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Speaker 1: and got a lot to talk to you about. We

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Speaker 1: are still waiting to get more updates here on the ceasefire.

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Speaker 1: He's Net and Yahoo. The Prime Minister trying to pull

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Speaker 1: it all together here, get this done. Also, TikTok, the

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Speaker 1: CEO of TikTok is going to be attending Trump's inauguration.

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Speaker 1: I think that Trump the Showman has something up his

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Speaker 1: sleeve here, has some things in mind that will keep

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Speaker 1: TikTok online. It was kind of sad. I was looking

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Speaker 1: at some TikTok yesterday and the people, some of the

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Speaker 1: content creators were doing kind of you know, I put this,

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Speaker 1: They were doing like I'm sorry. You know, you can

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Speaker 1: have like Sarah McLaughlin music play in the background or

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Speaker 1: something like it's been great. You know, I've enjoyed being

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Speaker 1: a content creator for all of you. Is very kind

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Speaker 1: of bummed out watching this. It's like, oh man, cause

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Speaker 1: I've never seen this before. And the whole history of Facebook,

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Speaker 1: Facebook has never just said we're shutting down. Same thing

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Speaker 1: with Instagram, same thing with I mean, even Twitter when

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Speaker 1: to go offline right now on Sunday. I think it's

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Speaker 1: it's actually going to go offline entirely. We shall see.

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Speaker 1: There's some very interesting possibilities there. But Clay, it also

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Speaker 1: makes me think about what a massive realignment is occurring

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Speaker 1: worst point for press freedom and press honesty, whether we're

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Speaker 1: talking social media or the longstanding news entities like The

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Speaker 1: completely out of control. And we've seen that. I mean,

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Speaker 1: we've seen this with the Twitter files. We've seen this

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Speaker 1: with the collusion with the government that occurred to have

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Speaker 1: not only were they not supposed to be shutting people down,

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Speaker 1: they were often shutting them down for things that were true, right,

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Speaker 1: So they were using the power of censorship to suppress truthful,

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Speaker 1: why it's interesting, Clay to me that we see the

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Speaker 1: Washington Post, which went full communists under Trump's time both

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Speaker 1: in office and then under Biden. But when completely wacko

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Speaker 1: with democracy dies in darkness, you know what Trump want

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Speaker 1: and democracy's not dead. In fact, the country's doing just fine,

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Speaker 1: thank you. I'm gonna be doing a whole lot better

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Speaker 1: in the next year. Now you see this, Clay, the

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Speaker 1: new Washington Post mission, new mission statement. They've had to

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Speaker 1: change it from Democracy dies in darkness, which as a guy,

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Speaker 1: your estrogen levels rise dramatically when you just say it

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Speaker 1: out loud. Your voice gets hired. Democracy dies in darkness.

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Speaker 1: The new Washington Post mission statement is riveting storytelling for

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Speaker 1: all of America. Wow, you mean there's going to be

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Speaker 1: think that this is actually gonna take Is it gonna hold? Clay?

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Speaker 2: Well, first of all, this is anytime you have one

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Speaker 1: That's the mission statement.

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Speaker 2: If they actually follow through, then credit to Jeff Bezos

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Speaker 2: Democracy Dies in Darkness?

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Speaker 1: Is it going to come off the masthead? Is that official?

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Speaker 2: Because I can imagine that the Washington Post reporters will

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Speaker 2: but Diet Coke made a special inauguration Diet Coke honorarium

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Speaker 2: We've done interviews Buck where they just keep preaking in

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Speaker 1: So we're in a totally different media environment than we

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Speaker 2: And remember all we're asking for it's just for everybody's

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Speaker 2: It's just part of his play money that he has decided.

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Speaker 2: That's the sign that your culture is rotten from the

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Speaker 1: What happened to the Washington Post had turned into a

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Speaker 2: Welcome back in Clay Travis bock Sexton Show. Appreciate all

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Speaker 2: now and buck on the TikTok front. You think that

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Speaker 1: This may be me hoping more than it is me analyzing,

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Speaker 1: Back into Clay and Buck. I just saw this before,

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Speaker 4: We will put measures in place to keep TikTok from

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Speaker 1: Now, it's interesting that there's this there's this change that's

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Speaker 5: Just thirty two percent of teenagers use this fucking Twitter x,

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Speaker 1: So, Claire, I mean, I think this stuff is really

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Speaker 2: Back in two thousand and one, you know, like he

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Speaker 2: or she said this and they need to apologize for this.

