1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:03,160 Speaker 1: Thank you for coming back. Part two is underway. 2 00:00:03,360 --> 00:00:06,200 Speaker 2: With all these matches, you know, you have ladder matches, 3 00:00:06,240 --> 00:00:10,560 Speaker 2: table chairs, all that. I mean, I understand it's there's 4 00:00:10,560 --> 00:00:15,720 Speaker 2: a certain choreograph choreography to it, but still that stuff 5 00:00:15,800 --> 00:00:16,720 Speaker 2: hurt very much. 6 00:00:17,160 --> 00:00:17,720 Speaker 1: Charlotte Flair. 7 00:00:17,760 --> 00:00:20,880 Speaker 2: We had Charlotte Flaiir on earlier in September and she 8 00:00:21,000 --> 00:00:23,040 Speaker 2: was talking about that she tore in ACL and she's 9 00:00:23,040 --> 00:00:25,440 Speaker 2: still finished. She had to wrestle another thirty forty five minutes. 10 00:00:25,520 --> 00:00:27,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean that's probably an exaggeration on her behalf. 11 00:00:28,120 --> 00:00:28,360 Speaker 1: She did. 12 00:00:28,440 --> 00:00:30,840 Speaker 3: She did tear an ACL and have to finish her match. 13 00:00:30,920 --> 00:00:33,159 Speaker 2: Yeah, but when you when you hurt something, or you 14 00:00:33,320 --> 00:00:35,880 Speaker 2: you tearing that ductor or you pull a hamstring or 15 00:00:35,960 --> 00:00:38,360 Speaker 2: something like that in the match of schedule, you know, 16 00:00:38,479 --> 00:00:40,720 Speaker 2: one fall for a fifteen minute time living. 17 00:00:40,760 --> 00:00:41,839 Speaker 1: You know, it used to say that. 18 00:00:41,880 --> 00:00:43,720 Speaker 2: I don't know how much the time limits are now, 19 00:00:43,960 --> 00:00:46,520 Speaker 2: but in a situation like that, when you know something 20 00:00:46,640 --> 00:00:48,400 Speaker 2: is going on and you have to finish the match, 21 00:00:48,600 --> 00:00:49,559 Speaker 2: that's got to be difficult. 22 00:00:49,600 --> 00:00:49,800 Speaker 1: Though. 23 00:00:50,479 --> 00:00:55,480 Speaker 4: Yeah, I think it's one of those things where, gosh, 24 00:00:55,600 --> 00:00:58,040 Speaker 4: you know, I'm trying to kind of like li liken 25 00:00:58,120 --> 00:00:59,040 Speaker 4: it to a football injury. 26 00:00:59,040 --> 00:00:59,920 Speaker 3: But you know there's play. 27 00:01:00,240 --> 00:01:02,200 Speaker 2: Now you get injured, you coming out the field, yeah, yeah, 28 00:01:02,240 --> 00:01:07,840 Speaker 2: you think it quarter, third quarter, yeah, come out of yeah, 29 00:01:07,840 --> 00:01:09,200 Speaker 2: you get there's a play and you're gone. 30 00:01:09,240 --> 00:01:10,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's done. It stops. 31 00:01:10,600 --> 00:01:13,200 Speaker 4: That's the thing is with us when we get hurt, 32 00:01:13,600 --> 00:01:17,200 Speaker 4: Like there's like a self evaluation process that happens. And 33 00:01:17,240 --> 00:01:19,520 Speaker 4: because like you know, I mean, the NFL plays what 34 00:01:19,640 --> 00:01:20,520 Speaker 4: seven seconds. 35 00:01:20,280 --> 00:01:22,080 Speaker 3: Or something like that, boom, you know, you leave me. 36 00:01:22,319 --> 00:01:23,080 Speaker 3: It's like, oh, that's it. 37 00:01:23,160 --> 00:01:25,920 Speaker 4: Now I'm evaluating. I'm gonna go to the sideline and evaluate. 38 00:01:26,120 --> 00:01:28,080 Speaker 4: But we have to evaluate kind of in real time, 39 00:01:28,200 --> 00:01:30,280 Speaker 4: like we have to. It's not a sprint like that. 40 00:01:30,360 --> 00:01:33,399 Speaker 4: It's a bit longer. So like if something happens, you know. 41 00:01:34,160 --> 00:01:36,399 Speaker 4: My shoulder is a great example of that. So I'm 42 00:01:36,440 --> 00:01:38,440 Speaker 4: wrestling Cody Roads in the main event of a pay 43 00:01:38,480 --> 00:01:41,800 Speaker 4: per view in Perth, Australia October. I do this move 44 00:01:41,840 --> 00:01:44,200 Speaker 4: that I've never really done where I dive from one 45 00:01:44,240 --> 00:01:46,759 Speaker 4: side of the court ring to the other and give 46 00:01:46,800 --> 00:01:49,240 Speaker 4: Cody a head butt and I land funky. So I 47 00:01:49,320 --> 00:01:51,400 Speaker 4: land like on my elbow kind of off to the side, 48 00:01:51,600 --> 00:01:54,360 Speaker 4: pushes my shoulder up and it hurt. But I didn't 49 00:01:54,400 --> 00:01:57,160 Speaker 4: know how bad it was hurt in the moment, so 50 00:01:57,880 --> 00:02:00,559 Speaker 4: I hit him, I cover, he kicks out. I'm laying 51 00:02:00,600 --> 00:02:02,920 Speaker 4: there and then I just run myself check while the 52 00:02:02,960 --> 00:02:05,440 Speaker 4: audience is, you know, kind of they're going through the 53 00:02:05,480 --> 00:02:07,920 Speaker 4: replays and everything. We're moving on to the next thing. 54 00:02:07,920 --> 00:02:09,560 Speaker 4: But you got to give the audience tim to digest. 55 00:02:09,600 --> 00:02:11,760 Speaker 4: So you're just sitting there in the process, and I go, Okay, 56 00:02:11,760 --> 00:02:14,359 Speaker 4: I hurt my shoulder. How bad did I hurt my shoulder? 57 00:02:14,520 --> 00:02:16,600 Speaker 4: Is there anything left in the match that I can't 58 00:02:16,600 --> 00:02:18,600 Speaker 4: do or that it's going to be dangerous for me 59 00:02:19,000 --> 00:02:21,679 Speaker 4: or dangerous for my opponent, or that I'm going to 60 00:02:21,760 --> 00:02:24,160 Speaker 4: make look bad? Like do I cut stuff out? And 61 00:02:24,280 --> 00:02:26,640 Speaker 4: we just go let's get to the end of the match. 62 00:02:26,880 --> 00:02:30,239 Speaker 4: What's the process here? And when it's like a kind 63 00:02:30,280 --> 00:02:33,760 Speaker 4: of a ligament type injury like that, again, I didn't 64 00:02:33,760 --> 00:02:35,400 Speaker 4: know what was wrong with it. I was like, Okay, 65 00:02:35,440 --> 00:02:37,480 Speaker 4: here's the things I can do. I've probably got about 66 00:02:37,480 --> 00:02:40,120 Speaker 4: ten to fifteen more minutes of this match. I'll get 67 00:02:40,160 --> 00:02:42,840 Speaker 4: through it and then we'll figure out what happens. I'm 68 00:02:42,840 --> 00:02:44,400 Speaker 4: not really going to know till I get a scan, 69 00:02:44,480 --> 00:02:46,240 Speaker 4: and I'm not putting Cody in any danger. 70 00:02:46,520 --> 00:02:48,600 Speaker 3: So I think I can get this done. 71 00:02:48,680 --> 00:02:48,840 Speaker 1: Now. 72 00:02:48,880 --> 00:02:51,600 Speaker 4: There's some times where it's like you'll get a concussion 73 00:02:51,680 --> 00:02:53,840 Speaker 4: or you'll see somebody get a concussion. Unfortunately, not in 74 00:02:54,160 --> 00:02:57,919 Speaker 4: this position. You get a concussion, the ref sees that happen. 75 00:02:57,800 --> 00:03:00,640 Speaker 3: And that's it. It's done. Like they just called match off. 76 00:03:00,919 --> 00:03:03,560 Speaker 4: Young fella named Javon Evans just had this happen to him, 77 00:03:03,680 --> 00:03:05,640 Speaker 4: like maybe two weeks ago on Monday night, raw I 78 00:03:05,680 --> 00:03:09,600 Speaker 4: butted heads with his opponent. You know, he got concussed. 79 00:03:09,840 --> 00:03:11,679 Speaker 4: There was a little bit of like, hey, hey, what's 80 00:03:11,720 --> 00:03:13,679 Speaker 4: going on. They kind of let him walk through a 81 00:03:13,760 --> 00:03:15,800 Speaker 4: little bit of the rest of the match while he 82 00:03:15,880 --> 00:03:18,760 Speaker 4: was out there, and then it became apparent that he wasn't. 83 00:03:19,760 --> 00:03:20,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, he wasn't himself. 84 00:03:20,880 --> 00:03:24,160 Speaker 4: So they just that's it, winner by ref stoppage and 85 00:03:24,200 --> 00:03:27,240 Speaker 4: that's it. And so it's just communication. Communicate to your referee, 86 00:03:27,280 --> 00:03:29,359 Speaker 4: communicate to your opponent. You just try to figure out 87 00:03:29,400 --> 00:03:31,560 Speaker 4: what the best course of action is. And again, when 88 00:03:31,600 --> 00:03:34,480 Speaker 4: it's something like that, like a concussion, where you can't 89 00:03:34,520 --> 00:03:37,560 Speaker 4: self diagnose really because you're rock somebody. 90 00:03:37,760 --> 00:03:39,960 Speaker 3: We have people in the doctors. 91 00:03:40,160 --> 00:03:43,080 Speaker 4: Yeah, we have everybody watching to make sure no, no, no, 92 00:03:43,160 --> 00:03:45,000 Speaker 4: get him out of there. When it's something like that 93 00:03:45,040 --> 00:03:47,760 Speaker 4: where you can't my shoulder or like Charlotte's knee, I 94 00:03:47,840 --> 00:03:50,920 Speaker 4: or mine as well, when you can't really see what's happening, 95 00:03:50,960 --> 00:03:52,680 Speaker 4: you just have to rely on the talent to try 96 00:03:52,680 --> 00:03:55,720 Speaker 4: to figure out what's best for the situation. 97 00:03:56,080 --> 00:03:59,600 Speaker 2: In a situation where like you broke Johnsen a nodes 98 00:03:59,880 --> 00:04:04,200 Speaker 2: or something, you guys are wrestling and it's an accident, 99 00:04:04,280 --> 00:04:07,560 Speaker 2: but you know, things happen. Yeah, who is that said? 100 00:04:07,800 --> 00:04:09,720 Speaker 2: I think they said it's called keeping receipts when you 101 00:04:09,760 --> 00:04:12,880 Speaker 2: do something, will you will you do when you do 102 00:04:13,000 --> 00:04:15,600 Speaker 2: something to somebody that goes a little other than it 103 00:04:15,600 --> 00:04:16,160 Speaker 2: should have been. 104 00:04:16,279 --> 00:04:18,920 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah, there's a receipts, But receipts are generally 105 00:04:18,960 --> 00:04:20,799 Speaker 4: for when things might be a little on purpose. 106 00:04:21,160 --> 00:04:23,080 Speaker 3: That John thing was a complete accent. 107 00:04:22,800 --> 00:04:26,159 Speaker 4: Okay if if I mean, look, John's got ham hands. 108 00:04:26,160 --> 00:04:28,760 Speaker 4: He's punched so many people on the side of the head. 109 00:04:28,880 --> 00:04:32,479 Speaker 4: Like it's you know, he understands sometimes things happen. You know, 110 00:04:32,560 --> 00:04:35,800 Speaker 4: they we say it's not ballet, you know, no discredit 111 00:04:35,800 --> 00:04:39,239 Speaker 4: to ballet. Ballet is hard, but yeah, it's not ballet, 112 00:04:39,320 --> 00:04:43,039 Speaker 4: Like it's the physical interaction, so things happen, and no, 113 00:04:43,600 --> 00:04:46,200 Speaker 4: for the most part, there's not a lot of bad blood. 114 00:04:46,960 --> 00:04:51,599 Speaker 4: But occasionally someone will get a stray shot in there 115 00:04:51,960 --> 00:04:52,640 Speaker 4: where you're. 116 00:04:52,440 --> 00:04:58,480 Speaker 2: Like, what was what was that all that intentional? Or yeah, 117 00:04:58,640 --> 00:05:00,000 Speaker 2: I think it was intentional. I'm gonna pay you. 118 00:05:00,279 --> 00:05:00,440 Speaker 1: Yeah. 119 00:05:00,520 --> 00:05:02,640 Speaker 4: Yeah, but you I mean, I'm sure on the field 120 00:05:02,760 --> 00:05:06,080 Speaker 4: you have those too, Yeah, because there's you know, it's 121 00:05:06,160 --> 00:05:09,440 Speaker 4: again physical sport, and there's rules and there's like, you know, 122 00:05:09,560 --> 00:05:11,800 Speaker 4: competitive edge, and you guys are I mean, how many 123 00:05:11,920 --> 00:05:14,599 Speaker 4: dbs or linebackers did you get into where you're like, 124 00:05:15,279 --> 00:05:17,240 Speaker 4: okay that I ain't I ain't cool. 125 00:05:17,320 --> 00:05:19,719 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I know when there's a good clean tackle, 126 00:05:20,040 --> 00:05:22,320 Speaker 2: you cheap shot of me exactly turned. I'mnna get your 127 00:05:22,360 --> 00:05:24,560 Speaker 2: ads back and forth of the play, and I will 128 00:05:24,600 --> 00:05:26,040 Speaker 2: make it look like an actual play. 129 00:05:26,080 --> 00:05:27,800 Speaker 3: But I guess what, I know, I'm gonna get mine. 130 00:05:27,800 --> 00:05:29,200 Speaker 1: I will get I will get my leak back. 131 00:05:29,240 --> 00:05:29,400 Speaker 3: Yeah. 132 00:05:29,480 --> 00:05:31,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, But you have a great relationship with John, I do, 133 00:05:31,839 --> 00:05:35,640 Speaker 2: and and John is finishing up, He's done forty eight. 134 00:05:36,120 --> 00:05:37,120 Speaker 1: You want to wrestle that long? 135 00:05:37,480 --> 00:05:38,200 Speaker 3: Yeah? Maybe? 136 00:05:38,680 --> 00:05:42,000 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, I'm I'm forty in a couple of months, 137 00:05:42,360 --> 00:05:43,599 Speaker 4: and I feel great. 