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Speaker 2: They prohibit you from being able to speak freely, but

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Speaker 1: You know, he's working with the government. Well, you have

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Speaker 2: You know, I know people give him some kind of props.

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Speaker 2: You know, I beat him up, took his gun. But

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Speaker 2: my thing is, if that was true, if you asked me,

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Speaker 2: Like if I beat you up and take your gun

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Speaker 3: Are shock man.

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Speaker 1: Officially, I just had a patrol hip hop opinions an

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Speaker 1: unfortunate situations, rockers or whatever, and took it straight jeury

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Speaker 3: You said that Rob actually took his fake Jerry.

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Speaker 1: Well, you know he used to wear a lot of

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Speaker 1: fake jury. Well, the first thing he used to do

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Speaker 1: he got his own No, bro, no, no, this is

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Speaker 3: You can't.

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Speaker 1: You know, I'm an innovator and creator. You know, if

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Speaker 1: you look at Joe, Joe's a copier. No. I tached

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Speaker 1: hours later, Complex getting up this fact said they wanted it,

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Speaker 1: pull up wo He got snuffed by whole tag. He ran,

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Speaker 1: Matt Hawker who starts podcasting about me while I'm doing

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Speaker 1: my trial, just lying on me about a whole bunch

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Speaker 1: be And then next thing I know, he was inviting

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Speaker 1: He don't come outside because I said, what did this

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Speaker 3: Dude?

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Speaker 1: Because out of everything you told him, you had to

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Speaker 1: leave something else because he's highly confident talking about me,

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Speaker 1: So you had to leave a part of my destruction

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Speaker 1: like me because you feel like I have my and

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Speaker 1: your girls. This is the issue here to death exactly

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Speaker 1: my old loan.

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Speaker 2: Look okay, okay, you know is up there and stuck

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Speaker 2: that when it's up there, man, it's stuck there. Shut

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Speaker 2: it was going on, bro, what you got going? Look quick, man,

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Speaker 2: it's all good. It's always all good.

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Speaker 3: Can you hit me good, y'all?

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Speaker 1: Can you clear? All right? Ben?

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Speaker 1: Yo.

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Speaker 3: We got tax Stone.

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Speaker 2: For those of you that don't know, tax Stone is

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Speaker 2: someone that was promitted in this game, still is promitted

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Speaker 2: Today we're gonna get into a little bit of that

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Speaker 2: and catch up with text. He's a pioneer in his space,

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Speaker 2: what's going on?

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Speaker 1: Bro?

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Speaker 2: Man, I'm blessed. Bro, I'm blessed. I'm more mother blessing.

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Speaker 2: I've ever been man checking in with you.

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Speaker 2: You know I've been meaning to tap in with you

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Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, show and so and something.

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Speaker 2: It's always something, Bro, what what what's your status right now?

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Speaker 3: With your case and things of that nature. And for

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Speaker 1: I was locked up over every really seventeen twenty seventeen,

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Speaker 1: I got set thirty five years in New York State.

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Speaker 1: Sometimes it's September or gun charge of round twenty two

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Speaker 3: I'm saying, you said, you go, you go to sentences?

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Speaker 1: Charge that I haven't was related to the state case.

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Speaker 2: Nothing was the over damn So because I got a

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Speaker 1: Basically it's like they said that you touched the gun before,

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Speaker 1: system and police that racism. So who's the majority of

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Speaker 1: She put the video the other day and she said,

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Speaker 1: he should be able to pick his gun back up.

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Speaker 1: And that's the god on the truth. But they not

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Speaker 3: Damn dude. That's a you know.

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Speaker 2: And I imagine a lot of people fighting through that

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Speaker 3: It's weird, man.

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Speaker 2: But so even if you come back on the pill

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Speaker 1: Yeah said thirty five years in the state.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, So if you come back on the pill on that,

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Speaker 3: how does that?

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Speaker 1: How does that going home? I don't be going home

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Speaker 1: because it doesn't affect the possession of the federal courts

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that makes sense. I was listening to you.

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Speaker 2: You know you've been up on spaces man. I just

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Speaker 1: Man. What the reason I did spaces because I heard

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Speaker 1: Yet I can't trust it, So I'm gonna start doing spaces.

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Speaker 3: Doing yeah, but you know, I think you you you

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Speaker 2: It's a play though I get it one hundred percent

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Speaker 2: Not that they don't need to be had, but I

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Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 1: I think, well, you know, it's like it's like it's

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Speaker 1: can't moderate it. You can say only I'm gonna talk, right, well,

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Speaker 1: these two people talk, Just let everybody listen and then

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Speaker 2: When I see I see you on it, I understand

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Speaker 2: you've been down ten years. Your voice is still your voice, right,

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Speaker 2: know that's an outlet for you. But then when I

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Speaker 2: some is like I don't be getting it, Like I

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Speaker 1: This is why you get to act with your fans.

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Speaker 1: Those wasn't his friend Yeah, you don't know the people.

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Speaker 1: These are people that like his music. They like his music.

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Speaker 1: He just invites him to the house, you know what

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Speaker 1: I mean, Like he doesn't he doesn't know those people

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Speaker 1: You know. Oh, I think what his brother once signed

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Speaker 3: I think, I wonder. I don't know how long you

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Speaker 2: But he's always like you said, he was already in

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Speaker 2: fans of him, to be as around him because he

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Speaker 2: he still was Joe Budden.

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Speaker 1: You know, Yeah he had a record you had basically

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Speaker 3: Shot right, So he did this and you did this

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Speaker 1: Yeah, he was known over the on me in his

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Speaker 1: I'm visiting his character as a man, as a man,

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Speaker 1: I think as a man, I think I think he

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Speaker 1: was wanting to booth. Oh you know what I mean.

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Speaker 1: But you should just understand that you take with you

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Speaker 1: but you know there was people with this is was chilling.

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Speaker 1: The only time he had thrice towards anyone when they're

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Speaker 1: the negos, right until he was on the red carpet, right, Yes,

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Speaker 1: towards all points until he seen them. He only had

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Speaker 2: Only Yeah, we see I think you know, yo, bro,

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Speaker 2: I know about them dudes man like crazy. But here

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Speaker 2: here's the thing, right, I believe he can speak too.

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Speaker 2: I believe he can podcast. That's you know, I take

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Speaker 2: him to be a talkative guy to be sitting around

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Speaker 1: Like he's educated in music. He's not educated in anything else.

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Speaker 1: He's educated in music. He has blood, right, that's still

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Speaker 1: he doesn't no politics, he don't common sit.

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Speaker 2: But you know, I still think that being that inner

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Speaker 2: I understand the community building side of it, right, because

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Speaker 3: Like like you owe him, or like you know, like

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Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying, I don't know. It's just

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Speaker 3: it's just a weird in arena.

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Speaker 1: It's it's a it's a strategy. It is a strategy

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Speaker 1: that works for Joe. Joe grew up on the internet, right,

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Speaker 1: He's always been an Internet dude, right, And just as

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Speaker 1: I said, if you look, if if Joe was a

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Speaker 1: say of us arena, he does like a slow place,

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Speaker 1: like they have a star ballom because he's so to

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Speaker 1: active with his things. Those three thousand people will come

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Speaker 1: see it, right, you know what I mean. And a

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Speaker 1: lot of people don't know how to do that. And

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Speaker 1: that's a gift did he has. He's literally like Wally

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Speaker 1: all those people's stands in it like these these are

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Speaker 1: not dudes. But he like and felt like, Yo, this

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Speaker 1: you're a producer, you do beats No Jesus, dude, that

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Speaker 1: actually was a thing of him, and kept reaching out

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Speaker 1: with them. The thing is that he kept them in

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Speaker 3: Yeah that's crazy though, but see my thing is with the.

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Speaker 1: Joe Button Show. But you can't do Joe Button don't

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Speaker 1: without going to Sree. Right, this is why he always

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Speaker 1: needs company. Cast started, I made this podcast. Later it

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Speaker 2: I think he at some point he tried to phase

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Speaker 2: out and he'll dump all of them. Man, it may

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Speaker 3: Also, I'll say this too.

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Speaker 1: To me.

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Speaker 2: You know, like I've been watching Joe Budden the last

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Speaker 2: The last couple of episodes I watched, I said, it

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Speaker 2: seems like some some times that he's paying for a

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Speaker 2: live audience, you know, like those people there are not

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Speaker 3: Them being there and laughing and saying things.

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Speaker 2: But like you said, when he goes one on one

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Speaker 2: that granted, that is what podcasting is, but you know,

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Speaker 2: I think that it says something when you can crank

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Speaker 2: interested like I did my whole career like that you

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Speaker 1: You know, I think she could actually do an interview

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Speaker 1: with somebody on one on one three that's and I

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Speaker 1: think he knows that, and this is why he keeps

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Speaker 1: got to keep one hundred Like he got y'all ron

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Speaker 1: one hundred deep. I'll be like scared of death a

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so you don't think.

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Speaker 2: You don't think that, You don't think the one on

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Speaker 2: one interviews he do are like with NICKI Minad like

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Speaker 1: It's dirt, you know, just like you said him, he

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Speaker 1: needs the company to feed on him. The dudes like

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Speaker 1: officially icing him to have to hear the ballcasing, you know,

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Speaker 1: or the Joe, but the show officially Ice has to

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Speaker 1: control hip hop opinions. Like when I first got on Twitter,

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Speaker 1: he was one of the most popular people on Twitter

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Speaker 1: talking about hip hop Yeah, but this is more unfortunate

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Speaker 1: situations from or whatever, and took straight jewelry from him

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Speaker 1: like that. But so that's why he said and he

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Speaker 3: You said that because Rob ically took his fake Jerry.

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Speaker 1: But you know I used to wear a lot of

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Speaker 1: fake jewelry. Well, the first thing he used to do

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Speaker 1: he got all no bro, no bro, no, this is

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Speaker 3: No truth, No, bro, you can't just you know.

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Speaker 1: Like he was being you know what I mean. And

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Speaker 1: that's where he basically got known from being on the internet.

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Speaker 1: People thought this dude was being let I thought he

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Speaker 1: certain certain people, you know what I mean, like me

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Speaker 1: Like he's a cool dude, but he got he got

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Speaker 1: the music. Opinions like I'll be respecting when officially I

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Speaker 1: start problem. Yeah, got some Bob, But.

