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Speaker 3: Well was the twenty twenty three Minnesota Vikings season has

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Speaker 3: come to a closed. We gear up for the off

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Speaker 3: season here on the Minnesota Vikings Podcast. My name is

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Speaker 3: Gabe Henderson. I'm on Lockside Vikings dot COM's Tatum Everett,

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Speaker 3: Jay Nelson, and our producer Eric Davidson. Guys, before we

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Speaker 3: start talking about the off season, we have to recap

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Speaker 3: this thirty to twenty loss at the Detroit Lions this

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Speaker 3: past Sunday that the Vikings suffered in just unfamiliar fashion.

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Speaker 3: We knew going into this game that there was a

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Speaker 3: number that we wanted Justin Jefferson to reach. He reached that,

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Speaker 3: but also reaching that number, we wanted to see this

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Speaker 3: Vikings team get a win with a three percent chance

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Speaker 3: of making the playoff. Granted, we didn't get the help

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Speaker 3: but the Vikings still in their season at seven and ten. Jay,

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Speaker 3: we'll start with you just understanding that the Vikings just

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Speaker 3: didn't have the season that it wanted to. How would

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Speaker 4: I think that there was so much adversity this entire season,

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Speaker 4: they're flying high. They raised a banner, you know, into

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Speaker 5: What they've got for the upcoming twenty twenty four season.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's hard sometimes to kind of have a takeaway

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Speaker 2: Didn't have that like attitude about it when it ended.

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Speaker 1: And I think the if JJ hadn't gotten the thousand yards,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, because we've been in this situation. I believe it

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Speaker 3: I was wasn't it wasn't there a stat that he

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Speaker 3: A lot of these guys. I just think of a

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Speaker 1: Tatum, Yeah, the veteran leadership I think was so key,

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Speaker 4: Well, you're going out on a high note and if

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Speaker 4: It's like the players don't feel that way. The coaches

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I just think about, you know, just guys who

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Speaker 3: you know, ripis Achilles or terrorist achilles week eight, it's

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Speaker 2: From, no doubt about it.

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Speaker 1: And I think that was something they obviously spoke about

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Speaker 2: You, but to make sure that your depth is there.

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Speaker 1: So I think that was something they talked about improving,

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Speaker 1: the season. Our Steph editor Craig Peters, was in the

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Speaker 1: was like, you know how many snaps the original eleven

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Speaker 1: players had all together this season? All together? The eleven

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Speaker 3: The original eleven training camps? Like who started the marport?

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Speaker 2: Sorry? On offense?

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Speaker 1: It's funny that you mentioned my offensive MVP because it's

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Speaker 2: Want him back.

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Speaker 2: I thought that was pretty interesting. That's apparently the intention.

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Speaker 1: He says, it's the most important position in sport and

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Speaker 1: that being a huge option obviously to both sides have

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Speaker 3: And I think just from he kind of won he

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Speaker 2: As opposed to feeling his absence when he's.

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Speaker 3: There, right, I mean, I just look at the Quarterback

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Speaker 3: Quacy is saying, Hey, we want this guy back. We

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Speaker 1: Well, and how many people, how many people came up

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Speaker 2: Like people who weren't even Vikings fans were being like,

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Speaker 1: Like the Netflix document Capture Captivated captured America's attention and

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Speaker 3: That's the perfect weight to in twenty twenty three with

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Speaker 3: But like for fans, they had no idea. They had

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Speaker 4: Sure For me, given the fact that we talked about

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Speaker 4: Main reason why is he was a twenty three overall

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Speaker 3: Absolutely and I just vividly remember JJ when he when

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Speaker 3: yards where you snatched the ball away from the same

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Speaker 3: corner and it was like, Okay, now we get to

443
00:19:08,040 --> 00:19:11,439
Speaker 3: see what this rookie wide receiver can be in this offense.

444
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Speaker 3: So kudos to him just being able to bounce back

445
00:19:13,640 --> 00:19:14,359
Speaker 3: his rookie season.

446
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Speaker 4: Yeah, to me with that, it was just showing the tenacity.

447
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Speaker 5: I think.

448
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Speaker 4: You know, one of the things you look at rookies

449
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Speaker 4: and kind of try to figure out when do they

450
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Speaker 4: take that step to feel like they're no longer a

451
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Speaker 4: rookie but they're a pro. And like you said, early

452
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Speaker 4: in the game, kind of having the ball taken from him,

453
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Speaker 4: you're just kind of like, come on, man, you know

454
00:19:31,200 --> 00:19:33,359
Speaker 4: we need you. And then later in the game just

455
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Speaker 4: to see him basically say that ain't happening again and

456
00:19:36,280 --> 00:19:38,720
Speaker 4: turn it on hitting that touchdown. That was a huge

457
00:19:38,720 --> 00:19:41,000
Speaker 4: moment for this team, and I think it really helped

458
00:19:41,040 --> 00:19:45,680
Speaker 4: him just solidify, especially publicly, that you know, I'm here,

459
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Speaker 4: I'm a pro, this is this is I'm supposed to

460
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Speaker 4: be here. And for me, he was just a big

461
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Speaker 4: boost to be able to have him on this team

462
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Speaker 4: given some of the different discrepancies we had in the

463
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Speaker 4: roster due to injury.

464
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Speaker 2: I will save my comments for maybe a Leader show date.

465
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Speaker 2: He might be a candidate for Rookie of the Year,

466
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Speaker 2: just saying, man, I feel like.

467
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Speaker 3: We should just move to the Rookie of the Year

468
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Speaker 3: at this one. No, my offensive MVP is TJ Hockinson.

469
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Speaker 3: Just the impact that he made with every quarterback that

470
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Speaker 3: was on this roster was felt. And when he got

471
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Speaker 3: injured later in the year, that's when some of our

472
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Speaker 3: offensive production started to decrease. I was doing some work

473
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Speaker 3: on just some of the stats that TJ put together

474
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Speaker 3: this year, and of course he almost had a thousand

475
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Speaker 3: yards receiving. He had nine hundred and sixty yards with

476
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Speaker 3: ninety five receptions and five touchdowns. But he had four

477
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Speaker 3: different quarterbacks throwing him the ball, and I was just

478
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Speaker 3: looking at the different splits between between those quarterbacks, and

479
00:20:40,840 --> 00:20:43,560
Speaker 3: with Kirk Cousins he had almost five hundred receiving yards,

480
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Speaker 3: with Josh Dobbs over three hundred, and then Nick Mullins

481
00:20:46,920 --> 00:20:49,280
Speaker 3: almost one hundred and seventy five receiving yards. So the

482
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Speaker 3: fact that he was the go to option for every

483
00:20:52,400 --> 00:20:55,679
Speaker 3: quarterback and he pretty much bailed everyone out weekend and

484
00:20:55,680 --> 00:21:01,040
Speaker 3: week out, his presence, in my opinion, was most felt JJ.

485
00:21:01,600 --> 00:21:03,520
Speaker 3: I believe. I know nobody has said JJ is the

486
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Speaker 3: offensive MVP, even though he's had four straight a thousand

487
00:21:06,920 --> 00:21:09,840
Speaker 3: yard receiving seasons, But those five weeks that JJ was

488
00:21:09,840 --> 00:21:12,359
Speaker 3: out and Jordan Maaddison was trying to figure out, you know,

489
00:21:12,440 --> 00:21:13,520
Speaker 3: his full identity.

490
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Speaker 5: TJ.

491
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Speaker 3: Hockinson, in my opinion, was the one constant that Vikings

492
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Speaker 3: fans and everyone could lean on just due to his

493
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Speaker 3: you know size, his structure, his veteran leadership and everything

494
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Speaker 3: that went into it. And while I did name the

495
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Speaker 3: receiving stats for Kate, for TJ. Hockinson, I believe him

496
00:21:32,640 --> 00:21:35,560
Speaker 3: as a blocking tight end got that much better. That

497
00:21:35,640 --> 00:21:37,280
Speaker 3: was one of his goals this year because he knew

498
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Speaker 3: he could run routes he can beat one on one coverage,

499
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Speaker 3: but blocking those outside linebackers, being able to sell an

500
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Speaker 3: edge on an outside zone read where the running back

501
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Speaker 3: is running outside of him and not let the defender

502
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Speaker 3: push him back. I believe he made an extra step

503
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Speaker 3: in his career this year. I'm interested to see how

504
00:21:54,760 --> 00:21:59,200
Speaker 3: he recovers from that ACL surgery. Just very unfortunate how

505
00:21:59,200 --> 00:22:03,040
Speaker 3: that happened, But still TJ in my opinion, just weekend

506
00:22:03,119 --> 00:22:04,520
Speaker 3: a week out, if you're in the locker room, you

507
00:22:04,760 --> 00:22:07,159
Speaker 3: kind of saw some of those bruises and some of

508
00:22:07,200 --> 00:22:08,960
Speaker 3: the bumps that he had in this body. But weekend

509
00:22:09,000 --> 00:22:11,040
Speaker 3: and week out, he you know, did what he needed

510
00:22:11,080 --> 00:22:12,720
Speaker 3: to do to be out there in that field and

511
00:22:12,880 --> 00:22:14,440
Speaker 3: show up and show off for his teammates.

512
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Speaker 1: I mean that rib injury, you know, that was so

513
00:22:17,720 --> 00:22:20,240
Speaker 1: significant and he just played right through it. He was

514
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Speaker 1: in there the next game. He was getting hit after hit.

