Speaker 1: The volume Ojo Shane Stikeen says Anthony Richardson Village visited
Speaker 1: doctor Neil Elatrosh in Los Angeles to get a second
Speaker 1: opinion on his shoulder. Dyken says nothing has changed and
Speaker 1: the plan is to just rest the shoulder for now.
Speaker 2: There's no timetable on his return.
Speaker 3: Damn.
Speaker 1: So you, oh, Joe, we start a race, we running,
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, you catch a cramp or you
Speaker 1: get tired, your stomach start to hurt, so you stop.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you see what happens. So Daniel Jones right now
Speaker 3: is the starting quarterback for now? Absolutely? Okay, Okay, Daniel
Speaker 3: Jones isn't answer either. Just f y.
Speaker 1: I don't depend on what's the question? Name quarter back
Speaker 1: that went to Duke he's the answer. Well you say
Speaker 1: he's not to ask that. I just need to know
Speaker 1: the question you ask you first.
Speaker 4: Listen, Daniel Jones is not the answer. I don't care
Speaker 4: what people say about Anthony Richardson him being heard. He
Speaker 4: was inconsistent last year.
Speaker 3: Whatever it may be.
Speaker 4: Dam Jones isn't answer either, And I'm then that's no
Speaker 4: disrespect to him.
Speaker 3: I'm just being honest. We saw we saw a large,
Speaker 3: simple side that what he could do in New York
Speaker 3: and the biggest market. Yes, I think it's market. What's
Speaker 3: some decent talent in the running.
Speaker 4: You know, I think from a supporting cast standpoint, it's
Speaker 4: a lot better.
Speaker 3: Than Indy Forum.
Speaker 2: Oh for sure.
Speaker 1: They got Jonathan Taylor in the backfield and over receivers,
Speaker 1: they got Pirs and and Pimplon Jr.
Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely, But yeah they got some talent over there.
Speaker 2: Now out of the offensive line. Defense isn't bad.
Speaker 4: Yeah, if you know it can't get it done here,
Speaker 4: then you are the problem.
Speaker 3: Damn man, And I was damn.
Speaker 4: Oh yo, turn around here for Anthony Richardson.
Speaker 1: Picked the wrong time to have this type of injury. Cause,
Speaker 1: like I said, maybe it'since they see Jordan something like that.
Speaker 1: He went to the Curland Joe Clint. They got uh
Speaker 1: neil Ela Troc. Remember I was telling you about him.
Speaker 2: Hold on, why are.
Speaker 3: We waiting to do it now and not doing it
Speaker 3: when the season ended? I don't know. Did he have certainty?
Speaker 1: Did Maybe maybe he's throwing because a lot of times,
Speaker 1: you know, they bring extra quarterbacks then o Joe, because
Speaker 1: they don't want the quarterback throwing so much so early,
Speaker 1: so so soon and sometimes they just get dead arms
Speaker 1: and you know, gotta you know, I don't know how
Speaker 1: much you through in the off season, you know, because
Speaker 1: as a picture, you know, you gotta throw.
Speaker 2: He might, he might.
Speaker 3: He might be overdoing it. Man, they're the possibility of
Speaker 3: that too.
Speaker 2: We don't know.
Speaker 3: We just two years ago.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, it's if he's having I think it's his
Speaker 1: AC joint, isn't it. He had Uh, he had surgery
Speaker 1: after his rook well, remember he missed, he only played.
Speaker 1: He only played like three or four games his rookie
Speaker 1: year because he got that shoulder and he had surgery
Speaker 1: on it.
Speaker 2: Seeing that he sword in that throwing shoulder that he
Speaker 2: had surgery on.
Speaker 3: Damn.
Speaker 2: Lions head coach.
Speaker 1: Dan Campbell wants to have a live lion on the
Speaker 1: team's sideline at Ford Field, but the NFL said hell no,
Speaker 1: despite on a Sheila Ford hamp approving it. Sheila said
Speaker 1: had no problem with it. But the league apparently proud
Speaker 1: upon those type of things. You know what, he'll be
Speaker 1: a perfect college coach because they definite let you have anything.
Speaker 1: They let you have a clientsdale, They'll let you have
Speaker 1: an elephant, a panther, LSU got LSU got what a
Speaker 1: falcon flyt ist? And like at at Albert campbellt told
Speaker 1: parton my parton my tape.
Speaker 2: Oh Joe, I mean you want to lie on the sideline?
Speaker 3: Yeah? Shit, I like that, So listen that all that does?
Speaker 3: It gives me another idea. Obviously I'm not playing, but
Speaker 3: I could.
Speaker 4: Can you imagine me playing for Dan Campbell, you know,
Speaker 4: back during those days and the lion on the sideline,
Speaker 4: and I got it. I get to come up with
Speaker 4: a celebration after scoring using the lion, using our mascot
Speaker 4: man man, Yeah, I could see.
Speaker 3: Me jumping in the cage.
Speaker 2: I guess I can see that line.
Speaker 1: Tear your ass up in that cage. NFL said the
Speaker 1: last thing in the NFL. Won't that infant lion mess
Speaker 1: right to break up out that cage?
Speaker 3: Yojo? I don't know.
Speaker 4: Listen, don't nobody go on no part of that when
Speaker 4: you got on paths.
Speaker 2: Or not, Because here's the thing. People don't realize.
Speaker 1: Like you see a line on television and you're like, oh, hey,
Speaker 1: that but when you see.
Speaker 2: That close.
Speaker 3: All right, four hundred pounds are all muscle? Hey, I
Speaker 3: want you to think about it for the people in
Speaker 3: the chat that have cats.
Speaker 4: Right, just think about this, Think about the people that
Speaker 4: have cats, and how quick and agile your regular home
Speaker 4: the Mexican cat is.
Speaker 1: Now you take a full how much they weigh four
Speaker 1: hundred average.
Speaker 4: Pound lion that has that same type of agility and quickness.
Speaker 4: Just for some reason, they see twenty three hours a
Speaker 4: day and can still jump out.
Speaker 3: Man, it's dog. They are medicine is unbelievable. Unbelievable. And
Speaker 3: they're so damn lazy.
Speaker 1: Hey, they sleep half the day. They they hunt at night.
Speaker 1: You get there, get their little hunt on, get their.
Speaker 3: A and just chill. Yeah, what a life, bro.
Speaker 1: Nah, Like I said, in college, you know, college didn't
Speaker 1: let anything go. They have goats, and they have rams,
Speaker 1: and they have you know, even Colorado and they're gonna
Speaker 1: have Ralphrey ruther Field. Uh uh uh who is that?
Speaker 1: Oklahoma got Boomer Schooner Boomer sooner and then the Little
Speaker 1: Man and Horsey. Yeah, NFL said, nah were good.
Speaker 3: I like it though that that would be dope.
Speaker 4: That would be dope if if they could implement mascots
Speaker 4: that were that that reference the teams, but had the
Speaker 4: real mascot outside of.
Speaker 1: Well we got on, we got we got mascot thund
Speaker 1: to run on the field every time this court touchdown.
Speaker 3: The horse.
Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, See, every team, I'm saying, every team. The
Speaker 4: Bengals should have an actual Bengal Tiger. I mean, I
Speaker 4: think it would be dope, it'd be fun.
Speaker 3: But you got your dad by I'm just being honest.
Speaker 1: What the Cowboys? They do have a cowboy? I mean,
Speaker 1: so I'm trying to figure out the Giants. How they
Speaker 1: gonna get a mascot. How thought they gonna be gonna
Speaker 1: be Are you gonna be uh Goliath?
Speaker 3: The Giants? What is the Giants mascott? That's it? Yeah, okay,
Speaker 3: I like it. I like it.
Speaker 2: I've just tried to figure out.
Speaker 3: So the Seahawks having a seahawk.
Speaker 4: Yeah, the Colts obviously having a horse. I'd assume the Chiefs,
Speaker 4: that's easy.
Speaker 1: Uh.
Speaker 3: Who else?
Speaker 4: We got Broncos obviously you have the horse, we got Thunder. Okay, Well,
Speaker 4: Panthers having a panther, Oh, that would be dope. A
Speaker 4: black panther coming, Oh that that'll be live.
Speaker 3: I'm trying to think what a Raven's It's easy to
Speaker 3: get a guy, damn raven. Yeah, Buffalo Bills. Could you
Speaker 3: imagin if they had a big bison? Oh you wanted
Speaker 3: to run out and feel like Ralphie? Huh yeah yeah,
Speaker 3: get you a real bison man. Yeah. NFL neither. They
Speaker 3: might as well. Just you know, try something the NFL.
Speaker 3: They do not want to pay no money. They make
Speaker 3: all the money though. I know that's how you keep it.
Speaker 1: You keep keep it and you can can you make
Speaker 1: it and you don't, you don't spend it away with lasses. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Marvin Harrison Jr.
Speaker 2: Been hitting the jail Ojo.
Speaker 1: Even Kyler Murray couldn't believe how different Marvin Harrison Jr.
Speaker 3: Looked.
Speaker 1: When asked about this transformation, Kyler said, hell, I.
Speaker 3: Thought it was Ai. Yeah, he joked up. He more
Speaker 3: than you, Ojo? He got you. Nah, we're buy the
Speaker 3: same time.
Speaker 2: Oh Joe, he got you.
Speaker 3: Ojo. I'm bigger. I'm bigger than Junior. I'm bigger than Jr.
Speaker 3: Nah huh, trust me, man, trust me what y'all think.
Speaker 2: Y'all think, Oh Yo, bigger than m j all they.
Speaker 3: Got to do. Look at me, man, look at this man.
Speaker 4: Look at him, look at me, Look at this this
Speaker 4: I think this is McDonald's man, talking about man.
Speaker 1: Yeah, see, he got real good chicken breasts. You know
Speaker 1: he probably had some broccoli, cauliflower, maybe carriage caesar salad,
Speaker 1: kale salad, a rougle or something like that.
Speaker 3: Mean what you're talking about? Man? What is real boy
Speaker 3: to talk about?
Speaker 4: Hey, my a, I'm a full sea cup like I can't.
Speaker 4: I gotta put I gotta put my tea. I gotta
Speaker 4: get an egg.
Speaker 3: A one size smaller T shirt just to keep him
Speaker 3: a chest down.
Speaker 2: You're still a small No? What this is a two
Speaker 2: X you know it ain't.
Speaker 3: This is a two X from H and M.
Speaker 2: I can show you, show me.
Speaker 3: H and M. See God dang Yo'll send me some
Speaker 3: uh some shorts that talk about either two eggs? What's that?
Speaker 2: God?
Speaker 3: Damn things?
Speaker 2: Little hunh that's who I'm saying for two eggs.
Speaker 3: Hey, send me them bad you can on that reform them? Hey,
Speaker 3: what kind of short thing is? They're supposed to be
Speaker 3: yoga shorts? Oh they're supposed to be small.
Speaker 2: Huh No, they di not for me?
Speaker 4: Nah, you know for you know, hey, yoga, you support
Speaker 4: I ain't never did yoga, but I'm supposed to supposed
Speaker 4: to be free, you know, really How am I.
Speaker 2: Free with those little love tiny ass things?
Speaker 1: And you don't want nothing baggy though, Hey, I gotta
Speaker 1: have about to have to have a jounk strap old bad.
Speaker 2: Don't you supposed to have old baggy stuff in yoga?
Speaker 4: Oh?
Speaker 3: No, you want you want to be free?
Speaker 1: Uh?
Speaker 3: Nothing that's free. Baggy's free, not constricted. Okay, I got
Speaker 3: you and y'all, I don't know. I think you might
Speaker 3: have missed these Joe cit Joe sent me something too, man, So.
Speaker 2: We'll we'll see. We'll see it tomorrow, Joe, oh Joe.
Speaker 1: According to Ian Rappaport, James Cook is president at Mandatory
Speaker 1: Minicamp every since a new deal. James Cook had a
Speaker 1: simple response to why I like my money.
Speaker 2: That's why I'm here.
Speaker 1: Cook As he plays to fully participate in training camp, then.
Speaker 3: They gonna take care of him.
Speaker 4: They're gonna take and listen at the running back position,
Speaker 4: you really can't play that game. But then boy, uh no,
Speaker 4: I'm just being honest, but they do not play that
Speaker 4: even though I we view you thus on the outside
Speaker 4: looking and we view you as a tier one running
Speaker 4: back along with Saquon and then McCaffrey and in the
Speaker 4: Boys but you really can't play that. They already don't
Speaker 4: value the position as it is as well as you
Speaker 4: did for the Bills since you've been there. But they
Speaker 4: will replace your ass quick and feeling they can put
Speaker 4: they can find someone else, they can do the same
Speaker 4: stuff you can do.
Speaker 3: Nah, I don't do that. Don't play that game. I'm glad.
Speaker 3: I'm glad is that mini caamp. I'm glad that that
Speaker 3: man now.
Speaker 1: Fab three day miss minicamp over one hundred and five
Speaker 1: thousand fines. And you know, but back back when you
Speaker 1: and I played, O Joe, if you got fined signed
Speaker 1: a new contract, the team could forgive that fine.
Speaker 2: Now they can't forgive a fine.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you can't forgive it. Yeah, you don't. Don't play
Speaker 3: with that money. He gonna be out right.
Speaker 4: They gonna take care of them, though they're gonna take
Speaker 4: Cam then you gonna gonna have to wait for it,
Speaker 4: but they gonna take.
Speaker 3: Care of me, oh Joe.
Speaker 1: Shamar Stewart is no longer at the Mandatory Minicamp amid
Speaker 1: ongoing hold out with the Bengals over the language they
Speaker 1: want to put into its rookie contract. Per Adam Schefter
Speaker 1: Stuart left mandatory minicamp due to contract dispute. Stuart, the
Speaker 1: number seventeenth overall draft pick, is one of four remaining
Speaker 1: unsigned first round selections from the twenty twenty five draft.
Speaker 1: His situation appears to be the most contentious from that group.