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Speaker 1: I think that there was a there was a left

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Speaker 1: wing mass hysteria in this country that really reached its

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Speaker 1: Pinnacle during COVID, but it was enabled largely by there

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Speaker 1: by the dominance the left had of online media platforms

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Speaker 1: which were just aggressively promoting some things and censoring and

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Speaker 1: destroying other things, other ideas, and it was you know,

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Speaker 1: people use the term Orwellian, but it was very Orwellian

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Speaker 1: in feel, and it was something that the demo people say, oh, Biden,

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Speaker 1: and I know people say, oh, you Geet did and

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Speaker 1: everything else. Well, there are a lot of things that

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Speaker 1: were rigged about the twenty twenty election. One of the

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Speaker 1: biggest ones, and there's no debate about this, was that

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Speaker 1: the social media platforms went all in on on electing

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Speaker 1: Donald I mean on electing Joe Biden and defeating Donald

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Speaker 1: Trump something else. I think it is interesting, and we

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Speaker 1: got a we got a VIP wrote in about this

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Speaker 1: a second ago. I'm trying to find it right now, Clay,

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Speaker 1: but I mean I remember the basics of it, and

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Speaker 1: it's these individuals, you know, you can't you can't trust them.

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Speaker 1: These here we go VIP from email from Ken. He writes,

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Speaker 1: the support MP is getting from Bezos, Zuckerberg, Coca Cola,

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Speaker 1: it's all fake. They're all still flaming leftists. The hysteria

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Speaker 1: isn't gone, it's just in remission. These people are in

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Speaker 1: survival mode and they're trying to avoid Trump's wrath. Let's

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Speaker 1: deal with this for a second, shall we. I think

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Speaker 1: this is interesting because on the one hand, I understand

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Speaker 1: the concern that somebody who has been on the right

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Speaker 1: for five minutes being elevated to a leadership position on

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Speaker 1: the right in some respect is concerning. But I also

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Speaker 1: feel like when people start to do the right thing

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Speaker 1: and say the right thing, how long do you ignore

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Speaker 1: them before you allow them to actually change their mind? Right?

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Speaker 1: So I think we can be aware of all these things.

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Speaker 1: Is for Bezos and Zuckerberg and others, is closing up

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Speaker 1: the Trump good business right now? Yes? And I think

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Speaker 1: we're aware of that. Has there been a longer term

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Speaker 1: trend of these guys realizing the madness that has occurred

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Speaker 1: with the left in the country, the anti business stuff,

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Speaker 1: the communist mindset that they have. I think that's also

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Speaker 1: the case. And to your point about Elon breaking down

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Speaker 1: the barriers, I think we are in a different I

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Speaker 1: think that it's people are more free now to be

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Speaker 1: rational than they've been in a long time, and we

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Speaker 1: don't want to shut down those pathways just because they

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Speaker 1: haven't been in the game for a long time.

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Speaker 2: Most people don't stand on principle, They stand on self interest.

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Speaker 2: So that position from the emailer is not inaccurate in

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Speaker 2: some respects, but it is a significant cultural shift that

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Speaker 2: standing on self interest now means you support more freedom

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Speaker 2: and less censorship. So I can either sit around and say, oh,

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Speaker 2: I don't trust them anymore, but at least they're making

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Speaker 2: the right choices. And this is the consequence I think

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Speaker 2: of the popular vote election and Elon leading the charge.

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Speaker 2: Let me make a historical analogy for you, Buck, the

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Speaker 2: investigation into communism, which in many ways was valid of McCarthy.

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Speaker 2: In retrospect, people say it ended when that argument, have

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Speaker 2: you no decency? That is now famous for people who

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Speaker 2: study history. I don't know that it occurred.

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Speaker 1: In that moment.

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Speaker 2: The next day on radio, I don't know that people

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Speaker 2: were like, hey, this era is over. I do think

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Speaker 2: historically there is going to be an argument that Elon

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Speaker 2: buying Twitter was the line of cultural demarcation from which

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Speaker 2: the woke era, the me too era, this America is awful.

