1 00:00:03,320 --> 00:00:06,480 Speaker 1: Welcome to the drive. I am Dale Lolli. He is 2 00:00:07,160 --> 00:00:09,840 Speaker 1: the Matt Williamson and uh well Matt. We haven't done 3 00:00:09,840 --> 00:00:11,280 Speaker 1: a show since Monday. 4 00:00:11,280 --> 00:00:13,360 Speaker 2: Which seems like an eternity in free agent years. 5 00:00:13,600 --> 00:00:16,360 Speaker 1: You know, probably should do shows every day this week. 6 00:00:16,400 --> 00:00:19,520 Speaker 2: We probably should. There's so much around the league that 7 00:00:19,560 --> 00:00:22,000 Speaker 2: we haven't even touched on yet. Yea, even around the 8 00:00:22,000 --> 00:00:25,119 Speaker 2: division we haven't touched on that. You know. Obviously a 9 00:00:25,120 --> 00:00:27,120 Speaker 2: two day stretch, there's a lot of Steeler news first 10 00:00:27,120 --> 00:00:27,560 Speaker 2: and foremost. 11 00:00:27,640 --> 00:00:29,479 Speaker 1: Yeah, right, but that's not our call. We just do 12 00:00:29,520 --> 00:00:29,960 Speaker 1: what we're told. 13 00:00:30,080 --> 00:00:30,440 Speaker 2: There we go. 14 00:00:31,160 --> 00:00:36,080 Speaker 1: So after Monday show, Yes, on Tuesday, we get the 15 00:00:36,080 --> 00:00:41,080 Speaker 1: word that these Steelers have maybe there's reports out there 16 00:00:41,080 --> 00:00:42,800 Speaker 1: that they have signed Patrick Queen. 17 00:00:43,280 --> 00:00:43,480 Speaker 2: Yes. 18 00:00:44,479 --> 00:00:47,159 Speaker 1: And by the way, happy happy, happy new leg here. 19 00:00:47,200 --> 00:00:53,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, we should be blowing the ball. Yeah, there you go, kiss, 20 00:00:53,760 --> 00:00:56,639 Speaker 2: kiss your your spouse, ball drop, do a dance and 21 00:00:56,920 --> 00:00:58,920 Speaker 2: have some champagne. We should have brought about a champagne. 22 00:00:58,920 --> 00:01:01,000 Speaker 2: We should have brought new league your four o'clock. There 23 00:01:01,040 --> 00:01:03,240 Speaker 2: we go, usual die cook here, you take a coffee. 24 00:01:03,320 --> 00:01:06,080 Speaker 2: It's about to say not the same, but yeah, things 25 00:01:06,080 --> 00:01:09,000 Speaker 2: are official soon, you know, like all these teams will 26 00:01:09,000 --> 00:01:11,760 Speaker 2: give us official word in the coming hours. I would say, 27 00:01:11,840 --> 00:01:13,559 Speaker 2: right exactly how that works. 28 00:01:13,760 --> 00:01:16,319 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean they got to start filing paperwork at 29 00:01:16,319 --> 00:01:19,360 Speaker 1: this point. And this is why Mike Williams was released 30 00:01:19,360 --> 00:01:23,600 Speaker 1: earlier today. Everybody has to be under the salary cap. 31 00:01:23,720 --> 00:01:25,479 Speaker 1: They were as of four o'clock today. 32 00:01:25,800 --> 00:01:27,960 Speaker 2: Chargers were a disaster. I mean there was a couple 33 00:01:28,080 --> 00:01:30,120 Speaker 2: like the Ravens were like half a million under. They 34 00:01:30,200 --> 00:01:33,039 Speaker 2: just restructured Stanley and Boom, they're fine. They were twenty 35 00:01:33,080 --> 00:01:35,000 Speaker 2: five million under this morning. 36 00:01:35,200 --> 00:01:39,440 Speaker 1: So the Chargers still they've made some agreements. They've come 37 00:01:39,440 --> 00:01:42,600 Speaker 1: to agreements with some players. Yes, the Mike Williams deal 38 00:01:42,680 --> 00:01:45,680 Speaker 1: only got them to the cap level. Oh yeah, they're 39 00:01:45,680 --> 00:01:48,480 Speaker 1: still actually signing the guys that they've agreed to terms with. 40 00:01:48,520 --> 00:01:50,680 Speaker 1: They're going to have to make additional moves. 41 00:01:50,360 --> 00:01:52,040 Speaker 2: Right, Like Bosa and Alan are not out of the 42 00:01:52,040 --> 00:01:54,720 Speaker 2: woods yet. I guess they restructured Mac apparently in a 43 00:01:54,800 --> 00:01:56,760 Speaker 2: massive way, because he was like a forty million dollar 44 00:01:56,880 --> 00:01:58,840 Speaker 2: cap hit. You don't know the details of that. He 45 00:01:58,880 --> 00:02:01,080 Speaker 2: just sees restructures at this point, but you can look 46 00:02:01,120 --> 00:02:03,360 Speaker 2: into it, you know, coming up here. So No, Mike 47 00:02:03,400 --> 00:02:06,080 Speaker 2: Williams looks like he's on the part of the free 48 00:02:06,120 --> 00:02:07,200 Speaker 2: agent parade here too. 49 00:02:07,440 --> 00:02:13,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, but the Steelers have reportedly signed Patrick Queen. They have, 50 00:02:13,680 --> 00:02:19,840 Speaker 1: and then last night traded yeah, reportedly, you know, Deontae 51 00:02:19,960 --> 00:02:24,440 Speaker 1: Johnson and a twenty twenty for seventh round draft pick 52 00:02:26,280 --> 00:02:30,240 Speaker 1: to the Carolina Panthers for Dante Jackson, cornerback and a 53 00:02:30,520 --> 00:02:33,239 Speaker 1: sixth round twenty twenty four draft pick. 54 00:02:33,320 --> 00:02:35,640 Speaker 2: First off, I got probably twelve tweets going, that's a 55 00:02:35,680 --> 00:02:38,080 Speaker 2: Matt and Dale move in the mock draft. Dump that 56 00:02:38,200 --> 00:02:40,720 Speaker 2: seventh rounder and get up there and better radio. And 57 00:02:40,760 --> 00:02:43,280 Speaker 2: I'm like, yeah, it is seventy picks that they picked, 58 00:02:43,320 --> 00:02:43,840 Speaker 2: a big jump. 59 00:02:43,880 --> 00:02:46,720 Speaker 1: I mean it's basically two they moved up two rounds essentially. 60 00:02:46,840 --> 00:02:49,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean mid to late seventh up to early 61 00:02:49,480 --> 00:02:50,120 Speaker 2: early five. 62 00:02:50,320 --> 00:02:50,480 Speaker 1: Yeah. 63 00:02:50,520 --> 00:02:53,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean Panthers picks terrible. And that's not nothing, 64 00:02:53,880 --> 00:02:56,760 Speaker 2: by the way, I mean, especially this year, because the 65 00:02:56,800 --> 00:02:59,000 Speaker 2: back of the draft is so bad. I mean, there's 66 00:02:59,240 --> 00:03:03,560 Speaker 2: very few juniors that declared that that seventh round pick 67 00:03:03,639 --> 00:03:06,080 Speaker 2: is worth less than it usually is. And I still 68 00:03:06,080 --> 00:03:08,480 Speaker 2: think the fifth neighborhood or where they moved up to, 69 00:03:08,639 --> 00:03:12,120 Speaker 2: is still pretty rich, you know, So that's almost like 70 00:03:12,200 --> 00:03:16,200 Speaker 2: adding one more pick, you know, and one more reasonable pick, 71 00:03:16,240 --> 00:03:17,079 Speaker 2: So that's not nothing. 72 00:03:17,600 --> 00:03:22,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, but they've created a hole at wide receiver. If 73 00:03:22,080 --> 00:03:24,640 Speaker 1: you look at what they finished the season with at 74 00:03:24,680 --> 00:03:27,639 Speaker 1: wide receiver last year. The only guys they have back 75 00:03:27,720 --> 00:03:31,240 Speaker 1: right now are Calvin Austen. 76 00:03:31,600 --> 00:03:33,240 Speaker 2: And George and George Pickens. 77 00:03:33,560 --> 00:03:37,720 Speaker 1: That's its five, the five that you basically played most 78 00:03:37,720 --> 00:03:38,600 Speaker 1: of last season with. 79 00:03:38,800 --> 00:03:41,080 Speaker 2: Right exactly. And some teams keep six, and you know, 80 00:03:41,120 --> 00:03:45,240 Speaker 2: obviously some teams keep seven, just keep seven. So to me, 81 00:03:45,400 --> 00:03:49,080 Speaker 2: there's two gaping holes at receiver now. And even if 82 00:03:49,120 --> 00:03:51,360 Speaker 2: Allen Robinson was back, I think they needed a third, 83 00:03:51,520 --> 00:03:54,160 Speaker 2: if and Deantay was back, you know, so I think 84 00:03:54,200 --> 00:03:57,000 Speaker 2: you need your two and your three. Now, there's a 85 00:03:57,000 --> 00:04:01,440 Speaker 2: lot of options. I do that they'll have two under 86 00:04:01,640 --> 00:04:04,360 Speaker 2: contract if we get together a week from now. You know, 87 00:04:04,400 --> 00:04:07,520 Speaker 2: I'm sure something will happen, probably quite soon because of 88 00:04:07,560 --> 00:04:11,240 Speaker 2: the not desperate, because I just think that they had 89 00:04:11,280 --> 00:04:13,360 Speaker 2: a part two in mind of this trade. When we 90 00:04:13,440 --> 00:04:15,040 Speaker 2: do this and then then we're going to do part two, 91 00:04:15,040 --> 00:04:16,560 Speaker 2: which I don't know what it is, but I have 92 00:04:16,640 --> 00:04:20,560 Speaker 2: some thoughts on it, you know, some suggestions or whatever. 93 00:04:21,560 --> 00:04:23,200 Speaker 2: They did pick up a little bit of cap space 94 00:04:23,240 --> 00:04:25,320 Speaker 2: in the move, as well, and I think they can 95 00:04:25,360 --> 00:04:29,520 Speaker 2: pick up more shuffling around Jackson's money a little bit. 96 00:04:31,000 --> 00:04:33,680 Speaker 2: I don't think they eliminate their done at corner though, 97 00:04:33,760 --> 00:04:34,040 Speaker 2: you know. 98 00:04:34,040 --> 00:04:36,279 Speaker 1: Like no, no, they still have Yeah. 99 00:04:37,040 --> 00:04:41,320 Speaker 2: So I felt like the hole they created on paper 100 00:04:41,360 --> 00:04:44,840 Speaker 2: in the depth chart by trading Johnson was greater than 101 00:04:44,880 --> 00:04:47,000 Speaker 2: the hole they filled with Jackson. 102 00:04:47,120 --> 00:04:48,440 Speaker 1: But there are more moves. 103 00:04:49,400 --> 00:04:51,520 Speaker 2: They're not done. They're not done at all, right, right, 104 00:04:52,000 --> 00:04:53,880 Speaker 2: so there's gonna be. They have a lot of cap space. 105 00:04:54,480 --> 00:04:56,440 Speaker 2: And I think what this comes down to to me 106 00:04:57,600 --> 00:05:00,760 Speaker 2: is I would rather be shopping in the wider receiver market, 107 00:05:00,880 --> 00:05:03,960 Speaker 2: even if it's for two of them, then the cornerback 108 00:05:04,080 --> 00:05:06,480 Speaker 2: market for one and a half of them, you know 109 00:05:06,520 --> 00:05:10,440 Speaker 2: what I mean? And basically what that comes down to, Yes, 110 00:05:10,480 --> 00:05:12,359 Speaker 2: it's a good corner draft, and I think the Steelers 111 00:05:12,400 --> 00:05:14,360 Speaker 2: will still draft one. I don't think they will spend 112 00:05:14,440 --> 00:05:18,239 Speaker 2: any more money on a corner and who because that's 113 00:05:18,320 --> 00:05:22,440 Speaker 2: an awful group right now, I mean the corner. Maybe 114 00:05:22,440 --> 00:05:23,280 Speaker 2: they'll get somebody at. 115 00:05:23,240 --> 00:05:27,120 Speaker 1: Camp or yeah, one of the groups coming in Jalen Johnson. Yeah, 116 00:05:27,200 --> 00:05:30,039 Speaker 1: he knew he was never made, never made it, lugarious sneak. 117 00:05:30,480 --> 00:05:33,680 Speaker 1: It's gonna cost you a jillion dollars in draft picks, right, 118 00:05:34,040 --> 00:05:37,799 Speaker 1: not gonna happen. Kendall Fuller is still out there, but still. 119 00:05:37,600 --> 00:05:39,839 Speaker 2: Out there, but he's older, and I don't think he's special, 120 00:05:39,880 --> 00:05:41,920 Speaker 2: and he's probably getting more than he should get to 121 00:05:41,920 --> 00:05:42,760 Speaker 2: begin with two. 122 00:05:42,839 --> 00:05:48,240 Speaker 1: A Woozy as already signed. Stefan Gilmour again thirty three 123 00:05:48,320 --> 00:05:49,880 Speaker 1: years old. Yeah, I don't want to shop it out. 124 00:05:49,960 --> 00:05:51,679 Speaker 2: He kind of just did that last year with Peterson 125 00:05:51,720 --> 00:05:55,520 Speaker 2: Steven Nelson. He's thirty two coming back and he's older, right, 126 00:05:55,680 --> 00:05:57,000 Speaker 2: he's older. None of those names. 127 00:05:57,000 --> 00:05:59,120 Speaker 1: I like, he's number six on them. This is looking 128 00:05:59,120 --> 00:06:01,680 Speaker 1: at pro football folks. He's not six on the list. 129 00:06:01,560 --> 00:06:03,440 Speaker 2: And that's before free is even opened. 130 00:06:03,760 --> 00:06:05,479 Speaker 1: Kenny Moore I would be interested in, but he's a 131 00:06:05,520 --> 00:06:07,680 Speaker 1: slot signed and he's twenty nine. 132 00:06:07,720 --> 00:06:09,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I don't know if he was ever leaving 133 00:06:09,200 --> 00:06:09,640 Speaker 2: into either. 