Speaker 1: Pro Football Talks Mike Florrio reported on May twenty fourth
Speaker 1: that they issue between the Stewart and the Bengals involve
Speaker 1: a phrase in which the contract would allow a default
Speaker 1: in the current year to trigger a default in all
Speaker 1: remaining years.
Speaker 3: Yeah, hey, hey, uncle is got just think.
Speaker 1: About what Joe, just think you get a contract. Let's
Speaker 1: just say, for the sake of argument, I get a contract.
Speaker 1: I got a five year d I got a four
Speaker 1: year deal to fifty option. They can pick it up.
Speaker 1: So let's just say, at my rookie year, I do something. Yeah,
Speaker 1: contract gt you mother, I get suspended NFL whatever.
Speaker 2: The NFL suspended me.
Speaker 1: Not only can they take the money back that first year,
Speaker 1: but your two year, three year, four they get that
Speaker 1: guaranteed money too. Oh hell no, absolutely absolutely. He listen
Speaker 1: as a player and chat, y'all stay with me real quick.
Speaker 1: I'm not sure again, I asked.
Speaker 4: Us when we talked about it the other night, unk
Speaker 4: I asked, when it comes to Stewart, what does his
Speaker 4: background look like?
Speaker 3: You know, what has he done in the past. What
Speaker 3: did the Bengals find out?
Speaker 4: Like, we're gonna take a chance on you, on his
Speaker 4: young kid, because he's a tremendous talent, but there must
Speaker 4: have been some red flags that we don't know about.
Speaker 4: It has to be, because there's no reason that the
Speaker 4: Bengals are trying to set a precedent all of a
Speaker 4: sudden out the blue with this individual as good as
Speaker 4: he was in college, wanted you to and you wanted
Speaker 4: the drafted this high. I'm not sure what it is
Speaker 4: and if it's something that other teams now, if it's
Speaker 4: something that other teams did, Okay, I understand, I understand that.
Speaker 4: But the fact back of the matter is with that
Speaker 4: fine language, don't allow it to default money from years
Speaker 4: down down the road.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Allowed to be a year to year thing like.
Speaker 4: If you mess up this year as your rookie, well
Speaker 4: all that guaranteed money your rookie year. Boom, young boy,
Speaker 4: you're not touching that, but all the money to come
Speaker 4: that's guaranteed moving forward on later years. That's a no note.
Speaker 4: As much as I love my Bengals, I mean, I
Speaker 4: just don't see and don't I don't understand what the
Speaker 4: issue is or why they're doing it.
Speaker 1: Well, the NFL should institute to find if a team
Speaker 1: gets fired for doing something, all the money, the money
Speaker 1: that you would get in something to quit years would
Speaker 1: go away. So that four hundred and twenty five million
Speaker 1: dollars that you were getting twenty twenty six if you
Speaker 1: did if you had something that go wrong in twenty five,
Speaker 1: you don't get twenty six, twenty seven or twenty eight money.
Speaker 3: I gotta that wouldn't go for that, right exactly.
Speaker 2: But why do you expect players?
Speaker 1: Why do you think because you're in an advantageous situation
Speaker 1: that you want to say, well, look take her to
Speaker 1: leave it. Hey, take your hand back to the draft,
Speaker 1: young man, you're talking. I was just get ready to
Speaker 1: ask you down.
Speaker 4: I was just absolutely Now, can you opt out and
Speaker 4: go back into the draft again and be drafted by
Speaker 4: something else?
Speaker 1: That'd be something that that's something that the Players Association
Speaker 1: would probably get the lawyers involved with the NFL, because look,
Speaker 1: you go back and look normally what happens, Oh Joe.
Speaker 1: Quarterbacks are different but normally you look at what the
Speaker 1: what did the player get that was drafted in the
Speaker 1: same slot in twenty twenty four, and normally he gets
Speaker 1: a ten percent raise. So let's just say for the
Speaker 1: sake of argument, oh Joe, he got twenty million.
Speaker 2: Yes, ten percent, that's twenty two million.
Speaker 3: Okay.
Speaker 1: Now you work on your work on incentives and things
Speaker 1: like that. How much of the money is guaranteed, because
Speaker 1: now you look at the top five, top six guys,
Speaker 1: their entire contracts are guaranteed. Yes, sir, the entire contracts
Speaker 1: is guaranteed. You get twenty five thirty million dollars signing
Speaker 1: bonus at the time, and then you know the rest
Speaker 1: of it. So if it's a forty three million dollars
Speaker 1: dollar contract, you get a thirty million guaranteed. So you
Speaker 1: know you over the next four years three four years,
Speaker 1: you gonna get thirteen million. But you got your money.
Speaker 1: And so they pro rated over the length of the contract,
Speaker 1: the signing bonus. They spread it out, the Bengals doing
Speaker 1: this and I, oh Joe, I get it. This is
Speaker 1: a mom and pop shop. Their dad Paul Brown effort
Speaker 1: to the son Mike Brown. But oh Joe, everybody got
Speaker 1: three hundred to three hundred and twenty five million dollars.
Speaker 1: That's before you sold anything any tickets, that's any concession,
Speaker 1: any parking pass, local TV, local radio, local sponsorship. So
Speaker 1: you go the NFL cutting checks for between three hundred
Speaker 1: and three hundred and fifty million dollars before you do
Speaker 1: anything locally, Yes, sir, And you gonna try the hard
Speaker 1: time me telling about you're gonna take some money back
Speaker 1: if I do something in year one and you gonna
Speaker 1: take money from your two, three, four, then y'all gonna
Speaker 1: get the bleep out of here.
Speaker 3: Yeah it listen. It's unforst it's unfortunately, it's frustrating.
Speaker 4: It's frustrating for me obviously being being a huge, huge
Speaker 4: Bengo advocate, noise riding for my team, the ups, the downs,
Speaker 4: and and us already having issues on the defensive end
Speaker 4: and knowing that's what we need to focus all our
Speaker 4: attention on. And having a player that you drafted so
Speaker 4: high and and and and and having these issues and
Speaker 4: having them not be a part of you know, mandatory
Speaker 4: mini camp and him actually leaving and there's an opportunity
Speaker 4: and maybe a chance that he can opt out and
Speaker 4: go back into It's just it's a distraction.
Speaker 3: Is he interesting to see?
Speaker 2: O Joe? How have they done this with other contracts?
Speaker 3: Well, listen, I told you. I told you it was
Speaker 3: a hold up. You know.
Speaker 4: I mean a little little little birdie told me a
Speaker 4: birdie close enough that they had some wording and verbiage
Speaker 4: and and Tiggins contract that they held it up just
Speaker 4: a tad bit.
Speaker 3: Yeah, oh hell no, not no.
Speaker 2: Not us.
Speaker 3: So this was this was lingering a little bit.
Speaker 4: But because they are who they are, they were able
Speaker 4: to get that you know what about it there? So
Speaker 4: now we talking about a rookie who is yet to
Speaker 4: prove himself. You know, we got too that already been proven.
Speaker 4: So man, we're not signing nothing until that's the pout
Speaker 4: of there. So now in this case, they ride with it.