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Speaker 2: Sixteen to nineteen Project Tear down the Washington Monument rename

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Speaker 2: Washington DC BLM is justified in burning down all of

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Speaker 2: these police stations. I do think the line of cultural demarcation,

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Speaker 2: this is my prediction years into the future, may well

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Speaker 2: look to historians there because remember what Elon said. He's

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Speaker 2: made a lot of money. He said he wasn't buying

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Speaker 2: Twitter to try to make a ton of money. Now

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Speaker 2: he still may make money off of Twitter, but he

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Speaker 2: said he was doing it to save free speech in

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Speaker 2: the country, and that if he had to lose money

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Speaker 2: as a consequence, that he was willing to do so

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Speaker 2: because he's making money so many other places. And now

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Speaker 2: it is in the self interest of the Zuckerbergs and

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Speaker 2: the Elons and the Zuckerbergs and the Bezos is to

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Speaker 2: follow in the footsteps of Elon. But that doesn't mean

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Speaker 2: I forgive Mark Zuckerberg for bowing down to the Biden

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Speaker 2: censorship request. Again, most of these guys don't stand on principle.

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Speaker 2: They move in the self interest of their corporations, and

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Speaker 2: Trump winning means that their self interest is now for

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Speaker 2: more free speech. All of you who voted Trump, we

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Speaker 2: should be applauded because we've made this happen. And oh,

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Speaker 2: by the way, we may have ended the war in

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Speaker 2: the Middle East too, and we may soon end the

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Speaker 2: war Europe. That's the consequence of Trump winning an election.

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Speaker 2: I think we should celebrate it as opposed to sit

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Speaker 2: around and whine about things we didn't like in the past.

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Speaker 2: But I also agree with you, Buck, just because somebody's

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Speaker 2: on your side right now doesn't mean they should be

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Speaker 2: lionized as some great principled warrior. It just means we

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Speaker 2: won some battles and now they recognize they're going to

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Speaker 2: get their ass kicked if they don't been the knee.

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Speaker 1: This is one of the failings of the right in general,

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Speaker 1: is that anytime, especially if somebody has a little bit

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Speaker 1: of celebrity sizzle, even just a little bit, and they

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Speaker 1: come out and say, you know what, I want to

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Speaker 1: be on your team. Now we're ready to elect them president,

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Speaker 1: you know, everyone needs to slow their role sometimes, Okay.

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Speaker 1: And also I think I do think it's worth remembering, well,

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Speaker 1: there have been some people who have been trying to

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Speaker 1: convince people to come over into the light of righteousness,

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Speaker 1: truth and sanity for a long time. So I don't

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Speaker 1: think that we should necessarily take what is new. The

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Speaker 1: new shiny object on the right is a is a

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Speaker 1: phenomenon that people need to calm down on a little bit.

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Speaker 2: And to your point, also, a lot of us bore

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Speaker 2: real consequences for saying what we did at times when

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Speaker 2: it was not popular to say what they did. I

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Speaker 2: ebuck your deluge when he said, hey, we got to

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Speaker 2: open the country back up by easter, which you were

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Speaker 2: one hundred percent right about. When I said, hey, we

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Speaker 2: got to play sports and open up all the schools

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Speaker 2: and went and spoke even at our school board, you

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Speaker 2: should see what I got like. It's easy to stand

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Speaker 2: on principle when people pat you on the back. It's

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Speaker 2: hard to stand on principle when the response is, go

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Speaker 2: to hell, you want everybody's grandma dead, You're an awful

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Speaker 2: human being. A lot of us actually went through those fires,

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Speaker 2: and I do think that should matter. And by the way,

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Speaker 2: I do believe in the larger marketplace of ideas. The

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Speaker 2: reason we have the biggest radio show in the country

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Speaker 2: is because I think the weighing mechanism of the public

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Speaker 2: a lot of people recognize we're right. The reason why

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Speaker 2: we've continued to build an audience all through twenty twenty

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Speaker 2: four for the election is because we were right about

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Speaker 2: a lot of that stuff too. So over time, I

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Speaker 2: believe the truth wins, and being honest and standing on principle,

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Speaker 2: even if sometimes people don't agree with you, does win.

