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Speaker 1: Draft for your chance to win fifteen million dollars if

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Speaker 1: you can predict the perfect first ground. Tonight we'll preview

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Speaker 1: the college players you might be on the Browns draft

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Speaker 1: for this week. This is the University Hospitals Cleveland Brown's

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Speaker 1: Radio network. Here are your hosts, Kim Carmen and Nathan Sagura.

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Speaker 1: And in just a few days it goes down in

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Speaker 1: Las Vegas and we will have Pick to Pick too.

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Speaker 1: I'm tucking Pick coverage of the entire NFL Draft all

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Speaker 1: along the University Hospitals Cleveland Brown's Radio Network. Good evening,

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Speaker 1: everybody can carve it alongside of Nathan Sigura, and it

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Speaker 1: all starts tonight we preview draft. Dame Brugler will join us.

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Speaker 1: General manager Andrew Barry will join us. Nathan, it's that

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Speaker 1: time of year again. My friend will blank and then

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Speaker 1: away we'll go with the campaign. You're right, and first

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Speaker 1: of all, it's just great to be back in with

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Speaker 1: you and here having a good time. Get ready for

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Speaker 1: the draft. Go ahead. It's been two years since i've

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Speaker 1: actually been in this room, and so I tell you

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Speaker 1: there's nothing like a global pandemic to make you feel

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Speaker 1: what you're thankful for. My goodness gracious. So the room

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Speaker 1: looks sensational very much to say, it's orange. There's some

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Speaker 1: very nice decorations in here that we're not here the

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Speaker 1: I'm looking forward to everything throughout this weekend because we

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Speaker 1: again we got the first round coming up on Thursday night.

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Speaker 1: We'll start your broadcast coming up at eight pm. Even

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Speaker 1: though the Browns do not own a draft pick in

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Speaker 1: the first round four now they're originally slaughtered with the

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Speaker 1: thirteenth overall pick, but the Bronze made the trade for

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Speaker 1: Deshaun Watson. They no longer own the third pick. But

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Speaker 1: when you're talking about a franchise quarterback, that's a move

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Speaker 1: you make. So, Nathan, we have seven picks in this

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Speaker 1: draft coming up second round and number forty four overall,

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Speaker 1: then two and the third one and the fourth with

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Speaker 1: Andrew Barry to do some damage here this weekend. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: there's no doubt, and you go into this draft having

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Speaker 1: there's still work to be done in money to be spent,

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Speaker 1: I think in free agency as well as with this

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Speaker 1: Rochelle to joint Chase Win a Bitch and Miles Garrett

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Speaker 1: Curtis Weaver right now, But I still think every day

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Speaker 1: I think you look at would certainly like an according

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Speaker 1: from Myles Garrett, But you look at at this team,

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Speaker 1: Nathan starts to think, Okay, we gotta go after a

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Speaker 1: In the year twenty he led the NFL in passington

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Speaker 1: There's quarterbacks all over this conference. This is about it, Nathan,

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Speaker 1: Just about every single team out of the sixteen in

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Speaker 1: I mean, that is as good as seven quarterbacks in

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Speaker 1: That's seven of them right there. By the way. Derek

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Speaker 1: And then Trevor Lawrence was supposed to be can't miss

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Speaker 1: could have drafted Trevor Lawrence. Now, this is a tough draft.

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Speaker 1: They can't afford to make a mistake. Go ahead, back

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Speaker 1: to the Browns and and the quarterbacks. Ways, it's just

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Speaker 1: will call them? How important is it to find people

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Speaker 1: that can help your organization in those rounds that I'll

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Speaker 1: take Donovan People's jones the six rounders contributed to metrich

432
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Speaker 1: Felton last year, Nick Harris a fifth rounder. Now, looking

433
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Speaker 1: like you're starting center. Given the way salaries work, the

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Speaker 1: salary cap to be able to have some of that

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Speaker 1: what I would call very well priced labor for the organization. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: you know, any any time that you can find a

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Speaker 1: contributor on a rookie deal, it helps out your team

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Speaker 1: from a talent standpoint, and it helps out your team

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Speaker 1: from a long term planning perspective because of the positive

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Speaker 1: impact that it has on salary caps. So those guys

441
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Speaker 1: are key. They don't necessarily have to be stars or

442
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Speaker 1: starters for them to provide value, But um, those picks

443
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Speaker 1: are very very important. I want to ask you're talking

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Speaker 1: about some of the exercises you guys do and and

445
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Speaker 1: people share this with us last year was that at

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Speaker 1: a some point, I know, if you've done this yet

447
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Speaker 1: again this year, or if you're going to do it

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Speaker 1: again this year, but and I may not have it

449
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Speaker 1: exactly right, but that you would go around and to

450
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Speaker 1: be everybody on the draft board, take give me somebody

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Speaker 1: that you would absolutely pound the table for you have

452
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Speaker 1: to have and somebody's on the board that you personally

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Speaker 1: are like, that's not my guy, and that when you

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Speaker 1: went around basically everybody a lot there was a lot

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Speaker 1: of similarity and guys that were like but then also

456
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Speaker 1: guys that people didn't like to kind of show that

457
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Speaker 1: at the end of the day, the only person and

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Speaker 1: I think what he said the line was the only

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Speaker 1: person in here, it's gonna draft somebody that they're not

460
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Speaker 1: acent against his view? Was that a cool exercise and

461
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Speaker 1: just kind of eye opening. See that how many great

462
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Speaker 1: football minds can see and probably want the draft so hard, right,

463
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Speaker 1: because so many people can see things so differently, you know, honestly,

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Speaker 1: it's a little bit of an illustration. Um. So what

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Speaker 1: we did with that information we said, okay, if we

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Speaker 1: had to build a draft board where it was only

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Speaker 1: players that had received, you know, call it multiple votes.

