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Speaker 4: Lord Scow. Welcome to La.
Speaker 1: Man.
Speaker 4: How we doing headline in your show? This is? Is
Speaker 4: this your first headline show in LA. You've been here before?
Speaker 1: Yeah, I've been here plenty of times.
Speaker 2: I did my first show in Orange County yesterday saying
Speaker 2: it and which.
Speaker 4: Was cool but observatory. Yeah, I wasn't.
Speaker 2: It was cool, man, it was you know, I felt
Speaker 2: like Levin then, you know what I'm saying, sold a
Speaker 2: bunch of merch.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: I had a bunch of fans who pulled up with
Speaker 2: like my old vinyls and stuff, and it was a
Speaker 2: good time.
Speaker 1: You know what I mean?
Speaker 4: How long have you been rapping?
Speaker 1: Brother?
Speaker 3: Because like I think I first kind of came up
Speaker 3: on you. I would say, right around like early twenty twenty.
Speaker 3: I think I reached out to you sometime in twenty
Speaker 3: twenty three. It was before it dropped your out in.
Speaker 2: Twenty I think last time I was out here, like
Speaker 2: you reached out to me.
Speaker 4: We missed each other that last time you were here.
Speaker 2: Last time I was here. But it was like, yeah,
Speaker 2: that's how it goes. But I'm glad to be here now.
Speaker 2: But yeah, I just turned twenty one about a week ago. Oh,
Speaker 2: you're a fucking child, I am, Yeah, unfortunately, but you
Speaker 2: know that's what it is. But you know, I play
Speaker 2: like kind of fucking around, like I'd say, when I
Speaker 2: was probably twelve thirteen, it's just scribbling, like writing like rhymes,
Speaker 2: not really even like making songs, but just kind of
Speaker 2: like thinking of clever rhyms and shit. And then I
Speaker 2: started like recording by the time I was probably like
Speaker 2: fifteen fourteen, and then I started really really like taking
Speaker 2: it seriously, like this is my only path in life.
Speaker 2: For us, life is not worth living. When I was
Speaker 2: like sixteen, Oh that's dope. Yeah, and then it's kind
Speaker 2: of like I feel like every two years, like it's
Speaker 2: like a gradual like level up of like what's going on?
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I feel like too the type of
Speaker 3: music you make is like it's obviously I feel like
Speaker 3: being you know, out of New York Man is refreshing
Speaker 3: because I feel like New York's gotten to the point
Speaker 3: where we hear so much like the big shit that's
Speaker 3: popped out of New York obviously in the last five
Speaker 3: six years been the drill shit, you know.
Speaker 4: Which is good. You know, I like a lot of
Speaker 4: that shit, you know what.
Speaker 3: I'm saying, But I feel like you're I feel like,
Speaker 3: you know, you're you're doing a good job of representing
Speaker 3: like the you know what, we what we grew up
Speaker 3: loving New York for.
Speaker 2: Right, right, But you know, at the same time, like
Speaker 2: I feel like with that being said, which I definitely
Speaker 2: take pride in, I also like want to make that
Speaker 2: approachable for kids who's my age.
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying, No, for sure, because you
Speaker 3: don't want to be the dude who only old heads
Speaker 3: listen to.
Speaker 1: Right, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: And sometimes I almost fear that I like embordering on
Speaker 2: being that you know what I'm saying, But I also
Speaker 2: know ultimately you know, obviously love to own my older fans,
Speaker 2: but when I think Joey did a good job of
Speaker 2: that going on this tour though, I will say like
Speaker 2: there was definitely a couple of older cats in there
Speaker 2: every night, but it was mainly like younger kids, like
Speaker 2: I'd say, in the twenty some of them not even
Speaker 2: twenty years old. You know how a fucking little twelve
Speaker 2: year old kid came with a koojie sweater and like
Speaker 2: George and Timberland's on like got the whole ghet.
Speaker 4: Up at the whole fucking what is whole family?
Speaker 1: Yeah? That shit was awesome, man.
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying, What do you how do
Speaker 3: you feel like like you're able to kind of like
Speaker 3: because I feel like, at the end of the day, man,
Speaker 3: there's always like a appetite for like real shit, for
Speaker 3: dope dope bars, for dope beats and shit. It's just
Speaker 3: a little harder to cut through, especially when you're talking
Speaker 3: like to a TikTok generation. Have you what has been
Speaker 3: like the trick for you, like in terms of making
Speaker 3: sure you're not you know, I guess only rapping to
Speaker 3: old people?
Speaker 1: Can I tell you? Can I tell you?
Speaker 2: The truth is just not being a hater, you know
Speaker 2: what I'm saying, Like like fucking with all types of music,
Speaker 2: Like I'm not shying of them dudes, who's like yo,
Speaker 2: turn off that ship?
Speaker 1: Like I fucked with all types of music.
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, Like I like doing shit
Speaker 2: that's gonna catch people off guard, and like, you know,
Speaker 2: having different influences within my shit, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: So I think it's honestly, just keeping options open because
Speaker 2: I think for me and my place in New York especially,
Speaker 2: like everybody knows me on all different sides of the shit.
Speaker 2: I know the cats making jerk, I know a lot
Speaker 2: of the drill cats. I know a lot of the
Speaker 2: fashion cats. I know all the motherfuckers doing everything in
Speaker 2: New York. I know the hardcore cast. Everything you know,
Speaker 2: but everything I think we all have like a mutual
Speaker 2: respect for each other because I'm not trying to invade
Speaker 2: on what they're doing.
Speaker 1: I'm not trying to like be like yo, I'm.
Speaker 2: Gonna do this, but it's always it's a mutual respect
Speaker 2: just because like we've been seeing each other, we've done
Speaker 2: shows with each other, like all of that, you know
Speaker 2: what I'm saying. So for sure, I think being open
Speaker 2: minded in short, you know.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think being a hater too is a thing
Speaker 3: that a lot of a lot of folks can that
Speaker 3: we're being an elitist, like you know what I'm saying, Like.
