WEBVTT - Will Smith Invites Venus and Serena to the Table 0:00:00.280 --> 0:00:02.720 Hey, fam I'm Jada Pinkett Smith and this is the 0:00:02.759 --> 0:00:06.120 Red Table Talk podcast all your favorite episodes from the 0:00:06.120 --> 0:00:10.280 Facebook watch show in audio produced by Westbrook Audio and 0:00:10.360 --> 0:00:13.360 I Heart Radio. Please don't forget to rate and review 0:00:13.680 --> 0:00:28.400 on Apple podcasts. Yeah, all right, see this this is 0:00:28.440 --> 0:00:32.879 skills now watched. Why I try boom? Huh all right, 0:00:33.600 --> 0:00:38.239 I'm warming up for my Red Table takeover. I've invited 0:00:38.320 --> 0:00:41.720 five extraordinary women from one of the most famous families 0:00:41.800 --> 0:00:45.800 in the world that have invaluable life lessons, very special guests. 0:00:45.800 --> 0:00:48.480 You are not gonna want to miss this one. Stay 0:00:48.560 --> 0:00:57.279 right there. Boom. This is exciting, lit, very exciting. This 0:00:57.360 --> 0:01:00.920 is a very special Red Table is for a very 0:01:00.920 --> 0:01:03.360 special movie that you were starting in. We have Venus 0:01:03.440 --> 0:01:06.520 and Serena and they're they're around here somewhere. I always 0:01:06.520 --> 0:01:09.319 wonder why you come like to the Red Table before 0:01:09.560 --> 0:01:13.640 I do my takeovers. Are you concerned? I am always concerned. 0:01:13.720 --> 0:01:17.560 It's just that last minute of grounding. Yes, so I 0:01:17.560 --> 0:01:20.320 don't break the Red Table. That's right, Okay, you do 0:01:20.440 --> 0:01:24.800 great Red Table takeover. Yes, it's Will Smith's Red Table over, 0:01:25.480 --> 0:01:33.600 so technically you're trespassing. I'm trying to get on technically. Technically, 0:01:33.840 --> 0:01:38.000 the sign it says Will Smith's Red Table takeover right, 0:01:38.319 --> 0:01:43.960 sounds like a no trustpassing sign that you walked past 0:01:44.000 --> 0:01:47.760 this guy. Do I look good? How to look? This's 0:01:47.800 --> 0:01:52.840 this's the right? No right? That would be weird when 0:01:52.840 --> 0:01:55.520 somebody played your father. Can you imagine how weird that 0:01:55.960 --> 0:01:59.840 we and you did such a great job. Kudos, kudos? 0:02:00.680 --> 0:02:03.080 You know you don't use that word a lot. I don't. 0:02:03.920 --> 0:02:07.520 I don't use kudos. Kudos is not really a negronic word. 0:02:07.600 --> 0:02:10.080 We don't say that. Our people don't say kudos. That's true. 0:02:10.320 --> 0:02:14.200 Kudos is up there with to shade. You want to 0:02:14.200 --> 0:02:17.560 bring them out. They're here, Venus and Serena. We're gonna, 0:02:17.639 --> 0:02:20.400 we're gonna start. They're ready to everybody's ready. I'm ready, 0:02:21.080 --> 0:02:34.280 ladies and gentlemen, Venus and Serena. Where colors look at 0:02:34.320 --> 0:02:37.160 the table, have a seat. I just came in here, 0:02:38.600 --> 0:02:41.239 right right here, making sure everything goes right. Yeah, I 0:02:41.400 --> 0:02:46.000 just want to I love you. Have a good one, 0:02:46.160 --> 0:02:50.640 all right. Let us begin with what brings us to 0:02:50.720 --> 0:02:53.639 the table. So I have a new movie coming out 0:02:53.760 --> 0:02:57.960 November nineteen in theaters and on HBO, Max called King 0:02:58.080 --> 0:03:02.360 Richard and you know, I play your dad, and uh, 0:03:02.520 --> 0:03:06.880 you too are executive producers of the film along with 0:03:07.520 --> 0:03:10.800 your sister Isha. And let's roll the trailer. Let's check 0:03:10.840 --> 0:03:13.760 the trailer out first so people know what we're talking about. Now. 0:03:13.760 --> 0:03:15.480 I mean, mind you saying we're hold on these kids. 0:03:15.520 --> 0:03:19.320 You know who I because we are. That's our job 0:03:19.639 --> 0:03:23.040 to keep mark these streets. You want to check on 0:03:23.120 --> 0:03:27.440 the kids. Let's check on the kids. We got future doctors, lawyers, 0:03:27.600 --> 0:03:30.320 plus a couple of tennis stars in this house. The 0:03:30.440 --> 0:03:33.959 chances of achieving the kind of success that you're talking about, 0:03:34.240 --> 0:03:37.320 it's just very, very unlikely. Okay, you make a mistink, 0:03:37.360 --> 0:03:40.640 but I'm gonna let you make it. Watch a few balls, 0:03:40.800 --> 0:03:43.920 all right, So tell me your names and again I'm Venus. 