WEBVTT - Cowboys Break: How Morris Makes Sense

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<v Speaker 1>Are you ready for a break? Yes? Are you ready

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<v Speaker 1>for a break? Absolutely? Ready for a break? Yeah? And

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<v Speaker 1>so much for that. It's time for The Break on

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<v Speaker 1>Dallas Cowboys dot Com with Nick Eatman, David Hellman, and

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<v Speaker 1>bar Garcia and Derek Eagleton. It is Tuesday, July thirtieth,

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<v Speaker 1>twenty nineteen, Season fifteen, episode number sixteen. Welcome to another

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<v Speaker 1>edition of The Break. We are live from Hawkstart, California,

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<v Speaker 1>and we've got some really, really great conversation for you

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<v Speaker 1>guys today. I hope you guys are ready. Got a

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<v Speaker 1>lot to talk about with Ezekiel Elliott and Cowboys signing

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<v Speaker 1>of a running back yesterday, and maybe that's there's a

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<v Speaker 1>message in that, maybe there's not. We're gonna get into

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<v Speaker 1>some camp observations from yesterday. Yesterday was the first day

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<v Speaker 1>the Cowboys were in pads. Lots of things to notice.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll take the opinions of these guys and what they

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<v Speaker 1>saw and let you guys here a little bit about

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<v Speaker 1>what happened in practice. And if we have a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit of time, I want to dive a little bit

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<v Speaker 1>into the tight end position and Jason Witten coming back

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<v Speaker 1>this season. Guys like Blake Jarwin, who've now had a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit experience and where they fit with Jason Witten

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<v Speaker 1>now in the tight end room, like talk a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit about that. I think there's some interesting conversations there.

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<v Speaker 1>How's everybody feeling this morning? Lovely, really really good good.

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<v Speaker 1>There is a practice that will be starting up here

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<v Speaker 1>at ten forty five this morning out here in Oxnards,

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<v Speaker 1>so we'll be ending the show a little bit early,

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<v Speaker 1>but let's just jump right into it. Also, there's there's

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<v Speaker 1>a guy sam blasting over there. There's nothing we can

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<v Speaker 1>do about it. We're sorry. Hopefully he'll stop. I apologize.

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<v Speaker 1>We all apologize on behalf of the sam blaster. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>if we get to just know, I know we're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>I know we're gonna get comments about it. And it's

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<v Speaker 1>not like we're doing it on purpose. We get too

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<v Speaker 1>far into this camp and he's still doing that. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>going to send you over there to have a conversation

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<v Speaker 1>with him, the muscle because because I'm the muscle. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>the shortest guy is the more our guy we send

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<v Speaker 1>to handle those kinds of things. He'll just speak to

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<v Speaker 1>you in Spanish. Oh, I'm waiting for the time because

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<v Speaker 1>Nick has that little giggle like, yeah, something I was

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<v Speaker 1>about to say. I was about to say, you might

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<v Speaker 1>want to take Amber, but she's gonna say that's fine. Okay, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>here we go. Let's do a little it is. Let's

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<v Speaker 1>do a little blanket coverage here, start the show. I

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<v Speaker 1>got a couple of sentences for you guys, a couple

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<v Speaker 1>of statements that will be a blank that you guys

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<v Speaker 1>will fill in. Let's start first with this statement. Zeke's

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<v Speaker 1>decision to train in Cabo is blank, Dave, I don't

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<v Speaker 1>even have a reaction to it. He's he is at

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<v Speaker 1>a gym that his agent owns. He's been there before,

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<v Speaker 1>he trained there during his suspension. Maybe it's a bad

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<v Speaker 1>look because Cabo is a vacation destination. I'm because of

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<v Speaker 1>what happened in Dallas many years ago. But go ahead.

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<v Speaker 1>But when Ezekiel Elliott was eight, I mean, so what,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't care. I know Ezekiel Elliott. You know he

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<v Speaker 1>comes with his baggage. He's had some issues off the field,

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<v Speaker 1>but in terms of like playing running back, he's a professional.

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<v Speaker 1>Whether he's here next week or a month from now,

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<v Speaker 1>he'll be ready. I don't care, Amber, I mean I

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<v Speaker 1>think he he's matured. He's mature enough to where I

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<v Speaker 1>wouldn't expect him to make a dumb decision, especially at

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<v Speaker 1>the in the spot his end right now, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>looking for a contract. I would not think he would

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<v Speaker 1>make that mistake. Yes he has in the past. You

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<v Speaker 1>can laugh about it. But if you're if right now,

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<v Speaker 1>what you're trying to do is get your money and

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<v Speaker 1>your deal, you wouldn't do something like that. And like

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<v Speaker 1>Dave said, he's been there before and he trained over there.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, players like training on the sand and somehow

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<v Speaker 1>that does something for your feet or something. It helps

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<v Speaker 1>your calves immensely. Good time calf workout. It's a good workout. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>well no, probably not your calf. Zeke's decision training Cobo

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<v Speaker 1>Nick is um interesting, okay, um. You know, I just

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not going to go there with you on on

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<v Speaker 1>he's matured and he's not gonna have a bad look

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<v Speaker 1>because he's already had bad looks. He had a bad

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<v Speaker 1>look this offseason, and we argued on that, like does

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<v Speaker 1>that really matter? But it still was a bad look.

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<v Speaker 1>It was a bad look to to be in Vegas

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<v Speaker 1>for you know, maybe seven or eight hours before you're

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<v Speaker 1>going to have your own camp in Dallas, and then

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<v Speaker 1>also to be you know, um, you know, stopped by

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<v Speaker 1>the police is not good either. But I just think

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<v Speaker 1>that it's just interesting to he's gonna go do that.

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<v Speaker 1>But if training is a part of it, that's fine,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, long as training is in that because because

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<v Speaker 1>you're right, he's gonna come back, and when he comes back,

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<v Speaker 1>he's got to be ready, and then we'll see if

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<v Speaker 1>he's if it's doing more training or more partying. So

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<v Speaker 1>with all that being said, my opinion, I'm speaking for

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<v Speaker 1>each of you, my opinion on how long this holdout

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<v Speaker 1>will last. Blank Amber, While I may after I've seen

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<v Speaker 1>that he goes to Cabbo. The Cowboys signing Alfred Moore

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<v Speaker 1>is clearly they're getting ready and preparing themselves in case

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<v Speaker 1>this goes past the first week of the regular season.

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<v Speaker 1>So it doesn't what it looks so far as of

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<v Speaker 1>right now, to me, it doesn't seem like this is

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<v Speaker 1>going to happen before the season starts. Nick Um, I

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<v Speaker 1>think they are covering all bases here. I still think

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<v Speaker 1>they're gonna try to get this thing done before the season,

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<v Speaker 1>but it wouldn't be I wouldn't be surprised if he

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<v Speaker 1>goes into September. I will be surprised if he misses

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<v Speaker 1>the first game, but I will I don't think it'll

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<v Speaker 1>I think it'll go that far. But we'll talk about

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<v Speaker 1>the Morris thing. I don't. I think they're just kind

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<v Speaker 1>of covering themselves. Yeah, my opinion hasn't changed. I hope

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<v Speaker 1>they're smarter than to think they're covering themselves by signing

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<v Speaker 1>Alfred Morris. I mean, if that's you know, they're like, well,

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<v Speaker 1>he might miss games. We gotta get Alfred Morris. Good

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<v Speaker 1>luck with that. No offense Alfred, I'm sorry, but not

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<v Speaker 1>the way we all love. I love him to death,

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<v Speaker 1>but I don't think it's a great way to protect

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<v Speaker 1>yourself against not having Ezekiel Elliott. And that's kind of

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<v Speaker 1>my point is he does have leverage because they there

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<v Speaker 1>isn't something they can do short of trading another first

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<v Speaker 1>round pick. There's not a whole lot they can do

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<v Speaker 1>to ensure themselves against not having him at this point

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<v Speaker 1>in the year. So yeah, I think it's more base

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<v Speaker 1>covering than getting ready for I'm sort of standoff. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe it does go into September, but I still don't

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<v Speaker 1>think he misses games. Here's one makes me think otherwise.

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<v Speaker 1>The Cowboys tend to be a little patient in a way.

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<v Speaker 1>They tend to play their cards at their own time.

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<v Speaker 1>To me, this happened pretty soon, especially after Jerry Jones

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<v Speaker 1>talked about giving these new younger guys the opportunity of,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, training out here and seeing them develop. It

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<v Speaker 1>happened rather too quickly. I know Alfred had had visited

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<v Speaker 1>another team and all that, but I don't know, It's

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<v Speaker 1>just it doesn't seem we'll see what happened. One thing

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<v Speaker 1>to note on that, and Dave you just tweeted about this.

