1 00:00:01,240 --> 00:00:05,280 Speaker 1: Welcome into the Lounge presented by DraftKings. We've taken a 2 00:00:05,280 --> 00:00:08,280 Speaker 1: look at the film, we've heard from John Harball on Monday. 3 00:00:08,640 --> 00:00:11,400 Speaker 1: Now it's time to break down with a little bit 4 00:00:11,440 --> 00:00:14,840 Speaker 1: more nuanced in depth the Ravens twenty seven to twenty 5 00:00:14,840 --> 00:00:18,520 Speaker 1: four victory over the Cincinnati Bengals. And let's start with 6 00:00:18,520 --> 00:00:21,919 Speaker 1: the news, Garrett. We heard from head coach John Harball 7 00:00:21,960 --> 00:00:25,079 Speaker 1: on Monday had some injury updates, the biggest of which 8 00:00:25,239 --> 00:00:29,800 Speaker 1: Marcus Williams will not be having surgery on his pectoral injury, 9 00:00:29,960 --> 00:00:33,360 Speaker 1: which means he should return. The game plan is for 10 00:00:33,440 --> 00:00:35,080 Speaker 1: him to return this season. They're not putting him on 11 00:00:35,120 --> 00:00:37,920 Speaker 1: IR so they're expecting him back. Just how big a 12 00:00:37,960 --> 00:00:38,960 Speaker 1: deal is that for the Ravens. 13 00:00:39,120 --> 00:00:41,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's huge. I mean, Marcus Williams is one of 14 00:00:41,920 --> 00:00:43,720 Speaker 2: the highest paid players on this team for a reason. 15 00:00:44,280 --> 00:00:47,279 Speaker 2: He's a difference maker on the back und of the defense. Now, 16 00:00:47,320 --> 00:00:50,720 Speaker 2: I will say that Gino Stone, you know, was one 17 00:00:50,760 --> 00:00:53,240 Speaker 2: of the best defensive players on the field on Sunday 18 00:00:53,240 --> 00:00:55,440 Speaker 2: for the Ravens. So he stepped in to that role 19 00:00:55,440 --> 00:00:58,120 Speaker 2: that Marcus Williams players and did an incredible job at it. 20 00:00:58,160 --> 00:01:01,360 Speaker 2: So I think that you you want Marcus Williams on 21 00:01:01,400 --> 00:01:03,960 Speaker 2: the field, but I think that you know, Genostone is 22 00:01:04,000 --> 00:01:06,200 Speaker 2: more than up to the challenge if the Ravens have 23 00:01:06,280 --> 00:01:08,560 Speaker 2: to call on him for several games. The question is like, 24 00:01:08,800 --> 00:01:11,160 Speaker 2: how long is Marcus Williams going to be out because 25 00:01:11,160 --> 00:01:14,000 Speaker 2: the fact that they're not putting him on IR. If 26 00:01:14,000 --> 00:01:16,800 Speaker 2: he goes on IR, he's out for four games. So 27 00:01:17,360 --> 00:01:19,560 Speaker 2: I would think that if you're not putting him on IR, 28 00:01:19,680 --> 00:01:21,680 Speaker 2: you think that you could potentially get him back under 29 00:01:21,680 --> 00:01:25,600 Speaker 2: that maybe, which seems like it would be very quick 30 00:01:25,680 --> 00:01:28,640 Speaker 2: for you know, even if he's not having the surgery. 31 00:01:28,800 --> 00:01:30,680 Speaker 2: I don't know all the medical stuff going on there, 32 00:01:30,720 --> 00:01:33,160 Speaker 2: but that seems like it would be quick. But if 33 00:01:33,200 --> 00:01:34,520 Speaker 2: you knew he was going to be out at least 34 00:01:34,520 --> 00:01:36,520 Speaker 2: four games, I would think you just would have put 35 00:01:36,600 --> 00:01:39,760 Speaker 2: him on IR and then use that roster spot elsewhere. 36 00:01:40,400 --> 00:01:43,520 Speaker 3: I mean, again, I'm not a doctor. I don't know. 37 00:01:43,600 --> 00:01:45,960 Speaker 1: I mean it seems like once the swelling goes down, 38 00:01:46,000 --> 00:01:48,600 Speaker 1: he's going to play through this. Right, We've seen guys 39 00:01:48,920 --> 00:01:52,440 Speaker 1: play through kind of pectoral injuries before. Seems to be 40 00:01:53,160 --> 00:01:56,280 Speaker 1: in large part a pain tolerance thing. We both know 41 00:01:56,400 --> 00:01:58,160 Speaker 1: that Marcus Williams is a guy who with a high 42 00:01:58,240 --> 00:02:02,160 Speaker 1: pain tolerance. Yeah, you know, played played a number of 43 00:02:02,240 --> 00:02:04,880 Speaker 1: series last year after breaking his wrist. I don't think 44 00:02:04,960 --> 00:02:08,160 Speaker 1: came out of the game immediately after after whatever, you know. 45 00:02:08,680 --> 00:02:10,720 Speaker 2: I mean, I watched it. I watched it on when 46 00:02:10,720 --> 00:02:12,359 Speaker 2: this happened in the opener, I saw it, and I 47 00:02:12,440 --> 00:02:14,919 Speaker 2: saw him kind of get up and there was discomfort. 48 00:02:15,120 --> 00:02:17,000 Speaker 2: Then he played through the rest of that series, had 49 00:02:17,000 --> 00:02:19,360 Speaker 2: a pass breakup, and then of course, like it felt 50 00:02:19,360 --> 00:02:21,200 Speaker 2: like the next like four plays came right at him, 51 00:02:21,200 --> 00:02:24,000 Speaker 2: you know, and it's like no hiding out there, and 52 00:02:24,040 --> 00:02:26,320 Speaker 2: like the next few plays came right at him, and 53 00:02:26,720 --> 00:02:29,720 Speaker 2: he was able to hold up, and you know, I 54 00:02:29,720 --> 00:02:32,160 Speaker 2: think broke up a pass and made a couple of tackles. So, 55 00:02:32,280 --> 00:02:35,200 Speaker 2: like I mean, he played through it, small sample size 56 00:02:36,320 --> 00:02:39,120 Speaker 2: a little bit earlier this season, and like you mentioned, 57 00:02:39,240 --> 00:02:42,720 Speaker 2: played through the broken wrists last year. So pain tolerance 58 00:02:42,760 --> 00:02:44,320 Speaker 2: guy right, exactly so. 59 00:02:44,360 --> 00:02:47,400 Speaker 1: But obviously by not opting to have surgery means he 60 00:02:47,480 --> 00:02:51,720 Speaker 1: doesn't have to have surgery, means doesn't mean that, oh, 61 00:02:51,919 --> 00:02:56,919 Speaker 1: I probably probably doesn't mean that everything's okay, it's great, feeling, wonderful, 62 00:02:57,040 --> 00:03:00,400 Speaker 1: no injury, nothing, you know what I mean? Yeah, but 63 00:03:01,000 --> 00:03:03,440 Speaker 1: some certainly a good thing to have him back there. 64 00:03:03,600 --> 00:03:05,200 Speaker 1: I mean, the guy came up with the interception his 65 00:03:05,240 --> 00:03:06,760 Speaker 1: first game back after the broken wrists. 66 00:03:07,320 --> 00:03:09,320 Speaker 3: You know, wear a big old thing on his wrist. 67 00:03:09,680 --> 00:03:12,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, he kind of caught it with one hand basically, 68 00:03:13,000 --> 00:03:15,120 Speaker 1: So well, I mean that's really very good news. 69 00:03:15,200 --> 00:03:16,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, Like, that's a good point you bring up. Like 70 00:03:17,200 --> 00:03:19,239 Speaker 2: last year, even when he came back, like he clearly 71 00:03:19,320 --> 00:03:21,360 Speaker 2: wasn't one hundred to hundred percent because he played with 72 00:03:21,400 --> 00:03:24,200 Speaker 2: a cast on his hand the rest of the season. Now, 73 00:03:24,280 --> 00:03:26,520 Speaker 2: like it's how he had that at all times, but 74 00:03:27,200 --> 00:03:29,400 Speaker 2: he wanted to at least have that extra protection. So 75 00:03:29,600 --> 00:03:33,240 Speaker 2: like he this year, he wasn't playing with a cast 76 00:03:33,280 --> 00:03:35,400 Speaker 2: on his wrist, so like he got back to a 77 00:03:35,440 --> 00:03:39,000 Speaker 2: point a defensive back would prefer not to have be 78 00:03:39,080 --> 00:03:42,040 Speaker 2: playing with one hand back there. So anyway, I think 79 00:03:42,080 --> 00:03:45,480 Speaker 2: that's massive news for the Ravens and their secondary to 80 00:03:45,520 --> 00:03:49,240 Speaker 2: have him potentially coming back. And then you know, Marlon 81 00:03:49,320 --> 00:03:51,480 Speaker 2: Humphrey is another one who knows exactly when he'll get 82 00:03:51,520 --> 00:03:54,120 Speaker 2: back on the field for game action. But he's another 83 00:03:54,120 --> 00:03:57,560 Speaker 2: one who the Ravens did not put on IR which again, 84 00:03:57,640 --> 00:03:59,000 Speaker 2: if he went on, I r to start of the season, 85 00:03:59,040 --> 00:04:00,240 Speaker 2: he would be out the first four game game is 86 00:04:00,280 --> 00:04:03,560 Speaker 2: the fact that he didn't go on ir would suggest 87 00:04:03,680 --> 00:04:06,120 Speaker 2: that he would be back under four games, so this 88 00:04:06,160 --> 00:04:08,800 Speaker 2: week or next, you know. And then when it comes 89 00:04:08,840 --> 00:04:10,960 Speaker 2: to the other guys on the injury front, he said 90 00:04:11,000 --> 00:04:14,400 Speaker 2: that the that with Odell Beckham Junior and a Dafe Oway, 91 00:04:14,440 --> 00:04:17,080 Speaker 2: who both went down with injuries in Sunday's game, that 92 00:04:17,120 --> 00:04:20,320 Speaker 2: those were not considered to be long term season ending injuries. 