WEBVTT - Discouraging & Humiliating

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<v Speaker 1>Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio at the

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<v Speaker 1>George Washington Broadcast Center.

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<v Speaker 2>Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty. Armstrong and Getty. And now,

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<v Speaker 2>here's Armstrong and Getty.

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<v Speaker 3>There's a lot of reasons for what's happening right now.

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<v Speaker 3>The most immediate issue is cost of living and gas prices.

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<v Speaker 3>And that is the bottom line. You can read into

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<v Speaker 3>a lot of other things. You can be jubilant about this,

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<v Speaker 3>that or the other. But at the end of the day,

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<v Speaker 3>the American people have here and now concerns. And that's

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<v Speaker 3>really the lesson you got to take away from this.

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<v Speaker 3>And that's the thing that the Democrats are going to

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<v Speaker 3>have to.

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<v Speaker 4>Take away from this.

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<v Speaker 3>They didn't really run on a platform. They didn't really

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<v Speaker 3>run on any legislation. Heavy is the head that wears

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<v Speaker 3>the crown. And now they partially wear.

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<v Speaker 4>It in Washington. Very true. People expect some sort of result.

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<v Speaker 4>So Trump and Republicans won overwhelmingly. Two years ago this week,

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<v Speaker 4>only two years ago, 24 months. That's not very long ago.

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<v Speaker 4>Do you remember how what an ass kicking that was?

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<v Speaker 4>Do you remember all those maps and charts you saw

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<v Speaker 4>with like every every county in America? But one, I

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<v Speaker 4>think getting redder to 24 months ago. But Trump had

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<v Speaker 4>gone around because people don't understand the difference between inflation

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<v Speaker 4>and prices, convincing people prices were going to go down

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<v Speaker 4>when inflation went down. And that ain't how it works anyway.

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<v Speaker 4>So when that prices actually didn't come down, now the

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<v Speaker 4>Democrats are in the same position.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, people feel like things are too expensive. What are

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<v Speaker 4>you going to do about it? You got any plan

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<v Speaker 4>to do anything about that? What are you going to do?

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<v Speaker 5>All of our policies are inflationary, so I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, right.

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<v Speaker 4>A couple of, looking at just some of the notes

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<v Speaker 4>I took last night are screen captures of tweets. This

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<v Speaker 4>is a good one from David Drucker, our old friend

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<v Speaker 4>David Drucker. We've had on a million times. After multiple

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<v Speaker 4>backlash elections and party control flips in Congress and the

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<v Speaker 4>White House over the last quarter century, it should be

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<v Speaker 4>clear that there's always another election around the corner and

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<v Speaker 4>the country isn't on some perpetual verge of being lost.

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<v Speaker 4>I would agree. So, cool your jets, as people say.

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<v Speaker 2>Got another funny one I wanted to get to.

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<v Speaker 4>Go ahead if you got something as I look for

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<v Speaker 4>my funny one.

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<v Speaker 5>Well, I'm still digging for information on what we were

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<v Speaker 5>discussing during the break.

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<v Speaker 4>I mentioned the Ann Coulter tweet, which made me laugh

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<v Speaker 4>out loud last night. Hard to believe the Darlene Graham

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<v Speaker 4>era is coming to an end. The lioness of the Senate.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, my God.

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<v Speaker 5>You want to talk about lack of enthusiasm for Trump

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<v Speaker 5>and Darlene from King of the Hill, Graham? Every district,

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<v Speaker 5>or is it every county? In South Carolina, which is

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<v Speaker 5>the ruby reddest of states, every county got bluer. Every

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<v Speaker 5>single one. I mean, there was a miserable lack of

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<v Speaker 5>enthusiasm among Republicans.

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<v Speaker 2>Almost unbelievable.

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<v Speaker 4>It's short, so let's go ahead and hear a little

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<v Speaker 4>bit from her concession speech. Tonight was not the result.

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<v Speaker 4>Any of us wanting in this room or around the country,

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<v Speaker 4>but we cannot.

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<v Speaker 1>Exit the fight.

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<v Speaker 6>This is a tough cycle.

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<v Speaker 5>And all of us need to be involved as we

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<v Speaker 5>chart a path forward.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm sorry, my heart rate went to two, and I

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<v Speaker 4>almost fell over. Your heart rate should be higher than two. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>I honestly believe she didn't want to be senator. She's like,

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<v Speaker 4>how did I get caught up in this? This is

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<v Speaker 4>going to be the most miserable six years of my life.

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<v Speaker 4>How quickly can I resign? But anyway, Trump talked.

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<v Speaker 5>Her into it to running and she hated the process.

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<v Speaker 5>She didn't want to be a senator. They could barely

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<v Speaker 5>force her at gunpoint to go up there and make

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<v Speaker 5>that concession speech. She mumbled her way through it, then

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<v Speaker 5>went back home and breathed the sigh of deep, deep relief.

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<v Speaker 4>Guaranteed. I want to be at home with my cat

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<v Speaker 4>knitting and doing what I do. I had a good life.

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<v Speaker 4>I like this. Do not discount the possibility that John

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<v Speaker 4>Fetterman will simply eat many of the new senators. I

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<v Speaker 4>think that is.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, wow. That is just not helpful at all.

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<v Speaker 4>Trump did tweet out last night before he calmed down.

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<v Speaker 4>I thought I was happy with the way Trump handled

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<v Speaker 4>it on the broadcast last night when he got on

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<v Speaker 4>there and he said, congratulations to the Democrats. You know,

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<v Speaker 4>you fought a good fight and, you know, I'm willing

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<v Speaker 4>to work with you and all that sort of stuff.

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<v Speaker 4>I accept the results. When nut jobs had been predicting

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<v Speaker 4>he was going to call out the army and lose

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<v Speaker 4>his mind and all that sort of stuff. But he

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<v Speaker 4>did tweet this out during as results were coming in

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<v Speaker 4>last night. I wasn't on the ballot. And if I was,

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<v Speaker 4>we would have won in a landslide. Thank you for

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<v Speaker 4>your attention to this matter.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay.

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<v Speaker 4>If you say so.

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<v Speaker 2>Does he believe that?

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<v Speaker 4>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know either.

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<v Speaker 4>And then maybe the biggest question that is hanging out

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<v Speaker 4>there right now, and I would guess they're going to

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<v Speaker 4>have meeting upon meeting upon meeting about this until January

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<v Speaker 4>20th behind closed doors, the Democrats, to figure out what

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<v Speaker 4>they want to do. Robert Garcia, Democrat, California, he will

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<v Speaker 4>be the chair of the House Oversight Committee. That's the

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<v Speaker 4>committee that starts subpoenaing people and doing investigations. And he

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<v Speaker 4>had a two-word message that he tweeted out last night,

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<v Speaker 4>lawyer up. Now, that's just one House member.