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<v Speaker 1>Right before we went on the air. Will McClay was

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<v Speaker 1>one with one of the local radio stations and talked

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<v Speaker 1>about some of the rationales to why they went out

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<v Speaker 1>and got Alfred Moors. Talk a little bit about that

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<v Speaker 1>because maybe that answered a little bit of what Amber

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<v Speaker 1>is is alluding to there. Well, it's really fun. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, we'll talk for fifteen minutes with our friends

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<v Speaker 1>on one oh five through the fan and it's it

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<v Speaker 1>started off, you know, talk about the Morris move. While

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<v Speaker 1>we're creating competition, doesn't mean we don't like our young guys,

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<v Speaker 1>we've barely even practiced, but this is a guy who

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<v Speaker 1>knows how to do it. We're always about fostering competition,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, hopefully these young guys understand that they should

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<v Speaker 1>understand that they're in the NFL. And they just kept

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<v Speaker 1>asking him questions, and I think one of the guys

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<v Speaker 1>was like sort of trying to hint about, like, well,

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<v Speaker 1>is this a shot at Zeke Bubbaly or are you

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<v Speaker 1>trying to put him on notice? And finally Will sounded

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<v Speaker 1>kind of exasperate. He was like, most teams have six

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<v Speaker 1>backs in camp right now, we don't. We needed to

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<v Speaker 1>six back. Alfred is our six back, and there's no

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<v Speaker 1>guarantees beyond that we know what he can do. We

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<v Speaker 1>like him, but basically there's no guarantee he even makes

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<v Speaker 1>the roster. And so we had an hour to kill

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<v Speaker 1>before the show. So I went and looked, and he's right.

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<v Speaker 1>There were only five teams that didn't. Now there's four

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<v Speaker 1>because the Cowboys have six. Now most teams have seven

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<v Speaker 1>or eight. So you know, it seems like there's not

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<v Speaker 1>enough reps to go around, but they'll they'll find a

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<v Speaker 1>way to make it work. And you know, you can

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<v Speaker 1>argue that, say, well, why don't you just get a

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<v Speaker 1>young guy. They've got plenty of those. They got plenty

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<v Speaker 1>of players that have never taken a snap in the NFL. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>In fact, of the four backs that I could think

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<v Speaker 1>of right now, the two rookies, Jordan Chun and Darius Jackson,

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<v Speaker 1>they have a combined uh six carries, all of them

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<v Speaker 1>are Darius and all Darius, all in the last regular

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<v Speaker 1>season game of last year, right, right, So not a

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<v Speaker 1>lot to work with in terms of NFL experience. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, and I know that Jerry you know, came

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<v Speaker 1>out and said something on I guess it was Channel

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<v Speaker 1>eleven and said, we don't you know, you don't need

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<v Speaker 1>a running you don't need a rushing champion to win

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<v Speaker 1>a Super Bowl. I thought that was really interesting because

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<v Speaker 1>he does what do you mean, He's never won a

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<v Speaker 1>Super Bowl without the rushing champion. That was also a

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<v Speaker 1>long long time ago, and a lot about the NFL seas, right, So,

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<v Speaker 1>but before for you for Jerry Jones to say you

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<v Speaker 1>don't need one, he's never won a Super Bowl without one, right,

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<v Speaker 1>But I think I understand the point. It's happened four times,

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<v Speaker 1>three of them are in Smith for him. So the

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<v Speaker 1>way this team is structured and its structured kind of

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<v Speaker 1>similar to that. So it's he's right, but it's just

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<v Speaker 1>that he's never experienced it either. So the last three

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<v Speaker 1>times this team has experienced playoff success, it had the

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<v Speaker 1>rushing champion as well, whether that was Ezekiel Elliott or

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<v Speaker 1>DeMarco Murray. Yeah, so I think the thing is, can

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<v Speaker 1>you can kind of look at this and say, well,

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<v Speaker 1>they took that approach with wide receivers last year and

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<v Speaker 1>it didn't work out. You need a number one, And

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<v Speaker 1>if you want to start thinking about that with running back,

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<v Speaker 1>you might find yourself in the exact same situation. Although

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<v Speaker 1>today's NFL, he does have a legitimate point from standpoint.

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<v Speaker 1>In today's NFL, there are a lot of really good

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<v Speaker 1>teams that do very very good things without having the

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<v Speaker 1>best running back in the league. Now that means you

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<v Speaker 1>probably need to have one of the better quarterbacks in

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<v Speaker 1>the league or and or one of the best coaches

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<v Speaker 1>in the league. And so do you have those things?

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<v Speaker 1>That becomes the question if you don't have that kind

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<v Speaker 1>of runner that really put you over the top offensively. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>Will actually had a great answer to that too. He

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<v Speaker 1>was like, he's like Jerry, Jerry said something that's true,

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<v Speaker 1>Like you clearly don't need one because so many teams

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<v Speaker 1>have done it without him, but you know, and then

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<v Speaker 1>he followed that up by saying, like, we're interested in

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<v Speaker 1>having the best players, like we want the top talent

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<v Speaker 1>regardless of position, Like, of course we value Zeke all

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<v Speaker 1>that good stuff. And that's I've I think I've said

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<v Speaker 1>this already even since we started the show's back in

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<v Speaker 1>Oxnar's like, you don't need a running back of Zeke's caliber,

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<v Speaker 1>but this team, the way it's constructed, and especially at

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<v Speaker 1>this point in the year, like like there aren't other avenues.

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<v Speaker 1>You can't draft one free agencies long gone. It's it's

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<v Speaker 1>past time to try to find a real contingency plan.

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<v Speaker 1>You are tied to this guy if you want to

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<v Speaker 1>have the type of season you you want to have

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<v Speaker 1>in my opinion, So let's talk a little bit about

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<v Speaker 1>Alfred Morris and that's signing. One of the things I

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<v Speaker 1>thought was kind of curious in this whole thing was

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<v Speaker 1>his decision to come to the Cowboys. I think it's

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<v Speaker 1>a good move for the Cowboys because you improve competition

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<v Speaker 1>regards to what you think of the other backs here.

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<v Speaker 1>You brought in a back that has experienced deck and

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<v Speaker 1>challenge the guys that are here, teach them a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit along the way. I think that's a good move

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<v Speaker 1>for the Cowboys. But if you look at it from

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<v Speaker 1>Alfred Morris's point of view, he was going to have

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<v Speaker 1>a triald Or he did have a tryout with the Saints,

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<v Speaker 1>and then he made the decision to come here. My

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<v Speaker 1>big question is do you think he can make this team.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's assume Zeke comes back at whatever point Zeke comes back,

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<v Speaker 1>can't even make this team when you think about the

0:11:22.840 --> 0:11:25.520
<v Speaker 1>other guys that are here, he can. I think he

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<v Speaker 1>can make this team. He's got to be better, appreciably

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<v Speaker 1>better than Mike Webber and Darius Jackson. He's got to

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<v Speaker 1>be way better than them because and then if Tony

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<v Speaker 1>Pollard proves to be a better inside runner, then it's

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<v Speaker 1>gonna be hard for him. But if he's kind of

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<v Speaker 1>a guy that can play on the outside and does

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<v Speaker 1>different things, and if anything were to happen to Zeke,

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<v Speaker 1>they don't really have a good backup, then that's where

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<v Speaker 1>Morris will play into this. But if Webber shows some

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<v Speaker 1>flashes and Jackson shows some flashes. It's gonna be kind

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<v Speaker 1>of tough on him, but you know, better than two

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<v Speaker 1>guys that have a buying six carries. It's possible. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, he's he's thirty years old, but he's he's

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<v Speaker 1>been to two Pro Bowls. He's done this before. He

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<v Speaker 1>knows the scheme here, he knows everybody here. Actually I

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<v Speaker 1>didn't know this. I read it on Twitter last night.

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<v Speaker 1>His family stayed in Dallas when he went to San Francisco.

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<v Speaker 1>Seems like everybody does something about Dallas. I don't know

0:12:18.360 --> 0:12:20.320
<v Speaker 1>if it's the No. I mean, it's a great place

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<v Speaker 1>to live, don't get me wrong. Maybe no, stay in

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<v Speaker 1>Texas because same thing happens in Houston. There are a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of former athletes that live in the Houston area.

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<v Speaker 1>The state income tax. It's home for him, at least

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<v Speaker 1>for the time being. But yeah, I mean, I keep

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<v Speaker 1>saying this. Pollard's the only one besides Zeke that they've

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<v Speaker 1>invested anything in. You know, I thought, you know, Weber

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<v Speaker 1>was drafted and that's exciting, but so is bo Scarborough.