515
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Speaker 1: There were so many times i was wincing from like

516
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Speaker 1: the press box of the field. I'm like, oh no,

517
00:22:28,119 --> 00:22:30,199
Speaker 1: please get up, because like I could tell that, like

518
00:22:30,240 --> 00:22:33,159
Speaker 1: it just was so uncomfortable. Sure, there are times in

519
00:22:33,200 --> 00:22:35,560
Speaker 1: the locker room afterwards where he was walking so slow

520
00:22:35,600 --> 00:22:38,160
Speaker 1: and I was like, man, that's gotta hurt. How does

521
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Speaker 1: this man play? It's so impressive, how tough. He is

522
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Speaker 1: really happy that he's here with an extension, hoping the

523
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Speaker 1: best for his rehab because he's definitely someone that completes

524
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Speaker 1: this offense moving forward for sure.

525
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think it was interesting to see how, you know,

526
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Speaker 3: TJ started the season off, and of course, you know,

527
00:22:57,040 --> 00:22:59,359
Speaker 3: he got that contract right before the season started, and

528
00:23:00,119 --> 00:23:02,399
Speaker 3: a lot of people were wondering was TJ going to

529
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Speaker 3: live up to the expectations of what Kevin o'connawa and

530
00:23:05,480 --> 00:23:07,960
Speaker 3: Quasi valued him as when it came to the dollar amount,

531
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Speaker 3: And of course he got off to a slow start.

532
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Speaker 3: But I feel like once we got to about week four,

533
00:23:13,160 --> 00:23:15,800
Speaker 3: week five, after we played the Kansas City Chiefs, I

534
00:23:15,880 --> 00:23:18,919
Speaker 3: really believe TJ started to believe that he was the

535
00:23:18,960 --> 00:23:21,480
Speaker 3: best tight end in the NFL, and weekend and week

536
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Speaker 3: out we started to see his production just ramp up.

537
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Speaker 3: So playing through those injuries, I feel like he just

538
00:23:27,400 --> 00:23:30,680
Speaker 3: kind of bought into what this team needed from him,

539
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Speaker 3: and we saw the results of that right before he

540
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Speaker 3: got injured. So it was really cool to see, I.

541
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Speaker 4: Think being able to have a guy like TJ. Hockinson

542
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Speaker 4: and then adding Justin Jefferson and Jordan Addison as your

543
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Speaker 4: kind of primary three weapons.

544
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Speaker 5: On this offense.

545
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Speaker 4: I think that is a massive embarrassment of riches for

546
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Speaker 4: a quarterback to be able to play with. And I

547
00:23:50,000 --> 00:23:53,600
Speaker 4: think a guy like Howkinson also benefits from having Jordan

548
00:23:53,640 --> 00:23:55,520
Speaker 4: and JJ stretched the field a little bit more and

549
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Speaker 4: kind of leave him those seamer outes and everything. And

550
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Speaker 4: I think one thing about Hawkinson two is like Tatum

551
00:24:02,240 --> 00:24:04,600
Speaker 4: was just saying, you know, he's willing to stick his

552
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Speaker 4: nose in there and kind of go for the difficult

553
00:24:08,880 --> 00:24:11,840
Speaker 4: catch and just kind of be able to produce no

554
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Speaker 4: matter what. So I think you want a guy with

555
00:24:14,320 --> 00:24:17,040
Speaker 4: kind of his abilities and his tenacity to be able

556
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Speaker 4: to be a kind of a cornerstone for your offense.

557
00:24:19,280 --> 00:24:21,920
Speaker 4: And I think we're all, you know, hoping and praying

558
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Speaker 4: for him that this offseason goes well.

559
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Speaker 5: Jay.

560
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Speaker 3: Everyone to stick with you defensive MVP.

561
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Speaker 4: Sure, who was yours mine this season was Daniel Hunter.

562
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Speaker 4: The main reason I brought up Daniel is just because

563
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Speaker 4: as a leader and as somebody who is, you know,

564
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Speaker 4: fighting for a contract this upcoming offseason, everyone kind of

565
00:24:39,520 --> 00:24:42,159
Speaker 4: assumed he would have a pretty solid season. He had

566
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Speaker 4: the best season.

567
00:24:42,760 --> 00:24:43,240
Speaker 5: Of his career.

568
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Speaker 4: He had the most combined tackles and the most sacks

569
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Speaker 4: of his career eighty three combined tackles, sixteen and a

570
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Speaker 4: half sacks, and for those in a single season, you know,

571
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Speaker 4: it just kind of feels like he understood what the

572
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Speaker 4: assignment was. And not only was he kind of wreaking

573
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Speaker 4: havoc for quarterbacks in the backfield, but he was the

574
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Speaker 4: amount of times you would see him kind of reading

575
00:25:02,400 --> 00:25:04,639
Speaker 4: a you know, handoff or something like that and kind

576
00:25:04,680 --> 00:25:07,080
Speaker 4: of jumping in the backfield or blowing something up off

577
00:25:07,119 --> 00:25:10,040
Speaker 4: the edge in that outside linebacker position. He to me,

578
00:25:10,320 --> 00:25:13,760
Speaker 4: felt like his presence was made every single week. And

579
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Speaker 4: so for me, it was just one of those things

580
00:25:15,800 --> 00:25:18,280
Speaker 4: where he was a standout option and he's going to

581
00:25:18,280 --> 00:25:21,600
Speaker 4: be a standout option here this this upcoming free agency period,

582
00:25:21,960 --> 00:25:23,720
Speaker 4: and so you know, I'm hoping we are able to

583
00:25:23,720 --> 00:25:25,600
Speaker 4: resign him just because of what he has meant to

584
00:25:25,600 --> 00:25:27,800
Speaker 4: this defense. And it sounded like, you know, he was

585
00:25:27,800 --> 00:25:29,800
Speaker 4: saying all the right things in the locker room on Monday,

586
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Speaker 4: But to me, Danil was just a difference maker and

587
00:25:33,320 --> 00:25:35,520
Speaker 4: for a team that was in need of some pass

588
00:25:35,600 --> 00:25:36,920
Speaker 4: rush as much as they could get.

589
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Speaker 5: He was the guy that everyone leaned on.

590
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Speaker 3: Sixteen and a half sex, the fourth most in a

591
00:25:42,320 --> 00:25:45,200
Speaker 3: season in Viking's history. Like that, I mean, we're talking

592
00:25:45,200 --> 00:25:47,440
Speaker 3: about just some of the greats.

593
00:25:47,240 --> 00:25:48,760
Speaker 5: Kind of quietly too very right.

594
00:25:48,840 --> 00:25:51,399
Speaker 4: So like you just assumed every week, all of a

595
00:25:51,440 --> 00:25:52,919
Speaker 4: sudden you look in the stat line and it's just

596
00:25:52,960 --> 00:25:54,920
Speaker 4: like he was, you know, the lone guy in week

597
00:25:54,960 --> 00:25:56,960
Speaker 4: eighteen that had a sack, and it just kind of

598
00:25:56,960 --> 00:25:59,280
Speaker 4: felt like week to week he was the one constant

599
00:25:59,280 --> 00:26:01,720
Speaker 4: showing up on that defensive sheet when it came to,

600
00:26:01,960 --> 00:26:04,159
Speaker 4: you know, people being able to pressure the quarterback and

601
00:26:05,000 --> 00:26:07,439
Speaker 4: get those sacks. So for me, he just to me

602
00:26:07,480 --> 00:26:09,040
Speaker 4: felt like he was the guy that I could point

603
00:26:09,080 --> 00:26:12,399
Speaker 4: to as who was the most impactful there on defense.

604
00:26:12,480 --> 00:26:14,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, if you take him out of the equation,

605
00:26:15,119 --> 00:26:18,360
Speaker 1: it would have been really difficult to try and make

606
00:26:18,440 --> 00:26:21,840
Speaker 1: this defense work. And you could see that, you know

607
00:26:21,920 --> 00:26:24,560
Speaker 1: how much trust Brian Flores had in that because he

608
00:26:24,640 --> 00:26:28,040
Speaker 1: knew there wasn't a ton of guys at the line

609
00:26:28,080 --> 00:26:31,600
Speaker 1: that he had as fingertips to be able to bring

610
00:26:31,640 --> 00:26:33,439
Speaker 1: the pressure. So we got creative in other ways. But

611
00:26:33,480 --> 00:26:36,760
Speaker 1: if his guys at the core and that front line

612
00:26:37,160 --> 00:26:39,480
Speaker 1: weren't doing their jobs, we would have seen a lot

613
00:26:40,160 --> 00:26:41,639
Speaker 1: a lot of different results, I think, And.

614
00:26:41,720 --> 00:26:45,679
Speaker 4: You saw guys like Pat Jones and Dj Wantam stepping

615
00:26:45,760 --> 00:26:48,040
Speaker 4: up in big games as well. And I just think

616
00:26:48,040 --> 00:26:50,879
Speaker 4: it's the combo platter we've always seen, at least in

617
00:26:50,880 --> 00:26:53,200
Speaker 4: the last probably twenty years here on this team. If

618
00:26:53,200 --> 00:26:56,399
Speaker 4: you have a combo platter of outside edge rushers and

619
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Speaker 4: defensive ends or outside linebackers who are able to squeeze

620
00:27:00,400 --> 00:27:02,120
Speaker 4: off of one side, then that means that they're having

621
00:27:02,119 --> 00:27:04,760
Speaker 4: a double team against kind of whoever the primary is.