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<v Speaker 5>Ron Wyden of Oregon said one word, subpoenas.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, that's just a couple House members. They don't get

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<v Speaker 4>to make the decision on their own. Wyden's a senator, but...

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<v Speaker 4>Hakeem Jeffries and Kamala Harris have indicated and Chuck Schumer

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<v Speaker 4>have indicated that they don't think impeachment is the road

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<v Speaker 4>to go down. Whether or not they can hold back

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<v Speaker 4>their horses, I do not know. I agree with what

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<v Speaker 4>Gary Dietrich said last hour. That's not what the country wants.

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<v Speaker 4>People didn't vote for you. Some people did. But you

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<v Speaker 4>didn't win overwhelmingly last night, especially in places like Texas,

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<v Speaker 4>because they're all excited about impeaching Donald Trump.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, right.

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<v Speaker 5>You know, anything beyond what I'm about to say might

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<v Speaker 5>be true, but it's just kind of missing the main point.

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<v Speaker 5>People care about their family finances, trusted Trump to make

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<v Speaker 5>them better.

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<v Speaker 2>He made them worse. That's it. Everything else is just details.

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<v Speaker 5>And so the depth of anger over that surprised me

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<v Speaker 5>a little bit because of the loathing of the Democratic

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<v Speaker 5>Party that most Americans hold.

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<v Speaker 2>Their approval ratings are.

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<v Speaker 5>Horrific, just historically miserably low. And yet, even in the

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<v Speaker 5>reddest states, people either didn't turn out or they said,

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<v Speaker 5>you know what, I'm going to punish you by giving

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<v Speaker 5>my vote to the Democrats, even though I hate them.

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<v Speaker 2>That's how fundamental....

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<v Speaker 5>Inflation is, and you know, you can say pocketbook issues

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<v Speaker 5>or the kitchen table issues or the economy or Jeff

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<v Speaker 5>it's inflation.

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<v Speaker 2>If inflation's high, nothing else matters.

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<v Speaker 4>If I was Hakeem Jeffries, who will be the speaker

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<v Speaker 4>of the house or Chuck Schumer, who's going to be

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<v Speaker 4>the leader of the Senate, I would get my guys

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<v Speaker 4>and women in a room and close the door and

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<v Speaker 4>take away their cell phones. So nobody can recording this

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<v Speaker 4>and say, look, we're the least popular we have ever

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<v Speaker 4>been in our party's history.

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<v Speaker 2>All right.

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<v Speaker 4>We had a great night the other night, but let's

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<v Speaker 4>not forget, we are as unpopular as we have ever been.

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<v Speaker 4>Enthusiasm for us being in charge could vanish like that.

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<v Speaker 2>All right?

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<v Speaker 5>Let's keep that in mind, everyone. Let's just enrich our cronies.

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<v Speaker 5>That's why we're here.

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<v Speaker 4>We are not FDR in 1932. Everybody keeps thinking they're

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<v Speaker 4>FDR in 1932 when he had something like 88 senators elected.

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<v Speaker 4>and 85% of the House members, and you can do

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<v Speaker 4>whatever the hell you wanted. That ain't what's going on.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 5>Hakeem Jeffries will be the Speaker of the House of Representatives.

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<v Speaker 5>He will become a household name, and I just wanted

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<v Speaker 5>to warn everybody, including Katie, that I will be referring

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<v Speaker 5>to him as Hock-Tua Jeffries.

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<v Speaker 4>Ooh.

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<v Speaker 2>So, just fair warning.

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<v Speaker 4>And so Mike Johnson has already announced he will not

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<v Speaker 4>run for Minority Leader in the Senate for the Republicans.

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<v Speaker 4>Steve Scalise has announced he will run, and Jim Jordan,

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<v Speaker 4>because he thinks we have too many jackets in government

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<v Speaker 4>right now.

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<v Speaker 5>Oh, yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>We need more people in shirt sleeves. Let's bear our

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<v Speaker 2>forearms and get to work. Exactly. Says Jim Jordan.

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<v Speaker 5>All right.

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<v Speaker 2>All right. All right. So what do you want to

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<v Speaker 2>know about the Virginia abortion thing?

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<v Speaker 4>Ooh, do I want to know this? So they locked

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<v Speaker 4>in yesterday in their state some pretty extreme abortion law.

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<v Speaker 4>I didn't even want to read the details.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you know what?

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<v Speaker 5>I couldn't find my favorite analysis of it. It is

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<v Speaker 5>fairly difficult to get through the veil of the mainstream

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<v Speaker 5>media's coverage of this because they're all pro-abortion. And the

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<v Speaker 5>ballot measure itself needs interpreting.

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<v Speaker 4>Because they use language like reproductive freedom and stuff like

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<v Speaker 4>that when they're talking about killing babies.

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<v Speaker 5>Right, and in blue states, and Virginia used to be reddish,

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<v Speaker 5>then purplish, and now it's pretty blue. In blue states,

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<v Speaker 5>the ballot measures are brutally dishonest. I mean, California, there

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<v Speaker 5>have been some through the years that have been absolutely hilarious.

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<v Speaker 5>I mean, the stop robbing old ladies for their pension

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<v Speaker 5>checks measure would be called by the Democrats deny funding

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<v Speaker 5>to schools measure.

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<v Speaker 7>Right.

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<v Speaker 2>So here's the actual wording.

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<v Speaker 5>Should the Constitution of Virginia be amended to protect the

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<v Speaker 5>freedom to make personal decisions about prenatal care, childbirth, postpartum care,

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<v Speaker 5>birth control, abortion, miscarriage management? and protect doctors, nurses, and

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<v Speaker 5>patients from being punished for these decisions and allow for

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<v Speaker 5>restrictions on access to abortion during the third trimester of pregnancy,

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<v Speaker 5>except when the patient's health is at risk or the

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<v Speaker 5>pregnancy cannot survive. And the thing, you have to get

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<v Speaker 5>really into the analysis of this because, for instance, the

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<v Speaker 5>third trimester part, The way it's phrased, you think, well, okay,

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<v Speaker 5>thank God there are going to be restrictions on access

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<v Speaker 5>to abortion during the third trimester.

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<v Speaker 4>Everybody hates that. Look at the polling. Democrats, Republicans, liberals, conservatives, men, women,

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<v Speaker 4>people do not like third trimester abortion.

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<v Speaker 5>And again, this will be a broad brush description because

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<v Speaker 5>I don't have the analysis that I thought was really,

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<v Speaker 5>really good in front of me.

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<v Speaker 2>I couldn't find it.

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<v Speaker 5>But The long and short of the third trimester stuff

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<v Speaker 5>is that the limitations are extremely tenuous and easy to

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<v Speaker 5>get around. I have a doctor who says, yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 5>he puts out a cigarette. Yeah, the health is at risk. So, yeah,

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<v Speaker 5>it's okay. Where do I sign? And you can have

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<v Speaker 5>a third trimester abortion. Now, that may be a slight overstatement,

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<v Speaker 5>but it's close to accurate.

