1 00:00:20,920 --> 00:00:23,640 Speaker 1: Hey there, fan Rito's welcome back to a brand new 2 00:00:23,640 --> 00:00:24,200 Speaker 1: episode of. 3 00:00:24,200 --> 00:00:28,680 Speaker 2: How Rude Tanitos, Brand new episode, same old boy. 4 00:00:31,320 --> 00:00:35,640 Speaker 1: So today we're back with another t GIF recap, and 5 00:00:35,720 --> 00:00:39,239 Speaker 1: this time we're watching the Family Matters pilot. 6 00:00:40,120 --> 00:00:43,040 Speaker 2: I love watching these pilots. I'm loving this series. You 7 00:00:43,080 --> 00:00:44,840 Speaker 2: know that we're like, this is great. 8 00:00:44,880 --> 00:00:47,559 Speaker 3: We've made shows. 9 00:00:46,600 --> 00:00:49,160 Speaker 1: Before, so it's just so cool to see other shows 10 00:00:49,200 --> 00:00:51,800 Speaker 1: that we're on the same time or similar time to 11 00:00:51,800 --> 00:00:52,320 Speaker 1: Full House. 12 00:00:52,440 --> 00:00:53,519 Speaker 3: Yeah, I dig it. 13 00:00:54,200 --> 00:00:56,720 Speaker 2: So neither Jody and I have seen this pilot. 14 00:00:56,720 --> 00:00:59,240 Speaker 3: I've never never watched an episode of Family. 15 00:00:58,920 --> 00:01:03,560 Speaker 1: Matter same same this time. This show is a little 16 00:01:03,600 --> 00:01:07,400 Speaker 1: reminiscent of a certain sitcom that we are very familiar with. 17 00:01:08,240 --> 00:01:12,080 Speaker 1: So let's get into it. We did this with Boy 18 00:01:12,080 --> 00:01:14,759 Speaker 1: Meets World a few weeks ago. We watched the pilot 19 00:01:15,360 --> 00:01:18,560 Speaker 1: and had a lot of feelings. Very cute, very cute, 20 00:01:18,560 --> 00:01:20,440 Speaker 1: But yeah, boy was a great I had some mixed 21 00:01:20,440 --> 00:01:24,119 Speaker 1: feelings about that, but I liked it. So did you 22 00:01:24,160 --> 00:01:28,800 Speaker 1: come into this having high expectations for Family Matters? I 23 00:01:28,840 --> 00:01:29,200 Speaker 1: don't know. 24 00:01:29,319 --> 00:01:29,760 Speaker 3: I think you know. 25 00:01:29,840 --> 00:01:32,360 Speaker 2: I always try to kind of temper my expectations for 26 00:01:32,400 --> 00:01:36,000 Speaker 2: a pilot because you know, you're like I'm not. I'm 27 00:01:36,000 --> 00:01:38,319 Speaker 2: not going to judge it based on what I know 28 00:01:38,440 --> 00:01:41,120 Speaker 2: the show to become, you know what I mean, You're 29 00:01:41,160 --> 00:01:44,960 Speaker 2: like you kind of got to give pilots like the 30 00:01:44,959 --> 00:01:47,200 Speaker 2: the benefit of the doubt because you're like work, everybody's 31 00:01:47,240 --> 00:01:50,960 Speaker 2: trying to find the find your way took. 32 00:01:51,000 --> 00:01:54,080 Speaker 1: I mean, how's a while to find its way, you know. 33 00:01:54,280 --> 00:01:56,760 Speaker 2: I will say I think our pilot was one of 34 00:01:56,800 --> 00:01:59,520 Speaker 2: the best pilots that I've seen, hands down, ten out 35 00:01:59,520 --> 00:02:00,840 Speaker 2: of ten, ten out of ten. 36 00:02:01,000 --> 00:02:02,000 Speaker 3: Especially for a sitcom. 37 00:02:02,120 --> 00:02:03,800 Speaker 1: I know, I and I agree with you. I mean, 38 00:02:03,800 --> 00:02:05,200 Speaker 1: I don't know, I fair I would agree with us, 39 00:02:05,200 --> 00:02:06,000 Speaker 1: but I agree with you. 40 00:02:06,080 --> 00:02:08,680 Speaker 2: And I'm not saying that just because I like, you know, 41 00:02:08,720 --> 00:02:10,800 Speaker 2: because it's Full House, But I really do think like 42 00:02:10,840 --> 00:02:11,920 Speaker 2: it was just it was a great It was a 43 00:02:11,919 --> 00:02:12,480 Speaker 2: great pilot. 44 00:02:13,080 --> 00:02:14,600 Speaker 3: This one felt a little more. 45 00:02:17,160 --> 00:02:23,799 Speaker 2: Not exponential, but uh explanatory exposition word, yes, exposition y expositioning. 46 00:02:23,919 --> 00:02:26,440 Speaker 2: It was just an official which is an official word 47 00:02:26,600 --> 00:02:29,280 Speaker 2: in the Merriam Webster Dictionary, right next to six seven. 48 00:02:30,480 --> 00:02:30,760 Speaker 3: Yeah. 49 00:02:30,800 --> 00:02:34,200 Speaker 1: Well, I went into this with high expectations because this 50 00:02:34,320 --> 00:02:39,079 Speaker 1: show premiered exactly a year after Full House premiered, right, was. 51 00:02:39,200 --> 00:02:42,280 Speaker 2: A year or two years later. It was two years. Okay, 52 00:02:42,360 --> 00:02:43,040 Speaker 2: this start. 53 00:02:43,040 --> 00:02:45,400 Speaker 3: Came about in eighty nine and we were. 54 00:02:45,480 --> 00:02:46,760 Speaker 1: We were eighty seven. That's right. 55 00:02:46,760 --> 00:02:48,240 Speaker 2: Okay, so it's two years. 56 00:02:48,680 --> 00:02:50,120 Speaker 1: But I think I am looking at it through the 57 00:02:50,200 --> 00:02:53,560 Speaker 1: lens of oh, this is family matters, the massive hit 58 00:02:53,840 --> 00:02:57,880 Speaker 1: that went on for nine seasons. So I had high expectations, 59 00:02:57,960 --> 00:02:59,720 Speaker 1: but maybe I should have tempered them a little bit, 60 00:02:59,720 --> 00:03:02,559 Speaker 1: because as like you said, you know, gives gifts pilots 61 00:03:02,560 --> 00:03:05,519 Speaker 1: some grace to kind of find their footing and introduce 62 00:03:05,600 --> 00:03:06,320 Speaker 1: the characters. 63 00:03:06,919 --> 00:03:07,040 Speaker 2: Right. 64 00:03:08,520 --> 00:03:10,360 Speaker 1: So yeah, I thought it was a solid pilot, but 65 00:03:10,400 --> 00:03:13,600 Speaker 1: it did feel like it felt very much like a sitcom. 66 00:03:13,600 --> 00:03:15,320 Speaker 1: And I understand that I. 67 00:03:15,280 --> 00:03:16,320 Speaker 3: Know exactly what you mean. 68 00:03:16,639 --> 00:03:19,440 Speaker 1: It's yes, yes, when I watched The House, it doesn't 69 00:03:19,440 --> 00:03:21,200 Speaker 1: feel like a sitcom to me, and maybe it's because 70 00:03:21,200 --> 00:03:22,600 Speaker 1: we're watching like home movies. 71 00:03:22,639 --> 00:03:25,200 Speaker 2: But when I watch sometimes it does. But I think 72 00:03:25,360 --> 00:03:27,360 Speaker 2: there was well, we'll get into it, but there was 73 00:03:27,400 --> 00:03:30,400 Speaker 2: definitely moments where I was like, you're at a twelve, 74 00:03:30,560 --> 00:03:34,920 Speaker 2: just turn it. It felt very it felt very cheesy sitcoming. 75 00:03:35,000 --> 00:03:38,720 Speaker 1: I very much noticed, like the last laughter. 76 00:03:38,720 --> 00:03:42,280 Speaker 2: I will say that I think as ridiculous as our 77 00:03:42,320 --> 00:03:48,360 Speaker 2: show is, the we played the characters as grounded as 78 00:03:48,400 --> 00:03:49,279 Speaker 2: they could. 79 00:03:49,240 --> 00:03:50,560 Speaker 3: Be, you know what I mean. 80 00:03:50,560 --> 00:03:54,640 Speaker 2: That didn't feel like. 81 00:03:53,040 --> 00:03:54,000 Speaker 3: Like a caricature. 82 00:03:54,120 --> 00:03:56,360 Speaker 2: It was like, this was just Danny Tanner who likes 83 00:03:56,360 --> 00:03:58,880 Speaker 2: everything clean and you know, is actually cleaning the leaves 84 00:03:58,880 --> 00:04:02,240 Speaker 2: in the backyard. Didn't feel like I don't know, maybe 85 00:04:02,240 --> 00:04:04,240 Speaker 2: that's maybe it's just us, but it did feel I 86 00:04:04,240 --> 00:04:06,920 Speaker 2: get what you're saying. Let's let's let's get we'll get 87 00:04:06,960 --> 00:04:08,520 Speaker 2: into it before we get into it. 88 00:04:08,560 --> 00:04:12,800 Speaker 1: Well, we'll get into it. Yeah, okay. So in many ways, 89 00:04:12,960 --> 00:04:18,039 Speaker 1: full house and family matters are the same. Uh, And 90 00:04:18,080 --> 00:04:21,839 Speaker 1: so what are some more obvious similarities that you noticed 91 00:04:21,839 --> 00:04:23,240 Speaker 1: as you were watching the pilot. 92 00:04:24,560 --> 00:04:28,280 Speaker 2: Well, you've got a disruption in the family. 93 00:04:28,760 --> 00:04:31,440 Speaker 1: Yes, yes, someone's moving in. 94 00:04:31,640 --> 00:04:35,560 Speaker 2: Someone's moving in, and right too that that upsets the balance. 95 00:04:35,560 --> 00:04:37,880 Speaker 3: And also you have the. 96 00:04:38,000 --> 00:04:43,000 Speaker 2: Sister there with the baby because her husband died. Yeah, 97 00:04:44,600 --> 00:04:46,680 Speaker 2: got a dead spouse. 98 00:04:47,920 --> 00:04:48,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, that's right. 99 00:04:48,960 --> 00:04:50,440 Speaker 2: Well, because you got to kill them off, I guess 100 00:04:50,440 --> 00:04:52,000 Speaker 2: in the eighties you can't just have them be like, oh, 101 00:04:52,040 --> 00:04:53,480 Speaker 2: they left me like it doesn't you know, I mean 102 00:04:53,520 --> 00:04:54,440 Speaker 2: you're like, no, that's just what. 103 00:04:54,440 --> 00:04:56,840 Speaker 3: We do, right, right, So they're either dead. 104 00:04:56,680 --> 00:05:00,159 Speaker 2: Or don't speak of divorce and then no, no, no, no, no, 105 00:05:00,080 --> 00:05:00,800 Speaker 2: we're killing them off. 106 00:05:01,360 --> 00:05:03,040 Speaker 3: But that sort of felt similar. 