622
00:27:04,800 --> 00:27:07,040
Speaker 4: That leaves the other guys one on one. So not

623
00:27:07,080 --> 00:27:10,080
Speaker 4: only is he kind of offenses having to adjust to

624
00:27:10,200 --> 00:27:13,560
Speaker 4: where he is, but it's also freeing up linebackers, safeties

625
00:27:13,600 --> 00:27:17,280
Speaker 4: and other defensive ends and outside linebackers to be able

626
00:27:17,320 --> 00:27:18,000
Speaker 4: to do what they need to do.

627
00:27:18,080 --> 00:27:20,399
Speaker 3: So for me, he was just such a difference maker.

628
00:27:20,640 --> 00:27:22,440
Speaker 3: I mean we didn't even mention the run game. Yeah,

629
00:27:22,520 --> 00:27:23,920
Speaker 3: I mean what he did in the run game. I

630
00:27:24,040 --> 00:27:26,119
Speaker 3: just keep thinking about that Atlanta Falcons game when they

631
00:27:26,160 --> 00:27:30,360
Speaker 3: got the ball in their own one yard line, Yeah, and.

632
00:27:30,640 --> 00:27:32,960
Speaker 4: Just down off the backside and kept them out of

633
00:27:33,000 --> 00:27:35,600
Speaker 4: the end zone. Like there's multiple times this year he

634
00:27:35,680 --> 00:27:37,399
Speaker 4: just saw him no matter where he was. It was

635
00:27:37,480 --> 00:27:40,760
Speaker 4: usually in the backfield at some point. Yeah, and just

636
00:27:40,880 --> 00:27:45,280
Speaker 4: kind of making them uncomfortable, whether it was quarterbacks, running backs,

637
00:27:45,800 --> 00:27:49,240
Speaker 4: I mean offensive linemen officially. They were on skates a

638
00:27:49,240 --> 00:27:50,800
Speaker 4: lot of times with that guy. And he's just as

639
00:27:50,840 --> 00:27:53,280
Speaker 4: an absolute beast. So he was my guy. He was

640
00:27:53,280 --> 00:27:55,959
Speaker 4: my standout for defense this year, Tatum, who's your standoff

641
00:27:55,960 --> 00:27:56,439
Speaker 4: for defense?

642
00:27:56,600 --> 00:28:00,199
Speaker 2: My standout for defense is not one singular person. It

643
00:28:00,280 --> 00:28:01,600
Speaker 2: is the group of safeties.

644
00:28:01,720 --> 00:28:03,720
Speaker 1: I think you can even track it back all the

645
00:28:03,760 --> 00:28:07,280
Speaker 1: way to training camp when that roster was released and

646
00:28:07,400 --> 00:28:10,919
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, you see six safeties on the

647
00:28:11,000 --> 00:28:15,520
Speaker 1: roster and you're like, hmmm, something's up with that. Explain yeah, yeah,

648
00:28:15,520 --> 00:28:18,680
Speaker 1: and you kind of saw it evolve throughout the season.

649
00:28:19,400 --> 00:28:21,760
Speaker 1: Three of the top five tacklers on the team were

650
00:28:21,800 --> 00:28:23,800
Speaker 1: the safeties, led by Buying them with one hundred and

651
00:28:23,800 --> 00:28:26,560
Speaker 1: thirty seven tackles, matell Us at one hundred and sixteen,

652
00:28:26,640 --> 00:28:30,440
Speaker 1: Harrison Smith with ninety three. They combined for ten forced funnels,

653
00:28:30,560 --> 00:28:36,560
Speaker 1: three interceptions, sixteen passes deflected, six sacks, and seventeen quarterback hits.

654
00:28:38,120 --> 00:28:39,280
Speaker 2: I know, right, I love that.

655
00:28:39,880 --> 00:28:42,320
Speaker 1: Uh yeah, I just think that it was a three

656
00:28:42,360 --> 00:28:45,560
Speaker 1: safety look a lot of times was bred out of necessity,

657
00:28:46,040 --> 00:28:48,640
Speaker 1: but I think it really played into the hands super

658
00:28:48,680 --> 00:28:52,160
Speaker 1: well of these guys, Harrison Smith holding down the old

659
00:28:52,200 --> 00:28:55,480
Speaker 1: school safety ways and being a good communicator, cam Bying

660
00:28:55,560 --> 00:28:58,360
Speaker 1: them all over the field. I mean, the guy barely

661
00:28:58,360 --> 00:29:00,840
Speaker 1: missed a tackle. He was always felt like he was

662
00:29:00,840 --> 00:29:02,640
Speaker 1: in the right place at the right time. And then

663
00:29:02,720 --> 00:29:06,960
Speaker 1: Josh mattelis mister everything you know, playing linebacker at times

664
00:29:07,080 --> 00:29:10,680
Speaker 1: being you know, playing safety, getting getting in coverage. How

665
00:29:10,680 --> 00:29:13,240
Speaker 1: about Cam Biden playing corner, you know, getting back to

666
00:29:13,280 --> 00:29:15,920
Speaker 1: his roots playing corner in the last two games, just

667
00:29:15,920 --> 00:29:17,640
Speaker 1: a little bit, the first game where he started, but

668
00:29:17,720 --> 00:29:19,640
Speaker 1: the last, you know, the Lions game, just playing a

669
00:29:19,680 --> 00:29:23,280
Speaker 1: little bit. But h just the way that they were

670
00:29:23,760 --> 00:29:27,160
Speaker 1: used to disguise looks how they were bunched together at

671
00:29:27,200 --> 00:29:29,280
Speaker 1: the line of scrimmage pre snap, and then they were

672
00:29:29,360 --> 00:29:31,280
Speaker 1: by the time, you know, when the ball was snapped,

673
00:29:31,280 --> 00:29:34,480
Speaker 1: they were spread out, trying to confuse a lot of quarterbacks.

674
00:29:34,480 --> 00:29:38,800
Speaker 2: I think was part of Brian Flores's secret weapon of sorts.

675
00:29:39,520 --> 00:29:42,320
Speaker 1: Like I said, bread out of necessity, because I think

676
00:29:42,360 --> 00:29:44,000
Speaker 1: that they could have used a little bit more depth

677
00:29:44,040 --> 00:29:47,360
Speaker 1: at quarterback, but the three safeties for me, really carried

678
00:29:47,440 --> 00:29:48,400
Speaker 1: this defense.

679
00:29:48,880 --> 00:29:53,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was a very unique take or very unique

680
00:29:53,560 --> 00:29:56,160
Speaker 3: angle going into this year of saying how many safeties

681
00:29:56,160 --> 00:29:58,480
Speaker 3: were on a roster like you said, and just saying

682
00:29:58,480 --> 00:30:01,160
Speaker 3: how that played out. I mean, the ten force fumbles

683
00:30:01,200 --> 00:30:03,440
Speaker 3: is probably the biggest stat that stands out to me,

684
00:30:03,600 --> 00:30:06,560
Speaker 3: just ten force fumbles between those three guys. I usually

685
00:30:06,600 --> 00:30:10,440
Speaker 3: on defense, when your safeties are leading the team in tackles,

686
00:30:10,640 --> 00:30:13,160
Speaker 3: not the greatest thing in the world, but how Brian

687
00:30:13,200 --> 00:30:16,400
Speaker 3: Flores used the safeties, it pretty much was best case

688
00:30:16,440 --> 00:30:19,480
Speaker 3: scenario for our defense. So really good point there.

689
00:30:19,560 --> 00:30:22,520
Speaker 4: Yeah, for me, I think that the safeties were very

690
00:30:22,600 --> 00:30:24,360
Speaker 4: much of the backbone of that, you know, the back

691
00:30:24,480 --> 00:30:26,560
Speaker 4: end of the defense that as they're supposed to be,

692
00:30:26,640 --> 00:30:29,400
Speaker 4: but they're not used in normal ways. It's not like

693
00:30:29,440 --> 00:30:31,360
Speaker 4: they're just sitting back there and cover two and just

694
00:30:31,480 --> 00:30:33,200
Speaker 4: kind of hanging out waiting to see what comes into

695
00:30:33,200 --> 00:30:37,000
Speaker 4: their zone. It's they're blitzing. They're like you said, up

696
00:30:37,000 --> 00:30:40,360
Speaker 4: in the line and dropping back delayed blitzing and then

697
00:30:40,480 --> 00:30:44,920
Speaker 4: even trying to cover and dropping into coverage in unorthodox

698
00:30:44,960 --> 00:30:47,920
Speaker 4: ways and I think that's not only confusing for the offense,

699
00:30:47,960 --> 00:30:50,000
Speaker 4: but can be confusing for the defense if you don't

700
00:30:50,000 --> 00:30:52,880
Speaker 4: have people that know their assignments. So the fact that

701
00:30:52,880 --> 00:30:55,080
Speaker 4: Flores trusts them as much as he did and the

702
00:30:55,080 --> 00:30:57,840
Speaker 4: amount that they were used this season was a testament

703
00:30:57,880 --> 00:31:00,600
Speaker 4: to not only you know Floras and of his scheme,

704
00:31:00,680 --> 00:31:03,120
Speaker 4: but just how much work those players and coaches put

705
00:31:03,160 --> 00:31:05,440
Speaker 4: into making sure everyone was sound in their assignment. So

706
00:31:05,760 --> 00:31:07,680
Speaker 4: it was great to watch them, and you know, I

707
00:31:07,760 --> 00:31:11,320
Speaker 4: just think the that core moving forward for the future.

708
00:31:11,360 --> 00:31:14,480
Speaker 4: There's some great young leadership that's also stepping up there,

709
00:31:14,880 --> 00:31:17,480
Speaker 4: and to me, I think the positions in really good

710
00:31:17,480 --> 00:31:18,200
Speaker 4: hands at this point.