138 00:05:44,040 --> 00:05:44,800 Speaker 3: I mean what I. 139 00:05:44,800 --> 00:05:47,080 Speaker 4: Would consider the prime of my career, where like the 140 00:05:47,080 --> 00:05:50,320 Speaker 4: physical hasn't declined and the mental is as sharp as 141 00:05:50,320 --> 00:05:53,159 Speaker 4: it's you know, ever been right, And so I would 142 00:05:53,440 --> 00:05:57,120 Speaker 4: as long as I can continue to contribute in a 143 00:05:57,160 --> 00:06:00,880 Speaker 4: way that's positive for our fan base and for our 144 00:06:00,960 --> 00:06:03,599 Speaker 4: younger talent, as long as I can continue to be 145 00:06:04,040 --> 00:06:07,440 Speaker 4: like make the product better, then I think I would 146 00:06:07,480 --> 00:06:10,400 Speaker 4: like to contribute, and my body cooperates, I would like 147 00:06:10,440 --> 00:06:11,360 Speaker 4: to continue to do it. 148 00:06:12,400 --> 00:06:15,919 Speaker 1: Who's your Mount Rushmore WWE Wrestlers Mount Rushmore? 149 00:06:16,160 --> 00:06:19,159 Speaker 4: Oh man, that's so hard because you get into this 150 00:06:19,240 --> 00:06:22,120 Speaker 4: trap of like in ring talent guys who were just 151 00:06:22,240 --> 00:06:25,320 Speaker 4: great wrestlers, and then you get into you know, money, right, 152 00:06:25,680 --> 00:06:27,880 Speaker 4: who drew the most money? So, like, if you want to. 153 00:06:27,880 --> 00:06:30,839 Speaker 3: Talk like all time draws, you got to start with Hogan. 154 00:06:30,880 --> 00:06:33,760 Speaker 4: You probably got to put Sam Martino on there, Stone Cold, 155 00:06:33,760 --> 00:06:36,320 Speaker 4: Steve Austin, and likely the Rock. 156 00:06:36,720 --> 00:06:38,200 Speaker 3: That's probably your top four if. 157 00:06:38,120 --> 00:06:42,200 Speaker 4: You want to go like in Ring all Time, you're 158 00:06:42,200 --> 00:06:48,479 Speaker 4: looking at Sean Michaels, You're looking at Eddie Guerrero, You're 159 00:06:48,480 --> 00:06:50,960 Speaker 4: looking at. 160 00:06:51,920 --> 00:06:53,560 Speaker 3: Maybe Man. 161 00:06:53,920 --> 00:06:56,680 Speaker 4: After that, it gets real hard because you know, my 162 00:06:56,800 --> 00:06:58,640 Speaker 4: kid was really good but he was kind of a jerk. 163 00:06:58,680 --> 00:06:59,919 Speaker 3: Bert Heart was really great. 164 00:07:01,120 --> 00:07:04,320 Speaker 2: Flair said, Flair definitely had heart and and and Sean 165 00:07:04,400 --> 00:07:05,160 Speaker 2: Michael didn't stop. 166 00:07:05,240 --> 00:07:06,960 Speaker 3: And you could put Rick in there as well. 167 00:07:07,160 --> 00:07:08,920 Speaker 1: Ricky Nobody could talk like Blair. 168 00:07:08,800 --> 00:07:12,160 Speaker 4: No, no, no, Flair was Dusty was a special. Oh yeah, 169 00:07:12,440 --> 00:07:15,240 Speaker 4: but Dusty's entering work wasn't like, you know, he wasn't 170 00:07:15,240 --> 00:07:19,040 Speaker 4: blown anybody out of the water. You know, Brian Danielson 171 00:07:19,040 --> 00:07:22,440 Speaker 4: would be up there. I think, you know, I'd like 172 00:07:22,480 --> 00:07:24,200 Speaker 4: to be in the conversation at some point. 173 00:07:24,280 --> 00:07:24,920 Speaker 3: I think. 174 00:07:26,360 --> 00:07:29,200 Speaker 4: Aj Styles, who also just recently retired, as someone who's 175 00:07:29,240 --> 00:07:30,760 Speaker 4: one of the greatest of all time in the rings. 176 00:07:30,800 --> 00:07:33,240 Speaker 4: So it's a fun discussion, but it's hard to narrow 177 00:07:33,280 --> 00:07:33,600 Speaker 4: it down. 178 00:07:34,240 --> 00:07:36,960 Speaker 2: You call that the Rock you want, you want right 179 00:07:37,040 --> 00:07:38,520 Speaker 2: to come back one of the last time and you get, 180 00:07:38,520 --> 00:07:39,480 Speaker 2: you get your shot at Rock. 181 00:07:40,280 --> 00:07:43,120 Speaker 4: You know, maybe, man, I don't know, I don't know. 182 00:07:43,240 --> 00:07:49,120 Speaker 4: I had such a fun time wrestling DJ WrestleMania a 183 00:07:49,160 --> 00:07:50,600 Speaker 4: couple of years ago in the tag match. 184 00:07:50,640 --> 00:07:51,880 Speaker 3: A singles match would be a lot of. 185 00:07:51,880 --> 00:07:54,600 Speaker 4: Fun with him, if he'd be willing to do it. 186 00:07:55,800 --> 00:07:57,600 Speaker 4: But yeah, the tag match was a blast, and it 187 00:07:57,680 --> 00:07:59,080 Speaker 4: was really cool to be out there in the main 188 00:07:59,120 --> 00:08:00,520 Speaker 4: event of WrestleMania with the Rock. 189 00:08:00,560 --> 00:08:03,480 Speaker 3: I mean, that's that's a that's a beyond bucket list. 190 00:08:03,760 --> 00:08:06,480 Speaker 4: You know you mentioned staying earlier, Like, there's some guys 191 00:08:06,520 --> 00:08:08,680 Speaker 4: that when I was growing up watching, you just don't 192 00:08:08,680 --> 00:08:10,200 Speaker 4: think you're ever going to get the opportunity to be 193 00:08:10,200 --> 00:08:11,440 Speaker 4: in the ring with them. You think they're going to 194 00:08:11,520 --> 00:08:14,080 Speaker 4: be retired by the time you're there. Stings one of them. 195 00:08:14,320 --> 00:08:15,920 Speaker 4: You know, I got to do promos with Jake the 196 00:08:15,960 --> 00:08:18,520 Speaker 4: Snake and Roddy Piper got to, you know, be in 197 00:08:18,520 --> 00:08:20,520 Speaker 4: the main event a Wrestlemana with the Rock. I mean, 198 00:08:20,560 --> 00:08:22,680 Speaker 4: that's this is bunker stuff, you know. 199 00:08:22,840 --> 00:08:25,440 Speaker 2: So you Roddy Piper, you grew up watching and Sting 200 00:08:25,480 --> 00:08:26,840 Speaker 2: and all those guys you grew up. 201 00:08:26,760 --> 00:08:30,560 Speaker 4: Watching in crazy Dude, it's crazy that I get the 202 00:08:30,600 --> 00:08:34,400 Speaker 4: opportunity to be in the ring with these guys, whether 203 00:08:34,440 --> 00:08:37,240 Speaker 4: it's a promo or match learn from Dusty Rhodes, you know, 204 00:08:37,360 --> 00:08:39,839 Speaker 4: any anything like that. It's really for me as a 205 00:08:39,920 --> 00:08:41,719 Speaker 4: kid growing up in Iowa, like to be able to 206 00:08:41,760 --> 00:08:44,840 Speaker 4: live those dreams and meet your heroes in those ways. 207 00:08:44,840 --> 00:08:46,000 Speaker 3: Like it's really something. 208 00:08:45,760 --> 00:08:48,679 Speaker 1: Special you and see him pump y'all made up. 209 00:08:49,440 --> 00:08:51,600 Speaker 3: No, I wouldn't say so. 210 00:08:52,120 --> 00:08:52,800 Speaker 1: You wouldn't say so. 211 00:08:53,120 --> 00:08:53,920 Speaker 3: I wouldn't say so. 212 00:08:54,160 --> 00:08:58,559 Speaker 4: I mean, there's obviously some sort of working relationship. Otherwise, 213 00:08:58,800 --> 00:08:59,960 Speaker 4: you know, we wouldn't be able to go out there 214 00:09:00,080 --> 00:09:03,640 Speaker 4: and have matches. But there's just so much, it's so complex. 215 00:09:04,280 --> 00:09:08,079 Speaker 4: I think maybe once we're both away from the business 216 00:09:08,640 --> 00:09:10,600 Speaker 4: or retired or hung it up, there might be an 217 00:09:10,640 --> 00:09:15,560 Speaker 4: opportunity for reconciliation there. It's just so hard for me 218 00:09:15,640 --> 00:09:19,720 Speaker 4: to separate the s and Punk that there is now 219 00:09:19,760 --> 00:09:20,880 Speaker 4: from the sea and Punk that. 220 00:09:22,559 --> 00:09:25,320 Speaker 3: Was a really rotten friend to me ten years. 221 00:09:25,120 --> 00:09:29,560 Speaker 4: Ago, and so it's it's just those those wounds take 222 00:09:29,600 --> 00:09:32,960 Speaker 4: time to heal. I think whether or not he cares 223 00:09:33,000 --> 00:09:35,920 Speaker 4: to make the effort to do that, and I care 224 00:09:36,040 --> 00:09:38,720 Speaker 4: to care if he makes the effort to do that, 225 00:09:38,800 --> 00:09:40,640 Speaker 4: I don't know. I don't know if we either of 226 00:09:40,720 --> 00:09:42,400 Speaker 4: us have the time for it at the moment. 227 00:09:44,280 --> 00:09:46,080 Speaker 2: Did the company pull you and say, look, God, I 228 00:09:46,160 --> 00:09:49,040 Speaker 2: understand there's some things going on between you two, but 229 00:09:49,080 --> 00:09:51,520 Speaker 2: we run a business here. Y'all figure that issh out 230 00:09:52,960 --> 00:09:54,319 Speaker 2: and keep it and keep it moving. 231 00:09:55,280 --> 00:09:57,600 Speaker 4: No, there was never a time where the two of 232 00:09:57,679 --> 00:09:59,679 Speaker 4: us were sat down and had a conversation like that. 233 00:10:01,200 --> 00:10:08,200 Speaker 4: There there were conversations had before he came back about 234 00:10:08,240 --> 00:10:11,440 Speaker 4: whether or not it's something that I could be okay with, 235 00:10:14,360 --> 00:10:17,840 Speaker 4: And you know, he's back. So I always feel like, 236 00:10:19,080 --> 00:10:23,520 Speaker 4: if there's business to be done that's bigger than me, 237 00:10:23,720 --> 00:10:27,559 Speaker 4: that's bigger than my grievances. So you know, at the 238 00:10:27,640 --> 00:10:29,800 Speaker 4: end of the day, it's not my sandbox. I don't 239 00:10:29,800 --> 00:10:33,240 Speaker 4: make those decisions. I think ww would be just fine 240 00:10:33,280 --> 00:10:36,120 Speaker 4: without seeing Punk, But I do think there's a large 241 00:10:36,120 --> 00:10:38,400 Speaker 4: portion of our fan base that is very happy that 242 00:10:38,840 --> 00:10:39,440 Speaker 4: he is back. 243 00:10:39,720 --> 00:10:43,200 Speaker 2: So, you so this happened before. This doesn't have anything 244 00:10:43,240 --> 00:10:45,200 Speaker 2: to do with wrestling. This had to do with something 245 00:10:45,520 --> 00:10:46,439 Speaker 2: outside of the ring. 246 00:10:47,520 --> 00:10:51,640 Speaker 4: I mean, we know each other through wrestling, so would 247 00:10:51,679 --> 00:10:55,400 Speaker 4: he he's with WWE, and he was I knew him 248 00:10:55,400 --> 00:10:57,120 Speaker 4: before that. I knew him when I first started wrestling 249 00:10:57,120 --> 00:10:59,200 Speaker 4: because he's from Chicago, so I would go watch him 250 00:10:59,320 --> 00:11:02,319 Speaker 4: on independent shows. I wanted to be trained by him 251 00:11:02,320 --> 00:11:04,800 Speaker 4: when he ran a school back in two thousand and four. 252 00:11:05,120 --> 00:11:06,400 Speaker 4: Didn't have the money to do it because it was 253 00:11:06,400 --> 00:11:08,480 Speaker 4: out in Philadelphia and I couldn't move out there, didn't 254 00:11:08,520 --> 00:11:12,080 Speaker 4: have any cash, so you know, but I stayed in touch. 255 00:11:12,080 --> 00:11:13,720 Speaker 4: I go watch him on shows. I was a fan 256 00:11:13,760 --> 00:11:17,719 Speaker 4: of his. He knew my upbringing, he saw you know 257 00:11:17,800 --> 00:11:19,480 Speaker 4: that we were kind of cut from the same cloth. 258 00:11:19,520 --> 00:11:22,600 Speaker 4: And he was somewhat of a mentor to me when 259 00:11:22,600 --> 00:11:25,720 Speaker 4: we got to WWE, and he also vouched for myself 260 00:11:25,720 --> 00:11:30,120 Speaker 4: and John Moxley to be brought up from developmental to 261 00:11:30,200 --> 00:11:30,839 Speaker 4: the main roster. 262 00:11:31,000 --> 00:11:32,760 Speaker 3: So everything was good. 263 00:11:32,840 --> 00:11:35,800 Speaker 4: He let me sleep on his couch, he let me 264 00:11:35,880 --> 00:11:37,840 Speaker 4: ride his bus occasionally from time to time. 265 00:11:38,080 --> 00:11:39,240 Speaker 3: He's a really good guy. 266 00:11:40,640 --> 00:11:43,160 Speaker 4: And I know I would have done anything for him. 267 00:11:44,040 --> 00:11:49,960 Speaker 4: And then he leaves the company and basically just completely ghosted, 268 00:11:50,360 --> 00:11:52,680 Speaker 4: like just stop being a friend, like just and I 269 00:11:52,760 --> 00:11:54,800 Speaker 4: reached out to him multiple times to try to talk 270 00:11:54,880 --> 00:11:57,440 Speaker 4: to him, and there was never any animosity between us. 271 00:11:57,480 --> 00:11:59,199 Speaker 4: There was never like a falling out between the two 272 00:11:59,240 --> 00:12:01,840 Speaker 4: of us. He just didn't like the fact that I 273 00:12:01,880 --> 00:12:03,199 Speaker 4: stayed working for the company. 274 00:12:03,559 --> 00:12:06,520 Speaker 2: And well, you helo, just because you leave, you think 275 00:12:06,760 --> 00:12:09,200 Speaker 2: hold on, I got I want to eat. I like 276 00:12:09,280 --> 00:12:11,720 Speaker 2: my living style now, and so because you had a 277 00:12:11,720 --> 00:12:13,600 Speaker 2: falling out, I'm supposed to have a falling out time. 278 00:12:13,600 --> 00:12:15,640 Speaker 3: I wasn't the only person that he felt this way about. 