107 00:05:03,120 --> 00:05:05,240 Speaker 2: And the music, the music, you know, they had the 108 00:05:05,520 --> 00:05:07,240 Speaker 2: episode with a show or with a song, and I 109 00:05:07,279 --> 00:05:08,480 Speaker 2: was like, wait, we did that well. 110 00:05:08,520 --> 00:05:11,159 Speaker 1: And it's it's a multi generational family all living under 111 00:05:11,200 --> 00:05:14,040 Speaker 1: one roof. It's a lot of people, and they don't 112 00:05:14,480 --> 00:05:16,480 Speaker 1: the whole thing takes place in the house, right, there's 113 00:05:16,520 --> 00:05:19,720 Speaker 1: no other scenes and other sets. It's all. I mean, 114 00:05:19,800 --> 00:05:22,279 Speaker 1: there's different sets, but it's all in the Winslow house. 115 00:05:22,360 --> 00:05:25,920 Speaker 2: I believe it's Yeah, living room, kitchen, and bedroom, so 116 00:05:26,080 --> 00:05:26,679 Speaker 2: was full house? 117 00:05:27,480 --> 00:05:28,120 Speaker 3: Have any other sets? 118 00:05:28,120 --> 00:05:29,919 Speaker 1: We have some swing sets, I mean, I guess in 119 00:05:29,960 --> 00:05:31,640 Speaker 1: the pilot. We did it not in the pilot and 120 00:05:31,680 --> 00:05:33,240 Speaker 1: the pilot, yeah, it's a pilot. They won't give you 121 00:05:33,320 --> 00:05:33,800 Speaker 1: swing sets. 122 00:05:33,800 --> 00:05:36,240 Speaker 2: They're like, you're getting the bare minimum for what you 123 00:05:36,320 --> 00:05:38,080 Speaker 2: can do and we'll see how it goes. 124 00:05:38,320 --> 00:05:43,880 Speaker 1: Right, It's true, very true. So did you enjoy watching 125 00:05:43,920 --> 00:05:48,560 Speaker 1: a show that was reminiscent of our own show? Did 126 00:05:48,560 --> 00:05:51,200 Speaker 1: it feel comforting? Did it feel like a copycat? 127 00:05:52,800 --> 00:05:56,320 Speaker 2: No? But I it was like I didn't I didn't 128 00:05:56,320 --> 00:06:01,000 Speaker 2: want to keep what's the word like comparing pairing it? Yeah, 129 00:06:01,080 --> 00:06:03,320 Speaker 2: I was trying to really not, even though I was like, 130 00:06:03,320 --> 00:06:06,000 Speaker 2: oh that feels like oh that, I was like, let 131 00:06:06,120 --> 00:06:09,039 Speaker 2: it stand on its own merits and let like these 132 00:06:10,240 --> 00:06:12,360 Speaker 2: relationships develop, you know, very true. 133 00:06:12,400 --> 00:06:14,480 Speaker 1: Yeah it's it's its own show and its own right, 134 00:06:14,560 --> 00:06:18,520 Speaker 1: and yeah it isn't. People can make unfair comparisons to 135 00:06:18,560 --> 00:06:20,679 Speaker 1: Full House, but I think it stands. It totally stands 136 00:06:20,680 --> 00:06:23,960 Speaker 1: on its own. I found myself fascinated by the mother 137 00:06:24,080 --> 00:06:27,559 Speaker 1: characters because there's no mother character at first in Full House. 138 00:06:28,120 --> 00:06:31,039 Speaker 1: So I'm very drawn to like Harriet in this or 139 00:06:31,080 --> 00:06:33,120 Speaker 1: like Amy in Boy Meets World. I'm like, oh, look 140 00:06:33,360 --> 00:06:34,680 Speaker 1: very wonderful. 141 00:06:35,279 --> 00:06:35,960 Speaker 3: Yea's great. 142 00:06:36,240 --> 00:06:39,200 Speaker 1: They're nurturing like Amy's so nurturing, and then Harriet is 143 00:06:39,240 --> 00:06:43,280 Speaker 1: like such a strong there's a very yeah, yeah I 144 00:06:43,320 --> 00:06:43,680 Speaker 1: love that. 145 00:06:43,960 --> 00:06:49,039 Speaker 2: It was. Yeah, it was like I liked to how like, yes, 146 00:06:49,120 --> 00:06:51,719 Speaker 2: the show's felt similar, but like to I think the 147 00:06:51,760 --> 00:06:55,520 Speaker 2: audiences and the perspectives of the families that they were representing, 148 00:06:55,640 --> 00:06:57,440 Speaker 2: like they felt authentic, you know what I mean? 149 00:06:57,520 --> 00:07:01,000 Speaker 1: Yeah they did. So he did love it. So on 150 00:07:01,040 --> 00:07:03,720 Speaker 1: a scale of one to ten, how would you rate 151 00:07:04,200 --> 00:07:06,680 Speaker 1: the pilot of Family Matters. 152 00:07:07,240 --> 00:07:10,440 Speaker 3: I'm going like a six, You're going six or seven. 153 00:07:10,600 --> 00:07:15,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, I kind of feel the same way, like I 154 00:07:15,800 --> 00:07:16,760 Speaker 2: feel like maybe I'll get it. 155 00:07:16,880 --> 00:07:18,239 Speaker 3: I don't want to be me. 156 00:07:17,560 --> 00:07:20,000 Speaker 2: I don't either, but I also am trying to just 157 00:07:20,080 --> 00:07:21,960 Speaker 2: be honest and I just don't. 158 00:07:22,080 --> 00:07:25,160 Speaker 3: It was. There was some things, but. 159 00:07:25,120 --> 00:07:26,760 Speaker 1: We'll get there were there were some things, but I 160 00:07:26,760 --> 00:07:29,280 Speaker 1: thought it was solid. It was a great It was 161 00:07:29,280 --> 00:07:32,280 Speaker 1: a great pilot, but I wouldn't rank it up with 162 00:07:32,320 --> 00:07:35,960 Speaker 1: like the top three the best pilots out there. 163 00:07:36,000 --> 00:07:36,960 Speaker 2: So that's okay. 164 00:07:38,880 --> 00:07:41,480 Speaker 1: So let's talk about some fun facts about this episode. 165 00:07:41,480 --> 00:07:43,800 Speaker 1: It was directed by joel's Wick, So in some of 166 00:07:43,840 --> 00:07:44,960 Speaker 1: these camera angles, I was. 167 00:07:44,920 --> 00:07:48,800 Speaker 2: Like, Jeel, Okay, camera angle, Joel. I watched this entire 168 00:07:48,840 --> 00:07:50,800 Speaker 2: episode and I was like, was Jewel drunk? 169 00:07:51,440 --> 00:07:52,280 Speaker 3: What is happening? 170 00:07:52,360 --> 00:07:54,360 Speaker 1: There's a very camera There was. 171 00:07:54,360 --> 00:07:57,680 Speaker 2: A weird there was a lot of weird angles, a 172 00:07:57,680 --> 00:08:01,400 Speaker 2: lot of people in each other's lights, yeah, a lot 173 00:08:01,440 --> 00:08:06,400 Speaker 2: of upstaging of themselves, just all kinds of things where 174 00:08:06,440 --> 00:08:10,080 Speaker 2: I was like it it felt like I was like 175 00:08:10,880 --> 00:08:13,720 Speaker 2: somebody needed to fix this. Well thought, It's not like 176 00:08:13,760 --> 00:08:18,960 Speaker 2: this was Joel's first rodeo, like a gazillion directed gazillion things. 177 00:08:19,000 --> 00:08:20,600 Speaker 2: And also like was it all new. 178 00:08:20,480 --> 00:08:22,120 Speaker 3: Camera people like you know what I mean. 179 00:08:22,120 --> 00:08:24,160 Speaker 2: There was one where it was like you literally see 180 00:08:24,160 --> 00:08:27,280 Speaker 2: the camera like sort of shuttling left, you know, it's 181 00:08:27,280 --> 00:08:28,280 Speaker 2: like bumping over the floor. 182 00:08:28,320 --> 00:08:31,080 Speaker 3: And I'm like, who were not gotten? 183 00:08:31,080 --> 00:08:35,600 Speaker 2: Not in a pick up? Yeah? So true. 184 00:08:35,720 --> 00:08:37,319 Speaker 1: I was just like, I don't know, Joel, I don't 185 00:08:37,360 --> 00:08:38,920 Speaker 1: know what you were thinking when you were directing this. 186 00:08:39,040 --> 00:08:43,040 Speaker 1: But okay, Like we mentioned, the first episode of Family 187 00:08:43,040 --> 00:08:46,800 Speaker 1: Matters aired on September twenty second, nineteen eighty nine, which 188 00:08:46,800 --> 00:08:47,400 Speaker 1: is the same. 189 00:08:47,280 --> 00:08:50,120 Speaker 3: Date almost two years later, same date, two years later. 190 00:08:50,240 --> 00:08:54,000 Speaker 1: Amazing. And this show was actually a spin off of 191 00:08:54,200 --> 00:08:55,559 Speaker 1: Perfect Strangers. 192 00:08:56,160 --> 00:08:57,319 Speaker 3: Oh right. The character of. 193 00:08:57,280 --> 00:09:01,120 Speaker 1: Harriet was the elevator operator at the show Cogo newspaper 194 00:09:01,840 --> 00:09:04,800 Speaker 1: where Balky and Larry worked. 195 00:09:05,360 --> 00:09:06,840 Speaker 3: So that's when we got to watch too. 196 00:09:07,200 --> 00:09:10,960 Speaker 2: I know, oh yeah, maybe Mark Baker and some Bronson Pinchet. 197 00:09:11,480 --> 00:09:12,720 Speaker 2: Just brilliant comedy. 198 00:09:12,720 --> 00:09:17,880 Speaker 1: Brilliant comedy. But I yeah, I I I knew that 199 00:09:18,120 --> 00:09:20,319 Speaker 1: I had forgotten it, and then I remembered, and then 200 00:09:20,360 --> 00:09:22,920 Speaker 1: I wished there was a tie, like there should Larry 201 00:09:22,920 --> 00:09:24,600 Speaker 1: and Balky should have been in this pilot, Like there 202 00:09:24,600 --> 00:09:27,720 Speaker 1: should have been some sort of ushering of Harriet out 203 00:09:27,720 --> 00:09:29,760 Speaker 1: of Perfect Strangers and into family matters. 204 00:09:29,840 --> 00:09:33,280 Speaker 2: Right, they did, They did. They over explained everything everything 205 00:09:33,320 --> 00:09:35,240 Speaker 2: else right, they would have writ I would have at 206 00:09:35,320 --> 00:09:40,240 Speaker 2: least appreciated a mention of like, oh, at the at 207 00:09:40,920 --> 00:09:42,440 Speaker 2: my job or at the yeah something. 