93 00:04:20,360 --> 00:04:22,760 Speaker 2: So obviously that's good news. That's probably a week to 94 00:04:22,800 --> 00:04:25,200 Speaker 2: week deal, And so I mean, could they play this week? 95 00:04:25,320 --> 00:04:28,839 Speaker 1: Maybe we'll see, right, it seemed like Godell, to my 96 00:04:28,960 --> 00:04:32,720 Speaker 1: eye also kind of played after. It wasn't like there 97 00:04:32,760 --> 00:04:35,080 Speaker 1: was an ankle injury there, and he came immediately off 98 00:04:35,080 --> 00:04:38,640 Speaker 1: the field. Looking at the film, I think it's pretty 99 00:04:38,640 --> 00:04:40,120 Speaker 1: clear you can see when he kind of hurts it 100 00:04:40,160 --> 00:04:41,800 Speaker 1: and he plays through it a little bit longer, so 101 00:04:41,839 --> 00:04:45,760 Speaker 1: it doesn't seem like it's a major major injury for him. 102 00:04:46,040 --> 00:04:49,040 Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, he came back on the field in the 103 00:04:49,080 --> 00:04:53,880 Speaker 2: second half and stood on the sidelines that which street yeah, 104 00:04:53,960 --> 00:04:57,039 Speaker 2: which I think like is an indication that he's at 105 00:04:57,120 --> 00:05:00,360 Speaker 2: least able to stand on sidelines, which that's positive when 106 00:05:00,400 --> 00:05:02,680 Speaker 2: you're talking about sometimes it's fair to these injuries. And 107 00:05:02,720 --> 00:05:05,440 Speaker 2: then you know, again just to keep on keep the 108 00:05:05,480 --> 00:05:08,760 Speaker 2: ball rolling here on the injury front, like Ronnie Stanley, 109 00:05:08,760 --> 00:05:12,520 Speaker 2: Tyler Linderbaum, both of them did not practice at all 110 00:05:12,640 --> 00:05:15,880 Speaker 2: last week. We'll see if they're back on the practice field. 111 00:05:16,200 --> 00:05:18,680 Speaker 2: With all of those injuries. Basically every guy that we 112 00:05:18,800 --> 00:05:22,440 Speaker 2: just mentioned, it's in that short term, week to week, 113 00:05:22,880 --> 00:05:25,960 Speaker 2: day to day type thing, and so John Harbaugh is 114 00:05:25,960 --> 00:05:28,560 Speaker 2: not going to get into any updates on that front. 115 00:05:28,600 --> 00:05:30,360 Speaker 2: It's going to just be based on what the injury 116 00:05:30,480 --> 00:05:33,240 Speaker 2: report says and what the practice status is of those guys. 117 00:05:33,560 --> 00:05:35,080 Speaker 2: So the truth is we're probably not going to have 118 00:05:35,120 --> 00:05:37,720 Speaker 2: too much definitive information until it gets closer to game 119 00:05:37,760 --> 00:05:40,400 Speaker 2: time on any of those players. But again the. 120 00:05:40,360 --> 00:05:42,520 Speaker 1: Good news later in the week, Yeah, the good news 121 00:05:42,560 --> 00:05:44,600 Speaker 1: Wednesday is always an indicator and then you see where 122 00:05:44,680 --> 00:05:46,680 Speaker 1: if they progress totally totally. 123 00:05:47,880 --> 00:05:50,279 Speaker 2: The good news is that none of them, you know, 124 00:05:50,440 --> 00:05:54,440 Speaker 2: are considered to be long term situations at this point. 125 00:05:54,880 --> 00:05:58,560 Speaker 1: Do have some negative injury news are Darius Washington, the 126 00:05:58,600 --> 00:06:02,200 Speaker 1: slot corner. He's been really well placed on injured reserve. 127 00:06:02,600 --> 00:06:05,440 Speaker 1: The Ravens also brought Sam Mustfer up from the practice 128 00:06:05,440 --> 00:06:07,640 Speaker 1: squad to the fifty three men roster to take that 129 00:06:07,760 --> 00:06:11,440 Speaker 1: roster spot. So not good news on our Darius Garrett. 130 00:06:11,520 --> 00:06:13,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean that's disappointing. This is a guy who, 131 00:06:13,720 --> 00:06:15,560 Speaker 2: like obviously the Ravens have been hit hard, as we 132 00:06:15,640 --> 00:06:18,480 Speaker 2: just spent time talking about in the secondary with injuries, 133 00:06:19,120 --> 00:06:22,359 Speaker 2: and our Darius stepped in earn his spot, was playing 134 00:06:22,400 --> 00:06:25,960 Speaker 2: well at that slot corner. Nickel Roll and I just 135 00:06:26,160 --> 00:06:28,960 Speaker 2: really liked what we saw from him, So really disappointing 136 00:06:28,960 --> 00:06:31,560 Speaker 2: for him. Mustifer, you know, he gets called up. I 137 00:06:31,600 --> 00:06:33,960 Speaker 2: don't know if that's any indication about Linderbaum status, but 138 00:06:34,520 --> 00:06:37,920 Speaker 2: with Mustifer, they'd already used to practice squad elevations on him, 139 00:06:37,920 --> 00:06:40,560 Speaker 2: and I felt like even when he landed on the 140 00:06:40,560 --> 00:06:42,960 Speaker 2: practice squad coming out of training camp, that the Ravens 141 00:06:43,000 --> 00:06:45,479 Speaker 2: felt like he'll probably be on the fifty three at 142 00:06:45,520 --> 00:06:46,400 Speaker 2: some point this year. 143 00:06:46,760 --> 00:06:49,400 Speaker 3: That point, my prediction, my fifty three man prediction comes. 144 00:06:49,520 --> 00:06:53,360 Speaker 2: You're trying to get out, You're trying to get that revision. There. 145 00:06:53,400 --> 00:06:57,039 Speaker 2: You nailed it, Yeah, nailed it. And I guess the 146 00:06:57,040 --> 00:07:01,040 Speaker 2: other possibility here is Arthur Mulets. He's been a he's 147 00:07:01,040 --> 00:07:04,400 Speaker 2: been inactive the first two games. Veteran corner the Ravens 148 00:07:04,440 --> 00:07:06,960 Speaker 2: did keep on the fifty three. This may be his 149 00:07:06,960 --> 00:07:10,080 Speaker 2: his pathway to getting on becoming a game day activation, 150 00:07:10,760 --> 00:07:12,600 Speaker 2: uh for the Ravens and stepping into the I mean 151 00:07:12,600 --> 00:07:14,280 Speaker 2: he might be playing a lot in that nickel. 152 00:07:14,040 --> 00:07:16,120 Speaker 3: Role of the Yeah. 153 00:07:16,120 --> 00:07:18,920 Speaker 1: I mean, here's a tough, tough slot corner the Ravens signed. 154 00:07:18,920 --> 00:07:21,800 Speaker 1: He was with Pittsburgh last few years. I thought was 155 00:07:21,840 --> 00:07:24,440 Speaker 1: before his injury, having a strong training camp. I was 156 00:07:24,480 --> 00:07:27,120 Speaker 1: playing really well, especially good around the line of scrimmage, 157 00:07:27,200 --> 00:07:31,040 Speaker 1: just a very strong tackler. Could certainly see him playing 158 00:07:31,040 --> 00:07:33,000 Speaker 1: some more. But it's a it's a hit losing our Darius. 159 00:07:33,040 --> 00:07:34,840 Speaker 1: He was, like you said, he was playing well. So 160 00:07:35,360 --> 00:07:37,680 Speaker 1: that's a bummer. The hits keep coming in the secondary. 161 00:07:37,680 --> 00:07:38,960 Speaker 1: But hopefully we get Marlon back. 162 00:07:39,040 --> 00:07:41,680 Speaker 2: So yeah, it made Marcus Williams back relatively soon, you know, 163 00:07:41,760 --> 00:07:44,760 Speaker 2: so maybe maybe that's you know, you tough news with 164 00:07:44,760 --> 00:07:46,640 Speaker 2: our Darius, but maybe you get Marlin and Marcus Williams 165 00:07:46,680 --> 00:07:47,000 Speaker 2: back soon. 166 00:07:47,120 --> 00:07:49,520 Speaker 1: All right, let's move on to the film and what 167 00:07:49,560 --> 00:07:52,440 Speaker 1: we saw this week, and I'll kind of kick it off. 168 00:07:52,480 --> 00:07:55,680 Speaker 1: I mean, to me, is Lamar Jackson really looking at 169 00:07:55,720 --> 00:07:59,400 Speaker 1: his his tape. I was just so struck by how 170 00:07:59,480 --> 00:08:02,160 Speaker 1: calm and comfortable he looked. 171 00:08:02,640 --> 00:08:03,800 Speaker 3: It was really. 172 00:08:04,960 --> 00:08:08,480 Speaker 1: A very stark difference from Week one against the Texans, 173 00:08:08,520 --> 00:08:11,000 Speaker 1: when the timing when he was ready to throw did 174 00:08:11,000 --> 00:08:13,320 Speaker 1: not match, you know, when the routes were developing and 175 00:08:13,360 --> 00:08:16,360 Speaker 1: coming open, just it didn't seem in sync. 176 00:08:16,400 --> 00:08:16,560 Speaker 2: You know. 177 00:08:16,600 --> 00:08:19,680 Speaker 1: He was under a lot more pressure against the Texans 178 00:08:19,720 --> 00:08:22,160 Speaker 1: in part because that timing was not there. You know, 179 00:08:22,360 --> 00:08:25,480 Speaker 1: he and the routes were not timed up with with 180 00:08:25,520 --> 00:08:29,800 Speaker 1: where he was. That created pressure situations. He was just 181 00:08:30,760 --> 00:08:34,040 Speaker 1: I mean, it looked like he was calm, cool and 182 00:08:34,080 --> 00:08:36,680 Speaker 1: collected back there. I mean, just a walk in the park. 183 00:08:37,840 --> 00:08:41,360 Speaker 1: It was really remarkable to see just how he was 184 00:08:41,400 --> 00:08:44,400 Speaker 1: processing things and just kind of slicing and dicing the 185 00:08:44,440 --> 00:08:45,400 Speaker 1: Bengals secondary. 186 00:08:46,240 --> 00:08:51,439 Speaker 2: Yeah, I thought Lamar like command of the of the game, 187 00:08:51,559 --> 00:08:54,960 Speaker 2: of the offense was was really excellent. And that's kind 188 00:08:55,000 --> 00:08:56,760 Speaker 2: of what you're speaking to, Like, he just seemed totally 189 00:08:56,760 --> 00:09:00,920 Speaker 2: comfortable back there. He let plays develop. I just thought 190 00:09:01,000 --> 00:09:06,840 Speaker 2: like he did everything like really well. And so what 191 00:09:06,880 --> 00:09:09,240 Speaker 2: I mean by that, like he took he took the 192 00:09:09,280 --> 00:09:12,280 Speaker 2: deep shot to Zay Flowers and flew through a pretty 193 00:09:12,320 --> 00:09:14,480 Speaker 2: deep ball to Jay Flowers that Zay went up and 194 00:09:14,520 --> 00:09:17,040 Speaker 2: made a tough catch on. But like, great deep ball 195 00:09:17,120 --> 00:09:19,480 Speaker 2: to hit Zay on that play, he threw a perfect, 196 00:09:19,880 --> 00:09:23,160 Speaker 2: perfectly placed ball to Nelson Aguilar for that touchdown. 197 00:09:23,360 --> 00:09:27,360 Speaker 1: He was talking about a perfectly placed ball, perfectly Odell Beckham, 198 00:09:27,480 --> 00:09:29,120 Speaker 1: the Odell Beckham. 