0:03:47.840 --> 0:03:52.520 So what do you think? I wrote me a seventy 0:03:52.560 --> 0:03:54.920 eight page plan for their whole career before they was 0:03:54.960 --> 0:03:58.720 even born. These girls so great? How come I've never 0:03:58.760 --> 0:04:01.560 heard them there from camp? It's okay, they're just not 0:04:01.720 --> 0:04:04.480 used to seeing good looking people's like, uh, I think 0:04:04.520 --> 0:04:07.200 you might just having next Michael Jordan's or no, brother, man, 0:04:07.360 --> 0:04:12.320 I got meet the next two. This next step you're 0:04:12.320 --> 0:04:15.400 about to take, you're not gonna just be representing you. 0:04:15.400 --> 0:04:18.919 You're gonna be representing every little black girl on earth. 0:04:20.400 --> 0:04:25.359 They're not gonna lets you doubt how could you this world? 0:04:25.400 --> 0:04:28.520 They never had no respect for Richie Williams, but they're 0:04:28.520 --> 0:04:32.720 gonna respect y'all. You don't walk out there with your 0:04:32.800 --> 0:04:40.000 head up. You are champion and the whole world knowing 0:04:41.160 --> 0:04:45.479 the most dangerous creature on this whole earth. It's a 0:04:45.560 --> 0:04:49.240 woman who know how to think. Yes, Daddy, ain't nothing. 0:04:49.320 --> 0:05:00.359 She can't do it. You're want showing my dangerous you are. Yeah, Yeah, 0:05:01.680 --> 0:05:10.320 Venus and Sabrina, I'm gonna shake up this world. Wow, 0:05:11.320 --> 0:05:15.919 what does that feel like? It's really overwhelming, you know, 0:05:15.960 --> 0:05:19.560 it never gets old. It's definitely surreal and uh, it's 0:05:19.600 --> 0:05:23.920 definitely super super emotional. What was interesting for me that 0:05:24.000 --> 0:05:28.360 was the most terrifying part. So you both are executive 0:05:28.360 --> 0:05:33.680 producers of the film, but you withheld whether or not 0:05:33.800 --> 0:05:36.520 you were going to be executive producers until you saw 0:05:36.560 --> 0:05:44.719 the film. It's a it's a it's a complicated story 0:05:44.760 --> 0:05:47.120 to tell. And as you know, my dad is such 0:05:47.160 --> 0:05:50.359 a I always say he's before his time. Down to 0:05:50.480 --> 0:05:52.719 just marketing and even just to put us in a 0:05:52.760 --> 0:05:56.880 sport that was completely a white sport, and then to 0:05:56.920 --> 0:05:58.600 say that we were going to be the best at 0:05:58.640 --> 0:06:00.599 it. It It was something that knowing had ever done before. 0:06:00.680 --> 0:06:03.560 So um, and you know, Hollywood can be you know, 0:06:03.600 --> 0:06:04.919 they could get it right or they can get it 0:06:04.920 --> 0:06:10.800 wrong sometimes. Yeah, yeah, yeah, we wanted our story to 0:06:10.839 --> 0:06:12.760 make sure that it would be something that was really 0:06:12.920 --> 0:06:17.640 we're proud of and you did, like, how do you 0:06:17.680 --> 0:06:22.320 feel when you see it? For me? Um, you know, 0:06:22.480 --> 0:06:26.159 I wanted to honor the two of you and to 0:06:26.320 --> 0:06:33.080 honor your family in a way that would resonate with 0:06:33.200 --> 0:06:37.680 your heart forever. I did it with Muhammed Ali, and 0:06:37.720 --> 0:06:40.760 I didn't want to do it, and Muhammed Ali asked 0:06:40.760 --> 0:06:46.919 me personally, you know, it is such a daunting task 0:06:47.200 --> 0:06:52.040 what you guys represent in the world and what you've created. 