711
00:31:18,320 --> 00:31:21,200
Speaker 3: I agree, I agree, and kind of leads me to

712
00:31:21,200 --> 00:31:25,760
Speaker 3: my defensive MVP, and that's Brian Flores. Just what he

713
00:31:25,880 --> 00:31:29,240
Speaker 3: did in year one with this defense is something that

714
00:31:29,520 --> 00:31:33,160
Speaker 3: I don't think I've ever seen in such a quick turnaround.

715
00:31:33,280 --> 00:31:35,719
Speaker 3: Just going from the you know, the twenty twenty two

716
00:31:35,840 --> 00:31:38,760
Speaker 3: and the twenty twenty one seasons, the Vikings were either

717
00:31:38,880 --> 00:31:42,120
Speaker 3: last place or second to last in almost every statistical category.

718
00:31:42,160 --> 00:31:45,360
Speaker 3: This year, they were in the top half in scoring, defense,

719
00:31:45,520 --> 00:31:48,440
Speaker 3: total defense, and yards per play, and then the most

720
00:31:48,560 --> 00:31:52,120
Speaker 3: impressive stat for me was the yards per rush. The

721
00:31:52,200 --> 00:31:55,200
Speaker 3: Vikings rink fourth in the NFL, and yards per rush

722
00:31:55,320 --> 00:31:58,760
Speaker 3: with three point eight yards allowed per carry. The goal,

723
00:31:58,760 --> 00:32:00,400
Speaker 3: if you look at the goals and the d defensive

724
00:32:00,400 --> 00:32:03,560
Speaker 3: meeting room, the number one goal every year is hold

725
00:32:03,600 --> 00:32:06,400
Speaker 3: the opposing team to four yards per carry. The fact

726
00:32:06,440 --> 00:32:09,240
Speaker 3: that the Vikings actually did that like that, that says

727
00:32:09,280 --> 00:32:11,760
Speaker 3: a lot about the guy called in the plays or

728
00:32:11,760 --> 00:32:14,000
Speaker 3: the guy orchestrating the defense. I mean, I'm talking about

729
00:32:14,080 --> 00:32:16,280
Speaker 3: yards per rush. When it came to run defense, the

730
00:32:16,360 --> 00:32:19,280
Speaker 3: Vikings were eighth in the NFL, and just looking at

731
00:32:19,720 --> 00:32:21,960
Speaker 3: like I said, with all due respect, looking at what

732
00:32:22,040 --> 00:32:24,760
Speaker 3: we had on paper going into this year and then

733
00:32:24,960 --> 00:32:27,560
Speaker 3: compounding that with the injuries that we had on defense

734
00:32:27,640 --> 00:32:30,160
Speaker 3: to be able to have a stat line like this,

735
00:32:30,720 --> 00:32:32,960
Speaker 3: that goes to show the work that Brian Flore has

736
00:32:33,000 --> 00:32:35,360
Speaker 3: put in a weekend and week out. Like I've had

737
00:32:35,440 --> 00:32:39,680
Speaker 3: numerous conversations with b Flow all year long, and a

738
00:32:39,680 --> 00:32:42,560
Speaker 3: lot of those conversations ended with, yeah, that's that's why

739
00:32:42,600 --> 00:32:44,640
Speaker 3: I stay up late at night. Sure, I asked him

740
00:32:44,640 --> 00:32:46,480
Speaker 3: a question, but yeah, that's why I stayed stay.

741
00:32:46,320 --> 00:32:46,880
Speaker 5: Up late at night.

742
00:32:46,920 --> 00:32:50,600
Speaker 3: And clearly those long nights paid off. And hopefully you

743
00:32:50,640 --> 00:32:53,640
Speaker 3: know that that continues to trend upward as b flow

744
00:32:53,680 --> 00:32:55,720
Speaker 3: continues to grow. This defense year in a year out.

745
00:32:55,800 --> 00:32:57,880
Speaker 4: I think if you're the defense, if there's one thing

746
00:32:57,920 --> 00:32:59,440
Speaker 4: you want to hang your head on, it is the

747
00:32:59,480 --> 00:33:02,040
Speaker 4: fact you had held an NFL offense.

748
00:33:01,640 --> 00:33:03,960
Speaker 5: To a goose egg in Las Vegas.

749
00:33:04,040 --> 00:33:07,280
Speaker 4: I think that was kind of the epitome of everything

750
00:33:07,400 --> 00:33:10,280
Speaker 4: coming together defensively. The fact that you won a game

751
00:33:10,320 --> 00:33:14,440
Speaker 4: three to nothing in Las Vegas and you put usag

752
00:33:14,520 --> 00:33:17,120
Speaker 4: got on the Raiders offense was incredibly impressive.

753
00:33:17,160 --> 00:33:20,200
Speaker 3: Adding on to that, it's tough to hold a team

754
00:33:20,520 --> 00:33:22,479
Speaker 3: to no points in the NFL, but to do that

755
00:33:22,800 --> 00:33:25,280
Speaker 3: in another team's home stadium. Yeah, that was the first

756
00:33:25,320 --> 00:33:28,240
Speaker 3: time since twenty eleven the Raiders have been shut out

757
00:33:28,280 --> 00:33:31,800
Speaker 3: at home. So to do that while scoring three points.

758
00:33:31,440 --> 00:33:34,200
Speaker 2: On offense like that was back in Oakland, back in.

759
00:33:34,680 --> 00:33:37,040
Speaker 3: It was against the Kansas City Chiefs. And I'm trying

760
00:33:37,040 --> 00:33:38,560
Speaker 3: to think I was I was looking at the last

761
00:33:38,560 --> 00:33:42,480
Speaker 3: time before that when the Raiders had a game where

762
00:33:42,480 --> 00:33:44,680
Speaker 3: they were held scoreless and it was against the Saint

763
00:33:44,720 --> 00:33:46,840
Speaker 3: Louis Rams. Sure, and it's just like, dude, I mean,

764
00:33:47,400 --> 00:33:51,080
Speaker 3: time has passed since we've seen something like this happen.

765
00:33:51,160 --> 00:33:53,480
Speaker 3: So yeah, that's a really good point. Jay. As we

766
00:33:53,520 --> 00:33:56,760
Speaker 3: move on to our final superlative of the show, I

767
00:33:56,800 --> 00:34:01,840
Speaker 3: want to highlight the rookie of the year. I'll start

768
00:34:01,920 --> 00:34:04,560
Speaker 3: with this, and my Rookie of the Year is going

769
00:34:04,600 --> 00:34:06,040
Speaker 3: to be Ivan Pace. I mean, I know, we just

770
00:34:06,080 --> 00:34:08,719
Speaker 3: talked about that Las Vegas Raiders game. That was kind

771
00:34:08,719 --> 00:34:11,640
Speaker 3: of the coming to welcome to the NFL moment or

772
00:34:11,719 --> 00:34:14,160
Speaker 3: having the NFL say, hey, welcome to the Ivan Pace world.

773
00:34:14,200 --> 00:34:16,439
Speaker 3: Because Ivan Pace had thirteen tackles that game, a sack

774
00:34:16,480 --> 00:34:19,600
Speaker 3: and interception, and was the NFC Defensive Player of the Week.

775
00:34:19,960 --> 00:34:24,319
Speaker 3: I just believe Ivan Pace just his story from being undrafted,

776
00:34:24,360 --> 00:34:27,279
Speaker 3: to being undersized, to not knowing if he was going

777
00:34:27,320 --> 00:34:30,240
Speaker 3: to start. I mean, you can We've documented this guy's

778
00:34:30,239 --> 00:34:33,000
Speaker 3: story weekend and week out, and for him to lead

779
00:34:33,040 --> 00:34:35,840
Speaker 3: all rookies and tackles be fourth and fourth on the

780
00:34:35,880 --> 00:34:38,560
Speaker 3: team and tackles third and solo tackles on the team fifth,

781
00:34:38,560 --> 00:34:41,680
Speaker 3: and sacks a third and interceptions fourth and QB hits

782
00:34:42,160 --> 00:34:45,759
Speaker 3: I mean top five and all those statistical categories for

783
00:34:45,800 --> 00:34:48,719
Speaker 3: a rookie undrafted free agent. That that was something that

784
00:34:49,120 --> 00:34:52,160
Speaker 3: really stood out to me and just this impact also,

785
00:34:52,200 --> 00:34:54,239
Speaker 3: I mean if the guy stayed healthy. We always know

786
00:34:54,320 --> 00:34:57,600
Speaker 3: the best ability is availability, and he was available weekend

787
00:34:57,640 --> 00:35:00,359
Speaker 3: and week out, starting seventeen, starting eleven game games while

788
00:35:00,360 --> 00:35:03,000
Speaker 3: playing in all seventeen. He's my Rookie of the Year.

789
00:35:03,000 --> 00:35:05,880
Speaker 3: And I know we can, you know, debate other guys,

790
00:35:05,920 --> 00:35:08,000
Speaker 3: but for me, I just think just what he did

791
00:35:08,280 --> 00:35:11,200
Speaker 3: was was very impactful for our entire team.

792
00:35:11,280 --> 00:35:12,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, I can see why. I mean, he's got that

793
00:35:13,040 --> 00:35:15,000
Speaker 1: dog in him. That's what he says all the time.

