1 00:00:00,240 --> 00:00:02,640 Speaker 1: Hello, and welcome back to movie Mike's movie podcast. I 2 00:00:02,680 --> 00:00:04,760 Speaker 1: am your host. Movie Mike joined this week with my 3 00:00:04,800 --> 00:00:06,960 Speaker 1: wife and co host Kelsey. How are you? 4 00:00:07,280 --> 00:00:07,760 Speaker 2: I'm great. 5 00:00:07,960 --> 00:00:10,200 Speaker 1: We're going to talk about the best and worst movies, 6 00:00:10,240 --> 00:00:14,360 Speaker 1: our first best and worst of the year February January. 7 00:00:14,360 --> 00:00:16,320 Speaker 1: We're kind of slow, so we're grouping it all together. 8 00:00:16,520 --> 00:00:20,040 Speaker 1: In the movie review, we'll be talking about Dune Part two, 9 00:00:20,640 --> 00:00:22,759 Speaker 1: which you're not looking forward to because it's almost three 10 00:00:22,800 --> 00:00:23,360 Speaker 1: hours long. 11 00:00:23,440 --> 00:00:26,439 Speaker 2: It's very long, and I think I fell asleep during 12 00:00:26,440 --> 00:00:28,120 Speaker 2: the first Dune Dune. 13 00:00:28,640 --> 00:00:30,760 Speaker 1: Is it worth the runtime? We'll get into that in 14 00:00:30,800 --> 00:00:33,040 Speaker 1: the movie review, and then in the trailer park we'll 15 00:00:33,040 --> 00:00:37,839 Speaker 1: talk about Wicked, which I'm oddly surprised how good it looks, 16 00:00:38,080 --> 00:00:40,920 Speaker 1: and I just have kind of this weird fascination with 17 00:00:40,960 --> 00:00:43,519 Speaker 1: anything Wizard of Oz. I'm actually looking forward to it, 18 00:00:43,520 --> 00:00:45,720 Speaker 1: so we'll talk about that in the trailer park. Thank 19 00:00:45,760 --> 00:00:48,320 Speaker 1: you for being subscribed, Thank you for listening every single week. 20 00:00:48,520 --> 00:00:51,720 Speaker 1: Shout out to the Monday Morning movie crew. Now let's 21 00:00:51,720 --> 00:00:52,360 Speaker 1: talk movies. 22 00:00:52,600 --> 00:00:55,520 Speaker 2: I would like to just say we're recording this. 23 00:00:55,800 --> 00:00:57,080 Speaker 1: I've already begun the intro. 24 00:00:57,840 --> 00:01:01,120 Speaker 2: What I'm the co host. I can cut you off. Okay, 25 00:01:01,320 --> 00:01:05,240 Speaker 2: we're recording this on Thursday evening. I'm going into Dune 26 00:01:05,280 --> 00:01:06,520 Speaker 2: saying I'm not gonna like it. 27 00:01:06,880 --> 00:01:07,240 Speaker 1: Okay. 28 00:01:07,560 --> 00:01:10,319 Speaker 2: I would love to come back to the movie review 29 00:01:10,520 --> 00:01:13,280 Speaker 2: and say that I enjoyed it, but I'm putting it 30 00:01:13,319 --> 00:01:15,120 Speaker 2: out there at the start of this podcast that I'm 31 00:01:15,120 --> 00:01:16,280 Speaker 2: not looking forward to it. 32 00:01:16,440 --> 00:01:18,000 Speaker 1: Okay, Hopefully it changes your mind. 33 00:01:18,440 --> 00:01:20,080 Speaker 2: And to find out if I liked it or not, 34 00:01:20,360 --> 00:01:21,720 Speaker 2: you have to listen to the whole episode. 35 00:01:21,840 --> 00:01:23,680 Speaker 1: There you go. Now can we talk movies? 36 00:01:24,040 --> 00:01:24,440 Speaker 2: Yeah? 37 00:01:24,480 --> 00:01:27,560 Speaker 1: Okay, and now let's talk movies. 38 00:01:28,280 --> 00:01:31,520 Speaker 3: In a world where everyone and their mother has a podcast, 39 00:01:32,000 --> 00:01:35,920 Speaker 3: one man stands to infiltrate the ears of listeners like 40 00:01:36,000 --> 00:01:38,400 Speaker 3: never before in a movie podcast. 41 00:01:39,160 --> 00:01:41,320 Speaker 1: A man with so much movie knowledge. 42 00:01:41,400 --> 00:01:45,600 Speaker 3: He's basically like a walking IMTB with glasses. 43 00:01:45,920 --> 00:01:47,720 Speaker 1: From the Nashville Podcast Network. 44 00:01:47,920 --> 00:01:51,280 Speaker 3: This is Movie Mikes, Movie Podcast. 45 00:01:52,360 --> 00:01:54,920 Speaker 1: All right, let's get right into it. Like we said 46 00:01:54,960 --> 00:01:58,480 Speaker 1: earlier January February, where the dump months of the year 47 00:01:58,640 --> 00:02:01,960 Speaker 1: meeting that student just kind of throw crap at the 48 00:02:02,000 --> 00:02:04,720 Speaker 1: wall and see what sticks. And I think this year 49 00:02:04,840 --> 00:02:07,000 Speaker 1: in particular, there's a lot of crap. It was a 50 00:02:07,040 --> 00:02:09,680 Speaker 1: lot of crap. Like I know sometimes in January, we 51 00:02:09,720 --> 00:02:12,519 Speaker 1: get like a horror movie that ends up being pretty good. 52 00:02:13,080 --> 00:02:16,639 Speaker 1: I feel like this year so far, we've had some 53 00:02:16,720 --> 00:02:19,880 Speaker 1: real bombs out there, just straight up not even the 54 00:02:19,880 --> 00:02:21,480 Speaker 1: worst movies of the year, but the worst movie is 55 00:02:21,480 --> 00:02:22,520 Speaker 1: in a really long time. 56 00:02:22,680 --> 00:02:24,200 Speaker 2: I had to think long and hard about what was 57 00:02:24,200 --> 00:02:24,840 Speaker 2: my favorite. 58 00:02:24,919 --> 00:02:27,760 Speaker 1: Well, it's saying a lot when the highest grossing movie 59 00:02:27,800 --> 00:02:30,760 Speaker 1: so far of the year is The Beekeeper with Jason Stathum. 60 00:02:30,960 --> 00:02:34,120 Speaker 1: It's made one hundred and fifty million worldwide, which isn't 61 00:02:34,160 --> 00:02:36,720 Speaker 1: that much for the highest grossing That is the highest 62 00:02:36,720 --> 00:02:39,799 Speaker 1: grossing right now. If all movies were set and done today, 63 00:02:39,840 --> 00:02:42,640 Speaker 1: the highest grossing movies would be The Beekeeper, Bob Marley, 64 00:02:42,760 --> 00:02:45,639 Speaker 1: Mean Girls, Argyle, and Madam Webb. Did I just give 65 00:02:45,680 --> 00:02:48,079 Speaker 1: you the landscape with movies right now? Kick it off 66 00:02:48,120 --> 00:02:50,600 Speaker 1: with you first? What was the best movie we saw 67 00:02:50,680 --> 00:02:51,720 Speaker 1: so far this year? For you? 68 00:02:51,919 --> 00:02:53,280 Speaker 2: Like I said, I had to think long and hard. 69 00:02:53,520 --> 00:02:56,200 Speaker 2: I had to re examine the list. It would be 70 00:02:56,240 --> 00:02:59,079 Speaker 2: Self Reliance on Hulu, which I didn't even really want 71 00:02:59,080 --> 00:02:59,480 Speaker 2: to watch. 72 00:03:00,120 --> 00:03:03,160 Speaker 1: Now, I feel like people are you either loved that 73 00:03:03,240 --> 00:03:05,800 Speaker 1: movie like we did, or you hate it because it's 74 00:03:05,840 --> 00:03:09,480 Speaker 1: about Jake Johnson's character who essentially is playing this dark 75 00:03:09,520 --> 00:03:13,000 Speaker 1: web reality show where if he can stay alive for 76 00:03:13,080 --> 00:03:14,760 Speaker 1: thirty days, he wins a million dollars. 77 00:03:15,120 --> 00:03:17,200 Speaker 2: And this is also not to say I loved the movie. 78 00:03:17,440 --> 00:03:19,800 Speaker 2: It just is the best out of what we've seen. 79 00:03:19,960 --> 00:03:21,679 Speaker 1: See. I ended up really enjoying it. 80 00:03:21,960 --> 00:03:23,600 Speaker 2: I'm just saying it's not like something that I'm like, 81 00:03:23,639 --> 00:03:25,280 Speaker 2: you must go out and watch it. It is just 82 00:03:25,360 --> 00:03:27,840 Speaker 2: from the list of things that we saw. 83 00:03:27,960 --> 00:03:30,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think so far there's this year, there's not 84 00:03:30,320 --> 00:03:33,840 Speaker 1: one movie that has implanted itself into my fiber of 85 00:03:33,960 --> 00:03:37,160 Speaker 1: movie watching that this is a movie I highly highly recommend. 86 00:03:37,360 --> 00:03:38,280 Speaker 1: Haven't got there yet. 87 00:03:38,440 --> 00:03:41,000 Speaker 2: I would, I almost, but I know. We saw it 88 00:03:41,040 --> 00:03:42,800 Speaker 2: on the thirtieth of December. We talked about it, but 89 00:03:42,880 --> 00:03:45,600 Speaker 2: like I wish American Fiction could count because that would 90 00:03:45,600 --> 00:03:46,160 Speaker 2: be my favorite. 91 00:03:46,520 --> 00:03:48,760 Speaker 1: We'll see how it does it the Oscars next or 92 00:03:48,760 --> 00:03:49,200 Speaker 1: this weekend. 93 00:03:49,240 --> 00:03:51,200 Speaker 2: I guess, okay, that was my favorite. I don't really 94 00:03:51,240 --> 00:03:54,280 Speaker 2: have much else to say. It was a decent, entertaining movie. 95 00:03:54,440 --> 00:03:54,720 Speaker 3: See. 96 00:03:55,000 --> 00:03:57,480 Speaker 1: That's probably the movie I was most excited to do 97 00:03:57,560 --> 00:04:00,320 Speaker 1: a review one. And that was also the movie that 98 00:04:00,360 --> 00:04:02,080 Speaker 1: a lot of people watched and told me, like, you 99 00:04:02,160 --> 00:04:03,000 Speaker 1: got this one wrong. 100 00:04:03,040 --> 00:04:05,760 Speaker 2: Bro, I'm more passionate about my worst film of the month. 