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Speaker 1: a production of I Heart Radio. Hey everybody, Welcome to

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Speaker 1: the Large nerdron Collider podcast, the podcast that's all about

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Speaker 1: the geeky things happening in the world around us and

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Speaker 1: how excited we are about them. I'm Ariel Castion, and

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Speaker 1: with me, as always is my super awesome, super original

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Speaker 1: an original idea. I'm gonna ask you a question. You're

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Speaker 1: the world War Z is so accurate and how how

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Speaker 1: these things play out? Um, because it's more of a

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Speaker 1: even worse. Um, and the movie is a zombie action movie. Yeah. Well,

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Speaker 1: and and a big thing like the story is told

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Speaker 1: So it's people thinking back to when it was going

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Speaker 1: into its peak, but from the perspective of the story teller,

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Speaker 1: the worst has already happened. Yeah. Yeah. And then you've

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Speaker 1: got the Watch, which you talked about in a previous

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Speaker 1: episode Trying, which is based off of Guards Cards by

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Speaker 1: Terry Pratchett. Right, yeah, it's it's based off the night

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Speaker 1: Watch series of books, but mainly Guards Guards. It's got

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Speaker 1: why would you why would you make these choices? Because

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Speaker 1: source material is alienating the built in audience. But if

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Speaker 1: fans will want to watch it, even though we really

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Speaker 1: want to tell our own story. But then, I mean,

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Speaker 1: you're going to alienate those fans and thus any reaction

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Speaker 1: all on its own, is that the fans of the

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Speaker 1: series are rejecting the adaptation you've made. Um. I think

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Speaker 1: if I watched the Watch without ever having read any

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Speaker 1: Terry Pratchett, I would have thought it was very unusual

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Speaker 1: but not particularly well told or interesting, like like it's unusual.

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Speaker 1: It's kind of like a David don't get on me

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Speaker 1: David Lynch fans. I think David Lynch has worked brilliant,

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Speaker 1: but it's like a David Lynch thing in the sense

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Speaker 1: just trying to get my head wrapped around what's happening. Now.

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Speaker 1: The fact that I've read Pratchett tells me a little

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Speaker 1: bit more about what's going on, But the changes that

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Speaker 1: of Pratchett is only somewhat helpful in sussing out what's happening.

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Speaker 1: And you know, they leave out entire characters who are

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Speaker 1: the in the show. Um. Yeah, it's one of those

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Speaker 1: that I find particularly perplexed because I can't figure out

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Speaker 1: that are bound to alienate the fan base. Yeah. So

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Speaker 1: we've talked about some stories that are close enough that

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Speaker 1: they should be titled after their source material, and we've

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Speaker 1: talked about some that are so far away that they

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Speaker 1: really shouldn't. What about Disney because Disney writes that line

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Speaker 1: for me of and I know we need to wrap

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Speaker 1: but uh, Disney rides that line of just that they

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Speaker 1: it that original story anymore? I got you? Yeah, Like

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Speaker 1: like all the fairy tales, I mean, obviously they take

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Speaker 1: all the hard edges off the fairy tales, right if

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Speaker 1: you read Grimm's fairy Tales, I mean it's called the

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Speaker 1: Brother's Grim right there, the Brothers Grim. But they can

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Speaker 1: be pretty grim fairy tales. Uh. You know, people get

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Speaker 1: their feet chopped off and ice pecked out and stuff.

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Speaker 1: You don't see that in the Disney story. I I

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Speaker 1: mean Disney, for much of its history, is known for

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Speaker 1: sanitizing a lot of stories in an effort to create

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Speaker 1: a particular kind of feel, right, Like you can see

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Speaker 1: a lot of those classic Disney movies and detect like, yeah,

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Speaker 1: this is all trying to create that sort of sense

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Speaker 1: of wonder and magic. And the bad guys are easily

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Speaker 1: identifiable and they are bad, and the good guys are

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Speaker 1: really really good, and you know, the good guys will

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Speaker 1: win in the end, and nothing terrible will happen to

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Speaker 1: anybody that's permanent except the bad guy who will probably die.

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Speaker 1: Um that's about it. Uh, I'm okay with it because

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Speaker 1: I know going into it what I'm going to get, Like,

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Speaker 1: I know, the Disney's not going to break the mold

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Speaker 1: on that. Um, you're not gonna have some morally ambiguous

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Speaker 1: characters in there. For the most part, no one's gonna

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Speaker 1: get their eyes pecked out. Uh. If I want that,

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Speaker 1: I can go back and read the original fairy Tales.