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<v Speaker 1>You know so, But the question is, you would think

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<v Speaker 1>for younger guys, you get something on special teams, Zeke,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, Alfred Morris is not going to be a

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<v Speaker 1>special team Yeah, but and Nick's right, he has to

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<v Speaker 1>be appreciably better. But if if you are appreciably more

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<v Speaker 1>confident that he will give you more juice than you'll

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<v Speaker 1>find a way to make that work, whether you know

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<v Speaker 1>linebackers or whatever. Maybe he's an inactive guy, you know

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<v Speaker 1>during the season. He doesn't play a lot on game day,

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<v Speaker 1>but if something were to happen, that's what he was

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<v Speaker 1>last time here. Um, you know, and I think it's

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<v Speaker 1>it's worth pointing out that before the draft, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>Jerry Jones was had kind of made some comments about,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, the direction of where they might go. It

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't Republic, but he kind of had said, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>we're gonna look at the draft, but Alfred Morris was

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<v Speaker 1>on the radar back then. This isn't just a oh

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<v Speaker 1>you're going to Cabbo watch this. Uh Morris. Morris has

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<v Speaker 1>been a guy they've been looking at. But they drafted

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<v Speaker 1>two running backs so they said, all right, we're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>go here. But he's been He's been on the radar

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<v Speaker 1>for a long time. That is a really good point

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<v Speaker 1>that I forgot about because they drafted two backs. But

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<v Speaker 1>way back in April, Jerry was like, you know, free

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<v Speaker 1>agency will be their force when the draft's over if

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<v Speaker 1>we need it. And maybe Alfred Morris going on all

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<v Speaker 1>these visits, maybe they felt like they couldn't wait around,

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<v Speaker 1>and that's why they did it so quickly. It's right right,

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<v Speaker 1>It's like, hey, if we want him on the roster,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe we need to do something before this Saints or

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<v Speaker 1>somebody else gets trigger happy. Maybe I still don't answer

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<v Speaker 1>your question though, wife for Morris, we don't know that, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and not that we would until we talk to him,

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<v Speaker 1>but but I do think, I mean, there were some

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<v Speaker 1>good points there. Obviously, his family already being in Dallas

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<v Speaker 1>that makes a difference. Him feeling like he already knows

0:14:16.840 --> 0:14:20.400
<v Speaker 1>the system makes a difference. At his age, my presumption

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<v Speaker 1>would be thinking about this offensive line, he may be like, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>there's if there's any place I feel like I can

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<v Speaker 1>do damage, Uh, here, it's here. You look at his

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<v Speaker 1>his average per carry two years ago when he was

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<v Speaker 1>with Dallas, it was a full point higher a full

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<v Speaker 1>yard higher than what it was in San Francisco last season.

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<v Speaker 1>So there's a difference that's made by the offensive line

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<v Speaker 1>and the offense that you're that you're running in, so

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<v Speaker 1>all those things matter. I just think that it's kind

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<v Speaker 1>of tough when you start figuring out how he makes

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<v Speaker 1>this team. If Zeke is back, I have a hard

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<v Speaker 1>time figuring out how he makes a team. And just

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<v Speaker 1>well I don't just because I mean, like you know,

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<v Speaker 1>Darius Jackson, Mike Weber, they're great guys, but not by

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<v Speaker 1>any means. You know, he didn't invest anything in him.

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<v Speaker 1>There a seventh round pick and a sixth round pick

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<v Speaker 1>from four years ago. If if it's even closer, if

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<v Speaker 1>Morris is even a little bit better, I don't think

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<v Speaker 1>that's a hard call at all. I'm gonna get pissed

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<v Speaker 1>if he gets cut. Who Alfred Alfred? Yeah? I mean

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, yes, well that sucks, because that sucks. He's

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<v Speaker 1>such a nice guy. He comes in here and then

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<v Speaker 1>let's say, okay, welcome to the NFL. Well, we still

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<v Speaker 1>need to talk about what happens contract wise. If he's

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<v Speaker 1>here in place week one, let's say, uh, Seek is

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<v Speaker 1>not back yet, what happens with his contract? Seek comes

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<v Speaker 1>like week two, he gets a big deal whatever, and

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<v Speaker 1>then you decide to cut Alfred, you have to pay

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<v Speaker 1>the whole year. And that's why, I mean, love Alfred

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<v Speaker 1>to death, but that's why I'm guarded about him making

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<v Speaker 1>the team, like he's gotta They gotta really know that

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<v Speaker 1>he's worth it, because they guarantee a salary by putting

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<v Speaker 1>him on the team, and we don't know exactly what

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<v Speaker 1>the contract, right they could say we're going to guarantee

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<v Speaker 1>three or four game checks. You know, there was a

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<v Speaker 1>reason why he decided to sign here, right, we don't

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<v Speaker 1>know all of them, but I mean it was probably

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<v Speaker 1>more than just I'm gonna play here, and I guess

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<v Speaker 1>that's what I was pointing to is at least for me,

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<v Speaker 1>I think there maybe a little bit more than we

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<v Speaker 1>know about why or what the Cowboys told him, And

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<v Speaker 1>that's where it starts to beg the question what kind

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<v Speaker 1>of picture did they paint of the whole Zeke situation

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<v Speaker 1>for Alfred that made him feel like this was a

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<v Speaker 1>good place for him to come and sign. Again, we

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<v Speaker 1>don't know any of that, but it is a little

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<v Speaker 1>curious why he made the decision. Dallas. I think there's

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<v Speaker 1>some reasons why, but it's still a little bit curious.

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<v Speaker 1>We're gonna take our first break and we come back.

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<v Speaker 1>We're gonna talk about practice yesterday. It was the first

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<v Speaker 1>out from these guys what their observations were. We got

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<v Speaker 1>a few observations that were pretty interesting, some interesting things

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<v Speaker 1>The crowd's already assembling. We started to see people filter

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<v Speaker 1>if you haven't been able to check it out from yesterday,

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<v Speaker 1>videos that we do live during training camp practice. Dave

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<v Speaker 1>Hellman was on it with Brian brought us good segment.

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<v Speaker 1>Makes you check that out and makes you continue to

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<v Speaker 1>check it out throughout training camp. All right, let's get

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<v Speaker 1>into some observations. Nick. I'll start with you talk me

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<v Speaker 1>through some of the things that you noticed yesterday as

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<v Speaker 1>you're watching practice first day in pat You know, I

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<v Speaker 1>thought it was really interesting to see what Robert Quinn

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<v Speaker 1>was going to be able to bring to the pass rush.

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<v Speaker 1>And and you know he's gonna have some better he's

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<v Speaker 1>gonna have some easier challenges than that. But if there

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<v Speaker 1>was any question about Tyrn Smith, I think he's gonna

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<v Speaker 1>be just fine. Um, Robert Quinn might be a really

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<v Speaker 1>good pro, but right now he was hard to see

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<v Speaker 1>it on that first day because he was like any

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<v Speaker 1>other player trying to get as Tyrant Smith. Yeah, it's

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<v Speaker 1>not happening. He couldn't stay on his feet. I honestly

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<v Speaker 1>believe like there's two things for for Robert Quinn's good

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<v Speaker 1>news is bad news. The bad news you got to

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<v Speaker 1>see this guy every day during practice during training camp.

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<v Speaker 1>The good news you're probably not going to see a

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<v Speaker 1>guy better than him on Sundays throughout the entire season.

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<v Speaker 1>So take it as a learning opportunity. But it's gonna

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<v Speaker 1>be tough. I'd here during training Yeah, I'll put it

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<v Speaker 1>more on Tyring. And we've noticed this this all off season.

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<v Speaker 1>He just looks as good as he's ever looked. I

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<v Speaker 1>think physically, he just looks like he's all he's never

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<v Speaker 1>not looked that good. But you could just tell he

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<v Speaker 1>seems healthy, and he looks the part, and he looks

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<v Speaker 1>like a badass. Yeah, and he played like one yesterday,

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<v Speaker 1>he said, yesterday, this is as good as he's felt

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<v Speaker 1>in a couple of years now. But thing that he's

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<v Speaker 1>got on his yeah, he looks like a cyborg honestly,

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<v Speaker 1>like he does. He doesn't look like a human being

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<v Speaker 1>when he's all padded up like that. It's it's it's frightening,

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<v Speaker 1>which is but he's like the least frightening guy like personally.

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<v Speaker 1>But yeah, yeah, that's gonna say. To be fair to

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<v Speaker 1>Robert Quinn, every time he went back against him, he

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<v Speaker 1>gotta timey a little bit better. I mean he was

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<v Speaker 1>still on the ground, but he got better every time.

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<v Speaker 1>You're right, the fourth time. The two the first two

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<v Speaker 1>he just he well, he got up just like yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>grass on his face. Third one got a little bit.

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<v Speaker 1>The fourth one had he had to have moved Dak. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>like Dak would have had to move up into the

0:21:24.400 --> 0:21:26.560
<v Speaker 1>pocket or whatever because he was kind of so yeah,

0:21:26.720 --> 0:21:28.720
<v Speaker 1>getting better. Yeah, And by the end of camp, my

0:21:28.800 --> 0:21:31.080
<v Speaker 1>suspicion is that he's gonna be winning some like he

0:21:31.119 --> 0:21:33.439
<v Speaker 1>won't win every time, but he's gonna win some because

0:21:33.720 --> 0:21:35.640
<v Speaker 1>that's also nature of We've seen that with other guys

0:21:35.640 --> 0:21:37.399
<v Speaker 1>when you have to that kind of match up. We

0:21:37.440 --> 0:21:39.320
<v Speaker 1>saw it with DeMarcus wearing Tyron when Tyrone was a

0:21:39.400 --> 0:21:41.720
<v Speaker 1>rookie and DeMarcus are just killing him. By the end

0:21:41.760 --> 0:21:43.919
<v Speaker 1>of camp, Tyron's holding his own a little bit, right,

0:21:43.920 --> 0:21:46.080
<v Speaker 1>So you get better as time goes on and you

0:21:46.200 --> 0:21:47.760
<v Speaker 1>kind of get to know what they like to do

0:21:47.840 --> 0:21:50.119
<v Speaker 1>and where what areas they're a little bit deficient in,

0:21:50.160 --> 0:21:52.760
<v Speaker 1>and you try to explore Tyron said after practice, and

0:21:52.800 --> 0:21:56.480
<v Speaker 1>he said, we will. We work together a lot after practice.

