1 00:00:00,240 --> 00:00:03,680 Speaker 1: Welcome it, everybody to the Wednesday edition of the Clay 2 00:00:03,720 --> 00:00:08,440 Speaker 1: Travis and Buck Sexton Show. Much to discuss with all 3 00:00:08,480 --> 00:00:10,119 Speaker 1: of you across this great land of ours. 4 00:00:10,119 --> 00:00:11,119 Speaker 2: Thanks for being here. 5 00:00:12,200 --> 00:00:15,120 Speaker 1: It is steamy down here in South Florida, I can 6 00:00:15,160 --> 00:00:17,720 Speaker 1: tell you that much. I'm hearing other places too. Feel 7 00:00:17,720 --> 00:00:19,640 Speaker 1: in the heat. Feel in the heat. 8 00:00:19,720 --> 00:00:20,120 Speaker 2: Good time. 9 00:00:20,239 --> 00:00:22,639 Speaker 3: It's hot in the summer. Every year they seem to 10 00:00:22,640 --> 00:00:26,040 Speaker 3: decide that, oh, my goodness, this is the impact of 11 00:00:26,280 --> 00:00:29,360 Speaker 3: global warming and everything else. But I can impress upon 12 00:00:29,400 --> 00:00:31,040 Speaker 3: you that it has been hot for a long time. 13 00:00:31,480 --> 00:00:33,600 Speaker 1: This is the kind of a student analysis we bring 14 00:00:33,600 --> 00:00:36,800 Speaker 1: to you on Clay and Buck. Reminder, it gets hot 15 00:00:36,960 --> 00:00:39,720 Speaker 1: in the middle of summer in much of this country 16 00:00:39,720 --> 00:00:43,120 Speaker 1: of ours. So yes, indeed true story. And if you 17 00:00:43,280 --> 00:00:45,200 Speaker 1: have the chance, this is a great time to get 18 00:00:45,200 --> 00:00:49,680 Speaker 1: into some shade, preferably despite what the Europeans think, indoors 19 00:00:49,680 --> 00:00:52,519 Speaker 1: with air conditioning, because air conditioning is one of the 20 00:00:52,520 --> 00:00:55,520 Speaker 1: greatest inventions of the last one hundred years or so. 21 00:00:56,160 --> 00:00:58,320 Speaker 1: And keep back, relax, listen to some Clay and Buck. 22 00:00:58,480 --> 00:01:01,600 Speaker 1: That is the way to beat the heat, my friends, 23 00:01:01,680 --> 00:01:05,399 Speaker 1: best way to do it. So we've got some very 24 00:01:05,400 --> 00:01:08,200 Speaker 1: good news. Were to dive into on the economy, and 25 00:01:08,200 --> 00:01:12,839 Speaker 1: then we have some distressing but not surprising news about 26 00:01:12,920 --> 00:01:17,800 Speaker 1: the flagship propaganda newspaper of the Democrats, the New York Times, 27 00:01:17,800 --> 00:01:20,360 Speaker 1: that we will dive into, as well as some follow 28 00:01:20,440 --> 00:01:25,279 Speaker 1: up to stories from yesterday. Donald Trump also a whole 29 00:01:25,319 --> 00:01:31,520 Speaker 1: bunch of commentary on Gaza on the Wall Street Journal 30 00:01:31,720 --> 00:01:35,760 Speaker 1: suits that he now has the deep state and more. 31 00:01:35,959 --> 00:01:38,560 Speaker 1: So we've got a lot to dive in. Well, let's 32 00:01:38,560 --> 00:01:43,560 Speaker 1: start though with this, because I think it is one 33 00:01:43,640 --> 00:01:47,600 Speaker 1: of those times where even the people who clay pretty 34 00:01:47,640 --> 00:01:49,960 Speaker 1: much spend all day thinking about how to bash Trump, 35 00:01:50,040 --> 00:01:52,480 Speaker 1: undermine him, say he's terrible, doesn't know what he's doing, 36 00:01:53,160 --> 00:01:55,000 Speaker 1: they're having to step back and say, you know what, 37 00:01:55,560 --> 00:01:58,040 Speaker 1: it's pretty good. What's going on with this economy. Actually, 38 00:01:58,160 --> 00:02:02,040 Speaker 1: I wasn't right when those people weren't right when they 39 00:02:02,120 --> 00:02:04,760 Speaker 1: said tariff, we're gonna ruin everything. Let's start with this 40 00:02:05,560 --> 00:02:11,160 Speaker 1: Q two quarter two growth rate, CNBC's Rick Santelli laying 41 00:02:11,200 --> 00:02:11,800 Speaker 1: it out for you. 42 00:02:11,880 --> 00:02:12,359 Speaker 2: Play one. 43 00:02:12,560 --> 00:02:15,480 Speaker 4: We are expecting to number round two and a half percent, 44 00:02:15,840 --> 00:02:20,520 Speaker 4: and they're out up three percent, up three percent better 45 00:02:20,560 --> 00:02:23,520 Speaker 4: than expected. That would be the highest level since the 46 00:02:23,560 --> 00:02:26,040 Speaker 4: third quarter of twenty four, when it was up three 47 00:02:26,080 --> 00:02:30,680 Speaker 4: point one percent on the consumption side, up one point four, 48 00:02:30,880 --> 00:02:32,239 Speaker 4: very close to estimates. 49 00:02:32,480 --> 00:02:33,840 Speaker 2: Up one point four would be the. 50 00:02:33,760 --> 00:02:36,360 Speaker 4: Best since the last quarter of twenty four. 51 00:02:37,960 --> 00:02:42,320 Speaker 1: Clay, it's a surprise to people who thought Trump was 52 00:02:42,360 --> 00:02:44,600 Speaker 1: going to tank the economy. But I'm just going to say, 53 00:02:45,040 --> 00:02:48,080 Speaker 1: we're gonna I think we're gonna have to ride along 54 00:02:48,240 --> 00:02:51,000 Speaker 1: on Trump's victory lap here for a moment. We told 55 00:02:51,040 --> 00:02:55,720 Speaker 1: everybody he's earned the right to the trade negotiations the 56 00:02:55,720 --> 00:02:58,120 Speaker 1: way that he wants to. He has earned the space 57 00:02:58,560 --> 00:03:01,200 Speaker 1: for everyone to take a beat. You said, don't sell. 58 00:03:01,280 --> 00:03:03,200 Speaker 1: By the way, that was very good advice. We're not 59 00:03:03,240 --> 00:03:05,880 Speaker 1: a financial show, but better advice here than you get 60 00:03:05,880 --> 00:03:09,239 Speaker 1: on a lot of other financial shows. Don't sell. Trump 61 00:03:09,280 --> 00:03:13,520 Speaker 1: knows what he's doing. Three percent growth, and just real quickly, 62 00:03:13,560 --> 00:03:16,160 Speaker 1: before we die, here's the NBC's Joe Kernin and Rick 63 00:03:16,240 --> 00:03:19,120 Speaker 1: Santelli just having a laugh at all the Trump haters 64 00:03:19,120 --> 00:03:21,840 Speaker 1: on the economy, because that is richly deserved. Right now, 65 00:03:21,880 --> 00:03:22,440 Speaker 1: Play two. 66 00:03:22,560 --> 00:03:25,200 Speaker 5: The left and people that don't like the president and 67 00:03:25,600 --> 00:03:28,640 Speaker 5: don't want things to work, and you know, like Center 68 00:03:28,760 --> 00:03:30,919 Speaker 5: Elizabeth Warre will come on and say inflation's out of 69 00:03:30,960 --> 00:03:35,200 Speaker 5: control and the economy is getting killed by what's happening. 70 00:03:34,800 --> 00:03:35,600 Speaker 2: By these tariffs. 71 00:03:35,920 --> 00:03:39,000 Speaker 5: This three percent with the market at new highs, and 72 00:03:39,760 --> 00:03:42,440 Speaker 5: really we haven't seen inflation, you know, go up back 73 00:03:42,480 --> 00:03:44,240 Speaker 5: to three for maybe it will this week, maybe we'll 74 00:03:44,280 --> 00:03:44,600 Speaker 5: see it. 75 00:03:44,880 --> 00:03:46,600 Speaker 3: But none of these horrible things have happened. 