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Speaker 1: Crime Stories with Nancy Grace. Beautiful boy Noel just six

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Speaker 1: years old? Did his mother actually sell him at a market?

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Speaker 1: I'm Nancy Grace. This is Crime Stories. Thank you for

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Speaker 1: being with us here at Fox Nation and Sirius XM

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Speaker 1: one eleven. Police now on a desperate search for a

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Speaker 1: six year old little boy. Take a listen to our

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Speaker 1: friends at Fox four. Police and Everman south of Fort

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Speaker 1: This is Noel Rodriguez Alvarez alongside Cindy Cecilia and Rodriguez Singh,

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Speaker 1: who police are looking for in connection with his abduction.

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Speaker 1: Rodrigue Singh has tattoos across her chest and her last

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Speaker 1: known location was Everman. Now police say she's driving a

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Speaker 1: Grade twenty twelve Lay Silverado, which is also shown on

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Speaker 1: six year old boy is in grave or immediate danger

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Speaker 1: and if you have any information regarding his abduction, called

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Speaker 1: the Everman Police Department now Abduction missing. Was he abducted

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Speaker 1: or was he sold? Now? Take a listen to our

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Speaker 1: friends at k X as a search warrant released this

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Speaker 1: week raises more questions about what happened to a missing

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Speaker 1: six year old Everman boy. The warrant allowed police to

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Speaker 1: search the home where the little boy was living last fall.

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Speaker 1: Noel Rodriguez Alvarez's family officially reported him missing late last month,

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Speaker 1: but the paperwork shows relatives had not seen him in months.

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Speaker 1: It also shows his mother told a family member she

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Speaker 1: sold him to someone at a grocery store. Sold him

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Speaker 1: to someone at the grocery store like a candlot. How

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Speaker 1: Take a listen. I feel like he's sold her. I

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Speaker 1: saying this happened the day after Thanksgiving to December six,

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Speaker 1: was the week after my son legally got adopted on

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Speaker 1: the news, you know what I mean. And he knew

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Speaker 1: what my son looked like. He you know, kicked out

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Speaker 1: to my daughter's brother. So he saw that, and I

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Speaker 1: do it illegally. You know you are hearing the biological

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Speaker 1: mother of little Harmony Montgomery, the little girl goes missing.

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Speaker 1: We believe sometime before Thanksgiving. Now take a listen to

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Speaker 1: our France a crime online dot com. Did a mother

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Speaker 1: actually sell her child to get money to go on

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Speaker 1: a Disney trip? A new mom is denying that she

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Speaker 1: sold her newborn son so that she could afford to

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Speaker 1: take her other two sons to Disney World. Bridgie Wismer's

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Speaker 1: thirty three, accused of selling her one month old son

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Speaker 1: for fifteen thousand dollars. The first reports about the sale

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Speaker 1: to police came from Wismer's grandmother. Police investigated, but they

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Speaker 1: couldn't substantiate the baby selling accusation. Not long after, police

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Speaker 1: got another tip that led them to John Gavaugh. The

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Speaker 1: fifty four year old and Wisemer were caught on surveillance

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Speaker 1: tape when they met to finalize the deal. Wisemer reportedly

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Speaker 1: didn't want the child to finalize the deal. It sounds

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Speaker 1: like the mom is selling a used car and then

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Speaker 1: the buyer nearly backed out. Selling your child for fifteen

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Speaker 1: thousand dollars to fund a trip to Disney again. I

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Speaker 1: Nancy Grayson, this is Crime Stories. Thank you for being

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Speaker 1: with us. I've got an all star panel of guests

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Speaker 1: by First, I want to go to Sarah Ford, Legal

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Speaker 1: director or South Carolina Victims Assistants Network. Sarah, have you

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Speaker 1: ever heard in real life of a mother selling or

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Speaker 1: trying to sell her child? You know, Dancy, It's something

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Speaker 1: than we can imagine. Trafficking most often comes from family members,

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Speaker 1: family members selling their own children. You know, it's absolutely

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Speaker 1: horrific to think about it, but it happens to thousands

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Speaker 1: be more worldwide every single day. You know, I was

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Speaker 1: just thinking about the mom that reportedly sells for child

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Speaker 1: to fund a trip to Disney to a middle aged man.