134 00:06:10,680 --> 00:06:13,280 Speaker 1: You're interested in the Dori Jackson because he's eighth on this. 135 00:06:13,200 --> 00:06:15,880 Speaker 2: List, right, it's a terrible place to shop. Yeah. 136 00:06:15,960 --> 00:06:19,280 Speaker 1: Again, there's Sean Nixon is nine, he's a return guy. 137 00:06:19,400 --> 00:06:22,200 Speaker 2: I mean there's ten receivers that I would take over 138 00:06:22,279 --> 00:06:23,880 Speaker 2: those guys. Yeah, you know what I mean. I mean, 139 00:06:23,920 --> 00:06:26,320 Speaker 2: not gonna love all of them. I mean Odell's one 140 00:06:26,360 --> 00:06:28,039 Speaker 2: of them. I mean I thought he was. We said 141 00:06:28,040 --> 00:06:30,800 Speaker 2: this a thousand times that he was, you know, signed 142 00:06:30,800 --> 00:06:32,920 Speaker 2: to too much money a year ago. But at the 143 00:06:32,960 --> 00:06:34,680 Speaker 2: right price, I can bring him in. I'm not big 144 00:06:34,720 --> 00:06:35,919 Speaker 2: on Tyler Boyd. 145 00:06:35,640 --> 00:06:39,080 Speaker 1: You've got no interest whatsoever. And Odell Beckham, I agree 146 00:06:39,120 --> 00:06:41,200 Speaker 1: with you, he's like the laster on my list on 147 00:06:41,279 --> 00:06:43,760 Speaker 1: a distraction. Distraction. 148 00:06:44,680 --> 00:06:49,000 Speaker 2: But again, there's ten receivers out there that'll be starters 149 00:06:49,080 --> 00:06:52,600 Speaker 2: or borderline starters that aren't insanely expensive, and you can 150 00:06:52,640 --> 00:06:54,479 Speaker 2: just a better market the shop and you can overdrive 151 00:06:54,520 --> 00:06:57,279 Speaker 2: this just draft is ridiculously deep in some of those guys. 152 00:06:57,400 --> 00:06:59,120 Speaker 2: You know, I still think they'll draft a receiver and 153 00:06:59,200 --> 00:07:01,640 Speaker 2: a corner. Yeah, both pretty high probably. 154 00:07:01,279 --> 00:07:04,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, just a matter of how you how those dominoes fall. Now, 155 00:07:04,800 --> 00:07:08,960 Speaker 1: the one thing that has happened here in the in 156 00:07:09,000 --> 00:07:13,360 Speaker 1: the last few days is that unless you're ready to 157 00:07:13,400 --> 00:07:17,600 Speaker 1: get into the market for Connor Williams, who is hurt, 158 00:07:17,960 --> 00:07:19,880 Speaker 1: and it's probably going to be a little more expensive 159 00:07:19,880 --> 00:07:21,360 Speaker 1: than what you want to pay for somebody who's hurt, 160 00:07:22,200 --> 00:07:23,160 Speaker 1: you probably draft him. 161 00:07:23,200 --> 00:07:27,960 Speaker 2: One centers got scooped up really quick and guards got 162 00:07:27,960 --> 00:07:29,520 Speaker 2: overpaid extremely quick. 163 00:07:29,600 --> 00:07:31,080 Speaker 1: I would argue that the centers did too. 164 00:07:31,160 --> 00:07:33,080 Speaker 2: I agree, yeah, agree, I was going to love them 165 00:07:33,080 --> 00:07:36,520 Speaker 2: together as this interior line outkicked their coverage in terms 166 00:07:36,560 --> 00:07:39,280 Speaker 2: of what they're making and with all the running back moves, 167 00:07:39,320 --> 00:07:42,320 Speaker 2: I think the league is telling us running games still 168 00:07:42,360 --> 00:07:44,320 Speaker 2: matter if you're going to play a ton of too 169 00:07:44,440 --> 00:07:48,000 Speaker 2: high and take away the big plays. Well, I mean, 170 00:07:48,080 --> 00:07:50,200 Speaker 2: everyone talks about what a geniu Sean McVay is. I 171 00:07:50,240 --> 00:07:52,760 Speaker 2: think he's a great offensive mind, but he just spent 172 00:07:53,000 --> 00:07:55,720 Speaker 2: huge money on two guards, even though he had a 173 00:07:55,720 --> 00:07:58,040 Speaker 2: really good young guard and Steve Avilia, who they're going 174 00:07:58,080 --> 00:08:01,960 Speaker 2: to move into center, and now they have like eleven 175 00:08:02,040 --> 00:08:04,920 Speaker 2: hundred pounds of interior o line and they're just gonna 176 00:08:04,960 --> 00:08:06,680 Speaker 2: mash your face when you go too high. 177 00:08:06,520 --> 00:08:09,600 Speaker 1: You know. Wait, I heard some some bozos out there, 178 00:08:09,960 --> 00:08:13,320 Speaker 1: and I'm na call them bozos in the Pittsburgh media 179 00:08:13,400 --> 00:08:17,160 Speaker 1: saying you you you know you're the Steelers are are 180 00:08:17,200 --> 00:08:20,480 Speaker 1: setting themselves up to play football like it's it's two 181 00:08:20,480 --> 00:08:23,440 Speaker 1: thousand and you know and two because they went out 182 00:08:23,440 --> 00:08:25,720 Speaker 1: and paid a bunch of money for an inside lineback. 183 00:08:25,520 --> 00:08:28,000 Speaker 2: Right right right reportedly reported. 184 00:08:28,160 --> 00:08:30,000 Speaker 1: You know they they they're you know they're gonna try 185 00:08:30,040 --> 00:08:32,600 Speaker 1: to lean on their running game. This isn't two thousand 186 00:08:32,640 --> 00:08:35,839 Speaker 1: and two, Yeah it is. This is what the league 187 00:08:35,880 --> 00:08:38,120 Speaker 1: is morphing back into. Yes, it's nice to be able 188 00:08:38,120 --> 00:08:40,480 Speaker 1: to throw the football if you have Patrick Mahomes, yeah, 189 00:08:40,520 --> 00:08:42,040 Speaker 1: oh the league not everybody does. 190 00:08:42,160 --> 00:08:44,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean there's a lot of zigging and zagging 191 00:08:44,040 --> 00:08:46,560 Speaker 2: throughout the league all through history. If everyone's taking away 192 00:08:46,559 --> 00:08:48,920 Speaker 2: the big play and playing nickel and dime, well, then 193 00:08:49,480 --> 00:08:53,640 Speaker 2: the ball. And also to your point, if you're gonna 194 00:08:53,640 --> 00:08:56,559 Speaker 2: start sixty nine quarterbacks a year, I need to make 195 00:08:56,600 --> 00:09:00,439 Speaker 2: life easier on quarterback number sixty through sixty nine alone. 196 00:09:00,679 --> 00:09:02,680 Speaker 2: You know twenty through sixty. 197 00:09:02,400 --> 00:09:05,640 Speaker 1: Nine well, and you know, if you have big play receivers, 198 00:09:06,400 --> 00:09:09,120 Speaker 1: which the two receivers that the Steelers still have on 199 00:09:09,160 --> 00:09:10,360 Speaker 1: their roster, oh. 200 00:09:10,280 --> 00:09:11,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, they're a throwball out field. 201 00:09:11,600 --> 00:09:13,680 Speaker 1: We qualify as big play receivers, no doubt. 202 00:09:13,760 --> 00:09:16,360 Speaker 2: And their their quarterbacks are very deep, very good depasser. 203 00:09:16,960 --> 00:09:20,280 Speaker 1: If you can run the football, you make you make 204 00:09:20,440 --> 00:09:23,040 Speaker 1: defenses make a choice. Are you gonna let them run 205 00:09:23,080 --> 00:09:24,880 Speaker 1: the football? Are you gonna you're gonna give up the 206 00:09:24,960 --> 00:09:26,640 Speaker 1: deep play to George Pickens? 207 00:09:26,840 --> 00:09:28,679 Speaker 2: And I don't know who you're referring to, Nor do 208 00:09:28,760 --> 00:09:32,199 Speaker 2: I care, but signing an off the ball linebacker to 209 00:09:32,280 --> 00:09:35,200 Speaker 2: big money is anything but a nineteen eighty five move. 210 00:09:35,320 --> 00:09:38,199 Speaker 2: I mean, they do, they cover, They're hard to find. 211 00:09:38,360 --> 00:09:41,480 Speaker 2: There's a shortage of them every down. Guys that cover space, 212 00:09:42,000 --> 00:09:44,880 Speaker 2: that do all the things the Queen does. There aren't 213 00:09:44,880 --> 00:09:46,640 Speaker 2: many of them on the planet. I mean it's that 214 00:09:46,679 --> 00:09:48,000 Speaker 2: they've been looking for that guy since his. 215 00:09:48,120 --> 00:09:50,679 Speaker 1: Ear Now, to be fair, I mean he did get 216 00:09:50,760 --> 00:09:55,080 Speaker 1: better last year after they made the trade. 217 00:09:56,360 --> 00:09:58,360 Speaker 2: Year and a half now, yeah, they trade for him 218 00:09:58,400 --> 00:09:59,520 Speaker 2: midway through to the two thousand. 219 00:09:59,600 --> 00:10:02,640 Speaker 1: Also, so I looked this up again. He's twenty four 220 00:10:02,760 --> 00:10:03,160 Speaker 1: years old. 221 00:10:03,280 --> 00:10:04,360 Speaker 2: He's not even twenty five. 222 00:10:05,480 --> 00:10:09,200 Speaker 1: He's the same age that Ryan like. So, Ryan Shazier 223 00:10:09,240 --> 00:10:12,520 Speaker 1: is a twenty four year old made his first Pro Bowl. Okay, 224 00:10:13,040 --> 00:10:15,079 Speaker 1: Patrick Queen is a twenty four year old made his 225 00:10:15,160 --> 00:10:17,360 Speaker 1: first Pro Bowl. Here's a second team All Pro last year, 226 00:10:17,480 --> 00:10:19,680 Speaker 1: second team All Pro. Yeah, they're both six to one, 227 00:10:20,160 --> 00:10:22,920 Speaker 1: they're both two hundred and thirty pounds, tested about the same, 228 00:10:22,960 --> 00:10:25,400 Speaker 1: they tested about the same first round picks, right right. 229 00:10:26,679 --> 00:10:29,800 Speaker 1: I can remember people in Shay's ears. Definitely his second year, 230 00:10:29,880 --> 00:10:31,800 Speaker 1: maybe not so much his first year because he made 231 00:10:31,840 --> 00:10:34,520 Speaker 1: some splash plays. Oh yeah, second year was kind of like, oh, 232 00:10:34,600 --> 00:10:37,000 Speaker 1: he didn't take that big step forward that everybody thought. 233 00:10:37,480 --> 00:10:39,400 Speaker 1: Third year he makes that light goes on. Yeah, the 234 00:10:39,520 --> 00:10:40,040 Speaker 1: light came on. 235 00:10:40,440 --> 00:10:42,200 Speaker 2: So maybe it's just so common at that position. 236 00:10:42,320 --> 00:10:44,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, maybe you could look at it and say, well, 237 00:10:44,360 --> 00:10:46,720 Speaker 1: ro Kwan Smith really helped him. Or he could look 238 00:10:46,720 --> 00:10:48,559 Speaker 1: at it and say, well, he's in his fifty he's 239 00:10:48,559 --> 00:10:50,280 Speaker 1: going into his fifth year in the league. Now maybe 240 00:10:50,320 --> 00:10:52,320 Speaker 1: the light has come on. Yeah, it takes time at that. 241 00:10:52,320 --> 00:10:55,199 Speaker 2: Position, especially as young as he is, you know, I 242 00:10:55,240 --> 00:10:57,640 Speaker 2: mean he's like Tremaine Edmunds young. The same thing happened 243 00:10:57,640 --> 00:10:58,280 Speaker 2: to him with the bill. 244 00:10:58,320 --> 00:11:00,120 Speaker 1: By the way, Edmunds got eighteen million. 245 00:11:00,040 --> 00:11:02,120 Speaker 2: Got eighteen and that's what I thought. I was certain 246 00:11:02,200 --> 00:11:05,400 Speaker 2: Queen would be entertain. That's why we brushed it all. 247 00:11:05,559 --> 00:11:07,079 Speaker 1: I don't know, I can't going to afford that. 248 00:11:07,400 --> 00:11:11,040 Speaker 2: No, and at this price is a totally different conversation then, 249 00:11:11,320 --> 00:11:13,199 Speaker 2: So there's two ways of looking at that. To me, 250 00:11:13,559 --> 00:11:17,600 Speaker 2: is okay, Roquan shows up. He's by the way, Roquan 251 00:11:17,679 --> 00:11:19,200 Speaker 2: was the same way his first year and a half 252 00:11:19,360 --> 00:11:21,319 Speaker 2: or so. He was all over the place too, I mean, yes, 253 00:11:21,400 --> 00:11:23,400 Speaker 2: he makes splash plays because he's the best athlete out there. 254 00:11:23,880 --> 00:11:27,559 Speaker 2: But he shows up in his prime and they pay 255 00:11:27,679 --> 00:11:30,400 Speaker 2: him great. It's a good move for the Ravens. And 256 00:11:30,840 --> 00:11:33,720 Speaker 2: coincidentally or not, Queen for that year and a half 257 00:11:33,800 --> 00:11:36,720 Speaker 2: that he played with Roquan became a second team Pro 258 00:11:36,800 --> 00:11:39,480 Speaker 2: Bowl player. Yeah. Now, I think there's two sides to it. 259 00:11:39,800 --> 00:11:42,240 Speaker 2: From what I understand, Queen will not be the green 260 00:11:42,320 --> 00:11:45,480 Speaker 2: dot guy get everyone a line type player, so they 261 00:11:45,559 --> 00:11:48,040 Speaker 2: took that away from him, and Roquan did those things. 262 00:11:48,360 --> 00:11:50,679 Speaker 2: He didn't say, hey, Patrick, you cover him, you know, 263 00:11:50,800 --> 00:11:52,679 Speaker 2: like he's a two year old. But he took that 264 00:11:52,800 --> 00:11:56,160 Speaker 2: stuff away from Roberts can do that, Hulcombe can do that, 265 00:11:56,559 --> 00:11:59,760 Speaker 2: Minka can do that. So I don't really that doesn't 266 00:11:59,800 --> 00:12:04,920 Speaker 2: work me so much. I think having Roquon there obviously helps. 