279 00:12:15,679 --> 00:12:17,880 Speaker 4: He lost a lot of friendships over this, and he 280 00:12:17,960 --> 00:12:21,199 Speaker 4: got over He did this on his own and and 281 00:12:21,720 --> 00:12:23,319 Speaker 4: I think, you know, that would have been one thing, 282 00:12:23,720 --> 00:12:26,080 Speaker 4: But then in the back end of that, he spent many, many, 283 00:12:26,160 --> 00:12:30,040 Speaker 4: many years taking kind of pot shots at what we 284 00:12:30,040 --> 00:12:33,360 Speaker 4: were doing, what we were trying to do in WWE 285 00:12:33,520 --> 00:12:36,319 Speaker 4: without him, and he look, when he left, he left 286 00:12:36,320 --> 00:12:39,040 Speaker 4: a pretty significant void. He was he was at the top, 287 00:12:39,120 --> 00:12:41,440 Speaker 4: he was a top star, and we were trying to 288 00:12:41,480 --> 00:12:43,600 Speaker 4: rebuild and we didn't have a lot to work with. 289 00:12:43,679 --> 00:12:46,040 Speaker 4: We were trying to make the thing great, and he 290 00:12:46,080 --> 00:12:49,560 Speaker 4: took a lot of, you know, shots on podcasts and 291 00:12:49,600 --> 00:12:52,640 Speaker 4: interviews at me and at people who were trying to 292 00:12:52,640 --> 00:12:55,400 Speaker 4: do good things for the industry that he supposedly loved. 293 00:12:55,760 --> 00:12:59,200 Speaker 4: And at that point, ww was my home. And so 294 00:12:59,240 --> 00:13:02,040 Speaker 4: when you're starting to talk bad about my home and 295 00:13:02,080 --> 00:13:03,960 Speaker 4: the people that I love and the people I take 296 00:13:04,000 --> 00:13:06,600 Speaker 4: that personally, you know, how am I not? And because 297 00:13:06,600 --> 00:13:08,000 Speaker 4: we were friends and you didn't want to talk to 298 00:13:08,040 --> 00:13:10,120 Speaker 4: me about anything when you left, how am I supposed 299 00:13:10,120 --> 00:13:11,320 Speaker 4: to not take that personally? 300 00:13:11,480 --> 00:13:11,720 Speaker 1: You know? 301 00:13:12,160 --> 00:13:15,880 Speaker 4: So, yeah, it was hard for me. And I did 302 00:13:15,960 --> 00:13:18,280 Speaker 4: write you off and I did say, you know, f 303 00:13:18,360 --> 00:13:20,080 Speaker 4: you like, I ain't got time for that. Man, I 304 00:13:20,080 --> 00:13:22,360 Speaker 4: ain't got time for people like you. You know, that 305 00:13:22,440 --> 00:13:24,880 Speaker 4: negative energy trying to tear down everything we're trying to 306 00:13:24,880 --> 00:13:26,600 Speaker 4: build here. I ain't got time for that. And so 307 00:13:26,679 --> 00:13:29,520 Speaker 4: it really really bothered me when he came back, because 308 00:13:29,520 --> 00:13:32,960 Speaker 4: I go, dude, you were gone. We did this, We 309 00:13:33,000 --> 00:13:35,080 Speaker 4: did this without you, not only without you, but in 310 00:13:35,120 --> 00:13:37,160 Speaker 4: spite of you. We did this in spite of you. 311 00:13:37,679 --> 00:13:39,959 Speaker 4: But you tried to make this not happen, and now 312 00:13:39,960 --> 00:13:41,800 Speaker 4: you want to come back and want to be a. 313 00:13:41,760 --> 00:13:45,160 Speaker 1: Part of it. Did you see? We didn't crumble without you, didn't. 314 00:13:45,200 --> 00:13:47,880 Speaker 4: We got better and we got bigger and everything is 315 00:13:47,920 --> 00:13:50,240 Speaker 4: better now and it had nothing to do with you. 316 00:13:50,600 --> 00:13:52,880 Speaker 4: And so that was really hard for me, and I, 317 00:13:53,600 --> 00:13:55,320 Speaker 4: like I said, this is a lot to get over. 318 00:13:55,480 --> 00:13:58,240 Speaker 4: And I think one literally, if he would have just 319 00:13:58,280 --> 00:14:02,560 Speaker 4: replied one time to one text or one call and said, 320 00:14:02,600 --> 00:14:05,280 Speaker 4: hey man, I'm not ready yet, or hey man, it's 321 00:14:05,320 --> 00:14:05,760 Speaker 4: not you. 322 00:14:05,880 --> 00:14:06,400 Speaker 3: I just can't. 323 00:14:06,440 --> 00:14:10,600 Speaker 4: I'm going through something, just one time, anything, would have 324 00:14:10,679 --> 00:14:11,800 Speaker 4: changed the whole narrative for me. 325 00:14:13,800 --> 00:14:18,600 Speaker 2: You got an opportunity to wrestle Rock Lesnar, the Big 326 00:14:18,800 --> 00:14:20,320 Speaker 2: He recently came back. 327 00:14:20,560 --> 00:14:23,320 Speaker 3: Yes, sir, what what's it? 328 00:14:23,360 --> 00:14:27,120 Speaker 2: Like wrestling the big guys because obviously, you know, running 329 00:14:27,160 --> 00:14:29,440 Speaker 2: into a guy that's two rock sides or one of 330 00:14:29,440 --> 00:14:32,400 Speaker 2: these big guys is different than running in somebody that's 331 00:14:32,440 --> 00:14:35,480 Speaker 2: your side, because I mean, you guys are really athletic. 332 00:14:35,560 --> 00:14:37,520 Speaker 2: I mean people talk about all that that's okay, I'll 333 00:14:37,520 --> 00:14:39,880 Speaker 2: get it scripted, but all that falling and all that 334 00:14:39,920 --> 00:14:42,560 Speaker 2: tumbling and from ten to fifteen feet in the air, 335 00:14:42,880 --> 00:14:43,880 Speaker 2: that takes a lot out of you. 336 00:14:44,000 --> 00:14:45,680 Speaker 3: sEH, yeah, I mean I hear. 337 00:14:45,800 --> 00:14:48,320 Speaker 4: The thing is I love what one of the fun 338 00:14:48,360 --> 00:14:51,160 Speaker 4: things about for wrestling is I love matchups. Yeah, you know, 339 00:14:51,360 --> 00:14:54,120 Speaker 4: there are weight classes in UFC, there are weight classes 340 00:14:54,120 --> 00:14:54,920 Speaker 4: and amateur wrestling. 341 00:14:55,040 --> 00:14:55,760 Speaker 3: That's for a reason. 342 00:14:55,840 --> 00:14:58,080 Speaker 4: Yes, that's for a reason in our industry of things 343 00:14:58,200 --> 00:15:00,239 Speaker 4: go sideways, those big boys will crush. 344 00:15:00,080 --> 00:15:01,640 Speaker 3: Or there's nothing you can do about it. 345 00:15:02,440 --> 00:15:05,360 Speaker 4: But I love the fact in wrestling pro wrestling that 346 00:15:05,400 --> 00:15:07,720 Speaker 4: we don't have the weight classes that you get to 347 00:15:07,760 --> 00:15:11,840 Speaker 4: see wild matchups that you never get to see anywhere else. 348 00:15:12,000 --> 00:15:17,120 Speaker 4: That seth Rollins can go toe to doe with Brocklesner, 349 00:15:17,200 --> 00:15:19,920 Speaker 4: that he can find a way to figure out the beast, 350 00:15:20,000 --> 00:15:24,000 Speaker 4: that he can use his strengths against Brock Lesnar's weaknesses 351 00:15:24,120 --> 00:15:26,120 Speaker 4: and you just don't get that anywhere else. You know, 352 00:15:26,120 --> 00:15:28,680 Speaker 4: you don't get those kind of fairy tale matchups, like 353 00:15:28,880 --> 00:15:32,960 Speaker 4: you don't get the Big Show or Cane or Undertaker 354 00:15:33,200 --> 00:15:36,720 Speaker 4: versus Ray Mysterio. You know, there's no other world where 355 00:15:36,760 --> 00:15:40,480 Speaker 4: that exists. So it's this amazing like it's like a 356 00:15:40,520 --> 00:15:42,600 Speaker 4: Marvel movie in real life where you get to see 357 00:15:42,600 --> 00:15:45,680 Speaker 4: Thanos versus Thor, you know, or Thanos versus Spider Man. 358 00:15:45,720 --> 00:15:47,480 Speaker 4: You're like, oh, well, Fanos would crush him, but no, 359 00:15:47,480 --> 00:15:50,400 Speaker 4: because Spider Man's got he's an adjact with Webbs, and 360 00:15:50,440 --> 00:15:53,160 Speaker 4: he's got his way of figuring it out. And that's 361 00:15:53,160 --> 00:15:55,400 Speaker 4: what's fun about wrestling is when you see matchups and 362 00:15:55,440 --> 00:15:57,320 Speaker 4: you see the tail of the tape, you go, wow, 363 00:15:57,560 --> 00:15:59,840 Speaker 4: how is this guy gonna figure it out? Or oh, man, 364 00:16:00,120 --> 00:16:02,960 Speaker 4: big Boy's gonna he's gonna crush that little guy, or man, 365 00:16:03,040 --> 00:16:06,000 Speaker 4: I can't wait to see these two giants collide, or man, 366 00:16:06,040 --> 00:16:09,120 Speaker 4: I can't wait to see these two technical assassins just 367 00:16:09,160 --> 00:16:12,720 Speaker 4: get it on, or these two like awesome strikers slug 368 00:16:12,760 --> 00:16:13,040 Speaker 4: it out. 369 00:16:13,080 --> 00:16:13,280 Speaker 3: You know. 370 00:16:13,480 --> 00:16:15,840 Speaker 4: So you get all of that with wrestling that you 371 00:16:16,080 --> 00:16:19,920 Speaker 4: just don't get in any other form of sport, especially. 372 00:16:19,960 --> 00:16:21,800 Speaker 1: How would you have liked to wrestle rest Is so 373 00:16:21,960 --> 00:16:25,200 Speaker 1: Andre the giant over seven foot tall, five hundred pounds. 374 00:16:25,280 --> 00:16:27,360 Speaker 3: That would have been great. That would have been great. 375 00:16:27,400 --> 00:16:29,840 Speaker 3: Man off his feet. 376 00:16:30,000 --> 00:16:33,400 Speaker 4: No, I mean I'm poundful pound pretty strong, but those 377 00:16:33,480 --> 00:16:33,920 Speaker 4: boys are. 378 00:16:34,200 --> 00:16:36,800 Speaker 3: That's big dude. That's a big boy, you know what 379 00:16:36,880 --> 00:16:39,040 Speaker 3: I mean. I'm at to trip him. That's how I 380 00:16:39,120 --> 00:16:41,960 Speaker 3: get it. That run him until he's tired and trip him. 381 00:16:42,400 --> 00:16:44,240 Speaker 1: What NFL player, NBA player? 382 00:16:44,480 --> 00:16:46,960 Speaker 2: You think it would be really good in w W 383 00:16:47,120 --> 00:16:51,160 Speaker 2: E oh man, George Kittle because he does he he does, 384 00:16:53,640 --> 00:16:54,280 Speaker 2: could definitely do it. 385 00:16:54,480 --> 00:16:55,240 Speaker 3: He loves it. 386 00:16:55,520 --> 00:16:55,680 Speaker 5: You know. 387 00:16:56,080 --> 00:16:57,880 Speaker 4: I think when he's retired, he's gonna come do at 388 00:16:57,960 --> 00:17:02,760 Speaker 4: least one match. Dude, what once once the Niners? Like yeah, 389 00:17:02,800 --> 00:17:05,000 Speaker 4: he's done with his playing career and he's waiting for 390 00:17:05,080 --> 00:17:07,440 Speaker 4: that Hall of Fame like he dude, no doubt about it. 391 00:17:07,480 --> 00:17:10,440 Speaker 4: He's gonna come do one. I always, you know, I 392 00:17:10,560 --> 00:17:12,399 Speaker 4: look at the big dudes for sure. I look at 393 00:17:12,480 --> 00:17:15,600 Speaker 4: like like Miles Garrett's one of my you know, just 394 00:17:15,920 --> 00:17:20,240 Speaker 4: like House David and Joku again, like just these house dudes. 395 00:17:20,320 --> 00:17:24,480 Speaker 3: Man, trying to think there's anybody else off the top 396 00:17:24,520 --> 00:17:25,680 Speaker 3: of my head. That's really good. 397 00:17:26,760 --> 00:17:28,960 Speaker 4: You know. I like Dk Metcalf, Like Dk is a 398 00:17:29,000 --> 00:17:31,560 Speaker 4: freak athlete, you know, but he just got that bill 399 00:17:31,600 --> 00:17:32,960 Speaker 4: and he's got the look to him too. 400 00:17:34,359 --> 00:17:34,600 Speaker 3: Yeah. 401 00:17:34,640 --> 00:17:34,920 Speaker 1: I mean. 402 00:17:36,440 --> 00:17:38,240 Speaker 4: That's a lot of the reason the w W likes 403 00:17:38,280 --> 00:17:41,640 Speaker 4: to like recruit, you know, college athletes, because. 404 00:17:41,720 --> 00:17:43,879 Speaker 1: They y'all got in. I saw. I think the w 405 00:17:44,200 --> 00:17:45,240 Speaker 1: he got an n I L program. 406 00:17:45,520 --> 00:17:47,200 Speaker 3: Correct, we do have an n IL program. 407 00:17:46,960 --> 00:17:49,760 Speaker 2: Because I saw like a couple of women's shot putters 408 00:17:49,800 --> 00:17:52,240 Speaker 2: and things like that that's gonna once their career is 409 00:17:52,320 --> 00:17:55,920 Speaker 2: over and and and collegiate, they're gonna. 410 00:17:55,720 --> 00:17:57,760 Speaker 4: Go to the w W hopefully take a crack out 411 00:17:57,800 --> 00:17:59,760 Speaker 4: of and now go to Undo Orlando and see if 412 00:17:59,800 --> 00:18:01,280 Speaker 4: they can develop a passion for it. 413 00:18:01,840 --> 00:18:05,720 Speaker 2: So where are you on uh, influencers or athletes coming 414 00:18:05,760 --> 00:18:08,159 Speaker 2: into the ww We see Logan Paul did it? 415 00:18:08,560 --> 00:18:08,679 Speaker 4: Uh? 416 00:18:09,160 --> 00:18:09,680 Speaker 1: Does it from? 417 00:18:09,800 --> 00:18:14,160 Speaker 2: Occasionally we see McAfee, Pete Matten comes in. I show 418 00:18:14,240 --> 00:18:17,320 Speaker 2: Speed showed up in in in the Ring a couple 419 00:18:17,359 --> 00:18:17,680 Speaker 2: of times. 