Speaker 1: They're trying to draw land in the sand. And so
Speaker 1: what that means if they start scup, because here is
Speaker 1: the thing, I'm not gonna let you start the president
Speaker 1: with me, because what you do if you put it now?
Speaker 1: So in twenty twenty five they put this in this contract.
Speaker 1: Guess what all the rookies that signed with the Bengals
Speaker 1: moving forward is gonna have in their contract that language.
Speaker 1: You're not gonna start that precedent with me, and it's
Speaker 1: not happening.
Speaker 3: It's unfortunate, man, it's very frustrating, very frustrating.
Speaker 1: Very Oh, y'all don't know if you noticed this today
Speaker 1: the new patches for the LA Chargers practice jerseys.
Speaker 2: Jerseys. H we miss something.
Speaker 3: Oh.
Speaker 1: If a rookie do not sign their contract after being drafted,
Speaker 1: they can re enter the draft the following year. They
Speaker 1: can also choose to enter free agency and potentially sign
Speaker 1: with another team if the draft teams right them aren't traded.
Speaker 1: A player who doesn't sign can either choose to sit
Speaker 1: out a year or re enter the draft later.
Speaker 2: No, he got leverage.
Speaker 3: What would you do?
Speaker 2: It could become a free agent?
Speaker 3: What would you do?
Speaker 2: I ain't said it not. I need money, I gotta player.
Speaker 2: I can't go back to college.
Speaker 1: I ain't got no eligibility because if I could, I
Speaker 1: go back to college to get a nil deal. But
Speaker 1: I'm going I'm gonna be a free agent because I'm
Speaker 1: sure Cincinnati was not the only team that had him
Speaker 1: high on their draft board. Now, is it something like
Speaker 1: is it something like a what do they call it?
Speaker 1: I think they used to do where you should draft
Speaker 1: the guy in the summer. What did they call that draft,
Speaker 1: supplemental draft. I don't think they have the supplemental draft anymore.
Speaker 1: But if you took somebody Bobby Humphrey got drafted into
Speaker 1: the supplemental draft in nineteen eighty nine, they took Steve
Speaker 1: Atwater first, but they had a supplemental draft Bobby Humphrey
Speaker 1: with number one in the supplemental draft, which means the
Speaker 1: following year the Broncos didn't have a first round draft pick.
Speaker 1: So that's how the supplemental draft worked. If you took somebody,
Speaker 1: whatever round you took him in that following year, you
Speaker 1: lost that route of.
Speaker 3: A draft pick.
Speaker 1: So with Schamark, with Moore, I'm sure others had him
Speaker 1: as a top as they first had a first round
Speaker 1: grade on it.
Speaker 2: Okay, hey, what y'all got for your boy?
Speaker 1: I'm not saying I'm not sitting out on ya because,
Speaker 1: like I said, I want money.
Speaker 3: I need that.
Speaker 4: I need that and forget the I mean the money
Speaker 4: part is obviously, but my childhood dream has finally come true. Yes,
Speaker 4: I would work all the obstacles, I overcame everything. I
Speaker 4: finally get drafted boom, Mama, I made it.
Speaker 2: Thank you.
Speaker 3: Now I get here.
Speaker 4: That's another issue. That's another problem, something that I can't avoid.
Speaker 4: It's the business side of then it's the ugly side
Speaker 4: of things.
Speaker 3: I hated. I know young boy wanted to get out
Speaker 3: there and play yess.
Speaker 4: I understand if he sits out, I understand if he
Speaker 4: if he opts out to go back into the draft,
Speaker 4: I get it. I understand that he's frustrated. I'm sure
Speaker 4: his parents are frustrated. The agent probably frustrated and saw
Speaker 4: the fans. So listen, Joe's focus piece, Joe's vocus piece.
Speaker 3: But one thing about it. If you know the Bengals,
Speaker 3: if you know management, if you don't ownership, you're not
Speaker 3: finna bully them.
Speaker 2: You're not.
Speaker 4: You're not for to make them do nothing they don't
Speaker 4: want to do. You're not gonna set that precedent as
Speaker 4: if you Joe so Oh.
Speaker 2: I know.
Speaker 1: But that's kind of why the Bengals have been in
Speaker 1: that situation. They wouldn't pay Boomer, they wouldn't pay a
Speaker 1: lot of their good players, and their good players left.
Speaker 1: That's kind of why they've been in the situation. Now
Speaker 1: you got an ideal situation. The last thing you want,
Speaker 1: oh Joe, going into a season where you have so
Speaker 1: much hope and promise is distraction. Joe told you the
Speaker 1: Trey Henderson is a distraction because you're not asking how
Speaker 1: we're getting better, You're asking what should they do? I
Speaker 1: gotta keep asking this. Now I got to ask answer
Speaker 1: another thing. Mentioning about my first round draft pick and
Speaker 1: them not getting paid and them trying to set a
Speaker 1: president that no other team is setting.
Speaker 3: Yeah, distraction. But the Bengals don't see.
Speaker 1: But here that's the thing, though, o Joe, Because see,
Speaker 1: there's really no benefit other than your your ownership, warning pride.
Speaker 2: That's the only benefit of winning.
Speaker 1: Because guess what, Ojoe, whether you get whether you were
Speaker 1: in the Philadelphia, the Philadelphia Eagles got the same amount
Speaker 1: of money. Who was the worst, who picked first? Oh, Tennessee,
Speaker 1: they got the same revenue. Everybody got a check for
Speaker 1: three fifty. So tell me the incentive. See, we normally
Speaker 1: have an incentive because you prize money, O Joe. You win,
Speaker 1: you get three million, you get second, you get two million,
Speaker 1: so forth and so on. But just imagine would that
Speaker 1: be any incentive to win other than your pride? If Okay,
Speaker 1: first prize get five million, Second prize get five million,
Speaker 1: Third Pride get five million.
Speaker 3: What incentive is.
Speaker 2: That, Ojoe?
Speaker 1: So the Bengals really don't have an incentive to do
Speaker 1: anything because guess what, the NFL is gonna cut them
Speaker 1: a check for three hundred and fifty million, just like
Speaker 1: they're gonna cut the Super Bowl champion or the last
Speaker 1: place team. And that's before they sell anything or they
Speaker 1: have any event in the stadium. And so that's that's
Speaker 1: that's that's why I mean it takes a special type.
Speaker 2: I mean some ownership.
Speaker 1: Clearly, Harry Roseman wants to win, even though the forty
Speaker 1: nine ers haven't won. Hell, they go damn near all
Speaker 1: in every year. Stan Kronkett, the owner of the Rams,
Speaker 1: he wants to win. He damn near shoved chips in
Speaker 1: the middle of table all year. If you notice, it's
Speaker 1: only the Bengals that do things like this the high
Speaker 1: goal and try to penny pinch bro You getting a
Speaker 1: check for three point fifty three hundred and fifty billion, know, Joe, damn.
Speaker 3: Hey, listen, well, it's frustrating.
Speaker 1: Why it's very frustrated because, like you said, the last
Speaker 1: thing that you want to have happened on Joe's to
Speaker 1: have it? Why are we still talking about a rookie
Speaker 1: a butt not sign? And here we are, damn damning
Speaker 1: in July. We're gonna we're going, Hey, we're going to
Speaker 1: training camp in the month.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, We're gonna training camp in the munt.