199 00:09:28,760 --> 00:09:30,400 Speaker 3: Throw early in the game. I know, it wasn't a 200 00:09:30,400 --> 00:09:30,760 Speaker 3: big play. 201 00:09:30,760 --> 00:09:32,520 Speaker 1: It was like a seven yard or on the sideline 202 00:09:32,559 --> 00:09:37,840 Speaker 1: opposite Hash he whips one to the sticks. I mean, 203 00:09:38,000 --> 00:09:40,800 Speaker 1: oh my gosh, yeah, it's a pick six if it's 204 00:09:40,840 --> 00:09:42,440 Speaker 1: a foot inside. 205 00:09:42,120 --> 00:09:44,440 Speaker 2: Well that yeah. It just seemed like his placement was great. 206 00:09:44,480 --> 00:09:47,240 Speaker 2: I mean the Aguilar play, like, it doesn't get any 207 00:09:47,280 --> 00:09:50,360 Speaker 2: better than that, perfectly tight spiral, great loft under it, 208 00:09:50,440 --> 00:09:51,920 Speaker 2: let his guy go up there and make a play 209 00:09:52,400 --> 00:09:54,160 Speaker 2: run under it. I just thought that was great. And 210 00:09:54,200 --> 00:09:56,600 Speaker 2: then and then when he needed to run, he was 211 00:09:56,640 --> 00:09:57,360 Speaker 2: able to do that. 212 00:09:57,559 --> 00:09:57,920 Speaker 1: So, like. 213 00:10:00,120 --> 00:10:05,360 Speaker 2: That is such a dangerous element of this offense. And 214 00:10:05,440 --> 00:10:07,080 Speaker 2: I think that, like we spent a lot of time 215 00:10:07,120 --> 00:10:09,320 Speaker 2: talking about how the call run game. It's not going 216 00:10:09,360 --> 00:10:11,360 Speaker 2: to zero, but it's gonna be a smaller piece of 217 00:10:11,400 --> 00:10:14,160 Speaker 2: the equation than it was in past years. And I 218 00:10:14,200 --> 00:10:18,120 Speaker 2: think that, Like, but the scrambling that's definitely not going away, 219 00:10:18,520 --> 00:10:22,040 Speaker 2: and his ability to scramble in some key moments. Again, 220 00:10:22,120 --> 00:10:25,120 Speaker 2: it's the command thing, like having a feel for when 221 00:10:25,120 --> 00:10:28,080 Speaker 2: a play breaks down, when to run it, when to 222 00:10:28,240 --> 00:10:30,679 Speaker 2: wait for a play to develop, and then throw it. Like, 223 00:10:30,720 --> 00:10:33,959 Speaker 2: he really showed a great control and command of all that. 224 00:10:34,440 --> 00:10:37,199 Speaker 2: So I just thought it was an excellent game from Lamar. 225 00:10:38,080 --> 00:10:39,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely. 226 00:10:39,240 --> 00:10:42,760 Speaker 1: I think it's also notable in really watching the film too, 227 00:10:42,880 --> 00:10:47,000 Speaker 1: how Todd Monkin helped keep the Bengals off balance a 228 00:10:47,040 --> 00:10:51,200 Speaker 1: lot shorter, quicker, get the ball out of Lamar's hands quicker. 229 00:10:51,600 --> 00:10:55,560 Speaker 1: So through his first two games, Lamar's average time to 230 00:10:55,679 --> 00:10:59,720 Speaker 1: throw is two point six seconds. That's almost a third 231 00:10:59,720 --> 00:11:02,440 Speaker 1: of a second, zero point three to two seconds quicker 232 00:11:02,480 --> 00:11:06,319 Speaker 1: than any other season in Lamar's career. It's pretty noticeable 233 00:11:06,320 --> 00:11:10,480 Speaker 1: difference getting yeah, getting the ball out of his hands quickly, 234 00:11:10,480 --> 00:11:12,920 Speaker 1: getting him into a rhythm. You saw some quick snap stuff. 235 00:11:12,920 --> 00:11:14,760 Speaker 1: You saw him, you know, certainly run down the clock 236 00:11:14,800 --> 00:11:17,840 Speaker 1: and all that stuff. Like just keeping the Bengals off balance. 237 00:11:17,880 --> 00:11:20,720 Speaker 1: I thought it was really and that certainly, you know, 238 00:11:20,760 --> 00:11:24,160 Speaker 1: the getting the ball out of his hands faster absolutely 239 00:11:24,200 --> 00:11:26,679 Speaker 1: helped his offensive line too against that pass rush. 240 00:11:26,880 --> 00:11:28,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, well that kind of goes to the next point, 241 00:11:28,640 --> 00:11:30,720 Speaker 2: which I think the offensive line. I don't know that 242 00:11:30,760 --> 00:11:33,800 Speaker 2: we gave them enough credit. They're down, Stanley Downlanderbaum, going 243 00:11:33,880 --> 00:11:36,480 Speaker 2: up against talented front that the Bengals have, and they 244 00:11:36,520 --> 00:11:38,800 Speaker 2: played great. Pat McCarey stepped in and played great at 245 00:11:38,880 --> 00:11:42,120 Speaker 2: left tackle. Sam Mustfer stepped in at center, played really well. 246 00:11:42,840 --> 00:11:44,400 Speaker 2: This is a kind of a stat that stood out 247 00:11:44,440 --> 00:11:47,840 Speaker 2: to me, the pressure rate that Lamar faced on Sunday 248 00:11:47,920 --> 00:11:51,480 Speaker 2: nine point three percent. It was the lowest pressure rate 249 00:11:51,679 --> 00:11:56,240 Speaker 2: of his career according to Next Gen Stats. That speaks 250 00:11:56,280 --> 00:11:58,560 Speaker 2: to getting the ball out quickly, but it also speaks 251 00:11:58,559 --> 00:12:00,360 Speaker 2: to the quality of the offensive line and the ability 252 00:12:00,400 --> 00:12:03,520 Speaker 2: to hold up against the talented defensive front. I just 253 00:12:03,520 --> 00:12:07,080 Speaker 2: think that like those guys deserve a ton of credit 254 00:12:07,120 --> 00:12:11,760 Speaker 2: Morgan Moses, Kevin Zeitdler, like John Simpson, that is, that 255 00:12:11,840 --> 00:12:14,839 Speaker 2: group deserves credit for holding up giving Lamar time to throw. 256 00:12:15,320 --> 00:12:17,960 Speaker 2: It's like no secret that any quarter like Lamar's better 257 00:12:17,960 --> 00:12:19,679 Speaker 2: when he has time to throw. That's probably the case 258 00:12:19,720 --> 00:12:21,840 Speaker 2: for any quarterback in the league. And I think that 259 00:12:21,920 --> 00:12:24,280 Speaker 2: he had confidence in those guys up front, which which 260 00:12:24,360 --> 00:12:27,480 Speaker 2: then allows you as a quarterback to have the command 261 00:12:27,520 --> 00:12:28,800 Speaker 2: that we just spent a lot of time talking about 262 00:12:28,800 --> 00:12:31,400 Speaker 2: in praising, like if you have confidence that you're not 263 00:12:31,400 --> 00:12:33,439 Speaker 2: going to be getting hit every single play, then you're 264 00:12:33,480 --> 00:12:35,480 Speaker 2: going to stand in there for that extra half second 265 00:12:35,720 --> 00:12:37,360 Speaker 2: and be able to wait for a play to develop 266 00:12:37,360 --> 00:12:39,640 Speaker 2: and then deliver the ball accurately down the field. 267 00:12:40,520 --> 00:12:42,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean absolutely that. 268 00:12:42,720 --> 00:12:46,040 Speaker 1: I thought it was particularly notable too against the blitz right, 269 00:12:46,120 --> 00:12:48,680 Speaker 1: I mean, that was something we saw week one give 270 00:12:48,720 --> 00:12:50,840 Speaker 1: the Ravens a little bit of problem. That cover zero 271 00:12:50,960 --> 00:12:53,600 Speaker 1: stuff that the Texans brought out was a little bit 272 00:12:53,640 --> 00:12:56,319 Speaker 1: of an issue. Saw the Ravens adjust to that in 273 00:12:56,360 --> 00:12:58,680 Speaker 1: week two and Lamar not only did they block it 274 00:12:58,760 --> 00:13:00,960 Speaker 1: up really well, and some of the problems in week 275 00:13:01,000 --> 00:13:03,880 Speaker 1: one where just seemed to be communication lapses, guys not 276 00:13:04,000 --> 00:13:06,920 Speaker 1: blocking the right person right or be on the same 277 00:13:07,600 --> 00:13:11,200 Speaker 1: same snap count for example, that all got cleaned up 278 00:13:11,240 --> 00:13:13,920 Speaker 1: in week two. Saw them pick up the blitzes really well. 279 00:13:14,080 --> 00:13:17,920 Speaker 1: Saw the adjustments. There's one cover zero blitz where they 280 00:13:18,000 --> 00:13:20,600 Speaker 1: brought it. They ended up dropping out a middle limacker 281 00:13:20,720 --> 00:13:24,400 Speaker 1: kind of late, but you know, they certainly showed the 282 00:13:24,400 --> 00:13:28,360 Speaker 1: cover zero and still brought extra pressure and the Dbs 283 00:13:28,360 --> 00:13:30,199 Speaker 1: were playing ten yards off. They just took an eight 284 00:13:30,320 --> 00:13:31,800 Speaker 1: yard I think it was an eight or nine yard 285 00:13:31,840 --> 00:13:34,839 Speaker 1: slant to Nelson Aguilar over the middle, Like easy, let's 286 00:13:34,840 --> 00:13:38,040 Speaker 1: just we'll take that, right, and having those quick answers 287 00:13:38,040 --> 00:13:41,199 Speaker 1: and Lamar Jackson knowing what those answers are and hitting 288 00:13:41,200 --> 00:13:45,240 Speaker 1: them that that immediately will cut that stuff out right, 289 00:13:45,840 --> 00:13:48,400 Speaker 1: So so we'll take it. You want to give us that, 290 00:13:48,559 --> 00:13:50,800 Speaker 1: we'll take eight yards on that? Cool, you know what 291 00:13:50,800 --> 00:13:55,360 Speaker 1: I mean. So I thought that was particularly notable. Mori 292 00:13:55,440 --> 00:13:59,600 Speaker 1: and Moses by the way, you know, absolutely to your point, 293 00:13:59,640 --> 00:14:03,280 Speaker 1: Pat Carry and Sam Musterfards deserve credit for stepping up 294 00:14:03,600 --> 00:14:05,880 Speaker 1: in a game where the Ravens offensive line was banged up. 295 00:14:06,360 --> 00:14:13,400 Speaker 1: But Morgan Moses is playing some ball. He's doging dog. 296 00:14:13,840 --> 00:14:17,560 Speaker 1: I mean, you don't think of Morgan Moses as a 297 00:14:17,600 --> 00:14:20,080 Speaker 1: guy that's like clobbering. 298 00:14:19,640 --> 00:14:20,280 Speaker 3: People out there. 299 00:14:20,320 --> 00:14:22,920 Speaker 1: You think, oh, he's a nice guy, gets the job done. 300 00:14:23,240 --> 00:14:25,800 Speaker 1: You know, he's physical, but like, hey, it's too nice 301 00:14:25,840 --> 00:14:26,040 Speaker 1: for that. 302 00:14:26,480 --> 00:14:29,720 Speaker 3: Morgan Moses is doganing out there. 