0:06:52.440 --> 0:06:56.920 Your story is one of the most inspirational stories in 0:06:57.320 --> 0:07:01.880 American history. And when you make a movie, it's it's 0:07:01.880 --> 0:07:06.159 an opportunity to It's like you take a snapshot that 0:07:06.279 --> 0:07:10.280 lasts forever, you know, so, and you just don't want 0:07:10.280 --> 0:07:18.000 to take a terrible picture of such beautiful subjects. Yes, 0:07:18.320 --> 0:07:22.120 your dad is a lot like my dad, where like 0:07:22.360 --> 0:07:32.840 everything lessons, Yeah, and it's crazy because I've kind of 0:07:32.880 --> 0:07:37.600 become like that with with my kids. Also, what were 0:07:37.960 --> 0:07:41.760 some of the foundational lessons that you felt like we're 0:07:41.760 --> 0:07:44.640 being instilled my mom and dad, they wanted us to 0:07:44.640 --> 0:07:46.840 be able to handle whatever life came at us. So 0:07:46.880 --> 0:07:50.240 the way we approached tennis was also how you approach life. 0:07:50.480 --> 0:07:53.560 Like when you get on the court, you never accept defeat, 0:07:53.600 --> 0:07:56.200 you give it, you're all, you find a way, and 0:07:56.240 --> 0:07:58.680 that translated to life as well. They wanted us to 0:07:58.720 --> 0:08:03.280 be champions in life and it turned out pretty good. Yeah, 0:08:03.400 --> 0:08:06.880 that's beautiful. The first lesson for us with spirituality but 0:08:07.040 --> 0:08:09.880 God first, and that gave us an opportunity to actually 0:08:09.880 --> 0:08:12.320 be better at what we do because we were able 0:08:12.320 --> 0:08:14.840 to realize, as much as you wanted, this is just 0:08:15.120 --> 0:08:17.400 working a job, There's so much more and bigger things 0:08:17.440 --> 0:08:20.440 in life. That's the foundational lesson that has literally helped 0:08:20.560 --> 0:08:24.160 us to maintain our mental health. So what does that 0:08:24.200 --> 0:08:27.800 mean for you? Putting God first? How does the thought 0:08:27.840 --> 0:08:32.680 of God affect training and being on the court and 0:08:32.760 --> 0:08:36.000 interacting with people that's a difficult. It really affects in 0:08:36.120 --> 0:08:38.600 every single decision you make. How do you treat this 0:08:38.640 --> 0:08:41.280 person or how do you even approach a match and 0:08:41.360 --> 0:08:45.080 almost takes a little pressure off of you because you know, like, okay, 0:08:45.600 --> 0:08:47.800 nobody wants to win this match more than me. But 0:08:48.400 --> 0:08:50.960 for us, there's something much bigger that we believe in 0:08:51.000 --> 0:08:52.640 and that we know is true. So at the end 0:08:52.679 --> 0:08:55.000 of the day, as much as that moment means to us, 0:08:55.320 --> 0:08:58.480 we always have the giant, most biggest pillow to fall 0:08:58.480 --> 0:09:00.600 back on. Yeah, I remember I was planning this match 0:09:00.679 --> 0:09:03.520 is infamous match in Indian Wells. In the final, A 0:09:03.600 --> 0:09:06.280 twenty year old Venus in a nineteen year old Serena 0:09:06.360 --> 0:09:08.600 were set to face off in the semifinal of the 0:09:08.600 --> 0:09:12.480 Indian Wales Master's Tournament. Just four minutes before this highly 0:09:12.520 --> 0:09:16.720 anticipated match, Venus shocked tennis fans when she suddenly withdrew 0:09:16.720 --> 0:09:20.120 from the tournament, citing tendonitis in her knee. Rumor spread 0:09:20.280 --> 0:09:23.920 that Venus's last minute cancelation was pre planned by their father, 0:09:24.080 --> 0:09:27.880 Richard and intended to give Serena a lega. Two days later, 0:09:28.080 --> 0:09:31.360 events took an ugly turn when Richard, Venus, and Serena 0:09:31.640 --> 0:09:36.440 were met with angry fans and relentless booze. Wow. I 0:09:36.480 --> 0:09:38.800 mean it was hard and I just remember I was 0:09:38.880 --> 0:09:41.079 losing and I didn't even care. I was like, I 0:09:41.080 --> 0:09:42.880 don't want to win. I just want to get out 0:09:42.880 --> 0:09:45.640 of this with dignity and not just walk off the 0:09:45.679 --> 0:09:48.280 court and not just start bawling. Right there at that moment, 0:09:48.320 --> 0:09:50.880 and literally every change over, I sat down and I prayed. 