420 00:18:17,800 --> 00:18:19,159 Speaker 1: So where are you on that? You okay with that? 421 00:18:19,480 --> 00:18:21,480 Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm fine with it. I always feel like it's like, 422 00:18:22,520 --> 00:18:23,919 Speaker 4: you know, I think it's as a talent it can 423 00:18:23,960 --> 00:18:25,880 Speaker 4: be frustrating. You feel like, you know, if if they're 424 00:18:25,880 --> 00:18:29,720 Speaker 4: in a big spotlight, you know, you're like, ah, they're 425 00:18:29,760 --> 00:18:32,159 Speaker 4: taking somebody's spot, right, But at the end of the day, 426 00:18:32,280 --> 00:18:34,880 Speaker 4: like you and I mean this nicely, and I would 427 00:18:34,880 --> 00:18:36,800 Speaker 4: say this to my my younger self too, and like 428 00:18:36,880 --> 00:18:39,960 Speaker 4: that was never your spot that you weren't gonna do. 429 00:18:40,000 --> 00:18:41,480 Speaker 3: It wasn't gonna have the same impact. 430 00:18:41,520 --> 00:18:44,399 Speaker 4: The reason we are able to bring these influencers or 431 00:18:44,440 --> 00:18:47,080 Speaker 4: actors or whomever into the into the phray is to 432 00:18:47,200 --> 00:18:50,560 Speaker 4: get new eyes on the project and that those new 433 00:18:50,640 --> 00:18:54,359 Speaker 4: eyes then they can find you, you know, otherwise they 434 00:18:54,359 --> 00:18:55,440 Speaker 4: ain't gonna find you, you know. 435 00:18:55,720 --> 00:18:57,240 Speaker 3: So it's it's a it's that's a. 436 00:18:57,240 --> 00:18:59,000 Speaker 4: Tough lesson to learn, I think as a young talent, 437 00:18:59,040 --> 00:19:01,879 Speaker 4: because you want those opportunities. But yeah, I mean I 438 00:19:01,960 --> 00:19:04,919 Speaker 4: think it's great, and you know, not all of them 439 00:19:04,960 --> 00:19:07,480 Speaker 4: are Like Logan, Logan's a great exam Logan do this. 440 00:19:07,720 --> 00:19:10,040 Speaker 4: He can do it, and he developed the passion for 441 00:19:10,160 --> 00:19:13,560 Speaker 4: it quickly. I don't know that he thought. I don't 442 00:19:13,560 --> 00:19:15,720 Speaker 4: know that he thought because he's he's pretty much full 443 00:19:15,840 --> 00:19:18,680 Speaker 4: time now, he's every week he's there, and I don't 444 00:19:18,720 --> 00:19:20,760 Speaker 4: know that he when he first started that, he thought 445 00:19:20,840 --> 00:19:22,760 Speaker 4: that was what it is. Here's this fun thing I 446 00:19:22,880 --> 00:19:25,200 Speaker 4: get to do. You know, he's all about making money 447 00:19:25,280 --> 00:19:27,800 Speaker 4: and and and they're getting he's getting paid, and he 448 00:19:27,840 --> 00:19:29,440 Speaker 4: gets to do this fun thing. And it's kind of 449 00:19:29,520 --> 00:19:32,960 Speaker 4: like fight adjacent to you know, this athletic uh, you know, 450 00:19:33,119 --> 00:19:35,800 Speaker 4: nature to it. I think he got addicted to it. 451 00:19:36,040 --> 00:19:38,639 Speaker 4: I think he got addicted to the process. And like 452 00:19:38,760 --> 00:19:40,879 Speaker 4: when you get hooked that way, it's really hard to 453 00:19:40,960 --> 00:19:43,159 Speaker 4: let it go. And so there's not a lot of him, 454 00:19:43,240 --> 00:19:44,880 Speaker 4: you know, most of them are like a speed who 455 00:19:44,920 --> 00:19:46,080 Speaker 4: gets in the rumble and gets. 456 00:19:46,040 --> 00:19:48,080 Speaker 3: Murked by bron breaker and then he don't want to 457 00:19:48,119 --> 00:19:49,760 Speaker 3: come back. Guys like I'm good, Yeah. 458 00:19:49,600 --> 00:19:55,600 Speaker 1: I'm Rhonda. Ronda, Ronda Rowlsey. Obviously she was in the UFC. 459 00:19:56,040 --> 00:19:58,160 Speaker 1: He tried it. Are you surprised she didn't stay longer? 460 00:19:58,560 --> 00:20:00,720 Speaker 3: No, not at all. It's hard. 461 00:20:00,920 --> 00:20:02,920 Speaker 4: It's really hard, and what they were asking Ronda to 462 00:20:03,000 --> 00:20:05,320 Speaker 4: do was very difficult. The schedule was crazy. 463 00:20:05,520 --> 00:20:07,040 Speaker 3: Still at that time. This is pre COVID. 464 00:20:07,160 --> 00:20:11,920 Speaker 4: She comes in, she comes in twenty eighteen seventeen, something 465 00:20:11,960 --> 00:20:16,000 Speaker 4: like that, and at first it's very easy and not 466 00:20:16,080 --> 00:20:18,440 Speaker 4: I don't mean this in a negative way. But everything's 467 00:20:18,520 --> 00:20:22,399 Speaker 4: curated for her, so everything is choreographed and you know, 468 00:20:22,560 --> 00:20:25,440 Speaker 4: she has one match every six months or something like that, 469 00:20:25,640 --> 00:20:28,840 Speaker 4: and it gets well rehearsed and that's fun and you 470 00:20:28,960 --> 00:20:31,200 Speaker 4: get to do wrestling that way, and that can be 471 00:20:31,280 --> 00:20:33,560 Speaker 4: really fun, and that can be addicting for people, but 472 00:20:33,640 --> 00:20:36,719 Speaker 4: that's not really what wrestling is. Wrestling is a bit 473 00:20:36,720 --> 00:20:39,560 Speaker 4: of a grind and you have to and you it 474 00:20:39,880 --> 00:20:42,440 Speaker 4: used to be five times a week and you have to. 475 00:20:42,680 --> 00:20:43,119 Speaker 1: You have to. 476 00:20:43,440 --> 00:20:45,639 Speaker 4: But that's how you learn your craft, you know. But 477 00:20:45,760 --> 00:20:48,159 Speaker 4: if you're not used to that, and you're coming in 478 00:20:48,880 --> 00:20:51,280 Speaker 4: and this is not RONNA's fault, you're coming in and 479 00:20:51,400 --> 00:20:52,440 Speaker 4: that's how you're presented. 480 00:20:52,480 --> 00:20:54,760 Speaker 3: And then you have to work backwards. You have to work, 481 00:20:54,960 --> 00:20:56,000 Speaker 3: you know, opposite of. 482 00:20:56,000 --> 00:20:57,840 Speaker 4: The way I did, where I came up doing all 483 00:20:57,920 --> 00:20:59,720 Speaker 4: that and then I got to do the fun stuff 484 00:20:59,720 --> 00:21:02,880 Speaker 4: of the end. And that's easier because now it's like, oh, wow, wait, 485 00:21:03,160 --> 00:21:04,880 Speaker 4: you tell me I only have to wrestle fifty times 486 00:21:04,880 --> 00:21:05,200 Speaker 4: a year. 487 00:21:07,080 --> 00:21:08,679 Speaker 3: Yeah, I wish we would do two fifty. 488 00:21:09,840 --> 00:21:12,160 Speaker 4: So this is nothing when you go the other way, 489 00:21:12,280 --> 00:21:14,800 Speaker 4: when that is a really hard thing to do. And 490 00:21:14,960 --> 00:21:17,000 Speaker 4: she had other aspirations. You know, she wanted to be 491 00:21:17,040 --> 00:21:19,080 Speaker 4: a mom, and it's really hard to be a mom 492 00:21:19,280 --> 00:21:21,000 Speaker 4: and do our gig, especially when you want to have 493 00:21:21,119 --> 00:21:21,840 Speaker 4: multiple kids. 494 00:21:22,160 --> 00:21:24,040 Speaker 3: And you know, she kudos to her. 495 00:21:24,160 --> 00:21:27,240 Speaker 4: She traveled with her oldest daughter a lot, the same 496 00:21:27,280 --> 00:21:29,800 Speaker 4: way myself and my wife did with our daughter, and 497 00:21:29,920 --> 00:21:32,800 Speaker 4: that's a really difficult thing to do. And if you're 498 00:21:32,840 --> 00:21:36,200 Speaker 4: not having fun and you don't love it, it's it's 499 00:21:36,440 --> 00:21:38,560 Speaker 4: It does not surprise me that she was like, I 500 00:21:38,640 --> 00:21:40,280 Speaker 4: need to get away from this, and not to say 501 00:21:40,359 --> 00:21:42,680 Speaker 4: she won't come back and give it another go, because 502 00:21:42,720 --> 00:21:44,680 Speaker 4: she does have a talent for it. 503 00:21:44,840 --> 00:21:46,560 Speaker 3: But it doesn't surprise me. 504 00:21:47,440 --> 00:21:50,400 Speaker 1: Bad Bunny who performed, who performed at the Super Bowl? Yes, 505 00:21:50,600 --> 00:21:52,200 Speaker 1: did you get that? You meet Bad Bunny? 506 00:21:52,320 --> 00:21:52,439 Speaker 5: Oh? 507 00:21:52,520 --> 00:21:52,959 Speaker 3: Yeah, I met. 508 00:21:53,040 --> 00:21:55,720 Speaker 4: We need till multiple times because he has done a 509 00:21:55,760 --> 00:21:57,560 Speaker 4: couple things for us from time to time. He had 510 00:21:57,600 --> 00:22:01,240 Speaker 4: an absolutely wonderful match with Dami Priests in Puerto Rico 511 00:22:01,320 --> 00:22:06,000 Speaker 4: a couple of years back. He loves wrestling. That's that's insane. 512 00:22:06,119 --> 00:22:08,119 Speaker 4: By the way, I just want people to understand that 513 00:22:08,280 --> 00:22:09,760 Speaker 4: he was a street fight. It was like a no 514 00:22:09,920 --> 00:22:13,680 Speaker 4: olds bar San Juan street fight. He's going through tables, 515 00:22:13,720 --> 00:22:17,320 Speaker 4: getting beat with chairs, getting choked, slammed. This is the 516 00:22:17,880 --> 00:22:21,159 Speaker 4: biggest artist in the world. This would have been like 517 00:22:21,600 --> 00:22:27,320 Speaker 4: Michael Jackson in nineteen eighty six at Wrestle Many. 518 00:22:27,760 --> 00:22:30,920 Speaker 3: What are we talking about? That's crazy, dude, Could you 519 00:22:31,080 --> 00:22:31,680 Speaker 3: imagine that? 520 00:22:31,920 --> 00:22:35,240 Speaker 4: No, like Paul McCartney ain't getting in the ring, and 521 00:22:35,680 --> 00:22:36,960 Speaker 4: you know that's crazy. 522 00:22:37,400 --> 00:22:40,399 Speaker 3: So I had a ton of respect for Beneaito. He 523 00:22:40,480 --> 00:22:42,520 Speaker 3: did not have to do that at all. What a 524 00:22:42,600 --> 00:22:44,960 Speaker 3: stud like. I don't know any of his songs, but dude, 525 00:22:45,040 --> 00:22:45,600 Speaker 3: that what a. 526 00:22:45,680 --> 00:22:49,640 Speaker 1: Savage you and post Malone had some beat. 527 00:22:51,240 --> 00:22:54,080 Speaker 4: Post he got up in my grill. Man, he's cheering 528 00:22:54,160 --> 00:22:56,000 Speaker 4: for punk and his wife over me and my wife. 529 00:22:56,040 --> 00:22:57,520 Speaker 4: He can't be doing that, you know what I mean? 530 00:22:58,160 --> 00:22:59,640 Speaker 3: Come on now that rehearsed. 531 00:23:00,359 --> 00:23:00,840 Speaker 1: I didn't even know. 532 00:23:01,119 --> 00:23:02,160 Speaker 3: I don't even know he was there. 533 00:23:02,160 --> 00:23:04,040 Speaker 4: I think he was there at Jelly Roll, there in 534 00:23:04,119 --> 00:23:06,840 Speaker 4: the crowd of Russell Palooza, which again Indianapolis a lot 535 00:23:06,840 --> 00:23:08,960 Speaker 4: of history there. And I just saw him and he 536 00:23:09,160 --> 00:23:11,720 Speaker 4: was like he's booing or something like that, and I 537 00:23:12,160 --> 00:23:15,040 Speaker 4: saw an opportunity and I took it. I'm gonna let him, 538 00:23:15,080 --> 00:23:16,800 Speaker 4: I'm gonna let him dunk on me and my wife 539 00:23:16,920 --> 00:23:22,400 Speaker 4: like that. Come on, huh, posty, you're good, y'all good 540 00:23:22,480 --> 00:23:22,919 Speaker 4: that though, right? 541 00:23:23,000 --> 00:23:26,240 Speaker 1: You said it. Damn you don't left stuff goal set. 542 00:23:26,520 --> 00:23:29,040 Speaker 1: Oh you gotta left stuff, goal set. 543 00:23:29,160 --> 00:23:31,000 Speaker 3: I'm in the conflict business man. 544 00:23:31,400 --> 00:23:31,639 Speaker 1: I'm in. 545 00:23:31,720 --> 00:23:36,199 Speaker 4: There's no money to be made of everybody. Y, that's 546 00:23:36,280 --> 00:23:38,040 Speaker 4: what it is. That's where we get paid. 547 00:23:38,200 --> 00:23:44,280 Speaker 1: Sir. A fan attacked you. Why do you press charges? 548 00:23:44,800 --> 00:23:44,919 Speaker 3: Uh? 549 00:23:45,760 --> 00:23:50,680 Speaker 4: That guy, from my understanding was he was catfished by 550 00:23:50,720 --> 00:23:54,080 Speaker 4: somebody pretending to be me and he was not. 551 00:23:57,840 --> 00:24:01,000 Speaker 3: He was I don't want to, you know, be rude, 552 00:24:01,040 --> 00:24:03,600 Speaker 3: but he was not all there was. There was something 553 00:24:03,720 --> 00:24:04,520 Speaker 3: off about him. 554 00:24:04,920 --> 00:24:07,480 Speaker 4: It felt like for me, it felt like the wrong 555 00:24:07,640 --> 00:24:10,520 Speaker 4: thing to do to try to get him incarcerated in 556 00:24:10,600 --> 00:24:13,240 Speaker 4: any way, and he wasn't a person that had the 557 00:24:13,359 --> 00:24:15,680 Speaker 4: means to pay for a big fine and go through 558 00:24:15,720 --> 00:24:16,840 Speaker 4: a whole legal process. 559 00:24:17,480 --> 00:24:18,760 Speaker 3: I asked the. 560 00:24:20,280 --> 00:24:23,600 Speaker 4: You know, judicial system that contacted me. I said, could 561 00:24:23,640 --> 00:24:25,280 Speaker 4: we look into please getting. 