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Speaker 3: Man, we know this is more than just opinions, right,

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Speaker 3: this is more. You're gonna have more than just opinions.

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Speaker 2: To really be a tycoon in the game or to

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Speaker 2: be to be a person of notoriety. Right, And when

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Speaker 2: I look at him, do not get him confused. He

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Speaker 2: done tried to branch off and I don't know if

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Speaker 2: the numbers was numbering. You see what I'm saying, like, yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 2: he don't win it. Done something with Caffeine, went and

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Speaker 2: done something with Twitch.

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Speaker 3: See, they secret secretly do it because.

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Speaker 2: They not like us when it comes to I'm coming

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Speaker 2: on that with this, whatever you do, I'm hustling, you

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Speaker 2: know what I'm saying. If they ain't doing that, they

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Speaker 2: trying to keep their profile up because they now over

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Speaker 2: they're thinking about profile, you know what I'm saying. But

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Speaker 2: when he when he went to Caffeine man, he rarely

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Speaker 2: even mentioned it when.

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Speaker 1: He was on.

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Speaker 3: When he was on Joe Budden Show. And for me,

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Speaker 3: that says so much.

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Speaker 2: Right for you to be able to run some of

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Speaker 2: your audience over there, for you, for you get a

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Speaker 2: chance to re up, because we all know they'll give

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Speaker 2: you a bag. These numbers ain't numbering. You don't get

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Speaker 2: no more money, you know what I'm saying. But he's tried,

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Speaker 2: so this is more than opinions. But I think that's interesting.

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Speaker 2: What the made you think that I thought he would

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Speaker 1: You know what Twitter went at first? Like when I

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Speaker 3: Like sure I'm saying saying this ship? Was he saying,

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Speaker 1: Bro, he I think he had listen. I'm not I'm

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Speaker 1: not for sure. He might have had a shake be

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Speaker 1: I think it was Frety beating mepics and and ship.

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Speaker 1: He was always uptil beating up a lot, so it

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Speaker 1: was like people kind of thought he was affiliated with them.

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Speaker 1: So I guess that's how he gained his identity on

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Speaker 2: Okay, So now I understand why they say love Jez

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Speaker 2: and all it is maybe he's is he is he thinking?

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Speaker 3: He like yo, this is that's a for me nigga.

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Speaker 3: I ain't nigga what.

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Speaker 1: But you know, for each his own like everybody like

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Speaker 1: I'm not gonna say everybody because I'm not really into

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Speaker 1: the mask worlder, you know what I mean. But a

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Speaker 1: lot of people come out the house kind of act

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Speaker 1: like other people. Yeah, Bro, I think he actually found

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Speaker 3: How is niggas?

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Speaker 2: I'm saying respectful at ice, cause I don't got no

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Speaker 2: problem with him, but for him to be on there

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Speaker 2: now screaming I be in the house, Joe Buddenham kind

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Speaker 3: That when he was young, How the fuck did he

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Speaker 3: go from that to his identity?

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Speaker 1: Was?

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Speaker 3: I was in BMF. How the Internet ain't saying that

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Speaker 3: that's not known information? Bro, I don't. I didn't even

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00:23:59,680 --> 00:24:01,720
Speaker 3: know that that, bro, And I'm from the South and

442
00:24:01,800 --> 00:24:02,560
Speaker 3: I'm one of them men.

443
00:24:02,680 --> 00:24:05,920
Speaker 2: For real, I didn't know that. You know, I don't

444
00:24:05,960 --> 00:24:08,399
Speaker 2: know what that's about. That's some crazy ship for me

445
00:24:08,520 --> 00:24:13,439
Speaker 2: to hear, Like that's deep. Yeah, that's that's that's crazy

446
00:24:13,520 --> 00:24:13,720
Speaker 2: for me.

447
00:24:13,880 --> 00:24:19,080
Speaker 1: But bro, the way I my vision, when I look

448
00:24:19,119 --> 00:24:24,080
Speaker 1: at these people, they don't even exist. Like it's like

449
00:24:24,359 --> 00:24:26,879
Speaker 1: like I don't know how it's played, you know what

450
00:24:26,920 --> 00:24:30,280
Speaker 1: I mean? Like and that's why when when they want

451
00:24:30,400 --> 00:24:33,680
Speaker 1: certain people patient to me, I'll be like, bro, I

452
00:24:33,720 --> 00:24:37,480
Speaker 1: would never speak to you like I wouldn't know you

453
00:24:38,920 --> 00:24:41,240
Speaker 1: like I do some Joe Budden songs like like I

454
00:24:41,359 --> 00:24:43,280
Speaker 1: used to look with something his freestyles because the nigga

455
00:24:43,320 --> 00:24:46,440
Speaker 1: aught to rap. But my thing is this, you can't

456
00:24:46,480 --> 00:24:49,879
Speaker 1: fool on cabulary with intellect. So when I see this

457
00:24:50,040 --> 00:24:52,520
Speaker 1: bigga like man good as a raper, I realize, Yo,

458
00:24:52,680 --> 00:24:55,879
Speaker 1: he just has no cavalry. He that smart, he's not

459
00:24:56,040 --> 00:24:58,360
Speaker 1: that shock. He always got to fuck with a young

460
00:24:58,440 --> 00:25:02,720
Speaker 1: ass bitch that affects worker like. It's not one girl

461
00:25:02,720 --> 00:25:04,879
Speaker 1: that he's had. It's not on the internet telling them

462
00:25:04,920 --> 00:25:07,680
Speaker 1: type of course of York everything. He ain't had one

463
00:25:07,760 --> 00:25:13,520
Speaker 1: bitch that like you're good with the computer, not one.

464
00:25:13,680 --> 00:25:15,959
Speaker 1: Now you go down head listen, it's whose sex workers.

465
00:25:16,320 --> 00:25:20,080
Speaker 1: And my man had just told me. He was like, yo, yo,

466
00:25:20,200 --> 00:25:23,680
Speaker 1: this bad drink from igb hitting me up. And I'm like,

467
00:25:23,760 --> 00:25:25,920
Speaker 1: oh lord, what y'all talking about whatever? He was like, Nah,

468
00:25:26,000 --> 00:25:28,920
Speaker 1: sure he's talking about you want to birken, she'll come

469
00:25:29,000 --> 00:25:30,680
Speaker 1: see me in jail. I said, I said, you willing

470
00:25:30,760 --> 00:25:33,960
Speaker 1: to bout her a birken and come see me, so

471
00:25:34,040 --> 00:25:37,880
Speaker 1: I said, my nigga, he's a sex worker, so anybody

472
00:25:37,960 --> 00:25:40,840
Speaker 1: could bother her. It's like a shoe. You go to

473
00:25:40,880 --> 00:25:43,480
Speaker 1: the store, you by the shoe. So that's nothing to

474
00:25:43,560 --> 00:25:47,480
Speaker 1: brand about it. Show me the girl that don't sell sex.

475
00:25:48,040 --> 00:25:50,399
Speaker 1: He's convinced that you was cute and you was a

476
00:25:50,480 --> 00:25:55,120
Speaker 1: smooth talker and she liked the head what that girl?

477
00:25:55,600 --> 00:25:58,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, because half of the in that game, half of

478
00:25:58,880 --> 00:26:03,560
Speaker 2: their job is to infla your ego anyway. You know,

479
00:26:03,640 --> 00:26:06,359
Speaker 2: they gonna tell you you they guy youself, you speak

480
00:26:06,480 --> 00:26:09,560
Speaker 2: so nice and smell so good because you got some

481
00:26:09,640 --> 00:26:10,480
Speaker 2: money on the table.

482
00:26:11,080 --> 00:26:11,800
Speaker 3: That's part of it.

483
00:26:12,840 --> 00:26:15,080
Speaker 1: Listen if you if you would have looked, if you

484
00:26:15,200 --> 00:26:19,440
Speaker 1: see that the episode when I when I git Joe

485
00:26:19,480 --> 00:26:22,160
Speaker 1: Button out the studio, I told him, I said, I'm

486
00:26:22,200 --> 00:26:25,680
Speaker 1: not one of them thirdworld puntry ventures that you fuck

487
00:26:25,760 --> 00:26:27,840
Speaker 1: with that you could just use these big words with

488
00:26:28,040 --> 00:26:30,040
Speaker 1: and they're gonna sit there and think it's true because

489
00:26:30,040 --> 00:26:34,000
Speaker 1: they don't know what the words right. I'm not that personal.

490
00:26:34,160 --> 00:26:37,679
Speaker 1: So he needs that. He has to deal with peabody

491
00:26:37,800 --> 00:26:41,800
Speaker 1: woman use women ain't come on, bro, give them an

492
00:26:41,840 --> 00:26:47,200
Speaker 1: academic testager see what they store. They ain't that right right,

493
00:26:48,320 --> 00:26:52,200
Speaker 1: there's no no fucking it's no coincidence that every girl

494
00:26:52,280 --> 00:26:54,200
Speaker 1: that you've had in the public since we known you

495
00:26:54,960 --> 00:26:58,159
Speaker 1: is some form of sex worker, you know what I mean.

496
00:26:59,359 --> 00:27:01,720
Speaker 1: So told me a nigga tweeted the other day, I

497
00:27:01,800 --> 00:27:04,960
Speaker 1: think tweet. He was like, damn, nobody fuck with Joe Butlers.

498
00:27:05,960 --> 00:27:11,520
Speaker 1: I said, show up. How the niggas talk about.

499
00:27:14,200 --> 00:27:17,840
Speaker 2: Like, yeah, you and so you, Yeah, you've been in

500
00:27:17,920 --> 00:27:20,600
Speaker 2: that damn man. So, what what do you think about

501
00:27:20,760 --> 00:27:25,200
Speaker 2: Charlemagne and Joe Budden's like ship? What you know, sometimes

502
00:27:25,240 --> 00:27:27,600
Speaker 2: they have I won't call it a beef. Charlomagne is

503
00:27:27,680 --> 00:27:29,440
Speaker 2: my brother. He don't look at it like a beef,

504
00:27:29,560 --> 00:27:33,160
Speaker 2: but there's something. What do you think about their relationship

505
00:27:33,359 --> 00:27:34,359
Speaker 2: Charlomagne and Joe.