101 00:04:05,920 --> 00:04:08,080 Speaker 1: That's the other thing with streaming movies. They come out 102 00:04:08,120 --> 00:04:10,280 Speaker 1: and they have about a shelf life of two weeks, 103 00:04:10,400 --> 00:04:13,280 Speaker 1: maybe three if that. Because a movie is like number 104 00:04:13,320 --> 00:04:15,960 Speaker 1: one for a while, people watch it, there's a little 105 00:04:15,960 --> 00:04:17,479 Speaker 1: bit of buzz, a little bit of word amount, and 106 00:04:17,480 --> 00:04:21,039 Speaker 1: then they're just gone. For my best of the year 107 00:04:21,200 --> 00:04:23,200 Speaker 1: so far in the last two months, I'm going to 108 00:04:23,240 --> 00:04:25,200 Speaker 1: go with Sometimes I Think About Dying, which I gave 109 00:04:25,240 --> 00:04:27,360 Speaker 1: a four hine of five. It was a really good movie. 110 00:04:27,440 --> 00:04:29,800 Speaker 1: The more I've thought about that movie, the more I 111 00:04:29,960 --> 00:04:32,520 Speaker 1: was impressed by it, And out of all the movies 112 00:04:32,560 --> 00:04:34,599 Speaker 1: we've seen so far this year, it's the only movie 113 00:04:34,600 --> 00:04:37,720 Speaker 1: that's made me feel anything. And I really think it's 114 00:04:37,760 --> 00:04:41,279 Speaker 1: because the Daisy Ridley's amazing performance in that movie and 115 00:04:41,360 --> 00:04:44,599 Speaker 1: seeing a completely different side of her, and then also 116 00:04:44,640 --> 00:04:47,440 Speaker 1: that it was dealing with such a heavy subject, which 117 00:04:47,560 --> 00:04:50,040 Speaker 1: her character in that movie does what the title says. 118 00:04:50,080 --> 00:04:52,320 Speaker 1: She thinks about dying, but tries to have a normal life, 119 00:04:52,360 --> 00:04:54,880 Speaker 1: tries to make connections with people, but struggles to do 120 00:04:54,920 --> 00:04:57,480 Speaker 1: that because she's socially awkward. She's a really quiet person. 121 00:04:57,920 --> 00:05:00,720 Speaker 1: But in that kind of depressing prem it also has 122 00:05:00,800 --> 00:05:02,719 Speaker 1: a lot of fun moments that we saw it in 123 00:05:02,720 --> 00:05:04,800 Speaker 1: a sold out theater and there was a lot of 124 00:05:04,800 --> 00:05:06,320 Speaker 1: people laughing throughout the movie. 125 00:05:06,400 --> 00:05:09,359 Speaker 2: I was gonna say that socially awkward, did you relate 126 00:05:09,400 --> 00:05:09,640 Speaker 2: to that? 127 00:05:09,720 --> 00:05:13,440 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, that was like exactly. I've never seen socially 128 00:05:13,520 --> 00:05:16,680 Speaker 1: awkward portrayed so well in a movie that I was like, 129 00:05:17,360 --> 00:05:20,360 Speaker 1: that is me, Like, that is how the struggles I 130 00:05:20,400 --> 00:05:23,200 Speaker 1: have as a socially awkward person. I feel like you 131 00:05:23,240 --> 00:05:25,920 Speaker 1: either watched that movie and think I know somebody in 132 00:05:25,960 --> 00:05:27,200 Speaker 1: my life or that is me. 133 00:05:28,080 --> 00:05:30,360 Speaker 2: I was once told by a boss that I'm socially awkward, 134 00:05:30,600 --> 00:05:33,440 Speaker 2: and I was offended. Not all, I'm an introvert, but 135 00:05:33,640 --> 00:05:36,080 Speaker 2: I'll make friends in the post office. Yeah maybe FF's 136 00:05:36,080 --> 00:05:37,159 Speaker 2: with the trader Joe's cashier. 137 00:05:37,200 --> 00:05:40,479 Speaker 1: Before we even leave, you were like, you can go 138 00:05:40,520 --> 00:05:44,400 Speaker 1: and be very social and talk to people that you 139 00:05:44,480 --> 00:05:47,520 Speaker 1: don't know. And then yes, you have your recharge moments 140 00:05:47,640 --> 00:05:49,159 Speaker 1: where you're just like, I just want to go home 141 00:05:49,440 --> 00:05:51,760 Speaker 1: a weekend. We don't go out anywhere, but I feel 142 00:05:51,760 --> 00:05:54,599 Speaker 1: like you flourish in that social setting as well, unlike 143 00:05:54,640 --> 00:05:56,080 Speaker 1: me where I just like. 144 00:05:56,880 --> 00:05:58,680 Speaker 2: When she said that and I was like, I think 145 00:05:59,120 --> 00:06:01,800 Speaker 2: she wanted me to like flirt with someone, and I 146 00:06:01,920 --> 00:06:04,720 Speaker 2: was like, I just don't like this person. Like I 147 00:06:04,720 --> 00:06:06,760 Speaker 2: don't think I'm socially awkward. I'm just picky. 148 00:06:07,000 --> 00:06:08,000 Speaker 1: I don't you're not at all. 149 00:06:08,080 --> 00:06:09,640 Speaker 2: Okay, thank you for reassuring me. 150 00:06:09,760 --> 00:06:11,919 Speaker 1: Okay, So now we'll get into the movies. We'll be 151 00:06:11,960 --> 00:06:15,920 Speaker 1: more passionate about our worst movies so far in the 152 00:06:16,000 --> 00:06:19,520 Speaker 1: last sixty days. What is your worst, Madam web Yeah? 153 00:06:19,640 --> 00:06:20,640 Speaker 2: What was that movie? 154 00:06:20,920 --> 00:06:21,800 Speaker 1: Very pointless? 155 00:06:22,000 --> 00:06:25,880 Speaker 2: It was so dumb, Like I have so many questions. 156 00:06:26,160 --> 00:06:30,200 Speaker 1: Starting with keep it Spoiler Free. 157 00:06:29,080 --> 00:06:30,240 Speaker 2: WTFF was the plot? 158 00:06:30,480 --> 00:06:32,760 Speaker 1: The plot is weird because it felt like the same 159 00:06:32,800 --> 00:06:36,240 Speaker 1: thing over and over again. Of again, I won't give 160 00:06:36,279 --> 00:06:37,800 Speaker 1: too much away. Even if you go see it won't 161 00:06:37,839 --> 00:06:40,760 Speaker 1: really ruin much for you. But it's it's the coda 162 00:06:40,880 --> 00:06:44,800 Speaker 1: Johnson's character trying to figure things out and then leaving 163 00:06:44,839 --> 00:06:47,760 Speaker 1: these girls behind. So in the movie, she discovers that 164 00:06:47,800 --> 00:06:50,799 Speaker 1: she can see into the future, and then she's connected 165 00:06:50,800 --> 00:06:53,640 Speaker 1: with these three other girls, and this whole time, they're 166 00:06:53,680 --> 00:06:56,320 Speaker 1: just believing everything she says and going along with it, 167 00:06:56,440 --> 00:06:58,880 Speaker 1: not questioning anything. And she's like, all right, you guys, 168 00:06:58,880 --> 00:07:02,240 Speaker 1: wait here I'm gonna go research some stuff, leaves them there, 169 00:07:02,400 --> 00:07:04,440 Speaker 1: and then later she's like, Okay, I'm gonna go do this. 170 00:07:04,520 --> 00:07:06,160 Speaker 1: Now I'm gonna leave you here, and it just kept 171 00:07:06,240 --> 00:07:08,960 Speaker 1: happening over and over. It didn't feel like a superhero 172 00:07:09,000 --> 00:07:11,960 Speaker 1: movie to me because really nothing heroic happened in the movie. 173 00:07:12,080 --> 00:07:15,240 Speaker 1: There was no qualities of her character that had anything 174 00:07:15,360 --> 00:07:19,040 Speaker 1: superhero related. It was really just her running around the 175 00:07:19,080 --> 00:07:22,720 Speaker 1: city doing normal things. And then it had the worst 176 00:07:22,800 --> 00:07:26,400 Speaker 1: villain of all time, and just the movie that completely 177 00:07:26,480 --> 00:07:28,920 Speaker 1: was like, what are we watching the entire time? 178 00:07:29,240 --> 00:07:33,440 Speaker 2: Listen, no one has done having visions telling the future 179 00:07:33,640 --> 00:07:34,920 Speaker 2: quite like, that's so raven. 180 00:07:35,160 --> 00:07:36,720 Speaker 1: They should have just made it. That's so raven. 181 00:07:37,080 --> 00:07:40,360 Speaker 2: Superhero movie would one hundred percent have been better. That's 182 00:07:40,400 --> 00:07:41,960 Speaker 2: all I have to say about Madam Web. As my 183 00:07:42,040 --> 00:07:43,760 Speaker 2: little brother would say, it was trash. 184 00:07:43,800 --> 00:07:46,800 Speaker 1: And the thing I wondered about that movie is at 185 00:07:46,840 --> 00:07:49,800 Speaker 1: what point did they realize that we have something really 186 00:07:49,840 --> 00:07:52,240 Speaker 1: bad in her hands? And how are we gonna save 187 00:07:52,280 --> 00:07:53,840 Speaker 1: this and try to make a little bit of money 188 00:07:53,880 --> 00:07:54,320 Speaker 1: off of it? 189 00:07:54,400 --> 00:07:57,640 Speaker 2: I mean, Dakota Johnson's press tour was indicative of it, 190 00:07:57,640 --> 00:08:01,320 Speaker 2: because she was apathetic on inter i don't even know 191 00:08:01,360 --> 00:08:02,760 Speaker 2: that she knit what the movie was about it. For 192 00:08:02,840 --> 00:08:04,560 Speaker 2: being honest, she really didn't. 193 00:08:04,600 --> 00:08:06,680 Speaker 1: Because she said that I have no idea if this 194 00:08:06,720 --> 00:08:08,560 Speaker 1: movie is good or not, because I was just on 195 00:08:08,600 --> 00:08:11,280 Speaker 1: a blue screen the entire time. So it's almost what 196 00:08:11,320 --> 00:08:14,440 Speaker 1: I've been saying is that the issue with superhero movies 197 00:08:14,520 --> 00:08:18,200 Speaker 1: not really having that energy to them those big moments anymore, 198 00:08:18,280 --> 00:08:20,520 Speaker 1: is because the actors don't know what they are doing. 