76 00:03:46,640 --> 00:03:49,000 Speaker 5: But they still talk like it's happening. 77 00:03:49,240 --> 00:03:49,920 Speaker 2: It's amazing. 78 00:03:50,000 --> 00:03:52,600 Speaker 4: The Democrats, of course, as you pointed out, really don't 79 00:03:52,600 --> 00:03:55,800 Speaker 4: want to see the current administration have some success. But 80 00:03:55,840 --> 00:03:58,960 Speaker 4: there's no doubt that this is some success. We're seeing 81 00:03:59,000 --> 00:04:03,640 Speaker 4: more Wor's power, we're seeing better equities, inflation, Inflation really 82 00:04:03,720 --> 00:04:05,920 Speaker 4: hasn't changed much in the last. 83 00:04:05,720 --> 00:04:06,160 Speaker 2: Year or so. 84 00:04:08,920 --> 00:04:12,520 Speaker 3: I think what you should start to contemplate, and I 85 00:04:12,560 --> 00:04:16,240 Speaker 3: tweeted this out after the numbers came out, is if 86 00:04:16,279 --> 00:04:21,360 Speaker 3: the so called experts are consistently proven wrong time after time, 87 00:04:22,080 --> 00:04:25,960 Speaker 3: what do they actually know? And I know we've talked 88 00:04:25,960 --> 00:04:30,640 Speaker 3: about this before, but there's a great write up and 89 00:04:30,680 --> 00:04:34,839 Speaker 3: I wish I could remember the book that dives into 90 00:04:35,040 --> 00:04:41,719 Speaker 3: expertise and experts are almost always wrong because what. 91 00:04:41,640 --> 00:04:44,640 Speaker 2: They find is there is a huge. 92 00:04:45,880 --> 00:04:50,240 Speaker 3: Sort of cluster effect on experts because especially in the 93 00:04:50,240 --> 00:04:54,080 Speaker 3: modern era, people are afraid of being wrong, and so 94 00:04:54,240 --> 00:04:58,520 Speaker 3: a consensus settles in and nobody really is outside of 95 00:04:58,560 --> 00:05:02,360 Speaker 3: the consensus, because if you're wrong and outside of the consensus, 96 00:05:02,680 --> 00:05:07,400 Speaker 3: the fear is of being ostracized and everything else. And 97 00:05:07,440 --> 00:05:09,520 Speaker 3: the people who end up being the most right are 98 00:05:09,600 --> 00:05:12,440 Speaker 3: actually I think it was a really deep dive on hedgehogs. 99 00:05:12,720 --> 00:05:16,760 Speaker 3: That's people who don't go super deep on necessarily everything, 100 00:05:16,800 --> 00:05:20,159 Speaker 3: but have a wide variety of perspectives. They tend to 101 00:05:20,200 --> 00:05:23,320 Speaker 3: be better at forecasts than people who are so called 102 00:05:23,440 --> 00:05:27,200 Speaker 3: experts in one field. And what we're seeing with economics 103 00:05:27,279 --> 00:05:30,960 Speaker 3: is we were told if there are tariffs put in place, 104 00:05:31,360 --> 00:05:35,599 Speaker 3: we're going to have a great depression style economic reality. 105 00:05:36,000 --> 00:05:40,599 Speaker 3: And you saw everybody flood the market collapse in April, 106 00:05:40,960 --> 00:05:44,279 Speaker 3: the likes of which frankly, we hadn't really seen since COVID, 107 00:05:44,560 --> 00:05:47,360 Speaker 3: And we said on this show, as you pointed out, 108 00:05:47,400 --> 00:05:51,000 Speaker 3: hey just stay calm. If you happen to have added resources, 109 00:05:51,080 --> 00:05:53,680 Speaker 3: now is a good time to buy. Stocks are up 110 00:05:53,720 --> 00:05:57,320 Speaker 3: nearly thirty percent just since April. If you bought the dip, 111 00:05:57,440 --> 00:06:01,000 Speaker 3: if you just stayed in, you and fine, if you 112 00:06:01,120 --> 00:06:03,039 Speaker 3: just didn't pay attention to day to day, and so 113 00:06:03,480 --> 00:06:06,840 Speaker 3: I think there's this obsession with believing that experts are 114 00:06:06,839 --> 00:06:09,680 Speaker 3: going to be right, and then almost every time, I mean, look, 115 00:06:09,720 --> 00:06:12,200 Speaker 3: they were wrong on inflation, they were wrong on tariffs, 116 00:06:12,240 --> 00:06:14,920 Speaker 3: They've been wrong economically on everything. 117 00:06:18,160 --> 00:06:21,880 Speaker 1: They were wrong on COVID, across the board. Yeah, you know, 118 00:06:22,120 --> 00:06:24,200 Speaker 1: with the very few exceptions. I saw our friend doctor 119 00:06:24,480 --> 00:06:28,080 Speaker 1: McCarry on Fox this morning just talking about all the 120 00:06:28,120 --> 00:06:30,200 Speaker 1: amazing things. That's why we had him on recently to 121 00:06:30,279 --> 00:06:34,360 Speaker 1: talk about the FDA and how streamlining that could mean 122 00:06:34,400 --> 00:06:37,400 Speaker 1: cures for people a lot faster, could save could save 123 00:06:37,480 --> 00:06:40,880 Speaker 1: lives and also add quality of life. Right, there's cures, 124 00:06:40,920 --> 00:06:44,600 Speaker 1: there's also effective treatment which can be a game changer 125 00:06:44,640 --> 00:06:48,000 Speaker 1: for people with a whole range of really debilitating diseases. 126 00:06:48,560 --> 00:06:51,720 Speaker 1: And he's an expert who said the right things and 127 00:06:51,839 --> 00:06:57,440 Speaker 1: Trump during COVID, and Trump has shown him what happens 128 00:06:57,440 --> 00:06:59,600 Speaker 1: when you're right, which is you should be elevated. What 129 00:06:59,640 --> 00:07:01,800 Speaker 1: you see the expert class in general, though, Clay is 130 00:07:01,839 --> 00:07:06,040 Speaker 1: they all fall prey to consensus thinking, the echo chamber effect. 131 00:07:06,360 --> 00:07:07,919 Speaker 1: This was even a problem back when I was in 132 00:07:07,920 --> 00:07:11,520 Speaker 1: the CIA as an analyst there. You mentioned the hedgehogs, 133 00:07:11,560 --> 00:07:14,400 Speaker 1: people that are that have depth on things versus a 134 00:07:14,440 --> 00:07:17,240 Speaker 1: little bit on a lot of different things. People who 135 00:07:17,280 --> 00:07:20,200 Speaker 1: had been, in my experience, the people who had been 136 00:07:20,200 --> 00:07:23,360 Speaker 1: covering an issue for a very long time were the 137 00:07:23,400 --> 00:07:25,600 Speaker 1: worst at predicting what the next thing was that was 138 00:07:25,640 --> 00:07:28,640 Speaker 1: going to happen. The people who had a very good 139 00:07:28,720 --> 00:07:32,760 Speaker 1: skill set to understand what matters right now, what's likely 140 00:07:32,800 --> 00:07:38,000 Speaker 1: to happen next, were far better at predictive analysis. Because 141 00:07:38,040 --> 00:07:40,600 Speaker 1: once you've been doing something for a long time, you 142 00:07:40,760 --> 00:07:43,360 Speaker 1: tend to think that whatever everybody else thinks doing that 143 00:07:43,440 --> 00:07:46,800 Speaker 1: same thing is the answer, right that that's the way 144 00:07:46,800 --> 00:07:49,040 Speaker 1: it's going to be. Certainly that