0:09:50.920 --> 0:09:53.320 I was like, just help me get through this. Just 0:09:53.320 --> 0:09:55.240 just help me step on that court and just help me. 0:09:55.280 --> 0:09:56.679 I'm not even trying to win. I just want to 0:09:56.679 --> 0:09:58.960 go on that court and I just want to just 0:09:59.040 --> 0:10:02.400 finish the match. I know that I got strength, and 0:10:02.880 --> 0:10:05.120 not only did I, I somehow came back and won 0:10:05.160 --> 0:10:07.439 that match and I was able to just to get 0:10:07.480 --> 0:10:10.320 through that moment and it really has helped us in 0:10:10.400 --> 0:10:12.920 so many different ways in our career. Indian Wells, that 0:10:13.000 --> 0:10:15.320 was that was a rough That was a rough one 0:10:15.360 --> 0:10:18.000 for me, and it was it was so hard because 0:10:18.000 --> 0:10:20.720 I'll never forget driving back and Tundy was there and 0:10:20.840 --> 0:10:22.840 I just remember getting in the car and I was 0:10:22.920 --> 0:10:25.480 just bawling and was at the gas station. There was 0:10:25.520 --> 0:10:28.240 no celebration and I was just like crying and crying 0:10:28.280 --> 0:10:31.160 and crying. And even when I went back fourteen years later, 0:10:31.160 --> 0:10:34.199 it was very traumatized. It was like really post talk 0:10:34.280 --> 0:10:38.760 about post traumatic stress and mental anxiety. I remember sitting 0:10:38.760 --> 0:10:40.800 in the bathroom thinking, okay, wait, I'm not gonna go back. 0:10:40.840 --> 0:10:42.480 I I just don't think I should do this, Like 0:10:42.480 --> 0:10:44.240 what if they started booing me again? Because it was 0:10:44.480 --> 0:10:46.679 it was really hard for me. We've had to face 0:10:46.760 --> 0:10:49.680 different things that quite frankly, no one has been able 0:10:49.679 --> 0:10:52.199 to face in tennis, you know, and it's been very, 0:10:52.320 --> 0:10:55.600 very difficult. That's why we relate so much to each other. 0:10:56.040 --> 0:10:58.559 Actually was more upset that they were booing my sister 0:10:58.640 --> 0:11:00.560 when she came down the wall, like why are you 0:11:00.600 --> 0:11:02.560 blowing her? Like that makes no sense? You know? And 0:11:02.600 --> 0:11:05.480 my dad too as well. I got like one thing 0:11:05.520 --> 0:11:10.400 about me, I'm fiercely like, I'm the kind of person 0:11:10.440 --> 0:11:12.720 that I'm with you make a mistake, I'm with you, 0:11:12.800 --> 0:11:15.520 I'm with you. But then when I'm done, I'm done. 0:11:15.040 --> 0:11:19.320 Ye know. How do you handle losses? Like whether do 0:11:19.400 --> 0:11:23.840 you not? Well? Really, you're so good at it, and 0:11:23.840 --> 0:11:26.640 you're like, oh my god, worse worst, I'm already planning, 0:11:26.720 --> 0:11:29.559 like that moment, what I'm gonna do. I dream about 0:11:29.559 --> 0:11:31.800 it that night, and no one likes to lose. But 0:11:31.840 --> 0:11:35.080 I can't stand it. Especially in tennis, it's just you. You 0:11:34.720 --> 0:11:36.480 You feel like, gosh, I have to look at even 0:11:36.480 --> 0:11:38.560 deeper inside. I thought I had it right. I thought 0:11:38.640 --> 0:11:40.439 I was doing the right thing. But I gotta go 0:11:40.720 --> 0:11:43.400 even deeper, work even harder to figure out how to 0:11:43.679 --> 0:11:46.920 win this match. So not well, of course, it's as 0:11:46.920 --> 0:11:48.960 always you give your best, and I think that's what 0:11:49.080 --> 0:11:52.920 three and I can always, and probably most players not all, 0:11:53.520 --> 0:11:56.680 but can feel like, even though I lost, I did 0:11:56.679 --> 0:11:58.720 give my best. I prepared the best that I could. 