199 00:08:20,920 --> 00:08:23,400 Speaker 1: They don't know how to act in those situations. With Dakota, 200 00:08:23,480 --> 00:08:26,680 Speaker 1: Johnson has been not really in movies that cgi heavy. 201 00:08:27,080 --> 00:08:30,200 Speaker 1: She's used to interacting with characters in a setting that 202 00:08:30,280 --> 00:08:32,320 Speaker 1: she can. You know, you're there, you visualize it, you 203 00:08:32,360 --> 00:08:33,760 Speaker 1: see like, I'm in the stream right now, this is 204 00:08:33,800 --> 00:08:36,000 Speaker 1: how my character is going to be. But when you 205 00:08:36,040 --> 00:08:39,040 Speaker 1: take that away and you're just acting to people in 206 00:08:39,080 --> 00:08:41,679 Speaker 1: front of a blue screen, you're just getting all these 207 00:08:41,720 --> 00:08:43,680 Speaker 1: plot points thrown at you and you don't really have 208 00:08:43,760 --> 00:08:47,040 Speaker 1: a grasp on your character at all. It's just gonna 209 00:08:47,040 --> 00:08:49,400 Speaker 1: feel like a bunch of random things that you're gonna 210 00:08:49,520 --> 00:08:52,840 Speaker 1: hope in posts they cut it just right for it 211 00:08:52,880 --> 00:08:55,079 Speaker 1: to make sense or have any kind of and they 212 00:08:55,080 --> 00:08:59,360 Speaker 1: didn't gravity to your performance and they didn't. So it's 213 00:08:59,400 --> 00:09:02,760 Speaker 1: really comes down to how these movies are being made, 214 00:09:02,800 --> 00:09:06,200 Speaker 1: relying on so much special effects and you know, post 215 00:09:06,240 --> 00:09:08,720 Speaker 1: production that you kind of got to go back to 216 00:09:08,760 --> 00:09:11,560 Speaker 1: the basics of doing practical effects and doing things where 217 00:09:11,679 --> 00:09:14,240 Speaker 1: the actor feels and can react to things. 218 00:09:14,400 --> 00:09:16,640 Speaker 2: The ending scene was so bad. I audibly laughed. 219 00:09:17,000 --> 00:09:19,400 Speaker 1: It was very bad. One of the worst endings of 220 00:09:19,400 --> 00:09:19,880 Speaker 1: all time. 221 00:09:20,240 --> 00:09:23,040 Speaker 2: And I've been seeing so many tiktoks of people like 222 00:09:23,280 --> 00:09:25,560 Speaker 2: really enjoyed laughing out loud for two hours with a 223 00:09:25,600 --> 00:09:27,320 Speaker 2: sold out crowd at Madam Webb, and I'm like, I 224 00:09:27,400 --> 00:09:29,240 Speaker 2: love that it's brought us all together and that it 225 00:09:29,320 --> 00:09:31,480 Speaker 2: was so bad and that we're all just like sharing 226 00:09:31,640 --> 00:09:35,160 Speaker 2: that experience because bad movies and good movies are the same, 227 00:09:35,200 --> 00:09:38,559 Speaker 2: and that they're best shared in camaraderie. 228 00:09:38,600 --> 00:09:41,360 Speaker 1: I agree, But it has to be that level of 229 00:09:41,559 --> 00:09:44,960 Speaker 1: bad to be enjoyable. Again, yes, because what my worst 230 00:09:44,960 --> 00:09:47,200 Speaker 1: movie is wasn't that level of like it's so bad, 231 00:09:47,240 --> 00:09:49,959 Speaker 1: it's good. But with Madam Webb, it did achieve that 232 00:09:50,080 --> 00:09:52,800 Speaker 1: level that you could poke fun at it, you could 233 00:09:52,800 --> 00:09:55,360 Speaker 1: make jokes and find some enjoyment in it because it 234 00:09:55,480 --> 00:09:56,600 Speaker 1: was so off the wall. 235 00:09:56,760 --> 00:09:58,000 Speaker 2: All right, let's get into your worst. 236 00:09:58,120 --> 00:10:01,520 Speaker 1: My worst was Argyle so bad. It was also just 237 00:10:01,559 --> 00:10:03,400 Speaker 1: like two and a half hours, which at least Madam 238 00:10:03,400 --> 00:10:04,800 Speaker 1: Webb was a shorter run time. 239 00:10:04,960 --> 00:10:06,920 Speaker 2: I got sick of Argyle just from the seven thousand 240 00:10:06,960 --> 00:10:07,920 Speaker 2: previews we saw of it. 241 00:10:08,240 --> 00:10:10,520 Speaker 1: Yes, they hyped that movie up so much, which is 242 00:10:10,520 --> 00:10:13,480 Speaker 1: also an indicator if a movie has a preview shown 243 00:10:13,520 --> 00:10:15,559 Speaker 1: at every single thing. Granted, we do go to the 244 00:10:15,600 --> 00:10:18,200 Speaker 1: movies a lot, but when they spend so much money 245 00:10:18,240 --> 00:10:22,000 Speaker 1: on advertising like that, you kind of think, oh, man, 246 00:10:22,080 --> 00:10:24,080 Speaker 1: I don't think the product here is actually worth it, 247 00:10:24,120 --> 00:10:26,160 Speaker 1: and they're trying to make it up of just everybody 248 00:10:26,200 --> 00:10:28,400 Speaker 1: knowing that this movie is coming out and hopefully we 249 00:10:28,480 --> 00:10:31,520 Speaker 1: make some money back now. After I did that review, 250 00:10:32,360 --> 00:10:36,360 Speaker 1: it was kind of the opposite effect of when I 251 00:10:36,400 --> 00:10:38,480 Speaker 1: reviewed Self Reliance is a lot of people said that 252 00:10:38,559 --> 00:10:40,400 Speaker 1: I didn't get Argyle. 253 00:10:40,600 --> 00:10:41,440 Speaker 2: There was nothing to get. 254 00:10:41,640 --> 00:10:45,319 Speaker 1: I don't think so now the movie I understood what 255 00:10:45,360 --> 00:10:46,920 Speaker 1: it was trying to do. It was trying to be 256 00:10:46,960 --> 00:10:50,800 Speaker 1: this campy take on a spy thriller and be quirky. 257 00:10:50,480 --> 00:10:52,439 Speaker 2: And a lot within a plot within a plot. 258 00:10:52,320 --> 00:10:54,960 Speaker 1: Too many levels of it for it to really resonate. 259 00:10:55,080 --> 00:10:58,480 Speaker 2: And as someone who loves books and thrillers. I don't 260 00:10:58,480 --> 00:11:00,760 Speaker 2: even want to read the Argyle book. I don't think 261 00:11:00,800 --> 00:11:02,600 Speaker 2: there was anything to get. I'm gonna agree with you 262 00:11:02,640 --> 00:11:05,800 Speaker 2: on that. It wasn't even like campy. It was just dumb. 263 00:11:06,559 --> 00:11:08,480 Speaker 2: It was a waste of money, Like you could tell 264 00:11:08,480 --> 00:11:11,680 Speaker 2: they spent so much like the Apple film quality is great, 265 00:11:11,840 --> 00:11:13,960 Speaker 2: like colors are just like vibrant. 266 00:11:14,120 --> 00:11:19,040 Speaker 1: A lot of action sequences dumb ones. They weren't even good. No, 267 00:11:19,200 --> 00:11:21,160 Speaker 1: two of the worst scenes I've ever seen in a 268 00:11:21,200 --> 00:11:23,120 Speaker 1: movie took place in our gyle. 269 00:11:23,600 --> 00:11:25,040 Speaker 2: Have we said what those are? No? 270 00:11:25,360 --> 00:11:28,439 Speaker 1: It's I mean, you kind of can, but it's too spoilery. 271 00:11:28,960 --> 00:11:30,400 Speaker 1: But it's just so I want to talk about one 272 00:11:30,400 --> 00:11:32,920 Speaker 1: of them. It's just so I keep calling movies dumb, 273 00:11:32,960 --> 00:11:36,160 Speaker 1: but it is so pointless, and it's trying to be 274 00:11:36,280 --> 00:11:38,920 Speaker 1: so over the top that it's like, ah, this is fun. 275 00:11:38,960 --> 00:11:41,600 Speaker 1: It's supposed to be that ridiculous. But I felt like 276 00:11:41,640 --> 00:11:44,200 Speaker 1: the movie had a level of seriousness to it that 277 00:11:44,280 --> 00:11:46,160 Speaker 1: you can't really do both at the same time. You 278 00:11:46,200 --> 00:11:49,040 Speaker 1: can't try to be serious telling the story and then 279 00:11:49,080 --> 00:11:53,160 Speaker 1: also have these supernatural elements that are so over the top. 280 00:11:53,880 --> 00:11:56,160 Speaker 1: It just doesn't feel like it takes place in any 281 00:11:56,160 --> 00:11:59,000 Speaker 1: one setting, so I wanted to leave that movie. 282 00:11:59,080 --> 00:12:00,679 Speaker 2: We did consider it, and we were just kind of, 283 00:12:00,880 --> 00:12:01,920 Speaker 2: h I guess we'll stick it out. 284 00:12:02,000 --> 00:12:03,520 Speaker 1: Yeah. It got to a point of like, all right, 285 00:12:03,840 --> 00:12:05,600 Speaker 1: I just want to see how this is going to end. 286 00:12:05,760 --> 00:12:07,600 Speaker 1: And by the time it ended, I was like, yep, 287 00:12:07,679 --> 00:12:09,600 Speaker 1: I was right waste the time. That was our best 288 00:12:09,640 --> 00:12:12,680 Speaker 1: and worst. I did do some movie rewatches in the 289 00:12:12,760 --> 00:12:15,040 Speaker 1: last month, and we'll go through some of these. One 290 00:12:15,040 --> 00:12:17,959 Speaker 1: of them we did together, the Titanic. Yes, maybe a 291 00:12:17,960 --> 00:12:20,080 Speaker 1: couple of them. We did together. Titanic, which I don't 292 00:12:20,080 --> 00:12:22,280 Speaker 1: even know how we got started on wanting to watch. 