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<v Speaker 4>All right, I just saw, we got to play this

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<v Speaker 4>again because it's been a couple hours now. Oh, yes.

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<v Speaker 4>Maybe when we come back. I just saw El Sayed

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<v Speaker 4>up on the TV. Has there ever been anybody more

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<v Speaker 4>pleased with his own act than he was last night? Well,

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<v Speaker 4>not only that. He made Barack Obama look like your

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<v Speaker 4>local Methodist minister in terms of pleased with himself.

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<v Speaker 5>Well, his gloating and touchdown dancing over his prone opponent

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<v Speaker 5>was unbelievable.

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<v Speaker 4>That's not usually the way we do things.

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<v Speaker 2>No, no, no.

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<v Speaker 5>So you're a much more hardworking, decent American than that gentleman.

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<v Speaker 2>Don't get me started.

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<v Speaker 5>You've accumulated a little bit of wealth the right way,

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<v Speaker 7>Armstrong and Getty.

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<v Speaker 2>My name.

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<v Speaker 8>Is Abdulrahman Mohamed Al-Sayed. And I am so proud and

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<v Speaker 8>honored to stand here as your senator-elect from.

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<v Speaker 4>The great state of Michigan. That is Al-Sayed, who won

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<v Speaker 4>up in Michigan quite easily. He goes on in his

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<v Speaker 4>acceptance speech.

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<v Speaker 8>Up until right about now, you might have noticed I

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<v Speaker 8>always say, inshallah, or God willing, Whenever the outcome of

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<v Speaker 8>this race was mentioned. But today, tonight, we can turn

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<v Speaker 8>that inshallah into alhamdulillah.

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<v Speaker 4>Alhamdulillah. where a candidate for a major office wins and

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<v Speaker 4>doesn't go with the whole gracious acceptance speech of my

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<v Speaker 4>opponent just called me and congratulated me on the win.

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<v Speaker 4>It was a hard-fought battle, and they said they're willing

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<v Speaker 4>to work with me and blah, blah, blah, and I'm

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<v Speaker 4>willing to work with them. And if the crowd boos you, no, no, no, no, no.

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<v Speaker 2>I want to be a senator for all Michiganders.

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<v Speaker 4>Everybody does that.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't even.

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<v Speaker 4>Remember Trump not doing that when he won the two

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<v Speaker 4>times he won. But El Sayed was not having any

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<v Speaker 4>of that. Here he is after he beat Mike Rogers

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<v Speaker 4>last night. I want you to let him know.

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<v Speaker 9>Let him know that we together fighting for something bigger.

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<v Speaker 2>We won.

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<v Speaker 4>So Mike, enjoy your retirement.

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<v Speaker 9>I know you got a house in Florida and two yachts. See,

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<v Speaker 9>you chose hate and Michigan chose hope.

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<v Speaker 4>May we never have.

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<v Speaker 9>To see the likes of you in the state again.

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<v Speaker 4>Whoa. So another norm broken. I guess the era of

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<v Speaker 4>concession speeches where you say nice that you don't continue

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<v Speaker 4>the campaign. That era is over, apparently.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, it is. Yes, it is.

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<v Speaker 5>To what extent will Abdul Rahman Mohammed El-Sayed show his

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<v Speaker 5>true colors?

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<v Speaker 2>In his stint as a senator for as long as

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<v Speaker 2>it lasts. I don't know.

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<v Speaker 4>In terms of the I want to be a senator

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<v Speaker 4>for all Americans, he continues to stick his thumb in

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<v Speaker 4>the eye as we roll on. J.D.

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<v Speaker 2>Habibi.

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<v Speaker 8>There is this delicious irony in the fact.

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<v Speaker 9>That you're constitutionally obligated to swear me in in January.

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<v Speaker 4>Man, that is too much.

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<v Speaker 2>So you know what that means? Wolverine won, Buckeyes zero.

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<v Speaker 5>Again, that's a funny line in Michigan, but yeah, there's

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<v Speaker 5>not a lot of brotherhood in the Muslim Brotherhood, apparently.

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<v Speaker 4>No, I hate you, you hate me, and you have

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<v Speaker 4>to swear me in. Just take a suck of that.

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<v Speaker 4>Is not what people usually do.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah. You know, J.D.

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<v Speaker 5>Vance ought to do an hour-long, and I would be

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<v Speaker 5>happy to co-write this for him if you'd like, an

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<v Speaker 5>hour-long description of how Islamism is fundamentally incompatible with the U.S.

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<v Speaker 5>Constitution for a number of reasons, including the fact that

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<v Speaker 5>it sorts citizens into the categories of Muslim and non-Muslim,

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<v Speaker 5>or dhimmi. under the law, and it treats them differently

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<v Speaker 5>and brutally if you're non-Muslim. Do an hour-long speech of that,

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<v Speaker 5>then turn and say, all right, I got to swear

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<v Speaker 5>in Abdul Rahman Muhammad Al-Sayed.

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<v Speaker 2>And did you hear all that?

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<v Speaker 5>Did you catch all that? Okay, now you're going to

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<v Speaker 5>swear allegiance to the Constitution. Okay, let's get this done

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<v Speaker 5>and be kind of fun. Well, to your point, he

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<v Speaker 5>went on with his usual stick here.

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<v Speaker 2>I want to say something here.

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<v Speaker 8>See, They try to call you hateful if you believe

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<v Speaker 8>that Palestinian kids should get to grow up in the

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<v Speaker 8>land of their forefathers without.

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<v Speaker 9>Being murdered by our tax dollars. If you believe in

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<v Speaker 9>equal rights to peace, dignity, and self-determination, that's not hate,

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<v Speaker 9>it's love. Michiganders, we want our taxes spent here, for

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<v Speaker 9>schools here, and healthcare here, and infrastructure here.

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<v Speaker 2>We don't want our.

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<v Speaker 9>Money sent into apartheid or genocide or war.

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<v Speaker 5>He does such a good job of shooting down points

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<v Speaker 5>nobody has ever made. And combating arguments that nobody would

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<v Speaker 5>ever pose.

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<v Speaker 4>Doubling down on genocide from the stage in your acceptance speech.

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<v Speaker 7>Yes.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow.

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<v Speaker 5>That is 100% critical theory, victim oppressor, settler, colonist, neo-Marxism.

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<v Speaker 2>A hundred percent.

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<v Speaker 4>You know what I would have loved? I would have

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<v Speaker 4>loved if Bill Clinton could have been on stage debating

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<v Speaker 4>that point with him last night. We had a deal

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<v Speaker 4>for the Palestinians. They could have raised their kids in

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<v Speaker 4>their own land, but they walked away from it twice.