0:21:56.600 --> 0:21:58.879
<v Speaker 1>We're gonna make each other better, So that that's a

0:21:58.920 --> 0:22:02.560
<v Speaker 1>good part of it too. Resolutely, Dave throw a little

0:22:02.600 --> 0:22:06.360
<v Speaker 1>credit to Connor Williams too, been you know, he's done

0:22:06.400 --> 0:22:08.800
<v Speaker 1>amazing work in the offseason. He's one of the award

0:22:08.800 --> 0:22:12.280
<v Speaker 1>winners for best Strength and Conditioning and sure as hell

0:22:12.400 --> 0:22:14.520
<v Speaker 1>looks like it's translating out there. They called him up

0:22:14.520 --> 0:22:17.560
<v Speaker 1>in front of the team for compete period. Daniel Ross

0:22:18.160 --> 0:22:22.240
<v Speaker 1>just sat down on him just a just hack, power, strength,

0:22:22.280 --> 0:22:25.479
<v Speaker 1>all that stuff. We said he didn't have last year early,

0:22:25.560 --> 0:22:27.680
<v Speaker 1>but it looks like he's got it, so shout out

0:22:27.720 --> 0:22:31.600
<v Speaker 1>to him. And then just watching what the offense kind

0:22:31.640 --> 0:22:33.719
<v Speaker 1>of looked like. You know, Um, I saw a lot

0:22:33.800 --> 0:22:36.480
<v Speaker 1>of jet sweeps yesterday, a lot of wide receiver action,

0:22:36.560 --> 0:22:39.520
<v Speaker 1>a lot of motion in the backfield. Saw Tony Pollard

0:22:39.920 --> 0:22:42.800
<v Speaker 1>split out wide and just move all over the formation,

0:22:42.920 --> 0:22:46.280
<v Speaker 1>which you know we're at we're at ground level here,

0:22:46.600 --> 0:22:49.119
<v Speaker 1>and these guys are enormous, so like, it's hard to

0:22:49.160 --> 0:22:51.679
<v Speaker 1>really see what it looks like without having that bird's

0:22:51.680 --> 0:22:53.800
<v Speaker 1>eye view, but I don't know, there's a lot of

0:22:53.800 --> 0:22:56.119
<v Speaker 1>people moving around back there, and it's exciting. I like

0:22:56.200 --> 0:23:00.520
<v Speaker 1>watching it. Well to those people, Dad to keep wondering

0:23:00.560 --> 0:23:05.000
<v Speaker 1>how Taco looks and how Tristan Hill looks when you

0:23:05.040 --> 0:23:10.200
<v Speaker 1>know what's gonna happen this season, it's not good, no boy, no,

0:23:10.280 --> 0:23:13.560
<v Speaker 1>no boy. No. Yeah, it's a little embarrassing out there,

0:23:13.800 --> 0:23:19.520
<v Speaker 1>but you're gonna still embarrassing. That was for Taco. Tristin Hill.

0:23:20.080 --> 0:23:24.440
<v Speaker 1>Obviously he's new, he's getting adjusted to everything that's going

0:23:24.480 --> 0:23:29.119
<v Speaker 1>on here. He still lacks that strength that you would

0:23:29.119 --> 0:23:31.720
<v Speaker 1>want him to have, so yes, there's room to grow,

0:23:31.800 --> 0:23:34.760
<v Speaker 1>but when you move and start talking about Taco, a

0:23:34.840 --> 0:23:38.480
<v Speaker 1>guy that is going into a third year here he

0:23:38.960 --> 0:23:42.240
<v Speaker 1>does not look good. And him going up against le Collins.

0:23:42.320 --> 0:23:44.720
<v Speaker 1>I mean, you talk about Lyle. Yes, he's a great

0:23:44.720 --> 0:23:48.359
<v Speaker 1>offensive lineman, but at the same time he makes errors.

0:23:48.800 --> 0:23:52.000
<v Speaker 1>He's not the greatest old line out there, so he

0:23:53.080 --> 0:23:56.240
<v Speaker 1>handle him easy with one arm. I take video of

0:23:56.280 --> 0:23:59.040
<v Speaker 1>every single snap at practice, Like I don't have time

0:23:59.040 --> 0:24:01.120
<v Speaker 1>to really look at at it. I mean I might

0:24:01.200 --> 0:24:03.440
<v Speaker 1>watch it once to make sure it's good, but like

0:24:03.760 --> 0:24:05.400
<v Speaker 1>I don't have time to study it, so I don't

0:24:05.440 --> 0:24:07.639
<v Speaker 1>see everything. I went back and looked at a Rep

0:24:08.160 --> 0:24:11.600
<v Speaker 1>Taco going against Lyell and he just got handled and

0:24:11.600 --> 0:24:13.920
<v Speaker 1>like towards the end of his rush, he's like, nah,

0:24:14.080 --> 0:24:16.000
<v Speaker 1>screw this, and it was like the most half hearted

0:24:16.280 --> 0:24:17.960
<v Speaker 1>you know, the Taco spin move, but it was like

0:24:18.440 --> 0:24:21.480
<v Speaker 1>twenty five percent speed. He just looked. He just looked. Honestly,

0:24:21.520 --> 0:24:24.280
<v Speaker 1>you couldn't tell that he's supposed to be a veteran.

0:24:24.560 --> 0:24:27.520
<v Speaker 1>You cannot tell him die. Far apart from what I love,

0:24:27.720 --> 0:24:30.679
<v Speaker 1>Like you take this personally, you know, you're like, damn it, Taco,

0:24:30.960 --> 0:24:33.320
<v Speaker 1>come on. But I actually noticed that a couple of

0:24:33.359 --> 0:24:35.240
<v Speaker 1>times there were a couple of rushes he had in

0:24:35.320 --> 0:24:37.159
<v Speaker 1>the one on ones where it seemed like by the

0:24:37.240 --> 0:24:39.199
<v Speaker 1>end of it he was just so exasperated because he

0:24:39.280 --> 0:24:41.200
<v Speaker 1>was just like, I have nothing to get, Like I

0:24:41.640 --> 0:24:43.720
<v Speaker 1>can't beat this guy at this point, and so he's

0:24:43.760 --> 0:24:45.359
<v Speaker 1>kind of it's almost like he just kind of gave up.

0:24:45.359 --> 0:24:47.359
<v Speaker 1>You see some guys that are like those one hundred

0:24:47.359 --> 0:24:50.680
<v Speaker 1>milk ball in our you know, full time motor type guys,

0:24:50.840 --> 0:24:52.920
<v Speaker 1>and they don't stop until the whistle blows. That wasn't

0:24:53.000 --> 0:24:54.359
<v Speaker 1>him on some of those one on one and the

0:24:54.359 --> 0:24:56.680
<v Speaker 1>hoss rush drills, and so I don't know, he's he's

0:24:56.720 --> 0:24:58.800
<v Speaker 1>got this will be a long camp. He's got some time.

0:24:58.920 --> 0:25:00.879
<v Speaker 1>But when he's got a but he's got to jump in,

0:25:00.960 --> 0:25:03.440
<v Speaker 1>he's got showing something he really does. Will has said

0:25:03.480 --> 0:25:05.840
<v Speaker 1>this before, so it's not new news, but he said

0:25:05.840 --> 0:25:08.200
<v Speaker 1>it again today where he's like, you know, Taco has

0:25:08.200 --> 0:25:10.080
<v Speaker 1>to compete just like everybody else. He's got to compete

0:25:10.119 --> 0:25:11.760
<v Speaker 1>for a roster spot. That's the whole point of this.

0:25:12.200 --> 0:25:14.760
<v Speaker 1>And I think he will, but if he doesn't, the

0:25:14.840 --> 0:25:17.359
<v Speaker 1>train will leave without him. Like we're you know this,

0:25:17.359 --> 0:25:19.360
<v Speaker 1>this thing ain't that time, This thing ain't slowing down

0:25:19.359 --> 0:25:22.160
<v Speaker 1>for anybody so that time. Yeah, and they drafted two

0:25:22.160 --> 0:25:25.840
<v Speaker 1>defensive ends. I mean they drafted Jokes and uh Joe

0:25:25.920 --> 0:25:28.239
<v Speaker 1>Jackson and got one of free agency and got one

0:25:28.359 --> 0:25:33.320
<v Speaker 1>free agency who Hyder Hyder? Yeah? Everybody sleeps on right,

0:25:33.400 --> 0:25:37.399
<v Speaker 1>but howbody sleeps on Carrie Hyder? You know? And I

0:25:37.440 --> 0:25:39.000
<v Speaker 1>know he plays tackle? And I was just like, who

0:25:39.080 --> 0:25:41.399
<v Speaker 1>you refer? Hider wears fifty one, which is like the

0:25:41.520 --> 0:25:44.440
<v Speaker 1>least sexy d N number, even like Quinn wears fifty eight.

