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Speaker 1: The volume Ojo Shane Stikeen says Anthony Richardson Village visited

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Speaker 1: doctor Neil Elatrosh in Los Angeles to get a second

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Speaker 1: opinion on his shoulder. Dyken says nothing has changed and

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Speaker 1: the plan is to just rest the shoulder for now.

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Speaker 2: There's no timetable on his return.

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Speaker 3: Damn.

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Speaker 1: So you, oh, Joe, we start a race, we running,

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Speaker 1: all of a sudden, you catch a cramp or you

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Speaker 1: get tired, your stomach start to hurt, so you stop.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you see what happens. So Daniel Jones right now

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Speaker 3: is the starting quarterback for now? Absolutely? Okay, Okay, Daniel

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Speaker 3: Jones isn't answer either. Just f y.

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Speaker 1: I don't depend on what's the question? Name quarter back

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Speaker 1: that went to Duke he's the answer. Well you say

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Speaker 1: he's not to ask that. I just need to know

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Speaker 1: the question you ask you first.

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Speaker 4: Listen, Daniel Jones is not the answer. I don't care

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Speaker 4: what people say about Anthony Richardson him being heard. He

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Speaker 4: was inconsistent last year.

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Speaker 3: Whatever it may be.

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Speaker 4: Dam Jones isn't answer either, And I'm then that's no

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Speaker 4: disrespect to him.

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Speaker 3: I'm just being honest. We saw we saw a large,

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Speaker 3: simple side that what he could do in New York

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Speaker 3: and the biggest market. Yes, I think it's market. What's

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Speaker 3: some decent talent in the running.

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Speaker 4: You know, I think from a supporting cast standpoint, it's

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Speaker 4: a lot better.

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Speaker 3: Than Indy Forum.

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Speaker 2: Oh for sure.

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Speaker 1: They got Jonathan Taylor in the backfield and over receivers,

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Speaker 1: they got Pirs and and Pimplon Jr.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely, But yeah they got some talent over there.

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Speaker 2: Now out of the offensive line. Defense isn't bad.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, if you know it can't get it done here,

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Speaker 4: then you are the problem.

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Speaker 3: Damn man, And I was damn.

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Speaker 4: Oh yo, turn around here for Anthony Richardson.

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Speaker 1: Picked the wrong time to have this type of injury. Cause,

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Speaker 1: like I said, maybe it'since they see Jordan something like that.

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Speaker 1: He went to the Curland Joe Clint. They got uh

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Speaker 1: neil Ela Troc. Remember I was telling you about him.

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Speaker 2: Hold on, why are.

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Speaker 3: We waiting to do it now and not doing it

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Speaker 3: when the season ended? I don't know. Did he have certainty?

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Speaker 1: Did Maybe maybe he's throwing because a lot of times,

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Speaker 1: you know, they bring extra quarterbacks then o Joe, because

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Speaker 1: they don't want the quarterback throwing so much so early,

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Speaker 1: so so soon and sometimes they just get dead arms

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Speaker 1: and you know, gotta you know, I don't know how

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Speaker 1: much you through in the off season, you know, because

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Speaker 1: as a picture, you know, you gotta throw.

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Speaker 2: He might, he might.

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Speaker 3: He might be overdoing it. Man, they're the possibility of

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Speaker 3: that too.

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Speaker 2: We don't know.

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Speaker 3: We just two years ago.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, it's if he's having I think it's his

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Speaker 1: AC joint, isn't it. He had Uh, he had surgery

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Speaker 1: after his rook well, remember he missed, he only played.

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Speaker 1: He only played like three or four games his rookie

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Speaker 2: Seeing that he sword in that throwing shoulder that he

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Speaker 3: Damn.

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Speaker 2: Lions head coach.

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Speaker 1: Dan Campbell wants to have a live lion on the

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Speaker 1: team's sideline at Ford Field, but the NFL said hell no,

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Speaker 1: despite on a Sheila Ford hamp approving it. Sheila said

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Speaker 1: had no problem with it. But the league apparently proud

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Speaker 1: upon those type of things. You know what, he'll be

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Speaker 1: a perfect college coach because they definite let you have anything.

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Speaker 1: They let you have a clientsdale, They'll let you have

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Speaker 1: an elephant, a panther, LSU got LSU got what a

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Speaker 1: falcon flyt ist? And like at at Albert campbellt told

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Speaker 1: parton my parton my tape.

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Speaker 2: Oh Joe, I mean you want to lie on the sideline?

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Speaker 3: Yeah? Shit, I like that, So listen that all that does?

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Speaker 3: It gives me another idea. Obviously I'm not playing, but

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Speaker 4: Can you imagine me playing for Dan Campbell, you know,

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Speaker 4: back during those days and the lion on the sideline,

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Speaker 4: and I got it. I get to come up with

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Speaker 4: a celebration after scoring using the lion, using our mascot

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Speaker 4: man man, Yeah, I could see.

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Speaker 3: Me jumping in the cage.

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Speaker 2: I guess I can see that line.

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Speaker 1: Tear your ass up in that cage. NFL said the

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Speaker 1: last thing in the NFL. Won't that infant lion mess

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Speaker 3: Yojo? I don't know.

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Speaker 4: Listen, don't nobody go on no part of that when

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Speaker 4: you got on paths.

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Speaker 2: Or not, Because here's the thing. People don't realize.

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Speaker 1: Like you see a line on television and you're like, oh, hey,

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Speaker 1: that but when you see.

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Speaker 2: That close.

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Speaker 3: All right, four hundred pounds are all muscle? Hey, I

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Speaker 3: want you to think about it for the people in

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Speaker 3: the chat that have cats.

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Speaker 4: Right, just think about this, Think about the people that

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Speaker 4: have cats, and how quick and agile your regular home

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Speaker 4: the Mexican cat is.

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Speaker 1: Now you take a full how much they weigh four

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Speaker 4: Pound lion that has that same type of agility and quickness.

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Speaker 4: Just for some reason, they see twenty three hours a

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Speaker 4: day and can still jump out.

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Speaker 3: Man, it's dog. They are medicine is unbelievable. Unbelievable. And

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Speaker 3: they're so damn lazy.

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Speaker 1: Hey, they sleep half the day. They they hunt at night.

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Speaker 1: You get there, get their little hunt on, get their.

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Speaker 3: A and just chill. Yeah, what a life, bro.

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Speaker 1: Nah, Like I said, in college, you know, college didn't

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Speaker 1: let anything go. They have goats, and they have rams,

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Speaker 1: have Ralphrey ruther Field. Uh uh uh who is that?

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Speaker 1: Man and Horsey. Yeah, NFL said, nah were good.

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Speaker 3: I like it though that that would be dope.

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Speaker 4: That would be dope if if they could implement mascots

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Speaker 4: that were that that reference the teams, but had the

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Speaker 4: real mascot outside of.

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Speaker 1: Well we got on, we got we got mascot thund

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Speaker 1: to run on the field every time this court touchdown.

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Speaker 3: The horse.

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Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, See, every team, I'm saying, every team. The

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Speaker 4: Bengals should have an actual Bengal Tiger. I mean, I

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Speaker 4: think it would be dope, it'd be fun.

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Speaker 3: But you got your dad by I'm just being honest.

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Speaker 1: What the Cowboys? They do have a cowboy? I mean,

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Speaker 1: so I'm trying to figure out the Giants. How they

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Speaker 3: The Giants? What is the Giants mascott? That's it? Yeah, okay,

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Speaker 3: I like it. I like it.

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Speaker 2: I've just tried to figure out.

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Speaker 3: So the Seahawks having a seahawk.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, the Colts obviously having a horse. I'd assume the Chiefs,

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Speaker 4: that's easy.

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Speaker 3: Who else?

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Speaker 4: We got Broncos obviously you have the horse, we got Thunder. Okay, Well,

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Speaker 4: Panthers having a panther, Oh, that would be dope. A

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Speaker 4: black panther coming, Oh that that'll be live.

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Speaker 3: I'm trying to think what a Raven's It's easy to

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Speaker 3: get a guy, damn raven. Yeah, Buffalo Bills. Could you

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Speaker 3: imagin if they had a big bison? Oh you wanted

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Speaker 3: to run out and feel like Ralphie? Huh yeah yeah,

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Speaker 3: get you a real bison man. Yeah. NFL neither. They

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Speaker 3: might as well. Just you know, try something the NFL.

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Speaker 3: They do not want to pay no money. They make

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Speaker 3: all the money though. I know that's how you keep it.

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Speaker 1: You keep keep it and you can can you make

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Speaker 1: it and you don't, you don't spend it away with lasses. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: Marvin Harrison Jr.

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Speaker 2: Been hitting the jail Ojo.

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Speaker 1: Even Kyler Murray couldn't believe how different Marvin Harrison Jr.

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Speaker 3: Looked.

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Speaker 1: When asked about this transformation, Kyler said, hell, I.

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Speaker 3: Thought it was Ai. Yeah, he joked up. He more

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Speaker 3: than you, Ojo? He got you. Nah, we're buy the

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Speaker 3: same time.

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Speaker 2: Oh Joe, he got you.

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Speaker 3: Ojo. I'm bigger. I'm bigger than Junior. I'm bigger than Jr.

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Speaker 3: Nah huh, trust me, man, trust me what y'all think.

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Speaker 2: Y'all think, Oh Yo, bigger than m j all they.

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Speaker 3: Got to do. Look at me, man, look at this man.