is the case the 145 00:07:49,040 --> 00:07:50,600 Speaker 1: case in the economy. And why do we all care 146 00:07:50,640 --> 00:07:53,560 Speaker 1: about this, Well, because it affects the price of everything 147 00:07:53,560 --> 00:07:55,200 Speaker 1: that you were buying, the gas you were putting in 148 00:07:55,200 --> 00:07:58,400 Speaker 1: your car, your ability to pay your mortgage, all of this. 149 00:07:58,800 --> 00:08:01,280 Speaker 1: The piece of this that is me right now. And 150 00:08:01,360 --> 00:08:03,160 Speaker 1: this is what's remarkable, And I think this is why 151 00:08:03,200 --> 00:08:07,240 Speaker 1: Trump's frustration has boiled over on the FED issue. And 152 00:08:07,280 --> 00:08:09,560 Speaker 1: there were some very funny memes from when he went 153 00:08:09,600 --> 00:08:14,360 Speaker 1: and visited the FED. Yes, redo of the building that 154 00:08:14,400 --> 00:08:17,840 Speaker 1: they were, but the fact that rates haven't even dropped yet, 155 00:08:18,480 --> 00:08:20,360 Speaker 1: that would be the kind of rocket fuel you'd add 156 00:08:20,360 --> 00:08:23,120 Speaker 1: to the economy if things were stalled out a little bit. 157 00:08:23,360 --> 00:08:27,920 Speaker 1: This economy is already humming, and they've kept the rates 158 00:08:28,080 --> 00:08:29,680 Speaker 1: artificially high. 159 00:08:29,880 --> 00:08:32,600 Speaker 3: Here's my concern now, buck, and I haven't heard anybody 160 00:08:32,640 --> 00:08:35,360 Speaker 3: say this yet. I'm wondering if the Fed's gonna say 161 00:08:35,400 --> 00:08:38,800 Speaker 3: the economy's growing too fast and we can't cut rates 162 00:08:38,840 --> 00:08:42,960 Speaker 3: now because we can't add the accelerant. In other words, 163 00:08:43,000 --> 00:08:46,400 Speaker 3: they're going to go from hey, I just that's my 164 00:08:46,600 --> 00:08:50,600 Speaker 3: concern now that we've hit three percent growth, and look, 165 00:08:50,640 --> 00:08:53,400 Speaker 3: we need to get the economy really roaring. We need 166 00:08:53,440 --> 00:08:56,520 Speaker 3: to get four percent growth, three and a half percent growth. 167 00:08:56,600 --> 00:08:58,959 Speaker 3: That would be transformative. It would actually give us a 168 00:08:59,040 --> 00:09:01,720 Speaker 3: chance if you start to run the math of really 169 00:09:02,080 --> 00:09:05,280 Speaker 3: kind of knocking out some of these major budget deficits. 170 00:09:05,400 --> 00:09:07,520 Speaker 2: Growth cures everything. Right. 171 00:09:07,559 --> 00:09:10,480 Speaker 3: If you've ever worked in a business, I remember I 172 00:09:10,520 --> 00:09:12,960 Speaker 3: had a buddy and he's I said, how'd you do? 173 00:09:13,440 --> 00:09:15,400 Speaker 3: And he ended up selling his company for over one 174 00:09:15,440 --> 00:09:18,800 Speaker 3: hundred million dollars. This is about fifteen years ago. I 175 00:09:18,800 --> 00:09:21,560 Speaker 3: said how'd you do? He said, Man, I screwed up everything. 176 00:09:22,000 --> 00:09:24,880 Speaker 3: I So you know that's interesting. I went back and 177 00:09:24,920 --> 00:09:26,280 Speaker 3: I looked at it, and we had to make a 178 00:09:26,320 --> 00:09:29,920 Speaker 3: decision so rapidly. But he said, the company was growing 179 00:09:30,040 --> 00:09:33,160 Speaker 3: so fast that I didn't have to be perfect. I 180 00:09:33,320 --> 00:09:35,920 Speaker 3: just had to steer in the right direction. And for 181 00:09:36,000 --> 00:09:37,800 Speaker 3: those of you out there that have ever been at 182 00:09:37,800 --> 00:09:41,280 Speaker 3: a company that's growing rapidly, you're not all going to 183 00:09:41,360 --> 00:09:44,280 Speaker 3: make the right decisions because you're having to the analogy 184 00:09:44,320 --> 00:09:46,199 Speaker 3: I've used before, it's like trying to change a tire 185 00:09:46,280 --> 00:09:48,920 Speaker 3: while you're driving a car. It's going to be really 186 00:09:48,960 --> 00:09:52,920 Speaker 3: sometimes messy. Right, But if you get that growth rate going, 187 00:09:53,400 --> 00:09:57,040 Speaker 3: if we can start really humming economically, we don't have 188 00:09:57,160 --> 00:09:59,760 Speaker 3: to be perfect on everything. Four percent growth in the 189 00:09:59,800 --> 00:10:03,080 Speaker 3: NAW economy would cure a lot of the ills that 190 00:10:03,120 --> 00:10:03,760 Speaker 3: are out there. 191 00:10:04,360 --> 00:10:04,720 Speaker 2: Well. 192 00:10:04,840 --> 00:10:08,319 Speaker 1: You also have, I think, with Trump in many ways 193 00:10:08,679 --> 00:10:13,000 Speaker 1: the epitome of the guy who does versus the guy 194 00:10:13,200 --> 00:10:19,360 Speaker 1: who conceptualizes right, a guy who has negotiated deals, and look, 195 00:10:19,360 --> 00:10:21,640 Speaker 1: Trump's has negotiated deals that haven't gone his way when 196 00:10:21,640 --> 00:10:24,679 Speaker 1: he was in business. Obviously, there have been successes and failures, 197 00:10:24,679 --> 00:10:28,320 Speaker 1: but to your point, every great success in business, every 198 00:10:28,360 --> 00:10:30,280 Speaker 1: person who has been a great success in business, has 199 00:10:30,280 --> 00:10:32,880 Speaker 1: had many failures along the way, because that is how 200 00:10:32,920 --> 00:10:36,800 Speaker 1: you learn. That is a form of expertise that should 201 00:10:36,840 --> 00:10:40,040 Speaker 1: be far more valued when you're thinking about who to 202 00:10:40,040 --> 00:10:42,840 Speaker 1: put in charge of big decisions for the country instead 203 00:10:42,880 --> 00:10:46,880 Speaker 1: of I have some advanced degree from some economics program. 204 00:10:46,960 --> 00:10:50,840 Speaker 1: Wasn't it to President Bartlett from the fantasyland of the 205 00:10:50,840 --> 00:10:53,439 Speaker 1: West Wing, wasn't here like a PhD from Harvard or 206 00:10:53,480 --> 00:10:55,800 Speaker 1: something in economics. And that's what all the Libs think 207 00:10:55,840 --> 00:10:59,040 Speaker 1: would solve all of our problems. Most of the PhDs 208 00:10:59,080 --> 00:11:01,800 Speaker 1: in economics from from all of the Ivy League schools 209 00:11:01,800 --> 00:11:05,080 Speaker 1: in this country would stink at managing this economy. 210 00:11:05,080 --> 00:11:08,280 Speaker 3: Compared to Trump, it wouldn't even be close. Well, And 211 00:11:08,600 --> 00:11:10,960 Speaker 3: that's why I think there. Look, I love it. I 212 00:11:10,960 --> 00:11:14,440 Speaker 3: mean I'm a history nerd, but history professors are good 213 00:11:14,440 --> 00:11:17,880 Speaker 3: at telling you why something happened one hundred years after 214 00:11:17,960 --> 00:11:20,920 Speaker 3: it happened. We've seen some of these historians that go on. 215 00:11:21,000 --> 00:11:24,000 Speaker 3: Remember Michael Beschlow said, if Trump wins, they're just going 216 00:11:24,080 --> 00:11:25,560 Speaker 3: to line you up and shoot you. 217 00:11:25,559 --> 00:11:28,280 Speaker 2: You know, and you're like, what what are you talking about? 