208 00:09:42,520 --> 00:09:44,880 Speaker 1: I don't know, what did you say? She was the 209 00:09:45,520 --> 00:09:50,240 Speaker 1: an elevator operator, like the person that puts the goes 210 00:09:50,440 --> 00:09:53,920 Speaker 1: goes up and down elevator operator? Is that the name? 211 00:09:54,080 --> 00:09:57,439 Speaker 3: Didn't I'm just confused because. 212 00:09:57,280 --> 00:10:00,360 Speaker 2: Did not end in like nineteen thirty eight, you know what I. 213 00:10:00,400 --> 00:10:04,920 Speaker 3: Mean, Like, how what its elevator operator? Don't we have buttons? 214 00:10:04,960 --> 00:10:08,000 Speaker 2: I know, I know, well back in the day. You know, 215 00:10:09,840 --> 00:10:12,200 Speaker 2: I don't know when Perfect Strangers takes place, but I 216 00:10:12,240 --> 00:10:14,600 Speaker 2: guess they head in Chicago, so I guess it's like you. 217 00:10:14,640 --> 00:10:16,920 Speaker 2: The assumption is it's an old building. 218 00:10:16,800 --> 00:10:19,200 Speaker 1: So you need, yeah, an operator to work. 219 00:10:19,240 --> 00:10:22,040 Speaker 2: It feels it feels it feels flimsy. 220 00:10:22,760 --> 00:10:24,679 Speaker 1: It's either that or it feels like a high end 221 00:10:24,720 --> 00:10:27,320 Speaker 1: hotel where it's like no, no, no, like they have 222 00:10:27,360 --> 00:10:29,360 Speaker 1: bathroom attendance too. It's like, we don't want you to 223 00:10:29,400 --> 00:10:31,079 Speaker 1: have to touch your own towel. We're going to hand 224 00:10:31,080 --> 00:10:32,960 Speaker 1: it to you. The same thing with the elevator. Oh no, 225 00:10:33,120 --> 00:10:35,400 Speaker 1: you're too important. I'm going to touch the buttons for you. 226 00:10:35,679 --> 00:10:38,240 Speaker 2: I don't know, perhaps strange. I don't know. 227 00:10:38,320 --> 00:10:40,400 Speaker 3: I don't know, uh, valcan Larry. 228 00:10:40,360 --> 00:10:44,320 Speaker 1: Rolling like that? Maybe I didn't know either. Yeah, no, 229 00:10:44,679 --> 00:10:49,200 Speaker 1: that's that's that's a thing that we learned. Okay, so 230 00:10:49,240 --> 00:10:52,120 Speaker 1: we've got main cast synopsis. I don't know if we 231 00:10:52,160 --> 00:10:55,240 Speaker 1: want to go through all of this. Okay, here's the synopsis. 232 00:10:55,280 --> 00:10:57,520 Speaker 1: The Winslow home is full of love and family, and 233 00:10:57,600 --> 00:10:58,920 Speaker 1: Carl's mom is moving. 234 00:10:58,720 --> 00:11:04,400 Speaker 2: In straight to the point, and then shenanigans in suit 235 00:11:04,800 --> 00:11:05,439 Speaker 2: in sue. 236 00:11:07,679 --> 00:11:10,080 Speaker 1: Okay, so let's talk about some of the best moments 237 00:11:10,360 --> 00:11:14,800 Speaker 1: of the series. The first one is that Carl is 238 00:11:14,840 --> 00:11:17,560 Speaker 1: doing everything in his power to prevent his mom from 239 00:11:17,600 --> 00:11:20,800 Speaker 1: moving in. He pitches all kinds of alternative ideas to 240 00:11:20,840 --> 00:11:24,600 Speaker 1: his wife, Harriet, but she knows it's pointless because mom 241 00:11:24,640 --> 00:11:26,600 Speaker 1: is moving in anyways. 242 00:11:26,360 --> 00:11:29,200 Speaker 3: Right, And I gotta say, I like, Harriet, I bought 243 00:11:29,240 --> 00:11:29,920 Speaker 3: in this scene. 244 00:11:30,040 --> 00:11:31,920 Speaker 2: Yeah. Oh, Harriet's great. I did. 245 00:11:32,000 --> 00:11:32,680 Speaker 3: Harry was great. 246 00:11:32,720 --> 00:11:33,040 Speaker 2: Carl. 247 00:11:33,080 --> 00:11:34,439 Speaker 3: I was like, you're doing too much, Carl. 248 00:11:34,720 --> 00:11:36,920 Speaker 1: Carl, Well, okay, this is. 249 00:11:37,000 --> 00:11:38,160 Speaker 3: I was like, why are you making that face? 250 00:11:38,240 --> 00:11:39,560 Speaker 2: Carl? What is that face. 251 00:11:39,600 --> 00:11:41,440 Speaker 3: Are you smiling? Reginald grimacing? 252 00:11:41,520 --> 00:11:44,480 Speaker 1: Reginald has a great sitcom face, like he is giving 253 00:11:44,840 --> 00:11:46,920 Speaker 1: so much face. 254 00:11:47,000 --> 00:11:49,400 Speaker 2: But I wasn't sure why he was giving that face 255 00:11:49,520 --> 00:11:50,679 Speaker 2: at that I was like, are. 256 00:11:50,679 --> 00:11:55,080 Speaker 3: You you gmc? Are you smiling? What's happening? But it 257 00:11:55,120 --> 00:11:55,840 Speaker 3: was it was a lot. 258 00:11:56,080 --> 00:11:56,760 Speaker 1: It was a lot. 259 00:11:56,880 --> 00:11:58,520 Speaker 3: But then you have but I guess i'd be making 260 00:11:58,520 --> 00:12:00,160 Speaker 3: that face of my mom was moving into. 261 00:12:00,200 --> 00:12:06,800 Speaker 1: Oh, I was just kidding, Janie, Yeah, I I For 262 00:12:06,840 --> 00:12:09,040 Speaker 1: half of this episode, I was just trying to place 263 00:12:09,760 --> 00:12:12,160 Speaker 1: who belonged to who, Like, who are these people in 264 00:12:12,200 --> 00:12:14,520 Speaker 1: relation to each other? So I'm like, we're. 265 00:12:14,480 --> 00:12:18,360 Speaker 3: Quite specific with their description. They were quite specific. 266 00:12:19,240 --> 00:12:21,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, well no, but I'm like, why is okay if 267 00:12:21,440 --> 00:12:22,160 Speaker 2: if Carl. 268 00:12:22,160 --> 00:12:24,560 Speaker 1: I'm trying to get these names right because everybody dragged 269 00:12:24,600 --> 00:12:29,480 Speaker 1: me for calling Ben Savage Ben Savage or Corey Ben Savage. 270 00:12:29,480 --> 00:12:31,679 Speaker 1: I don't know their character names people, Okay, I only know. 271 00:12:31,640 --> 00:12:34,800 Speaker 3: Them as like people Kelly, Joe, Marie, Reginald. 272 00:12:34,679 --> 00:12:36,920 Speaker 1: Whatever I will learn. I'm trying to learn their character names, 273 00:12:36,920 --> 00:12:39,640 Speaker 1: so give me some grace here. So I was thinking, 274 00:12:40,640 --> 00:12:43,200 Speaker 1: Harriet's the one that said, okay, Mom, okay, Mom, you 275 00:12:43,200 --> 00:12:45,040 Speaker 1: can come move in. But it's not her mother, it's 276 00:12:45,160 --> 00:12:48,960 Speaker 1: Carl's mother, right, So why doesn't Carl just say, hey, mom, 277 00:12:49,240 --> 00:12:51,319 Speaker 1: this isn't gonna work. What you can't move in? 278 00:12:51,360 --> 00:12:54,960 Speaker 2: Because that's because that's because Mama Winslow is not going 279 00:12:55,040 --> 00:12:58,000 Speaker 2: to let that happens. It's not a little Winslow's way 280 00:12:58,160 --> 00:12:59,280 Speaker 2: or look by way. 281 00:12:59,320 --> 00:13:01,240 Speaker 3: It is, yes, all right. 282 00:13:01,600 --> 00:13:04,800 Speaker 2: But then I say, Harriet's fine with it though. Harriet's 283 00:13:04,840 --> 00:13:07,240 Speaker 2: just like this is just this is happening. So let's 284 00:13:07,360 --> 00:13:11,680 Speaker 2: because there's a there's a I think, an aspect of respect, okay, 285 00:13:12,160 --> 00:13:13,959 Speaker 2: of elders, of your mom, of your you know what 286 00:13:14,000 --> 00:13:18,000 Speaker 2: I mean. That I think very true. You know, I think. 287 00:13:18,520 --> 00:13:22,199 Speaker 3: Culturally it's a little bit different. There's like, you know 288 00:13:22,240 --> 00:13:22,920 Speaker 3: what I mean, like you. 289 00:13:22,840 --> 00:13:27,320 Speaker 2: Don't argue with mama, and that seems kind of like 290 00:13:27,360 --> 00:13:30,120 Speaker 2: what Carl is used to is like you just Mom's 291 00:13:30,240 --> 00:13:30,880 Speaker 2: running the house. 292 00:13:30,960 --> 00:13:31,960 Speaker 3: And same with Harriet. 293 00:13:32,000 --> 00:13:35,160 Speaker 2: Harriet's running the house with the women in this family 294 00:13:35,240 --> 00:13:36,920 Speaker 2: are the ones that are in charge. 295 00:13:36,960 --> 00:13:39,400 Speaker 1: She's definitely wearing the pants in this family. She is 296 00:13:39,440 --> 00:13:43,800 Speaker 1: such a strong female role model. I love her strong 297 00:13:43,840 --> 00:13:44,960 Speaker 1: shoulder pads, like. 298 00:13:45,640 --> 00:13:47,160 Speaker 2: Got it, love it, you loved it. 299 00:13:47,920 --> 00:13:49,760 Speaker 1: I do think these two play well off each other, 300 00:13:49,800 --> 00:13:52,480 Speaker 1: Harriet and Carl, because she is so stable and he 301 00:13:52,640 --> 00:13:55,800 Speaker 1: is just a little about all of this happening. So 302 00:13:55,960 --> 00:13:58,240 Speaker 1: I think they do play very well off of each other. 303 00:13:58,280 --> 00:13:58,800 Speaker 1: I don't know. 304 00:13:59,160 --> 00:14:00,680 Speaker 2: Was he in Perfect Strangers too? 305 00:14:01,200 --> 00:14:01,760 Speaker 1: Are we introd? 306 00:14:02,200 --> 00:14:02,560 Speaker 2: Cal? 307 00:14:02,600 --> 00:14:03,160 Speaker 3: I thought he was. 308 00:14:03,640 --> 00:14:05,280 Speaker 2: Carl was the security guard. 309 00:14:05,559 --> 00:14:08,440 Speaker 1: Ah, that's right, he's the cop. These two looked like 310 00:14:08,480 --> 00:14:12,280 Speaker 1: they had been married for decades, So I bought into this, 311 00:14:12,280 --> 00:14:24,760 Speaker 1: this marriage for sure. So then Carl and Harriet's oldest son, Eddie, 312 00:14:24,840 --> 00:14:26,920 Speaker 1: is trying to butter up his parents so he can 313 00:14:26,960 --> 00:14:29,600 Speaker 1: go to a party at his friend's house tonight. 