Speaker 1: And you and I and I got to deal with
Speaker 1: this bull jive. Oh, your new patches for the l
Speaker 1: A Chargers practice Jersey show both personal and team achievement
Speaker 1: on East Jersey. This is the first form of professional
Speaker 1: This is the first form of professional football.
Speaker 3: Team. Oh, how you like this?
Speaker 1: So?
Speaker 2: Okay, got captain? I can't read this?
Speaker 3: Is that water? Is that water? And water bottles?
Speaker 2: Okay? Yeah, so he got like you got it captain.
Speaker 2: So you got the captains.
Speaker 1: So you got a captain, and then you got a
Speaker 1: start for one year, two year, three on, and you
Speaker 1: got Pro Bowl, you got All Pro. If you you
Speaker 1: got the franchise record most passing yards of the season, okay,
Speaker 1: Oh Joe, you had the record for the most receiving yard,
Speaker 1: you would have a patch, now, I mean that would
Speaker 1: be you know what, It's kind of like, I guess
Speaker 1: of like Nascar. You got you no dash goard, got
Speaker 1: a native suit.
Speaker 3: I mean this this is shirt strict for practice, right yeah?
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I like it. Now you could put
Speaker 2: a patch. You could put your patch on that if
Speaker 2: you have a sponsor. But they NFL let you put
Speaker 2: all those patches.
Speaker 3: No, not, not without them monetizing and making some money
Speaker 3: off of it. Yes, not that ain't happening. But listen not.
Speaker 3: I think it's dopest.
Speaker 4: I like it.
Speaker 1: I do.
Speaker 3: It's no different in college, you know, Ohio State buck guys.
Speaker 3: I think f s U. You know, they get the
Speaker 3: they get the Tomahawks, and I think.
Speaker 1: Yeah you remember, yeah, you he the decal day, you
Speaker 1: get a you got a big hit score touchdown.
Speaker 2: Hey you know, hey, YoY I need to bring my
Speaker 2: help because I had a day.
Speaker 3: Yeah yours filled up?
Speaker 2: Oh yeah yet filled up? Yeah.
Speaker 3: We have scored the cross Bowls right right, right right,
Speaker 3: and we have called the Crawl Bowls. Don't yoke, okay, okay,
Speaker 3: I mean I think it's dope. It's cool and cool.
Speaker 4: I mean it's it's it's I don't think you really
Speaker 4: need centivized NFL players and reminding them, you know, their
Speaker 4: accolades and what they've done what they've done today, but
Speaker 4: if they feel having it on the jersey and patches,
Speaker 4: it's some type of motivating, motivating tactic.
Speaker 3: I guess it's cool.
Speaker 1: Think about what what you would do with coach said, hey,
Speaker 1: we win this game, we ain't got to come in
Speaker 1: till Wednesday, but.
Speaker 3: I don't care if that let me get money to
Speaker 3: money and money and Tuesday off.
Speaker 2: Man stop.
Speaker 1: The joke was going, hey, hey man, especially if you
Speaker 1: home man God trying to catch them fight out Sunday
Speaker 1: night to.
Speaker 2: Go somewhere out of the right.
Speaker 1: Yeah, oh hey, all right, hey, have a good practice.
Speaker 1: We off tomorrow. I'm like, really, do really, y'all gonna
Speaker 1: do this? But put so y'all so in other words,
Speaker 1: y'all been bullgiving the other practice. But it's it's it's
Speaker 1: a little thing like that. Hey, hey, we're gonna have
Speaker 1: a way. We'll have a cookout off. Because we always
Speaker 1: did faith office against the defense. There was always competition,
Speaker 1: whether we bowl, we we you know, we got divided.
Speaker 3: Up teams and shot and it was always off.
Speaker 1: We always compete against each other, right right right, And
Speaker 1: so I get it, but I liked I do like
Speaker 1: that old Joe.
Speaker 2: I like that. I like it.
Speaker 3: It's dope, He's dope, He's dope. Something new. Yeah, it's
Speaker 3: kind of like the All Star.
Speaker 1: You know, All Star in basketball, they started putting your
Speaker 1: accomplishment full time League, MVP, Finals, MVP.
Speaker 2: How many All Star teams you made?
Speaker 3: How many all the NBA teams you made? So I
Speaker 3: like it. Uh, you think other team's gonna adopt this
Speaker 3: on Joe? I think they will. I mean, I think
Speaker 3: they will. It all depends you think about it.
Speaker 4: When you look at the landscape of the NFL, you
Speaker 4: know there's only maybe three or four, three or four
Speaker 4: players that's gonna have patches on their stuff.
Speaker 1: Man, because they did it with the Walla to Payton.
Speaker 1: You remember all yours? You want the Walter Payton Award.
Speaker 1: They put that, they put that.
Speaker 4: Da Yes, I do, I do remember that. I do
Speaker 4: remember that absolutely. But I think I think, I think
Speaker 4: other teams may adopt it. You know, some some team
Speaker 4: might not really care for it or or or want
Speaker 4: to go to that extent of adding patches of accolades
Speaker 4: and what people have done.
Speaker 2: They do that, hold on, they do that at the
Speaker 2: super Bowl.
Speaker 1: Now you know how the guys come out there in
Speaker 1: the tracksuit's on a Tuesday and for the thing that
Speaker 1: you see the m vps and stud Super Bowl.
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, so I like I like this, I like this.
Speaker 2: I can get behind it.
Speaker 3: It might be something new, might be something oh Joe.
Speaker 1: Left tackle Trent william says his goal is to play
Speaker 1: into his forties. He turns thirty seven in July. It's
Speaker 1: one of them things that were I'm going to do
Speaker 1: everything possible to play as long as I can and
Speaker 1: to put a good product on the foot on foot
Speaker 1: of football out there, and then when it's going my way,
Speaker 1: then I'll know. But I could play until I'm forty one,
Speaker 1: who knows. But that's a goal of mine. I'm definitely
Speaker 1: not going to retire with some left in the tank.
Speaker 1: So in other words, he said, hey, when the wheels
Speaker 1: fall off off and Carl rolls Oude of the Sister
Speaker 1: to drag my ass off the field, But until then,
Speaker 1: I'm playing.
Speaker 4: That's it. And one thing about it, someone like Trent,
Speaker 4: someone of Trent Williams caliber and as good as he is,
Speaker 4: can play well into he's forty as.
Speaker 3: Well, can stay healthy. Yep, we stay healthy. That that's
Speaker 3: that's all. It goes that.
Speaker 4: That's all it comes down to. And he asked, Obviously,
Speaker 4: the older you get, the more technically sound, you gotta be.
Speaker 4: The old, the more technically sound, you gotta be.
Speaker 3: Some young bulls.
Speaker 4: You know them, they're coming, they're screaming off that edge. Well,
Speaker 4: they y'all coming as great as he is. They got
Speaker 4: to make sure that kicks.
Speaker 3: Still right now, you better getting better angle down. So
Speaker 3: if anybody you're thinking the thing is now ojo.
