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Shador Sanders, 14 00:00:52,600 --> 00:00:57,560 Speaker 4: not Kenny Pickett, not Joe Flacco, not Dylan Gabriel, not 15 00:00:57,800 --> 00:01:04,200 Speaker 4: recently signed Tyler Hunting of Cleveland and Miami Fame prior 16 00:01:04,240 --> 00:01:10,479 Speaker 4: to this. Chador Sanders will be getting the start Friday 17 00:01:10,560 --> 00:01:16,160 Speaker 4: night against the Carolina Panthers, and Dave Canalis, head coach 18 00:01:16,200 --> 00:01:19,200 Speaker 4: of the Carolina Panthers, has already said he's starting some 19 00:01:19,240 --> 00:01:22,200 Speaker 4: of his guys on Friday, So we are going to 20 00:01:22,240 --> 00:01:26,200 Speaker 4: see Shador Sanders against the starters for the Carolina Panthers 21 00:01:26,240 --> 00:01:30,520 Speaker 4: in live action preseason albeit, but it's the best football 22 00:01:30,560 --> 00:01:31,360 Speaker 4: we got right now. 23 00:01:31,600 --> 00:01:35,920 Speaker 3: This is the best news out of Cleveland potentially all month. Well, 24 00:01:35,959 --> 00:01:37,040 Speaker 3: it depends on who's asking. 25 00:01:37,240 --> 00:01:40,200 Speaker 4: I think it's terrible news for Kenny Pickett and Kilan Gabriel. 26 00:01:40,319 --> 00:01:43,600 Speaker 3: Well, I had tweeted five foot eleven Dylan Gabriel is 27 00:01:43,840 --> 00:01:48,240 Speaker 3: just killing me with the tape that I'm seeing, and 28 00:01:48,560 --> 00:01:51,840 Speaker 3: I just feel like Shadur's done to me outside of 29 00:01:51,880 --> 00:01:57,080 Speaker 3: we know the Cleveland Browns walls, nothing but what you 30 00:01:57,120 --> 00:01:59,760 Speaker 3: would want a leader to Be's answering questions the right way. 31 00:01:59,840 --> 00:02:03,120 Speaker 3: He's showing up early, he's leaving ladies, getting in extra reps. 32 00:02:03,600 --> 00:02:05,360 Speaker 3: And I would toss it back to you, Martin, Is 33 00:02:05,400 --> 00:02:08,160 Speaker 3: this a guy if he didn't go on Day three 34 00:02:08,280 --> 00:02:11,560 Speaker 3: of the draft that we would be expected to be 35 00:02:11,600 --> 00:02:13,519 Speaker 3: in this Friday night slot QB one. 36 00:02:13,880 --> 00:02:15,840 Speaker 4: I mean there's a lot of people even though he 37 00:02:15,880 --> 00:02:17,799 Speaker 4: did go in the fifth round of the draft, I 38 00:02:17,919 --> 00:02:21,520 Speaker 4: expected this. But the reality is for me, at least, 39 00:02:23,120 --> 00:02:28,120 Speaker 4: this is how it works in the NFL. Like Shador Sanders, 40 00:02:28,600 --> 00:02:32,000 Speaker 4: I's not gonna say was always going to get this opportunity, 41 00:02:32,400 --> 00:02:38,800 Speaker 4: because that's not true. But guys every single year win 42 00:02:39,000 --> 00:02:42,960 Speaker 4: and lose jobs because somebody else got hurt. It's just 43 00:02:43,040 --> 00:02:48,920 Speaker 4: the way of this game. In fact, just as Drew bledsoe, 44 00:02:48,440 --> 00:02:51,280 Speaker 4: if he spins out of bounds instead of taking that 45 00:02:51,320 --> 00:02:54,120 Speaker 4: shot from mo Lewis, have we ever heard of Tom Brady? 46 00:02:54,400 --> 00:02:57,000 Speaker 3: Is there a better guy offspring of the man staying 47 00:02:57,040 --> 00:03:01,360 Speaker 3: ready so you don't have to get ready? Then? Honestly, 48 00:03:01,520 --> 00:03:04,760 Speaker 3: I'm rooting for him. It seems like a lot of 49 00:03:04,760 --> 00:03:08,840 Speaker 3: the media is maybe going to castans opposite. I want 50 00:03:08,960 --> 00:03:12,560 Speaker 3: nothing but this man to prove everyone wrong. Because really, 51 00:03:12,600 --> 00:03:15,200 Speaker 3: as he's alluded to Martin, this is what he did 52 00:03:15,840 --> 00:03:19,079 Speaker 3: at multiple phases of his college career. It does seem like, 53 00:03:19,160 --> 00:03:20,720 Speaker 3: oh Red Carpett was laid out for him. If you 54 00:03:20,800 --> 00:03:24,520 Speaker 3: really go into the weeds, he continued to progress. So 55 00:03:24,600 --> 00:03:27,000 Speaker 3: that's why he didn't waiver based off the depth chart 56 00:03:27,000 --> 00:03:28,920 Speaker 3: over the last few weeks. And here he is, and 57 00:03:28,960 --> 00:03:32,079 Speaker 3: I think he's gonna come in calm, cool and collective, 58 00:03:32,160 --> 00:03:35,200 Speaker 3: a lot like his personality. And I think he's gonna 59 00:03:35,200 --> 00:03:35,960 Speaker 3: impress Friday. 60 00:03:35,960 --> 00:03:38,960 Speaker 4: What say you, well, I it depends because if you 61 00:03:39,000 --> 00:03:41,120 Speaker 4: look at the report, so you look at the reports 62 00:03:41,160 --> 00:03:43,520 Speaker 4: that have been coming out some of them said he's 63 00:03:43,520 --> 00:03:45,560 Speaker 4: a little album. Breer said he was kind of like 64 00:03:45,800 --> 00:03:49,280 Speaker 4: behind schedule, seemingly like he was way behind. That's why 65 00:03:49,320 --> 00:03:51,680 Speaker 4: he hadn't gotten reps with the ones. Then mary Kay 66 00:03:51,720 --> 00:03:54,360 Speaker 4: Cabot came out just most recently. She's also the one 67 00:03:54,440 --> 00:03:57,600 Speaker 4: who initially broke the story that Shador Sanders was going 68 00:03:57,640 --> 00:03:59,320 Speaker 4: to be getting this start. Mary Kay has been covering 69 00:03:59,360 --> 00:04:00,560 Speaker 4: the Cleveland brown. 70 00:04:01,080 --> 00:04:03,360 Speaker 3: Since Moby Dick was a guppy. 71 00:04:05,720 --> 00:04:07,280 Speaker 4: Now, but she'd be covering to Clue Browns for a 72 00:04:07,480 --> 00:04:12,400 Speaker 4: very very long time. And she was saying that, you know, 73 00:04:12,640 --> 00:04:16,280 Speaker 4: the stats in training camp are really reflective of how 74 00:04:16,720 --> 00:04:19,560 Speaker 4: he's been playing, and we're not there, We're not there 75 00:04:19,600 --> 00:04:22,760 Speaker 4: to see it. We're well, we're pulling all these clips 76 00:04:22,800 --> 00:04:26,479 Speaker 4: from training camp and using them as referendums, and it's 77 00:04:26,560 --> 00:04:30,000 Speaker 4: ultimately it very much feels like summer league basketball, where 78 00:04:30,000 --> 00:04:32,400 Speaker 4: if you like the guy going in, you'd be like, oh, man, 79 00:04:32,440 --> 00:04:34,720 Speaker 4: did you see such and such at twenty five? He 80 00:04:34,839 --> 00:04:36,960 Speaker 4: did like a guy going in, Oh did you see 81 00:04:36,960 --> 00:04:38,920 Speaker 4: he was eight for twenty Like you know what I mean, 82 00:04:38,960 --> 00:04:40,680 Speaker 4: like why isn't he dominating? 83 00:04:41,200 --> 00:04:44,440 Speaker 3: But I mean, if you're Stefanski, are you doing the 84 00:04:44,480 --> 00:04:49,080 Speaker 3: same exact rollout on Friday. I know everyone's banged up, 85 00:04:49,080 --> 00:04:51,679 Speaker 3: but let's say they weren't. Would would this be Shadur 86 00:04:51,880 --> 00:04:54,400 Speaker 3: coming in? I don't think so, No shot, I don't 87 00:04:54,400 --> 00:04:56,400 Speaker 3: think so one bit. My whole thing, the whole time 88 00:04:56,480 --> 00:04:59,400 Speaker 3: Martin has been this is the number one most accurate 89 00:04:59,600 --> 00:05:04,640 Speaker 3: quarter in FBS coming into the draft, nothing but dogged 90 00:05:04,720 --> 00:05:07,080 Speaker 3: and dragged with his name when all he did was 91 00:05:07,120 --> 00:05:10,160 Speaker 3: go out and ball in Colorado, turned around a Programoh 92 00:05:10,160 --> 00:05:14,039 Speaker 3: by the way, and the other guy we know that 93 00:05:14,120 --> 00:05:17,520 Speaker 3: got drafted, I called him in the prep with Rob 94 00:05:17,560 --> 00:05:20,680 Speaker 3: this the fan wilder at college football. We already know 95 00:05:20,800 --> 00:05:24,320 Speaker 3: what Dylan Gabriel was. He is a gunslinger, but to me, 96 00:05:24,360 --> 00:05:26,840 Speaker 3: he's a little more of a college quarterback than he 97 00:05:26,880 --> 00:05:29,200 Speaker 3: is an NFL quarterback. And what Kenny Pickett's on his 98 00:05:29,240 --> 00:05:31,600 Speaker 3: third club already and Flacco's a cul de sac father 99 00:05:31,680 --> 00:05:34,600 Speaker 3: of three. I think the answer is easy for Friday Night. 