218 00:11:28,280 --> 00:11:29,160 Speaker 2: I don't even know if. 219 00:11:29,000 --> 00:11:31,440 Speaker 1: We're still He actually said that, Yes, that's not even 220 00:11:31,480 --> 00:11:32,400 Speaker 1: he actually said that. 221 00:11:32,480 --> 00:11:34,920 Speaker 3: He actually said that, and he is I think a 222 00:11:35,040 --> 00:11:37,960 Speaker 3: good historian at looking at things that are one hundred 223 00:11:38,000 --> 00:11:42,160 Speaker 3: years old. Economists are very good at telling you why 224 00:11:42,240 --> 00:11:46,400 Speaker 3: something happened after it's already happened. They are very bad 225 00:11:46,600 --> 00:11:50,120 Speaker 3: as a group at predicting for you where we are headed. 226 00:11:50,480 --> 00:11:55,160 Speaker 3: And I think it's just worth contemplating. Challenging conventional wisdom 227 00:11:55,640 --> 00:11:58,719 Speaker 3: is usually how you win. I don't know how many 228 00:11:58,720 --> 00:12:00,560 Speaker 3: people out there really study things, but if you do 229 00:12:00,720 --> 00:12:03,800 Speaker 3: the same thing that everybody else does, it's going to 230 00:12:03,840 --> 00:12:05,480 Speaker 3: be very difficult for you to get ahead. 231 00:12:05,800 --> 00:12:08,200 Speaker 2: You sometimes have to take risk. Trump. 232 00:12:08,559 --> 00:12:12,040 Speaker 3: You can criticize him on a lot. The guy understands negotiations, 233 00:12:12,080 --> 00:12:16,079 Speaker 3: He understands leverage. He certainly understands interest rates, which are 234 00:12:16,120 --> 00:12:20,960 Speaker 3: the foundation of any real estate investment deal basically that 235 00:12:21,080 --> 00:12:25,360 Speaker 3: is done anywhere. And I hope that they're going to 236 00:12:25,400 --> 00:12:29,160 Speaker 3: start to reduce rates because they are too high. And look, 237 00:12:29,200 --> 00:12:31,280 Speaker 3: here is the number one issue in the economy today. 238 00:12:31,679 --> 00:12:35,160 Speaker 3: Number one issue. Housing is out of sorts because we 239 00:12:35,200 --> 00:12:37,800 Speaker 3: went from two and a half percent mortgage to over 240 00:12:37,920 --> 00:12:40,959 Speaker 3: seven percent in record time. And if you were lucky 241 00:12:41,040 --> 00:12:42,760 Speaker 3: enough to get a two and a half, you're frozen 242 00:12:42,800 --> 00:12:45,360 Speaker 3: in place there and if you were unfortunate enough to 243 00:12:45,360 --> 00:12:47,960 Speaker 3: get a seven, you haven't been able to read by 244 00:12:48,040 --> 00:12:50,280 Speaker 3: yet and unlock the entire housing market. 245 00:12:50,480 --> 00:12:52,680 Speaker 1: That is true, but I think you also have to 246 00:12:52,720 --> 00:12:56,320 Speaker 1: pile on top of that, Clay, ten million people came 247 00:12:56,320 --> 00:13:00,520 Speaker 1: into the country illegally in four years. Ten certainly help 248 00:13:00,600 --> 00:13:03,760 Speaker 1: the cost of living for anyone in any city. There 249 00:13:03,760 --> 00:13:07,480 Speaker 1: are people running all kinds of scams where they have 250 00:13:07,760 --> 00:13:09,880 Speaker 1: illegals that are, you know, in a home that's meant 251 00:13:09,880 --> 00:13:12,680 Speaker 1: for four people max. They got thirty illegals living. They're 252 00:13:12,679 --> 00:13:14,520 Speaker 1: all paying them, you know, two hundred and fifty bucks 253 00:13:14,520 --> 00:13:16,959 Speaker 1: a month or something. This is all over the country 254 00:13:17,200 --> 00:13:19,280 Speaker 1: as we and this is another part of why the 255 00:13:19,320 --> 00:13:23,640 Speaker 1: immigration enforcement that Trump is undergoing right now is one 256 00:13:23,679 --> 00:13:25,280 Speaker 1: of the best things that could happen. 257 00:13:25,360 --> 00:13:27,199 Speaker 2: For people who work for a living. 258 00:13:27,559 --> 00:13:29,400 Speaker 1: It will help their wages, it will help the cost 259 00:13:29,400 --> 00:13:32,040 Speaker 1: of housing. What you're saying is obviously also true, which 260 00:13:32,080 --> 00:13:35,000 Speaker 1: is the rate issue that should start. 261 00:13:34,760 --> 00:13:37,640 Speaker 2: To be ameliorated. That's the word of the day. There 262 00:13:37,679 --> 00:13:40,040 Speaker 2: you go. 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Find them on the free iHeartRadio app or 302 00:15:20,960 --> 00:15:22,800 Speaker 6: wherever you get your podcasts. 303 00:15:23,560 --> 00:15:26,600 Speaker 3: Welcome back in Clay Travis Buck Sexton Show. 304 00:15:26,640 --> 00:15:28,400 Speaker 2: Appreciate all of you hanging. 305 00:15:28,120 --> 00:15:30,960 Speaker 3: Out with us as we are rolling through the Wednesday 306 00:15:31,160 --> 00:15:34,480 Speaker 3: edition of the program. A lot of you weighing in 307 00:15:34,760 --> 00:15:37,240 Speaker 3: as you always do, and we appreciate all of you 308 00:15:37,280 --> 00:15:41,760 Speaker 3: who are out there hopping in there. I wanted to 309 00:15:41,840 --> 00:15:44,280 Speaker 3: hit this. This is nice and I appreciate all the 310 00:15:44,600 --> 00:15:46,200 Speaker 3: fun stuff that we get out there. 311 00:15:47,640 --> 00:15:48,200 Speaker 2: AA. 312 00:15:48,320 --> 00:15:52,240 Speaker 3: Podcast listener from Vinnie out by the airport. 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That's pound 373 00:18:51,760 --> 00:18:53,800 Speaker 3: two five zero. 374 00:18:53,920 --> 00:18:56,560 Speaker 1: All right, welcome back in to Clay and Buck here. 375 00:18:56,600 --> 00:19:00,840 Speaker 1: And we've got a story that we absolutely need to 376 00:19:01,080 --> 00:19:05,000 Speaker 1: discuss here with all of you. And it's because this 377 00:19:05,040 --> 00:19:08,640 Speaker 1: is getting a lot of attention, and even I think 378 00:19:08,720 --> 00:19:15,520 Speaker 1: some people out there who are generally or overall supportive 379 00:19:15,720 --> 00:19:19,760 Speaker 1: of Israel in its fight against Hamas have started to 380 00:19:19,760 --> 00:19:23,920 Speaker 1: waver a little bit for a reason that would be 381 00:19:24,040 --> 00:19:28,560 Speaker 1: understandable at least with the specific goal of trying to 382 00:19:28,680 --> 00:19:32,960 Speaker 1: pressure the IDF to get more food to the children 383 00:19:33,000 --> 00:19:35,920 Speaker 1: of Gaza. That's the basic narrative, that's the storyline that's 384 00:19:35,960 --> 00:19:39,040 Speaker 1: out there. Trump has been talking about it, others have 385 00:19:39,160 --> 00:19:42,040 Speaker 1: been talking about it. In fact, here we can get 386 