267 00:12:05,640 --> 00:12:07,839 Speaker 2: I think there's a better chance that he's hitting his 268 00:12:07,920 --> 00:12:10,480 Speaker 2: stride as a player and as a human at age 269 00:12:10,520 --> 00:12:13,760 Speaker 2: twenty four or twenty five, where whether Rokwan was there 270 00:12:13,840 --> 00:12:16,880 Speaker 2: or not, because it's not I I'm not using high 271 00:12:16,880 --> 00:12:18,839 Speaker 2: Smith in a negative manner here, but it's not like 272 00:12:19,679 --> 00:12:22,040 Speaker 2: Watts on the other side getting double teams all the time. 273 00:12:22,520 --> 00:12:25,120 Speaker 2: So high Smith's going to get fewer. Yeah, they're out 274 00:12:25,120 --> 00:12:26,199 Speaker 2: their middle linebackers. 275 00:12:26,240 --> 00:12:28,400 Speaker 1: Not according to the double team stats on. 276 00:12:28,840 --> 00:12:33,280 Speaker 2: Which are so bizarre. It's not Alvin Harper to Michael Erviw, 277 00:12:33,440 --> 00:12:35,280 Speaker 2: you know where one guy's rolling coverage this way. These 278 00:12:35,280 --> 00:12:37,079 Speaker 2: are off the ball, middle of the field players. It's 279 00:12:37,120 --> 00:12:39,120 Speaker 2: not like Rokwan's taking on double teams every time. 280 00:12:39,240 --> 00:12:41,640 Speaker 1: No. One of the things that we both would have 281 00:12:41,679 --> 00:12:47,200 Speaker 1: agreed on that the Steelers needed to do defensively going 282 00:12:47,320 --> 00:12:50,080 Speaker 1: into this process was that they needed to get faster. 283 00:12:51,200 --> 00:12:52,520 Speaker 1: The two they've gotten faster. 284 00:12:52,679 --> 00:12:55,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, no doubt. Back seven, speed would been a problem, 285 00:12:56,000 --> 00:12:59,160 Speaker 2: without question. Jackson, he's a track guy. 286 00:12:59,520 --> 00:13:01,120 Speaker 1: He ran He ran a four to three to two 287 00:13:01,160 --> 00:13:03,439 Speaker 1: at the Combine, then ran a four to three one 288 00:13:03,600 --> 00:13:05,760 Speaker 1: just because he wanted to break forth. He wanted to 289 00:13:05,760 --> 00:13:06,680 Speaker 1: get into the four twos. 290 00:13:06,760 --> 00:13:07,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, thought he could do it. 291 00:13:08,040 --> 00:13:09,280 Speaker 1: And he ran a four to three to one at 292 00:13:09,440 --> 00:13:12,760 Speaker 1: LSU's pro day. Okay, there were two head coaches there 293 00:13:12,800 --> 00:13:14,440 Speaker 1: that day, Tom one. 294 00:13:14,320 --> 00:13:17,600 Speaker 2: Of them, Tomlan was one of the Okay, gotcha adds up. Now, 295 00:13:17,679 --> 00:13:19,360 Speaker 2: I know they've had interested in him for some time 296 00:13:19,480 --> 00:13:23,359 Speaker 2: and speed is not a problem. People ding him for durability. 297 00:13:24,480 --> 00:13:28,400 Speaker 2: He he had a achilles and missed all or most 298 00:13:28,440 --> 00:13:29,520 Speaker 2: of twenty twenty two. 299 00:13:30,080 --> 00:13:31,400 Speaker 1: He played I think nine games. 300 00:13:31,760 --> 00:13:32,000 Speaker 2: Okay. 301 00:13:32,280 --> 00:13:35,720 Speaker 1: He's had multiple interceptions every season except for last year. 302 00:13:35,800 --> 00:13:37,440 Speaker 2: Other than that, he's missed like two games of his career. 303 00:13:37,480 --> 00:13:39,480 Speaker 1: Because nobody threw the ball against them last year. They 304 00:13:39,520 --> 00:13:41,360 Speaker 1: gave up one hundred and seventy passing yards per game 305 00:13:41,400 --> 00:13:43,720 Speaker 1: last year, Carolina, because you were so bad, Because they 306 00:13:43,760 --> 00:13:45,520 Speaker 1: were so bad that you didn't you didn't have to 307 00:13:45,559 --> 00:13:46,920 Speaker 1: throw the ball. He could run it against him, and 308 00:13:46,920 --> 00:13:48,000 Speaker 1: they kept turning the ball over. 309 00:13:48,160 --> 00:13:51,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it makes sense. So he's an interesting player 310 00:13:51,480 --> 00:13:55,760 Speaker 2: because he's smaller. He's Originally I thought maybe he's a slot. 311 00:13:55,840 --> 00:13:57,640 Speaker 2: You know, he's one eighty. I remember him coming out 312 00:13:57,760 --> 00:13:59,360 Speaker 2: super fast. I mean, those were all the things everyone 313 00:13:59,400 --> 00:14:02,160 Speaker 2: kne about him. Ground pick, but he's like one hundred 314 00:14:02,160 --> 00:14:04,959 Speaker 2: and eighty pounds. But he's an outside corner. Maybe he 315 00:14:04,960 --> 00:14:06,880 Speaker 2: could dabble a slot, but he hasn't. I mean, he 316 00:14:07,000 --> 00:14:11,199 Speaker 2: has played very few slots in this nap or in 317 00:14:11,280 --> 00:14:14,680 Speaker 2: the slot. But they're a left right, cover three type 318 00:14:14,720 --> 00:14:17,800 Speaker 2: of team, heavy zone team. Now he's gonna have to 319 00:14:17,840 --> 00:14:19,560 Speaker 2: do more man stuff here. But he did a lot 320 00:14:19,600 --> 00:14:21,560 Speaker 2: of LSU and he did a lot early in his career. 321 00:14:21,960 --> 00:14:25,000 Speaker 2: And he's had about nine thousand systems in Carolina too, 322 00:14:25,160 --> 00:14:28,440 Speaker 2: you know, which is important. Early in his career, I 323 00:14:28,560 --> 00:14:30,760 Speaker 2: kind of looked at him more of a track guy 324 00:14:30,840 --> 00:14:34,280 Speaker 2: playing football. Now. He throws his body around a lot. 325 00:14:34,600 --> 00:14:37,040 Speaker 2: He's not a great tackler. He'll bounce off some people 326 00:14:37,080 --> 00:14:40,120 Speaker 2: and come high so often at his size, but he's 327 00:14:40,160 --> 00:14:42,800 Speaker 2: not bashful about it at all, or bashful about attacking 328 00:14:42,840 --> 00:14:45,640 Speaker 2: the ball in the air. So he's gonna play. I mean, 329 00:14:45,680 --> 00:14:48,840 Speaker 2: he's going to be, you know, in the mix without question. 330 00:14:49,440 --> 00:14:52,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, and you know it gives you a starter opposite 331 00:14:52,200 --> 00:14:53,080 Speaker 1: Joey Porter Jr. 332 00:14:54,040 --> 00:14:56,320 Speaker 2: Now you you still maybe Trice and rush blow him 333 00:14:56,360 --> 00:14:56,760 Speaker 2: out the door. 334 00:14:56,840 --> 00:14:58,440 Speaker 1: You know they could have so good. Yeah, but they 335 00:14:58,520 --> 00:14:59,960 Speaker 1: could happen, and that's what's fine. 336 00:15:00,280 --> 00:15:01,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, but you're not. 337 00:15:02,120 --> 00:15:03,920 Speaker 1: You don't have to start one of those guys. 338 00:15:04,040 --> 00:15:05,840 Speaker 2: No, No, it's a typical. You can line up and 339 00:15:05,880 --> 00:15:08,600 Speaker 2: play with him as your number two corner today, you know, right, 340 00:15:08,840 --> 00:15:10,040 Speaker 2: that adds up one hundred percent. 341 00:15:10,160 --> 00:15:13,360 Speaker 1: So what they they still need is a slot. They 342 00:15:13,480 --> 00:15:15,600 Speaker 1: have two safeties that they could line up with if 343 00:15:15,640 --> 00:15:18,200 Speaker 1: they had to. But you'd like to another d another 344 00:15:18,280 --> 00:15:22,520 Speaker 1: defensive back somewhere. You know, you probably you probably have 345 00:15:22,640 --> 00:15:25,200 Speaker 1: one more safety that you're going to add in a 346 00:15:25,280 --> 00:15:27,920 Speaker 1: slot cornerback that you're gonna add in some way, shape 347 00:15:28,000 --> 00:15:30,960 Speaker 1: or form, and then you you know you've drafted. Ideally, 348 00:15:32,320 --> 00:15:35,120 Speaker 1: the slot that they get is somebody that they draft 349 00:15:35,200 --> 00:15:37,520 Speaker 1: and they can ease him and you just say, hey, kid, 350 00:15:37,600 --> 00:15:40,480 Speaker 1: you learned to play the slot, and then eventually we're 351 00:15:40,480 --> 00:15:42,120 Speaker 1: gonna put you outside too. Yeah. 352 00:15:42,800 --> 00:15:45,040 Speaker 2: And I guess one of my next projects, and I 353 00:15:45,080 --> 00:15:47,800 Speaker 2: think you're ahead of me on this is there's some 354 00:15:48,560 --> 00:15:51,400 Speaker 2: serious of those two fourth rounds picks. Now they have 355 00:15:51,440 --> 00:15:52,359 Speaker 2: what two fifths. 356 00:15:53,440 --> 00:15:55,680 Speaker 1: Essentially, yeah, it's a six, but it's like the first 357 00:15:55,720 --> 00:15:56,560 Speaker 1: pick in the sixth round. 358 00:15:56,600 --> 00:16:00,720 Speaker 2: But anyway, I really concentrated the two fourths. There's a 359 00:16:00,840 --> 00:16:04,120 Speaker 2: handful of true slots that we haven't always jumped on 360 00:16:04,160 --> 00:16:07,680 Speaker 2: in our mocks. That are you know, the Florida State kid, 361 00:16:07,800 --> 00:16:10,359 Speaker 2: Penn State's got a dude that are a little undersized, 362 00:16:10,360 --> 00:16:11,440 Speaker 2: that are feisty. 363 00:16:11,240 --> 00:16:14,000 Speaker 1: To Georgia safeties or something like that. Yeah, yeah, are 364 00:16:14,040 --> 00:16:14,600 Speaker 1: slot guys. 365 00:16:14,720 --> 00:16:16,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, And I was gonna say that too, is the 366 00:16:16,960 --> 00:16:19,280 Speaker 2: safety you signed might be your big slot. And you 367 00:16:19,400 --> 00:16:21,120 Speaker 2: draft your little slot, you know, Like that's what the 368 00:16:21,680 --> 00:16:24,120 Speaker 2: Ravens is. Last year, Mallett was their smaller slot in 369 00:16:24,200 --> 00:16:26,760 Speaker 2: some packages. Hamilton was their big slot in some packages. 370 00:16:27,200 --> 00:16:28,600 Speaker 2: It's a good, good situation to be in. 371 00:16:29,040 --> 00:16:32,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, and you know those guys get to your point. 372 00:16:33,240 --> 00:16:35,120 Speaker 1: That's where you get those fourth, fifth round guys. 373 00:16:35,280 --> 00:16:37,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, and they're dynamite on special teams from their gunner 374 00:16:38,000 --> 00:16:41,920 Speaker 2: from day one. If they're tough and feisty one hundred 375 00:16:41,920 --> 00:16:46,000 Speaker 2: and eighty pounds five nine run four four eight that 376 00:16:46,080 --> 00:16:48,200 Speaker 2: it'll mix it up in the run game. There's five 377 00:16:48,280 --> 00:16:50,720 Speaker 2: or six of them in that neighborhood that aren't super responsible. 378 00:16:50,760 --> 00:16:53,080 Speaker 2: You'll get one of them, Yeah, especially if you upgraded 379 00:16:53,120 --> 00:16:54,760 Speaker 2: safety too, you know, if you spend money on a 380 00:16:54,760 --> 00:16:57,400 Speaker 2: safety amaton. But hey, Justin Simmons would be great. But 381 00:16:57,520 --> 00:17:00,960 Speaker 2: I mean, I'm even a black man's out there. Guys 382 00:17:01,040 --> 00:17:03,800 Speaker 2: like that quality safeties in your secondary rounds in the 383 00:17:03,840 --> 00:17:05,800 Speaker 2: show out. I don't understand that either safeties have not 384 00:17:05,920 --> 00:17:06,800 Speaker 2: been a good player up. 385 00:17:07,000 --> 00:17:11,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, maybe they all just wanted too much money, and 386 00:17:11,880 --> 00:17:14,520 Speaker 1: that's happened. As this goes on, You're like, oh, I'm 387 00:17:14,520 --> 00:17:14,840 Speaker 1: not going. 388 00:17:14,760 --> 00:17:17,359 Speaker 2: To get that kind of money, right, I mean, the 389 00:17:17,440 --> 00:17:19,639 Speaker 2: first wave is basically over. I mean it's almost bargain 390 00:17:19,720 --> 00:17:21,960 Speaker 2: been time, not bargain beIN time. But things are starting 391 00:17:21,960 --> 00:17:22,440 Speaker 2: to go on safe. 392 00:17:22,800 --> 00:17:25,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, the first markdown has come. 393 00:17:25,200 --> 00:17:27,399 Speaker 2: Yeah exactly. You know, unless you're you could get a 394 00:17:27,520 --> 00:17:31,520 Speaker 2: blackman or somebody similar. Now yeah, so I so I 395 00:17:31,560 --> 00:17:33,240 Speaker 2: think the secondary is two pieces away. 396 00:17:33,800 --> 00:17:36,879 Speaker 1: Yeah, you know. So right now as we sit here, 397 00:17:36,960 --> 00:17:38,359 Speaker 1: you have needs at wide receiver. 398 00:17:39,240 --> 00:17:40,080 Speaker 2: Two needs there. I think. 399 00:17:40,200 --> 00:17:43,000 Speaker 1: Well, that's why I said needs. Yeah, I know you 400 00:17:43,160 --> 00:17:46,000 Speaker 1: have needs in the secondary, yes, and you have a 401 00:17:46,119 --> 00:17:47,200 Speaker 1: need at center. 