1 00:00:00,760 --> 00:00:03,800 Speaker 1: This is the Benn and Ashley I Almost Famous podcast 2 00:00:03,840 --> 00:00:08,959 Speaker 1: with IR Radio. Welcome to the Almost Famous podcast. We're back. 3 00:00:09,039 --> 00:00:11,559 Speaker 1: It's the off season and we cannot be more excited 4 00:00:11,600 --> 00:00:15,760 Speaker 1: to be joining you all today to talk about a ridiculous, 5 00:00:16,560 --> 00:00:19,919 Speaker 1: absolutely ridiculous amount of bachelor headlines. Stuff is happening in 6 00:00:19,960 --> 00:00:23,440 Speaker 1: Bachelor Nation and it is exciting. But first off, we're 7 00:00:23,440 --> 00:00:28,800 Speaker 1: gonna check in with uh. Well, I would say, uh 8 00:00:29,000 --> 00:00:33,760 Speaker 1: one of, if not the best mothers I know, Ashley. 9 00:00:33,800 --> 00:00:38,839 Speaker 1: I can eddie. Um, Ashley, I see you on this 10 00:00:38,920 --> 00:00:41,920 Speaker 1: podcast in action. No, you're juggling a baby and a 11 00:00:41,920 --> 00:00:45,640 Speaker 1: and a podcast Mike and feeding all at the same time. 12 00:00:45,680 --> 00:00:50,040 Speaker 1: It's impressive. Do you see his legs behind me? Yeah, 13 00:00:50,120 --> 00:00:53,239 Speaker 1: that's pretty great. Um, Ashley, how you holding up? Give 14 00:00:53,280 --> 00:00:55,200 Speaker 1: us an update? I know it's the off season, so 15 00:00:55,240 --> 00:00:56,960 Speaker 1: we have some time here to catch up with you, 16 00:00:57,440 --> 00:01:00,640 Speaker 1: to tell us where your life is at. Ben, I 17 00:01:00,680 --> 00:01:03,279 Speaker 1: wish that my life sounded interesting right now. I am 18 00:01:03,320 --> 00:01:07,959 Speaker 1: the ultimate mom and I'm like I now give my 19 00:01:08,000 --> 00:01:10,520 Speaker 1: mom and like all their like stay at home moms 20 00:01:10,600 --> 00:01:14,280 Speaker 1: so much credit because running a house and a baby 21 00:01:14,319 --> 00:01:16,840 Speaker 1: in cake and care a baby is so not easy. Plus, 22 00:01:16,880 --> 00:01:18,880 Speaker 1: you know, I have other things like my podcast, and 23 00:01:18,959 --> 00:01:22,880 Speaker 1: we have social media work and all that, and there's 24 00:01:22,959 --> 00:01:24,920 Speaker 1: just like no time in the day. I remember my 25 00:01:24,959 --> 00:01:28,199 Speaker 1: mom like still to this day, like whenever we're home, 26 00:01:28,400 --> 00:01:30,360 Speaker 1: she's always like, there's not enough time in the day. 27 00:01:31,280 --> 00:01:33,680 Speaker 1: I'm always doing something on this house. It never stops. 28 00:01:33,720 --> 00:01:36,920 Speaker 1: And now it's like I quote my mom to her, now, 29 00:01:37,040 --> 00:01:40,880 Speaker 1: I'm like, seriously, like it never stops. There's always something 30 00:01:40,880 --> 00:01:43,800 Speaker 1: I should be doing. Even before we had a baby, 31 00:01:44,400 --> 00:01:47,120 Speaker 1: I was like, you know, whenever I'd still on the 32 00:01:47,160 --> 00:01:49,360 Speaker 1: couch and be watching a show, like there's that little 33 00:01:49,400 --> 00:01:52,320 Speaker 1: voice in the back of your head saying you should 34 00:01:52,320 --> 00:01:54,240 Speaker 1: be doing this, you gotta do this, you gotta catch 35 00:01:54,320 --> 00:01:56,480 Speaker 1: up on that. But all of it seems like, you know, 36 00:01:56,520 --> 00:01:59,480 Speaker 1: it's not very urgent stuff. You're like, she's being productive. 37 00:01:59,720 --> 00:02:01,720 Speaker 1: I eat that. I hate that. We feel like we 38 00:02:01,800 --> 00:02:06,400 Speaker 1: always should be being productive in some sense, but now 39 00:02:06,760 --> 00:02:10,120 Speaker 1: as a mom and now having a house instead of 40 00:02:10,120 --> 00:02:14,520 Speaker 1: an apartment, but mostly because of being a mom, there's 41 00:02:14,680 --> 00:02:18,920 Speaker 1: always something to do. I can't get even through like 42 00:02:19,000 --> 00:02:20,440 Speaker 1: you think, like, oh, you know, like a lot of 43 00:02:20,440 --> 00:02:24,239 Speaker 1: time to stay on the couch, not even really, because 44 00:02:25,200 --> 00:02:28,080 Speaker 1: like I don't know if my focus on on something 45 00:02:28,120 --> 00:02:30,640 Speaker 1: other than him, Like even if my eyes are on 46 00:02:30,680 --> 00:02:35,000 Speaker 1: my phone on the TV. He doesn't like it. You 47 00:02:35,040 --> 00:02:37,919 Speaker 1: can tell. He's like, give me all your attention. Look 48 00:02:38,000 --> 00:02:41,600 Speaker 1: at my eyes when you're giving me a bottle. It's 49 00:02:41,639 --> 00:02:44,240 Speaker 1: so funny. I don't know where the time goes every day. 50 00:02:44,280 --> 00:02:48,520 Speaker 1: And then I think like, okay, um, you spend half 51 00:02:48,520 --> 00:02:51,840 Speaker 1: an hour every three hours giving him a bottle. So 52 00:02:52,000 --> 00:02:55,680 Speaker 1: that's a whole, that's a huge chunk of ours that 53 00:02:55,960 --> 00:02:57,880 Speaker 1: you know, that are that you used to have that 54 00:02:57,960 --> 00:03:00,560 Speaker 1: you don't have now. And I'm so not complaining, Like 55 00:03:00,600 --> 00:03:03,040 Speaker 1: I love it. And it's just like I can stare 56 00:03:03,040 --> 00:03:05,320 Speaker 1: at his face all day long. You're not complained. But 57 00:03:05,360 --> 00:03:08,360 Speaker 1: it's so crazy, what just like how it changes your 58 00:03:08,400 --> 00:03:11,560 Speaker 1: life completely. Jared's here, he's walking up the stairs. He 59 00:03:11,680 --> 00:03:14,480 Speaker 1: just came home from work. Jared's working all the time 60 00:03:14,760 --> 00:03:16,840 Speaker 1: because you know, we have the new business. Hey Jared, 61 00:03:19,480 --> 00:03:21,960 Speaker 1: he washes his hands before he touches the baby every 62 00:03:22,000 --> 00:03:25,240 Speaker 1: time him. I mean that's great, right, but like also, 63 00:03:25,440 --> 00:03:27,560 Speaker 1: like Jared the dost, we don't need to do that. 64 00:03:28,240 --> 00:03:32,840 Speaker 1: The So he's been working, You've been at home. You're 65 00:03:32,840 --> 00:03:36,240 Speaker 1: trying to catch up. Now I've been saving this question. 66 00:03:36,320 --> 00:03:38,960 Speaker 1: It's a very it's not like a revolutionary question, but 67 00:03:39,000 --> 00:03:42,800 Speaker 1: I've been saving it for the moment that, UM felt necessary. 68 00:03:42,840 --> 00:03:45,640 Speaker 1: So you're you're into this mom thing now, like you're 69 00:03:45,680 --> 00:03:48,600 Speaker 1: you're gonna always be learning. It's always gonna feel crazy 70 00:03:48,680 --> 00:03:50,000 Speaker 1: and like you don't know what you're doing, but like 71 00:03:50,040 --> 00:03:53,640 Speaker 1: you're in it now. What is something that was unexpected 72 00:03:55,040 --> 00:03:57,760 Speaker 1: or that you didn't understand about being a mom that 73 00:03:57,840 --> 00:04:03,600 Speaker 1: you've learned now since your mom day started? Um, I think, well, 74 00:04:03,640 --> 00:04:05,920 Speaker 1: because this is like an episode just of headlines and 75 00:04:06,000 --> 00:04:08,760 Speaker 1: Jared is walking the room from work, and I blessedly 76 00:04:08,800 --> 00:04:11,920 Speaker 1: get to have him today, UM here at home at 77 00:04:11,960 --> 00:04:14,880 Speaker 1: five o'clock. That's amazing. I'd love for him to come 78 00:04:14,880 --> 00:04:19,359 Speaker 1: and do like this segment together. Yeah, So, as you 79 00:04:19,400 --> 00:04:22,080 Speaker 1: just mentioned, Jared is walking up the stairs, he's washing 80 00:04:22,160 --> 00:04:25,640 Speaker 1: his hands before he holds your baby because he cares 81 00:04:25,720 --> 00:04:29,839 Speaker 1: so much. And now that he's with us, and it 82 00:04:30,080 --> 00:04:32,680 Speaker 1: is a gift as we've learned that he is home 83 00:04:32,720 --> 00:04:35,000 Speaker 1: at five o'clock from work, able to spend time with 84 00:04:35,040 --> 00:04:38,080 Speaker 1: the family, it's a big dealities here with you. UM, 85 00:04:38,240 --> 00:04:39,839 Speaker 1: I think it would be awesome. We've all kind of 86 00:04:39,839 --> 00:04:42,920 Speaker 1: been waiting and saving um the questions for this moment. 87 00:04:43,200 --> 00:04:44,720 Speaker 1: But if you guys could just talk a little bit 88 00:04:44,720 --> 00:04:47,280 Speaker 1: about what you've learned as parents so far, some of 89 00:04:47,320 --> 00:04:49,960 Speaker 1: the things that are shocking and surprising to you too, 90 00:04:50,240 --> 00:04:51,720 Speaker 1: some of the things that maybe you feel like, wow, 91 00:04:51,720 --> 00:04:53,599 Speaker 1: I'm better at this than I even knew. I was 92 00:04:54,200 --> 00:04:56,200 Speaker 1: just spend some time, if you don't mind, walking through 93 00:04:56,240 --> 00:04:58,760 Speaker 1: what being a parent is like to this day. First 94 00:04:58,760 --> 00:05:00,960 Speaker 1: of all, Hi, Ben, how are you buddy? He stead? 95 00:05:02,480 --> 00:05:04,560 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I gotta talk. First of all, actually, why 96 00:05:04,560 --> 00:05:08,920 Speaker 1: are your hands filthy? Well? I got a blessed moment 97 00:05:09,000 --> 00:05:12,560 Speaker 1: before where he was asleep in his car seat for 98 00:05:12,640 --> 00:05:15,400 Speaker 1: like an hour and a half, so I spray painted 99 00:05:15,560 --> 00:05:18,560 Speaker 1: the uh so, all right, So the question at hand, 100 00:05:18,560 --> 00:05:21,920 Speaker 1: what have we learned as parents? Well, what's what's surprising? 101 00:05:22,000 --> 00:05:26,800 Speaker 1: I think that what's surprising is one everything does come natural. 102 00:05:27,040 --> 00:05:31,360 Speaker 1: Like everybody says it, well, uh yeah, I mean it's 103 00:05:31,400 --> 00:05:33,840 Speaker 1: just like anything in life. You just adapt and learn 104 00:05:33,839 --> 00:05:35,760 Speaker 1: how to do it. It's like, Okay, here's a kid, 105 00:05:35,920 --> 00:05:38,120 Speaker 1: so just keep it alive. I was just saying that 106 00:05:38,160 --> 00:05:41,239 Speaker 1: the biggest change for me is definitely the time suck. 107 00:05:41,760 --> 00:05:43,880 Speaker 1: Like I mean, just giving him bottles is like three 108 00:05:43,920 --> 00:05:46,560 Speaker 1: a total of three hours a day. Yeah, i'd also said, 109 00:05:46,640 --> 00:05:49,039 Speaker 1: just see also, you're not here for all the bottles. 