100 00:05:34,960 --> 00:05:38,839 Speaker 3: It's just how we got to this conclusion was obviously 101 00:05:38,960 --> 00:05:41,920 Speaker 3: very unique, and so I think that's the one. 102 00:05:42,040 --> 00:05:44,560 Speaker 4: And we'll talk about another thing that I think the 103 00:05:44,680 --> 00:05:49,320 Speaker 4: NFL media is just flatly wrong about. We'll talk about 104 00:05:49,320 --> 00:05:51,000 Speaker 4: that in just about ten more minutes. But right now, 105 00:05:51,080 --> 00:05:52,880 Speaker 4: this is one that I think the media is really 106 00:05:52,920 --> 00:05:55,680 Speaker 4: wrong about in terms of shadure view, because I agree 107 00:05:55,680 --> 00:05:57,520 Speaker 4: with everything you said. I watched him to college. I 108 00:05:57,560 --> 00:05:59,840 Speaker 4: thought he was gonna be the first quarterback taken up 109 00:05:59,839 --> 00:06:02,000 Speaker 4: in until maybe two weeks before the draft and it 110 00:06:02,040 --> 00:06:04,360 Speaker 4: was like, no, cam Ward's going number one for sure. 111 00:06:04,760 --> 00:06:06,159 Speaker 4: And then I was like, all right, well, you know, 112 00:06:06,839 --> 00:06:09,360 Speaker 4: I think he's got a shot to go second round. 113 00:06:09,400 --> 00:06:10,479 Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying. That's where I thought your 114 00:06:10,520 --> 00:06:12,960 Speaker 4: door was going. He got drafted in the fifth row. 115 00:06:14,360 --> 00:06:17,080 Speaker 4: But none of that matters anymore. 116 00:06:16,880 --> 00:06:19,599 Speaker 3: Does it. Your draft position is irrelevant. 117 00:06:19,839 --> 00:06:23,359 Speaker 4: You're on the team, and now you have an opportunity 118 00:06:23,560 --> 00:06:25,599 Speaker 4: to make the team because right now a lot of 119 00:06:25,640 --> 00:06:29,560 Speaker 4: the question is will Shador Sanders make the roster. I 120 00:06:29,600 --> 00:06:32,400 Speaker 4: think some of that is overblown, but it's a valid 121 00:06:32,480 --> 00:06:36,359 Speaker 4: question to be had. Now here's the rub. Would you 122 00:06:36,400 --> 00:06:38,680 Speaker 4: have gotten this opportunity if everybody was healthy? 123 00:06:38,960 --> 00:06:43,640 Speaker 3: No? But they're not, So you do so now what now? 124 00:06:43,680 --> 00:06:45,760 Speaker 3: What are you going to do? You do the only 125 00:06:45,800 --> 00:06:47,679 Speaker 3: thing you know how to do, baby, you ball. 126 00:06:47,680 --> 00:06:51,760 Speaker 4: And if you go out there and you show essentially 127 00:06:52,200 --> 00:06:54,120 Speaker 4: the world what. 128 00:06:54,680 --> 00:06:56,000 Speaker 3: You feel like you can do. 129 00:06:57,400 --> 00:07:03,719 Speaker 4: Then that makes this competition a lot more difficult to 130 00:07:03,839 --> 00:07:08,039 Speaker 4: have a conversations behind closed doors. If Shador goes out 131 00:07:08,080 --> 00:07:11,280 Speaker 4: there and he's checking at the line, he's got his 132 00:07:11,360 --> 00:07:14,960 Speaker 4: offensive line protections right, he's checking into the right place, 133 00:07:15,280 --> 00:07:17,640 Speaker 4: and then it is accurate and on time and making 134 00:07:17,640 --> 00:07:20,560 Speaker 4: the right decisions with the ball and all of that 135 00:07:20,640 --> 00:07:23,480 Speaker 4: right right, and he comes out there, then you see. 136 00:07:23,640 --> 00:07:27,600 Speaker 4: Because here's the other thing about this, we aren't going 137 00:07:27,680 --> 00:07:32,400 Speaker 4: to see more than likely Dylan Gabriel, Kenny Pickett, nor 138 00:07:32,520 --> 00:07:36,120 Speaker 4: Joe Flacco in this preseason game, So there will be 139 00:07:36,160 --> 00:07:37,920 Speaker 4: no highlights of those guys. 140 00:07:38,200 --> 00:07:39,720 Speaker 3: What we will see is Shador. 141 00:07:40,040 --> 00:07:44,920 Speaker 4: If he comes out and impresses, then it'll be well, 142 00:07:45,120 --> 00:07:48,240 Speaker 4: he's better than those guys sight unseen, well of what 143 00:07:48,280 --> 00:07:49,480 Speaker 4: those other guys even look like. 144 00:07:49,520 --> 00:07:51,920 Speaker 3: You know, it's a great point. What's interesting about the 145 00:07:51,920 --> 00:07:54,200 Speaker 3: mechanics of the Browns is they have a great defense, 146 00:07:55,120 --> 00:07:58,679 Speaker 3: and they've had, at least for years, a solid running game. 147 00:07:58,960 --> 00:08:01,680 Speaker 3: This is Shadar coming in and being a game manager 148 00:08:01,840 --> 00:08:04,880 Speaker 3: and peppering in, in my humble opinion, a little bit 149 00:08:04,880 --> 00:08:06,800 Speaker 3: of his improvised skills because he does have him his 150 00:08:06,840 --> 00:08:09,600 Speaker 3: ability to extend plays. He does have the athleticism. Is 151 00:08:09,640 --> 00:08:13,840 Speaker 3: there anything in particular he could do Friday night to 152 00:08:13,960 --> 00:08:15,280 Speaker 3: move up the depth chart? 153 00:08:15,720 --> 00:08:17,800 Speaker 4: I think what he does Friday night to move up 154 00:08:17,800 --> 00:08:21,120 Speaker 4: the depth chart if he does besides the number one 155 00:08:21,160 --> 00:08:26,480 Speaker 4: thing staying healthy, sure, I think the more he shows 156 00:08:26,560 --> 00:08:30,760 Speaker 4: a mastery of the offense. From what I'm reading and 157 00:08:30,840 --> 00:08:34,280 Speaker 4: hearing from Browns camp, it is something it's like the 158 00:08:34,679 --> 00:08:35,840 Speaker 4: pre snap checks. 159 00:08:36,160 --> 00:08:37,960 Speaker 3: It's like making sure that. 160 00:08:37,880 --> 00:08:40,720 Speaker 4: They're in the right look versus this defensive look first, 161 00:08:40,760 --> 00:08:43,680 Speaker 4: that defensive look verse two high, shew verse one high. 162 00:08:44,040 --> 00:08:47,960 Speaker 4: Are you seeing that the pre snap they look one 163 00:08:48,040 --> 00:08:50,200 Speaker 4: high and they rotate actually to cover six or cover 164 00:08:50,280 --> 00:08:53,120 Speaker 4: four or whatever, right like, are you seeing what the 165 00:08:53,120 --> 00:08:56,160 Speaker 4: defense is doing and then as a result, getting the 166 00:08:56,200 --> 00:08:59,520 Speaker 4: offense in the right position. That's what's gonna impress me 167 00:08:59,600 --> 00:09:02,520 Speaker 4: more than and you know if shador like steps out 168 00:09:02,559 --> 00:09:06,280 Speaker 4: of three sacks and throws a touchdown, yeah, because that's 169 00:09:06,320 --> 00:09:09,640 Speaker 4: not consistent and that's not probably gonna be happening when you're. 170 00:09:09,600 --> 00:09:12,160 Speaker 3: When when Miles Garrett won't be chasing him, but when 171 00:09:12,440 --> 00:09:17,200 Speaker 3: you know TJ. Watt is chasing him around the edge. 172 00:09:17,720 --> 00:09:20,040 Speaker 3: It's interesting because he does come under center with a 173 00:09:20,080 --> 00:09:23,640 Speaker 3: team that's had virtually no leadership for how many years 174 00:09:23,640 --> 00:09:26,600 Speaker 3: and how many times have they fumbled the quarterback position? 175 00:09:27,280 --> 00:09:31,040 Speaker 3: So to me, I think schadur yes, can he do 176 00:09:31,160 --> 00:09:35,360 Speaker 3: the quarterback in tangibles to impress Shore? I'd actually like 177 00:09:35,440 --> 00:09:37,640 Speaker 3: him to see. I'd like to see a little bit 178 00:09:37,679 --> 00:09:41,120 Speaker 3: of leadership that's maybe not in the game plan. That's 179 00:09:41,120 --> 00:09:45,400 Speaker 3: something that I feel is what he does naturally. I 180 00:09:45,559 --> 00:09:48,079 Speaker 3: genuinely believe what say you that he is a natural 181 00:09:48,120 --> 00:09:51,840 Speaker 3: born leader. And that's why I love the fit in Cleveland. 182 00:09:52,120 --> 00:09:55,120 Speaker 3: Dylan Gabriel as a leader of men doesn't jump off 183 00:09:55,120 --> 00:09:58,280 Speaker 3: the board. Pickett is a certified backup in this league 184 00:09:58,360 --> 00:10:01,040 Speaker 3: or he wouldn't have been already moved around. And Flacco's 185 00:10:01,080 --> 00:10:02,319 Speaker 3: on whole eighteen. 186 00:10:03,080 --> 00:10:07,040 Speaker 4: The only guy, in my opinion, who has the capability 187 00:10:07,120 --> 00:10:10,720 Speaker 4: to be the franchise quarterback for Cleveland for any extended 188 00:10:10,760 --> 00:10:11,440 Speaker 4: period of time. 189 00:10:11,480 --> 00:10:12,480 Speaker 3: It should do it. I love it. 190 00:10:12,520 --> 00:10:15,360 Speaker 4: I'm in lockstep with Now do I think it'll happen, 191 00:10:15,640 --> 00:10:18,880 Speaker 4: that's a different question. But of the guys listed on this, 192 00:10:19,480 --> 00:10:21,480 Speaker 4: do you know we've ran through them a few times now, 193 00:10:21,559 --> 00:10:24,520 Speaker 4: chaud Door is the only one that has a shot. 194 00:10:24,679 --> 00:10:27,120 Speaker 3: I'd say is maybe a twenty percent shot. 195 00:10:27,360 --> 00:10:32,960 Speaker 4: But I'll say this, this is his first best shot 196 00:10:33,400 --> 00:10:37,240 Speaker 4: to put out the best possible impression. This is his 197 00:10:37,280 --> 00:10:41,280 Speaker 4: first best shot. Okay, look, yeah, you're in you are 198 00:10:41,320 --> 00:10:43,040 Speaker 4: in a a What. 199 00:10:43,320 --> 00:10:46,160 Speaker 3: The ring around? What is that game? Oh? My goodness around? 