1 00:00:01,200 --> 00:00:04,840 Speaker 1: We're bringing you another compilation of some of my favorite 2 00:00:04,880 --> 00:00:05,880 Speaker 1: stories from. 3 00:00:05,760 --> 00:00:10,319 Speaker 2: Games with names. Let's go now Doug Flute on his 4 00:00:10,600 --> 00:00:11,800 Speaker 2: iconic hill Mary pass. 5 00:00:13,560 --> 00:00:15,960 Speaker 3: When we got the ball, my mentality was, we've got 6 00:00:15,960 --> 00:00:18,000 Speaker 3: three or four plays here. Let's get the ball to midfield. 7 00:00:18,520 --> 00:00:20,119 Speaker 3: Just make sure we get the midfield. We take a 8 00:00:20,120 --> 00:00:23,160 Speaker 3: couple of shots. We had two timeouts. College football clock 9 00:00:23,160 --> 00:00:26,079 Speaker 3: stops after so we get a first down on the 10 00:00:26,079 --> 00:00:28,360 Speaker 3: first one on a seam route. We get a first 11 00:00:28,400 --> 00:00:32,080 Speaker 3: down on the second one out of bounds, and I'm like, 12 00:00:32,120 --> 00:00:33,320 Speaker 3: we're already cross midfield. 13 00:00:33,360 --> 00:00:34,159 Speaker 4: We still got two. 14 00:00:33,960 --> 00:00:37,080 Speaker 3: Timeouts, so there's one play was an incompletion. I never 15 00:00:37,200 --> 00:00:40,640 Speaker 3: used the timeouts, you know, we still had two in 16 00:00:40,680 --> 00:00:41,200 Speaker 3: our pocket. 17 00:00:41,360 --> 00:00:44,400 Speaker 1: And are you calling timeouts? You dropping them? 18 00:00:44,920 --> 00:00:46,960 Speaker 3: I yeah, that's another thing we call them on the 19 00:00:47,040 --> 00:00:49,760 Speaker 3: on the field. But we were really good at two 20 00:00:49,760 --> 00:00:52,440 Speaker 3: minutes and call it college is they waste more time? 21 00:00:52,479 --> 00:00:54,200 Speaker 3: You know, look into the sideline getting the plane all that. 22 00:00:55,040 --> 00:00:56,600 Speaker 3: I mean, I was just calling my own plays. So 23 00:00:56,640 --> 00:00:57,040 Speaker 3: we get it. 24 00:00:57,080 --> 00:00:58,120 Speaker 1: We line up in a hurry. 25 00:00:58,160 --> 00:01:00,040 Speaker 3: I get to play called. I'm ready to snap the 26 00:01:00,040 --> 00:01:02,760 Speaker 3: ball before the official and then on the whistle, boom, 27 00:01:03,000 --> 00:01:03,880 Speaker 3: he snaps the ball. 28 00:01:04,280 --> 00:01:05,119 Speaker 4: We didn't waste time. 29 00:01:05,160 --> 00:01:07,800 Speaker 3: We made maybe lost a second and a half, you know, 30 00:01:08,080 --> 00:01:10,840 Speaker 3: but uh we were we were good at not wasted 31 00:01:10,920 --> 00:01:12,680 Speaker 3: time on our two minute and I didn't have to 32 00:01:12,760 --> 00:01:14,240 Speaker 3: use the timeouts. 33 00:01:13,720 --> 00:01:15,920 Speaker 1: So you didn't have to use the timeouts. And it 34 00:01:16,000 --> 00:01:19,640 Speaker 1: goes into the last play. Now, what's your mindset? Can 35 00:01:19,640 --> 00:01:21,200 Speaker 1: you take us beat for beat with that? 36 00:01:21,360 --> 00:01:24,560 Speaker 3: My mindset is I was hoping to get a little closer. 37 00:01:24,760 --> 00:01:27,039 Speaker 3: Didn't happen in completion six seconds. Okay, it's time for 38 00:01:27,120 --> 00:01:29,280 Speaker 3: hill Mary. I'm getting in the huddle to call to 39 00:01:29,319 --> 00:01:31,800 Speaker 3: play and they're running a freshman on the field with 40 00:01:31,840 --> 00:01:35,360 Speaker 3: the play like I got a fifth It's like Sean 41 00:01:35,520 --> 00:01:39,400 Speaker 3: Sean Debrowski freshman Dumbo was his nickname they put they 42 00:01:39,400 --> 00:01:41,840 Speaker 3: want him on the field because he can jump. It's 43 00:01:41,840 --> 00:01:44,000 Speaker 3: not gonna be It's like you're a freshman sit out. 44 00:01:45,200 --> 00:01:47,720 Speaker 3: I'm waving him off the field because I want Troy Strafford. 45 00:01:47,800 --> 00:01:50,120 Speaker 3: He was a fifth year senior. I wanted Troy on 46 00:01:50,160 --> 00:01:52,600 Speaker 3: the field for the play and him be one of 47 00:01:52,640 --> 00:01:54,480 Speaker 3: the receivers. He was a running back, but I wanted 48 00:01:54,520 --> 00:01:56,720 Speaker 3: him in the mix. Uh, little that I know, Troy 49 00:01:56,720 --> 00:01:58,760 Speaker 3: had to pulled ham straight. He never gets down the 50 00:01:58,760 --> 00:02:01,640 Speaker 3: field on the play, so Troy starts to jog off 51 00:02:01,640 --> 00:02:03,960 Speaker 3: the field. I'm yelling at Troy to get his ass 52 00:02:04,000 --> 00:02:06,320 Speaker 3: back here, and Dumbo off the field. So the freshman doesn't. 53 00:02:06,360 --> 00:02:08,760 Speaker 3: He's like, I'm listening to Doug and I'm off the field. 54 00:02:09,200 --> 00:02:12,760 Speaker 3: Troy comes back to the huddle. The bench sends Sean Bag. 55 00:02:12,800 --> 00:02:13,919 Speaker 3: I'm like, no, sit down. 56 00:02:14,560 --> 00:02:15,639 Speaker 4: So we get the play called. 57 00:02:15,639 --> 00:02:19,359 Speaker 3: We go to the line of scrimmage and there's an 58 00:02:19,360 --> 00:02:21,800 Speaker 3: inverting whistle and a flag and there were the defenders 59 00:02:21,800 --> 00:02:26,680 Speaker 3: were on Girard and on Troy, leaving Calvin Martin, the 60 00:02:26,680 --> 00:02:28,840 Speaker 3: outside receiver, to be the free runner to get down 61 00:02:28,880 --> 00:02:32,480 Speaker 3: there first. And after the interverting whistle, we line up again. 62 00:02:32,840 --> 00:02:34,920 Speaker 3: Now I tell the tight end go down the backside, 63 00:02:35,040 --> 00:02:37,440 Speaker 3: and my philosophy is buy as much time as possible. 64 00:02:37,480 --> 00:02:40,640 Speaker 3: Make it a jump ball, but back then everybody drop back, 65 00:02:40,680 --> 00:02:42,480 Speaker 3: throw it. The receivers are still trying to get there. 66 00:02:42,480 --> 00:02:45,519 Speaker 3: You got to you gotta buy time, your time. The 67 00:02:46,160 --> 00:02:48,640 Speaker 3: last second, the defender decides, you know what, this is 68 00:02:48,639 --> 00:02:50,440 Speaker 3: the guy with speed, I'm gonna go jam him and 69 00:02:50,560 --> 00:02:54,720 Speaker 3: walks off. Gerard goes to the outside defender, allowing Gerard 70 00:02:54,720 --> 00:02:56,120 Speaker 3: to be the first guy down now, Gerard. 71 00:02:56,480 --> 00:02:59,000 Speaker 1: They did an iole on the replay. He looks like 72 00:02:59,080 --> 00:03:00,960 Speaker 1: he's running a five four forty. 73 00:03:01,560 --> 00:03:04,720 Speaker 3: I mean we're in a wet He's just chugging down 74 00:03:04,760 --> 00:03:07,480 Speaker 3: the field with his head down. And when I rolled right, 75 00:03:07,680 --> 00:03:11,960 Speaker 3: they all the defenders sat flat and let drgo right 76 00:03:11,960 --> 00:03:14,760 Speaker 3: by him. He's deeper than the deepest and turning around 77 00:03:14,800 --> 00:03:17,640 Speaker 3: and seeing the ball thrown. But then when I pulled up, 78 00:03:17,639 --> 00:03:19,360 Speaker 3: it's kind of like a javelin, you know, on the 79 00:03:19,400 --> 00:03:21,560 Speaker 3: move through it and got it there. I was gonna 80 00:03:21,560 --> 00:03:23,520 Speaker 3: look backside, but a linebacker was running at me, so 81 00:03:23,520 --> 00:03:25,960 Speaker 3: I didn't have time to look backside. I get outside, 82 00:03:26,000 --> 00:03:29,040 Speaker 3: I just let it launch to an area. I see 83 00:03:29,600 --> 00:03:32,000 Speaker 3: the two defenders go up and everybody just fall to 84 00:03:32,040 --> 00:03:34,480 Speaker 3: the ground, and there's a half second delay, and I 85 00:03:34,480 --> 00:03:35,800 Speaker 3: see an official's arms. 86 00:03:36,240 --> 00:03:37,360 Speaker 4: I'm like, you gotta be fuck. 87 00:03:38,760 --> 00:03:40,920 Speaker 3: I started laughing my ass off and started running towards 88 00:03:40,960 --> 00:03:43,440 Speaker 3: the pile, and I never got down there. There's a 89 00:03:43,480 --> 00:03:45,320 Speaker 3: great picture of Stee Tripillow. 