303 00:14:30,600 --> 00:14:33,960 Speaker 1: I mean he lit up Mike Hilton on one just 304 00:14:34,040 --> 00:14:36,720 Speaker 1: kind of like said, nah, you're not gonna shoot that 305 00:14:36,760 --> 00:14:39,680 Speaker 1: gap and just leveled him, and it's not the first 306 00:14:39,680 --> 00:14:40,800 Speaker 1: time he's done it this season. 307 00:14:41,240 --> 00:14:42,880 Speaker 3: It was also interesting. 308 00:14:42,800 --> 00:14:46,080 Speaker 1: To see that the Ravens used some unbalanced line and 309 00:14:46,080 --> 00:14:48,360 Speaker 1: some creative stuff with Morgan Moses. So he moved over 310 00:14:48,440 --> 00:14:51,920 Speaker 1: on a couple of occasions to left of center, right 311 00:14:51,960 --> 00:14:58,160 Speaker 1: so Sam then I think it was John Simpson, then Morgan, 312 00:14:58,520 --> 00:15:01,720 Speaker 1: then Pat in an un balanced line. Did it twice, 313 00:15:02,000 --> 00:15:03,800 Speaker 1: one for like I think an eight or eight nine 314 00:15:03,880 --> 00:15:05,800 Speaker 1: yard game to Gus, the next one for a twenty 315 00:15:05,880 --> 00:15:08,600 Speaker 1: yard game to Gus, so some kind of and then 316 00:15:08,680 --> 00:15:11,920 Speaker 1: Zeitler would pull, would pull from right of center over 317 00:15:12,080 --> 00:15:17,520 Speaker 1: to make a block, and you had just Isaiah likely 318 00:15:17,560 --> 00:15:19,200 Speaker 1: was on the end of the line just kind of 319 00:15:19,200 --> 00:15:21,560 Speaker 1: walling off his guy. So it was really some creative 320 00:15:21,640 --> 00:15:24,480 Speaker 1: kind of wrinkles on some of the polling concepts that 321 00:15:24,480 --> 00:15:26,800 Speaker 1: we've seen in Todd Monkins offense. But I don't really 322 00:15:26,840 --> 00:15:30,200 Speaker 1: recall from last year, even Ronnie Stanley going left of 323 00:15:30,280 --> 00:15:33,680 Speaker 1: center and or not Ronnie Stanley, Morgan Moses going left 324 00:15:33,680 --> 00:15:35,440 Speaker 1: of center in an unbalanced line. 325 00:15:35,640 --> 00:15:39,880 Speaker 2: Morgan is like really like I love him and his versatility, 326 00:15:39,920 --> 00:15:41,760 Speaker 2: like he can get out in space. He's scary. On 327 00:15:41,760 --> 00:15:44,680 Speaker 2: that play where he was was Mike Hilton. Then he 328 00:15:44,760 --> 00:15:49,280 Speaker 2: decked on that on that right early drive, like he 329 00:15:49,480 --> 00:15:52,520 Speaker 2: is that is a scary man running downhill at you. 330 00:15:52,560 --> 00:15:54,320 Speaker 2: And the Ravens do like to get him out there 331 00:15:54,320 --> 00:15:57,880 Speaker 2: in space on the pulling and like use him create creatively, 332 00:15:57,920 --> 00:16:01,320 Speaker 2: Like yeah, I just I love his his versatility and 333 00:16:01,400 --> 00:16:03,400 Speaker 2: like that athleticism that he brings to this line. I 334 00:16:03,400 --> 00:16:07,160 Speaker 2: think it's I think it's it's a scary thing when 335 00:16:07,240 --> 00:16:10,000 Speaker 2: he gets out there as a lead blocker and you're 336 00:16:10,040 --> 00:16:12,480 Speaker 2: a dB or a safety or even a linebacker and 337 00:16:12,520 --> 00:16:14,840 Speaker 2: you got three hundred and thirty pounds more than Moses 338 00:16:14,880 --> 00:16:17,960 Speaker 2: running downhill at you. Good luck, good luck? 339 00:16:18,720 --> 00:16:21,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, exactly. I don't want to be that guy. 340 00:16:21,360 --> 00:16:23,480 Speaker 2: Hey, when you when you mentioned the cover zero thing, 341 00:16:23,960 --> 00:16:26,680 Speaker 2: I'm curious to get your thought on. You know, Lamar 342 00:16:26,880 --> 00:16:29,880 Speaker 2: said on that on the play the big play, the 343 00:16:29,960 --> 00:16:33,680 Speaker 2: Zay Flowers that that was a cover zero play, and 344 00:16:34,000 --> 00:16:36,200 Speaker 2: you know Zay had said earlier in the game they 345 00:16:36,280 --> 00:16:38,480 Speaker 2: they ran that look and based on what they saw, 346 00:16:38,920 --> 00:16:40,960 Speaker 2: they felt like that was going to be there for him. 347 00:16:41,200 --> 00:16:43,760 Speaker 2: And Lamar said that basically on the bench is they 348 00:16:43,800 --> 00:16:47,080 Speaker 2: as that they were looking back at some of the 349 00:16:47,120 --> 00:16:50,120 Speaker 2: film where the photos from some of those from that 350 00:16:50,200 --> 00:16:52,240 Speaker 2: earlier in the game, and they basically saw that like 351 00:16:52,680 --> 00:16:54,040 Speaker 2: it's going to be Zay one on one with the 352 00:16:54,080 --> 00:16:55,400 Speaker 2: corner and he can go up there and try to 353 00:16:55,440 --> 00:16:58,000 Speaker 2: make that play. Yeah, And I think a lot of times, 354 00:16:58,000 --> 00:16:59,800 Speaker 2: like when it comes to the cover zero stuff and 355 00:16:59,840 --> 00:17:02,040 Speaker 2: the blitz beaters, you think of like, okay, the blitzes 356 00:17:02,080 --> 00:17:03,760 Speaker 2: come and get the ball out of your hands quickly. 357 00:17:04,040 --> 00:17:06,000 Speaker 2: But that's a that was a deep throw down the 358 00:17:06,040 --> 00:17:07,919 Speaker 2: field where like the line has to hold up to 359 00:17:07,920 --> 00:17:10,720 Speaker 2: give Lamar time to push that ball down the field 360 00:17:10,720 --> 00:17:13,600 Speaker 2: and Zay to get opened and also to see everything happening. 361 00:17:14,359 --> 00:17:16,480 Speaker 2: What what is your take on that on that play 362 00:17:16,520 --> 00:17:19,080 Speaker 2: and just kind of like that that route that big 363 00:17:19,119 --> 00:17:21,439 Speaker 2: play option to beat the cover zero blitz. 364 00:17:21,920 --> 00:17:25,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, I didn't, I didn't go I didn't find the 365 00:17:25,760 --> 00:17:28,679 Speaker 1: previous play. It wasn't really a cover zero blitz on 366 00:17:28,680 --> 00:17:32,160 Speaker 1: the fifty two yard are quite frankly. Yeah, I mean 367 00:17:32,480 --> 00:17:36,480 Speaker 1: their linebackers, Yeah, it just wasn't a cover zero. They 368 00:17:36,480 --> 00:17:40,760 Speaker 1: had a four man pressure I'm looking at it right now. Yeah, 369 00:17:40,800 --> 00:17:43,240 Speaker 1: and so they had Max protect on and he just 370 00:17:43,280 --> 00:17:45,800 Speaker 1: went over the top. Maybe the one that they were 371 00:17:45,800 --> 00:17:49,400 Speaker 1: talking about was early in the game, Lamar definitely had 372 00:17:49,400 --> 00:17:52,240 Speaker 1: a shot to Zay that he missed deep down the field. 373 00:17:52,280 --> 00:17:54,600 Speaker 3: It was a little bit too far he threw it. 374 00:17:55,520 --> 00:17:58,680 Speaker 1: Zay had a really quick win off the release. Now 375 00:17:58,720 --> 00:18:01,320 Speaker 1: this one was more of a zero. They had everybody 376 00:18:01,400 --> 00:18:03,919 Speaker 1: up of the line. It was press coverage three wide, 377 00:18:04,400 --> 00:18:07,879 Speaker 1: and they brought the heat and that's when when Lamar 378 00:18:07,960 --> 00:18:09,679 Speaker 1: kind of stepped up, had a little pressure in his 379 00:18:09,720 --> 00:18:12,520 Speaker 1: face and it sailed it a little bit too long 380 00:18:12,520 --> 00:18:15,840 Speaker 1: for Zay, but he gave him a shot. I don't 381 00:18:15,880 --> 00:18:18,199 Speaker 1: know if that was the one that Jay was referencing, like, 382 00:18:18,480 --> 00:18:20,040 Speaker 1: you know, basically, give it to me again, give me 383 00:18:20,080 --> 00:18:23,840 Speaker 1: another shot like we had that, because they absolutely did 384 00:18:23,840 --> 00:18:26,919 Speaker 1: and Zay, i mean just torched the guy off the 385 00:18:26,920 --> 00:18:27,800 Speaker 1: line of scrimmage. 386 00:18:28,000 --> 00:18:30,760 Speaker 2: Right. You might be right, because what Lamar was saying 387 00:18:30,880 --> 00:18:32,600 Speaker 2: was they went cover zero when he was open on 388 00:18:32,640 --> 00:18:34,479 Speaker 2: a post and I had to get the ball out 389 00:18:34,520 --> 00:18:37,120 Speaker 2: of my hands. That probably was, yeah, So that's probably 390 00:18:37,200 --> 00:18:40,119 Speaker 2: one that he's referencing. And then basically on that big play, 391 00:18:40,160 --> 00:18:42,760 Speaker 2: he said he noticed the safety driving on the crossing 392 00:18:42,840 --> 00:18:45,080 Speaker 2: route and then he basically said that Zay is going 393 00:18:45,160 --> 00:18:47,600 Speaker 2: to be open from you know, he's going to be 394 00:18:47,600 --> 00:18:49,320 Speaker 2: open because he has the ability to run away from 395 00:18:49,320 --> 00:18:50,959 Speaker 2: the corners. And that's exactly what happened. 396 00:18:51,200 --> 00:18:52,800 Speaker 3: That's one hundred percent what happened. 397 00:18:52,680 --> 00:18:55,560 Speaker 2: Exactly, which I think I just give both those guys credit. 