314 00:14:30,640 --> 00:14:33,360 Speaker 2: I felt very typical teenager, very teenager. 315 00:14:33,800 --> 00:14:34,920 Speaker 3: Hey, I'm going to wash your car. 316 00:14:35,160 --> 00:14:36,400 Speaker 2: Why they knew? 317 00:14:36,520 --> 00:14:39,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, they knew immediately he was up to something. He 318 00:14:39,760 --> 00:14:42,200 Speaker 1: neglects to tell them at first that it's a party 319 00:14:42,880 --> 00:14:46,480 Speaker 1: that ends at two am, right, which I'm like, he's 320 00:14:46,520 --> 00:14:48,400 Speaker 1: fifteen years old. Why do you got to be out 321 00:14:48,440 --> 00:14:50,600 Speaker 1: till two am? Nothing good happens after two am? I 322 00:14:50,640 --> 00:14:53,320 Speaker 1: am that parent. So I ran my team when I 323 00:14:53,360 --> 00:14:55,760 Speaker 1: am team Carl and Harriet on this, and then I'm like, no, 324 00:14:55,800 --> 00:14:58,040 Speaker 1: you can't stay out that late. Your curfew is at ten. 325 00:14:58,040 --> 00:15:00,680 Speaker 3: True, I'm torn. 326 00:15:00,800 --> 00:15:01,280 Speaker 1: You're torn. 327 00:15:01,760 --> 00:15:06,000 Speaker 2: I'm torn because I'm like, it's the nineties or eighties. Yeah, 328 00:15:06,000 --> 00:15:07,280 Speaker 2: this was the end. And I could let you know 329 00:15:07,320 --> 00:15:09,840 Speaker 2: if it was a neighborhood kid and they're like, you 330 00:15:09,880 --> 00:15:12,320 Speaker 2: know whatever, a couple of blocks away, Like, I don't know, 331 00:15:12,320 --> 00:15:15,240 Speaker 2: it feels a little bit different, but maybe you know. 332 00:15:15,320 --> 00:15:19,320 Speaker 1: Well, once I learned it was a rambo watching, it's 333 00:15:19,360 --> 00:15:22,400 Speaker 1: not like a rave. They're just watching TV. So yeah, 334 00:15:22,440 --> 00:15:23,120 Speaker 1: maybe right. 335 00:15:22,960 --> 00:15:24,480 Speaker 3: That was the thing is I was like, well, I've 336 00:15:24,520 --> 00:15:26,680 Speaker 3: kind of agreed with my mother Winslow on. 337 00:15:26,680 --> 00:15:29,240 Speaker 1: This was like yeah, yeah, yeah, you can light up, 338 00:15:29,400 --> 00:15:31,440 Speaker 1: lighten up a little bit about it, but not till 339 00:15:31,440 --> 00:15:31,920 Speaker 1: two am. 340 00:15:32,080 --> 00:15:34,600 Speaker 2: Like let's just maybe I would have been like eleven 341 00:15:34,680 --> 00:15:36,760 Speaker 2: thirty midnight, Okay, that's plenty two am. 342 00:15:36,880 --> 00:15:38,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, nobody needs to stay up that late. 343 00:15:40,800 --> 00:15:45,640 Speaker 2: So then Carl's mom Estelle she finally arrives and oh yes, 344 00:15:46,000 --> 00:15:50,040 Speaker 2: she tells her granddaughters all about her experiences abroad and 345 00:15:50,200 --> 00:15:53,560 Speaker 2: apparently she knew the Queen of England, like so random, 346 00:15:53,840 --> 00:15:56,320 Speaker 2: and that was so I was like, what, I don't 347 00:15:56,320 --> 00:15:57,720 Speaker 2: know if she was making a joke or if she 348 00:15:57,800 --> 00:16:01,400 Speaker 2: was being serious. No, that she's being serious. Apparently that 349 00:16:01,520 --> 00:16:02,160 Speaker 2: she was. 350 00:16:02,280 --> 00:16:05,160 Speaker 1: She like knows she was. 351 00:16:06,480 --> 00:16:09,160 Speaker 2: I think the implication is, I don't know, like a 352 00:16:09,160 --> 00:16:14,640 Speaker 2: assistant housekeeper, some worked for various wealthy people and traveled 353 00:16:14,680 --> 00:16:18,880 Speaker 2: with them. Okay, that seemed to be what it was, 354 00:16:18,920 --> 00:16:20,720 Speaker 2: and that was how she kind of met all those people. 355 00:16:20,760 --> 00:16:23,160 Speaker 1: But that was just rare. I either want more backstory 356 00:16:23,200 --> 00:16:24,680 Speaker 1: on her or none. But I feel like they just 357 00:16:24,720 --> 00:16:26,360 Speaker 1: teased this and then it went nowhere. 358 00:16:26,960 --> 00:16:28,640 Speaker 3: It was again, it was. 359 00:16:30,040 --> 00:16:32,880 Speaker 2: Throwing out that you knew the Queen of England sort 360 00:16:32,880 --> 00:16:34,920 Speaker 2: of as an offhand comment, and then moving on. I 361 00:16:34,960 --> 00:16:37,360 Speaker 2: was like, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait that let's. 362 00:16:37,240 --> 00:16:39,360 Speaker 1: Get back to that, right, No, it felt. 363 00:16:39,200 --> 00:16:41,160 Speaker 2: Like but it also felt like, let's not get back 364 00:16:41,160 --> 00:16:43,440 Speaker 2: to that, because that felt like it was shoehorned into 365 00:16:43,440 --> 00:16:44,080 Speaker 2: the conversation. 366 00:16:44,320 --> 00:16:48,920 Speaker 1: Also, you know, for sure, oh absolutely, But this actress 367 00:16:49,800 --> 00:16:53,880 Speaker 1: is played by Rosetta. She's so perfect, great, just shines, 368 00:16:54,040 --> 00:16:57,040 Speaker 1: She shines this whole episode. She's a perfect mama Winslow. 369 00:16:57,680 --> 00:16:59,440 Speaker 1: You know, she is just opinionated. 370 00:16:59,640 --> 00:17:03,280 Speaker 2: She's yeah, subtle judgment like this's just amazing, not so 371 00:17:03,280 --> 00:17:05,240 Speaker 2: subtle judgment sometimes not so subtle. 372 00:17:05,600 --> 00:17:07,000 Speaker 1: She loves her grand babies. 373 00:17:07,080 --> 00:17:08,600 Speaker 2: I was just like, oh yeah, this is I think 374 00:17:08,640 --> 00:17:11,040 Speaker 2: she's a good addition to the house. I really she's great. 375 00:17:11,240 --> 00:17:13,800 Speaker 2: Yeah again, like throws the dynamic of everything off, which 376 00:17:13,840 --> 00:17:16,280 Speaker 2: is exactly what you need in a sitcom. 377 00:17:16,320 --> 00:17:19,879 Speaker 1: Absolutely, And can we talk for a minute about the 378 00:17:19,880 --> 00:17:23,320 Speaker 1: house because when the still arrives, right, what is this 379 00:17:23,359 --> 00:17:24,400 Speaker 1: front door situation? 380 00:17:24,560 --> 00:17:26,480 Speaker 3: Okay, so I was thinking that too, and then I went, 381 00:17:26,520 --> 00:17:27,200 Speaker 3: wait a minute. 382 00:17:27,040 --> 00:17:30,000 Speaker 2: It looks like we're in Chicago building. We're in Chicago. 383 00:17:30,280 --> 00:17:32,240 Speaker 2: It's going to be like a mud room, like a 384 00:17:32,280 --> 00:17:35,160 Speaker 2: front You'll have like a front because when you come 385 00:17:35,200 --> 00:17:37,720 Speaker 2: in and out, you don't want I mean, if you go, 386 00:17:39,040 --> 00:17:42,440 Speaker 2: you don't want your front door like directly opening from 387 00:17:42,480 --> 00:17:44,920 Speaker 2: all the coal there. So you usually have like kind 388 00:17:44,960 --> 00:17:49,199 Speaker 2: of a little there's like a like a vestibule ye 389 00:17:49,560 --> 00:17:51,600 Speaker 2: take off, like a mud room where you basically, yeah, 390 00:17:51,600 --> 00:17:53,359 Speaker 2: you kind of come in, but a lot I noticed 391 00:17:53,400 --> 00:17:56,280 Speaker 2: that a lot on like houses in the East Coast 392 00:17:56,359 --> 00:17:58,120 Speaker 2: or where it snows or things like that, you kind 393 00:17:58,119 --> 00:18:01,200 Speaker 2: of have like a come in here, it's tiled whatever. 394 00:18:01,320 --> 00:18:03,120 Speaker 2: And then her second door is there. 395 00:18:03,520 --> 00:18:04,879 Speaker 1: Well it didn't because I thought. 396 00:18:04,720 --> 00:18:05,080 Speaker 3: The same thing. 397 00:18:05,119 --> 00:18:07,920 Speaker 2: I was like, and then I remember the outside of 398 00:18:07,920 --> 00:18:09,760 Speaker 2: the house and I was like, oh, yeah, the implication 399 00:18:09,880 --> 00:18:12,000 Speaker 2: is that it's like a front little up the steps 400 00:18:12,240 --> 00:18:13,320 Speaker 2: there and then whatever. 401 00:18:13,359 --> 00:18:15,800 Speaker 1: It was very distracted, but it didn't very distracted. 402 00:18:15,960 --> 00:18:18,720 Speaker 2: It didn't they need some coats and boots there then right, 403 00:18:18,880 --> 00:18:20,119 Speaker 2: they did it didn't. 404 00:18:20,280 --> 00:18:22,920 Speaker 1: There was no plant and a. 405 00:18:23,160 --> 00:18:24,280 Speaker 3: Like an apart It looked like a hallway. 406 00:18:24,320 --> 00:18:25,719 Speaker 1: It looked like an apartment hallway. 407 00:18:25,840 --> 00:18:26,000 Speaker 2: Right. 408 00:18:26,119 --> 00:18:28,040 Speaker 1: I was just like, huh, I. 409 00:18:28,000 --> 00:18:28,600 Speaker 3: Thought the same thing. 410 00:18:28,600 --> 00:18:30,159 Speaker 2: I was like, wait, what do we and then I 411 00:18:30,200 --> 00:18:32,720 Speaker 2: was like, oh, okay, that makes sense, but not the 412 00:18:32,760 --> 00:18:33,679 Speaker 2: way that they did it. 413 00:18:33,720 --> 00:18:36,240 Speaker 1: And the house was so cluttered, like I just couldn't 414 00:18:36,240 --> 00:18:43,159 Speaker 1: get past how many chotchkeys. And it wasn't the kitchen. 