293 00:12:22,280 --> 00:12:23,920 Speaker 1: I think we were just looking for a disaster movie, 294 00:12:23,920 --> 00:12:26,000 Speaker 1: and technically Titanic is a disaster movie. 295 00:12:26,080 --> 00:12:28,599 Speaker 2: Yes, we were looking for something to watch. Really played scrabble. 296 00:12:28,480 --> 00:12:31,679 Speaker 1: And we watched Titanic, And first of all, I kind 297 00:12:31,679 --> 00:12:33,800 Speaker 1: of forgot about the opening sequence. I think we both 298 00:12:33,920 --> 00:12:37,000 Speaker 1: kind of did. I remember watching it as a kid 299 00:12:37,080 --> 00:12:39,880 Speaker 1: and just thinking that was like one quick scene of 300 00:12:39,920 --> 00:12:43,520 Speaker 1: them getting into the story of Titanic, But it really 301 00:12:43,720 --> 00:12:46,240 Speaker 1: was a It's a big significant part of the movie, 302 00:12:46,280 --> 00:12:50,320 Speaker 1: probably like twenty thirty minutes of them finding her and 303 00:12:50,400 --> 00:12:53,000 Speaker 1: all of the research guys trying to find and do 304 00:12:53,080 --> 00:12:55,360 Speaker 1: all the backstory of the Titanic. I thought that was 305 00:12:55,400 --> 00:12:58,000 Speaker 1: fascinating because I totally forgot about that part of the movie. 306 00:12:58,040 --> 00:12:59,559 Speaker 2: I would like to say kids these days do not 307 00:12:59,640 --> 00:13:01,679 Speaker 2: know the show having to change out the VHS. 308 00:13:01,960 --> 00:13:03,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, it is a long movie. 309 00:13:03,640 --> 00:13:05,640 Speaker 2: It is a long movie because what VHS could only 310 00:13:05,640 --> 00:13:07,640 Speaker 2: hold like two hours, so to change. 311 00:13:07,400 --> 00:13:10,000 Speaker 1: It out a double VHS to get the three that 312 00:13:10,040 --> 00:13:10,880 Speaker 1: was luxury. 313 00:13:11,040 --> 00:13:13,880 Speaker 2: That was awesome when you owned that double VHS. 314 00:13:13,600 --> 00:13:18,040 Speaker 1: But rewatching it, it just reminded me how many iconic 315 00:13:18,120 --> 00:13:21,839 Speaker 1: moments are in Titanic, as far as like all the meme, 316 00:13:22,000 --> 00:13:24,439 Speaker 1: like it's been eighty four years, like all those little 317 00:13:24,440 --> 00:13:24,920 Speaker 1: things we. 318 00:13:24,920 --> 00:13:25,560 Speaker 2: Said it together. 319 00:13:25,840 --> 00:13:27,920 Speaker 1: There are so many things in that movie that are 320 00:13:28,200 --> 00:13:32,280 Speaker 1: iconic that it's crazy to think a movie could even 321 00:13:32,679 --> 00:13:33,440 Speaker 1: replicate that. 322 00:13:33,520 --> 00:13:36,600 Speaker 2: Again, oh it couldn't. I also think it was such 323 00:13:36,600 --> 00:13:41,560 Speaker 2: a cinematic feat of like James Cameron to do something 324 00:13:41,600 --> 00:13:44,280 Speaker 2: on that scale, Like I mean even just watching the 325 00:13:44,320 --> 00:13:47,079 Speaker 2: ship sink little by little and I feel like it 326 00:13:47,160 --> 00:13:49,719 Speaker 2: still holds up. Like some movies you watch and they 327 00:13:49,800 --> 00:13:52,040 Speaker 2: like look old, I don't feel like The Titanic's ever 328 00:13:52,080 --> 00:13:52,720 Speaker 2: gonna look old. 329 00:13:53,160 --> 00:13:55,280 Speaker 1: Because it has a lot of practical things in it. 330 00:13:55,400 --> 00:13:58,640 Speaker 1: A lot of it is them actually building sets using 331 00:13:58,760 --> 00:14:02,200 Speaker 1: regal water. They do use some trickery where they actually 332 00:14:02,240 --> 00:14:04,400 Speaker 1: have like a small model of it and they make 333 00:14:04,440 --> 00:14:06,079 Speaker 1: it look bigger. So some of the scenes where like 334 00:14:06,080 --> 00:14:09,199 Speaker 1: the water is crashing through, yeah it's a small scale, 335 00:14:09,480 --> 00:14:13,640 Speaker 1: but a lot of it is actual sets, so that 336 00:14:13,760 --> 00:14:16,439 Speaker 1: stuff ages so much better. That's why I always prefer 337 00:14:16,520 --> 00:14:20,480 Speaker 1: movies to use practical effects. And I feel like a 338 00:14:20,520 --> 00:14:23,480 Speaker 1: lot of filmmakers now think, oh, we have all this technology, 339 00:14:24,040 --> 00:14:26,640 Speaker 1: we should probably use visual effects to make it look better. 340 00:14:27,280 --> 00:14:27,920 Speaker 2: They don't hold up. 341 00:14:27,960 --> 00:14:30,000 Speaker 1: They don't hold up, and I think that is a 342 00:14:30,040 --> 00:14:33,080 Speaker 1: great reason why movies like that, even movies like Star 343 00:14:33,120 --> 00:14:36,600 Speaker 1: Wars that use practical effects have a more timeless feel. 344 00:14:37,000 --> 00:14:40,360 Speaker 1: There are moments in Titanic, I think particular, when like 345 00:14:41,200 --> 00:14:43,760 Speaker 1: the smokestack things are falling down, like some of that 346 00:14:43,840 --> 00:14:47,360 Speaker 1: stuff is ninety cgi, but it doesn't take you that 347 00:14:47,440 --> 00:14:49,640 Speaker 1: much out of it because everything else that's so big 348 00:14:49,680 --> 00:14:54,600 Speaker 1: and elaborate is actual practical effects. I even saw the 349 00:14:54,720 --> 00:14:56,920 Speaker 1: actor who's gonna play the thing in the new movie 350 00:14:57,000 --> 00:14:59,720 Speaker 1: saying that, oh, the new thing costing will probably be 351 00:14:59,760 --> 00:15:04,960 Speaker 1: sy effects because practical effects are so outdated. And I 352 00:15:05,040 --> 00:15:07,040 Speaker 1: just felt like that what he said didn't hit well 353 00:15:07,080 --> 00:15:10,320 Speaker 1: with me because I don't think practical effects are outdated. 354 00:15:10,360 --> 00:15:11,600 Speaker 1: It's almost harder to do. 355 00:15:11,960 --> 00:15:14,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, I feel like it takes a special team to 356 00:15:14,680 --> 00:15:17,360 Speaker 2: be able to put together better practical effects. 357 00:15:17,440 --> 00:15:19,360 Speaker 1: I think, Yeah, I think that is much more talent 358 00:15:19,480 --> 00:15:22,080 Speaker 1: than Okay, we'll just put you in a suit and 359 00:15:22,120 --> 00:15:23,720 Speaker 1: put some tracking on you, and then we'll put it 360 00:15:23,760 --> 00:15:26,240 Speaker 1: all on special effects, and then if it looks bad, 361 00:15:26,280 --> 00:15:27,320 Speaker 1: everybody's gonna hate it. 362 00:15:27,640 --> 00:15:31,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, but I'll have to say Titanic still a great film, still. 363 00:15:31,600 --> 00:15:35,200 Speaker 1: A great movie. The other movie, we don't. I feel 364 00:15:35,240 --> 00:15:37,040 Speaker 1: like we had watched it at some point, but then 365 00:15:37,120 --> 00:15:39,920 Speaker 1: I don't think we did. We watched Geostorm because we 366 00:15:39,920 --> 00:15:42,880 Speaker 1: were itching for a yet again a disaster movie. We 367 00:15:42,880 --> 00:15:46,080 Speaker 1: were thinking of one on Hulu called what super Cellic? 368 00:15:46,680 --> 00:15:49,240 Speaker 1: It looks like a dollar bin movie, that one. 369 00:15:49,360 --> 00:15:52,080 Speaker 2: The special effects are clearly special effects. 370 00:15:52,280 --> 00:15:56,040 Speaker 1: But I think even the worst disaster movie I still 371 00:15:56,040 --> 00:15:57,040 Speaker 1: find enjoyment in. 372 00:15:57,240 --> 00:15:59,600 Speaker 2: Oh I've watched sci fi disaster movies that are made 373 00:15:59,600 --> 00:16:03,240 Speaker 2: on probably a five dollars budget. I love I love 374 00:16:03,240 --> 00:16:05,520 Speaker 2: a weather related disaster film. 375 00:16:05,480 --> 00:16:09,240 Speaker 1: And Geostorm has basically all the cliche points of a 376 00:16:09,280 --> 00:16:12,240 Speaker 1: standard hit them all disaster movie. It hits them all, 377 00:16:12,480 --> 00:16:13,800 Speaker 1: and by the end of it, I was like, oh, 378 00:16:13,840 --> 00:16:15,440 Speaker 1: that actually wasn't as bad as I thought it was 379 00:16:15,480 --> 00:16:17,680 Speaker 1: going to be. Because we ended up watching the movie 380 00:16:17,720 --> 00:16:21,720 Speaker 1: we didn't think about exactly. But I don't really recommend 381 00:16:21,800 --> 00:16:24,040 Speaker 1: that one. But if you're like us and you're itching 382 00:16:24,200 --> 00:16:25,800 Speaker 1: for a disaster movie. 383 00:16:25,760 --> 00:16:27,960 Speaker 2: Here's the thing. Number of the good ones are free 384 00:16:27,960 --> 00:16:31,200 Speaker 2: and streaming. I wanted the day after Tomorrow wasn't available. 385 00:16:31,240 --> 00:16:32,880 Speaker 2: We need to just buy it. We do watch the movie, 386 00:16:33,000 --> 00:16:33,280 Speaker 2: we do. 387 00:16:33,320 --> 00:16:35,360 Speaker 1: Want it a lot. The other movie I watched that 388 00:16:35,440 --> 00:16:37,600 Speaker 1: I was a little bit embarrassed to buy because I 389 00:16:37,680 --> 00:16:40,440 Speaker 1: rented it was the Pokemon first movie from the nineties. 