398 00:18:55,680 --> 00:18:58,679 Speaker 2: Like I just think that, like we're coming back to this, 399 00:18:58,760 --> 00:19:01,400 Speaker 2: like Lamar's command and his mastery of the game. He's 400 00:19:01,400 --> 00:19:04,320 Speaker 2: in year six, so like you see things. It's things 401 00:19:04,359 --> 00:19:06,439 Speaker 2: aren't new to you. You have a good idea of 402 00:19:06,440 --> 00:19:08,600 Speaker 2: what defenses are going to do, how they're going to 403 00:19:08,640 --> 00:19:12,600 Speaker 2: play you. I just think that like that then allows 404 00:19:12,640 --> 00:19:15,080 Speaker 2: you to have confidence in a moment like that to say, 405 00:19:15,080 --> 00:19:16,600 Speaker 2: all right, you know, here's this is going to be 406 00:19:16,640 --> 00:19:18,080 Speaker 2: a moment where I have a chance to push the 407 00:19:18,080 --> 00:19:20,760 Speaker 2: ball down the field. I've seen it. My receiver saying 408 00:19:20,760 --> 00:19:23,679 Speaker 2: one thing, Like all of that I think is a 409 00:19:23,800 --> 00:19:28,160 Speaker 2: nice It just speaks to his mastery of the game. 410 00:19:28,640 --> 00:19:29,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, for sure. 411 00:19:29,359 --> 00:19:32,399 Speaker 1: I mean I think too, one thing that I noticed 412 00:19:33,160 --> 00:19:35,240 Speaker 1: on a couple of throws over the middle, I think 413 00:19:35,480 --> 00:19:37,240 Speaker 1: both the Nelly won the mark. 414 00:19:38,520 --> 00:19:41,800 Speaker 3: Just Lamar's Lamar's ability. 415 00:19:41,440 --> 00:19:45,359 Speaker 1: To manipulate defenders wait until those windows pop open and 416 00:19:45,400 --> 00:19:47,320 Speaker 1: really throw over the middle. Now he's thrown over the middle, 417 00:19:47,359 --> 00:19:50,720 Speaker 1: consistently pretty darn well. But I think having the kind 418 00:19:50,760 --> 00:19:53,480 Speaker 1: of the patients to let something develop, pop open in 419 00:19:53,520 --> 00:19:57,159 Speaker 1: the second window, manipulate, you know, wait until you know 420 00:19:57,400 --> 00:20:00,000 Speaker 1: the linebacker takes a step to cover that underneath route 421 00:20:00,040 --> 00:20:00,640 Speaker 1: and then throw it. 422 00:20:00,640 --> 00:20:01,920 Speaker 3: Right behind them. 423 00:20:02,000 --> 00:20:04,840 Speaker 1: Just really calm and confident, and I think also speaks 424 00:20:04,880 --> 00:20:07,720 Speaker 1: to the more robust kind of passing game that Todd 425 00:20:07,800 --> 00:20:10,280 Speaker 1: Mounkin has brought to Baltimore. You know, you just see 426 00:20:10,280 --> 00:20:13,720 Speaker 1: a little bit more windows, more layered, more spacing. You know, 427 00:20:13,960 --> 00:20:16,560 Speaker 1: certainly with the three more three wide looks, you see 428 00:20:16,560 --> 00:20:18,639 Speaker 1: a lot more spacing in the Ravens offense and in 429 00:20:18,680 --> 00:20:24,040 Speaker 1: their route concepts. And so seeing Lamar kind of wait 430 00:20:24,200 --> 00:20:26,760 Speaker 1: to wait for those windows to open up and hit 431 00:20:26,800 --> 00:20:28,879 Speaker 1: them was another impressive thing in this game. 432 00:20:29,200 --> 00:20:31,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, totally. All right, this ISOK a quick break. 433 00:20:31,560 --> 00:20:33,160 Speaker 2: Then when we come back, we'll dive into some more 434 00:20:33,160 --> 00:20:36,040 Speaker 2: conversation about the game and also take an early look 435 00:20:36,080 --> 00:20:39,159 Speaker 2: ahead to what this week's game against Colts has in 436 00:20:39,200 --> 00:20:41,280 Speaker 2: store for the Ravens. 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For help, visit 446 00:21:04,720 --> 00:21:08,159 Speaker 2: mb Gambley help dot org or call what Ain't Hunter Gambler. 447 00:21:08,200 --> 00:21:10,760 Speaker 2: You got to be twenty one or older and physically 448 00:21:10,880 --> 00:21:13,120 Speaker 2: president in Maryland to play. 449 00:21:15,280 --> 00:21:17,879 Speaker 3: We got to talk about the defense now right, Well, one. 450 00:21:17,760 --> 00:21:19,680 Speaker 2: Thing I want last point. I wanted to hit on 451 00:21:19,840 --> 00:21:22,600 Speaker 2: last point. I wanted to hit on with the offense. 452 00:21:22,680 --> 00:21:24,879 Speaker 2: And I actually said this to you when we wrapped 453 00:21:24,960 --> 00:21:28,880 Speaker 2: up the postgame podcast. I don't think we gave enough 454 00:21:28,960 --> 00:21:32,359 Speaker 2: credit to the offense for grinding out the game at 455 00:21:32,400 --> 00:21:36,119 Speaker 2: the end, Like you know, the Ravens are up, the 456 00:21:36,240 --> 00:21:38,480 Speaker 2: Bengals have a long drive, they get the touchdown, kick 457 00:21:38,520 --> 00:21:40,520 Speaker 2: the ball back to the Bengal, kick the ball back 458 00:21:40,560 --> 00:21:43,760 Speaker 2: to the Ravens. Basically four minutes left. You need two 459 00:21:43,840 --> 00:21:46,159 Speaker 2: first downs and the Ravens were able to get it. 460 00:21:46,280 --> 00:21:49,159 Speaker 2: And like we've seen plenty of times in those situations 461 00:21:49,160 --> 00:21:51,040 Speaker 2: where you don't get it and then you put defense 462 00:21:51,119 --> 00:21:53,520 Speaker 2: back on the field and then it's a tough situation 463 00:21:53,640 --> 00:21:55,359 Speaker 2: for the defense and it's hard to stop teams at 464 00:21:55,400 --> 00:21:57,240 Speaker 2: that point of the game. But the Ravens were able 465 00:21:57,280 --> 00:22:00,760 Speaker 2: to grind out, the grind out the win base, move 466 00:22:00,840 --> 00:22:02,720 Speaker 2: the ball on the ground, get a couple of first downs, 467 00:22:02,960 --> 00:22:04,840 Speaker 2: and steal it. And like, I just thought that, like 468 00:22:05,000 --> 00:22:07,560 Speaker 2: going back to the offensive line, that was huge for them. 469 00:22:08,000 --> 00:22:10,880 Speaker 2: Lamar had great command in terms of scramble ability to run. 470 00:22:11,880 --> 00:22:14,960 Speaker 2: I just I just thought that that was a huge 471 00:22:16,440 --> 00:22:18,080 Speaker 2: moment for this offense in a lot of ways. 472 00:22:18,960 --> 00:22:21,479 Speaker 1: Yeah, it reminded me of the win over the Chiefs 473 00:22:22,040 --> 00:22:24,640 Speaker 1: a couple of years ago. You know, the Lamar keeps 474 00:22:24,680 --> 00:22:28,920 Speaker 1: it on fourth down right, fourth down, plunges forward, and 475 00:22:29,400 --> 00:22:32,440 Speaker 1: what the kind of momentum builder and the kind of 476 00:22:32,520 --> 00:22:35,359 Speaker 1: confidence builder that that can have on a team to finish, 477 00:22:35,720 --> 00:22:38,120 Speaker 1: finish off a really good team with the ball in your. 478 00:22:38,119 --> 00:22:41,320 Speaker 3: Hands and just pound it at him at the end, 479 00:22:42,359 --> 00:22:43,240 Speaker 3: like everyone. 480 00:22:42,920 --> 00:22:44,760 Speaker 2: In the stadium knows you're running it. You know you're 481 00:22:44,800 --> 00:22:46,800 Speaker 2: running it. They know you're running it and it's just 482 00:22:46,840 --> 00:22:50,080 Speaker 2: all right Mono mimano and yeah, who can It's like 483 00:22:50,119 --> 00:22:52,520 Speaker 2: all the cliches, who wants it more, who wins the 484 00:22:52,560 --> 00:22:54,440 Speaker 2: one on one battle? All that stuff that the Ravens 485 00:22:54,480 --> 00:22:54,880 Speaker 2: got it done. 486 00:22:55,160 --> 00:22:56,760 Speaker 1: Well, that was straight power. I'll tell you who won 487 00:22:56,840 --> 00:22:59,919 Speaker 1: that battle because it broke that film down. Pat mc 488 00:23:00,080 --> 00:23:02,680 Speaker 1: carry John Simpson were in the in the lead and 489 00:23:02,760 --> 00:23:04,480 Speaker 1: then you had a kickout block. 490 00:23:04,560 --> 00:23:07,760 Speaker 3: You had Zeitler pulling around and uh and they brought 491 00:23:07,800 --> 00:23:08,560 Speaker 3: in the big guy. 492 00:23:11,280 --> 00:23:13,159 Speaker 1: On the other side of Pat McCarey so that they 493 00:23:13,320 --> 00:23:16,639 Speaker 1: they ran it right behind McCarry though, and got the 494 00:23:16,800 --> 00:23:19,840 Speaker 1: job done. And so a really good job of just 495 00:23:20,200 --> 00:23:23,359 Speaker 1: power football. At the end of that game with gust 496 00:23:23,400 --> 00:23:25,000 Speaker 1: the Bus, I mean, is there a better closer than 497 00:23:25,040 --> 00:23:25,520 Speaker 1: gust the bus? 498 00:23:25,640 --> 00:23:27,680 Speaker 3: Also short yardage. 499 00:23:27,359 --> 00:23:31,320 Speaker 1: Closer, give me that guy, right, And really cool to 500 00:23:31,359 --> 00:23:33,960 Speaker 1: see at the end of that play. You see Morgan 501 00:23:34,040 --> 00:23:36,320 Speaker 1: Moses and Pat McCarey just kind of skipping down the 502 00:23:36,400 --> 00:23:39,320 Speaker 1: field and like you know, slapping each other on the 503 00:23:39,440 --> 00:23:42,520 Speaker 1: chest and and just the moment for those two guys 504 00:23:42,600 --> 00:23:46,280 Speaker 1: with considering the game, the offensive line had just a 505 00:23:46,440 --> 00:23:47,280 Speaker 1: really cool moment. 506 00:23:47,720 --> 00:23:50,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm with you. I just think that yeah, again 507 00:23:50,960 --> 00:23:53,320 Speaker 2: going back to the quality of the offensive line. I 508 00:23:53,359 --> 00:23:55,920 Speaker 2: just think all that plays into it. But now you 509 00:23:56,000 --> 00:23:58,240 Speaker 2: want to talk defense, all right, so so let's let's 510 00:23:58,280 --> 00:24:00,800 Speaker 2: talk defense. And I think, you know, I think Mike 511 00:24:00,920 --> 00:24:04,040 Speaker 2: McDonald's getting some well deserved credit this week for just 512 00:24:04,080 --> 00:24:06,000 Speaker 2: the way the defense played. You know, he kind of 513 00:24:06,000 --> 00:24:08,080 Speaker 2: shot down my question earlier in the week when I 514 00:24:08,200 --> 00:24:09,399 Speaker 2: was like, hey, you guys have done a pretty good 515 00:24:09,480 --> 00:24:11,159 Speaker 2: job of limiting Joe Burrow, and he was like, now, 516 00:24:11,200 --> 00:24:13,920 Speaker 2: we haven't they beat us last two times, So shutting. 