00:19:42,400 --> 00:19:46,240 Speaker 1: President Trump on Gaza. This has cut ten. This is 387 00:19:46,280 --> 00:19:48,800 Speaker 1: the latest thing that he had to say about it. 388 00:19:48,840 --> 00:19:49,199 Speaker 2: Play it. 389 00:19:49,320 --> 00:19:53,199 Speaker 8: I think everybody who lives there pretty cold hearted or 390 00:19:53,280 --> 00:19:57,560 Speaker 8: of course to that nuts. There's nothing you can say 391 00:19:57,600 --> 00:20:00,359 Speaker 8: other than it's sera. When you see the kids and 392 00:20:00,440 --> 00:20:03,280 Speaker 8: those who gets into whether they talk starvation or not, 393 00:20:03,400 --> 00:20:09,560 Speaker 8: those are kids that are starving. I mean they are starving, 394 00:20:09,840 --> 00:20:11,920 Speaker 8: and you see the mothers they love them so much. 395 00:20:12,440 --> 00:20:14,240 Speaker 8: This is nothing they seem to be able to do. 396 00:20:14,600 --> 00:20:17,040 Speaker 8: They got to get them food, and we'll get to get. 397 00:20:16,960 --> 00:20:18,280 Speaker 2: Them for them. 398 00:20:18,440 --> 00:20:21,760 Speaker 1: Clay, As we have been discussing here on the program, 399 00:20:21,840 --> 00:20:24,800 Speaker 1: a couple of things. First off, it strikes a lot 400 00:20:24,840 --> 00:20:29,520 Speaker 1: of us as contrary to what we would think the 401 00:20:30,000 --> 00:20:32,959 Speaker 1: Israeli government and the IDF would do, based on all 402 00:20:33,040 --> 00:20:35,080 Speaker 1: their actions up to this point, that they would willfully 403 00:20:35,160 --> 00:20:37,320 Speaker 1: let children starve if there was a way to prevent that. 404 00:20:37,880 --> 00:20:38,639 Speaker 2: I don't believe it. 405 00:20:39,160 --> 00:20:41,960 Speaker 1: And I'm not saying that there aren't civilian casualties that 406 00:20:42,000 --> 00:20:44,320 Speaker 1: have happened. I'm not saying there is not malnutrition going 407 00:20:44,359 --> 00:20:46,960 Speaker 1: on inside of Gaza. I'm just saying I don't believe 408 00:20:46,960 --> 00:20:49,439 Speaker 1: that it's a policy of the IDF two or the 409 00:20:49,480 --> 00:20:53,679 Speaker 1: Israeli government these Raeli people to starve out. And you 410 00:20:53,760 --> 00:20:57,080 Speaker 1: hear this term genocide being used now by people who 411 00:20:57,359 --> 00:21:00,720 Speaker 1: are very critical of Israel, and even some who aren't 412 00:21:00,720 --> 00:21:04,160 Speaker 1: always that critical of Israel. I've been looking at this 413 00:21:04,640 --> 00:21:07,879 Speaker 1: and thinking to myself, hold on a second, what is 414 00:21:08,000 --> 00:21:11,679 Speaker 1: really going on here? This is very important what is 415 00:21:11,840 --> 00:21:15,720 Speaker 1: actually happening in Gaza. First of all, as we know, 416 00:21:16,720 --> 00:21:20,080 Speaker 1: the narrative is now starting to come out more than 417 00:21:20,119 --> 00:21:22,400 Speaker 1: it is in fact hamas that is preventing the distribution 418 00:21:22,480 --> 00:21:25,639 Speaker 1: of food and seizing food that is being provided to 419 00:21:25,800 --> 00:21:29,200 Speaker 1: Gaza for the civilian population there. That's point one, but 420 00:21:29,359 --> 00:21:33,280 Speaker 1: point two, Clay. This New York Times story that on 421 00:21:34,200 --> 00:21:36,080 Speaker 1: it was a main story for the New York Times. 422 00:21:36,280 --> 00:21:36,880 Speaker 1: They had a. 423 00:21:37,160 --> 00:21:40,080 Speaker 3: Page newspaper for those of us old people like me 424 00:21:40,160 --> 00:21:43,720 Speaker 3: who still read the newspaper. Literally the front page story, 425 00:21:43,760 --> 00:21:46,080 Speaker 3: the one that they considered the most important to tell 426 00:21:46,160 --> 00:21:47,360 Speaker 3: to their readers on that day. 427 00:21:48,000 --> 00:21:51,280 Speaker 1: It was just a few days ago, and there was 428 00:21:51,320 --> 00:21:55,160 Speaker 1: a story where they had a photo of a I mean, 429 00:21:55,200 --> 00:22:02,360 Speaker 1: it was a horrible looking photo in terms of emotionally devastating. 430 00:22:02,400 --> 00:22:06,840 Speaker 1: You see a child who is very skeletal, if you will, 431 00:22:06,880 --> 00:22:10,960 Speaker 1: I mean, looks extremely malnourished, in the hands of a woman. 432 00:22:11,400 --> 00:22:14,440 Speaker 1: And the whole point of the story based on this photo, 433 00:22:14,520 --> 00:22:17,600 Speaker 1: and they chose this photo. The whole point of the 434 00:22:17,600 --> 00:22:20,760 Speaker 1: story is that the children of Gaza are starving to death. 435 00:22:20,840 --> 00:22:23,359 Speaker 1: Look at this because it looked like somebody who would 436 00:22:23,359 --> 00:22:27,520 Speaker 1: be starving to death, something horrible beyond words, something that 437 00:22:27,640 --> 00:22:31,200 Speaker 1: no moral person could countenance, could sit by and allow 438 00:22:31,280 --> 00:22:35,040 Speaker 1: to happen. And so it obviously got a lot of 439 00:22:35,080 --> 00:22:38,920 Speaker 1: attention all over the world. The problem with the story 440 00:22:39,160 --> 00:22:42,760 Speaker 1: is that the photo is not an accurate representation of 441 00:22:42,800 --> 00:22:46,120 Speaker 1: what is going on. Here is the New York Times 442 00:22:46,200 --> 00:22:49,720 Speaker 1: appending an editor's note an editor's note to a story 443 00:22:49,760 --> 00:22:53,520 Speaker 1: about Mohammed Zacharia al much Mutawak, a child in Gaza 444 00:22:53,520 --> 00:22:57,520 Speaker 1: who's diagnosed with severe malnutrition. After publication, this is from 445 00:22:57,520 --> 00:23:01,760 Speaker 1: the New York Times PR Department publication, the Times learned 446 00:23:01,760 --> 00:23:05,879 Speaker 1: that he had pre existing health conditions. Please read more below. 447 00:23:05,920 --> 00:23:11,480 Speaker 1: They give more of this clay. This individual has this child, 448 00:23:11,560 --> 00:23:15,520 Speaker 1: it's still very sad story, has sistic fibrosis and that's 449 00:23:15,600 --> 00:23:19,359 Speaker 1: actually and also other pre existing health conditions. It's not 450 00:23:19,440 --> 00:23:22,520 Speaker 1: a starvation story. They're showing a child who's starving, who's 451 00:23:22,560 --> 00:23:26,160 Speaker 1: not actually starving, but has other pre existing health conditions, 452 00:23:26,200 --> 00:23:29,760 Speaker 1: which they have now offered. They ran a photo that 453 00:23:29,880 --> 00:23:33,680 Speaker 1: is effectively a fake in terms of the story, which 454 00:23:33,720 --> 00:23:35,800 Speaker 1: is what they were telling on the front page of 455 00:23:35,840 --> 00:23:38,680 Speaker 1: the New York Times to tell everybody that the Israelis 456 00:23:38,680 --> 00:23:40,160 Speaker 1: are starving the children of Gaza. 457 00:23:41,240 --> 00:23:44,159 Speaker 3: Yeah, and our friend Carol Markowitz, who's in our podcast network, 458 00:23:44,200 --> 00:23:47,720 Speaker 3: been on the show a lot. She tweeted this as well. 459 00:23:48,320 --> 00:23:52,680 Speaker 3: The brother of this individual was all, who is healthy 460 00:23:53,000 --> 00:23:56,720 Speaker 3: and has evidently no issues, was also cropped out of 461 00:23:56,760 --> 00:23:59,640 Speaker 3: the picture. And she says, and I think she's right, 462 00:24:00,080 --> 00:24:02,720 Speaker 3: should be published on the front page of the paper, 463 00:24:02,960 --> 00:24:08,320 Speaker 3: the correction, not some side x account. And she said, 464 00:24:08,320 --> 00:24:09,879 Speaker 3: if you fell for the hoax, it's on it. This 465 00:24:09,960 --> 00:24:10,760 Speaker 3: is very important. 