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Speaker 1: What does she think he was going to do with

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Speaker 1: that child? Straight out to my long time on friend

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Speaker 1: and colleague, Daphne Young. Daphne the national Chief Communications Officer

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Speaker 1: at Child Help. If you don't know about child Help,

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Speaker 1: I implore you to go online to childhelp dot Org

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Speaker 1: and find out what they do every single day twenty

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Speaker 1: the world. Daphne Young, have you ever heard of a

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Speaker 1: woman selling her child. Not no, have I heard about it.

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Speaker 1: to me, that sounds like an act of sex trafficking.

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Speaker 1: we see how the victims come for advocacy center, children

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Speaker 1: take that child hospital. So I sold that child into

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Speaker 1: quote unquote is just a cover up for something darker

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Speaker 1: that's happened to that child. To doctor Dana Anderson, joining

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Speaker 1: US forensic psychologist and expert, you can find doctor Dana

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Speaker 1: Anderson at psychology doctor dot com. Doctor Dana, I agree

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Speaker 1: with everything Daphne Young just said, except for one word

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Speaker 1: that word is delusional. Under the law, if an individual,

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Speaker 1: a defendant, say the mom of Noel, has a delusion,

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Speaker 1: that could be deemed to be insane. But this woman

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Speaker 1: why I do not believe that this woman is insane.

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Speaker 1: Take a listen to our cut. Nineteen twenty twenty two,

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Speaker 1: Cindy obtained passport photographs of all the children living with

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Speaker 1: her except for Noel. On November two, Cindy applied for

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Speaker 1: passports for herself and all six of the children except

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Speaker 1: for Noel. Interviews suggested that Cindy began trying to explain

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Speaker 1: that she told. Cindy had reportedly told stories that Noel

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Speaker 1: doctor Dana Anderson, forensic psychologist, have you ever gotten a passport.

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Speaker 1: I have, we have one right now, Okay, So you

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Speaker 1: Here's a woman that not only sat there and went

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Speaker 1: she has got her head sewn on properly, would you agree? Yes, So,

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Speaker 1: getting back to talking about delusion, this sort of that delusion,

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Speaker 1: mind that she said Noel was evil, possessed, how to

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Speaker 1: It is? You know what. This woman is not insane.

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Speaker 1: or functioning under a delusion. She just didn't want this child.

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Speaker 1: we continue to investigate the disappearance of Noel, one of

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Speaker 1: our top priorities was to determine the accurate timeline. Investigators

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Speaker 1: other professional appointments were missed near this timeline and following,

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Speaker 1: to receive government benefits for Noel. Investigators learned that near

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Speaker 1: COVID Crime Stories with Nancy Grace okay. Dorian Bond is

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Speaker 1: joining a private detective owner of Bond Investigations, Inc. They're

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Speaker 1: in Texas. He specifically is in Dallas. Dorian, thank you

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Speaker 1: find Dorian Bond at Bond Investigations dot com. Dorian. Any

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Speaker 1: well what she's doing You're exactly right. He knows what

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Speaker 1: I sure as heat would? And number two, what was

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Speaker 1: Little Noel's disability? So it's unclear if the neighbor reported

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Speaker 1: for possible remains of six year old Noel Rodriguez Alvarez

429
00:27:01,520 --> 00:27:04,920
Speaker 1: behind the home of Charles Parson, where the child lived

430
00:27:04,920 --> 00:27:08,479
Speaker 1: with his family, kissed Up and Louth. Noel's mother, Cindy

431
00:27:08,600 --> 00:27:12,440
Speaker 1: Rodriguez Singh, and her new husband, are Shdeep Singh, fled

432
00:27:12,480 --> 00:27:15,800
Speaker 1: the country to India last month with six of Noel's

433
00:27:15,840 --> 00:27:20,200
Speaker 1: siblings after Noel was reported missing. So not only do

434
00:27:20,400 --> 00:27:27,240
Speaker 1: police David Sedentry rule out Mommy's theory, her story that

435
00:27:27,960 --> 00:27:32,320
Speaker 1: Noel was with the biodad in Mexico, they track him

436
00:27:32,359 --> 00:27:34,760
Speaker 1: down and find out he's never even met his son.