562 00:24:25,000 --> 00:24:26,280 Speaker 3: This guy some help? 563 00:24:26,560 --> 00:24:31,200 Speaker 4: Like he's not I'm lucky that he didn't bring anything 564 00:24:31,359 --> 00:24:37,000 Speaker 4: to you know, be particularly violent with. That's something that's 565 00:24:37,080 --> 00:24:42,240 Speaker 4: like very scary in situations like that. But thankfully we 566 00:24:42,280 --> 00:24:43,680 Speaker 4: got on the other side of it. And you're able 567 00:24:43,720 --> 00:24:46,320 Speaker 4: to look at it and it's totality like, Okay, what's 568 00:24:46,400 --> 00:24:48,480 Speaker 4: the best course of action here, and it's probably to 569 00:24:48,520 --> 00:24:50,119 Speaker 4: try to help this guy if we can do that. 570 00:24:50,400 --> 00:24:53,040 Speaker 4: So I was not able to follow up. I don't know, 571 00:24:53,520 --> 00:24:56,040 Speaker 4: but what I do know is that I chose not 572 00:24:56,119 --> 00:24:58,560 Speaker 4: to press charges for that reason. It didn't seem to 573 00:24:58,640 --> 00:25:00,600 Speaker 4: me that that was gonna solve the problem. 574 00:25:01,359 --> 00:25:05,800 Speaker 1: Goat Couples, we got you and Becky Lynch. We got Randy, Randy. 575 00:25:05,600 --> 00:25:09,280 Speaker 2: Savage of Miss Lisabe Okay, Edge of Beth Phoenix, Yep, 576 00:25:09,520 --> 00:25:11,880 Speaker 2: Matt Hardy Leader Triple H and Stephanie McMahon. 577 00:25:12,640 --> 00:25:15,680 Speaker 4: That's that's a good list. That's a good list right there. 578 00:25:15,800 --> 00:25:18,960 Speaker 4: I mean word number one by a mile. But shout 579 00:25:19,000 --> 00:25:21,080 Speaker 4: out to Age and Beth. They're both great in the ring, 580 00:25:21,160 --> 00:25:22,920 Speaker 4: but they don't have the accolades that myself and my 581 00:25:23,000 --> 00:25:23,480 Speaker 4: wife has. 582 00:25:23,600 --> 00:25:26,239 Speaker 3: Correct Uh, Stephanie and Hunter they did. 583 00:25:26,320 --> 00:25:27,679 Speaker 1: She just wrestling in WrestleMania. 584 00:25:27,960 --> 00:25:29,720 Speaker 3: Who's at Becky, Becky? 585 00:25:30,520 --> 00:25:34,200 Speaker 4: She was at the Rumble Roll Rumble last week. Yeah 586 00:25:34,280 --> 00:25:35,960 Speaker 4: in RT Riot Saudi Arabia. 587 00:25:36,600 --> 00:25:38,439 Speaker 1: Lived one Yeah, lived on the. 588 00:25:38,480 --> 00:25:39,280 Speaker 3: Roller Rumble Yep. 589 00:25:39,400 --> 00:25:41,520 Speaker 4: Becky has won the Rumble before first woman in main 590 00:25:41,560 --> 00:25:44,560 Speaker 4: event WrestleMania, and then myself. 591 00:25:44,640 --> 00:25:46,640 Speaker 3: You read the accolades earlier. I mean, there's no there's 592 00:25:46,680 --> 00:25:48,240 Speaker 3: nobody on that list. It's even close. 593 00:25:49,000 --> 00:25:51,080 Speaker 2: Is it easier to date a woman that's in the 594 00:25:51,119 --> 00:25:54,800 Speaker 2: business with you? A guy told me one time, he said, 595 00:25:54,800 --> 00:25:57,200 Speaker 2: you understand why movie stars the other movie stars? I say, 596 00:25:57,280 --> 00:25:59,720 Speaker 2: not why? I said they like each other. No, he said, 597 00:25:59,720 --> 00:26:01,440 Speaker 2: because the other know what it's like to live that life. 598 00:26:01,600 --> 00:26:03,680 Speaker 3: Yes, yes, that part of it is very that is 599 00:26:03,840 --> 00:26:04,600 Speaker 3: very beneficial. 600 00:26:04,880 --> 00:26:09,960 Speaker 4: It's something that's like, you know, you don't you don't 601 00:26:10,040 --> 00:26:12,800 Speaker 4: want to mix business with pleasure because if it doesn't end, well, 602 00:26:13,280 --> 00:26:13,680 Speaker 4: you know, there. 603 00:26:13,720 --> 00:26:15,280 Speaker 1: Is they still wrestle You got to see each other. 604 00:26:15,680 --> 00:26:17,680 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's hard, and then they date somebody else. You're 605 00:26:17,720 --> 00:26:20,119 Speaker 4: dating somebody else. It's it's not fun, Like that's just 606 00:26:20,200 --> 00:26:22,080 Speaker 4: not a fun thing. So you do try to avoid it. 607 00:26:22,520 --> 00:26:24,879 Speaker 4: But when you find somebody and Becky and I were 608 00:26:24,880 --> 00:26:27,560 Speaker 4: friends for years before we started dating, When you find 609 00:26:27,640 --> 00:26:31,000 Speaker 4: somebody who gets it and understands what you're doing and 610 00:26:31,200 --> 00:26:32,760 Speaker 4: you go through the same things, it's. 611 00:26:32,680 --> 00:26:33,560 Speaker 3: So much easier. 612 00:26:33,680 --> 00:26:37,600 Speaker 4: And because our business and our industry is so strange 613 00:26:37,680 --> 00:26:43,359 Speaker 4: and so weird, like just asking regular people who do 614 00:26:43,560 --> 00:26:46,399 Speaker 4: regular jobs to understand it is it is. 615 00:26:46,560 --> 00:26:48,919 Speaker 2: It can be a tall task, especially when you're starting out, 616 00:26:48,920 --> 00:26:51,200 Speaker 2: because you're saying you're wrestling three to five times a week, 617 00:26:51,440 --> 00:26:55,040 Speaker 2: so you're gone, so basically forty five forty five forty 618 00:26:55,080 --> 00:26:57,000 Speaker 2: seven weeks out of the year, you own the road. 619 00:26:57,280 --> 00:26:59,440 Speaker 4: We would be yeah, three hundred days a year for sure, 620 00:27:00,440 --> 00:27:02,960 Speaker 4: easy with the travel in the media. Yeah, I'd wrestle 621 00:27:03,080 --> 00:27:05,560 Speaker 4: like my, my, my craziest years, I would wrestle probably 622 00:27:05,600 --> 00:27:08,600 Speaker 4: close to two hundred and fifteen matches a year. And 623 00:27:09,040 --> 00:27:11,120 Speaker 4: that's not including the travel days. Like we would leave 624 00:27:11,200 --> 00:27:13,960 Speaker 4: Friday morning from my my little town in Iowa. 625 00:27:14,000 --> 00:27:16,200 Speaker 3: I'd go and I'd do non. 626 00:27:16,160 --> 00:27:19,720 Speaker 4: Televised events Friday, Saturday, Sunday, I would do Monday TV 627 00:27:19,960 --> 00:27:22,399 Speaker 4: Raw There's Live. Then we would tape smack Down at 628 00:27:22,440 --> 00:27:24,920 Speaker 4: the time on Tuesday, and then I would fly home 629 00:27:25,040 --> 00:27:29,359 Speaker 4: Wednesday morning, and I would leave Friday morning every week 630 00:27:29,840 --> 00:27:30,439 Speaker 4: for years. 631 00:27:31,480 --> 00:27:33,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, and that's that's that's like a good week. 632 00:27:33,760 --> 00:27:36,400 Speaker 4: That's like a normal week. I'd have that thirty six 633 00:27:36,520 --> 00:27:40,560 Speaker 4: hours at home. Essentially, Like we would have tours that 634 00:27:40,640 --> 00:27:42,359 Speaker 4: were you know, would take us away for months at 635 00:27:42,400 --> 00:27:42,720 Speaker 4: a time. 636 00:27:42,920 --> 00:27:43,480 Speaker 1: It was it was. 637 00:27:43,640 --> 00:27:46,639 Speaker 3: I mean, there's no chance to have a proper relationship 638 00:27:46,720 --> 00:27:47,440 Speaker 3: in that situation. 639 00:27:49,720 --> 00:27:52,240 Speaker 2: I read in doing this, there's research on you. You 640 00:27:52,400 --> 00:27:56,679 Speaker 2: were open to being in a poly relationship. How did 641 00:27:56,960 --> 00:28:00,760 Speaker 2: how did Becky come along and completely change You're like, 642 00:28:00,800 --> 00:28:02,919 Speaker 2: you know what I'm you know, I thought I wanted probably, 643 00:28:02,960 --> 00:28:04,040 Speaker 2: but I'm good with just what. 644 00:28:04,520 --> 00:28:06,920 Speaker 3: What what I really needed was to be single. That's 645 00:28:07,000 --> 00:28:08,879 Speaker 3: what I needed. Well, that's what I need. 646 00:28:09,560 --> 00:28:12,480 Speaker 4: I was a serial monogamoust for my whole adult life, 647 00:28:12,480 --> 00:28:14,639 Speaker 4: and I just needed to say, hey, you're okay. 648 00:28:14,440 --> 00:28:17,439 Speaker 3: Being by yourself, dude, just you're fine. You just need 649 00:28:17,560 --> 00:28:18,280 Speaker 3: to figure it out. 650 00:28:18,560 --> 00:28:22,879 Speaker 4: I mean I was from nineteen until I like, I 651 00:28:22,920 --> 00:28:24,720 Speaker 4: mean when me and beck You started dating it we'd 652 00:28:24,760 --> 00:28:26,879 Speaker 4: have been nineteen, so six years ago. So like I 653 00:28:26,960 --> 00:28:28,680 Speaker 4: was thirty four, it's like fifteen years. I was just 654 00:28:28,760 --> 00:28:32,159 Speaker 4: in relationship after relationship with like this much break in between. 655 00:28:32,520 --> 00:28:34,760 Speaker 4: So I never really got comfortable being by myself. 656 00:28:35,160 --> 00:28:37,639 Speaker 3: Really just got comfortable, and that's what I needed. But 657 00:28:37,720 --> 00:28:40,160 Speaker 3: I was like, at the end of my last. 658 00:28:40,040 --> 00:28:43,080 Speaker 4: Relationship before I started dating her, I was like, all right, 659 00:28:43,400 --> 00:28:46,120 Speaker 4: I'm just not cut out for monogamy. I'm not cut 660 00:28:46,160 --> 00:28:49,640 Speaker 4: out for being in a relationship. I just need Maybe 661 00:28:49,840 --> 00:28:51,840 Speaker 4: maybe it's like I can just do like I can 662 00:28:51,920 --> 00:28:54,520 Speaker 4: be in a relationship, but you know, maybe like some 663 00:28:55,200 --> 00:28:57,640 Speaker 4: being that relationship and not really be in that relationship. 664 00:28:57,960 --> 00:28:59,640 Speaker 4: You know what, I just needed to be single, and 665 00:28:59,720 --> 00:29:01,520 Speaker 4: I just didn't know how to process at all. So 666 00:29:01,640 --> 00:29:04,480 Speaker 4: and I'm probably like in taking too much information, reading 667 00:29:04,560 --> 00:29:06,480 Speaker 4: too much about it, thinking too much about it. 668 00:29:06,840 --> 00:29:07,920 Speaker 3: And the bottom line was. 669 00:29:08,160 --> 00:29:09,960 Speaker 4: Either A I needed to be single, which I just 670 00:29:10,000 --> 00:29:11,920 Speaker 4: didn't know how to do, or B I needed to 671 00:29:11,960 --> 00:29:15,440 Speaker 4: find the right partner, and I did and that was 672 00:29:15,680 --> 00:29:18,120 Speaker 4: once I found Once, once we locked that in, I 673 00:29:18,240 --> 00:29:18,520 Speaker 4: was done. 674 00:29:18,520 --> 00:29:20,880 Speaker 3: I mean I had a ring on order within like 675 00:29:21,000 --> 00:29:21,520 Speaker 3: two months. 676 00:29:22,200 --> 00:29:22,920 Speaker 1: But here's the thing. 677 00:29:23,120 --> 00:29:25,520 Speaker 2: Obviously, when you wrestle, you probably had a couple of 678 00:29:25,680 --> 00:29:29,440 Speaker 2: days around and she probably saw them. She's like, nah, 679 00:29:29,520 --> 00:29:31,880 Speaker 2: I say, I'm good, Bro, you ain't you ain't you 680 00:29:31,960 --> 00:29:33,360 Speaker 2: ain't ready for anything serious. 681 00:29:34,000 --> 00:29:36,640 Speaker 4: Well, we started seeing each other like cause it was 682 00:29:37,000 --> 00:29:39,040 Speaker 4: you know, I was again we were both scared of 683 00:29:39,080 --> 00:29:42,000 Speaker 4: getting involved with someone we worked with, and so we 684 00:29:42,120 --> 00:29:45,320 Speaker 4: were like, you know, let's just keep it kind of chill. 685 00:29:45,480 --> 00:29:49,280 Speaker 3: Maybe this yeah, But then she was like, you know what, 686 00:29:50,560 --> 00:29:52,120 Speaker 3: I don't think so I don't, you know, we could 687 00:29:52,160 --> 00:29:54,680 Speaker 3: just be friends. We were friends before. We don't have 688 00:29:54,760 --> 00:29:56,520 Speaker 3: to do any of that romantic stuff. 689 00:29:56,600 --> 00:29:58,600 Speaker 4: Let this be friends, because like if we're not going 690 00:29:58,680 --> 00:30:00,680 Speaker 4: to be in all in, and I don't want to, 691 00:30:00,960 --> 00:30:02,920 Speaker 4: I don't want to just do this little thing. I'm 692 00:30:03,080 --> 00:30:05,160 Speaker 4: you know, that's stupid because I want to be all in, 693 00:30:05,280 --> 00:30:07,240 Speaker 4: but I'm not gonna so like she's like, ah, I 694 00:30:07,320 --> 00:30:10,600 Speaker 4: will just be friends. In the literal second, she said that, 695 00:30:10,720 --> 00:30:13,360 Speaker 4: I could like feel my heart be like, oh no, 696 00:30:14,080 --> 00:30:14,760 Speaker 4: what have you done. 697 00:30:15,280 --> 00:30:15,720 Speaker 3: Don't do that. 698 00:30:16,880 --> 00:30:18,720 Speaker 4: I can't let you get away. I can't let you 699 00:30:18,800 --> 00:30:20,960 Speaker 4: get away. I'm like, but I'm supposed to be single. 