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Speaker 1: Ridiculous Crime is a production of My Heart Radio Ey

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Speaker 1: Elizabeth Donnon Yes, Zaren Burnett, you know what's ridiculous. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I'll tell you it's ridiculous. There's a name for the

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Speaker 1: wave shaped blob of toothpaste on your toothbrush. Is it?

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Speaker 1: Is it? Um? Let me guess, Philip Rhonda, it's nerdle.

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Speaker 1: Net So that that shape that like swoop you see,

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Speaker 1: it's called a nerdle. Yeah. I guess two of the

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Speaker 1: companies were fighting it out over being able to use

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Speaker 1: the striped a little swoop like awkward fresh and yeah,

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Speaker 1: and so a nerdle the toothpaste, I don't know. It's

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Speaker 1: like a shape that was a don't know, I don't care.

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Speaker 1: That's that's pretty good. And I learned about a nerdle

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Speaker 1: don't know, don't care, nerdle. Well, in that spirit, I've

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Speaker 1: got one for you. You're ready, Yes, How about the

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Speaker 1: story of a symphony violinist who becomes the target of

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Speaker 1: a self described high end art thief who has as

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Speaker 1: his heist partner a tupperware salesman and local barber named

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Speaker 1: Universal Knowledge Allah. What there's a lot going on in

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Speaker 1: that right, did he was a tupperware salesman, well, tupperware

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Speaker 1: consultant technically is what he liked to go by today.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, and it's like me. When you heard the

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Speaker 1: name Universal Knowledge a Law, you were wondering. Yes, he

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Speaker 1: is now get ready for the art crime of the

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Speaker 1: century of Milwaukee, Wisconsin. The story was sent to us,

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Speaker 1: by the way, by a fan of the show, Thomas s.

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Speaker 1: He sent an email to the Ridiculous Crime tipline, and

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Speaker 1: Thomas s suggested that we look into the story of

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Speaker 1: the stolen Lipinski strata as right, and I quote, I

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Speaker 1: have a suggestion for a crime. It's probably one of

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Speaker 1: the more recent ridiculous crimes that has happened in my

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Speaker 1: hometown here Milwaukee. Someone stole a three dred year old

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Speaker 1: strato areas of violin, well more like a violin jacked

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Speaker 1: with a taser. Wow. Thanks for the tip, Thomas says

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Speaker 1: for Milwaukee. Thomas's okay, So Milwaukee barber named Universal Knowledge

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Speaker 1: of Law, self described hig end art thief, stolen strata

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Speaker 1: areus you ready? I'm back? We got a wild one.

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Speaker 1: This is Ridiculous Crime. A podcast about absurd and outrageous capers,

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Speaker 1: heists and cons. It's always murder free and one ridiculous Elizabeth.

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Speaker 1: Did you know Willie Nelson named his guitar after Roy

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Speaker 1: Rogers horse? No, I didn't know that. What's the trigger? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: good one, there we go. Look at you. If you

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Speaker 1: had to guess, how long do you think Willie Nelson

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Speaker 1: has been playing the same guitar? Oh, man, a long time.

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Speaker 1: He's got he's worn holes in the front right, probably

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Speaker 1: hit a couple of people with whatever the years was

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Speaker 1: too close to the stage. Are those holes for smoking

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Speaker 1: out of? Yeah? He was smoke so he strummed the

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Speaker 1: hole in. That was a week week Willie Nelson joke. Anything, Well,

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Speaker 1: we'll let it pass. Low hanging fruit. Well, i'll let

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Speaker 1: you know. Seven decades seven, well the better part of

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Speaker 1: seven decades. He bought it in nineteen sixty nine, drunk

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Speaker 1: at a show, was stumbling around and stepped on his

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Speaker 1: old guitar, crushed it, completely destroyed it. Right, So it

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Speaker 1: was coming called a Baldwin guitar. I'm not sure if

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Speaker 1: you know guitars. It was called a Baldwin so okay.

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Speaker 1: So a couple of his band members tried to sole

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Speaker 1: him after he lost his Baldwin and they took him

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Speaker 1: down to this luthier, a very famous one, Shot Jackson.

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Speaker 1: Now Shot Jackson looked at the guitar and he's like,

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Speaker 1: nah Son, not, I gonna do it for you, Willie.

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Speaker 1: That guitar is busted for good. You're gonna need a

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Speaker 1: new one now, Sean Jackson. He offered him a classical

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Speaker 1: his shot but one of his nylon string really nice classicals. Okay.

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Speaker 1: So Willie thank him for it, and he's like, okay, Shot,

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Speaker 1: get it in shape. I'll come back and pick it

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Speaker 1: He calls up Shot Jackson. He's like, Shot, can you

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Speaker 1: and put them into the Martin? And but when I

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Speaker 1: say guts, I mean like the pickups electronics of the guitar. Now, Willie,

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Speaker 1: he takes his beauty. This is an acoustic guitar. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: so he's putting in pickups inside. There's like, anyway, I

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Speaker 1: number years and yet he's only forty six, exactly clean living.

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Speaker 1: So my point is basically, the musicians love their instruments,

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Speaker 1: a non musician. Now, your brother he's a musician. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: he on his instruments. He wrote the guitar melody and

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Speaker 1: he's very particular about his guitars. He loves them. He's

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Speaker 1: lost some over the years, and more in them is anything. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: do I know about Antonio Stradivarius made violins right, yes? Ding? Yeah, Okay,

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Speaker 1: So do you know that, like like they're the best violins,

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Speaker 1: in his career twelve hundred violence. Right now, they're about

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Speaker 1: all these centuries. But he didn't just make violence. He

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Speaker 1: So strativarius born in the lift to the seventeen thirty

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Speaker 1: and to this day, no one knows what a secret is.

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Speaker 1: They do not know why a strativarious violin is so

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Speaker 1: these trees that come from the Cremona region of Italy,

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Speaker 1: really test that. Yeah, there's also this Bosnian wood that

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Speaker 1: It was Strativarius himself and his lips kiss but not

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Speaker 1: acting his lips. But the idea is that he was able.

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Speaker 1: like himself via his lips to these violins. And he

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Speaker 1: The hard haunting part is like he would see pictures

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Speaker 1: someone in Oklahoma, could you look at for that car?

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Speaker 1: obviously he was famous, so it wasn't quite as bad

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Speaker 1: get the idea. So, these these strata areas violence, they're

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Speaker 1: FBI has tried to solve six different cases of stolen stratavarius. Six.

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Speaker 1: the story of the Gibson. It's a seventeen thirteen Stratavarius. Now.

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Speaker 1: Of the six fifty years, so the remaining strata areas,

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Speaker 1: Brunoslaw Houberman owned the Gibson right, and it wasn't just

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Speaker 1: stolen from him once, but Hooberman got this violin ganked twice.

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Speaker 1: all right, who are these two goofs like you all right, okay,

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Speaker 1: do we need e m s like you know, once

419
00:22:22,880 --> 00:22:27,200
Speaker 1: that's ruled out, yeah, like nobody's bleeding, so it looks

420
00:22:27,240 --> 00:22:29,439
Speaker 1: like no harm. We're gonna, you know, take the report

421
00:22:29,760 --> 00:22:31,359
Speaker 1: and then you guys take this to your insurance and

422
00:22:31,400 --> 00:22:34,440
Speaker 1: they'll handle that. Well. It turns out the Lipinski is

423
00:22:34,560 --> 00:22:39,680
Speaker 1: valued at between five and six million dollars stop five

424
00:22:39,760 --> 00:22:42,880
Speaker 1: and six million dollars. The cops continue to not understand

425
00:22:42,920 --> 00:22:45,040
Speaker 1: this even when they try to explain the value of

426
00:22:45,119 --> 00:22:46,800
Speaker 1: like how they just like that that could be right,

427
00:22:46,880 --> 00:22:51,840
Speaker 1: that's just come on, okay, buddy, Yeah, it's invaluable. Yeah, okay.

428
00:22:53,240 --> 00:22:56,160
Speaker 1: So the clarinetis he gets, you know, he's like really

429
00:22:56,240 --> 00:22:58,680
Speaker 1: frustrated Todd. The clarinetis He's like, this is this is

430
00:22:58,760 --> 00:23:00,399
Speaker 1: just not right. So he goes and leans on his

431
00:23:00,480 --> 00:23:03,080
Speaker 1: Chevy Vault and he love that you keep pointing out.

432
00:23:06,480 --> 00:23:09,840
Speaker 1: So he goes he calls the orchestra's development director, right,

433
00:23:10,040 --> 00:23:12,719
Speaker 1: and then this leads to a daisy chain of phone calls. Right,

434
00:23:13,040 --> 00:23:17,360
Speaker 1: he gets to the orchestra board like the basically, I'm

435
00:23:17,400 --> 00:23:19,560
Speaker 1: one of the board members of the orchestra. He's in

436
00:23:19,640 --> 00:23:22,040
Speaker 1: South Carolina at the time on a golf trip. Eventually,

437
00:23:22,080 --> 00:23:26,040
Speaker 1: this daisy chain eventually gets to him. He is friends

438
00:23:26,040 --> 00:23:28,520
Speaker 1: with the chief police, so at twelve thirty on that

439
00:23:28,600 --> 00:23:30,600
Speaker 1: Monday night, he calls the chief of police and it's like,

440
00:23:30,680 --> 00:23:32,680
Speaker 1: you've got to handle this, right. The chief police is

441
00:23:32,760 --> 00:23:34,800
Speaker 1: like Oh, the chief police is cultured. He knows what

442
00:23:34,880 --> 00:23:36,480
Speaker 1: the strat of areas means. He knows he's going to

443
00:23:36,520 --> 00:23:38,680
Speaker 1: be like national news, right, so he immediately wants his

444
00:23:38,720 --> 00:23:41,520
Speaker 1: guys on it. Todd is clutch. Can we talk about that,

445
00:23:41,720 --> 00:23:43,760
Speaker 1: like the idea that he's going to talk to the

446
00:23:43,880 --> 00:23:47,240
Speaker 1: development director first, that's the money made, that's the money raiser. Like,

447
00:23:47,440 --> 00:23:52,200
Speaker 1: that's who's gonna good. Yeah, smart job, Todd. So this

448
00:23:52,320 --> 00:23:54,000
Speaker 1: started on the scene. He gets a call from the

449
00:23:54,080 --> 00:23:56,200
Speaker 1: chief of police, right, and the call, from what I've

450
00:23:56,200 --> 00:24:00,600
Speaker 1: read apparently goes like this, Sarge, Chief Flynn, Uh, really,

451
00:24:01,280 --> 00:24:04,320
Speaker 1: what do you got? I got, I gotta I got

452
00:24:04,440 --> 00:24:07,000
Speaker 1: a guy here. Somebody robbed his violin. Listened to me

453
00:24:07,280 --> 00:24:10,919
Speaker 1: very carefully. This is not a violin. This is an

454
00:24:10,960 --> 00:24:16,440
Speaker 1: effing multimillion dollar musical instrument call the cavalry. No, the

455
00:24:16,520 --> 00:24:18,000
Speaker 1: only the thing is the chief of police did not

456
00:24:18,040 --> 00:24:20,240
Speaker 1: say FFing. I said, I think for any small ears

457
00:24:20,240 --> 00:24:25,160
Speaker 1: in the room. But yes, I didn't want you never.