437
00:27:36,040 --> 00:27:40,399
Speaker 1: They also say that they rule out Mommy's story that

438
00:27:40,560 --> 00:27:44,520
Speaker 1: she sold Noel. How did they rule that story out?

439
00:27:44,600 --> 00:27:47,760
Speaker 1: So they didn't get into specifics, but you have to

440
00:27:47,800 --> 00:27:52,240
Speaker 1: imagine surveillance footage, timeline. I know they've had search warrants

441
00:27:52,280 --> 00:27:57,320
Speaker 1: regarding cell phone data, text messages, phone conversations, etc. It

442
00:27:57,359 --> 00:27:59,880
Speaker 1: doesn't appear that they were able to place her at

443
00:28:00,440 --> 00:28:05,160
Speaker 1: that's Fista Market with geo tracking data which we oftentimes

444
00:28:05,320 --> 00:28:10,560
Speaker 1: see youthed in law enforcement, and they have one ruled

445
00:28:10,600 --> 00:28:14,000
Speaker 1: that out. It's my understanding that at the Fiesta Market

446
00:28:14,080 --> 00:28:20,000
Speaker 1: there are surveillance cams and that she was never pictured

447
00:28:20,080 --> 00:28:23,800
Speaker 1: on any of the surveillance, the grainy surveillance footage much

448
00:28:23,920 --> 00:28:28,639
Speaker 1: less with six year old Noel. And also David Sentry

449
00:28:28,760 --> 00:28:32,720
Speaker 1: David Sedentry joining us from Fox four News, there was

450
00:28:32,920 --> 00:28:37,800
Speaker 1: nothing in her texts or emails that would indicate she

451
00:28:37,840 --> 00:28:42,120
Speaker 1: had had any conversation via text or email with anyone

452
00:28:42,160 --> 00:28:46,200
Speaker 1: who was willing to buy Noel. That's my understanding of

453
00:28:46,240 --> 00:28:49,400
Speaker 1: the evidence as it exists right now. Correct. And on

454
00:28:49,440 --> 00:28:51,760
Speaker 1: top of that, this was a theory that was passed

455
00:28:51,800 --> 00:28:54,360
Speaker 1: along to some of her family members who related to

456
00:28:54,440 --> 00:28:58,160
Speaker 1: law enforcement. But family members tell police that when they

457
00:28:58,200 --> 00:29:01,640
Speaker 1: pressed her about this theory that she sold Noel to

458
00:29:01,800 --> 00:29:05,080
Speaker 1: a woman at a Fiesta Market, she couldn't even name

459
00:29:05,280 --> 00:29:07,960
Speaker 1: who the woman was. She couldn't tell family members anything

460
00:29:08,000 --> 00:29:10,800
Speaker 1: about her. All she said was that she sold the

461
00:29:10,880 --> 00:29:13,400
Speaker 1: child to a lady, and that lady threatened to report

462
00:29:13,440 --> 00:29:16,640
Speaker 1: her to CPS if she ever attempted to get Noel back.

463
00:29:16,680 --> 00:29:19,440
Speaker 1: So that was her excuse for Well, I can't contact

464
00:29:19,440 --> 00:29:21,520
Speaker 1: her and follow up on Noel because she said she

465
00:29:21,560 --> 00:29:24,320
Speaker 1: would threaten to report me if I did so. It

466
00:29:24,400 --> 00:29:29,560
Speaker 1: just doesn't make sense. The investigation takes an even darker turn.