0:25:44.480 --> 0:25:46.680
<v Speaker 1>That even kind of looks cool because the eight is

0:25:46.720 --> 0:25:51.080
<v Speaker 1>like long, Yeah, that's true, Like fifty one. You're just like,

0:25:51.320 --> 0:25:53.720
<v Speaker 1>is he alive? Shouldn't you be over there? The tackling sled,

0:25:53.760 --> 0:25:55.560
<v Speaker 1>like what are you doing here? Yeah? But I think

0:25:55.560 --> 0:25:58.200
<v Speaker 1>he could be. He's somebody to watch if he gets

0:25:58.200 --> 0:26:01.199
<v Speaker 1>to that hot boy status he'll get in the ninth Ye,

0:26:01.840 --> 0:26:07.959
<v Speaker 1>speaking of numbers, Alfred Morris is wearing twenty three. Okay, Okay,

0:26:08.040 --> 0:26:11.359
<v Speaker 1>I don't know. I guess yeah, it just looks different.

0:26:11.359 --> 0:26:13.920
<v Speaker 1>I mean, forty six is a big bulky number for him.

0:26:14.320 --> 0:26:16.480
<v Speaker 1>I bet he looks slimmer. People are gonna, you know,

0:26:16.520 --> 0:26:20.760
<v Speaker 1>he looks slimmer only because he's not that he was like,

0:26:20.840 --> 0:26:22.960
<v Speaker 1>not that he's like fat or anything, but yeah, forty

0:26:22.960 --> 0:26:26.000
<v Speaker 1>six makes you look big. Yeah he'll be like, oh,

0:26:26.000 --> 0:26:28.720
<v Speaker 1>it's pretty good. I'd like to throw some a couple

0:26:28.840 --> 0:26:30.359
<v Speaker 1>names out on offense that I wanted to get your

0:26:30.359 --> 0:26:34.199
<v Speaker 1>opinions on. Reggie Davis yesterday was popped out at me.

0:26:34.280 --> 0:26:36.159
<v Speaker 1>He's a guy that can run and he had a

0:26:36.200 --> 0:26:38.359
<v Speaker 1>really phenomenal catch down the side. I don't know if

0:26:38.359 --> 0:26:40.520
<v Speaker 1>you guys saw it running down field. Talk a little

0:26:40.520 --> 0:26:42.840
<v Speaker 1>about Reggie Davis, what you saw it during first of

0:26:42.840 --> 0:26:44.640
<v Speaker 1>all him coming to the team and what he brings

0:26:44.680 --> 0:26:47.280
<v Speaker 1>to the team, but what you saw during OTA's mini

0:26:47.320 --> 0:26:48.879
<v Speaker 1>camps and then what you're seeing out here from this

0:26:49.200 --> 0:26:52.680
<v Speaker 1>was that the one against Jordan, I don't I don't

0:26:52.680 --> 0:26:55.720
<v Speaker 1>know who you remember who the cornerback was, although Jordan did.

0:26:55.960 --> 0:26:59.119
<v Speaker 1>Jordan talked yesterday just about how much the insane amount

0:26:59.160 --> 0:27:02.880
<v Speaker 1>of speed that's this receiver corps because Guidon and John

0:27:02.960 --> 0:27:05.440
<v Speaker 1>Vay like that's why they're here. They run four to three.

0:27:05.600 --> 0:27:08.359
<v Speaker 1>Devin Smith was was a freakid Ohio State before all

0:27:08.359 --> 0:27:11.120
<v Speaker 1>the injuries. So there's a and Reggie Davis too. Um,

0:27:11.720 --> 0:27:14.359
<v Speaker 1>there's a lot of speed on this receiver. Corps and

0:27:15.080 --> 0:27:16.760
<v Speaker 1>actually what stood out it was a great catch. It

0:27:16.840 --> 0:27:19.560
<v Speaker 1>was a go route, he high pointed it, he needed

0:27:19.560 --> 0:27:21.840
<v Speaker 1>one hand to hold on to it while he got tackled.

0:27:21.880 --> 0:27:24.560
<v Speaker 1>But was more impressive than me was the one he made.

0:27:25.160 --> 0:27:28.119
<v Speaker 1>H He ran a skinny post and it wasn't a

0:27:28.160 --> 0:27:30.119
<v Speaker 1>spectacular catch. But the reason why it stood out was

0:27:30.119 --> 0:27:32.840
<v Speaker 1>because it was with the first team, which I don't

0:27:32.840 --> 0:27:34.680
<v Speaker 1>know if that was an in practice decision or well,

0:27:34.680 --> 0:27:36.560
<v Speaker 1>but I was like, Okay, Reggie Davis is getting some

0:27:36.640 --> 0:27:39.440
<v Speaker 1>run with the ones and he looked good doing it. Um,

0:27:39.440 --> 0:27:42.240
<v Speaker 1>he's he does not look like. He does not have

0:27:42.240 --> 0:27:46.280
<v Speaker 1>an NFL build. He's skinny, he's five probably five ten,

0:27:46.440 --> 0:27:50.440
<v Speaker 1>five eleven maybe, but he can run. And to answer

0:27:50.520 --> 0:27:53.240
<v Speaker 1>your question, what he did during OTAs that like once

0:27:53.240 --> 0:27:55.119
<v Speaker 1>a day you're like, holy crap, well who caught the

0:27:55.160 --> 0:27:58.080
<v Speaker 1>Oh Reggie Davis with the nice catch. So yeah, it's

0:27:58.160 --> 0:28:01.600
<v Speaker 1>something to watch. I've said this statement for fifteen years,

0:28:01.880 --> 0:28:04.800
<v Speaker 1>but it's true, and it's really true this year. These

0:28:04.840 --> 0:28:07.200
<v Speaker 1>guys are here because they can run and they can catch,

0:28:07.240 --> 0:28:09.120
<v Speaker 1>and they're gonna turn some heads and talk get talked

0:28:09.160 --> 0:28:11.800
<v Speaker 1>about because they what they they can catch. The guy

0:28:11.800 --> 0:28:13.720
<v Speaker 1>that's gonna take that leap is the one that makes

0:28:13.720 --> 0:28:16.280
<v Speaker 1>the best tackle, And that's that's always what happens with

0:28:16.320 --> 0:28:18.560
<v Speaker 1>those receivers. The guy that comes out in that first

0:28:18.600 --> 0:28:20.600
<v Speaker 1>game and goes down and blows somebody up at the

0:28:20.600 --> 0:28:22.960
<v Speaker 1>punt return, it could be guiding and you're like, you

0:28:23.000 --> 0:28:25.600
<v Speaker 1>know what, he could play special teams. That's what happened

0:28:25.600 --> 0:28:28.280
<v Speaker 1>to Sam heard. That's what those guys can do. And

0:28:28.320 --> 0:28:31.800
<v Speaker 1>they're gonna Now unless you're Reggie Davis that continues to

0:28:31.840 --> 0:28:34.920
<v Speaker 1>make these plays with the first team, Now you jump

0:28:34.960 --> 0:28:37.080
<v Speaker 1>into this category like I can help as a receiver.

0:28:37.520 --> 0:28:39.560
<v Speaker 1>But if they're gonna try to figure out the best

0:28:39.560 --> 0:28:43.120
<v Speaker 1>guys in this group down here, the special team's contributor

0:28:43.160 --> 0:28:45.280
<v Speaker 1>is going to rise to the front. Pretty fun moment

0:28:45.320 --> 0:28:49.360
<v Speaker 1>to speaking of just high end speed. John Vay Johnson

0:28:49.400 --> 0:28:52.280
<v Speaker 1>had a long touchdown and like it wasn't even hard.

0:28:52.480 --> 0:28:55.240
<v Speaker 1>That's how many yards behind Chris Wester he was. I

0:28:55.280 --> 0:28:59.600
<v Speaker 1>mean it was he burned him and Chris Richard. After

0:28:59.640 --> 0:29:01.760
<v Speaker 1>it was over, like he pointed at Westrey and pointed

0:29:01.760 --> 0:29:05.360
<v Speaker 1>at the sideline. He was like, ah, like that's no sir. Yeah,

0:29:05.400 --> 0:29:07.440
<v Speaker 1>you're gonna have to watch a reppertwo after that one.