468
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Speaker 1: Is hey, one of the players that people would be

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Speaker 1: most excited to acquire, and multiple votes where um at

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Speaker 1: least excited to acquire if we eliminated those and it

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Speaker 1: would be like a draft board of twenty four players

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Speaker 1: something along those lines. So it's a little bit more

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Speaker 1: of an example to say, hey, the draft is hard,

474
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Speaker 1: and diverge is pretty quickly, like take as much input

475
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Speaker 1: as possible, but you know there are going to be

476
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Speaker 1: guys that you know, even internally people are more enthusiastic

477
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Speaker 1: about or less enthusiastic about when you take them. And

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Speaker 1: that's not a function of of of not listening or whatever,

479
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Speaker 1: but just the player pool of like true quote unquote

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Speaker 1: consensus players is very small, um, not only across the NFL,

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Speaker 1: but even within buildings. When you get to that that

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Speaker 1: true let's call those twenty four. Are they typically first

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Speaker 1: rounders or does it sometimes surprised that, Like they can

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Speaker 1: be guys that are middle round guys. Now they're us

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Speaker 1: they're usually the high picks right otherwise, but if there

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Speaker 1: were no you would be going, you would be going early.

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Speaker 1: What are you doing Thursday night? How do you approach

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Speaker 1: a Thursday Night and some of the other gms who

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Speaker 1: because this is a unique draft and I think there

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Speaker 1: are eight teams of multiple first round picks, seven that

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Speaker 1: don't have both highest in NFL history, you know, and

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Speaker 1: I think get in to Miami getsd We're just gonna

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Speaker 1: watch Tyree Hill highlights. What are you can do kind

494
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Speaker 1: of during the first round? How do you approach that

495
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Speaker 1: knowing that you don't have a pick in that it

496
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Speaker 1: would be that difficult, not impossible, but challenging probably to

497
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Speaker 1: figure out a way to get into the first round.

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Speaker 1: If you're so inclined, I mean you were you really

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Speaker 1: still you really still monitors. So number one, you'll still

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Speaker 1: spend time with your your scouts and your staff and um,

501
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Speaker 1: and certainly watch the draft and um, you know, some

502
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Speaker 1: things do become actional. We'll certainly like you know, later

503
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Speaker 1: in the round. Um, you know. But the other the

504
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Speaker 1: other thing is it's not just um, you know, picks

505
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Speaker 1: that move during the draft. You know, sometimes it's players

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Speaker 1: as well. So you really just just really trying to

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Speaker 1: be plugged in. Um, you know, unlikely that will make

508
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Speaker 1: a major decision on on Thursday night. Um, but you know,

509
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Speaker 1: you can't can't completely unplug. They can't roll it out.

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Speaker 1: You can't rull it out. How often does the phone

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Speaker 1: ring or do you make calls? Just we'll think it

512
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Speaker 1: on a on a day to we'll call it Friday.

513
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Speaker 1: In the draft, like some people that it's frantic, all

514
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Speaker 1: called that trade, let's do this? Do that? What's it

515
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Speaker 1: actually like? So it's usually pretty calm until maybe five

516
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Speaker 1: to seven slots before before you pick um, I would say,

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Speaker 1: honestly as a matter of the you know, practice either

518
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Speaker 1: taking a call or making a call, probably like every

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Speaker 1: pick um through maybe like you're through the fourth round.

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Speaker 1: Like as I think back to draft, there probably hasn't

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Speaker 1: been a pick in the first three rounds. Um, you

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Speaker 1: know where we haven't even where we haven't taken a

523
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Speaker 1: call or made a call. So it's the trade. Activity

524
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Speaker 1: is usually pretty frequent. That's not always the case, but

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Speaker 1: you know, within the top four rounds usually there's a

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Speaker 1: fair amount of activity. Whatever the phone rings, you kind

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Speaker 1: of is it a little jolt of excitement like, oh man,

528
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Speaker 1: what can be? What can be coming right here? It

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Speaker 1: kind of becomes far from the course at this point,

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Speaker 1: So that is it usually a quick like think no, no,

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Speaker 1: you'd be surprised, Like, yeah, you'd be surprised because part

532
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Speaker 1: of it is you're trying to play out a number

533
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Speaker 1: of different scenarios based on how the next several picks

534
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Speaker 1: may fall. Um. But again that's why we try and

535
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Speaker 1: sort through as much of that as possible last week today. Um,

536
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Speaker 1: so you have a frameworking place, so you're not really

537
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Speaker 1: emotional during that time, and you're organized. We know you've

538
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Speaker 1: been doing salary caps and you as a young man,

539
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Speaker 1: which I know that you love this, but were you

540
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Speaker 1: also doing drafts back then? I mean I used to

541
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Speaker 1: do strata matic with my dad. We would break up

542
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Speaker 1: the whole NFL. We would draft the guys back out.