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<v Speaker 2>Because they wanted to kill the Jews. They wanted it all,

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<v Speaker 2>and to kill the Jews was the problem.

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<v Speaker 4>Lonnie Chen's one of the best political pundits around, and

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<v Speaker 4>we're going to talk to him coming up next. I

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<v Speaker 4>have some stats that will blow your mind, and I

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<v Speaker 4>want to hear him react to them also.

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<v Speaker 2>Armstrong and Getty. What is our assignment?

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<v Speaker 6>First, Americans want Washington to bring down the cost of living. Second,

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<v Speaker 6>Americans want us to clean up corruption in government. They

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<v Speaker 6>know that Trump is the most corrupt president in American history.

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<v Speaker 6>No American should have to make trade-offs at the supermarket

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<v Speaker 6>while Trump is making insider trades on the stock market.

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<v Speaker 6>And third, they want us to check on Trump's chaos

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<v Speaker 6>at home and abroad. We've seen too many Americans die

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<v Speaker 6>on our streets and in uniform overseas because of Trump's

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<v Speaker 6>erratic judgment. The American people don't know what the heck

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<v Speaker 6>we're fighting for in Iran.

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<v Speaker 2>He's never made it clear. He changes his mind.

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<v Speaker 4>So that's Chuck Schumer is going to be the leader

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<v Speaker 4>of the Senate laying out why he thinks the Democrats

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<v Speaker 4>won and what people want out of him. How big

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<v Speaker 4>an ass-whipping was it last night? I hadn't come across

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<v Speaker 4>these numbers. This will lead us into talking with Lonnie Chen.

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<v Speaker 4>So the 94 Revolution, it was called, when the Republicans

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<v Speaker 4>took back the House after 50 years, the Democrats running it.

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<v Speaker 4>Republicans won the popular vote by 6.8 points. The wipeout

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<v Speaker 4>with Bush's midterm in 2006, Democrats won by 7.9. 2010,

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<v Speaker 4>when Obama got wiped out, it was 6.8 win for

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<v Speaker 4>the Republicans. 2018 was 8.6. The deal. are on track

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<v Speaker 4>for a 13-point popular vote win across America. You have

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<v Speaker 4>to go back to Watergate 1974 to get those kind

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<v Speaker 4>of numbers. This is, as Tim Alberta, who's a guy

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<v Speaker 4>who crunches numbers, said, this is an election to which

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<v Speaker 4>every future midterm will be compared.

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<v Speaker 2>Good Lord.

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<v Speaker 5>To discuss that and more, welcome Lanhee Chen, David and

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<v Speaker 5>Diane Steffi Fellow in American Public Policy Studies at the

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<v Speaker 5>Hoover Institution and the Director of Domestic Policy Studies at

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<v Speaker 5>Stanford University.

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<v Speaker 2>Lanhee, welcome, sir. Thank you. Good to be with you.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, you look at Watergate 74, pretty easy to

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<v Speaker 4>figure out why voters were choosing one party over another.

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<v Speaker 4>Coming out of Watergate, right? How about this one? What's

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<v Speaker 4>your explanation?

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<v Speaker 7>I think there's a lot of things. I mean, I think,

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<v Speaker 7>first of all, what you saw was just a lot

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<v Speaker 7>of voter frustration with the state of the economy. I mean,

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<v Speaker 7>I think the reality is that this economy has been

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<v Speaker 7>really tough for some period of time. And it's not

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<v Speaker 7>just like the last two years. I think it has

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<v Speaker 7>been a sustained period of inflation, eating away at paychecks,

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<v Speaker 7>rising costs for energy and housing. Again, I don't think

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<v Speaker 7>this is new. But I do think that voters wanted

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<v Speaker 7>to send a signal that whatever is happening in Washington

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<v Speaker 7>isn't working. And I do think that that was part

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<v Speaker 7>of it. I think that there is also a sense,

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<v Speaker 7>I mean, you know, obviously Chuck Schumer is prone to

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<v Speaker 7>some embellishment. But I do think that there is some

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<v Speaker 7>frustration that that lack of progress on those economic issues

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<v Speaker 7>is related to what people perceive as being the administration

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<v Speaker 7>not keeping its eye on the ball.

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<v Speaker 2>On important issues.

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<v Speaker 7>And, and yes, it was.

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<v Speaker 4>What do you mean keep his eye on the ball?

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<v Speaker 4>Trump was at the reflective pool the day before the election,

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<v Speaker 4>making it clear that that was not here about the caulk,

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<v Speaker 4>the best copper piping you can get keeping the eye

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<v Speaker 4>on the ball. That's not fair.

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<v Speaker 2>All right.

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<v Speaker 5>So you are, you are an intelligent and sober commentator

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<v Speaker 5>as I am neither. I would like to assert something

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<v Speaker 5>and get your reaction to it. In the presidential election,

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<v Speaker 5>the last one, America said, look, Trump, you're a bit

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<v Speaker 5>of a nut job.

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<v Speaker 2>You're erratic. We didn't like January 6th. You know, we're

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<v Speaker 2>not sure what to.

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<v Speaker 5>Think of you, but by golly, you got that economy

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<v Speaker 5>humming and my life was pretty good.

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<v Speaker 2>So we're going to elect you. Just get that right.

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<v Speaker 4>Here's the case of the country.

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<v Speaker 2>And he didn't. Is there much more to it than that?

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, I mean, listen, that is, again, I think that's

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<v Speaker 7>the overlay. But, I mean, we could talk about all

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<v Speaker 7>sorts of issues that I think were contributing factors that

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<v Speaker 7>made it worse, right? I think we all expected that

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<v Speaker 7>the House would go to the Democrats. I think we

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<v Speaker 7>thought the Senate would be close. But what makes it

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<v Speaker 7>a historic election is the factor you mentioned. Plus, let

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<v Speaker 7>me give you one example, data centers, okay? In a

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<v Speaker 7>lot of states, there was a ton of advertising run

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<v Speaker 7>by Democrats on how Republicans were too cozy with tech.

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<v Speaker 7>And as a result, they basically argued Republicans wanted to

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<v Speaker 7>put data centers up in all these communities. And that

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<v Speaker 7>was an issue that further accentuated this feeling amongst people

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<v Speaker 7>that Republicans were out of touch. And I think that

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<v Speaker 7>that's an example of an issue that was under the radar.

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<v Speaker 7>It was under the radar in some ways. But that

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<v Speaker 7>was responsible for even worse outcomes in places like Texas

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<v Speaker 7>and Ohio, where Republicans really got creamed in a way

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<v Speaker 7>that people didn't expect. So, yes, I think you guys

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<v Speaker 7>are right about the overall issue.