390 00:16:40,560 --> 00:16:42,520 Speaker 2: Can we tell people about this? So I'm going through 391 00:16:42,520 --> 00:16:45,960 Speaker 2: a bank account and I see an Apple charge and 392 00:16:46,000 --> 00:16:48,640 Speaker 2: we rented Anatomy of a Fall on Apple but it 393 00:16:48,720 --> 00:16:50,440 Speaker 2: was like six dollars. I was like, we have a 394 00:16:50,480 --> 00:16:52,320 Speaker 2: ten ninety three charge, just trying to figure out what 395 00:16:52,400 --> 00:16:54,440 Speaker 2: it was. You were like, huh, sure it was an 396 00:16:54,440 --> 00:16:57,240 Speaker 2: Anatomy of a Fall. I'm like, no, it wasn't really, 397 00:16:57,520 --> 00:17:01,240 Speaker 2: I don't know. Five minutes later, you really the Pokemon movie, 398 00:17:01,280 --> 00:17:02,760 Speaker 2: and I was like, why didn't you just tell me? 399 00:17:03,200 --> 00:17:05,359 Speaker 1: I haven't seen that movie since I was a kid, 400 00:17:05,840 --> 00:17:10,440 Speaker 1: and I've been getting more back into Pokemon lately. Pokemon 401 00:17:10,520 --> 00:17:12,760 Speaker 1: Day was just this past week, and I wanted to 402 00:17:12,960 --> 00:17:14,679 Speaker 1: rewatch it, and there's nowhere you can scream it. 403 00:17:14,720 --> 00:17:16,320 Speaker 2: But why were you embarrassed to tell me? I went 404 00:17:16,640 --> 00:17:18,760 Speaker 2: to two stores with you last week to find the 405 00:17:18,840 --> 00:17:22,920 Speaker 2: Pokemon magazine, and I drove thirty minutes each way yesterday 406 00:17:23,040 --> 00:17:25,639 Speaker 2: to buy you Pokemon Funko pops, Like, I don't know 407 00:17:25,680 --> 00:17:27,480 Speaker 2: why you were ashamed to tell me you rented the 408 00:17:27,480 --> 00:17:28,240 Speaker 2: Pokemon movie. 409 00:17:28,359 --> 00:17:30,320 Speaker 1: I don't know. I guess it's just that I like, 410 00:17:30,359 --> 00:17:32,320 Speaker 1: of all the movies to pay for, it was that one, 411 00:17:32,520 --> 00:17:34,080 Speaker 1: and it was like four bucks to rent and the 412 00:17:34,080 --> 00:17:36,679 Speaker 1: movie is only like an hour and fifteen minutes. And 413 00:17:36,720 --> 00:17:37,280 Speaker 1: then I don't know. 414 00:17:37,359 --> 00:17:41,360 Speaker 2: I just I felt I don't judge you for your hobbies. 415 00:17:41,440 --> 00:17:44,520 Speaker 1: I know, I just feel childish watching it. Sometimes. 416 00:17:44,640 --> 00:17:47,479 Speaker 2: I literally get excited when they put a Mary kay 417 00:17:47,480 --> 00:17:48,640 Speaker 2: in Ashley film on Hulu. 418 00:17:48,840 --> 00:17:50,440 Speaker 1: Those are good and those go way back. 419 00:17:51,280 --> 00:17:54,680 Speaker 2: I watched Passport to Paris. Our lips are sealed. Nothing 420 00:17:54,680 --> 00:17:56,000 Speaker 2: to be embarrassed about nostalgia. 421 00:17:56,520 --> 00:17:59,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm like heavily searching out nostalgia right now. 422 00:17:59,720 --> 00:18:01,720 Speaker 2: We see kids movies in theaters. We have tickets to 423 00:18:01,760 --> 00:18:03,560 Speaker 2: Kung Fu Pana before next weekend. 424 00:18:03,680 --> 00:18:06,760 Speaker 1: Man, wait for that one. But Rewatching it as an 425 00:18:06,800 --> 00:18:09,240 Speaker 1: adult for the first time since I was a kid 426 00:18:09,440 --> 00:18:12,720 Speaker 1: was interesting because I remember that movie feeling so big 427 00:18:13,040 --> 00:18:15,960 Speaker 1: and I just remember being so excited to see it 428 00:18:16,000 --> 00:18:17,800 Speaker 1: in theaters. I went with my brother, I got the 429 00:18:17,840 --> 00:18:22,560 Speaker 1: card that came with your ticket, and then rewatching it, 430 00:18:22,600 --> 00:18:24,520 Speaker 1: I was like, oh, this doesn't look as good as 431 00:18:24,560 --> 00:18:29,200 Speaker 1: I remember. It doesn't really hold up as well because 432 00:18:29,240 --> 00:18:32,720 Speaker 1: it feels a little empty to me, which I was like, oh, man, 433 00:18:32,760 --> 00:18:35,199 Speaker 1: I remember this movie being like NonStop action and like 434 00:18:35,280 --> 00:18:36,000 Speaker 1: fast paced. 435 00:18:36,119 --> 00:18:37,480 Speaker 2: Well, how old were you when you saw it. 436 00:18:37,760 --> 00:18:41,160 Speaker 1: I was probably eight or nine years old exactly. It's 437 00:18:41,200 --> 00:18:44,880 Speaker 1: just weird because at that time I was like, oh, man, 438 00:18:44,920 --> 00:18:48,280 Speaker 1: a Pokemon movie. To see him more than twenty minutes 439 00:18:48,320 --> 00:18:49,720 Speaker 1: at a time, which I was so used to watching 440 00:18:49,720 --> 00:18:52,440 Speaker 1: the TV show. It felt so big and longer to 441 00:18:52,520 --> 00:18:55,520 Speaker 1: me that watching it now was like, oh, not a 442 00:18:55,560 --> 00:18:59,239 Speaker 1: whole lot happened in this movie. And I also went 443 00:18:59,320 --> 00:19:01,800 Speaker 1: and saw like the critic reviews when that movie came out, 444 00:19:01,880 --> 00:19:05,159 Speaker 1: and they were like ripping that movie to shreds, which 445 00:19:05,240 --> 00:19:07,919 Speaker 1: it made me think about, like everybody who was an 446 00:19:07,920 --> 00:19:11,080 Speaker 1: adult film critic now probably didn't get it, Like they 447 00:19:11,080 --> 00:19:13,080 Speaker 1: probably hated the fact that a movie like that was 448 00:19:13,119 --> 00:19:16,200 Speaker 1: making so much money. And when all these other movies 449 00:19:16,240 --> 00:19:19,560 Speaker 1: are coming out that are more like film darlings, and 450 00:19:19,600 --> 00:19:21,560 Speaker 1: then you have all these kids going to watch Pokemon. 451 00:19:22,480 --> 00:19:26,280 Speaker 1: I just love now that those kids are my age 452 00:19:26,320 --> 00:19:28,640 Speaker 1: and doing things like this now. And when a Pokemon 453 00:19:28,640 --> 00:19:31,480 Speaker 1: movie comes out now, it'll probably get good reviews, but 454 00:19:31,520 --> 00:19:33,199 Speaker 1: because it will be all those people who watch it 455 00:19:33,200 --> 00:19:36,120 Speaker 1: as a kid and can appreciate it and be able 456 00:19:36,160 --> 00:19:38,199 Speaker 1: to talk about it from a way of understanding it. 457 00:19:38,320 --> 00:19:39,960 Speaker 1: Back then, it was just like this is dumb, this 458 00:19:40,040 --> 00:19:41,480 Speaker 1: is for kids, this is garbage. 459 00:19:41,560 --> 00:19:44,639 Speaker 2: I also feel like we're in an era of reclaiming 460 00:19:45,000 --> 00:19:47,520 Speaker 2: our hobbies and like the things that make us happy. 461 00:19:48,280 --> 00:19:50,440 Speaker 2: And I feel like it's cool to like own your 462 00:19:51,200 --> 00:19:54,720 Speaker 2: hobbies and be proud of it. And if you enjoy Pokemon, great, 463 00:19:54,880 --> 00:19:57,919 Speaker 2: like I don't care. I enjoy watching grown women on 464 00:19:57,960 --> 00:20:00,560 Speaker 2: the Housewives yell at each other every week to each 465 00:20:00,600 --> 00:20:01,680 Speaker 2: throne that was the. 466 00:20:01,640 --> 00:20:04,480 Speaker 1: Other point I made of I was thinking of how 467 00:20:04,560 --> 00:20:07,000 Speaker 1: I feel kind of not ashamed of it. I just 468 00:20:07,000 --> 00:20:09,240 Speaker 1: feel like it's a nerdy thing to like Pokemon, even 469 00:20:09,280 --> 00:20:11,240 Speaker 1: though a lot of adults like it. Now being a 470 00:20:11,240 --> 00:20:13,600 Speaker 1: nerd is cool. Yeah. I think the person who has 471 00:20:13,640 --> 00:20:16,399 Speaker 1: made me be more comfortable with it recently was Miles 472 00:20:16,440 --> 00:20:20,080 Speaker 1: Turner when whenever he's the NBA player, plays for the Pacers, 473 00:20:20,080 --> 00:20:23,400 Speaker 1: and he was talking about playing with legos, building legos. 474 00:20:23,720 --> 00:20:26,480 Speaker 1: So I was gonna say, and for somebody like that, 475 00:20:26,600 --> 00:20:28,360 Speaker 1: who people. 476 00:20:28,440 --> 00:20:30,000 Speaker 2: I want his budget to buy legos? 477 00:20:30,119 --> 00:20:32,479 Speaker 1: I know who people see like, Oh, he's an athlete, 478 00:20:32,520 --> 00:20:34,919 Speaker 1: he must be cool doing all these awesome things. And 479 00:20:34,960 --> 00:20:39,440 Speaker 1: he's building legos, watching Pokemon. He has a Miles Morales 480 00:20:39,480 --> 00:20:42,119 Speaker 1: tattoo on his leg. And just to see somebody like 481 00:20:42,240 --> 00:20:45,240 Speaker 1: that be into nerdy things and kind of be a 482 00:20:45,240 --> 00:20:48,040 Speaker 1: spokesperson for it kind of made me feel a little 483 00:20:48,080 --> 00:20:49,840 Speaker 1: bit more like I should embrace it more. 484 00:20:50,280 --> 00:20:52,760 Speaker 2: I think we're also ingrained still, like that train of 485 00:20:52,800 --> 00:20:55,600 Speaker 2: thought in high school that like nerd is a bad thing, 486 00:20:56,119 --> 00:20:59,200 Speaker 2: Like it's like a pejorative term when you get to college. 