110 00:05:49,200 --> 00:05:50,920 Speaker 1: I'm not here for all the bottles. I would say, 111 00:05:50,960 --> 00:05:54,920 Speaker 1: just the emotional exhaustion of it all. Really, yeah, I'm 112 00:05:54,920 --> 00:05:57,240 Speaker 1: always tired. But maybe it's some other shop all the time, 113 00:05:57,279 --> 00:05:59,800 Speaker 1: because you're at the shop all the time. I would 114 00:06:00,080 --> 00:06:04,040 Speaker 1: it's yeah, man, it's great. It's just you're just your 115 00:06:04,080 --> 00:06:09,000 Speaker 1: life isn't about you anymore. Like I it sucks. It's 116 00:06:09,000 --> 00:06:11,920 Speaker 1: just it's great, but it sucks at the same time 117 00:06:11,920 --> 00:06:13,960 Speaker 1: because it's like I just you know, I can't go 118 00:06:14,000 --> 00:06:16,359 Speaker 1: to the gym anymore. As much as I want to, 119 00:06:16,480 --> 00:06:18,479 Speaker 1: as much as I want to, I just don't go 120 00:06:18,520 --> 00:06:20,560 Speaker 1: to the gym anymore. And then, you know, so I 121 00:06:20,600 --> 00:06:24,200 Speaker 1: don't feel my physically best, which doesn't make me feel 122 00:06:24,279 --> 00:06:26,839 Speaker 1: my mentally best. But I do love Dawson more than anything. 123 00:06:26,880 --> 00:06:29,560 Speaker 1: He's definitely worth it. But then, you know, like bro 124 00:06:29,720 --> 00:06:34,520 Speaker 1: golf is just I've been golfing in a long time, 125 00:06:34,680 --> 00:06:36,520 Speaker 1: so that's out the window as of right now. But 126 00:06:36,600 --> 00:06:38,520 Speaker 1: also I would say that has a lot to do 127 00:06:38,640 --> 00:06:41,920 Speaker 1: with Audrey's because I'm there so much. One thousand percent. 128 00:06:42,160 --> 00:06:44,080 Speaker 1: All of our stress comes from the fact that we 129 00:06:44,160 --> 00:06:46,800 Speaker 1: decided to do three things at once. Yeah, so it's 130 00:06:46,800 --> 00:06:52,080 Speaker 1: gonna settle down. House, baby, and business. Okay, so they're 131 00:06:52,120 --> 00:06:54,960 Speaker 1: like three full time jobs that we took on, all 132 00:06:55,000 --> 00:06:57,560 Speaker 1: in the same month, the same season, the same season, 133 00:06:57,600 --> 00:07:03,400 Speaker 1: at the year. He's just making He's very entertaining to bed. 134 00:07:03,440 --> 00:07:06,159 Speaker 1: He's just I'll go grab in a second, I would say. 135 00:07:07,000 --> 00:07:10,040 Speaker 1: Also another surprising, not surprising. I think a lot of 136 00:07:10,040 --> 00:07:11,960 Speaker 1: the things I expected. If I'm being honest, I know 137 00:07:12,000 --> 00:07:14,800 Speaker 1: it's underwhelming answer, But you know I expected to fall 138 00:07:14,800 --> 00:07:18,080 Speaker 1: madly in love with him. I am. I expected to 139 00:07:18,160 --> 00:07:23,040 Speaker 1: be uh in awe of every little moment everything. I'm 140 00:07:23,080 --> 00:07:25,120 Speaker 1: just like, look at him, look at yeah, everything he does, 141 00:07:25,400 --> 00:07:27,520 Speaker 1: as long as he's not crying, it's like, holy, look 142 00:07:27,560 --> 00:07:29,880 Speaker 1: at him. He's awesome. He's the best. You know. I'm 143 00:07:29,880 --> 00:07:32,520 Speaker 1: excited for him to grow up. I'm excited to him. Listen, 144 00:07:32,560 --> 00:07:34,920 Speaker 1: I'm gonna be a parent. I'm not there's a difference 145 00:07:34,920 --> 00:07:36,560 Speaker 1: between being a parent and a friend. I'm not one 146 00:07:36,600 --> 00:07:38,360 Speaker 1: of those people that believes that, Like I want to 147 00:07:38,360 --> 00:07:40,840 Speaker 1: be my son's friend. I want to be my son's father, 148 00:07:41,360 --> 00:07:43,240 Speaker 1: but you know, I want to play catch with him, 149 00:07:43,280 --> 00:07:45,400 Speaker 1: and I want to, you know, show him the things 150 00:07:45,440 --> 00:07:49,640 Speaker 1: that I love and uh, it's cool, like even something 151 00:07:49,640 --> 00:07:51,400 Speaker 1: as stupid I was feeding in this morning, a Mission 152 00:07:51,400 --> 00:07:54,440 Speaker 1: Impossible is on and I'm like, bro, you're gonna watch 153 00:07:54,480 --> 00:07:57,560 Speaker 1: every Tom Cruise movie and you're gonna love it. Oh 154 00:07:57,600 --> 00:08:00,680 Speaker 1: my god, my favorite moment with him. Unfortunately Jared wasn't 155 00:08:00,680 --> 00:08:04,560 Speaker 1: here for it. But last week he was. He was 156 00:08:04,560 --> 00:08:07,720 Speaker 1: like being a little uh, he was being like a 157 00:08:07,760 --> 00:08:10,760 Speaker 1: little fussy, and we were really realizing that he loves 158 00:08:10,880 --> 00:08:14,440 Speaker 1: being out, like he's super social. Whenever he's out, like 159 00:08:14,560 --> 00:08:18,920 Speaker 1: out to dinner, out at Audrey's, he is in his 160 00:08:19,000 --> 00:08:21,560 Speaker 1: happiest state. Like he likes to see a lot of 161 00:08:21,600 --> 00:08:24,840 Speaker 1: things around him and like to hear different sounds. So 162 00:08:25,120 --> 00:08:27,440 Speaker 1: I was like, you gotta, we gotta turn you onto 163 00:08:27,560 --> 00:08:31,040 Speaker 1: music already. So I started playing the Greatest Showman soundtrack 164 00:08:31,120 --> 00:08:33,600 Speaker 1: for him, amongst others of my favorites. And we're not 165 00:08:33,679 --> 00:08:35,600 Speaker 1: just talking boy bands, were talking about like lots of 166 00:08:35,600 --> 00:08:41,120 Speaker 1: other like classic, great timeless music, and he was kicking 167 00:08:41,760 --> 00:08:44,240 Speaker 1: and moving his arms and his legs and his eyes 168 00:08:44,240 --> 00:08:47,280 Speaker 1: were getting widinarything as we were listening to the Greatest 169 00:08:47,280 --> 00:08:50,200 Speaker 1: show in soundtrack, and it was so cool to see 170 00:08:50,240 --> 00:08:54,640 Speaker 1: his reaction to some of my favorite music. Well, you 171 00:08:54,640 --> 00:08:57,080 Speaker 1: guys have also, like you mentioned, you've you've done a 172 00:08:57,080 --> 00:09:01,600 Speaker 1: lot in a short period of time. You as to repeat, 173 00:09:01,720 --> 00:09:05,559 Speaker 1: you got a house, you start a business which we 174 00:09:05,559 --> 00:09:09,480 Speaker 1: we may move out of because we because we want 175 00:09:09,520 --> 00:09:13,000 Speaker 1: to make things even more difficult for us. Actually, well 176 00:09:13,000 --> 00:09:15,920 Speaker 1: this is this is the thing. Our house is. Actually 177 00:09:16,000 --> 00:09:19,640 Speaker 1: we were very much like our house, but it's thirty 178 00:09:19,679 --> 00:09:24,200 Speaker 1: five minutes from Audrey's and we thought that wouldn't be 179 00:09:24,200 --> 00:09:26,120 Speaker 1: that bad of a commute. I'm just gonna babble here. 180 00:09:26,240 --> 00:09:29,240 Speaker 1: This is like a therapy session with ben Um. Yeah, 181 00:09:29,280 --> 00:09:30,480 Speaker 1: we didn't think that was gonna be that bad of 182 00:09:30,520 --> 00:09:33,760 Speaker 1: a commute for Jared, but it is because he at 183 00:09:33,840 --> 00:09:35,680 Speaker 1: least has the kind of job there as the owner 184 00:09:35,760 --> 00:09:38,480 Speaker 1: that he could bounce back and forth when during busy 185 00:09:38,520 --> 00:09:40,240 Speaker 1: hours and slow hours, you know, he could be home, 186 00:09:40,679 --> 00:09:43,280 Speaker 1: but he can't exactly bounce when the commune is thirty 187 00:09:43,280 --> 00:09:45,440 Speaker 1: five minutes. He's not going to go back and forth 188 00:09:45,480 --> 00:09:48,800 Speaker 1: twice a day. And then with Dawson, he wants to 189 00:09:48,800 --> 00:09:50,960 Speaker 1: be as home as much as possible and like, I 190 00:09:51,000 --> 00:09:53,760 Speaker 1: need more help, So we're even looking for another house 191 00:09:53,840 --> 00:09:56,679 Speaker 1: right now, which is insane because I'm gonna have to 192 00:09:56,720 --> 00:09:59,199 Speaker 1: do what I've just done, moving and settle and make 193 00:09:59,240 --> 00:10:01,640 Speaker 1: it make it a home all over again. But in 194 00:10:01,679 --> 00:10:03,720 Speaker 1: the long run, we do think it's going to be 195 00:10:04,400 --> 00:10:07,240 Speaker 1: helpful for us and like good for our mental health 196 00:10:07,280 --> 00:10:10,760 Speaker 1: and our whole family health. And I get it, no, 197 00:10:10,880 --> 00:10:13,720 Speaker 1: and that makes sense. And you know, a lot of 198 00:10:13,760 --> 00:10:15,559 Speaker 1: people when you have a baby, a lot of people 199 00:10:15,600 --> 00:10:18,040 Speaker 1: don't add the things that you guys have on, but 200 00:10:18,080 --> 00:10:20,839 Speaker 1: you have added a lot on. There is something I'm 201 00:10:20,880 --> 00:10:23,640 Speaker 1: really intrigued to talk to you both about because actually 202 00:10:23,679 --> 00:10:26,360 Speaker 1: we spoke about it before Dawston was even born, and 203 00:10:26,480 --> 00:10:29,160 Speaker 1: I haven't got talked to Jared about it. But uh, 204 00:10:29,320 --> 00:10:31,920 Speaker 1: you know, in thirty three, a lot of my friends 205 00:10:31,920 --> 00:10:35,520 Speaker 1: are having their first children or second children um or 206 00:10:35,559 --> 00:10:38,840 Speaker 1: they're thinking about having kids, are trying at this stage. 