeling, something like

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<v Speaker 2>if you've see a dog on a chain or something

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<v Speaker 2>like that, you know, and it doesn't look like it's

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<v Speaker 2>necessarily dying or suffering, you can still file a complaint

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<v Speaker 2>because you shouldn't keep your dog on a chain in

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<v Speaker 2>the front yard or backyard or an yard or sideyard.

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<v Speaker 2>So fill out a complaint online and they will get

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<v Speaker 2>back to you right like you know they they'll they'll

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<v Speaker 2>do it.

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<v Speaker 1>Those don't get ignored even if they don't have some

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<v Speaker 1>sort of like here, write this in this field, and

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<v Speaker 1>write this in this field. There are some like details

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<v Speaker 1>that you want to include or some steps you want

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<v Speaker 1>to take. The first is you want to be as

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<v Speaker 1>detailed as possible about what you think is going on,

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<v Speaker 1>whether it's abuse or neglect or both or whatever, why

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<v Speaker 1>you think that. Yeah, and also you want to make

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<v Speaker 1>sure you have the right address. You don't want the

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<v Speaker 1>swat team showing up with the wrong address of somebody

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<v Speaker 1>who you think is neglecting an animal.

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<v Speaker 2>That's right, especially in those three states that can shoot

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<v Speaker 2>you inside.

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<v Speaker 1>Sure, Another one is sure. Another one is the dates

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<v Speaker 1>and times where you witness the abuse.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's a good idea kind of just keep a

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<v Speaker 2>little log of what's going on and when it's happening.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and there's a little just life advice. Anytime something

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<v Speaker 1>significant happens, so you're like, this might come back at

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<v Speaker 1>some point, it's good to note the time and date.

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<v Speaker 1>It just legitimizes whatever you're saying.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and you know, a lot of times these things

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<v Speaker 2>can be done anonymously. I mean, you may have to

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<v Speaker 2>submit your name and contact information. You maybe you can

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<v Speaker 2>make an anonymous tip, but they're also not going to

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<v Speaker 2>say like, hey, you're across the street neighbor said blank

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<v Speaker 2>blank blank.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, yeah that guy there, Yeah, the.

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<v Speaker 2>One looking on his curtains lines exactly.

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<v Speaker 1>And then yeah, so you, but you may be called

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<v Speaker 1>to testify as a witness. That's the reason why you

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<v Speaker 1>might want to be included. And then there's a there's

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<v Speaker 1>a good workaround too if you're like I think something's

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<v Speaker 1>going on. I don't suspect that the dog's life is

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<v Speaker 1>an immediate danger, but I just want to know. I

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<v Speaker 1>want to make sure that the dog's okay. Most of

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<v Speaker 1>the time, you can call in what's called a wellness

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<v Speaker 1>check on an animal with the Humane Society. You can

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<v Speaker 1>do the same thing with humans too, but it can

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<v Speaker 1>do it with animals, and the Humane Society will send

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<v Speaker 1>out an officer who knows what they're doing and knows

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<v Speaker 1>what to look for and all the signs and how

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<v Speaker 1>to speak to people and find out if the dog

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<v Speaker 1>is actually being abused or neglected. And then they'll send

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<v Speaker 1>you a ribbon that you can wear around town that

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<v Speaker 1>just says hero.

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<v Speaker 2>Are we at the point where I can tell my

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<v Speaker 2>quick story of when I've done this?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah? Yeah, please.

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<v Speaker 2>So you haven't even heard this one, but quite a

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<v Speaker 2>few years ago we had we got a report. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>we have our finger on the pulse a little bit

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<v Speaker 2>of the local sort of animal rescue people around us,

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<v Speaker 2>which is you know where we live. It's a wonderful

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<v Speaker 2>team that are doing God's work in the neighborhoods that

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<v Speaker 2>surround me, and we know a lot of them. And

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<v Speaker 2>they're all like, that's how we got Charlie is through

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<v Speaker 2>one of these rescues, like trapping her in the woods

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<v Speaker 2>with some wonderful people. And I tell you what, though,

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<v Speaker 2>you blow that whistle and they're like, we are on it, man,

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<v Speaker 2>what do you need? So I got a report through

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<v Speaker 2>this network that there was a dog that had like

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<v Speaker 2>a family that moved and left this dog in the

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<v Speaker 2>backyard and it was emaciated, which is one of the

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<v Speaker 2>most reprehensible things I can think of, is just to

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<v Speaker 2>not even try and rehome your dog, but to just

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<v Speaker 2>say we're leaving the dog here. And it was on

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<v Speaker 2>our route in our neighborhood, on our dog walk, and

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<v Speaker 2>we went by a couple of times, saw this dog

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<v Speaker 2>in the backyard, and came back with some wire cutters

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<v Speaker 2>and cut a big hole in that chain link fence

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<v Speaker 2>and took this dog and found her a great home.

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<v Speaker 2>And I checked in a couple of times over the years,

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<v Speaker 2>and then realized about three or four months ago that

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<v Speaker 2>I hadn't in a long time and checked in with

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<v Speaker 2>this family, and that sweet old dog had just passed

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<v Speaker 2>away a few months earlier and had a great, great

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<v Speaker 2>life with this.

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<v Speaker 1>Fat That's awesome. That dog went on to be Supreme

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<v Speaker 1>Court Justice Ruth Bader Ginsberg.

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<v Speaker 2>I never felt so good about doing something. And you

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<v Speaker 2>can look at my Instagram. I posted a the mom

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<v Speaker 2>of the family sent me a picture and this dog

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<v Speaker 2>is one of those that got a totally gray face

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<v Speaker 2>and head basically, and so I kind of told the

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<v Speaker 2>story and put up a little tribute picture on my

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<v Speaker 2>Instagram of when we got this dog and then the old,

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<v Speaker 2>sweet gray face. So that said Chuck the Podcaster, if

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<v Speaker 2>you want to check it out, I probably won't think

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<v Speaker 2>to pin it, but it's in there.

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<v Speaker 1>Very sweet. Man. I guess that's it, right.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but I also don't advise you to do stuff

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<v Speaker 2>like that. We just acted on instinct.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so yeah, just go back and listen to what

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<v Speaker 1>we said and keep an eye out to help animals

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<v Speaker 1>that are in need of help. Okay, everybody do.

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<v Speaker 2>As Chuck says, not as he did.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, well, of course, I mean short, stuff is out.

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