467
00:29:29,800 --> 00:29:32,920
Speaker 1: Take a listen to our cut eleven. Our friends at

468
00:29:32,920 --> 00:29:37,840
Speaker 1: foxfor police now say Noel's stepfather disposed a large indoor

469
00:29:37,880 --> 00:29:41,920
Speaker 1: outdoor carpet in a nearby dumpster the evening before they fled.

470
00:29:42,320 --> 00:29:46,080
Speaker 1: Investigators recovered that carpet. Police say that carpet was used

471
00:29:46,120 --> 00:29:49,360
Speaker 1: inside the makeshift shed that was later torn down to

472
00:29:49,400 --> 00:29:54,280
Speaker 1: build a suspicious concrete patio Monday. After removing the patio,

473
00:29:54,640 --> 00:29:57,920
Speaker 1: canines were alerted to the top soil, but no remains

474
00:29:57,920 --> 00:30:00,240
Speaker 1: were found. It does lead us to believe that where

475
00:30:00,280 --> 00:30:02,240
Speaker 1: human remains at one point time in the shed that

476
00:30:02,360 --> 00:30:20,560
Speaker 1: used to exist were now that concrete patio. Since time

477
00:30:20,600 --> 00:30:26,120
Speaker 1: stories with Nancy Grace back to David Sedentry joining us

478
00:30:26,120 --> 00:30:30,120
Speaker 1: out of Dallas, what can you tell me about that

479
00:30:30,560 --> 00:30:34,520
Speaker 1: cement slab? Yeah, And so I'll make this clear because

480
00:30:34,560 --> 00:30:37,200
Speaker 1: I know this is gonna be a bit confusing Noel,

481
00:30:37,600 --> 00:30:40,840
Speaker 1: his mother, his stepfather, and six other children. They were

482
00:30:40,840 --> 00:30:44,120
Speaker 1: living on the back property of a gentleman's home, a

483
00:30:44,200 --> 00:30:48,160
Speaker 1: genterman named Charles Parson. There was a different shed right

484
00:30:48,200 --> 00:30:51,480
Speaker 1: behind the home, a smaller makeshift shed, but that is

485
00:30:51,520 --> 00:30:54,560
Speaker 1: no longer there. For some reason a while back ago,

486
00:30:54,640 --> 00:30:58,200
Speaker 1: that shed was torn down and Cindy herself his mother,

487
00:30:58,760 --> 00:31:03,840
Speaker 1: paid to have a concrete a concrete area poured in

488
00:31:04,120 --> 00:31:07,280
Speaker 1: where that shed had been sitting. Police initially thought that

489
00:31:07,320 --> 00:31:10,280
Speaker 1: was suspicious. Why would this mother pay to have this

490
00:31:10,640 --> 00:31:14,320
Speaker 1: back concrete poured out here? So they dug it up.

491
00:31:14,360 --> 00:31:17,760
Speaker 1: They didn't find anything, but then recently they get a

492
00:31:17,800 --> 00:31:20,680
Speaker 1: tick from someone who says, hey, not too long ago,

493
00:31:20,720 --> 00:31:24,800
Speaker 1: I saw our steps thing Noel's stepfather disposing of a rug.

494
00:31:25,280 --> 00:31:28,760
Speaker 1: He gave police that location. Police recovered the rug, and

495
00:31:28,960 --> 00:31:31,920
Speaker 1: as we were just hearing a second ago, canine dogs,

496
00:31:31,920 --> 00:31:35,360
Speaker 1: who are used to detect possible human renewing remains, were

497
00:31:35,400 --> 00:31:39,480
Speaker 1: alerted to that carpet. And what police ended up doing

498
00:31:39,560 --> 00:31:42,360
Speaker 1: after getting the alert to that carpet is they went

499
00:31:42,480 --> 00:31:44,320
Speaker 1: They assumed that it was part of that shed that

500
00:31:44,360 --> 00:31:46,880
Speaker 1: had been torn down, So they went back to that

501
00:31:47,080 --> 00:31:51,160
Speaker 1: area and they had the canine sniffing again. Canines actually