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Speaker 1: Is that something that you always did as a young

544
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Speaker 1: man as well? It's something I don't think so. I mean,

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Speaker 1: you probably have to ask my parents for that one,

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Speaker 1: but I don't. That's not anything I remember really doing. Right.

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Speaker 1: What are you most looking forward to over the next

548
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Speaker 1: three days? Um, you're really probably just having everybody in

549
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Speaker 1: who's worked so hard over the past you know, fourteen

550
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Speaker 1: or fifteen months, you know, I, you know, I feel

551
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Speaker 1: like we've done a lot of really good work and

552
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Speaker 1: we're certainly excited about adding good players. But it's one

553
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Speaker 1: of the few times aside from camp, you know, veteran

554
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Speaker 1: Mini camp as well, that um, you know, we really

555
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Speaker 1: get to spend time together and so it's it's just

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Speaker 1: it's kind of a great, um, great point in the

557
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Speaker 1: year because so many people have made so many sacrifices

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Speaker 1: to make the weekend successful. And I'll go back to

559
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Speaker 1: where I started talking about those areas scouts, and you

560
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Speaker 1: mentioned also that there's a lot of undrafted free agent work.

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Speaker 1: And I think everybody knows the draft, but the undrafted

562
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Speaker 1: portion you can end up with a guy like a J.

563
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Speaker 1: Green has been very good for us. That's kind of

564
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Speaker 1: a recruitment period. I know, it's something you're very excited about.

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Speaker 1: What is it about that period because people said, well,

566
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Speaker 1: they didn't even get rifted, but sometimes there's reasons for

567
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Speaker 1: that and you end up getting really good players there.

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Speaker 1: That's kind of the draft after the draft. What do

569
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Speaker 1: you love about that? I think it's it's similar to

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Speaker 1: how you operate in the late rounds because you realize

571
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Speaker 1: that you know, the probability would say that you know,

572
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Speaker 1: the overwhelming majority, you know probably won't work out over

573
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Speaker 1: the long over a long period of time. Um, you know,

574
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Speaker 1: some may not make it out of camp. Somebody make

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Speaker 1: it on the plastic squad and then maybe feels a

576
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Speaker 1: lout a little bit. But there real is the impact

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Speaker 1: of even just one guy you'll making it over a

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Speaker 1: multi year period and the impact that could have on

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Speaker 1: your team from a performance and salary acount perspective, you know,

580
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Speaker 1: really kind of makes it worthwhile. It is a little

581
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Speaker 1: bit of like kind of finding a needle in a haystack,

582
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Speaker 1: so to speak. But um, you know, if you have

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Speaker 1: a strong c F A class, it's it's something that

584
00:25:56,600 --> 00:25:58,480
Speaker 1: can can really help you over the long term. Again,

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Speaker 1: even if they're not necessarily starts on your team, maybe

586
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Speaker 1: always a pleasure excited to see what you're gonna do

587
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Speaker 1: here over the next few days and as always happy

588
00:26:06,320 --> 00:26:08,520
Speaker 1: that you're the one leading this organization to put that

589
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Speaker 1: best roster on the field and and get ready for seasons.

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Speaker 1: Appreciate you for having me. Nate. Alright, that's the Browns

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Speaker 1: us on the show right now, Dane, good evening friend,

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Speaker 1: Happy draft week, guys. Were it's the same to you, Dane,

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Speaker 1: some courier new though, no big deal, Dan, the longest

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Speaker 1: I was just saying just for my own person, like

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Speaker 1: Dane's a positive guy. He is, all right, Dane. It's

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Speaker 1: weird draft. It's not the star studded event of draft

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Speaker 1: drafts past, of of the quarterback situation. There's been several

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Speaker 1: people that are like, hey, you know, there's a lot

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Speaker 1: of guys moving up over the last few months, so

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Speaker 1: you know, let's just start there. It's it's the most

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Speaker 1: popular one of them. We're gonna get right to the

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Speaker 1: bronze here. How do you think this quarterback class shakes

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Speaker 1: out in this first round? It's really tough. And you know,

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Speaker 1: you talked to people around the league and they all

644
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Speaker 1: kind of saying the same thing, like, oh, you need

645
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Speaker 1: guys are gonna go, They're gonna go. And then it's like, okay,

646
00:29:00,600 --> 00:29:02,960
Speaker 1: well where do you think they're gonna go? And it's

647
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Speaker 1: so I'm not sure, you know, it's and that's why

648
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Speaker 1: it's tough. It's because no one has a great feel

649
00:29:08,560 --> 00:29:11,800
Speaker 1: when's that first quarterback off the board? When's that run start?

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Speaker 1: I don't think a quarterback goes six to Carolina. Would

651
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Speaker 1: Seattle at nine be tempted? Uh? Is it possible the

652
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Speaker 1: first quarterback doesn't come off the board until twenty and

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Speaker 1: the Steelers and you know, with the Steelers be attempted

654
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Speaker 1: to move up a little bit to get their guy.