517 00:24:13,680 --> 00:24:15,280 Speaker 1: Mike's Mike's not going to be the one that pats 518 00:24:15,320 --> 00:24:18,040 Speaker 1: himself on the hut. Garrett, tell you that I do 519 00:24:18,240 --> 00:24:20,840 Speaker 1: enjoy that, you know, you know, I love it whenever 520 00:24:20,920 --> 00:24:23,760 Speaker 1: that happens. So well in Roquan in the locker room 521 00:24:23,760 --> 00:24:25,560 Speaker 1: after the game. Ya, we're not short handed, Garrett. 522 00:24:26,440 --> 00:24:31,400 Speaker 3: Garrett, Yeah, you just been getting hammered. You've been getting 523 00:24:31,400 --> 00:24:35,080 Speaker 3: the hammer drops lately. You're in my territory. You're catching 524 00:24:35,160 --> 00:24:36,399 Speaker 3: up to me, buddy, I'm catching up. 525 00:24:36,440 --> 00:24:38,600 Speaker 2: I'm catching up. You've got You've got let me tell you, Yeah, 526 00:24:38,800 --> 00:24:42,040 Speaker 2: the way to a hellthy lead. You might have laughed me, 527 00:24:42,160 --> 00:24:45,879 Speaker 2: but I'm catching up, but uh, he you know so, 528 00:24:46,520 --> 00:24:49,560 Speaker 2: but Mike's getting credit. Peter Scheger talked about him as 529 00:24:49,600 --> 00:24:52,639 Speaker 2: his coach of the Week this week, giving him praise 530 00:24:52,680 --> 00:24:55,920 Speaker 2: for the way the Ravens limited Joe Burrow. They've done 531 00:24:55,920 --> 00:24:57,840 Speaker 2: a great job of that going back the last two 532 00:24:57,920 --> 00:25:00,399 Speaker 2: seasons and this was another indication of it. But so 533 00:25:00,400 --> 00:25:02,800 Speaker 2: so when you looked at the tape, what'd you see? 534 00:25:02,840 --> 00:25:04,000 Speaker 2: Why were they able to limit them? 535 00:25:04,960 --> 00:25:08,120 Speaker 1: Well, certainly, you know, the play a Geno Stone kind 536 00:25:08,160 --> 00:25:12,000 Speaker 1: of uh was a huge catalyst in this. Obviously, his 537 00:25:12,080 --> 00:25:15,240 Speaker 1: interception was was the play defensive play of the game. 538 00:25:15,560 --> 00:25:19,160 Speaker 1: I think in what they did so well to limit 539 00:25:19,240 --> 00:25:21,800 Speaker 1: them was they the Bengals were getting the ball out 540 00:25:21,840 --> 00:25:24,800 Speaker 1: of Joe's hands pretty fast, which certainly played into the 541 00:25:24,960 --> 00:25:27,480 Speaker 1: Ravens lack of pass rush. So they were kind of 542 00:25:27,560 --> 00:25:31,000 Speaker 1: content to hit these you know, four yard outs, the 543 00:25:31,160 --> 00:25:33,120 Speaker 1: kind of quick hitter stuff. They did not take many 544 00:25:33,160 --> 00:25:35,720 Speaker 1: shots down the field in part, I think because the 545 00:25:35,800 --> 00:25:38,040 Speaker 1: Ravens do such a good job and Mike McDonald of 546 00:25:38,119 --> 00:25:40,760 Speaker 1: kind of clouding the picture moving guys around. You saw, 547 00:25:41,080 --> 00:25:45,760 Speaker 1: I saw them using their versatility a pretty good amount, right, 548 00:25:45,880 --> 00:25:50,399 Speaker 1: And and you'd you really don't know pre snap what 549 00:25:50,880 --> 00:25:55,520 Speaker 1: Rokwan Smith and Patrick Queen are doing because they're always 550 00:25:55,920 --> 00:25:58,119 Speaker 1: you know, they could be rating the a gap ready 551 00:25:58,160 --> 00:26:00,520 Speaker 1: to blitz, or they drop out so off and also 552 00:26:00,920 --> 00:26:03,520 Speaker 1: so that really clouds the picture. All of that really 553 00:26:03,560 --> 00:26:05,720 Speaker 1: clouds the picture for Joe Burrow and he ends up 554 00:26:05,760 --> 00:26:07,920 Speaker 1: taking a lot of times in this game, he ended 555 00:26:08,000 --> 00:26:10,119 Speaker 1: up taking the first kind of clear throw that he 556 00:26:10,240 --> 00:26:14,040 Speaker 1: was given. And then point number two is rally and tackling. 557 00:26:14,359 --> 00:26:19,040 Speaker 1: The Ravens tackled really well in this game. Patrick Queen specifically, 558 00:26:19,600 --> 00:26:23,040 Speaker 1: I thought, tackled extremely well. I mean, you saw saw 559 00:26:23,119 --> 00:26:27,159 Speaker 1: a couple quick passes out to Joe Mixon and Patrick 560 00:26:27,200 --> 00:26:28,720 Speaker 1: Queen just hunts him down. 561 00:26:29,000 --> 00:26:31,320 Speaker 3: Like a dog, right. 562 00:26:31,920 --> 00:26:34,879 Speaker 1: I mean, one time he rolled up, ripped the dude's 563 00:26:34,880 --> 00:26:37,240 Speaker 1: shoe off. He said, I'll take the tackle and I'll take. 564 00:26:37,119 --> 00:26:38,800 Speaker 2: Your shoe, i know, and then he just kind of 565 00:26:38,840 --> 00:26:39,199 Speaker 2: tossed it. 566 00:26:40,680 --> 00:26:43,879 Speaker 3: And I just thought, like, again, you. 567 00:26:43,920 --> 00:26:46,280 Speaker 1: Know, we we were really talking about the inside linebacker 568 00:26:46,400 --> 00:26:48,640 Speaker 1: duo after the Texans game and again, and I think 569 00:26:48,680 --> 00:26:51,160 Speaker 1: even Patrick Queen stood out even more so in Week two. 570 00:26:51,880 --> 00:26:55,000 Speaker 1: Just those guys and the way they're dictating games is 571 00:26:55,080 --> 00:26:56,560 Speaker 1: pretty remarkable. 572 00:26:57,119 --> 00:26:58,800 Speaker 2: I'd like I feel like I say it, it's on 573 00:26:58,920 --> 00:27:02,359 Speaker 2: repeat every week with him. But they're they're just playing 574 00:27:02,400 --> 00:27:05,880 Speaker 2: at such a high level that like, yeah, dictating games 575 00:27:06,040 --> 00:27:07,560 Speaker 2: is a good way to put it. Like they are, 576 00:27:08,920 --> 00:27:11,840 Speaker 2: they're the emotional tone setters, but like their ability to 577 00:27:11,960 --> 00:27:14,879 Speaker 2: fly all over the place. Roquan is always in the 578 00:27:14,960 --> 00:27:17,159 Speaker 2: right place at the right time, and Patrick Queen is 579 00:27:17,480 --> 00:27:20,920 Speaker 2: is tremendous sideline to sideline cleaning up anything out of 580 00:27:20,960 --> 00:27:23,000 Speaker 2: the backfield. And I think the Ravens have a good 581 00:27:23,000 --> 00:27:24,760 Speaker 2: defensive line that doesn't let a lot through and if 582 00:27:24,800 --> 00:27:26,679 Speaker 2: it does get through, Roquan's there to clean it up. 583 00:27:27,440 --> 00:27:29,840 Speaker 2: And it just it makes it really hard. It makes 584 00:27:29,880 --> 00:27:32,680 Speaker 2: it And when you have like this this secondary that 585 00:27:33,240 --> 00:27:36,520 Speaker 2: was down Marlin, it was down Marcus Williams, and you 586 00:27:36,680 --> 00:27:38,359 Speaker 2: think that like, okay, well, this is going to be 587 00:27:38,400 --> 00:27:42,320 Speaker 2: a chance to potentially, you know, against this great trio 588 00:27:42,359 --> 00:27:44,399 Speaker 2: of wide receivers and Joe Burrow, Like you think, okay, well, 589 00:27:44,400 --> 00:27:47,280 Speaker 2: this is going to be a time where the Bengals 590 00:27:47,280 --> 00:27:51,200 Speaker 2: could tee off potentially. Well, they kept things in front 591 00:27:51,240 --> 00:27:54,040 Speaker 2: of them with I think that was part scheme. But 592 00:27:54,200 --> 00:27:56,440 Speaker 2: I think that the way that Rokuwan and Patrick Queen 593 00:27:56,560 --> 00:27:58,159 Speaker 2: just make life so difficult in the middle of the 594 00:27:58,240 --> 00:28:01,280 Speaker 2: field and anything of the backfield. It just is it 595 00:28:01,400 --> 00:28:04,200 Speaker 2: makes it hard for the offense to get anything going. 596 00:28:04,320 --> 00:28:06,119 Speaker 2: And I and I do think that there is like 597 00:28:06,240 --> 00:28:08,520 Speaker 2: a tone setting element. I like, I really think that, 598 00:28:08,640 --> 00:28:11,480 Speaker 2: like with the way those guys like hit, like the 599 00:28:11,600 --> 00:28:14,240 Speaker 2: Bengals know it's going to be a physical game, Like 600 00:28:14,400 --> 00:28:16,200 Speaker 2: you don't want to get hit by Roquan Smith coming 601 00:28:16,200 --> 00:28:18,520 Speaker 2: over the middlefield. You don't want Patrick Queen coming downhill 602 00:28:18,560 --> 00:28:20,639 Speaker 2: at you and laying you out. And I think that, 603 00:28:20,760 --> 00:28:23,000 Speaker 2: like you you feel it when you play the Ravens, 604 00:28:23,680 --> 00:28:25,960 Speaker 2: especially with with p Q and Rokuan in the middle 605 00:28:26,040 --> 00:28:26,320 Speaker 2: right now. 606 00:28:26,880 --> 00:28:29,480 Speaker 3: And that's the kind of stuff that goes beyond the film. 607 00:28:29,760 --> 00:28:32,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, that that's a real thing. And I think that 608 00:28:33,119 --> 00:28:35,560 Speaker 2: like that has a bearing on how these games are 609 00:28:35,600 --> 00:28:41,320 Speaker 2: being played out. And I just it's an interesting like 610 00:28:41,920 --> 00:28:44,800 Speaker 2: as you know, it's great, it's it's just great. I 611 00:28:44,960 --> 00:28:47,560 Speaker 2: love watching those two guys and like we you know, 612 00:28:47,640 --> 00:28:49,760 Speaker 2: it's really an offseason question. Can you keep them together 613 00:28:49,840 --> 00:28:52,920 Speaker 2: long term? I hope they can because these two these 614 00:28:52,960 --> 00:28:56,000 Speaker 2: two players next to each other are difference makers. 615 00:28:56,000 --> 00:28:59,800 Speaker 3: And it's just it's they're awesome. 616 00:29:00,040 --> 00:29:01,360 Speaker 2: Are awesome, yep. 617 00:29:02,360 --> 00:29:03,360 Speaker 3: Talking about tackling. 