200 00:10:46,480 --> 00:10:49,960 Speaker 4: No musical chairs, the game of musical chairs. There's three 201 00:10:50,040 --> 00:10:53,720 Speaker 4: chairs and there's four quarterbacks. Right, that's that's the game 202 00:10:53,760 --> 00:10:57,920 Speaker 4: in Cleveland. Right, we're asking if Shador Sanders gonna get cut. 203 00:10:58,280 --> 00:11:00,480 Speaker 4: You know what would solve a lot of problems. If 204 00:11:00,520 --> 00:11:03,520 Speaker 4: Shador Sanders goes out there and plays really well and 205 00:11:03,559 --> 00:11:06,640 Speaker 4: then you know, because you know what, we saw sixty 206 00:11:06,640 --> 00:11:08,800 Speaker 4: semi quarterback start games last year. 207 00:11:09,240 --> 00:11:09,520 Speaker 3: That's it. 208 00:11:10,280 --> 00:11:13,520 Speaker 4: Matthew Stafford is week to week with the back injury. 209 00:11:13,920 --> 00:11:16,080 Speaker 4: Rams got two first round picks next year. I don't 210 00:11:16,120 --> 00:11:18,400 Speaker 4: think they trade a first round pick for Shador Standers, 211 00:11:18,480 --> 00:11:20,880 Speaker 4: but maybe there's some level, like Shador goes out there 212 00:11:20,920 --> 00:11:24,599 Speaker 4: plays well in week one of the preseason. Hey, Cleveland, 213 00:11:24,679 --> 00:11:27,040 Speaker 4: I can solve your quarterback problem for you. I'll take 214 00:11:27,080 --> 00:11:29,240 Speaker 4: a fourth row. I'll trade you Shador Sanders for a 215 00:11:29,280 --> 00:11:29,960 Speaker 4: fourth rounder. 216 00:11:30,360 --> 00:11:32,960 Speaker 3: Well, let me ask you, because if you're a Cleveland 217 00:11:33,040 --> 00:11:36,359 Speaker 3: Browns fan, let's just sit in that world for a second. 218 00:11:36,559 --> 00:11:41,880 Speaker 3: You lut everyone down with the Watson signing without hesitation, 219 00:11:42,520 --> 00:11:45,800 Speaker 3: and you really haven't solved the quarterback puzzle post Mayfield, 220 00:11:45,800 --> 00:11:48,120 Speaker 3: if for calling what it is, I already laid out 221 00:11:48,160 --> 00:11:50,680 Speaker 3: what the other three are. We don't know what schadur isaid. 222 00:11:50,679 --> 00:11:55,080 Speaker 3: Wouldn't you think it'd be adventatious management owners, even Stefanski 223 00:11:55,120 --> 00:11:59,040 Speaker 3: in locks up to give the fans this look. I 224 00:11:59,160 --> 00:12:01,760 Speaker 3: just think they owe it to the Cleveland fans to 225 00:12:01,840 --> 00:12:05,040 Speaker 3: give a potential, real look at what could be a 226 00:12:05,120 --> 00:12:06,280 Speaker 3: franchise quarterback. 227 00:12:06,520 --> 00:12:10,040 Speaker 4: Well, whether it's owed or not, is what they're going 228 00:12:10,120 --> 00:12:14,240 Speaker 4: to get. So so what they're going to get on Friday. 229 00:12:14,440 --> 00:12:17,319 Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in 230 00:12:17,360 --> 00:12:20,720 Speaker 2: the nation. Catch all of our shows at Foxsports Radio 231 00:12:20,880 --> 00:12:24,960 Speaker 2: dot com and within the iHeartRadio app. Search FSR to 232 00:12:25,080 --> 00:12:25,720 Speaker 2: listen live. 233 00:12:27,040 --> 00:12:30,400 Speaker 5: Hey, this is Jason McIntyre. 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Everybody's undefeated, everybody's winning 246 00:13:10,720 --> 00:13:13,560 Speaker 4: the Super Bowl except for the Tennessee Titans. I don't 247 00:13:13,559 --> 00:13:15,800 Speaker 4: know if you saw that last week where they're head 248 00:13:15,800 --> 00:13:18,080 Speaker 4: coach and GM was asked by a reporter, do you 249 00:13:18,120 --> 00:13:19,760 Speaker 4: think the team that you're putting out there go win 250 00:13:19,840 --> 00:13:20,439 Speaker 4: the Super Bowl? 251 00:13:20,760 --> 00:13:24,200 Speaker 3: And they were like, why are you asking me? Like 252 00:13:24,640 --> 00:13:25,840 Speaker 3: we just had the number one. 253 00:13:25,720 --> 00:13:28,640 Speaker 4: Overall pick, Like it's like our goal is to get 254 00:13:28,679 --> 00:13:31,640 Speaker 4: better every day, buddy, Like all right, all right, And 255 00:13:31,679 --> 00:13:35,040 Speaker 4: so to that point of getting better every day, but 256 00:13:35,160 --> 00:13:42,080 Speaker 4: also to the point of singing high, high praises. Sean 257 00:13:42,120 --> 00:13:46,880 Speaker 4: Payton is not necessarily one to keep his mouth shut 258 00:13:46,920 --> 00:13:49,520 Speaker 4: when he's got a strong opinion. I would say like that, 259 00:13:49,840 --> 00:13:54,079 Speaker 4: and right now my man is singing like a Della 260 00:13:54,160 --> 00:13:58,080 Speaker 4: to Vegas residency about his team and about how much 261 00:13:58,080 --> 00:14:01,439 Speaker 4: he loves just about how much he loves his team 262 00:14:01,520 --> 00:14:04,679 Speaker 4: saying earlier this year, I'm saying he thought he had 263 00:14:04,760 --> 00:14:06,680 Speaker 4: seven teams in his career that he thought at a 264 00:14:06,720 --> 00:14:09,200 Speaker 4: real shot to win the Super Bowl, and he thinks 265 00:14:09,200 --> 00:14:11,319 Speaker 4: that this is one of them. Right, he thinks that 266 00:14:11,440 --> 00:14:13,800 Speaker 4: both said Bonnicks could be a top five quarterback in 267 00:14:13,840 --> 00:14:14,319 Speaker 4: this league. 268 00:14:14,360 --> 00:14:16,160 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, he's like he is? 269 00:14:16,920 --> 00:14:20,600 Speaker 4: Was that a sponsored segment the praises of the Denver 270 00:14:20,640 --> 00:14:23,880 Speaker 4: Broncos in a way that some of the most fervent 271 00:14:23,960 --> 00:14:26,640 Speaker 4: defenders of Bonnicks on Twitter have never done. 272 00:14:27,040 --> 00:14:30,360 Speaker 3: I am in shambles. Let's start with this is a 273 00:14:30,400 --> 00:14:34,320 Speaker 3: man who was very good on television. What does that 274 00:14:34,440 --> 00:14:37,080 Speaker 3: tell you? If he's a head coach and he's good 275 00:14:37,120 --> 00:14:41,440 Speaker 3: on television, he's probably an above average salesman. I degree, 276 00:14:41,840 --> 00:14:45,240 Speaker 3: I'm staring at a fifty six QBR, and I have 277 00:14:45,320 --> 00:14:49,640 Speaker 3: my contacts in a fifty six QBR more in in 278 00:14:49,760 --> 00:14:53,680 Speaker 3: a top three defense from last year? What about Bonnicks? 279 00:14:53,760 --> 00:14:55,440 Speaker 3: Has you ready to run through a wall? 280 00:14:55,600 --> 00:14:55,760 Speaker 1: Oh? 281 00:14:56,200 --> 00:14:57,960 Speaker 3: Oh? By the way, it was the Van Wilder a 282 00:14:58,000 --> 00:15:01,840 Speaker 3: Callee throwback from the millennials there, meaning he was in college. 283 00:15:01,920 --> 00:15:07,360 Speaker 3: He's twenty five. He's good run car hey. 284 00:15:07,640 --> 00:15:10,440 Speaker 4: I also did five years in college, Bownicks did more 285 00:15:10,480 --> 00:15:12,440 Speaker 4: than that. But I say he's one of the few 286 00:15:12,440 --> 00:15:16,200 Speaker 4: people's in college longer than me. But what you asked me, 287 00:15:16,320 --> 00:15:20,360 Speaker 4: what is it about bow Knicks that has me feeling 288 00:15:21,200 --> 00:15:23,040 Speaker 4: bullish on the Broncos. 289 00:15:23,080 --> 00:15:26,360 Speaker 3: Please convince me. I'm an AFC west born and razor. 290 00:15:26,400 --> 00:15:28,320 Speaker 3: I already lost a football team in the division. You 291 00:15:28,320 --> 00:15:29,280 Speaker 3: can't hurt me anymore. 292 00:15:30,120 --> 00:15:35,320 Speaker 4: Honestly, what has me feeling this way is the way 293 00:15:35,360 --> 00:15:39,360 Speaker 4: that the head coach talks about the quarterback from day one, 294 00:15:39,560 --> 00:15:42,200 Speaker 4: from day one, and I said. 295 00:15:42,160 --> 00:15:44,800 Speaker 3: On these very airwaves, stand again in this very tear, 296 00:15:45,200 --> 00:15:46,200 Speaker 3: maybe this very. 297 00:15:46,120 --> 00:15:52,320 Speaker 4: Microphone potentially probably didn't upgrade. I said after the draft, 298 00:15:52,920 --> 00:15:56,080 Speaker 4: Sean Payton just took the sixth quarterback off the board 299 00:15:56,120 --> 00:16:03,280 Speaker 4: with the fifteenth pick. Either he's a madman or this 300 00:16:03,480 --> 00:16:07,480 Speaker 4: is really bad man. Like either he's got a whole plan, 301 00:16:08,160 --> 00:16:11,760 Speaker 4: he knows what he's doing, because here's just like six 302 00:16:11,880 --> 00:16:14,880 Speaker 4: quarterbacks in the first round. I raised my eyebrow in 303 00:16:14,920 --> 00:16:19,440 Speaker 4: general because I'm having trouble believing that you're gonna find 304 00:16:20,480 --> 00:16:25,800 Speaker 4: a sixth quarterback better than the seventeenth best or twenty 305 00:16:25,800 --> 00:16:30,040 Speaker 4: first best whatever and twenty fifth best player that you 306 00:16:30,120 --> 00:16:32,320 Speaker 4: drafted in the first round. I think there's probably better 307 00:16:32,360 --> 00:16:35,360 Speaker 4: players than the sixth best quarterback. Right, you're probably reaching 308 00:16:35,640 --> 00:16:39,120 Speaker 4: the I don't know. Tyler Schuck was the third quarterback 309 00:16:39,160 --> 00:16:42,920 Speaker 4: taking this year, and the next positive report out of 310 00:16:42,920 --> 00:16:44,840 Speaker 4: training camp for him will be the first. 