458
00:24:25,640 --> 00:24:27,680
Speaker 1: I've never heard a bad word in my life. I've

459
00:24:27,760 --> 00:24:30,199
Speaker 1: never said a bad word. No, just good words. All

460
00:24:30,240 --> 00:24:35,040
Speaker 1: good words from you. They're all good, pretty good. So

461
00:24:35,240 --> 00:24:38,320
Speaker 1: this chief of police, he gets the fire lit under

462
00:24:38,359 --> 00:24:40,320
Speaker 1: the beat patrol cops. Right, and now they know the

463
00:24:40,359 --> 00:24:41,920
Speaker 1: still on a violin. It is not just a violin,

464
00:24:42,080 --> 00:24:44,720
Speaker 1: it is a strata varius. Right when I told you

465
00:24:44,840 --> 00:24:48,240
Speaker 1: the strati Aius, it's called the Lepinski. The Lepinsky is

466
00:24:48,280 --> 00:24:52,359
Speaker 1: for the original owner, that ice skater. Yeah, Carol Lepinski,

467
00:24:52,520 --> 00:24:55,159
Speaker 1: she was the No, it was actually very close to

468
00:24:55,160 --> 00:24:59,840
Speaker 1: those Carol Lepinski violinist, Yeah, Polish violinist, Carol Lepinski with

469
00:24:59,920 --> 00:25:03,040
Speaker 1: a yeah. And so it was eventually then moved on,

470
00:25:03,200 --> 00:25:07,200
Speaker 1: as all great art does over the centuries, goes to Giuseppe.

471
00:25:08,600 --> 00:25:11,639
Speaker 1: He was also a composer and a virtuoso, so that

472
00:25:11,720 --> 00:25:14,119
Speaker 1: gave it even greater provenance. This would be like, you know,

473
00:25:14,440 --> 00:25:16,280
Speaker 1: not quite Verity, but like that where it's like, oh

474
00:25:16,440 --> 00:25:19,720
Speaker 1: this is okay, you get By two thousand eight, this

475
00:25:20,000 --> 00:25:23,760
Speaker 1: now fall into local ownership. It's in Milwaukee, it's in

476
00:25:23,840 --> 00:25:26,800
Speaker 1: a bank vault and storage. Person dies, it gets passed

477
00:25:26,840 --> 00:25:29,679
Speaker 1: on to another family member in the will, so they

478
00:25:29,760 --> 00:25:31,440
Speaker 1: take control of the strati Aious. They give it to

479
00:25:31,520 --> 00:25:34,520
Speaker 1: this dude, Stefan hirsh Is in Chicago. He's a basically

480
00:25:34,640 --> 00:25:39,280
Speaker 1: a refurbisher for violins, a Refurbisher luthier and uh, that's

481
00:25:39,320 --> 00:25:43,680
Speaker 1: when the lapinski is given to Frank Almond. Okay, and

482
00:25:43,760 --> 00:25:49,040
Speaker 1: now this lapinski is gone. Wow, you really feel for Frank.

483
00:25:49,080 --> 00:25:51,640
Speaker 1: I respect that about you do. I'm still just trying

484
00:25:51,680 --> 00:25:54,200
Speaker 1: to figure out who owns it at this point, did

485
00:25:54,320 --> 00:25:59,520
Speaker 1: Frank Franklin It's loaned to Frank by this the family

486
00:25:59,640 --> 00:26:02,600
Speaker 1: member in Milwaukee who was unknown. It's an anonymous family

487
00:26:02,680 --> 00:26:05,040
Speaker 1: member for this. This rich guy basically dies and gives

488
00:26:05,080 --> 00:26:08,280
Speaker 1: it to a family member and then they they loan

489
00:26:08,359 --> 00:26:11,320
Speaker 1: it to Frank Almond. So really he's out of being

490
00:26:11,359 --> 00:26:14,280
Speaker 1: able to play the instrument. It's not even the ownership.

491
00:26:14,359 --> 00:26:16,200
Speaker 1: You know, it's not that he's like, I'm losing this,

492
00:26:16,640 --> 00:26:19,639
Speaker 1: but if someone loans you something worth five million dollars,

493
00:26:19,720 --> 00:26:23,320
Speaker 1: you're going to feel terrible if you lose it. Aside

494
00:26:23,359 --> 00:26:26,400
Speaker 1: from the fact that he has become one with his violin, Yeah,

495
00:26:26,400 --> 00:26:27,960
Speaker 1: I think it's more about that. I mean, I didn't

496
00:26:27,960 --> 00:26:30,040
Speaker 1: think that he's even thought about the five million dollar aspect.

497
00:26:30,160 --> 00:26:32,600
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know. I'm not Frank Almon. Yeah,

498
00:26:32,640 --> 00:26:37,080
Speaker 1: that's true. No, wontter what anyone tells you. So it

499
00:26:37,119 --> 00:26:40,800
Speaker 1: doesn't take the Milwaukee Police long to discover the abandoned

500
00:26:40,880 --> 00:26:43,399
Speaker 1: violin case. It's been tossed on the side of the road, right,

501
00:26:43,840 --> 00:26:47,400
Speaker 1: the violin. Just the case is missing. It's ads, it's

502
00:26:47,480 --> 00:26:50,080
Speaker 1: just the case that So Milwaukee Pede, You're like, oh, look,

503
00:26:50,080 --> 00:26:51,639
Speaker 1: we're on and over our heads. We're going to have

504
00:26:51,720 --> 00:26:56,080
Speaker 1: to call the FBI Art Crime Team. Those guys are amazing, right,

505
00:26:56,160 --> 00:26:59,680
Speaker 1: they're fun. I've interviewed some people. Oh yeah, they're really cool.

506
00:27:00,000 --> 00:27:02,159
Speaker 1: The only real clue that they had to give the

507
00:27:02,280 --> 00:27:05,600
Speaker 1: FBI was the taser. Huh. Yeah. Did you know the

508
00:27:05,680 --> 00:27:08,000
Speaker 1: tasers fire a cloud of evidence in time you use them?

509
00:27:08,840 --> 00:27:11,520
Speaker 1: I did not know this either. Yeah. So the FBI

510
00:27:11,640 --> 00:27:14,480
Speaker 1: said the taser gave them quote invaluable information. And what

511
00:27:14,560 --> 00:27:17,479
Speaker 1: they mean by this is the confetti that it fires

512
00:27:17,560 --> 00:27:20,480
Speaker 1: that has serial numbers written on every single piece of confetti.

513
00:27:20,560 --> 00:27:26,120
Speaker 1: I didn't know that tasers fire confetti when you shoot them. Yeah,

514
00:27:26,280 --> 00:27:31,720
Speaker 1: that is So that is the biggest party. I love that.

515
00:27:31,880 --> 00:27:34,000
Speaker 1: Let's get some tasers for the weekend. Well, I mean,

516
00:27:34,080 --> 00:27:35,760
Speaker 1: it's like, you know, you're in this situation where you

517
00:27:35,840 --> 00:27:38,359
Speaker 1: got to taste someone and it's uncomfortable for both parts.

518
00:27:39,280 --> 00:27:41,000
Speaker 1: Let's lighten it up a bit. I didn't make that

519
00:27:41,080 --> 00:27:47,800
Speaker 1: mood more fun. Hey, you get a shock and a surprise.

520
00:27:49,920 --> 00:27:51,679
Speaker 1: The FBI do they all have to do that. They

521
00:27:51,680 --> 00:27:53,760
Speaker 1: go out and they collect some of this confetti from

522
00:27:53,800 --> 00:27:57,320
Speaker 1: the scene. They immediately now know who the distributor was.

523
00:27:57,440 --> 00:28:00,000
Speaker 1: They contact the distributor, and then the distributor and done.

524
00:28:00,119 --> 00:28:01,760
Speaker 1: Texas tells him, Oh, yes, we have the owner of

525
00:28:01,800 --> 00:28:05,720
Speaker 1: record right here. Apparently his name is universal Knowledge a law. Okay,

526
00:28:05,840 --> 00:28:10,520
Speaker 1: hold on a second, his name is universal Knowledge a law. Yes, okay,

527
00:28:10,720 --> 00:28:13,560
Speaker 1: I just needed to establish that. Well, yes, did you

528
00:28:13,600 --> 00:28:15,800
Speaker 1: see you? And the FBI had that same hesitation. The

529
00:28:15,880 --> 00:28:19,480
Speaker 1: FBI police Captain Jeff point he was convinced it was

530
00:28:19,560 --> 00:28:21,480
Speaker 1: a fake. He's like, who's going to name their baby

531
00:28:21,600 --> 00:28:24,920
Speaker 1: universal Knowledge a law? Somebody? No, he could have changed

532
00:28:24,920 --> 00:28:28,240
Speaker 1: his name. Comps to have a failure of imagination. If

533
00:28:28,280 --> 00:28:31,160
Speaker 1: you were the name of baby and some unexpected name

534
00:28:31,240 --> 00:28:34,399
Speaker 1: will say, what would you go with? Well, we know

535
00:28:34,600 --> 00:28:38,000
Speaker 1: that my favorite alias is Regina corn Tower of course,

536
00:28:38,200 --> 00:28:43,720
Speaker 1: so I think baby China, Baby China, baby Jina corn Tower. Yeah,

537
00:28:44,000 --> 00:28:48,720
Speaker 1: and then her little brother dinghis tower, Dingus corn Tower.

538
00:28:49,600 --> 00:28:51,720
Speaker 1: I just want to set these kids up for success.