Speaker 2: Everybody is a hater truthfully, but like you know, and
Speaker 2: it's and you know, you're allowed to not like things
Speaker 2: to your own, but like you know, but don't go
Speaker 2: out of your way to suck with it.
Speaker 3: Fact like somebody's out here winning and people enjoy it
Speaker 3: for what it is, Like.
Speaker 1: There's so much music out there. If you don't like.
Speaker 4: Something like that, you'll find something to do.
Speaker 1: There's something out there for you.
Speaker 4: What was it like?
Speaker 3: Because for people who aren't too familiar with the New
Speaker 3: York area, so Washington Heights is essentially uptown kind of
Speaker 3: like near Harlem, right.
Speaker 2: Like kind of in between like Harlem and the Bronx,
Speaker 2: Like Dykeman is up there. That's a big part of like,
Speaker 2: you know, it's kind of its own neighborhood, but it's.
Speaker 3: What's that area like, it's a lot of Dominicans.
Speaker 2: Are definitely very Dominican, but it's also very i'd say
Speaker 2: community based, you know what I'm saying. Like I kind
Speaker 2: of realized that it's almost like Chinatown but Dominican, you
Speaker 2: know what I'm saying, Like, and people don't really think
Speaker 2: about it that way in New York, I think just
Speaker 2: because like.
Speaker 1: It's just it's i'd say less populated.
Speaker 2: Like people go through Chinatown to get to the Lower
Speaker 2: to get to Soho, to do this or to do that,
Speaker 2: and there's a new motherfucker going there to make a
Speaker 2: TikTok about the five dollars dumplings every every every day,
Speaker 2: you know. But in the Heights, it's more of a
Speaker 2: like community that kind of stays within itself, you know
Speaker 2: what I'm saying. I know people who just don't even
Speaker 2: go downtown, like their whole life exists uptown, you know
Speaker 2: what I'm saying, And like that's dope. But it's also
Speaker 2: like it shows the community within that neighborhood, and I
Speaker 2: feel like it's lacking that that type of backbone within
Speaker 2: a lot of neighborhoods in New York, you know. And
Speaker 2: I think to me, I'm getting old enough to start
Speaker 2: to kind of become conscious and be like, oh, this
Speaker 2: is different when from when I was younger, Like I
Speaker 2: don't remember this.
Speaker 1: Looking like that, Like she's changing, just changing, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: Like, and I'm old enough to be like, wow, like
Speaker 2: I actually have a memory from ten maybe twelve years ago.
Speaker 4: I wasn't here this looked different or this.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but I still feel like the Height still has
Speaker 2: a level of familiarity.
Speaker 1: Obviously it's coming up, but.
Speaker 4: It has the gentrification hit up there.
Speaker 1: It's like slowly creeping it.
Speaker 2: It's creeping them in inwood indictment definitely where I'm from,
Speaker 2: like kind of you know what I'm saying, Like there's
Speaker 2: that like more towards Amsterdam.
Speaker 1: They put up a hotel a few years ago, but
Speaker 1: like I don't, like, I don't. I don't think anybody
Speaker 1: goes to that hotel, bro, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2: But for the most part, I was saying no though,
Speaker 2: like you still got all the poppy shops everything that
Speaker 2: you you know, it's like a it's very I'm trying
Speaker 2: to think of a word, but it's like self servicing.
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, r RIGHTLF, you really got
Speaker 2: to leave exactly exactly like if you didn't want to leave,
Speaker 2: you wouldn't.
Speaker 4: Have to, were you?
Speaker 3: So you when you flipped the big out Lifestyles of
Speaker 3: the Poor and Dangerous cover for United Palace, you got
Speaker 3: to know when you.
Speaker 2: Do that absolutely now now for sure, And and you know,
Speaker 2: I think doing that was definitely a very big statement,
Speaker 2: especially for someone so stament for you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: And.
Speaker 2: I think it still was something that I don't look
Speaker 2: back on and regret though, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: No, no, because I think I think the album's dope, and
Speaker 3: I think, like, I think you just got to kind
Speaker 3: of know, like, all right, yeah, we got.
Speaker 1: Some responsibilitility shoes and shoes.
Speaker 2: But I also wasn't even trying to be like, yo,
Speaker 2: I'm big l Like that wasn't what I.
Speaker 1: Was, but it was just mys you know.
Speaker 2: But ultimately I also have had kids be like, I
Speaker 2: didn't know who big il was until I scroll through
Speaker 2: your comments and saw people being like, isn't this the
Speaker 2: big Ol cover? And they went and checked it out,
Speaker 2: which to me is kind of the point of it,
Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying. And ultimately I just kind
Speaker 2: of wanted to take some of the themes that he
Speaker 2: was speaking through on that album and kind of translate
Speaker 2: them through a modern day lens, through my lens, and
Speaker 2: through a lens that took place like maybe two miles
Speaker 2: more uptown. You know.
Speaker 3: I want to hear somebody to do devil Son in
Speaker 3: twenty twenty five. It'll be crazy, even though that wasn't
Speaker 3: on that album.
Speaker 4: What are you A? Do you like? Big picture of Lifestyles?
Speaker 4: Are the poorn dangerous?
Speaker 1: More?
Speaker 2: I would say lifestyles just because to me, like, you know,
Speaker 2: it's more concise, but it's it's like kind of like
Speaker 2: it was.
Speaker 3: It was also like a he made that album. Yes, yes,
Speaker 3: the Big Picture was a bunch of stuff put together.
Speaker 1: The Picture is dope thought like the Big Daddy. It's
Speaker 1: crazy part of me.
Speaker 4: But I'm fucking sick with it.
Speaker 3: No, I mean big Picture. I actually prefer Big Picture,
Speaker 3: but I know why to take.
Speaker 1: A little more polished. But like that's the.