502
00:31:51,280 --> 00:31:55,560
Speaker 1: this time started to detect human remains in the soil

503
00:31:56,000 --> 00:31:58,800
Speaker 1: for that shed had been sitting. But when they dug

504
00:31:58,840 --> 00:32:01,960
Speaker 1: everything up, they did not find any human remains. So,

505
00:32:02,520 --> 00:32:06,120
Speaker 1: in a nutshell, police believe that rug that had been

506
00:32:06,240 --> 00:32:09,520
Speaker 1: hovering over that soil just elevated slightly above the ground

507
00:32:09,520 --> 00:32:12,160
Speaker 1: in that shed is where remains had been for a while.

508
00:32:12,240 --> 00:32:14,600
Speaker 1: And they believe the dogs since were just strong enough

509
00:32:14,640 --> 00:32:17,080
Speaker 1: where they were still picking up on the soil because

510
00:32:17,080 --> 00:32:20,120
Speaker 1: the remains had been slightly elevated above it on the

511
00:32:20,160 --> 00:32:22,760
Speaker 1: ground of that shed for quite some time. So let

512
00:32:22,800 --> 00:32:25,680
Speaker 1: me understand. Did the pouring of the cement for the

513
00:32:25,720 --> 00:32:29,479
Speaker 1: slab was that to cover up eating afarious activity? In

514
00:32:29,520 --> 00:32:32,200
Speaker 1: your mind? I can tell you what police are saying,

515
00:32:32,480 --> 00:32:35,720
Speaker 1: because the chief of police says it is just very

516
00:32:35,800 --> 00:32:38,800
Speaker 1: suspicious that she would have that slab there. But they

517
00:32:38,800 --> 00:32:41,479
Speaker 1: have dug it up twice and they have not found

518
00:32:41,640 --> 00:32:47,320
Speaker 1: any sort of human remains, so they are lect very puzzled. Okay,

519
00:32:47,360 --> 00:32:51,400
Speaker 1: I want to go back to Mike Hassell, president, founder

520
00:32:51,480 --> 00:32:54,200
Speaker 1: Piece River Canine Search and Rescue. I'm going to just

521
00:32:54,240 --> 00:32:56,960
Speaker 1: throw out two names for everyone to think about. One

522
00:32:57,680 --> 00:33:03,320
Speaker 1: is Chase Masner, a case I personally investigated and covered

523
00:33:04,080 --> 00:33:09,360
Speaker 1: of a young vet who went missing his wife and

524
00:33:09,600 --> 00:33:13,080
Speaker 1: little girls who are left to believe he just abandoned them.

525
00:33:13,600 --> 00:33:18,640
Speaker 1: And fast forward, we begin investigating it here at crime

526
00:33:18,680 --> 00:33:23,000
Speaker 1: stories in crime online dot Com. Bring out canines and

527
00:33:23,160 --> 00:33:26,960
Speaker 1: lo and behold they hit in the back yard off

528
00:33:26,960 --> 00:33:34,080
Speaker 1: his so called best friend who had coincidentally installed a

529
00:33:34,160 --> 00:33:38,200
Speaker 1: patio and a deck, and that's where the remains were

530
00:33:38,520 --> 00:33:42,520
Speaker 1: after months and months and months and months. I'd like

531
00:33:42,600 --> 00:33:45,880
Speaker 1: to also remind everyone of the case of Kristen Smart.

532
00:33:46,800 --> 00:33:51,400
Speaker 1: Her killer and his father just recently convicted, brought attention

533
00:33:51,400 --> 00:33:57,479
Speaker 1: to themselves by constructing a new deck as well, and

534
00:33:57,680 --> 00:34:01,920
Speaker 1: to this day, authorities believe that that is where Kristen's

535
00:34:01,960 --> 00:34:06,160
Speaker 1: body was held, was buried for at least some period

536
00:34:06,200 --> 00:34:10,720
Speaker 1: of time before it was moved. So to you, Mike Hatsell,