487 00:20:59,480 --> 00:21:01,160 Speaker 2: Was being ad was cool in college? 488 00:21:01,240 --> 00:21:03,480 Speaker 1: Yeah? I mean being yeah, I do feel like I. 489 00:21:03,440 --> 00:21:05,439 Speaker 2: Was a nerd. I'm still a nerd. I read books. 490 00:21:05,560 --> 00:21:08,239 Speaker 2: I read science books for fun, like I sit at 491 00:21:08,240 --> 00:21:10,960 Speaker 2: my desk and I have several books about like genes 492 00:21:11,040 --> 00:21:15,160 Speaker 2: and like virology. I think learning and like having nerdy 493 00:21:15,200 --> 00:21:18,640 Speaker 2: hobbies at school. I hope our future kids have nerdy hobbies. 494 00:21:18,800 --> 00:21:22,280 Speaker 1: Because I was also thinking of in terms of other 495 00:21:22,359 --> 00:21:24,240 Speaker 1: things I was a fan of as a kid that 496 00:21:24,280 --> 00:21:26,000 Speaker 1: I'm still a fan of now that I love just 497 00:21:26,040 --> 00:21:28,960 Speaker 1: as much. It's like it's more socially acceptable for me 498 00:21:29,040 --> 00:21:31,000 Speaker 1: to be as big of a Dallas Cowboys fan as 499 00:21:31,040 --> 00:21:32,960 Speaker 1: I am. The reason I'm a big fan is because 500 00:21:33,000 --> 00:21:36,040 Speaker 1: I grew up in the Dallas area in the nineties. 501 00:21:36,119 --> 00:21:38,480 Speaker 1: I was surrounded by it. Like my earliest memories of 502 00:21:38,520 --> 00:21:41,640 Speaker 1: watching sports on TV were the Dallas Cowboys. I don't 503 00:21:41,680 --> 00:21:44,600 Speaker 1: think in any way that's different of me liking them 504 00:21:44,640 --> 00:21:46,560 Speaker 1: now for the sake of it reminding me of my 505 00:21:46,640 --> 00:21:49,520 Speaker 1: childhood than liking Pokemon now or being such a big 506 00:21:49,560 --> 00:21:52,280 Speaker 1: Spider Man fan. It's really all the same. It's just 507 00:21:52,359 --> 00:21:57,640 Speaker 1: that sports is seen as cooler, more manly, more ah. Yes, 508 00:21:57,720 --> 00:22:01,440 Speaker 1: sports are more acceptable and if you collect Pokemon cards 509 00:22:01,440 --> 00:22:03,680 Speaker 1: you're weird and a nerd. It's really the same thing. 510 00:22:04,800 --> 00:22:09,560 Speaker 1: Wearing an adult man wearing an NFL jersey is in 511 00:22:09,600 --> 00:22:12,160 Speaker 1: my eyes, just as nerdy as a grown man wearing 512 00:22:12,160 --> 00:22:14,879 Speaker 1: a Pokemon T shirt. I mean, and both are acceptable. 513 00:22:14,960 --> 00:22:15,960 Speaker 1: Do what you want, you. 514 00:22:15,920 --> 00:22:18,359 Speaker 2: Know my thoughts on fantasy football, It's exactly It's a 515 00:22:18,400 --> 00:22:21,040 Speaker 2: grown man drafting a made up team. 516 00:22:21,160 --> 00:22:23,960 Speaker 1: It is no different than playing World of Warcraft. 517 00:22:24,640 --> 00:22:26,560 Speaker 2: I've I don't think I've talked about it on hare, 518 00:22:26,880 --> 00:22:30,240 Speaker 2: but my favorite podcaster besides you, of course, Kate Kennedy 519 00:22:30,359 --> 00:22:32,840 Speaker 2: of b there in five, just wrote a book about 520 00:22:32,840 --> 00:22:37,119 Speaker 2: like being a fangirl and loving pop culture and loving 521 00:22:37,760 --> 00:22:41,040 Speaker 2: makeup and like just all the things that enjoy what 522 00:22:41,080 --> 00:22:44,360 Speaker 2: you want to enjoy. If it's something nostalgic, great, if 523 00:22:44,400 --> 00:22:48,359 Speaker 2: it's something nerdy cool, if it's sports, like I'm just 524 00:22:48,359 --> 00:22:50,800 Speaker 2: like life is hard enough, like it is hard to 525 00:22:50,960 --> 00:22:53,320 Speaker 2: just be a human, and if you have something that 526 00:22:53,359 --> 00:22:55,160 Speaker 2: brings you joy, go for it. 527 00:22:55,400 --> 00:22:57,639 Speaker 1: I think this has inspired me to go back and 528 00:22:57,640 --> 00:23:01,000 Speaker 1: revisit more movies from my childhood that I haven't seen 529 00:23:01,040 --> 00:23:03,080 Speaker 1: in a long time and not be afraid to watch them. 530 00:23:03,400 --> 00:23:05,280 Speaker 1: I think the one I watched before this was probably 531 00:23:05,400 --> 00:23:08,000 Speaker 1: Max Keeble's Big Move. You did watch that, which was 532 00:23:08,000 --> 00:23:10,200 Speaker 1: another one that didn't really hold up as much because 533 00:23:10,200 --> 00:23:11,560 Speaker 1: I love that movie as a kid. 534 00:23:11,880 --> 00:23:12,800 Speaker 2: None of those hold up. 535 00:23:12,920 --> 00:23:15,160 Speaker 1: It was one of the first movies that I got 536 00:23:15,200 --> 00:23:17,680 Speaker 1: on DVD because I got it at the flea market 537 00:23:17,920 --> 00:23:19,480 Speaker 1: and I was like, ah, I want to go because 538 00:23:19,480 --> 00:23:20,879 Speaker 1: I didn't see it in theaters, but I saw it 539 00:23:20,920 --> 00:23:23,439 Speaker 1: on DVD and I watched it NonStop because it was 540 00:23:23,440 --> 00:23:26,160 Speaker 1: one of the only DVDs we had, and then rewatching 541 00:23:26,240 --> 00:23:29,159 Speaker 1: it on Disney Plus, I was like, not as funny, 542 00:23:29,800 --> 00:23:32,360 Speaker 1: not as good, but yeah, let this. 543 00:23:33,040 --> 00:23:35,760 Speaker 2: Let us be a reminder if you have any nerdy 544 00:23:35,800 --> 00:23:37,720 Speaker 2: hobbies that you're like, it's not cool to like that. 545 00:23:38,119 --> 00:23:40,919 Speaker 2: So what like, if there is something that brings you 546 00:23:41,000 --> 00:23:44,800 Speaker 2: joy in the evenings or the weekends after working and 547 00:23:44,920 --> 00:23:48,000 Speaker 2: just like paying bills and trying to be a functioning 548 00:23:48,240 --> 00:23:51,280 Speaker 2: member of society, do it. I don't care what it is. 549 00:23:51,320 --> 00:23:54,000 Speaker 2: If you want to make those like little things that 550 00:23:54,040 --> 00:23:56,840 Speaker 2: you put beads together and like iron them together, if 551 00:23:56,880 --> 00:23:59,040 Speaker 2: you want to paint, if you want to do puzzles 552 00:23:59,040 --> 00:24:03,160 Speaker 2: all the time, like cool Sudoku, crosswords, read a book, 553 00:24:03,520 --> 00:24:06,320 Speaker 2: bird watch, I don't know. Just if there is something 554 00:24:06,400 --> 00:24:08,399 Speaker 2: that like brings you joy in this life. 555 00:24:08,280 --> 00:24:09,760 Speaker 1: As long as you're not hurting other people. 556 00:24:10,040 --> 00:24:11,240 Speaker 2: Yes, do it. 557 00:24:11,320 --> 00:24:13,639 Speaker 1: I don't hunt for humans for sport. Probably not a 558 00:24:13,640 --> 00:24:14,800 Speaker 1: good idea, thank you. 559 00:24:14,800 --> 00:24:16,600 Speaker 2: I don't think anyone really thought that was their hobby. 560 00:24:16,920 --> 00:24:18,480 Speaker 1: Somebody may have been like I was on my I was. 561 00:24:18,480 --> 00:24:19,760 Speaker 2: Really on my soapbox. Coming there. 562 00:24:19,760 --> 00:24:22,480 Speaker 1: I'm going to follow my dream of hunting the human race. 563 00:24:23,280 --> 00:24:26,399 Speaker 2: Okay, legal dreams, Legal dreams, al right. 564 00:24:26,600 --> 00:24:29,320 Speaker 1: We always wrap it up with our honorable mentions with 565 00:24:29,400 --> 00:24:32,600 Speaker 1: TV shows and a book and a book. I think collectively, 566 00:24:32,840 --> 00:24:36,480 Speaker 1: the show we both loved the most was one two 567 00:24:36,640 --> 00:24:40,439 Speaker 1: three Smith. I love Donald Glover, probably have a bit 568 00:24:40,480 --> 00:24:44,239 Speaker 1: of a man crush on him. Probably he is my 569 00:24:44,640 --> 00:24:49,359 Speaker 1: music comedy fashion like he is. He's just he is 570 00:24:49,400 --> 00:24:51,679 Speaker 1: my muse, so I'll watch anything he is in. And 571 00:24:51,760 --> 00:24:53,240 Speaker 1: when it was first announced that he was going to 572 00:24:53,280 --> 00:24:55,280 Speaker 1: be a part of a Mister and Missus Smith series, 573 00:24:55,840 --> 00:24:58,000 Speaker 1: I was like, that doesn't sound good to me. But 574 00:24:58,119 --> 00:25:01,320 Speaker 1: after watching the first episode, completely hooked, it was so good. 575 00:25:01,480 --> 00:25:02,120 Speaker 2: I loved it. 576 00:25:02,160 --> 00:25:04,640 Speaker 1: Probably the fastest we've watched the show in a very 577 00:25:04,680 --> 00:25:06,679 Speaker 1: long time. Of every episode, roll it roll it in 578 00:25:06,880 --> 00:25:07,800 Speaker 1: like forty minutes or so. 579 00:25:07,920 --> 00:25:10,000 Speaker 2: Every other show we've started, we're on like episode three 580 00:25:10,040 --> 00:25:12,119 Speaker 2: and like six weeks behind, but that one we were like, 581 00:25:12,359 --> 00:25:13,080 Speaker 2: gotta watch it. 582 00:25:13,280 --> 00:25:15,760 Speaker 1: Same basis as the movie, but I feel like it 583 00:25:15,800 --> 00:25:19,399 Speaker 1: works so much better as a series because every episode 584 00:25:19,880 --> 00:25:22,359 Speaker 1: has its own mission, digs in a little more and 585 00:25:22,400 --> 00:25:25,560 Speaker 1: it it's so much more emotional and grounded in reality. 