Speaker 3: Thing is though it was it was also like they
Speaker 3: put that album together after he died, with a bunch
Speaker 3: of stuff that was out there. Like think about it,
Speaker 3: there's like freestyles on there, you know what I.
Speaker 2: Mean, And like it something I'm starting to understand as
Speaker 2: an artist and kind of as I got further. And
Speaker 2: obviously like this both does and doesn't really apply to
Speaker 2: that because it was a posthumous album. But like I
Speaker 2: think people fail to recognize the aught of like different
Speaker 2: kind of flavors within an album, you know, or from
Speaker 2: album to albums, Like you can't just make the same
Speaker 2: album over and over again, like you know, ultimately, like
Speaker 2: there will be a section of your fans that will
Speaker 2: want to just hear you make that same album over
Speaker 2: and over again. I think like more and more artists
Speaker 2: are realizing, like that's not the right thing to do.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you would.
Speaker 3: I think Tyler recently has done a good job on
Speaker 3: a commercial scale.
Speaker 1: He's always been good at like reinvented.
Speaker 3: Every album has its own aesthetic, a vibe, its own sound.
Speaker 2: It's like, but like it doesn't even need to be
Speaker 2: within every album, like ideally it would be like every
Speaker 2: album and that's that's a luxury that not every artist has,
Speaker 2: like you know what I'm saying, But you know, I
Speaker 2: think that's something to also be respected and just like
Speaker 2: seeing like all right, like this album, like you like,
Speaker 2: I don't know if you close your eyes and think
Speaker 2: about like the color of an album, right, you know
Speaker 2: what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: Like how vibrant is that color?
Speaker 2: Like, like you know what I'm saying, Like you don't
Speaker 2: got to think about it, like you know what I mean,
Speaker 2: Like if it's supposed to be blue, like how blue
Speaker 2: does it look? You know?
Speaker 1: I feel like you know what I mean, Like maybe
Speaker 1: I'm just high as fucking.
Speaker 4: Some real shit though, you know what I mean.
Speaker 3: I feel like it's interesting too, because I feel like
Speaker 3: more artists should think that, like before we put this
Speaker 3: album out or before we figure out the artwork. Listen,
Speaker 3: listen to all the songs that we got and what
Speaker 3: color does it sound like?
Speaker 1: Yo? It's like mad cool to think about the color, bro.
Speaker 1: Like I love thinking about the color bro. Like it's cool, bro.
Speaker 2: And like I'm not even like, yo, I got synesthesia,
Speaker 2: because like that is not the case. I'm not like
Speaker 2: fucking for real out here where I'm like, you know,
Speaker 2: but like you can fucking think of the color.
Speaker 1: You know, it's like a it's like a move board,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: Like you just gotta kind of understand what you're trying
Speaker 2: to come across with in your music and your brand,
Speaker 2: within that album cycle or within just your career cycle.
Speaker 1: Whatever.
Speaker 3: This new album that you have that's out, you have
Speaker 3: some legendary features.
Speaker 4: I definitely do man, definitely.
Speaker 3: From the last song of this one, the features are
Speaker 3: crazy currency.
Speaker 4: Obviously Spin is a legend to that.
Speaker 3: But how the fuck do you end up blinking with
Speaker 3: Dell the funky Homo Sapien And by the way, as
Speaker 3: a kid who's twenty one years old, that's.
Speaker 4: Just uh, that's awesome. Absolutely, Dale was the guy high
Speaker 4: Row especially, but that's some that's some barious ship.
Speaker 1: Absolutely yeah.
Speaker 2: I mean, long story short, I mean I got my
Speaker 2: man Curdie Pandy over here. You know, he's been killing
Speaker 2: it as my DJ. He's also a super time to
Speaker 2: produce out of Richmond, Virginia. But we was out in
Speaker 2: La last time I was here. I was stuck around
Speaker 2: for like probably three weeks or something, and Dante, my manager,
Speaker 2: who obviously has a long relationship with Dell, was like, Yo,
Speaker 2: we'll take a trip up to the Bay and go
Speaker 2: like fuck with Dell. Like, you know, I've never been
Speaker 2: out to the base. So we went up there. Crazy trip,
Speaker 2: long story short, but yeah, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: It was definitely a fun experience. Took shrooms with Dell
Speaker 2: and and uh we actually made like two or three
Speaker 2: records that day that weren't actually the record that ended
Speaker 2: up that it ended up being on the album.
Speaker 1: And you know, we just ended up kind of like him. Yeah. Wow,
Speaker 1: it was cool, man.
Speaker 2: I bet the Empire Studios and Ghazi Yeah yeah, shouts
Speaker 2: out to too.
Speaker 4: But you're you're shrewming with Dell making just making records.
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, but none of them are coming out like
Speaker 2: they're all like they're all for the archives.
Speaker 1: You know, but like it's kind of cool.
Speaker 2: It's like you take a picture with your front and
Speaker 2: you look disgusting and you're not gonna post it, you know.
Speaker 1: But you still gotta like appreciate it, you know. But yeah,
Speaker 1: that was mad cool.
Speaker 4: And how much how much did you guys eat?
Speaker 2: Not like a crazy amount, like like definitely it was gummies,
Speaker 2: but we definitely I think me and him killed the
Speaker 2: pack of gummies together.
Speaker 4: I mean we was good, We was nice. Everyone's good.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, it was definitely nice.
Speaker 4: Everything sounds good when you're that high on true absolutely
Speaker 4: whatever the fuck's coming through the speakers, you just.
Speaker 1: Are like, oh yeah, definitely.