506
00:27:34,240 --> 00:27:38,119
Speaker 1: Budden don't I don't really know what the relationship is.

507
00:27:38,200 --> 00:27:40,680
Speaker 1: I'm being honest, like, I don't really be asking Charlamagne

508
00:27:40,880 --> 00:27:42,920
Speaker 1: ship like that. But what I do know is that

509
00:27:43,960 --> 00:27:48,200
Speaker 1: Joe is like jealous a little bit from charlom Mary.

510
00:27:48,720 --> 00:27:51,359
Speaker 1: We feel like the Breakfast squad makes him look a

511
00:27:51,440 --> 00:27:54,240
Speaker 1: certain way or they might jump on hivy. You know,

512
00:27:54,359 --> 00:27:59,680
Speaker 1: He's not to say certain jokes too Conley, He's gonna

513
00:28:00,119 --> 00:28:02,040
Speaker 1: want to combat it. So I think that's the way

514
00:28:02,080 --> 00:28:04,760
Speaker 1: this thing is with Charlamagne and.

515
00:28:07,840 --> 00:28:09,520
Speaker 3: So now here.

516
00:28:12,200 --> 00:28:16,639
Speaker 2: Right, yeah, yeah, but here here's the thing. So they

517
00:28:16,760 --> 00:28:19,960
Speaker 2: used to do content together. There was a clear relationship.

518
00:28:20,119 --> 00:28:23,440
Speaker 2: Something happened at the Spotify situation. I talked to Charlemagne

519
00:28:23,480 --> 00:28:26,400
Speaker 2: about it on my podcast, so he spoke a little

520
00:28:26,440 --> 00:28:29,359
Speaker 2: bit about, you know, kind of where he believes it

521
00:28:29,480 --> 00:28:33,359
Speaker 2: comes from. Where they just that the relationship is separated.

522
00:28:34,040 --> 00:28:41,480
Speaker 2: But it's interesting because if we're being honest, I don't know, though, Man,

523
00:28:41,560 --> 00:28:43,760
Speaker 2: what do you what do you think about it? Did

524
00:28:43,800 --> 00:28:45,560
Speaker 2: you ever see any of those Ends of the Year

525
00:28:45,640 --> 00:28:47,600
Speaker 2: shows that they did and ship together? Like, what do

526
00:28:47,680 --> 00:28:50,240
Speaker 2: you think about content when they do content together? I'm

527
00:28:50,240 --> 00:28:52,160
Speaker 2: trying to think, do it really hit? I know it's

528
00:28:52,200 --> 00:28:54,840
Speaker 2: too big, audiences, it's massive.

529
00:28:54,960 --> 00:28:59,280
Speaker 1: I can't really speak on it honestly because I don't

530
00:28:59,360 --> 00:29:03,000
Speaker 1: like boss, which I really don't speak on right, I

531
00:29:03,040 --> 00:29:05,400
Speaker 1: don't really like broadcasts. I listened to some clips and

532
00:29:05,480 --> 00:29:08,160
Speaker 1: get the substance of it. I got a short attentions

533
00:29:08,200 --> 00:29:10,320
Speaker 1: stand so listening a whole hour and a half and

534
00:29:10,440 --> 00:29:15,040
Speaker 1: something that's like really interesting and I'm not really interested

535
00:29:15,080 --> 00:29:18,160
Speaker 1: in music, like I like it, like we can talk

536
00:29:18,160 --> 00:29:20,080
Speaker 1: about some ship real fast, but then it'd be like,

537
00:29:20,280 --> 00:29:23,560
Speaker 1: all right, bus after you rap and shit like that.

538
00:29:24,160 --> 00:29:26,200
Speaker 1: Not for me. And it's not that it ain't for me.

539
00:29:26,400 --> 00:29:29,760
Speaker 1: I just don't feel I had substance the way songs

540
00:29:29,800 --> 00:29:32,800
Speaker 1: are such a stick for years later. Were just singing

541
00:29:32,880 --> 00:29:35,040
Speaker 1: Rodny Rick song the other day, I think some new

542
00:29:35,200 --> 00:29:37,920
Speaker 1: thuge he's on the jet. I'll say, yeah, that's a

543
00:29:38,000 --> 00:29:40,360
Speaker 1: good feeling record. That's she's gonna be playing the barbecues.

544
00:29:40,400 --> 00:29:44,240
Speaker 2: TV is from that, right, yeah, I mean so it's

545
00:29:44,280 --> 00:29:46,640
Speaker 2: like you like, I mean, I'm the same way I don't.

546
00:29:47,000 --> 00:29:48,960
Speaker 2: I don't really consume a lot of music in my

547
00:29:49,080 --> 00:29:53,480
Speaker 2: conversations or anything. Don't really surround music a lot. But

548
00:29:53,680 --> 00:29:56,840
Speaker 2: because we're in podcasting right, when I look at Charlemagne

549
00:29:57,000 --> 00:29:59,800
Speaker 2: and Joe and them doing content, I'm looking at how

550
00:29:59,880 --> 00:30:01,600
Speaker 2: much money that that could be made.

551
00:30:02,120 --> 00:30:06,000
Speaker 3: But I'm wondering was it was the juice worth to squeeze?

552
00:30:06,080 --> 00:30:06,840
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying.

553
00:30:06,880 --> 00:30:09,280
Speaker 2: But you you see you you maybe you may be

554
00:30:09,400 --> 00:30:11,600
Speaker 2: having soul any of it, or or you like you said,

555
00:30:11,600 --> 00:30:14,640
Speaker 2: and not pay attention to it. But for me, I

556
00:30:14,800 --> 00:30:17,120
Speaker 2: wonder just always look at shit and wonder what it

557
00:30:17,160 --> 00:30:19,800
Speaker 2: is worth. Like sometimes I wonder if you was out,

558
00:30:20,240 --> 00:30:21,160
Speaker 2: what would you do?

559
00:30:21,360 --> 00:30:24,000
Speaker 3: What what we can do? What that's worth? Like it's

560
00:30:24,040 --> 00:30:26,440
Speaker 3: so much money on the table. You dig what I'm saying.

561
00:30:26,520 --> 00:30:28,120
Speaker 3: So I'm always the.

562
00:30:28,200 --> 00:30:30,840
Speaker 1: For I'm an innovator and creator. You know, if you

563
00:30:30,920 --> 00:30:34,400
Speaker 1: look at Joe, Joe's a copier, you know what I mean.

564
00:30:34,560 --> 00:30:38,960
Speaker 1: Like dun leader ship, right, you know. I started to

565
00:30:39,040 --> 00:30:42,840
Speaker 1: show what I tached to show the bike Slane. I

566
00:30:42,920 --> 00:30:45,720
Speaker 1: pitch you the complex a couple of backball and they

567
00:30:45,800 --> 00:30:49,000
Speaker 1: all do it. My producer was like, oh, what are

568
00:30:49,000 --> 00:30:50,760
Speaker 1: we gonna do? I said, We're still gonna shoot it.

569
00:30:51,600 --> 00:30:54,440
Speaker 1: And after we shoot it, we're gonna shot it back

570
00:30:54,480 --> 00:30:57,000
Speaker 1: to the niggas. Because you are a number. You're talking

571
00:30:57,080 --> 00:30:59,040
Speaker 1: to a whole bunch of people that don't have bision.

572
00:31:00,200 --> 00:31:02,360
Speaker 1: If your third eye is blind and you don't understand

573
00:31:02,960 --> 00:31:06,400
Speaker 1: and know how to take the person's words and visualize it,

574
00:31:06,680 --> 00:31:10,600
Speaker 1: you're always gonna think it's bullet. So I said, we're

575
00:31:10,640 --> 00:31:13,640
Speaker 1: gonna shoot this ship. We shot it, We sent it

576
00:31:13,720 --> 00:31:17,440
Speaker 1: the Complex, we sent to the vice Lander. Two hours later,

577
00:31:17,600 --> 00:31:20,600
Speaker 1: Complex keeping up his back, said they wanted it. We

578
00:31:20,760 --> 00:31:23,320
Speaker 1: ended up locking him a Complex and Vice Laying hit

579
00:31:23,400 --> 00:31:26,240
Speaker 1: me up the next day and they wanted it, but

580
00:31:26,400 --> 00:31:28,360
Speaker 1: we was already locked in and it was called the

581
00:31:28,440 --> 00:31:32,240
Speaker 1: Pull Up Attack thone. I only got to shoot one episode.

582
00:31:32,320 --> 00:31:35,240
Speaker 1: I did it with data from Atlanta. It's on YouTube.

583
00:31:36,480 --> 00:31:38,880
Speaker 1: I go to jail a couple of months later and

584
00:31:39,000 --> 00:31:42,520
Speaker 1: Joe Button had a Joe called the pull Up Whoa,

585
00:31:44,200 --> 00:31:48,920
Speaker 1: and I'm like, okay. Then getting mad, I just was like, oh,

586
00:31:50,160 --> 00:31:53,080
Speaker 1: he's copying me again, you know what I mean, because

587
00:31:53,080 --> 00:31:56,120
Speaker 1: he has an a tendency anytime somebody brings me up.

588
00:31:56,160 --> 00:31:58,280
Speaker 1: He'd be like, Oh, he's no one, but he always

589
00:31:58,320 --> 00:32:01,760
Speaker 1: talking about me, right, No, I'm someone I always re

590
00:32:01,880 --> 00:32:04,320
Speaker 1: threat to you. You get a million followers. When I

591
00:32:04,400 --> 00:32:08,240
Speaker 1: first seen you, you still got a million followers, and

592
00:32:08,960 --> 00:32:11,479
Speaker 1: I was still doing over up maybe eighty thousand more

593
00:32:11,600 --> 00:32:15,360
Speaker 1: views than you ever, you know what I mean? So

594
00:32:15,880 --> 00:32:19,000
Speaker 1: I listen. I used to tweet this post out for

595
00:32:19,160 --> 00:32:22,719
Speaker 1: MTV two put out and they just basically just like, yo,

596
00:32:22,800 --> 00:32:28,360
Speaker 1: who has the best podcast at the time, And I

597
00:32:28,520 --> 00:32:33,479
Speaker 1: was like, yo, oh matter fi, I'm got the majority

598
00:32:33,520 --> 00:32:36,120
Speaker 1: of the vote. There was me drink Champs. I named

599
00:32:36,160 --> 00:32:40,680
Speaker 1: this podcast Lady Elliott Wilson and the reason I posted

600
00:32:41,640 --> 00:32:44,440
Speaker 1: recently was because he was talking about how I wasn't shit.