794
00:35:15,160 --> 00:35:18,840
Speaker 1: His dad, his dad always told him that's the mindset

795
00:35:18,880 --> 00:35:20,640
Speaker 1: you need to have, like people are always going to

796
00:35:20,680 --> 00:35:23,239
Speaker 1: discount you, but like your play on the field will

797
00:35:23,239 --> 00:35:25,239
Speaker 1: speak for itself, and you got that dog in you,

798
00:35:25,280 --> 00:35:28,480
Speaker 1: and then that's all he all he lives by. I

799
00:35:28,560 --> 00:35:32,640
Speaker 1: know that sounds silly because I sound so silly saying

800
00:35:32,640 --> 00:35:34,879
Speaker 1: and I yeah, I clearly don't.

801
00:35:34,960 --> 00:35:37,160
Speaker 3: But you're right. But honestly you're right though, You're like

802
00:35:37,200 --> 00:35:38,319
Speaker 3: you're you're one hundred percent right.

803
00:35:38,440 --> 00:35:41,279
Speaker 1: So it's it's a mentality, you know, it's it's it's

804
00:35:41,400 --> 00:35:43,880
Speaker 1: just you know, he he makes up for maybe the

805
00:35:43,920 --> 00:35:46,520
Speaker 1: physical intangibles that he wasn't blessed.

806
00:35:46,320 --> 00:35:48,160
Speaker 4: With, but that's the thing, at least on my end,

807
00:35:48,200 --> 00:35:50,040
Speaker 4: you look at a guy like him and say, how

808
00:35:50,040 --> 00:35:53,200
Speaker 4: did the entire league get it wrong over and over

809
00:35:53,239 --> 00:35:56,960
Speaker 4: again and miss on this guy. As impactful as he's

810
00:35:57,000 --> 00:35:59,960
Speaker 4: been for this team, It's incredible and we're incredibly fortunate

811
00:36:00,160 --> 00:36:01,640
Speaker 4: to be able to have him on this team.

812
00:36:01,680 --> 00:36:03,560
Speaker 5: I think he is one of those you know.

813
00:36:04,200 --> 00:36:05,920
Speaker 4: I know this is getting ahead of myself, but kind

814
00:36:05,920 --> 00:36:08,160
Speaker 4: of the John Randall Diamond and the rough type guys

815
00:36:08,200 --> 00:36:11,040
Speaker 4: that gets identified and the fact that he chose to

816
00:36:11,080 --> 00:36:13,719
Speaker 4: come to Minnesota where he saw an opportunity. I think

817
00:36:13,760 --> 00:36:16,759
Speaker 4: this guy is poised to be a member of this

818
00:36:16,800 --> 00:36:18,799
Speaker 4: franchise for a very long time, given what he's just

819
00:36:18,800 --> 00:36:20,640
Speaker 4: done and scratched the surfaces rookie season.

820
00:36:20,719 --> 00:36:23,040
Speaker 3: I know I told this story before earlier in the year,

821
00:36:23,040 --> 00:36:26,839
Speaker 3: but my college roommate coached I'van Paced in college at

822
00:36:26,840 --> 00:36:31,000
Speaker 3: the University of Cincinnati, and once we signed Ivan Pace

823
00:36:31,040 --> 00:36:34,840
Speaker 3: in the undrafted free agency period after the draft concluded,

824
00:36:35,320 --> 00:36:37,399
Speaker 3: I texted my guy and I was like, so, tell

825
00:36:37,440 --> 00:36:38,800
Speaker 3: me about this guy, and I've in paced because I

826
00:36:38,800 --> 00:36:41,640
Speaker 3: had seen him play week I believe it was Week one,

827
00:36:41,760 --> 00:36:44,920
Speaker 3: twenty twenty one when we played the Cincinnati Bengals, and

828
00:36:44,960 --> 00:36:47,480
Speaker 3: he sent me like this long paragraph of everything that

829
00:36:47,520 --> 00:36:50,319
Speaker 3: Ivan does for the team. And my guy isn't a

830
00:36:50,360 --> 00:36:52,480
Speaker 3: person that's going to give out too many accolades or

831
00:36:52,480 --> 00:36:54,759
Speaker 3: too many praises. So the fact that he said that,

832
00:36:55,200 --> 00:36:58,680
Speaker 3: and then fast forward to last week, I saw my guy.

833
00:36:58,719 --> 00:37:01,319
Speaker 3: He's at Notre Dame now, but he was at the

834
00:37:01,320 --> 00:37:03,680
Speaker 3: Liberty Oregon game in Phoenix and we went out for

835
00:37:03,719 --> 00:37:05,640
Speaker 3: a drink and it was like, I told you so, right,

836
00:37:05,920 --> 00:37:08,640
Speaker 3: I told you about Ivan Paysent. Just seeing how it all,

837
00:37:08,719 --> 00:37:10,880
Speaker 3: you know, played itself out. I'm so happy to have

838
00:37:10,920 --> 00:37:13,320
Speaker 3: Ivan paystin Purple. Yeah, it's great, all right, Tatum is

839
00:37:13,360 --> 00:37:14,080
Speaker 3: on you, all.

840
00:37:14,040 --> 00:37:18,120
Speaker 1: Right, So I'm piggybacking off Jay's offensive MVP. My rookie

841
00:37:18,160 --> 00:37:21,480
Speaker 1: of MVP is Jordan Addison. I feel like there really

842
00:37:22,560 --> 00:37:26,880
Speaker 1: was two very obvious choices for this award on this team.

843
00:37:27,200 --> 00:37:30,239
Speaker 1: You know, to have your first round like your first

844
00:37:30,280 --> 00:37:32,680
Speaker 1: round pick, making an immediate impact, that's really what you want,

845
00:37:32,719 --> 00:37:36,600
Speaker 1: and obviously Jordan Addison did just that. I'm so impressed

846
00:37:36,640 --> 00:37:38,960
Speaker 1: with his body control. There were so many times he

847
00:37:39,040 --> 00:37:42,200
Speaker 1: was catching balls. I think there's this one sideline catch

848
00:37:42,200 --> 00:37:44,120
Speaker 1: I remember where he just like plucked the ball the

849
00:37:44,160 --> 00:37:47,680
Speaker 1: sideline and kept his two toes right inside the line

850
00:37:47,960 --> 00:37:48,440
Speaker 1: to tapping.

851
00:37:48,840 --> 00:37:51,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly. It was amazing.

852
00:37:51,200 --> 00:37:54,200
Speaker 1: And then he's caught several balls at his shoelaces and

853
00:37:54,239 --> 00:37:56,359
Speaker 1: like just the way he had to like he tries

854
00:37:56,400 --> 00:37:57,960
Speaker 1: to read the ball. I mean, it's it's you know,

855
00:37:58,000 --> 00:38:00,520
Speaker 1: he's still working on that a little bit. I know,

856
00:38:00,719 --> 00:38:02,719
Speaker 1: you know, he slowed up against the Lions on that one,

857
00:38:03,040 --> 00:38:04,839
Speaker 1: that one catch, but but there have been times where

858
00:38:04,880 --> 00:38:07,400
Speaker 1: he's had to like slow up. He gets he slows up,

859
00:38:07,400 --> 00:38:09,719
Speaker 1: gets the pass interference calling. There are just things that

860
00:38:10,080 --> 00:38:13,200
Speaker 1: you can tell he understands and knows football.

861
00:38:13,360 --> 00:38:13,920
Speaker 2: He gets it.

862
00:38:14,000 --> 00:38:15,640
Speaker 4: One thing that's great with him is he's kind of

863
00:38:15,680 --> 00:38:18,800
Speaker 4: got a little bit of that Chris Carter body controlled

864
00:38:19,320 --> 00:38:22,560
Speaker 4: just he's advanced in those aspects because like you just said,

865
00:38:22,960 --> 00:38:25,640
Speaker 4: I think his first and one of possibly his most

866
00:38:25,640 --> 00:38:28,400
Speaker 4: impressive catches is one that was ruled not a catch.

867
00:38:28,719 --> 00:38:31,640
Speaker 3: I just remember that the Seahawks game, his first preseason game.

868
00:38:31,719 --> 00:38:33,320
Speaker 3: It was not rule to catch. It was on the

869
00:38:33,440 --> 00:38:36,160
Speaker 3: opposing sideline, he got both feet in. But of course

870
00:38:36,280 --> 00:38:39,360
Speaker 3: it's preseason, So why would Kevin O'Connell challenge, right.

871
00:38:39,280 --> 00:38:39,919
Speaker 5: And that's the thing.

872
00:38:40,000 --> 00:38:42,440
Speaker 4: So for me to have those kind of moments that

873
00:38:42,480 --> 00:38:45,000
Speaker 4: you saw right out the gate he kind of went ooh,

874
00:38:45,000 --> 00:38:47,239
Speaker 4: we might might have something here, and then just to

875
00:38:47,280 --> 00:38:50,200
Speaker 4: see it evolve throughout the entire season, I think he

876
00:38:51,000 --> 00:38:53,319
Speaker 4: showed why they were as high as they are on him.

877
00:38:53,360 --> 00:38:56,439
Speaker 5: So again, Tatum, you know, I feel I've thought about

878
00:38:56,440 --> 00:38:57,840
Speaker 5: this point. Yeah, but I agree with you.

879
00:38:57,880 --> 00:38:59,760
Speaker 4: I think, you know, as a Rookie of the Year Canada,

880
00:38:59,719 --> 00:39:01,560
Speaker 4: I think he is absolutely deserving at the time.