466 00:24:10,880 --> 00:24:11,080 Speaker 2: Yeah. 467 00:24:11,119 --> 00:24:15,200 Speaker 1: They didn't share the correction on the official New York 468 00:24:15,280 --> 00:24:19,720 Speaker 1: Times account with millions and millions of followers. They shared 469 00:24:19,720 --> 00:24:23,600 Speaker 1: it from the PR Department's tiny account that nobody is 470 00:24:23,640 --> 00:24:25,680 Speaker 1: going to see or pay any attention to. And Clay, 471 00:24:25,680 --> 00:24:28,720 Speaker 1: you already pointed this out too. They had in the 472 00:24:28,800 --> 00:24:33,159 Speaker 1: same photo they cropped out a child who looks wealthy 473 00:24:33,119 --> 00:24:33,760 Speaker 1: and healthy. 474 00:24:33,800 --> 00:24:38,000 Speaker 3: Should have raised issues in the mind of any editor 475 00:24:38,080 --> 00:24:41,199 Speaker 3: that saw this. Right, Wait a minute, one kid is 476 00:24:41,320 --> 00:24:45,159 Speaker 3: healthy and the other one is starving. How often do 477 00:24:45,280 --> 00:24:47,960 Speaker 3: you think that actually happens in the same family. 478 00:24:48,520 --> 00:24:48,800 Speaker 2: Never. 479 00:24:49,400 --> 00:24:52,399 Speaker 3: I mean, I've got multiple kids. I can't imagine a 480 00:24:52,520 --> 00:24:55,919 Speaker 3: scenario where one of my kids looks healthy and the 481 00:24:56,000 --> 00:24:58,520 Speaker 3: other one is starving, and I'm saying, well, it's because 482 00:24:58,560 --> 00:25:01,040 Speaker 3: the whole family is unable to eat. I mean, I 483 00:25:01,040 --> 00:25:03,320 Speaker 3: think you probably would be trying to feed your family 484 00:25:04,160 --> 00:25:06,720 Speaker 3: equally there, So it should have raised a lot of issues. 485 00:25:06,720 --> 00:25:10,640 Speaker 3: And I would say this quick, yeah, go ahead ahead. Now, 486 00:25:10,720 --> 00:25:13,040 Speaker 3: remember when they got the Jason Blair story. I mean 487 00:25:13,040 --> 00:25:14,159 Speaker 3: that's probably been twenty some od. 488 00:25:14,400 --> 00:25:16,880 Speaker 1: He was a serial fabricator, but he was a young 489 00:25:16,920 --> 00:25:19,359 Speaker 1: black reporter, and they were desperate to tell stories of 490 00:25:19,400 --> 00:25:21,040 Speaker 1: how diverse their new newsroom was. 491 00:25:21,080 --> 00:25:24,439 Speaker 3: And you know, yeah, but they put a huge front 492 00:25:24,440 --> 00:25:28,680 Speaker 3: page story out saying this was all fabricated, we got 493 00:25:28,680 --> 00:25:32,040 Speaker 3: this wrong. To Carrol's point, I would argue, this is 494 00:25:32,160 --> 00:25:35,240 Speaker 3: far more significant because the things that he was making up, 495 00:25:35,680 --> 00:25:38,720 Speaker 3: by and large, were just kind of like stories about 496 00:25:38,800 --> 00:25:41,280 Speaker 3: wife in West Virginia or whatever it was. And look, 497 00:25:41,320 --> 00:25:45,040 Speaker 3: you don't want to make that stuff up. But this 498 00:25:45,200 --> 00:25:50,199 Speaker 3: actually alters the terrain of geopolitical negotiation and is intended 499 00:25:50,320 --> 00:25:55,240 Speaker 3: to send the message of Israel as intentionally starving young children. 500 00:25:55,600 --> 00:25:57,520 Speaker 3: And they use this image for that reason. 501 00:25:58,040 --> 00:26:05,520 Speaker 1: It is wildly inflammatory against Israel and against Jews worldwide. 502 00:26:05,920 --> 00:26:09,920 Speaker 1: And that was the purpose of the story, to make 503 00:26:10,080 --> 00:26:14,560 Speaker 1: them Israel the Jews, to make them look like the 504 00:26:14,640 --> 00:26:19,160 Speaker 1: bad guys. After they suffered their own nine to eleven 505 00:26:19,320 --> 00:26:23,760 Speaker 1: on October seventh, after they had the most horrific terrorist 506 00:26:23,800 --> 00:26:28,080 Speaker 1: attack since nine to eleven perpetrated against them, and and 507 00:26:28,240 --> 00:26:32,080 Speaker 1: with a level of sadism on the on from Hamas 508 00:26:32,720 --> 00:26:35,520 Speaker 1: that is shocking to the conscience. Honestly, even for those 509 00:26:35,560 --> 00:26:37,960 Speaker 1: of us who were did things in the g watt 510 00:26:38,040 --> 00:26:42,120 Speaker 1: and saw how evil al Qaeda was and what they 511 00:26:42,119 --> 00:26:45,359 Speaker 1: would do, shocking to the conscience. But this reminds me 512 00:26:45,480 --> 00:26:48,720 Speaker 1: Clay of really this is this is on brand in 513 00:26:48,720 --> 00:26:50,560 Speaker 1: a sense for the New York Times. The New York 514 00:26:50,600 --> 00:26:54,639 Speaker 1: Times is the paper that that published Walter Duranti, who 515 00:26:55,160 --> 00:27:00,439 Speaker 1: on behalf of communism, lied about mass starvation in the 516 00:27:00,480 --> 00:27:03,680 Speaker 1: Soviet Union. Right, this is one of the most infamous 517 00:27:03,720 --> 00:27:06,800 Speaker 1: episodes of twentieth century journalism. Should have told you all 518 00:27:06,840 --> 00:27:09,520 Speaker 1: you need to know about the lib mindset and journals. 