655
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Speaker 1: So I mean, if I'm doing a mock draft right now,

656
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Speaker 1: good chance I don't have a quarterback in the first

657
00:29:33,240 --> 00:29:36,760
Speaker 1: nineteen picks until Kenny Pickett at number twenty. So it's

658
00:29:36,800 --> 00:29:39,640
Speaker 1: really going to be interesting. Last year, we we knew

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Speaker 1: quarterbacks going one to three. We knew Justin Fields was

660
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Speaker 1: gonna go somewhere top twelve, and we knew Mac Jones

661
00:29:45,680 --> 00:29:49,320
Speaker 1: likely somewhere top fifteen. This year, we have no clue

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00:29:49,400 --> 00:29:51,600
Speaker 1: on any of these quarterbacks how they're gonna fall. And

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Speaker 1: it makes it really tough the forecast the first round,

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Speaker 1: uh and with any position in any team. So it's

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Speaker 1: just gonna be a really fun first round Thursday night.

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Speaker 1: So real quick, you got Kenny Pickett going number twenty

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Speaker 1: to Pittsburgh. If you ask me right now, I mean

668
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Speaker 1: maybe I could change my mind in twenty minutes, but

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Speaker 1: right now that that's that's what I would That's what

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Speaker 1: I would say, And I think that pick it is

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Speaker 1: their top quarterback as we uh enter draft week. But

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Speaker 1: you know, if there's a chance picking you go ahead

673
00:30:21,440 --> 00:30:23,959
Speaker 1: of him, ahead of where the Steelers are picking. Um

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Speaker 1: and you know, there's there's always a chance that they'd

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Speaker 1: go with a different quarterback. But based off of what

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Speaker 1: I was being told, based on what other teams think,

677
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Speaker 1: they think, there's a good chance that pick it is

678
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Speaker 1: a top guy for for the Steelers and he could

679
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Speaker 1: be there at hey did dislike him as a fan

680
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Speaker 1: because I like both he and Malik Willis. I love

681
00:30:40,800 --> 00:30:42,840
Speaker 1: Malie Willis's attitude, and it'll be like, well, if they

682
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Speaker 1: went there, obviously I can't be a fan of it.

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Speaker 1: Let's talk about the Browns and pick forty four here, Nathan,

684
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Speaker 1: you had some interesting things to say. You thought it

685
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Speaker 1: could go defensive end. Uh and Ed Dresher if you

686
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Speaker 1: will are also a wide receiver. Daney got the same

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Speaker 1: thing there. Do you think that, yeah, that makes the

688
00:31:01,120 --> 00:31:04,760
Speaker 1: most sense. I think that, Uh, you know, you want

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Speaker 1: to get somebody that's going to make an impact, and

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Speaker 1: those two positions, whether you're creating disruption off the edge

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Speaker 1: or you're helping score points at receiver. I mean that

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Speaker 1: that's that's ideally what you're looking for. And I think

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Speaker 1: a big part of it will depend on who's there, obviously,

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Speaker 1: in terms of which position they go after, how many

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Speaker 1: wide receivers are off the board in the first forty picks,

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Speaker 1: how many edge rushers? I that that will probably be

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Speaker 1: the two most drafted positions in the first forty picks

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Speaker 1: this year, I'd say, without a doubt. And so who's

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Speaker 1: left out of those two positions and who who did

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Speaker 1: the Browns have ranked higher? And would the Browns be

701
00:31:40,040 --> 00:31:42,880
Speaker 1: tempted to maybe use one of those third rounders go

702
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Speaker 1: up five, six, seven spots in the second round just

703
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Speaker 1: to ensure that they get their guy, because again, we're

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Speaker 1: going to see a run and then once everybody goes

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Speaker 1: home Thursday night and on Friday, uh, when the kind

706
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Speaker 1: of reset things. Uh, you know, they Browns might be

707
00:31:58,400 --> 00:31:59,840
Speaker 1: tempted a little bit to move up just to get

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Speaker 1: their guy and for the right player. I think it

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Speaker 1: makes them sense. Talk with Dane Brugler, the draft expert

710
00:32:06,680 --> 00:32:10,200
Speaker 1: at the Athletic get his beast. It is absolutely must

711
00:32:10,240 --> 00:32:12,960
Speaker 1: have while you're watching the draft, see who the Browns draft.

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Speaker 1: Learn everything possible there is to know about them immediately.

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Speaker 1: It's all right here for you. Let's talk receivers, Let's

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00:32:19,720 --> 00:32:22,800
Speaker 1: talk edge forty four and Dane, it feels like we'll

715
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Speaker 1: start with the guy I know, we've talked a little

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Speaker 1: bit about George Pickens at receiver. If he was a

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00:32:26,480 --> 00:32:30,120
Speaker 1: guy maybe there at forty four. Talent is there coming

718
00:32:30,120 --> 00:32:31,920
Speaker 1: out the injury, but you're hearing a lot of stuff

719
00:32:31,960 --> 00:32:37,360
Speaker 1: come out that maturity issues. Maybe not the most coachable guy.