601
00:32:45,200 --> 00:32:47,880
Speaker 1: I'm like, no, you could say I'm not shipping now

602
00:32:48,000 --> 00:32:53,720
Speaker 1: I've been going for eight years. Yeah, outside you couldn't.

603
00:32:53,760 --> 00:32:55,760
Speaker 1: You couldn't talk about a podcast with out here in

604
00:32:55,840 --> 00:32:59,400
Speaker 1: my name. You couldn't present your podcast without somebody saying, yo,

605
00:32:59,520 --> 00:33:00,520
Speaker 1: do what about pack star.

606
00:33:00,680 --> 00:33:04,320
Speaker 3: That's a fact, that's a whole like I wasn't.

607
00:33:04,120 --> 00:33:08,040
Speaker 1: Stepping on your knee. The people voted that, two too

608
00:33:08,080 --> 00:33:10,440
Speaker 1: tweeted that, and it was only about because you see

609
00:33:10,440 --> 00:33:12,520
Speaker 1: at the bottom of the Polish only like sixty hundred

610
00:33:12,560 --> 00:33:16,160
Speaker 1: people voted. But how do I end up eighty percent

611
00:33:16,200 --> 00:33:21,520
Speaker 1: of the vote out of all of y'all? So don't

612
00:33:21,600 --> 00:33:23,719
Speaker 1: try to the little need that make it seem like, oh,

613
00:33:23,840 --> 00:33:26,400
Speaker 1: he wasn't doing you. I just came out of prison.

614
00:33:26,880 --> 00:33:29,240
Speaker 1: I started podcasting, and I was doing a long shows

615
00:33:29,280 --> 00:33:31,440
Speaker 1: with fifteen hundred people pulling up listen.

616
00:33:31,280 --> 00:33:34,680
Speaker 2: To me talk, right, And that's what I'm telling niggas,

617
00:33:34,760 --> 00:33:38,040
Speaker 2: and that that's the that's the blueprint, right. So what

618
00:33:38,240 --> 00:33:40,440
Speaker 2: I like about it and how I'm building man is

619
00:33:40,520 --> 00:33:43,120
Speaker 2: the same way whereas like be able to hold this

620
00:33:43,320 --> 00:33:46,240
Speaker 2: thing down by yourself, man, you know what I'm saying,

621
00:33:46,360 --> 00:33:48,600
Speaker 2: you and one person if you got a guess, but

622
00:33:48,720 --> 00:33:50,880
Speaker 2: if not be able to crank up and have some

623
00:33:50,960 --> 00:33:53,640
Speaker 2: shit to you know, pulling to the coach. I think

624
00:33:53,680 --> 00:33:56,680
Speaker 2: a lot of these niggas just be talking. But yeah, nah,

625
00:33:56,760 --> 00:34:02,520
Speaker 2: that's crazy, bro, that's yo, Bro, that's wild man like that.

626
00:34:03,120 --> 00:34:07,320
Speaker 2: How do you feel when he be saying like you're you're,

627
00:34:07,400 --> 00:34:11,320
Speaker 2: you're irrelevant and ship like that, Like do you feel.

628
00:34:11,120 --> 00:34:16,800
Speaker 1: It about that? First of all, what's irrelevant irrelevant is

629
00:34:17,200 --> 00:34:20,359
Speaker 1: to you? But how could a person be irrelevant if

630
00:34:20,400 --> 00:34:22,879
Speaker 1: his names only be a mouth. That's like me saying

631
00:34:22,920 --> 00:34:25,879
Speaker 1: here irrelevant. He can't be irrelevant. I'm always talking about

632
00:34:25,920 --> 00:34:30,160
Speaker 1: the niggah. So it's like, let's be honest. So it's

633
00:34:30,280 --> 00:34:32,279
Speaker 1: like you can say whatever you want to say. Your

634
00:34:32,400 --> 00:34:35,000
Speaker 1: issue with me is that I'm such a strong thought

635
00:34:35,040 --> 00:34:37,359
Speaker 1: that I've been down for eight years and I still

636
00:34:37,440 --> 00:34:40,359
Speaker 1: say something there, Bob, break your yeah.

637
00:34:40,800 --> 00:34:44,680
Speaker 3: And you know what, when when I think about podcasting,

638
00:34:44,800 --> 00:34:49,200
Speaker 3: really it was you him nor New York was cluttered

639
00:34:49,280 --> 00:34:49,920
Speaker 3: for a minute.

640
00:34:50,600 --> 00:34:52,920
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, He really got it by itself.

641
00:34:52,960 --> 00:34:55,880
Speaker 2: Because Charlemagne ain't a podcaster. He's a mogul.

642
00:34:56,440 --> 00:34:58,799
Speaker 3: So he really got it by itself when he come

643
00:34:58,920 --> 00:35:00,120
Speaker 3: to partcas As.

644
00:35:00,160 --> 00:35:03,000
Speaker 2: The noise is in Florida. Now, you know what I'm saying,

645
00:35:03,080 --> 00:35:06,360
Speaker 2: you're no longer there. It's really now just Joe Butden

646
00:35:06,440 --> 00:35:09,359
Speaker 2: running around. You know, when y'all all was up there,

647
00:35:09,600 --> 00:35:12,719
Speaker 2: he can feel that pressure. The pressure was on you

648
00:35:12,800 --> 00:35:14,640
Speaker 2: know what I'm saying. It's a different thing now.

649
00:35:18,680 --> 00:35:21,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, So that's basically what it is. The nigga's a

650
00:35:21,239 --> 00:35:24,759
Speaker 1: wayn Yeah, I know they. I just don't respect men

651
00:35:24,840 --> 00:35:27,440
Speaker 1: who always got something to say about somebody. When you

652
00:35:27,520 --> 00:35:29,400
Speaker 1: see them, it's a whole different speech.

653
00:35:30,640 --> 00:35:34,040
Speaker 3: So it's like, well you ca they you know, they

654
00:35:34,080 --> 00:35:36,280
Speaker 3: said you had got him punched out? What's that about?

655
00:35:36,400 --> 00:35:39,880
Speaker 1: Man? I didn't get that nigga punched out somebody. Just

656
00:35:40,320 --> 00:35:43,719
Speaker 1: that was a thing. The nigga DM then told me

657
00:35:43,840 --> 00:35:45,719
Speaker 1: he was like, yo, I just sumped your button in

658
00:35:45,760 --> 00:35:49,040
Speaker 1: the club. Yeah. I was like, well, he was like, yeah,

659
00:35:49,040 --> 00:35:50,799
Speaker 1: I've been fucking with your ship for years. I said,

660
00:35:50,840 --> 00:35:52,239
Speaker 1: all right, thank you, two thumbs up.

661
00:35:56,400 --> 00:36:02,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's funny. That's funny. He get active though, but.

662
00:36:02,560 --> 00:36:04,640
Speaker 1: Heah, but you don't look at it. This is the

663
00:36:04,680 --> 00:36:07,000
Speaker 1: same character. You gotta listen to what this guy says.

664
00:36:08,280 --> 00:36:12,120
Speaker 1: He got snuffed ball who ran, He got snuffed by

665
00:36:12,840 --> 00:36:16,400
Speaker 1: comedy ran. He got snuffed by this guy in the club.

666
00:36:17,120 --> 00:36:20,560
Speaker 1: He fought two seconds and then he decided to run.

667
00:36:22,040 --> 00:36:24,359
Speaker 1: This guy runs his mouth and he runs a lot.

668
00:36:24,600 --> 00:36:26,239
Speaker 3: He ran in the club that night.

669
00:36:27,239 --> 00:36:30,520
Speaker 1: He ran and didn't even have to. It was a

670
00:36:30,640 --> 00:36:35,800
Speaker 1: straight visible hand altercation. So that was my issue with

671
00:36:35,880 --> 00:36:38,120
Speaker 1: him because he told me I was running from a

672
00:36:38,200 --> 00:36:40,560
Speaker 1: nigga that had a done on me. I said, I

673
00:36:40,640 --> 00:36:42,200
Speaker 1: thought you were supposed to run when a nigga got

674
00:36:42,239 --> 00:36:42,480
Speaker 1: a gun.

675
00:36:42,719 --> 00:36:44,520
Speaker 3: Fuck you telling me you?

676
00:36:46,320 --> 00:36:48,760
Speaker 1: I thought that was stating operating procedure.

677
00:36:49,200 --> 00:36:50,120
Speaker 3: Cold and conduct.

678
00:36:50,239 --> 00:36:53,439
Speaker 1: Man. So I'm like, if you're running from niggas with fish,

679
00:36:53,480 --> 00:36:54,799
Speaker 1: what the fuck are you gonna do with a nigga?

680
00:36:54,800 --> 00:37:00,120
Speaker 1: Pull a gune out with you, brother? Yeah, you he

681
00:37:00,239 --> 00:37:01,240
Speaker 1: just dont himself.

682
00:37:01,280 --> 00:37:03,359
Speaker 3: He never like he fought that night though he had

683
00:37:03,400 --> 00:37:06,799
Speaker 3: a broke hand and no he he he didn't have.

684
00:37:06,840 --> 00:37:09,880
Speaker 1: No broken He fucked that dude for two seconds. He

685
00:37:09,960 --> 00:37:12,759
Speaker 1: didn't need ahead of Actually, my man said, Yo, he

686
00:37:12,840 --> 00:37:15,880
Speaker 1: looked kind of good. Now, I will tell you somebody

687
00:37:15,920 --> 00:37:20,800
Speaker 1: he's brought. He fought big bets, which is Nicky Minaj's security.

688
00:37:22,360 --> 00:37:27,560
Speaker 1: Now what I did for his image? I tweeted out

689
00:37:29,200 --> 00:37:33,120
Speaker 1: Joe Button just had a fight with Big be Well,

690
00:37:33,160 --> 00:37:35,080
Speaker 1: my man, Big these people didn't know who he was

691
00:37:35,120 --> 00:37:40,960
Speaker 1: at the Bob Dang. Big Bees told me I'll beat

692
00:37:41,040 --> 00:37:44,799
Speaker 1: up three of Joe Button's friends. I fought Joe Button last.