311 00:16:45,440 --> 00:16:47,920 Speaker 3: Right, he looks like he's throwing with the wrong arm. 312 00:16:47,960 --> 00:16:50,960 Speaker 4: So, like generally, if you're not at the top, I'm 313 00:16:51,000 --> 00:16:54,640 Speaker 4: expecting there to be a you know, a distilled down 314 00:16:54,840 --> 00:16:57,840 Speaker 4: of the talent. And when you're seeing I'm saying five 315 00:16:58,120 --> 00:16:59,400 Speaker 4: first round quarterbacks before. 316 00:16:59,400 --> 00:17:01,360 Speaker 3: Okay, well, let me ask you this. Because you are 317 00:17:01,560 --> 00:17:04,560 Speaker 3: a New Orleans Saints born and raised diehard, you have 318 00:17:04,760 --> 00:17:10,320 Speaker 3: seen this movie before? What shades of Sean and Drew 319 00:17:11,000 --> 00:17:15,320 Speaker 3: gives you the same confidence and conviction that Sean's doing 320 00:17:15,359 --> 00:17:19,159 Speaker 3: the same thing with Baul that I'm not aware of. 321 00:17:19,200 --> 00:17:22,560 Speaker 4: It's not necessarily the shades of Sean and Drew. It 322 00:17:22,640 --> 00:17:26,280 Speaker 4: is not that, okay. What it is is something that 323 00:17:26,400 --> 00:17:30,360 Speaker 4: I first heard from Eric Dickerson and then it got 324 00:17:30,359 --> 00:17:33,560 Speaker 4: reported out more freak more relatives. Eric Dickerson told me 325 00:17:34,080 --> 00:17:38,160 Speaker 4: that Sam Mills told him, former New Orleans Says linebacker 326 00:17:38,960 --> 00:17:43,800 Speaker 4: that Sean Payton was going to take Patrick Mahomes with 327 00:17:43,880 --> 00:17:47,359 Speaker 4: the twelfth pick in the draft, and Andy Reiding the 328 00:17:47,359 --> 00:17:51,320 Speaker 4: Buffalo Bill traded up with the Buffalo Bills to get him, 329 00:17:51,760 --> 00:17:55,600 Speaker 4: Saint Angels drafting Marshawn Lattimore, who was a really, really 330 00:17:55,680 --> 00:17:58,240 Speaker 4: good player for a really long time. I agree, right, 331 00:17:58,400 --> 00:18:01,840 Speaker 4: probably a Saints ring of on the type of guy. Yeah, right, 332 00:18:01,920 --> 00:18:07,920 Speaker 4: and Mark Evans's worst nightmare. But we were this close 333 00:18:08,680 --> 00:18:13,000 Speaker 4: to Patrick Mahomes and Sean Payton, and so I heard 334 00:18:13,040 --> 00:18:15,760 Speaker 4: that and was just as a Saints fan, just just 335 00:18:16,480 --> 00:18:25,280 Speaker 4: crushed devastate. Today today I heard Seth Wickersham on Colin 336 00:18:25,359 --> 00:18:30,520 Speaker 4: cow heard show say something that made the hair on 337 00:18:30,600 --> 00:18:32,240 Speaker 4: the back of my next stand up. 338 00:18:32,760 --> 00:18:33,480 Speaker 3: Here. It is. 339 00:18:37,240 --> 00:18:41,280 Speaker 6: When Sean Payton was first looking to replace Drew Brees 340 00:18:41,320 --> 00:18:44,440 Speaker 6: in twenty seventeen, he came up with this formula again 341 00:18:44,480 --> 00:18:47,959 Speaker 6: to try to understand processing, and Patrick had a great 342 00:18:48,040 --> 00:18:50,399 Speaker 6: score on it and he was gonna pick Patrick. Obviously, 343 00:18:50,480 --> 00:18:53,399 Speaker 6: the Chiefs traded up with Buffalo took him away, but 344 00:18:53,480 --> 00:18:56,960 Speaker 6: he kept the same analytics formula and when he used 345 00:18:57,000 --> 00:19:00,000 Speaker 6: it this time around, bo Nix's score was the very 346 00:19:00,359 --> 00:19:03,320 Speaker 6: Since Patrick Mahomes is the formula that he developed. He 347 00:19:03,400 --> 00:19:04,880 Speaker 6: had a lot of confidence in it, and I think 348 00:19:04,920 --> 00:19:07,440 Speaker 6: a lot of that had to do with Patrick Mahomes. 349 00:19:11,080 --> 00:19:15,040 Speaker 3: I'm not saying now Old bow Knicks is Patrick Mahomes. 350 00:19:15,960 --> 00:19:20,680 Speaker 4: All I'm saying is this, Sean Peyton believes in that man. 351 00:19:22,160 --> 00:19:24,080 Speaker 4: And the way that the reports are coming out of 352 00:19:24,080 --> 00:19:27,440 Speaker 4: Broncoast camp, it's a lot of positivity and a lot 353 00:19:27,440 --> 00:19:29,359 Speaker 4: of positivity from a lot of different angles. 354 00:19:29,440 --> 00:19:29,520 Speaker 3: Right. 355 00:19:29,520 --> 00:19:31,040 Speaker 4: It's a lot of people talking big about how good 356 00:19:31,080 --> 00:19:33,680 Speaker 4: the Broncos have been. I love Nick Mondo. They got 357 00:19:33,680 --> 00:19:35,880 Speaker 4: the best corner in the game on the backside. I 358 00:19:36,080 --> 00:19:38,120 Speaker 4: like that a lot. You get green Law, you ad 359 00:19:38,200 --> 00:19:40,800 Speaker 4: Hu Funga. I'm not expecting bow Knicks to come out 360 00:19:40,840 --> 00:19:44,280 Speaker 4: here and turn into Patrick Mahomes. What I'm saying is this, 361 00:19:44,560 --> 00:19:47,399 Speaker 4: I have seen Sean Payton fall in love before he 362 00:19:47,480 --> 00:19:49,640 Speaker 4: fell in love with Drew Brees. He fell in love 363 00:19:49,680 --> 00:19:52,560 Speaker 4: with Taysom Hill. I've seen bow Knicks play quarterback. He 364 00:19:52,680 --> 00:19:56,280 Speaker 4: already better than Taysom Hill. Sean sometimes has a wandering 365 00:19:56,320 --> 00:19:58,080 Speaker 4: eye in terms of he may fall in love with 366 00:19:58,119 --> 00:20:02,040 Speaker 4: the wrong one. The reports we are like bo Nicks 367 00:20:02,400 --> 00:20:05,040 Speaker 4: for all of his warts. I know he could run 368 00:20:05,119 --> 00:20:07,960 Speaker 4: a car. I know that, you know, said he could 369 00:20:08,040 --> 00:20:10,160 Speaker 4: run for president probably not just kidding, but in terms 370 00:20:10,200 --> 00:20:12,959 Speaker 4: of the age he's older, I don't need I'm not 371 00:20:12,960 --> 00:20:15,920 Speaker 4: worried about when the long term ratification. I'm talking about 372 00:20:15,960 --> 00:20:19,639 Speaker 4: the next seventeen games. I like this Broncos team, and 373 00:20:19,680 --> 00:20:21,639 Speaker 4: I like bow Knicks, and I like Sean Payton. 374 00:20:22,880 --> 00:20:25,000 Speaker 3: I like the way that he likes his team. How 375 00:20:25,080 --> 00:20:28,359 Speaker 3: much of them being in maybe the best well coached 376 00:20:28,359 --> 00:20:34,040 Speaker 3: division with a case for the best four quarterbacks, I 377 00:20:34,320 --> 00:20:36,600 Speaker 3: think they can make a case in the entire division, 378 00:20:37,080 --> 00:20:40,840 Speaker 3: would cause maybe not just a oh they're just gonna 379 00:20:41,040 --> 00:20:44,000 Speaker 3: inc another wild card. I think in that particular division, 380 00:20:44,000 --> 00:20:46,280 Speaker 3: you got to go out and get it again again 381 00:20:46,520 --> 00:20:49,200 Speaker 3: and again. And the AFC I feel got a lot 382 00:20:49,240 --> 00:20:51,600 Speaker 3: better and healthy. I would say this. 383 00:20:52,280 --> 00:20:55,000 Speaker 4: It had me at work today trying to figure out, 384 00:20:55,880 --> 00:20:58,800 Speaker 4: can four teams from one division make the playoffs? 385 00:20:58,800 --> 00:21:03,280 Speaker 3: Oh? Please? Can it possibly happen? At four teams from 386 00:21:03,320 --> 00:21:04,639 Speaker 3: one division make the playoffs? 387 00:21:04,960 --> 00:21:08,159 Speaker 4: Because I do think that we're I think as we 388 00:21:08,200 --> 00:21:11,000 Speaker 4: sit August fifth, we're looking at a three big league 389 00:21:11,000 --> 00:21:11,879 Speaker 4: in the AFC West. 390 00:21:11,960 --> 00:21:14,960 Speaker 3: Well, as we sit on August fifth, our guy bo 391 00:21:15,160 --> 00:21:21,520 Speaker 3: here no double digit and interceptions Martin eighteenth in QBR 392 00:21:21,680 --> 00:21:24,040 Speaker 3: and not top ten in yards. And again you gotta 393 00:21:24,080 --> 00:21:28,080 Speaker 3: give him a ton a ton of leeway because he's 394 00:21:28,080 --> 00:21:32,200 Speaker 3: a rookie, albeit twenty five year old rookie, but fifth 395 00:21:32,200 --> 00:21:35,400 Speaker 3: best quarterback in the NFL. We did the top ten, 396 00:21:35,600 --> 00:21:37,760 Speaker 3: didn't the Herbert or listen, listen, listen. 