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Speaker 1: So I just accept it as a totally different take

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Speaker 1: on the basic plot points of a story, and some

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Speaker 1: cases it gets way the heck away from the basic

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Speaker 1: plot points there. You're like, Okay, yeah, you've got some

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Speaker 1: dwarves in here, but this is not snow White. Yeah yeah, Well, um,

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Speaker 1: now we're going to adapt some things of our own. Uh.

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Speaker 1: And I don't know if they're either of our adaptations

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Speaker 1: will live up to their namesakes, but we're going to

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Speaker 1: give it a go. But first we're going to take

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Speaker 1: this quick break. Hi. I'm Hillary Clinton, and I'm excited

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Speaker 1: Lamar and Morris to recap our hit television series New Girl.

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Speaker 1: Join us every Monday on the Welcome to Our Show podcast,

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Speaker 1: where we'll share behind the scenes stories of your favorite

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Speaker 1: New Girl episodes, revealed the truth behind the legendary game

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Speaker 1: Plus each week you'll hear hilarious stories like this at

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Speaker 1: your face. I feel like I pitched that joke. I

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Speaker 1: And as you know or maybe you don't, we like

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Speaker 1: to mash up two different properties into one and find

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Speaker 1: out what happens. And this week I chose the properties

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Speaker 1: because I had a joke in my head and I

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Speaker 1: decided that I did to write a whole piece around.

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Speaker 1: By the way, this is how my brain works. I

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Speaker 1: had to write a whole piece around the joke. So

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Speaker 1: we are combining the world of of Gotham City, not

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Speaker 1: the home of characters like Batman, Joker, Arkham Asylum and

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Speaker 1: all that kind of stuff. With the Veggie Tales, a

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Speaker 1: Bible stories and songs and saying awesome, awesome songs. Um. So,

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Speaker 1: since you have this brilliant joke, Oh it's terrible, you're

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Speaker 1: the vegetable cart for this one, I'm gonna I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: go first. Yes, So this is bat Tails Positive Fables

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Speaker 1: for a Caped Crusader Chapter one. Yes, it's an anthology,

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Speaker 1: all right. Batman was feeling blue. You see, the denizens

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Speaker 1: of Gotham City, We're feeling that their hero was far

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Speaker 1: eating your vegetables. They even took away his weapons, so

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Speaker 1: instead of batterings, he would throw bananas. It was torture,

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Speaker 1: but it was working. However, poison Ivy got wind of

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Speaker 1: this and she decided that she would not have this.

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Speaker 1: In Gotham's darkest days, people would sorrow eat fast food

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Speaker 1: left and right, and her pants plants were allowed to thrive.

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Speaker 1: But now now that Batman and Gotham were cleaning up

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Speaker 1: their act and their diet, her plants were being murderously killed, yes,

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Speaker 1: murderously killed. She broke into Wayne manch well the bat

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Speaker 1: Cave Wayne Mansion uh one of those two, and animated

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Speaker 1: all of the plant matter in Batman's fridge to attack him.

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Speaker 1: There was a lot that men have had gifted tons

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Speaker 1: of produce baskets, more than he could eat from all

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Speaker 1: of his good will work and in the agriculture business.

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Speaker 1: Slowly but surely, because they don't really have legs, the

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Speaker 1: animated vegetables and fruits began to creep up on Batman,

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Speaker 1: seeking to bludgeon him to death with their soft, almost

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Speaker 1: ripe bodies. Batman turned and saw the parrotus just in time.

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Speaker 1: He was just about to make guacamole out of them

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Speaker 1: when he remembered that he was on a broadcast to

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Speaker 1: a bunch of children, teaching them about playing outside. So,

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Speaker 1: but grudgingly, he decided he tried to make peace with

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Speaker 1: these animated vegetables, uh, instead of making a massacre, and

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Speaker 1: he addressed the sentient flora. He thought, surely, if these

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Speaker 1: things are good for you, then they must be good

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Speaker 1: and that is just as dangerous. And soon Batman took

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Speaker 1: forth with his new arsenal. He had the grapes of wrath,

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Speaker 1: which would incapacitate villains with their smell, because, as you know,

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Speaker 1: they never take a bath, a killer tomato named Bob,

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Speaker 1: who would shut down any bad joke, along with French

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Speaker 1: peas who would incapacitate you with bad jokes and laughter.

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Speaker 1: He also had a cucumber, who, being mostly water, had

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Speaker 1: a psychic connection with the water buffaloes at the Gotham Zoo,

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Speaker 1: and together they vowed to fight crime the right way

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Speaker 1: by speaking kindness and goodness and reason into the villains,

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Speaker 1: and surprise easingly, the villains were so thrown by this

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Speaker 1: good week. Well, I can tell you that my version

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