207 00:10:39,160 --> 00:10:42,480 Speaker 1: There is an anxiety element, right even just having a 208 00:10:42,520 --> 00:10:44,920 Speaker 1: baby in your house and worrying about your baby now 209 00:10:44,960 --> 00:10:47,760 Speaker 1: and worrying about the baby's sleeping, and then also the 210 00:10:47,920 --> 00:10:50,880 Speaker 1: worry about the work, and then the worry about a 211 00:10:50,880 --> 00:10:54,559 Speaker 1: new home or work in general. How are you two 212 00:10:54,679 --> 00:10:57,600 Speaker 1: doing when it comes to your anxiety levels? And your 213 00:10:57,600 --> 00:11:01,640 Speaker 1: mental health and how you're functioning both as humans. Oh, 214 00:11:01,720 --> 00:11:06,000 Speaker 1: I mean, we're fully depressed. But I was going to say, 215 00:11:06,040 --> 00:11:10,920 Speaker 1: how honest is he gonna be here? And that's fair, No, 216 00:11:11,080 --> 00:11:14,000 Speaker 1: And it's fair to talk about because I think, just 217 00:11:14,080 --> 00:11:17,240 Speaker 1: be honest because there is I mean, I get to 218 00:11:17,280 --> 00:11:19,120 Speaker 1: hear right when you're when you're friends with people or 219 00:11:19,120 --> 00:11:20,880 Speaker 1: there's people listening who have been through this, maybe you're 220 00:11:20,880 --> 00:11:22,800 Speaker 1: not depressed, but we're like, hey, this is super easy 221 00:11:22,840 --> 00:11:25,160 Speaker 1: on us, and like we're just thriving, and that's okay too, 222 00:11:25,440 --> 00:11:27,280 Speaker 1: But be honest about how where you guys are at. 223 00:11:28,800 --> 00:11:33,400 Speaker 1: The way I centered myself is, listen, we're tired, we're exhausted, 224 00:11:33,960 --> 00:11:37,040 Speaker 1: like we were saying before, you know, everything that we 225 00:11:37,120 --> 00:11:42,040 Speaker 1: do now is really Dawson first trying to prioritize how 226 00:11:42,080 --> 00:11:44,679 Speaker 1: he's doing. I know, I try to help Ashley out 227 00:11:44,679 --> 00:11:48,840 Speaker 1: in any way I can, um, but so it's exhausting 228 00:11:48,840 --> 00:11:50,440 Speaker 1: and there's a lot of things to complain about. Having 229 00:11:50,480 --> 00:11:53,720 Speaker 1: said that, the way I centered myself is, I mean, 230 00:11:54,040 --> 00:11:56,120 Speaker 1: all you have to do is is look around the world. 231 00:11:56,760 --> 00:11:58,000 Speaker 1: No, no no, no, I was gonna say, all you do 232 00:11:58,040 --> 00:12:00,600 Speaker 1: is look around the world and realize, holy you know 233 00:12:00,760 --> 00:12:03,000 Speaker 1: what am I complaining about. I'm breathing right now. And 234 00:12:03,040 --> 00:12:05,520 Speaker 1: that's what I really centered myself. So, like as exhaust 235 00:12:05,559 --> 00:12:07,640 Speaker 1: as I am, in times when I get really down 236 00:12:07,720 --> 00:12:10,679 Speaker 1: and just sad, I all I do is think about 237 00:12:10,720 --> 00:12:13,760 Speaker 1: why am I like one day I'm gonna die and 238 00:12:13,800 --> 00:12:15,400 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna be able to hold my son, or 239 00:12:15,440 --> 00:12:17,000 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna be able to breathe or have a 240 00:12:17,000 --> 00:12:21,920 Speaker 1: sip of coffee or just look outside, he's grabbing the mic, 241 00:12:22,040 --> 00:12:24,320 Speaker 1: and so that's one. You know, those are the moments 242 00:12:24,360 --> 00:12:28,400 Speaker 1: where I really just kind of centered myself and realize, Okay, Jared, relax, 243 00:12:28,559 --> 00:12:30,360 Speaker 1: You're not the center of the universe. There's a lot 244 00:12:30,360 --> 00:12:32,360 Speaker 1: of people stressed out, there's a lot of people in 245 00:12:32,440 --> 00:12:36,760 Speaker 1: worse scenarios than yourself. So just relax, breathe because you 246 00:12:36,800 --> 00:12:39,200 Speaker 1: get to breathe. You know, not everybody gets to do that. 247 00:12:39,280 --> 00:12:41,840 Speaker 1: Not everybody gets to live to thirty three. You know, 248 00:12:41,960 --> 00:12:44,880 Speaker 1: it's it's a blessing and so hopefully we live for 249 00:12:44,920 --> 00:12:46,720 Speaker 1: a very long time. And so that's how I think 250 00:12:47,160 --> 00:12:49,319 Speaker 1: mine is very similar as well. It's like Jared and 251 00:12:49,360 --> 00:12:53,480 Speaker 1: I have this horrible fear, it's dooming fear that will 252 00:12:54,200 --> 00:12:58,280 Speaker 1: happen one day of our parents dying, and then like 253 00:12:58,400 --> 00:13:00,559 Speaker 1: our siblings, we don't even think about ourselves links because 254 00:13:00,600 --> 00:13:04,880 Speaker 1: you know, lois all those things. So I think about 255 00:13:04,920 --> 00:13:07,640 Speaker 1: sometimes we just like you know that day is not 256 00:13:07,760 --> 00:13:11,120 Speaker 1: today and we have everybody happy, healthy and safe, and like, 257 00:13:11,720 --> 00:13:18,880 Speaker 1: I can't be luckier. Has these existential questions became heightened 258 00:13:19,000 --> 00:13:21,319 Speaker 1: now since Dawson is born? Do you find yourselves kind 259 00:13:21,320 --> 00:13:24,319 Speaker 1: of asking and worrying and thinking about these big life 260 00:13:24,320 --> 00:13:28,000 Speaker 1: things now? Oh my god, When we first had him, 261 00:13:28,400 --> 00:13:30,240 Speaker 1: when we were living at my parents for those couple 262 00:13:30,280 --> 00:13:34,920 Speaker 1: of weeks, I was crying all the time, being like 263 00:13:35,559 --> 00:13:37,560 Speaker 1: and not in a baby blues way, you know, not 264 00:13:37,600 --> 00:13:39,520 Speaker 1: in a postpartum way or anything like that, because it 265 00:13:39,559 --> 00:13:42,440 Speaker 1: was like happy tears. But I was like, you can't 266 00:13:42,480 --> 00:13:46,079 Speaker 1: get better than this. Somebody's gonna die soon, Like you can't, 267 00:13:46,120 --> 00:13:48,720 Speaker 1: just you can't live a life like this perfect, just 268 00:13:48,760 --> 00:13:50,560 Speaker 1: because like when he was born and you know, you're like, 269 00:13:50,600 --> 00:13:53,160 Speaker 1: oh my god, I love him. I can't believe how 270 00:13:53,240 --> 00:13:55,240 Speaker 1: much I love him. Yeah, I think about those things too. 271 00:13:55,320 --> 00:13:57,480 Speaker 1: Were I was on a flight by myself, I forget 272 00:13:57,520 --> 00:13:59,840 Speaker 1: when I was probably on the Oh you went you 273 00:14:00,280 --> 00:14:03,640 Speaker 1: you went back here for like three days. Oh my god, 274 00:14:03,679 --> 00:14:06,760 Speaker 1: we're afraid that while I was thinking of something, well, 275 00:14:06,320 --> 00:14:09,240 Speaker 1: I think about this. I think about it differently now 276 00:14:09,320 --> 00:14:11,880 Speaker 1: because now if I, you know, something tragic happened, I 277 00:14:11,920 --> 00:14:16,960 Speaker 1: wasn't here. It's weird to think that, you know, Dawson 278 00:14:17,000 --> 00:14:19,920 Speaker 1: would grow up without a father. You know, the same 279 00:14:19,920 --> 00:14:22,560 Speaker 1: thing with my mom. Jesus, with Ashley. I mean, obviously 280 00:14:22,560 --> 00:14:24,280 Speaker 1: I think of it in my terms because I don't 281 00:14:24,280 --> 00:14:26,680 Speaker 1: want to think of anything bad happening in Ashley. But 282 00:14:26,760 --> 00:14:29,560 Speaker 1: like it's weird to think, like, yeah, bro, you you 283 00:14:29,560 --> 00:14:32,560 Speaker 1: know so men and my friends unfortunately have had to 284 00:14:32,600 --> 00:14:35,160 Speaker 1: grow up without their dad for multitude of reasons, whether 285 00:14:35,160 --> 00:14:37,080 Speaker 1: it's you know, they're not he's not with the family anymore, 286 00:14:37,160 --> 00:14:39,920 Speaker 1: or unfortunately passed at an early age. And to think 287 00:14:40,240 --> 00:14:43,560 Speaker 1: like that would happen to That's that's the weird mind blowing, 288 00:14:43,640 --> 00:14:45,160 Speaker 1: Like to think that, like I would die and then 289 00:14:45,160 --> 00:14:47,520 Speaker 1: he would grow up and then he would be the kid. 290 00:14:47,560 --> 00:14:49,880 Speaker 1: Now to be like, yeah, my my dad died when 291 00:14:49,920 --> 00:14:53,240 Speaker 1: I was, you know, a baby. It's like Jesus were 292 00:14:53,240 --> 00:14:55,840 Speaker 1: about Jared in the car driving back and forth, I'm like, 293 00:14:55,880 --> 00:14:58,120 Speaker 1: do we need to get you a bigger safer car. Now, 294 00:14:59,040 --> 00:15:02,040 Speaker 1: all right, let's talk about is near something bro well, 295 00:15:02,080 --> 00:15:06,000 Speaker 1: And it's just interesting to see the switch, you know, 296 00:15:06,040 --> 00:15:08,640 Speaker 1: all this is touching about the switch ones Dawson was born, 297 00:15:08,760 --> 00:15:11,280 Speaker 1: where your minds went, where your hearts went, where your 298 00:15:11,440 --> 00:15:13,480 Speaker 1: you know, your heart was opened up. Your anxiety and 299 00:15:13,520 --> 00:15:17,520 Speaker 1: your fear increased, and your responsibilities increased at the same time. 300 00:15:17,600 --> 00:15:21,120 Speaker 1: Yet you're sitting there smiling at your beautiful boy and 301 00:15:21,240 --> 00:15:23,880 Speaker 1: enjoying every second of it. And it's weird, right if 302 00:15:23,920 --> 00:15:28,000 Speaker 1: if I was to describe, Hey, you're gonna think more 303 00:15:28,760 --> 00:15:33,160 Speaker 1: about the fragility of life. You're gonna be more tired 304 00:15:33,480 --> 00:15:37,120 Speaker 1: than you've ever been before. You're gonna have more responsibilities 305 00:15:37,400 --> 00:15:41,280 Speaker 1: then you know what to do with. And on top 306 00:15:41,320 --> 00:15:44,520 Speaker 1: of all that, it's gonna feel like you're learning every 307 00:15:44,600 --> 00:15:47,120 Speaker 1: day something new. Hey, does this sound fun to you? 308 00:15:47,520 --> 00:15:49,360 Speaker 1: If you didn't add in that you had a baby, 309 00:15:49,520 --> 00:15:52,600 Speaker 1: you'd be like, no, that sounds awful. But you had 310 00:15:52,640 --> 00:15:57,760 Speaker 1: a baby, and for some beautiful miracles, miraculous reason, you're like, 311 00:15:57,880 --> 00:15:59,560 Speaker 1: and it's all worth it, and it makes my life 312 00:15:59,640 --> 00:16:01,840 Speaker 1: better And I cry because I can't imagine it being 313 00:16:01,880 --> 00:16:05,800 Speaker 1: any more perfect than this moment. It's weird when we 314 00:16:05,840 --> 00:16:08,720 Speaker 1: think of ourselves as certainly, I don't think of myself 315 00:16:08,760 --> 00:16:11,800 Speaker 1: as indestructible, but