586 00:25:25,680 --> 00:25:27,879 Speaker 1: I love the way that he acts in that he 587 00:25:27,960 --> 00:25:31,439 Speaker 1: has like this very it almost feels like he's not 588 00:25:31,600 --> 00:25:34,480 Speaker 1: acting because he's so chill and calm, and I just 589 00:25:34,520 --> 00:25:36,679 Speaker 1: love the way that he speaks. It's like a normal 590 00:25:36,800 --> 00:25:40,679 Speaker 1: human speaking and not acting, but he is acting. 591 00:25:40,720 --> 00:25:43,720 Speaker 2: So he's just so good at your crush about Donald 592 00:25:43,800 --> 00:25:46,399 Speaker 2: lover now, but a great show. I feel like the 593 00:25:46,480 --> 00:25:49,199 Speaker 2: movie is overshadowed by the fact that it's when like 594 00:25:49,280 --> 00:25:51,679 Speaker 2: Brad and Angelina got together. I honestly, that's all I 595 00:25:51,680 --> 00:25:55,880 Speaker 2: can say. Yeah that overshadows me the movie with Yeah. 596 00:25:55,720 --> 00:25:58,760 Speaker 1: That overshadows it for me. But collectively, that is the 597 00:25:58,800 --> 00:26:03,280 Speaker 1: best TV show we've watched. The worst show is one 598 00:26:03,320 --> 00:26:05,760 Speaker 1: that I am not going to finish. You'll probably finish 599 00:26:05,880 --> 00:26:07,440 Speaker 1: is Death and Other Details on Hulu. 600 00:26:08,040 --> 00:26:11,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, but I it doesn't work every time we try 601 00:26:11,119 --> 00:26:12,800 Speaker 2: to watch it on the Hulah app or TV, so 602 00:26:12,840 --> 00:26:13,800 Speaker 2: I might not finish it. 603 00:26:14,240 --> 00:26:17,440 Speaker 1: The first episode was interesting. I like, this was good. 604 00:26:17,440 --> 00:26:20,439 Speaker 2: It's kind of like a death on the Nile Knives, 605 00:26:20,520 --> 00:26:22,840 Speaker 2: murder on the Orient Express, et cetera. 606 00:26:23,160 --> 00:26:26,840 Speaker 1: Visually, it's very colorful, colorful and fun. But it really 607 00:26:26,880 --> 00:26:29,200 Speaker 1: lost me after that first episode of like, I don't 608 00:26:29,280 --> 00:26:31,520 Speaker 1: really get what they're trying to do here. I'm out. 609 00:26:31,600 --> 00:26:33,880 Speaker 2: I honestly kind of forgot about the show, so maybe, yeah, 610 00:26:33,920 --> 00:26:35,000 Speaker 2: maybe I won't finish it. 611 00:26:35,160 --> 00:26:36,560 Speaker 1: I did the Shark Tank. I'm out. 612 00:26:36,960 --> 00:26:39,200 Speaker 2: I'm out for that reason. I'm out. 613 00:26:39,320 --> 00:26:41,920 Speaker 1: And your honorable mentioned book The. 614 00:26:41,880 --> 00:26:44,440 Speaker 2: Women by Kristin Hannah. It is almost five hundred pages 615 00:26:44,440 --> 00:26:45,800 Speaker 2: and I read it in forty seven hours. 616 00:26:46,080 --> 00:26:46,879 Speaker 1: That is impressive. 617 00:26:47,320 --> 00:26:49,320 Speaker 2: I stayed up late two nights in a row and 618 00:26:49,920 --> 00:26:53,679 Speaker 2: power through. She does historical fiction really well, but unlike 619 00:26:53,720 --> 00:26:55,080 Speaker 2: most of the ones I read, it is not World 620 00:26:55,080 --> 00:26:57,119 Speaker 2: War Two. It is set in the Vietnam War, and 621 00:26:57,200 --> 00:27:00,560 Speaker 2: it is about a female nurse who enrolled in the 622 00:27:00,680 --> 00:27:03,720 Speaker 2: army and goes to Vietnam, and it's about like the 623 00:27:03,760 --> 00:27:07,280 Speaker 2: friendship she makes, and it's about trying to assimilate back 624 00:27:07,359 --> 00:27:11,080 Speaker 2: into life in the us after the Vietnam War, and 625 00:27:11,160 --> 00:27:13,320 Speaker 2: just like the power of female friendships and just the 626 00:27:13,359 --> 00:27:18,760 Speaker 2: power of like women in general. And it was fantastic. 627 00:27:18,800 --> 00:27:20,760 Speaker 2: I think Kristin hann is one of the best writers. 628 00:27:21,359 --> 00:27:23,399 Speaker 2: And interestingly enough, I don't even know if you knew this, 629 00:27:23,440 --> 00:27:27,560 Speaker 2: the movie rights have already been purchased. Yeah, film, and 630 00:27:27,600 --> 00:27:30,320 Speaker 2: I think that'll be really good. She did an Instagram 631 00:27:30,400 --> 00:27:32,240 Speaker 2: post and was asking people just like who they wanted 632 00:27:32,280 --> 00:27:35,639 Speaker 2: to see cast, and Glenn Palell was a very common suggestion. 633 00:27:35,920 --> 00:27:37,879 Speaker 1: Everybody wants him right now, I do. 634 00:27:38,119 --> 00:27:39,960 Speaker 2: I can picture a character he'd be really good for. 635 00:27:40,480 --> 00:27:43,000 Speaker 2: I think he could be good in it. So read 636 00:27:43,000 --> 00:27:47,080 Speaker 2: the Women. It's fantastic, very ahead of reading the book 637 00:27:47,119 --> 00:27:50,040 Speaker 2: before the movie. On that one, Yeah, that's my book recognition. 638 00:27:50,080 --> 00:27:52,200 Speaker 2: And then an honorable mention. TV show would be One 639 00:27:52,280 --> 00:27:55,920 Speaker 2: Day on Netflix. It's based on the book, and there 640 00:27:55,960 --> 00:27:57,720 Speaker 2: was a movie in twenty eleven with me in Halfway. 641 00:27:58,119 --> 00:28:00,480 Speaker 2: But it's fourteen episodes. Some of the I'm only like 642 00:28:00,560 --> 00:28:04,400 Speaker 2: twenty minutes. We'll slow at times, but it's sweet, it's good. 643 00:28:04,840 --> 00:28:06,800 Speaker 2: I stayed up late finishing it one night. I knew 644 00:28:06,800 --> 00:28:10,600 Speaker 2: how it was gonna end, and I still was like Okay, 645 00:28:10,600 --> 00:28:14,560 Speaker 2: those are my honorable mentions. Oh my favorite one, Kate 646 00:28:14,640 --> 00:28:18,239 Speaker 2: Kennedy won a Millennial. I'm just gonna plug her on 647 00:28:18,280 --> 00:28:21,000 Speaker 2: this because I listened to her podcast all day long. 648 00:28:21,760 --> 00:28:24,360 Speaker 2: Her book's fabulous. That's what it's called. One a Millennial, 649 00:28:24,359 --> 00:28:27,960 Speaker 2: and it's just about like girlhood and nostalgia in the 650 00:28:28,080 --> 00:28:33,360 Speaker 2: nineties and Mary Kate Nashley and sleepovers and American girl dolls, 651 00:28:33,960 --> 00:28:34,960 Speaker 2: all the fun things. 652 00:28:35,400 --> 00:28:37,600 Speaker 1: There you go. We'll come back and give our review 653 00:28:37,760 --> 00:28:38,640 Speaker 1: of Done two. 654 00:28:39,200 --> 00:28:41,000 Speaker 2: Did I or did I not like it? 655 00:28:41,120 --> 00:28:46,960 Speaker 1: And then the trailer park we'll talk about Wicked. Let's 656 00:28:47,000 --> 00:28:49,800 Speaker 1: get into it now. A spoiler free review of Dune 657 00:28:49,880 --> 00:28:53,240 Speaker 1: Part two, a movie that had so much hype built 658 00:28:53,320 --> 00:28:56,200 Speaker 1: around it. Again, I don't go read reviews. I don't 659 00:28:56,200 --> 00:28:58,960 Speaker 1: listen to reviews going into a movie, but it was 660 00:28:59,080 --> 00:29:03,880 Speaker 1: hard to ofvoid all of the tweets and people posting 661 00:29:03,920 --> 00:29:06,440 Speaker 1: in their stories of how much they loved it. But 662 00:29:06,520 --> 00:29:10,520 Speaker 1: that's where I stopped going into it. But I knew 663 00:29:11,120 --> 00:29:13,160 Speaker 1: that there was gonna be more action in this one, 664 00:29:13,240 --> 00:29:16,440 Speaker 1: just given the trailer given with the director dnievil Knew, 665 00:29:16,480 --> 00:29:19,840 Speaker 1: who said that the first one was essentially setting up 666 00:29:19,880 --> 00:29:23,000 Speaker 1: all the big action in the second one, and I 667 00:29:23,160 --> 00:29:26,760 Speaker 1: was not a fan of Dune Part one. Quite frankly, 668 00:29:26,880 --> 00:29:29,600 Speaker 1: I found that movie to be very boring. It was 669 00:29:29,640 --> 00:29:31,680 Speaker 1: a lot of walking in the sand. It felt like 670 00:29:32,080 --> 00:29:34,719 Speaker 1: Game of Thrones in the desert to me. Trying to 671 00:29:34,800 --> 00:29:38,480 Speaker 1: build this big, elaborate world in just one film for 672 00:29:38,600 --> 00:29:40,720 Speaker 1: me felt like too big of a task. So I 673 00:29:40,760 --> 00:29:42,520 Speaker 1: wasn't the big a fan of it. I didn't hate 674 00:29:42,560 --> 00:29:45,360 Speaker 1: it by any means, because I still think visually it 675 00:29:45,400 --> 00:29:47,800 Speaker 1: looked amazing and the action that we did have towards 676 00:29:47,840 --> 00:29:50,840 Speaker 1: the end of the movie had me excited going