0:11:59.000 --> 0:12:00.640 Maybe I didn't do it right, but you can sleep 0:12:00.679 --> 0:12:02.600 at night with that thought. Of course you would want 0:12:02.640 --> 0:12:04.640 to be better, but you can sleep at night. What 0:12:04.800 --> 0:12:08.720 was the one that hurt the most all of them? Yeah, 0:12:11.280 --> 0:12:13.680 we always have amazing moments in the locker room after 0:12:13.760 --> 0:12:18.720 where it's mostly especially after losses, because it's like you 0:12:18.800 --> 0:12:21.520 just really are angry, and then the only person that 0:12:21.559 --> 0:12:25.560 can understand is minus What are the lessons that you've 0:12:25.600 --> 0:12:29.679 gotten from each other everything. I think my most powerful 0:12:29.760 --> 0:12:32.319 lesson from Serena was I was like this person with 0:12:32.360 --> 0:12:34.240 a lot of talent, but I didn't have like an 0:12:34.320 --> 0:12:36.280 extra heart to kind of go past the line. I 0:12:36.360 --> 0:12:39.800 recognize that in myself and by watching Serena was able 0:12:39.840 --> 0:12:42.559 to learn how to get that because she just was fearless, 0:12:43.080 --> 0:12:45.120 and so I watched and I said, okay, I need 0:12:45.200 --> 0:12:48.120 that part and I learned it. But it's so cool 0:12:48.160 --> 0:12:50.960 that you recognize that in yourself. Yeah, I recognize that, 0:12:51.040 --> 0:12:54.600 and I learned it quickly, and I was just watching 0:12:54.640 --> 0:12:56.760 her do it because I saw, Wow, she's got it. 0:12:56.800 --> 0:12:59.040 That's what I want. I always liked it to the 0:12:59.080 --> 0:13:03.200 grine member at the in you got this little heart 0:13:03.240 --> 0:13:09.080 like a blo gross. I swear that was me. So 0:13:09.160 --> 0:13:15.880 I don't like Christmas My go where do you feel? 0:13:15.960 --> 0:13:20.240 Is one of the lessons you got from Venus? Um, well, 0:13:21.640 --> 0:13:26.160 I don't. Usually I don't apply the lessons that a 0:13:26.240 --> 0:13:28.840 lesson if you don't learn her. She's so classy and 0:13:28.880 --> 0:13:36.600 I'm so like crazy, you know. Laying her is so 0:13:36.679 --> 0:13:40.240 annoying because it's like here, I am like screaming my 0:13:40.520 --> 0:13:46.160 eyes out, and she's like, you hit a shot, and 0:13:46.200 --> 0:13:48.000 you know, even if it's a winner, she'll just like 0:13:48.040 --> 0:13:49.600 go to the next shot, and I'm just like, aren't 0:13:49.600 --> 0:13:57.080 you that And it's just the most frustrating thing in 0:13:57.120 --> 0:14:00.360 the world because she just keeps his face. And I 0:14:00.360 --> 0:14:04.240 didn't apply any of those. None of those lessons applied, 0:14:04.360 --> 0:14:09.000 so I'm still learning. For me the experience as an actor. 0:14:09.679 --> 0:14:15.640 You it's almost like you put on a person, so like, 0:14:15.720 --> 0:14:18.840 what is that for you? Because you really enveloped and 0:14:18.920 --> 0:14:23.040 became Richard Williams. It was that is such a compliment 0:14:23.080 --> 0:14:26.440 from your brother way than I like for for the 0:14:26.560 --> 0:14:30.640 daughter of the person you're playing. That is the ultimate 0:14:30.960 --> 0:14:36.760 compliment as an actor, So thank you. Um, I understand him. 0:14:36.760 --> 0:14:40.320 My father was from that same generation. Your father was 0:14:40.520 --> 0:14:43.160 a hustler the way that my father was, and always 0:14:43.160 --> 0:14:46.800 a new business and always a new idea and slamming 0:14:46.800 --> 0:14:50.200 into wall after wall. Reading your father's book and looking 0:14:50.240 --> 0:14:53.920 at all of the tape and really diving into his mind. 0:14:54.360 --> 0:14:56.800 One of the lines was this world and never had 0:14:56.840 --> 0:15:00.960 no respect for Richard Williams. But they're gonna respect all. Yeah. 0:15:01.280 --> 0:15:05.960 You know, as you're you know, growing, and the years 0:15:06.080 --> 0:15:08.200 move on in this business and you see more and 0:15:08.200 --> 0:15:10.720 more and you learn more and more. What are the 0:15:10.760 --> 0:15:19.960 things that you will not tolerate? Zero? Literally nothing come 0:15:20.040 --> 0:15:23.920 for me if you want to. I always say, I 0:15:23.920 --> 0:15:26.440 don't start anything, but please don't start anything with me, 0:15:27.480 --> 0:15:31.240 And I won't yell and scream, but it'll end. Yeah. No, 0:15:34.200 --> 0:15:36.240 I'm the nicest person in