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Speaker 2: But boy, those fires can be strong and the opposition

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Speaker 2: do it. That's what you just have to keep in mind,

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Speaker 2: and I would encourage you guys to support people who

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Speaker 2: Welcome back in Clay Travis buck Sexton Show. Appreciate all

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Speaker 2: of you hanging out with us.

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Speaker 1: Buck.

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Speaker 2: I know a lot of our listener up in Milwaukee

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Speaker 2: are mourning a bit today and certainly all over the

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Speaker 2: nation as well. Ninety year old Bob Yuker, who was

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Speaker 2: the voice of the Milwaukee Brewers, memorably starred in Major League,

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Speaker 2: which I think may well be the funniest sports movie

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Speaker 2: that has ever been made. Has passed away today. Buck,

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Speaker 2: I think you got the team wrong on this show,

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Speaker 2: much to your brother's chagrin. The Cleveland Indians was that

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Speaker 2: franchise back in the day. But we pulled a couple

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Speaker 2: of clips. I had the team pull a couple of

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Speaker 2: clips of Bob Yuker to memorialize him. And I know

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Speaker 2: again many of you in the state of Wisconsin, but

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Speaker 2: everywhere here is probably the most famous line if you

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Speaker 2: remember the awful Cleveland Indians franchise in that year. He

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Speaker 2: was the radio announcer and the pitches would be awful,

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Speaker 2: but in the words of Bob Uker, they were always

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Speaker 2: just a bit outside. Listen to cut twenty seven on.

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Speaker 1: Into the line up. In his first offering, Jos the

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Speaker 1: bit outside. He tried the corner in mist.

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Speaker 6: All four, all eight, Loanva has walked the bases loaded

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Speaker 6: on twelve straight pitches.

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Speaker 1: Boy, how can these guys lay off pitches that close?

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Speaker 1: I mean, what was wild time?

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Speaker 5: Right?

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Speaker 1: Right?

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Speaker 5: Oh?

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Speaker 1: He was Charlie Sheen.

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Speaker 2: Charlie Sheen throwing those pitches, Rick wild Thing Vaughn And

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Speaker 2: if you watch the video, it's even funnier. How could

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Speaker 2: these guys lay off these pitches? Pitches are nowhere near

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Speaker 2: the strike zone. He walks the bases loaded almost immediately.

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Speaker 2: Here's another one for those of you who remember. I

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Speaker 2: think it was the Miller like commercials back in the day.

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Speaker 2: He would sit in the upper deck, Buck and talk

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Speaker 2: about the fact that he was in the front row.

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Speaker 1: Listen to this.

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Speaker 6: You don't learn the best things about being an X

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Speaker 6: big leaguers getting previous to the game, call the front

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Speaker 6: office bingo. And once these fans recognized me, I probably

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Speaker 6: won't even have to pay for my life care from Diller.

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Speaker 6: I love him these fans.

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Speaker 4: No.

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Speaker 6: I drink life because it's less filling and it tastes great.

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Speaker 6: Good seat, sir, I'm in a wrong shape, buddy.

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Speaker 1: Come on, oh, I almost be in the front row

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Speaker 1: like beer from Miller. Everything you always wanted in a

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Speaker 1: beer unless.

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Speaker 2: Let's seets.

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Speaker 6: Hey, buddy, he missed a tack.

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Speaker 1: He missed attack.

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Speaker 2: Just an amazing guy, Buck, And I know you love

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Speaker 2: Major League If your kids haven't watched it, and they

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Speaker 2: get to be thirteen or fourteen years old. It's a

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Speaker 2: great movie from the eighties to go back and watch

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Speaker 2: with him. But rest in peace, Bob Ucker. We know

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Speaker 2: a lot of people all over the country are going

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Speaker 2: to miss him. He's one of the true legends.

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Speaker 1: Of his era. What are you gonna take us into

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Speaker 1: third hour, mister Clay?

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Speaker 2: Do you remember ESPN didn't cover the national anthem and

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Speaker 2: the moment of silence before the Sugar Bowl. After the

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Speaker 2: terror attack, one of their top executives has weighed in

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Speaker 2: and he's apologizing to the nation.