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<v Speaker 5>Well, and one more thing, because unlike a Clinton who

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<v Speaker 5>might have brilliantly triangulated that issue in one way or another,

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<v Speaker 5>Trump just said, if you're against him, you're stupid.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 7>I mean, listen, I, I think, um, sometimes this is

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<v Speaker 7>one thing I will say, I, I listened to and

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<v Speaker 7>participated in a lot of analysis last night and there's

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<v Speaker 7>a tendency to overthink these things. There's a tendency to

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<v Speaker 7>overthink these things as well.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay.

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<v Speaker 7>And to try to read more into it, then people

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<v Speaker 7>were pissed and they wanted to send a signal and

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<v Speaker 7>that's what we have.

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<v Speaker 4>I knew it was big, but I didn't know it

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<v Speaker 4>was almost Watergate big. That is something. That is an

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<v Speaker 4>unhappy electorate.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, I mean, I actually thought, you know, one of

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<v Speaker 7>the theories I had going into last night was that

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<v Speaker 7>what would limit the ability of Democrats to have a

0:24:23.609 --> 0:24:27.170
<v Speaker 7>huge majority in the House was that we had many

0:24:27.340 --> 0:24:31.080
<v Speaker 7>fewer what were what were publicly perceived as competitive seats.

0:24:31.180 --> 0:24:31.320
<v Speaker 8>Right.

0:24:31.340 --> 0:24:33.480
<v Speaker 7>So if you think about the makeup of the country

0:24:33.500 --> 0:24:37.540
<v Speaker 7>and you think about congressional districts across the country. If

0:24:37.580 --> 0:24:41.760
<v Speaker 7>you go back 20 years, there were roughly double the number,

0:24:42.040 --> 0:24:45.080
<v Speaker 7>double to triple the number, actually, of seats that were

0:24:45.119 --> 0:24:49.320
<v Speaker 7>politically competitive. In other words, the margin between Democrats and

0:24:49.380 --> 0:24:52.790
<v Speaker 7>Republicans was pretty tight in those districts. Those districts have

0:24:52.880 --> 0:24:55.909
<v Speaker 7>basically disappeared. And so people thought, well, that puts a

0:24:56.010 --> 0:24:59.490
<v Speaker 7>cap on the number of seats that could swing because

0:24:59.530 --> 0:25:02.510
<v Speaker 7>you've got safe Republican seats, safe Democrat seats. What we

0:25:02.570 --> 0:25:05.439
<v Speaker 7>saw last night is actually There's a number of these

0:25:05.480 --> 0:25:08.320
<v Speaker 7>seats that we thought were not swing seats that actually

0:25:08.380 --> 0:25:12.330
<v Speaker 7>became swing seats, right? You have Democrats winning seats that

0:25:12.420 --> 0:25:14.830
<v Speaker 7>Trump won by 9, 10 points.

0:25:15.430 --> 0:25:16.990
<v Speaker 2>California, here's a good example.

0:25:17.150 --> 0:25:19.410
<v Speaker 7>In California, in 2011, 15 years ago in 2011, there

0:25:19.450 --> 0:25:28.760
<v Speaker 7>were 19 Republicans in the House. There were 11 in 2021.

0:25:28.750 --> 0:25:31.550
<v Speaker 7>Guess how many there will be today, max, or in

0:25:31.590 --> 0:25:33.040
<v Speaker 7>January when the new Congress takes over?

0:25:33.260 --> 0:25:33.820
<v Speaker 2>Four.

0:25:34.440 --> 0:25:37.520
<v Speaker 7>Four Republicans from the entire state of California in the

0:25:37.560 --> 0:25:41.140
<v Speaker 7>House of Representatives. That is a remarkable number to me.

0:25:41.420 --> 0:25:44.610
<v Speaker 7>So anyway, it's just interesting because what happened last night

0:25:44.670 --> 0:25:46.530
<v Speaker 7>is seats that were not supposed to be swing seats

0:25:46.590 --> 0:25:47.450
<v Speaker 7>became swing seats.

0:25:48.690 --> 0:25:51.490
<v Speaker 5>Lonhee Chen on the line. So, Lonhee, let's focus on

0:25:51.530 --> 0:25:56.490
<v Speaker 5>the future. Let's be future-oriented. And you've been at the

0:25:56.630 --> 0:25:59.080
<v Speaker 5>heart of this, folks who don't know Lonhee's resume. He's

0:25:59.280 --> 0:26:03.320
<v Speaker 5>been a campaign advisor and analyst as campaigns form and

0:26:03.359 --> 0:26:07.300
<v Speaker 5>candidates decide to run and the party searches for its identity.

0:26:07.720 --> 0:26:09.740
<v Speaker 5>What is the next two years going to look like

0:26:09.800 --> 0:26:11.000
<v Speaker 5>on the Republican side of the aisle?

0:26:13.690 --> 0:26:15.310
<v Speaker 7>I mean I think it's a lot of soul-searching, to

0:26:15.330 --> 0:26:19.200
<v Speaker 7>be honest with you, because I do think that there

0:26:19.320 --> 0:26:21.020
<v Speaker 7>are these– I mean I think you've heard a number

0:26:21.060 --> 0:26:25.590
<v Speaker 7>of Republicans this morning already talking about it. Ron DeSantis

0:26:25.609 --> 0:26:29.430
<v Speaker 7>gave an interview where basically he said people got fed

0:26:29.550 --> 0:26:33.520
<v Speaker 7>up with Trump. He didn't say Trump specifically, but his

0:26:33.600 --> 0:26:35.479
<v Speaker 7>point was, you know, this point we've been talking about,

0:26:35.500 --> 0:26:37.340
<v Speaker 7>which is the administration took its eye off the ball.

0:26:38.500 --> 0:26:39.220
<v Speaker 2>You know, you had J.D.

0:26:39.260 --> 0:26:44.270
<v Speaker 7>Vance even saying, listen, the coalition that Trump-Vance put together

0:26:44.310 --> 0:26:48.590
<v Speaker 7>in 2024 is not the coalition anymore. There's going to

0:26:48.609 --> 0:26:51.970
<v Speaker 7>be a lot of discussions about, A, what the winning

0:26:52.100 --> 0:26:54.960
<v Speaker 7>coalition for Republicans will look like in the future. That's

0:26:55.020 --> 0:26:59.320
<v Speaker 7>a political conversation. But B, what are the issues and

0:26:59.580 --> 0:27:02.980
<v Speaker 7>what's the posture that Republicans should be taking on these issues?

0:27:03.020 --> 0:27:07.570
<v Speaker 7>Because ultimately, while Democrats did win a big victory last night,

0:27:07.830 --> 0:27:11.510
<v Speaker 7>they've now got to govern, right? They've got the Congress

0:27:11.550 --> 0:27:12.770
<v Speaker 7>and they've got to figure out what they're doing. What

0:27:12.790 --> 0:27:15.630
<v Speaker 7>does the Republican Party in opposition in the Congress look like?