881
00:39:01,600 --> 00:39:05,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think there's a very big difference between Addison,

882
00:39:05,800 --> 00:39:08,799
Speaker 1: Jefferson and Hockinson and then like the crew of wide

883
00:39:08,880 --> 00:39:13,279
Speaker 1: receivers behind them and Titans behind them respectfully. Respectfully, yes,

884
00:39:13,480 --> 00:39:15,440
Speaker 1: and I'm not saying that like they're not a big difference,

885
00:39:15,440 --> 00:39:17,720
Speaker 1: but for a rookie to come in and to command

886
00:39:17,760 --> 00:39:21,000
Speaker 1: one hundred and eight targets in the season and to

887
00:39:21,040 --> 00:39:24,839
Speaker 1: be able to draw man coverage and to be the

888
00:39:24,880 --> 00:39:27,680
Speaker 1: long ball threat, the deep threat, the speed he's able

889
00:39:27,760 --> 00:39:30,839
Speaker 1: to get out there, while JJ is half the time

890
00:39:30,920 --> 00:39:34,320
Speaker 1: being you know, double covered and sometimes even triple covered.

891
00:39:34,080 --> 00:39:35,640
Speaker 2: Which will leave JA open.

892
00:39:35,840 --> 00:39:38,279
Speaker 1: So I don't know, I think this was such a

893
00:39:38,360 --> 00:39:41,480
Speaker 1: hit for Quacy in the front office. I'm excited to

894
00:39:41,480 --> 00:39:44,640
Speaker 1: see what's to come for him, But I definitely think

895
00:39:45,239 --> 00:39:47,480
Speaker 1: out of this rookie class, he is my MVP.

896
00:39:48,000 --> 00:39:48,239
Speaker 5: I think.

897
00:39:48,320 --> 00:39:50,440
Speaker 3: I mean, you guys just named so many great points

898
00:39:50,480 --> 00:39:53,600
Speaker 3: of what he did in the receiving game and how

899
00:39:53,640 --> 00:39:57,160
Speaker 3: he draw a double coverage and took double coverage off

900
00:39:57,239 --> 00:40:01,839
Speaker 3: JJ and provided and I guess garner respect from opposing defenses.

901
00:40:01,880 --> 00:40:04,239
Speaker 3: But one thing that really stood out to me that

902
00:40:04,480 --> 00:40:08,040
Speaker 3: I believe he progressed that the most is his run blocking.

903
00:40:08,320 --> 00:40:10,680
Speaker 3: I remember talking to Keenan McCardell of like, hey, like,

904
00:40:11,080 --> 00:40:13,000
Speaker 3: how important is run blocking when it comes to the

905
00:40:13,040 --> 00:40:16,160
Speaker 3: wide receiver position, And he started mentioning some Jordan Adison

906
00:40:16,200 --> 00:40:18,720
Speaker 3: plays and I just look at just this past week.

907
00:40:19,000 --> 00:40:21,200
Speaker 3: I'll we threw two or three screens and Jordan Adison's

908
00:40:21,200 --> 00:40:24,040
Speaker 3: blocking the cornerback to the sideline finishing the play, and

909
00:40:24,080 --> 00:40:27,279
Speaker 3: I'm like, all right, this guy has learned from his mistakes. One,

910
00:40:27,320 --> 00:40:30,480
Speaker 3: he's coachable, and that's the most. That's the number one

911
00:40:30,480 --> 00:40:32,000
Speaker 3: thing you want to be if you're a first round pick,

912
00:40:32,040 --> 00:40:33,920
Speaker 3: because you got all the money in the world. You

913
00:40:33,960 --> 00:40:35,480
Speaker 3: know you're getting the ball. But the fact that he's

914
00:40:35,480 --> 00:40:38,680
Speaker 3: coachable and then he's selfless. You can't teach that, Like,

915
00:40:38,680 --> 00:40:41,239
Speaker 3: those are just two things that just you have to

916
00:40:41,320 --> 00:40:42,719
Speaker 3: learn and you have to grow, and you just have

917
00:40:42,800 --> 00:40:44,760
Speaker 3: to understand if you want to be a complete wide receiver.

918
00:40:44,920 --> 00:40:48,000
Speaker 3: So just really really good points. And I'm happy Jordan

919
00:40:48,000 --> 00:40:50,680
Speaker 3: Addison's on our team. Jay, I'm going to get your

920
00:40:50,719 --> 00:40:53,160
Speaker 3: thoughts on our final superlative of the year.

921
00:40:53,360 --> 00:40:56,279
Speaker 4: So let's see, you took Avant past Junior, you took

922
00:40:56,360 --> 00:41:02,800
Speaker 4: Jordan Addison, and I go, you're both right now. For me,

923
00:41:02,920 --> 00:41:05,480
Speaker 4: it's I think those are the two home run hitters.

924
00:41:05,880 --> 00:41:07,920
Speaker 4: You know, one of the guys that actually and I

925
00:41:07,960 --> 00:41:09,839
Speaker 4: was trying to figure out, you know, is there anyone else,

926
00:41:09,960 --> 00:41:12,759
Speaker 4: especially rookie wise, that that came in and had a

927
00:41:12,800 --> 00:41:15,160
Speaker 4: noticeable season. You know, one of the guys that jumped

928
00:41:15,160 --> 00:41:17,440
Speaker 4: out to me a little bit as well was Makai Blackman,

929
00:41:17,560 --> 00:41:20,640
Speaker 4: just to see what he did coming off the draft.

930
00:41:20,719 --> 00:41:22,200
Speaker 4: You know, people are kind of curious as to what

931
00:41:22,239 --> 00:41:23,520
Speaker 4: he was going to be able to bring the team.

932
00:41:23,800 --> 00:41:26,279
Speaker 4: He had a solid season. But I mean, like we

933
00:41:26,400 --> 00:41:29,240
Speaker 4: just said, Jordan Addison setting records, I haven't paced Junior.

934
00:41:29,280 --> 00:41:32,279
Speaker 4: Stepping into a starting role wearing the green dot was

935
00:41:32,320 --> 00:41:35,080
Speaker 4: crucial and being able to step in when you had

936
00:41:35,080 --> 00:41:37,200
Speaker 4: guys like Jordan Hicks go out with injury. I think

937
00:41:37,800 --> 00:41:41,520
Speaker 4: both of those guys became incredibly important to both sides

938
00:41:41,560 --> 00:41:44,160
Speaker 4: of the ball, and to have them moving forward, I

939
00:41:44,160 --> 00:41:45,720
Speaker 4: think we are incredibly fortunate.

940
00:41:45,960 --> 00:41:48,640
Speaker 3: The cornerback position is going to be a huge priority

941
00:41:48,680 --> 00:41:51,239
Speaker 3: for this team this offseason. Not sure how they're going

942
00:41:51,280 --> 00:41:53,560
Speaker 3: to address it where it as free agency or the draft,

943
00:41:53,600 --> 00:41:56,640
Speaker 3: but I would bet my bottom dollar that the Vikings

944
00:41:57,080 --> 00:42:00,760
Speaker 3: have a new cornerback added to this roster this off season.

945
00:42:00,800 --> 00:42:04,400
Speaker 3: So it was good to see Makaye play get his

946
00:42:04,600 --> 00:42:06,960
Speaker 3: you know reps. I mean, we were highing him this offseason,

947
00:42:07,000 --> 00:42:09,680
Speaker 3: and I would say he performed pretty well given given

948
00:42:09,719 --> 00:42:12,600
Speaker 3: the opportunities that was provided for him, at least for

949
00:42:12,640 --> 00:42:13,040
Speaker 3: a rookie.

950
00:42:13,120 --> 00:42:16,239
Speaker 4: I believe he was listed as the third most plays

951
00:42:16,640 --> 00:42:20,200
Speaker 4: defensively at the cornerback position. And so to have a

952
00:42:20,239 --> 00:42:22,319
Speaker 4: guy like Mackay be able to, you know, step in

953
00:42:22,360 --> 00:42:24,239
Speaker 4: as a rookie, I mean we've been talking about how

954
00:42:24,280 --> 00:42:26,080
Speaker 4: many times with all these different groups, you get a

955
00:42:26,120 --> 00:42:27,440
Speaker 4: bunch of young guys in there and you got to

956
00:42:27,480 --> 00:42:30,719
Speaker 4: make sure that their assignment sound. And again, to me,

957
00:42:30,800 --> 00:42:32,600
Speaker 4: there was a bunch of times this year he kind

958
00:42:32,600 --> 00:42:34,840
Speaker 4: of went, oh, that's Makay, you know, making a play.

959
00:42:35,360 --> 00:42:37,120
Speaker 4: And so that was why I brought his name up,

960
00:42:37,239 --> 00:42:39,200
Speaker 4: was just kind of thinking through besides those other two

961
00:42:39,200 --> 00:42:42,120
Speaker 4: obvious ones. For me, he was somebody that really stood out.

962
00:42:42,280 --> 00:42:44,839
Speaker 2: Would it be a Vikings draft if they didn't.

963
00:42:44,560 --> 00:42:49,360
Speaker 1: Pick a cornerback, No, high, high round cornerback, just saying.

964
00:42:52,840 --> 00:42:54,920
Speaker 5: It's been a trend. Yes, there you go. But and

965
00:42:55,000 --> 00:42:55,959
Speaker 5: the thing is, you know, if you think.

966
00:42:55,880 --> 00:42:58,160
Speaker 2: About that a slippery slope, maybe so.