Speaker 1: Guys do a better job of taking care of themselves,
Speaker 1: regardless of position, and even though they might not have
Speaker 1: the most aesthetic bodies, guys take better care of themselves, right,
Speaker 1: Guys take better care of them So they do. They
Speaker 1: just do.
Speaker 2: Because I got into the league, guys were still smoking cigarettes.
Speaker 1: I ain't gonna call them name. Well, guy was still
Speaker 1: smoking cigarettes. Hey we get a break. God going to
Speaker 1: the car. They standing outside the car, they're smoking. I
Speaker 1: gotta tell you the funny thing I see. I saw
Speaker 1: Greg Towns and that the Raiders. I mean, we're walking
Speaker 1: in the first game of the season, were playing on
Speaker 1: the road at the old Coliseum. Man, I get all
Speaker 1: walking out and walk into the locker room. By the
Speaker 1: time I get there. He's sitting outside on his helmet smoking.
Speaker 1: I do believe it on Joe, did.
Speaker 2: I know guys?
Speaker 1: Yeah, we had very prominent guys on our on our team,
Speaker 1: they smoke, but not on Sunday.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's the game.
Speaker 1: You know that classic picture of Lynn Dawson. Yeah, that's
Speaker 1: that's exactly how Town was sitting on his helmet a cigarette.
Speaker 1: But you remember that picture there that I think that
Speaker 1: picture been black and white. Yeah, I saw it was
Speaker 1: our old color eyes.
Speaker 3: Hey that's funny man, Yes, they too.
Speaker 2: It was wild back there, like some of the stuff.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I didn't heard the story. Boy, you ain't got
Speaker 3: to tell me. Listen, listen. I have said that twin
Speaker 3: pieces for LT and I didn't got them. Got some
Speaker 3: good stories. I don't got some. I mean, I don't
Speaker 3: mean to be disrespectful. Right, But when you.
Speaker 4: Played football, when you used to fly airlines, do messic?
Speaker 4: Was that during the time they could smoke cigarettes on
Speaker 4: the plane. Yes, yeah, yeah, that's crazy.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Smoking restaurants, you had a smoking section of a non
Speaker 1: smoking section, like would you like to see the smoking
Speaker 1: or nine And a lot of people like, well what's
Speaker 1: first available?
Speaker 2: But but if you if you at a restaurant. What
Speaker 2: it's about throwing You might be back to back with
Speaker 2: a smoking.
Speaker 3: Section, do damn you know a history? Or is your
Speaker 3: pizza self? Right?
Speaker 2: No, I don't think that was coming back on your
Speaker 2: Hell no, not smoking and door. Nah.
Speaker 1: Now you go to the casino, Oh yeah, you know anything?
Speaker 1: They smoking cigare cigarettes, weed all of the club. That's
Speaker 1: what That's what really stopped me from going to the club.
Speaker 2: Bout yo. Why all that smoked man, you gotta you
Speaker 2: gotta hang your shirt up in the shower with stuff.
Speaker 3: Okay, I understand what you're saying.
Speaker 2: I didn't.
Speaker 3: I didn't know that would the tur you from going
Speaker 3: to the club.
Speaker 2: Now, yeah, I don't like all that the turb be
Speaker 2: from going to the club. I don't like.
Speaker 1: Oh I can't stay. I ain't no, I ain't no late.
Speaker 1: I'm a I'm an early Roger, so I need to
Speaker 1: be in.
Speaker 4: Don't forget it now, your boy, here's an early Risers too. Now,
Speaker 4: I understand understand what you got.
Speaker 3: I'm saying.
Speaker 4: I take a nap during the day if I know
Speaker 4: I'm gonna want to do something. Yeah, when I went
Speaker 4: to Area twenty.
Speaker 3: Nine, Yeah, he had to do I had to do
Speaker 3: the show Man. I slept for five hours during the day.
Speaker 4: I tell yes, see, I can't. Hey, when I go
Speaker 4: to Tutsi's. When I go to Tutsi's, you know, I
Speaker 4: got to get the seafood rice and lockstail. I take
Speaker 4: a nap during the day. And the fact that I
Speaker 4: only go to places where I can smoke my cigar.
Speaker 4: If I can't smoke a cigar, I'm not coming. I'm
Speaker 4: not coming, Like, don't even invite me.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm not, like I said, but I really never
Speaker 1: like I'm not. I'm not really a go out type
Speaker 1: of person. I like to go out for And I
Speaker 1: ain't really trying to. I ain't trying to close the
Speaker 1: club down right right, right right, a last call for alcohol,
Speaker 1: last call last I ain't try to be there, right,
Speaker 1: I ain't trying to. Hey, hey, you're still sitting on
Speaker 1: the stool and the man trying to move the stool
Speaker 1: out the way and try to clean up, and you're
Speaker 1: still there, broke ticul.
Speaker 3: And the lights come on.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and I heard some funny stories like women look different,
Speaker 4: women look different than you know. You get a couple
Speaker 4: of drinks, so you know some people that's really not attracted.
Speaker 4: They look a look different. You get a few drinks
Speaker 4: in you, they hit them lights on and you get
Speaker 4: to see what it looks like.
Speaker 2: And then you know, well, what happened? What happened when
Speaker 2: you ain't got no alcohol of you?
Speaker 4: Sisterm hey, wait, something my home boys say. When the
Speaker 4: lights come on, that's the fourth quarter. You better get
Speaker 4: what you can. You better get what you can.
Speaker 1: Noah out of lost this when I take my chance
Speaker 1: at this time. At the Cleveland Brown quarterback competition progresses
Speaker 1: into mandatory minicamps, Shador Sanders has often found themselves practicing
Speaker 1: with the backups while team other passes Flaco Picket and
Speaker 1: Dylan Gabriel have received first team reps. Shador said he's
Speaker 1: unbothered by practice reps instead of looking to take advantage.
Speaker 3: Of every opportunity to give.
Speaker 2: Life is just based on how you view different things.
Speaker 1: So you can view things if you're not getting reps
Speaker 1: in a negative way, or you can view it as Okay,
Speaker 1: it's my time to get out there, and let's be
Speaker 1: proactive and let's get warm, let's get going. So there's
Speaker 1: no excuses because when you get out there, nobody cares
Speaker 1: how many reps you got whenever you got in the game.
Speaker 1: Nobody cares if you took a snap before it. Everybody
Speaker 1: cares about production. So that's the main thing when you
Speaker 1: get out there, you got to be able to produce.
Speaker 1: Oh Joe, See I love this response. See now you
Speaker 1: got me questioning whether or not he was unprepared when
Speaker 1: he came to those meetings. I think y'all tried to
Speaker 1: salt that man up. I've only heard responses like this
Speaker 1: all the press conference.
Speaker 3: Yeah he had.
Speaker 1: I mean when he was in college, you know, he
Speaker 1: was a little frocetious at times. But I didn't never
Speaker 1: I never got the inclination that he was unprepared. If
Speaker 1: the one thing that he was going to be, it's prepared.
Speaker 1: His father prepared him. He understands his dad. Although he
Speaker 1: didn't play quarterback, he understood what comes along with playing
Speaker 1: the quarterback.