693
00:37:45,680 --> 00:37:48,600
Speaker 1: He said, I'm not pull along. He almost took me

694
00:37:49,760 --> 00:37:52,040
Speaker 1: because I was tired his half from beating up with

695
00:37:52,160 --> 00:37:56,319
Speaker 1: other three friends. So he's still beating the auk though,

696
00:37:57,640 --> 00:38:00,759
Speaker 1: And the dude gets on his podcast and say beat

697
00:38:00,800 --> 00:38:05,040
Speaker 1: your man ass, But why you and telling him that

698
00:38:05,280 --> 00:38:07,520
Speaker 1: when you was doing that Nicki Minaj's interview up there

699
00:38:07,520 --> 00:38:09,840
Speaker 1: and they had you on the pressure because that was

700
00:38:09,880 --> 00:38:10,600
Speaker 1: the Bees.

701
00:38:10,440 --> 00:38:14,440
Speaker 3: That had you sitting there, had sitting there.

702
00:38:14,480 --> 00:38:18,399
Speaker 1: What did you ever see podcast with Nicki Minaj first

703
00:38:18,440 --> 00:38:20,280
Speaker 1: one up Joe butten ship.

704
00:38:20,680 --> 00:38:22,920
Speaker 2: Oh when she was calling them niggas out like she

705
00:38:23,160 --> 00:38:26,280
Speaker 2: was helped there hot she was mad with the yellow

706
00:38:26,360 --> 00:38:28,680
Speaker 2: Bees Bees was there.

707
00:38:28,760 --> 00:38:30,640
Speaker 1: I was been doing that he fought that night and

708
00:38:30,840 --> 00:38:33,719
Speaker 1: you ain't saying none of that, But you get into

709
00:38:33,760 --> 00:38:36,480
Speaker 1: a passionate ran about me on the internet and you say, yeah,

710
00:38:36,520 --> 00:38:37,240
Speaker 1: and I beat.

711
00:38:37,160 --> 00:38:37,719
Speaker 4: This man up.

712
00:38:38,760 --> 00:38:39,680
Speaker 1: You talking about.

713
00:38:41,640 --> 00:38:42,839
Speaker 3: Mmmm, so he talking.

714
00:38:45,080 --> 00:38:50,319
Speaker 1: Yeah, we talking about right, but you know he's gonna

715
00:38:50,320 --> 00:38:51,560
Speaker 1: see big bees and change the.

716
00:38:51,560 --> 00:38:55,239
Speaker 3: Story because he didn't. He wasn't specific.

717
00:38:55,360 --> 00:38:57,480
Speaker 2: That's what you mean when you say you got vocabulary,

718
00:38:57,560 --> 00:38:58,879
Speaker 2: play with the words and ship.

719
00:38:59,200 --> 00:39:00,719
Speaker 3: I didn't say exactly.

720
00:39:00,560 --> 00:39:05,160
Speaker 1: Worn semantic juniors, right, but these know that's what he

721
00:39:05,280 --> 00:39:08,480
Speaker 1: was talking about. Because who else you talking about? You

722
00:39:08,520 --> 00:39:09,839
Speaker 1: ain't never fought nobody else?

723
00:39:09,880 --> 00:39:15,480
Speaker 2: I know, right when when you talk about when you

724
00:39:15,600 --> 00:39:18,320
Speaker 2: talk about your case at this point, can it affect anything?

725
00:39:20,040 --> 00:39:23,600
Speaker 1: Well, I still haven't really discussed my case. You know.

726
00:39:23,719 --> 00:39:26,560
Speaker 1: The only story people know is whatever a boy said

727
00:39:26,560 --> 00:39:30,520
Speaker 1: on twenty interviews, Right, you know what I mean. It's

728
00:39:30,640 --> 00:39:32,759
Speaker 1: I'm not a liberty legal lead to do it. You

729
00:39:32,840 --> 00:39:33,279
Speaker 1: know what I mean?

730
00:39:33,600 --> 00:39:36,800
Speaker 5: When I fight, my case is in court, so you know,

731
00:39:37,719 --> 00:39:39,359
Speaker 5: And that was my issue with a lot of these

732
00:39:39,480 --> 00:39:45,360
Speaker 5: podcasters as far as the math pop was academics and

733
00:39:45,760 --> 00:39:48,440
Speaker 5: just I said recently, I said, I was so happy.

734
00:39:48,160 --> 00:39:53,720
Speaker 1: To see academics catch that sexual charge. And the reason

735
00:39:53,840 --> 00:39:56,879
Speaker 1: is is because when mean time somebody bought a case,

736
00:39:57,000 --> 00:40:02,840
Speaker 1: you was highly opinionated all kinds of fake shit, nothing

737
00:40:03,000 --> 00:40:05,160
Speaker 1: is real, and it could affect these people in court

738
00:40:06,120 --> 00:40:08,360
Speaker 1: and you weren't mindful of it. But now that you

739
00:40:08,520 --> 00:40:11,520
Speaker 1: have a chase, the media should talk about your chase

740
00:40:11,680 --> 00:40:15,120
Speaker 1: every day. But you should know how it feels. Cause

741
00:40:15,560 --> 00:40:21,279
Speaker 1: I don't think academics, right, nobody, but what do I know? Right?

742
00:40:21,480 --> 00:40:24,080
Speaker 1: Let's keep discussing it, though, because you know how it

743
00:40:24,160 --> 00:40:27,799
Speaker 1: feels when somebody accuses you of something and you feel like, yo,

744
00:40:27,880 --> 00:40:31,320
Speaker 1: I didn't even do that, but you sitting there stowing

745
00:40:31,400 --> 00:40:32,759
Speaker 1: everything negative about it.

746
00:40:34,200 --> 00:40:37,839
Speaker 3: Yeah, and not only that, you assuming, and a lot

747
00:40:37,920 --> 00:40:39,240
Speaker 3: of it you're speculating.

748
00:40:39,719 --> 00:40:42,360
Speaker 1: So you're going you're not going off stock.

749
00:40:42,520 --> 00:40:45,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, they're breaking it down and going all in the

750
00:40:45,120 --> 00:40:49,040
Speaker 2: muddy waters and make somewhere in there say allegedly or

751
00:40:49,360 --> 00:40:52,400
Speaker 2: I don't really know. But you're discussing this shit in length,

752
00:40:52,960 --> 00:40:55,879
Speaker 2: and this shit clearly can affect the minds of people

753
00:40:55,960 --> 00:40:59,000
Speaker 2: that have to digest the information of these cases.

754
00:40:59,160 --> 00:41:01,360
Speaker 3: You know what I mean? So it can swaye people.

755
00:41:01,280 --> 00:41:05,160
Speaker 1: Man, exactly. And that's the thing. So like you got

756
00:41:05,280 --> 00:41:07,920
Speaker 1: to do like man Hoka who starts podcasting about me

757
00:41:07,960 --> 00:41:11,439
Speaker 1: while I'm doing my trial, just lying on me about

758
00:41:11,440 --> 00:41:14,319
Speaker 1: a whole bunch of stuff, and his whole he could

759
00:41:14,360 --> 00:41:18,239
Speaker 1: never tell nobody what his vis. He can't say, yo,

760
00:41:18,960 --> 00:41:23,239
Speaker 1: be for tax your beef for taxes that you did

761
00:41:23,280 --> 00:41:28,760
Speaker 1: a video asking you are around to suspend the battle rapers,

762
00:41:28,840 --> 00:41:34,040
Speaker 1: she jumped, let's set in return. This dude is posted.

763
00:41:34,960 --> 00:41:38,600
Speaker 1: He walked around bully in the whole bat place, beating

764
00:41:38,640 --> 00:41:43,400
Speaker 1: everybody up, and he didn't want to be suspended. But

765
00:41:43,560 --> 00:41:45,719
Speaker 1: the moment niggas put hands on you, you want them

766
00:41:45,719 --> 00:41:50,520
Speaker 1: to suspended. It's your plot was whatever it was. And

767
00:41:50,600 --> 00:41:52,320
Speaker 1: then next thing I know, he was inviting me to

768
00:41:52,400 --> 00:41:57,200
Speaker 1: his block. I come to the door block, he don't

769
00:41:57,239 --> 00:42:00,759
Speaker 1: come outside. So now all of that rappers use that

770
00:42:00,840 --> 00:42:03,080
Speaker 1: against him, and now he's trying to make it seem

771
00:42:03,160 --> 00:42:06,279
Speaker 1: like we have some wining, deeper beetle than we had.

772
00:42:07,760 --> 00:42:10,120
Speaker 1: So I'm sitting here trying to find out one day

773
00:42:11,239 --> 00:42:14,239
Speaker 1: why he said something about my family like oh, you know,

774
00:42:14,920 --> 00:42:18,160
Speaker 1: like like niggas can't get to his family, and that

775
00:42:18,320 --> 00:42:23,160
Speaker 1: was such a confidence statement and blazing because not too

776
00:42:23,200 --> 00:42:25,239
Speaker 1: many people know who my family is. So I was

777
00:42:25,360 --> 00:42:28,880
Speaker 1: sitting back like that was like that was called the

778
00:42:28,960 --> 00:42:31,319
Speaker 1: crazy I love you right, And then what I did

779
00:42:31,560 --> 00:42:36,279
Speaker 1: was I paid a private investigator to follow him. And

780
00:42:36,400 --> 00:42:40,200
Speaker 1: then I then found at that moment that the girl

781
00:42:40,239 --> 00:42:43,799
Speaker 1: that he deals with now is a friend of mine

782
00:42:43,960 --> 00:42:48,080
Speaker 1: for many years, a many years. This is my friend,

783
00:42:50,200 --> 00:42:54,000
Speaker 1: no no sense. I probably was eleven years old, Jennet

784
00:42:54,040 --> 00:42:57,520
Speaker 1: the girls in the videos with him, and it just

785
00:42:57,600 --> 00:42:59,239
Speaker 1: broke my heart because I said, what did this girl

786
00:42:59,360 --> 00:43:03,600
Speaker 1: tell us, dude? Because out of everything you told that,

787
00:43:03,760 --> 00:43:06,440
Speaker 1: you had to leave something else because he's highly confident

788
00:43:06,600 --> 00:43:09,759
Speaker 1: talking about me, so you had to leave apart my

789
00:43:09,840 --> 00:43:18,200
Speaker 1: description outright. It bothered me because it's like, oh, you

790
00:43:18,320 --> 00:43:21,120
Speaker 1: don't like me because you feel like I had my

791
00:43:21,280 --> 00:43:25,799
Speaker 1: big and your girl ass. This is the issue here.