397 00:21:39,400 --> 00:21:44,160 Speaker 4: When your girlfriend asks you, honey, how do I look 398 00:21:44,200 --> 00:21:48,280 Speaker 4: in this dress? You tell her you're the most beautiful 399 00:21:48,280 --> 00:21:49,199 Speaker 4: woman in the world. 400 00:21:50,200 --> 00:21:52,720 Speaker 3: We all know the truth, but you mean it, though, 401 00:21:53,280 --> 00:21:54,840 Speaker 3: Do you know what I mean? Always mean it? You 402 00:21:55,000 --> 00:21:57,040 Speaker 3: know the truth, but you mean it though, right? 403 00:21:57,200 --> 00:22:00,760 Speaker 4: You mean you're not necessarily saying that if I was 404 00:22:00,800 --> 00:22:06,280 Speaker 4: stacking up one verse one hundred supermodels from the Miss 405 00:22:06,320 --> 00:22:09,680 Speaker 4: Universe pageant and you in this dress, that you will win. 406 00:22:10,280 --> 00:22:13,520 Speaker 3: But for me, you're my Miss Universe. So you're saying 407 00:22:13,560 --> 00:22:17,480 Speaker 3: Sean Payton is just this is this is back to 408 00:22:17,520 --> 00:22:23,240 Speaker 3: my salesman angle. Is he being sincere or Seth Wickersham 409 00:22:23,359 --> 00:22:24,600 Speaker 3: said it? He said. 410 00:22:24,920 --> 00:22:28,440 Speaker 4: Seth Wickersham said that the formula that Seaan Payton had 411 00:22:28,480 --> 00:22:31,119 Speaker 4: that told him that Patrick Mahomes was going to be 412 00:22:31,200 --> 00:22:33,560 Speaker 4: the guy. I'm telling you remember that draft from think 413 00:22:33,600 --> 00:22:37,000 Speaker 4: about it. Don't think now. Obviously it's easy to remember 414 00:22:37,040 --> 00:22:40,239 Speaker 4: now because Patrick Mahomes is like, oh, you know who, hum, 415 00:22:40,359 --> 00:22:42,200 Speaker 4: I went through super Bowls, go to five whatever. 416 00:22:42,480 --> 00:22:44,720 Speaker 3: No, I know it's easy to think about now, go 417 00:22:44,800 --> 00:22:45,760 Speaker 3: back to that draft. 418 00:22:46,000 --> 00:22:50,199 Speaker 4: It was far from a consensus that Patrick Mahomes was 419 00:22:50,600 --> 00:22:53,720 Speaker 4: a number one level pick, a number one overall pick. 420 00:22:53,880 --> 00:22:56,200 Speaker 3: In fact, he wasn't. He was the eleventh overall pick. 421 00:22:56,200 --> 00:22:57,320 Speaker 3: And that just goes to show you. 422 00:22:57,640 --> 00:23:01,000 Speaker 4: And Mahomes didn't even come out of his first fifteen 423 00:23:01,080 --> 00:23:03,240 Speaker 4: or so games, got to I believe his first start 424 00:23:03,320 --> 00:23:06,360 Speaker 4: was against these same Denver Broncos in a meetingless week 425 00:23:06,480 --> 00:23:10,560 Speaker 4: sixteen game. Until he played sixteen games at the time, I'm. 426 00:23:10,400 --> 00:23:13,199 Speaker 3: Gonna just go out on the way. Let's said it, Monico. 427 00:23:13,359 --> 00:23:17,359 Speaker 3: But Martin the guy didn't even get wrapped his arms 428 00:23:17,400 --> 00:23:21,200 Speaker 3: around by the same collegiate program. He got bounced. He 429 00:23:21,240 --> 00:23:23,920 Speaker 3: had to go find another home and find another home. 430 00:23:24,440 --> 00:23:27,080 Speaker 3: I need to see it again. I'm not saying he 431 00:23:27,160 --> 00:23:31,160 Speaker 3: can't win a ten and seven Denver Broncos program inc 432 00:23:31,200 --> 00:23:33,520 Speaker 3: a seven seed and get back in the dance, go 433 00:23:33,560 --> 00:23:37,960 Speaker 3: to Buffalo, get bounced in the first round. Look, he's 434 00:23:38,080 --> 00:23:41,320 Speaker 3: nowhere near a top five quarterback in the NFL. The 435 00:23:41,440 --> 00:23:44,200 Speaker 3: nice thing is it's a top three. It's a top 436 00:23:44,240 --> 00:23:46,399 Speaker 3: three Denver two from last year that added pieces, So 437 00:23:46,880 --> 00:23:48,000 Speaker 3: God has to be factored. 438 00:23:48,119 --> 00:23:52,520 Speaker 4: Counterpoint Din, a top five quarterback in the NFL just 439 00:23:52,520 --> 00:23:56,640 Speaker 4: won the Super Bowl this year, survey. 440 00:23:56,320 --> 00:24:01,480 Speaker 3: Says, can we call Cam Newton real quick? But I'm 441 00:24:01,520 --> 00:24:05,679 Speaker 3: just out do you see saying? I look, I like 442 00:24:06,040 --> 00:24:09,480 Speaker 3: where you're going with it. I see where you're going 443 00:24:09,520 --> 00:24:11,679 Speaker 3: with I'm just did a top five quarterback win the 444 00:24:11,680 --> 00:24:12,520 Speaker 3: Super Bowl this year? 445 00:24:14,760 --> 00:24:14,840 Speaker 7: No? 446 00:24:15,040 --> 00:24:20,080 Speaker 3: Hello, No they did, No, they didn't. But that's that's 447 00:24:20,119 --> 00:24:23,199 Speaker 3: one of the most stacked rosters I've ever seen in 448 00:24:23,240 --> 00:24:24,280 Speaker 3: our millennial lives. 449 00:24:24,280 --> 00:24:27,080 Speaker 4: So Broncos got two defensive Player of the Year candidate's 450 00:24:27,080 --> 00:24:28,280 Speaker 4: on the roster right now. 451 00:24:28,600 --> 00:24:30,760 Speaker 3: Nick Benito was like third in the league in sacks. 452 00:24:30,920 --> 00:24:34,600 Speaker 3: Ansertain won the damn thing. Suddon and Morvin Mims are 453 00:24:34,640 --> 00:24:38,040 Speaker 3: not aj Brown, Davonte Smith and I'm sorry running back 454 00:24:38,080 --> 00:24:40,760 Speaker 3: who sat Quan? Who are they on the cover in Denver? 455 00:24:40,920 --> 00:24:42,000 Speaker 3: I can't interest you in a little. 456 00:24:42,040 --> 00:24:46,640 Speaker 4: Devon Vley, twenty seven year old rookie wide receiver, I am. 457 00:24:46,960 --> 00:24:49,600 Speaker 3: I am struggling on the depth chart to fight. Look, 458 00:24:49,600 --> 00:24:51,800 Speaker 3: I do like the Evan Ingram pickup I do a lot. 459 00:24:51,920 --> 00:24:57,200 Speaker 3: I just think it's not a stacked roster like Philly, 460 00:24:57,520 --> 00:25:00,920 Speaker 3: and so this team to be in the Super Bowl. Conversation, 461 00:25:01,720 --> 00:25:06,359 Speaker 3: they may finish third in the division. They may finish third. 462 00:25:06,640 --> 00:25:09,520 Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in 463 00:25:09,560 --> 00:25:12,920 Speaker 2: the nation. Catch all of our shows at Foxsports Radio 464 00:25:13,080 --> 00:25:17,159 Speaker 2: dot com and within the iHeartRadio app search FSR to 465 00:25:17,280 --> 00:25:17,960 Speaker 2: listen live. 466 00:25:18,400 --> 00:25:22,520 Speaker 4: I knew that you were super excited as well as 467 00:25:22,640 --> 00:25:25,520 Speaker 4: a lot of Southern California was when Luka Doncics was 468 00:25:25,560 --> 00:25:30,600 Speaker 4: announced and as the newest star centerpiece for the Los 469 00:25:30,640 --> 00:25:33,040 Speaker 4: Angeles like as three years, one hundred and sixty five 470 00:25:33,200 --> 00:25:36,919 Speaker 4: million dollars, which I did not realize this at the 471 00:25:36,960 --> 00:25:39,879 Speaker 4: time when we were discussing this on Saturday. Yeah, lines 472 00:25:40,000 --> 00:25:42,880 Speaker 4: him up in the next from two years from now 473 00:25:43,440 --> 00:25:46,520 Speaker 4: to become the first million ish a game player in 474 00:25:46,560 --> 00:25:47,040 Speaker 4: the NBA. 475 00:25:47,480 --> 00:25:50,760 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, we'll be signing for just eighty million dollars. 476 00:25:51,320 --> 00:25:55,720 Speaker 4: Buddy, They only play eighty two so Luca spoiler alert, 477 00:25:55,880 --> 00:25:57,919 Speaker 4: Luca will not play eighty two games that year, so 478 00:25:57,960 --> 00:26:01,200 Speaker 4: he will make over a million dollars per game played. 479 00:26:01,720 --> 00:26:06,080 Speaker 4: But it was all smiles and el segundo at Lynn 480 00:26:06,160 --> 00:26:11,480 Speaker 4: Lakerland for everyone who was there. Luca don just did 481 00:26:11,560 --> 00:26:18,080 Speaker 4: address the crowd of media, reporters and several of his teammates. 482 00:26:18,680 --> 00:26:20,640 Speaker 4: This is what young Luca had to say. 483 00:26:20,720 --> 00:26:25,280 Speaker 8: Luca, good to see. Congratulations. You mentioned in kind of 484 00:26:25,280 --> 00:26:27,880 Speaker 8: the post you put out on social media championships being 485 00:26:27,920 --> 00:26:30,879 Speaker 8: important to you. Here, you guys lost in the first round. 