90 00:03:44,880 --> 00:03:45,680 Speaker 4: With me in his arms. 91 00:03:45,680 --> 00:03:46,360 Speaker 1: I guess I jumped in. 92 00:03:47,240 --> 00:03:56,120 Speaker 3: And there's a better picture that I love me and 93 00:03:56,200 --> 00:03:59,160 Speaker 3: my brother's arms from the back of him with Flutio 94 00:03:59,160 --> 00:04:01,400 Speaker 3: in his jersey with my arm in near too. 95 00:04:01,760 --> 00:04:05,440 Speaker 2: Here's Bears Negerian on the history of the Patriots Jets rivalry. 96 00:04:06,040 --> 00:04:07,920 Speaker 5: To me, like, I think about this stuff, like the 97 00:04:07,960 --> 00:04:10,000 Speaker 5: history of rivalries, like I grew up in New York, 98 00:04:10,160 --> 00:04:12,360 Speaker 5: and like the Yankees and the Red Sox in the 99 00:04:12,360 --> 00:04:15,280 Speaker 5: old days, the seventies and the eighties when they're brawling 100 00:04:15,320 --> 00:04:18,960 Speaker 5: like legit brawls and games Thurman Muns and Carlton Fisk 101 00:04:19,040 --> 00:04:23,320 Speaker 5: and like Bruins Rangers fighting fans in the stands, Like 102 00:04:23,880 --> 00:04:27,280 Speaker 5: there was some serious rivalries going on. But this one 103 00:04:27,560 --> 00:04:30,000 Speaker 5: took it like to a different level because it wasn't 104 00:04:30,040 --> 00:04:31,640 Speaker 5: as much on the field. It was like the off 105 00:04:31,640 --> 00:04:34,320 Speaker 5: the field stuff, the off field drama with coaches and 106 00:04:34,920 --> 00:04:38,920 Speaker 5: front office and players switching teams and the whole New 107 00:04:39,000 --> 00:04:45,120 Speaker 5: York Boston rivalry. And even at that time, and I 108 00:04:45,160 --> 00:04:46,320 Speaker 5: know this because I was one of them. I grew 109 00:04:46,360 --> 00:04:48,320 Speaker 5: up in New York, went to school in Boston College 110 00:04:48,360 --> 00:04:50,080 Speaker 5: in Boston. There was a lot of that going on 111 00:04:50,279 --> 00:04:54,039 Speaker 5: in that eighties nineties, where there was an influx of 112 00:04:54,640 --> 00:04:57,279 Speaker 5: young people from New York going to college in Boston. 113 00:04:57,279 --> 00:05:00,000 Speaker 5: That brought a whole new kind of aspect to it 114 00:05:00,040 --> 00:05:03,760 Speaker 5: of the rivalry, and then this game was kind of 115 00:05:03,800 --> 00:05:04,919 Speaker 5: took it to the next level. 116 00:05:05,279 --> 00:05:08,719 Speaker 6: It's it's like I was trying to think of any 117 00:05:08,920 --> 00:05:11,599 Speaker 6: like how to equate it to a modern sort of 118 00:05:11,640 --> 00:05:14,480 Speaker 6: rivalry and just can't. Like with the coaching changes of 119 00:05:14,520 --> 00:05:16,280 Speaker 6: the players, change of the back and forth, like like. 120 00:05:16,279 --> 00:05:20,479 Speaker 1: Andy Reid going to the Raiders, it's just keep right 121 00:05:21,240 --> 00:05:21,520 Speaker 1: and then. 122 00:05:21,520 --> 00:05:25,159 Speaker 5: Being messy on his way out the Chiefs. And then 123 00:05:25,520 --> 00:05:29,599 Speaker 5: the best player then Mahomes having I was just a 124 00:05:29,640 --> 00:05:32,400 Speaker 5: quick little This is one thing with Curtis Martin. 125 00:05:32,440 --> 00:05:33,320 Speaker 1: It's on the Patriots. 126 00:05:33,320 --> 00:05:35,520 Speaker 5: It's like that had three years or two or three years, 127 00:05:35,640 --> 00:05:38,760 Speaker 5: you know, good play, very productive player, had some injuries. 128 00:05:39,000 --> 00:05:40,920 Speaker 5: You know, if there was a there was a contract 129 00:05:41,360 --> 00:05:43,800 Speaker 5: aspect going on where the Patriots going to sign them, 130 00:05:43,839 --> 00:05:47,960 Speaker 5: where they're not going to sign them. So Parcells loved 131 00:05:48,000 --> 00:05:52,320 Speaker 5: Curtis Martin from assignment the Patriots. So he signs Curtis 132 00:05:52,320 --> 00:05:54,120 Speaker 5: he was restricted free agent. He signs him to an 133 00:05:54,120 --> 00:05:57,120 Speaker 5: offer sheet to come to the Jets. Okay, in this 134 00:05:57,279 --> 00:06:00,479 Speaker 5: offer sheet, it says that Curtis Martin has to be 135 00:06:00,520 --> 00:06:02,640 Speaker 5: the highest paid player on a team. 136 00:06:02,839 --> 00:06:03,960 Speaker 7: I can't do this now. 137 00:06:04,720 --> 00:06:07,120 Speaker 5: And the Patriots couldn't match that because Bloodsoe was there 138 00:06:07,200 --> 00:06:09,360 Speaker 5: and he was you know, the Patriots didn't have an 139 00:06:09,440 --> 00:06:12,960 Speaker 5: established quarterback. It was Neil O'Donnell. The old from the 140 00:06:12,960 --> 00:06:20,479 Speaker 5: old regeam is Glenn Foley Boston College. 141 00:06:18,080 --> 00:06:19,920 Speaker 1: So they could do that. 142 00:06:19,920 --> 00:06:22,240 Speaker 5: That is since that's also one of the many rules 143 00:06:22,240 --> 00:06:24,520 Speaker 5: that have come up probably out of this rivalry as well, 144 00:06:24,640 --> 00:06:27,839 Speaker 5: is that that poison pill for in the contract. You 145 00:06:27,880 --> 00:06:28,800 Speaker 5: can't do that anymore. 146 00:06:29,040 --> 00:06:29,680 Speaker 1: So he went. 147 00:06:29,800 --> 00:06:32,720 Speaker 5: So Curtis Martin ended up going to the to the Jets, 148 00:06:33,200 --> 00:06:34,400 Speaker 5: having a Hall of Fame career. 149 00:06:34,600 --> 00:06:36,760 Speaker 7: Jesus, that's that's just one thing. 150 00:06:36,920 --> 00:06:39,680 Speaker 8: I mean, this game that we're covering is his highest rushing. 151 00:06:41,200 --> 00:06:44,080 Speaker 5: Touchdown, right, I think he had like seven carries on 152 00:06:44,160 --> 00:06:46,680 Speaker 5: the game when he drive in overtime in this game, 153 00:06:46,800 --> 00:06:49,440 Speaker 5: like the you know, the Patriots had a really good team. 154 00:06:50,120 --> 00:06:52,960 Speaker 5: Let's I'll give you one more. Who's on the sideline 155 00:06:52,960 --> 00:06:56,479 Speaker 5: in this game for the Patriots. Pete Carroll's the head coach. 156 00:06:56,600 --> 00:06:59,480 Speaker 5: Turned out to be quite a i mean higher then 157 00:06:59,600 --> 00:07:02,880 Speaker 5: and he's you know, National Championship of College super Bowl 158 00:07:02,880 --> 00:07:03,159 Speaker 5: on the end. 159 00:07:03,240 --> 00:07:04,320 Speaker 1: So a great coach. 160 00:07:04,360 --> 00:07:07,480 Speaker 7: Who a few years before head coach. 161 00:07:07,279 --> 00:07:09,920 Speaker 5: Of the Jets for one year. They fired him after 162 00:07:09,920 --> 00:07:11,720 Speaker 5: one year. So Pete Carroll was the head coach of 163 00:07:11,720 --> 00:07:13,960 Speaker 5: the Jets. People don't really talk about that as much 164 00:07:13,960 --> 00:07:15,680 Speaker 5: in this game, but you know, there's another one. 165 00:07:15,760 --> 00:07:17,520 Speaker 8: So I'd love your because I didn't realize that you 166 00:07:17,560 --> 00:07:21,440 Speaker 8: were in the Jets organization before Parcels came in. What 167 00:07:21,560 --> 00:07:24,800 Speaker 8: was the vibe, the buzz, what was going on from 168 00:07:24,840 --> 00:07:28,960 Speaker 8: the Jets perspective when Parcells started the remblings of potentially 169 00:07:29,160 --> 00:07:31,360 Speaker 8: joining the Jets while he was under contract with the Patriots. 