792
00:43:27,400 --> 00:43:29,360
Speaker 1: You know that your girl like a rob dick with

793
00:43:29,440 --> 00:43:31,759
Speaker 1: her and you feel like she might have did it

794
00:43:31,840 --> 00:43:37,040
Speaker 1: to me, so you you want to keep coming at me. Bro,

795
00:43:37,239 --> 00:43:39,759
Speaker 1: I don't even got no beef with you. Don't got

796
00:43:39,800 --> 00:43:43,400
Speaker 1: no beef with that girl. Even had an argument with

797
00:43:43,480 --> 00:43:49,440
Speaker 1: that girl. So I was confused. So now you might.

798
00:43:49,560 --> 00:43:52,399
Speaker 1: I know this girl's whole family still follow some of them,

799
00:43:53,840 --> 00:43:56,520
Speaker 1: and I'm sitting there like, yo, what did Jita do?

800
00:43:58,120 --> 00:44:02,719
Speaker 1: What did she stay to this dude? And Jenna was

801
00:44:02,800 --> 00:44:06,319
Speaker 1: in jail and I see to her sister. She said,

802
00:44:06,360 --> 00:44:09,399
Speaker 1: I'm not talking to her right now, and I said

803
00:44:09,719 --> 00:44:11,880
Speaker 1: what is she doing in jail? She said, oh, she

804
00:44:12,000 --> 00:44:15,080
Speaker 1: was working somewhere in did some fraud with the jail whatever.

805
00:44:16,680 --> 00:44:18,839
Speaker 1: I don't know this door for being like this even

806
00:44:18,920 --> 00:44:20,800
Speaker 1: going to jail. So I was coming to hurt flud.

807
00:44:21,800 --> 00:44:25,080
Speaker 1: Want to do the letter, I said, Yo, when you

808
00:44:25,160 --> 00:44:28,120
Speaker 1: come home or got you? I the flowing out. She

809
00:44:28,239 --> 00:44:32,520
Speaker 1: was coming home on flor a month so a lie.

810
00:44:32,560 --> 00:44:35,759
Speaker 1: I was like, Dad, JENNI probably coming home right. She

811
00:44:35,840 --> 00:44:40,439
Speaker 1: had a fat ass, he's pretty. So today she comes home,

812
00:44:42,120 --> 00:44:44,000
Speaker 1: she comes to me and I give her some beans.

813
00:44:44,080 --> 00:44:46,560
Speaker 1: You know. I gave her the bands out of my

814
00:44:46,719 --> 00:44:49,360
Speaker 1: pocket and then whenever bands I get to have in

815
00:44:49,480 --> 00:44:51,359
Speaker 1: my pocket. I took her to the bank and took

816
00:44:51,400 --> 00:44:54,640
Speaker 1: it out the ATM. And she told me that day,

817
00:44:54,760 --> 00:44:57,960
Speaker 1: she said, I love him so much because none of

818
00:44:58,040 --> 00:45:03,000
Speaker 1: my friends, no nobody in my family, no brother, no sister,

819
00:45:04,160 --> 00:45:09,279
Speaker 1: get anything from me. So we see him standing there

820
00:45:09,320 --> 00:45:11,320
Speaker 1: with this dude that has so much to say about me.

821
00:45:12,000 --> 00:45:18,640
Speaker 3: I'm like, Dane, Yeah, but you know what so I

822
00:45:18,760 --> 00:45:19,960
Speaker 3: think you're speaking about.

823
00:45:20,120 --> 00:45:25,240
Speaker 2: Because I did find this interesting is that when Math

824
00:45:25,719 --> 00:45:29,480
Speaker 2: had those interviews with Troyl, he would say stuff like

825
00:45:30,120 --> 00:45:34,520
Speaker 2: an enemy of my enemy is my friend and your

826
00:45:34,600 --> 00:45:39,880
Speaker 2: scenario with Troy alf especially at that time, was totally

827
00:45:39,960 --> 00:45:43,000
Speaker 2: different than your scenario with math Hoffler. That was pretty

828
00:45:43,080 --> 00:45:48,719
Speaker 2: much some internet shit that that's what I'm saying, that's.

829
00:45:48,640 --> 00:45:50,200
Speaker 1: What you want to call me. You want to earn

830
00:45:50,239 --> 00:45:52,719
Speaker 1: me as an enemy. That's kind of fucked up. I

831
00:45:52,800 --> 00:45:55,400
Speaker 1: think you should just continue your career and take me

832
00:45:55,520 --> 00:46:01,680
Speaker 1: off that list. Yeah. Nah, I don't want to be

833
00:46:01,800 --> 00:46:04,239
Speaker 1: his enemy. You want to be my enemy is just

834
00:46:04,320 --> 00:46:05,799
Speaker 1: because that's what duds in the dude.

835
00:46:06,880 --> 00:46:09,279
Speaker 2: But I think when he was interviewing him at that time,

836
00:46:10,000 --> 00:46:12,200
Speaker 2: I think that was more that was more so his

837
00:46:13,280 --> 00:46:16,000
Speaker 2: his his outlook on it is like, Yo, me and

838
00:46:16,160 --> 00:46:17,240
Speaker 2: this dude got problems.

839
00:46:17,280 --> 00:46:19,920
Speaker 3: You and that dude got problems. I'm gonna sit you there.

840
00:46:20,000 --> 00:46:22,000
Speaker 3: But you know, like you're saying, I.

841
00:46:22,040 --> 00:46:25,319
Speaker 1: Expect that birds of a feather flock together, but they

842
00:46:25,440 --> 00:46:29,520
Speaker 1: also get plucked together too, and we love chicken over there,

843
00:46:30,120 --> 00:46:33,120
Speaker 1: so it's like, no tears about them types of dudes,

844
00:46:33,200 --> 00:46:37,040
Speaker 1: quicken up. We expect that. I'm seeing a photo one

845
00:46:37,160 --> 00:46:43,160
Speaker 1: time on the internet all the rappad and like seven

846
00:46:43,280 --> 00:46:48,040
Speaker 1: dudes I've had problems with. They was all together, right,

847
00:46:48,440 --> 00:46:51,399
Speaker 1: and a female was underneath the comment and she said

848
00:46:52,280 --> 00:46:56,080
Speaker 1: only people who know tax with nobody's picture is the

849
00:46:56,160 --> 00:47:00,800
Speaker 1: funniest picture in the world because taxes viole, lady, every

850
00:47:00,880 --> 00:47:04,759
Speaker 1: single one of them, right, And they trying to form

851
00:47:04,800 --> 00:47:11,200
Speaker 1: the Avengers. And I'm like, damn, look at me, professor,

852
00:47:11,320 --> 00:47:14,239
Speaker 1: exciting in a wheelchair with all these people trying to

853
00:47:14,320 --> 00:47:14,560
Speaker 1: get me.

854
00:47:17,440 --> 00:47:18,920
Speaker 3: Yo, that's crazy.

855
00:47:20,360 --> 00:47:22,040
Speaker 1: Now, So why won't you make it be trying to

856
00:47:22,040 --> 00:47:24,759
Speaker 1: beat him? A proople so much? Right, if you want

857
00:47:24,800 --> 00:47:28,480
Speaker 1: to make sure you take legs again, I got legs.

858
00:47:29,719 --> 00:47:32,120
Speaker 1: I got to go back to being crippled because when

859
00:47:32,160 --> 00:47:34,800
Speaker 1: I was just walking out there, y'all was cripple.

860
00:47:36,120 --> 00:47:40,080
Speaker 3: And so they prohibit you from being able to speak freely.

861
00:47:40,400 --> 00:47:41,520
Speaker 3: But he can speak.

862
00:47:43,760 --> 00:47:46,320
Speaker 1: You know, he's working with the government. Well, you have

863
00:47:46,400 --> 00:47:48,759
Speaker 1: a deal with the government. You don't have a case,

864
00:47:49,920 --> 00:47:52,960
Speaker 1: so you would talk. If I had to deal with

865
00:47:53,040 --> 00:47:54,759
Speaker 1: the government, I would have never I would have never

866
00:47:54,800 --> 00:47:57,400
Speaker 1: had to go to try So I was people and

867
00:47:57,480 --> 00:47:59,759
Speaker 1: I had people say, Yo, you think tex, don't try

868
00:48:00,040 --> 00:48:03,359
Speaker 1: it the moment you think that, you should have raced

869
00:48:03,360 --> 00:48:06,960
Speaker 1: it out your head because he would be here and

870
00:48:07,080 --> 00:48:07,600
Speaker 1: I wouldn't.

871
00:48:09,800 --> 00:48:11,239
Speaker 4: Right the end, it's that deep.

872
00:48:11,280 --> 00:48:14,359
Speaker 1: I wouldn't have to go to trial if I told

873
00:48:14,440 --> 00:48:18,040
Speaker 1: on the right it was only one.

874
00:48:17,920 --> 00:48:22,000
Speaker 2: Person that want the trial out of this incident and me, Yeah,

875
00:48:22,120 --> 00:48:25,200
Speaker 2: and you didn't use the self defense of any of.

876
00:48:25,239 --> 00:48:29,000
Speaker 1: That, Like, well, there's no self defense in New York.

877
00:48:29,480 --> 00:48:30,239
Speaker 3: There's nothing like it.

878
00:48:30,320 --> 00:48:31,680
Speaker 1: And that's why it's a horrible place.

879
00:48:32,000 --> 00:48:32,719
Speaker 3: They have some.