539
00:28:52,440 --> 00:28:54,440
Speaker 1: I want something that's going to look good on a resonme,

540
00:28:54,520 --> 00:28:56,200
Speaker 1: he's going to stand out. Some mean to call attention

541
00:28:56,240 --> 00:28:59,120
Speaker 1: to it, something that says I'm the boss here, and ma'am,

542
00:28:59,280 --> 00:29:05,480
Speaker 1: this is an rby now, my man, universal knowledge a

543
00:29:05,560 --> 00:29:08,840
Speaker 1: law the Vanity Fair wrote about this case. I recommend

544
00:29:08,920 --> 00:29:11,120
Speaker 1: the article They described him and I think probably a

545
00:29:11,200 --> 00:29:14,320
Speaker 1: really beautiful term quote. And he was an affable barber

546
00:29:14,400 --> 00:29:19,920
Speaker 1: and tupperware consultant. Good, yes, give me a second affable

547
00:29:19,960 --> 00:29:23,120
Speaker 1: barber and tupperware consultant hoping to crack the middle aged

548
00:29:23,160 --> 00:29:28,960
Speaker 1: housewife party market. I mean, how can you That's what

549
00:29:29,840 --> 00:29:33,320
Speaker 1: I steal that for all of my future bios. Did

550
00:29:33,360 --> 00:29:36,760
Speaker 1: you remember? So, my man UNI or you know, universal

551
00:29:36,840 --> 00:29:40,160
Speaker 1: knowledge allaw, the FBI has been able to down finally

552
00:29:40,280 --> 00:29:43,080
Speaker 1: to track him down because of this fun fetty that's

553
00:29:43,120 --> 00:29:50,240
Speaker 1: been fired by this the taser. Okay, now, the better

554
00:29:50,320 --> 00:29:52,560
Speaker 1: part is even though they have all that, it's the

555
00:29:52,600 --> 00:29:56,400
Speaker 1: Milwaukee Police who managed to somehow stumble into solving this

556
00:29:56,560 --> 00:30:01,440
Speaker 1: crime without using that nice you know what, good old

557
00:30:01,480 --> 00:30:05,040
Speaker 1: fashioned shoe leather. Yes exactly. We'll be right back after

558
00:30:05,240 --> 00:30:07,400
Speaker 1: this break and I will tell you how the Milwaukee

559
00:30:07,520 --> 00:30:10,000
Speaker 1: p D got the jump on the FBI. In the

560
00:30:10,720 --> 00:30:37,760
Speaker 1: case of the universal knowledge a law. Stun gunn something. Okay, Elizabeth,

561
00:30:37,840 --> 00:30:40,960
Speaker 1: we're back now. I told you the FBI had figured

562
00:30:41,000 --> 00:30:42,920
Speaker 1: out that their man that they needed to find was

563
00:30:43,080 --> 00:30:45,600
Speaker 1: universal knowledge a law. And I said the Milwaukee p

564
00:30:45,720 --> 00:30:48,320
Speaker 1: D also found their way to universal knowledge a law.

565
00:30:48,920 --> 00:30:52,520
Speaker 1: So how did the Milwaukee p D get there? I

566
00:30:53,160 --> 00:30:56,240
Speaker 1: don't know, Leather. They just happened to be in the

567
00:30:56,320 --> 00:30:58,360
Speaker 1: right place at the right time. So it was almost

568
00:30:58,360 --> 00:31:01,840
Speaker 1: through no effort of their own. Yeah, I think they

569
00:31:01,920 --> 00:31:04,280
Speaker 1: just got lucky. Basically. I'll tell you in a second

570
00:31:04,640 --> 00:31:08,560
Speaker 1: February second, five days after the robbery, right, things like

571
00:31:08,680 --> 00:31:10,800
Speaker 1: there's pressure the national news and I'm trying to talk

572
00:31:10,800 --> 00:31:12,960
Speaker 1: about his story is going international, so there's like, you know,

573
00:31:13,000 --> 00:31:14,880
Speaker 1: pressure from up top. You guys got to do something.

574
00:31:15,280 --> 00:31:18,040
Speaker 1: So people are like not like beating the pavement. I

575
00:31:18,040 --> 00:31:20,240
Speaker 1: don't know whatever, maybe they are. But this one cop,

576
00:31:20,360 --> 00:31:24,080
Speaker 1: he's an off duty Milwaukee cop, Gerardo or Rosco, right,

577
00:31:24,240 --> 00:31:26,960
Speaker 1: and he's sitting in a barbershop on a Sunday, and

578
00:31:27,080 --> 00:31:29,280
Speaker 1: someone comes up to be like, hey man, you're a cop. Right.

579
00:31:29,440 --> 00:31:31,040
Speaker 1: He's like, yeah, wait, wait, what are you talking? I

580
00:31:31,120 --> 00:31:33,719
Speaker 1: know where that stolen strat is and he opens up

581
00:31:33,760 --> 00:31:41,760
Speaker 1: a giant tupperware big are you interested in multiple container storage?

582
00:31:41,880 --> 00:31:44,800
Speaker 1: Because I have a beautiful set. He has a tupperware

583
00:31:44,960 --> 00:31:51,720
Speaker 1: violin case he's ordered away already. Well, you know, it

584
00:31:51,880 --> 00:31:54,120
Speaker 1: was not actually universal knowledge of a law who came

585
00:31:54,160 --> 00:31:57,080
Speaker 1: up to him with this information. It was a snitch

586
00:31:57,240 --> 00:31:59,479
Speaker 1: who decided, you know, I'm gonna go and see if

587
00:31:59,480 --> 00:32:01,280
Speaker 1: I can make some money off of what I happened

588
00:32:01,320 --> 00:32:06,400
Speaker 1: to know. Global knowledge a law just keeps getting smaller.

589
00:32:09,080 --> 00:32:10,840
Speaker 1: This dude that Roscoe is known for a couple of

590
00:32:10,880 --> 00:32:12,160
Speaker 1: years comes up and he's like, hey, man, I know

591
00:32:12,200 --> 00:32:14,560
Speaker 1: where that violin is at. Now. Of course the cop

592
00:32:14,600 --> 00:32:16,640
Speaker 1: wants to know more, so he's like, yeah, what do

593
00:32:16,680 --> 00:32:18,160
Speaker 1: you got? So he's like, hey, snitch, you want to

594
00:32:18,160 --> 00:32:20,720
Speaker 1: step outside? And the Snitch's like yeah, bet. So they

595
00:32:20,800 --> 00:32:23,960
Speaker 1: go out and then he's like, look, man, on Saturday yesterday,

596
00:32:24,200 --> 00:32:26,720
Speaker 1: I was at a barbershop called First Impressions over on MLK,

597
00:32:26,960 --> 00:32:28,840
Speaker 1: because of course he was at a barbershop on m OK.

598
00:32:29,440 --> 00:32:32,080
Speaker 1: That's where the snitch gets his hair cut the day before.

599
00:32:32,200 --> 00:32:35,920
Speaker 1: By universal knowledge a law, right, and first impression. The

600
00:32:35,960 --> 00:32:38,200
Speaker 1: first impression. Yeah, so he's like on this on that Saturday,

601
00:32:38,280 --> 00:32:41,040
Speaker 1: the TV was on Man and the news mentioned that

602
00:32:41,120 --> 00:32:44,040
Speaker 1: stolen strat. Now everyone in the shop starts talking like, yo, man,

603
00:32:44,080 --> 00:32:46,200
Speaker 1: that's a stupid ish to take, because like, how are

604
00:32:46,200 --> 00:32:47,960
Speaker 1: you gonna sell that? What? What kind of dumb Bundy's

605
00:32:47,960 --> 00:32:49,840
Speaker 1: gonna go in there and try to sell a stolen strat?

606
00:32:49,880 --> 00:32:51,880
Speaker 1: Around here? Nobody's gonna buy. We don't know anybody's gonna

607
00:32:51,880 --> 00:32:54,080
Speaker 1: buy a strat, right, So everyone's pretty much figuring it's

608
00:32:54,080 --> 00:32:56,880
Speaker 1: not hard to steal the strat, it's hard to move

609
00:32:57,320 --> 00:33:00,840
Speaker 1: completely completely, right. So they're all on this and one

610
00:33:00,920 --> 00:33:03,400
Speaker 1: of them knows that he's involved in the crime and

611
00:33:03,440 --> 00:33:05,920
Speaker 1: he's just sitting there. Yeah, man, that's that's right. I

612
00:33:05,960 --> 00:33:07,840
Speaker 1: don't know, but if you're like really smart, you could

613
00:33:07,840 --> 00:33:09,360
Speaker 1: probably do it. I mean, maybe it's something was like

614
00:33:09,360 --> 00:33:11,280
Speaker 1: super Really you guys don't even know how smart you'd

615
00:33:11,320 --> 00:33:13,240
Speaker 1: have to be, and you may even know somebody who's

616
00:33:13,280 --> 00:33:14,920
Speaker 1: that smart, and you don't even know that you know that.

617
00:33:15,000 --> 00:33:16,920
Speaker 1: I mean, it could be hiding in a tupperware it

618
00:33:16,920 --> 00:33:19,280
Speaker 1: could be like in this room and we wouldn't know.

619
00:33:21,080 --> 00:33:23,680
Speaker 1: So the barbershop is not actually the hiding place for

620
00:33:23,800 --> 00:33:25,600
Speaker 1: the strap. But they're getting to talking about how you

621
00:33:25,640 --> 00:33:27,280
Speaker 1: know stealing it and it's it's not going to be

622
00:33:27,360 --> 00:33:29,080
Speaker 1: easy and how are you gonna move it and everything.

623
00:33:29,560 --> 00:33:33,160
Speaker 1: So a bunch of people are like, basically, you gotta

624
00:33:33,200 --> 00:33:35,720
Speaker 1: have your buyer lined up, and so the snitches like

625
00:33:36,360 --> 00:33:38,600
Speaker 1: telling this story of Roscar Rusco is like okay, okay, yeah,

626
00:33:38,600 --> 00:33:41,160
Speaker 1: but what do you know about it? And he's like, okay, okay,

627
00:33:41,480 --> 00:33:43,720
Speaker 1: all right, this is a part you probably want to know. See,

628
00:33:44,280 --> 00:33:46,840
Speaker 1: I gotta ride home with Universal knowledge a law, right,

629
00:33:47,280 --> 00:33:51,280
Speaker 1: so you universal cuts his hair his hair and then

630
00:33:51,320 --> 00:33:53,440
Speaker 1: it's like you need to ride No, he was like

631
00:33:53,520 --> 00:33:55,520
Speaker 1: he actually asking Universal knowledge. All he's like, hey, man,

632
00:33:55,680 --> 00:33:57,240
Speaker 1: do you mind give me a ride back to my place?

633
00:33:57,240 --> 00:33:58,720
Speaker 1: Because he was about to leave the shop, and so

634
00:33:58,800 --> 00:34:00,880
Speaker 1: he's like, what you're leaving your mind? Because they knew

635
00:34:00,880 --> 00:34:03,120
Speaker 1: each other, they grew up together, they've known each other

636
00:34:03,240 --> 00:34:06,160
Speaker 1: since high school and they're like friends and so it's

637
00:34:06,160 --> 00:34:09,360
Speaker 1: not just him getting his hair cut from something. Barbara,

638
00:34:09,400 --> 00:34:14,080
Speaker 1: do you want to just go home where this goes? So?