Speaker 4: And then you listen back and like what the fuck
Speaker 4: was going?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Yeah, but you know, we ended up ended up making
Speaker 1: it work man. You know.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I gotta some credit to CURTI because we ended
Speaker 2: up like getting another verse from Dell a few months later,
Speaker 2: just because like we were like, yo, like these are
Speaker 2: kind of like like both of us were like off it,
Speaker 2: and he was like, yeah, I got you. He sent
Speaker 2: us a new verse, and then like me and CURTI
Speaker 2: were kind of like, let's fucking change the whole beat
Speaker 2: because the verse he sentence was good, and we were
Speaker 2: just like, we don't really want it on this beat,
Speaker 2: and Curti had some dope shit in the pack, so
Speaker 2: he cooked that up and ended up being dope. And
Speaker 2: that's kind of why it also ended up being an interlude,
Speaker 2: just because it was like a strenuous process and also
Speaker 2: I kind of wanted to continue on the theme of
Speaker 2: having like a older rapper kind of like uh, Chris
Speaker 2: and the album to towards the end of it, you
Speaker 2: know what I'm saying. I had Curious George do it
Speaker 2: on the United Palace, and I just think that's like
Speaker 2: a cool thing to do to kind of just cavit
Speaker 2: on tradition and uh, you know, just give a give
Speaker 2: a little moment.
Speaker 4: What about Grant Exact?
Speaker 1: Uh?
Speaker 3: Brand newbian News obviously one of the most legendary hip
Speaker 3: hop groups ever and also the most I mean one
Speaker 3: of the most left on groups of all. Absolutely, Yeah,
Speaker 3: All for One is a classic. But yeah, again, it's
Speaker 3: just like you're out kicking your coverage here on your age.
Speaker 4: What are you listening to fucking brand Nubian back in
Speaker 4: the day?
Speaker 1: Like no, I mean, like.
Speaker 2: I listened to a lot of Pooba's solo stuff, Like
Speaker 2: I really liked the two thousand album man, Like you know,
Speaker 2: obviously like Dante when I when.
Speaker 4: I first like hip hop historian, yeah o g.
Speaker 2: Dante Ross, you know, and like when I started working
Speaker 2: with him, I definitely like went through the catalog of
Speaker 2: albums that he had worked on, and you know, most
Speaker 2: a lot of them I.
Speaker 1: Was already familiar with.
Speaker 2: But yeah, yeah, yeah, so I kind of like re
Speaker 2: explored it through that, and like, you know, there's definitely
Speaker 2: some dope joints on on the Poopa record. Amazing is
Speaker 2: one of my favorites, and fucking at the Bar, I
Speaker 2: don't know, I love it.
Speaker 4: Were you guys in the studio like in like together
Speaker 4: for this record?
Speaker 1: No, no, No, that didn't happen.
Speaker 2: We just basically the story on that is like shout
Speaker 2: out Mike Shaff He had sent me a beat and
Speaker 2: he'd sell me a bunch of beats, and like I
Speaker 2: just kind of wrote like a bunch of shit on
Speaker 2: that beat.
Speaker 1: And then.
Speaker 2: When I was like playing back in the early version
Speaker 2: of the album for my managers Dante and Selim, we
Speaker 2: were like figuring out what we wanted to do with
Speaker 2: features and like what songs we were keeping what songs
Speaker 2: we want, and like the name grand Pooper came up
Speaker 2: and we were all kind of like, yeah, I would
Speaker 2: actually be kind of crazy, and then just kind of
Speaker 2: worked out like that. Yeah, he sent us a verse
Speaker 2: and then he sent us a hook like a day later,
Speaker 2: like just just was like, Yo, I'm gonna add another
Speaker 2: level of sauce on that for the young guy.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: When you're growing up, right, what is your a core
Speaker 3: artist that you're listening to kind of because you're kind
Speaker 3: of coming up in an era where I feel like,
Speaker 3: you know, post blog era.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, like I would say Joey was a
Speaker 2: big artist for me. Mac Miller, it was a big
Speaker 2: artist Gun once I found Gun, which I was definitely
Speaker 2: a little later on, but like you know, once I
Speaker 2: found him, kind of like Common did a lot of
Speaker 2: my taste, and Doom was another one.
Speaker 4: Doom. Yeah, Yo, It's crazy how much MF. Doom is like.
Speaker 3: Translated to kids. Man, Yeah, due my kids in my
Speaker 3: son's in high school. Man, he just graduated, but him
Speaker 3: and all his friends love MF. Doom and they're fucking.
Speaker 2: Like I man, Mac turned me on a duom when
Speaker 2: I was probably like fourteen years old, and like, I like.
Speaker 4: He's having a resurgence with like kids.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well he's he's just you know, he's ill, like
Speaker 2: I don't know, I don't know, like TikTok.
Speaker 1: I guess I don't know.
Speaker 2: But he's also just one of the best ever, So
Speaker 2: that makes sense, you know what I mean.
Speaker 4: It's insane.
Speaker 3: Man shots at MF Doom Yeah, no, definitely, Uh, shot
Speaker 3: to mc miller doom.
Speaker 4: Who else would you say, he.
Speaker 2: Said, Yeah, Joey gunn Is, Elda ship Rock, Mashie another
Speaker 2: one for sure. Yeah, I would say Asap Zombies definitely.
Speaker 4: I just met the guy from Flat with Zombies at
Speaker 4: the Fourth Rope.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, Yeah. It was cool. I almost wanted
Speaker 1: doing in Vegas.
Speaker 4: It was from midnight to four in the morning.
Speaker 1: That's pretty crazy.
Speaker 4: With to Friday Night SmackDown.
Speaker 3: I went to my room, took a nap, and I
Speaker 3: was like, am I really to fucking show up midnight?
Speaker 4: That's fucking so it was amazing. They have JBL came out,
Speaker 4: the Hardy Boys wrestled.
Speaker 1: I saw the Godfather came out.
Speaker 4: Godfather came out with Joe Hendry.
Speaker 1: Uh.
Speaker 4: It was insane.
Speaker 1: It was a night in the nickname it the Wrestle.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah, Dolph Sigler. Yeah, everyone was there, dude.