you always I don't know if you 316 00:16:11,800 --> 00:16:14,280 Speaker 1: guys feel the same way, but you worry about every 317 00:16:14,400 --> 00:16:16,440 Speaker 1: other people. I don't worry about myself. That's what I mean. 318 00:16:16,480 --> 00:16:20,040 Speaker 1: Like I feel like I you know, I don't know. 319 00:16:20,080 --> 00:16:24,360 Speaker 1: I always think of ways of saving surviving things. Point is, Uh, 320 00:16:24,400 --> 00:16:28,240 Speaker 1: it's so much different with him because he's just so fragile, 321 00:16:28,440 --> 00:16:31,240 Speaker 1: And I'm like, we think about it like if I trip, 322 00:16:31,520 --> 00:16:34,000 Speaker 1: he's in my arms, I doesn't even know how to turn. 323 00:16:34,240 --> 00:16:37,480 Speaker 1: If he felt like it's just good. Every time we 324 00:16:37,560 --> 00:16:40,600 Speaker 1: walk down the stairs, it's a thing, you know, every 325 00:16:40,640 --> 00:16:44,240 Speaker 1: step I take, it's like this could be it. It's 326 00:16:44,280 --> 00:16:48,440 Speaker 1: so weird to think about how vulnerable he is. Jesus man, 327 00:16:48,520 --> 00:16:53,040 Speaker 1: Like your life is literally in our hands. Isn't that crazy? Bro? Yeah? 328 00:16:54,000 --> 00:16:55,360 Speaker 1: And then one day is gonna grow up and be like, 329 00:16:55,440 --> 00:16:57,200 Speaker 1: I hate you dead, because he's going to say that 330 00:16:57,200 --> 00:16:59,160 Speaker 1: because all kids says, I've never said that to my 331 00:16:59,200 --> 00:17:03,280 Speaker 1: parents before, And did you ever say that? Yeah? I did. 332 00:17:03,400 --> 00:17:05,439 Speaker 1: I said it to my dad once, and yeah, I 333 00:17:05,440 --> 00:17:08,200 Speaker 1: still remember the moment. I didn't mean it. I was angry, 334 00:17:08,240 --> 00:17:10,600 Speaker 1: and I it still sucks that I ever said the 335 00:17:10,720 --> 00:17:13,520 Speaker 1: because it's the opposite of anything I've ever felt or 336 00:17:13,840 --> 00:17:16,040 Speaker 1: felt the time or feel now. But yes, you do. 337 00:17:16,160 --> 00:17:18,800 Speaker 1: You're a teenager, and they it's usually because they catch 338 00:17:18,800 --> 00:17:21,119 Speaker 1: you doing something you shouldn't do and you're feeling super 339 00:17:21,119 --> 00:17:23,120 Speaker 1: guilty about it and you've lied to him and gotten 340 00:17:23,119 --> 00:17:25,080 Speaker 1: out of it, and then they like ask you one 341 00:17:25,119 --> 00:17:27,600 Speaker 1: more time and you're like, hey, I hate you. Stop 342 00:17:27,640 --> 00:17:30,200 Speaker 1: asking me these questions. And they're like, well, that hurts 343 00:17:30,240 --> 00:17:33,560 Speaker 1: really bad. But to this day, I remember being in 344 00:17:33,640 --> 00:17:36,440 Speaker 1: like first or second grade, and I was going through 345 00:17:36,440 --> 00:17:38,280 Speaker 1: this phase where it's like I didn't want to be 346 00:17:38,359 --> 00:17:41,280 Speaker 1: taking care of anyone that wasn't a girl. Like I 347 00:17:41,280 --> 00:17:43,560 Speaker 1: wanted all my teachers to be girls. I wanted like 348 00:17:43,760 --> 00:17:45,359 Speaker 1: every you know, every baby said I had to be 349 00:17:45,359 --> 00:17:48,080 Speaker 1: a girl. And so they were going to leave me 350 00:17:48,119 --> 00:17:51,080 Speaker 1: home with my grandpa and my grandma, but I guess 351 00:17:51,119 --> 00:17:52,639 Speaker 1: I didn't want to. I don't know what it was 352 00:17:52,680 --> 00:17:55,399 Speaker 1: about Grandpa and I go, no, don't leave me home 353 00:17:55,440 --> 00:17:58,439 Speaker 1: alone with Grandpa. He's mean. It's like what he was 354 00:17:58,760 --> 00:18:04,600 Speaker 1: the nicest, never mean ever, But like Grandpa, Now, to 355 00:18:04,600 --> 00:18:06,800 Speaker 1: this day, I still think if he had heard that, 356 00:18:06,920 --> 00:18:09,320 Speaker 1: I just can't. I can't deal with that guilt. Yeah, 357 00:18:09,359 --> 00:18:12,360 Speaker 1: but then you fast forward yourself into their shoes. Now 358 00:18:12,440 --> 00:18:15,880 Speaker 1: we're all adults. If a kid said that, you'd be like, 359 00:18:16,200 --> 00:18:18,680 Speaker 1: we would laugh about it, you know. So I guess 360 00:18:18,680 --> 00:18:20,200 Speaker 1: as a kid he feel a lot more guilty about 361 00:18:20,200 --> 00:18:23,280 Speaker 1: it than as an adult. But still, well, it's really 362 00:18:23,280 --> 00:18:24,719 Speaker 1: great to catch up with you two, and it's good 363 00:18:24,760 --> 00:18:28,600 Speaker 1: to get and what you're accomplishing and what how you're 364 00:18:28,640 --> 00:18:31,760 Speaker 1: changing as humans. It's great to see it, and and 365 00:18:31,800 --> 00:18:33,800 Speaker 1: I think from all of us, we appreciate you all 366 00:18:33,840 --> 00:18:36,520 Speaker 1: giving us the update, and we will continue to keep 367 00:18:36,560 --> 00:18:39,959 Speaker 1: updates as your family grows and as Dawson grows, and 368 00:18:40,000 --> 00:18:44,280 Speaker 1: as you two continue to navigate this wildly fun journey 369 00:18:44,320 --> 00:18:48,399 Speaker 1: that his parenthood. Um, you're doing it well. Next thing 370 00:18:48,440 --> 00:18:50,000 Speaker 1: is trying to make him smile. So he smiles in 371 00:18:50,080 --> 00:18:51,960 Speaker 1: his sleep most of the time, probably because he's farting. 372 00:18:52,000 --> 00:18:54,359 Speaker 1: But now I'm trying to make him smile because I 373 00:18:54,400 --> 00:18:56,720 Speaker 1: can see it, like I can see it's on the verge. 374 00:18:56,720 --> 00:18:59,080 Speaker 1: I can see his facial recognition. I could see like 375 00:18:59,400 --> 00:19:03,320 Speaker 1: he's opening his mouth, he's enjoying it. I don't know 376 00:19:03,359 --> 00:19:04,639 Speaker 1: what that means, but I say it a lot to him, 377 00:19:04,640 --> 00:19:09,879 Speaker 1: but he seems to enjoy it beforehand. Yeah, I can 378 00:19:09,920 --> 00:19:15,440 Speaker 1: just so bad about lois so bad. She's actually gets 379 00:19:15,520 --> 00:19:19,440 Speaker 1: plenty of attention, but I think it's her looking at 380 00:19:19,520 --> 00:19:24,640 Speaker 1: the love that he gets that makes herself okay. But wait, 381 00:19:24,680 --> 00:19:27,119 Speaker 1: one more thing that I wanted to mention because I 382 00:19:27,200 --> 00:19:30,000 Speaker 1: said this on Instagram and I had somebody respond. I 383 00:19:30,040 --> 00:19:33,000 Speaker 1: don't remember who it was, but it was also a 384 00:19:33,600 --> 00:19:38,359 Speaker 1: Bachelor mom. So the only time that I've been more 385 00:19:38,480 --> 00:19:41,439 Speaker 1: tired because he's really good sleeper. We don't get like solid, 386 00:19:41,520 --> 00:19:44,399 Speaker 1: like you know, eight hours straight through. We get breaks 387 00:19:44,480 --> 00:19:48,760 Speaker 1: and stuff, but we get more than the average parents. 388 00:19:48,800 --> 00:19:51,000 Speaker 1: I think he's been he's pretty good, and he has 389 00:19:51,080 --> 00:19:54,359 Speaker 1: been pretty good from the start um. But the time 390 00:19:54,400 --> 00:19:57,080 Speaker 1: in my life where I was way more tired than 391 00:19:57,160 --> 00:20:01,200 Speaker 1: this was definitely filming The Bachelor because we would go 392 00:20:01,320 --> 00:20:03,040 Speaker 1: to bed at two in the morning and wake you 393 00:20:03,119 --> 00:20:06,320 Speaker 1: up at seven exactly, so we can survive that and 394 00:20:06,359 --> 00:20:09,639 Speaker 1: then like beyond camera, you can get through it all. 395 00:20:09,840 --> 00:20:11,920 Speaker 1: I get through a lot, you can get through a lot. Well, 396 00:20:12,119 --> 00:20:15,720 Speaker 1: I have something that's gonna make Dawson smiles. No, no, no, 397 00:20:16,359 --> 00:20:18,720 Speaker 1: I didn't get to the bachelor can get through anything. Yeah, 398 00:20:18,720 --> 00:20:21,800 Speaker 1: I mean it's the same as torture, right. I do 399 00:20:21,920 --> 00:20:23,560 Speaker 1: have something that's gonna make Dawson smile. It's gonna be 400 00:20:23,560 --> 00:20:26,000 Speaker 1: bachelor headlines, and they're gonna come up right after the break. 401 00:20:36,440 --> 00:20:40,720 Speaker 1: Moving on from bachelor headlines are chie moving on from Jared, 402 00:20:40,800 --> 00:20:43,080 Speaker 1: Nashley and Dawson, We're gonna go into bachelor headlines and 403 00:20:43,119 --> 00:20:44,320 Speaker 1: there's a lot of them the day, and there's some 404 00:20:44,880 --> 00:20:47,080 Speaker 1: that we really got to celebrate, and this first one 405 00:20:47,240 --> 00:20:51,320 Speaker 1: falls into that category. Former Bachelor at Andy Dorfman is 406 00:20:51,400 --> 00:20:55,679 Speaker 1: engaged to boyfriend Blaine Heart. The quote is I finally 407 00:20:55,720 --> 00:21:01,040 Speaker 1: found love. Yeah, ber Andy, I'm excited. I'm also curious 408 00:21:01,240 --> 00:21:07,080 Speaker 1: because they met or Okay, so they rekindled their relationship 409 00:21:07,280 --> 00:21:11,119 Speaker 1: in Italy, and I want to know rekindled or she 410 00:21:11,240 --> 00:21:16,399 Speaker 1: says the she rekindled last summer in Italy, So I 411 00:21:16,560 --> 00:21:20,639 Speaker 1: gotta know rekindled from when? From what? Was this a 412 00:21:20,760 --> 00:21:23,680 Speaker 1: fling that turned into a relationship at some point later 413 00:21:23,760 --> 00:21:26,680 Speaker 1: down the road or was this an ex boyfriend who 414 00:21:26,760 --> 00:21:30,720 Speaker 1: turned into a now current boyfriend and fiance. I don't know, 415 00:21:30,920 --> 00:21:33,120 Speaker 1: but we have to get Andy on here and ask 416 00:21:33,200 --> 00:21:36,280 Speaker 1: her about it, she brings up Italy because that's where 417 00:21:36,359 --> 00:21:39,160 Speaker 1: she's thinking about doing the wedding. She says that she's 418 00:21:39,640 --> 00:21:42,200 Speaker 1: not interested at all at planning a wedding. She says 419 00:21:42,240 --> 00:21:44,800 Speaker 1: she wants to take the groom's job, basically doing nothing 420 00:21:46,240 --> 00:21:50,119 Speaker 1: um during this wedding planning process. Um. She says, it 421 00:21:50,160 --> 00:21:52,439 Speaker 1: will be like a small thing whenever it does happen. 