0:29:08.040 --> 0:29:11.560
<v Speaker 1>So these guys have some speed. That's that guys, It's

0:29:11.560 --> 0:29:14.280
<v Speaker 1>gonna be an uphill battle for him. How does that

0:29:14.320 --> 0:29:17.280
<v Speaker 1>affect a guy like Tavon Austin who his calling card

0:29:17.320 --> 0:29:19.080
<v Speaker 1>to speed. But you look at the Avon had a

0:29:19.080 --> 0:29:21.520
<v Speaker 1>long catch yesterday too. I know that. But my point

0:29:21.600 --> 0:29:24.360
<v Speaker 1>is why you last year, the reason why I thought

0:29:24.360 --> 0:29:26.600
<v Speaker 1>Tavon was important to this team is because he added

0:29:26.600 --> 0:29:28.360
<v Speaker 1>an element of speed that maybe they didn't have from

0:29:28.360 --> 0:29:30.360
<v Speaker 1>a lot of guys. You're talking about the fact that

0:29:30.400 --> 0:29:32.200
<v Speaker 1>there's a ton of guys right now that are young

0:29:32.600 --> 0:29:34.840
<v Speaker 1>that also have that kind of speed. Does how does

0:29:34.840 --> 0:29:37.400
<v Speaker 1>that affect Tavon now not being the only guy with

0:29:37.440 --> 0:29:41.440
<v Speaker 1>that kind of blazing blaze had a punt return as well,

0:29:41.520 --> 0:29:43.640
<v Speaker 1>And I think if you continues to run the way

0:29:43.680 --> 0:29:46.640
<v Speaker 1>he did on that one punt return, I mean there's

0:29:46.680 --> 0:29:49.280
<v Speaker 1>there's different kinds of speed. We've seen guys that are

0:29:49.280 --> 0:29:52.440
<v Speaker 1>clocked that could run a Randall Williams or somebody like that.

0:29:52.880 --> 0:29:56.640
<v Speaker 1>But but Terry Glenn it had an aggressive speed speed

0:29:56.880 --> 0:29:59.720
<v Speaker 1>on the field and and Tavon has that kind of speed.

0:30:00.040 --> 0:30:02.760
<v Speaker 1>So all these other guys, Devin Smith and John Vay, Yeah,

0:30:02.760 --> 0:30:05.040
<v Speaker 1>that They've proven they can run well, but can they

0:30:05.120 --> 0:30:07.440
<v Speaker 1>run well in the middle of crowd and do those

0:30:07.520 --> 0:30:09.360
<v Speaker 1>kind of things that Tavon has proven to do in

0:30:09.400 --> 0:30:11.920
<v Speaker 1>his career he needs to do on a consistent basis

0:30:11.920 --> 0:30:15.320
<v Speaker 1>for this team though. Yeah, well really, to elaborate, I

0:30:15.360 --> 0:30:17.840
<v Speaker 1>was talking about the motions and all that stuff. We

0:30:17.880 --> 0:30:21.959
<v Speaker 1>saw Cedric Wilson, we saw John Vay, Tavon did some

0:30:22.040 --> 0:30:24.160
<v Speaker 1>things like there are a lot of guys with speed

0:30:24.200 --> 0:30:27.400
<v Speaker 1>and so, you know, even we joked yesterday like Jordan

0:30:27.520 --> 0:30:28.920
<v Speaker 1>Lewis had to do a lot of that stuff when

0:30:28.960 --> 0:30:31.040
<v Speaker 1>Tavon got hurt last year, Like, I don't think that's

0:30:31.040 --> 0:30:34.040
<v Speaker 1>the case, and hopefully calam Moore will be more willing

0:30:34.080 --> 0:30:37.000
<v Speaker 1>to use guys like that. So it's you know, I

0:30:37.040 --> 0:30:39.480
<v Speaker 1>think Tavon probably makes this team, but you can't say

0:30:39.520 --> 0:30:41.239
<v Speaker 1>that with any certainty because I do think there are

0:30:41.280 --> 0:30:42.880
<v Speaker 1>a few guys on this team that can kind of

0:30:42.880 --> 0:30:45.000
<v Speaker 1>replicate what he does. It's just amazing to me, as

0:30:45.040 --> 0:30:47.640
<v Speaker 1>we talk about all these different positions each day, just

0:30:47.760 --> 0:30:50.320
<v Speaker 1>how much depth the Cowboys have this year that that

0:30:50.520 --> 0:30:54.240
<v Speaker 1>just didn't seem to be there in this amount last year.

0:30:54.360 --> 0:30:56.360
<v Speaker 1>And again this is all very early on. We will

0:30:56.400 --> 0:30:57.800
<v Speaker 1>find out a lot more. We got to see that,

0:30:58.360 --> 0:31:00.760
<v Speaker 1>like I've made that mistake before where I'm like, there's

0:31:00.760 --> 0:31:03.200
<v Speaker 1>so many great guys out here when they're practicing against

0:31:03.200 --> 0:31:05.720
<v Speaker 1>each other. You got to see that translate to preseason

0:31:05.760 --> 0:31:07.720
<v Speaker 1>games too. But even just looking at and the reason

0:31:07.760 --> 0:31:09.479
<v Speaker 1>why I said it like I said it is because

0:31:09.760 --> 0:31:12.080
<v Speaker 1>you know, we've seen teams where you'll have these you

0:31:12.120 --> 0:31:14.920
<v Speaker 1>may have one guy like a Amari Cooper and then

0:31:14.960 --> 0:31:16.360
<v Speaker 1>all the rest of the guys are the guys like

0:31:16.400 --> 0:31:18.120
<v Speaker 1>Guy eating in that you're trying to see something from

0:31:18.280 --> 0:31:20.600
<v Speaker 1>Like you've got three guys you already know day one

0:31:20.680 --> 0:31:23.120
<v Speaker 1>are playing and they're gonna play well, right, and then

0:31:23.160 --> 0:31:25.280
<v Speaker 1>you get to these guys it's like Scott has a

0:31:25.320 --> 0:31:28.240
<v Speaker 1>little talent, Scot has some speed. It's just we talked

0:31:28.240 --> 0:31:30.080
<v Speaker 1>about the offensive line. It's the same thing. You already

0:31:30.120 --> 0:31:32.000
<v Speaker 1>have your starters, but then you get beyond that and

0:31:32.040 --> 0:31:34.800
<v Speaker 1>you're like, oh my god, these other guys can actually play.

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<v Speaker 1>I just think right now, you look the depth overall,

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<v Speaker 1>Cowboys are looking really really good from a depth standpoint,

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<v Speaker 1>Looks like our final break. When we come back, we're

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<v Speaker 1>That might be an area that's a little different. Depths

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<v Speaker 1>Today Back to the break Welcome back the final segment

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<v Speaker 1>of the break Lick of Hot Star California. The players

0:34:33.280 --> 0:34:35.840
<v Speaker 1>are starting to take the field out here for the

0:34:35.920 --> 0:34:38.000
<v Speaker 1>morning practice. It is the only practice of the day.

0:34:38.000 --> 0:34:40.000
<v Speaker 1>They'll have a walk through this afternoon and tomorrow will

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<v Speaker 1>be a day off for them so they can kind

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<v Speaker 1>of get their legs back under them after a couple

0:34:44.160 --> 0:34:47.040
<v Speaker 1>of days and pass Sizzler day? Is that what it is?

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<v Speaker 1>First off day off training camp? All right, you're welcome

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<v Speaker 1>to come. Thank you. I never get the invite. That's awesome.

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<v Speaker 1>The boss never gets the invite, no problem, so I

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<v Speaker 1>appreciate that. All right, let's talk about the tight end position. Yeah,

0:35:01.800 --> 0:35:04.520
<v Speaker 1>you wouldn't like it anyway. Really, Okay, let's talk about

0:35:04.520 --> 0:35:08.120
<v Speaker 1>the tight end position. I guess let's start. I want

0:35:08.120 --> 0:35:10.120
<v Speaker 1>to start by giving you, you guys, an opportunity just

0:35:10.200 --> 0:35:12.520
<v Speaker 1>to give me kind of your general observations of the

0:35:12.520 --> 0:35:15.640
<v Speaker 1>tight end position, because it is, as as I mentioned

0:35:15.640 --> 0:35:17.759
<v Speaker 1>a little earlier, there are a lot of positions where

0:35:17.760 --> 0:35:19.239
<v Speaker 1>you look at the depth and you're like, man, they

0:35:19.320 --> 0:35:21.200
<v Speaker 1>got a lot of talent here. I think the tight

0:35:21.280 --> 0:35:23.719
<v Speaker 1>end position is one of the positions where they're probably

0:35:23.960 --> 0:35:27.759
<v Speaker 1>just as many questions as answers. So just give me

0:35:27.800 --> 0:35:30.000
<v Speaker 1>your overall view of kind of where the cowboys sit

0:35:30.120 --> 0:35:33.280
<v Speaker 1>here heading into training camp at the tight end position. Nicholas,

0:35:33.280 --> 0:35:34.640
<v Speaker 1>start with you. They have a Hall of Fame tight

0:35:34.760 --> 0:35:36.600
<v Speaker 1>end that they need to figure out if he's still

0:35:36.600 --> 0:35:38.200
<v Speaker 1>a Hall of Famer, and if he's not, then it

0:35:38.320 --> 0:35:40.600
<v Speaker 1>is Blake Jarr woodn't better, is it Jason Witten the

0:35:40.640 --> 0:35:42.560
<v Speaker 1>same guy that he used to be? And if not,

0:35:42.640 --> 0:35:46.120
<v Speaker 1>how is he is? He's still better than jar went

0:35:46.200 --> 0:35:48.480
<v Speaker 1>to get off the field at times. I mean, that's

0:35:48.480 --> 0:35:50.879
<v Speaker 1>really what it comes down to, is that can they

0:35:50.920 --> 0:35:53.760
<v Speaker 1>both play? Because before it was just one guy playing?