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Speaker 4: Look at him, look at me, Look at this this

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Speaker 4: I think this is McDonald's man, talking about man.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, see, he got real good chicken breasts. You know

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Speaker 1: he probably had some broccoli, cauliflower, maybe carriage caesar salad,

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Speaker 3: Mean what you're talking about? Man? What is real boy

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Speaker 3: to talk about?

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Speaker 4: Hey, my a, I'm a full sea cup like I can't.

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Speaker 4: I gotta put I gotta put my tea. I gotta

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Speaker 4: get an egg.

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Speaker 3: A one size smaller T shirt just to keep him

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Speaker 3: a chest down.

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Speaker 2: You're still a small No? What this is a two

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Speaker 2: X you know it ain't.

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Speaker 3: This is a two X from H and M.

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Speaker 2: I can show you, show me.

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Speaker 3: H and M. See God dang Yo'll send me some

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Speaker 3: uh some shorts that talk about either two eggs? What's that?

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Speaker 2: God?

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Speaker 3: Damn things?

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Speaker 2: Little hunh that's who I'm saying for two eggs.

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Speaker 3: Hey, send me them bad you can on that reform them? Hey,

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Speaker 3: what kind of short thing is? They're supposed to be

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Speaker 3: yoga shorts? Oh they're supposed to be small.

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Speaker 2: Huh No, they di not for me?

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Speaker 4: Nah, you know for you know, hey, yoga, you support

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Speaker 4: I ain't never did yoga, but I'm supposed to supposed

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Speaker 4: to be free, you know, really How am I.

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Speaker 2: Free with those little love tiny ass things?

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Speaker 1: And you don't want nothing baggy though, Hey, I gotta

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Speaker 1: have about to have to have a jounk strap old bad.

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Speaker 2: Don't you supposed to have old baggy stuff in yoga?

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Speaker 4: Oh?

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Speaker 3: No, you want you want to be free?

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Speaker 1: Uh?

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Speaker 3: Nothing that's free. Baggy's free, not constricted. Okay, I got

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Speaker 3: you and y'all, I don't know. I think you might

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Speaker 3: have missed these Joe cit Joe sent me something too, man, So.

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Speaker 2: We'll we'll see. We'll see it tomorrow, Joe, oh Joe.

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Speaker 1: According to Ian Rappaport, James Cook is president at Mandatory

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Speaker 1: Minicamp every since a new deal. James Cook had a

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Speaker 1: simple response to why I like my money.

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Speaker 2: That's why I'm here.

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Speaker 1: Cook As he plays to fully participate in training camp, then.

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Speaker 3: They gonna take care of him.

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Speaker 4: They're gonna take and listen at the running back position,

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Speaker 4: you really can't play that game. But then boy, uh no,

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Speaker 4: I'm just being honest, but they do not play that

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Speaker 4: even though I we view you thus on the outside

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Speaker 4: Boys but you really can't play that. They already don't

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Speaker 3: Nah, I don't do that. Don't play that game. I'm glad.

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Speaker 1: Fab three day miss minicamp over one hundred and five

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Speaker 3: Care of me, oh Joe.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, hey, hey, uncle is got just think.

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Speaker 1: Not only can they take the money back that first year,

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Speaker 3: You know, what has he done in the past. What

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Speaker 4: Like, we're gonna take a chance on you, on his

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Speaker 4: It has to be, because there's no reason that the

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Speaker 3: Yeah. Allowed to be a year to year thing like.

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Speaker 4: If you mess up this year as your rookie, well

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Speaker 1: Well, the NFL should institute to find if a team

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Speaker 3: I gotta that wouldn't go for that, right exactly.

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Speaker 4: I was just absolutely Now, can you opt out and

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Speaker 1: That'd be something that that's something that the Players Association

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Speaker 2: Yes, ten percent, that's twenty two million.

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Speaker 3: Yeah it listen. It's unforst it's unfortunately, it's frustrating.

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Speaker 4: It's frustrating for me obviously being being a huge, huge

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Speaker 3: Is he interesting to see?

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Speaker 2: O Joe? How have they done this with other contracts?

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Speaker 3: Well, listen, I told you. I told you it was

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Speaker 3: Yeah, oh hell no, not no.

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Speaker 4: So man, we're not signing nothing until that's the pout

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Speaker 1: They're trying to draw land in the sand. And so

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Speaker 1: So in twenty twenty five they put this in this contract.

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Speaker 3: It's unfortunate, man, it's very frustrating, very frustrating.

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Speaker 1: Very Oh, y'all don't know if you noticed this today

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Speaker 2: No, he got leverage.

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Speaker 3: What would you do?

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Speaker 2: It could become a free agent?

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Speaker 3: What would you do?

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Speaker 2: I ain't said it not. I need money, I gotta player.

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Speaker 2: I can't go back to college.

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Speaker 1: I ain't got no eligibility because if I could, I

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Speaker 1: So with Schamark, with Moore, I'm sure others had him

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Speaker 1: I'm not saying I'm not sitting out on ya because,

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Speaker 3: I need that.

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Speaker 4: I need that and forget the I mean the money

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Speaker 4: I would work all the obstacles, I overcame everything. I

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Speaker 2: Thank you.

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Speaker 3: Now I get here.

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Speaker 4: That's another issue. That's another problem, something that I can't avoid.

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Speaker 4: It's the business side of then it's the ugly side

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Speaker 3: I hated. I know young boy wanted to get out

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Speaker 4: I understand if he sits out, I understand if he

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Speaker 3: But one thing about it. If you know the Bengals,

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Speaker 2: You're not.

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Speaker 4: You're not for to make them do nothing they don't

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00:21:28,600 --> 00:21:31,240
Speaker 4: want to do. You're not gonna set that precedent as

445
00:21:31,280 --> 00:21:33,240
Speaker 4: if you Joe so Oh.

446
00:21:33,160 --> 00:21:33,399
Speaker 2: I know.

447
00:21:33,600 --> 00:21:35,280
Speaker 1: But that's kind of why the Bengals have been in

448
00:21:35,280 --> 00:21:37,919
Speaker 1: that situation. They wouldn't pay Boomer, they wouldn't pay a

449
00:21:37,920 --> 00:21:39,720
Speaker 1: lot of their good players, and their good players left.

450
00:21:40,359 --> 00:21:42,000
Speaker 1: That's kind of why they've been in the situation. Now

451
00:21:42,000 --> 00:21:44,440
Speaker 1: you got an ideal situation. The last thing you want,

452
00:21:44,480 --> 00:21:46,359
Speaker 1: oh Joe, going into a season where you have so

453
00:21:46,440 --> 00:21:50,600
Speaker 1: much hope and promise is distraction. Joe told you the

454
00:21:50,720 --> 00:21:53,880
Speaker 1: Trey Henderson is a distraction because you're not asking how

455
00:21:53,920 --> 00:21:57,119
Speaker 1: we're getting better, You're asking what should they do? I

456
00:21:57,119 --> 00:21:59,639
Speaker 1: gotta keep asking this. Now I got to ask answer

457
00:21:59,640 --> 00:22:01,920
Speaker 1: another thing. Mentioning about my first round draft pick and

458
00:22:02,040 --> 00:22:04,560
Speaker 1: them not getting paid and them trying to set a

459
00:22:04,600 --> 00:22:06,480
Speaker 1: president that no other team is setting.

460
00:22:07,119 --> 00:22:10,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, distraction. But the Bengals don't see.

461
00:22:10,520 --> 00:22:13,360
Speaker 1: But here that's the thing, though, o Joe, Because see,

462
00:22:13,359 --> 00:22:17,120
Speaker 1: there's really no benefit other than your your ownership, warning pride.

463
00:22:17,440 --> 00:22:18,680
Speaker 2: That's the only benefit of winning.

464
00:22:18,880 --> 00:22:21,760
Speaker 1: Because guess what, Ojoe, whether you get whether you were

465
00:22:21,720 --> 00:22:25,639
Speaker 1: in the Philadelphia, the Philadelphia Eagles got the same amount

466
00:22:25,680 --> 00:22:28,359
Speaker 1: of money. Who was the worst, who picked first? Oh, Tennessee,

467
00:22:29,119 --> 00:22:32,119
Speaker 1: they got the same revenue. Everybody got a check for

468
00:22:32,160 --> 00:22:37,000
Speaker 1: three fifty. So tell me the incentive. See, we normally

469
00:22:37,000 --> 00:22:40,120
Speaker 1: have an incentive because you prize money, O Joe. You win,

470
00:22:40,200 --> 00:22:43,719
Speaker 1: you get three million, you get second, you get two million,

471
00:22:43,920 --> 00:22:46,719
Speaker 1: so forth and so on. But just imagine would that

472
00:22:46,760 --> 00:22:50,600
Speaker 1: be any incentive to win other than your pride? If Okay,

473
00:22:50,640 --> 00:22:54,399
Speaker 1: first prize get five million, Second prize get five million,

474
00:22:54,560 --> 00:22:56,000
Speaker 1: Third Pride get five million.

475
00:22:56,200 --> 00:22:56,960
Speaker 3: What incentive is.

476
00:22:57,000 --> 00:22:57,679
Speaker 2: That, Ojoe?