170 00:07:31,480 --> 00:07:34,920 Speaker 5: From what I recall, it was, if you can get Parcels, 171 00:07:35,160 --> 00:07:37,240 Speaker 5: you get par sales. Now, remember the team is four 172 00:07:37,280 --> 00:07:40,560 Speaker 5: and twenty eight, so if it wasn't Parcels, it could 173 00:07:40,560 --> 00:07:43,800 Speaker 5: have been somebody else coming in, you know, as a 174 00:07:43,840 --> 00:07:47,560 Speaker 5: new head coach anyway. But if you get Parcels, that 175 00:07:47,600 --> 00:07:51,239 Speaker 5: instant credibility right away and whatever he wants he gets, 176 00:07:51,400 --> 00:07:53,080 Speaker 5: and he was gonna do and you're gonna get better. 177 00:07:53,160 --> 00:07:55,520 Speaker 5: Team was in the NFC Championship game the next year, 178 00:07:56,120 --> 00:07:59,480 Speaker 5: twelve and four season. But yeah, that game, the Patriots 179 00:07:59,480 --> 00:08:03,320 Speaker 5: were good, the Jets were not good, so the pressure 180 00:08:03,440 --> 00:08:05,440 Speaker 5: was all on the Patriots. You gotta win this game, 181 00:08:05,480 --> 00:08:08,440 Speaker 5: you can't let this guy leave the way he left 182 00:08:09,480 --> 00:08:13,120 Speaker 5: and come back. Week three, National TV, Patriots are two 183 00:08:13,160 --> 00:08:16,840 Speaker 5: and zero and win like that would have been disastrous. 184 00:08:17,000 --> 00:08:20,760 Speaker 5: So the Patriots had to win that game and barely did. 185 00:08:21,960 --> 00:08:24,400 Speaker 5: I mean they were a better team, but took a 186 00:08:24,440 --> 00:08:29,840 Speaker 5: lot of body blows on the way. It's like Rocky one, 187 00:08:30,400 --> 00:08:35,560 Speaker 5: Rocky Rocky won, Apollo wins, but a lot. 188 00:08:35,679 --> 00:08:39,000 Speaker 1: Was that week of practice and prep. How was that 189 00:08:39,120 --> 00:08:40,400 Speaker 1: week in New York? 190 00:08:40,520 --> 00:08:43,760 Speaker 5: In New York it wasn't nearly what it was I 191 00:08:43,800 --> 00:08:46,440 Speaker 5: think up here, because you like all the information was 192 00:08:46,440 --> 00:08:50,000 Speaker 5: there like a newspaper and you know, the radio, like 193 00:08:50,040 --> 00:08:51,520 Speaker 5: that was it. You could tell like up here it 194 00:08:51,559 --> 00:08:54,880 Speaker 5: meant everything down there was like the team's just kind 195 00:08:54,880 --> 00:08:57,560 Speaker 5: of getting started. Here try and try not to piss 196 00:08:57,640 --> 00:08:59,880 Speaker 5: him off. I personally, because I was into this stuff, 197 00:08:59,920 --> 00:09:01,560 Speaker 5: like I wanted to win. I wanted to win it 198 00:09:01,600 --> 00:09:03,280 Speaker 5: for him because I knew it was a big deal 199 00:09:03,920 --> 00:09:07,080 Speaker 5: for that. But within the team, I think they could 200 00:09:07,080 --> 00:09:09,800 Speaker 5: sense it. You know, once the busses are getting pelted, 201 00:09:09,880 --> 00:09:12,680 Speaker 5: like the Jets, busses didn't get pelted very much at 202 00:09:12,720 --> 00:09:15,800 Speaker 5: one in fifteen, Like one and fifteen, buses don't get pelted. 203 00:09:17,040 --> 00:09:19,760 Speaker 2: Now Bill Bird talks the greatness of Lawrence Taylor. 204 00:09:20,280 --> 00:09:22,680 Speaker 9: Did you see that recent one let Lawrence Taylor drove 205 00:09:22,760 --> 00:09:24,719 Speaker 9: by Giants Stadium. You saw the lights on him and 206 00:09:24,720 --> 00:09:26,800 Speaker 9: he's like, oh fuck, I have a game. Yeah, and 207 00:09:26,920 --> 00:09:28,160 Speaker 9: showed up in the first quarter. 208 00:09:28,600 --> 00:09:31,560 Speaker 1: He showed up late. They benched him for a series 209 00:09:31,600 --> 00:09:32,800 Speaker 1: and then he went out and I think he had 210 00:09:32,840 --> 00:09:33,760 Speaker 1: like seven sacks. 211 00:09:33,760 --> 00:09:35,880 Speaker 7: All right, I'm gonna tell a story. 212 00:09:35,960 --> 00:09:38,240 Speaker 9: Okay, I don't feel like I'm talking out out of 213 00:09:38,280 --> 00:09:41,200 Speaker 9: school here, because this is this is uh, this is 214 00:09:41,200 --> 00:09:45,040 Speaker 9: a funny story. So I'm doing inside the NFL. Phil 215 00:09:45,080 --> 00:09:48,000 Speaker 9: Simms is on the show and Lawrence Taylor is coming in. 216 00:09:48,240 --> 00:09:54,120 Speaker 9: So it's Philed, Chris Collinsworth, Lawrence Taylor, and me. Right, 217 00:09:54,160 --> 00:09:56,160 Speaker 9: I mean one of those classic like what in the 218 00:09:56,160 --> 00:09:57,040 Speaker 9: hell am I doing here? 219 00:09:57,120 --> 00:09:57,320 Speaker 1: Right? 220 00:09:57,880 --> 00:10:01,520 Speaker 9: So Lawrence hasn't showed up yet, So Phil tells me 221 00:10:01,559 --> 00:10:03,959 Speaker 9: a story. I can't believe Lawrence Taylor is going to 222 00:10:04,000 --> 00:10:06,000 Speaker 9: be here. I mean that guy was just like he 223 00:10:06,160 --> 00:10:08,000 Speaker 9: literally changed the game, and I was just going on 224 00:10:08,040 --> 00:10:09,439 Speaker 9: and on about him. He goes, you know what's funny 225 00:10:09,440 --> 00:10:11,800 Speaker 9: about that guy? He goes, he didn't even know the 226 00:10:11,920 --> 00:10:14,800 Speaker 9: names of the teams in the leagues. I go get 227 00:10:14,800 --> 00:10:16,160 Speaker 9: the fuck out of here. He goes, yeah, he goes. 228 00:10:16,200 --> 00:10:19,880 Speaker 9: One time, he goes, we were we won some game. 229 00:10:19,920 --> 00:10:22,080 Speaker 9: They were on the road, and they're on the team plane. 230 00:10:22,080 --> 00:10:24,960 Speaker 9: They're all hyped and Lawrence is psyched. And Phil goes, yeah, 231 00:10:24,960 --> 00:10:27,520 Speaker 9: hey man, you know, if the Redskins lose, then we're 232 00:10:27,559 --> 00:10:29,360 Speaker 9: going to be in first place in our division. And 233 00:10:29,440 --> 00:10:32,200 Speaker 9: Lawrence goes, uh oh, yeah, he goes. He goes, who's 234 00:10:32,200 --> 00:10:34,920 Speaker 9: in our division? And Phil goes, you don't know who's 235 00:10:34,920 --> 00:10:36,480 Speaker 9: in our division? And he goes, man, I don't give 236 00:10:36,480 --> 00:10:38,920 Speaker 9: a shit, right, And I'm thinking, like that is the 237 00:10:39,040 --> 00:10:41,880 Speaker 9: genius that he love him. Let's say, I don't need 238 00:10:41,960 --> 00:10:45,160 Speaker 9: extra information in my head. You have a different uniform 239 00:10:45,200 --> 00:10:47,880 Speaker 9: than me, I'm going to ruin your day. So I 240 00:10:47,920 --> 00:10:50,160 Speaker 9: thought it was a hilarious story. But as always, you know, 241 00:10:50,200 --> 00:10:51,760 Speaker 9: you think maybe he put a little mustard on it 242 00:10:51,880 --> 00:10:55,800 Speaker 9: or whatever. Ten minutes later, Lawrence Taylor comes walking in. 243 00:10:55,920 --> 00:10:58,360 Speaker 9: Him and Phil both just start laughing, which was great. 244 00:10:58,400 --> 00:11:00,880 Speaker 9: They just saw each other. They start laughing, hugged and everything. 245 00:11:00,920 --> 00:11:02,640 Speaker 9: You just know all the shit that they did back then. 246 00:11:02,640 --> 00:11:05,640 Speaker 9: Who knows, right, So Laurence sits down and he starts 247 00:11:05,640 --> 00:11:08,440 Speaker 9: telling stories. Right, they just start telling things and in 248 00:11:08,480 --> 00:11:10,240 Speaker 9: the middle of one story goes me, he goes, we 249 00:11:10,280 --> 00:11:13,079 Speaker 9: were down in UH, down in New Orleans. Then we 250 00:11:13,080 --> 00:11:15,439 Speaker 9: would play in the UH And he goes, Phil, what's 251 00:11:15,440 --> 00:11:16,839 Speaker 9: the name of that team in New Orleans? And he 252 00:11:16,880 --> 00:11:18,800 Speaker 9: goes to the Saints. He goes, you're play in the Saints. 