0:27:16.030 --> 0:27:17.859
<v Speaker 7>And then just the last thing I'll say is this,

0:27:17.950 --> 0:27:22.360
<v Speaker 7>which is there is a possibility that Democrats overread their

0:27:22.400 --> 0:27:25.340
<v Speaker 7>results from last night for some kind of mandate. And

0:27:25.380 --> 0:27:27.899
<v Speaker 7>they overreach and try and do something like Medicare for all,

0:27:27.920 --> 0:27:30.780
<v Speaker 7>which we've talked about before. Then where does that leave Republicans?

0:27:30.859 --> 0:27:31.020
<v Speaker 5>Right.

0:27:31.040 --> 0:27:33.359
<v Speaker 7>Does that leave them as the party in opposition or

0:27:33.380 --> 0:27:35.280
<v Speaker 7>do they want to actually put forward some ideas? So

0:27:35.340 --> 0:27:37.740
<v Speaker 7>I think there's all of these things that are going

0:27:37.830 --> 0:27:40.629
<v Speaker 7>to be discussions going on in the background. And then

0:27:40.670 --> 0:27:43.310
<v Speaker 7>you set that against the last two years of Donald Trump.

0:27:43.850 --> 0:27:45.330
<v Speaker 7>And is he going to be a lame duck or

0:27:45.390 --> 0:27:48.330
<v Speaker 7>is he going to be really aggressive? in pushing forward

0:27:48.390 --> 0:27:50.610
<v Speaker 7>on executive action and the things that he cares about.

0:27:50.670 --> 0:27:52.690
<v Speaker 7>So it's going to be a super interesting next couple

0:27:52.710 --> 0:27:54.169
<v Speaker 7>of years as we think about the future of the

0:27:54.190 --> 0:27:54.830
<v Speaker 7>Republican Party.

0:27:55.150 --> 0:27:56.340
<v Speaker 4>Since we got you on the phone, I want to

0:27:56.410 --> 0:28:00.879
<v Speaker 4>ask you about California. You are maybe the world's leading

0:28:00.980 --> 0:28:05.230
<v Speaker 4>expert on California and then the way it's governed and

0:28:05.290 --> 0:28:07.189
<v Speaker 4>how hard it is for a Republican to win, as

0:28:07.230 --> 0:28:09.520
<v Speaker 4>you got more votes as a Republican a couple of

0:28:09.540 --> 0:28:12.420
<v Speaker 4>years back than any Republican has gotten in a very, very,

0:28:12.440 --> 0:28:15.880
<v Speaker 4>very long time. And I remember you saying after you lost,

0:28:15.940 --> 0:28:17.879
<v Speaker 4>even though you got the endorsement of all the major

0:28:17.960 --> 0:28:21.340
<v Speaker 4>newspapers that almost never endorsed a Republican and you still

0:28:21.380 --> 0:28:25.700
<v Speaker 4>didn't win. And you're talking about California being ungovernable. First

0:28:25.720 --> 0:28:28.190
<v Speaker 4>of all, what does that mean? Why is California ungovernable?

0:28:28.810 --> 0:28:35.810
<v Speaker 4>And why is it just embedded in our politics that

0:28:35.890 --> 0:28:36.950
<v Speaker 4>a Republican can't win?

0:28:39.800 --> 0:28:41.980
<v Speaker 2>Oh, my gosh. We could spend hours.

0:28:41.760 --> 0:28:43.580
<v Speaker 4>Talking about this. I know we could get you wound

0:28:43.600 --> 0:28:44.140
<v Speaker 4>up on this one.

0:28:45.860 --> 0:28:49.330
<v Speaker 7>I guess the first thing I'd say is that If

0:28:49.350 --> 0:28:51.010
<v Speaker 7>you look at the results from last night, I mean,

0:28:51.450 --> 0:28:56.260
<v Speaker 7>I think it's pretty obvious that the blue tsunami, whatever

0:28:56.280 --> 0:28:59.060
<v Speaker 7>they're calling it, certainly washed over California as well, because

0:28:59.100 --> 0:29:01.380
<v Speaker 7>I don't think any statewide contest is going to be

0:29:01.440 --> 0:29:02.880
<v Speaker 7>closer than 20 to 25 points.

0:29:02.940 --> 0:29:04.840
<v Speaker 2>Oh, my God. Just so from.

0:29:04.660 --> 0:29:07.220
<v Speaker 7>Context, when I ran in 2022, I lost by about

0:29:07.260 --> 0:29:15.190
<v Speaker 7>nine points. And that was the best performance we'd seen

0:29:15.210 --> 0:29:17.410
<v Speaker 7>from a Republican in a while and seems like it

0:29:17.470 --> 0:29:20.709
<v Speaker 7>will be for some time just because the gravity has

0:29:20.760 --> 0:29:23.840
<v Speaker 7>gotten that much stronger in California in the intervening years.

0:29:24.800 --> 0:29:28.440
<v Speaker 7>I think the problem is twofold, really. One is we

0:29:28.520 --> 0:29:33.030
<v Speaker 7>have a ruling party in Sacramento that's really not willing

0:29:33.200 --> 0:29:36.030
<v Speaker 7>to take on tough issues and really get to the

0:29:36.090 --> 0:29:39.130
<v Speaker 7>heart of why we're having these challenges with public safety

0:29:39.190 --> 0:29:42.280
<v Speaker 7>and with housing and homelessness and with our economy in

0:29:42.320 --> 0:29:45.340
<v Speaker 7>california you know and and javier becerra who won the

0:29:45.380 --> 0:29:48.860
<v Speaker 7>governorship last night you know i mean he's just i

0:29:48.960 --> 0:29:51.200
<v Speaker 7>i don't think you if you surveyed 100 people i

0:29:51.220 --> 0:29:52.840
<v Speaker 7>think 100 would not be able to tell you what

0:29:52.880 --> 0:29:55.220
<v Speaker 7>it is he's going to do as governor And he's

0:29:55.240 --> 0:29:58.440
<v Speaker 7>not particularly solutions-oriented, and this is what we've got. We've

0:29:58.480 --> 0:30:00.840
<v Speaker 7>got a ruling class that's kind of interested in managing

0:30:00.880 --> 0:30:02.680
<v Speaker 7>the decline. I think that's the first issue.

0:30:03.110 --> 0:30:06.470
<v Speaker 5>Well, and they've perfected the art of fixing democracy, but

0:30:06.510 --> 0:30:06.810
<v Speaker 5>go on.