402 00:17:48,320 --> 00:17:48,520 Speaker 2: Yeah. 403 00:17:48,720 --> 00:17:49,720 Speaker 1: Linebacker's taken care of. 404 00:17:49,840 --> 00:17:52,000 Speaker 2: I say, you've done it, linebacker. I think the answer 405 00:17:52,160 --> 00:17:55,000 Speaker 2: is yes. I mean someone to challenge Mark Robinson the 406 00:17:55,040 --> 00:17:57,280 Speaker 2: fifth round. Maybe, I mean you're talking about it. It 407 00:17:57,280 --> 00:17:58,760 Speaker 2: would go investments, Yeah, that. 408 00:17:58,720 --> 00:18:00,600 Speaker 1: Would you know again, that's that's what the beauty of 409 00:18:00,720 --> 00:18:04,000 Speaker 1: having that pick move up seventy spots. Okay, I can 410 00:18:04,080 --> 00:18:07,240 Speaker 1: take I can take the best player still on my board. 411 00:18:07,600 --> 00:18:09,520 Speaker 1: Maybe I had a third round grade on this guy 412 00:18:09,560 --> 00:18:11,080 Speaker 1: and he's still available in the sixth I'll just. 413 00:18:11,080 --> 00:18:12,840 Speaker 2: Take happen to be a linebacker or somebody in the 414 00:18:12,920 --> 00:18:16,080 Speaker 2: secondary or the multiple positions anywhere. Really, I mean, it's 415 00:18:16,080 --> 00:18:17,960 Speaker 2: not gonna be a punter now, yeah, you know, or 416 00:18:18,080 --> 00:18:20,199 Speaker 2: a reach, a quarterback that might not probably doesn't make 417 00:18:20,200 --> 00:18:22,720 Speaker 2: the team, or things of that nature. No, that is 418 00:18:22,800 --> 00:18:24,800 Speaker 2: a big deal. I mean our mark drafts will be 419 00:18:24,880 --> 00:18:27,160 Speaker 2: better because of it. Yeah, we don't have to trade 420 00:18:27,160 --> 00:18:31,600 Speaker 2: that last PI that's gone. I guess my only concern 421 00:18:31,760 --> 00:18:33,480 Speaker 2: is just how when do you get hold him back, 422 00:18:33,520 --> 00:18:35,200 Speaker 2: if at all? You know, because if you knew that 423 00:18:35,400 --> 00:18:37,560 Speaker 2: was but it's sort of on the horizon. Let's say 424 00:18:37,600 --> 00:18:40,640 Speaker 2: he starts camp on the pup, which I'm expecting, yeah, 425 00:18:40,640 --> 00:18:41,800 Speaker 2: I think, and he misses. 426 00:18:41,520 --> 00:18:43,280 Speaker 1: The first six weeks. Just I'm just throwing aside. I 427 00:18:43,280 --> 00:18:46,480 Speaker 1: don't know anything nobody, But let's say misses the first 428 00:18:46,520 --> 00:18:49,320 Speaker 1: six weeks of the season and then he comes back. 429 00:18:49,960 --> 00:18:53,120 Speaker 1: That's the thing, like, you you've got two starter capable 430 00:18:53,200 --> 00:18:56,640 Speaker 1: guys there. Yeah, Now, I mean once you ran out 431 00:18:56,640 --> 00:18:58,840 Speaker 1: there last year for the second half of the season 432 00:18:58,880 --> 00:19:01,680 Speaker 1: when it was Robert anybody, they pulled off the couch 433 00:19:01,840 --> 00:19:02,200 Speaker 1: by far. 434 00:19:02,880 --> 00:19:05,000 Speaker 2: Now it's a strength. Now it's a strength band aid. 435 00:19:05,080 --> 00:19:07,280 Speaker 1: And then you add Holcomb back to them into that mix. 436 00:19:08,000 --> 00:19:08,919 Speaker 1: Now you got something. 437 00:19:09,080 --> 00:19:10,640 Speaker 2: And even if he is going to miss six weeks 438 00:19:10,720 --> 00:19:13,119 Speaker 2: or so, you could sign someone just like Alexander for 439 00:19:13,240 --> 00:19:15,280 Speaker 2: a million a year in camp, you know, I mean 440 00:19:15,640 --> 00:19:18,560 Speaker 2: after the first preseason game. I mean there's those guys 441 00:19:18,600 --> 00:19:19,400 Speaker 2: are always out there. 442 00:19:19,440 --> 00:19:22,760 Speaker 1: I mean, so yeah, that becomes a strength now, you know, 443 00:19:22,800 --> 00:19:26,119 Speaker 1: if you do the same thing at safety. Yeah, that 444 00:19:26,240 --> 00:19:28,400 Speaker 1: because like if you get a black man or somebody 445 00:19:28,480 --> 00:19:32,359 Speaker 1: like that, I mean, you're your defense up the middle is. 446 00:19:33,080 --> 00:19:35,240 Speaker 2: Night and day different than it used to be, way better. 447 00:19:35,359 --> 00:19:38,040 Speaker 2: It's just it's a positive not a negative. Yeah, I 448 00:19:38,119 --> 00:19:40,240 Speaker 2: mean it used to be Minka and the Pips and you. 449 00:19:40,480 --> 00:19:42,919 Speaker 1: Yeah, and you've got now a cornerback who again, if 450 00:19:43,000 --> 00:19:45,800 Speaker 1: if he if he had been a free agent, that's 451 00:19:45,800 --> 00:19:50,760 Speaker 1: a good point, is probably already gone. He's probably already signed. 452 00:19:50,560 --> 00:19:52,240 Speaker 2: With He's like in the ilusier level. 453 00:19:52,359 --> 00:19:54,199 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, and he got it. He got eight 454 00:19:54,280 --> 00:19:55,920 Speaker 1: or nine million, and you don't get him. 455 00:19:56,160 --> 00:19:59,240 Speaker 2: You don't get him, right right, there were rumors they 456 00:19:59,280 --> 00:20:00,879 Speaker 2: were going to cut him, but then you got to 457 00:20:00,880 --> 00:20:03,720 Speaker 2: compete with everybody else, right, Yeah, I mean, so you 458 00:20:03,840 --> 00:20:07,239 Speaker 2: make sure that structure them up and you know, get 459 00:20:07,320 --> 00:20:09,280 Speaker 2: them all trained up in what you want to do. 460 00:20:09,960 --> 00:20:11,960 Speaker 2: These are minor moves, but I'd still like to see 461 00:20:12,480 --> 00:20:16,000 Speaker 2: Watts brought back Golden. They can happen a week from 462 00:20:16,040 --> 00:20:17,160 Speaker 2: now point. 463 00:20:17,200 --> 00:20:18,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, those guys get stooped up. 464 00:20:18,560 --> 00:20:21,200 Speaker 2: You can get someone very similar. Absolutely, but your defense 465 00:20:21,280 --> 00:20:24,359 Speaker 2: is pretty close. Yeah, pretty close. And you've got a 466 00:20:24,359 --> 00:20:25,280 Speaker 2: lot of draft picks I had you. 467 00:20:25,960 --> 00:20:29,280 Speaker 1: Absolutely, let's get to a break. He is the Matt Williamson. 468 00:20:29,280 --> 00:20:31,280 Speaker 1: I'm Dale Lollie. You're listening to the drive here on 469 00:20:31,400 --> 00:20:34,800 Speaker 1: Steelers Nation Radio. We'll be back with more right after this. 470 00:20:37,560 --> 00:20:40,760 Speaker 1: Welcome back. I'm Dale Lolli. He is the Matt Williamson 471 00:20:40,800 --> 00:20:43,240 Speaker 1: and Matt some of the moves from Randa League that 472 00:20:43,320 --> 00:20:45,640 Speaker 1: we kind of knew were happening. Yeah, they're officially, they're 473 00:20:45,680 --> 00:20:48,320 Speaker 1: starting to become official now. So the forty nine Ers 474 00:20:48,359 --> 00:20:50,240 Speaker 1: have officially released Eric Armstead. 475 00:20:50,600 --> 00:20:53,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, he's going to be sought after, and you could 476 00:20:53,440 --> 00:20:55,440 Speaker 2: convince me he wouldn't look bad in black and gold either, 477 00:20:55,520 --> 00:20:57,119 Speaker 2: but there's gonna be competition for that there. 478 00:20:57,200 --> 00:21:00,160 Speaker 1: He would be expect that would be a big ticket idea. 479 00:21:00,040 --> 00:21:01,399 Speaker 2: Be a big ticket item. There's a couple of these 480 00:21:01,440 --> 00:21:03,440 Speaker 2: are gonna be big ticket items, which are kind of fun. 481 00:21:05,119 --> 00:21:10,159 Speaker 1: So the the Dolphins officially released Xavian Howard. Yeah, but 482 00:21:10,280 --> 00:21:13,280 Speaker 1: they did so with a failed physical designation, So now 483 00:21:13,359 --> 00:21:14,840 Speaker 1: it makes he's a little more interesting. 484 00:21:15,160 --> 00:21:15,840 Speaker 2: Okay, like he. 485 00:21:15,880 --> 00:21:18,080 Speaker 1: Failed as physical. Now he's got to pass the physical. 486 00:21:18,160 --> 00:21:21,000 Speaker 1: Like any team that brings him in, you're gonna put him. 487 00:21:21,240 --> 00:21:23,439 Speaker 1: He's been you played in the league. As long as 488 00:21:23,520 --> 00:21:24,440 Speaker 1: he has, you're gonna. 489 00:21:24,200 --> 00:21:26,399 Speaker 2: Have some He's had a handful of big things. I 490 00:21:26,480 --> 00:21:26,840 Speaker 2: think too. 491 00:21:27,600 --> 00:21:29,959 Speaker 1: So you know, now any team that looks at him, 492 00:21:30,000 --> 00:21:31,800 Speaker 1: you know, somebody might have said, well, you know, the 493 00:21:31,800 --> 00:21:34,440 Speaker 1: Steelers could have just waited and signed Xavier you know 494 00:21:34,600 --> 00:21:35,320 Speaker 1: Xavier Howard. 495 00:21:35,840 --> 00:21:38,560 Speaker 2: Well if not if he's healthy, not if he's not healthy. Yeah, 496 00:21:38,960 --> 00:21:41,919 Speaker 2: and we didn't add him in the free agent corner 497 00:21:42,160 --> 00:21:45,200 Speaker 2: list because he's new. Yeah, I don't love it either. 498 00:21:45,440 --> 00:21:47,520 Speaker 2: I always thought he was a little overrated. Like sure, 499 00:21:47,520 --> 00:21:49,199 Speaker 2: if they got I'm at the right price, like anything, 500 00:21:49,440 --> 00:21:51,600 Speaker 2: he'd be a great addition. He's a starting player, he 501 00:21:51,640 --> 00:21:54,680 Speaker 2: takes football away, but he's not super athletic and he's 502 00:21:54,720 --> 00:21:55,280 Speaker 2: lost a step. 503 00:21:55,520 --> 00:21:58,719 Speaker 1: Yeah, we mentioned Mike Williams being released that one has. 504 00:21:58,840 --> 00:22:01,480 Speaker 1: I would be interested in Mike at the right price. 505 00:22:01,720 --> 00:22:04,400 Speaker 2: He's hurt all the time, not as much you think, Yeah, 506 00:22:04,920 --> 00:22:07,280 Speaker 2: I mean he him and pickings running go routes for 507 00:22:07,760 --> 00:22:13,200 Speaker 2: Wilson throwing bombs. Yeah, he'll block, he's feisty, he's huge. 508 00:22:13,359 --> 00:22:15,000 Speaker 1: Goes up and gets the football. I think this is 509 00:22:15,000 --> 00:22:16,840 Speaker 1: the cheapest you could ever get him in his career. Yeah, 510 00:22:16,840 --> 00:22:18,720 Speaker 1: I don't know what the what the price tag would be. 511 00:22:18,800 --> 00:22:20,560 Speaker 1: It's probably upwards a ten million a year. 512 00:22:20,480 --> 00:22:22,440 Speaker 2: I would say tennis. Yeah right. He might be on 513 00:22:22,560 --> 00:22:26,280 Speaker 2: a ten year proven deal or a two year twenty 514 00:22:26,480 --> 00:22:29,600 Speaker 2: three ish deal, something like that. I don't know. I 515 00:22:29,680 --> 00:22:33,240 Speaker 2: mean Ridley supposedly asking twenty which he won't get. Yeah, 516 00:22:33,359 --> 00:22:35,040 Speaker 2: he's probably top of the market now. I think he 517 00:22:35,080 --> 00:22:37,879 Speaker 2: get ends up settling at sixteen fifteen something like that. 518 00:22:38,160 --> 00:22:40,240 Speaker 1: Get more, who knows a little more. Yeah, he had 519 00:22:40,280 --> 00:22:41,919 Speaker 1: two teams bidding for you. That's that's all the thing. 520 00:22:42,040 --> 00:22:44,159 Speaker 2: He's got a lot, you know, they're right in it 521 00:22:44,200 --> 00:22:47,359 Speaker 2: and they got a lot to spend. Yeah, jacksonvill doesn't. 522 00:22:47,960 --> 00:22:53,879 Speaker 1: The Raiders released Hunter, Henry Hunter, Renfresh he's interesting too 523 00:22:54,240 --> 00:22:54,960 Speaker 1: money Renfro. 524 00:22:55,720 --> 00:22:57,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, he got a short end of the stick there 525 00:22:57,440 --> 00:22:59,520 Speaker 2: only because he signed too big a deal. Yeah, they 526 00:22:59,640 --> 00:23:02,320 Speaker 2: liked him to much. It's the last regime. Like I 527 00:23:02,440 --> 00:23:05,080 Speaker 2: prefer him to boyd oh yeah, like to me, they're 528 00:23:05,080 --> 00:23:07,960 Speaker 2: both slots that are sort of similar in how you 529 00:23:08,000 --> 00:23:11,040 Speaker 2: would use them. I think Renfrozer, ren Frozer open all 530 00:23:11,280 --> 00:23:13,679 Speaker 2: the time, all the time. He runs better, and he's 531 00:23:13,760 --> 00:23:16,800 Speaker 2: quicker than Boyd. He's younger, he's younger. I haven't seen 532 00:23:16,880 --> 00:23:18,159 Speaker 2: much from him lately, which. 533 00:23:18,320 --> 00:23:21,440 Speaker 1: That's not a bad thing though, because he's he's pretty fresh. 534 00:23:21,400 --> 00:23:21,880 Speaker 2: Pretty fresh. 535 00:23:21,960 --> 00:23:22,160 Speaker 1: Yeah. 536 00:23:22,240 --> 00:23:23,399 Speaker 2: No, he'd be a really good addition. 537 00:23:23,560 --> 00:23:25,159 Speaker 1: Yeah. I mean, so, you know, if you if you 538 00:23:25,200 --> 00:23:27,239 Speaker 1: were able to do, if you're able, I don't care 539 00:23:27,280 --> 00:23:29,200 Speaker 1: how you add the big receiver on the outside on 540 00:23:29,280 --> 00:23:30,640 Speaker 1: the other side of pickings and then. 541 00:23:30,680 --> 00:23:33,680 Speaker 2: The draft, Yeah right, right right, you know, now you've 542 00:23:33,920 --> 00:23:36,760 Speaker 2: you've got a nice basketball team. Yeah, yeah, I agree. 