253 00:11:19,400 --> 00:11:23,960 Speaker 9: It was unbelievable. And then fat sports writers would would 254 00:11:24,160 --> 00:11:26,320 Speaker 9: would say that, you know, they would say that he 255 00:11:26,360 --> 00:11:27,839 Speaker 9: wasn't smart, he was blah blah. It's like that's like 256 00:11:27,840 --> 00:11:30,319 Speaker 9: some Einstein shit. I'm wearing the same shit every day, 257 00:11:30,480 --> 00:11:32,880 Speaker 9: so my brain doesn't I only need to worry about 258 00:11:32,960 --> 00:11:35,160 Speaker 9: like you know, you hear all those stories how he 259 00:11:35,200 --> 00:11:37,640 Speaker 9: would sleep through meetings and then get up and diagram 260 00:11:37,679 --> 00:11:39,520 Speaker 9: the whole play or they would ask him if it 261 00:11:39,559 --> 00:11:39,920 Speaker 9: was okay. 262 00:11:39,960 --> 00:11:44,200 Speaker 7: The guy is like a fucking divan genius. Genius. 263 00:11:44,200 --> 00:11:47,560 Speaker 9: But the fact that he didn't even know, like the 264 00:11:47,600 --> 00:11:49,720 Speaker 9: fact that he's almost like a housewife in the level 265 00:11:49,720 --> 00:11:51,600 Speaker 9: that he doesn't know the names of the teams yet 266 00:11:51,640 --> 00:11:55,679 Speaker 9: he's the most alpha dominating player that I ever saw. 267 00:11:56,920 --> 00:11:58,800 Speaker 9: But you know why he seems like he fell out 268 00:11:58,800 --> 00:12:04,000 Speaker 9: of the sky is because his favorite player was Hollywood Henderson. Yeah, 269 00:12:04,360 --> 00:12:07,679 Speaker 9: and he was sort of he was like, Hollywood Henderson 270 00:12:07,920 --> 00:12:11,640 Speaker 9: was the gap as far as the linebacking position between 271 00:12:11,760 --> 00:12:14,960 Speaker 9: like you know, Dick Buckis in that era and him. 272 00:12:15,080 --> 00:12:16,559 Speaker 7: He came and it looked like he was an alien. 273 00:12:16,600 --> 00:12:20,160 Speaker 9: It was because unfortunately, Hollywood Henderson had like substance abuse 274 00:12:20,160 --> 00:12:23,040 Speaker 9: problems and it affected his career. But one of the 275 00:12:23,040 --> 00:12:28,640 Speaker 9: greatest play another underrated play nineteen seventy six. The Steelers 276 00:12:28,679 --> 00:12:32,760 Speaker 9: are playing the Cowboys and the Steelers kick off. 277 00:12:32,840 --> 00:12:35,199 Speaker 7: Guess who receives it. Hollywood Henderson. 278 00:12:35,240 --> 00:12:38,760 Speaker 9: They had a linebacker receiving their kick in nineteen seventy six, 279 00:12:38,880 --> 00:12:41,679 Speaker 9: like that just didn't happen, and he took it all 280 00:12:41,760 --> 00:12:44,839 Speaker 9: the way down the field to like they're forty five 281 00:12:45,040 --> 00:12:47,840 Speaker 9: and Roy Jirella, their kicker, just sort of dove like 282 00:12:47,880 --> 00:12:52,000 Speaker 9: that and his linebacker knee hit his ribs, broke them, Yeah, 283 00:12:52,040 --> 00:12:54,040 Speaker 9: and fucked him up for the game. And it's a 284 00:12:54,080 --> 00:12:55,760 Speaker 9: really hard game to watch him you're a Cowboys fan, 285 00:12:55,840 --> 00:12:58,959 Speaker 9: because they were running reverses, I think that's what it was. 286 00:12:59,200 --> 00:13:01,800 Speaker 9: A reverse on the on the on the kickoff, and 287 00:13:01,840 --> 00:13:03,520 Speaker 9: they were doing all of this shit and then they 288 00:13:03,559 --> 00:13:05,640 Speaker 9: got up and then they just sat on the ball 289 00:13:06,360 --> 00:13:08,360 Speaker 9: and the Steelers kept playing, and then they came back 290 00:13:08,400 --> 00:13:09,960 Speaker 9: and beat them. 291 00:13:10,280 --> 00:13:12,120 Speaker 1: Man, how does it feel to be that old to 292 00:13:12,160 --> 00:13:14,679 Speaker 1: remember a nineteen seventy six game that great? 293 00:13:14,880 --> 00:13:17,200 Speaker 7: I watched it on YouTube. The first one I watched 294 00:13:18,200 --> 00:13:19,320 Speaker 7: was seventy eight. 295 00:13:20,120 --> 00:13:21,600 Speaker 4: What's the first game you remember watching? 296 00:13:21,800 --> 00:13:25,200 Speaker 9: You know some OJ Simpson was playing in like the 297 00:13:25,240 --> 00:13:28,200 Speaker 9: early seventies, and my Yeah, my dad's screaming at the 298 00:13:28,240 --> 00:13:30,240 Speaker 9: TV or something. 299 00:13:30,320 --> 00:13:33,560 Speaker 7: My grandfather going, uh, you know, he's the old days. 300 00:13:33,559 --> 00:13:37,880 Speaker 9: He's like packing a pipe to smoke it inside. 301 00:13:38,280 --> 00:13:39,360 Speaker 1: The Sherlock Holmes. 302 00:13:40,360 --> 00:13:43,600 Speaker 2: Next up, Ed O'Neil tells his wild story about getting 303 00:13:43,600 --> 00:13:44,880 Speaker 2: cut from the Pittsburgh Steelers. 304 00:13:45,240 --> 00:13:47,840 Speaker 10: This was not too long after I got cut. Yeah, 305 00:13:47,920 --> 00:13:51,360 Speaker 10: so I was still following things pretty closely. And you know, 306 00:13:51,440 --> 00:13:53,720 Speaker 10: I knew all about Frank Ohrris and those guys because 307 00:13:53,720 --> 00:13:56,679 Speaker 10: they came a year after I got cut. And when 308 00:13:56,720 --> 00:13:58,520 Speaker 10: I got cut, I said, I got cut. I had 309 00:13:58,520 --> 00:14:00,840 Speaker 10: a cup of coffee with them. Basically, Yeah, that's about it. 310 00:14:01,800 --> 00:14:03,960 Speaker 10: But yeah, so I was still, you know, sitting in 311 00:14:03,960 --> 00:14:07,079 Speaker 10: the bar with my buddies watching these games. Yeah, and 312 00:14:07,520 --> 00:14:09,160 Speaker 10: glad I wasn't playing at that point. 313 00:14:09,360 --> 00:14:12,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, well you had to be vested because you got 314 00:14:12,240 --> 00:14:14,240 Speaker 1: drafted with me and Joe Green. You got drafted with 315 00:14:14,280 --> 00:14:17,960 Speaker 1: a lot of these pro football Hall of famers, and 316 00:14:18,040 --> 00:14:20,320 Speaker 1: so you got to enjoy. And it was Chuck noles 317 00:14:20,360 --> 00:14:20,840 Speaker 1: first year. 318 00:14:20,800 --> 00:14:22,960 Speaker 4: Right, it was Nole's first year, and so. 319 00:14:22,920 --> 00:14:25,840 Speaker 1: You got to you had his first training camp, and 320 00:14:25,880 --> 00:14:27,840 Speaker 1: you got to know these people. So you get vested 321 00:14:27,880 --> 00:14:31,040 Speaker 1: because you have relationships with these guys. Huh. 322 00:14:31,120 --> 00:14:33,640 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean it was, uh, you know, it was. 323 00:14:34,160 --> 00:14:37,000 Speaker 10: It was very intense. You know you've been to those camps. 324 00:14:37,040 --> 00:14:39,120 Speaker 10: I mean I didn't make a whole lot of friends. 325 00:14:40,000 --> 00:14:44,280 Speaker 10: It was a job, yes, but it was it was fun. 326 00:14:44,320 --> 00:14:48,240 Speaker 10: I actually enjoyed it. Yeah, as opposed to college. I mean, 327 00:14:48,720 --> 00:14:50,920 Speaker 10: you know, I don't know why you would think it 328 00:14:50,920 --> 00:14:54,160 Speaker 10: would be the opposite, but I actually enjoyed the training 329 00:14:54,240 --> 00:14:54,680 Speaker 10: down there. 330 00:14:55,280 --> 00:14:55,560 Speaker 4: Yeah. 331 00:14:56,000 --> 00:14:58,480 Speaker 1: You know what people don't realize because I was a 332 00:14:58,600 --> 00:14:59,800 Speaker 1: very similar situation. 