0:30:08.510 --> 0:30:13.710
<v Speaker 7>Well, no, and then I think what they are– What

0:30:13.730 --> 0:30:17.510
<v Speaker 7>they are good at is preserving their leadership with all

0:30:17.530 --> 0:30:19.690
<v Speaker 7>of the institutions in our state that make it hard

0:30:19.710 --> 0:30:23.710
<v Speaker 7>for Republicans to win. And that's all of the public

0:30:23.750 --> 0:30:27.730
<v Speaker 7>sector unions that are completely aligned with Democrats. The fact

0:30:27.770 --> 0:30:29.630
<v Speaker 7>that they get to set the rules. So if you

0:30:29.650 --> 0:30:31.930
<v Speaker 7>think about this stat I brought up earlier, why are

0:30:31.950 --> 0:30:35.550
<v Speaker 7>there only four Republicans in the Congress from California? Well,

0:30:35.570 --> 0:30:38.970
<v Speaker 7>because remember, they redistricted. The Democrats made the decision to

0:30:39.040 --> 0:30:42.100
<v Speaker 7>redistrict the state. with the consent of the voters back

0:30:42.420 --> 0:30:45.479
<v Speaker 7>about a year ago. And that created the predicate for

0:30:45.560 --> 0:30:47.760
<v Speaker 7>us to only have four Republicans in the House. And

0:30:47.780 --> 0:30:50.120
<v Speaker 7>they can write the rules because that's what they do.

0:30:50.880 --> 0:30:52.700
<v Speaker 7>And then the last thing I'll say is that, you know,

0:30:53.220 --> 0:30:57.710
<v Speaker 7>I think President Trump's unpopularity in California has driven the

0:30:58.010 --> 0:31:01.350
<v Speaker 7>lack of popularity of the Republican Party as well. And

0:31:01.370 --> 0:31:04.030
<v Speaker 7>the party just has not been able to establish any

0:31:04.110 --> 0:31:06.650
<v Speaker 7>kind of foothold, any kind of infrastructure in the state

0:31:06.690 --> 0:31:08.790
<v Speaker 7>that would allow it to be competitive.

0:31:08.870 --> 0:31:11.969
<v Speaker 2>So it's all those things. I mean, it's a political problem.

0:31:12.010 --> 0:31:13.040
<v Speaker 2>It's a policy problem.

0:31:13.080 --> 0:31:15.920
<v Speaker 7>And it's just when people get in charge and nobody

0:31:15.960 --> 0:31:17.880
<v Speaker 7>holds them accountable, they just kind of keep doing the

0:31:17.920 --> 0:31:18.720
<v Speaker 7>same things over.

0:31:18.580 --> 0:31:19.120
<v Speaker 2>And over again.

0:31:20.120 --> 0:31:20.380
<v Speaker 5>Wow.

0:31:20.720 --> 0:31:20.880
<v Speaker 1>Wow.

0:31:21.580 --> 0:31:24.780
<v Speaker 5>Maybe it's time to invent the California party and run

0:31:24.840 --> 0:31:26.020
<v Speaker 5>as a C, not an R.

0:31:26.660 --> 0:31:28.460
<v Speaker 4>God bless you. But who are you people that run

0:31:28.520 --> 0:31:32.120
<v Speaker 4>as Republicans in California when you're going to lose by 20?

0:31:32.120 --> 0:31:32.620
<v Speaker 4>Good for you.

0:31:32.680 --> 0:31:33.060
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

0:31:33.200 --> 0:31:35.840
<v Speaker 7>I mean, this is it's it's it's a it's a challenge.

0:31:35.860 --> 0:31:37.980
<v Speaker 7>And then and then you have a tough time recruiting candidates.

0:31:38.280 --> 0:31:38.500
<v Speaker 4>Right.

0:31:38.620 --> 0:31:40.680
<v Speaker 2>I'm sure. Like no one. I got a job.

0:31:40.740 --> 0:31:41.640
<v Speaker 4>I got no one wants to go.

0:31:43.340 --> 0:31:44.780
<v Speaker 7>No, no one wants to go and get beat in.

0:31:44.800 --> 0:31:47.020
<v Speaker 7>I mean, this is why I, a couple of actually

0:31:47.040 --> 0:31:49.000
<v Speaker 7>last week, I wrote an article in the LA times.

0:31:49.700 --> 0:31:51.580
<v Speaker 7>I actually suggested, if you look at some of the

0:31:52.120 --> 0:31:54.420
<v Speaker 7>offices in California, like some of the ones that deal

0:31:54.440 --> 0:31:56.950
<v Speaker 7>with the money, right? Controller and treasurer. That's one of the,

0:31:57.000 --> 0:31:58.740
<v Speaker 7>that's the office I ran for. And the other of

0:31:58.780 --> 0:32:01.800
<v Speaker 7>what we call fiscal office in California. Why, why are

0:32:01.840 --> 0:32:05.460
<v Speaker 7>we electing those, um, in a partisan way, right? They,

0:32:05.520 --> 0:32:07.680
<v Speaker 7>they ought to, those office holders ought to be people

0:32:07.700 --> 0:32:09.790
<v Speaker 7>that don't have a party, right? They ought to just

0:32:09.830 --> 0:32:12.030
<v Speaker 7>go in. They should be fix-it people. They should be

0:32:12.050 --> 0:32:15.230
<v Speaker 7>people who just make things work right. And in California,

0:32:15.780 --> 0:32:17.600
<v Speaker 7>we need more of that. We need more people that

0:32:17.640 --> 0:32:19.820
<v Speaker 7>are just, you know, I don't really care what party

0:32:19.860 --> 0:32:21.780
<v Speaker 7>you are. Just go in and fix it. But it's

0:32:21.820 --> 0:32:25.140
<v Speaker 7>become so polarized in this state. And the Democrats have

0:32:25.180 --> 0:32:26.980
<v Speaker 7>such a stranglehold on it. We're just never going to

0:32:27.000 --> 0:32:29.220
<v Speaker 7>have a conversation until we do something to really shake

0:32:29.260 --> 0:32:31.900
<v Speaker 7>it up. And that's an idea that maybe we'll move to.

0:32:31.980 --> 0:32:33.540
<v Speaker 4>It was depressing having you on.

0:32:33.740 --> 0:32:34.080
<v Speaker 9>Sorry.

0:32:34.500 --> 0:32:34.860
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

0:32:34.980 --> 0:32:35.240
<v Speaker 7>Wow.

0:32:35.300 --> 0:32:37.760
<v Speaker 2>I'm sorry. Blame the messenger. Why don't you kill him?

0:32:38.440 --> 0:32:38.740
<v Speaker 3>Wow.

0:32:39.420 --> 0:32:43.510
<v Speaker 5>Lonhee Chen of the Hoover Institution, Stanford University. You're 100% right.

0:32:43.550 --> 0:32:45.350
<v Speaker 5>It's always great to talk, Lonhee. Thanks so much for

0:32:45.390 --> 0:32:45.690
<v Speaker 5>the time.

0:32:45.710 --> 0:32:47.350
<v Speaker 2>Thank you.