519 00:27:09,560 --> 00:27:15,520 Speaker 1: But Walter Duranti lied to cover up mass starvation in 520 00:27:15,600 --> 00:27:18,520 Speaker 1: the Soviet Union back in the nineteen early nineteen thirties, 521 00:27:19,080 --> 00:27:23,359 Speaker 1: and he actually got a Pulitzer Prize for it. Clay, 522 00:27:23,400 --> 00:27:26,120 Speaker 1: doesn't this all ring a bell? Just like the fake 523 00:27:26,200 --> 00:27:29,520 Speaker 1: Russia collusion stories. Those people got pulletzers, they still have them. 524 00:27:29,840 --> 00:27:34,320 Speaker 1: The purpose is not the truth. The purpose is manipulation 525 00:27:35,000 --> 00:27:39,000 Speaker 1: of the masses of the minds of the readers, and 526 00:27:39,080 --> 00:27:43,439 Speaker 1: the purpose here was very clearly. Now is the chance, 527 00:27:43,920 --> 00:27:46,800 Speaker 1: after we saw how horrific Hamas was, and they took 528 00:27:46,920 --> 00:27:50,720 Speaker 1: two hundred plus hostages, and they raped women, and they 529 00:27:50,840 --> 00:27:54,440 Speaker 1: murdered babies, and they did all these horrible things intentionally, 530 00:27:54,560 --> 00:27:58,159 Speaker 1: and on behalf of the people planning October seventh. I mean, 531 00:27:58,440 --> 00:28:01,399 Speaker 1: this was their plan. This wasn't some secondary thing that 532 00:28:01,560 --> 00:28:04,960 Speaker 1: just happened after all that. Now is the chance to 533 00:28:05,040 --> 00:28:08,440 Speaker 1: try to seize the moral high ground for the pro 534 00:28:08,600 --> 00:28:12,640 Speaker 1: Palestinian pro Hamas lunatics. And we're supposed to think it's 535 00:28:12,800 --> 00:28:16,360 Speaker 1: just an error play that The New York Times runs 536 00:28:16,880 --> 00:28:20,560 Speaker 1: a story that is essentially a fake story on when 537 00:28:20,600 --> 00:28:23,280 Speaker 1: you use a photo and say it is a thing 538 00:28:23,800 --> 00:28:25,960 Speaker 1: or represents a thing and it does not, which is 539 00:28:26,000 --> 00:28:28,480 Speaker 1: starvation of a child. That is not starvation that caused 540 00:28:28,480 --> 00:28:30,880 Speaker 1: that child to look that way, as anybody who knows 541 00:28:30,920 --> 00:28:34,320 Speaker 1: anything about the diseases that he had pre existing knows. 542 00:28:34,960 --> 00:28:36,520 Speaker 1: And then they cut out the photo of the healthy 543 00:28:36,520 --> 00:28:37,520 Speaker 1: looking little boy in. 544 00:28:37,480 --> 00:28:41,520 Speaker 3: The same photo it should began to it over again 545 00:28:42,040 --> 00:28:45,320 Speaker 3: on the front page. I would also point this out, 546 00:28:45,360 --> 00:28:48,720 Speaker 3: and I think it's very significant. All of their errors 547 00:28:48,760 --> 00:28:52,600 Speaker 3: have been in favor of Gaza. Do you remember soon 548 00:28:52,680 --> 00:28:57,040 Speaker 3: after October seventh when Israel started to respond after the 549 00:28:57,080 --> 00:29:01,280 Speaker 3: October seventh attack, and all of the major news outlets 550 00:29:01,440 --> 00:29:03,920 Speaker 3: I believe it was, they said that Israel had struck 551 00:29:03,960 --> 00:29:06,160 Speaker 3: a hospital and killed tons of people. Do you remember 552 00:29:06,200 --> 00:29:09,080 Speaker 3: that story? It was on the front page everywhere, and 553 00:29:09,280 --> 00:29:12,480 Speaker 3: it later came out that it was a misfired rocket 554 00:29:12,520 --> 00:29:15,840 Speaker 3: from Gaza that actually from that is from Hamas, that 555 00:29:15,920 --> 00:29:19,320 Speaker 3: actually hit the hospital in Gaza, and so they allowed 556 00:29:19,360 --> 00:29:23,120 Speaker 3: the story to be Oh, Israel's intentionally targeting hospitals and 557 00:29:23,200 --> 00:29:25,600 Speaker 3: killing innocent people. Put it on the front page of 558 00:29:25,600 --> 00:29:29,920 Speaker 3: the newspaper. If your errors look, reporting is hard, right, 559 00:29:30,000 --> 00:29:32,360 Speaker 3: Let's be honest. Trying to tell the truth is a 560 00:29:32,440 --> 00:29:34,920 Speaker 3: hard job when there are lots of people trying to 561 00:29:34,920 --> 00:29:37,080 Speaker 3: manipulate you all the time. So I will say that, 562 00:29:37,360 --> 00:29:40,760 Speaker 3: but if your errors always run the same direction, it 563 00:29:40,880 --> 00:29:44,360 Speaker 3: is a flaw of your reporting that should be addressed 564 00:29:44,480 --> 00:29:46,000 Speaker 3: because it is a sign. 565 00:29:46,280 --> 00:29:48,720 Speaker 1: Well, I don't think it's a slaw. I think that 566 00:29:48,760 --> 00:29:51,240 Speaker 1: gives them too much Creditally, I think that the mission, 567 00:29:51,280 --> 00:29:54,320 Speaker 1: the mission is the propaganda. Actually, I don't think that 568 00:29:54,360 --> 00:29:57,640 Speaker 1: this is a mistake. I think that they know that 569 00:29:57,760 --> 00:30:00,640 Speaker 1: this is what they are supposed to do. They playing 570 00:30:00,800 --> 00:30:04,560 Speaker 1: for their team with this. And what does it say 571 00:30:04,280 --> 00:30:06,800 Speaker 1: if the starvation and the New York Times is still saying, oh, 572 00:30:06,800 --> 00:30:10,840 Speaker 1: there's mass starvation in Gaza, what are the chances that 573 00:30:10,880 --> 00:30:14,000 Speaker 1: there are children And this is a horrific thing to 574 00:30:14,080 --> 00:30:16,560 Speaker 1: even think about, but that there are children who are 575 00:30:16,600 --> 00:30:20,080 Speaker 1: starving to death in massive numbers in Gaza. There are 576 00:30:20,320 --> 00:30:24,800 Speaker 1: skeletal looking children who are clinging to life all over Gaza. 577 00:30:24,840 --> 00:30:26,360 Speaker 1: This is what we are being told by the New 578 00:30:26,440 --> 00:30:29,360 Speaker 1: York Times. But they happen to pick a photo of 579 00:30:29,400 --> 00:30:32,360 Speaker 1: somebody that is not starving, a young child who is 580 00:30:32,400 --> 00:30:36,360 Speaker 1: not starving. Very sad story, assistic fibrosis, but he's not starving, 581 00:30:36,720 --> 00:30:39,280 Speaker 1: and that's the photo they put on the front page 582 00:30:39,320 --> 00:30:42,040 Speaker 1: of the newspaper. You're supposed to think that this is 583 00:30:42,080 --> 00:30:46,800 Speaker 1: an error made in good faith. Absolutely not, Absolutely not. 584 00:30:47,200 --> 00:30:49,280 Speaker 1: And the fact that they won't really correct it in 585 00:30:49,320 --> 00:30:52,160 Speaker 1: a way that will change the perception of the people 586 00:30:52,200 --> 00:30:54,800 Speaker 1: who read the original story all over Clay. 587 00:30:54,920 --> 00:30:56,120 Speaker 2: It was picked up all over the world. 588 00:30:56,920 --> 00:31:00,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's not just New York Times readers, It's all 589 00:31:00,040 --> 00:31:02,800 Speaker 1: over the internet. It's everywhere. What do you think it 590 00:31:02,840 --> 00:31:05,840 Speaker 1: looks like, you know, in the Middle East newspapers and websites, 591 00:31:06,040 --> 00:31:08,120 Speaker 1: to the degree that those things really exist, Well, what 592 00:31:08,120 --> 00:31:09,280 Speaker 1: do you think it looks like there? 593 00:31:09,840 --> 00:31:10,160 Speaker 2: Now? 594 00:31:10,480 --> 00:31:14,680 Speaker 1: After that photo? What do their readers think? It is reckless? 