543 00:23:37,040 --> 00:23:39,800 Speaker 2: I also think side note fire moose role is set 544 00:23:39,880 --> 00:23:42,400 Speaker 2: to grow exponentially. Oh yeah, yeah, exponentially. Yeah. 545 00:23:42,880 --> 00:23:45,679 Speaker 1: I think the tight ends are going to be very happy. 546 00:23:46,119 --> 00:23:47,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree, I agree. 547 00:23:47,920 --> 00:23:55,840 Speaker 1: So, uh, looking at the division earlier today, the Ravens 548 00:23:57,160 --> 00:23:58,879 Speaker 1: shipped off Morgan Moses. 549 00:23:58,840 --> 00:24:02,359 Speaker 2: To the Jets, coming right good for the Jets are 550 00:24:02,359 --> 00:24:03,480 Speaker 2: actually getting legit. 551 00:24:03,359 --> 00:24:06,120 Speaker 1: Lineman Baltimore's offensive line is an issue. It's a real 552 00:24:06,240 --> 00:24:09,440 Speaker 1: They've already lost John Simpson right starting with guard. He 553 00:24:09,520 --> 00:24:13,240 Speaker 1: was starting guard now they've traded Moses starting right tackle, 554 00:24:13,280 --> 00:24:16,359 Speaker 1: starting right tackle. Zeitler's still a free agent. 555 00:24:16,760 --> 00:24:18,560 Speaker 2: I guess they could bring him back, but he's older 556 00:24:18,640 --> 00:24:22,000 Speaker 2: and declining rapidly. Linder Baum's gonna return at center. Who's 557 00:24:22,080 --> 00:24:26,000 Speaker 2: I think on the cusp of stardom. Stanley used to 558 00:24:26,040 --> 00:24:29,119 Speaker 2: be a star. He's a left tackle. They structure. I 559 00:24:29,160 --> 00:24:31,119 Speaker 2: thought he might be a cut That's. 560 00:24:31,000 --> 00:24:33,840 Speaker 1: Probably what was going to happen. Sure it's not that 561 00:24:33,960 --> 00:24:34,720 Speaker 1: kind of player, anymo. 562 00:24:35,119 --> 00:24:38,760 Speaker 2: I mean, that's an unfortunate set of circumstances. He got 563 00:24:38,840 --> 00:24:41,320 Speaker 2: hurt the day after they signed him, basically, but he is, 564 00:24:41,640 --> 00:24:44,800 Speaker 2: at this point in his career not an upper tier players. 565 00:24:44,560 --> 00:24:47,720 Speaker 1: Average to A to A by an average left tackle. 566 00:24:48,359 --> 00:24:50,480 Speaker 2: They use him in a rotation. He doesn't even play 567 00:24:50,480 --> 00:24:52,200 Speaker 2: every snap. I mean, like that don't know if he can. 568 00:24:52,480 --> 00:24:55,360 Speaker 2: I don't know that he can't either. McCarry's a valuable 569 00:24:55,400 --> 00:24:57,399 Speaker 2: guy for them because he can play every position. But 570 00:24:57,480 --> 00:25:00,000 Speaker 2: he's really a six guy, you know, but he's gonna 571 00:25:00,040 --> 00:25:03,360 Speaker 2: probably end up being a starter somewhere. We laugh at file. 572 00:25:03,720 --> 00:25:06,640 Speaker 2: But right now he's a starting right tackle because he's bad. 573 00:25:06,880 --> 00:25:08,560 Speaker 2: I mean, he's on the ground all the time. T 574 00:25:08,680 --> 00:25:10,600 Speaker 2: J Watt would love him to be a starting right tackle. 575 00:25:11,160 --> 00:25:13,439 Speaker 2: So they kind of have like one and a half dudes, 576 00:25:13,880 --> 00:25:15,560 Speaker 2: you know, one and two halves. 577 00:25:15,720 --> 00:25:18,119 Speaker 1: Yeah, but when when you know they go out and 578 00:25:18,119 --> 00:25:20,399 Speaker 1: they signed Derrick Henry, which has been their only signing 579 00:25:20,480 --> 00:25:23,399 Speaker 1: thus far. Yeah, they're only outside and they've lost like 580 00:25:23,480 --> 00:25:24,000 Speaker 1: eight guys. 581 00:25:25,840 --> 00:25:26,800 Speaker 2: We knew they're hit hard. 582 00:25:26,840 --> 00:25:28,360 Speaker 1: But one of the things that was said, Wow, he's 583 00:25:28,400 --> 00:25:30,720 Speaker 1: going to run behind that great Ravens offensive line. 584 00:25:31,800 --> 00:25:33,159 Speaker 2: Is it great? I mean, i'd be better than the 585 00:25:33,240 --> 00:25:35,080 Speaker 2: Titans last year, which is a worse than the league, 586 00:25:35,119 --> 00:25:37,000 Speaker 2: but it's not what it was even a year ago. 587 00:25:37,240 --> 00:25:38,720 Speaker 1: No, it's I don't know, it's going to be a 588 00:25:38,760 --> 00:25:39,880 Speaker 1: real good offensive line. 589 00:25:39,920 --> 00:25:42,880 Speaker 2: And yeah, I wouldn't want to be shopping for free 590 00:25:42,920 --> 00:25:44,160 Speaker 2: agent alignment right now either. 591 00:25:44,400 --> 00:25:47,040 Speaker 1: No, that the prices those guys have been getting like 592 00:25:47,320 --> 00:25:49,640 Speaker 1: they'll start to come down a little. But still yeah, 593 00:25:49,840 --> 00:25:56,119 Speaker 1: so that's interesting. Did you see the thing today the 594 00:25:56,640 --> 00:26:00,920 Speaker 1: former Tyler Eifert on a podcast. 595 00:26:01,080 --> 00:26:02,600 Speaker 2: Oh okay, I thought you said it would come back. 596 00:26:02,760 --> 00:26:06,320 Speaker 1: No, no, he's right, but he said on the podcast, 597 00:26:06,640 --> 00:26:13,040 Speaker 1: don't be surprised if Cincinnati makes a play to go 598 00:26:13,119 --> 00:26:14,080 Speaker 1: get Justin Jefferson. 599 00:26:15,160 --> 00:26:19,360 Speaker 2: Wow, I mean, I read three headlines this morning. We're 600 00:26:19,400 --> 00:26:21,840 Speaker 2: not interested in trading Justin Jefferson, which probably means you're 601 00:26:21,840 --> 00:26:26,520 Speaker 2: interested in trading Jefferson. I mean, what would that entail. 602 00:26:26,880 --> 00:26:29,440 Speaker 1: I I would guess t Higgins will be involved in 603 00:26:29,520 --> 00:26:29,760 Speaker 1: the deal. 604 00:26:29,800 --> 00:26:32,320 Speaker 2: I would think, or he goes to Carolina or something. 605 00:26:32,359 --> 00:26:33,879 Speaker 2: And I mean, you don't have all three of them. 606 00:26:34,960 --> 00:26:37,480 Speaker 2: He's gonna make thirty three, right, and Chase is gonna 607 00:26:37,480 --> 00:26:39,199 Speaker 2: want the exact same contract a year from now. 608 00:26:39,520 --> 00:26:41,640 Speaker 1: But if you want the scariest, yeah, if you wanted 609 00:26:41,680 --> 00:26:43,800 Speaker 1: to go for it for one year, right and just say, hey, 610 00:26:43,880 --> 00:26:45,800 Speaker 1: we are we are all in on going for it 611 00:26:45,880 --> 00:26:47,800 Speaker 1: this year. Yeah, Because there's no way we're going to 612 00:26:47,840 --> 00:26:50,240 Speaker 1: afford all three of these guys moving forward. 613 00:26:50,840 --> 00:26:54,119 Speaker 2: I would assume not. But they at least signed some 614 00:26:54,200 --> 00:26:56,040 Speaker 2: tight ends. Gasek's was one of them. 615 00:26:56,160 --> 00:26:58,880 Speaker 1: Not well, what I thought, that's another receiver that's really 616 00:26:59,040 --> 00:26:59,639 Speaker 1: that's their slot. 617 00:27:00,160 --> 00:27:01,800 Speaker 2: I don't think Boyd's going to be back. They hadn't 618 00:27:01,800 --> 00:27:04,840 Speaker 2: touched right tackle, but Jonah Williams has gotten no interest 619 00:27:04,840 --> 00:27:09,760 Speaker 2: from what I've seen either. Mixing's gone signed Moss to 620 00:27:09,880 --> 00:27:14,840 Speaker 2: be his replacement, which is fine whatever. I had not 621 00:27:14,960 --> 00:27:17,520 Speaker 2: seen that about Jefferson, But if Higgin wants to trade, 622 00:27:18,160 --> 00:27:21,000 Speaker 2: I didn't think it'd be an upgrade. You know, I 623 00:27:21,040 --> 00:27:21,720 Speaker 2: don't know how you fit that. 624 00:27:21,920 --> 00:27:26,040 Speaker 1: What Higgins in Cincinnati's won do it for you? If 625 00:27:26,040 --> 00:27:31,080 Speaker 1: you're the Vikings, Yeah, yeah, pretty close. It's like sixteen 626 00:27:31,160 --> 00:27:33,879 Speaker 1: right or sixteen or seventeen right where the Bengals are picking. 627 00:27:34,920 --> 00:27:37,560 Speaker 2: Vikes need to find a quarterback somehow. They were really 628 00:27:37,600 --> 00:27:39,399 Speaker 2: aggressive in free agency, and I don't think they were 629 00:27:39,440 --> 00:27:41,160 Speaker 2: as excited to bring they had six. 630 00:27:41,359 --> 00:27:43,159 Speaker 1: If they had sixteen in their pick, they might be 631 00:27:43,200 --> 00:27:45,040 Speaker 1: able to get to trade. 632 00:27:44,880 --> 00:27:47,080 Speaker 2: Up a ree to get that definitely get to the 633 00:27:47,160 --> 00:27:51,760 Speaker 2: McCarthy neighborhood. Yeah, yeah, no, I could see it. I 634 00:27:51,800 --> 00:27:54,600 Speaker 2: could see it. I mean, go with Addison and Higgins 635 00:27:54,720 --> 00:27:58,480 Speaker 2: and Hawkinson and good ol' line and Aaron Jones is 636 00:27:58,480 --> 00:28:00,960 Speaker 2: a nice pickup for him. Yeah, they wouldn't much no 637 00:28:01,440 --> 00:28:03,800 Speaker 2: other than not having but not Cousins. 638 00:28:03,520 --> 00:28:05,919 Speaker 1: And you wouldn't have the headache of, hey, we got 639 00:28:06,040 --> 00:28:08,800 Speaker 1: to resign Jefferson And does Jefferson want to resign here 640 00:28:09,320 --> 00:28:11,960 Speaker 1: with ourt Cousins and you know, our quarterbacks up in 641 00:28:12,000 --> 00:28:12,240 Speaker 1: the air. 642 00:28:12,359 --> 00:28:14,560 Speaker 2: As awesome as he is, I don't know that he's 643 00:28:14,560 --> 00:28:16,639 Speaker 2: a thirty three million dollars a year player. I mean, 644 00:28:16,680 --> 00:28:18,240 Speaker 2: I think he's probably the best receiver in the league. 645 00:28:19,000 --> 00:28:22,240 Speaker 2: But if my quarterbacks are rookie, I don't know. That's 646 00:28:22,240 --> 00:28:24,280 Speaker 2: a tough one. That's interesting. I just don't know how 647 00:28:24,280 --> 00:28:26,560 Speaker 2: the Bengals could swing it, because Chase is on one 648 00:28:26,600 --> 00:28:29,200 Speaker 2: year behind him. I mean, right, you don't make that 649 00:28:29,320 --> 00:28:31,200 Speaker 2: move and then just let Chase walk the next year. 650 00:28:32,400 --> 00:28:34,960 Speaker 2: I think you give those guys the same contract their 651 00:28:34,960 --> 00:28:36,520 Speaker 2: buddies from LSU blah blah blah. 652 00:28:37,160 --> 00:28:38,280 Speaker 1: You're gonna be spending. 653 00:28:38,000 --> 00:28:40,760 Speaker 2: Three guys would be your whole paper pretty much. Yeah. 654 00:28:41,600 --> 00:28:43,640 Speaker 1: I don't know that you could do anything else this offseason, 655 00:28:43,680 --> 00:28:45,000 Speaker 1: but that would certainly make it interesting. 656 00:28:45,520 --> 00:28:49,200 Speaker 2: They would found it interesting. They signed a safety, they 657 00:28:49,280 --> 00:28:52,160 Speaker 2: were not happy with their guys. There's been some talk 658 00:28:52,240 --> 00:28:54,560 Speaker 2: they might move to ax Hill to corner, which maybe 659 00:28:54,640 --> 00:28:57,160 Speaker 2: that's what he is. You know, they've done nothing in 660 00:28:57,240 --> 00:29:00,640 Speaker 2: the reader world. He's still out there. They might. I mean, 661 00:29:01,640 --> 00:29:03,160 Speaker 2: I want to talk about two sides of my mouth. 662 00:29:03,200 --> 00:29:05,360 Speaker 2: I mean, people call the Bengals cheap, but I think 663 00:29:05,400 --> 00:29:08,920 Speaker 2: they've been more frugal than cheap lately and didn't want 664 00:29:08,920 --> 00:29:10,680 Speaker 2: to get in the title wave. I bet I could 665 00:29:10,720 --> 00:29:13,520 Speaker 2: see them the next day or two making some moves. 666 00:29:13,560 --> 00:29:13,760 Speaker 1: We go. 667 00:29:13,960 --> 00:29:16,000 Speaker 2: Oh, it's a nice pickup. Yeah, it was a pretty good, 668 00:29:16,120 --> 00:29:17,360 Speaker 2: you know, pretty good price for that guy. 669 00:29:17,560 --> 00:29:21,080 Speaker 1: Yeah. The Raiders also announcing the release of Jimmy Garoppolo. 670 00:29:21,440 --> 00:29:24,320 Speaker 2: So yeah, another guy, yeah man renfro right, Yeah, and 671 00:29:24,400 --> 00:29:25,040 Speaker 2: there's two dudes. 672 00:29:25,080 --> 00:29:26,719 Speaker 1: Maybe he winds up in Minnesota. 