333 00:15:00,120 --> 00:15:00,240 Speaker 10: You. 334 00:15:00,240 --> 00:15:03,760 Speaker 1: You're a priority free agent, so they sined you exactly. Yeah. 335 00:15:03,880 --> 00:15:05,720 Speaker 1: I was a seventh round draft pick, which is the 336 00:15:05,760 --> 00:15:08,600 Speaker 1: last round of our draft, which some would argue it's 337 00:15:08,640 --> 00:15:10,960 Speaker 1: better to be a free agent because you get two 338 00:15:11,040 --> 00:15:15,160 Speaker 1: years contract instead of locking in for a third and 339 00:15:15,200 --> 00:15:18,680 Speaker 1: you're a quarterback. I was a quarterback. But the mental 340 00:15:18,760 --> 00:15:22,720 Speaker 1: aspect when you're on the team and there's ninety guys, 341 00:15:22,720 --> 00:15:25,280 Speaker 1: they got to cut it down to fifty three. And 342 00:15:25,320 --> 00:15:27,040 Speaker 1: you're sitting where you did you used to play the 343 00:15:27,160 --> 00:15:29,880 Speaker 1: numbers game, You're sitting in training camp. Well, they're going 344 00:15:29,960 --> 00:15:31,920 Speaker 1: to keep this guy. They're going to keep that guy. 345 00:15:32,120 --> 00:15:32,320 Speaker 4: Yeah. 346 00:15:32,360 --> 00:15:35,120 Speaker 10: I had a situation where, you know, I don't know 347 00:15:35,120 --> 00:15:38,040 Speaker 10: if yours was the same as ours, but ours the 348 00:15:38,080 --> 00:15:41,040 Speaker 10: Steelers they would put a board up and if your 349 00:15:41,160 --> 00:15:44,480 Speaker 10: name wasn't on it, you were cut. So it's kind 350 00:15:44,480 --> 00:15:46,320 Speaker 10: of a nice way to do it. You don't see 351 00:15:46,320 --> 00:15:49,680 Speaker 10: your name as this guy got cut. You know, people 352 00:15:49,680 --> 00:15:51,400 Speaker 10: don't know you. They don't even know you got cut. 353 00:15:51,680 --> 00:15:56,240 Speaker 1: And it's completely changed nowadays. Nowadays, you'll be sitting in 354 00:15:56,240 --> 00:15:58,360 Speaker 1: the locker room and they have this guy with everyone 355 00:15:58,440 --> 00:16:01,280 Speaker 1: calls the Turk. It's probably like, uh, he's like an 356 00:16:01,320 --> 00:16:05,160 Speaker 1: offensive assistant of assistant of another assistant. And he comes 357 00:16:05,240 --> 00:16:07,360 Speaker 1: up to your locker and he taps on your shoulder. 358 00:16:07,400 --> 00:16:09,200 Speaker 1: He says, hey, head coach wants to see you bring 359 00:16:09,200 --> 00:16:09,760 Speaker 1: your playbook. 360 00:16:09,760 --> 00:16:10,440 Speaker 4: Oh no, I had that. 361 00:16:10,600 --> 00:16:13,000 Speaker 10: Oh see they went to they went through when it 362 00:16:13,040 --> 00:16:16,360 Speaker 10: started out, they had so many guys they cut the 363 00:16:16,360 --> 00:16:19,040 Speaker 10: way I just mentioned. But then if you got along 364 00:16:19,920 --> 00:16:22,880 Speaker 10: some then it turned into uh, oh, by the way, 365 00:16:22,960 --> 00:16:25,080 Speaker 10: uh coach snow would like to see you in his 366 00:16:25,160 --> 00:16:26,400 Speaker 10: office and bring your playbook. 367 00:16:26,440 --> 00:16:27,240 Speaker 4: That's what happened to me. 368 00:16:27,440 --> 00:16:27,880 Speaker 3: Geez. 369 00:16:28,480 --> 00:16:30,480 Speaker 4: Yeah, So but then there you know how nice they 370 00:16:30,480 --> 00:16:31,360 Speaker 4: are to you when you're. 371 00:16:31,200 --> 00:16:33,320 Speaker 1: Going there, you know we're going a different route. You know, 372 00:16:33,360 --> 00:16:35,440 Speaker 1: you're just not well with me. 373 00:16:35,520 --> 00:16:39,440 Speaker 10: It was, well, you never played outside linebacker and you're 374 00:16:39,480 --> 00:16:41,840 Speaker 10: trying to make the team and learn the position at 375 00:16:41,840 --> 00:16:42,400 Speaker 10: the same time. 376 00:16:42,440 --> 00:16:44,360 Speaker 4: That's hard to do. I said, yeah. 377 00:16:44,520 --> 00:16:47,280 Speaker 10: He said, well I think they I think. I think 378 00:16:47,320 --> 00:16:49,280 Speaker 10: I remember it as well. You can go to the 379 00:16:49,360 --> 00:16:51,400 Speaker 10: Eagles if you want to and have don't give you. 380 00:16:51,400 --> 00:16:52,040 Speaker 4: A good look. 381 00:16:52,480 --> 00:16:54,320 Speaker 10: We'll rent a car for you. You can drive down 382 00:16:54,360 --> 00:16:57,480 Speaker 10: the PA Pike. But I need to know right now. 383 00:16:58,320 --> 00:17:00,600 Speaker 10: And I don't know what happened to my thinking. It 384 00:17:00,640 --> 00:17:03,880 Speaker 10: was like, you're gonna what I want to drive a 385 00:17:03,920 --> 00:17:06,359 Speaker 10: car a Philadelphia. 386 00:17:06,480 --> 00:17:08,880 Speaker 4: No, I said, I'm done, I'm finished. Thanks a lot. 387 00:17:09,240 --> 00:17:12,520 Speaker 10: Wow, that was it, But I was getting sick of it, 388 00:17:12,560 --> 00:17:15,560 Speaker 10: to be honest with you, I played for two colleges. 389 00:17:16,320 --> 00:17:19,280 Speaker 10: I had some knee problems, and I just I don't 390 00:17:19,280 --> 00:17:21,600 Speaker 10: know what it was. I didn't even like coach as much, 391 00:17:21,680 --> 00:17:24,159 Speaker 10: you know, I got I didn't I like Noel. He 392 00:17:24,280 --> 00:17:25,879 Speaker 10: was well, I didn't get to know him much, but 393 00:17:25,920 --> 00:17:27,760 Speaker 10: he was a real gentleman, and I thought he was 394 00:17:27,760 --> 00:17:30,840 Speaker 10: a nice guy. He was, but I had coaches in college. 395 00:17:30,880 --> 00:17:34,119 Speaker 10: I didn't like it all in high school too. I 396 00:17:34,160 --> 00:17:35,520 Speaker 10: had to start thinking maybe. 397 00:17:35,280 --> 00:17:39,119 Speaker 4: It was my fault. It was to that point, gee, 398 00:17:39,119 --> 00:17:41,119 Speaker 4: I was finished. I said. He said, well, what are 399 00:17:41,119 --> 00:17:42,240 Speaker 4: you going to do? I said, I don't know, but 400 00:17:42,320 --> 00:17:42,680 Speaker 4: not this. 401 00:17:43,440 --> 00:17:45,720 Speaker 10: And then I remember when I went to my back 402 00:17:45,760 --> 00:17:47,119 Speaker 10: to the dorm room. I had a you know, I 403 00:17:47,119 --> 00:17:50,920 Speaker 10: had a roommate. His name was Clarence Oliver San Diego State. 404 00:17:50,960 --> 00:17:54,159 Speaker 10: He made the team as a defensive back, and uh 405 00:17:55,400 --> 00:17:57,359 Speaker 10: he only played one year. I think he broke his back, 406 00:17:58,240 --> 00:18:01,320 Speaker 10: but he made it. But I went in and he 407 00:18:01,400 --> 00:18:04,160 Speaker 10: was like, what happened? What do you think? 408 00:18:04,680 --> 00:18:07,639 Speaker 4: So I was backing up and the guy came in, 409 00:18:07,840 --> 00:18:08,320 Speaker 4: you know, they. 410 00:18:08,240 --> 00:18:10,200 Speaker 10: Said, well, the car's out there. Where do you want 411 00:18:10,200 --> 00:18:14,080 Speaker 10: to go? And I said, Pittsburgh. I'm not from Pittsburgh, 412 00:18:14,560 --> 00:18:16,320 Speaker 10: and I but I knew a guy I knew a 413 00:18:16,359 --> 00:18:19,240 Speaker 10: friend in Pittsburgh. So I said, now I'm going to Pittsburgh, 414 00:18:19,280 --> 00:18:21,720 Speaker 10: and he says, okay, we'll drive you to Pittsburgh. You 415 00:18:21,720 --> 00:18:24,000 Speaker 10: know it's not too it's Latrobe. 416 00:18:23,359 --> 00:18:23,560 Speaker 1: Yah. 417 00:18:24,600 --> 00:18:26,960 Speaker 10: So he said, we'll swing by the stadium on the 418 00:18:27,000 --> 00:18:30,280 Speaker 10: way out because your cleats are there in the locker, 419 00:18:31,440 --> 00:18:33,159 Speaker 10: and we got a lot of swag for you. We 420 00:18:33,280 --> 00:18:36,080 Speaker 10: got great jerseys and T shirts and hats and shorts. 421 00:18:36,080 --> 00:18:37,400 Speaker 10: And I said, I don't want any of that shit. 422 00:18:37,880 --> 00:18:39,800 Speaker 10: He said, you don't want the it's good stuff. 