967
00:42:58,239 --> 00:43:00,800
Speaker 4: But if you think about you had a guy in

968
00:43:00,840 --> 00:43:04,000
Speaker 4: Mike Zimmer who was kind of the cornerback guru and

969
00:43:04,680 --> 00:43:07,040
Speaker 4: that was kind of his bread and butter. I think

970
00:43:07,120 --> 00:43:09,120
Speaker 4: if you really think about in the NFL, like what

971
00:43:09,320 --> 00:43:13,920
Speaker 4: is important a pass rush, a cornerback, possibly a safety,

972
00:43:14,520 --> 00:43:19,560
Speaker 4: and then superstar explosive offensive players, And that is the thing,

973
00:43:19,600 --> 00:43:21,600
Speaker 4: if you really think about it, at least on the

974
00:43:21,640 --> 00:43:24,640
Speaker 4: surface level, we have a ton of guys in those

975
00:43:24,680 --> 00:43:28,319
Speaker 4: positions that have been difference makers. I think so much

976
00:43:28,360 --> 00:43:31,239
Speaker 4: of it then turns into like we said last year,

977
00:43:31,239 --> 00:43:33,400
Speaker 4: you started a transition from some of the older veteran

978
00:43:33,440 --> 00:43:35,840
Speaker 4: players to more of a younger roster, A lot of

979
00:43:35,880 --> 00:43:38,320
Speaker 4: those guys got reps this year, and so going into

980
00:43:38,800 --> 00:43:41,600
Speaker 4: year two, three, and four for some of them, next

981
00:43:41,640 --> 00:43:44,000
Speaker 4: year is going to be an incredibly important season for them,

982
00:43:44,040 --> 00:43:47,319
Speaker 4: and hopefully that experience they earned this season is going

983
00:43:47,360 --> 00:43:50,160
Speaker 4: to pay off moving forward for this team, because you're

984
00:43:50,160 --> 00:43:52,440
Speaker 4: not going to be rookies or sophomores anymore. You're going

985
00:43:52,480 --> 00:43:54,520
Speaker 4: to be NFL players and you're going to be expected

986
00:43:54,560 --> 00:43:55,359
Speaker 4: to produce well.

987
00:43:55,440 --> 00:43:58,040
Speaker 3: Unfortunately, the Viking season comes to an end at seven

988
00:43:58,120 --> 00:44:01,440
Speaker 3: and ten. However, the playoffs are still alive and there

989
00:44:01,440 --> 00:44:06,360
Speaker 3: are still fourteen teams that will be in contention for

990
00:44:06,440 --> 00:44:08,719
Speaker 3: the Super Bowl this year. And of course we all

991
00:44:08,800 --> 00:44:11,400
Speaker 3: know the Ravens are the one seed in the AFCEED

992
00:44:11,440 --> 00:44:13,160
Speaker 3: and the San Francisco forty nine ers are the one

993
00:44:13,160 --> 00:44:17,040
Speaker 3: seed in the NFC. But this playoff picture, I personally

994
00:44:17,160 --> 00:44:19,359
Speaker 3: do not believe that it will be a one verse

995
00:44:19,480 --> 00:44:22,799
Speaker 3: one super Bowl. There were some very interesting matchups and

996
00:44:23,320 --> 00:44:25,279
Speaker 3: I just believe this will be one of the most

997
00:44:25,440 --> 00:44:28,839
Speaker 3: entertaining playoffs that we have seen in quite some time. Jay,

998
00:44:28,840 --> 00:44:29,640
Speaker 3: I'll see you smiling.

999
00:44:29,680 --> 00:44:33,040
Speaker 4: The reason I'm smiling here's my stupid stat of the day. Ready,

1000
00:44:33,080 --> 00:44:38,160
Speaker 4: this playoff season will be the first non Brady Manning playoffs.

1001
00:44:37,480 --> 00:44:41,280
Speaker 3: Since when was Manning drafted? Or when was Tom Brady drafted?

1002
00:44:41,920 --> 00:44:44,320
Speaker 4: Night, So this will be the first non playoff season

1003
00:44:44,680 --> 00:44:46,720
Speaker 4: with Brady or Manning since when.

1004
00:44:48,640 --> 00:44:53,160
Speaker 1: Ninety nine ninety eight were close?

1005
00:44:53,280 --> 00:44:55,440
Speaker 4: Yeah, so the year that the Vikings were making a

1006
00:44:55,520 --> 00:44:59,399
Speaker 4: run in Randall Cunningham, Randy Moss is a rookie, Tom

1007
00:44:59,440 --> 00:45:02,280
Speaker 4: Brady and Peyton Manning were they both there where ninety

1008
00:45:02,320 --> 00:45:05,120
Speaker 4: nine was their first playoff season. So it's going to

1009
00:45:05,160 --> 00:45:07,279
Speaker 4: be a crazy one. It always is. Wild Card Round

1010
00:45:07,320 --> 00:45:09,279
Speaker 4: is actually one of my favorite times of the year

1011
00:45:09,400 --> 00:45:13,520
Speaker 4: because this is very much the Davids versus Goliath type

1012
00:45:13,680 --> 00:45:17,080
Speaker 4: time of year. And I think there's some incredible matchups

1013
00:45:17,080 --> 00:45:20,160
Speaker 4: here that the NFL, just the script makers wrote it

1014
00:45:20,239 --> 00:45:21,200
Speaker 4: up perfectly for me.

1015
00:45:21,239 --> 00:45:25,000
Speaker 1: I mean this Lions Rams matchup that script makers are

1016
00:45:25,080 --> 00:45:28,880
Speaker 1: like cashing in the big bucks for that one. Quarterbacks

1017
00:45:28,920 --> 00:45:31,359
Speaker 1: traded from teams facing each other in the playoffs can

1018
00:45:31,480 --> 00:45:32,800
Speaker 1: be a break correct.

1019
00:45:33,080 --> 00:45:36,319
Speaker 3: And then you got the Packers Cowboys. The Packers are

1020
00:45:36,360 --> 00:45:37,240
Speaker 3: the Cowboys.

1021
00:45:36,880 --> 00:45:39,680
Speaker 2: Crypt is Yeah, I mean the no catch catch, no

1022
00:45:39,800 --> 00:45:40,719
Speaker 2: catch catch.

1023
00:45:40,480 --> 00:45:43,160
Speaker 3: I mean the Aaron Rodgers rolling out to the left

1024
00:45:43,200 --> 00:45:45,480
Speaker 3: throwing it to Donald driver, I believe, and the Tony

1025
00:45:45,480 --> 00:45:46,000
Speaker 3: totap and.

1026
00:45:46,000 --> 00:45:48,799
Speaker 2: The McCarthy connection exactly like.

1027
00:45:48,760 --> 00:45:52,680
Speaker 3: There's I mean love it Bill Stiller's I mean, this

1028
00:45:53,160 --> 00:45:54,919
Speaker 3: is going to be interesting. I mean, the Chiefs aren't

1029
00:45:54,920 --> 00:45:56,200
Speaker 3: aren't in a one seed. We get to see the

1030
00:45:56,280 --> 00:45:59,680
Speaker 3: Chiefs on Wildcar weekend against the fastest team in the

1031
00:45:59,800 --> 00:46:01,120
Speaker 3: NF Phill do you think.

1032
00:46:01,239 --> 00:46:04,920
Speaker 4: Do you think Miami's a tyreek a little upset about

1033
00:46:04,960 --> 00:46:05,680
Speaker 4: losing that game?

1034
00:46:05,719 --> 00:46:06,360
Speaker 5: Week eighteen?

1035
00:46:06,920 --> 00:46:09,279
Speaker 4: Would they rather be hosting the Bills at home or

1036
00:46:09,320 --> 00:46:12,320
Speaker 4: going to Kansas City for one of potentially the coldest games?

1037
00:46:12,640 --> 00:46:16,160
Speaker 4: And NFL players to be the high for the day

1038
00:46:16,280 --> 00:46:19,600
Speaker 4: is fourteen, the lowest negative three, and they are talking

1039
00:46:19,600 --> 00:46:23,839
Speaker 4: about having snow late in the night and it being

1040
00:46:24,120 --> 00:46:26,279
Speaker 4: potentially at least ten below zero one.

1041
00:46:26,360 --> 00:46:27,120
Speaker 2: It's that safe.

1042
00:46:28,480 --> 00:46:30,560
Speaker 4: We've done it before here, Kate just wondering.

1043
00:46:30,760 --> 00:46:33,280
Speaker 1: You know, I'm the non Minnesota in the room along

1044
00:46:33,280 --> 00:46:35,320
Speaker 1: with Kaye, but I don't understand. So I went to

1045
00:46:35,440 --> 00:46:37,719
Speaker 1: Arrowhead for an AFC championship game when they played the

1046
00:46:37,719 --> 00:46:39,759
Speaker 1: Titans a couple of years ago, well three or four

1047
00:46:39,840 --> 00:46:45,360
Speaker 1: years ago, and it was like low forties, windy as heck,

1048
00:46:45,520 --> 00:46:49,680
Speaker 1: and so like it was just so cold and the gritted.

1049
00:46:49,680 --> 00:46:52,000
Speaker 1: I had not lived in Minnesota or the north at all,

1050
00:46:52,280 --> 00:46:54,319
Speaker 1: so that was like really terrible for me.

1051
00:46:54,400 --> 00:46:57,000
Speaker 2: I cannot imagine it being like fourteen degrees.

1052
00:46:57,080 --> 00:46:59,560
Speaker 3: Now, the games at eight pm Eastern.

1053
00:46:59,719 --> 00:47:00,960
Speaker 5: Yes, it's a seven.

1054
00:47:00,760 --> 00:47:02,600
Speaker 2: O'clock so it's going to be negative temps.

1055
00:47:02,800 --> 00:47:03,440
Speaker 5: Yeah, easily.

1056
00:47:03,560 --> 00:47:06,279
Speaker 4: So the forecast is high a ten lower negative four

1057
00:47:06,400 --> 00:47:07,960
Speaker 4: ten to fifteen mile an hour wins.