639
00:34:14,280 --> 00:34:15,719
Speaker 1: Do you want to cut in for coffee? Yeah? Like,

640
00:34:15,719 --> 00:34:17,440
Speaker 1: why are you touching my head? This feels really like

641
00:34:17,560 --> 00:34:23,280
Speaker 1: we've done something here, something special, So maybe anyway, Universal

642
00:34:23,400 --> 00:34:25,560
Speaker 1: knowledge all laws, Like, all right, you want to ride home, bet,

643
00:34:25,640 --> 00:34:28,480
Speaker 1: let's go. So he goes, and he's gonna like, you know,

644
00:34:29,000 --> 00:34:30,440
Speaker 1: I don't know. They have to go across town. I

645
00:34:30,440 --> 00:34:32,000
Speaker 1: actually don't know how far, but they're going for a

646
00:34:32,080 --> 00:34:34,160
Speaker 1: little bit above a drive because it's enough for them

647
00:34:34,160 --> 00:34:37,279
Speaker 1: to have a conversation. So the snitch is like, yo, Uni, man,

648
00:34:37,360 --> 00:34:39,560
Speaker 1: you were saying something about their inside of a barbershop

649
00:34:39,600 --> 00:34:41,319
Speaker 1: about you kind of kind of sound like you knew

650
00:34:41,320 --> 00:34:44,200
Speaker 1: something about the strat and the universal knowledge of laws,

651
00:34:44,280 --> 00:34:46,719
Speaker 1: Like yeah, man, actually I do I know who stole it.

652
00:34:47,320 --> 00:34:49,520
Speaker 1: He's like wait what? And the snitch you know he

653
00:34:49,640 --> 00:34:51,600
Speaker 1: hears money in there because everything he's saying no, I

654
00:34:51,800 --> 00:34:53,200
Speaker 1: was like, oh, I can sell this to the cops.

655
00:34:53,320 --> 00:34:55,480
Speaker 1: So he's like yeah, go on, man, like what what? Who?

656
00:34:55,560 --> 00:34:58,120
Speaker 1: Who could it be? That? Do we both know this person?

657
00:34:58,239 --> 00:35:00,839
Speaker 1: You know? And so universal knowledge? I was like, hey, man,

658
00:35:00,880 --> 00:35:03,480
Speaker 1: you know that brothers Sala and the snitches like, oh

659
00:35:03,640 --> 00:35:09,040
Speaker 1: we're yeah. What's his last name? Again? I was like, man, yeah,

660
00:35:09,080 --> 00:35:10,600
Speaker 1: he say, he says, tell him, yeah, you know, it's

661
00:35:10,600 --> 00:35:12,839
Speaker 1: a loss. The dean you know him? And he's all right, right, yeah,

662
00:35:13,360 --> 00:35:18,080
Speaker 1: where what's his apartment? Number hooking anyway, the universal knowledge

663
00:35:18,080 --> 00:35:20,400
Speaker 1: a lot apparently doesn't catch up that the snitches is

664
00:35:20,440 --> 00:35:23,239
Speaker 1: basically clocking everything he's saying. So the driving around and

665
00:35:23,400 --> 00:35:26,440
Speaker 1: you and he's like still trusting the snitch, not noticing

666
00:35:26,480 --> 00:35:29,120
Speaker 1: that the snitch is basically listening in a way that is,

667
00:35:29,320 --> 00:35:31,480
Speaker 1: you know, clear, he's clocking every bit of information he

668
00:35:31,560 --> 00:35:33,759
Speaker 1: can and you and he tells him like, oh man,

669
00:35:34,080 --> 00:35:37,279
Speaker 1: you gotta understand Salt. He's searched and researched everything you

670
00:35:37,400 --> 00:35:39,319
Speaker 1: need to know about how to steal a strap. Man,

671
00:35:39,600 --> 00:35:41,600
Speaker 1: he had all the angles figured out, like when he

672
00:35:41,719 --> 00:35:44,719
Speaker 1: robbed that concertmaster musician the night of the show, after

673
00:35:44,800 --> 00:35:47,000
Speaker 1: his show. It's a lot Man quote and I quote

674
00:35:47,080 --> 00:35:50,320
Speaker 1: him he used the electric not the heat. I just

675
00:35:50,400 --> 00:35:54,000
Speaker 1: love that expression. Electric not the heat are instead of

676
00:35:54,080 --> 00:35:56,640
Speaker 1: using a gun. Right, So he's of the opinion this

677
00:35:56,760 --> 00:35:58,120
Speaker 1: is smart because it means he's not going to get

678
00:35:58,200 --> 00:36:03,399
Speaker 1: an enhanced charge if he does get caught. So now

679
00:36:03,680 --> 00:36:05,480
Speaker 1: the one thing that UNI doesn't know is he's got

680
00:36:05,600 --> 00:36:08,640
Speaker 1: problems because the taser is the evidence in this crime

681
00:36:08,719 --> 00:36:13,520
Speaker 1: and his name is on the receipt. So basically, yeah, exactly,

682
00:36:13,520 --> 00:36:15,680
Speaker 1: he's basically talking about his future coming to a real

683
00:36:15,760 --> 00:36:18,879
Speaker 1: dark and real fast and the thief who had asked

684
00:36:18,920 --> 00:36:21,240
Speaker 1: him to buy it, Sala he couldn't buy it himself

685
00:36:21,280 --> 00:36:23,520
Speaker 1: because he already had a record, so that's why he

686
00:36:23,640 --> 00:36:25,880
Speaker 1: had to come and ask Uni to do it. And

687
00:36:26,040 --> 00:36:29,160
Speaker 1: universal knowledge a law. He wasn't personally involved in the crime,

688
00:36:29,239 --> 00:36:31,279
Speaker 1: he wasn't benefiting from the crime, but he was very

689
00:36:31,360 --> 00:36:34,640
Speaker 1: much at the center of the crime. Right, So everything

690
00:36:34,680 --> 00:36:37,920
Speaker 1: he's telling the snitch is basically he's penning himself. He

691
00:36:38,000 --> 00:36:41,120
Speaker 1: doesn't know it though. Also there's the other key fact

692
00:36:41,200 --> 00:36:43,800
Speaker 1: is Sala called him the night of the robbery, so

693
00:36:43,880 --> 00:36:46,719
Speaker 1: there's also records of him, like right after the crime,

694
00:36:46,800 --> 00:36:49,280
Speaker 1: he called to check in like I got the instrument,

695
00:36:49,440 --> 00:36:53,440
Speaker 1: So that doesn't help either, right, So anyway, universal knowledge

696
00:36:53,440 --> 00:36:56,360
Speaker 1: a law. He gets back to the snitches place and

697
00:36:56,400 --> 00:37:00,480
Speaker 1: drops him off. The snitch immediately goes to the Milwauk Police.

698
00:37:01,280 --> 00:37:03,680
Speaker 1: It's like he hit snitch lottery. He's like, oh, man,

699
00:37:03,880 --> 00:37:06,360
Speaker 1: he goes he calls up the police and then this

700
00:37:06,520 --> 00:37:09,040
Speaker 1: is he finds officer at Roscoe the next day and

701
00:37:09,080 --> 00:37:10,640
Speaker 1: he goes, man, here, I want to tell you what

702
00:37:10,719 --> 00:37:12,160
Speaker 1: I know, and he tells him everything what he heard

703
00:37:12,160 --> 00:37:13,680
Speaker 1: in the barbershop the day before and then what he

704
00:37:13,719 --> 00:37:17,360
Speaker 1: heard him on the ride. So Officer Roscoe contacts Milwaukee

705
00:37:17,480 --> 00:37:19,640
Speaker 1: Police and he has an officer he contacts the detective.

706
00:37:19,719 --> 00:37:21,640
Speaker 1: Detectives are like wait what and then they now they

707
00:37:21,719 --> 00:37:23,600
Speaker 1: got like a super solid lead. So they go right

708
00:37:23,680 --> 00:37:25,920
Speaker 1: over and they talked to the snitch. They asked him

709
00:37:25,920 --> 00:37:28,520
Speaker 1: to identify. He's like, who do you think stole the

710
00:37:28,600 --> 00:37:31,000
Speaker 1: Lepinski strap? Can you point the man? He's like, that's him,

711
00:37:31,080 --> 00:37:33,640
Speaker 1: Sala Saladin right there, and so he picks him out

712
00:37:33,680 --> 00:37:35,880
Speaker 1: of like a photo lineup. So now they have an

713
00:37:35,920 --> 00:37:37,680
Speaker 1: I D. So that's pretty much as you know, everything

714
00:37:37,719 --> 00:37:40,480
Speaker 1: that they need for like search warrants and everything. So

715
00:37:40,920 --> 00:37:43,920
Speaker 1: the next day, February three, Milwaukee Police show up at

716
00:37:44,080 --> 00:37:48,200
Speaker 1: Universal Knowledge of Laws apartment with a search warrant right

717
00:37:48,239 --> 00:37:51,279
Speaker 1: and the search warrant the cops used to enter the place.

718
00:37:51,360 --> 00:37:53,800
Speaker 1: They start going through all the stuff. They find a

719
00:37:53,960 --> 00:37:57,360
Speaker 1: three fifty seven revolver, the heat the heat and mentioned

720
00:37:57,400 --> 00:38:01,080
Speaker 1: the aforementioned heat. They also find I liked this little detail,

721
00:38:01,120 --> 00:38:03,280
Speaker 1: and a box of apple Jack cereal was a digital

722
00:38:03,320 --> 00:38:08,080
Speaker 1: scale and twenty seven grams of pot got the details

723
00:38:08,120 --> 00:38:12,880
Speaker 1: in here. The Chevy Vault apple Jacks stash and then

724
00:38:12,920 --> 00:38:14,560
Speaker 1: he had a but he also had a laundry basket

725
00:38:14,680 --> 00:38:18,560
Speaker 1: with eighteen other grams of pots in Baggy's. It's all told.

726
00:38:18,560 --> 00:38:21,560
Speaker 1: The cops found about forty five grams conversion rate. That's

727
00:38:21,560 --> 00:38:24,120
Speaker 1: about ounce and a half. Yeah, I was gonna say,

728
00:38:25,680 --> 00:38:28,239
Speaker 1: now I'm thinking of my kitchen scale and when I'm

729
00:38:28,480 --> 00:38:31,200
Speaker 1: measuring out flour for bread and stuff, and I'm like,

730
00:38:31,360 --> 00:38:33,560
Speaker 1: that's not a lot. That's not a lot of Exactly,

731
00:38:33,719 --> 00:38:37,360
Speaker 1: he hasn't even hit a cup at that point. The

732
00:38:37,440 --> 00:38:39,880
Speaker 1: one thing that they cops do not find a stolen

733
00:38:39,920 --> 00:38:43,359
Speaker 1: strata areas. Yeah, I know the universal knowledge a lot.