422 00:21:52,600 --> 00:21:55,040 Speaker 1: But as far as the engagement goes, happened this week 423 00:21:55,119 --> 00:21:58,920 Speaker 1: it was very exciting. He told her, Uh, let's go 424 00:21:59,040 --> 00:22:02,200 Speaker 1: to dinner, and before do you want to like just 425 00:22:02,320 --> 00:22:04,040 Speaker 1: get some you want to have some cocktails on the 426 00:22:04,080 --> 00:22:06,119 Speaker 1: beach during sunset. She says it's something that they do 427 00:22:06,480 --> 00:22:08,120 Speaker 1: that they do a lot, so it wasn't like out 428 00:22:08,119 --> 00:22:12,040 Speaker 1: of the ordinary whatnot. And she's like looking at the 429 00:22:12,119 --> 00:22:14,680 Speaker 1: water and before she knows that, she turns around and 430 00:22:14,760 --> 00:22:17,360 Speaker 1: he's down on one knee. She says she doesn't really 431 00:22:17,400 --> 00:22:21,240 Speaker 1: remember anything except for like crying and hugging him. And 432 00:22:21,440 --> 00:22:24,960 Speaker 1: then they instead of going to the restaurant, he goes, 433 00:22:25,000 --> 00:22:27,280 Speaker 1: we're going to spend the night at Hotel bel Air, 434 00:22:27,920 --> 00:22:30,800 Speaker 1: And then he said, well let's go home. First pack 435 00:22:30,840 --> 00:22:34,040 Speaker 1: a bag, and then when she opened the door. All 436 00:22:34,119 --> 00:22:37,440 Speaker 1: of their family, they're both their families and then closest 437 00:22:37,480 --> 00:22:40,240 Speaker 1: friends were there to surprise her. Her niece and nephew 438 00:22:40,320 --> 00:22:43,119 Speaker 1: came running up. She said it was so cute and 439 00:22:43,560 --> 00:22:49,200 Speaker 1: um he also they they picked out the jewelry. They 440 00:22:49,240 --> 00:22:53,600 Speaker 1: picked up the ring actually together, which is interesting because 441 00:22:53,760 --> 00:22:56,920 Speaker 1: why wasn't really a surprise. Camp couldn't have been a 442 00:22:56,960 --> 00:22:59,280 Speaker 1: surprise if they were picking out jewelry. Another thing we 443 00:22:59,359 --> 00:23:03,320 Speaker 1: have to ask, um they used the same jeweler as 444 00:23:03,640 --> 00:23:08,880 Speaker 1: the as her parents did forty years ago. That's amazing. 445 00:23:09,200 --> 00:23:11,560 Speaker 1: That's such a great story and great for Andy. I 446 00:23:11,720 --> 00:23:15,720 Speaker 1: wonder actually, if you remember right, maybe two years ago, 447 00:23:15,880 --> 00:23:18,560 Speaker 1: we had a headline where Andy Dorfman had posted a 448 00:23:18,600 --> 00:23:21,280 Speaker 1: picture with a guy's legs on the beach. Remember that, 449 00:23:21,800 --> 00:23:24,359 Speaker 1: Oh my god, is that him? I wonder if it 450 00:23:24,480 --> 00:23:26,280 Speaker 1: is him? We gotta ask her, we gotta get her on. 451 00:23:26,440 --> 00:23:28,760 Speaker 1: But I'm just wondering back in the day, there is 452 00:23:28,800 --> 00:23:31,680 Speaker 1: that like Bennett, you know, has Bennett Jordan's it was 453 00:23:31,840 --> 00:23:34,000 Speaker 1: maybe him and he was like, no, he's playing all 454 00:23:34,080 --> 00:23:35,800 Speaker 1: coy about it and it wasn't him at all. I 455 00:23:35,800 --> 00:23:37,920 Speaker 1: wonder if it was this guy and that they maybe 456 00:23:38,000 --> 00:23:39,840 Speaker 1: like took a time, some time apart and then got 457 00:23:39,880 --> 00:23:42,920 Speaker 1: back together. I don't know. Those are all speculation and 458 00:23:43,000 --> 00:23:48,440 Speaker 1: we need to bring the questions. I'm very very interested 459 00:23:48,480 --> 00:23:51,200 Speaker 1: in Andy Dorfman's love life, so I won't forget it. 460 00:23:51,480 --> 00:23:54,680 Speaker 1: Uh hey, we we mentioned it last week. Actually, we 461 00:23:54,800 --> 00:23:58,480 Speaker 1: kind of argued back and forth if we thought Bachelor 462 00:23:58,480 --> 00:24:01,239 Speaker 1: in Paradise would happen. We wondered if it was going 463 00:24:01,280 --> 00:24:04,120 Speaker 1: to happen. People were starting to speculate that it wasn't 464 00:24:04,119 --> 00:24:06,159 Speaker 1: gonna happen. But we now have some more info for 465 00:24:06,280 --> 00:24:09,600 Speaker 1: you because we promised you we would. So here's the headline, 466 00:24:10,040 --> 00:24:17,120 Speaker 1: Bachelor in Paradise. Everything we know this according to Mary Claire. Yeah, 467 00:24:17,240 --> 00:24:19,800 Speaker 1: so I had mentioned last week that like the timing 468 00:24:19,960 --> 00:24:21,640 Speaker 1: was weird. I was like, why don't they just start 469 00:24:21,720 --> 00:24:24,920 Speaker 1: filming Bachelor in Paradise in May and then we get 470 00:24:25,000 --> 00:24:28,560 Speaker 1: that season? Why do another Bachelor? Why do this bachelortte 471 00:24:28,560 --> 00:24:32,800 Speaker 1: season now when we already have Michelle's Bachelortte season to 472 00:24:32,960 --> 00:24:36,639 Speaker 1: pick men from, and then we have, of course this 473 00:24:36,800 --> 00:24:40,200 Speaker 1: pass Bachelor's season to pick women from. And then you said, 474 00:24:40,359 --> 00:24:42,359 Speaker 1: I don't know, I I get canceled. Well, that was 475 00:24:42,480 --> 00:24:46,439 Speaker 1: a speculation, especially back in October and Reality. Steve mentioned 476 00:24:46,520 --> 00:24:50,480 Speaker 1: that because of the ratings, he was thinking that it 477 00:24:50,600 --> 00:24:54,639 Speaker 1: might get canceled. But this does not seem to be 478 00:24:54,880 --> 00:24:58,960 Speaker 1: the truth of the matter, because right now it looks 479 00:24:59,000 --> 00:25:02,560 Speaker 1: like producers are making calls to Bachelor lum seeing if 480 00:25:02,560 --> 00:25:05,320 Speaker 1: they're interested in being in the upcoming season. We just 481 00:25:05,480 --> 00:25:08,280 Speaker 1: don't really know when it'll air. It'll probably be airing 482 00:25:08,520 --> 00:25:13,680 Speaker 1: later than usual, like maybe October time after the Bachelorette airs, 483 00:25:14,640 --> 00:25:17,200 Speaker 1: And I just find that that's gonna be maybe a 484 00:25:17,280 --> 00:25:19,960 Speaker 1: little bit weird feeling because Paradise is such a summer show. 485 00:25:20,200 --> 00:25:22,879 Speaker 1: But but who knows. I guess we'll just experiment a bit. 486 00:25:23,800 --> 00:25:25,720 Speaker 1: It's gonna be interesting to see. I mean, I think 487 00:25:25,720 --> 00:25:30,359 Speaker 1: a lot of people um are intrigued. You know, the 488 00:25:30,480 --> 00:25:33,960 Speaker 1: Paradise might have low ratings, but the people that watch 489 00:25:34,080 --> 00:25:37,639 Speaker 1: it really engage in it. And there's there's a difference 490 00:25:37,680 --> 00:25:40,680 Speaker 1: between now, I think on television where people just watch 491 00:25:40,760 --> 00:25:43,560 Speaker 1: the show and it gets great ratings, or people reacting 492 00:25:44,160 --> 00:25:45,840 Speaker 1: um and taking action on the show. And I think 493 00:25:45,880 --> 00:25:49,400 Speaker 1: Paradise gets a lot of social media attention. People love 494 00:25:49,520 --> 00:25:52,159 Speaker 1: talking about writing articles on it. I would still I mean, 495 00:25:52,480 --> 00:25:54,040 Speaker 1: last week I said, hey, I don't know if it's 496 00:25:54,040 --> 00:25:56,960 Speaker 1: going to happen. Uh, As I spent more time this 497 00:25:57,040 --> 00:25:59,960 Speaker 1: week thinking about it. I'd be shocked if it didn't 498 00:26:00,160 --> 00:26:04,920 Speaker 1: happen because it is such a involved show and people 499 00:26:05,080 --> 00:26:09,200 Speaker 1: love watching it. It's very loyal following. Yeah, it's definitely 500 00:26:09,400 --> 00:26:13,480 Speaker 1: like if you're talking impressions versus engagement, it gets a 501 00:26:13,640 --> 00:26:16,320 Speaker 1: ton of engagement if we were like talking in social 502 00:26:16,400 --> 00:26:20,119 Speaker 1: media terms, and I can I can say that I 503 00:26:20,240 --> 00:26:23,360 Speaker 1: personally know that some of these girls are getting calls 504 00:26:23,400 --> 00:26:27,480 Speaker 1: for producers, so they're in the casting process. Well, that's 505 00:26:27,520 --> 00:26:30,679 Speaker 1: exciting for so many. Now, we do have some very 506 00:26:30,760 --> 00:26:33,240 Speaker 1: interesting headlines that I didn't think we'd be talking about 507 00:26:33,280 --> 00:26:37,000 Speaker 1: this week, but we they came up. Um, they were 508 00:26:37,880 --> 00:26:40,560 Speaker 1: given to us, and I think they're interesting to talk about. 509 00:26:41,359 --> 00:26:45,120 Speaker 1: Katie Thurston and John Hersey reflect This is the headline 510 00:26:45,160 --> 00:26:48,680 Speaker 1: on Blake Moyne's reaction to the romance twelve Days. A 511 00:26:48,760 --> 00:26:52,879 Speaker 1: messy backlash that Katie received is also involved in this article, 512 00:26:53,680 --> 00:26:56,520 Speaker 1: and they also touch on do they feel pressure to 513 00:26:56,560 --> 00:26:59,359 Speaker 1: get engaged? All this is according to US Weekly, But 514 00:26:59,440 --> 00:27:01,320 Speaker 1: again here the things that we're gonna talk about as 515 00:27:01,320 --> 00:27:05,280 Speaker 1: actually breaks it down. Katie Thurston and John Hersey's relationship. 