673 00:29:27,640 --> 00:29:30,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, Sam Darnold's Vike, which I'm kind of interesting in. 674 00:29:31,720 --> 00:29:33,560 Speaker 1: But you could still use another guy. Yeah. 675 00:29:34,040 --> 00:29:36,440 Speaker 2: So here's a weird thing with Jimmy, Like I think 676 00:29:36,480 --> 00:29:40,160 Speaker 2: he is the perfect bridge for a rookie, but he 677 00:29:40,240 --> 00:29:42,760 Speaker 2: suspended the first two games. Yeah, Like it'd be so 678 00:29:42,880 --> 00:29:45,640 Speaker 2: much better if he suspended the last four games, you know, 679 00:29:45,720 --> 00:29:47,040 Speaker 2: like we need you at the begin of the year 680 00:29:47,080 --> 00:29:49,760 Speaker 2: to hold down the fort for Drake may or somebody 681 00:29:49,880 --> 00:29:53,480 Speaker 2: like that, and you're out. I mean, so that hurts 682 00:29:53,520 --> 00:29:55,880 Speaker 2: his situation. But he's such a good locker room guy. 683 00:29:56,360 --> 00:29:58,280 Speaker 2: I think he'll get scooped up soon. Maybe he's like 684 00:29:58,360 --> 00:30:01,520 Speaker 2: the Bears guy backup or so something like that. Yeah, yeah, 685 00:30:01,600 --> 00:30:03,600 Speaker 2: maybe a good influence. I don't know, there's a lot 686 00:30:03,600 --> 00:30:06,040 Speaker 2: of landing spots for him. Doesn't seem like there's a 687 00:30:06,040 --> 00:30:07,120 Speaker 2: lot of land spots for Fields. 688 00:30:07,640 --> 00:30:09,000 Speaker 1: It does not that seems to be. 689 00:30:09,200 --> 00:30:11,120 Speaker 2: I don't know who could even be in the market. 690 00:30:12,000 --> 00:30:15,920 Speaker 2: I mean, I'm hearing things like Seattle's backup, the Eagles 691 00:30:16,000 --> 00:30:16,920 Speaker 2: back up, you know. 692 00:30:17,080 --> 00:30:19,920 Speaker 1: Like, but nobody's trading you anything of note for right, 693 00:30:20,000 --> 00:30:21,080 Speaker 1: somebody who's your backup? 694 00:30:21,280 --> 00:30:23,959 Speaker 2: Right? I think you hold on to him. Well, if 695 00:30:24,000 --> 00:30:26,600 Speaker 2: I'm Seattle, I'd rather roll dice on getting Pinnis in 696 00:30:26,640 --> 00:30:27,800 Speaker 2: the second round or something. 697 00:30:27,880 --> 00:30:28,040 Speaker 1: You know. 698 00:30:28,200 --> 00:30:31,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know, especially if the Patriots sign and 699 00:30:31,400 --> 00:30:32,560 Speaker 2: per set they've got to be out of it. 700 00:30:32,920 --> 00:30:35,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, that was one that to me just didn't make 701 00:30:35,320 --> 00:30:38,880 Speaker 1: sense for the Steelers, not with what you potentially would 702 00:30:38,880 --> 00:30:40,600 Speaker 1: have had to give up and then have to pay 703 00:30:40,680 --> 00:30:41,400 Speaker 1: him on top of that. 704 00:30:42,080 --> 00:30:44,560 Speaker 2: The impression I got with Fields is if it were 705 00:30:44,640 --> 00:30:46,840 Speaker 2: two years ago and you got him for four million 706 00:30:46,840 --> 00:30:47,440 Speaker 2: and five million. 707 00:30:47,720 --> 00:30:49,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, sure, that's a different conversation. 708 00:30:49,600 --> 00:30:52,920 Speaker 2: And earlier I thought, you know, twenty eight million form 709 00:30:53,000 --> 00:30:55,360 Speaker 2: for two years isn't that bad? But I think the 710 00:30:55,440 --> 00:30:57,520 Speaker 2: league has told us that no one wants to pick 711 00:30:57,600 --> 00:30:59,680 Speaker 2: up a fifth year option, right because it's a one 712 00:30:59,720 --> 00:31:02,880 Speaker 2: year then and then it's you're not going to give up. 713 00:31:03,000 --> 00:31:03,800 Speaker 2: It's a four round pick. 714 00:31:04,040 --> 00:31:05,600 Speaker 1: You're not giving up a Day one or two pick 715 00:31:06,040 --> 00:31:09,360 Speaker 1: right and potential potential one year reundal. 716 00:31:09,680 --> 00:31:11,640 Speaker 2: I think that's what the league's saying, or if they 717 00:31:11,800 --> 00:31:13,200 Speaker 2: if they were all like we're going to take up 718 00:31:13,200 --> 00:31:15,520 Speaker 2: his his option, then he'd gotten traded by now. 719 00:31:15,720 --> 00:31:20,320 Speaker 1: Yeah. So so looking at this, uh and and there'll 720 00:31:20,360 --> 00:31:22,240 Speaker 1: be more moves to come. But the Steelers have made them. 721 00:31:22,720 --> 00:31:26,400 Speaker 1: They're they're they're big splashes thus far. How would you 722 00:31:26,480 --> 00:31:28,120 Speaker 1: grade these these moves out thus far? 723 00:31:30,680 --> 00:31:32,360 Speaker 2: I know we have a lot of listeners that remember 724 00:31:32,520 --> 00:31:37,120 Speaker 2: things we said yes and we weren't super into Wilson, 725 00:31:38,480 --> 00:31:42,520 Speaker 2: We brushed off Queen, and we thought the Anta's trade 726 00:31:42,560 --> 00:31:43,160 Speaker 2: was a bad idea. 727 00:31:45,200 --> 00:31:48,320 Speaker 1: Of all those things, to me, giving up Deontay Johnson 728 00:31:49,840 --> 00:31:51,560 Speaker 1: is the ones I have the question the most because 729 00:31:51,560 --> 00:31:53,360 Speaker 1: you had the point because you actually had to give 730 00:31:53,440 --> 00:31:55,800 Speaker 1: something up right to get I get it. 731 00:31:55,840 --> 00:31:56,920 Speaker 2: And I'm certain he's good. 732 00:31:57,160 --> 00:31:58,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, I know what he is. I know he's a 733 00:31:58,920 --> 00:32:03,720 Speaker 1: good football player. Jackson is fine. Again, you probably wouldn't 734 00:32:03,760 --> 00:32:07,320 Speaker 1: have gotten better than that on the open market, But 735 00:32:07,480 --> 00:32:09,520 Speaker 1: I don't like opening up that hole, right. 736 00:32:10,120 --> 00:32:11,840 Speaker 2: I think Johnson's better than what he does, than what 737 00:32:11,920 --> 00:32:14,080 Speaker 2: Jackson does, to be honest with you, Yeah, and it's 738 00:32:14,120 --> 00:32:17,600 Speaker 2: worth more in an entry draft right now or what 739 00:32:17,640 --> 00:32:19,880 Speaker 2: they're going to get per year like Caroline is going 740 00:32:19,920 --> 00:32:21,239 Speaker 2: to extend him. I think it's a really good deal 741 00:32:21,280 --> 00:32:25,640 Speaker 2: for the Panthers. Frankly, what's a compliment to Deontae but 742 00:32:25,760 --> 00:32:30,360 Speaker 2: Wilson for what you're paying him. Yeah, and the veteran 743 00:32:30,640 --> 00:32:34,320 Speaker 2: and the other quarterbacks available. I don't have a problem 744 00:32:34,360 --> 00:32:36,640 Speaker 2: with today. And it's not like I changed my tune 745 00:32:36,680 --> 00:32:37,400 Speaker 2: on them all that much. 746 00:32:38,200 --> 00:32:40,440 Speaker 1: And frankly of them when we talked about him, like, look, 747 00:32:40,480 --> 00:32:41,280 Speaker 1: I see both sides. 748 00:32:41,440 --> 00:32:44,040 Speaker 2: Ye, yeah, you know this does They're two very obvious. 749 00:32:44,400 --> 00:32:47,480 Speaker 1: Monetarily in terms. Would I want to pay Russell Wilson 750 00:32:47,920 --> 00:32:49,560 Speaker 1: thirty five million dollars a year? If I would? I 751 00:32:49,560 --> 00:32:52,320 Speaker 1: want to pay Russell Wilson the Baker Mayfield contract. 752 00:32:52,440 --> 00:32:53,960 Speaker 2: I would not do. No, I wouldn't want to do 753 00:32:54,040 --> 00:32:55,800 Speaker 2: wouldn't do that. Would I want to be a year 754 00:32:55,840 --> 00:32:56,120 Speaker 2: from now? 755 00:32:56,160 --> 00:32:59,520 Speaker 1: I will if he's a world maybe much more about 756 00:32:59,600 --> 00:32:59,880 Speaker 1: him now? 757 00:33:00,000 --> 00:33:02,680 Speaker 2: Would you can consider it? But I want him to 758 00:33:02,720 --> 00:33:04,240 Speaker 2: throw to the middle of field more than he has 759 00:33:04,360 --> 00:33:08,200 Speaker 2: too at no cost. Okay, you can cut him in camp, Yeah, 760 00:33:08,320 --> 00:33:10,960 Speaker 2: I mean really good. I mean, if he's a disaster, 761 00:33:11,200 --> 00:33:13,280 Speaker 2: you don't even have to bring him to the opening day. 762 00:33:14,160 --> 00:33:17,160 Speaker 2: And the Queen thing, it wasn't because we didn't think 763 00:33:17,160 --> 00:33:17,600 Speaker 2: he was good. 764 00:33:18,520 --> 00:33:20,479 Speaker 1: Eighteen. Yeah, I didn't think he'd be available to him 765 00:33:20,480 --> 00:33:24,040 Speaker 1: at that price, right, right, So I thought at eighteen 766 00:33:24,120 --> 00:33:25,280 Speaker 1: he's probably overpaid. 767 00:33:25,720 --> 00:33:28,280 Speaker 2: So I think I would rank those three moves. Queen's 768 00:33:28,360 --> 00:33:32,440 Speaker 2: my favorite, Wilson's my second, Johnson trades my third. 769 00:33:32,840 --> 00:33:33,040 Speaker 1: Yeah. 770 00:33:33,360 --> 00:33:36,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, but I do believe maybe as soon as our 771 00:33:36,200 --> 00:33:39,960 Speaker 2: next visit on Friday, the Johnson thing makes something more. 772 00:33:40,680 --> 00:33:42,400 Speaker 1: Something will have happened that makes it. 773 00:33:42,680 --> 00:33:47,280 Speaker 2: Either if it's just cap space created contractually or Mike 774 00:33:47,320 --> 00:33:49,400 Speaker 2: Williams all of a sudden's in town or whatever it is, 775 00:33:49,560 --> 00:33:52,520 Speaker 2: I think that will make more sense in a day 776 00:33:52,600 --> 00:33:52,840 Speaker 2: or two. 777 00:33:53,040 --> 00:33:56,040 Speaker 1: Yeah. No, I'm with you. You know something this is 778 00:33:56,520 --> 00:34:00,840 Speaker 1: you don't make that trade without another move two receivers. 779 00:34:00,880 --> 00:34:03,200 Speaker 2: You know there's there's another shooters. 780 00:34:02,920 --> 00:34:05,000 Speaker 1: Because you're not drafting two receivers and saying, oh, we 781 00:34:05,040 --> 00:34:05,760 Speaker 1: got to plan both. 782 00:34:06,240 --> 00:34:08,640 Speaker 2: No, right, I mean you'd like a leader in that 783 00:34:08,800 --> 00:34:11,680 Speaker 2: room and somebody's been around the block, and how young 784 00:34:11,760 --> 00:34:13,839 Speaker 2: do you want to be on offense? I think you're 785 00:34:13,880 --> 00:34:16,759 Speaker 2: excited now to draft the receiver. I mean, yeah, so 786 00:34:16,920 --> 00:34:21,719 Speaker 2: many good ones. Yeah, but your center need didn't go away. 787 00:34:22,480 --> 00:34:24,960 Speaker 2: Love to take advantage of this tackle market. I still 788 00:34:25,000 --> 00:34:27,759 Speaker 2: think you need to draft a corner so you can't 789 00:34:27,800 --> 00:34:29,279 Speaker 2: have them all in round one, you know. And I 790 00:34:29,320 --> 00:34:32,600 Speaker 2: don't think corners in the round one discussion anymore. It's 791 00:34:32,640 --> 00:34:34,280 Speaker 2: more of a third fourth type of situation. 792 00:34:34,360 --> 00:34:36,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think you can. You can choose to be 793 00:34:36,960 --> 00:34:38,160 Speaker 1: a little more prudent. 794 00:34:38,400 --> 00:34:42,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, and if you if you sign the right receiver, 795 00:34:43,480 --> 00:34:46,080 Speaker 2: even a third round receiver, I could live with, you know. 796 00:34:46,160 --> 00:34:48,400 Speaker 1: In addition to yeah, looking at some of the guys 797 00:34:48,480 --> 00:34:52,239 Speaker 1: still available at the receiver position, obviously, Calvin Ridley is 798 00:34:52,320 --> 00:34:53,839 Speaker 1: the is there. 799 00:34:54,280 --> 00:34:59,160 Speaker 2: He's the jewel. I think he's from what I understand, 800 00:34:59,200 --> 00:35:01,719 Speaker 2: he has an inflat add value of himself. And it's 801 00:35:01,760 --> 00:35:03,480 Speaker 2: come down to the Jags who don't have any money 802 00:35:03,480 --> 00:35:07,960 Speaker 2: in the Patriots that nobody wants to go to. But 803 00:35:08,560 --> 00:35:11,760 Speaker 2: he's good. I mean, he's better than his fantasy numbers 804 00:35:11,760 --> 00:35:13,280 Speaker 2: implied last year in Jacksonville. 805 00:35:13,280 --> 00:35:15,239 Speaker 1: I can promise you that, which doesn't speak well for 806 00:35:16,400 --> 00:35:19,760 Speaker 1: what they did last year in Jacksonville. Trevor Lawrence in particular. 807 00:35:19,640 --> 00:35:24,480 Speaker 2: Their brutal I thought they made life really hard on 808 00:35:24,600 --> 00:35:29,000 Speaker 2: Lawrence and so I don't think Ridley returns there, but 809 00:35:29,160 --> 00:35:31,759 Speaker 2: maybe he does if it goes another day or two. 810 00:35:32,400 --> 00:35:33,400 Speaker 2: I at least put a call in. 811 00:35:33,680 --> 00:35:33,919 Speaker 1: Yeah. 812 00:35:33,960 --> 00:35:35,880 Speaker 2: He's a little older than you think too, by the way, folks, 813 00:35:35,920 --> 00:35:36,840 Speaker 2: and he's been suspended. 814 00:35:38,000 --> 00:35:41,080 Speaker 1: You also have to look at adding You know that 815 00:35:41,200 --> 00:35:43,360 Speaker 1: we mentioned Hunter renfro now back out there in addition 816 00:35:43,440 --> 00:35:44,080 Speaker 1: to Mike Williams. 