415 00:18:43,640 --> 00:18:46,000 Speaker 2: I mean, we had Danny Tanner, so Danny Tanner was 416 00:18:46,040 --> 00:18:48,600 Speaker 2: the cleanest. They did not have a Dandy got in 417 00:18:48,640 --> 00:18:49,440 Speaker 2: the first episode. 418 00:18:49,480 --> 00:18:50,879 Speaker 3: First episode, the house was a night. 419 00:18:50,720 --> 00:18:52,439 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, that was a plot point. That was a 420 00:18:52,440 --> 00:18:55,240 Speaker 1: plot point. The houses a nightmare, their moms to come over. 421 00:18:55,320 --> 00:18:56,120 Speaker 3: But if you. 422 00:18:56,160 --> 00:18:59,399 Speaker 2: Notice, like the girls rooms, all of that, it's a 423 00:18:59,400 --> 00:19:02,359 Speaker 2: set deck thing you've got to have because otherwise in 424 00:19:02,560 --> 00:19:06,760 Speaker 2: it looks so bland. You have to overcompensate because on 425 00:19:06,840 --> 00:19:09,080 Speaker 2: camera it just if you would decorate it like a 426 00:19:09,119 --> 00:19:09,680 Speaker 2: normal room. 427 00:19:09,720 --> 00:19:11,200 Speaker 3: You look around and be like, oh my god, it's 428 00:19:11,400 --> 00:19:12,000 Speaker 3: bearing here. 429 00:19:12,119 --> 00:19:14,360 Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, well, I think I think the full House 430 00:19:14,359 --> 00:19:16,200 Speaker 2: set deck they got it. They got it. They struck 431 00:19:16,200 --> 00:19:20,159 Speaker 2: the right balance. Well, but I mean it, I don't know. 432 00:19:20,320 --> 00:19:21,080 Speaker 2: Ours was easy. 433 00:19:21,080 --> 00:19:23,960 Speaker 3: We had a theme, you know, nautical, Yeah, right. 434 00:19:24,040 --> 00:19:24,760 Speaker 1: This this that. 435 00:19:25,000 --> 00:19:26,639 Speaker 2: I don't think there was a theme. There was no 436 00:19:26,760 --> 00:19:30,560 Speaker 2: seapappy that was certainly missing. Definitely not but yeah, I 437 00:19:30,760 --> 00:19:31,080 Speaker 2: don't know. 438 00:19:31,160 --> 00:19:33,040 Speaker 1: There was just so much stuff on the counter, like 439 00:19:33,080 --> 00:19:35,119 Speaker 1: the kitchen counters. I was like, put that stuff away. 440 00:19:35,240 --> 00:19:37,000 Speaker 1: You don't need all your spices out on the counter 441 00:19:37,040 --> 00:19:38,000 Speaker 1: and all of your jobs. 442 00:19:37,880 --> 00:19:39,520 Speaker 3: The spices are out on the counter. In the full 443 00:19:39,520 --> 00:19:42,679 Speaker 3: house kitchen, it was a goose. There's all that crap 444 00:19:42,760 --> 00:19:44,800 Speaker 3: on the on the island. 445 00:19:44,440 --> 00:19:47,000 Speaker 2: That goes around this west stuff, and there's a bunch 446 00:19:47,040 --> 00:19:49,560 Speaker 2: of crap on the kitchen on the back wall there 447 00:19:49,600 --> 00:19:52,920 Speaker 2: with the counter spaces. I think I'm just space in that. Yeah, 448 00:19:53,000 --> 00:19:54,240 Speaker 2: I think I'm just so used. 449 00:19:54,080 --> 00:19:57,720 Speaker 1: To these house. This was the walls. 450 00:19:57,800 --> 00:19:59,400 Speaker 2: If you look at the walls in the girls room, 451 00:20:00,240 --> 00:20:06,680 Speaker 2: there's a Winchester Mystery House Tour brochure pinned to No 452 00:20:06,680 --> 00:20:11,720 Speaker 2: No Joke, pinned to DJ's bulletin board, Like there's random 453 00:20:11,760 --> 00:20:17,000 Speaker 2: crap in there, all of the like SPADs and set debbins. 454 00:20:17,320 --> 00:20:19,760 Speaker 2: It's almost like set Next being paid per item that 455 00:20:19,800 --> 00:20:22,840 Speaker 2: they put into. Yes, you gotta make it like you 456 00:20:22,920 --> 00:20:25,080 Speaker 2: have to build the story of like Okay, this kid 457 00:20:25,119 --> 00:20:28,439 Speaker 2: has one ribbons doing that or whatever. Yeah. Yeah, Like 458 00:20:28,520 --> 00:20:30,960 Speaker 2: DJ was into horses, so they had all these horse 459 00:20:31,040 --> 00:20:33,280 Speaker 2: figurines ventures into Nelson. 460 00:20:34,480 --> 00:20:36,119 Speaker 1: And then you were into Doogie Houser. 461 00:20:35,960 --> 00:20:38,359 Speaker 3: So you know this is just wow. 462 00:20:39,480 --> 00:20:44,200 Speaker 1: Oops, okay, okay, So anyways, I will try to get 463 00:20:44,200 --> 00:20:46,800 Speaker 1: past the distraction of the cluttered house and the weird 464 00:20:46,880 --> 00:20:51,199 Speaker 1: mudroom entrance. Uh Eddie confides in his grandma about this 465 00:20:51,280 --> 00:20:54,040 Speaker 1: party that he wants to go to tonight. Those curfews 466 00:20:54,080 --> 00:20:58,000 Speaker 1: at ten the Rambo movie marathon doesn't start until nine thirty, 467 00:20:58,359 --> 00:21:00,440 Speaker 1: and so Estelle assures him that she is going to 468 00:21:00,520 --> 00:21:04,040 Speaker 1: fight for his right to party. 469 00:21:04,240 --> 00:21:05,439 Speaker 3: Now, see, this didn't feel. 470 00:21:06,000 --> 00:21:09,679 Speaker 2: This felt like not true to who she is for 471 00:21:09,800 --> 00:21:13,000 Speaker 2: me in the brief moment that I've never in seven minutes, 472 00:21:13,040 --> 00:21:15,320 Speaker 2: you've known still that I've never I'm like this lady 473 00:21:15,359 --> 00:21:16,719 Speaker 2: is not about to let a child go out till 474 00:21:16,720 --> 00:21:17,520 Speaker 2: two o'clock in the morning. 475 00:21:17,600 --> 00:21:19,200 Speaker 1: No, I didn't know if she was just trying to 476 00:21:19,240 --> 00:21:20,960 Speaker 1: be buddy buddy with her grand I. 477 00:21:20,920 --> 00:21:23,160 Speaker 2: Get well, yeah, I guess that kind of the thing 478 00:21:23,280 --> 00:21:27,440 Speaker 2: is that, like you're the you're seeing that like she'll 479 00:21:27,520 --> 00:21:29,520 Speaker 2: let the grandkids get away with murder and that she's 480 00:21:29,520 --> 00:21:30,720 Speaker 2: going to kind of interfere with stuff. 481 00:21:30,760 --> 00:21:31,119 Speaker 3: So I get that. 482 00:21:31,200 --> 00:21:33,560 Speaker 1: And she's undermining Carl's parents. 483 00:21:34,080 --> 00:21:35,680 Speaker 3: She's exporting that's the thing. 484 00:21:35,800 --> 00:21:38,359 Speaker 1: It's like, I care what you think, Grandma. You have 485 00:21:38,480 --> 00:21:39,720 Speaker 1: to respect what the parents. 486 00:21:40,640 --> 00:21:43,240 Speaker 2: But I do feel like she would have been like 487 00:21:43,600 --> 00:21:46,440 Speaker 2: two am, yeah, absolutely, it's too late. 488 00:21:46,680 --> 00:21:48,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, why would grandma be on board with that? 489 00:21:48,440 --> 00:21:50,720 Speaker 3: So I don't know who knows? Who knows what Grandma's 490 00:21:50,760 --> 00:21:50,960 Speaker 3: up to. 491 00:21:51,119 --> 00:21:54,679 Speaker 2: Grandma's just trying to create Haral world. She's like, I know, 492 00:21:54,720 --> 00:21:56,840 Speaker 2: the Queen of England, I mean of England. 493 00:21:57,520 --> 00:21:59,840 Speaker 1: She's a fascinating character. I'm gonna keep watching the show 494 00:22:00,160 --> 00:22:06,520 Speaker 1: to find out more about Estelle. Then Harriet's sister Rachel, 495 00:22:06,840 --> 00:22:08,320 Speaker 1: So it took me a minute to figure this out 496 00:22:08,359 --> 00:22:11,199 Speaker 1: to who she is in the context of the family. 497 00:22:11,200 --> 00:22:14,879 Speaker 1: She's Harriet's sister and the mother of this baby. This 498 00:22:15,000 --> 00:22:18,800 Speaker 1: random baby just showed up in the kitchen. Baby Richie 499 00:22:18,840 --> 00:22:21,480 Speaker 1: and so we find out in the later scene that 500 00:22:21,720 --> 00:22:22,960 Speaker 1: Rachel's husband died. 501 00:22:23,680 --> 00:22:26,040 Speaker 2: I don't think she says how he died, though, did she. Well, 502 00:22:26,080 --> 00:22:28,119 Speaker 2: they never, they never really don't get into it too much. 503 00:22:28,119 --> 00:22:30,800 Speaker 1: We'll get that in season eight. Yeah, and that's how 504 00:22:30,840 --> 00:22:34,160 Speaker 1: she and her baby came to live with the Winslows. Okay, 505 00:22:34,280 --> 00:22:36,439 Speaker 1: so it took me a while to put that together. 506 00:22:37,040 --> 00:22:40,159 Speaker 2: So she's like, the well, cause I was just like, 507 00:22:40,520 --> 00:22:43,480 Speaker 2: I felt like it was explained like over. I was like, Okay, 508 00:22:43,520 --> 00:22:45,600 Speaker 2: we get you're basically drawing a family tree at this 509 00:22:45,640 --> 00:22:46,159 Speaker 2: point by the. 510 00:22:46,160 --> 00:22:48,040 Speaker 1: Time we got to that scene. But when she walks 511 00:22:48,040 --> 00:22:50,240 Speaker 1: in with all of Estelle's luggage, I thought she was 512 00:22:50,240 --> 00:22:52,399 Speaker 1: a Stelle's daughter. But she's not. 513 00:22:52,800 --> 00:22:56,800 Speaker 2: She's she's not related. She's related to the Harriet side. 514 00:22:57,240 --> 00:23:00,720 Speaker 2: But I thought, oh, it's the daughter she's says. But 515 00:23:01,119 --> 00:23:05,240 Speaker 2: earlier that she says something about Carl. I think says, 516 00:23:05,520 --> 00:23:07,600 Speaker 2: your sister went to go pick up mom at the airport, 517 00:23:08,560 --> 00:23:09,480 Speaker 2: if I remember. 