618 00:29:04,120 --> 00:29:07,080 Speaker 1: One kind of under the radar play that was really 619 00:29:07,120 --> 00:29:10,520 Speaker 1: big was the Kyle Hamilton tackle in the fourth quarter. 620 00:29:12,760 --> 00:29:14,600 Speaker 2: We talked about we both we both knew that that 621 00:29:14,680 --> 00:29:14,960 Speaker 2: could have. 622 00:29:14,960 --> 00:29:18,160 Speaker 1: Been sitting sitting next to each other in the press box. 623 00:29:18,240 --> 00:29:20,560 Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, I almost spell my skyline chili. 624 00:29:21,080 --> 00:29:23,600 Speaker 3: Yes, exactly, that was. That was an exhale moment watching 625 00:29:23,640 --> 00:29:25,280 Speaker 3: that one on film and how close that was. 626 00:29:25,360 --> 00:29:25,560 Speaker 1: It was. 627 00:29:25,960 --> 00:29:27,040 Speaker 3: It was pretty wide open. 628 00:29:27,320 --> 00:29:30,240 Speaker 1: Maybe maybe he doesn't score, but he could have taken 629 00:29:30,280 --> 00:29:33,320 Speaker 1: He possibly could have certainly on a seventy six what 630 00:29:33,400 --> 00:29:35,800 Speaker 1: would have been a seventy six yard touchdown if Kyle 631 00:29:35,840 --> 00:29:38,040 Speaker 1: Hamilton doesn't make that tackle. So that was an impressive 632 00:29:38,040 --> 00:29:41,000 Speaker 1: play by him. Really, the Bengals only hit one one 633 00:29:41,080 --> 00:29:42,920 Speaker 1: kind of bigish play. It was a thirty some yard 634 00:29:43,000 --> 00:29:46,480 Speaker 1: or on a misdirection kind of tricky play, a little 635 00:29:47,400 --> 00:29:50,320 Speaker 1: little ball handling, flip it back out to mixing on 636 00:29:50,400 --> 00:29:52,800 Speaker 1: the outside and Kyle Hamilton came crashing down, kind of 637 00:29:52,840 --> 00:29:55,520 Speaker 1: took the bait and Joe Mixon slipped out in the 638 00:29:55,560 --> 00:29:58,920 Speaker 1: flats for a long game. That was the only real mistake, 639 00:29:59,120 --> 00:30:02,000 Speaker 1: Like bad steak on film, that I saw, you know, 640 00:30:02,080 --> 00:30:05,240 Speaker 1: in terms of coverage, like also give these corners without 641 00:30:05,320 --> 00:30:08,840 Speaker 1: Marlon Humphrey, give them a lotica of props too. You know, 642 00:30:09,000 --> 00:30:12,000 Speaker 1: some some guys, you know there's our Darrius Fashington had 643 00:30:12,280 --> 00:30:14,920 Speaker 1: he slipped on one. You know, they're they're of course 644 00:30:14,960 --> 00:30:17,320 Speaker 1: you're going to give some up, but like pretty darn 645 00:30:17,400 --> 00:30:18,800 Speaker 1: good coverage by these corners. 646 00:30:18,840 --> 00:30:19,560 Speaker 2: Well, you know what it is. 647 00:30:19,960 --> 00:30:22,440 Speaker 1: You know what it is, oh, podcast bump. Yeah, I 648 00:30:22,480 --> 00:30:25,440 Speaker 1: mean that's what Brandon Stevens for sure, Stevens. 649 00:30:25,200 --> 00:30:28,200 Speaker 2: Podcast Bump the Rock the Rock, Rocky scene comes back, 650 00:30:29,200 --> 00:30:33,040 Speaker 2: and it's it's the it's the it's the delayed podcast Bump. 651 00:30:33,120 --> 00:30:33,640 Speaker 2: That's what it is. 652 00:30:36,320 --> 00:30:37,400 Speaker 3: Podcast Bump is alive. 653 00:30:37,440 --> 00:30:40,440 Speaker 2: And well, as we're recruiting guys for the podcast this week, uh, 654 00:30:40,920 --> 00:30:43,560 Speaker 2: we're letting him know, like you know, Brandon Stevens came on, 655 00:30:44,160 --> 00:30:48,080 Speaker 2: steps up, shuts down, Jamar Chase like one hundred percent 656 00:30:48,160 --> 00:30:49,719 Speaker 2: of result of the interview that you did with us, 657 00:30:49,760 --> 00:30:51,680 Speaker 2: So you know you want to come and get some 658 00:30:51,760 --> 00:30:53,880 Speaker 2: of that good juju, come on the podcast, and who 659 00:30:53,920 --> 00:30:54,840 Speaker 2: knows what could happen for you this. 660 00:30:54,880 --> 00:31:01,680 Speaker 1: Week exactly exactly. So yeah, I mean I thought that 661 00:31:01,840 --> 00:31:03,840 Speaker 1: the defense tackled really well. And then we have to 662 00:31:03,920 --> 00:31:09,080 Speaker 1: talk about the Geno interception. Okay, a kind of what 663 00:31:09,280 --> 00:31:13,360 Speaker 1: happened on the play, which is Geno Stone sees Jamar 664 00:31:13,480 --> 00:31:15,960 Speaker 1: Chase as one on one with Brandon Stevens on the outside. 665 00:31:16,720 --> 00:31:20,000 Speaker 1: Jamar Chase, what's funny when when Gino talked about it 666 00:31:20,080 --> 00:31:21,880 Speaker 1: after the game, he was like, oh, Jamar Chase had 667 00:31:21,920 --> 00:31:24,000 Speaker 1: an outside release, so I knew Brandon Stevens had the 668 00:31:24,160 --> 00:31:27,040 Speaker 1: kind of the boundary and I could cheat inside. 669 00:31:27,280 --> 00:31:28,400 Speaker 3: What's funny is on film? 670 00:31:28,480 --> 00:31:33,600 Speaker 1: Actually no Jamar Chase released inside, right, But Gino was 671 00:31:33,720 --> 00:31:36,600 Speaker 1: kind of watching Joe Burrow's eyes and. 672 00:31:36,960 --> 00:31:39,160 Speaker 3: The play should have worked, you know. 673 00:31:39,240 --> 00:31:42,040 Speaker 1: The Bengals kind of set it up well that they 674 00:31:42,160 --> 00:31:44,680 Speaker 1: ran it a similar play early in the game, and 675 00:31:44,800 --> 00:31:46,760 Speaker 1: the Ravens had it cover the second time they ran it, 676 00:31:46,840 --> 00:31:49,120 Speaker 1: and t Higgins went the other way and popped over 677 00:31:49,200 --> 00:31:52,920 Speaker 1: the top of Rokwon Smith, right, and so Burrow kind 678 00:31:52,960 --> 00:31:55,200 Speaker 1: of to what Rokwon said. Burrow thought, here we go 679 00:31:55,360 --> 00:31:57,000 Speaker 1: high low game. I'm gonna I'm gonna put it over 680 00:31:57,120 --> 00:32:00,760 Speaker 1: Roquon's head. It's gonna be wide open. Well, Gino Stone 681 00:32:00,880 --> 00:32:03,120 Speaker 1: was watching Joe Burrow and saw that he never really 682 00:32:03,200 --> 00:32:06,720 Speaker 1: looked out towards Jamar Chase and just broke on that thing. 683 00:32:07,320 --> 00:32:08,760 Speaker 3: Just an amazing play. 684 00:32:09,440 --> 00:32:12,360 Speaker 1: And then the debate, the greatest debate of the week, 685 00:32:12,400 --> 00:32:14,760 Speaker 1: Garrett is, could he have picked sixed it? 686 00:32:15,840 --> 00:32:17,480 Speaker 3: What do you what do you think? What's your take? 687 00:32:18,480 --> 00:32:18,600 Speaker 1: Uh? 688 00:32:18,680 --> 00:32:22,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think he could have. Really Okay, I think 689 00:32:22,400 --> 00:32:23,920 Speaker 2: that he I think that he could have. I mean, 690 00:32:24,360 --> 00:32:26,400 Speaker 2: I'm not saying it was quite as easy as it 691 00:32:26,440 --> 00:32:30,360 Speaker 2: looked at first blush, but I think that the potential 692 00:32:30,520 --> 00:32:32,520 Speaker 2: was there for him for him to bring that all 693 00:32:32,560 --> 00:32:37,120 Speaker 2: the way back. He took it to the outside, which 694 00:32:37,480 --> 00:32:39,160 Speaker 2: I understand why he did. I mean, he caught it 695 00:32:39,240 --> 00:32:40,479 Speaker 2: in the in the middle of the field, was kind 696 00:32:40,480 --> 00:32:42,600 Speaker 2: of clogged up, He's moving in that direction. If he 697 00:32:42,680 --> 00:32:45,000 Speaker 2: had cut it back, I think he had a legit 698 00:32:45,160 --> 00:32:47,640 Speaker 2: chance to take it to the house. But I don't Again, 699 00:32:47,720 --> 00:32:51,320 Speaker 2: I don't think it was like a gimmey. He's getting 700 00:32:51,400 --> 00:32:53,480 Speaker 2: crushed a little bit and people are acting like it 701 00:32:53,640 --> 00:32:55,320 Speaker 2: was just like a gimmey. It was just like sitting there, 702 00:32:55,360 --> 00:32:56,640 Speaker 2: like all he had to do was walk across the 703 00:32:56,680 --> 00:32:58,680 Speaker 2: goal line. I don't think it was that easy, but 704 00:32:58,840 --> 00:33:00,840 Speaker 2: I think that had he played right let me ask 705 00:33:00,840 --> 00:33:03,239 Speaker 2: you this question. Okay, if you're going to say, if 706 00:33:03,240 --> 00:33:05,520 Speaker 2: you're about to say it's not gonna be is your 707 00:33:05,560 --> 00:33:07,520 Speaker 2: take that it was not a pick pick fixable? 708 00:33:08,400 --> 00:33:08,520 Speaker 1: Uh? 709 00:33:08,600 --> 00:33:09,960 Speaker 2: No, I think it was picked. 710 00:33:11,120 --> 00:33:13,120 Speaker 3: I think it was. Oh, Ed Reid would. 711 00:33:14,560 --> 00:33:17,200 Speaker 1: Brings it back one hundred percent, it was picked six 712 00:33:17,320 --> 00:33:20,120 Speaker 1: a bull, But I don't think it was. It was like, 713 00:33:20,360 --> 00:33:24,320 Speaker 1: oh my god, that was absolutely should have been a pick. 714 00:33:24,400 --> 00:33:28,160 Speaker 2: Sex Yeah, yeah, I agree. I again, I think he's 715 00:33:28,200 --> 00:33:30,800 Speaker 2: getting crushed a little a little harshly. 716 00:33:31,640 --> 00:33:32,120 Speaker 1: But it it. 717 00:33:32,400 --> 00:33:34,280 Speaker 2: It could have been there. It could have been there. 718 00:33:35,000 --> 00:33:37,720 Speaker 1: Okay, Yeah, I mean the blockers were there. They like 719 00:33:37,840 --> 00:33:39,360 Speaker 1: he had like three or four blockers. They were like 720 00:33:39,400 --> 00:33:41,920 Speaker 1: three or four Bengals in front of them. But the 721 00:33:42,040 --> 00:33:43,959 Speaker 1: Ravens also had like three or four blockers. So if 722 00:33:44,000 --> 00:33:46,680 Speaker 1: we get a hat on a hat and block that 723 00:33:46,760 --> 00:33:49,680 Speaker 1: pretty darn well, uh there's a chance. 