Speaker 4: It was fucking nuts. Yeah, crazy, it was. It was
Speaker 4: a good time. Somebody somebody.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I gotta I gotta give because I went to
Speaker 2: the one in Chicago and that it was like, you know,
Speaker 2: it kind of like reinvigorated, like my love for wrestling
Speaker 2: just being there and like having all that. Yeah, man,
Speaker 2: because I was really really into wrestling and like I
Speaker 2: kind of like stopped following and it's not like I'm
Speaker 2: like watching everything now, but I'm like definitely keeping up
Speaker 2: way more now than I was.
Speaker 3: Yeah, at all the events we went to that weekend,
Speaker 3: that was probably my favorite.
Speaker 4: Like Mania was cool, but this year Mania was little underwhelming.
Speaker 1: Well, you went to the Sapoo's Last match or.
Speaker 3: Something that was I picked between going to SmackDown or
Speaker 3: going to that, and I went to SmackDown. Plus I
Speaker 3: probably made the right decisions. That was fucking sixty years old.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I saw you got like bloody. It looked rough.
Speaker 4: Nobody wants to be there for that. Everybody said he
Speaker 4: was like telling everybody how high he was on coke.
Speaker 4: I got I'm really fucked up on coke.
Speaker 3: Like, nobody wants to see a coked out sixty five
Speaker 3: year old guy taking bumps, Well, different types of.
Speaker 1: Bumps, type of bumps.
Speaker 4: Yeah, two things could be true. He's taking bumps in
Speaker 4: different ways.
Speaker 3: So you so you grew up being a wrestling fan,
Speaker 3: you're kind of just kind of getting back into it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know what I'm saying. But I was like
Speaker 1: a really big wrestling fan.
Speaker 2: I used to go to shows with my pops, like
Speaker 2: indie shows, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: So like I was into like all.
Speaker 2: Of that ship, you know what I mean, And and
Speaker 2: like yeah, and it's cool to see how much of
Speaker 2: like an intersection wrestling and hip hop really have, you
Speaker 2: know what I mean.
Speaker 4: Yeah, shout to smoke this.
Speaker 3: I think we're like early and then Westside Gun and
Speaker 3: yeah yeah, and those guys obviously, I mean guns taken
Speaker 3: to another level with the Force Row promotion.
Speaker 4: It's fucking sick.
Speaker 2: It's but there's like a lot of like wrestling like
Speaker 2: references that even go back. Even Grandpop had some lines
Speaker 2: something like the top rope like a super flat snook
Speaker 2: or something.
Speaker 4: I think I think hip hop or synonymous with each other.
Speaker 2: Bro and I always say how similar it is like
Speaker 2: being a wrestlervers being a rapper. As a rapper, you
Speaker 2: could be like a heel or a face, you know
Speaker 2: what I'm saying. And it's like I'm kind of like
Speaker 2: a tweener, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: True, And it's like and a lot of a lot
Speaker 3: of rappers like there's obviously what you present to the
Speaker 3: public is one thing, and there's obviously like some like
Speaker 3: I feel like a lot of wrestlers are like there's
Speaker 3: a lot of like their true person, whoever they are
Speaker 3: away from TV, in.
Speaker 4: Their character, but there's still like you have to.
Speaker 1: Play up the character right right, right, you know.
Speaker 4: The best of artists is like.
Speaker 3: You know, at the end of the day, like when
Speaker 3: you're when you're on camera, when you're on that stage,
Speaker 3: you got to get into that mode.
Speaker 2: Right yeah, Like you know, the best way I'll say
Speaker 2: it is like you know, like Kurby your enthusiasm, you
Speaker 2: know what I'm saying, Like that Larry David is really
Speaker 2: Larry David in that show, but like he's he's up
Speaker 2: in the ante, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: Great, you're curping of course.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 4: I think it's the one comedy ever.
Speaker 1: It's probably the funniest.
Speaker 4: So like that funny short.
Speaker 2: Yeah, like that show like genuinely makes me like laugh
Speaker 2: outlas that show and always Sonny like.
Speaker 4: Always Sonny, you know what's funny?
Speaker 1: Always Sonny is like six.
Speaker 4: Sometimes I think I knocked.
Speaker 3: Out the first four or five seasons, and then it
Speaker 3: just got to the point where I was like, this
Speaker 3: is a lot, all.
Speaker 2: Right, but what would you like? What's your like, like favorite.
Speaker 1: Show show of all time?
Speaker 4: Show show? Yeah, the Wire?
Speaker 1: Okay, so I like.
Speaker 4: The Wire, Breaking Bad. Those are my main two.
Speaker 3: I love Game of Thrones, but the last season and
Speaker 3: a half sucked, dick so kind of me.
Speaker 4: Huh. Sopranos was up there for sure.
Speaker 3: Soprano's in the top five, And then I would probably
Speaker 3: say I just finished.
Speaker 2: Me and my girl I was Breaking Bad like a
Speaker 2: minute ago, like we were obviously laid on it. Yo,
Speaker 2: that's show so better amazing. Well she she got bored
Speaker 2: watching that.
Speaker 4: See, that's the same thing with my girl.
Speaker 3: I tried to get into season when it's not enough action,
Speaker 3: but you got to get through the first season, I.
Speaker 2: Mean the second we got to like season two is
Speaker 2: still kind of slow, but like I don't like watching
Speaker 2: it alone, Like I'd rather.
Speaker 4: Just right like right.
Speaker 3: There was a show that my most slept on show ever.
Speaker 3: There was a show, the first show on FX that
Speaker 3: pops was called The Shield. Michael cheek List, the bald
Speaker 3: fuck who played.
Speaker 1: Michael cheek List.
Speaker 4: This guy the Shield.
Speaker 1: That's a crazy name, you.
Speaker 3: Know, because he played he played the the motherfucking dude
Speaker 3: from Fantastic Four, This bald fuck.
Speaker 4: You've never seen this guy? This is the actor. Hold on,
Speaker 4: oh he was in Fantastic four.
Speaker 1: Okay, okay, but.