0:35:53.960 --> 0:35:56.319
<v Speaker 1>Now is it to the point where they both need

0:35:56.320 --> 0:35:59.560
<v Speaker 1>to kind of be out there? But everybody has something

0:35:59.600 --> 0:36:03.000
<v Speaker 1>to prove? Everybody in that group. Charltz, can you can

0:36:03.040 --> 0:36:06.200
<v Speaker 1>you be a factor? Rico? Can you do stuff? I mean,

0:36:06.280 --> 0:36:08.600
<v Speaker 1>can you be a blocker? Now? Rico? Are you better

0:36:08.680 --> 0:36:11.040
<v Speaker 1>than Witten? Whitten? Do you still have it? They all

0:36:11.040 --> 0:36:13.680
<v Speaker 1>have questions. I think he still does. Yeah, I think

0:36:13.680 --> 0:36:18.279
<v Speaker 1>he still has it. I feel that right now. And

0:36:18.640 --> 0:36:22.120
<v Speaker 1>I was hesitant of him coming back. I was like, Okay,

0:36:22.360 --> 0:36:25.880
<v Speaker 1>how is it gonna come down to? You know, he

0:36:26.320 --> 0:36:28.960
<v Speaker 1>when he was here, to me, he seemed like his

0:36:29.200 --> 0:36:32.080
<v Speaker 1>game was getting slower. He just seemed a little slower

0:36:32.120 --> 0:36:35.440
<v Speaker 1>and not as fast. Not that he was ever super fast,

0:36:35.480 --> 0:36:38.719
<v Speaker 1>but you know what I mean, Now what I've seen

0:36:38.840 --> 0:36:42.160
<v Speaker 1>from him, to me, he looks better than what he

0:36:42.280 --> 0:36:45.919
<v Speaker 1>looked like two years ago. Really, I feel like when

0:36:45.920 --> 0:36:49.520
<v Speaker 1>he moves around again, we haven't seen a whole ton yet,

0:36:49.840 --> 0:36:52.640
<v Speaker 1>but he moving around the field and running around catching

0:36:52.640 --> 0:36:55.160
<v Speaker 1>the ball. I feel that his mobility, he just looks

0:36:55.239 --> 0:36:57.520
<v Speaker 1>better than two years ago. He's got more pepp and

0:36:57.600 --> 0:36:59.719
<v Speaker 1>his step, to be sure, And that makes sense when

0:36:59.719 --> 0:37:01.200
<v Speaker 1>you think about it. I mean, he took a year

0:37:01.280 --> 0:37:05.440
<v Speaker 1>off from getting in that stance sixty times a day

0:37:05.480 --> 0:37:08.560
<v Speaker 1>and getting beat to hell every Sunday and all that

0:37:08.600 --> 0:37:10.759
<v Speaker 1>stuffs and guys leaning on it. Yeah, and if I

0:37:10.760 --> 0:37:13.200
<v Speaker 1>had to guess, he probably still took really good care

0:37:13.200 --> 0:37:15.040
<v Speaker 1>of himself even when he was a broadcast. You know,

0:37:15.080 --> 0:37:16.960
<v Speaker 1>I don't know if he's on Tom Brady's level, but

0:37:17.040 --> 0:37:20.000
<v Speaker 1>he definitely you know, I think somebody did a behind

0:37:20.000 --> 0:37:22.239
<v Speaker 1>the scenes thing on kind of his routine, like you know,

0:37:22.320 --> 0:37:25.279
<v Speaker 1>hours of stretching and a massage every day. And you know,

0:37:25.560 --> 0:37:28.000
<v Speaker 1>it's not just like hashtag blessed, Like you got to

0:37:28.040 --> 0:37:31.799
<v Speaker 1>put hours in into it to still function that well

0:37:31.880 --> 0:37:33.719
<v Speaker 1>at that age after this many years of taking that

0:37:33.800 --> 0:37:35.799
<v Speaker 1>kind of beating, and I think a year off might

0:37:35.800 --> 0:37:37.640
<v Speaker 1>have been good for his overall legs. It'll be interesting

0:37:37.680 --> 0:37:41.279
<v Speaker 1>to see how that holds up. You know, I just

0:37:41.320 --> 0:37:43.520
<v Speaker 1>look at it and I just you know, no offense

0:37:43.560 --> 0:37:46.680
<v Speaker 1>to Wit. It's like a holding pattern. You know, Jason

0:37:46.719 --> 0:37:49.360
<v Speaker 1>garrettson a contractor year, Jason Witten wanted to come back.

0:37:49.640 --> 0:37:51.640
<v Speaker 1>I think they worked well for each other, like, hey,

0:37:51.680 --> 0:37:54.040
<v Speaker 1>you can help me, I can help you. Let's go

0:37:54.120 --> 0:37:58.479
<v Speaker 1>try to accomplish this thing together and we'll worry about

0:37:58.520 --> 0:38:02.120
<v Speaker 1>the future of the position later. I didn't. I did

0:38:02.160 --> 0:38:05.000
<v Speaker 1>not know Blake Jarwin had the athleticism to jump over

0:38:05.120 --> 0:38:07.279
<v Speaker 1>an entire jugs machine that was on top of a

0:38:07.320 --> 0:38:10.000
<v Speaker 1>golf cart by the way. They just kind of popped

0:38:10.080 --> 0:38:12.520
<v Speaker 1>up for him because he was running full speed, caught

0:38:12.520 --> 0:38:14.400
<v Speaker 1>a pass and then looked up and there's a jug machine.

0:38:14.440 --> 0:38:16.600
<v Speaker 1>He's got to so negotiate that. You know, you don't

0:38:17.480 --> 0:38:19.640
<v Speaker 1>unless it's like Jimmy Graham, who we all know used

0:38:19.680 --> 0:38:21.560
<v Speaker 1>to play basketball, Like, you don't think of tight ends

0:38:21.560 --> 0:38:24.480
<v Speaker 1>as being like super freak guys like that. But that

0:38:24.560 --> 0:38:27.640
<v Speaker 1>was impressive. So I'm interested to see where Jarwin is.

0:38:27.800 --> 0:38:31.120
<v Speaker 1>Maybe he really can push for playing time, like significant

0:38:31.160 --> 0:38:34.040
<v Speaker 1>playing time. I'm not I'm not ready to say that yet,

0:38:34.120 --> 0:38:36.760
<v Speaker 1>just because I know who Witten is and what he's about.

0:38:38.320 --> 0:38:40.719
<v Speaker 1>So I'm I'm still kind of waiting to see, do

0:38:40.800 --> 0:38:42.719
<v Speaker 1>you guys think there's a chance that he could possibly.

0:38:42.960 --> 0:38:44.600
<v Speaker 1>I don't think he'll be the starter because I think

0:38:44.600 --> 0:38:47.759
<v Speaker 1>that they value making the veteran, the guy that runs

0:38:47.800 --> 0:38:50.319
<v Speaker 1>out of the tunnel as the starter. But do you

0:38:50.360 --> 0:38:53.200
<v Speaker 1>think there's an opportunity for Blake Jarwin here being the

0:38:53.239 --> 0:38:54.839
<v Speaker 1>more athletic of the two. And I don't think I'm

0:38:54.880 --> 0:38:57.000
<v Speaker 1>speaking out of turn by saying that for him to

0:38:57.040 --> 0:38:59.880
<v Speaker 1>be the primary tight end at some point throughout the season.

0:39:00.239 --> 0:39:03.160
<v Speaker 1>I don't think he'll ever be like the primary primary

0:39:03.200 --> 0:39:05.600
<v Speaker 1>tight end. But even just in the four days we've

0:39:05.600 --> 0:39:08.279
<v Speaker 1>been here, we know this team's not afraid to use

0:39:08.360 --> 0:39:12.279
<v Speaker 1>twelve personnel. Hopefully they're afraid to use thirteen personnel, but

0:39:12.440 --> 0:39:16.640
<v Speaker 1>maybe not why because it never works. It never works.