734
00:38:43,440 --> 00:38:44,920
Speaker 1: He knows. They got him on the taser because they

735
00:38:44,960 --> 00:38:46,560
Speaker 1: just basically say, look, man here and they tell him

736
00:38:46,600 --> 00:38:48,560
Speaker 1: why the search warrant. He's like okay, So he cops

737
00:38:48,600 --> 00:38:50,360
Speaker 1: to that on the spot and he's like, yeah, that's me,

738
00:38:51,000 --> 00:38:53,439
Speaker 1: and he confirms everything that the snitch set and like, yeah,

739
00:38:53,680 --> 00:38:55,440
Speaker 1: this guy said this and then this. He's like, dad,

740
00:38:55,440 --> 00:38:57,759
Speaker 1: I said that, Yeah, I said that. He goes down

741
00:38:58,280 --> 00:39:01,040
Speaker 1: and then they're like okay, so he's arrest and he's

742
00:39:01,040 --> 00:39:02,759
Speaker 1: like he tells him, look, I've known a lot about

743
00:39:02,800 --> 00:39:04,840
Speaker 1: seven years, about seven months ago, he came to me

744
00:39:04,880 --> 00:39:06,280
Speaker 1: and he said, I want you to buy a taser,

745
00:39:06,320 --> 00:39:07,920
Speaker 1: and I said, all right, you got the money bet,

746
00:39:08,040 --> 00:39:10,400
Speaker 1: And he's like, okay, so now he's got the FBI.

747
00:39:10,480 --> 00:39:12,160
Speaker 1: As Dorcas, this is what happens to you do a

748
00:39:12,200 --> 00:39:13,840
Speaker 1: favor for a friend. This is a This is a

749
00:39:13,920 --> 00:39:17,200
Speaker 1: life tip. If someone asks you to purchase a weapon

750
00:39:17,760 --> 00:39:20,640
Speaker 1: in a legitimate manner for them because they can't, don't.

751
00:39:21,040 --> 00:39:22,719
Speaker 1: Don't do that. Just don't do it. Don't do that.

752
00:39:24,160 --> 00:39:26,440
Speaker 1: That's just my just like a good life tip. If

753
00:39:26,520 --> 00:39:29,000
Speaker 1: someone comes to you with a package and says, can

754
00:39:29,080 --> 00:39:31,759
Speaker 1: you hide this in your house? You say yes? For

755
00:39:31,840 --> 00:39:34,000
Speaker 1: how long you got to really think about that answer?

756
00:39:34,280 --> 00:39:37,560
Speaker 1: Because if you're like universal knowledge, he's he's chatting it

757
00:39:37,680 --> 00:39:40,400
Speaker 1: up to people. Yeah, he's a very trusting guy. He

758
00:39:40,640 --> 00:39:45,080
Speaker 1: seems like a very open tupperware salesman. If so, if

759
00:39:45,120 --> 00:39:47,080
Speaker 1: he came to me with a tupperware and said can

760
00:39:47,120 --> 00:39:48,680
Speaker 1: you hide this in your house and was full of

761
00:39:48,719 --> 00:39:51,800
Speaker 1: hair clippings, I'd say sure, but I'm never going to

762
00:39:51,840 --> 00:39:54,800
Speaker 1: tell a soul about it. Clip piece of barber Do

763
00:39:54,920 --> 00:39:57,239
Speaker 1: you think he keeps the hair? They don't. They don't

764
00:39:57,280 --> 00:39:58,759
Speaker 1: keep that. They don't keep the hair. No, that's not

765
00:39:58,840 --> 00:40:02,080
Speaker 1: why they barber I thought, I thought every hairdresser kept

766
00:40:02,080 --> 00:40:03,600
Speaker 1: the hair. And you know they're not like farmers. They

767
00:40:03,640 --> 00:40:07,319
Speaker 1: don't harvest thing. The only people like I guess those

768
00:40:07,360 --> 00:40:09,200
Speaker 1: Elvis is barber. He tried to sell like a bunch

769
00:40:09,280 --> 00:40:11,520
Speaker 1: of his hair. He like swept off off. They burn

770
00:40:11,600 --> 00:40:14,000
Speaker 1: the hair for warmth. Yeah, exactly. It's a whole hundred

771
00:40:14,040 --> 00:40:20,120
Speaker 1: gatherer thing. Well, the Milwaukee police now after contact Universal

772
00:40:20,160 --> 00:40:22,520
Speaker 1: Knowledge a law, they go be line right over to

773
00:40:22,719 --> 00:40:25,759
Speaker 1: Salasalvadane's house. They have a search war actually apartment, and

774
00:40:25,760 --> 00:40:27,480
Speaker 1: they have a search warrant for his place as well.

775
00:40:28,360 --> 00:40:30,680
Speaker 1: So on that same day, February third, the cops go

776
00:40:30,840 --> 00:40:33,120
Speaker 1: from Universal Knowledge a lot over to Sala Sala Deane's

777
00:40:33,160 --> 00:40:36,440
Speaker 1: house and Sala Salvadin is also expecting them, so he

778
00:40:36,600 --> 00:40:38,960
Speaker 1: just just sitting there and when the cops show up,

779
00:40:39,080 --> 00:40:42,320
Speaker 1: he's just introduces them to his place. Please come in,

780
00:40:42,400 --> 00:40:45,560
Speaker 1: would you like something? And this is like some apple jacks, Yeah,

781
00:40:46,760 --> 00:40:50,160
Speaker 1: some apple juice? What would you like? So he the

782
00:40:50,280 --> 00:40:53,040
Speaker 1: cops search, and what they do find it's basically incriminating

783
00:40:53,080 --> 00:40:55,880
Speaker 1: for Salas Saladine is a binder with color copies of

784
00:40:55,960 --> 00:41:00,080
Speaker 1: newspaper articles and clipping of various art crimes of the

785
00:41:00,160 --> 00:41:04,279
Speaker 1: world history. He had. He had like laminated things. I

786
00:41:04,320 --> 00:41:07,320
Speaker 1: thought you'd like that, all color coordinated, various ones like

787
00:41:07,400 --> 00:41:09,200
Speaker 1: he had like his section on strata various thefts. He

788
00:41:09,239 --> 00:41:11,399
Speaker 1: had a section on other art crime thefts. And then

789
00:41:12,800 --> 00:41:15,719
Speaker 1: would do that if I were you have a very

790
00:41:15,840 --> 00:41:20,000
Speaker 1: organized research binder for your crimes. Yeah, totally. He also

791
00:41:20,080 --> 00:41:22,080
Speaker 1: had a black business card and on the back he

792
00:41:22,120 --> 00:41:24,399
Speaker 1: had a little note he said Taser dot com five

793
00:41:24,480 --> 00:41:28,239
Speaker 1: hundred to a thousand dollars Taser dot com. So I

794
00:41:28,280 --> 00:41:30,680
Speaker 1: think that's when he probably talking to universal knowledge of

795
00:41:30,719 --> 00:41:32,000
Speaker 1: law and he's like, look, I need to go to

796
00:41:32,080 --> 00:41:35,120
Speaker 1: tasor dot com five hundred to a thousand, got it.

797
00:41:36,000 --> 00:41:40,000
Speaker 1: I'll see you next Saturday. My goodness. So the evidence,

798
00:41:40,040 --> 00:41:42,440
Speaker 1: all these criminals are just leaving around like you have

799
00:41:42,600 --> 00:41:47,040
Speaker 1: fun fetty business cards, notes on the back, color coded binders.

800
00:41:47,080 --> 00:41:50,560
Speaker 1: It's like the taser shoots out confetti and mini eminem

801
00:41:51,200 --> 00:41:52,960
Speaker 1: It's like, can you mind for like a Hollywood set

802
00:41:53,000 --> 00:41:55,000
Speaker 1: decorator or screenwriter, like I can never get away with

803
00:41:55,080 --> 00:41:58,040
Speaker 1: this because what the hell? That's why they don't. It's

804
00:41:58,040 --> 00:42:02,560
Speaker 1: like a pinata of pain, YadA pain and evidence. The

805
00:42:03,040 --> 00:42:05,319
Speaker 1: there was a detective named Billy Ball because of course

806
00:42:05,360 --> 00:42:07,200
Speaker 1: as a detective name Billy Ball, and he's the one

807
00:42:07,239 --> 00:42:10,680
Speaker 1: that interviews the suspects Salah, and Sala confidently tells the

808
00:42:10,760 --> 00:42:12,759
Speaker 1: cops that, you know, as I said, he'd expected them

809
00:42:12,800 --> 00:42:15,880
Speaker 1: to come. He said, and I quote, I figured you

810
00:42:15,920 --> 00:42:18,799
Speaker 1: guys would be coming. Detective Billy Ball is like, why

811
00:42:19,840 --> 00:42:25,360
Speaker 1: Sala expanded because of my reputation? Oh what reputation? The

812
00:42:25,480 --> 00:42:29,160
Speaker 1: detective ascent right, and he's like, my reputation is a

813
00:42:29,239 --> 00:42:34,480
Speaker 1: high end art thief at He's like Milwaukee's most popular

814
00:42:34,600 --> 00:42:36,160
Speaker 1: art thief. Like you've probably heard of me. I'm kind

815
00:42:36,160 --> 00:42:38,720
Speaker 1: of a big deal in the art crime area influence.

816
00:42:38,760 --> 00:42:43,840
Speaker 1: I'm an emerging art thief in the Milwaukee area. So anyway,

817
00:42:43,960 --> 00:42:49,480
Speaker 1: he gets arrested. So now Salah is like, the whole

818
00:42:49,560 --> 00:42:53,040
Speaker 1: rank has been popped, right. The only one that we

819
00:42:53,120 --> 00:42:56,839
Speaker 1: don't have is the driver of the Scooby Doomnivan. We'll

820
00:42:56,840 --> 00:43:01,200
Speaker 1: get to her. She's still out there wrecking mayhem. But

821
00:43:01,719 --> 00:43:03,480
Speaker 1: the other thing we don't have is the Strata various.

822
00:43:03,640 --> 00:43:07,279
Speaker 1: It's not at his place either. Oh yeah, right, he

823
00:43:07,440 --> 00:43:12,520
Speaker 1: has van Well possibly. But the one good news is

824
00:43:12,640 --> 00:43:14,880
Speaker 1: a lot tells him that he hasn't sold it yet.