Speaker 3: Anyway, watch The Shield so good also shot out well
Speaker 3: comedy wise, he's bounding downs up.
Speaker 2: There, he's pounding down as funny as Righteous Gemstones.
Speaker 3: Pretty got him good and Righteous Gems Righteous Gemstones. It's
Speaker 3: Danny McBride's new show on HBO.
Speaker 1: Hilarious.
Speaker 3: Okay, but I would put Curb the Boondocks funny. Yeah,
Speaker 3: those are my two for sure, but Curbs the Goat,
Speaker 3: Curb when it comes to comedy, the.
Speaker 2: Thing that's really good at and I feel like all
Speaker 2: good right, like all good? Like just anything does this
Speaker 2: is it like makes you relate to their character in
Speaker 2: a way.
Speaker 1: That you feel like you shouldn't, but you still relate
Speaker 1: to them.
Speaker 2: And that's the thing is like in a lot of
Speaker 2: these situations, like Larry logically isn't wrong.
Speaker 4: He's not wrong, yes, and then it's like you.
Speaker 2: Know, and then sometimes it's overreaction, but it's also just
Speaker 2: like he refuses to be the bigger person, which still
Speaker 2: is something that a lot of people relate to, so
Speaker 2: or they want to.
Speaker 4: I wish they damn, I wish.
Speaker 1: I could be like Larry and just yeah, man.
Speaker 4: Lonely life. Larry lives man and Cheryl left him. That's hilarry, man,
Speaker 4: you know it's funny. I haven't watched the finale yet.
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't watch a ton of the new episode.
Speaker 3: Oh I've watched every episode except the last one. I
Speaker 3: don't want to tell I watched like up to like season.
Speaker 3: I want to say, like twelve or thirteen. I don't
Speaker 3: know if there's thirteen seasons. I think I think the
Speaker 3: last season was twelve or thirteen. You might be right,
Speaker 3: but nonetheless, finish, I mean, dude, the last season is amazing.
Speaker 3: They yeah, there's it's good, and.
Speaker 2: When I rewatch it, I just really go through like
Speaker 2: the first probably six.
Speaker 4: Jeff's wife Susie.
Speaker 3: She has a she's on a bunch of billboards and
Speaker 3: they start spray painting dicks coming out of her mouth.
Speaker 1: Oh nice, it's so good. That's crazy.
Speaker 3: It's so good. Shout out to Larry David. How's the
Speaker 3: road been. Any any crazy experiences on.
Speaker 1: Tour so far? Nothing like insane? Insane?
Speaker 4: Are you going to eat okay on the road, because
Speaker 4: I feel like.
Speaker 1: You're touring you eat?
Speaker 2: I mean I eat like shit anyways, Like you know
Speaker 2: what I'm saying, Like, I really gotta change my diet
Speaker 2: up a little bit. But it hasn't been that crazy
Speaker 2: change yeah.
Speaker 1: To everything, but you you know what I'm saying. But
Speaker 1: nothing really crazy.
Speaker 2: The New York show was we had a fight on
Speaker 2: stage and shit like that, an actual fight.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I brought like thirty people on your set during
Speaker 1: my set?
Speaker 4: What the fuck?
Speaker 1: It was lit?
Speaker 2: And the show continued to showing on and I crowdsurved
Speaker 2: after that.
Speaker 4: Who won the fight? Nobody?
Speaker 2: Uh?
Speaker 1: Do you want the whole breakdown?
Speaker 4: Yeah, so what happened? Thirty people are on stage.
Speaker 1: So I bring a whole lot of people down stage.
Speaker 2: That baby's already you know what I'm saying anyways, I'm
Speaker 2: not gonna name anybody name, but anyway, so, like some
Speaker 2: dude is on the stage, producer who has worked with
Speaker 2: a lot of my friends. He's really drunk and he's
Speaker 2: bumping into the fucking DJ controller and people are kind
Speaker 2: of like, yo, like straighten up a.
Speaker 4: Little bit, bro Like, like you're fucking with the show.
Speaker 1: Right, you know what I'm saying, Like chill out a
Speaker 1: little man.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you guys got his laptop, you know what I mean?
Speaker 2: All right, and he's like too drunk to kind of realize,
Speaker 2: and I got I got a home.
Speaker 1: And he was very serious about it, you know, just
Speaker 1: staying in.
Speaker 2: Line correct and uh, you know, he didn't really take
Speaker 2: too kind of there, and he started kind of like
Speaker 2: pressing him on stage like because he was He asked
Speaker 2: him nicely, and then I think he said something back
Speaker 2: and then he was about to like fuck him up
Speaker 2: on stage. And then another one of my homies realized
Speaker 2: and kind of like pushed them to the back of
Speaker 2: the stage.
Speaker 1: Mind you I'm performing.
Speaker 2: I didn't realize for like a hot second, and there
Speaker 2: was kind of like a whose man's is this check?
Speaker 2: Life of tom My Man, Life of Tom comes through,
Speaker 2: grabs the homie off stage, kind of throws him outside,
Speaker 2: and then uh continued outside. I think the main thing
Speaker 2: that I heard popped about it was someone was like, yo,
Speaker 2: you was a boy the fuck up SCO set and
Speaker 2: he was like fux go set and was like word
Speaker 2: and then I heard he was getting the ship kicked
Speaker 2: out of him outside.
Speaker 4: What's unfortunately? Yeah, hey listen, if you're drunk on stage.
Speaker 1: You gotta be respectful. It's an opportunity. You know that
Speaker 1: look like you know.
Speaker 4: Is the ultimate whose man is at this moment?
Speaker 1: It was like a hip hop show, is this guy?
Speaker 1: Was he with right? Exactly? He definitely was with me
Speaker 1: guy exactly.
Speaker 2: And sometimes you know the green room at rap shows,
Speaker 2: no but Sobs is definitely similar vibe shout outs to SOB's.