423 00:18:39,840 --> 00:18:40,479 Speaker 4: I don't want it. 424 00:18:40,600 --> 00:18:41,840 Speaker 1: I'm going to wear it. 425 00:18:42,080 --> 00:18:42,880 Speaker 4: I'm not wearing it. 426 00:18:43,680 --> 00:18:45,240 Speaker 10: I don't want the cleats either, I'm not going to 427 00:18:45,359 --> 00:18:49,919 Speaker 10: use them anymore. So he took me into Pittsburgh and 428 00:18:49,960 --> 00:18:52,960 Speaker 10: I had this rudimentary idea of where my friend lived. 429 00:18:53,720 --> 00:18:55,280 Speaker 4: So I was trying. I didn't want to go home. 430 00:18:55,680 --> 00:18:58,720 Speaker 10: Yeah, it was what it was. So I why didn't 431 00:18:58,760 --> 00:19:00,560 Speaker 10: you want to go home? You know, I mean, that 432 00:19:00,640 --> 00:19:02,080 Speaker 10: was all screwed up. I thought, I don't want to 433 00:19:02,080 --> 00:19:05,400 Speaker 10: go home and have to explain this. So I said 434 00:19:06,119 --> 00:19:09,560 Speaker 10: it was still in the summertime. So I directed them 435 00:19:09,640 --> 00:19:11,560 Speaker 10: up a street and I saw a bar. It was 436 00:19:11,600 --> 00:19:14,359 Speaker 10: a local bar with the door open the summertime. The 437 00:19:14,400 --> 00:19:17,720 Speaker 10: door's no air, you know, the door was open. I said, 438 00:19:17,800 --> 00:19:20,320 Speaker 10: right here, my friend lives right around that bar. Just 439 00:19:20,400 --> 00:19:21,240 Speaker 10: drop me off here. 440 00:19:21,960 --> 00:19:22,560 Speaker 1: You sure, you know? 441 00:19:22,600 --> 00:19:26,320 Speaker 4: They kind of said, yeah, give me the bag audios. 442 00:19:26,359 --> 00:19:28,639 Speaker 10: So I went in the bar and it was like 443 00:19:28,640 --> 00:19:30,720 Speaker 10: two o'clock in the afternoon, and there were like a 444 00:19:30,760 --> 00:19:32,880 Speaker 10: couple of you know, locals. 445 00:19:32,880 --> 00:19:33,840 Speaker 4: It was a local joint. 446 00:19:33,880 --> 00:19:33,960 Speaker 1: Ye. 447 00:19:35,320 --> 00:19:37,760 Speaker 10: So I walk in. I'm twenty three years old. They 448 00:19:37,800 --> 00:19:40,720 Speaker 10: don't know me. I'm a stranger in this neighborhood and. 449 00:19:40,720 --> 00:19:41,720 Speaker 4: They're look, was this good? 450 00:19:42,680 --> 00:19:44,960 Speaker 10: I order a beer and they got the TV up high, 451 00:19:45,000 --> 00:19:48,280 Speaker 10: you know, on the wall, and we're watching it, and 452 00:19:48,320 --> 00:19:53,280 Speaker 10: the the news comes on and they're showing Armstrong walking 453 00:19:53,359 --> 00:19:53,920 Speaker 10: on the moon. 454 00:19:54,520 --> 00:19:54,920 Speaker 1: Wow. 455 00:19:55,160 --> 00:19:58,560 Speaker 10: That's when I got cut. And I'm thinking, well, if 456 00:19:58,560 --> 00:20:02,640 Speaker 10: somebody had a good day, he had the golf club right, 457 00:20:03,040 --> 00:20:05,720 Speaker 10: And I'm watching it, and then they went to the 458 00:20:05,760 --> 00:20:10,600 Speaker 10: sports and of course it's Pittsburgh. So they go linebacker 459 00:20:10,720 --> 00:20:13,840 Speaker 10: Ed O'Neill released today from the Steelers, and there's my 460 00:20:13,920 --> 00:20:16,680 Speaker 10: picture and these guys are in the in the bar 461 00:20:17,240 --> 00:20:17,800 Speaker 10: and they look. 462 00:20:18,960 --> 00:20:24,720 Speaker 4: They go, you're at O'Neill. Yeah, yeah, And they. 463 00:20:24,680 --> 00:20:28,000 Speaker 10: Said your money's no good here now they're all buying 464 00:20:28,040 --> 00:20:30,560 Speaker 10: me drinks. I end up at three o'clock in the 465 00:20:30,560 --> 00:20:35,600 Speaker 10: morning and some some car with some girl with a 466 00:20:35,640 --> 00:20:39,480 Speaker 10: state hoopie pulling me over. You know, I don't even 467 00:20:39,560 --> 00:20:42,840 Speaker 10: know my name at this point. And the guy looks 468 00:20:42,880 --> 00:20:45,199 Speaker 10: in and I think I had my shirt off, and 469 00:20:46,200 --> 00:20:49,560 Speaker 10: you know, that was almost naked. And I'm driving though, 470 00:20:49,600 --> 00:20:53,520 Speaker 10: and he says, you know, I had my drivers. He said, 471 00:20:53,520 --> 00:20:56,440 Speaker 10: did you get cut today from Pittsburgh? I said yep. 472 00:20:57,480 --> 00:21:01,399 Speaker 10: He said, miss can you drive? She said, yeah, he 473 00:21:01,560 --> 00:21:04,800 Speaker 10: just he's just driving around. Then he said, can you 474 00:21:04,880 --> 00:21:06,920 Speaker 10: drive this guy home? And she said, I'll take him. 475 00:21:07,000 --> 00:21:10,119 Speaker 10: He says he knows somebody and he's letting him go 476 00:21:11,040 --> 00:21:11,960 Speaker 10: because it was you. 477 00:21:11,880 --> 00:21:14,720 Speaker 1: Know, it was Pittsburgh, Pittsbury Steelers. They love them Steelers. 478 00:21:14,800 --> 00:21:16,359 Speaker 4: Even if you got cut, it doesn't make it. 479 00:21:16,680 --> 00:21:18,840 Speaker 1: You're still part of the team. You're still part of 480 00:21:18,880 --> 00:21:19,200 Speaker 1: the team. 481 00:21:19,200 --> 00:21:19,560 Speaker 10: Anyway. 482 00:21:19,600 --> 00:21:21,920 Speaker 4: That's my I don't think i've told that story ever. 483 00:21:22,480 --> 00:21:25,760 Speaker 6: Next, Terry Bradshaw tells us about a crazy fight that 484 00:21:25,840 --> 00:21:27,240 Speaker 6: broke out at Steelers practice. 485 00:21:27,720 --> 00:21:31,600 Speaker 11: Why in practice one day I threw a pass and 486 00:21:32,200 --> 00:21:35,080 Speaker 11: for some reason he man at John Cob or something. 487 00:21:35,080 --> 00:21:36,200 Speaker 4: He came through and. 488 00:21:36,119 --> 00:21:40,480 Speaker 11: He decked me, knocked me back over, ask kettle, helmet 489 00:21:40,560 --> 00:21:45,240 Speaker 11: flew off, practice practice, and then we practiced in full pash. 490 00:21:45,320 --> 00:21:48,960 Speaker 11: I found the football and I got off bom through it. 491 00:21:49,040 --> 00:21:53,560 Speaker 11: I've tried to kill him. Nobody chuck nole. He's probably 492 00:21:53,920 --> 00:21:56,040 Speaker 11: he didn't mind it. But I have to shit knocked 493 00:21:56,040 --> 00:21:59,359 Speaker 11: out of me. Boss pissed. He came over and I 494 00:21:59,400 --> 00:22:03,879 Speaker 11: said me something, mad Dog, you may lose with me, 495 00:22:04,440 --> 00:22:06,280 Speaker 11: but you never win without me. 496 00:22:06,440 --> 00:22:07,160 Speaker 7: You got that. 497 00:22:08,000 --> 00:22:10,960 Speaker 11: And I walked over a steaming I said, tik my 498 00:22:11,040 --> 00:22:13,960 Speaker 11: helmet off, y'all sit on your helmets and practice, and 499 00:22:14,119 --> 00:22:16,560 Speaker 11: we did. I said on my helmet, I'm over there 500 00:22:16,600 --> 00:22:20,400 Speaker 11: and none. I'm mad because nobody got in a fight. 501 00:22:20,520 --> 00:22:21,679 Speaker 11: Nobody fought for me. 502 00:22:21,800 --> 00:22:22,520 Speaker 1: Maybe that's it. 503 00:22:23,080 --> 00:22:24,879 Speaker 4: Nobody gave me shit. I don't know what. 504 00:22:25,520 --> 00:22:28,919 Speaker 11: I'm over by myself. And here comes mad Dog. He 505 00:22:29,000 --> 00:22:31,600 Speaker 11: comes over and he kind of had that high pitch. 506 00:22:33,560 --> 00:22:34,320 Speaker 6: What were that guy? 507 00:22:34,359 --> 00:22:35,119 Speaker 7: Give me that saying? 508 00:22:35,240 --> 00:22:36,000 Speaker 1: What was that saying? 509 00:22:36,800 --> 00:22:37,879 Speaker 4: What are you talking about? 