518 00:23:09,240 --> 00:23:12,200 Speaker 1: Right, probably I was there a lot of a lot 519 00:23:12,200 --> 00:23:15,359 Speaker 1: of characters, yes, And I was just it took me 520 00:23:15,400 --> 00:23:16,960 Speaker 1: a minute to put the family tree together, but I 521 00:23:16,960 --> 00:23:19,720 Speaker 1: think there, you got it together. So we've got this 522 00:23:19,800 --> 00:23:20,280 Speaker 1: is how they. 523 00:23:20,200 --> 00:23:20,879 Speaker 2: Get the baby. 524 00:23:21,080 --> 00:23:24,560 Speaker 3: There that they have a baby, and she's. 525 00:23:24,480 --> 00:23:28,400 Speaker 2: So she like the uncle Jesse. She's the sister, he's 526 00:23:28,440 --> 00:23:31,360 Speaker 2: the brother in law. She's the sister in law. She's 527 00:23:31,400 --> 00:23:34,520 Speaker 2: like the uncle Jesse version. I don't know, she's not 528 00:23:34,600 --> 00:23:45,879 Speaker 2: really just as far as like being an aunt or uncle. Yeah, 529 00:23:46,520 --> 00:23:48,920 Speaker 2: I feel like I remember Toma Hopkins did not last 530 00:23:49,040 --> 00:23:49,560 Speaker 2: long on that. 531 00:23:49,520 --> 00:23:53,720 Speaker 3: Show Last Friction. Really things on there. 532 00:23:53,760 --> 00:23:55,920 Speaker 2: I don't know. I could be please don't quote me 533 00:23:55,960 --> 00:23:58,720 Speaker 2: on that, Okay, I could be making but like it 534 00:23:58,840 --> 00:24:00,440 Speaker 2: sounded familiar when I was like. 535 00:24:00,400 --> 00:24:02,560 Speaker 3: Wait a minute, I feel like I. 536 00:24:02,520 --> 00:24:04,520 Speaker 2: Thought Thelma was in like most of the series. 537 00:24:04,600 --> 00:24:07,320 Speaker 1: That's crazy. She was on that girl Lele and so 538 00:24:07,880 --> 00:24:09,760 Speaker 1: I remember everyone's like, oh my god, she's a legend, 539 00:24:09,760 --> 00:24:11,480 Speaker 1: and I'm like, yeah, she's a legend, but maybe it's 540 00:24:11,560 --> 00:24:14,240 Speaker 1: just not a family matters legend, just a legend for 541 00:24:14,359 --> 00:24:15,520 Speaker 1: all her other work. I don't know. 542 00:24:16,440 --> 00:24:20,880 Speaker 2: I'm not sure what season that that that they left them. 543 00:24:20,960 --> 00:24:22,960 Speaker 3: Oh, we're gonna he just looked it up. 544 00:24:23,040 --> 00:24:24,520 Speaker 2: Okay, we're getting live updates. 545 00:24:24,560 --> 00:24:25,800 Speaker 1: Stay tuned, live updates. 546 00:24:25,840 --> 00:24:28,920 Speaker 3: Season four she left, Okay, so she was she did. 547 00:24:29,119 --> 00:24:32,200 Speaker 1: She did half of the shows Okay, a little less 548 00:24:32,200 --> 00:24:32,520 Speaker 1: than half. 549 00:24:32,560 --> 00:24:35,720 Speaker 2: All right, that's that's so significant. Yeah, he just feels 550 00:24:35,720 --> 00:24:36,760 Speaker 2: like that too. Where does she. 551 00:24:36,760 --> 00:24:38,680 Speaker 3: Move a contract? Renegotiation? 552 00:24:38,800 --> 00:24:42,760 Speaker 2: Is what that feels like? That is that's exactly the money. 553 00:24:42,880 --> 00:24:46,720 Speaker 1: No, you don't see, Yeah, but fascinating. 554 00:24:46,760 --> 00:24:52,440 Speaker 2: Okay. So then after Estelle tries to interfere with Carl 555 00:24:52,560 --> 00:24:56,320 Speaker 2: and Harriet's parenting, a fight blows up at the dinner table. 556 00:24:57,200 --> 00:24:59,560 Speaker 2: Carl finally realizes he needs to talk with his mother 557 00:24:59,640 --> 00:25:04,000 Speaker 2: and set some boundaries. Big lesson for Carl. 558 00:25:04,200 --> 00:25:08,840 Speaker 1: He for someone who's a cop in real life, I 559 00:25:08,880 --> 00:25:12,920 Speaker 1: assume that you know, he he's stern and to the point, 560 00:25:12,960 --> 00:25:15,320 Speaker 1: but like he's not like this in his private home life. 561 00:25:15,320 --> 00:25:19,040 Speaker 1: He's anxious all the time and not direct. He's passive, aggressive, 562 00:25:19,119 --> 00:25:20,920 Speaker 1: he doesn't want to talk to his mother, Like it's 563 00:25:20,920 --> 00:25:22,880 Speaker 1: just like mom's intimidating. 564 00:25:23,080 --> 00:25:25,240 Speaker 2: I think that's the thing, is like he's a cop 565 00:25:25,280 --> 00:25:28,080 Speaker 2: and everyone like he's you know, secure and everywhere else, 566 00:25:28,119 --> 00:25:30,240 Speaker 2: But when it comes to his mom, he's like, oh lord, 567 00:25:30,280 --> 00:25:31,200 Speaker 2: this lady falls apart. 568 00:25:31,240 --> 00:25:32,080 Speaker 3: I'm gonna argue with her. 569 00:25:32,160 --> 00:25:33,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, totally falls apart. 570 00:25:34,240 --> 00:25:36,640 Speaker 2: I get that that happens. You know, moms can be 571 00:25:37,400 --> 00:25:39,080 Speaker 2: big presences. 572 00:25:38,800 --> 00:25:41,600 Speaker 1: And estelle is she has hurt. I got to eat 573 00:25:41,640 --> 00:25:43,680 Speaker 1: right now, or my digestion isn't good. 574 00:25:44,440 --> 00:25:45,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly, that's what I mean. 575 00:25:45,760 --> 00:25:48,040 Speaker 2: Like this, Yeah, so I can tell why Carl's like, 576 00:25:48,080 --> 00:25:49,080 Speaker 2: oh god, oh god, what. 577 00:25:49,080 --> 00:25:50,000 Speaker 3: Am I am? I doing it wrong? 578 00:25:50,040 --> 00:25:50,560 Speaker 2: I do it? Yeah. 579 00:25:50,680 --> 00:25:53,440 Speaker 1: I feel like he could have instead of saying complaining 580 00:25:53,480 --> 00:25:55,600 Speaker 1: Mom keeps sitting in my chair. You just read director 581 00:25:55,680 --> 00:25:57,560 Speaker 1: say hey Mom, that's my chair, let me sit you 582 00:25:57,600 --> 00:26:00,119 Speaker 1: over here instead. But that's the thing, it's logical for 583 00:26:00,160 --> 00:26:00,640 Speaker 1: a sitcom. 584 00:26:00,680 --> 00:26:03,360 Speaker 2: But see that's now the thing is is this kind 585 00:26:03,359 --> 00:26:05,880 Speaker 2: of relationship. He would say that, and she'd be like, well, 586 00:26:05,880 --> 00:26:08,160 Speaker 2: it's more comfortable and I'm old, so I'm gonna sit here. 587 00:26:08,320 --> 00:26:09,840 Speaker 3: But you know what I mean, that's the thing is. 588 00:26:09,880 --> 00:26:11,400 Speaker 3: I don't think exactly. 589 00:26:11,480 --> 00:26:14,240 Speaker 2: I don't think it's he can't tell her to move 590 00:26:14,320 --> 00:26:19,480 Speaker 2: once once she sits. You are not telling her mother Winslow, 591 00:26:19,640 --> 00:26:21,280 Speaker 2: that she needs to move, You know what I mean. 592 00:26:21,400 --> 00:26:24,560 Speaker 1: This is a complishing. It's the use you got respect 593 00:26:24,560 --> 00:26:26,600 Speaker 1: your elders don't question Mama Winslow. 594 00:26:26,680 --> 00:26:30,119 Speaker 2: But she's living a driving its house with their. 595 00:26:30,040 --> 00:26:33,919 Speaker 1: Rules and their parenting, so right, friction, This is a 596 00:26:34,359 --> 00:26:40,480 Speaker 1: tremis for a serious excellent. So Carl and Estelle have 597 00:26:40,520 --> 00:26:43,560 Speaker 1: a heart to heart and acknowledge that they really want 598 00:26:43,560 --> 00:26:45,560 Speaker 1: this living situation to work. 599 00:26:46,320 --> 00:26:48,280 Speaker 3: And you can see to their background music better. 600 00:26:49,119 --> 00:26:51,399 Speaker 2: Oh really, rather than like violins, it had like a 601 00:26:51,400 --> 00:26:53,600 Speaker 2: little it was a little uh I don't know. That's 602 00:26:53,640 --> 00:27:00,320 Speaker 2: a little less chaccharine and like sappy shmoopy, yeah, lesh 603 00:27:00,400 --> 00:27:04,520 Speaker 2: movie and more like uh I don't know, just a 604 00:27:04,520 --> 00:27:05,359 Speaker 2: little more upbeat, a. 605 00:27:05,320 --> 00:27:07,800 Speaker 1: Little more up beat. Yeah, I thought this this You 606 00:27:07,800 --> 00:27:10,359 Speaker 1: could see the formula is working the sitcomference. You got 607 00:27:10,400 --> 00:27:12,520 Speaker 1: the heart to heart, you got the music, you got 608 00:27:12,520 --> 00:27:15,280 Speaker 1: the hont you got the compromise, and it all just works. 609 00:27:15,600 --> 00:27:18,720 Speaker 1: You know, this is how you end a sitcom. Yes, 610 00:27:19,119 --> 00:27:23,480 Speaker 1: and it's lovely. It's lovely. Then I thought that was 611 00:27:23,520 --> 00:27:25,680 Speaker 1: the end of the show. Oh no, it's not. Carl 612 00:27:25,720 --> 00:27:28,000 Speaker 1: goes up to Eddie's room, which is in the attic. 613 00:27:28,880 --> 00:27:34,560 Speaker 2: Throw somebody in the in the These people's addicts are incredible, immaculates, 614 00:27:34,560 --> 00:27:38,920 Speaker 2: are the best addicts I've ever seen. Dust, there's no decay. No, 615 00:27:39,119 --> 00:27:44,720 Speaker 2: they've got windows. It's gorgeous attics. 616 00:27:44,880 --> 00:27:47,320 Speaker 1: Yes, and one of the kids is always displaced, just 617 00:27:47,359 --> 00:27:49,200 Speaker 1: to throw. 618 00:27:49,720 --> 00:27:50,160 Speaker 3: In the attic. 