817 00:35:44,440 --> 00:35:46,600 Speaker 2: Mark Williams would be my first or second choice. 818 00:35:46,640 --> 00:35:50,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know that Marquise Brown fits what they 819 00:35:50,239 --> 00:35:52,120 Speaker 1: want to do in terms of I. 820 00:35:52,120 --> 00:35:54,200 Speaker 2: Think blocking is one of the reasons Deionte is not here. 821 00:35:54,320 --> 00:35:57,400 Speaker 1: Yeah. I mean to be honest with you, and Marquis 822 00:35:57,440 --> 00:35:58,680 Speaker 1: Brown's not going to do that for you. 823 00:35:59,000 --> 00:36:03,040 Speaker 2: No, he's been rumored that the Chiefs are interested. As 824 00:36:03,080 --> 00:36:05,840 Speaker 2: we speak. That seems like the perfect marriage to me 825 00:36:06,200 --> 00:36:09,440 Speaker 2: for what both guys could get. I still think Marquis 826 00:36:09,600 --> 00:36:11,360 Speaker 2: is a very good player and be a welcome addition 827 00:36:11,480 --> 00:36:15,120 Speaker 2: to any team. There's one of my number on him. 828 00:36:15,239 --> 00:36:18,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, you mentioned Odell Beckham. He's there. I'm not in. 829 00:36:18,480 --> 00:36:19,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a lot of work. 830 00:36:19,640 --> 00:36:25,000 Speaker 1: Curtis Samuel, he was originally you know, like projected to 831 00:36:25,040 --> 00:36:25,759 Speaker 1: get eight or nine. 832 00:36:25,920 --> 00:36:28,240 Speaker 2: I didn't love that six or seven. 833 00:36:29,760 --> 00:36:31,959 Speaker 1: He makes plays, makes plays, he's stay on the field. 834 00:36:32,200 --> 00:36:32,399 Speaker 2: Yeah. 835 00:36:32,920 --> 00:36:36,920 Speaker 1: I talked about Tyler Boyd. Yeah, Josh Reynolds, that one 836 00:36:36,960 --> 00:36:37,960 Speaker 1: I like too. Yeah. 837 00:36:38,120 --> 00:36:41,560 Speaker 2: I mean I think he's a downfield, tough guy. He's 838 00:36:41,600 --> 00:36:44,120 Speaker 2: skinnier than a Williams or a Pickens or those type 839 00:36:44,120 --> 00:36:45,640 Speaker 2: of dudes. But I think he's a better player than 840 00:36:45,640 --> 00:36:48,120 Speaker 2: given credit for. So I would have some interest in 841 00:36:48,200 --> 00:36:50,000 Speaker 2: that and a second round pick. 842 00:36:50,239 --> 00:36:52,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, kJ Osborne. 843 00:36:53,200 --> 00:36:57,160 Speaker 2: Maybe he's a lot like Westbrook, a keen Ad. They're 844 00:36:57,200 --> 00:37:01,480 Speaker 2: tough guys their size. They would be their third or 845 00:37:01,560 --> 00:37:02,959 Speaker 2: fourth ideally or fourth. 846 00:37:04,600 --> 00:37:06,359 Speaker 1: They still know what brown List is being out here. 847 00:37:06,360 --> 00:37:06,959 Speaker 1: I thought he signed. 848 00:37:06,960 --> 00:37:09,080 Speaker 2: I think he resigned. It went somewhere. I don't think 849 00:37:09,080 --> 00:37:09,880 Speaker 2: he's available. 850 00:37:10,200 --> 00:37:16,000 Speaker 1: And DJ Shark. I don't want DJ Shark either, but 851 00:37:16,239 --> 00:37:18,239 Speaker 1: he would be another LSU guy that you would be. 852 00:37:18,800 --> 00:37:21,240 Speaker 2: That's true, that's true. I mean he's tall and fast, 853 00:37:21,400 --> 00:37:23,000 Speaker 2: so he has that to him. I just think his 854 00:37:23,160 --> 00:37:25,040 Speaker 2: name values. I mean, at the right price, I'll take 855 00:37:25,040 --> 00:37:27,840 Speaker 2: any of them, but at the at his name value 856 00:37:27,960 --> 00:37:31,280 Speaker 2: is better than the player. He's very inconsistent. Yeah, I agree, 857 00:37:31,320 --> 00:37:34,759 Speaker 2: he's a one trick pony two. Yeah, but just looking 858 00:37:34,840 --> 00:37:36,520 Speaker 2: thinking there's another name or two out there. 859 00:37:36,719 --> 00:37:40,000 Speaker 1: Let me looking for a more updated list here, let's see, 860 00:37:40,200 --> 00:37:43,920 Speaker 1: uh the tracker, I get the tracker up. There's a 861 00:37:43,960 --> 00:37:44,960 Speaker 1: lot of contracts signed here. 862 00:37:45,080 --> 00:37:45,640 Speaker 2: It's insane. 863 00:37:45,719 --> 00:37:49,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, how about the running backs. By the way I counted, 864 00:37:49,760 --> 00:37:53,280 Speaker 1: this was as of last night, the moment the position 865 00:37:53,440 --> 00:37:56,360 Speaker 1: in which the most movement had taken place, it was 866 00:37:56,440 --> 00:37:59,160 Speaker 1: running back sixteen moves in the first two days. 867 00:37:59,040 --> 00:38:01,279 Speaker 2: Which tells us I think the back class thanks coming out. 868 00:38:01,360 --> 00:38:03,279 Speaker 1: It's kind of my feeling about it too, But it 869 00:38:03,400 --> 00:38:07,719 Speaker 1: also tends to lean against what everybody said, Well, running backs, 870 00:38:07,719 --> 00:38:10,560 Speaker 1: they don't matter team different right. 871 00:38:10,600 --> 00:38:13,160 Speaker 2: It goes back to our conversation of if we're gonna 872 00:38:13,200 --> 00:38:15,840 Speaker 2: run the ball more against too high and dime, I 873 00:38:15,920 --> 00:38:19,759 Speaker 2: want better ball carriers. And I also wonder some of 874 00:38:19,800 --> 00:38:22,360 Speaker 2: them is just shuffling chairs on the deck on the 875 00:38:22,840 --> 00:38:25,480 Speaker 2: you know, like Green Bay swapped one out for another, 876 00:38:25,640 --> 00:38:28,520 Speaker 2: you know, like that they value them more, they got 877 00:38:28,520 --> 00:38:32,279 Speaker 2: a little younger, you know. But one of the most 878 00:38:32,360 --> 00:38:36,959 Speaker 2: telling things to me though, was maybe the most analytically 879 00:38:37,120 --> 00:38:40,359 Speaker 2: inclined front office in the league is the Philadelphia Eagles, folks, 880 00:38:40,640 --> 00:38:42,920 Speaker 2: and a lot of people Steelers aren't analytically enough in 881 00:38:42,960 --> 00:38:46,000 Speaker 2: the client. They just signed the best back in the market, 882 00:38:46,400 --> 00:38:48,800 Speaker 2: you know, like to big money, to big money, and 883 00:38:48,920 --> 00:38:50,759 Speaker 2: I'm sure that they will treat him quote as a 884 00:38:50,840 --> 00:38:52,920 Speaker 2: weapon like the Niners doing with McCaffrey. I don't know 885 00:38:52,920 --> 00:38:54,640 Speaker 2: if they'll give him thirty carry the game and run 886 00:38:54,719 --> 00:38:57,840 Speaker 2: him into the ground. But these weapons, you know, I 887 00:38:58,000 --> 00:39:00,160 Speaker 2: was critical of the Lions for taking Jamior GiB in 888 00:39:00,200 --> 00:39:02,239 Speaker 2: the first round, like that's just not enough value. You 889 00:39:02,320 --> 00:39:05,920 Speaker 2: can find running backs are cheaper, not if you're a weapon. 890 00:39:06,080 --> 00:39:08,480 Speaker 2: You know, if you change the game in all facets, 891 00:39:08,920 --> 00:39:09,720 Speaker 2: you're valuable. 892 00:39:10,360 --> 00:39:12,160 Speaker 1: I'm just looking here at some of the other wide 893 00:39:12,200 --> 00:39:18,800 Speaker 1: receivers still available. Some guys we didn't mention here. Michael 894 00:39:18,840 --> 00:39:21,160 Speaker 1: Thomas is there. I don't no interest there. I don't 895 00:39:21,200 --> 00:39:25,520 Speaker 1: think Cedric Wilson's still out there. Jamal Agnew. 896 00:39:26,920 --> 00:39:30,240 Speaker 2: Mm hmm. You're not going to trade for t Higgins. 897 00:39:30,600 --> 00:39:35,400 Speaker 2: Trying to think of any trade candidates too. Mooney just 898 00:39:35,480 --> 00:39:37,759 Speaker 2: got scooped up, which it doesn't break my heart. 899 00:39:38,200 --> 00:39:39,600 Speaker 1: Leviscus Shenault. 900 00:39:41,560 --> 00:39:45,320 Speaker 2: At league minimum, Yeah, trickster guy. I mean, he wouldn't 901 00:39:45,360 --> 00:39:46,600 Speaker 2: I still think you need to more. 902 00:39:47,560 --> 00:39:50,799 Speaker 1: Uh. Van Jefferson there another one. 903 00:39:50,880 --> 00:39:53,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, kind of like some things he did, and they're young. 904 00:39:54,400 --> 00:40:00,279 Speaker 1: I mentioned Nick Westbrook of Kinney. Yeah, Sterling Shepherd is there. 905 00:40:00,600 --> 00:40:01,239 Speaker 1: He's always hurt. 906 00:40:01,440 --> 00:40:03,920 Speaker 2: I say, your doctors would have to like him. He's 907 00:40:03,960 --> 00:40:04,759 Speaker 2: on the field, he's good. 908 00:40:04,920 --> 00:40:07,479 Speaker 1: Oh he's been yeah, great when he plays weird career. 909 00:40:07,880 --> 00:40:11,440 Speaker 1: Jamison Crowder kind of the same thing. When he's fine. 910 00:40:11,760 --> 00:40:14,200 Speaker 2: Shepherd's more dynamic at least when on their best days. 911 00:40:14,520 --> 00:40:17,560 Speaker 2: I'd rather do renfro or even Voyd probably over. 912 00:40:18,960 --> 00:40:19,520 Speaker 1: Osborne. 913 00:40:20,719 --> 00:40:28,080 Speaker 2: Osborne and Westbrook Keene are nice consolation prize not difference makers. 914 00:40:28,200 --> 00:40:31,040 Speaker 2: But if they're your fourth and you draft one high, 915 00:40:32,040 --> 00:40:34,200 Speaker 2: I get it. They're valuable contributors. 916 00:40:34,520 --> 00:40:36,120 Speaker 1: Donovan People's Jones. 917 00:40:37,719 --> 00:40:39,200 Speaker 2: Still be in that mold too. I think he plays 918 00:40:39,360 --> 00:40:40,160 Speaker 2: special teams too. 919 00:40:40,280 --> 00:40:43,640 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, got uh. 920 00:40:43,960 --> 00:40:44,839 Speaker 2: I know what's his face? 921 00:40:45,040 --> 00:40:47,400 Speaker 1: Pure? You want pure speed in the slot? Ques Watkins. 922 00:40:48,280 --> 00:40:52,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, Well, these guys will be out there a week 923 00:40:52,520 --> 00:40:52,839 Speaker 2: from now. 924 00:40:52,960 --> 00:40:54,959 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean that's basically what you're looking at here. 925 00:40:55,320 --> 00:40:57,920 Speaker 2: And I just think they probably have a plan in place. 926 00:40:58,239 --> 00:41:00,359 Speaker 1: Something. There's something in the works. 927 00:41:00,480 --> 00:41:02,239 Speaker 2: There's something in the works. I mean you can't go 928 00:41:02,400 --> 00:41:03,200 Speaker 2: this baron at that. 929 00:41:03,280 --> 00:41:05,560 Speaker 1: Position with its two guys, not in today's NFL. 930 00:41:05,680 --> 00:41:08,200 Speaker 2: Like it's getting late in the process for that, you know. 931 00:41:08,440 --> 00:41:10,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, So we'll see what happens with with the remainder, 932 00:41:11,040 --> 00:41:13,040 Speaker 1: with with the rest of that. But something's going to happen. 933 00:41:13,080 --> 00:41:16,040 Speaker 1: We're gonna get to a break. He is the Matt Williamson. 934 00:41:16,080 --> 00:41:18,040 Speaker 1: I'm Dale Lawlly. You're listening to the drive here on 935 00:41:18,120 --> 00:41:21,400 Speaker 1: Steelers Nation Radio. We'll be back with more right after this. 936 00:41:26,440 --> 00:41:29,840 Speaker 1: Steeler fans, you can gear up with the latest sideline apparel, 937 00:41:29,880 --> 00:41:34,200 Speaker 1: hats or jerseys of your favorite players, authentic memorabilia, custom items, 938 00:41:34,280 --> 00:41:37,239 Speaker 1: and exclusives you can only find directly from the team 939 00:41:37,719 --> 00:41:39,520 Speaker 1: and one of the official Steelers pro shops. They are 940 00:41:39,560 --> 00:41:42,600 Speaker 1: located to deck Reser Stadium, Grove City Premium Outlets, or 941 00:41:42,719 --> 00:41:46,160 Speaker 1: Tanger Outlets, or you can visit online at shop dot 942 00:41:46,239 --> 00:41:47,160 Speaker 1: Steelers dot com. 943 00:41:48,760 --> 00:41:50,560 Speaker 2: New jersey's gonna be available somewhat soon here. 944 00:41:50,800 --> 00:41:52,720 Speaker 1: Did you see the video? By the way of Russell 945 00:41:52,719 --> 00:41:55,359 Speaker 1: Wilson put out video of him opening up his new 946 00:41:55,440 --> 00:41:58,399 Speaker 1: Steelers number three jersey, So it's it's official. He's going 947 00:41:58,440 --> 00:41:59,239 Speaker 1: to wear number three. 948 00:41:59,400 --> 00:42:01,799 Speaker 2: Ye I didn't it happened, though. 949 00:42:01,840 --> 00:42:04,239 Speaker 1: I can't remember any threes for the Steelers that. 950 00:42:04,640 --> 00:42:07,240 Speaker 2: I remember them. I wanted them to draft Philip Rivers 951 00:42:07,280 --> 00:42:12,080 Speaker 2: and give him a three. Three Rivers I'm saying, but 952 00:42:12,200 --> 00:42:13,279 Speaker 2: the betting thing worked out a right. 