700 00:30:21,000 --> 00:30:22,920 Speaker 4: Now I've decided that I needed to be single. She's 701 00:30:22,960 --> 00:30:24,960 Speaker 4: also decided that I need to be single. You know, 702 00:30:25,120 --> 00:30:26,800 Speaker 4: all these things are going on in my head at once, 703 00:30:27,040 --> 00:30:28,600 Speaker 4: and then like I remember, she hung up the phone, 704 00:30:28,600 --> 00:30:30,440 Speaker 4: and I'm like sitting there on the couch by myself, 705 00:30:30,800 --> 00:30:33,720 Speaker 4: going like no, no, no, no, no no no no, 706 00:30:34,000 --> 00:30:36,960 Speaker 4: this is wrong, this is wrong, and thankfully it was wrong. 707 00:30:37,040 --> 00:30:38,720 Speaker 4: And then I convinced her that it was wrong, and 708 00:30:38,840 --> 00:30:40,320 Speaker 4: like two weeks later, she was like, you know what 709 00:30:40,920 --> 00:30:42,960 Speaker 4: we should we should be together, and like I said, 710 00:30:43,640 --> 00:30:43,920 Speaker 4: was done. 711 00:30:43,960 --> 00:30:46,200 Speaker 1: You guys have been together ever since, ever since. It's 712 00:30:47,400 --> 00:30:49,600 Speaker 1: how did you know? Did you always? Because like you said, 713 00:30:49,600 --> 00:30:51,560 Speaker 1: you were friends and you as friends? 714 00:30:51,640 --> 00:30:53,440 Speaker 2: You know, some guys like I can't be friend with 715 00:30:54,440 --> 00:30:57,000 Speaker 2: a young lady or someone that I'm attracted to, but 716 00:30:57,120 --> 00:30:59,760 Speaker 2: clearly you guys were friends. Did you have any idea 717 00:31:00,320 --> 00:31:02,160 Speaker 2: that at some point in time that you guys could 718 00:31:02,200 --> 00:31:03,480 Speaker 2: be in a relationship where you just. 719 00:31:04,080 --> 00:31:07,680 Speaker 4: Know, I mean, look being in being in the Wwe Look, man, 720 00:31:08,200 --> 00:31:11,040 Speaker 4: I gotta be friends with girls that I'm a try because. 721 00:31:13,000 --> 00:31:13,560 Speaker 3: That's all they are. 722 00:31:13,640 --> 00:31:15,240 Speaker 4: They're all beautiful women, you know what I mean. So 723 00:31:15,320 --> 00:31:17,480 Speaker 4: you're friends with beautiful women. You just learned to figure 724 00:31:17,520 --> 00:31:19,200 Speaker 4: that out. You know, it's not if you If you're not, 725 00:31:19,280 --> 00:31:22,080 Speaker 4: then you're not gonna have no friends, no female friends. 726 00:31:22,520 --> 00:31:25,440 Speaker 4: So yeah, you you learn to do that, you know, 727 00:31:25,560 --> 00:31:27,880 Speaker 4: and then that that is tricky too. I think that's 728 00:31:28,040 --> 00:31:31,160 Speaker 4: that's harder than I think people think it is. And 729 00:31:31,720 --> 00:31:33,920 Speaker 4: it was something I had had to learn a little bit. 730 00:31:33,960 --> 00:31:35,480 Speaker 4: But you know, once you got into that mode, it 731 00:31:35,560 --> 00:31:37,400 Speaker 4: was like, yeah, no problem, and I we never I 732 00:31:37,960 --> 00:31:38,680 Speaker 4: never thought. 733 00:31:38,520 --> 00:31:39,200 Speaker 3: About her that way. 734 00:31:39,240 --> 00:31:42,000 Speaker 4: I knew she was beautiful, thought she was fun, but 735 00:31:42,160 --> 00:31:45,120 Speaker 4: the work, like we just didn't mix and like she 736 00:31:45,320 --> 00:31:47,760 Speaker 4: I was again, I was already dating, you know, I 737 00:31:47,840 --> 00:31:50,680 Speaker 4: was in relationships and she was, you know, seeing somebody 738 00:31:50,840 --> 00:31:53,480 Speaker 4: or a couple guys here and there, so like outside 739 00:31:53,520 --> 00:31:56,120 Speaker 4: of the industry. So we just never it never even 740 00:31:56,280 --> 00:31:59,200 Speaker 4: occurred until we were both single and at the right 741 00:31:59,240 --> 00:32:01,360 Speaker 4: time kind of talk to each other and spending more 742 00:32:01,400 --> 00:32:01,960 Speaker 4: time together. 743 00:32:02,040 --> 00:32:04,240 Speaker 3: And it was like, you know, the classic one thing 744 00:32:04,360 --> 00:32:04,920 Speaker 3: I'd do another. 745 00:32:05,080 --> 00:32:05,880 Speaker 1: Why was she different? 746 00:32:08,280 --> 00:32:12,520 Speaker 3: Gosh, I mean, it's so interesting because be careful. 747 00:32:12,840 --> 00:32:13,560 Speaker 5: Yeah, well. 748 00:32:17,640 --> 00:32:18,000 Speaker 1: You can't. 749 00:32:18,040 --> 00:32:22,360 Speaker 4: I can't describe it. She was just it was so effortless, 750 00:32:23,760 --> 00:32:28,320 Speaker 4: I think, effortless to talk about anything and to. 751 00:32:30,200 --> 00:32:31,040 Speaker 3: I had. I had a. 752 00:32:33,080 --> 00:32:36,120 Speaker 4: Different type of respect for her right out of the 753 00:32:36,160 --> 00:32:38,920 Speaker 4: gate because we had established a friendship for a long time. 754 00:32:39,560 --> 00:32:44,360 Speaker 4: Our relationship was based on friendship, based on a mutual respect, 755 00:32:44,520 --> 00:32:47,960 Speaker 4: and based on that kind of love as opposed to 756 00:32:48,280 --> 00:32:51,040 Speaker 4: just you know, I think I just I confused the 757 00:32:51,200 --> 00:32:54,920 Speaker 4: feeling of lust for a long time with the feeling 758 00:32:54,960 --> 00:32:57,320 Speaker 4: of love and kind of let that carry me through 759 00:32:57,920 --> 00:33:00,600 Speaker 4: into relationships that I would I would overstay my welcome 760 00:33:01,040 --> 00:33:01,640 Speaker 4: for sure. 761 00:33:03,520 --> 00:33:03,880 Speaker 1: With her. 762 00:33:03,960 --> 00:33:05,920 Speaker 3: It was never about that, you know. 763 00:33:06,040 --> 00:33:10,320 Speaker 4: It became lustful, became romantic, and it's that part of it. 764 00:33:10,400 --> 00:33:13,400 Speaker 4: It's incredible, But that was not like the base for it. 765 00:33:13,640 --> 00:33:15,520 Speaker 4: And so there was a respect and there was an 766 00:33:15,600 --> 00:33:20,280 Speaker 4: understanding and an appreciation, and I think those all those 767 00:33:20,400 --> 00:33:23,520 Speaker 4: things like laid the foundation in a way that I 768 00:33:23,600 --> 00:33:26,560 Speaker 4: had not experienced before. I mean, you can say she's 769 00:33:26,760 --> 00:33:29,560 Speaker 4: smart and funny and kind and sweet, you know, you 770 00:33:29,720 --> 00:33:32,400 Speaker 4: give all that stuff, but the basis and the foundation 771 00:33:32,680 --> 00:33:35,920 Speaker 4: for the relationship it was was unique in a way 772 00:33:36,040 --> 00:33:39,240 Speaker 4: that I had not experienced. And you know, when you 773 00:33:39,400 --> 00:33:41,920 Speaker 4: just find that person that feels like your person where 774 00:33:41,960 --> 00:33:45,880 Speaker 4: you're you know, you have that connection that's different and unique. 775 00:33:46,200 --> 00:33:46,880 Speaker 3: It was just there. 776 00:33:46,960 --> 00:33:47,160 Speaker 5: It was. 777 00:33:47,320 --> 00:33:50,320 Speaker 4: It was immediate once there, romantic, once the spark kid, 778 00:33:50,400 --> 00:33:53,160 Speaker 4: I was like, Oh, that is that's the thing. 779 00:33:53,600 --> 00:33:55,600 Speaker 3: That's what they all talk about. That's what they write 780 00:33:55,600 --> 00:33:59,720 Speaker 3: the movies, that's what they you know, you is you. 781 00:33:59,800 --> 00:34:03,280 Speaker 2: Were originally scheduled being Captain America. Nah, but they had 782 00:34:03,320 --> 00:34:08,279 Speaker 2: your scene removed. Did you know they were going to 783 00:34:08,360 --> 00:34:10,839 Speaker 2: remove that scene or were you like, what did they 784 00:34:10,840 --> 00:34:11,080 Speaker 2: call it? 785 00:34:11,200 --> 00:34:14,560 Speaker 1: Say? Well, Seth, the you didn't make you didn't survide 786 00:34:14,560 --> 00:34:15,600 Speaker 1: the cutting room floor. 787 00:34:15,520 --> 00:34:16,080 Speaker 3: That's correct. 788 00:34:16,960 --> 00:34:19,440 Speaker 4: So so that the movie went through a million rewrites, 789 00:34:19,719 --> 00:34:23,560 Speaker 4: and you know, I had gotten a call from producers. 790 00:34:23,719 --> 00:34:26,279 Speaker 4: Also a friend of mine named Nate Morey's wonderful guy, 791 00:34:26,640 --> 00:34:29,640 Speaker 4: great producer, and he was working on that film. 792 00:34:30,000 --> 00:34:32,360 Speaker 3: And uh so we had done it. We shot the 793 00:34:32,400 --> 00:34:33,840 Speaker 3: whole thing. It was awesome. 794 00:34:33,920 --> 00:34:36,000 Speaker 4: I would love to see the b roll of that 795 00:34:36,040 --> 00:34:38,560 Speaker 4: because I had some pretty six scenes in there, beating 796 00:34:38,640 --> 00:34:43,160 Speaker 4: up Anthony Mackie, and I'd love to see where that exists. 797 00:34:43,280 --> 00:34:46,960 Speaker 4: But you know, the studio wasn't happy with the direction 798 00:34:47,040 --> 00:34:50,000 Speaker 4: of the film. They wanted to change some things. And 799 00:34:50,560 --> 00:34:53,200 Speaker 4: they didn't just say hey, you're out. They actually they 800 00:34:53,560 --> 00:34:55,880 Speaker 4: called me in and they said, hey, we're repurposing this. 801 00:34:56,239 --> 00:34:57,280 Speaker 3: The beginning of this film. 802 00:34:59,280 --> 00:35:01,040 Speaker 4: You're like, I was in like kind of a group 803 00:35:01,120 --> 00:35:03,120 Speaker 4: of roles, like we were a team. We're repurposing that 804 00:35:03,320 --> 00:35:06,279 Speaker 4: into one person. They allowed me to read for the role, 805 00:35:08,000 --> 00:35:10,160 Speaker 4: you just in the chance that they saw something they 806 00:35:10,200 --> 00:35:13,960 Speaker 4: really liked and they would cast me in that. 807 00:35:14,080 --> 00:35:15,880 Speaker 3: So I read for the role and I was like, 808 00:35:16,400 --> 00:35:18,480 Speaker 3: and then I saw gian. 809 00:35:18,280 --> 00:35:21,920 Speaker 4: Carlo Esposito, Gus Fring from Breaking Bad get cast in, 810 00:35:21,960 --> 00:35:23,839 Speaker 4: and I'm like, well, I think they had their heart 811 00:35:23,880 --> 00:35:25,560 Speaker 4: set I'm not competing with that guy anyway. 812 00:35:26,040 --> 00:35:27,040 Speaker 3: That's an elite actor. 813 00:35:27,360 --> 00:35:29,560 Speaker 4: So yeah, then they called me back and we're like, naw, 814 00:35:29,600 --> 00:35:30,919 Speaker 4: you know, we're going to go in a different direction. 815 00:35:31,040 --> 00:35:32,640 Speaker 4: So at least I got a heads up. I wasn't 816 00:35:32,719 --> 00:35:34,680 Speaker 4: like waiting for that invite to the premiere and then 817 00:35:34,800 --> 00:35:36,160 Speaker 4: got sad when I didn't get one. 818 00:35:36,320 --> 00:35:37,960 Speaker 3: No, I knew it was up. 819 00:35:38,040 --> 00:35:39,400 Speaker 1: Would you do you want to do you want to 820 00:35:39,440 --> 00:35:41,160 Speaker 1: do movies or is that something you're interested in? 821 00:35:41,160 --> 00:35:44,360 Speaker 4: You no, man, I only took the I did a 822 00:35:44,480 --> 00:35:48,760 Speaker 4: WWE movie back in two thousand and sixteen, a Tormee 823 00:35:48,760 --> 00:35:52,279 Speaker 4: a cl in November of fifteen WWE Films. They had 824 00:35:52,320 --> 00:35:54,480 Speaker 4: a studio at the time. They wanted me to come 825 00:35:54,520 --> 00:35:56,200 Speaker 4: in and do a movie during my off time, which 826 00:35:56,239 --> 00:35:59,239 Speaker 4: I did. Hated every second of it. 827 00:35:59,400 --> 00:35:59,920 Speaker 3: I hated. 828 00:36:00,160 --> 00:36:01,920 Speaker 4: I did not want to do another one, which is 829 00:36:02,040 --> 00:36:05,440 Speaker 4: why I didn't take another role until Nate called me 830 00:36:05,520 --> 00:36:07,720 Speaker 4: and said, hey, would you like to do this thing. 831 00:36:07,920 --> 00:36:11,839 Speaker 3: In Captain America? And I'm like, I gotta do that, right, 832 00:36:12,000 --> 00:36:15,360 Speaker 3: you know, Captain of America. It's marvel. I gotta do that. 833 00:36:15,960 --> 00:36:17,799 Speaker 3: So but that's I just don't like it. I don't 834 00:36:17,880 --> 00:36:18,840 Speaker 3: like the process of it. 835 00:36:18,960 --> 00:36:20,560 Speaker 1: You know, it's a lot of sitting and wait. 836 00:36:20,600 --> 00:36:22,040 Speaker 3: It's a lot of sitting and waiting. 