537
00:34:11,040 --> 00:34:14,640
Speaker 1: what do you make of mommy having cement pored? It's

538
00:34:14,680 --> 00:34:17,919
Speaker 1: incredibly strange you're talking about cases. One of the first

539
00:34:17,920 --> 00:34:19,759
Speaker 1: cases I ever worked when I moved to Florida was

540
00:34:19,800 --> 00:34:22,040
Speaker 1: a young boy who was missing was found under a

541
00:34:22,040 --> 00:34:26,000
Speaker 1: concrete slab that had been recently pored. We had another

542
00:34:26,080 --> 00:34:28,319
Speaker 1: victim up in the Pasco area that was the same thing.

543
00:34:28,400 --> 00:34:31,200
Speaker 1: He was murdered and put under a concrete slab, So

544
00:34:31,280 --> 00:34:34,040
Speaker 1: one of the mysterious new concrete slab shows up. That's

545
00:34:34,120 --> 00:34:35,960
Speaker 1: usually one of the first places that we want to

546
00:34:36,000 --> 00:34:39,240
Speaker 1: look and let the dogs run because if the body

547
00:34:39,320 --> 00:34:42,000
Speaker 1: is under the concrete slab, the odor will come up

548
00:34:42,040 --> 00:34:44,120
Speaker 1: around the edges of the slab and the dogs will

549
00:34:44,160 --> 00:34:47,440
Speaker 1: pick it up there and indicate. Is that your experience

550
00:34:47,760 --> 00:34:51,920
Speaker 1: very much? Yes, I've had several of these, so it

551
00:34:52,000 --> 00:34:55,319
Speaker 1: is suspicious. Okay, what about it? Dorian Bond. Yeah, concrete

552
00:34:55,400 --> 00:34:57,600
Speaker 1: is one of the big things, and these could hype

553
00:34:57,600 --> 00:35:00,320
Speaker 1: of cases when concrete is poored. People think once you

554
00:35:00,360 --> 00:35:03,680
Speaker 1: pour the concrete can never be jackhammered up, and that's

555
00:35:03,680 --> 00:35:07,200
Speaker 1: completely faust. We've seen it in many cases, you know.

556
00:35:08,080 --> 00:35:10,480
Speaker 1: When you see that they said, I saw the reasoning

557
00:35:10,520 --> 00:35:13,400
Speaker 1: that the owner of the property said that they wanted

558
00:35:13,400 --> 00:35:16,520
Speaker 1: a area for their kids to play, but they also

559
00:35:16,560 --> 00:35:18,239
Speaker 1: wanted a living area that's going to be on a

560
00:35:18,280 --> 00:35:21,040
Speaker 1: porch for family members. That's a red flag right there,

561
00:35:21,040 --> 00:35:23,120
Speaker 1: and what we talked about before that they need to

562
00:35:23,440 --> 00:35:26,640
Speaker 1: contact the police because their one concrete board to live

563
00:35:26,680 --> 00:35:29,600
Speaker 1: on a patio for family that's a red flag right there,

564
00:35:29,680 --> 00:35:34,120
Speaker 1: a huge red flag. But understand this, the dogs did

565
00:35:34,160 --> 00:35:37,680
Speaker 1: not fail. Take a listen to our cut ten. Investigators

566
00:35:37,719 --> 00:35:41,600
Speaker 1: believe Noel is dead now. Canines that detect human remains

567
00:35:41,880 --> 00:35:44,920
Speaker 1: were alerted to some of this dirt, but no remains

568
00:35:44,960 --> 00:35:47,040
Speaker 1: were found. And we've got no reason to doubt these

569
00:35:47,080 --> 00:35:50,080
Speaker 1: dogs and what they do. Six year old Noel Rodriguez

570
00:35:50,080 --> 00:35:53,400
Speaker 1: Alvarez lived in this shed with eight other family members,

571
00:35:53,520 --> 00:35:56,640
Speaker 1: and right here where investigators have been digging is where

572
00:35:56,640 --> 00:36:00,080
Speaker 1: a makeshift shed used to be. Now. Police believed that