Speaker 3: Right. I just look.
Speaker 2: I love the way he's answered the quot, answered that.
Speaker 3: Question, answering the questions perfectly. And the funny thing about
Speaker 3: it that I know I got a I got a
Speaker 3: couple of young bulls out there. You know, I talked
Speaker 3: the Denzel Award. You know, I talked some, but let me,
Speaker 3: I sham my name, But anyway, I don't talk to
Speaker 3: some people.
Speaker 2: He looked different.
Speaker 4: There's a difference when that young bull is out there
Speaker 4: spinning that ball. Yeah, me, difference I'm talking about. I'm
Speaker 4: talking about football. I ain't talking about no media and
Speaker 4: all that, all that hoopla and all them you know
Speaker 4: on Twitter, they putting up the numbers something he would
Speaker 4: ten for twelve and two touchdown. I'm talking about when
Speaker 4: he's at the helm, he looks different. Whether he's going
Speaker 4: with the first team, second team of third team, it
Speaker 4: don't matter.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 4: I understand getting drafted in the fifth round, all that
Speaker 4: means nothing. When it's time to play football and that
Speaker 4: whistle blows, he looks different than the rest of the competition.
Speaker 4: That's That's what I heard. And I'm talking about I'm
Speaker 4: talking from from from a not not by the ward.
Speaker 4: I'm just talking about from sources that's in that room,
Speaker 4: that's on that field, that's playing the sport.
Speaker 3: Man.
Speaker 2: Come on, man, I think I can relate to Yeah,
Speaker 2: you can't relate to this.
Speaker 1: You a second round draft pick, so you've probably had
Speaker 1: worst case scenario was running with the second The two's
Speaker 1: as soon as you stepp foot in the camp. I
Speaker 1: was a somebody, but it's somebody that was a seventh
Speaker 1: round draft pick. And that was with the third fourth fifteen,
Speaker 1: the last guy to get a rep. Some days, Oh,
Speaker 1: yoll I get one rep? What I get one rep?
Speaker 1: That's all I got? Said, that's it?
Speaker 3: Oh, I would have cut up. Well you got me, man.
Speaker 1: I just I just remember having a conversation with my brother.
Speaker 1: My brother would tell me and say, Man, how it go?
Speaker 1: I sa eixplained, Man, I ain't man, they ain't gonna
Speaker 1: get dang. I got like one rep. I got like
Speaker 1: two reps. I an't even get in today, is it?
Speaker 1: Don't worry about that?
Speaker 3: He said.
Speaker 1: One day, John Elwig gonna call on you. Yes, sir,
Speaker 1: just make sure when he called on you, you answer.
Speaker 1: Just make sure you're supposed you where you're supposed to
Speaker 1: be when you're supposed to be there. That's all they
Speaker 1: told me. He said, Ah, Man, they messingoga. He never
Speaker 1: said he Hey, you know what you can do. Now
Speaker 1: you're gonna get your opportunities come yeah, and when it comes.
Speaker 1: I was with the threespoll it, but surely I was
Speaker 1: with the twos. Hey, now all of a sudden, Hey, shark,
Speaker 1: get in there. I'm in the slot, but I'm running
Speaker 1: with the ones. Okay, yeah, okay, so make the team
Speaker 1: Maine Special Teams. But you know, hey, they called it,
Speaker 1: want somebody if we ran the ball a bunch. So
Speaker 1: you know, I'm big receiver, I'm blocking. You know, hey,
Speaker 1: it didn't matter. I'm blocking forcher Ronnie Lott, you know,
Speaker 1: Eddie Anderson, all them big time, big time hitters.
Speaker 2: But that's the only thing that my brother told me.
Speaker 2: He didn't tell me they messing over me.
Speaker 3: He didn't say.
Speaker 1: All he said is like, you know what, John, then
Speaker 1: we're gonna call your number one day. Just make sure
Speaker 1: your answer. And I was like, you know, I would go,
Speaker 1: I would go ask John, man, what what can I
Speaker 1: do better? Man?
Speaker 2: I just I just want to be I just want
Speaker 2: to be like when you when you call them, I
Speaker 2: want to be there.
Speaker 3: He's like, hey, just.
Speaker 1: Make sure you get your head around, make sure you
Speaker 1: get your depth on your routes, blah blah blah.
Speaker 3: You know we run certain drills. He's like, hey, I
Speaker 3: like that. I like that effort.
Speaker 1: Slowly but surely so if I could give I can't
Speaker 1: give you no advice how to play the quarterback position.
Speaker 1: But I'll say, just keep doing that, Just keep just
Speaker 1: keep doing what you're doing. That's all you gotta do.
Speaker 1: And people like man, you always turned it in. I say, no,
Speaker 1: What I try to do is that in situations what
Speaker 1: ought you or now we try to do is that
Speaker 1: if we've been in those situations before, we can tell
Speaker 1: you how we handle it.
Speaker 2: We can go inside.
Speaker 1: Because you're talking to people that was in the huddle,
Speaker 1: not somebody I didn't cover the game. I cover the
Speaker 1: game now, But you're talking about somebody that was in
Speaker 1: the huddle. Know what it's like on fourth and three.
Speaker 1: That's know what it's like when it's first and goal
Speaker 1: and you're down six. So I ain't tell you what
Speaker 1: somebody told me to say. I'm telling you through firsthand knowledge,
Speaker 1: firsthand knowledge being in the locker room, being in those
Speaker 1: meeting rooms. I love what your door said. I love
Speaker 1: the way he's handling it. I don't know when that
Speaker 1: time is gonna come on, yoe. Yeah, because the man
Speaker 1: saying you don't know when I'm coming, he said, you
Speaker 1: better make sure you be right when I return. Shut
Speaker 1: door doesn't know when the opportunity will present itself.
Speaker 3: Gonna be ready. Hey, I want to get back to
Speaker 3: this one rep man.
Speaker 4: Now that that's that's stuck with me out of everything
Speaker 4: you never said, because but they raise hell you.
Speaker 2: Oh yo, I'm a seventh around draft pick. I'm a body.
Speaker 3: Oh ship, Okay, my bad ain't no. Yeah.
Speaker 1: If I was the first round draft pick and I
Speaker 1: ain't getting in but one rep or second round draft
Speaker 1: pick yet, I will, I will have some issues too.
Speaker 2: But I'm a seventh round draft pick. And you know
Speaker 2: the thing is with me.
Speaker 3: I played what I played. I played.
Speaker 2: I was the Z receiver.
Speaker 3: Yea.
Speaker 1: So now you know, Oh Joe, you coming to the
Speaker 1: rookie You see you slot you X. They throw you
Speaker 1: in a couple of players the type role. Can I
Speaker 1: let me learn one thing?
Speaker 3: Right?
Speaker 1: Come on, na, let me, let me let me. I'm
Speaker 1: trying to write cursing and you tried to get me
Speaker 1: to do trigonometry.
Speaker 3: Huh dang.