837 00:36:22,400 --> 00:36:25,040 Speaker 4: If you're waiting for months for any sort of feedback, 838 00:36:25,120 --> 00:36:26,919 Speaker 4: you don't even know if you're doing a good job. 839 00:36:27,040 --> 00:36:29,680 Speaker 3: You're doing the same thing over and over and over. 840 00:36:30,040 --> 00:36:30,440 Speaker 4: I did not. 841 00:36:30,640 --> 00:36:31,680 Speaker 3: I was not for me. 842 00:36:32,160 --> 00:36:36,360 Speaker 4: Again, if the right prospect came along, I would consider it, 843 00:36:36,560 --> 00:36:40,239 Speaker 4: But nah, I got I got my toes dipped in 844 00:36:40,320 --> 00:36:41,960 Speaker 4: some other pools right now. 845 00:36:42,160 --> 00:36:44,960 Speaker 2: So if your daughter wanted to become a wrestler, her 846 00:36:45,040 --> 00:36:47,719 Speaker 2: mom's a wrestler, her dad's a wrestler, you open to that. 847 00:36:48,080 --> 00:36:50,120 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I think if you asked me 848 00:36:50,200 --> 00:36:52,160 Speaker 4: that like twenty years ago, I just said no. You know, 849 00:36:52,680 --> 00:36:54,960 Speaker 4: like the business was in a much different place. But 850 00:36:55,440 --> 00:36:58,040 Speaker 4: thanks to my wife and some of the other women 851 00:36:58,120 --> 00:37:03,120 Speaker 4: who've really pioneered change, the way the business looks at 852 00:37:03,160 --> 00:37:06,239 Speaker 4: women now is completely different. What it means to be 853 00:37:06,320 --> 00:37:09,240 Speaker 4: successful and good in our industry is not just about. 854 00:37:09,040 --> 00:37:12,920 Speaker 3: How you look. It's about what you can do. You know, 855 00:37:13,120 --> 00:37:15,680 Speaker 3: whether you can talk. It's all the same metrics that 856 00:37:15,800 --> 00:37:16,400 Speaker 3: it is for men. 857 00:37:16,640 --> 00:37:18,919 Speaker 4: Yeah, So I think it's just a much better place 858 00:37:19,000 --> 00:37:21,239 Speaker 4: for women than it was even when I came in 859 00:37:21,600 --> 00:37:22,680 Speaker 4: in twenty twelve. 860 00:37:22,800 --> 00:37:25,640 Speaker 3: So if you wanted to do it, great, I'd support 861 00:37:25,640 --> 00:37:26,279 Speaker 3: her and help her out. 862 00:37:26,440 --> 00:37:29,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, because I mean, in the beginning, women had very 863 00:37:29,880 --> 00:37:32,600 Speaker 2: very limited roles in wrestling. I mean you might see 864 00:37:32,640 --> 00:37:34,320 Speaker 2: him like once every three to four months. 865 00:37:34,480 --> 00:37:35,800 Speaker 4: But it was, it was And then they were on 866 00:37:35,880 --> 00:37:38,360 Speaker 4: TV for two minutes and it's probably a bron panties 867 00:37:38,400 --> 00:37:41,080 Speaker 4: match or Jerry Lawler was screaming puppies or something like that. 868 00:37:41,320 --> 00:37:44,400 Speaker 3: It wasn't it was. It was awful, you know, it 869 00:37:44,520 --> 00:37:44,960 Speaker 3: was awful. 870 00:37:46,160 --> 00:37:49,759 Speaker 2: We've seen some of the biggest stars in the WWE 871 00:37:50,080 --> 00:37:53,520 Speaker 2: come on go on to become very, very big and acting. 872 00:37:54,120 --> 00:37:56,960 Speaker 2: We see Rock he's probably your biggest, and you got Batista, 873 00:37:57,360 --> 00:38:03,120 Speaker 2: you see Roman Reigns. You said, that's not something that 874 00:38:03,200 --> 00:38:04,239 Speaker 2: you're really interested in. 875 00:38:05,800 --> 00:38:06,800 Speaker 1: Do you think those. 876 00:38:06,680 --> 00:38:09,560 Speaker 2: Guys got into WWE thinking they would it would transition 877 00:38:09,680 --> 00:38:12,360 Speaker 2: them into acting, Because I remember rocking The Mummy and 878 00:38:12,440 --> 00:38:14,120 Speaker 2: the next thing I know, he's in the Scorpion King 879 00:38:14,160 --> 00:38:14,920 Speaker 2: and the next thing I know. 880 00:38:15,000 --> 00:38:18,399 Speaker 1: He's the Rock. I mean, he's DJ, he's huge, he's 881 00:38:18,480 --> 00:38:19,040 Speaker 1: doing everything. 882 00:38:19,200 --> 00:38:21,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, the same thing. But Batista, No, you know, I 883 00:38:21,480 --> 00:38:23,279 Speaker 3: don't think so. I think they all, you know, they 884 00:38:23,400 --> 00:38:24,560 Speaker 3: came into it different ways. 885 00:38:24,719 --> 00:38:27,280 Speaker 4: Like you look at the big ones like John Cena 886 00:38:27,520 --> 00:38:30,160 Speaker 4: and DJ, and they both i mean DJ grew up 887 00:38:30,200 --> 00:38:34,400 Speaker 4: in it, right his dad, Yeah, his grandpa, like all 888 00:38:34,480 --> 00:38:36,600 Speaker 4: his family, he's a part of it. So he grew 889 00:38:36,680 --> 00:38:39,000 Speaker 4: up around it. You know, tried college ball, it was 890 00:38:39,120 --> 00:38:41,360 Speaker 4: really good, got hurt cause he didn't make the pros 891 00:38:42,360 --> 00:38:43,919 Speaker 4: and say, hey, let me give this thing a shot. 892 00:38:44,360 --> 00:38:47,040 Speaker 4: And you know, he just had an attitude for it 893 00:38:47,080 --> 00:38:49,040 Speaker 4: because it was he'd been around it his whole life. 894 00:38:49,080 --> 00:38:50,280 Speaker 4: And he's his natural performance. 895 00:38:50,280 --> 00:38:50,760 Speaker 1: He's perfect. 896 00:38:50,760 --> 00:38:53,000 Speaker 2: I mean he's yeah, you know, six four, two hundred 897 00:38:53,000 --> 00:38:55,480 Speaker 2: and fifty pounds athletic, can dump and dumble can do. 898 00:38:56,040 --> 00:38:58,440 Speaker 4: You know, he's got it all man, I mean, he's 899 00:38:58,440 --> 00:39:02,319 Speaker 4: a total package, perfect just but he but his goal 900 00:39:02,440 --> 00:39:04,200 Speaker 4: was never to be around for a long time, right. 901 00:39:04,320 --> 00:39:07,279 Speaker 4: He wanted to kickstart and go to Hollywood. And when 902 00:39:07,280 --> 00:39:09,480 Speaker 4: he got that opportunity, he he you know, made the 903 00:39:09,560 --> 00:39:11,960 Speaker 4: most of it. John same way, loved the business, just 904 00:39:12,040 --> 00:39:14,520 Speaker 4: wanted to be a wrestler, Like he was working in gyms. 905 00:39:14,280 --> 00:39:14,840 Speaker 3: And stuff like that. 906 00:39:14,960 --> 00:39:17,520 Speaker 4: Got an opportunity to get trained and become a wrestler 907 00:39:17,840 --> 00:39:19,680 Speaker 4: and did it. And just was like, I love this, 908 00:39:19,840 --> 00:39:23,040 Speaker 4: I'm gonna do this. And then eventually, you know, the role, 909 00:39:23,160 --> 00:39:25,160 Speaker 4: Hollywood came calling, it came asking, and he was. 910 00:39:25,320 --> 00:39:27,440 Speaker 3: He he developed the love for that. 911 00:39:27,880 --> 00:39:30,879 Speaker 4: Now he's you know, John Scene of the Action Star. 912 00:39:32,120 --> 00:39:34,240 Speaker 4: So yeah, I think when you see the people transition, 913 00:39:34,400 --> 00:39:37,400 Speaker 4: it's it's they have a genuine passion for our industry 914 00:39:37,760 --> 00:39:41,240 Speaker 4: and Hollywood sees that they see marketability in these guys 915 00:39:41,440 --> 00:39:44,799 Speaker 4: and or girls, and they come and the opportunities are there, 916 00:39:44,840 --> 00:39:46,600 Speaker 4: and you know, some people love it and want to 917 00:39:46,680 --> 00:39:48,239 Speaker 4: do it and are great at it. 918 00:39:48,400 --> 00:39:48,840 Speaker 3: That ain't me. 919 00:39:49,880 --> 00:39:51,319 Speaker 1: What's the what's a root team? 920 00:39:51,480 --> 00:39:51,520 Speaker 4: Like? 921 00:39:51,640 --> 00:39:53,800 Speaker 1: So what's your what's your week? Like? 922 00:39:54,320 --> 00:39:54,400 Speaker 5: Uh? 923 00:39:54,480 --> 00:39:56,359 Speaker 1: As far as working out when you're on the when 924 00:39:56,400 --> 00:39:58,880 Speaker 1: you're on the document, yeah, I'll. 925 00:39:58,800 --> 00:40:01,080 Speaker 3: Train like four or five times a week usually. 926 00:40:02,000 --> 00:40:02,160 Speaker 1: Man. 927 00:40:02,239 --> 00:40:04,640 Speaker 4: I used to train like a psychopath and then you know, 928 00:40:04,680 --> 00:40:06,480 Speaker 4: I hit thirty five and I just didn't recover the 929 00:40:06,520 --> 00:40:07,880 Speaker 4: way I used to. And I was like, you know, 930 00:40:07,920 --> 00:40:09,880 Speaker 4: I think I pump it down a little bit, so, 931 00:40:10,239 --> 00:40:11,960 Speaker 4: you know, and then I became a dad as well, 932 00:40:12,040 --> 00:40:15,920 Speaker 4: and you know, your time just changes. Yeah, your priorities 933 00:40:16,000 --> 00:40:17,480 Speaker 4: change a little bit. And I didn't want to be 934 00:40:17,520 --> 00:40:19,320 Speaker 4: at the gym for two and a half hours anymore, 935 00:40:19,440 --> 00:40:21,160 Speaker 4: you know. And so I didn't want to train seven 936 00:40:21,239 --> 00:40:23,239 Speaker 4: days a week anymore. I wanted to spend time with 937 00:40:23,320 --> 00:40:26,080 Speaker 4: my kid and my family and all that stuff. So yeah, 938 00:40:26,120 --> 00:40:28,799 Speaker 4: I mean, I'll do like four four days a week. 939 00:40:28,960 --> 00:40:31,719 Speaker 4: We travel on Sunday, do the show on Monday. Occasionally 940 00:40:31,719 --> 00:40:34,160 Speaker 4: there's the paper V's on Saturday. And it's a longer weekend, 941 00:40:35,440 --> 00:40:37,239 Speaker 4: you know. I again, I'm a little bit older, so 942 00:40:37,280 --> 00:40:39,400 Speaker 4: I got to count what I'm eating. You know, Wrestling 943 00:40:39,480 --> 00:40:41,160 Speaker 4: is in aesthetic business, so I got I got to 944 00:40:41,200 --> 00:40:42,000 Speaker 4: look a certain way. 945 00:40:43,239 --> 00:40:43,400 Speaker 1: You know. 946 00:40:43,480 --> 00:40:46,399 Speaker 4: I try to get some body work done once a week, 947 00:40:46,600 --> 00:40:48,920 Speaker 4: just to make sure everything's tidy. If I've got something 948 00:40:48,960 --> 00:40:51,319 Speaker 4: that's worse, you know, I might get a couple couple 949 00:40:51,440 --> 00:40:52,000 Speaker 4: times a week. 950 00:40:52,719 --> 00:40:54,840 Speaker 3: Get the girl over to the house, get the elbow 951 00:40:54,960 --> 00:40:55,840 Speaker 3: in the knos, you know. 952 00:40:56,120 --> 00:40:58,680 Speaker 4: So I mean, and that's it, And then I try 953 00:40:58,719 --> 00:41:00,719 Speaker 4: to be a dad when I'm home, take my kid 954 00:41:00,800 --> 00:41:02,640 Speaker 4: to school and pick her up from school, and do 955 00:41:02,719 --> 00:41:06,680 Speaker 4: all the stuff she used to when she was younger. 956 00:41:06,800 --> 00:41:09,640 Speaker 4: She started like preschool this year, and so she's kind 957 00:41:09,680 --> 00:41:10,760 Speaker 4: of locked in in one place. 958 00:41:10,880 --> 00:41:11,000 Speaker 1: Right. 959 00:41:11,040 --> 00:41:14,200 Speaker 3: We'll still take her on like some select trips. But Becky. 960 00:41:14,760 --> 00:41:17,120 Speaker 4: So she's born in December twenty twenty, and Becky was 961 00:41:17,239 --> 00:41:19,239 Speaker 4: off until July of twenty one. 962 00:41:19,719 --> 00:41:21,000 Speaker 3: And then once Becky was. 963 00:41:21,040 --> 00:41:24,719 Speaker 4: Back in July, our daughter came with us everywhere. Every 964 00:41:24,800 --> 00:41:27,000 Speaker 4: she came with us every weekend. We took her all 965 00:41:27,000 --> 00:41:27,560 Speaker 4: over the world. 966 00:41:27,960 --> 00:41:29,919 Speaker 3: It was awesome. I mean it was it was hard, 967 00:41:30,000 --> 00:41:30,840 Speaker 3: but it was awesome. 968 00:41:31,040 --> 00:41:34,080 Speaker 4: I mean, not everybody who's like a traveling, working parent 969 00:41:34,120 --> 00:41:37,200 Speaker 4: gets the opportunity to just like take their kid everywhere 970 00:41:37,239 --> 00:41:39,120 Speaker 4: in the world with them, and we were so fortunate 971 00:41:39,120 --> 00:41:40,000 Speaker 4: to be able to spend that time. 972 00:41:40,200 --> 00:41:43,040 Speaker 2: Is a situation now that you guys alternate weekends or something, 973 00:41:43,080 --> 00:41:43,920 Speaker 2: when you she's. 974 00:41:43,719 --> 00:41:46,280 Speaker 1: On the road, you're at home, you're on my MoMA. 975 00:41:46,440 --> 00:41:48,200 Speaker 3: My mom moved out to Los Angeles. 976 00:41:48,239 --> 00:41:49,240 Speaker 1: Okay, that's awesome. 977 00:41:49,360 --> 00:41:51,840 Speaker 4: Yeah, my mom's out there, so Grandma. She gets to 978 00:41:51,840 --> 00:41:54,279 Speaker 4: spend time with grandma, you know. But we just make 979 00:41:54,360 --> 00:41:57,320 Speaker 4: your work. If if you know, Becky's gone, she was 980 00:41:57,400 --> 00:41:59,800 Speaker 4: just gone for a good three three weeks stretch or so, 981 00:42:00,320 --> 00:42:02,840 Speaker 4: and fortunately I was hurting home and able to do 982 00:42:03,000 --> 00:42:05,000 Speaker 4: it and I wasn't on the road. But yeah, I mean, 983 00:42:05,080 --> 00:42:07,759 Speaker 4: if if the schedule looks daunting and we're gonna be 984 00:42:07,800 --> 00:42:09,080 Speaker 4: gone for long periods of time. 985 00:42:09,560 --> 00:42:10,320 Speaker 3: We'll get ahead of it. 986 00:42:10,719 --> 00:42:13,120 Speaker 4: We'll talk to WW and there's so much better now 987 00:42:13,200 --> 00:42:17,240 Speaker 4: than they than days past, where they are more family friendly. 