the world, but I just 0:15:36.320 --> 0:15:39.080 don't like to be disrespected. So and I think when 0:15:39.120 --> 0:15:41.200 you're younger you don't realize that you have those options 0:15:41.200 --> 0:15:44.800 to say no, and as you grow up and understand why, 0:15:44.840 --> 0:15:46.720 you're like, I can't say no. I actually don't have 0:15:46.800 --> 0:15:50.200 to take this. It's a wonderful feeling, you know, that 0:15:50.320 --> 0:15:54.760 concept of of mental health and what actually is the 0:15:54.840 --> 0:15:59.520 responsibility of athletes in terms of the press. Your father 0:15:59.720 --> 0:16:04.520 was really ahead of his time. He was. There was 0:16:04.800 --> 0:16:07.560 a video that even before I was going to do 0:16:08.160 --> 0:16:11.520 the movie, the one not the famous one with the 0:16:11.520 --> 0:16:13.880 the uh no, I'm not gonna spring that on you. 0:16:14.240 --> 0:16:21.320 He's like, oh, don't you red table me with no, 0:16:21.560 --> 0:16:27.200 the one with your father and the reporter when yeah, 0:16:27.320 --> 0:16:30.600 we have that video. I actually have never watched it. 0:16:30.880 --> 0:16:37.200 I know I compete here. You know, you can very confident. 0:16:38.320 --> 0:16:46.320 I'm very count You see it so easily? Why because 0:16:46.360 --> 0:16:51.000 I believe? Yeah, I'm looking tell you why. But she 0:16:51.040 --> 0:16:53.720 has said she said it was so much confidence the 0:16:53.800 --> 0:16:57.720 first half. But people want but we can't keep it 0:16:57.760 --> 0:17:00.080 interrupting me. If you want, you got to understand, do 0:17:00.080 --> 0:17:03.000 you dealing with the amateur in your child and this 0:17:03.120 --> 0:17:05.200 child gonna be out the black when your old ass 0:17:05.200 --> 0:17:07.760 and ego being the brand. But she said something, we 0:17:07.840 --> 0:17:10.280 don't told you what's happening. You don't with a little 0:17:10.320 --> 0:17:13.240 black head, and let help being kid, you're answered with 0:17:13.280 --> 0:17:17.040 a lot of propert and live that alone. So I've 0:17:17.040 --> 0:17:20.480 actually never watched that since that day. Really, yeah, it 0:17:20.600 --> 0:17:24.880 was intense, but I'm thinking you feel like thinking, well, 0:17:25.160 --> 0:17:28.800 I'm gonna just sit here. Really yeah, And he was 0:17:28.880 --> 0:17:32.639 badgering me, and he looked like maybe it was enjoying it, 0:17:32.880 --> 0:17:39.280 but he's like, what are you confident? What's going on? Dude? 0:17:39.720 --> 0:17:41.520 Now at this age, I would understand like I don't 0:17:41.520 --> 0:17:43.000 have to ask some like dude, move on or not 0:17:43.920 --> 0:17:45.840 or I will. Yeah, that's what I would say. Now 0:17:46.119 --> 0:17:49.800 I'm just thinking, yeah, they don't know my dad. That video. 0:17:50.280 --> 0:17:56.320 I saw that at a critical parenting point in my life. Really, 0:17:57.000 --> 0:18:00.600 if you notice your face, you out a little bit 0:18:00.640 --> 0:18:07.560 of a smirk, right, but you have no fear. But 0:18:07.800 --> 0:18:11.359 that showed me it was like you were a little 0:18:11.480 --> 0:18:17.080 girl who had a lion, and you don't want to 0:18:17.119 --> 0:18:19.440 sick your lion on nobody. You know, you want to. 0:18:20.040 --> 0:18:24.840 I wish we could talk, but if you go too far, 0:18:25.440 --> 0:18:29.960 my lion will destroy you. Well, I knew what was 0:18:30.000 --> 0:18:32.280 going to happen, like I knew what was coming, like 0:18:32.440 --> 0:18:35.760 they didn't know. They found out. But the best part, 0:18:35.800 --> 0:18:38.320 I think, you know I kept answering the question is 0:18:38.320 --> 0:18:40.240 because we had been under pressure before. We had been 0:18:40.320 --> 0:18:42.320 under pressure in the court, We have been under pressure. 0:18:42.640 --> 0:18:44.800 My dad made us answer questions like why does the 0:18:44.920 --> 0:18:47.199 rich man get richer and the poor man gets poor? Meanwhile, 0:18:47.240 --> 0:18:49.600 you're like five years old and you have to answer. 