486 00:26:31,560 --> 00:26:34,560 Speaker 8: You look like a different person since then. What do 487 00:26:34,600 --> 00:26:36,840 Speaker 8: you feel like you're going to bring to that championship 488 00:26:36,840 --> 00:26:38,600 Speaker 8: pursuit next year? And how do you feel like the 489 00:26:38,680 --> 00:26:43,320 Speaker 8: team is constructed to try to achieve that goal. Yeah, honestly, 490 00:26:43,320 --> 00:26:44,400 Speaker 8: I think we have a great team. 491 00:26:44,680 --> 00:26:46,880 Speaker 3: We have what we need to compete for the championship. 492 00:26:50,160 --> 00:26:53,960 Speaker 4: So that was a little bit of a Luca, a 493 00:26:53,960 --> 00:26:56,680 Speaker 4: lot of bit of Dave McManaman. But we got the point, 494 00:26:58,160 --> 00:27:02,520 Speaker 4: Lucas says, we got all we need right here. Now 495 00:27:02,520 --> 00:27:05,840 Speaker 4: here's my question to you, Monico hit me, and my 496 00:27:05,960 --> 00:27:09,159 Speaker 4: question to America at large, because when I saw Rachel 497 00:27:09,240 --> 00:27:14,119 Speaker 4: Nichols tweet this picture out, She's tweeted and said the 498 00:27:14,240 --> 00:27:18,640 Speaker 4: Lakers and Luca right now, she was straight down the middle. 499 00:27:18,680 --> 00:27:19,959 Speaker 4: She's not trying to start no stuff. 500 00:27:20,200 --> 00:27:23,880 Speaker 3: Don't worry, I will I retweet, I said, I see 501 00:27:23,960 --> 00:27:27,960 Speaker 3: somebody missing Starling Pop Marsh So. 502 00:27:27,920 --> 00:27:29,520 Speaker 4: Lucas says, we got all we need to win a 503 00:27:29,600 --> 00:27:37,320 Speaker 4: championship right here. Notably absent often Reeves, Lebron James and 504 00:27:37,400 --> 00:27:38,520 Speaker 4: Lebron James Jr. 505 00:27:39,160 --> 00:27:40,560 Speaker 3: From said press conference. 506 00:27:41,760 --> 00:27:45,040 Speaker 4: Now was Lucas saying, we got all we got right 507 00:27:45,080 --> 00:27:48,359 Speaker 4: here in this room. Need to know what kind of 508 00:27:48,400 --> 00:27:50,680 Speaker 4: like on Lakers dot Com when you click roster. 509 00:27:51,720 --> 00:27:56,040 Speaker 3: I would really hope the ladder I I'd like to 510 00:27:56,119 --> 00:28:00,840 Speaker 3: hypothesize he meant the ladder. There he insinuated the guys 511 00:28:00,920 --> 00:28:02,880 Speaker 3: on the room, right Martin, tell me, tell me that's 512 00:28:02,920 --> 00:28:05,160 Speaker 3: the case. I mean, yeah. 513 00:28:05,520 --> 00:28:08,159 Speaker 4: I put it like this man had a microphone, a 514 00:28:08,320 --> 00:28:10,560 Speaker 4: free reign to say what he wanted if he thinks 515 00:28:10,560 --> 00:28:13,040 Speaker 4: he can insinuate nothing if he thinks. 516 00:28:12,840 --> 00:28:15,600 Speaker 3: Him Da and Marcus Smart, two of those three, as 517 00:28:15,640 --> 00:28:19,159 Speaker 3: you alluded to eloquently on Saturday, were paid not to 518 00:28:19,200 --> 00:28:22,200 Speaker 3: be at their previous teams. Are enough to win a ring. 519 00:28:23,040 --> 00:28:25,520 Speaker 3: I'm gonna have to sign off right now. He had 520 00:28:25,600 --> 00:28:28,400 Speaker 3: to be meaning Lebron and Reefs. 521 00:28:28,480 --> 00:28:32,560 Speaker 4: I will say this as much as I chastised Michael 522 00:28:32,600 --> 00:28:35,760 Speaker 4: Pennix earlier in this show for talking about how he's 523 00:28:35,800 --> 00:28:39,360 Speaker 4: about to take the league over. He started three games 524 00:28:39,360 --> 00:28:42,840 Speaker 4: in his career that's far played in five. Luca has 525 00:28:42,920 --> 00:28:47,280 Speaker 4: more All pros than Michael Penicks. Michael Penix has starts 526 00:28:47,320 --> 00:28:50,080 Speaker 4: in the NFL. I am fine with Luca Nanta saying 527 00:28:50,160 --> 00:28:52,120 Speaker 4: I have everything I need to win a championship right here, 528 00:28:52,720 --> 00:28:56,160 Speaker 4: A okay with it, because he should have a level 529 00:28:56,160 --> 00:28:59,640 Speaker 4: of understanding of what it takes to win an NBA championship, 530 00:28:59,680 --> 00:29:02,320 Speaker 4: not because he has done so, but because he lost 531 00:29:02,360 --> 00:29:06,240 Speaker 4: one in such spectacular fashion that there's some level of 532 00:29:07,000 --> 00:29:10,760 Speaker 4: I'm gonna figure this out and then to be traded 533 00:29:10,880 --> 00:29:15,280 Speaker 4: unceremoniously from the team that you did lose that championship 534 00:29:15,280 --> 00:29:18,480 Speaker 4: with is now. Oh and I gotta show my ex 535 00:29:19,040 --> 00:29:23,240 Speaker 4: just how how much better I look at how much 536 00:29:23,240 --> 00:29:24,640 Speaker 4: more I'm going out now. 537 00:29:24,640 --> 00:29:27,960 Speaker 3: Sluca two point zero. This is crazy, stupid love Act three. 538 00:29:28,840 --> 00:29:32,600 Speaker 3: This is after the Gospeling makeover, baby, except it's in 539 00:29:32,680 --> 00:29:36,720 Speaker 3: the gym, not at North Triumps. But you brought up 540 00:29:37,080 --> 00:29:39,840 Speaker 3: a phenomenal point when we were talking this out. Because 541 00:29:39,840 --> 00:29:41,760 Speaker 3: I'm the Laker fan of the room here, I'm a 542 00:29:41,800 --> 00:29:44,640 Speaker 3: little emotional looking at the painting. You're a more logical 543 00:29:44,680 --> 00:29:50,480 Speaker 3: looking at the painting. Working through this, you said eons 544 00:29:51,200 --> 00:29:54,920 Speaker 3: Lebron is better than a running mate like PJ. Washington 545 00:29:55,080 --> 00:29:58,400 Speaker 3: was in Dallas. Sure, which is a great thought. And 546 00:29:58,440 --> 00:30:00,960 Speaker 3: so again we gotta rebring it up up based off 547 00:30:01,000 --> 00:30:05,560 Speaker 3: the Luca quote here. If Lebron has buy in, I 548 00:30:05,600 --> 00:30:08,600 Speaker 3: think they can go to see biscuit distance. The key 549 00:30:08,680 --> 00:30:13,320 Speaker 3: is going to be leadership and communication. I think the 550 00:30:13,520 --> 00:30:16,560 Speaker 3: issue is going to be the rest of the roster. 551 00:30:17,680 --> 00:30:22,400 Speaker 4: That may not be the best take, but again they did. 552 00:30:22,520 --> 00:30:25,120 Speaker 4: There are two players expected to be in the rotation, 553 00:30:25,640 --> 00:30:31,560 Speaker 4: one a most definite starter who were paid to leave. 554 00:30:32,600 --> 00:30:37,920 Speaker 4: They were evicted from their old job. They were paid 555 00:30:38,000 --> 00:30:42,600 Speaker 4: to leave and now are back, you know, I mean 556 00:30:42,640 --> 00:30:45,600 Speaker 4: back working good for them, but paid to leave. 557 00:30:47,440 --> 00:30:48,760 Speaker 3: And I'm not talking for two weeks. 558 00:30:48,760 --> 00:30:51,960 Speaker 4: I'm looking forever, like you get paid to go on vacation, 559 00:30:52,120 --> 00:30:55,080 Speaker 4: go two weeks forficat. We trade all the work you 560 00:30:55,200 --> 00:31:01,040 Speaker 4: do throughout the year fifty my week. Should go in 561 00:31:01,080 --> 00:31:02,760 Speaker 4: there and punch the clock. We'll give you two back. 562 00:31:02,800 --> 00:31:05,800 Speaker 4: Here you go, No, no, no, Day said we're we are. 563 00:31:06,160 --> 00:31:10,800 Speaker 4: We'd rather not. They essacially got laid off, you know, 564 00:31:10,840 --> 00:31:14,840 Speaker 4: And so you're telling me that DeAndre Ayton, who I 565 00:31:14,920 --> 00:31:20,840 Speaker 4: have not seen played meaningful basketball since Gianna's blocked his 566 00:31:20,920 --> 00:31:24,920 Speaker 4: shot in the finals. 567 00:31:23,240 --> 00:31:28,720 Speaker 3: All those years ago off the hyper extended knee. It's 568 00:31:28,760 --> 00:31:32,480 Speaker 3: been that. It's been sus then, yes, but there's something 569 00:31:32,480 --> 00:31:35,160 Speaker 3: to be said about again playing meaningful basketball. Marcus Smart 570 00:31:35,160 --> 00:31:37,480 Speaker 3: in the finals fifteen to five and four. Guy had 571 00:31:37,520 --> 00:31:39,880 Speaker 3: three games of three threes, one game of four. DA 572 00:31:39,960 --> 00:31:42,760 Speaker 3: had twenty one and nineteen in game one against the 573 00:31:42,800 --> 00:31:46,320 Speaker 3: Bucks in the finals. Two guys that played in the finals, 574 00:31:46,760 --> 00:31:50,040 Speaker 3: a leader that got to the finals and lost, and 575 00:31:50,160 --> 00:31:54,920 Speaker 3: a guy chasing Jordan. You would like to think and 576 00:31:55,440 --> 00:31:59,640 Speaker 3: ringless JJ Reddick Noggin he could figure out how to 577 00:31:59,680 --> 00:32:02,760 Speaker 3: get out as Jerald Butler three hundred and lead these 578 00:32:02,800 --> 00:32:05,120 Speaker 3: guys with a paccino speech. 