510 00:22:38,000 --> 00:22:39,639 Speaker 7: You know what that saying? You threw it about? What 511 00:22:39,680 --> 00:22:40,040 Speaker 7: you said? 512 00:22:40,040 --> 00:22:41,040 Speaker 1: What what was that you said? 513 00:22:41,160 --> 00:22:44,080 Speaker 7: Huh? And he had his tooth missing, and I said 514 00:22:44,640 --> 00:22:45,080 Speaker 7: I don't. 515 00:22:45,000 --> 00:22:45,520 Speaker 1: What you're talking you. 516 00:22:45,920 --> 00:22:49,080 Speaker 11: You said, Tom Bob, we're gonna win, may lose, I said, 517 00:22:49,880 --> 00:22:52,159 Speaker 11: And I got to thinking, what did I say? 518 00:22:52,320 --> 00:22:53,640 Speaker 7: And so he sat out. 519 00:22:53,880 --> 00:22:55,520 Speaker 11: The next thing I know, it's like, hey, pull up 520 00:22:55,520 --> 00:22:56,880 Speaker 11: a chair, pull up a helmet. 521 00:22:57,560 --> 00:23:00,520 Speaker 7: So we started going, okay, you not me down. 522 00:23:01,200 --> 00:23:04,280 Speaker 11: I got pissed. I hit you with the football. You 523 00:23:04,320 --> 00:23:06,440 Speaker 11: came at me. I pointed at you. 524 00:23:06,800 --> 00:23:07,920 Speaker 4: And what did I say? 525 00:23:08,119 --> 00:23:11,560 Speaker 7: He said something about you're gonna win with me. 526 00:23:12,240 --> 00:23:15,320 Speaker 1: Said, oh no, no, no, you may. 527 00:23:15,240 --> 00:23:19,680 Speaker 7: Lose with me. Yeah, that's it. Yeah, yeah, you're gonna 528 00:23:19,720 --> 00:23:20,439 Speaker 7: lose with me. 529 00:23:20,720 --> 00:23:22,480 Speaker 1: No, I'm not gonna lose with you. 530 00:23:22,480 --> 00:23:24,000 Speaker 7: You may lose with me. 531 00:23:24,640 --> 00:23:29,439 Speaker 11: Then what we said, and it took us thirty minutes, 532 00:23:30,320 --> 00:23:32,200 Speaker 11: but you'll never win with that, but that's it. 533 00:23:32,359 --> 00:23:32,600 Speaker 2: Yeah. 534 00:23:32,680 --> 00:23:34,000 Speaker 4: Yeah, Oh I like that. 535 00:23:34,200 --> 00:23:34,760 Speaker 1: I like that. 536 00:23:34,800 --> 00:23:36,440 Speaker 4: I said, well, I like it too. 537 00:23:36,480 --> 00:23:37,600 Speaker 7: That's an original. 538 00:23:37,840 --> 00:23:42,680 Speaker 11: Yeah, And to this day that was always of course 539 00:23:42,720 --> 00:23:45,720 Speaker 11: he passed away. God bless Joe Green will say. Lon 540 00:23:45,800 --> 00:23:47,720 Speaker 11: Bamber said, you may lose with me, but you'll never 541 00:23:47,760 --> 00:23:50,040 Speaker 11: win without me. Now that kind of became the theme 542 00:23:50,600 --> 00:23:52,640 Speaker 11: of their defense. They used to use it all the time. 543 00:23:53,240 --> 00:23:56,120 Speaker 2: Next up, comedian Gary Goleman and Jeweles discussed the evolution 544 00:23:56,400 --> 00:23:57,320 Speaker 2: of the tight end position. 545 00:23:57,920 --> 00:24:01,240 Speaker 12: He was a man a wonderful time end back when 546 00:24:01,240 --> 00:24:02,200 Speaker 12: they used to block a lot. 547 00:24:02,320 --> 00:24:06,080 Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, you know, I do Fox with Rob Gronk 548 00:24:06,760 --> 00:24:08,919 Speaker 1: and we'll sit and talk and I always pick his 549 00:24:09,000 --> 00:24:11,199 Speaker 1: brain whenever because we'll watch all the games together and 550 00:24:11,200 --> 00:24:13,320 Speaker 1: I have all the TVs. Yeah, sitting there, you got 551 00:24:13,359 --> 00:24:17,119 Speaker 1: Howie Long. Yeah, yeah, yeah, Yeah, I'm sitting there and 552 00:24:17,160 --> 00:24:19,119 Speaker 1: I'm like, Yo, gron what do you think about this kid? 553 00:24:20,320 --> 00:24:23,640 Speaker 1: He's more of an H back? Do you think about 554 00:24:23,640 --> 00:24:27,000 Speaker 1: this guy? He's more of an H back? He really 555 00:24:27,040 --> 00:24:29,600 Speaker 1: thinks that the true tight end position. There's only like 556 00:24:29,640 --> 00:24:32,520 Speaker 1: two to five, two to three that are a traditional 557 00:24:33,359 --> 00:24:34,919 Speaker 1: tight end that could sit up on the end of 558 00:24:34,920 --> 00:24:38,040 Speaker 1: the line of scrimmage, a block of nine technique. Right, wow, 559 00:24:38,160 --> 00:24:39,679 Speaker 1: you know what I mean. There's not many guys that 560 00:24:39,760 --> 00:24:41,680 Speaker 1: do that. Yeah, a lot of these guys. It's become 561 00:24:41,680 --> 00:24:45,600 Speaker 1: a pass catching position. It's an extra wide receiver. Yeah, 562 00:24:45,640 --> 00:24:48,080 Speaker 1: you know what I mean. You get big totalivers and 563 00:24:48,080 --> 00:24:51,040 Speaker 1: then you're playing the personnel group game, and now they 564 00:24:51,040 --> 00:24:53,160 Speaker 1: don't have to block the ends anymore. They can get 565 00:24:53,240 --> 00:24:55,879 Speaker 1: up on you know, a smaller backer. Oh yeah, game. 566 00:24:55,880 --> 00:24:57,000 Speaker 1: It's completely changed. 567 00:24:57,119 --> 00:25:00,360 Speaker 12: Yeah, yeah, it's so much faster it is, and get 568 00:25:00,359 --> 00:25:01,840 Speaker 12: over it sometimes. 569 00:25:01,560 --> 00:25:04,199 Speaker 1: Gary, How was how was your blocking when you play it? Awful? 570 00:25:04,400 --> 00:25:07,520 Speaker 12: My blocking was My blocking was awful. My technique was 571 00:25:07,520 --> 00:25:10,960 Speaker 12: was awful. I relied on being able to jump very 572 00:25:11,000 --> 00:25:13,800 Speaker 12: high and I had good hands, but my blocking I 573 00:25:13,800 --> 00:25:15,720 Speaker 12: could never do. They used to call it a reach 574 00:25:15,760 --> 00:25:18,080 Speaker 12: block and that and that. Yeah, and that's a really 575 00:25:18,320 --> 00:25:20,040 Speaker 12: that's a really hard block. And also when I was 576 00:25:20,080 --> 00:25:22,240 Speaker 12: in high school, they didn't want you to use your hands. 577 00:25:22,280 --> 00:25:24,760 Speaker 12: They wanted you to block with your shoulder, so that, yes, 578 00:25:24,880 --> 00:25:27,920 Speaker 12: you seek the flippers, yes, so you wouldn't get called 579 00:25:27,960 --> 00:25:29,000 Speaker 12: for a holy call. 580 00:25:30,200 --> 00:25:33,720 Speaker 2: Now. Eric stone Street on Joe Montana's incredible last minute 581 00:25:33,760 --> 00:25:36,520 Speaker 2: drive to beat the Broncos Monday Night Show. 582 00:25:36,600 --> 00:25:38,679 Speaker 1: It uh, it was everything it was built up to be. 583 00:25:39,080 --> 00:25:43,359 Speaker 6: Montana Lway combined for six hundred and fifty passing yards 584 00:25:43,680 --> 00:25:46,920 Speaker 6: five tds. It was a little slow starting out, nothing, 585 00:25:46,920 --> 00:25:49,600 Speaker 6: nothing after the first feeling each other out in mile high. 586 00:25:49,760 --> 00:25:51,960 Speaker 6: Then we get on the board fourteen fourteen and a half. 587 00:25:52,240 --> 00:25:54,960 Speaker 6: L Way is slinging one, Montana slinging one. They trade 588 00:25:55,000 --> 00:25:57,280 Speaker 6: TD passes in the third. Then it comes down to 589 00:25:57,320 --> 00:26:01,360 Speaker 6: the fourth minute. It's the same old story. L Way 590 00:26:01,480 --> 00:26:04,960 Speaker 6: does the drive. Ten men on the field, he runs 591 00:26:05,000 --> 00:26:08,159 Speaker 6: it in himself. They take the lead with a minute 592 00:26:08,359 --> 00:26:12,160 Speaker 6: twenty nine left. Now it's Joe Joe magic time. 593 00:26:12,560 --> 00:26:15,720 Speaker 13: And it really when you watch that drive, it really is. 594 00:26:15,960 --> 00:26:18,480 Speaker 13: You know, people talk about Tom Brady with the ten 595 00:26:18,560 --> 00:26:20,880 Speaker 13: yard three yard, four yard dump off passes. I mean 596 00:26:20,920 --> 00:26:24,040 Speaker 13: he did just down, check, check down, check down the whole. 