477
00:22:57,840 --> 00:23:00,080
Speaker 1: So the Bengals really don't have an incentive to do

478
00:23:00,119 --> 00:23:02,760
Speaker 1: anything because guess what, the NFL is gonna cut them

479
00:23:02,760 --> 00:23:05,480
Speaker 1: a check for three hundred and fifty million, just like

480
00:23:05,480 --> 00:23:08,160
Speaker 1: they're gonna cut the Super Bowl champion or the last

481
00:23:08,160 --> 00:23:11,440
Speaker 1: place team. And that's before they sell anything or they

482
00:23:11,480 --> 00:23:15,920
Speaker 1: have any event in the stadium. And so that's that's

483
00:23:15,680 --> 00:23:18,080
Speaker 1: that's that's why I mean it takes a special type.

484
00:23:18,080 --> 00:23:19,240
Speaker 2: I mean some ownership.

485
00:23:19,560 --> 00:23:22,920
Speaker 1: Clearly, Harry Roseman wants to win, even though the forty

486
00:23:23,000 --> 00:23:25,720
Speaker 1: nine ers haven't won. Hell, they go damn near all

487
00:23:25,760 --> 00:23:29,200
Speaker 1: in every year. Stan Kronkett, the owner of the Rams,

488
00:23:29,320 --> 00:23:31,399
Speaker 1: he wants to win. He damn near shoved chips in

489
00:23:31,400 --> 00:23:34,520
Speaker 1: the middle of table all year. If you notice, it's

490
00:23:34,560 --> 00:23:36,800
Speaker 1: only the Bengals that do things like this the high

491
00:23:36,840 --> 00:23:39,439
Speaker 1: goal and try to penny pinch bro You getting a

492
00:23:39,560 --> 00:23:44,960
Speaker 1: check for three point fifty three hundred and fifty billion, know, Joe, damn.

493
00:23:46,960 --> 00:23:50,760
Speaker 3: Hey, listen, well, it's frustrating.

494
00:23:50,800 --> 00:23:53,720
Speaker 1: Why it's very frustrated because, like you said, the last

495
00:23:53,760 --> 00:23:55,560
Speaker 1: thing that you want to have happened on Joe's to

496
00:23:55,600 --> 00:23:57,879
Speaker 1: have it? Why are we still talking about a rookie

497
00:23:57,880 --> 00:24:01,000
Speaker 1: a butt not sign? And here we are, damn damning

498
00:24:01,080 --> 00:24:03,320
Speaker 1: in July. We're gonna we're going, Hey, we're going to

499
00:24:03,359 --> 00:24:04,320
Speaker 1: training camp in the month.

500
00:24:04,720 --> 00:24:07,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, We're gonna training camp in the munt.

501
00:24:09,119 --> 00:24:10,520
Speaker 1: And you and I and I got to deal with

502
00:24:10,560 --> 00:24:14,000
Speaker 1: this bull jive. Oh, your new patches for the l

503
00:24:14,080 --> 00:24:17,600
Speaker 1: A Chargers practice Jersey show both personal and team achievement

504
00:24:17,680 --> 00:24:20,920
Speaker 1: on East Jersey. This is the first form of professional

505
00:24:21,160 --> 00:24:22,840
Speaker 1: This is the first form of professional football.

506
00:24:22,840 --> 00:24:24,760
Speaker 3: Team. Oh, how you like this?

507
00:24:25,040 --> 00:24:25,119
Speaker 1: So?

508
00:24:25,760 --> 00:24:28,359
Speaker 2: Okay, got captain? I can't read this?

509
00:24:28,920 --> 00:24:31,359
Speaker 3: Is that water? Is that water? And water bottles?

510
00:24:31,600 --> 00:24:33,840
Speaker 2: Okay? Yeah, so he got like you got it captain.

511
00:24:33,920 --> 00:24:34,920
Speaker 2: So you got the captains.

512
00:24:34,960 --> 00:24:36,720
Speaker 1: So you got a captain, and then you got a

513
00:24:36,720 --> 00:24:39,359
Speaker 1: start for one year, two year, three on, and you

514
00:24:39,440 --> 00:24:42,480
Speaker 1: got Pro Bowl, you got All Pro. If you you

515
00:24:42,800 --> 00:24:45,800
Speaker 1: got the franchise record most passing yards of the season, okay,

516
00:24:45,800 --> 00:24:47,920
Speaker 1: Oh Joe, you had the record for the most receiving yard,

517
00:24:48,080 --> 00:24:51,400
Speaker 1: you would have a patch, now, I mean that would

518
00:24:51,400 --> 00:24:53,120
Speaker 1: be you know what, It's kind of like, I guess

519
00:24:53,680 --> 00:24:56,320
Speaker 1: of like Nascar. You got you no dash goard, got

520
00:24:56,359 --> 00:24:58,280
Speaker 1: a native suit.

521
00:24:58,680 --> 00:25:01,440
Speaker 3: I mean this this is shirt strict for practice, right yeah?

522
00:25:01,520 --> 00:25:03,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I like it. Now you could put

523
00:25:03,640 --> 00:25:05,000
Speaker 2: a patch. You could put your patch on that if

524
00:25:05,040 --> 00:25:07,760
Speaker 2: you have a sponsor. But they NFL let you put

525
00:25:07,760 --> 00:25:08,320
Speaker 2: all those patches.

526
00:25:08,400 --> 00:25:10,800
Speaker 3: No, not, not without them monetizing and making some money

527
00:25:10,800 --> 00:25:13,280
Speaker 3: off of it. Yes, not that ain't happening. But listen not.

528
00:25:13,320 --> 00:25:14,119
Speaker 3: I think it's dopest.

529
00:25:14,760 --> 00:25:15,119
Speaker 4: I like it.

530
00:25:15,240 --> 00:25:15,399
Speaker 1: I do.

531
00:25:15,920 --> 00:25:19,160
Speaker 3: It's no different in college, you know, Ohio State buck guys.

532
00:25:19,160 --> 00:25:20,720
Speaker 3: I think f s U. You know, they get the

533
00:25:20,880 --> 00:25:22,280
Speaker 3: they get the Tomahawks, and I think.

534
00:25:22,359 --> 00:25:24,760
Speaker 1: Yeah you remember, yeah, you he the decal day, you

535
00:25:24,840 --> 00:25:27,080
Speaker 1: get a you got a big hit score touchdown.

536
00:25:27,400 --> 00:25:30,080
Speaker 2: Hey you know, hey, YoY I need to bring my

537
00:25:30,119 --> 00:25:31,359
Speaker 2: help because I had a day.

538
00:25:32,520 --> 00:25:33,560
Speaker 3: Yeah yours filled up?

539
00:25:33,760 --> 00:25:35,120
Speaker 2: Oh yeah yet filled up? Yeah.

540
00:25:35,160 --> 00:25:37,560
Speaker 3: We have scored the cross Bowls right right, right right,

541
00:25:37,560 --> 00:25:40,800
Speaker 3: and we have called the Crawl Bowls. Don't yoke, okay, okay,

542
00:25:40,880 --> 00:25:42,560
Speaker 3: I mean I think it's dope. It's cool and cool.

543
00:25:42,680 --> 00:25:44,880
Speaker 4: I mean it's it's it's I don't think you really

544
00:25:44,920 --> 00:25:48,080
Speaker 4: need centivized NFL players and reminding them, you know, their

545
00:25:48,119 --> 00:25:50,399
Speaker 4: accolades and what they've done what they've done today, but

546
00:25:50,480 --> 00:25:53,520
Speaker 4: if they feel having it on the jersey and patches,

547
00:25:53,800 --> 00:25:56,359
Speaker 4: it's some type of motivating, motivating tactic.

548
00:25:56,480 --> 00:25:57,640
Speaker 3: I guess it's cool.

549
00:25:58,240 --> 00:26:00,600
Speaker 1: Think about what what you would do with coach said, hey,

550
00:26:00,840 --> 00:26:02,680
Speaker 1: we win this game, we ain't got to come in

551
00:26:02,840 --> 00:26:04,080
Speaker 1: till Wednesday, but.

552
00:26:06,680 --> 00:26:08,960
Speaker 3: I don't care if that let me get money to

553
00:26:09,320 --> 00:26:10,880
Speaker 3: money and money and Tuesday off.

554
00:26:10,960 --> 00:26:11,320
Speaker 2: Man stop.

555
00:26:12,119 --> 00:26:15,119
Speaker 1: The joke was going, hey, hey man, especially if you

556
00:26:15,240 --> 00:26:17,840
Speaker 1: home man God trying to catch them fight out Sunday

557
00:26:17,920 --> 00:26:18,159
Speaker 1: night to.

558
00:26:18,200 --> 00:26:20,120
Speaker 2: Go somewhere out of the right.

559
00:26:22,640 --> 00:26:25,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, oh hey, all right, hey, have a good practice.

560
00:26:25,800 --> 00:26:30,000
Speaker 1: We off tomorrow. I'm like, really, do really, y'all gonna

561
00:26:30,000 --> 00:26:31,800
Speaker 1: do this? But put so y'all so in other words,

562
00:26:31,840 --> 00:26:37,120
Speaker 1: y'all been bullgiving the other practice. But it's it's it's

563
00:26:37,160 --> 00:26:39,639
Speaker 1: a little thing like that. Hey, hey, we're gonna have

564
00:26:39,720 --> 00:26:42,399
Speaker 1: a way. We'll have a cookout off. Because we always

565
00:26:42,400 --> 00:26:45,040
Speaker 1: did faith office against the defense. There was always competition,

566
00:26:45,400 --> 00:26:48,680
Speaker 1: whether we bowl, we we you know, we got divided.