825
00:43:15,640 --> 00:43:17,000
Speaker 1: Oh so he's like, I'm not going to tell you

826
00:43:17,040 --> 00:43:18,600
Speaker 1: where it is that I haven't sold it yet. Yeah,

827
00:43:18,600 --> 00:43:20,279
Speaker 1: he wouldn't tell where it is. Like, but let's play

828
00:43:20,280 --> 00:43:22,640
Speaker 1: a little cat and mouse game. How about that? He's

829
00:43:24,080 --> 00:43:28,880
Speaker 1: like writing dialogue for his own screenplay, like imagining the

830
00:43:28,960 --> 00:43:30,560
Speaker 1: movie they're going to make of his life. He's like,

831
00:43:31,000 --> 00:43:32,400
Speaker 1: it'll be a great line for me, and it just

832
00:43:32,520 --> 00:43:35,839
Speaker 1: he just says it. By the way, I haven't told

833
00:43:35,840 --> 00:43:37,319
Speaker 1: you how old he is. He's a forty two year

834
00:43:37,360 --> 00:43:41,080
Speaker 1: old man, you know, the self described high end art thief,

835
00:43:41,600 --> 00:43:45,160
Speaker 1: single and looking to mingle and as he apparently just

836
00:43:45,400 --> 00:43:48,759
Speaker 1: is like a poetry professor to junior college. Okay, kind

837
00:43:48,800 --> 00:43:51,040
Speaker 1: of a tweetye look for him in the Milwaukee area

838
00:43:51,640 --> 00:43:54,680
Speaker 1: and uh, he was just loving every minute of his arrest.

839
00:43:54,960 --> 00:43:57,400
Speaker 1: I'm loving every minute of his arrest. He's been busted

840
00:43:57,480 --> 00:44:01,000
Speaker 1: once before, so he was through what well that guide

841
00:44:01,000 --> 00:44:03,839
Speaker 1: you asked. It wasn't a cat burglar job. It wasn't

842
00:44:03,880 --> 00:44:05,840
Speaker 1: like even a smashing grab at a jewelry store. Can

843
00:44:05,920 --> 00:44:10,160
Speaker 1: you guess what it was? Was it something super mundane. Yeah, good,

844
00:44:10,239 --> 00:44:13,320
Speaker 1: guess you're on the right track. Did he did he

845
00:44:13,480 --> 00:44:17,239
Speaker 1: have fake um Walmart gift cards? No? He stole a

846
00:44:17,719 --> 00:44:21,120
Speaker 1: statue from a gallery. Just walked into a gallery star statue.

847
00:44:21,440 --> 00:44:23,520
Speaker 1: Then he held onto it for a while until there

848
00:44:23,640 --> 00:44:26,120
Speaker 1: was like enough time to pass, and then he went

849
00:44:26,200 --> 00:44:28,040
Speaker 1: back and he tried to get a finder's fee for

850
00:44:28,200 --> 00:44:31,360
Speaker 1: the statue to the art gallery owner just called to

851
00:44:31,400 --> 00:44:33,920
Speaker 1: police on him. By the way, the statue was only

852
00:44:33,960 --> 00:44:41,960
Speaker 1: worth but the finder's fee is going to be generally right,

853
00:44:43,280 --> 00:44:45,240
Speaker 1: more than he had when he walked into that museum.

854
00:44:46,080 --> 00:44:48,160
Speaker 1: That's a good point. That's a really good point. I

855
00:44:48,200 --> 00:44:52,399
Speaker 1: don't know, you see you're the criminal mastermind. Yeah, I'm

856
00:44:52,440 --> 00:44:54,520
Speaker 1: looking at it wrong. I'm looking at it like effort

857
00:44:54,640 --> 00:44:58,120
Speaker 1: later that pure profit. Just just to come up right

858
00:44:58,160 --> 00:45:02,480
Speaker 1: there telling you, I'm so glad all these industry insider

859
00:45:02,600 --> 00:45:05,960
Speaker 1: terms you're familiarizing, you know what, for just for today,

860
00:45:06,160 --> 00:45:08,560
Speaker 1: I'm opening the doors. Yeah, I'm letting you see how

861
00:45:08,560 --> 00:45:10,239
Speaker 1: the sausage open the doors. You threw up in the

862
00:45:10,280 --> 00:45:12,560
Speaker 1: windows too, I see in the hole inside of the house. Yeah,

863
00:45:13,480 --> 00:45:16,400
Speaker 1: look how you all live now? As I told you,

864
00:45:16,440 --> 00:45:18,759
Speaker 1: just all I got busted, right, So he confessed to

865
00:45:18,800 --> 00:45:20,520
Speaker 1: the police, and I was like, oh yeah. When I

866
00:45:20,600 --> 00:45:22,680
Speaker 1: was inside, I was dreamed about my next art crime

867
00:45:22,960 --> 00:45:25,360
Speaker 1: and I was going to steal the Lepinsky and heid.

868
00:45:25,800 --> 00:45:28,080
Speaker 1: So he starts like fixating on it. In the Milwaukee

869
00:45:28,520 --> 00:45:31,240
Speaker 1: Journal Sentinel, they published a story in two thous about

870
00:45:31,360 --> 00:45:34,520
Speaker 1: the Lepinsky and being like given to Frank Almond, Like

871
00:45:34,560 --> 00:45:36,719
Speaker 1: when it got pasted and refurbished. Every time you say

872
00:45:36,800 --> 00:45:39,840
Speaker 1: Frank Alman, I think of it sounds like Almond Brothers,

873
00:45:40,000 --> 00:45:42,600
Speaker 1: Like it's different spelling, but go ahead, I'll try to

874
00:45:42,760 --> 00:45:48,960
Speaker 1: enunciate better. So Frank Almond, he became this fixation with

875
00:45:49,040 --> 00:45:52,240
Speaker 1: Salas Saladine gets out of jail, he becomes a fixation

876
00:45:52,280 --> 00:45:54,279
Speaker 1: because he's decided while he was behind bars, I'm gonna

877
00:45:54,280 --> 00:45:58,040
Speaker 1: steal the Lepinsky, right, So he then starts following Frank

878
00:45:58,080 --> 00:46:00,400
Speaker 1: Almond around. He knows what stores he's shot standing, he

879
00:46:00,400 --> 00:46:02,200
Speaker 1: knows a car he drives, he knows where he lives.

880
00:46:02,520 --> 00:46:05,120
Speaker 1: He knows like even his kid's names, his wife's names.

881
00:46:05,160 --> 00:46:08,960
Speaker 1: It's like he goes to one of his performances, he

882
00:46:09,160 --> 00:46:10,640
Speaker 1: makes note and he's like, I was the only black

883
00:46:10,680 --> 00:46:13,080
Speaker 1: face in there. I'm like, it's Milwaukee classical music. And

884
00:46:13,120 --> 00:46:16,080
Speaker 1: I'm not surprised, but I've been there, bro, I know

885
00:46:16,160 --> 00:46:18,359
Speaker 1: how it goes. You just want to go and see

886
00:46:18,400 --> 00:46:19,840
Speaker 1: Fidelio and all of a sudden you're just with the

887
00:46:19,880 --> 00:46:24,960
Speaker 1: silver hairs. But anyway, so Sala he finally manages to

888
00:46:25,400 --> 00:46:27,680
Speaker 1: find somebody's willing to help him with his heist. And

889
00:46:27,760 --> 00:46:30,000
Speaker 1: then this is where his man universal Knowledge a Lot

890
00:46:30,080 --> 00:46:31,880
Speaker 1: comes in when he says, yo, man, I'll buy you

891
00:46:31,960 --> 00:46:34,239
Speaker 1: a taser because that's the last piece he needs because

892
00:46:34,280 --> 00:46:36,680
Speaker 1: he can't get it on his own right. So he

893
00:46:36,840 --> 00:46:38,719
Speaker 1: tells the police this. He's like, yeah, man, so I

894
00:46:38,800 --> 00:46:40,399
Speaker 1: tell my bar but I need to I'm gonna rob

895
00:46:40,440 --> 00:46:43,840
Speaker 1: the local concertmaster for Stratius And the police are like huh,

896
00:46:43,920 --> 00:46:45,320
Speaker 1: go on and he's like yeah, and so then you

897
00:46:45,320 --> 00:46:46,920
Speaker 1: and he tells me to meet him at his barbershop

898
00:46:46,960 --> 00:46:48,520
Speaker 1: with the money and he can make it happen. So

899
00:46:48,600 --> 00:46:51,520
Speaker 1: he totally Universal Knowledge a Lot like the worst possible

900
00:46:51,600 --> 00:46:54,200
Speaker 1: partner for a heist. So the distruct attorneys off is

901
00:46:54,239 --> 00:46:56,239
Speaker 1: based on this information. They're like, okay, so I will

902
00:46:56,239 --> 00:46:58,279
Speaker 1: offer you a plea deal and he's He's like, but

903
00:46:58,640 --> 00:47:01,279
Speaker 1: only if you tell us where the strata areas is

904
00:47:01,400 --> 00:47:03,480
Speaker 1: that's our condition for the POLEAE deal and you also

905
00:47:03,520 --> 00:47:06,160
Speaker 1: have to plead guilty and he's like, I don't know

906
00:47:06,239 --> 00:47:09,200
Speaker 1: about that. You said yeah. He's like, you send it

907
00:47:09,239 --> 00:47:11,680
Speaker 1: over to me on paper and uh, I'll consider it.

908
00:47:11,680 --> 00:47:14,880
Speaker 1: And they're like okay. So he was also really counting

909
00:47:14,920 --> 00:47:17,479
Speaker 1: on that taser not being an enhanced charge. It turns

910
00:47:17,520 --> 00:47:20,040
Speaker 1: out that actually is armed robbery. So they're like, we'll

911
00:47:20,080 --> 00:47:23,520
Speaker 1: knock your armed robbery down to just robbery. And he's like, okay, bet,

912
00:47:24,080 --> 00:47:26,560
Speaker 1: it's like Milwaukee lawn or will knock your armed robbery

913
00:47:26,600 --> 00:47:31,840
Speaker 1: down to kind of armed, barely armed, barely just angry robbery.

914
00:47:33,280 --> 00:47:35,360
Speaker 1: So during one of his interrogations with the police, a

915
00:47:35,400 --> 00:47:38,719
Speaker 1: Lot tells the local Milwaukee police. He's like they're asking him, like,

916
00:47:38,800 --> 00:47:40,080
Speaker 1: what where are you going to get rid of the

917
00:47:40,120 --> 00:47:41,799
Speaker 1: strap man, Like what was your whole plan? He's, oh,

918
00:47:42,640 --> 00:47:46,359
Speaker 1: quote an Asian crime syndicate, that was his answer. They're

919
00:47:46,360 --> 00:47:50,080
Speaker 1: like he's like, yeah, I was working with this Asian

920
00:47:50,160 --> 00:47:52,680
Speaker 1: syndicate man numerous times. You you probably don't even know

921
00:47:52,760 --> 00:47:55,160
Speaker 1: these dudes, you know, they're just they're in the Chicago area.