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Speaker 1: What are you kind of hearing with Pickens and how

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Speaker 1: does this all kind of work out with where he's

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Speaker 1: gonna go and and what kind of environment you would

723
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Speaker 1: need to have to draft him. Immaturity definitely is something

724
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Speaker 1: that it came up multiple times. We're doing research on

725
00:32:50,400 --> 00:32:52,880
Speaker 1: him both on and off the field. UM, it's something

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Speaker 1: that he's a young player, just turned twenty one years

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Speaker 1: old and he actually a young player, and that's something

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Speaker 1: that teams often take into account. UM. And that's that's

729
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Speaker 1: part of the reason why there's I think a decent

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00:33:05,000 --> 00:33:08,680
Speaker 1: chance Pickings will still be available UM at picks forty four,

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Speaker 1: and so Browns have to do their due diligence if

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Speaker 1: they're gonna have Pickings on their draft board. In terms

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Speaker 1: of uh, is he a guy that you want bringing

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00:33:16,520 --> 00:33:20,520
Speaker 1: brought to your locker room? Do you have the veterans

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Speaker 1: on in your wide receiver room that you feel comfortable

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Speaker 1: bringing a young guy in there and someone that you

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Speaker 1: know you think you can develop UM and you know

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Speaker 1: once the coaches get involved, what are their thoughts? And

739
00:33:31,200 --> 00:33:32,760
Speaker 1: so you know there's a lot going on with a

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Speaker 1: player like this who has talent, no doubt about it.

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Speaker 1: He has a wide receiver one potential. Uh. You know,

742
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Speaker 1: a guy at six three pounds, graceful athlete, outstanding skills UM.

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Speaker 1: But you know that's not the whole story. There's it's

744
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Speaker 1: a it's a complicated prospect who has a little bit

745
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Speaker 1: of boom or bus to him. When you look at

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Speaker 1: this draft in the edge rushers and two things forty four,

747
00:33:56,880 --> 00:33:59,440
Speaker 1: who are some names to pay attention to? And then

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00:33:59,560 --> 00:34:02,520
Speaker 1: how do you think it factors in Brown? Specifically knowing

749
00:34:02,560 --> 00:34:04,959
Speaker 1: what you know about Andrew Barry that, for example, in

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Speaker 1: your top ten edge rushers Jermaine Johnson twenty three point

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Speaker 1: three one in terms of age boy A twenty three

752
00:34:12,360 --> 00:34:16,080
Speaker 1: point four one. Uh, Dominique Robbinson twenty three point eight two,

753
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Speaker 1: and I skipped over how do you eva Katie Arnold

754
00:34:20,040 --> 00:34:22,920
Speaker 1: Aba Katie from Penn State twenty three point two six.

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Speaker 1: Are those guys that, while they may be very talented,

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Speaker 1: do you think they're likely maybe not on a Brown's

757
00:34:28,800 --> 00:34:31,440
Speaker 1: board at that age because of COVID and some guys

758
00:34:31,640 --> 00:34:33,560
Speaker 1: who you know, have stayed in the college a little

759
00:34:33,600 --> 00:34:37,360
Speaker 1: bit longer than perhaps we're seeing these redshirt seniors. I

760
00:34:38,080 --> 00:34:40,560
Speaker 1: think so. I mean it's in the past it's been

761
00:34:40,840 --> 00:34:43,239
Speaker 1: mostly first rounders, but I think that extends to to

762
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Speaker 1: second round two. They want younger players. This is a

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00:34:46,560 --> 00:34:50,640
Speaker 1: regime and a franchise that truly believes age matters when

764
00:34:50,640 --> 00:34:54,040
Speaker 1: it comes to the draft, and you know, that's uh,

765
00:34:54,120 --> 00:34:57,239
Speaker 1: it's debatable. I mean, it's something that, um, you know,

766
00:34:57,440 --> 00:34:59,839
Speaker 1: we could certainly have a conversation about, but it's there's

767
00:34:59,840 --> 00:35:03,600
Speaker 1: so many layers involved. But I think it's it's something

768
00:35:03,640 --> 00:35:05,480
Speaker 1: that doesn't matter what we think. I think it's something

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00:35:05,520 --> 00:35:07,560
Speaker 1: this team really believes in. And so if and Arnold

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00:35:07,640 --> 00:35:11,200
Speaker 1: up Chetti comes off the board at thirty eight, there

771
00:35:11,280 --> 00:35:13,160
Speaker 1: might be some Browns fans, oh we just missed him,

772
00:35:13,160 --> 00:35:15,680
Speaker 1: but he's probably maybe he's not a guy that they're

773
00:35:15,680 --> 00:35:18,440
Speaker 1: really considering because of that age that that's just a factor.

774
00:35:18,520 --> 00:35:20,800
Speaker 1: And so I'll tell you one of the interesting players

775
00:35:20,800 --> 00:35:23,600
Speaker 1: that I'll be watching for is George karl offtus how

776
00:35:23,640 --> 00:35:27,080
Speaker 1: to Purdue Uh, he just turned twenty one years old.

777
00:35:27,120 --> 00:35:30,319
Speaker 1: He's young, he's a true junior. Um, there's a chance

778
00:35:30,320 --> 00:35:32,000
Speaker 1: he could still be around in the second round. I

779
00:35:32,040 --> 00:35:34,359
Speaker 1: don't know that he makes the forty four, but if

780
00:35:34,360 --> 00:35:36,919
Speaker 1: he were to make it to thirty three, thirty thirty five,

781
00:35:37,040 --> 00:35:39,759
Speaker 1: is that someone the Brown to be eager to go get.