567
00:26:48,359 --> 00:26:50,719
Speaker 3: Up teams and shot and it was always off.

568
00:26:50,880 --> 00:26:53,440
Speaker 1: We always compete against each other, right right right, And

569
00:26:53,600 --> 00:26:55,639
Speaker 1: so I get it, but I liked I do like

570
00:26:55,720 --> 00:26:56,159
Speaker 1: that old Joe.

571
00:26:56,200 --> 00:26:57,200
Speaker 2: I like that. I like it.

572
00:26:57,520 --> 00:27:01,320
Speaker 3: It's dope, He's dope, He's dope. Something new. Yeah, it's

573
00:27:01,400 --> 00:27:02,640
Speaker 3: kind of like the All Star.

574
00:27:02,760 --> 00:27:05,720
Speaker 1: You know, All Star in basketball, they started putting your

575
00:27:05,760 --> 00:27:08,840
Speaker 1: accomplishment full time League, MVP, Finals, MVP.

576
00:27:09,560 --> 00:27:11,680
Speaker 2: How many All Star teams you made?

577
00:27:11,840 --> 00:27:15,240
Speaker 3: How many all the NBA teams you made? So I

578
00:27:15,480 --> 00:27:18,920
Speaker 3: like it. Uh, you think other team's gonna adopt this

579
00:27:19,000 --> 00:27:21,400
Speaker 3: on Joe? I think they will. I mean, I think

580
00:27:21,440 --> 00:27:23,639
Speaker 3: they will. It all depends you think about it.

581
00:27:23,960 --> 00:27:25,840
Speaker 4: When you look at the landscape of the NFL, you

582
00:27:25,880 --> 00:27:27,880
Speaker 4: know there's only maybe three or four, three or four

583
00:27:27,920 --> 00:27:29,680
Speaker 4: players that's gonna have patches on their stuff.

584
00:27:29,760 --> 00:27:31,840
Speaker 1: Man, because they did it with the Walla to Payton.

585
00:27:31,840 --> 00:27:33,840
Speaker 1: You remember all yours? You want the Walter Payton Award.

586
00:27:34,040 --> 00:27:35,240
Speaker 1: They put that, they put that.

587
00:27:35,280 --> 00:27:38,000
Speaker 4: Da Yes, I do, I do remember that. I do

588
00:27:38,119 --> 00:27:40,239
Speaker 4: remember that absolutely. But I think I think, I think

589
00:27:40,280 --> 00:27:42,440
Speaker 4: other teams may adopt it. You know, some some team

590
00:27:42,600 --> 00:27:45,240
Speaker 4: might not really care for it or or or want

591
00:27:45,320 --> 00:27:48,800
Speaker 4: to go to that extent of adding patches of accolades

592
00:27:48,880 --> 00:27:50,200
Speaker 4: and what people have done.

593
00:27:50,680 --> 00:27:52,480
Speaker 2: They do that, hold on, they do that at the

594
00:27:52,720 --> 00:27:53,240
Speaker 2: super Bowl.

595
00:27:53,320 --> 00:27:54,920
Speaker 1: Now you know how the guys come out there in

596
00:27:54,960 --> 00:27:57,440
Speaker 1: the tracksuit's on a Tuesday and for the thing that

597
00:27:57,520 --> 00:27:59,600
Speaker 1: you see the m vps and stud Super Bowl.

598
00:27:59,720 --> 00:28:02,399
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, so I like I like this, I like this.

599
00:28:02,480 --> 00:28:03,200
Speaker 2: I can get behind it.

600
00:28:03,400 --> 00:28:05,440
Speaker 3: It might be something new, might be something oh Joe.

601
00:28:06,000 --> 00:28:08,600
Speaker 1: Left tackle Trent william says his goal is to play

602
00:28:08,640 --> 00:28:11,680
Speaker 1: into his forties. He turns thirty seven in July. It's

603
00:28:11,760 --> 00:28:13,760
Speaker 1: one of them things that were I'm going to do

604
00:28:13,880 --> 00:28:16,200
Speaker 1: everything possible to play as long as I can and

605
00:28:16,320 --> 00:28:18,440
Speaker 1: to put a good product on the foot on foot

606
00:28:18,600 --> 00:28:22,200
Speaker 1: of football out there, and then when it's going my way,

607
00:28:22,320 --> 00:28:25,119
Speaker 1: then I'll know. But I could play until I'm forty one,

608
00:28:25,200 --> 00:28:27,760
Speaker 1: who knows. But that's a goal of mine. I'm definitely

609
00:28:27,800 --> 00:28:30,480
Speaker 1: not going to retire with some left in the tank.

610
00:28:30,760 --> 00:28:33,439
Speaker 1: So in other words, he said, hey, when the wheels

611
00:28:33,480 --> 00:28:37,280
Speaker 1: fall off off and Carl rolls Oude of the Sister

612
00:28:37,400 --> 00:28:39,040
Speaker 1: to drag my ass off the field, But until then,

613
00:28:39,120 --> 00:28:39,600
Speaker 1: I'm playing.

614
00:28:40,120 --> 00:28:42,200
Speaker 4: That's it. And one thing about it, someone like Trent,

615
00:28:42,400 --> 00:28:45,560
Speaker 4: someone of Trent Williams caliber and as good as he is,

616
00:28:45,680 --> 00:28:47,440
Speaker 4: can play well into he's forty as.

617
00:28:47,360 --> 00:28:52,280
Speaker 3: Well, can stay healthy. Yep, we stay healthy. That that's

618
00:28:52,320 --> 00:28:53,040
Speaker 3: that's all. It goes that.

619
00:28:53,320 --> 00:28:55,760
Speaker 4: That's all it comes down to. And he asked, Obviously,

620
00:28:55,880 --> 00:28:58,840
Speaker 4: the older you get, the more technically sound, you gotta be.

621
00:28:59,600 --> 00:29:02,440
Speaker 4: The old, the more technically sound, you gotta be.

622
00:29:02,720 --> 00:29:03,440
Speaker 3: Some young bulls.

623
00:29:03,800 --> 00:29:06,920
Speaker 4: You know them, they're coming, they're screaming off that edge. Well,

624
00:29:07,160 --> 00:29:10,960
Speaker 4: they y'all coming as great as he is. They got

625
00:29:11,040 --> 00:29:11,960
Speaker 4: to make sure that kicks.

626
00:29:11,760 --> 00:29:15,080
Speaker 3: Still right now, you better getting better angle down. So

627
00:29:15,880 --> 00:29:19,240
Speaker 3: if anybody you're thinking the thing is now ojo.

628
00:29:19,640 --> 00:29:21,680
Speaker 1: Guys do a better job of taking care of themselves,

629
00:29:21,760 --> 00:29:24,320
Speaker 1: regardless of position, and even though they might not have

630
00:29:24,480 --> 00:29:27,959
Speaker 1: the most aesthetic bodies, guys take better care of themselves, right,

631
00:29:28,280 --> 00:29:29,880
Speaker 1: Guys take better care of them So they do. They

632
00:29:30,040 --> 00:29:30,280
Speaker 1: just do.

633
00:29:30,760 --> 00:29:33,240
Speaker 2: Because I got into the league, guys were still smoking cigarettes.

634
00:29:35,520 --> 00:29:37,440
Speaker 1: I ain't gonna call them name. Well, guy was still

635
00:29:37,480 --> 00:29:40,640
Speaker 1: smoking cigarettes. Hey we get a break. God going to

636
00:29:40,760 --> 00:29:45,120
Speaker 1: the car. They standing outside the car, they're smoking. I

637
00:29:45,120 --> 00:29:46,560
Speaker 1: gotta tell you the funny thing I see. I saw

638
00:29:46,600 --> 00:29:48,480
Speaker 1: Greg Towns and that the Raiders. I mean, we're walking

639
00:29:48,520 --> 00:29:50,360
Speaker 1: in the first game of the season, were playing on

640
00:29:50,480 --> 00:29:54,000
Speaker 1: the road at the old Coliseum. Man, I get all

641
00:29:54,080 --> 00:29:55,720
Speaker 1: walking out and walk into the locker room. By the

642
00:29:55,760 --> 00:29:59,200
Speaker 1: time I get there. He's sitting outside on his helmet smoking.

643
00:30:01,080 --> 00:30:05,400
Speaker 1: I do believe it on Joe, did.

644
00:30:05,320 --> 00:30:05,880
Speaker 2: I know guys?

645
00:30:05,960 --> 00:30:08,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, we had very prominent guys on our on our team,

646
00:30:08,720 --> 00:30:10,840
Speaker 1: they smoke, but not on Sunday.

647
00:30:11,360 --> 00:30:12,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's the game.

648
00:30:13,360 --> 00:30:17,200
Speaker 1: You know that classic picture of Lynn Dawson. Yeah, that's

649
00:30:17,280 --> 00:30:21,640
Speaker 1: that's exactly how Town was sitting on his helmet a cigarette.

650
00:30:22,560 --> 00:30:24,640
Speaker 1: But you remember that picture there that I think that

651
00:30:24,720 --> 00:30:27,320
Speaker 1: picture been black and white. Yeah, I saw it was

652
00:30:27,400 --> 00:30:28,400
Speaker 1: our old color eyes.

653
00:30:28,960 --> 00:30:31,680
Speaker 3: Hey that's funny man, Yes, they too.

654
00:30:31,880 --> 00:30:33,920
Speaker 2: It was wild back there, like some of the stuff.