922
00:47:55,560 --> 00:47:58,120
Speaker 1: So he blames him on this Asian crime syndicate working

923
00:47:58,120 --> 00:47:59,880
Speaker 1: out of the Chicago area that he was going to

924
00:48:00,000 --> 00:48:02,320
Speaker 1: sell the stolen Stratavarius too, but then he had a

925
00:48:02,440 --> 00:48:05,280
Speaker 1: change of heart. He's just like, you know what, forget

926
00:48:05,440 --> 00:48:08,160
Speaker 1: Chicago and the Asian Crime Syndicate. They don't deserve the

927
00:48:08,239 --> 00:48:11,400
Speaker 1: strata areas. The Pinsk is a treasure of Milwaukee, and

928
00:48:11,440 --> 00:48:13,960
Speaker 1: so he wanted to keep it in Milwaukee. They didn't

929
00:48:13,960 --> 00:48:16,640
Speaker 1: want to. Come on, I'm not going to give it

930
00:48:16,719 --> 00:48:21,319
Speaker 1: to the Chicago Yakusa. The Milwaukee accousa gets it, he said,

931
00:48:22,400 --> 00:48:24,040
Speaker 1: He's like, I stole and I want it becomes like

932
00:48:24,120 --> 00:48:26,920
Speaker 1: thet It's an obsession. It's like the my precious. He's like,

933
00:48:26,960 --> 00:48:28,920
Speaker 1: I'm not going to give it up. He wants to

934
00:48:29,000 --> 00:48:32,040
Speaker 1: kiss it the way that you want to kiss Stratabarius

935
00:48:32,080 --> 00:48:35,200
Speaker 1: kissed it. So the d A offers him his deal

936
00:48:35,520 --> 00:48:37,359
Speaker 1: and he goes and he says, I'll tell the police

937
00:48:37,400 --> 00:48:40,040
Speaker 1: where it is. It takes them three days to get

938
00:48:40,120 --> 00:48:42,480
Speaker 1: him to agree. They interrogate him for three days even

939
00:48:42,480 --> 00:48:44,560
Speaker 1: though he keeps agreeing he will not tell us where

940
00:48:44,600 --> 00:48:48,480
Speaker 1: the strata. He's like, yeah, I'll totally tell you. I'm

941
00:48:48,520 --> 00:48:50,480
Speaker 1: totally gonna tell you. What's for lunch? What are we

942
00:48:50,520 --> 00:48:52,279
Speaker 1: doing for lunch. You guys, you know I'll tell you.

943
00:48:53,080 --> 00:48:56,279
Speaker 1: I'm like, okay, tell us now, I'm gonna tell I mean, like,

944
00:48:56,640 --> 00:48:58,600
Speaker 1: I totally am. I just do we have a pencil

945
00:48:58,600 --> 00:49:00,719
Speaker 1: and paper? Not that pound of pen Actually I need

946
00:49:00,760 --> 00:49:03,359
Speaker 1: a pen. So he's like stretching it out for three days.

947
00:49:03,400 --> 00:49:08,920
Speaker 1: Can imagine that for three days. I would get so frustrated. Yeah, exactly.

948
00:49:09,040 --> 00:49:11,760
Speaker 1: But the d A, the cops, they definitely get frustrated.

949
00:49:11,800 --> 00:49:13,480
Speaker 1: Finally the third day, and I'm not implying that the

950
00:49:14,360 --> 00:49:19,839
Speaker 1: third day, yeah, the confession. So the confession comes out

951
00:49:20,000 --> 00:49:23,080
Speaker 1: and he says, okay, I'll take you to the apartment.

952
00:49:23,160 --> 00:49:24,840
Speaker 1: It's not his apartment. He takes it over to this

953
00:49:24,920 --> 00:49:27,560
Speaker 1: apartment and he's got the the Pinsky stashed that's where

954
00:49:27,560 --> 00:49:30,439
Speaker 1: the galapal lives that he goes. That's on the second floor.

955
00:49:30,640 --> 00:49:32,560
Speaker 1: And then he indicates he's like, yeah up there, and

956
00:49:32,680 --> 00:49:34,120
Speaker 1: it's like a door to the attic and the cops

957
00:49:34,160 --> 00:49:36,120
Speaker 1: are like, is this a booby trap? Did they get

958
00:49:36,160 --> 00:49:38,200
Speaker 1: one of the swat guys to go up there? Because

959
00:49:38,880 --> 00:49:42,560
Speaker 1: he gets tasered in the face and there's concetti and surprised.

960
00:49:43,480 --> 00:49:47,480
Speaker 1: So this specially they sent up guy special investigator who's

961
00:49:47,480 --> 00:49:49,400
Speaker 1: trained with art crime and he's got on like the

962
00:49:49,440 --> 00:49:51,520
Speaker 1: white gloves, and so he goes up into the attic

963
00:49:52,120 --> 00:49:54,239
Speaker 1: and he finds a black suitcase. Up, we got a

964
00:49:54,239 --> 00:49:56,200
Speaker 1: black suitcase. We got a black suitcase. People, and they're

965
00:49:56,239 --> 00:49:58,279
Speaker 1: like all excited. And then he goes over and he

966
00:49:58,360 --> 00:50:01,800
Speaker 1: opens a black suitcase and in the black suitcase is

967
00:50:01,840 --> 00:50:06,760
Speaker 1: a bundle size of top. And inside of this bundle

968
00:50:07,400 --> 00:50:10,840
Speaker 1: is a blue baby blanket. And inside the blue baby

969
00:50:13,120 --> 00:50:16,880
Speaker 1: is the lipinski. Yeay, I was so worried there's be

970
00:50:16,960 --> 00:50:20,719
Speaker 1: something else in the seventeen fifteen Strata Barius was unharmed,

971
00:50:21,239 --> 00:50:23,960
Speaker 1: and Chief Flynn told the local news it was handled

972
00:50:24,040 --> 00:50:30,000
Speaker 1: like a baby, except we didn't powder it. He thought

973
00:50:30,040 --> 00:50:32,040
Speaker 1: of that line. I'm telling you, everybody's working on this

974
00:50:32,120 --> 00:50:35,040
Speaker 1: great cooking that line in his head, and because he

975
00:50:35,120 --> 00:50:37,440
Speaker 1: saw the baby blanket and he was like, you know,

976
00:50:37,560 --> 00:50:41,759
Speaker 1: with my my, my genius creative talent. Immediately if it

977
00:50:41,840 --> 00:50:44,960
Speaker 1: went to that, he flipped. He work shopped it in

978
00:50:45,040 --> 00:50:47,160
Speaker 1: his head as a former dad or you know, I

979
00:50:47,200 --> 00:50:52,399
Speaker 1: guess I still am a dad. So at the time

980
00:50:52,480 --> 00:50:55,359
Speaker 1: of their arrests Law forty two Universal Knowledge of Law

981
00:50:55,520 --> 00:51:00,520
Speaker 1: thirty six, both popped. A law actually gets charged with

982
00:51:00,640 --> 00:51:03,280
Speaker 1: extra stuff because of the marijuana that the cops found.

983
00:51:03,880 --> 00:51:05,680
Speaker 1: So he also gets busted for not just helping to

984
00:51:05,680 --> 00:51:08,560
Speaker 1: steal Little the pinskey, but also for small time pot dealer,

985
00:51:09,480 --> 00:51:11,680
Speaker 1: and he gets sentenced three and a half years in prison.

986
00:51:12,040 --> 00:51:14,680
Speaker 1: Oh well, the woman who was the getaway driver of

987
00:51:14,680 --> 00:51:17,040
Speaker 1: the Scooby Doo looking mini days, what's her story? So

988
00:51:17,280 --> 00:51:19,879
Speaker 1: she gets charged with nothing. She does not get charged

989
00:51:19,880 --> 00:51:21,759
Speaker 1: with the Robbie. Turns out she's the law's wife, so

990
00:51:21,840 --> 00:51:28,399
Speaker 1: they assumed that she was just kind of draft. She's

991
00:51:28,440 --> 00:51:31,839
Speaker 1: kind of put up with this dude, like, ma'am, you've

992
00:51:31,840 --> 00:51:37,120
Speaker 1: suffered las Aladine. He goes through a series of lawyers,

993
00:51:37,160 --> 00:51:39,640
Speaker 1: if you can believe it, who hate to his trial.

994
00:51:40,080 --> 00:51:43,279
Speaker 1: He's apparently a nightmare client and I'm surprised he's not

995
00:51:43,440 --> 00:51:48,080
Speaker 1: doing pro se. Well no, yeah, exactly, I'm surprised too. Instead,

996
00:51:48,320 --> 00:51:51,040
Speaker 1: he decides to give a vice interview in the middle

997
00:51:51,120 --> 00:51:56,279
Speaker 1: of his child, which totally implicates him. He confesses in

998
00:51:56,400 --> 00:52:00,319
Speaker 1: print essentially, so yeah, his chances that justice really zero

999
00:52:00,400 --> 00:52:02,600
Speaker 1: after that, and so he gets convicted of robbery and

1000
00:52:02,719 --> 00:52:06,320
Speaker 1: sentenced to seven years in prison. In court, Sala actually

1001
00:52:06,400 --> 00:52:10,160
Speaker 1: explains why he wanted to steal the Lepinsky and what

1002
00:52:10,239 --> 00:52:11,880
Speaker 1: it felt like for him to actually hold it in

1003
00:52:12,000 --> 00:52:14,239
Speaker 1: that moment after all these years of him dreaming of

1004
00:52:14,320 --> 00:52:17,719
Speaker 1: holding the Lepinski. Right, so, Sala tells the court, I

1005
00:52:17,760 --> 00:52:19,840
Speaker 1: got the violin in my hand, almost as if it

1006
00:52:19,880 --> 00:52:22,680
Speaker 1: were handed to me, and I pressed that button and

1007
00:52:22,760 --> 00:52:25,040
Speaker 1: my life changed at that moment. Just says it probably

1008
00:52:25,120 --> 00:52:27,160
Speaker 1: did for him now when he says the button, that's

1009
00:52:27,200 --> 00:52:29,879
Speaker 1: the taser, and he says he that's Frank Almon. So, yeah,

1010
00:52:30,320 --> 00:52:36,520
Speaker 1: so the button exactly. And so I went on. He's like,

1011
00:52:36,880 --> 00:52:39,360
Speaker 1: I wanted to buy as many boarded up properties that

1012
00:52:39,400 --> 00:52:42,239
Speaker 1: I could have bought. She perhaps rehabilitate those homes and

1013
00:52:42,320 --> 00:52:45,360
Speaker 1: create some jobs for people. So he claims that he

1014
00:52:45,440 --> 00:52:48,520
Speaker 1: wanted to do some like like you know, neighborhood renovation

1015
00:52:48,680 --> 00:52:52,960
Speaker 1: based on the settling the Lepinski to the Chinese organized

1016
00:52:52,960 --> 00:52:55,279
Speaker 1: crime gang down in Chicago. That was his plan. That

1017
00:52:55,440 --> 00:52:58,560
Speaker 1: was a Chinese organized crime I misspoke well, and actually no,

1018
00:52:58,680 --> 00:53:01,040
Speaker 1: it could have been Asian. I he said Asian. I

1019
00:53:01,160 --> 00:53:03,880
Speaker 1: just said Chinese, and I didn't want to pin it

1020
00:53:03,960 --> 00:53:07,239
Speaker 1: on any one group Unlike me. I don't think he

1021
00:53:07,520 --> 00:53:10,319
Speaker 1: knew any Asian crime syndicate. I don't think he did either.