880
00:48:32,719 --> 00:48:36,680
Speaker 1: Shit called justifiable homicide, right, and the reason and the

881
00:48:36,760 --> 00:48:40,239
Speaker 1: way you and the way you fight it all right,

882
00:48:40,360 --> 00:48:43,719
Speaker 1: the law states that you have to prove that you

883
00:48:43,880 --> 00:48:46,759
Speaker 1: tried to retreat it. You have to prove that you

884
00:48:46,880 --> 00:48:50,879
Speaker 1: tried to call the police. Anyone has been in any

885
00:48:50,960 --> 00:48:54,839
Speaker 1: type of incident, you know that these incidents the last second, right,

886
00:48:55,320 --> 00:48:58,879
Speaker 1: So it's kind of hard to retreat sometimes, and it's

887
00:48:58,960 --> 00:49:01,440
Speaker 1: kind of hard to get to your phone to call

888
00:49:01,520 --> 00:49:06,160
Speaker 1: the police. So this is why New York is such

889
00:49:06,160 --> 00:49:11,480
Speaker 1: a dangerous place, right, because it's like you cannot protect yourself.

890
00:49:11,840 --> 00:49:14,200
Speaker 1: This is why I'm gonna be falling of moving to

891
00:49:14,280 --> 00:49:15,799
Speaker 1: a red state as soon as I get out.

892
00:49:16,800 --> 00:49:20,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's that's some interesting shit, man, that's some interesting

893
00:49:20,640 --> 00:49:23,000
Speaker 2: shit because for me, you know, when I look at

894
00:49:23,040 --> 00:49:26,279
Speaker 2: the documentaries and the think pieces that that goes on

895
00:49:26,640 --> 00:49:29,440
Speaker 2: about the night, so many people are saying that yo,

896
00:49:29,680 --> 00:49:32,160
Speaker 2: that these guys said I'm about to get off or

897
00:49:32,160 --> 00:49:34,719
Speaker 2: I'm gonna do something to him. It's like, if that

898
00:49:34,960 --> 00:49:37,680
Speaker 2: is the case, you know what I'm saying, then when

899
00:49:37,760 --> 00:49:40,879
Speaker 2: does this turn into me just trying to make sure

900
00:49:40,920 --> 00:49:42,560
Speaker 2: that they don't they don't finish me.

901
00:49:43,360 --> 00:49:45,480
Speaker 6: You know what I'm saying, listen, and no state what

902
00:49:45,600 --> 00:49:49,640
Speaker 6: I'm be in jails of the state man, he admitted

903
00:49:50,600 --> 00:49:54,000
Speaker 6: that him and the dude agreed to get at me.

904
00:49:55,080 --> 00:49:58,440
Speaker 1: He said he waked his I at him and then

905
00:49:58,719 --> 00:49:59,840
Speaker 1: done went to attack me.

906
00:50:00,080 --> 00:50:00,960
Speaker 3: That's what I'm saying.

907
00:50:01,239 --> 00:50:03,920
Speaker 2: That's to me when I heard him say that, because

908
00:50:03,960 --> 00:50:07,960
Speaker 2: he said that before, and I'm like, okay, when does

909
00:50:08,080 --> 00:50:13,520
Speaker 2: that turn into them approaching this case with that behavior

910
00:50:13,640 --> 00:50:15,920
Speaker 2: and trying to harm somebody like and that turns into

911
00:50:15,960 --> 00:50:18,520
Speaker 2: self defense? But you're saying there's no law to protect that.

912
00:50:19,680 --> 00:50:23,600
Speaker 1: There's no law like the instant we was going back

913
00:50:23,640 --> 00:50:27,080
Speaker 1: to a while. These laws are racist, right, every big

914
00:50:27,200 --> 00:50:30,920
Speaker 1: city and the municipality in the country that had too

915
00:50:31,000 --> 00:50:35,480
Speaker 1: many Democrats, they outlawed guns, and it's harder for you

916
00:50:35,560 --> 00:50:37,839
Speaker 1: to get a gunsh to call on Angelas New York.

917
00:50:39,360 --> 00:50:39,520
Speaker 4: Now.

918
00:50:39,560 --> 00:50:42,400
Speaker 1: The reason is is because we don't want these educated

919
00:50:42,440 --> 00:50:46,719
Speaker 1: blacks walking around with these guns. Right, we gonna turn

920
00:50:46,760 --> 00:50:48,120
Speaker 1: the law and a fellow in the possession of a

921
00:50:48,200 --> 00:50:52,239
Speaker 1: weapon do government for the country. Now, new York State,

922
00:50:52,640 --> 00:50:54,840
Speaker 1: you couldn't get a gun unless you can pool that

923
00:50:54,960 --> 00:50:58,040
Speaker 1: you carried every large amounts of money in your deadness.

924
00:50:59,040 --> 00:51:01,440
Speaker 1: You needed so many community people are right for you

925
00:51:01,560 --> 00:51:05,240
Speaker 1: to get a gun license. The federal government just changed

926
00:51:05,280 --> 00:51:08,640
Speaker 1: that and they brought it back to the regular gun

927
00:51:08,719 --> 00:51:12,440
Speaker 1: laws because they know that that law was racist the

928
00:51:12,920 --> 00:51:16,840
Speaker 1: Supreme Court. So now in New York you can actually

929
00:51:16,920 --> 00:51:19,239
Speaker 1: go get a gun j and that you go your

930
00:51:19,280 --> 00:51:21,839
Speaker 1: permit out and you can go get a gun. Right.

931
00:51:22,200 --> 00:51:25,480
Speaker 1: But that's what they still do not make the law

932
00:51:25,719 --> 00:51:29,360
Speaker 1: to protect the people who have the legal gun. So

933
00:51:29,560 --> 00:51:32,800
Speaker 1: meaning you have a legal gun, are guys in the

934
00:51:32,920 --> 00:51:36,080
Speaker 1: fat who tries to rob you, you turn around, shoot them.

935
00:51:37,160 --> 00:51:42,920
Speaker 1: You locked up for murder because there's no law to

936
00:51:43,040 --> 00:51:46,040
Speaker 1: protect the person who has the legal gun in New York. Fever,

937
00:51:46,880 --> 00:51:49,799
Speaker 1: not just not just the higgle with illegal gun. They

938
00:51:49,880 --> 00:51:51,759
Speaker 1: won't have the lord to protect the niggle with the

939
00:51:51,840 --> 00:51:57,640
Speaker 1: legal guns. Prosecuted distruction to say, well, he got a

940
00:51:57,719 --> 00:51:58,600
Speaker 1: legal government.

941
00:51:58,520 --> 00:52:01,640
Speaker 4: And he said that this god did that I'm bad,

942
00:52:03,640 --> 00:52:05,040
Speaker 4: and that depends on who you are.

943
00:52:05,280 --> 00:52:06,719
Speaker 3: Who does it end up on.

944
00:52:08,280 --> 00:52:12,200
Speaker 1: Exactly? Damn? You know.

945
00:52:12,320 --> 00:52:14,439
Speaker 2: And also when I hear when I hear him speak

946
00:52:14,480 --> 00:52:17,560
Speaker 2: about the case, you know, I know people give him

947
00:52:17,600 --> 00:52:19,520
Speaker 2: some kind of props. You know, I beat him up,

948
00:52:19,600 --> 00:52:22,760
Speaker 2: took his gun. But my thing is, if that was true,

949
00:52:22,880 --> 00:52:25,920
Speaker 2: if you asked me, you would have been shot. If

950
00:52:26,080 --> 00:52:29,520
Speaker 2: if if you had a team, you got a lot

951
00:52:29,600 --> 00:52:32,719
Speaker 2: of yeah, Like if I beat you up and take

952
00:52:32,760 --> 00:52:34,320
Speaker 2: your gun and you right here in front of me,

953
00:52:34,440 --> 00:52:38,640
Speaker 2: you a shot man, you know what I yeah, yeah,

954
00:52:38,840 --> 00:52:41,480
Speaker 2: So I didn't understand that part of it. I'm like, Yo,

955
00:52:42,120 --> 00:52:44,799
Speaker 2: something happened in between that, because it ain't no way

956
00:52:45,320 --> 00:52:47,120
Speaker 2: for you to say I beat him up and took

957
00:52:47,200 --> 00:52:50,400
Speaker 2: his gun, Like that's for me, it didn't make sense.

958
00:52:50,200 --> 00:52:52,240
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. So when I hear it only.

959
00:52:52,160 --> 00:52:55,120
Speaker 1: Takes one second if you think a gun out of

960
00:52:55,200 --> 00:52:57,800
Speaker 1: persons saying for you to be able to pull the right.

961
00:52:59,480 --> 00:53:03,239
Speaker 3: Yeah, shit, that's easy that you know.

962
00:53:03,719 --> 00:53:05,680
Speaker 1: That's that's just the part of a story that might

963
00:53:05,800 --> 00:53:07,840
Speaker 1: end up in the area, that might come out someday.

964
00:53:08,400 --> 00:53:11,319
Speaker 4: Right, But you know that's his story, right right.

965
00:53:11,440 --> 00:53:15,279
Speaker 2: You don't even rap right, Yeah, but I'm saying it

966
00:53:15,360 --> 00:53:17,160
Speaker 2: got to make sense too, just like when I look

967
00:53:17,200 --> 00:53:19,640
Speaker 2: at the young and they stuff like you know, they

968
00:53:19,800 --> 00:53:22,080
Speaker 2: they claiming certain stuff, and I'm like, yeah, but the

969
00:53:22,239 --> 00:53:25,000
Speaker 2: math ain't mathing if you're asking me though, some main't

970
00:53:25,480 --> 00:53:27,320
Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying, Like, I don't think no

971
00:53:27,440 --> 00:53:29,960
Speaker 2: niggas drove from three hours to do that and got

972
00:53:30,040 --> 00:53:32,680
Speaker 2: back on the road, like I don't know like that.

973
00:53:32,920 --> 00:53:35,360
Speaker 2: That don't sound good to me, but maybe it happened,

974
00:53:35,400 --> 00:53:37,359
Speaker 2: you know, I don't know. But sometimes, like you said,

975
00:53:37,400 --> 00:53:40,040
Speaker 2: the rap community, they glorified it.

976
00:53:40,239 --> 00:53:42,799
Speaker 3: That ship, and so they stand on it. I don't

977
00:53:42,840 --> 00:53:43,680
Speaker 3: really understand it.

978
00:53:45,560 --> 00:53:50,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, but you know, well, you know, Vounce's coming to

979
00:53:50,920 --> 00:53:53,640
Speaker 1: a lot of these niggas when they see the video,

980
00:53:53,719 --> 00:53:57,000
Speaker 1: it's like, oh, he was busting Histone and that's the

981
00:53:57,080 --> 00:54:02,800
Speaker 1: same way, but way once he realized that you actually

982
00:54:02,840 --> 00:54:07,239
Speaker 1: go to jail for doing it, and he's never been

983
00:54:07,280 --> 00:54:09,800
Speaker 1: to jail, so they look at me like I'm the

984
00:54:09,840 --> 00:54:12,160
Speaker 1: wrong person. Oh, this dude been in jail for violence.