655
00:30:34,400 --> 00:30:36,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, I didn't heard the story. Boy, you ain't got

656
00:30:36,840 --> 00:30:38,960
Speaker 3: to tell me. Listen, listen. I have said that twin

657
00:30:39,000 --> 00:30:41,520
Speaker 3: pieces for LT and I didn't got them. Got some

658
00:30:41,560 --> 00:30:44,680
Speaker 3: good stories. I don't got some. I mean, I don't

659
00:30:44,680 --> 00:30:46,640
Speaker 3: mean to be disrespectful. Right, But when you.

660
00:30:46,680 --> 00:30:49,360
Speaker 4: Played football, when you used to fly airlines, do messic?

661
00:30:49,560 --> 00:30:51,400
Speaker 4: Was that during the time they could smoke cigarettes on

662
00:30:51,440 --> 00:30:54,840
Speaker 4: the plane. Yes, yeah, yeah, that's crazy.

663
00:30:55,240 --> 00:30:55,440
Speaker 3: Yeah.

664
00:30:56,680 --> 00:30:59,200
Speaker 1: Smoking restaurants, you had a smoking section of a non

665
00:30:59,240 --> 00:31:01,680
Speaker 1: smoking section, like would you like to see the smoking

666
00:31:01,760 --> 00:31:03,400
Speaker 1: or nine And a lot of people like, well what's

667
00:31:03,440 --> 00:31:04,240
Speaker 1: first available?

668
00:31:05,040 --> 00:31:06,840
Speaker 2: But but if you if you at a restaurant. What

669
00:31:06,920 --> 00:31:09,000
Speaker 2: it's about throwing You might be back to back with

670
00:31:09,200 --> 00:31:09,960
Speaker 2: a smoking.

671
00:31:09,680 --> 00:31:16,880
Speaker 3: Section, do damn you know a history? Or is your

672
00:31:16,920 --> 00:31:17,680
Speaker 3: pizza self? Right?

673
00:31:18,080 --> 00:31:19,640
Speaker 2: No, I don't think that was coming back on your

674
00:31:20,680 --> 00:31:22,360
Speaker 2: Hell no, not smoking and door. Nah.

675
00:31:23,000 --> 00:31:29,040
Speaker 1: Now you go to the casino, Oh yeah, you know anything?

676
00:31:29,120 --> 00:31:31,800
Speaker 1: They smoking cigare cigarettes, weed all of the club. That's

677
00:31:31,840 --> 00:31:33,680
Speaker 1: what That's what really stopped me from going to the club.

678
00:31:33,760 --> 00:31:37,240
Speaker 2: Bout yo. Why all that smoked man, you gotta you

679
00:31:37,280 --> 00:31:39,560
Speaker 2: gotta hang your shirt up in the shower with stuff.

680
00:31:39,960 --> 00:31:41,160
Speaker 3: Okay, I understand what you're saying.

681
00:31:41,400 --> 00:31:41,680
Speaker 2: I didn't.

682
00:31:41,680 --> 00:31:43,120
Speaker 3: I didn't know that would the tur you from going

683
00:31:43,120 --> 00:31:43,560
Speaker 3: to the club.

684
00:31:43,640 --> 00:31:46,120
Speaker 2: Now, yeah, I don't like all that the turb be

685
00:31:46,160 --> 00:31:47,640
Speaker 2: from going to the club. I don't like.

686
00:31:48,320 --> 00:31:50,480
Speaker 1: Oh I can't stay. I ain't no, I ain't no late.

687
00:31:50,600 --> 00:31:52,360
Speaker 1: I'm a I'm an early Roger, so I need to

688
00:31:52,400 --> 00:31:52,600
Speaker 1: be in.

689
00:31:53,280 --> 00:31:55,600
Speaker 4: Don't forget it now, your boy, here's an early Risers too. Now,

690
00:31:55,600 --> 00:31:56,800
Speaker 4: I understand understand what you got.

691
00:31:56,960 --> 00:31:57,280
Speaker 3: I'm saying.

692
00:31:57,280 --> 00:31:58,720
Speaker 4: I take a nap during the day if I know

693
00:31:58,800 --> 00:32:01,080
Speaker 4: I'm gonna want to do something. Yeah, when I went

694
00:32:01,080 --> 00:32:02,080
Speaker 4: to Area twenty.

695
00:32:01,960 --> 00:32:04,120
Speaker 3: Nine, Yeah, he had to do I had to do

696
00:32:04,280 --> 00:32:06,800
Speaker 3: the show Man. I slept for five hours during the day.

697
00:32:06,840 --> 00:32:09,480
Speaker 4: I tell yes, see, I can't. Hey, when I go

698
00:32:09,520 --> 00:32:11,480
Speaker 4: to Tutsi's. When I go to Tutsi's, you know, I

699
00:32:11,560 --> 00:32:14,120
Speaker 4: got to get the seafood rice and lockstail. I take

700
00:32:14,160 --> 00:32:16,960
Speaker 4: a nap during the day. And the fact that I

701
00:32:17,080 --> 00:32:18,880
Speaker 4: only go to places where I can smoke my cigar.

702
00:32:19,000 --> 00:32:21,880
Speaker 4: If I can't smoke a cigar, I'm not coming. I'm

703
00:32:21,960 --> 00:32:24,000
Speaker 4: not coming, Like, don't even invite me.

704
00:32:32,600 --> 00:32:35,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm not, like I said, but I really never

705
00:32:35,320 --> 00:32:37,440
Speaker 1: like I'm not. I'm not really a go out type

706
00:32:37,440 --> 00:32:39,200
Speaker 1: of person. I like to go out for And I

707
00:32:39,200 --> 00:32:41,200
Speaker 1: ain't really trying to. I ain't trying to close the

708
00:32:41,240 --> 00:32:44,680
Speaker 1: club down right right, right right, a last call for alcohol,

709
00:32:45,480 --> 00:32:48,959
Speaker 1: last call last I ain't try to be there, right,

710
00:32:50,360 --> 00:32:53,120
Speaker 1: I ain't trying to. Hey, hey, you're still sitting on

711
00:32:53,160 --> 00:32:54,560
Speaker 1: the stool and the man trying to move the stool

712
00:32:54,560 --> 00:32:56,120
Speaker 1: out the way and try to clean up, and you're

713
00:32:56,120 --> 00:32:57,320
Speaker 1: still there, broke ticul.

714
00:32:58,320 --> 00:32:59,040
Speaker 3: And the lights come on.

715
00:32:59,680 --> 00:33:03,240
Speaker 4: Yeah, and I heard some funny stories like women look different,

716
00:33:03,360 --> 00:33:04,840
Speaker 4: women look different than you know. You get a couple

717
00:33:04,840 --> 00:33:06,960
Speaker 4: of drinks, so you know some people that's really not attracted.

718
00:33:07,000 --> 00:33:08,600
Speaker 4: They look a look different. You get a few drinks

719
00:33:08,640 --> 00:33:11,400
Speaker 4: in you, they hit them lights on and you get

720
00:33:11,440 --> 00:33:12,280
Speaker 4: to see what it looks like.

721
00:33:12,440 --> 00:33:14,400
Speaker 2: And then you know, well, what happened? What happened when

722
00:33:14,440 --> 00:33:15,520
Speaker 2: you ain't got no alcohol of you?

723
00:33:15,640 --> 00:33:18,960
Speaker 4: Sisterm hey, wait, something my home boys say. When the

724
00:33:19,080 --> 00:33:21,200
Speaker 4: lights come on, that's the fourth quarter. You better get

725
00:33:21,240 --> 00:33:24,800
Speaker 4: what you can. You better get what you can.

726
00:33:26,520 --> 00:33:29,400
Speaker 1: Noah out of lost this when I take my chance

727
00:33:29,440 --> 00:33:32,920
Speaker 1: at this time. At the Cleveland Brown quarterback competition progresses

728
00:33:33,000 --> 00:33:36,800
Speaker 1: into mandatory minicamps, Shador Sanders has often found themselves practicing

729
00:33:36,880 --> 00:33:40,600
Speaker 1: with the backups while team other passes Flaco Picket and

730
00:33:40,680 --> 00:33:43,840
Speaker 1: Dylan Gabriel have received first team reps. Shador said he's

731
00:33:43,960 --> 00:33:47,080
Speaker 1: unbothered by practice reps instead of looking to take advantage.

732
00:33:46,640 --> 00:33:47,680
Speaker 3: Of every opportunity to give.

733
00:33:48,200 --> 00:33:50,920
Speaker 2: Life is just based on how you view different things.

734
00:33:51,240 --> 00:33:53,760
Speaker 1: So you can view things if you're not getting reps

735
00:33:53,840 --> 00:33:55,840
Speaker 1: in a negative way, or you can view it as Okay,

736
00:33:56,160 --> 00:33:57,720
Speaker 1: it's my time to get out there, and let's be

737
00:33:58,400 --> 00:34:01,760
Speaker 1: proactive and let's get warm, let's get going. So there's

738
00:34:01,800 --> 00:34:04,680
Speaker 1: no excuses because when you get out there, nobody cares

739
00:34:04,720 --> 00:34:07,160
Speaker 1: how many reps you got whenever you got in the game.

740
00:34:07,520 --> 00:34:09,880
Speaker 1: Nobody cares if you took a snap before it. Everybody

741
00:34:09,960 --> 00:34:12,759
Speaker 1: cares about production. So that's the main thing when you

742
00:34:12,840 --> 00:34:15,640
Speaker 1: get out there, you got to be able to produce.