1022
00:53:10,600 --> 00:53:13,440
Speaker 1: I think maybe he spoke with a fellow on the

1023
00:53:13,600 --> 00:53:17,279
Speaker 1: subway once and he'd actually he'd watch some movies. Yeah,

1024
00:53:18,440 --> 00:53:20,520
Speaker 1: he's thinking about, like I don't know, Rush Hour two

1025
00:53:20,640 --> 00:53:23,480
Speaker 1: or something like hero narrative of I'm you know, I'm

1026
00:53:23,480 --> 00:53:25,200
Speaker 1: going to sell it and I'm gonna buy all these

1027
00:53:26,120 --> 00:53:28,360
Speaker 1: boarded up buildings. And it's like they're going to close

1028
00:53:28,440 --> 00:53:31,480
Speaker 1: the community center unless we steal the strata area. We

1029
00:53:31,640 --> 00:53:33,600
Speaker 1: need to put on a show. That's not enough money.

1030
00:53:33,719 --> 00:53:36,319
Speaker 1: We need to steal a strat and then it's been

1031
00:53:36,400 --> 00:53:38,160
Speaker 1: saved and all the kids have a place to go

1032
00:53:38,239 --> 00:53:42,640
Speaker 1: after school. We saved the orphanage. So Judge Maroney presides

1033
00:53:42,640 --> 00:53:46,880
Speaker 1: over the trial. When my man tried to go on

1034
00:53:47,040 --> 00:53:49,759
Speaker 1: like his whole like I'm actually a noble criminal, the

1035
00:53:49,920 --> 00:53:52,480
Speaker 1: judges like, nah, bro, that may sound like a noble thing.

1036
00:53:52,560 --> 00:53:54,440
Speaker 1: You may even sound like some robin Hood issue to you,

1037
00:53:54,680 --> 00:53:57,200
Speaker 1: but it's not the way it is. But I say,

1038
00:53:57,640 --> 00:54:05,640
Speaker 1: what if it is wild? Okay? But anyway on all honestly,

1039
00:54:05,680 --> 00:54:07,600
Speaker 1: at least sometimes it could be that way, right, Like

1040
00:54:07,800 --> 00:54:09,560
Speaker 1: you couldn't get some robin Hood stuff going on in

1041
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Speaker 1: the world taste. The guy. You know, you can't hurt

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Speaker 1: people if you're going to do the robin Hood thing. Yeah, no,

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Speaker 1: I I agree that, like you, I support him. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: the tasting is really so you've resually been cool with it.

1045
00:54:24,560 --> 00:54:27,279
Speaker 1: He just ran up and grabbed his wipe it off

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Speaker 1: his shoulder and he didn't get hurt. And he's like,

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00:54:30,160 --> 00:54:33,040
Speaker 1: he runs up all football guys, Todd he got the

1048
00:54:33,200 --> 00:54:37,920
Speaker 1: violins and then he runs away, all scattering across and

1049
00:54:38,000 --> 00:54:42,279
Speaker 1: you're like, well, you know someone's rich enough to have

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Speaker 1: a five million strata areas five million dollars. He's not rich.

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00:54:45,600 --> 00:54:49,719
Speaker 1: He's doing his buddy's driving. Ah, these are not his exactly,

1052
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Speaker 1: he's borrowing reached with experience. There a lot of violins

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Speaker 1: in the world. I don't know why there's only six

1054
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Speaker 1: hundred fifty of the strata. Well, I'm talking about other kinds. No, Well,

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Speaker 1: it's been quite an adventure, which by man sala saladine

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Speaker 1: and universal knowledge a law which you know that's missed,

1057
00:55:11,440 --> 00:55:13,719
Speaker 1: a law if you're nasty or if you're the law.

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Speaker 1: Uh now, I know it wasn't horrible nine days for

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Speaker 1: Frank Almond, as you've pointed out, and it was a

1060
00:55:19,600 --> 00:55:22,640
Speaker 1: rough go him being separated, but it's been hilarious hour

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00:55:22,760 --> 00:55:25,480
Speaker 1: for me, I know, And I'm sorry for your troubles,

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00:55:26,000 --> 00:55:30,200
Speaker 1: Mr Almond, but it's he's fine though. He got it back.

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00:55:31,080 --> 00:55:35,080
Speaker 1: Yeah exactly. It wasn't covered in shoe pollen. Yeah, it

1064
00:55:35,160 --> 00:55:37,600
Speaker 1: just smelled like apple Jackson. So what do you say

1065
00:55:37,719 --> 00:55:41,319
Speaker 1: is our ridiculous takeaway? Here? I say, if you are

1066
00:55:41,440 --> 00:55:46,440
Speaker 1: going to go full tilt on making yourself into an

1067
00:55:46,480 --> 00:55:51,120
Speaker 1: international art thieves, you have to do it the way

1068
00:55:51,200 --> 00:55:54,840
Speaker 1: that this guy did of just all the embellishments and

1069
00:55:54,920 --> 00:55:58,680
Speaker 1: the grandios. You know, there's a lot of grandiosity going

1070
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Speaker 1: over because I'm thinking, oh, if you've heard of me,

1071
00:56:01,400 --> 00:56:03,359
Speaker 1: that's why he came for me, because everyone knows I'm

1072
00:56:03,400 --> 00:56:06,400
Speaker 1: this crazy art thief. He just he just picked up

1073
00:56:06,440 --> 00:56:08,840
Speaker 1: a statue and walked out of a place. That's what

1074
00:56:08,880 --> 00:56:10,560
Speaker 1: made him a high end art. But then you also

1075
00:56:10,680 --> 00:56:17,160
Speaker 1: have with this like thinking of these fans. No for us, No, no,

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Speaker 1: I'm just trying to get to Danny's please please. I

1077
00:56:19,120 --> 00:56:22,960
Speaker 1: couldn't possibly that again. I love all of them, and

1078
00:56:23,239 --> 00:56:25,839
Speaker 1: I want everything good to happen to all of them.

1079
00:56:27,280 --> 00:56:29,440
Speaker 1: I like that about you. I agree with you that

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00:56:29,520 --> 00:56:32,000
Speaker 1: my favorite moment is the but my reputation is a

1081
00:56:32,040 --> 00:56:34,360
Speaker 1: high end art thief. That's why you've come. I correct

1082
00:56:34,480 --> 00:56:36,520
Speaker 1: when he's all excited when the cops show up at

1083
00:56:36,560 --> 00:56:38,239
Speaker 1: his door. But I think you know it's better than

1084
00:56:38,320 --> 00:56:43,440
Speaker 1: that amateur barber and temperware salesman tepper consultant place is

1085
00:56:43,520 --> 00:56:48,000
Speaker 1: the best job title description someone doing my taxes from

1086
00:56:48,040 --> 00:56:52,040
Speaker 1: now on with my whatcher occupation top were consulting amateur

1087
00:56:52,120 --> 00:56:57,120
Speaker 1: barber a diver. I also like about how solid being

1088
00:56:57,239 --> 00:57:00,279
Speaker 1: like all into his reputation. He knew he had to

1089
00:57:00,360 --> 00:57:03,239
Speaker 1: get caught. He was always a future failed criminal because

1090
00:57:03,280 --> 00:57:05,399
Speaker 1: that's the only way that his reputation would get known.

1091
00:57:05,640 --> 00:57:07,480
Speaker 1: Because how many high end art thieves do we know

1092
00:57:07,560 --> 00:57:09,320
Speaker 1: about who haven't been caught? And he wanted to be

1093
00:57:10,080 --> 00:57:12,200
Speaker 1: so he was always planning for the moment he would

1094
00:57:12,200 --> 00:57:14,520
Speaker 1: get busted. That's when he made the notebook. He's like,

1095
00:57:14,600 --> 00:57:16,440
Speaker 1: look here it is. He's all organized. But then he

1096
00:57:16,520 --> 00:57:20,840
Speaker 1: can spend his time in prison writing up the memoir

1097
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Speaker 1: in the screen playing. Good point, very good point. I

1098
00:57:23,440 --> 00:57:26,880
Speaker 1: think he gets out uninterrupted right around now seven years. Well,

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Speaker 1: let's wait, let's let's see. Well, as we always say,

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Speaker 1: around here crime is ridiculous that we always say I

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00:57:38,200 --> 00:57:43,040
Speaker 1: love crying. So for talking about you telling your story,

1102
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Speaker 1: it means you've probably done something wrong and you're criminal

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00:57:45,360 --> 00:57:48,880
Speaker 1: planned and things got ridiculous, So try not to have

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Speaker 1: us know your name. Thanks for joining us. I'm Elizabeth Dutton.

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Speaker 1: I could be there in Burnett. Try it on. You

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Speaker 1: can find us online a Ridiculous Crime on both Twitter

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Speaker 1: and Instagram. You've got a tip force about a ridiculous

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Speaker 1: crime you'd like to hear about, you can turn into

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Speaker 1: a story just like this one. I want to confess

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Speaker 1: to Ridiculous Crime, please do email us at ridiculous Crime

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Speaker 1: at gmail dot com. Thanks for listening well, Thank you.

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Speaker 1: Ridiculous Crime is hosted by Elizabeth Dutton and Zarin Burnett,

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Speaker 1: produced and edited by high End Sound Thief Dave Coustin.

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Speaker 1: Research is by special investigator from the Facts Crime Team,

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Speaker 1: Marissa Brown. The theme song is by Thomas Cosmic Lee

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Speaker 1: and Travis universal Love. Dutton. Executive producers are Ben the

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