782
00:35:39,840 --> 00:35:42,080
Speaker 1: He's a fun player, but a lot of I know

783
00:35:42,160 --> 00:35:44,200
Speaker 1: some teams believe he's just kind of hit that feeling

784
00:35:44,600 --> 00:35:46,840
Speaker 1: of who he is. He's not a guy that you

785
00:35:47,440 --> 00:35:50,960
Speaker 1: see a tremendous upside in, but you have a good

786
00:35:50,960 --> 00:35:53,160
Speaker 1: feel for what you're gonna get with that motor, with

787
00:35:53,200 --> 00:35:57,000
Speaker 1: his hand skills, Uh, that initial burst off off the edge.

788
00:35:57,000 --> 00:35:59,719
Speaker 1: So karl Offtus is one of those edge players that

789
00:36:00,000 --> 00:36:03,359
Speaker 1: good creep into the second round and make you think

790
00:36:03,360 --> 00:36:05,560
Speaker 1: about possibly moving up. And then you know we've talked

791
00:36:05,600 --> 00:36:08,640
Speaker 1: about before, but Logan Hall from Houston, who Uh you know,

792
00:36:09,239 --> 00:36:11,840
Speaker 1: it's split around the league in terms. Is he a

793
00:36:11,880 --> 00:36:13,840
Speaker 1: pass rusher on the edge? Is he more of a

794
00:36:13,920 --> 00:36:18,040
Speaker 1: three technique? Um? I think regardless, that inside of versatility

795
00:36:18,080 --> 00:36:20,359
Speaker 1: is something that will appeal to this team. Just turned

796
00:36:20,400 --> 00:36:24,440
Speaker 1: twenty two years old. Uh, young for even a true senior. Uh,

797
00:36:24,480 --> 00:36:26,839
Speaker 1: and a guy that's still growing, still developing. There's there's

798
00:36:26,920 --> 00:36:30,640
Speaker 1: upside there six six pounds. You feel good about who

799
00:36:30,640 --> 00:36:32,720
Speaker 1: he is now, but also what he's going to develop

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00:36:32,800 --> 00:36:35,600
Speaker 1: into as he gets more coaching and he continues to

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00:36:35,640 --> 00:36:38,880
Speaker 1: develop his game. It is the beast all you have

802
00:36:38,960 --> 00:36:41,200
Speaker 1: to be as an athletic subscriber to go ahead and

803
00:36:41,239 --> 00:36:43,920
Speaker 1: get it. It is the best that you're going to

804
00:36:44,000 --> 00:36:46,200
Speaker 1: find that right when it comes to any year of

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00:36:46,239 --> 00:36:49,279
Speaker 1: the draft, and especially two, it's no different. Dane. We

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00:36:49,320 --> 00:36:50,799
Speaker 1: thank you very much for the time. We'll talk to

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Speaker 1: you later this week, my friend looking forward to it. Thanks, gentlemen,

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00:36:54,280 --> 00:36:57,319
Speaker 1: the great Dane Brugler at DP Bruegler on Twitter from

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Speaker 1: the Athletic Event, the author of The Beast, which you

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Speaker 1: can see you right here on the YouTube feed. Coming

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Speaker 1: up next, Nathan and I we go around the league.

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Speaker 1: have ourselves the Brown's Draft Review Show. That'll be with

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Speaker 1: you at seven o'clock next Monday. All right, time to

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Speaker 1: go around the league factor fiction. The Browns will make

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Speaker 1: every one of their seven picks fiction. They're gonna move

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Speaker 1: around at some point, so like I interpret that to me,

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Speaker 1: they're gonna make all seven picks as they are. No,

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Speaker 1: I think they could draft seven guys, they could draft

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Speaker 1: eight guys. I think they're gonna try to get some

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Speaker 1: picks back in the future drafts as well. I interpreted

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00:38:29,680 --> 00:38:33,839
Speaker 1: is that they will make seven picks, and I'm like, well,

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Speaker 1: I don't know they could. I mean if it were

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Speaker 1: maya yeah, because I'm thinking about it now. I'm in

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00:38:38,680 --> 00:38:40,640
Speaker 1: the second guest myself, because I'm thinking about it now.

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00:38:40,640 --> 00:38:43,600
Speaker 1: I'm going, well, you know, the draft, it's you can

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00:38:43,600 --> 00:38:45,560
Speaker 1: always kick it down and kick the can down the road. Well,

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00:38:45,600 --> 00:38:47,000
Speaker 1: I think you, I mean, your first picks and pick

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00:38:47,040 --> 00:38:49,320
Speaker 1: forty four, you're probably gonna make that or you know whatever,

845
00:38:49,440 --> 00:38:52,040
Speaker 1: move around and still make that second round pick. But

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00:38:52,520 --> 00:38:53,920
Speaker 1: I think a lot of other teams might have the

847
00:38:53,960 --> 00:38:55,440
Speaker 1: same idea, so you might be stuck where you have

848
00:38:55,480 --> 00:38:57,359
Speaker 1: to make those picks. We'll see how that one goes. Well,

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Speaker 1: the to have the two O two in the city six,

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Speaker 1: I could see those being moved. If they really liked

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Speaker 1: this undrafted free agent class and feel like they've done

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Speaker 1: a good job and they're well positioned to recruit some

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Speaker 1: of the top underrafted free agents. I could see them

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Speaker 1: trying to kick some of those picks into the future

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Speaker 1: to get pick up a fifth or fourth in a

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Speaker 1: in a future draft, you can move competatory picks. Okay,

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Speaker 1: I just want to make sure because there was some

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Speaker 1: questions before about whether or not you can move competatory picks.