743
00:34:16,040 --> 00:34:19,600
Speaker 1: Oh Joe, See I love this response. See now you

744
00:34:19,719 --> 00:34:23,080
Speaker 1: got me questioning whether or not he was unprepared when

745
00:34:23,120 --> 00:34:24,960
Speaker 1: he came to those meetings. I think y'all tried to

746
00:34:25,000 --> 00:34:29,279
Speaker 1: salt that man up. I've only heard responses like this

747
00:34:29,920 --> 00:34:30,880
Speaker 1: all the press conference.

748
00:34:30,960 --> 00:34:31,400
Speaker 3: Yeah he had.

749
00:34:31,480 --> 00:34:32,680
Speaker 1: I mean when he was in college, you know, he

750
00:34:32,760 --> 00:34:35,480
Speaker 1: was a little frocetious at times. But I didn't never

751
00:34:35,640 --> 00:34:42,880
Speaker 1: I never got the inclination that he was unprepared. If

752
00:34:42,920 --> 00:34:46,160
Speaker 1: the one thing that he was going to be, it's prepared.

753
00:34:46,840 --> 00:34:49,520
Speaker 1: His father prepared him. He understands his dad. Although he

754
00:34:49,600 --> 00:34:53,520
Speaker 1: didn't play quarterback, he understood what comes along with playing

755
00:34:53,880 --> 00:34:54,560
Speaker 1: the quarterback.

756
00:34:55,080 --> 00:34:56,200
Speaker 3: Right. I just look.

757
00:34:56,960 --> 00:34:59,000
Speaker 2: I love the way he's answered the quot, answered that.

758
00:34:59,080 --> 00:35:02,560
Speaker 3: Question, answering the questions perfectly. And the funny thing about

759
00:35:02,560 --> 00:35:04,320
Speaker 3: it that I know I got a I got a

760
00:35:04,360 --> 00:35:06,040
Speaker 3: couple of young bulls out there. You know, I talked

761
00:35:06,080 --> 00:35:09,239
Speaker 3: the Denzel Award. You know, I talked some, but let me,

762
00:35:09,320 --> 00:35:11,800
Speaker 3: I sham my name, But anyway, I don't talk to

763
00:35:11,880 --> 00:35:12,280
Speaker 3: some people.

764
00:35:12,520 --> 00:35:13,320
Speaker 2: He looked different.

765
00:35:13,880 --> 00:35:16,200
Speaker 4: There's a difference when that young bull is out there

766
00:35:16,280 --> 00:35:19,160
Speaker 4: spinning that ball. Yeah, me, difference I'm talking about. I'm

767
00:35:19,160 --> 00:35:21,000
Speaker 4: talking about football. I ain't talking about no media and

768
00:35:21,040 --> 00:35:23,360
Speaker 4: all that, all that hoopla and all them you know

769
00:35:23,480 --> 00:35:25,520
Speaker 4: on Twitter, they putting up the numbers something he would

770
00:35:25,560 --> 00:35:27,759
Speaker 4: ten for twelve and two touchdown. I'm talking about when

771
00:35:27,800 --> 00:35:30,239
Speaker 4: he's at the helm, he looks different. Whether he's going

772
00:35:30,239 --> 00:35:32,719
Speaker 4: with the first team, second team of third team, it

773
00:35:32,840 --> 00:35:33,319
Speaker 4: don't matter.

774
00:35:34,080 --> 00:35:34,239
Speaker 2: You know.

775
00:35:34,440 --> 00:35:37,120
Speaker 4: I understand getting drafted in the fifth round, all that

776
00:35:37,360 --> 00:35:39,960
Speaker 4: means nothing. When it's time to play football and that

777
00:35:40,000 --> 00:35:42,840
Speaker 4: whistle blows, he looks different than the rest of the competition.

778
00:35:44,239 --> 00:35:46,359
Speaker 4: That's That's what I heard. And I'm talking about I'm

779
00:35:46,400 --> 00:35:49,120
Speaker 4: talking from from from a not not by the ward.

780
00:35:49,160 --> 00:35:51,520
Speaker 4: I'm just talking about from sources that's in that room,

781
00:35:51,760 --> 00:35:54,520
Speaker 4: that's on that field, that's playing the sport.

782
00:35:56,400 --> 00:35:56,600
Speaker 3: Man.

783
00:35:56,680 --> 00:36:00,640
Speaker 2: Come on, man, I think I can relate to Yeah,

784
00:36:01,280 --> 00:36:02,160
Speaker 2: you can't relate to this.

785
00:36:02,239 --> 00:36:04,400
Speaker 1: You a second round draft pick, so you've probably had

786
00:36:04,440 --> 00:36:06,720
Speaker 1: worst case scenario was running with the second The two's

787
00:36:07,120 --> 00:36:09,000
Speaker 1: as soon as you stepp foot in the camp. I

788
00:36:09,040 --> 00:36:11,960
Speaker 1: was a somebody, but it's somebody that was a seventh

789
00:36:12,040 --> 00:36:15,280
Speaker 1: round draft pick. And that was with the third fourth fifteen,

790
00:36:15,360 --> 00:36:17,359
Speaker 1: the last guy to get a rep. Some days, Oh,

791
00:36:17,440 --> 00:36:20,879
Speaker 1: yoll I get one rep? What I get one rep?

792
00:36:20,960 --> 00:36:22,600
Speaker 1: That's all I got? Said, that's it?

793
00:36:23,200 --> 00:36:26,160
Speaker 3: Oh, I would have cut up. Well you got me, man.

794
00:36:27,040 --> 00:36:30,279
Speaker 1: I just I just remember having a conversation with my brother.

795
00:36:30,400 --> 00:36:31,960
Speaker 1: My brother would tell me and say, Man, how it go?

796
00:36:32,080 --> 00:36:34,160
Speaker 1: I sa eixplained, Man, I ain't man, they ain't gonna

797
00:36:34,160 --> 00:36:36,520
Speaker 1: get dang. I got like one rep. I got like

798
00:36:36,600 --> 00:36:39,080
Speaker 1: two reps. I an't even get in today, is it?

799
00:36:39,120 --> 00:36:39,800
Speaker 1: Don't worry about that?

800
00:36:40,920 --> 00:36:41,239
Speaker 3: He said.

801
00:36:41,239 --> 00:36:43,600
Speaker 1: One day, John Elwig gonna call on you. Yes, sir,

802
00:36:44,320 --> 00:36:46,040
Speaker 1: just make sure when he called on you, you answer.

803
00:36:47,680 --> 00:36:50,040
Speaker 1: Just make sure you're supposed you where you're supposed to

804
00:36:50,120 --> 00:36:53,239
Speaker 1: be when you're supposed to be there. That's all they

805
00:36:53,280 --> 00:36:55,680
Speaker 1: told me. He said, Ah, Man, they messingoga. He never

806
00:36:55,760 --> 00:36:58,719
Speaker 1: said he Hey, you know what you can do. Now

807
00:36:58,760 --> 00:37:02,400
Speaker 1: you're gonna get your opportunities come yeah, and when it comes.

808
00:37:04,400 --> 00:37:07,239
Speaker 1: I was with the threespoll it, but surely I was

809
00:37:07,280 --> 00:37:11,000
Speaker 1: with the twos. Hey, now all of a sudden, Hey, shark,

810
00:37:11,480 --> 00:37:13,480
Speaker 1: get in there. I'm in the slot, but I'm running

811
00:37:13,480 --> 00:37:22,319
Speaker 1: with the ones. Okay, yeah, okay, so make the team

812
00:37:22,360 --> 00:37:24,239
Speaker 1: Maine Special Teams. But you know, hey, they called it,

813
00:37:24,360 --> 00:37:26,719
Speaker 1: want somebody if we ran the ball a bunch. So

814
00:37:27,200 --> 00:37:29,680
Speaker 1: you know, I'm big receiver, I'm blocking. You know, hey,

815
00:37:29,719 --> 00:37:32,680
Speaker 1: it didn't matter. I'm blocking forcher Ronnie Lott, you know,

816
00:37:32,840 --> 00:37:35,400
Speaker 1: Eddie Anderson, all them big time, big time hitters.

817
00:37:35,960 --> 00:37:37,960
Speaker 2: But that's the only thing that my brother told me.

818
00:37:38,040 --> 00:37:39,600
Speaker 2: He didn't tell me they messing over me.

819
00:37:39,760 --> 00:37:40,200
Speaker 3: He didn't say.

820
00:37:40,239 --> 00:37:42,120
Speaker 1: All he said is like, you know what, John, then

821
00:37:42,160 --> 00:37:44,839
Speaker 1: we're gonna call your number one day. Just make sure

822
00:37:44,880 --> 00:37:47,600
Speaker 1: your answer. And I was like, you know, I would go,

823
00:37:47,680 --> 00:37:49,400
Speaker 1: I would go ask John, man, what what can I

824
00:37:49,440 --> 00:37:49,960
Speaker 1: do better? Man?

825
00:37:50,000 --> 00:37:51,319
Speaker 2: I just I just want to be I just want

826
00:37:51,360 --> 00:37:52,920
Speaker 2: to be like when you when you call them, I

827
00:37:52,960 --> 00:37:53,520
Speaker 2: want to be there.

828
00:37:53,760 --> 00:37:54,799
Speaker 3: He's like, hey, just.