579 00:32:05,200 --> 00:32:08,440 Speaker 4: It's been an entire presidential term since any of those 580 00:32:08,480 --> 00:32:09,840 Speaker 4: guys are in the finals. 581 00:32:10,280 --> 00:32:10,800 Speaker 3: That's deep. 582 00:32:11,640 --> 00:32:16,520 Speaker 4: And that's the other thing that you mentioned. Jonathan James Reddick, 583 00:32:18,560 --> 00:32:25,400 Speaker 4: who made the genius move of Game four, says. 584 00:32:25,160 --> 00:32:30,440 Speaker 3: You know what I've got it, I know what I'll do. 585 00:32:32,000 --> 00:32:32,720 Speaker 3: I'm gonna play. 586 00:32:32,800 --> 00:32:37,760 Speaker 4: My starter is the whole second half, Like nobody else 587 00:32:37,800 --> 00:32:41,160 Speaker 4: has thought. I think it's a good idea to keep 588 00:32:41,200 --> 00:32:43,240 Speaker 4: my best players in as long as possible. 589 00:32:45,120 --> 00:32:50,720 Speaker 9: I'm shocked that you're not feeling a little more optimistic 590 00:32:50,760 --> 00:32:54,720 Speaker 9: about Luca Lebron and the Lakers a full eighty two, which, oh, 591 00:32:54,760 --> 00:32:57,880 Speaker 9: by the way, we got a costco sample of when 592 00:32:58,000 --> 00:32:59,000 Speaker 9: Luca was festive. 593 00:32:59,000 --> 00:33:01,719 Speaker 3: We plump and listen. 594 00:33:02,160 --> 00:33:05,320 Speaker 4: I think Luka Doncics can change the forces of your franchise. 595 00:33:05,760 --> 00:33:08,320 Speaker 4: I both would have traded him if I was Dallas, 596 00:33:08,360 --> 00:33:10,520 Speaker 4: because I don't think you get this version of Luka 597 00:33:10,560 --> 00:33:12,880 Speaker 4: Doncics unless you do make a move. 598 00:33:13,240 --> 00:33:16,600 Speaker 3: I also would have been up there smiling like Ronald. 599 00:33:16,360 --> 00:33:20,600 Speaker 4: McDonald as Luca don chet if please let me give 600 00:33:20,600 --> 00:33:23,000 Speaker 4: you a hundred and sixty five million dollars, Please let 601 00:33:23,000 --> 00:33:24,719 Speaker 4: me give you a hundred and sixty five million dollars, 602 00:33:24,840 --> 00:33:26,320 Speaker 4: I'd be begging, please. 603 00:33:26,080 --> 00:33:28,840 Speaker 3: I'm begging you to just try to talk to Lakers 604 00:33:28,920 --> 00:33:31,120 Speaker 3: Nation that if we have buy in. 605 00:33:31,280 --> 00:33:33,920 Speaker 4: But this is you could look, you'll have the by 606 00:33:34,040 --> 00:33:35,240 Speaker 4: you could have the buy in. 607 00:33:35,520 --> 00:33:41,240 Speaker 3: But here's the problem. Okaysee is seventy ron Can you 608 00:33:41,280 --> 00:33:44,280 Speaker 3: back me up? Please? Luca was taken down this SGA 609 00:33:44,520 --> 00:33:50,360 Speaker 3: roster minus of Caruso and Hartenstein with two K seventy eight's. 610 00:33:50,920 --> 00:33:52,960 Speaker 7: You know, what's funny about the discourse around the Lakers 611 00:33:53,000 --> 00:33:55,280 Speaker 7: right now is outside of Okay, see, because you know, 612 00:33:55,320 --> 00:33:57,400 Speaker 7: the defending champ, they had the greatest regular season ever 613 00:33:57,440 --> 00:34:00,280 Speaker 7: or whatever. The team that most people bring up as 614 00:34:00,280 --> 00:34:02,240 Speaker 7: the biggest third in the Western Conference of Denver Nuggets, 615 00:34:02,920 --> 00:34:05,400 Speaker 7: and they're like, hey, they got Jokic, they got Jamal Murray. 616 00:34:05,440 --> 00:34:07,800 Speaker 7: You know they're they're legit, and he saw their offseason. 617 00:34:08,680 --> 00:34:12,280 Speaker 7: What's funny is all of the issues that Denver has 618 00:34:12,840 --> 00:34:15,120 Speaker 7: is like a mere image of what the Lakers are. 619 00:34:15,560 --> 00:34:18,280 Speaker 7: They got Jokic, we got Luca, they got Jamal Murray, 620 00:34:18,280 --> 00:34:22,040 Speaker 7: we got Lebron. They got a defensively challenged roster, we 621 00:34:22,080 --> 00:34:23,399 Speaker 7: got a defensive challenge roster. 622 00:34:23,600 --> 00:34:25,719 Speaker 3: And yet people come in and be like, hey, you 623 00:34:25,719 --> 00:34:26,600 Speaker 3: see their offseason. 624 00:34:27,400 --> 00:34:30,359 Speaker 7: They got Bruce Brown back shooting twenty eight percent from three, 625 00:34:30,400 --> 00:34:32,960 Speaker 7: but he's gonna be nice next to Yokic. And it's like, 626 00:34:33,400 --> 00:34:35,960 Speaker 7: why do they get the benefit of the doubt with 627 00:34:36,080 --> 00:34:40,799 Speaker 7: their one championship versus the Lakers who have Luca who's 628 00:34:40,800 --> 00:34:42,520 Speaker 7: been to the finals and Lebron who's not four. 629 00:34:42,640 --> 00:34:44,880 Speaker 3: It's a great point, mart Do you want to answer that? Yeah, 630 00:34:45,040 --> 00:34:48,440 Speaker 3: I'll answer that. Because they got Jo Kicch, we got Luca. 631 00:34:49,160 --> 00:34:51,960 Speaker 3: They the gap between jo Kich and Luca is not 632 00:34:52,200 --> 00:34:52,720 Speaker 3: that big. 633 00:34:52,840 --> 00:34:55,520 Speaker 4: First of all, we have to now remeasure the gap 634 00:34:55,560 --> 00:34:56,920 Speaker 4: now that Luca's lost all that way. 635 00:34:57,000 --> 00:34:59,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, remeasure it, babycause the gap was bigger. 636 00:35:00,160 --> 00:35:02,239 Speaker 4: Wait, so now we got to remeasage the gap now 637 00:35:02,280 --> 00:35:03,960 Speaker 4: that Lugus lost the wight and been out there. 638 00:35:04,160 --> 00:35:06,920 Speaker 3: But I think the Nuggets did get better. Adding of 639 00:35:06,920 --> 00:35:07,439 Speaker 3: course they. 640 00:35:07,320 --> 00:35:09,279 Speaker 7: Did, but they get the benefit of the doubt that 641 00:35:09,320 --> 00:35:11,000 Speaker 7: the Lakers don't. I don't understand it they do. 642 00:35:11,120 --> 00:35:14,600 Speaker 3: And also that team took the thunder the seven AG's 643 00:35:14,680 --> 00:35:18,680 Speaker 3: Hammy goes out might be a different entire narrative of 644 00:35:18,719 --> 00:35:19,360 Speaker 3: a playoffs. 645 00:35:19,440 --> 00:35:24,279 Speaker 4: You said that team, just to be clear, it was 646 00:35:24,400 --> 00:35:31,239 Speaker 4: not the Lakers that took them. Nowhere team right, That team, 647 00:35:31,320 --> 00:35:35,200 Speaker 4: like the Lakers, went quietly into the night by the 648 00:35:35,280 --> 00:35:36,480 Speaker 4: hands of Anthony Edwards. 649 00:35:36,520 --> 00:35:38,879 Speaker 10: The Giants gus because Luca ate two boxes of bad 650 00:35:38,920 --> 00:35:41,239 Speaker 10: pizza and he couldn't move in Game three? 651 00:35:43,640 --> 00:35:46,960 Speaker 4: Or was it because first year Jig first year Coachet 652 00:35:47,080 --> 00:35:49,320 Speaker 4: Reddick said I'm going to burn the boats at halftime 653 00:35:49,360 --> 00:35:52,920 Speaker 4: of Game four? Or was it the decision to play 654 00:35:53,000 --> 00:35:57,040 Speaker 4: Maxi Kleeber who you know Jackson Hayes was surprised to 655 00:35:57,080 --> 00:35:58,719 Speaker 4: find out had a locker in the locker room. 656 00:35:58,719 --> 00:36:00,560 Speaker 7: Well, you know, MAXI Cleeber also got and shape this off. 657 00:36:00,560 --> 00:36:02,440 Speaker 7: Seven know what's talking about it because you look at 658 00:36:02,480 --> 00:36:04,080 Speaker 7: that Men's Health article last year. 659 00:36:04,520 --> 00:36:07,600 Speaker 3: Last year theme wise, gentlemen, it was a year of continuity. 660 00:36:07,600 --> 00:36:11,960 Speaker 3: It was the teams that had the most players, ironically 661 00:36:12,360 --> 00:36:15,680 Speaker 3: in key roles from the year prior, working their way 662 00:36:15,719 --> 00:36:18,200 Speaker 3: and then you pepper in a Caruso and a Hartenstein. 663 00:36:18,280 --> 00:36:21,240 Speaker 3: It works out brilliantly. But everyone knew their said roles 664 00:36:21,680 --> 00:36:25,640 Speaker 3: and they had their set won. Two guys J Dubn Sga, 665 00:36:25,840 --> 00:36:29,359 Speaker 3: Siakham and Halley. Now it's a whole new year. Now 666 00:36:29,360 --> 00:36:31,879 Speaker 3: you got Jimmy Buckets for a year in Golden State, 667 00:36:31,920 --> 00:36:34,759 Speaker 3: you got Luca in La. We have to reset. I 668 00:36:34,880 --> 00:36:39,520 Speaker 3: feel the men in Black memory. I genuinely think we're 669 00:36:39,640 --> 00:36:44,080 Speaker 3: Helli Burton Achilles away from this thunder team, the youngest 670 00:36:44,120 --> 00:36:46,520 Speaker 3: team since the Late Blazers by the way, late Bill 671 00:36:46,520 --> 00:36:49,120 Speaker 3: Walton Blazers in seventy seven, from winning it all. I 672 00:36:49,280 --> 00:36:50,560 Speaker 3: genuinely feel that way. 673 00:36:50,880 --> 00:36:55,520 Speaker 4: So right now, as I shit neuralives did all. Okay, 674 00:36:55,560 --> 00:36:58,520 Speaker 4: she is better than the Lakers. Houston with Kevin Durant 675 00:36:58,560 --> 00:36:59,480 Speaker 4: is better than the Lakers. 