Speaker 2: I performed there plenty of times, but you know, like
Speaker 2: at them New York hip hop shows, sometimes the green
Speaker 2: room is not as well monitored as it should be,
Speaker 2: and we've seen it happen time and time again. So
Speaker 2: it's just everybody was fine, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 2: And Uh, life goes on and we started a great set,
Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: Shout out to shout out to that night man. Everybody
Speaker 1: was dead. That was crazy.
Speaker 3: Uh, there's no way you were in the studio with
Speaker 3: Conway in this one. Huh, how to be an email now?
Speaker 1: I wasn't.
Speaker 2: But my manager Selim is very very close with him.
Speaker 3: I just know Conway very very well, and I know
Speaker 3: that the likeliness of you being in the studio with.
Speaker 2: And it was funny because because it's funny, right, So
Speaker 2: my thing with the Conway versus so Salem and him
Speaker 2: are very close. And I met Conway probably six or
Speaker 2: seven times. Yeah, great guy, like very very like you
Speaker 2: know and like small doses. Yeah, he's a very solid dude, bro,
Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying. He's always been very cool
Speaker 2: to me. But you know, I met him a couple
Speaker 2: of times with Selim and a couple of times with
Speaker 2: Static and whatever. Like every time I met him kind
Speaker 2: of like was like more familiar with me or whatever,
Speaker 2: and I like Selim like asked him, like, yo, you
Speaker 2: could lace this up.
Speaker 1: He sent the verse over in like a day, and
Speaker 1: I'm thinking.
Speaker 4: That's a good turn around time for him.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, no, he blessed it, you know
Speaker 2: him and Seleem is super tight and you know, the
Speaker 2: racket is dope, so you know it was it was cool.
Speaker 1: You know, he's just super super blessed us.
Speaker 4: You know, have you been a Buffalo.
Speaker 1: I have not been to Buffalo.
Speaker 4: I've been.
Speaker 1: Is it how is it?
Speaker 4: It's what everyone thinks Cleveland and Detroit is.
Speaker 1: You know, I was gonna say, is it Detroit?
Speaker 4: Like, No, Detroit's fire.
Speaker 1: No.
Speaker 3: I've been to Buffalo and hung out with Conway for
Speaker 3: a day and Gun and uh went around the city.
Speaker 3: I was on the East side of Buffalo with Conway,
Speaker 3: like hanging out in front of his mom's house and
Speaker 3: ship like. But it is exactly what you think Detroit is.
Speaker 3: But then you go to Detroit and you're like, oh,
Speaker 3: this ship is kind of nice.
Speaker 4: Buffalo is the real Detroit, right, Buffalo's.
Speaker 3: Grindy for that ship just looks like Terriff's hit Buffalo
Speaker 3: like one hundreds.
Speaker 4: Like Tarriff's been hitting Buffalo dog like it's cooked over there.
Speaker 4: You know, they got some good food over there, though.
Speaker 1: I believe. Yeah, they got mad so named after like
Speaker 1: food spots.
Speaker 4: You know, yeah, they got good food and there's very uh,
Speaker 4: there's very uh I thaw. I mean they got them
Speaker 4: all nice. Yeah, that's what's up.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I didn't know to get back to the Conway ship.
Speaker 2: If you're still want to h yeah yeah, man, oh good,
Speaker 2: oh good, I'd be doing the same ship. But yeah,
Speaker 2: so I didn't know if he like, you know, I knew,
Speaker 2: like he sent the ship back. It was like Conway
Speaker 2: Exployd's the ship was titled. But I didn't know if he, like,
Speaker 2: I knew my name with my face.
Speaker 4: Because he met you so much, You're like, does he
Speaker 4: know who I am? Even though we met so much?
Speaker 4: Do you know who did who? He did the song
Speaker 4: for exactly right?
Speaker 2: But then I like hopped on his IG live one
Speaker 2: time and he just was like, Yo, my little bro
Speaker 2: on the IG live, Man, I just laced up his album. Yo.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. I gotta go fuck with
Speaker 1: my man, Lord Scot.
Speaker 2: Yeah. And then he posted it when they dropped and
Speaker 2: all that showed love, you know what I'm saying. So
Speaker 2: that that was cool, you know what I mean? And
Speaker 2: I was like, all right, so you know, and I
Speaker 2: still haven't really seen him since then, but I definitely
Speaker 2: gotta like thank him because that's one of the best,
Speaker 2: one of the great one of the best verses.
Speaker 4: On and Conray is one of the things just the
Speaker 4: great period.
Speaker 1: Yeah, man, you know what I'm saying, super super dope dude.
Speaker 3: Man, how crazy is the Is the WED game calmed
Speaker 3: down a bit out there in New York because I
Speaker 3: know they've been spraying the fucking turfs on packs and
Speaker 3: ship and.
Speaker 2: I mean, bro, I'm from the Heights, man, I get
Speaker 2: that real Hayes. And if I'm not getting that real Hayes,
Speaker 2: I'm getting like good rapid weed.
Speaker 3: You know, he's pasted to fucking some of these packs
Speaker 3: with like a paper town, like the ship rubs off. Yeah,
Speaker 3: I feel like that's a very much East Coast thing
Speaker 3: though it is.
Speaker 2: And then, don't get me wrong, a lot of people
Speaker 2: still smoke that ship, but I don't smoke that shit.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. Shout out to my ask
Speaker 1: the club family. They always keep me right.
Speaker 4: Yeah, the Wed game in New York's a wild, wild West.
Speaker 1: Bro.
Speaker 3: It's like how La was like fifteen years ago. Fucking
Speaker 3: just tables and parks. Dude, you go to a smoke shop,
Speaker 3: they got shrooms there, they got kinds of ship.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they definitely do this. Rooms in the smoke shop.
Speaker 1: Is as definitely.
Speaker 3: A crazy though, because like you used to not be
Speaker 3: able to have I remember being I'd be so paranoid
Speaker 3: having weed in New York back in the day.
Speaker 1: I mean, I got arrested for weed like twice before.