988 00:42:17,360 --> 00:42:19,719 Speaker 4: They are like, hey, let's make this work. And there's 989 00:42:19,760 --> 00:42:21,840 Speaker 4: not a lot of Like Becky and I are pretty 990 00:42:21,920 --> 00:42:24,160 Speaker 4: unique in the sense that we both do the gig right. 991 00:42:24,680 --> 00:42:27,200 Speaker 4: Like a lot of times when people have kids, it's 992 00:42:27,360 --> 00:42:29,560 Speaker 4: you know, their partner stays at home. They don't, they 993 00:42:29,600 --> 00:42:32,360 Speaker 4: don't have they work from home, they have a regular 994 00:42:32,480 --> 00:42:35,440 Speaker 4: job or whatever. So we're very unique situation where we 995 00:42:35,560 --> 00:42:38,640 Speaker 4: both do this and w W has been extremely accommodating 996 00:42:38,680 --> 00:42:41,520 Speaker 4: and helping us make sure that our kid is you know, 997 00:42:41,680 --> 00:42:43,160 Speaker 4: has a parent there at all times. 998 00:42:44,840 --> 00:42:47,000 Speaker 1: When you have to go to the bathroom. 999 00:42:49,480 --> 00:42:52,680 Speaker 4: In the ring, it never happens, really, no, no, no, no, no, 1000 00:42:52,880 --> 00:42:54,719 Speaker 4: I mean you were not playing. You guys got a 1001 00:42:55,160 --> 00:42:56,800 Speaker 4: three hour game, you know what I mean. That's you know, 1002 00:42:57,320 --> 00:43:00,359 Speaker 4: our matches are at most, you know, crazy he wanted 1003 00:43:00,400 --> 00:43:02,040 Speaker 4: to be an hour long, like the roller rumbles an 1004 00:43:02,040 --> 00:43:03,719 Speaker 4: hour long, but you're not in there for the whole time, 1005 00:43:03,800 --> 00:43:06,520 Speaker 4: so you know, you don't it never, it never occurs. 1006 00:43:06,239 --> 00:43:08,120 Speaker 1: To me so you know, nobody's ever had to go 1007 00:43:08,200 --> 00:43:08,840 Speaker 1: to the bathroom. 1008 00:43:08,920 --> 00:43:11,800 Speaker 3: I'm sure it has happened. It's I mean, it's like 1009 00:43:12,000 --> 00:43:14,279 Speaker 3: it's just like it's not there, you know what I mean. 1010 00:43:15,000 --> 00:43:16,760 Speaker 1: You know we got we go on the sideline. 1011 00:43:16,880 --> 00:43:18,560 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah, we get a nervous like I have 1012 00:43:18,600 --> 00:43:20,640 Speaker 4: a nervous piece sometimes before the match, you know what 1013 00:43:20,680 --> 00:43:20,920 Speaker 4: I mean. 1014 00:43:20,960 --> 00:43:22,880 Speaker 3: I gotta run to the bathroom real quick and get 1015 00:43:22,880 --> 00:43:24,640 Speaker 3: it out. But once it's out, I'm good. Yeah, once 1016 00:43:24,680 --> 00:43:27,680 Speaker 3: i'm and once I'm through the curtains there, it's done. 1017 00:43:27,840 --> 00:43:30,120 Speaker 1: So well, that would be bad. 1018 00:43:30,640 --> 00:43:31,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, it would not be fun. 1019 00:43:32,200 --> 00:43:34,200 Speaker 1: Hey, I gotta go to the bathroom. Yeah, you gotta 1020 00:43:34,400 --> 00:43:35,239 Speaker 1: go ahead and count me out. 1021 00:43:35,320 --> 00:43:37,040 Speaker 3: I know I'm gonna roll under the ring, get a 1022 00:43:37,080 --> 00:43:38,160 Speaker 3: little bottle and go. 1023 00:43:38,600 --> 00:43:40,080 Speaker 1: You know, you roll up on a ring. That's what 1024 00:43:40,160 --> 00:43:40,360 Speaker 1: you did. 1025 00:43:40,440 --> 00:43:41,880 Speaker 3: I'd be if you needed to do it. That'd be 1026 00:43:41,960 --> 00:43:43,760 Speaker 3: how you do it. You go, get a water bottle 1027 00:43:43,800 --> 00:43:45,880 Speaker 3: in there, a Gatoray bottle or something, roll under the 1028 00:43:45,960 --> 00:43:47,759 Speaker 3: ring and do your thing. Get back out real quick. 1029 00:43:48,560 --> 00:43:48,799 Speaker 1: Wow. 1030 00:43:49,600 --> 00:43:51,560 Speaker 4: I see I've known guys who've actually ran to the 1031 00:43:51,640 --> 00:43:54,120 Speaker 4: back and not on TV like a live like on 1032 00:43:54,160 --> 00:43:55,439 Speaker 4: a non televised event. 1033 00:43:55,600 --> 00:43:58,359 Speaker 3: Like they'll like do something, go to the back, come back, 1034 00:43:59,600 --> 00:44:00,719 Speaker 3: But never happened to me. 1035 00:44:00,880 --> 00:44:05,520 Speaker 2: Not come We know you are a big, huge, genormous 1036 00:44:05,600 --> 00:44:09,440 Speaker 2: Bears face. Yes, sir, they might be here in Indiana, 1037 00:44:09,640 --> 00:44:10,680 Speaker 2: the Indiana Bears. 1038 00:44:10,800 --> 00:44:15,719 Speaker 3: Oh god, there's no way. Come on, can you even 1039 00:44:15,760 --> 00:44:18,920 Speaker 3: imagine it? Can you even imagine that the Gary Bears 1040 00:44:19,440 --> 00:44:22,840 Speaker 3: get out of here? Get out of here? You know, 1041 00:44:23,160 --> 00:44:25,840 Speaker 3: look that that's a pr stunt. 1042 00:44:25,880 --> 00:44:26,399 Speaker 1: There's no way. 1043 00:44:26,480 --> 00:44:30,839 Speaker 3: That's that's that's that's Kevin Moran's going. Come on, yeah, 1044 00:44:31,040 --> 00:44:33,040 Speaker 3: keep keep pushing. They're not leaving Illinois. 1045 00:44:33,239 --> 00:44:35,440 Speaker 1: Well, they said the same thing about the Chiefs not 1046 00:44:35,560 --> 00:44:36,280 Speaker 1: leaving Missouri. 1047 00:44:36,880 --> 00:44:38,800 Speaker 3: That's fair, that's fair. I mean, as long as we 1048 00:44:38,880 --> 00:44:40,080 Speaker 3: still call them Chicago Bears. 1049 00:44:40,760 --> 00:44:43,160 Speaker 1: How you gonna call thembout Chicago Bears with in Indiana? 1050 00:44:43,320 --> 00:44:45,239 Speaker 3: I mean, if you other Kansas City, I mean, I 1051 00:44:45,280 --> 00:44:46,279 Speaker 3: guess Kansas City is the same. 1052 00:44:46,960 --> 00:44:48,360 Speaker 1: I can't cuber. 1053 00:44:48,760 --> 00:44:51,040 Speaker 3: Well, we're just gonna have to rename Gary. It's just 1054 00:44:51,120 --> 00:44:55,200 Speaker 3: gonna have to be Chicago. Chicago. Indiana just changed the 1055 00:44:55,280 --> 00:44:55,680 Speaker 3: dang thing. 1056 00:44:56,680 --> 00:44:59,600 Speaker 1: What you you saw the vast improvement from the Bears 1057 00:44:59,640 --> 00:45:00,840 Speaker 1: this year. Oh it was great. 1058 00:45:01,040 --> 00:45:03,759 Speaker 2: You'd see they brought in Ben Johnson, Caleb Williams to 1059 00:45:04,000 --> 00:45:08,120 Speaker 2: performed unbelievable. The defense played better, you got skill position, 1060 00:45:08,200 --> 00:45:11,120 Speaker 2: but Ben Jonson is the big reason. Yeah, what has 1061 00:45:11,200 --> 00:45:14,160 Speaker 2: you so enthusiastic about the Bears moving forward? 1062 00:45:14,320 --> 00:45:16,520 Speaker 3: I mean, just you They've got it. They've got a 1063 00:45:16,600 --> 00:45:17,560 Speaker 3: quarterback and a coach. 1064 00:45:17,960 --> 00:45:21,320 Speaker 4: And if that says synced up and you stay in 1065 00:45:21,400 --> 00:45:23,960 Speaker 4: that same system, I mean you see the modern NFL, 1066 00:45:24,080 --> 00:45:26,799 Speaker 4: that is the recipe for success, especially when you look 1067 00:45:26,840 --> 00:45:29,279 Speaker 4: at the big dynasties. You look at Brady and Belichick, 1068 00:45:29,680 --> 00:45:33,480 Speaker 4: you look at Mahomes and Reid. I mean, that's it, 1069 00:45:33,800 --> 00:45:35,560 Speaker 4: you know what I mean you want, That's what you want, 1070 00:45:35,600 --> 00:45:36,840 Speaker 4: and that's what everybody looks for. 1071 00:45:37,360 --> 00:45:40,160 Speaker 3: And so when when you and you see teams that. 1072 00:45:40,560 --> 00:45:45,400 Speaker 4: Getting rid of coaches and drafting quarterbacks, just hiring coaches 1073 00:45:45,480 --> 00:45:47,600 Speaker 4: just so they can link them up like that, you know. So, 1074 00:45:47,840 --> 00:45:51,680 Speaker 4: I mean, I think when you've got the guy behind center, 1075 00:45:51,840 --> 00:45:54,359 Speaker 4: who's tough, you can throw the ball, wants to learn, 1076 00:45:54,480 --> 00:45:56,320 Speaker 4: wants to get better, and you've got the guy calling 1077 00:45:56,400 --> 00:45:58,760 Speaker 4: the plays who also seems to be a great leader. 1078 00:45:58,840 --> 00:46:01,560 Speaker 4: From what I can understand, players want to play for him. 1079 00:46:03,200 --> 00:46:05,720 Speaker 4: You know, that's the recipe for success, and it feels 1080 00:46:05,880 --> 00:46:09,440 Speaker 4: like this year felt different than for the Bears. You know, 1081 00:46:09,480 --> 00:46:11,560 Speaker 4: they over the last twenty years, they've had a couple 1082 00:46:11,600 --> 00:46:13,680 Speaker 4: of seasons that you know, you look good, and you 1083 00:46:13,760 --> 00:46:16,719 Speaker 4: know they had had Naggie's first year. Got Strubisky said, 1084 00:46:16,719 --> 00:46:20,560 Speaker 4: oh baby, this just felt different. Man felt different this 1085 00:46:20,719 --> 00:46:23,480 Speaker 4: year with Caleb and you know, could be wrong, could 1086 00:46:23,480 --> 00:46:25,920 Speaker 4: be a wash next year. The NFL's crazy place. But 1087 00:46:27,320 --> 00:46:29,200 Speaker 4: I went to some of the games at Soldier Fields 1088 00:46:29,239 --> 00:46:31,560 Speaker 4: this year. It was a really special experience to be 1089 00:46:31,640 --> 00:46:32,719 Speaker 4: there and watch this team. 1090 00:46:33,239 --> 00:46:35,279 Speaker 1: Can you guys win a championship? How soon before you 1091 00:46:35,320 --> 00:46:36,320 Speaker 1: guys win a championship? 1092 00:46:36,400 --> 00:46:38,839 Speaker 4: You know, I honestly thought and I predicted the Bears 1093 00:46:38,880 --> 00:46:40,440 Speaker 4: would have a really good season, but some of that 1094 00:46:40,600 --> 00:46:42,520 Speaker 4: was a little you know, just me having a good time. 1095 00:46:42,600 --> 00:46:43,400 Speaker 3: I'll be honest with you. 1096 00:46:43,480 --> 00:46:47,239 Speaker 4: They exceeded my expectations this year. They exceeded my expectations 1097 00:46:47,320 --> 00:46:49,360 Speaker 4: this year. And I think everybody kind of thought it 1098 00:46:49,480 --> 00:46:51,680 Speaker 4: might take two years to get them where we wanted, 1099 00:46:51,800 --> 00:46:52,640 Speaker 4: you know where, where. 1100 00:46:52,560 --> 00:46:53,600 Speaker 3: What's this going to look like? 1101 00:46:53,680 --> 00:46:56,000 Speaker 4: With Caleb Williams right, the fact that they were able 1102 00:46:56,080 --> 00:47:01,560 Speaker 4: to progress so quickly and start winning games and continue 1103 00:47:01,600 --> 00:47:04,040 Speaker 4: to win games through the season, win the North with 1104 00:47:04,520 --> 00:47:06,160 Speaker 4: the Packers and the Lions. 1105 00:47:06,600 --> 00:47:07,680 Speaker 3: I mean, the Vikings had a. 1106 00:47:07,680 --> 00:47:09,800 Speaker 4: Great year last year, but the Sam Darnold thing was 1107 00:47:09,880 --> 00:47:12,720 Speaker 4: chaos for them. You know, they might live to regret 1108 00:47:12,800 --> 00:47:16,160 Speaker 4: that decision. I think the Bears to win the North 1109 00:47:16,200 --> 00:47:19,000 Speaker 4: this year was was huge. I think they were and 1110 00:47:19,280 --> 00:47:22,200 Speaker 4: I look the Packers game wild Card game I was 1111 00:47:22,320 --> 00:47:24,879 Speaker 4: nervous about. I actually thought they were. I was kind 1112 00:47:24,920 --> 00:47:26,920 Speaker 4: of not too scared about the Rams. I thought they 1113 00:47:26,960 --> 00:47:31,399 Speaker 4: were gonna win that game, and very close they're there. 1114 00:47:31,600 --> 00:47:33,479 Speaker 4: I mean, you took a look at the elite teams 1115 00:47:33,520 --> 00:47:36,200 Speaker 4: in the NFC. I don't think they're that far off. 1116 00:47:36,280 --> 00:47:38,520 Speaker 4: If everybody stays put and they get healthy and they 1117 00:47:39,800 --> 00:47:42,280 Speaker 4: you know, they keep going that offense. 1118 00:47:42,640 --> 00:47:46,279 Speaker 3: You only touched on what it could be. So yes, 1119 00:47:46,360 --> 00:47:47,280 Speaker 3: they can win a Super. 1120 00:47:47,120 --> 00:47:48,560 Speaker 1: Bowl with Seth. Thanks for. 1121 00:47:51,800 --> 00:47:52,640 Speaker 3: Great chats man. 1122 00:47:52,960 --> 00:47:55,200 Speaker 2: Thank you to the Cliff Hotel for hosting us at 1123 00:47:55,280 --> 00:47:58,920 Speaker 2: this beautiful redwood room. 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