724 00:33:49,760 --> 00:33:50,360 Speaker 3: There's a chance. 725 00:33:50,640 --> 00:33:50,840 Speaker 2: Yeah. 726 00:33:51,480 --> 00:33:54,200 Speaker 1: Uh But anyway, perhaps props the geno stone. Like we 727 00:33:54,240 --> 00:33:55,840 Speaker 1: said at the top, I mean, dude had his best 728 00:33:55,880 --> 00:33:58,120 Speaker 1: game of his career, and so I you know what, 729 00:33:58,240 --> 00:34:00,200 Speaker 1: I'm not going to dog him. I'm not gonna dog 730 00:34:00,280 --> 00:34:00,800 Speaker 1: them too bad. 731 00:34:01,360 --> 00:34:05,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm with you, all right. So this week obviously 732 00:34:05,680 --> 00:34:10,720 Speaker 2: Colts come into town. You know, some questions, what's Anthony 733 00:34:10,840 --> 00:34:12,759 Speaker 2: Richardson status? Is he going to play? Do they do 734 00:34:12,840 --> 00:34:15,319 Speaker 2: they play it safe with him and be cautious. I mean, 735 00:34:15,320 --> 00:34:16,880 Speaker 2: that would be a tough assignment for guy coming off 736 00:34:16,920 --> 00:34:18,920 Speaker 2: with concussion to then have to go out there and 737 00:34:19,000 --> 00:34:21,960 Speaker 2: play in a road environment in his third NFL game. 738 00:34:22,040 --> 00:34:26,640 Speaker 2: That would be challenging. You know, I think certainly this 739 00:34:26,800 --> 00:34:29,759 Speaker 2: is a game that you feel like the Ravens should win. 740 00:34:30,280 --> 00:34:33,319 Speaker 2: They're two and zero. What is your kind of early 741 00:34:33,400 --> 00:34:34,759 Speaker 2: thought on this on this one? 742 00:34:35,960 --> 00:34:37,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, well, I mean I think a lot. You know, 743 00:34:37,800 --> 00:34:40,840 Speaker 3: part of it has to do, certainly with the status 744 00:34:40,880 --> 00:34:41,840 Speaker 3: of Anthony Richardson. 745 00:34:42,440 --> 00:34:42,560 Speaker 2: Uh. 746 00:34:42,680 --> 00:34:46,080 Speaker 1: You know, he's been good. He's been really good the 747 00:34:46,080 --> 00:34:47,680 Speaker 1: first few weeks. He was off to a hot starting 748 00:34:47,719 --> 00:34:51,480 Speaker 1: week two, you know, so he would add another challenge 749 00:34:51,520 --> 00:34:52,600 Speaker 1: if if he's able to play. 750 00:34:52,680 --> 00:34:53,320 Speaker 3: We'll see on that. 751 00:34:53,800 --> 00:34:56,800 Speaker 1: Gardner minshew that you know, he's a good backup quarterback 752 00:34:56,800 --> 00:34:57,439 Speaker 1: who can get hot. 753 00:34:57,640 --> 00:35:01,480 Speaker 2: You know, That's the thing. I don't know, Like I 754 00:35:01,520 --> 00:35:04,840 Speaker 2: don't I'm not convinced that like the uh you know 755 00:35:05,280 --> 00:35:09,359 Speaker 2: that it necessarily sways things. It's for different reasons, like Gardner. 756 00:35:09,440 --> 00:35:11,759 Speaker 2: Minshew can get hot. He can you know, he's been 757 00:35:11,800 --> 00:35:14,480 Speaker 2: a streaky quarterback that's delivered some big performances in his career. 758 00:35:14,640 --> 00:35:17,600 Speaker 2: Anthony Richardson is the top five pick who has enormous 759 00:35:17,680 --> 00:35:19,360 Speaker 2: talent and it can be a difference maker with his 760 00:35:19,480 --> 00:35:21,759 Speaker 2: legs as well. Also has a huge arm. So like 761 00:35:21,880 --> 00:35:24,640 Speaker 2: they have difference bring different strengths to the table. But 762 00:35:24,800 --> 00:35:27,840 Speaker 2: I don't like, I don't know which one. You know that, 763 00:35:28,600 --> 00:35:32,920 Speaker 2: I don't know that who plays necessarily changes. 764 00:35:33,200 --> 00:35:36,840 Speaker 3: You know that, like right, that's gonna determine the winner. 765 00:35:36,960 --> 00:35:38,760 Speaker 2: No, and for different reasons. 766 00:35:39,360 --> 00:35:41,160 Speaker 3: Mm hmm, yeah, I think I think that's fair. 767 00:35:41,200 --> 00:35:43,360 Speaker 1: I mean, the Ravens are the stronger team here obviously, 768 00:35:44,560 --> 00:35:46,560 Speaker 1: But you know, I thought John Harball set the tone 769 00:35:46,600 --> 00:35:48,920 Speaker 1: pretty well this week and said, hey, if you're not 770 00:35:48,960 --> 00:35:51,600 Speaker 1: getting better, you're gonna get passed in the NFL. That's 771 00:35:51,680 --> 00:35:53,879 Speaker 1: just the way it works every every week. I just think, 772 00:35:54,360 --> 00:35:56,200 Speaker 1: you know, John, you know, you know what I think 773 00:35:56,200 --> 00:35:58,440 Speaker 1: about John. He's a great leader and I think he 774 00:35:58,719 --> 00:36:01,319 Speaker 1: just knows the right tone to set. And this week 775 00:36:01,400 --> 00:36:03,440 Speaker 1: it's we have to get better. You know, we're two 776 00:36:03,520 --> 00:36:06,160 Speaker 1: and oh we're one of only two two and oh 777 00:36:06,280 --> 00:36:08,719 Speaker 1: teams in the AFC, the Ravens and Dolphins. We're in 778 00:36:08,800 --> 00:36:11,839 Speaker 1: first place in the AFC North alone already, so we're 779 00:36:11,840 --> 00:36:13,960 Speaker 1: in a good position here. But if you think that, 780 00:36:14,239 --> 00:36:16,240 Speaker 1: you know, you just won the championship against the Bengals, 781 00:36:16,320 --> 00:36:18,560 Speaker 1: you thought wrong. And if you're not getting better this week, 782 00:36:18,840 --> 00:36:20,719 Speaker 1: you're gonna get beat. That's just the way it works 783 00:36:20,760 --> 00:36:23,800 Speaker 1: in the NFL. And this is the classic quote unquote 784 00:36:23,880 --> 00:36:26,719 Speaker 1: trap game. Come back home against an opponent that you 785 00:36:26,800 --> 00:36:30,920 Speaker 1: know you're better then. But I think the Colts have 786 00:36:31,000 --> 00:36:33,160 Speaker 1: done a good job scheming things up for Anthony Richardson. 787 00:36:33,239 --> 00:36:35,360 Speaker 1: I think that is the difference to me between the 788 00:36:35,440 --> 00:36:38,040 Speaker 1: two is like they've they've done a good job scheme 789 00:36:38,080 --> 00:36:40,320 Speaker 1: wise for him. It could be because of his unique talents. 790 00:36:40,320 --> 00:36:45,040 Speaker 1: I think they become a little bit more predictable. Let's 791 00:36:45,040 --> 00:36:47,800 Speaker 1: say it's a more traditional offense if you don't have 792 00:36:47,920 --> 00:36:49,040 Speaker 1: Anthony Richardson in there. 793 00:36:49,280 --> 00:36:51,279 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I think that's fair. I think that's fair. 794 00:36:53,600 --> 00:36:56,719 Speaker 2: And we'll keep you posted this week on injuries as well. 795 00:36:56,760 --> 00:36:58,640 Speaker 2: I mean, we cover, we hit the status of them, 796 00:36:58,680 --> 00:37:00,880 Speaker 2: and I think that, like the this reports over the 797 00:37:00,920 --> 00:37:02,560 Speaker 2: course of this week are going to be really telling, 798 00:37:02,680 --> 00:37:04,840 Speaker 2: you know, for a guy like Marlon Humphrey, could he 799 00:37:04,920 --> 00:37:06,279 Speaker 2: come back and play in one week? You know, he's 800 00:37:06,280 --> 00:37:08,279 Speaker 2: coming off foot surgery, so could he get back on 801 00:37:08,320 --> 00:37:11,120 Speaker 2: the field and practice and play on Sunday. You know, 802 00:37:11,200 --> 00:37:13,279 Speaker 2: if he's if he's a full participant all week, then 803 00:37:13,360 --> 00:37:15,879 Speaker 2: you feel pretty good about that. If he's limited all week, 804 00:37:16,040 --> 00:37:18,520 Speaker 2: then it's more of a question. I think, you know, 805 00:37:18,840 --> 00:37:21,040 Speaker 2: the same goes for some of the other guys in 806 00:37:21,120 --> 00:37:22,600 Speaker 2: that mix as well. I mean, I think it's going 807 00:37:22,680 --> 00:37:24,560 Speaker 2: to be Wednesday and Thursday are going to be really 808 00:37:24,600 --> 00:37:28,160 Speaker 2: big in seeing whether Tyler Lindenbaum or Ronnie Stanley practices 809 00:37:28,480 --> 00:37:30,920 Speaker 2: the other guy. I'm just curious to see. Like Mark Andrews, 810 00:37:31,280 --> 00:37:34,160 Speaker 2: you know, I think fingers crossed, he's just good moving forward. 811 00:37:34,200 --> 00:37:36,760 Speaker 2: But of course he missed the opener, then was limited 812 00:37:36,800 --> 00:37:39,080 Speaker 2: for much of last week, played, scored a touchdown, looked 813 00:37:39,120 --> 00:37:41,600 Speaker 2: really good. But how did he feel on Monday morning? 814 00:37:41,640 --> 00:37:43,920 Speaker 2: How did he feel on Tuesday? And how what is 815 00:37:44,000 --> 00:37:46,759 Speaker 2: that injury, that quad injury, something that lingers at all? 816 00:37:46,920 --> 00:37:48,319 Speaker 2: Or is he good to go and he's a full, 817 00:37:48,560 --> 00:37:52,160 Speaker 2: full participant back on the practice field on Wednesday. I 818 00:37:52,239 --> 00:37:54,680 Speaker 2: just you know, fingers crossed that that's not something that 819 00:37:54,920 --> 00:37:55,440 Speaker 2: that lingers. 820 00:37:56,360 --> 00:37:57,240 Speaker 3: Yep, totally. 821 00:37:57,680 --> 00:38:00,400 Speaker 1: Thank you for listening, as always, will be back with 822 00:38:00,520 --> 00:38:03,400 Speaker 1: you or as always, you can reach us by email 823 00:38:03,640 --> 00:38:06,600 Speaker 1: at the Lounge at Ravens NFL dot net and we'll 824 00:38:06,640 --> 00:38:09,120 Speaker 1: be back with you later this week with a player 825 00:38:09,160 --> 00:38:09,520 Speaker 1: interview