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Speaker 1: Uh factor fiction, No qbs will be taken in the

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Speaker 1: top ten. I think that's fiction. I just think it's

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Speaker 1: the position of someone's gonna do something. Yeah, I totally

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Speaker 1: agree with you. Well, that's not as much fun trained

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Speaker 1: with each other, all right? Who will be the first

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Speaker 1: wide receiver taken in the draft? I would have said

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Speaker 1: Garrett Wilson, but it just feels like Jamison Williams is

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Speaker 1: going first. I thought you're gonna say Drake London because

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Speaker 1: I was like, oh my think I got a weird

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Speaker 1: sneak and suspicion it might be Drake London. I can

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Speaker 1: I think you will be one of those three. And

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Speaker 1: I don't think there's anybody else in the discussion. Uh,

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Speaker 1: I agree with you are there. I'm gonna say, I'm

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Speaker 1: gonna say Drake London. Then I'm gonna say Garrett Wilson.

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Speaker 1: Then I'm gonna say Jamison Louis Well. I kid can

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Speaker 1: fly Canny. I saw some video of him on NFL network.

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Speaker 1: I said video like, I was like, I got s

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Speaker 1: h you popped it into your VHS. NFL Network during

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Speaker 1: the show today, and I'm just like I forgot just

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00:40:18,520 --> 00:40:21,000
Speaker 1: how fast he was. We durned that quarter and went

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Speaker 1: top speed and certainly fly. I know he got hurt,

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00:40:24,200 --> 00:40:27,719
Speaker 1: but he can certainly fly. Uh. Fact or fiction, there

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00:40:27,719 --> 00:40:31,640
Speaker 1: will be a big trade this weekend involving either DK Metcalf,

882
00:40:31,760 --> 00:40:36,480
Speaker 1: Deebo Samuel or Kyler Murray and blow lit off the draft.

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00:40:37,640 --> 00:40:40,440
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say fact, but I'm gonna hit you with

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Speaker 1: a hot take. I think that the Philadelphia Eagles, and

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Speaker 1: it may not happen, but I think it will come

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00:40:45,719 --> 00:40:47,920
Speaker 1: out that the Eagles are going to do everything they

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00:40:47,960 --> 00:40:51,640
Speaker 1: can to land either Kyler Murray or Lamar Jackson by

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Speaker 1: the end of this draft. You know, I don't know

889
00:40:56,440 --> 00:40:59,280
Speaker 1: anybody in that regard something I don't know anything about

890
00:40:59,280 --> 00:41:01,520
Speaker 1: say those things. Well, listen, they haven't come to agreement

891
00:41:01,520 --> 00:41:03,919
Speaker 1: on the extension, right, so like every day that goes

892
00:41:04,000 --> 00:41:06,520
Speaker 1: by and they have to be honest with themselves. I

893
00:41:06,560 --> 00:41:09,000
Speaker 1: do think there's some evaluation that needs to happen in

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Speaker 1: the a f C. When you've got Mahomes, Alan Herbert Russ,

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00:41:12,840 --> 00:41:16,680
Speaker 1: DeShawn Watson, Burrow, does Lamar Jackson? Can he make a

896
00:41:16,719 --> 00:41:19,799
Speaker 1: playoff run against quarterbacks like that when you feel like

897
00:41:19,880 --> 00:41:22,480
Speaker 1: their offense has to play a very particular style of football.

898
00:41:23,560 --> 00:41:26,279
Speaker 1: They're telling me to break you know something, You've been

899
00:41:26,280 --> 00:41:29,240
Speaker 1: talking to somebody, talking to anybody. You spoke to somebody.

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00:41:29,239 --> 00:41:30,719
Speaker 1: All right. That was the end of it. That's the

901
00:41:30,800 --> 00:41:32,880
Speaker 1: end of around the league. I can't wait for the

902
00:41:32,960 --> 00:41:37,520
Speaker 1: draft now. The just a hunch the Eagles might go

903
00:41:37,560 --> 00:41:40,720
Speaker 1: after Kyler Murray of all people. Okay, yeah, just a hunch.

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00:41:42,920 --> 00:41:45,080
Speaker 1: That's just because it's the way they operate. They have

905
00:41:45,239 --> 00:41:47,600
Speaker 1: two in this draft, two ones in the next draft.

906
00:41:47,600 --> 00:41:50,560
Speaker 1: And how he roseman his quarterback aggressive. It makes sense.