829
00:37:54,840 --> 00:37:56,920
Speaker 1: Make sure you get your head around, make sure you

830
00:37:57,000 --> 00:37:59,040
Speaker 1: get your depth on your routes, blah blah blah.

831
00:37:59,440 --> 00:38:02,560
Speaker 3: You know we run certain drills. He's like, hey, I

832
00:38:02,760 --> 00:38:03,800
Speaker 3: like that. I like that effort.

833
00:38:05,880 --> 00:38:08,680
Speaker 1: Slowly but surely so if I could give I can't

834
00:38:08,680 --> 00:38:10,640
Speaker 1: give you no advice how to play the quarterback position.

835
00:38:11,000 --> 00:38:14,840
Speaker 1: But I'll say, just keep doing that, Just keep just

836
00:38:14,960 --> 00:38:17,080
Speaker 1: keep doing what you're doing. That's all you gotta do.

837
00:38:17,280 --> 00:38:19,520
Speaker 1: And people like man, you always turned it in. I say, no,

838
00:38:19,680 --> 00:38:22,239
Speaker 1: What I try to do is that in situations what

839
00:38:22,400 --> 00:38:24,239
Speaker 1: ought you or now we try to do is that

840
00:38:24,440 --> 00:38:27,440
Speaker 1: if we've been in those situations before, we can tell

841
00:38:27,480 --> 00:38:28,600
Speaker 1: you how we handle it.

842
00:38:29,320 --> 00:38:30,680
Speaker 2: We can go inside.

843
00:38:30,760 --> 00:38:32,720
Speaker 1: Because you're talking to people that was in the huddle,

844
00:38:33,000 --> 00:38:35,480
Speaker 1: not somebody I didn't cover the game. I cover the

845
00:38:35,560 --> 00:38:37,600
Speaker 1: game now, But you're talking about somebody that was in

846
00:38:37,719 --> 00:38:40,239
Speaker 1: the huddle. Know what it's like on fourth and three.

847
00:38:40,719 --> 00:38:43,279
Speaker 1: That's know what it's like when it's first and goal

848
00:38:43,880 --> 00:38:46,600
Speaker 1: and you're down six. So I ain't tell you what

849
00:38:46,719 --> 00:38:49,920
Speaker 1: somebody told me to say. I'm telling you through firsthand knowledge,

850
00:38:51,440 --> 00:38:54,560
Speaker 1: firsthand knowledge being in the locker room, being in those

851
00:38:54,640 --> 00:39:00,600
Speaker 1: meeting rooms. I love what your door said. I love

852
00:39:00,719 --> 00:39:03,600
Speaker 1: the way he's handling it. I don't know when that

853
00:39:03,680 --> 00:39:06,480
Speaker 1: time is gonna come on, yoe. Yeah, because the man

854
00:39:06,560 --> 00:39:08,759
Speaker 1: saying you don't know when I'm coming, he said, you

855
00:39:08,880 --> 00:39:14,160
Speaker 1: better make sure you be right when I return. Shut

856
00:39:14,280 --> 00:39:18,000
Speaker 1: door doesn't know when the opportunity will present itself.

857
00:39:18,200 --> 00:39:22,279
Speaker 3: Gonna be ready. Hey, I want to get back to

858
00:39:22,360 --> 00:39:23,239
Speaker 3: this one rep man.

859
00:39:23,480 --> 00:39:25,480
Speaker 4: Now that that's that's stuck with me out of everything

860
00:39:25,480 --> 00:39:29,320
Speaker 4: you never said, because but they raise hell you.

861
00:39:29,640 --> 00:39:31,560
Speaker 2: Oh yo, I'm a seventh around draft pick. I'm a body.

862
00:39:32,239 --> 00:39:34,480
Speaker 3: Oh ship, Okay, my bad ain't no. Yeah.

863
00:39:34,520 --> 00:39:35,840
Speaker 1: If I was the first round draft pick and I

864
00:39:35,840 --> 00:39:37,640
Speaker 1: ain't getting in but one rep or second round draft

865
00:39:37,640 --> 00:39:39,759
Speaker 1: pick yet, I will, I will have some issues too.

866
00:39:40,080 --> 00:39:44,840
Speaker 2: But I'm a seventh round draft pick. And you know

867
00:39:45,080 --> 00:39:45,800
Speaker 2: the thing is with me.

868
00:39:45,960 --> 00:39:47,640
Speaker 3: I played what I played. I played.

869
00:39:48,520 --> 00:39:49,720
Speaker 2: I was the Z receiver.

870
00:39:50,400 --> 00:39:50,520
Speaker 3: Yea.

871
00:39:50,840 --> 00:39:52,400
Speaker 1: So now you know, Oh Joe, you coming to the

872
00:39:52,480 --> 00:39:57,759
Speaker 1: rookie You see you slot you X. They throw you

873
00:39:57,840 --> 00:39:59,759
Speaker 1: in a couple of players the type role. Can I

874
00:40:00,160 --> 00:40:01,200
Speaker 1: let me learn one thing?

875
00:40:01,719 --> 00:40:01,839
Speaker 3: Right?

876
00:40:02,520 --> 00:40:04,600
Speaker 1: Come on, na, let me, let me let me. I'm

877
00:40:04,640 --> 00:40:06,560
Speaker 1: trying to write cursing and you tried to get me

878
00:40:06,640 --> 00:40:07,560
Speaker 1: to do trigonometry.

879
00:40:07,800 --> 00:40:09,279
Speaker 3: Huh dang.

880
00:40:11,040 --> 00:40:13,680
Speaker 1: One rep and two reps. So Joe, that's all we

881
00:40:13,840 --> 00:40:20,319
Speaker 1: out there for two hours? You know, Hey, everybody else

882
00:40:20,360 --> 00:40:22,040
Speaker 1: getting called to get in there. Hey, turn to get

883
00:40:22,080 --> 00:40:24,920
Speaker 1: in there. Johnson, get in there, y'all get in there.

884
00:40:24,960 --> 00:40:29,080
Speaker 1: Everybody get in there. Last place, shark, get.

885
00:40:28,960 --> 00:40:29,600
Speaker 3: In that disease.

886
00:40:30,680 --> 00:40:30,879
Speaker 1: Man.

887
00:40:31,040 --> 00:40:33,080
Speaker 3: Listen, huh, let me tell you something.

888
00:40:33,120 --> 00:40:35,840
Speaker 1: Oh, let me take that back. It was called it

889
00:40:36,000 --> 00:40:37,759
Speaker 1: was not called a ze. It was called the wing.

890
00:40:38,480 --> 00:40:45,839
Speaker 1: Right sharp you at the wing? Hey, huh, you gotta think.

891
00:40:47,000 --> 00:40:48,960
Speaker 1: And two thousans Man TJ was on here with us.

892
00:40:49,600 --> 00:40:52,919
Speaker 1: Remember he told you, yeah, I take I was taking scout.

893
00:40:52,960 --> 00:40:55,120
Speaker 3: I'm talk about two thousand and five, two thousand and six.

894
00:40:55,160 --> 00:40:57,120
Speaker 3: I'm t about my whole career.

895
00:40:57,680 --> 00:41:01,520
Speaker 4: I ran our place, and I ran scout team, right.

896
00:41:01,960 --> 00:41:05,600
Speaker 4: I'm I would purposely the gun on special teams. I

897
00:41:05,640 --> 00:41:09,000
Speaker 4: would purposely going special team just to keep myself running

898
00:41:09,280 --> 00:41:12,760
Speaker 4: through the whole practice. And our purposely took the scout

899
00:41:12,840 --> 00:41:15,200
Speaker 4: team whoever the number one receiver based on who we're playing.

900
00:41:15,560 --> 00:41:17,479
Speaker 4: Let's say we're playing the jag. You know we're playing

901
00:41:17,480 --> 00:41:20,000
Speaker 4: the Jags. I'm Jimmy Smith on the scout team, and

902
00:41:20,080 --> 00:41:22,960
Speaker 4: to take every rep because now I get to work with.

903
00:41:23,040 --> 00:41:26,800
Speaker 3: The number one dB on our team, and gave him good.

904
00:41:26,719 --> 00:41:30,080
Speaker 4: Work so he'd be ready for Jimmy or keeping keeping

905
00:41:30,160 --> 00:41:34,040
Speaker 4: McCart there on Sunday yep, And I'm man Marvin and

906
00:41:34,200 --> 00:41:37,040
Speaker 4: Hugh Jackson would have to pull me the f out

907
00:41:37,080 --> 00:41:37,600
Speaker 4: of practice.

908
00:41:37,880 --> 00:41:40,080
Speaker 1: But you know, Joey training camp, it ain't really no

909
00:41:40,200 --> 00:41:44,680
Speaker 1: scout team. It's ones versus one one. Yes, yeah, you don't.

910
00:41:44,840 --> 00:41:47,759
Speaker 1: You don't really get to the scout team until like

911
00:41:47,960 --> 00:41:51,759
Speaker 1: that first preseason game because now, okay, offense, you going

912
00:41:51,800 --> 00:41:56,080
Speaker 1: against the twos, uh defense going against the two offense,

913
00:41:56,360 --> 00:41:58,320
Speaker 1: things like that. And then obviously when you get to

914
00:41:58,400 --> 00:42:00,440
Speaker 1: the regular season, the scout team, you know, go to

915
00:42:00,480 --> 00:42:01,040
Speaker 1: get and given that.

916
00:42:01,239 --> 00:42:05,520
Speaker 2: So yeah that once the once the regular season came, Yeah,

917
00:42:05,600 --> 00:42:05,920
Speaker 2: I was.