573
00:36:00,160 --> 00:36:02,640
Speaker 1: at some point in time, the possible remains of the

574
00:36:02,719 --> 00:36:06,440
Speaker 1: child were in the makeshift shed. I couldn't stand here

575
00:36:06,440 --> 00:36:08,239
Speaker 1: and tell you today if they were Noel's remains or now,

576
00:36:08,280 --> 00:36:12,000
Speaker 1: we don't know. And more from our friends Steve Eager

577
00:36:12,360 --> 00:36:15,399
Speaker 1: at Fox four in our cut eight. After an exhaustive

578
00:36:15,440 --> 00:36:18,920
Speaker 1: search of the property yesterday and into the nighttime hours,

579
00:36:18,960 --> 00:36:21,359
Speaker 1: police did not find the remains of six year old

580
00:36:21,360 --> 00:36:25,759
Speaker 1: Noel Rodriguez Alvarez, but evidence suggested he may have been

581
00:36:25,760 --> 00:36:28,480
Speaker 1: there after he died. They had zeroed in on a

582
00:36:28,560 --> 00:36:32,400
Speaker 1: concrete patio that was suspiciously poured just before his family

583
00:36:32,440 --> 00:36:35,520
Speaker 1: fled the country. They're also focusing on items that were

584
00:36:35,560 --> 00:36:40,080
Speaker 1: removed from the property. Back to David Sedentary, investigative report

585
00:36:40,080 --> 00:36:42,120
Speaker 1: at Fox News on the case from the get go,

586
00:36:42,840 --> 00:36:46,440
Speaker 1: David sidentry, do you know what items were taken? There

587
00:36:46,480 --> 00:36:48,800
Speaker 1: was a lot of documents from the shed that was taken,

588
00:36:49,080 --> 00:36:53,359
Speaker 1: documents and just different personal belongings. I haven't heard of

589
00:36:53,400 --> 00:36:57,239
Speaker 1: one specific quote unquote smoking gun that oh we were

590
00:36:57,280 --> 00:36:59,919
Speaker 1: able to recover this. I know they were obviously taken

591
00:37:00,480 --> 00:37:02,760
Speaker 1: some of that dirt to analyze further. They were taking

592
00:37:02,800 --> 00:37:06,680
Speaker 1: some of those concrete slabs and just different possessions from

593
00:37:06,760 --> 00:37:10,239
Speaker 1: the shed in the back, but they haven't given us

594
00:37:10,280 --> 00:37:14,800
Speaker 1: a specific list of what's been confiscated. David sent injury,

595
00:37:16,000 --> 00:37:19,799
Speaker 1: did you tell us where is mommy and where are

596
00:37:19,840 --> 00:37:23,879
Speaker 1: the other children? Now? Yeah? So there was an Amber

597
00:37:23,920 --> 00:37:28,279
Speaker 1: alert initially issued for Noel last month, and as CPS

598
00:37:28,320 --> 00:37:33,839
Speaker 1: and police began involved, began getting involved, Noel's mother, stepfather,

599
00:37:34,520 --> 00:37:39,160
Speaker 1: and six of his siblings hopped on a flight to Turkey.

600
00:37:39,320 --> 00:37:42,680
Speaker 1: From Turkey, they flew over to India, which is the

601
00:37:42,719 --> 00:37:47,520
Speaker 1: home country of our steep Singh, Noel's stepfather. That's all

602
00:37:47,560 --> 00:37:49,680
Speaker 1: we know at this point in time. Police state they

603
00:37:49,680 --> 00:37:52,400
Speaker 1: are in India, but they do not have a specific location.