907
00:41:50,800 --> 00:41:52,200
Speaker 1: And if you're gonna make a move, make a move

908
00:41:52,239 --> 00:41:54,520
Speaker 1: in the NFC because the top two quarterbacks there might

909
00:41:54,520 --> 00:41:57,319
Speaker 1: not be around for that long. Just woke up that way,

910
00:41:57,360 --> 00:41:59,520
Speaker 1: it felt that way. Huh. Have might not been saying

911
00:41:59,520 --> 00:42:02,240
Speaker 1: this for a while. I'll seek the intuition that he has. Awestly,

912
00:42:02,280 --> 00:42:04,040
Speaker 1: I didn't hear him before, have been saying for a while.

913
00:42:04,080 --> 00:42:07,520
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, Jimmy, I didn't realize that. Okay, you woke

914
00:42:07,600 --> 00:42:09,880
Speaker 1: up three months ago and just felt that way. All right.

915
00:42:09,960 --> 00:42:12,759
Speaker 1: Coming up next, we preview what's coming up during the

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Speaker 1: NFL Draft. That's right, It's Thursday live from Las Vegas,

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Speaker 1: and we will have your coverage right here. It is

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Speaker 1: the Cleveland Browns Draft Preview Show presented by your friends

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Speaker 1: the University Hospitals Cleveland Browns Radio Network. Here again, Ken

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00:42:45,600 --> 00:42:50,880
Speaker 1: Carmen and Nathan Sigura. It all starts Thursday night, eight

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Speaker 1: pm and we go till midnight because it's the first

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Speaker 1: round of the NFL Draft. Myself, Nathan's girl Gerad Cherry

928
00:42:57,360 --> 00:42:59,040
Speaker 1: will be on with us. There could be so many

929
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Speaker 1: different surprises. I apologize to Nathan. I did not know

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Speaker 1: you brought up that theory. A couple of months ago.

931
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Speaker 1: I would say, and that everything feels very odd there,

932
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Speaker 1: and that the Eagles are a team, that they are

933
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Speaker 1: quarterback aggressive always. It just makes a lot of credit you.

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Speaker 1: I'm talking about that tomorrow on the fan. I just

935
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Speaker 1: want to I want to bandy about that because by

936
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Speaker 1: about it, people think about it. I think Lamar has

937
00:43:18,600 --> 00:43:20,400
Speaker 1: a world of talent. I think they got stud I

938
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Speaker 1: was the m v P of the league. They got

939
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Speaker 1: snake bitten by injury. I'm not a big a fan

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Speaker 1: as big a fan of Kyler. Murray has a lot

941
00:43:25,600 --> 00:43:28,719
Speaker 1: of other people that really, Okay, Chase, for a second,

942
00:43:28,760 --> 00:43:31,680
Speaker 1: I thought you were gonna surely you jest And I know, alright,

943
00:43:32,480 --> 00:43:34,480
Speaker 1: it feels like there's a little baggage that would come

944
00:43:34,480 --> 00:43:37,080
Speaker 1: with him. Can be a little petulant, maybe very talented,

945
00:43:37,120 --> 00:43:39,400
Speaker 1: but it also it's second halfs are just never as

946
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Speaker 1: good as first half. And now that may be on Cliff,

947
00:43:41,440 --> 00:43:43,279
Speaker 1: but that may be on Kyler. I don't know. He's

948
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Speaker 1: I mean, you can't stay in the pocket and you

949
00:43:46,480 --> 00:43:49,319
Speaker 1: get halfway through the season and attrition starts to take

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00:43:49,360 --> 00:43:52,080
Speaker 1: over to the last two years. Not our problem, No,

951
00:43:52,239 --> 00:43:54,759
Speaker 1: not our problem. We will it will be well. No,

952
00:43:55,640 --> 00:43:57,560
Speaker 1: was not our problem. He's not yet because we don't

953
00:43:57,600 --> 00:43:59,480
Speaker 1: have a draft pick because we already made a big train.

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Speaker 1: But Tuesday or a Friday night night to seven pm

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Speaker 1: to midnight, myself Nathan Zigura pick forty four. Will it

956
00:44:07,800 --> 00:44:09,400
Speaker 1: still be at forty four, will they trade up? You're

957
00:44:09,400 --> 00:44:11,000
Speaker 1: gonna have to find out. You have to listen to

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Speaker 1: live draft coverage. That's throughout the weekend, folks Saturday, you

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Speaker 1: can find out right here on the three. It's right

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00:44:16,920 --> 00:44:19,480
Speaker 1: here noon to three Nathan and Gerard. And then we'll

961
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Speaker 1: have the brow the Browns Draft Review Show coming up

962
00:44:22,360 --> 00:44:24,959
Speaker 1: next Monday, May second. We'll go over all the picks,

963
00:44:25,000 --> 00:44:27,200
Speaker 1: all the macin nations and see just how much better

964
00:44:27,200 --> 00:44:29,239
Speaker 1: the Browns got. If it's Andrew Bury in charge and

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Speaker 1: it is, I be the Bronze got even better. A

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Speaker 1: big thanks to everybody. Jason Gibbs Are, executive producer Andy

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Speaker 1: Roth or technical producers Meredith Kane and Aromalden. Four, Nathan Scirl,

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Speaker 1: I'm Ken Carmen. Thank you for listening to the University

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Speaker 1: Hospitals Cleveland Browns Radio Network. Thanks for listening to the

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