516 00:27:05,440 --> 00:27:08,920 Speaker 1: Also Blake Moyne's reaction to the romance the twelve Days 517 00:27:08,960 --> 00:27:11,000 Speaker 1: of Messy if you remember Katie did just a while 518 00:27:11,160 --> 00:27:13,240 Speaker 1: back and kind of the backlashes she got for that, 519 00:27:13,320 --> 00:27:17,159 Speaker 1: And do they feel pressure to get engaged? Okay, so 520 00:27:17,359 --> 00:27:20,080 Speaker 1: let's start with do they feel pressure to get engaged? Uh. 521 00:27:20,480 --> 00:27:24,040 Speaker 1: She says that because the bachelor process is so fast, 522 00:27:24,359 --> 00:27:28,560 Speaker 1: people just expected to come. But it's not anything that 523 00:27:28,600 --> 00:27:31,880 Speaker 1: they feel pressure to to go into right now. They're 524 00:27:31,960 --> 00:27:35,080 Speaker 1: in the normal world, she said, not on a dating show, 525 00:27:35,440 --> 00:27:37,360 Speaker 1: So after a few months, that's just not what they're 526 00:27:37,359 --> 00:27:40,920 Speaker 1: thinking of right now, and they're very much mentally living 527 00:27:41,000 --> 00:27:46,160 Speaker 1: in the quote normal world. Um. As far as Blake goes, 528 00:27:47,400 --> 00:27:50,920 Speaker 1: John said that they're kind of disappointed in the way 529 00:27:50,960 --> 00:27:53,000 Speaker 1: that the Blake stuff has gone down because he's been 530 00:27:53,200 --> 00:27:58,760 Speaker 1: relatively open about how things unfolded on podcasts, and he 531 00:27:59,000 --> 00:28:03,000 Speaker 1: said that they was no overlap in the relationships and 532 00:28:03,280 --> 00:28:06,080 Speaker 1: that he actually hung out with Blake for like twelve 533 00:28:06,200 --> 00:28:10,960 Speaker 1: to eighteen hours. They say, Um, when Katie and Blake 534 00:28:11,000 --> 00:28:13,959 Speaker 1: were together and John was with another girl and they 535 00:28:14,040 --> 00:28:16,720 Speaker 1: had a lot of fun together, they didn't escape Room said, 536 00:28:16,760 --> 00:28:20,120 Speaker 1: they hung out all day. Um, So it was disappointing 537 00:28:20,359 --> 00:28:24,960 Speaker 1: when he heard Blake on all these podcasts saying things like, oh, 538 00:28:25,640 --> 00:28:29,520 Speaker 1: I wasn't putting Katie wasn't putting effort into our relationship. 539 00:28:29,640 --> 00:28:32,639 Speaker 1: That's why it was failing and falling apart. And then 540 00:28:32,720 --> 00:28:36,600 Speaker 1: he goes, well, at John says, as Katie's good friend 541 00:28:36,640 --> 00:28:39,600 Speaker 1: at the time, I saw how much effort she was 542 00:28:39,640 --> 00:28:43,200 Speaker 1: putting into that relationship and how much she was trying 543 00:28:43,240 --> 00:28:46,240 Speaker 1: to make it work and it wasn't just one sided. 544 00:28:46,240 --> 00:28:48,920 Speaker 1: And he said that was really upsetting to see. So 545 00:28:49,040 --> 00:28:52,200 Speaker 1: then the other reason that Katie in the whole twelve 546 00:28:52,320 --> 00:28:54,680 Speaker 1: Days of Messy thing, let me start that fresh game. 547 00:28:55,000 --> 00:28:58,000 Speaker 1: So then the twelve Days of Messy thing, why Katie 548 00:28:58,000 --> 00:29:02,080 Speaker 1: and John went public so quickly? She's they said that, Um, 549 00:29:02,240 --> 00:29:05,520 Speaker 1: once they explored their connection a little bit and they 550 00:29:05,600 --> 00:29:07,000 Speaker 1: knew that was gonna be something that was going to 551 00:29:07,040 --> 00:29:10,360 Speaker 1: be long term. They didn't want to have to sneak around. 552 00:29:10,720 --> 00:29:14,960 Speaker 1: They didn't wanna like, they didn't want people to like 553 00:29:15,040 --> 00:29:18,000 Speaker 1: see them in public and then like wonder like with 554 00:29:18,040 --> 00:29:20,400 Speaker 1: their own agenda or narrative. They just wanted to be 555 00:29:20,560 --> 00:29:23,160 Speaker 1: out there and open with what was going on. And 556 00:29:23,240 --> 00:29:25,720 Speaker 1: I guess that was smart because if they did hide 557 00:29:25,800 --> 00:29:29,200 Speaker 1: it more, then thereould probably even additional speculation that there 558 00:29:29,280 --> 00:29:35,080 Speaker 1: was some overlap in the relationships. You know, obviously both 559 00:29:35,120 --> 00:29:39,000 Speaker 1: sides I think have been you know, open since the breakup. 560 00:29:39,040 --> 00:29:41,400 Speaker 1: And these breakups are messy. I mean they are, They're 561 00:29:41,400 --> 00:29:45,959 Speaker 1: already in the public light. Uh, they're already talked about. Um, 562 00:29:46,280 --> 00:29:49,760 Speaker 1: people are being asked about. I mean, I can't you know, 563 00:29:50,680 --> 00:29:52,800 Speaker 1: be on either person's side here because here's the truth 564 00:29:52,880 --> 00:29:56,200 Speaker 1: of it. Blake has his own things going on now. 565 00:29:56,240 --> 00:29:58,640 Speaker 1: So if he goes in a podcast, he's gonna be 566 00:29:58,720 --> 00:30:01,760 Speaker 1: asked about Katie. Like I know from personal experience, you're 567 00:30:02,000 --> 00:30:03,640 Speaker 1: if you like it or not, you're gonna be asked 568 00:30:03,680 --> 00:30:06,440 Speaker 1: about whoever it is that you're with from the show. 569 00:30:06,920 --> 00:30:09,640 Speaker 1: That's a thing, and it's gonna happen for years to come, 570 00:30:10,040 --> 00:30:12,200 Speaker 1: and you're gonna find like a few things to say 571 00:30:12,360 --> 00:30:14,760 Speaker 1: and a lot of things not to say, to give 572 00:30:15,080 --> 00:30:18,560 Speaker 1: like some type of fair response and truthful response without 573 00:30:18,960 --> 00:30:21,320 Speaker 1: you know, maybe throwing the other person on the bus. Now, 574 00:30:21,400 --> 00:30:24,840 Speaker 1: Katie and John they're dating, like you expect them to 575 00:30:24,880 --> 00:30:26,640 Speaker 1: hide it, not to be out there about no like 576 00:30:26,760 --> 00:30:28,560 Speaker 1: you should. They should be out there. They should have fun, 577 00:30:28,640 --> 00:30:31,120 Speaker 1: they should be exploring this thing. I just think, uh, 578 00:30:31,560 --> 00:30:33,160 Speaker 1: it's one of the interesting things that happened in this 579 00:30:33,320 --> 00:30:37,400 Speaker 1: world as people's feelings are real legitimately really hurt, because 580 00:30:37,440 --> 00:30:40,520 Speaker 1: there are still emotions at play and there's still history 581 00:30:40,600 --> 00:30:42,520 Speaker 1: at play. And that's something for all of us to 582 00:30:42,640 --> 00:30:44,520 Speaker 1: realize as we watch these things unfold, is these are 583 00:30:44,560 --> 00:30:46,280 Speaker 1: still humans trying to figure out how to find love. 584 00:30:46,920 --> 00:30:52,040 Speaker 1: It's it's not easy, so um, you know, but they're 585 00:30:52,040 --> 00:30:54,040 Speaker 1: talking about it, and that's something that we're gonna talk 586 00:30:54,040 --> 00:30:56,080 Speaker 1: about here. They talk about it, we're gonna talk about it. Well, 587 00:30:56,120 --> 00:31:00,040 Speaker 1: speaking of talking about it, Tasia Adams confirms a b 588 00:31:00,160 --> 00:31:03,440 Speaker 1: C gave her and Caitlin Bristow a heads up about 589 00:31:03,560 --> 00:31:07,200 Speaker 1: Jesse Palmer hosting The Bachelorette is according to US Weekly 590 00:31:07,240 --> 00:31:10,080 Speaker 1: as well, she said, Caitlin and I both had a 591 00:31:10,120 --> 00:31:12,080 Speaker 1: phone called weeks prior saying that they were going to 592 00:31:12,160 --> 00:31:14,440 Speaker 1: go move forward with Jesse, so it wasn't really a 593 00:31:14,440 --> 00:31:16,520 Speaker 1: surprise when it was announced in the finale that he 594 00:31:16,560 --> 00:31:19,719 Speaker 1: would also be hosting The Bachelorette. She says, I'm very 595 00:31:19,760 --> 00:31:21,680 Speaker 1: happy for him. I feel like he's been so sweet 596 00:31:21,720 --> 00:31:23,920 Speaker 1: and kind to me. So I wish everybody that takes 597 00:31:23,920 --> 00:31:25,960 Speaker 1: that position the very best, and I'm excited to see 598 00:31:25,960 --> 00:31:39,840 Speaker 1: the new season. Caitlin Bristow is also speaking about UM 599 00:31:40,360 --> 00:31:44,000 Speaker 1: how she felt triggered by The Bachelor at having two 600 00:31:44,160 --> 00:31:48,000 Speaker 1: leads for season nineteen. It's an interesting common I'm excited 601 00:31:48,040 --> 00:31:50,000 Speaker 1: to hear about the article actually because obviously I was 602 00:31:50,040 --> 00:31:52,680 Speaker 1: on that season. Um, I told you last week. I 603 00:31:52,800 --> 00:31:56,960 Speaker 1: do think it's going to be interesting, to say the least, 604 00:31:57,000 --> 00:31:59,600 Speaker 1: on how they do this to Bachelor. I think I 605 00:31:59,600 --> 00:32:01,480 Speaker 1: don't know how it works out and how it works 606 00:32:01,520 --> 00:32:04,680 Speaker 1: out well without just adding more messiness and more drama 607 00:32:04,720 --> 00:32:07,920 Speaker 1: to the situation. But I also will say it will 608 00:32:07,960 --> 00:32:12,400 Speaker 1: probably make very interesting and fun television. But it's it's 609 00:32:12,440 --> 00:32:15,520 Speaker 1: interesting to hear Caitlin's response, So Ashley, why why is 610 00:32:15,560 --> 00:32:18,120 Speaker 1: she saying this? Well, it makes me feel kind of 611 00:32:18,240 --> 00:32:22,200 Speaker 1: guilty for being excited about the two bachelorettes because back 612 00:32:22,320 --> 00:32:25,320 Speaker 1: during Caitlin's originals, you know, were not original season. I 613 00:32:25,360 --> 00:32:28,000 Speaker 1: guess that was Chris's, but her bachelorette season with you, 614 00:32:28,760 --> 00:32:31,240 Speaker 1: I felt like it was going to be her and 615 00:32:31,600 --> 00:32:33,479 Speaker 1: the entire time, and I was excited to see how 616 00:32:33,560 --> 00:32:35,400 Speaker 1: they were going to navigate that how guys were going 617 00:32:35,480 --> 00:32:36,920 Speaker 1: to date one and then there's gonna be dates with 618 00:32:36,960 --> 00:32:39,080 Speaker 1: another and blah blah blah blah. But then it ended 619 00:32:39,160 --> 00:32:43,280 Speaker 1: up being eliminating bachelorette, which is like the most hurtful thing, 620 00:32:43,360 --> 00:32:46,040 Speaker 1: and we we all like are not really down for 621 00:32:46,120 --> 00:32:48,680 Speaker 1: the way that that unfolded. But I thought, with there 622 00:32:48,720 --> 00:32:52,200 Speaker 1: being to the entire time like it's gonna be with um, 623 00:32:52,400 --> 00:32:55,560 Speaker 1: Gabby and Rachel, this could be fun. But then Caitlin 624 00:32:55,600 --> 00:32:58,320 Speaker 1: says this, and I'm like, oh darny. She totally has 625 00:32:58,400 --> 00:33:01,840 Speaker 1: a point. So she said, is, oh my gosh, can 626 00:33:01,960 --> 00:33:06,880 Speaker 1: a woman have her own season? First it was first 627 00:33:06,920 --> 00:33:08,840 Speaker 1: it was her season. She was like, it was Claire 628 00:33:08,960 --> 00:33:10,480 Speaker 1: and then she was gone, so that it had to 629 00:33:10,520 --> 00:33:13,880 Speaker 1: be Tasia two in one season, and then there was Katie, 630 00:33:14,080 --> 00:33:16,360 Speaker 1: back to back with Michelle's season, and now we have 631 00:33:16,440 --> 00:33:23,400 Speaker 1: two bachelorttes again, can't it just be, you know, one bachelorette? 