619 00:27:51,720 --> 00:27:55,399 Speaker 1: Uh. So Carl extends Eddie's curfew and allows him to 620 00:27:55,480 --> 00:27:57,359 Speaker 1: go to the party tonight. 621 00:27:57,760 --> 00:28:01,480 Speaker 2: But not before Eddie was creeping on the neighbor across 622 00:28:01,520 --> 00:28:04,199 Speaker 2: the street with binoculars, and so is Carl. 623 00:28:04,359 --> 00:28:06,760 Speaker 3: And I couldn't figure out. I wanted to. 624 00:28:06,680 --> 00:28:10,359 Speaker 2: Tell myself, said Carl took the binoculars because he was like, 625 00:28:10,400 --> 00:28:12,000 Speaker 2: I don't want my son to do this. But I 626 00:28:12,040 --> 00:28:14,200 Speaker 2: think the joke was he took him because he wanted 627 00:28:14,240 --> 00:28:14,600 Speaker 2: to be the. 628 00:28:14,560 --> 00:28:15,200 Speaker 3: One to look. 629 00:28:15,400 --> 00:28:17,560 Speaker 2: Yes, I think you're right that that's a joke, and 630 00:28:17,560 --> 00:28:20,560 Speaker 2: that made it creepier. I didn't again, this is this 631 00:28:20,680 --> 00:28:25,280 Speaker 2: was the nineties. You're nothing's funnier than you know, inappropriate 632 00:28:25,560 --> 00:28:29,280 Speaker 2: dude watching. Yeah, yeah, yeah, pretty much. 633 00:28:29,320 --> 00:28:32,400 Speaker 1: Well I at first innocent me. I was just like, oh, 634 00:28:32,600 --> 00:28:36,520 Speaker 1: isn't that cute? Eddie is looking at the Rambo marathon 635 00:28:36,560 --> 00:28:38,479 Speaker 1: across the street that he couldn't go to. 636 00:28:38,800 --> 00:28:45,680 Speaker 2: But no, I know it's a love he's so su 637 00:28:46,920 --> 00:28:49,680 Speaker 2: and you're like, no, no, no, no, no, lady get across. 638 00:28:49,760 --> 00:28:51,600 Speaker 1: When he said don't move to a different room, I 639 00:28:51,640 --> 00:28:54,360 Speaker 1: was like, oh, it's not a not a Rambo marathon, 640 00:28:54,400 --> 00:28:57,200 Speaker 1: it's a it's a lady so yeah, I didn't love that. 641 00:28:57,200 --> 00:28:59,320 Speaker 1: That very distracted. 642 00:28:59,600 --> 00:29:02,440 Speaker 2: The weird camera angles in this scene too. Yeah, there 643 00:29:02,480 --> 00:29:04,120 Speaker 2: was there was a lot of things where I was like, 644 00:29:04,960 --> 00:29:07,479 Speaker 2: can you move You're in his light? Can you There 645 00:29:07,560 --> 00:29:09,640 Speaker 2: was take a step you need to step. 646 00:29:09,400 --> 00:29:11,200 Speaker 3: Back because you can't you feel the shadow? You know, 647 00:29:11,320 --> 00:29:13,520 Speaker 3: she feels like that, right, the actor. 648 00:29:13,400 --> 00:29:16,120 Speaker 1: Should have felt the shadow. And there was one shot 649 00:29:16,120 --> 00:29:18,880 Speaker 1: where it was like shot from the floor up and 650 00:29:18,920 --> 00:29:19,840 Speaker 1: I'm just like what what? 651 00:29:20,080 --> 00:29:21,200 Speaker 3: Yes is this? 652 00:29:21,440 --> 00:29:21,600 Speaker 2: Yeah? 653 00:29:21,600 --> 00:29:25,040 Speaker 3: It was waste yea. Yeah, there's some strange things happening 654 00:29:25,080 --> 00:29:25,360 Speaker 3: in there. 655 00:29:25,400 --> 00:29:29,720 Speaker 1: Thinking and then the episode ends with Harriet, carl Estelle 656 00:29:29,720 --> 00:29:33,360 Speaker 1: and Rachel singing He's got the whole world in his hands. 657 00:29:34,120 --> 00:29:34,560 Speaker 2: I love this. 658 00:29:34,720 --> 00:29:36,000 Speaker 1: What a great end A. 659 00:29:36,000 --> 00:29:38,360 Speaker 3: Pilot ended with a with a song and. 660 00:29:38,440 --> 00:29:39,040 Speaker 1: With a family. 661 00:29:40,320 --> 00:29:42,640 Speaker 2: I hope this is a recurring gospel show. You got. 662 00:29:43,680 --> 00:29:45,640 Speaker 1: I like it. I bought into it. I bought into 663 00:29:45,720 --> 00:29:46,200 Speaker 1: the family. 664 00:29:46,320 --> 00:29:46,600 Speaker 3: I did. 665 00:29:47,480 --> 00:29:47,680 Speaker 2: Yeah. 666 00:29:48,600 --> 00:29:51,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, it was you know, it was cute. It was. 667 00:29:51,520 --> 00:29:51,960 Speaker 2: It was cute. 668 00:29:52,000 --> 00:29:54,560 Speaker 1: There were lots of scanned out like I thought. Kelly 669 00:29:54,600 --> 00:29:56,320 Speaker 1: Williams as Laura. 670 00:29:56,360 --> 00:29:59,880 Speaker 2: Was Yeah, it's fantastic, like she has so much shaded grass. 671 00:30:00,560 --> 00:30:04,560 Speaker 1: Oh my gosh. She was fantastic Darius. I can tell 672 00:30:04,600 --> 00:30:06,640 Speaker 1: he's kind of growing into his character a little bit 673 00:30:06,720 --> 00:30:08,480 Speaker 1: for sure, staying a little more comfortable with. 674 00:30:08,440 --> 00:30:10,320 Speaker 2: And the little girl was not the little girl that 675 00:30:10,360 --> 00:30:13,000 Speaker 2: wind up being there later. And then that little girl 676 00:30:13,280 --> 00:30:16,160 Speaker 2: went away too. Oh so she was recast, and then 677 00:30:16,160 --> 00:30:18,520 Speaker 2: the second was recast, and the second one went and 678 00:30:18,560 --> 00:30:21,400 Speaker 2: the second one. They're literally the sort of joke is 679 00:30:21,440 --> 00:30:24,720 Speaker 2: she walks up the stairs one day and then never returns. 680 00:30:24,800 --> 00:30:27,200 Speaker 3: You never hear from her again or see her. 681 00:30:27,520 --> 00:30:29,680 Speaker 2: She's just and the producers are like off into the night. 682 00:30:29,720 --> 00:30:31,760 Speaker 2: Audiences will never notice. 683 00:30:31,320 --> 00:30:32,959 Speaker 3: They're like, they're not paying attention. 684 00:30:33,040 --> 00:30:36,120 Speaker 2: They won't be watching this in forty years, right. 685 00:30:37,240 --> 00:30:38,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, the little girl. 686 00:30:38,120 --> 00:30:39,640 Speaker 1: I don't have much to say about the little girl, 687 00:30:39,840 --> 00:30:42,160 Speaker 1: although you know, I'm thinking the Olsens should feel lucky 688 00:30:42,160 --> 00:30:45,200 Speaker 1: by now, because you got the little girl was disposed 689 00:30:45,200 --> 00:30:47,800 Speaker 1: of unfamily matters. She was recast on Boy Meets World 690 00:30:47,880 --> 00:30:50,800 Speaker 1: as well. The little girl was recast there. So I'm like, man, we. 691 00:30:50,760 --> 00:30:52,840 Speaker 2: Got lucky with the Oldsens. It's just like maybe the 692 00:30:52,880 --> 00:30:53,560 Speaker 2: old shows. 693 00:30:53,800 --> 00:30:54,240 Speaker 3: I'm glad. 694 00:30:54,280 --> 00:30:58,080 Speaker 2: I'm glad I made it for chopping block. Nobody is safee, 695 00:30:58,200 --> 00:31:02,560 Speaker 2: nobody is safe. I mean, well, I mean Danny. We 696 00:31:02,600 --> 00:31:03,560 Speaker 2: didn't replace Danny. 697 00:31:03,640 --> 00:31:07,160 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, that's right, but not after the series aired, 698 00:31:07,240 --> 00:31:10,160 Speaker 1: like the series after the pilot was shot, well after 699 00:31:10,160 --> 00:31:13,200 Speaker 1: it was shot. But it hadn't nobody has no searching 700 00:31:13,280 --> 00:31:18,760 Speaker 1: on YouTube that No, it hasn't never aired yet. So yeah, 701 00:31:18,800 --> 00:31:20,080 Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know if we got an 702 00:31:20,080 --> 00:31:23,840 Speaker 1: accurate feel of family matters without Rcle, like because because 703 00:31:23,880 --> 00:31:30,280 Speaker 1: he's kind became the show, you know, yeah, so uh yeah, 704 00:31:30,360 --> 00:31:32,280 Speaker 1: And I don't think he comes in until season two, 705 00:31:32,320 --> 00:31:35,240 Speaker 1: so we could watch all of season one and not 706 00:31:35,440 --> 00:31:36,080 Speaker 1: no right and. 707 00:31:36,160 --> 00:31:38,440 Speaker 2: No matter of a moment. Yeah, so I feel like, 708 00:31:38,600 --> 00:31:39,960 Speaker 2: I don't know, but I like this. 709 00:31:40,360 --> 00:31:41,080 Speaker 1: I like this show. 710 00:31:41,120 --> 00:31:41,600 Speaker 3: It's cute. 711 00:31:41,680 --> 00:31:42,440 Speaker 2: It's cute. 712 00:31:43,480 --> 00:31:46,400 Speaker 3: I like, yeah, I like I like Mother Winslow. 713 00:31:46,560 --> 00:31:47,040 Speaker 2: She's great. 714 00:31:47,080 --> 00:31:49,840 Speaker 3: I like her. I like I love Harriet. Harriet were 715 00:31:49,920 --> 00:31:50,760 Speaker 3: kind of my two favorites. 716 00:31:50,800 --> 00:31:54,640 Speaker 1: She's fantastic. Carl is like the emotional core of the show, 717 00:31:54,800 --> 00:31:58,440 Speaker 1: like a Danny Tanner, yes, like a lovable father figure. 718 00:31:59,120 --> 00:32:01,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, it was cute. It was a you know, it's 719 00:32:01,520 --> 00:32:02,120 Speaker 3: a cute TJ. 720 00:32:02,320 --> 00:32:04,720 Speaker 2: I can see how it fit into the t G. 721 00:32:04,880 --> 00:32:07,320 Speaker 2: I f Cannon absolutely absolutely. 722 00:32:07,360 --> 00:32:11,440 Speaker 1: It was a great addition. Same producers, Tom Miller, Bob Boyette. 723 00:32:11,000 --> 00:32:13,920 Speaker 1: They had the winning formula for families. 724 00:32:14,080 --> 00:32:16,440 Speaker 3: Although this was a Biley, this was a Bickley Warren. 