676 00:37:00,239 --> 00:37:04,160 Speaker 7: Why yeah, Why, Like, you're so excited about a team 677 00:37:04,239 --> 00:37:05,480 Speaker 7: that got bounced in the first round. 678 00:37:05,600 --> 00:37:08,880 Speaker 3: I'm not. I'm not so excited I'd say that. 679 00:37:09,440 --> 00:37:12,560 Speaker 4: Well, first of all, that's ironic that you would say 680 00:37:12,600 --> 00:37:14,880 Speaker 4: I'm so excited about a team that got bounced, because. 681 00:37:15,360 --> 00:37:19,440 Speaker 10: You all talking about ptention for winning, but the two 682 00:37:19,520 --> 00:37:21,360 Speaker 10: best players have won at a high level. 683 00:37:21,520 --> 00:37:24,960 Speaker 4: The Rockets, to me, had a glaring issue that they addressed. 684 00:37:25,000 --> 00:37:27,160 Speaker 4: They needed to improve at the scoring guard has proved 685 00:37:27,680 --> 00:37:30,080 Speaker 4: and they get a guy who could hit open shots. 686 00:37:30,480 --> 00:37:33,520 Speaker 4: I think that team defensively misses nothing losing even though 687 00:37:33,520 --> 00:37:34,919 Speaker 4: they lost Dylan Brooks. 688 00:37:34,680 --> 00:37:36,200 Speaker 3: And just gets better offensively. 689 00:37:36,200 --> 00:37:38,800 Speaker 4: And I think Kevin Durant is still a tough matchup 690 00:37:38,840 --> 00:37:41,840 Speaker 4: in the postseason, surrounded by all those young dudes. Plus 691 00:37:41,880 --> 00:37:44,360 Speaker 4: I think one of the Thompsons, the Thompson Kid, takes 692 00:37:44,360 --> 00:37:47,560 Speaker 4: a step forward. I think the Timberwolves right now are 693 00:37:47,600 --> 00:37:49,839 Speaker 4: better than the Lakers. Why do I think that? Because 694 00:37:49,840 --> 00:37:53,280 Speaker 4: they just beat the almost swore beat the Lakers pretty 695 00:37:53,280 --> 00:37:55,799 Speaker 4: badly in the first round of the playoffs last year. 696 00:37:56,120 --> 00:37:58,800 Speaker 3: I think the Nuggets right now are better than the Lakers. 697 00:37:59,080 --> 00:38:00,919 Speaker 3: But why why? 698 00:38:00,920 --> 00:38:03,440 Speaker 4: Because I think Jokis is the best player. Jokis is 699 00:38:03,480 --> 00:38:06,440 Speaker 4: the best player in the NBA. And they improved that. 700 00:38:06,480 --> 00:38:09,000 Speaker 4: There's Michael Porter Junior was out to lunch unless he 701 00:38:09,080 --> 00:38:11,319 Speaker 4: was hitting them. The Lakers improved their glary weakness too. 702 00:38:12,200 --> 00:38:13,960 Speaker 4: You just don't write the Lakers. 703 00:38:14,560 --> 00:38:15,880 Speaker 3: I get it. It's wine. 704 00:38:16,080 --> 00:38:18,840 Speaker 10: Listen, you're living off two thousand and four to this day. 705 00:38:19,120 --> 00:38:22,680 Speaker 10: The Pistons got one championship in your lifetime, and you're like, yeah, 706 00:38:22,920 --> 00:38:25,600 Speaker 10: f the Lakers, it's up. We all bum It's Martin 707 00:38:25,680 --> 00:38:27,160 Speaker 10: Lakery a Laker. 708 00:38:27,200 --> 00:38:29,080 Speaker 4: Hey, you're in the slightest but I'll tell you this 709 00:38:29,160 --> 00:38:31,040 Speaker 4: and said, I say this with no shame because I'm 710 00:38:31,040 --> 00:38:33,880 Speaker 4: somebody who does it all the time. DeAndre Ayton is 711 00:38:33,920 --> 00:38:36,759 Speaker 4: a five thousand dollars car off Craigslist. All right, you 712 00:38:36,760 --> 00:38:39,080 Speaker 4: can buy it, you're registered, and of course you maybe 713 00:38:39,120 --> 00:38:40,240 Speaker 4: one thousand dollars to fix. 714 00:38:40,160 --> 00:38:41,520 Speaker 3: Up, and you will get around. 715 00:38:41,680 --> 00:38:44,399 Speaker 4: But you ain't impressing nobody with that old four jeep 716 00:38:44,480 --> 00:38:46,680 Speaker 4: terry Key, You're not impress anybody. 717 00:38:46,719 --> 00:38:49,000 Speaker 3: Would Hey you get married with the four cheap carris, Yeah, 718 00:38:49,080 --> 00:38:50,959 Speaker 3: I'm telling you can get married. But she ain't gonna 719 00:38:50,960 --> 00:38:54,000 Speaker 3: love you cut your car. Fifteen and ten is reliable. 720 00:38:54,160 --> 00:38:59,280 Speaker 3: Fifteen and ten. That's his career numbers. We're not asking 721 00:38:59,360 --> 00:39:02,479 Speaker 3: him to be one the second dude. You can even 722 00:39:02,480 --> 00:39:05,000 Speaker 3: make a case he's the fourth best player on the roster. 723 00:39:05,120 --> 00:39:06,480 Speaker 3: This is what you're asking him to do. 724 00:39:06,600 --> 00:39:09,200 Speaker 4: You're asking him to go into the Western Conference playoffs 725 00:39:09,200 --> 00:39:12,320 Speaker 4: and go toe to toe with that big band, serbian monster. 726 00:39:12,640 --> 00:39:14,440 Speaker 4: That's what you're asking him to do. Because what do 727 00:39:14,480 --> 00:39:16,960 Speaker 4: you Because here's I can see it now. Remember Darvinham 728 00:39:17,000 --> 00:39:19,520 Speaker 4: had the solution, but Ruey Hotsimore were out there. 729 00:39:19,640 --> 00:39:22,759 Speaker 3: That's what you sound like, all I missed the hands. No, no, no, 730 00:39:22,800 --> 00:39:29,680 Speaker 3: because Andyton, first of all, you got a Caruso headband 731 00:39:29,760 --> 00:39:32,640 Speaker 3: high different to how many inches covering and banging up yokis. 732 00:39:32,640 --> 00:39:34,200 Speaker 3: If the refs are gonna let the whistle go and 733 00:39:34,239 --> 00:39:36,600 Speaker 3: he can hand check and do all stuff that's nineties esque. 734 00:39:36,760 --> 00:39:39,600 Speaker 3: In the playoffs, all bets are off because you got 735 00:39:39,600 --> 00:39:43,680 Speaker 3: a couple of dogs on this Lakers team, like Ruy 736 00:39:43,719 --> 00:39:48,800 Speaker 3: Hotsimura that could probably play a little bit of second 737 00:39:48,800 --> 00:39:52,440 Speaker 3: fiddle to eight and knocking up yok It's the point 738 00:39:52,520 --> 00:39:55,799 Speaker 3: is is it's two top. If you're not gonna call 739 00:39:55,880 --> 00:39:57,520 Speaker 3: Lebron the top ten player this year. That's fine, but 740 00:39:57,560 --> 00:40:00,799 Speaker 3: he's a top fifteen. I would like to think we talked. Okay, 741 00:40:00,840 --> 00:40:03,680 Speaker 3: So two top fifteen guys and four guys that could 742 00:40:03,680 --> 00:40:05,799 Speaker 3: put the ball in the basket upside of fifteen twenty 743 00:40:05,840 --> 00:40:08,680 Speaker 3: points per game, and a couple of two way dogs. 744 00:40:09,000 --> 00:40:11,440 Speaker 3: This is almost as much about Redick being able to 745 00:40:11,640 --> 00:40:15,400 Speaker 3: manage stars as it is going out winning games. It 746 00:40:15,440 --> 00:40:17,359 Speaker 3: gonna win fifty three to fifty four games with their 747 00:40:17,400 --> 00:40:17,920 Speaker 3: eyes close. 748 00:40:18,160 --> 00:40:21,600 Speaker 4: I tell you what, I'm not an agent, but if 749 00:40:21,680 --> 00:40:26,279 Speaker 4: I was, and I needed to like rehab my guys, 750 00:40:27,840 --> 00:40:31,799 Speaker 4: you know, image before they jumped overseas. Like if I'm 751 00:40:31,840 --> 00:40:35,839 Speaker 4: trying to negotiate between the Sanghai Sharks and you know, 752 00:40:37,160 --> 00:40:40,839 Speaker 4: the Korean team or whatever, I'm gonna try my best 753 00:40:40,880 --> 00:40:43,239 Speaker 4: to get my client signed by the Lakers, because for 754 00:40:44,080 --> 00:40:47,879 Speaker 4: two months, talking heads everywhere, we'll talk about how great 755 00:40:47,920 --> 00:40:50,879 Speaker 4: this guy is, and then it'll be a disaster when 756 00:40:50,920 --> 00:40:54,319 Speaker 4: Shanghai somehow shines him away back if the Portland trip 757 00:40:54,360 --> 00:40:58,360 Speaker 4: Blazers paying Green American dollars to send this guy home. 758 00:40:59,120 --> 00:41:03,080 Speaker 3: When Lebron wins fifth ring with the Luka Doncics lead Lakers. 759 00:41:04,080 --> 00:41:06,440 Speaker 3: It might be the most impressive one outside of the 760 00:41:06,480 --> 00:41:08,520 Speaker 3: three one. It just might be. 761 00:41:09,280 --> 00:41:10,880 Speaker 4: It might be if you can, if you know what 762 00:41:11,719 --> 00:41:13,440 Speaker 4: that you want to talk about, having enough to win 763 00:41:13,480 --> 00:41:17,319 Speaker 4: a championship. Do they get money back if you buy 764 00:41:17,400 --> 00:41:19,439 Speaker 4: if you're GETNA, if you like get a buyout player. 765 00:41:19,480 --> 00:41:20,759 Speaker 4: You're gonna rebate on that