918
00:42:06,680 --> 00:42:07,960
Speaker 3: I was that's me.

919
00:42:08,120 --> 00:42:11,160
Speaker 1: I follow the ball right whoever had been that best receiver?

920
00:42:11,280 --> 00:42:13,600
Speaker 1: It was Tim Brown. I'm Tim Brown, I'm Slim Brown.

921
00:42:16,440 --> 00:42:17,399
Speaker 3: Oh Timmy man.

922
00:42:18,640 --> 00:42:21,480
Speaker 1: Rod Smith came in, he said, Man, he was rocking

923
00:42:21,680 --> 00:42:24,560
Speaker 1: right across from mind. And he every day he absorbed

924
00:42:24,640 --> 00:42:28,400
Speaker 1: everything of everybody that was another offense that I've ever

925
00:42:28,520 --> 00:42:31,360
Speaker 1: been around. Rod Smith probably was probably my greatest student

926
00:42:31,680 --> 00:42:33,040
Speaker 1: because he absorbed everything.

927
00:42:33,440 --> 00:42:33,799
Speaker 3: He said.

928
00:42:33,800 --> 00:42:35,839
Speaker 1: Man, I just want I said, he said, Man, I want,

929
00:42:35,920 --> 00:42:38,440
Speaker 1: I want that. I said, what you what he said, Man,

930
00:42:38,560 --> 00:42:42,080
Speaker 1: the way the crowd cheer you, the way everybody respects you.

931
00:42:42,280 --> 00:42:44,080
Speaker 1: He said, I want that. I said, tell you what.

932
00:42:44,560 --> 00:42:47,440
Speaker 1: When the scout team come, whoever the best receiver is,

933
00:42:47,800 --> 00:42:50,400
Speaker 1: you get that jersey. I don't care if your X,

934
00:42:50,640 --> 00:42:53,000
Speaker 1: I don't care if you're Z. You get that jersey

935
00:42:53,440 --> 00:42:55,600
Speaker 1: and you go out there when they say, hey, man's look,

936
00:42:56,080 --> 00:42:56,960
Speaker 1: you bust their ass.

937
00:42:58,560 --> 00:42:59,439
Speaker 2: I like that question.

938
00:42:59,760 --> 00:43:03,440
Speaker 1: And the first time Foots got in the game, we

939
00:43:03,600 --> 00:43:10,000
Speaker 1: playing Washington Endeavor three by one. We down pull one

940
00:43:10,160 --> 00:43:13,120
Speaker 1: at he the ex receiver. They put him from the side,

941
00:43:13,160 --> 00:43:16,680
Speaker 1: by himself, by hisself. He got Darren Green matched up

942
00:43:16,719 --> 00:43:19,879
Speaker 1: on him, throwing the football. He jump over with Darryl

943
00:43:19,920 --> 00:43:21,200
Speaker 1: Green and catch it. We win the game.

944
00:43:25,560 --> 00:43:28,359
Speaker 3: Oh r, what wrong, lady?

945
00:43:28,960 --> 00:43:31,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I talked you for us all the time. Yeah, yeah,

946
00:43:31,560 --> 00:43:33,920
Speaker 1: we ain't him. You know, I still it's it's a

947
00:43:33,960 --> 00:43:36,120
Speaker 1: few guys I stay in touch with a lot. Obviously,

948
00:43:36,200 --> 00:43:38,520
Speaker 1: Burns Uh I talked to the house who was about

949
00:43:38,520 --> 00:43:41,560
Speaker 1: backup tight end Chock Eye was another backup tight end Foots.

950
00:43:41,920 --> 00:43:43,560
Speaker 2: But you know, it's a few guys I still keep

951
00:43:43,640 --> 00:43:46,879
Speaker 2: in touch with. Yeah, but that's what I tell guys.

952
00:43:47,320 --> 00:43:49,880
Speaker 1: And a lot of the you know, they say they

953
00:43:49,920 --> 00:43:52,759
Speaker 1: are conspiracy theory, circling that Cleveland, trying to force the

954
00:43:52,800 --> 00:43:56,319
Speaker 1: early piece. Yeah, they're gonna do everything. They possibly can

955
00:43:56,840 --> 00:43:59,279
Speaker 1: because they dressed. They don't want to look bad. Oh joke,

956
00:44:00,120 --> 00:44:03,040
Speaker 1: I draft Gilan Gabriel. How did I drafted your Door?

957
00:44:03,040 --> 00:44:05,640
Speaker 1: It's your door out playing, but I make me look

958
00:44:05,719 --> 00:44:08,960
Speaker 1: bad if j gets in there, I signed you couldn't

959
00:44:08,960 --> 00:44:11,520
Speaker 1: picket as a free agent. If he gets in that

960
00:44:11,640 --> 00:44:14,319
Speaker 1: he out played forerformce Kinny Pickett. That makes me look bad.

961
00:44:15,000 --> 00:44:18,640
Speaker 1: So I'm going to give these guys every opportunity to

962
00:44:18,840 --> 00:44:23,320
Speaker 1: succeed because I don't want you try to make me

963
00:44:23,360 --> 00:44:25,759
Speaker 1: look bad. Now you can say, oh yeah, we didn't

964
00:44:25,800 --> 00:44:29,400
Speaker 1: have this grade on him. The matter the grade, because

965
00:44:29,400 --> 00:44:30,759
Speaker 1: at the end of the day, you gotta play. You

966
00:44:30,840 --> 00:44:32,759
Speaker 1: can give that guy a plus or B whatever the

967
00:44:32,800 --> 00:44:33,279
Speaker 1: case may be.

968
00:44:33,880 --> 00:44:36,759
Speaker 2: But when we get in there, yeah something got to give,

969
00:44:39,520 --> 00:44:39,920
Speaker 2: all right.

970
00:44:40,000 --> 00:44:41,359
Speaker 3: Let him some good days boy?

971
00:44:42,160 --> 00:44:46,800
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, oh yes, but I love I love the

972
00:44:46,840 --> 00:44:50,480
Speaker 1: way your Door answered the question. It's like, look, first

973
00:44:50,520 --> 00:44:53,239
Speaker 1: Team seventeen thirteen, when they call my name, I'll be

974
00:44:53,320 --> 00:44:57,040
Speaker 1: ready because they're doing nobody care. Didn't nobody care the

975
00:44:57,120 --> 00:44:59,239
Speaker 1: A all the tight ends got hurt and they putting

976
00:44:59,239 --> 00:45:02,560
Speaker 1: a seventh round picking there from Savannah State. An't nobody

977
00:45:02,600 --> 00:45:04,759
Speaker 1: care nothing about that at all? This song was number

978
00:45:04,800 --> 00:45:07,279
Speaker 1: eighty one. Sharp man, that's sterling brother. I wonder if

979
00:45:07,280 --> 00:45:09,120
Speaker 1: he's as good as his brother. Hell, if I was,

980
00:45:09,200 --> 00:45:11,200
Speaker 1: they better had touch it. They touched me to Seth Roder,

981
00:45:11,239 --> 00:45:13,200
Speaker 1: I'm just as good as my brother. Somebody doing some

982
00:45:13,320 --> 00:45:18,080
Speaker 1: helping some poor a scouting. But I thought I was,

983
00:45:18,160 --> 00:45:20,440
Speaker 1: Oh Joe, you couldn't tell that I wasn't as good

984
00:45:20,480 --> 00:45:22,839
Speaker 1: as my brother. I broke all his records. I did

985
00:45:22,960 --> 00:45:25,880
Speaker 1: everything that he did. Everything he did. Now was he

986
00:45:26,040 --> 00:45:32,080
Speaker 1: more physically like I was mortalented? He was a harder worker? Right,

987
00:45:32,680 --> 00:45:35,879
Speaker 1: So what's like? Once I got to college, I was like, man,

988
00:45:37,600 --> 00:45:44,120
Speaker 1: sh I'm like, man, scouts sain't really coming. Because he

989
00:45:44,280 --> 00:45:47,560
Speaker 1: was telling me, Man, we had all the scouts from

990
00:45:47,560 --> 00:45:49,400
Speaker 1: every team I think the title of like twenty eighteen,

991
00:45:49,480 --> 00:45:53,480
Speaker 1: twenty seventeen. Every scott was here today. Oh yeah, y'all

992
00:45:53,520 --> 00:45:55,640
Speaker 1: have the scouts, Like Noah, we have no scouts down here.

993
00:45:56,640 --> 00:45:59,480
Speaker 1: So I know the opportunity. So I got to I

994
00:45:59,560 --> 00:46:01,719
Speaker 1: got to do up to make the scouts come, right,

995
00:46:04,840 --> 00:46:07,040
Speaker 1: that's it should do. Or keep doing what you're doing, bro,

996
00:46:07,560 --> 00:46:10,440
Speaker 1: I love it. I know you're not your your dad

997
00:46:10,520 --> 00:46:12,880
Speaker 1: dealing with a little some health problems right now. But

998
00:46:15,960 --> 00:46:19,520
Speaker 1: you've gone through adversity before when you did Jackson State

999
00:46:19,560 --> 00:46:22,440
Speaker 1: and your dad had that had those blood clots. You

1000
00:46:22,560 --> 00:46:26,040
Speaker 1: built for this. You are absolutely one thousand percent built

1001
00:46:26,080 --> 00:46:35,080
Speaker 1: for this. Head up, pray it up, stay up the volume.