0:18:49.680 --> 0:18:52.640 You can't say I don't know. So we were long 0:18:52.760 --> 0:18:54.760 prepared for the pressures that we would deal with in 0:18:54.920 --> 0:18:58.040 life before we like stepped into these interviews or stepped 0:18:58.040 --> 0:19:00.920 into a classroom or wherever you find sure everywhere in life. 0:19:01.440 --> 0:19:03.200 That was kind of a good example not only of 0:19:03.480 --> 0:19:05.760 having the protection but also being ready for the world. 0:19:05.920 --> 0:19:11.080 It was such a beautiful thing, and it changed how 0:19:11.720 --> 0:19:16.879 I related with my children. My father was a lion also, right, 0:19:17.359 --> 0:19:20.680 but he would bite me every once in a while. 0:19:21.040 --> 0:19:23.480 And what I saw in your eyes was that you 0:19:23.600 --> 0:19:26.760 had a lion, but he would never bite you. You 0:19:26.840 --> 0:19:29.560 were you had no fear of the lion. Biting you, right, 0:19:29.720 --> 0:19:34.159 and and I was like, I wanted to be a 0:19:34.320 --> 0:19:37.359 lion for my children, but I didn't want them to 0:19:37.520 --> 0:19:42.080 feel that they'd accidentally get swiped sometimes in my rage, right, 0:19:42.280 --> 0:19:45.760 And that's where you learn from. There's a line between 0:19:45.920 --> 0:19:49.120 like getting swiped and also pressure and pushing. You gotta 0:19:49.160 --> 0:19:51.119 read the kid. You gotta know if this kid can 0:19:51.160 --> 0:19:52.879 take it or not, and how you approach it. It 0:19:52.960 --> 0:19:55.560 wasn't necessarily that liberal in my home, Like you kind 0:19:55.600 --> 0:19:58.119 of just had to get with the program, which is 0:19:58.200 --> 0:20:02.119 good too. Some of your biggest fans heard you were 0:20:02.160 --> 0:20:04.200 coming here to the Red Table, so they had some 0:20:04.359 --> 0:20:08.399 questions of their own. This one comes from a trailblazing 0:20:08.520 --> 0:20:14.159 champion sister, so let's hear it. Okay. Look, the impact 0:20:14.200 --> 0:20:17.280 that Venus and Serena have made, not only in sports 0:20:17.400 --> 0:20:20.399 but in life have made a huge impact on my 0:20:20.680 --> 0:20:24.280 entire career. They've paved the way for black athletes as 0:20:24.320 --> 0:20:27.879 well as black women. I can't thank them enough, and 0:20:28.280 --> 0:20:31.399 I'm really grateful that I have them to look up to. 0:20:31.760 --> 0:20:34.120 I wish we were friends, but I am pretty much 0:20:34.480 --> 0:20:36.959 just a big fan of them. But I do remember 0:20:37.320 --> 0:20:41.560 meeting both Venus and Serena at separate times, and I 0:20:41.720 --> 0:20:47.440 was just amazed at how tall they were. If I 0:20:47.520 --> 0:20:50.800 could have any life advice from Venus and Serena, it 0:20:50.840 --> 0:20:53.480 would be how do you keep going, especially when you 0:20:53.560 --> 0:20:57.680 need a mental health break? I was so amazing. I 0:20:57.720 --> 0:21:02.080 want to be friends with her. Sees, We're definitely gonna 0:21:02.080 --> 0:21:05.119 be friends. Yeah, that's a good question. Sman being and 0:21:05.359 --> 0:21:09.760 um gymnastics, that huge moment is once every four years. 0:21:10.240 --> 0:21:14.959 Our huge moment is four times every year. So for us, 0:21:15.040 --> 0:21:17.840 if we needed a break, I remember one time in 0:21:17.960 --> 0:21:20.440 two six I've just took the whole year off. For me, 0:21:20.560 --> 0:21:25.639 when it comes to like Grand slams Um, sometimes I 0:21:25.880 --> 0:21:29.520 push maybe too far, you know, I just always keep going. 