632 00:33:23,560 --> 00:33:26,040 Speaker 1: She was, I just want somebody to have their own season, 633 00:33:26,440 --> 00:33:28,840 Speaker 1: and I just don't want them to be pitted against 634 00:33:28,880 --> 00:33:31,080 Speaker 1: each other. I don't know how the format is going 635 00:33:31,160 --> 00:33:33,400 Speaker 1: to work. I don't know what their little system is 636 00:33:33,400 --> 00:33:36,480 Speaker 1: gonna be like, but I know how two bachelorettes felt 637 00:33:36,680 --> 00:33:39,520 Speaker 1: with her, and it felt like being pitted against each 638 00:33:39,560 --> 00:33:43,000 Speaker 1: other for men to decide. She also said we could 639 00:33:43,160 --> 00:33:46,880 Speaker 1: all get weird on what's acceptable and what's not acceptable 640 00:33:46,960 --> 00:33:49,120 Speaker 1: in Bachelor world, because you know that that's a real 641 00:33:49,240 --> 00:33:52,960 Speaker 1: gray area. But I wish I was there for this 642 00:33:53,600 --> 00:33:57,080 Speaker 1: because I know how it feels, and yeah, that's so true. 643 00:33:57,400 --> 00:33:59,680 Speaker 1: I do like Jesse as a host, and put in 644 00:33:59,800 --> 00:34:03,720 Speaker 1: the case of there being two bachelorettes, it would have 645 00:34:03,840 --> 00:34:09,040 Speaker 1: been appropriate for Tassia and Caitlin to be host, especially Caitlin, 646 00:34:09,160 --> 00:34:12,479 Speaker 1: but yeah, Tasia was also part of a two bachelortte season, 647 00:34:12,600 --> 00:34:15,759 Speaker 1: so when I think about like that, it's kind of 648 00:34:15,840 --> 00:34:18,320 Speaker 1: confusing why they wouldn't just stick with Jesse for the 649 00:34:18,360 --> 00:34:22,960 Speaker 1: Bachelor and the girls for the Bachelorette. It is confusing, um. 650 00:34:23,360 --> 00:34:25,719 Speaker 1: And it is interesting to hear Caitlin's take because she 651 00:34:25,760 --> 00:34:28,240 Speaker 1: obviously has been there and she knows, and it's interesting 652 00:34:28,280 --> 00:34:30,279 Speaker 1: to hear this take also because Caitlin was the one 653 00:34:30,320 --> 00:34:34,080 Speaker 1: that walked away being the bachelorette during that season, so 654 00:34:34,640 --> 00:34:38,239 Speaker 1: if she still felt like that was odd to, you know, 655 00:34:38,360 --> 00:34:41,360 Speaker 1: remove Britt from that season, I can't imagine how she 656 00:34:41,440 --> 00:34:44,640 Speaker 1: feels to either share a season um, or how Britt 657 00:34:44,760 --> 00:34:47,759 Speaker 1: maybe feels about this whole situation. I'm sure Brett's fine, 658 00:34:47,920 --> 00:34:51,200 Speaker 1: she seems very happy, but I do think it's odd. Um. 659 00:34:51,360 --> 00:34:56,279 Speaker 1: I also believe Ashley. Just my prediction, UM is that 660 00:34:56,719 --> 00:35:00,120 Speaker 1: because of the backlash. Now, I'm sure the batchel are 661 00:35:00,120 --> 00:35:02,680 Speaker 1: at and the Bachelor franchise knows they're gonna get backlash 662 00:35:02,800 --> 00:35:06,160 Speaker 1: because of two bachelorettes, Like that's not beyond them. They 663 00:35:06,280 --> 00:35:08,680 Speaker 1: they're very they're very like aware that this is not 664 00:35:08,800 --> 00:35:11,880 Speaker 1: gonna just sit easy with everybody of a feeling we're 665 00:35:11,880 --> 00:35:17,640 Speaker 1: gonna see a double Bachelor season probably following this. Oh 666 00:35:17,960 --> 00:35:25,000 Speaker 1: smart smart man. Very very odd. And here's here's what 667 00:35:25,120 --> 00:35:29,080 Speaker 1: I think, Actuley, I'm all for that. Um, tell me 668 00:35:29,160 --> 00:35:31,080 Speaker 1: what you think. I'm all for it, because yet, I mean, 669 00:35:31,160 --> 00:35:33,600 Speaker 1: Caitlin's right, like there's been a lot of double bachelorrettes 670 00:35:33,600 --> 00:35:35,960 Speaker 1: here coming up. I just hope this isn't a trend, 671 00:35:36,480 --> 00:35:38,399 Speaker 1: like I think it takes away from the show a lot. 672 00:35:38,680 --> 00:35:42,960 Speaker 1: I mean, you know, we want to watch, um, the 673 00:35:43,160 --> 00:35:46,360 Speaker 1: leads journey if it's a Bachelor Bachelor. I hope we 674 00:35:46,400 --> 00:35:49,440 Speaker 1: don't start having like two or three or whatever Bachelor's 675 00:35:49,440 --> 00:35:52,640 Speaker 1: and Bachelorettes every season. It just feels like it would 676 00:35:52,640 --> 00:35:57,960 Speaker 1: be hard to like get emotionally invested into. Yeah, I 677 00:35:58,000 --> 00:36:00,600 Speaker 1: don't know how much to elaborate on that set for like, 678 00:36:00,880 --> 00:36:04,360 Speaker 1: I hope so too, because while this is cool for 679 00:36:04,480 --> 00:36:08,080 Speaker 1: one season maybe even two with the Bachelor, I don't 680 00:36:08,080 --> 00:36:11,160 Speaker 1: want it to be the norm. I don't either. It's 681 00:36:11,280 --> 00:36:14,920 Speaker 1: less romantic, but it is less romantic, That's what I think. Um, 682 00:36:15,160 --> 00:36:16,520 Speaker 1: But we'll watch it and we'll see how it goes. 683 00:36:16,600 --> 00:36:19,239 Speaker 1: It's going to be intriguing for this next season. Well, um, 684 00:36:19,400 --> 00:36:22,480 Speaker 1: speaking of the norm, this has been the norm well 685 00:36:22,600 --> 00:36:25,279 Speaker 1: since we were on the show. But Jesse Palmer thinks 686 00:36:25,400 --> 00:36:28,440 Speaker 1: on set Psychologist, he came out and said, this, uh 687 00:36:28,960 --> 00:36:32,120 Speaker 1: are very necessary. Now, this was a part of our 688 00:36:32,200 --> 00:36:34,400 Speaker 1: show and we were doing it actley, So why is 689 00:36:34,440 --> 00:36:38,000 Speaker 1: he speaking about this now? It seems like, well, mental 690 00:36:38,040 --> 00:36:40,600 Speaker 1: health is being talked about more than even when we 691 00:36:40,680 --> 00:36:45,880 Speaker 1: were on the show. And I also feel like fans 692 00:36:45,960 --> 00:36:48,040 Speaker 1: have just been asking a lot about it. I think 693 00:36:48,120 --> 00:36:52,000 Speaker 1: that because mental health is talked about more now, people 694 00:36:52,160 --> 00:36:56,040 Speaker 1: have been asking the question like, is this time in 695 00:36:56,160 --> 00:36:59,520 Speaker 1: which people are like got the spotlight on them and 696 00:37:00,080 --> 00:37:04,200 Speaker 1: it's highly emotional, like is there somebody to guide them? 697 00:37:04,480 --> 00:37:06,920 Speaker 1: Is there just producers to talk to, or is there 698 00:37:07,040 --> 00:37:11,279 Speaker 1: somebody who can really help them if they are mentally struggling? 699 00:37:12,120 --> 00:37:15,360 Speaker 1: And yeah, then and I have talked about it multiple times, 700 00:37:15,560 --> 00:37:19,560 Speaker 1: but now Jesse is saying this. He goes, psychologists are 701 00:37:19,560 --> 00:37:23,239 Speaker 1: always there in the moment, talking to the Bachelor and 702 00:37:23,280 --> 00:37:25,920 Speaker 1: the Bachelor and the contestants to keep everyone as mentally 703 00:37:25,960 --> 00:37:30,799 Speaker 1: healthy as possible. UM. ABC has made mental health care 704 00:37:30,920 --> 00:37:37,400 Speaker 1: a massive priority UM because it seems like some of 705 00:37:37,520 --> 00:37:41,880 Speaker 1: Bachelor Nation, the alum themselves, have complained about mental health 706 00:37:42,200 --> 00:37:45,880 Speaker 1: after the show and the show's lack of resources. So 707 00:37:46,080 --> 00:37:49,440 Speaker 1: I think what Jesse's trying to say is that there's 708 00:37:49,600 --> 00:37:55,759 Speaker 1: always somebody there during filming UM and then there and 709 00:37:55,840 --> 00:37:57,759 Speaker 1: then he also says that they're always trying to take 710 00:37:57,840 --> 00:38:01,920 Speaker 1: steps to benefit their CASTMT verse. I can just speak 711 00:38:01,960 --> 00:38:04,480 Speaker 1: on experience. I didn't really need like a lot of 712 00:38:04,880 --> 00:38:09,640 Speaker 1: help during UM the aftermath of the show. I actually 713 00:38:09,719 --> 00:38:14,000 Speaker 1: handled the online criticism relatively well, being that I did 714 00:38:14,080 --> 00:38:16,760 Speaker 1: have some episodes where I got a lot of hate, 715 00:38:17,800 --> 00:38:20,160 Speaker 1: but I would just vent a lot to family and friends. 716 00:38:22,320 --> 00:38:26,600 Speaker 1: But on the show, I definitely used the a psychic ause. 717 00:38:26,600 --> 00:38:30,920 Speaker 1: Psychologists a lot in Paradise. I love talking to her 718 00:38:31,320 --> 00:38:33,680 Speaker 1: and it made me feel so much better to vent 719 00:38:33,760 --> 00:38:36,280 Speaker 1: to somebody who didn't have like any sort of agenda. 