604
00:37:52,440 --> 00:37:56,000
Speaker 1: But they do say that Noel's stepfather has most of

605
00:37:56,000 --> 00:37:58,360
Speaker 1: his family over there. They actually said he didn't have

606
00:37:58,400 --> 00:38:00,160
Speaker 1: a whole lot of family here in the States, that

607
00:38:00,239 --> 00:38:03,160
Speaker 1: most of them were still in India. To Sarah Ford,

608
00:38:03,200 --> 00:38:06,279
Speaker 1: legal director of South Carolina Victim Assistance Network, could you,

609
00:38:06,400 --> 00:38:10,919
Speaker 1: in a nutshell explain the legal theory of flight as

610
00:38:10,960 --> 00:38:14,840
Speaker 1: it relates to evidence? Well, Uh, it's pretty simple, and

611
00:38:14,960 --> 00:38:18,480
Speaker 1: that a person who flees that can be evidence of guilt.

612
00:38:18,880 --> 00:38:21,520
Speaker 1: You know, if you have nothing to hide, nothing to

613
00:38:21,520 --> 00:38:25,120
Speaker 1: to you know, avoid Uh, you know, why would someone flee?

614
00:38:25,200 --> 00:38:27,120
Speaker 1: And that's something that you can use that, you know,

615
00:38:27,200 --> 00:38:30,200
Speaker 1: hopefully if they are ever recovered and brought back to

616
00:38:30,160 --> 00:38:33,480
Speaker 1: Texas to the United States. Uh, and they're tribe, Um,

617
00:38:33,880 --> 00:38:36,560
Speaker 1: you know, they can use that to say, you know,

618
00:38:36,760 --> 00:38:40,120
Speaker 1: you fled, you did not assist in in the investigation,

619
00:38:40,640 --> 00:38:43,680
Speaker 1: you and your you know, five children because you fled

620
00:38:43,719 --> 00:38:47,960
Speaker 1: to another country. Um. And it's it's something that that

621
00:38:48,160 --> 00:38:51,640
Speaker 1: I've used personally as a prosecutor. You know. It's when

622
00:38:51,719 --> 00:38:55,920
Speaker 1: someone leads the area does not cooperate. What does that

623
00:38:55,960 --> 00:38:59,400
Speaker 1: say that that that they have a guilty content? A

624
00:38:59,400 --> 00:39:04,080
Speaker 1: good example pole that everyone can relate to Scott Peterson

625
00:39:04,880 --> 00:39:09,200
Speaker 1: who died. Is here blonde got about ten fifteen thousand

626
00:39:09,239 --> 00:39:13,480
Speaker 1: dollars cash, a bucket of viagra and camping equipment and

627
00:39:13,560 --> 00:39:17,920
Speaker 1: took off. That's a good example. So here is mommy

628
00:39:18,000 --> 00:39:21,960
Speaker 1: all the way in India snugged up with her new husband.

629
00:39:22,200 --> 00:39:24,960
Speaker 1: How many husband says she had? How many bio dads,

630
00:39:25,040 --> 00:39:28,600
Speaker 1: Davids Andendry. Police have not said how many fathers, but

631
00:39:28,719 --> 00:39:31,760
Speaker 1: they sev said that there are several fathers in total

632
00:39:31,800 --> 00:39:35,200
Speaker 1: ten children. We don't know how many fathers. Okay, So

633
00:39:35,760 --> 00:39:40,879
Speaker 1: the newest stepfather she snugged up with his family in India,

634
00:39:41,400 --> 00:39:44,600
Speaker 1: So what does that tell you? She's not worried about

635
00:39:44,640 --> 00:39:50,400
Speaker 1: finding Noel. If you know or think you know anything

636
00:39:50,560 --> 00:39:54,279
Speaker 1: about the disappearance of this little boy, please dial eight

637
00:39:54,440 --> 00:39:59,120
Speaker 1: one seven two nine three two nine two three repeat

638
00:39:59,120 --> 00:40:04,160
Speaker 1: eight one seven two nine three two nine two three,

639
00:40:04,560 --> 00:40:08,920
Speaker 1: or you can always call our friends at child Help

640
00:40:09,280 --> 00:40:12,879
Speaker 1: one eight hundred four eight Child one eight hundred four

641
00:40:12,960 --> 00:40:18,439
Speaker 1: two two four four five three. Goodbye friend,