Speaker 3: Things just changed overnight. We were there the day it changed.
Speaker 3: We were in New York the day they got legalized.
Speaker 3: I left like three or four eighth's just on the
Speaker 3: corner somewhere.
Speaker 4: Some delivery guy grabbed them.
Speaker 1: I enjoy it.
Speaker 4: It's all l a weed. I'm about to take a flight.
Speaker 4: I'm not flying with all this week. Yeah shout outs.
Speaker 3: So you have the edible line going, yeah, you a
Speaker 3: big edible guy. In general, it's dangerous.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 4: I mean, I just to me, like I'd rather.
Speaker 1: Eat Yeah, I would rather eat rooms. But you know,
Speaker 1: these are definitely good, and I've had I've had them
Speaker 1: a few times.
Speaker 4: It's very possible.
Speaker 3: Like the thing about eating weed that I realized pretty
Speaker 3: quickly was my tolerance for eating it. I could eat
Speaker 3: a whole eighth of mushrooms, like of gummies or whatever,
Speaker 3: and I'll be straight. I mean, I might have an
Speaker 3: interesting day, but if I have three of these I'm
Speaker 3: fucking cooked.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm like fucked.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I mean sometimes it cuts you off guard.
Speaker 3: Man, I can't ey weed. Man, that's a problem with me.
Speaker 3: It's just always been a problem. I either pukin or
Speaker 3: I start tripping balls.
Speaker 1: And that's an antique.
Speaker 4: You know, it's some merch exactly. I like the merch man.
Speaker 4: How many more dates you got on the tour tomorrow?
Speaker 4: And that's it. I'm flying a Florida in the morning,
Speaker 4: going to Tampa shows. Not nothing tonight. You got an
Speaker 4: off night tonight?
Speaker 1: Yeah, man, just this that I'm I'm supposed to go
Speaker 1: shoot a DVD coutour.
Speaker 3: Okay with my man justin fire. Well, listen man, the
Speaker 3: album is out Piff. You say you got vinyls and
Speaker 3: all that.
Speaker 2: Too, Yeah, I got vinyl Yeah, I see. I mean
Speaker 2: all this ship's available on fatbeats dot com. But you know,
Speaker 2: the MERT's been moving on tour. So Fat Beats Man
Speaker 2: a fat beat man, Chris Atlas outside to Monsto.
Speaker 4: Yeah, Fat Beats a legendary record store.
Speaker 1: Absolutely, man, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: And they had one in New York too, they did, Yeah, absolutely,
Speaker 4: I know they do a lot of vinyl distribution and ship.
Speaker 4: So that's hard.
Speaker 1: Yeah, man, it's a legendary stamp. You know what I mean?
Speaker 3: There it is, man, my guy, go watch the By
Speaker 3: the way, he just did a freestyle too. You guys
Speaker 3: got to watch that over over fucking John Cena's theme song.
Speaker 3: And then you brought me some cards. Let's do a
Speaker 3: little let's crack up. Let's see what it is, man,
Speaker 3: Let's see what we have. We have e O M
Speaker 3: TV rap cards.
Speaker 2: Shouts out to Rewinding, Grand Rapids, Michigan Grand Rabbits.
Speaker 1: Let's see who good city man. Yeah, let's see.
Speaker 4: Yea, let's see. Let's see.
Speaker 3: Okay, we got e P M D Okay, nice Ll
Speaker 3: cool Ji Public Enemy interviewing Chuck d in two weeks.
Speaker 3: That should be done, slick Rick Okay, so so far
Speaker 3: just heat doctor dre and ed lover. Young black teenagers
Speaker 3: the white young black teenagers for people who don't know,
Speaker 3: young black teenagers are white guys. I think DJ scribbles
Speaker 3: in this group. I think someone's in this group.
Speaker 1: Who's in it? Who is it? Is it? Scribble? Yeah?
Speaker 4: DJ scribble, yep, Bell BIV devou BBD tone lok Wow.
Speaker 3: Who was in a movie called blank check when I
Speaker 3: was a kid. Disney movie Fab five Freddy, the host
Speaker 3: of MTV reps krs the blast master Man shot. That's
Speaker 3: a good pack. That looks like an instant winner. You
Speaker 3: got to send that in Moorfi wow being it.
Speaker 1: Oh No, I don't think that he means you're a winner.
Speaker 1: All right.
Speaker 4: We got one more pack loser, one more pack of
Speaker 4: card mc hammer nice.
Speaker 3: I hav an mc hammer Barbie somewhere. I think it's
Speaker 3: behind that record down there. M LL cool J again,
Speaker 3: that's my guy right there, ll Big Daddy Kane. All right, Uh,
Speaker 3: super levels ce and casting over Rudd. I'm not gonna lie,
Speaker 3: not familiar.
Speaker 4: This is a this is a good one. Vanilla Ice.
Speaker 1: There you go.
Speaker 4: We got Vanilla Ice and mc hammer in the same pack.
Speaker 4: Run DMC.
Speaker 3: This was definitely like, uh the run DMC era that
Speaker 3: doesn't get talked about enough. Yeah, Houdini Okay, double tone loaks,
Speaker 3: different cut photo. This time was cracking ful. We got
Speaker 3: Boogie down production. So we got carras one MBBD or
Speaker 3: mbdp uh, two Vanilla Ice cards in one pack, different photos.
Speaker 4: Yeah, Vanilla Ice was cracking ship.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Shout out to Vanilla Ice. Man, you know what it
Speaker 4: is some good cards. Thanks for the gifts, man, no doubt. Brother,
Speaker 4: thanks for having me go go support the new album.
Speaker 1: If I know, man, go get the vinyl, Go get
Speaker 1: the CD.
Speaker 4: We'll get the cassette on Fat Beats support support. You
Speaker 4: got cassettes too, Come on, man, go support this guy.
Speaker 4: Man Lord Scart, appreciate you pulling up, brother Boom