0:21:29.720 --> 0:21:32.480 Athletes live very unbalanced lies, and for me, that having 0:21:32.520 --> 0:21:35.440 a moment alone and be watching like I don't know, 0:21:35.560 --> 0:21:38.320 something silly just for like an hour, half an hour, 0:21:38.440 --> 0:21:40.399 and that kind of balances me out. It's a silly, 0:21:40.560 --> 0:21:42.639 simple thing, but then it helps me get ready for 0:21:42.680 --> 0:21:44.520 the next day. That's my prep for the next day. 0:21:45.160 --> 0:21:48.159 I think just asking yourself a question like how how 0:21:48.200 --> 0:21:49.720 do I want to remember this moment? How do I 0:21:49.800 --> 0:21:51.399 want to handle this moment? If I look back in 0:21:51.440 --> 0:21:53.520 ten years how will I feel about this? I didn't 0:21:53.520 --> 0:21:56.280 know you asked yourself that question. I asked myself the 0:21:56.320 --> 0:21:58.000 exact same question. How am I going to fail in 0:21:58.080 --> 0:22:01.040 ten years? Um looking back on this moment? Is it 0:22:01.119 --> 0:22:03.480 gonna be worth it? Or is it not going to 0:22:03.560 --> 0:22:07.320 be worth it? I think also like life is about failures, right, 0:22:08.200 --> 0:22:11.800 you just fail and it's okay. I think just that 0:22:11.960 --> 0:22:14.720 acceptance and failure is fine because even when you look 0:22:14.760 --> 0:22:17.760 back in those ten years, even if you fail, if 0:22:17.800 --> 0:22:19.439 you just gave it your all with what you had 0:22:19.520 --> 0:22:22.920 that day, that's still perfect. Also what you learn from that, 0:22:23.680 --> 0:22:26.920 I become my best player. Every time I lose. I 0:22:27.040 --> 0:22:30.080 learned from what happened in that loss, and I generally 0:22:30.160 --> 0:22:33.320 try to really make leaps and bounds from that loss. 0:22:33.920 --> 0:22:37.879 And I think sometimes people are afraid to lose if 0:22:37.960 --> 0:22:40.200 they start winning, or they're afraid to fail, Like I 0:22:40.320 --> 0:22:43.760 know I was in that position, but that doesn't I 0:22:43.800 --> 0:22:46.080 don't even like the word like, it's not a failure. 0:22:46.240 --> 0:22:49.000 It's just like you slipped and then you'll get back up. 0:22:49.359 --> 0:22:50.920 And I think a lot of it too, is just 0:22:51.119 --> 0:22:54.320 taken out whatever the hell other people think. When you 0:22:54.480 --> 0:22:56.960 let go of that, you are free you are so 0:22:57.240 --> 0:22:59.280 free to just do you. I think you always have 0:22:59.359 --> 0:23:01.639 to check yourself and ask that question, am I getting 0:23:01.680 --> 0:23:03.840 too caught up and what Sally and Bobby and Billy think, 0:23:04.800 --> 0:23:07.119 and like what matters to me? And like, let's pursue 0:23:07.160 --> 0:23:09.080 that path. Do you ever get caught up in what 0:23:09.200 --> 0:23:12.040 people say and think? This is a new place in 0:23:12.160 --> 0:23:15.800 my life. But that was really a difficult thing for 0:23:16.000 --> 0:23:20.520 me and my heyday being an actor. It's like, yeah, 0:23:22.480 --> 0:23:27.560 but getting stuck on the movie, having to be number 0:23:27.640 --> 0:23:32.800 one and having to break box office records is It's 0:23:32.920 --> 0:23:36.600 it's crazy making right because I had to learn to 0:23:36.880 --> 0:23:40.200 to I had to learn to transition from other people's 0:23:40.280 --> 0:23:43.800 opinion of the movie and whether it's successful and all 0:23:43.840 --> 0:23:47.800 of that too. Well, did I like it? Did I 0:23:48.080 --> 0:23:52.720 have a great time making it? And did I put 0:23:52.840 --> 0:23:56.480 something in the world that I'm proud of no matter 0:23:56.600 --> 0:23:59.480 how people react to it. But that's got to be tough, though, 0:23:59.560 --> 0:24:01.560 because there have to be times where you want to 0:24:01.600 --> 0:24:04.159 take a role because it has significance to you, or 0:24:04.920 --> 0:24:07.399 because of the quality of the script or whatever. It 0:24:07.520 --> 0:24:09.879 may not necessarily be a movie that everyone wants to 0:24:09.920 --> 0:24:12.640 see or whatever it is. That's got to be hard 0:24:12.720 --> 0:24:15.840 for your like creatives. Yeah, no, Now. Sam Jackson said 0:24:15.880 --> 0:24:18.280 it best. He said, I do one for them, one 0:24:18.320 --> 0:24:28.920 for me. There's a lot of love out there for you. 0:24:29.359 --> 0:24:33.440