720 00:38:38,080 --> 00:38:41,480 Speaker 1: But it's not and they're always there watching supposedly they're 721 00:38:41,520 --> 00:38:44,920 Speaker 1: like always in the back room making sure like everything 722 00:38:45,400 --> 00:38:49,759 Speaker 1: is like really really okay. What was your experience with 723 00:38:50,080 --> 00:38:54,920 Speaker 1: the psychologist. They switched psychologists during Bachelor Winter Games, and 724 00:38:55,040 --> 00:38:57,279 Speaker 1: I didn't feel as connected or close to that one, 725 00:38:57,320 --> 00:38:59,160 Speaker 1: So I didn't really talk norder. Did I think I 726 00:38:59,320 --> 00:39:02,840 Speaker 1: needed it as much then? And same with the Bachelor, 727 00:39:03,000 --> 00:39:05,160 Speaker 1: like they checked, I checked. You know, you check in 728 00:39:05,239 --> 00:39:08,239 Speaker 1: with them multiple times throughout the process, especially depending on 729 00:39:08,320 --> 00:39:11,040 Speaker 1: how long you're there for. But I didn't really use 730 00:39:11,120 --> 00:39:13,800 Speaker 1: it as a resource, like as somebody to really confide 731 00:39:13,880 --> 00:39:18,320 Speaker 1: him until Paradise, you know, I uh, I struggled. I 732 00:39:18,400 --> 00:39:20,960 Speaker 1: still do, like I can get pretty down um And 733 00:39:21,040 --> 00:39:26,280 Speaker 1: so I I didn't use the Bachelor psychologist. I hired 734 00:39:26,480 --> 00:39:31,520 Speaker 1: my own. Did they did you bring them during the 735 00:39:31,640 --> 00:39:34,560 Speaker 1: show they're in the show and the filming of the show, 736 00:39:34,680 --> 00:39:38,319 Speaker 1: I didn't. I didn't speak to the psychologist. I think 737 00:39:38,360 --> 00:39:40,040 Speaker 1: they had to do a check in once, but it 738 00:39:40,160 --> 00:39:44,600 Speaker 1: was just a check in. Honestly, actually, I felt like 739 00:39:44,719 --> 00:39:49,840 Speaker 1: I recognized it. I was so kind of confused and 740 00:39:50,560 --> 00:39:53,359 Speaker 1: my mind was so emotional and I was so over 741 00:39:53,480 --> 00:39:57,120 Speaker 1: my head, like unlike I there was no prep for 742 00:39:57,560 --> 00:39:59,879 Speaker 1: for me to be the bachelor that I just kind 743 00:39:59,880 --> 00:40:03,520 Speaker 1: of recognized, hey, like I'm not good. Um. And so 744 00:40:03,600 --> 00:40:07,000 Speaker 1: as soon as I got home and then I started 745 00:40:07,040 --> 00:40:12,960 Speaker 1: to you know, access some resources pastoral counseling, um, personal 746 00:40:13,120 --> 00:40:15,759 Speaker 1: like more secular counseling, like really started to dive into 747 00:40:15,760 --> 00:40:17,640 Speaker 1: because I knew, I knew I was going to need it. 748 00:40:17,760 --> 00:40:19,640 Speaker 1: And I have a feeling that my friends I can't 749 00:40:19,640 --> 00:40:23,279 Speaker 1: remember probably had encouraged me to do that. Um. But yeah, 750 00:40:23,320 --> 00:40:24,759 Speaker 1: I mean I think it's important to have. I think 751 00:40:24,800 --> 00:40:27,520 Speaker 1: it's a great resource. I just don't remember ever using them, 752 00:40:27,560 --> 00:40:32,680 Speaker 1: so I don't remember remember being around really yeah, I 753 00:40:32,760 --> 00:40:35,360 Speaker 1: don't remember. Maybe as the lead, you're so busy that 754 00:40:35,440 --> 00:40:37,120 Speaker 1: it's just not in front of mine. Maybe you just 755 00:40:37,120 --> 00:40:41,919 Speaker 1: don't even think about it. M so, but it's that's 756 00:40:42,320 --> 00:40:47,200 Speaker 1: that's sad. I loved the psychiatist. I loved her. I 757 00:40:47,239 --> 00:40:49,640 Speaker 1: would just so advent to her. I really felt like 758 00:40:49,719 --> 00:40:52,759 Speaker 1: she understood me. It was also my only time like 759 00:40:53,920 --> 00:40:56,920 Speaker 1: doing therapy at all, if you want to call it therapy. 760 00:40:57,000 --> 00:41:00,080 Speaker 1: It was like five minutes like in the bungalow. Well, 761 00:41:00,120 --> 00:41:02,560 Speaker 1: it's a great note for any future contestants is to 762 00:41:02,680 --> 00:41:05,920 Speaker 1: access that resource because it is there, uh, and it 763 00:41:06,080 --> 00:41:08,960 Speaker 1: is available. Uh. And it is a safe space and 764 00:41:09,040 --> 00:41:13,000 Speaker 1: a place that doesn't typically have very safe spaces. It 765 00:41:13,160 --> 00:41:16,759 Speaker 1: is a safe space for just letting some things out. 766 00:41:16,920 --> 00:41:20,240 Speaker 1: And I think it's very great to use. Um. Okay, 767 00:41:20,440 --> 00:41:23,160 Speaker 1: transitioning a little bit. You were talking about a little 768 00:41:23,160 --> 00:41:25,959 Speaker 1: bit about Paradise there. Blake Moyn's we just talked about 769 00:41:25,960 --> 00:41:28,560 Speaker 1: a second ago says he would never say never to 770 00:41:28,640 --> 00:41:32,080 Speaker 1: Bachelor in Paradise after Katie Thurston split. The quote is 771 00:41:32,160 --> 00:41:36,040 Speaker 1: can't wait to get on that beach? Oh okay, Well 772 00:41:36,080 --> 00:41:39,440 Speaker 1: he's being sarcastic. He was doing something you know on Instagram, 773 00:41:39,600 --> 00:41:42,000 Speaker 1: Q and I and somebody said are you going to 774 00:41:42,080 --> 00:41:44,399 Speaker 1: do Paradise and like when are we going to see 775 00:41:44,400 --> 00:41:46,520 Speaker 1: you on our TV screens again? And he was like, duh, 776 00:41:46,680 --> 00:41:49,359 Speaker 1: Paradise counted down, can't wait to get on that beach, 777 00:41:49,480 --> 00:41:52,799 Speaker 1: get back into it. And I think that that would 778 00:41:52,800 --> 00:41:55,960 Speaker 1: be like, you know, most people would think, yeah, Blake's 779 00:41:56,000 --> 00:41:58,279 Speaker 1: totally going to make an appearance. He made an appearance 780 00:41:58,320 --> 00:42:02,040 Speaker 1: on Katie season ended up winning the thing, so uh, 781 00:42:02,160 --> 00:42:04,680 Speaker 1: seems natural that he would give it a shot in Paradise. 782 00:42:04,840 --> 00:42:08,680 Speaker 1: But he says probably not. Never say never, but not 783 00:42:08,920 --> 00:42:13,560 Speaker 1: unless it was a great opportunity for something. But I'd 784 00:42:13,719 --> 00:42:17,759 Speaker 1: like to not. What do you mean a great opportunity 785 00:42:17,880 --> 00:42:21,279 Speaker 1: for something. It's a great opportunity for love, Blake. Yeah, 786 00:42:21,600 --> 00:42:24,120 Speaker 1: come on, Blake, open that heart up again, buddy, It's 787 00:42:24,160 --> 00:42:26,759 Speaker 1: worth it. I think he'd be great on the beach. 788 00:42:26,800 --> 00:42:30,880 Speaker 1: I think people would be very, very interested. Um in 789 00:42:31,040 --> 00:42:34,240 Speaker 1: his story. Well, final headline of today, it's about Ashley 790 00:42:34,320 --> 00:42:39,040 Speaker 1: Hubert and JP Rosenbaum. Um. We talked about them, uh 791 00:42:39,800 --> 00:42:42,960 Speaker 1: having a divorce just a few years ago. Well, Ashley 792 00:42:43,080 --> 00:42:47,320 Speaker 1: is now opening up about her boyfriend. Um, it seems 793 00:42:47,320 --> 00:42:50,239 Speaker 1: like it's getting worse serious, seems like it is out 794 00:42:50,280 --> 00:42:55,280 Speaker 1: there in the public now. Um. This according to US Weekly, Ashley, 795 00:42:55,440 --> 00:42:58,759 Speaker 1: I can only tell us about it. I was surprised 796 00:42:58,800 --> 00:43:01,160 Speaker 1: to know that she had a boyfriend, so she hasn't 797 00:43:01,200 --> 00:43:03,400 Speaker 1: really shared it on social media, which is why I 798 00:43:03,480 --> 00:43:07,080 Speaker 1: didn't really know. She has been with him for almost 799 00:43:07,200 --> 00:43:09,799 Speaker 1: a year now, but she says that the first four 800 00:43:09,920 --> 00:43:12,520 Speaker 1: or five months she was in denial about the relationship, 801 00:43:12,560 --> 00:43:14,920 Speaker 1: which is why she feels like it probably went so fast, 802 00:43:15,000 --> 00:43:16,799 Speaker 1: like how like she blinked and it's been a year. 803 00:43:17,600 --> 00:43:20,879 Speaker 1: She says that she's probably not gonna get married again 804 00:43:21,120 --> 00:43:24,279 Speaker 1: one day. She says, marriage complicates things. I'd rather just 805 00:43:24,400 --> 00:43:27,600 Speaker 1: love someone and choose to be with them. She ended 806 00:43:27,840 --> 00:43:31,960 Speaker 1: up introducing him to her kids, um, which are four, 807 00:43:32,280 --> 00:43:36,839 Speaker 1: I mean four which are seven and five, about nine 808 00:43:37,000 --> 00:43:41,160 Speaker 1: months into the relationship, so relatively recently, and for some reason. 809 00:43:41,280 --> 00:43:43,719 Speaker 1: She doesn't know how it happened, but but they both 810 00:43:43,760 --> 00:43:46,440 Speaker 1: thought that he was their babysitter and they said he 811 00:43:46,600 --> 00:43:51,560 Speaker 1: was the best babysitter ever. Hey, I mean that's that's 812 00:43:51,560 --> 00:43:55,600 Speaker 1: some brinie points right there, right, actually introduces them and 813 00:43:56,520 --> 00:43:58,640 Speaker 1: they think it's a babysitting and they love the babysitting. 814 00:43:59,080 --> 00:44:01,839 Speaker 1: That works. Well, she said it's one of my friends, 815 00:44:01,880 --> 00:44:04,799 Speaker 1: so she didn't say this is my boyfriend. Yeah. Yeah, well, uh, 816 00:44:05,040 --> 00:44:07,480 Speaker 1: that is the big update. I actually saw that on 817 00:44:07,600 --> 00:44:10,919 Speaker 1: the news, like on um one of the website see yeah, 818 00:44:11,000 --> 00:44:13,840 Speaker 1: we were some of today or Google was Ashley I 819 00:44:14,000 --> 00:44:16,279 Speaker 1: was talking about her boyfriends. So it's out there in 820 00:44:16,320 --> 00:44:18,839 Speaker 1: public now and will continue to follow that story as 821 00:44:18,960 --> 00:44:22,880 Speaker 1: it continues to progress. Well, that's all the headlines we 822 00:44:22,960 --> 00:44:24,759 Speaker 1: haveter you day. It's a lot of headlines, a lot 823 00:44:24,880 --> 00:44:29,160 Speaker 1: going on in Bachelor Nation. We talked about engagements, to 824 00:44:29,400 --> 00:44:34,640 Speaker 1: past romance, to Bachelor in Paradise, to the mental health 825 00:44:35,440 --> 00:44:38,120 Speaker 1: initiatives that the show is trying to implement. It's a 826 00:44:38,200 --> 00:44:40,520 Speaker 1: lot to going on in Bachelor Nation and will continue 827 00:44:40,560 --> 00:44:42,800 Speaker 1: to bring it to right here on the Almost Famous podcast. 828 00:44:43,960 --> 00:44:47,560 Speaker 1: But until next time, I've Been Been, I've Been actually 829 00:44:48,120 --> 00:44:52,840 Speaker 1: bio followed the Benn and Ashley I Almost Famous podcasts 830 00:44:52,880 --> 00:44:56,160 Speaker 1: on I Heart Radio or subscribe wherever you listen to podcasts.