985
00:54:12,600 --> 00:54:19,840
Speaker 1: This dude only been licensed as well, right, so you know,

986
00:54:20,280 --> 00:54:22,800
Speaker 1: and even being from New York, like I'm full of sures,

987
00:54:22,880 --> 00:54:25,400
Speaker 1: guys don't have a record in New York. But for

988
00:54:25,560 --> 00:54:27,120
Speaker 1: you to see that she was in the streets he

989
00:54:27,280 --> 00:54:27,440
Speaker 1: was in.

990
00:54:30,680 --> 00:54:32,600
Speaker 4: Yeah, to me, this is a police state.

991
00:54:32,920 --> 00:54:36,640
Speaker 1: New York is a police state for every fucking corner.

992
00:54:37,280 --> 00:54:43,759
Speaker 4: Yeah, and you you was doing all this, you know,

993
00:54:43,880 --> 00:54:45,400
Speaker 4: it's like you gotta be mom of it.

994
00:54:46,040 --> 00:54:49,120
Speaker 1: He says two different things. He says that I came

995
00:54:49,160 --> 00:54:53,760
Speaker 1: in there and shot every single person. The district attorney

996
00:54:53,840 --> 00:54:59,120
Speaker 1: goes with this. He says he beat the ship out me.

997
00:55:01,080 --> 00:55:08,640
Speaker 1: They go with it. My thing is he didn't junk.

998
00:55:09,520 --> 00:55:12,719
Speaker 1: It wasn't no you beating shot out me. It was

999
00:55:13,640 --> 00:55:16,800
Speaker 1: beating the shout out me. And in the midst of

1000
00:55:16,880 --> 00:55:22,920
Speaker 1: y'all beating and shout out me, y'all lost right. I

1001
00:55:23,160 --> 00:55:26,319
Speaker 1: went home and then what's a landed? The next day

1002
00:55:26,320 --> 00:55:29,520
Speaker 1: they go do the come up with dayDay and y'all said,

1003
00:55:29,560 --> 00:55:33,439
Speaker 1: Tom in the hospital, Now, how do you spend time

1004
00:55:33,480 --> 00:55:38,040
Speaker 1: in the hospital? Is where everybody's lying at. This is

1005
00:55:38,080 --> 00:55:42,680
Speaker 1: where he's doing trying to protect hisself in others. Because

1006
00:55:43,160 --> 00:55:46,560
Speaker 1: there was four DNA's on that DOUN the person who

1007
00:55:46,640 --> 00:55:56,280
Speaker 1: died and me and two unknowns bom DNA and two unknowns.

1008
00:55:56,400 --> 00:55:58,920
Speaker 1: Is only because these dudes haven't a feelings, so they

1009
00:55:58,920 --> 00:56:02,680
Speaker 1: don't have to do a right right. So how do

1010
00:56:02,880 --> 00:56:06,960
Speaker 1: y'all come to the common ground that I'm the only

1011
00:56:07,040 --> 00:56:12,560
Speaker 1: one to use this weapon right? Because it fits an arrative.

1012
00:56:13,880 --> 00:56:17,279
Speaker 1: They had to beef on the internet. His friend guy,

1013
00:56:17,480 --> 00:56:20,319
Speaker 1: he was with him, so he didn't shoot his friend.

1014
00:56:20,760 --> 00:56:25,600
Speaker 1: Hacks had to shoot his friend. Oh yeah, so this

1015
00:56:25,760 --> 00:56:30,239
Speaker 1: is what's going on. Me. I'm not from where we

1016
00:56:30,400 --> 00:56:33,959
Speaker 1: sit behind the courtroom and talk to the shoot a ms.

1017
00:56:34,680 --> 00:56:39,120
Speaker 1: I'm not from where discuss stings with the police. I'll

1018
00:56:39,160 --> 00:56:42,960
Speaker 1: discussed it with my lawyer, and I allowed a lawyer

1019
00:56:43,040 --> 00:56:47,239
Speaker 1: to fight because he's an officer of the court. You

1020
00:56:47,280 --> 00:56:50,640
Speaker 1: know what I mean. You can't hear the down, Hey kid,

1021
00:56:52,080 --> 00:56:55,279
Speaker 1: this is this dude put out a letter and said

1022
00:56:55,440 --> 00:56:59,719
Speaker 1: Tack snitched on me. When I see everybody's hitting me

1023
00:56:59,800 --> 00:57:02,560
Speaker 1: on the compute on the edge, yo, bro, niggas is saying,

1024
00:57:02,600 --> 00:57:05,560
Speaker 1: Troy a p paperwork out on you. I said, how

1025
00:57:05,600 --> 00:57:08,360
Speaker 1: the fuck did he purple work out on me? And

1026
00:57:08,480 --> 00:57:12,120
Speaker 1: the case ain't even stopped, right, I wasn't even in

1027
00:57:12,239 --> 00:57:16,240
Speaker 1: Danny day, right, so how would it be paperwork? Although

1028
00:57:16,320 --> 00:57:20,760
Speaker 1: that is a gun charge right now? So my lawyer

1029
00:57:20,840 --> 00:57:24,040
Speaker 1: put a bell assessment let in, and he said it's

1030
00:57:24,040 --> 00:57:28,000
Speaker 1: two parties involved in his crime, Roland cons which is

1031
00:57:28,200 --> 00:57:33,160
Speaker 1: Troy ad Gall Campbell, which is taxed doone. And he

1032
00:57:33,280 --> 00:57:39,000
Speaker 1: basically said, this guy is on camera shooting and he

1033
00:57:39,120 --> 00:57:43,280
Speaker 1: got caught with three guns after why does he get

1034
00:57:43,320 --> 00:57:46,720
Speaker 1: a bat and my client got hold with no guns

1035
00:57:47,760 --> 00:57:53,360
Speaker 1: and my client was never shooting on camera. There's no

1036
00:57:53,480 --> 00:57:56,200
Speaker 1: evidence of him ever shooting. How does he hang up

1037
00:57:57,400 --> 00:57:59,760
Speaker 1: with no bat? But this guy ends up with a

1038
00:57:59,800 --> 00:58:05,400
Speaker 1: bet it. This guy then says I snitched on him

1039
00:58:06,480 --> 00:58:10,680
Speaker 1: by saying he was shooting in the Knot club. Anybody

1040
00:58:10,800 --> 00:58:13,920
Speaker 1: sent you shooting in the nightclub? My nigga, you're on camera.

1041
00:58:14,480 --> 00:58:19,600
Speaker 1: Are you gonna go in court and say that's not you? Listen?

1042
00:58:19,800 --> 00:58:24,840
Speaker 1: You understand? And then you have thirty thousand sheep like,

1043
00:58:24,880 --> 00:58:28,440
Speaker 1: I only shit you, right, sir? He just told on you.

1044
00:58:29,480 --> 00:58:33,920
Speaker 1: No tell him is offering information in the criminal investigation

1045
00:58:35,080 --> 00:58:39,840
Speaker 1: on my own instormation, you understand. So I remember one

1046
00:58:39,920 --> 00:58:41,600
Speaker 1: day I got pulled over with my phone. He had

1047
00:58:41,640 --> 00:58:44,840
Speaker 1: a gun on him. He told me I don't got

1048
00:58:44,880 --> 00:58:48,360
Speaker 1: no gun on me. I came up the store with

1049
00:58:48,440 --> 00:58:51,200
Speaker 1: two Dutch Masters and the police sitting with the Dutch

1050
00:58:51,280 --> 00:58:53,080
Speaker 1: masters and said, I know y'all got weeding the car.

1051
00:58:55,120 --> 00:58:57,760
Speaker 1: When they go to search for the weed, I see

1052
00:58:57,760 --> 00:58:59,680
Speaker 1: it my man face that he might have something else

1053
00:58:59,720 --> 00:59:04,280
Speaker 1: in the all. I said, bro, what happened? He said,

1054
00:59:04,320 --> 00:59:08,000
Speaker 1: y'all got the gripping there? I said, why the fuck

1055
00:59:08,440 --> 00:59:10,360
Speaker 1: would you had the grip in the car, knowing when

1056
00:59:10,360 --> 00:59:14,320
Speaker 1: he was going to this hot ass store. You better

1057
00:59:14,440 --> 00:59:18,520
Speaker 1: let them know that that shit is yours. Because I

1058
00:59:18,680 --> 00:59:23,000
Speaker 1: turned myself in, brought a gun charge in six days, right,

1059
00:59:23,640 --> 00:59:29,280
Speaker 1: we'm blowing to prison. So the police found a gun

1060
00:59:30,560 --> 00:59:32,720
Speaker 1: and they go to him and they say he was

1061
00:59:32,760 --> 00:59:36,840
Speaker 1: the driver. They say, yo, who's gun is this? He

1062
00:59:36,920 --> 00:59:41,959
Speaker 1: said his mind? He said, who's gone? He said his mind.

1063
00:59:43,360 --> 00:59:45,040
Speaker 1: Then the dude comes to the back of the car.

1064
00:59:46,200 --> 00:59:51,120
Speaker 1: He says, mister Campbell, who's gun is this? I said,

1065
00:59:51,160 --> 00:59:54,440
Speaker 1: he just told you who gun it was, And this

1066
00:59:54,600 --> 00:59:58,800
Speaker 1: is my statement. Yeah, this nigga locked up five of

1067
00:59:58,960 --> 01:00:02,280
Speaker 1: men agains and he tells people your text tole on.

1068
01:00:04,960 --> 01:00:08,120
Speaker 1: So they shows people the statement of me saying that

1069
01:00:08,280 --> 01:00:13,000
Speaker 1: the cops he already told you what it was. So

1070
01:00:13,200 --> 01:00:14,360
Speaker 1: this is one.

1071
01:00:14,880 --> 01:00:18,640
Speaker 3: This is on the scene of the crime exactly.

1072
01:00:20,200 --> 01:00:22,000
Speaker 1: This is on the scene of the crime,