0:39:16.760 --> 0:39:18.960
<v Speaker 1>Maybe it'll work now that they have another tight end

0:39:19.000 --> 0:39:21.000
<v Speaker 1>who can do it. But like every time they do

0:39:21.040 --> 0:39:22.759
<v Speaker 1>thirteen personnel, it's like, Okay, this is gonna be a

0:39:22.840 --> 0:39:26.360
<v Speaker 1>run for like a yard every time, every single time. Anyway,

0:39:27.000 --> 0:39:29.400
<v Speaker 1>every time they call twelve, it's always Blake Like. It

0:39:29.520 --> 0:39:32.160
<v Speaker 1>certainly seems so far that there is a clear two,

0:39:32.400 --> 0:39:36.640
<v Speaker 1>and then Schultz and Rico are significantly behind Whitten and Jarwin.

0:39:36.960 --> 0:39:40.560
<v Speaker 1>So I think maybe he can get significant snaps in

0:39:40.680 --> 0:39:42.960
<v Speaker 1>multiple tight end sets and stuff like that and have

0:39:43.000 --> 0:39:46.560
<v Speaker 1>a real role. But I'd be surprised if he's ever

0:39:46.760 --> 0:39:49.680
<v Speaker 1>the guy in every formation. What I think you might

0:39:49.719 --> 0:39:51.759
<v Speaker 1>see is when they get down by the goal line,

0:39:51.800 --> 0:39:55.080
<v Speaker 1>I think he might be a better option because of

0:39:55.160 --> 0:39:58.279
<v Speaker 1>his athleticism. He might be a better option down there

0:39:58.320 --> 0:40:03.120
<v Speaker 1>because Witt is a better blocker. I don't know that yet.

0:40:03.200 --> 0:40:06.440
<v Speaker 1>I know he's been a pretty good blocker, but you know, Jarwin,

0:40:06.520 --> 0:40:08.279
<v Speaker 1>that's an area that all young tight ends have to

0:40:08.280 --> 0:40:10.440
<v Speaker 1>get better at it. So it might be a situation

0:40:10.520 --> 0:40:13.759
<v Speaker 1>where Witten plays more and he has one touchdown and

0:40:13.840 --> 0:40:16.879
<v Speaker 1>w and Jarwin has four for five because he's getting

0:40:16.920 --> 0:40:19.000
<v Speaker 1>a little bit more opportunities down there. He's maybe more

0:40:19.040 --> 0:40:21.759
<v Speaker 1>of a jump and ball type of guy than, you know,

0:40:22.200 --> 0:40:24.520
<v Speaker 1>than Witten. What do you think that Schultz had to

0:40:24.560 --> 0:40:26.440
<v Speaker 1>get better coming out of his rookie year? What do

0:40:26.440 --> 0:40:27.960
<v Speaker 1>you think there was the area he had to get

0:40:28.000 --> 0:40:30.480
<v Speaker 1>he had improven most in order to be a viable

0:40:30.480 --> 0:40:34.080
<v Speaker 1>tight end for the team? Drink strength, Yeah, bulk and strength.

0:40:34.320 --> 0:40:37.239
<v Speaker 1>Do you see any of that? I haven't seen enough.

0:40:37.400 --> 0:40:40.720
<v Speaker 1>I mean one padded practice and I honestly don't remember

0:40:40.840 --> 0:40:43.720
<v Speaker 1>even watching him yesterday, and I was talking more about

0:40:43.719 --> 0:40:46.400
<v Speaker 1>just his physical appearance because I know for Connor, we

0:40:46.480 --> 0:40:48.040
<v Speaker 1>saw him the first time we saw him coming out

0:40:48.080 --> 0:40:50.000
<v Speaker 1>of the offseason program. We were like, oh wow, he's

0:40:50.040 --> 0:40:52.480
<v Speaker 1>put on weight, he's bulked up. He looks the part.

0:40:52.520 --> 0:40:54.480
<v Speaker 1>At this point, I'll get back to you. I'll you

0:40:54.520 --> 0:40:56.200
<v Speaker 1>know that's on my brain. Now I'll take a look

0:40:56.200 --> 0:40:58.319
<v Speaker 1>at him. Well. Aside from physical stuff, I think he

0:40:58.400 --> 0:41:02.040
<v Speaker 1>still needs to get better his reaction and his instincts,

0:41:02.040 --> 0:41:06.359
<v Speaker 1>just reacting a lot faster than what he does right now.

0:41:06.560 --> 0:41:09.640
<v Speaker 1>And we'll see second year coming in. But last year

0:41:09.680 --> 0:41:13.000
<v Speaker 1>I didn't feel that he had that quiet Yeah, and

0:41:13.040 --> 0:41:16.000
<v Speaker 1>that's okay. He was a rookie, but it takes time

0:41:16.080 --> 0:41:18.759
<v Speaker 1>to learn how to react and how to move at

0:41:18.760 --> 0:41:20.920
<v Speaker 1>a certain time. What do you guys, do you guys

0:41:20.960 --> 0:41:22.919
<v Speaker 1>think the Cowboys will get anything out of the Rico

0:41:22.960 --> 0:41:26.400
<v Speaker 1>experien experiment at this point, Well, based on where we are,

0:41:26.440 --> 0:41:28.120
<v Speaker 1>on what you've seen at this point. First day of

0:41:28.360 --> 0:41:32.440
<v Speaker 1>first day of pads, he dropped a slant that got intercepted. So, um,

0:41:32.480 --> 0:41:35.160
<v Speaker 1>that's not a great start, you know, same thing as Taco.

0:41:35.200 --> 0:41:40.640
<v Speaker 1>It's early, But no, I I'm surprised. It's still ongoing,

0:41:40.840 --> 0:41:43.799
<v Speaker 1>to be honest with you, and I think I've said

0:41:43.800 --> 0:41:45.680
<v Speaker 1>I think this is the year it ends for two years,

0:41:46.360 --> 0:41:48.120
<v Speaker 1>but I do think this is the year that it ends.

0:41:48.200 --> 0:41:50.839
<v Speaker 1>So let's assume for a second that that Rico does

0:41:50.880 --> 0:41:53.799
<v Speaker 1>not make this team. Do you think that Cowboys, knowing

0:41:53.800 --> 0:41:56.279
<v Speaker 1>how much they like to use twelve thirteen personnel, that

0:41:56.320 --> 0:41:58.000
<v Speaker 1>they'll have to go to the well and maybe bring

0:41:58.040 --> 0:42:00.320
<v Speaker 1>in a fourth tight end or do you think that

0:42:00.520 --> 0:42:03.320
<v Speaker 1>that person's already on the team. It's a unique situation.

0:42:03.640 --> 0:42:07.560
<v Speaker 1>I think what happens in this case is I think Winten, Jarwin,

0:42:07.680 --> 0:42:11.480
<v Speaker 1>and Schultz make the team to start the year and

0:42:11.840 --> 0:42:15.759
<v Speaker 1>Rico goes to spended list for one game. Oh, I

0:42:15.800 --> 0:42:19.040
<v Speaker 1>forgot about that. But then in week two then they

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<v Speaker 1>have a decision to make and knock on wood. But

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, somebody gets banged up in week one, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>like let's say a couple two or three weeks. You

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<v Speaker 1>know that Rico's a guy, Well he comes right in,

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<v Speaker 1>and then if not, if you decide, well we don't

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<v Speaker 1>have space for him, let's cut him. You know, it's

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<v Speaker 1>it's at that point in the season where maybe other

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<v Speaker 1>teams aren't going to say, well, let's let's take a

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<v Speaker 1>shot on this guy. You know, maybe they will, maybe

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<v Speaker 1>they don't. Maybe he's back on the practice squad. If

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<v Speaker 1>he's got eligibility for it, I'm not even sure. But

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<v Speaker 1>if everyone's healthy, okay, yeah, are you wanting to keep

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<v Speaker 1>four tight ends on the roster? It's all about him

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<v Speaker 1>to me, it's all about Rico. Is Rico doing anything

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<v Speaker 1>that makes you think I just not ready to let go?

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<v Speaker 1>It's not a not a fourth tight end, it's a

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<v Speaker 1>is it nine lineman? Is it six linebackers, it's whatever.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, he's another quarterback you know, I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's what's happened before. He's he'sn't been on this

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<v Speaker 1>team because of other positions. But he's one practice he's

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<v Speaker 1>not you know, to answer me to answer your question, well,

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<v Speaker 1>he did too. But I do I want four tight ends?

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<v Speaker 1>Not really, but I think they probably do. That's and

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<v Speaker 1>I always frame my answers in regard to that, knowing

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<v Speaker 1>how much they like their team personnel. If you were

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<v Speaker 1>mentioned before, you don't necessarily, but they love it seem

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<v Speaker 1>like to do mooring stuff, So that's part of it.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know, and you think if they if they're

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<v Speaker 1>going to do that, they may one a half four

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<v Speaker 1>tight ends. But if you know, Will McClay said it

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<v Speaker 1>about Taco Charlton, the first round pick. He said, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>the train will be leaving and you're you know, if

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<v Speaker 1>you better be on it. If that's the case with

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<v Speaker 1>Taco Charlton, that's got to be the case with Rico

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<v Speaker 1>gets right. All right, guys, we appreciate you joining us.

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<v Speaker 1>Practice will be starting hearing about a couple of minutes here.

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