953 00:42:13,480 --> 00:42:16,120 Speaker 1: I guess jeffreed War three. There we go. That's I'm 954 00:42:16,160 --> 00:42:17,160 Speaker 1: not good with those things. 955 00:42:17,560 --> 00:42:18,160 Speaker 2: You're better than me. 956 00:42:18,360 --> 00:42:20,239 Speaker 1: Like there are people out there that you know that 957 00:42:20,840 --> 00:42:24,000 Speaker 1: the all time? Yeah, that's that that that's not. 958 00:42:24,120 --> 00:42:29,040 Speaker 2: A common number. Yeah, no quarterbacks. I remember Landy Jones, Okay, 959 00:42:29,320 --> 00:42:29,960 Speaker 2: did he switch? 960 00:42:31,600 --> 00:42:33,640 Speaker 1: Uh? No? I think lander who did War three the 961 00:42:33,800 --> 00:42:34,239 Speaker 1: entire time? 962 00:42:34,320 --> 00:42:34,560 Speaker 2: Yeah? 963 00:42:35,040 --> 00:42:37,120 Speaker 1: And I guess Brad Wing War three last year? 964 00:42:37,680 --> 00:42:38,160 Speaker 2: Fair enough? 965 00:42:38,280 --> 00:42:42,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, but you got that. The first number three in 966 00:42:42,320 --> 00:42:45,920 Speaker 1: Steelers history was the great Maury Bray. Do you remember him? 967 00:42:46,040 --> 00:42:48,240 Speaker 1: I do not. I was nineteen thirty five. 968 00:42:49,680 --> 00:42:50,160 Speaker 2: Good player. 969 00:42:50,480 --> 00:42:52,360 Speaker 1: I don't know what he did where he played. 970 00:42:52,840 --> 00:42:55,680 Speaker 2: And then if their numbering back then was like you 971 00:42:55,760 --> 00:42:57,759 Speaker 2: get one, you get two, you get three, you get four, 972 00:42:58,000 --> 00:42:58,880 Speaker 2: just whenever you show up. 973 00:42:58,960 --> 00:43:03,160 Speaker 1: You know, maybe Bill Dudley War three in nineteen forty two. 974 00:43:04,480 --> 00:43:06,680 Speaker 2: I know they don't retire numbers, but I mean it's 975 00:43:06,719 --> 00:43:07,759 Speaker 2: a retiable number. 976 00:43:07,880 --> 00:43:09,160 Speaker 1: He's kind of a big deal. He's in the Hall 977 00:43:09,160 --> 00:43:12,920 Speaker 1: of Fame. Yeah, yeah, I mentioned you have Landry Jones, 978 00:43:13,000 --> 00:43:17,640 Speaker 1: Chris Brown, War three not bad so Jeff Reed, Mark 979 00:43:17,760 --> 00:43:19,359 Speaker 1: Royal's War three. I didn't remember that one. 980 00:43:19,480 --> 00:43:21,719 Speaker 2: No, I would have got that one. Yeah, I don't. 981 00:43:23,239 --> 00:43:26,719 Speaker 1: And Ron Stark. So it's been largely upon pers and 982 00:43:26,800 --> 00:43:28,960 Speaker 1: kickers of quarter three. But you know they'll be the 983 00:43:29,480 --> 00:43:31,359 Speaker 1: quarterback now wearing that number three. 984 00:43:32,000 --> 00:43:34,359 Speaker 2: Nice for the Steelers, Okay, yeah, I bet they saw 985 00:43:34,440 --> 00:43:37,000 Speaker 2: some of those jerseys, I would think. So I'm excited 986 00:43:37,040 --> 00:43:39,080 Speaker 2: about that more and more. It's not just because I'm 987 00:43:40,280 --> 00:43:42,200 Speaker 2: you know, going back on my thoughts on the guy. 988 00:43:42,280 --> 00:43:45,520 Speaker 2: It's just a proud athlete that had his ego knocked 989 00:43:45,560 --> 00:43:47,400 Speaker 2: down a little bit. I think is a scary thing, 990 00:43:47,600 --> 00:43:50,160 Speaker 2: you know, like back a wounded animal into a corner 991 00:43:50,239 --> 00:43:53,680 Speaker 2: type situation. He may not be a good player, I 992 00:43:53,719 --> 00:43:55,640 Speaker 2: don't know. I mean, the game may have passed him by, 993 00:43:55,920 --> 00:43:58,080 Speaker 2: or he might rebound nicely. You know, I think he fits. 994 00:43:58,320 --> 00:44:01,120 Speaker 1: Here's the difference for me is, you know, when Denver 995 00:44:01,280 --> 00:44:05,120 Speaker 1: trades for him, Denver, which hasn't made the playoffs since 996 00:44:05,120 --> 00:44:07,400 Speaker 1: twenty fifteen, correct, you want to talk about this, Well, 997 00:44:07,440 --> 00:44:09,879 Speaker 1: the Steelers haven't won a playoff game. They haven't made 998 00:44:09,920 --> 00:44:11,520 Speaker 1: the playoffs since twenty five. 999 00:44:11,560 --> 00:44:13,319 Speaker 2: Denver's not thought of in that light nearly enough. 1000 00:44:13,400 --> 00:44:16,600 Speaker 1: No, And Denver, by the Way, for a long long 1001 00:44:16,719 --> 00:44:19,880 Speaker 1: time is one of the premier AFC franchises. 1002 00:44:19,920 --> 00:44:22,279 Speaker 2: Oh elway to Manning. Oh yeah, yeah, they go to 1003 00:44:22,320 --> 00:44:24,879 Speaker 2: super Bowls and win divisions and right yeah, tough places 1004 00:44:24,920 --> 00:44:25,200 Speaker 2: to play. 1005 00:44:25,800 --> 00:44:29,040 Speaker 1: So they've gone now a decade without making the playoffs playoffs. 1006 00:44:30,040 --> 00:44:32,200 Speaker 1: I think that they realized Peyton came in, gave it 1007 00:44:32,280 --> 00:44:36,160 Speaker 1: a year and said, you know what, our team isn't 1008 00:44:36,200 --> 00:44:36,719 Speaker 1: good enough. 1009 00:44:37,000 --> 00:44:39,719 Speaker 2: Well, they don't fit Peyton's system at all. Right. He 1010 00:44:39,920 --> 00:44:42,759 Speaker 2: is the most timing in rhythm. Get it out now, 1011 00:44:43,040 --> 00:44:46,280 Speaker 2: do exactly as I say. And I love Drew Brees. 1012 00:44:46,800 --> 00:44:49,840 Speaker 2: But like Ben and Breeze, if they would switch careers, 1013 00:44:49,920 --> 00:44:52,160 Speaker 2: both of would have been so much worse, you know 1014 00:44:52,200 --> 00:44:54,719 Speaker 2: what I mean, they were the same contemporary year Ben 1015 00:44:54,840 --> 00:44:56,520 Speaker 2: didn't play that way, he would not have fit the 1016 00:44:57,400 --> 00:45:01,440 Speaker 2: Peyton system. Thenlson's more like Ben, you know. 1017 00:45:01,520 --> 00:45:04,080 Speaker 1: I just I just think he I think Peyton looked 1018 00:45:04,080 --> 00:45:06,200 Speaker 1: at the roster and said, we're not close. 1019 00:45:06,560 --> 00:45:08,160 Speaker 2: Oh I think that's why I got hired to give 1020 00:45:08,160 --> 00:45:10,320 Speaker 2: you We're gonna make you an ob seemly rich coach. 1021 00:45:11,280 --> 00:45:13,400 Speaker 2: You have all the power in the world. He went 1022 00:45:13,440 --> 00:45:16,640 Speaker 2: out and got his lineman the first off season, and 1023 00:45:17,360 --> 00:45:18,160 Speaker 2: they're paying the price. 1024 00:45:18,280 --> 00:45:19,120 Speaker 1: Now they're blowing it up. 1025 00:45:19,200 --> 00:45:20,000 Speaker 2: Now they're blowing it up. 1026 00:45:20,080 --> 00:45:20,279 Speaker 1: Yeah. 1027 00:45:20,280 --> 00:45:21,640 Speaker 2: I think Wilson trade killed them. 1028 00:45:21,640 --> 00:45:23,200 Speaker 1: I think he came in, he looked at and said, yeah, 1029 00:45:23,239 --> 00:45:26,120 Speaker 1: this isn't going to He gave it the year basically, 1030 00:45:26,760 --> 00:45:28,319 Speaker 1: and he says, you know what, this isn't gonna work. 1031 00:45:28,320 --> 00:45:29,920 Speaker 1: We're gonna get rid of Russe Wilson. We're gonna get 1032 00:45:29,960 --> 00:45:32,719 Speaker 1: rid of Justin Simmons. We're gonna they just blow all 1033 00:45:32,760 --> 00:45:34,640 Speaker 1: this guy. We got to We got a clear cap 1034 00:45:34,680 --> 00:45:36,279 Speaker 1: space so I get my guys in here, so I 1035 00:45:36,320 --> 00:45:38,160 Speaker 1: can get what I want to do in here, because 1036 00:45:38,680 --> 00:45:40,080 Speaker 1: it's all about my system. 1037 00:45:40,120 --> 00:45:42,960 Speaker 2: He's one of those guys percent what he is and 1038 00:45:43,000 --> 00:45:46,359 Speaker 2: Wilson doesn't fit it at all. And even he made 1039 00:45:46,400 --> 00:45:48,600 Speaker 2: little moves he got like Troutman from the Saints and 1040 00:45:48,800 --> 00:45:51,399 Speaker 2: a couple of his dude, little Jordan Humphrey, little things 1041 00:45:51,520 --> 00:45:54,239 Speaker 2: like that. And I think they're gonna end up with 1042 00:45:54,239 --> 00:45:56,839 Speaker 2: bo Nicks because bow Knicks will paint by numbers. Yeah, 1043 00:45:56,960 --> 00:45:59,960 Speaker 2: you know, and it worked. I mean it worked tremendously 1044 00:46:00,080 --> 00:46:02,879 Speaker 2: well Drew Brees, you know. So Wilson's not a fit 1045 00:46:02,920 --> 00:46:07,320 Speaker 2: there at all. Steelers historically have more leeway with ad libbing, 1046 00:46:07,440 --> 00:46:09,840 Speaker 2: doing what you want. You know, we'll see how it works. 1047 00:46:09,920 --> 00:46:12,160 Speaker 2: But that was not a system fit at all. 1048 00:46:12,400 --> 00:46:15,520 Speaker 1: No, So I just think that played more into a factor. 1049 00:46:17,280 --> 00:46:21,479 Speaker 1: Wilson wasn't good two years ago. No, but nobody would 1050 00:46:21,480 --> 00:46:23,440 Speaker 1: have been good two years ago. That was a miserable 1051 00:46:23,520 --> 00:46:25,240 Speaker 1: That was a horrible marriage. 1052 00:46:25,640 --> 00:46:28,400 Speaker 2: Yes, Oh, I think they was playing for an offensive coordinator, 1053 00:46:28,480 --> 00:46:29,080 Speaker 2: not a head coach. 1054 00:46:29,239 --> 00:46:29,439 Speaker 1: Yeah. 1055 00:46:29,760 --> 00:46:31,720 Speaker 2: And I think Wilson came in there by all accounts 1056 00:46:31,760 --> 00:46:34,160 Speaker 2: and thought he was better than he was. And you know, 1057 00:46:34,239 --> 00:46:38,440 Speaker 2: I'm king of the castle here, and that's not the 1058 00:46:38,520 --> 00:46:40,160 Speaker 2: player he is not. No, he's not. 1059 00:46:40,520 --> 00:46:42,640 Speaker 1: And I don't think that the Steelers are going to 1060 00:46:42,680 --> 00:46:45,440 Speaker 1: be asking him to be the engine. No. 1061 00:46:45,680 --> 00:46:47,239 Speaker 2: I think they're going to say, we need you to 1062 00:46:47,320 --> 00:46:48,840 Speaker 2: make six throws, we need you. 1063 00:46:48,840 --> 00:46:51,000 Speaker 1: To be a facilitator, we need you to be what 1064 00:46:51,360 --> 00:46:52,680 Speaker 1: what Roethlisberger was. 1065 00:46:52,880 --> 00:46:55,200 Speaker 2: When he used to hand it to John Marshawn Lynch. 1066 00:46:55,239 --> 00:46:57,680 Speaker 1: We need you to be late career Ben Roethlisberger here, 1067 00:46:57,800 --> 00:46:59,720 Speaker 1: make us four or five big throws a game. 1068 00:46:59,680 --> 00:47:02,279 Speaker 2: Yeah, or early career Russ. Yeah, I mean that's where 1069 00:47:02,280 --> 00:47:04,080 Speaker 2: he had his most success. Probably handing the ball off 1070 00:47:04,160 --> 00:47:07,600 Speaker 2: with a good defense, make some plays. He won't make 1071 00:47:07,640 --> 00:47:09,920 Speaker 2: as many with his legs. The wow Mahomes plays as 1072 00:47:09,960 --> 00:47:12,000 Speaker 2: he did back then. But he's smarter now too, Yeah, 1073 00:47:12,000 --> 00:47:14,200 Speaker 2: you know, and he takes care of the football, cut 1074 00:47:14,239 --> 00:47:15,959 Speaker 2: down the sacks a little bit, throw in the middle 1075 00:47:16,040 --> 00:47:19,160 Speaker 2: field more than you have. Still make those wild throws 1076 00:47:19,200 --> 00:47:21,439 Speaker 2: down the sidelines. Nowhere to go with the football. Don't 1077 00:47:21,480 --> 00:47:22,160 Speaker 2: turn the ball over. 1078 00:47:23,040 --> 00:47:24,239 Speaker 1: You win a lot of games. Yeah. 1079 00:47:24,320 --> 00:47:27,600 Speaker 2: Yeah. Scramble for twenty twenty five yards a game, we'll 1080 00:47:27,640 --> 00:47:29,399 Speaker 2: take it. Yeah, it's a lot better than what they've 1081 00:47:29,400 --> 00:47:31,560 Speaker 2: got the last couple of years. Yeah. Throw for close 1082 00:47:31,600 --> 00:47:33,480 Speaker 2: to thirty touchdowns like that's unheard of. 1083 00:47:36,400 --> 00:47:39,040 Speaker 1: But I think that's the idea here and so and. 1084 00:47:39,000 --> 00:47:40,160 Speaker 2: I think they're going to try to get him his 1085 00:47:40,280 --> 00:47:43,520 Speaker 2: type of receivers. Yeah, you know, it's not that Deonta 1086 00:47:43,640 --> 00:47:45,760 Speaker 2: wouldn't be bad for it. It would be bad for anybody. 1087 00:47:45,880 --> 00:47:48,479 Speaker 2: But I think they want bigger bodies that'll block, that'll 1088 00:47:48,520 --> 00:47:51,160 Speaker 2: go downfield and be physical, go up and get jump balls, you. 1089 00:47:51,160 --> 00:47:53,520 Speaker 1: Know, absolutely, we got to get to another break. That's 1090 00:47:53,560 --> 00:47:55,400 Speaker 1: going to do it for our number one of the 1091 00:47:55,480 --> 00:47:57,840 Speaker 1: drive here on Steelers Nation Radio. We'll be back for 1092 00:47:57,960 --> 00:48:00,080 Speaker 1: our number two right after that. This