Speaker 1: One rep and two reps. So Joe, that's all we
Speaker 1: out there for two hours? You know, Hey, everybody else
Speaker 1: getting called to get in there. Hey, turn to get
Speaker 1: in there. Johnson, get in there, y'all get in there.
Speaker 1: Everybody get in there. Last place, shark, get.
Speaker 3: In that disease.
Speaker 1: Man.
Speaker 3: Listen, huh, let me tell you something.
Speaker 1: Oh, let me take that back. It was called it
Speaker 1: was not called a ze. It was called the wing.
Speaker 1: Right sharp you at the wing? Hey, huh, you gotta think.
Speaker 1: And two thousans Man TJ was on here with us.
Speaker 1: Remember he told you, yeah, I take I was taking scout.
Speaker 3: I'm talk about two thousand and five, two thousand and six.
Speaker 3: I'm t about my whole career.
Speaker 4: I ran our place, and I ran scout team, right.
Speaker 4: I'm I would purposely the gun on special teams. I
Speaker 4: would purposely going special team just to keep myself running
Speaker 4: through the whole practice. And our purposely took the scout
Speaker 4: team whoever the number one receiver based on who we're playing.
Speaker 4: Let's say we're playing the jag. You know we're playing
Speaker 4: the Jags. I'm Jimmy Smith on the scout team, and
Speaker 4: to take every rep because now I get to work with.
Speaker 3: The number one dB on our team, and gave him good.
Speaker 4: Work so he'd be ready for Jimmy or keeping keeping
Speaker 4: McCart there on Sunday yep, And I'm man Marvin and
Speaker 4: Hugh Jackson would have to pull me the f out
Speaker 4: of practice.
Speaker 1: But you know, Joey training camp, it ain't really no
Speaker 1: scout team. It's ones versus one one. Yes, yeah, you don't.
Speaker 1: You don't really get to the scout team until like
Speaker 1: that first preseason game because now, okay, offense, you going
Speaker 1: against the twos, uh defense going against the two offense,
Speaker 1: things like that. And then obviously when you get to
Speaker 1: the regular season, the scout team, you know, go to
Speaker 1: get and given that.
Speaker 2: So yeah that once the once the regular season came, Yeah,
Speaker 2: I was.
Speaker 3: I was that's me.
Speaker 1: I follow the ball right whoever had been that best receiver?
Speaker 1: It was Tim Brown. I'm Tim Brown, I'm Slim Brown.
Speaker 3: Oh Timmy man.
Speaker 1: Rod Smith came in, he said, Man, he was rocking
Speaker 1: right across from mind. And he every day he absorbed
Speaker 1: everything of everybody that was another offense that I've ever
Speaker 1: been around. Rod Smith probably was probably my greatest student
Speaker 1: because he absorbed everything.
Speaker 3: He said.
Speaker 1: Man, I just want I said, he said, Man, I want,
Speaker 1: I want that. I said, what you what he said, Man,
Speaker 1: the way the crowd cheer you, the way everybody respects you.
Speaker 1: He said, I want that. I said, tell you what.
Speaker 1: When the scout team come, whoever the best receiver is,
Speaker 1: you get that jersey. I don't care if your X,
Speaker 1: I don't care if you're Z. You get that jersey
Speaker 1: and you go out there when they say, hey, man's look,
Speaker 1: you bust their ass.
Speaker 2: I like that question.
Speaker 1: And the first time Foots got in the game, we
Speaker 1: playing Washington Endeavor three by one. We down pull one
Speaker 1: at he the ex receiver. They put him from the side,
Speaker 1: by himself, by hisself. He got Darren Green matched up
Speaker 1: on him, throwing the football. He jump over with Darryl
Speaker 1: Green and catch it. We win the game.
Speaker 3: Oh r, what wrong, lady?
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I talked you for us all the time. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: we ain't him. You know, I still it's it's a
Speaker 1: few guys I stay in touch with a lot. Obviously,
Speaker 1: Burns Uh I talked to the house who was about
Speaker 1: backup tight end Chock Eye was another backup tight end Foots.
Speaker 2: But you know, it's a few guys I still keep
Speaker 2: in touch with. Yeah, but that's what I tell guys.
Speaker 1: And a lot of the you know, they say they
Speaker 1: are conspiracy theory, circling that Cleveland, trying to force the
Speaker 1: early piece. Yeah, they're gonna do everything. They possibly can
Speaker 1: because they dressed. They don't want to look bad. Oh joke,
Speaker 1: I draft Gilan Gabriel. How did I drafted your Door?
Speaker 1: It's your door out playing, but I make me look
Speaker 1: bad if j gets in there, I signed you couldn't
Speaker 1: picket as a free agent. If he gets in that
Speaker 1: he out played forerformce Kinny Pickett. That makes me look bad.
Speaker 1: So I'm going to give these guys every opportunity to
Speaker 1: succeed because I don't want you try to make me
Speaker 1: look bad. Now you can say, oh yeah, we didn't
Speaker 1: have this grade on him. The matter the grade, because
Speaker 1: at the end of the day, you gotta play. You
Speaker 1: can give that guy a plus or B whatever the
Speaker 1: case may be.
Speaker 2: But when we get in there, yeah something got to give,
Speaker 2: all right.
Speaker 3: Let him some good days boy?
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, oh yes, but I love I love the
Speaker 1: way your Door answered the question. It's like, look, first
Speaker 1: Team seventeen thirteen, when they call my name, I'll be
Speaker 1: ready because they're doing nobody care. Didn't nobody care the
Speaker 1: A all the tight ends got hurt and they putting
Speaker 1: a seventh round picking there from Savannah State. An't nobody
Speaker 1: care nothing about that at all? This song was number
Speaker 1: eighty one. Sharp man, that's sterling brother. I wonder if
Speaker 1: he's as good as his brother. Hell, if I was,
Speaker 1: they better had touch it. They touched me to Seth Roder,
Speaker 1: I'm just as good as my brother. Somebody doing some
Speaker 1: helping some poor a scouting. But I thought I was,
Speaker 1: Oh Joe, you couldn't tell that I wasn't as good
Speaker 1: as my brother. I broke all his records. I did
Speaker 1: everything that he did. Everything he did. Now was he
Speaker 1: more physically like I was mortalented? He was a harder worker? Right,
Speaker 1: So what's like? Once I got to college, I was like, man,
Speaker 1: sh I'm like, man, scouts sain't really coming. Because he
Speaker 1: was telling me, Man, we had all the scouts from
Speaker 1: every team I think the title of like twenty eighteen,
Speaker 1: twenty seventeen. Every scott was here today. Oh yeah, y'all
Speaker 1: have the scouts, Like Noah, we have no scouts down here.
Speaker 1: So I know the opportunity. So I got to I
Speaker 1: got to do up to make the scouts come, right,
Speaker 1: that's it should do. Or keep doing what you're doing, bro,
Speaker 1: I love it. I know you're not your your dad
Speaker 1: dealing with a little some health problems right now. But
Speaker 1: you've gone through adversity before when you did Jackson State
Speaker 1: and your dad had that had those blood clots. You
Speaker 1: built for this. You are absolutely one thousand percent built
Speaker 1: for this. Head up, pray it up, stay up the volume.