597 00:26:23,760 --> 00:26:26,359 Speaker 1: Field, and well, so interesting. I'm rewatching it the other day. 598 00:26:27,040 --> 00:26:29,880 Speaker 6: You see guys in this situation today, it's it's from 599 00:26:29,880 --> 00:26:33,240 Speaker 6: the shotgun, empty backfield, spread them out back. Then Joe's 600 00:26:33,280 --> 00:26:36,000 Speaker 6: under center every single Yeah, with two tight ends. They 601 00:26:36,000 --> 00:26:39,000 Speaker 6: got a minute twenty nine left, two timeouts, and he's 602 00:26:39,000 --> 00:26:40,560 Speaker 6: still marching down the field under center. 603 00:26:40,560 --> 00:26:43,600 Speaker 1: I love it. You look at the Chiefs now with 604 00:26:43,760 --> 00:26:46,520 Speaker 1: this year. Yep, you know they've been a lot more 605 00:26:46,600 --> 00:26:49,080 Speaker 1: under the center. Yeah, because you know, you got you 606 00:26:49,119 --> 00:26:52,040 Speaker 1: gotta incorporate that run game, helping the tackles out of 607 00:26:52,080 --> 00:26:54,560 Speaker 1: little bills. You know, it's it's a big thing, and 608 00:26:55,000 --> 00:26:57,199 Speaker 1: there's something to be said like when people say, oh, 609 00:26:57,240 --> 00:27:00,600 Speaker 1: it's a Deanc dunk this that to have the discipline 610 00:27:00,600 --> 00:27:05,600 Speaker 1: as a quarterback to not take the food's goal because 611 00:27:05,720 --> 00:27:08,680 Speaker 1: there's there's spots where it opened up and it closes quick. 612 00:27:09,359 --> 00:27:11,399 Speaker 1: And to be able to not make a mistake in 613 00:27:11,440 --> 00:27:14,199 Speaker 1: a high pressure situation and take what the defense gives you. 614 00:27:14,600 --> 00:27:18,600 Speaker 1: It seems easy for the regular person, but it's so 615 00:27:18,840 --> 00:27:21,760 Speaker 1: hard because you feel that pressure, you feel the time, 616 00:27:21,920 --> 00:27:24,840 Speaker 1: you feel where you are in the game, and and 617 00:27:24,920 --> 00:27:27,720 Speaker 1: you know that that's why you like Patrick Mahomes. This 618 00:27:27,800 --> 00:27:30,160 Speaker 1: year he's been like that. He hasn't turned the ball 619 00:27:30,200 --> 00:27:34,399 Speaker 1: over in six goddamn playoff games and it hasn't been 620 00:27:34,520 --> 00:27:37,960 Speaker 1: razzle dazzle, but he's had the humility and he's had 621 00:27:39,200 --> 00:27:42,439 Speaker 1: that kind of confidence to like, know what his team is. 622 00:27:42,560 --> 00:27:44,760 Speaker 1: No that we have a really good defense right now, 623 00:27:45,680 --> 00:27:48,960 Speaker 1: we know, you know, defenses are playing us probably a 624 00:27:49,000 --> 00:27:51,840 Speaker 1: little different. We don't have what we had on in 625 00:27:51,880 --> 00:27:55,560 Speaker 1: the past on the outside. And and to just take 626 00:27:55,800 --> 00:27:59,320 Speaker 1: what the defense gives you is that's a skill, you know. 627 00:28:00,080 --> 00:28:02,440 Speaker 1: And yeah, it's just but there's gonna be that one 628 00:28:02,560 --> 00:28:05,000 Speaker 1: time where you hit that check down, you hit that 629 00:28:05,160 --> 00:28:07,760 Speaker 1: option route, option route. There's gonna be that one time 630 00:28:07,760 --> 00:28:09,879 Speaker 1: where you have to put that that fourteen yard in 631 00:28:10,000 --> 00:28:13,399 Speaker 1: cut in there, you know, and that's what these guys do. Yeah, 632 00:28:13,400 --> 00:28:15,600 Speaker 1: and that's what you saw with you know, Joe Montana, 633 00:28:15,640 --> 00:28:17,520 Speaker 1: and that's what you saw a lot with Tom Brady, 634 00:28:17,560 --> 00:28:20,959 Speaker 1: and that's what you're seeing right now with Patrick Mahomes. 635 00:28:21,040 --> 00:28:25,320 Speaker 1: It's been impressive. Jack. What's was this last? This last drive? 636 00:28:25,400 --> 00:28:27,720 Speaker 1: Canast drive through it? 637 00:28:27,920 --> 00:28:29,159 Speaker 7: Do you remember the last well? 638 00:28:29,200 --> 00:28:32,399 Speaker 13: I remember we our tight end, Keith Cash was out. 639 00:28:32,640 --> 00:28:36,200 Speaker 13: He was injured, so we had I believe his name 640 00:28:36,280 --> 00:28:37,960 Speaker 13: was Tracy Green or something like that. It was his 641 00:28:38,040 --> 00:28:41,600 Speaker 13: rookie year from Grambling State, Grambling State, Grambling State Biggs. 642 00:28:41,720 --> 00:28:45,120 Speaker 13: He was a former offensive lineman six six' five to seventy, 643 00:28:45,120 --> 00:28:47,400 Speaker 13: five big old tight. End he had a crucial catch 644 00:28:47,760 --> 00:28:49,200 Speaker 13: down at the end of the game to get us 645 00:28:49,200 --> 00:28:49,920 Speaker 13: close to the goal. 646 00:28:50,000 --> 00:28:51,160 Speaker 1: Line and Then. 647 00:28:51,040 --> 00:28:54,320 Speaker 13: Willie, DAVIS i mean the Great Willie davis again still 648 00:28:54,320 --> 00:28:59,000 Speaker 13: A Kansas City, chief gets that that touchdown and Where 649 00:28:59,000 --> 00:29:03,640 Speaker 13: montana put it Very mahomes. ESQUE i Mean mahomes would, 650 00:29:03,640 --> 00:29:06,160 Speaker 13: say my passes are Very Joe montana asked right where 651 00:29:06,160 --> 00:29:08,240 Speaker 13: it needed to, be right, right leading him to the. 652 00:29:08,240 --> 00:29:11,400 Speaker 1: Pylon it was rowing outside, low only where he could get. 653 00:29:11,400 --> 00:29:14,040 Speaker 1: It so a lot of what you're coached in The 654 00:29:14,120 --> 00:29:18,080 Speaker 1: National Football league on that the back, line everything's high 655 00:29:18,800 --> 00:29:20,760 Speaker 1: so no one can catch. It when you're on the goal, 656 00:29:20,840 --> 00:29:23,600 Speaker 1: line everything has to be low because there's less. Space you, 657 00:29:23,600 --> 00:29:24,320 Speaker 1: know how about that. 658 00:29:24,280 --> 00:29:28,720 Speaker 13: Pass From Josh allen AGAINST us that was so low 659 00:29:28,760 --> 00:29:30,800 Speaker 13: and down at the pylon in that, game and Then 660 00:29:30,840 --> 00:29:33,880 Speaker 13: Patrick mahomes returns a favor against The ravens with an 661 00:29:33,920 --> 00:29:34,840 Speaker 13: equally great. 662 00:29:34,640 --> 00:29:37,640 Speaker 6: Pass, like oh my, man and great Recall, eric shout 663 00:29:37,640 --> 00:29:40,120 Speaker 6: out To Tracy. Green he only had six career receptions 664 00:29:40,160 --> 00:29:42,800 Speaker 6: in THE. Nfl, Yeah joe's leading on him and crunches 665 00:29:42,840 --> 00:29:45,520 Speaker 6: The french. Times, Yeah AND i don't THINK i don't 666 00:29:45,560 --> 00:29:47,040 Speaker 6: think HE i don't. THINK i think he played one 667 00:29:47,040 --> 00:29:49,200 Speaker 6: more year and he did one more year for The 668 00:29:49,240 --> 00:29:54,040 Speaker 6: Steelers Grambling, State Grambling. State and this one ends up thirty, 669 00:29:54,080 --> 00:29:58,000 Speaker 6: one twenty eight in The house Of, Horrors Kansas city 670 00:29:58,040 --> 00:30:01,080 Speaker 6: goes in there and gets the win and fourteen Years 671 00:30:01,160 --> 00:30:01,720 Speaker 6: Monday Night. 672 00:30:01,720 --> 00:30:03,920 Speaker 1: Football, yeah, Yeah marty gets his. 673 00:30:03,880 --> 00:30:04,360 Speaker 2: First one in. 674 00:30:04,400 --> 00:30:09,240 Speaker 1: There, yeah At Mile. High that's, awesome. RIGHT i Love Marty. 675 00:30:09,240 --> 00:30:10,280 Speaker 1: Shotton i'm A marty ball. 676 00:30:10,320 --> 00:30:11,800 Speaker 7: Baby thanks for. 677 00:30:11,840 --> 00:30:14,520 Speaker 8: Listening remember to tune in Every tuesday for a brand 678 00:30:14,520 --> 00:30:17,440 Speaker 8: new episode and Every sunday for another games with names 679 00:30:17,520 --> 00:30:17,720 Speaker 8: high that. 680 00:30:17,840 --> 00:30:20,880 Speaker 9: YEAR h