725 00:32:17,000 --> 00:32:18,920 Speaker 2: Oh show, it wasn't Miller Boyette. 726 00:32:19,680 --> 00:32:22,800 Speaker 3: Miller Boyett developed it. Basically they were like. 727 00:32:22,800 --> 00:32:25,840 Speaker 2: The overseeing development producers, which is kind of what they 728 00:32:25,880 --> 00:32:31,640 Speaker 2: were on Full House too. But it was uh uh yeah, 729 00:32:31,680 --> 00:32:35,800 Speaker 2: Bickley Warren not not Mark Warren, Michael Warren, Michael Warren 730 00:32:35,960 --> 00:32:38,240 Speaker 2: and I forget what the other. I feel bad, I 731 00:32:38,320 --> 00:32:41,720 Speaker 2: forget the other mister Bickley's name. But they were another 732 00:32:42,440 --> 00:32:48,480 Speaker 2: very popular sitcom producing doing. Okay, Yeah, they were basically 733 00:32:48,480 --> 00:32:50,440 Speaker 2: I think like the Jeff Franklin, you know what I mean, 734 00:32:50,520 --> 00:32:51,680 Speaker 2: like the creator, the writer. 735 00:32:51,800 --> 00:32:53,680 Speaker 1: There has been two Jeff's. This is that would be 736 00:32:53,720 --> 00:32:54,680 Speaker 1: the exactly. 737 00:32:54,560 --> 00:32:55,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly. 738 00:32:55,280 --> 00:32:58,320 Speaker 2: They were what Mark and Dennis became, Yes, exactly. 739 00:32:58,400 --> 00:33:02,360 Speaker 1: Okay, okay, so yeah, no, it was a great, great show. 740 00:33:02,720 --> 00:33:06,080 Speaker 1: I think a lot of I don't know what I'm 741 00:33:06,080 --> 00:33:07,600 Speaker 1: talking about here, but I think a lot of people 742 00:33:08,240 --> 00:33:10,600 Speaker 1: when of that I never know what I'm talking about, 743 00:33:10,720 --> 00:33:12,840 Speaker 1: but I think a lot of people mistakenly assumed that 744 00:33:12,880 --> 00:33:17,040 Speaker 1: this was like the first black family sitcom on TV, 745 00:33:17,080 --> 00:33:19,160 Speaker 1: which is not true. We have the Jefferson's, we have 746 00:33:19,240 --> 00:33:22,160 Speaker 1: the Cosby Show, but maybe millennials, this is the first 747 00:33:22,800 --> 00:33:26,360 Speaker 1: black family sitcom that they watch well on TV every 748 00:33:26,360 --> 00:33:26,880 Speaker 1: Friday night. 749 00:33:27,280 --> 00:33:33,320 Speaker 4: To be very real, people of color were incredibly underrepresented 750 00:33:33,400 --> 00:33:38,000 Speaker 4: in television, in sitcom families, in any families, you know. 751 00:33:38,280 --> 00:33:41,000 Speaker 2: I mean, they were always kind of the you know, 752 00:33:41,160 --> 00:33:46,280 Speaker 2: the side character or the you know. And I think, yeah, 753 00:33:46,320 --> 00:33:48,680 Speaker 2: I think that this was the stix out in people's 754 00:33:48,720 --> 00:33:52,880 Speaker 2: minds because also, like the popularity of family sitcoms at 755 00:33:52,880 --> 00:33:55,000 Speaker 2: this time, it was, you know, it was it was 756 00:33:55,000 --> 00:33:58,760 Speaker 2: a big one. But yeah, the Jefferson, Sanford Soon, two 757 00:33:58,760 --> 00:34:02,560 Speaker 2: to seven, God, I love to seven. Yeah, all, you know, 758 00:34:02,760 --> 00:34:05,600 Speaker 2: there's all of those. It was great, yeah, good times. Yeah. 759 00:34:05,640 --> 00:34:08,120 Speaker 1: And I think I like that this was just framed 760 00:34:08,160 --> 00:34:11,520 Speaker 1: as it's it's a maybe I'm mistaken by saying it's 761 00:34:11,520 --> 00:34:13,719 Speaker 1: a black family sitcom. It was a family sitcom that 762 00:34:13,800 --> 00:34:16,239 Speaker 1: happened to feature a black family. So it's just like 763 00:34:16,280 --> 00:34:20,239 Speaker 1: this is just it's not it's not it's representation without spectacle. 764 00:34:20,320 --> 00:34:22,040 Speaker 1: It's like this is just the norm. 765 00:34:22,440 --> 00:34:24,680 Speaker 3: And well, I do think I think it was. 766 00:34:24,880 --> 00:34:27,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that, you know, the strong mom character 767 00:34:27,719 --> 00:34:29,040 Speaker 2: is a strong gram you know like that. 768 00:34:29,560 --> 00:34:32,600 Speaker 3: I think probably resonated with a lot of people because you. 769 00:34:32,600 --> 00:34:33,800 Speaker 2: Don't don't mess with Mama. 770 00:34:33,600 --> 00:34:36,920 Speaker 1: Don't mess with exactly Mama knows best. 771 00:34:37,120 --> 00:34:39,279 Speaker 2: But but no, I I and you know, I know 772 00:34:39,320 --> 00:34:40,840 Speaker 2: a lot of people kind of unfairly go oh it 773 00:34:40,880 --> 00:34:43,120 Speaker 2: was just you know, the full house, but made for 774 00:34:43,280 --> 00:34:48,000 Speaker 2: you know, different people, different culture. But but it wasn't 775 00:34:48,080 --> 00:34:50,920 Speaker 2: it was you know, there were similarities. But every if 776 00:34:50,920 --> 00:34:54,680 Speaker 2: you watch every family sitcom, they're pretty much at similarities. Right, 777 00:34:55,400 --> 00:34:59,399 Speaker 2: Someone's probably did someone's probably moving in and uh yeah 778 00:34:59,440 --> 00:35:00,200 Speaker 2: in hilario and. 779 00:35:00,239 --> 00:35:03,840 Speaker 1: Sues, hilarity and sues. There's definitely a formula. But yeah, no, 780 00:35:03,920 --> 00:35:06,279 Speaker 1: I just wanted to comment on the importance of this 781 00:35:06,400 --> 00:35:09,440 Speaker 1: show and the cultural you know, it was. It was important, 782 00:35:09,520 --> 00:35:11,960 Speaker 1: It was great. And now I want to watch when 783 00:35:12,040 --> 00:35:14,680 Speaker 1: the first episode with Erkeles. 784 00:35:15,000 --> 00:35:16,520 Speaker 3: Come back and watch that. We like, let's watch the 785 00:35:16,640 --> 00:35:17,320 Speaker 3: Erkle debut. 786 00:35:17,520 --> 00:35:20,400 Speaker 2: Yeah yeah right, you guys, Well, thanks for listening to 787 00:35:20,480 --> 00:35:21,560 Speaker 2: our little minisode here. 788 00:35:22,680 --> 00:35:23,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, you want to check. 789 00:35:23,640 --> 00:35:25,960 Speaker 2: Us out on Instagram, follow us at how read Podcast, 790 00:35:26,239 --> 00:35:29,160 Speaker 2: send us an email at Howard Tandrito's at gmail dot com. 791 00:35:29,480 --> 00:35:33,000 Speaker 2: How Rude Merch dot com is our merch store and. 792 00:35:33,320 --> 00:35:35,000 Speaker 1: Let us know what you think of family matters too. 793 00:35:35,120 --> 00:35:36,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, let us know what you think of family matters? 794 00:35:36,680 --> 00:35:38,800 Speaker 2: Are the comments on the page? Send us an email. 795 00:35:38,880 --> 00:35:41,040 Speaker 2: What you think if this was a family that you 796 00:35:41,120 --> 00:35:43,000 Speaker 2: related to, you know, all that kind of stuff. 797 00:35:44,000 --> 00:35:45,920 Speaker 1: Did you prefer it as the Erkle Show or do 798 00:35:45,960 --> 00:35:46,759 Speaker 1: you miss like these? 799 00:35:47,160 --> 00:35:47,319 Speaker 3: Yeah? 800 00:35:47,680 --> 00:35:48,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, it was early. 801 00:35:48,719 --> 00:35:51,440 Speaker 1: Seasons where it was more about the family instead of 802 00:35:51,440 --> 00:35:52,200 Speaker 1: the crazy neighbor. 803 00:35:52,719 --> 00:35:53,360 Speaker 3: Yeah, I would. 804 00:35:53,360 --> 00:35:55,400 Speaker 2: I would be interested to hear how people felt about that, 805 00:35:55,440 --> 00:35:57,120 Speaker 2: and like if it was a weird sort of oh, 806 00:35:57,160 --> 00:35:58,719 Speaker 2: we don't like this kid and then we like him, 807 00:35:58,840 --> 00:36:01,439 Speaker 2: or you know, let us know your thoughts, guys, we'd 808 00:36:01,480 --> 00:36:04,360 Speaker 2: love to hear it. And I think that's it. So 809 00:36:05,120 --> 00:36:09,480 Speaker 2: in the meantime, remember the world is small, the house 810 00:36:09,560 --> 00:36:09,919 Speaker 2: is full. 811 00:36:10,600 --> 00:36:12,359 Speaker 3: Oh no, I had one. 812 00:36:12,560 --> 00:36:18,520 Speaker 2: All these so many chose there's set deck everywhere, set 813 00:36:18,520 --> 00:36:22,000 Speaker 2: deck not that's just spilling into the camera aisle, like 814 00:36:22,320 --> 00:36:26,400 Speaker 2: it just keeps the of crap that they found in 815 00:36:26,440 --> 00:36:30,120 Speaker 2: the in the sony prop departments that they. 816 00:36:30,040 --> 00:36:33,000 Speaker 1: Just hire prop departments in all the house. 817 00:36:33,320 --> 00:36:36,400 Speaker 3: Yes, exactly, well they're you know, they were collectors. 818 00:36:36,080 --> 00:36:36,400 Speaker 2: So. 819 00:36:38,080 --> 00:36:40,160 Speaker 1: Kept the house warmer in those Chicago. 820 00:36:40,640 --> 00:36:41,600 Speaker 3: Right Chicago's cold. 821 00:36:41,600 --> 00:36:42,759 Speaker 2: You got to have a lot of crap in there 822 00:36:42,800 --> 00:36:45,840 Speaker 2: to fill it up, you know. I just have drafts everywhere, 823 00:36:46,239 --> 00:36:46,359 Speaker 2: So 824 00:36:48,800 --> 00:36:50,719 Speaker 3: All right, everybody, We'll see you next time.