1058
00:47:07,719 --> 00:47:08,040
Speaker 3: For the game.

1059
00:47:08,120 --> 00:47:09,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, Miami and Miami No.

1060
00:47:09,840 --> 00:47:11,480
Speaker 4: And I was going to say is and there's a

1061
00:47:11,480 --> 00:47:13,440
Speaker 4: whole lot of Miami guys that are going to be

1062
00:47:13,520 --> 00:47:16,839
Speaker 4: rolling into a minus Kansas City hard field.

1063
00:47:17,320 --> 00:47:19,640
Speaker 3: I mean, doesn't seem like a Bud Grant story.

1064
00:47:19,600 --> 00:47:21,279
Speaker 5: One hundred percent. But here's the thing.

1065
00:47:21,800 --> 00:47:24,200
Speaker 4: The one thing that I think Miami might be able

1066
00:47:24,239 --> 00:47:26,880
Speaker 4: to do is lean on the running game in a

1067
00:47:26,920 --> 00:47:29,480
Speaker 4: cold weather game like that for sure, And so they

1068
00:47:29,560 --> 00:47:32,719
Speaker 4: have two absolute studs, So you might be it might

1069
00:47:32,719 --> 00:47:36,440
Speaker 4: be a Moster versus Pacheco style game and a Chan

1070
00:47:36,760 --> 00:47:41,320
Speaker 4: and a Chan and track and Jerk and those guys

1071
00:47:41,360 --> 00:47:44,640
Speaker 4: like that game that we all expect to be thrown

1072
00:47:44,680 --> 00:47:47,400
Speaker 4: all over the field might just turn into the running

1073
00:47:47,400 --> 00:47:50,960
Speaker 4: game and see what kind of offensive defensive line smash

1074
00:47:51,000 --> 00:47:52,279
Speaker 4: mouth that you get for that game.

1075
00:47:52,320 --> 00:47:54,400
Speaker 1: I think Taylor ops out of this one because the temps.

1076
00:47:55,719 --> 00:47:57,040
Speaker 1: Of course, I'm talking about Taylor.

1077
00:47:56,800 --> 00:48:00,399
Speaker 5: Swift sitting in a in a skybox and toast.

1078
00:48:00,560 --> 00:48:04,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, I have the damn season shirt on was whirring.

1079
00:48:05,600 --> 00:48:09,160
Speaker 3: I'm just thinking about just that six. I'm reading this

1080
00:48:09,280 --> 00:48:12,160
Speaker 3: article and it says at kickoff the temperature is supposed

1081
00:48:12,160 --> 00:48:15,560
Speaker 3: to be hovering around six degrees at kickoff, hard pass,

1082
00:48:16,560 --> 00:48:18,319
Speaker 3: and I put any kind of money that stadium will

1083
00:48:18,360 --> 00:48:18,920
Speaker 3: be sold out.

1084
00:48:19,040 --> 00:48:19,960
Speaker 5: Oh it's gonna be crazy.

1085
00:48:20,040 --> 00:48:20,239
Speaker 1: Oh.

1086
00:48:20,320 --> 00:48:21,399
Speaker 2: I didn't even think, you know what.

1087
00:48:21,480 --> 00:48:22,880
Speaker 1: That's the kind of thing where I'm like, look, I

1088
00:48:22,920 --> 00:48:25,120
Speaker 1: get it, but I am watching this thing indoors.

1089
00:48:25,120 --> 00:48:28,080
Speaker 3: True. True, I mean I can only imagine the two

1090
00:48:28,200 --> 00:48:31,319
Speaker 3: years we were at Huntington Big Stadium here and just

1091
00:48:31,360 --> 00:48:33,960
Speaker 3: those playoff games, how cold that was. I mean, we

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Speaker 3: would have had to be there.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I'm not lie to you. If it was

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Speaker 2: an after statum, I may not have taken the job.

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Speaker 4: Even for us though, on those games that were ridiculously cold,

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Speaker 4: we'd be sitting up running the game up up in

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Speaker 4: the upper kind of skybox area. We'd have the windows

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Speaker 4: open so we could hear what was going on. So, yeah,

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Speaker 4: you're indoors, but there's concrete floor below you freezing your feet.

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Speaker 4: There's the air coming in. Now, it's just the way

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Speaker 4: football is supposed to be.

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Speaker 1: Amazon does make some pretty neat gadget that's correct. Where

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Speaker 1: Like the other day at the Patriots game, a friend

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Speaker 1: of mine, Jen Hale, does the sidelines for Fox, and

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Speaker 1: she was wearing battery operated feet in souls, that leggings,

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Speaker 1: hat and gloves.

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Speaker 3: Yea, I get it, I would do it.

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Speaker 5: I get it.

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Speaker 1: She's also Louisiana girl, you know, so she's probably you know,

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Speaker 1: we we tend to over exaggerate how cold we are

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Speaker 1: because we can't live in those conditions.

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Speaker 4: I'll look forward to watching that game with my on

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Speaker 4: my warm couch.

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Speaker 2: There you go, same Saturday night.

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Speaker 1: I selfishly want to see a Cowboys stealer Super Bowl.

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Speaker 3: Oh wow, that's like classic. I mean Cowboys, Well, I

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Speaker 3: guess Cowboys forty nine Ers NFC championship would be crazy.

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Speaker 2: I just want to see Mason.

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Speaker 1: Take the Steelers to the Super Bowl after they were

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Speaker 1: all like, you know, yeah, selfishly, it's like I want

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Speaker 1: to watch my in laws and my family square because

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Speaker 1: they both love both teams and I just want to

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Speaker 1: see it. You know.

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Speaker 4: One of the ones that's interesting for me is the

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Speaker 4: very first game this Saturday, Cleveland at Houston, the Deshaun

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Speaker 4: Watson Bowl. Just having just having Cleveland played the you know, Texans.

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Speaker 4: I think that's gonna be crazy. And also think about

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Speaker 4: the fact that Energy Stadium will go from having the

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Speaker 4: National Championship game to the very first.

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Speaker 5: Playoff in less than a week. So it's They've talked

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Speaker 5: to you Energy. That has got to.

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Speaker 4: Be an absolute logistical nightmare to try to switch everything

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Speaker 4: over that way. But man, it's got to be a

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Speaker 4: lot of fun done in Houston being able to have

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Speaker 4: access to all and its form.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, honestly that the Eagles Buccaneers matchup is underrated because

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Speaker 3: the Eagles have been.

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Speaker 2: They could talk ab out of the playoffs.

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Speaker 3: I wouldn't say tanking because that's not the word to use,

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Speaker 3: but the Eagles haven't been playing their best football and

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Speaker 3: the Buccaneers have, so that's interesting.

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Speaker 1: Also, I think I think the Bucks have have a

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Speaker 1: big chance to knock them out, which was Bucks are

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Speaker 1: at home right which which would be a very interesting

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Speaker 1: addition to the whole NFC South Sucks conversation.

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Speaker 4: I'm saying, for me, it's the idea that Philly has

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00:51:03,960 --> 00:51:06,960
Speaker 4: completely fumbled the bag being the only team to never

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00:51:07,000 --> 00:51:09,080
Speaker 4: get twelve wins after starting ten and one.

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Speaker 5: Crazy like they are.

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Speaker 4: It's nuts, But it's Philly and the playoffs, and I

1151
00:51:14,680 --> 00:51:17,640
Speaker 4: think everyone just assumes here we go again. They're going

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00:51:17,719 --> 00:51:19,440
Speaker 4: to find a way to turn it on. But the

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Speaker 4: real question for me is what's Baker got left up

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Speaker 4: his sleeve?

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Speaker 2: And I think as Bucks defense, but.

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Speaker 4: That's the thing is like the secondary is super tight.

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00:51:26,520 --> 00:51:28,960
Speaker 4: The question about but the question is going to be, like,

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Speaker 4: you know what happens with aj Brown, you know, coming

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Speaker 4: off the knee injury, et cetera. What can they do

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Speaker 4: against that defense, let alone what kind of misery they're

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Speaker 4: going to try to put Watson in.

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Speaker 2: So it's Jalen's finger.

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Speaker 4: Exactly, So like it's it's gonna be. It's a weird

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Speaker 4: one man, It's really is weird. If you'd have thought

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Speaker 4: ten and one Philly going to Tampa in the playoffs,

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Speaker 4: you're like, oh man, they're going to roll them. And

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Speaker 4: now we're all sitting here saying, as.

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Speaker 3: Much as I love this guy, why does Jameis Winston

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Speaker 3: feel like the loser in all of this.

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Speaker 4: Actually, you know what, It's funny because the amount of

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Speaker 4: people that our ex teammates or teammates coming out saying

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Speaker 4: he is the best guy in the locker room. I

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Speaker 4: think he's Actually it almost kind of turned into a

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Speaker 4: win for him, just the amount of love he's got

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Speaker 4: from people.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm just looking at Tom Brady, took over his team,

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Speaker 3: took him to a super Bowl, and two years later

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Speaker 3: Baker Mayfield has the same team and takes him to

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Speaker 3: the playoffs. So it's like, and Jamis couldn't do that

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Speaker 3: when he was a certain quarterback there. But like I said,

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Speaker 3: I'm a huge Jamis fan, just going back to his

1182
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Speaker 3: high school days. Well, that's a podcast.

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Speaker 5: That's home.

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Speaker 3: That's a long podcast.

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Speaker 5: That's a wrap up.

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Speaker 3: Thank you guys again for tuning in weekend and week

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Speaker 3: out to this show. We will have multiple shows this offseason,

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