595 00:31:14,680 --> 00:31:18,880 Speaker 1: Beyond words, The New York Times is a disgrace. It 596 00:31:18,960 --> 00:31:21,720 Speaker 1: is not an honest entity. It is not a good 597 00:31:21,800 --> 00:31:28,560 Speaker 1: faith journalistic operation. They are pure left wing anti civilization propagandists, 598 00:31:28,640 --> 00:31:32,080 Speaker 1: and everyone needs to read their articles with that in mind. 599 00:31:33,200 --> 00:31:35,000 Speaker 2: That's how I feel about it. At least so I. 600 00:31:34,920 --> 00:31:37,160 Speaker 3: Think it's true, but I think at a bare minimum 601 00:31:37,200 --> 00:31:40,360 Speaker 3: the pressure I think Carol Markowitz is right. You can't 602 00:31:40,400 --> 00:31:43,200 Speaker 3: have an error that egregious and just post from your 603 00:31:43,240 --> 00:31:46,160 Speaker 3: New York Times pr account, which a you know, probably 604 00:31:46,480 --> 00:31:50,000 Speaker 3: what one in ten thousand people will actually see the correction. 605 00:31:51,000 --> 00:31:53,440 Speaker 3: You should have to put on the front page the 606 00:31:53,480 --> 00:31:57,000 Speaker 3: full picture that you edited and acknowledged that you told 607 00:31:57,160 --> 00:32:00,920 Speaker 3: something that was fundamentally untrue. That impacts in a significant 608 00:32:00,920 --> 00:32:04,680 Speaker 3: way the discussion around how Israel and Gaza. Israel is 609 00:32:04,680 --> 00:32:06,120 Speaker 3: handling the situation in Gaza. 610 00:32:06,160 --> 00:32:07,080 Speaker 2: You're completely right. 611 00:32:07,160 --> 00:32:10,240 Speaker 1: I would just add to this, the people who picked 612 00:32:10,280 --> 00:32:14,840 Speaker 1: that photo did not do so in error. They picked 613 00:32:14,840 --> 00:32:20,160 Speaker 1: that photo because their fundamental role here is to try 614 00:32:20,200 --> 00:32:23,840 Speaker 1: to create at least moral equivalency between Israel and Hamas, 615 00:32:24,160 --> 00:32:27,280 Speaker 1: if not. The Palestinians are the good guys, Israel the 616 00:32:27,440 --> 00:32:30,440 Speaker 1: bad guys. That's their actual job in their minds. 617 00:32:30,880 --> 00:32:34,120 Speaker 3: Also, I will point out, remember all those people out 618 00:32:34,120 --> 00:32:36,440 Speaker 3: there that were supposed to be fact finding experts on 619 00:32:36,520 --> 00:32:41,680 Speaker 3: misinformation and disinformation. This seems like a pretty egregious example 620 00:32:41,880 --> 00:32:45,080 Speaker 3: of that that should be widely covered by other media 621 00:32:45,120 --> 00:32:47,840 Speaker 3: outlets that care about the truth. Are you seeing any 622 00:32:47,880 --> 00:32:50,680 Speaker 3: of those articles, know any of those media discussions. 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Find 653 00:34:21,800 --> 00:34:25,400 Speaker 2: it on the iHeartRadio app or wherever you get your podcasts. 654 00:34:26,120 --> 00:34:29,960 Speaker 3: Welcome back in Clay Travis Vox Sexton Show. Appreciate everybody 655 00:34:30,000 --> 00:34:32,280 Speaker 3: hanging out with us. We'll get some of your calls. 656 00:34:32,280 --> 00:34:34,319 Speaker 3: Eight hundred two eight two two eight eight to two 657 00:34:35,040 --> 00:34:36,600 Speaker 3: Scott in Indiana. 658 00:34:36,960 --> 00:34:38,000 Speaker 2: What you got for us? 659 00:34:39,239 --> 00:34:41,720 Speaker 9: Hey, keep up the good work. I can't tell whether 660 00:34:41,840 --> 00:34:46,319 Speaker 9: Trump thinks Israel starving the people on purpose or not. 661 00:34:47,320 --> 00:34:51,359 Speaker 9: If he uses it would be ironic considering a couple 662 00:34:51,400 --> 00:34:54,480 Speaker 9: of weeks ago he chastised everybody for falling for the 663 00:34:54,480 --> 00:34:59,799 Speaker 9: Epstein hoax. So you think he's do you think this 664 00:34:59,880 --> 00:35:00,759 Speaker 9: is this is real? 665 00:35:00,840 --> 00:35:04,040 Speaker 1: This is really important, This is really important. There is 666 00:35:04,120 --> 00:35:07,560 Speaker 1: widespread reporting that I think is reliable, that there is 667 00:35:08,120 --> 00:35:12,480 Speaker 1: that food is not getting to people insufficient you know, 668 00:35:12,560 --> 00:35:15,960 Speaker 1: insufficient quantity in Gaza, including children who are probably or 669 00:35:16,040 --> 00:35:20,000 Speaker 1: who rather are malnourished, not yet starving that but malnourished 670 00:35:20,000 --> 00:35:22,680 Speaker 1: as a result of it. But Hamas is preventing the 671 00:35:22,680 --> 00:35:25,239 Speaker 1: food from getting to them, is the point. And so 672 00:35:25,400 --> 00:35:28,760 Speaker 1: then to make this an even more emotional issue, they 673 00:35:28,800 --> 00:35:31,319 Speaker 1: pick this photo and they say, oh, see this is 674 00:35:31,360 --> 00:35:34,600 Speaker 1: what Israel is deciding to do to people. So there's 675 00:35:34,640 --> 00:35:38,200 Speaker 1: the who's responsible for it? And then there's the degree 676 00:35:38,480 --> 00:35:41,800 Speaker 1: of how much is food not getting so Hamas is 677 00:35:41,840 --> 00:35:44,320 Speaker 1: preventing food from getting through in the numbers that it 678 00:35:44,360 --> 00:35:46,040 Speaker 1: should be getting or in the quantity it should be 679 00:35:46,040 --> 00:35:49,000 Speaker 1: getting through. And then the New York Times is picking 680 00:35:49,040 --> 00:35:50,960 Speaker 1: this story to make it seem like this is an 681 00:35:51,000 --> 00:35:53,080 Speaker 1: Israeli plot or Israeli decision. 682 00:35:53,680 --> 00:35:59,400 Speaker 3: Also, if Israel wanted to kill everyone in Gaza, they 683 00:35:59,400 --> 00:36:02,160 Speaker 3: could have done it two years ago. They could have 684 00:36:02,840 --> 00:36:08,040 Speaker 3: carpet bombed everyone and legitimately killed everybody who lives in 685 00:36:08,080 --> 00:36:11,279 Speaker 3: gos It. They have the wherewithal and the power and 686 00:36:11,320 --> 00:36:15,840 Speaker 3: the ability to do that. Look at the attempted tactical strikes. 687 00:36:15,880 --> 00:36:18,480 Speaker 3: Look at what happened in Iran. They pretty much only 688 00:36:18,600 --> 00:36:24,960 Speaker 3: killed They hit apartment building units that that Iranian nuclear 689 00:36:25,040 --> 00:36:27,439 Speaker 3: scientists were in and didn't touch anybody else. 690 00:36:27,640 --> 00:36:31,120 Speaker 1: And why let's just put this in the cold, hard reality, 691 00:36:31,239 --> 00:36:33,879 Speaker 1: real polity for a second. At this stage of the game, 692 00:36:33,960 --> 00:36:36,200 Speaker 1: Israel is going to intentionally starve children to death to 693 00:36:36,280 --> 00:36:38,960 Speaker 1: turn the whole world against it. Of course, not that's insane. 694 00:36:39,360 --> 00:36:43,000 Speaker 1: I'm not saying children aren't starving. I'm saying, look at 695 00:36:43,000 --> 00:36:46,359 Speaker 1: who's responsible for preventing the food from getting to them, 696 00:36:46,680 --> 00:36:48,759 Speaker 1: and look at how The New York Times is then 697 00:36:48,760 --> 00:36:51,240 Speaker 1: trying to lie about that culpability.