0:32:47.530 --> 0:32:51.310
<v Speaker 5>That is depressing, though. You know, he used fancier words,

0:32:51.390 --> 0:32:54.230
<v Speaker 5>but he agreed with me. The Democratic Party in California

0:32:54.330 --> 0:32:57.770
<v Speaker 5>has perfected the art of perverting democracy and holding power

0:32:58.470 --> 0:33:00.250
<v Speaker 5>because of the public employee unions.

0:33:00.290 --> 0:33:02.550
<v Speaker 2>And don't forget, like, the nurses unions.

0:33:03.010 --> 0:33:06.210
<v Speaker 5>Those are not public employee unions, but they are slavishly

0:33:06.270 --> 0:33:10.840
<v Speaker 5>devoted to back-scratching, back-and-forth money, back-and-forth with the Democratic Party.

0:33:11.060 --> 0:33:15.950
<v Speaker 5>The SEIU, which represents everybody from janitors to fast food

0:33:15.990 --> 0:33:18.590
<v Speaker 5>workers to God knows what else, they will never, ever,

0:33:18.930 --> 0:33:23.010
<v Speaker 5>ever allow their people to vote for Republicans. The fix

0:33:23.190 --> 0:33:26.950
<v Speaker 5>is in the taxpayers being built. The gravy train, not

0:33:27.010 --> 0:33:30.350
<v Speaker 5>the high-speed train, the gravy train rolls on.

0:33:30.590 --> 0:33:32.990
<v Speaker 4>The high-speed gravy train, now that is up and functioning.

0:33:33.580 --> 0:33:35.219
<v Speaker 5>You got to put a cap because the gravy will

0:33:35.300 --> 0:33:37.100
<v Speaker 5>slosh back and forth right out.

0:33:37.040 --> 0:33:38.920
<v Speaker 2>Of your gravy train car.

0:33:38.940 --> 0:33:42.460
<v Speaker 4>God, the average Republican loses by almost 20 points. That

0:33:42.520 --> 0:33:43.560
<v Speaker 4>is incredible.

0:33:43.580 --> 0:33:48.520
<v Speaker 5>Hey, sir, you're a prominent businessman and respected in your community.

0:33:48.760 --> 0:33:50.560
<v Speaker 5>Would you like to stand in front of this herd

0:33:50.600 --> 0:33:53.940
<v Speaker 5>of stampeding buffalo with a little sign that says stop?

0:33:54.400 --> 0:33:55.920
<v Speaker 4>Now it is going to be expensive and take a

0:33:55.960 --> 0:33:56.720
<v Speaker 4>lot of your time.

0:33:57.540 --> 0:33:57.880
<v Speaker 7>Sure.

0:33:58.020 --> 0:33:59.810
<v Speaker 2>And be discouraging and humiliating. Yeah.

0:34:01.900 --> 0:34:03.460
<v Speaker 4>All right, we got more on the way. Stay here.

0:34:04.850 --> 0:34:05.890
<v Speaker 1>Armstrong and Getty.

0:34:08.989 --> 0:34:12.860
<v Speaker 10>The New Mexico National Guard saved 78 goats from floodwaters

0:34:12.900 --> 0:34:18.299
<v Speaker 10>this week, and here's the thanks they got. The guard

0:34:18.320 --> 0:34:22.610
<v Speaker 10>members nicknamed them the Bleat Brigade. Disaster response always brings

0:34:22.620 --> 0:34:24.450
<v Speaker 10>the unexpected, said one guardsman.

0:34:24.830 --> 0:34:27.049
<v Speaker 2>You see? I believe. Well, go ahead. Sorry.

0:34:27.070 --> 0:34:29.009
<v Speaker 4>You see? I just thought we needed a break from

0:34:29.090 --> 0:34:32.750
<v Speaker 4>all the election analysis. There you got goats being rescued

0:34:33.130 --> 0:34:34.649
<v Speaker 4>by the Bleat Brigade. Huh?

0:34:36.469 --> 0:34:39.150
<v Speaker 5>I've probably never had an original thought other than this one.

0:34:40.370 --> 0:34:44.760
<v Speaker 5>Goats sound precisely like a human being trying to imitate

0:34:44.800 --> 0:34:45.100
<v Speaker 5>a goat.

0:34:45.989 --> 0:34:49.270
<v Speaker 2>They do. Shockingly so. They do. Yes.

0:34:51.130 --> 0:34:54.270
<v Speaker 4>So I know a number of people who don't follow politics.

0:34:54.310 --> 0:34:55.950
<v Speaker 4>I know I'm thinking of one particular woman I know.

0:34:57.120 --> 0:35:00.180
<v Speaker 4>Fantastic mom. One of the best moms I've ever known

0:35:00.200 --> 0:35:03.460
<v Speaker 4>in my life. My guess would be she was completely

0:35:03.520 --> 0:35:07.740
<v Speaker 4>unaware that it was even Election Day yesterday. Very active

0:35:07.800 --> 0:35:12.060
<v Speaker 4>in her kids' lives, in the school life. volunteers, all

0:35:12.100 --> 0:35:14.399
<v Speaker 4>kinds of time, you know, all the, all the good

0:35:14.440 --> 0:35:17.299
<v Speaker 4>stuff a grownup should do in their society. I don't

0:35:17.340 --> 0:35:19.280
<v Speaker 4>even think she probably even knew that it was election

0:35:19.300 --> 0:35:25.359
<v Speaker 4>day yesterday. Now I'm not advocating that just because, you know,

0:35:25.380 --> 0:35:29.560
<v Speaker 4>if you're, If you're governed by the people, if that's

0:35:29.600 --> 0:35:32.020
<v Speaker 4>our experiment, some people got to do the governing. And

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<v Speaker 4>if you don't do the governing, somebody else does it

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<v Speaker 4>for you and all that sort of stuff that is

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<v Speaker 4>fairly obvious. But just to the point of Tim Sandefur

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<v Speaker 4>tweeted out this quote from Rush Limbaugh. I would guess

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<v Speaker 4>Tim Sandefur is not a Rush Limbaugh fan, but this

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<v Speaker 4>quote is the way you should look at things. My

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<v Speaker 4>success does not depend on who wins elections. Don't live

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<v Speaker 4>your life or your happiness on who got over this

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<v Speaker 4>two-year period until next time. I know people who do

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<v Speaker 4>live their lives that way. Thinking of one person in particular.

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<v Speaker 4>Just so it was impossible for them to be happy

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<v Speaker 4>while Trump was president. What? You only get so many

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<v Speaker 4>years on Earth.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, that's a terrible way to live your life.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh, my God.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>Or the other direction. I knew people couldn't be happy

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<v Speaker 4>as long as Obama was president. No, my happiness, I

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<v Speaker 4>agree with Arsalanbaugh, my happiness does not depend on who

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<v Speaker 4>wins elections.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, I have nothing to add. That's brilliantly, simply true.

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