into 677 00:29:50,920 --> 00:29:53,720 Speaker 1: this one. And really I just wanted to see Timothy 678 00:29:53,720 --> 00:29:55,920 Speaker 1: shallow May write a word. I was all in it 679 00:29:55,960 --> 00:29:59,080 Speaker 1: for that. And this movie has an incredible cast with 680 00:29:59,120 --> 00:30:03,440 Speaker 1: Timothy Schallo, May Sendaia, Josh Brolin, Austin Butler who did 681 00:30:03,480 --> 00:30:05,680 Speaker 1: a really good job in this movie. They brought in 682 00:30:05,800 --> 00:30:10,080 Speaker 1: Florence Pew Dave Bautista, who is proving that he can 683 00:30:10,200 --> 00:30:12,160 Speaker 1: really do it at all, and I love that he 684 00:30:12,280 --> 00:30:16,520 Speaker 1: takes on every single role with so much just charisma 685 00:30:16,680 --> 00:30:19,640 Speaker 1: and power, and he can do so many different things, 686 00:30:19,680 --> 00:30:22,320 Speaker 1: and for I know, I compare him to The Rock 687 00:30:22,400 --> 00:30:25,400 Speaker 1: a lot, because they both came from the WWE, but 688 00:30:25,480 --> 00:30:27,800 Speaker 1: the Rock will only do movies where he is the star. 689 00:30:28,240 --> 00:30:30,920 Speaker 1: Dave Bautista will do roles in a big movie like 690 00:30:30,920 --> 00:30:34,640 Speaker 1: this as a supporting actor and completely crush it, which 691 00:30:34,640 --> 00:30:36,880 Speaker 1: I think is a great, great value to you as 692 00:30:36,920 --> 00:30:39,600 Speaker 1: an actor. You don't have to be the star every time, 693 00:30:39,960 --> 00:30:42,120 Speaker 1: and for that reason, I think he is winning in 694 00:30:42,160 --> 00:30:46,400 Speaker 1: the game of WWE wrestler's turned actors. You also have 695 00:30:46,480 --> 00:30:51,280 Speaker 1: Christopher Walkin, Javier Bardem which seeing him and Josh Brolin 696 00:30:51,400 --> 00:30:53,680 Speaker 1: in a movie together gave me no Country for Old 697 00:30:53,720 --> 00:30:56,880 Speaker 1: Men vibes. So I love the cast. I love the 698 00:30:56,920 --> 00:30:59,640 Speaker 1: director denievil Neuve, who has done movies like Blade Runner, 699 00:30:59,680 --> 00:31:02,840 Speaker 1: twenty four, forty nine, Secario, and of course he did 700 00:31:02,880 --> 00:31:06,440 Speaker 1: Part One, so he is somebody who has a really 701 00:31:06,480 --> 00:31:11,080 Speaker 1: big grasp on doing big action movies, big sci fi movies. 702 00:31:11,120 --> 00:31:14,000 Speaker 1: He also finds great cinematographers to make his vision come 703 00:31:14,040 --> 00:31:17,200 Speaker 1: to life. Greg Frasier in this movie crushed it. And 704 00:31:17,240 --> 00:31:19,360 Speaker 1: that is where I want to start, is the visual 705 00:31:19,440 --> 00:31:22,280 Speaker 1: aspect of this movie. That first action sequence had me 706 00:31:22,320 --> 00:31:25,560 Speaker 1: on my toes and there were these really slick movements 707 00:31:25,640 --> 00:31:28,520 Speaker 1: that were definite upgrades from Part One. That led me 708 00:31:28,560 --> 00:31:30,360 Speaker 1: to believe that this movie was gonna have so much 709 00:31:30,360 --> 00:31:34,120 Speaker 1: more action and have a completely different profile than doing 710 00:31:34,200 --> 00:31:36,840 Speaker 1: Part one, leading me to believe that the director wasn't 711 00:31:36,920 --> 00:31:39,040 Speaker 1: lying and this is where all the action is going 712 00:31:39,120 --> 00:31:41,400 Speaker 1: to be. So there are so many great things I 713 00:31:41,440 --> 00:31:44,280 Speaker 1: can say about how good this movie looked visually, and 714 00:31:44,360 --> 00:31:47,360 Speaker 1: I think where it really shined was the action. It 715 00:31:47,400 --> 00:31:51,880 Speaker 1: had such beautiful explosions. I'm not sure I've ever described 716 00:31:52,240 --> 00:31:55,200 Speaker 1: an explosion as being beautiful, but there were these big 717 00:31:55,320 --> 00:31:58,040 Speaker 1: bursts of flames, and you combine it with the unique 718 00:31:58,080 --> 00:32:00,880 Speaker 1: sound design that this movie had that it had the 719 00:32:00,880 --> 00:32:04,280 Speaker 1: theater rumbling, and this is a movie that even if 720 00:32:04,320 --> 00:32:06,880 Speaker 1: you're not the biggest fan of the franchise, or the 721 00:32:07,000 --> 00:32:10,200 Speaker 1: characters or the story, it still demands the big screen 722 00:32:10,280 --> 00:32:12,800 Speaker 1: because of the scale of the sets, because of the 723 00:32:12,800 --> 00:32:16,160 Speaker 1: scale of the action. And this is a very very 724 00:32:16,360 --> 00:32:20,200 Speaker 1: cinematic movie that I think seeing it in theaters is 725 00:32:20,240 --> 00:32:23,040 Speaker 1: the only way to see it. But that being said, 726 00:32:23,200 --> 00:32:25,959 Speaker 1: I don't think this movie is for everybody. And this 727 00:32:26,040 --> 00:32:28,880 Speaker 1: is coming from me who as a self proclaimed nerd. 728 00:32:29,520 --> 00:32:32,280 Speaker 1: I tell people that I'm into sci fi, but this 729 00:32:32,360 --> 00:32:35,160 Speaker 1: movie has to me questioning whether or not I'm into 730 00:32:35,200 --> 00:32:37,720 Speaker 1: this type of sci fi. I think there are two 731 00:32:37,800 --> 00:32:42,640 Speaker 1: different levels of nerds. One that's a little bit more fun, lighthearted, 732 00:32:42,720 --> 00:32:47,920 Speaker 1: still nerdy stuff, and there's this more like refined, hardcore nerdom. 733 00:32:48,080 --> 00:32:51,000 Speaker 1: The way I describe my nerd friends is I have 734 00:32:51,120 --> 00:32:53,200 Speaker 1: some who are more into Star Wars and I have 735 00:32:53,320 --> 00:32:56,320 Speaker 1: some that are more into Star Trek. If you were 736 00:32:56,400 --> 00:32:59,000 Speaker 1: more into Star Wars, you might not be the biggest 737 00:32:59,000 --> 00:33:01,560 Speaker 1: fan of do Un. If you're more into Star Trek, 738 00:33:01,600 --> 00:33:05,000 Speaker 1: you probably love it. And I know what the comments 739 00:33:05,000 --> 00:33:08,160 Speaker 1: are gonna say is that Dune was essentially ripped off 740 00:33:08,200 --> 00:33:10,160 Speaker 1: by Star Wars, which is a little bit more of 741 00:33:10,200 --> 00:33:14,320 Speaker 1: a digestible, family friendly, appeals to kids' version of Dune. 742 00:33:14,480 --> 00:33:16,640 Speaker 1: The book came out before the first Star Wars movie, 743 00:33:16,680 --> 00:33:20,200 Speaker 1: so George Lucas pulled a lot of inspiration from Dune 744 00:33:20,280 --> 00:33:23,480 Speaker 1: and you can see that. So when I sit down 745 00:33:23,520 --> 00:33:27,000 Speaker 1: to watch a sci fi movie, a movie like Dune 746 00:33:27,040 --> 00:33:29,280 Speaker 1: is one that I kind of need to spend more 747 00:33:29,320 --> 00:33:31,880 Speaker 1: time with. And I know after watching this movie it 748 00:33:31,960 --> 00:33:34,800 Speaker 1: was by no means bad. I just feel like it's 749 00:33:34,840 --> 00:33:38,720 Speaker 1: not entirely for me. I have trouble connecting with the 750 00:33:38,840 --> 00:33:42,240 Speaker 1: characters and the themes in this movie, which there are 751 00:33:42,480 --> 00:33:45,880 Speaker 1: very big, complex themes. What it is about essentially is 752 00:33:45,920 --> 00:33:49,880 Speaker 1: Timothy Shalomay's character trying to seek revenge against the people 753 00:33:49,920 --> 00:33:52,800 Speaker 1: who destroyed his family. He teams up with India and 754 00:33:52,960 --> 00:33:56,480 Speaker 1: her crew and they are going into war defeating these enemies, 755 00:33:56,640 --> 00:34:00,000 Speaker 1: and the overarching theme is him having to choose between 756 00:34:00,240 --> 00:34:02,800 Speaker 1: the love of his life and the fate of the universe. 757 00:34:02,840 --> 00:34:06,040 Speaker 1: He's having these visions of what is going to happen 758 00:34:06,120 --> 00:34:08,640 Speaker 1: in the future. And then there's this other big theme 759 00:34:08,680 --> 00:34:11,600 Speaker 1: that has a lot of religious undertones about what it 760 00:34:11,640 --> 00:34:14,200 Speaker 1: means to have a messiah, what it means to be 761 00:34:14,280 --> 00:34:16,960 Speaker 1: waiting for a person who is said to you know, 762 00:34:17,120 --> 00:34:20,359 Speaker 1: guide you, be your beacon, be the person you are 763 00:34:20,360 --> 00:34:23,680 Speaker 1: going to follow those religious undertones, but really it is 764 00:34:23,719 --> 00:34:27,239 Speaker 1: a story about good and evil, with Timothy Shallowmay being 765 00:34:27,320 --> 00:34:31,560 Speaker 1: the hero, Austin Butler and Dave Batista being the villains here. 766 00:34:31,840 --> 00:34:34,200 Speaker 1: And while I understand this, and I can already read 767 00:34:34,200 --> 00:34:36,360 Speaker 1: the comments again of people saying, well, you just didn't 768 00:34:36,400 --> 00:34:39,200 Speaker 1: get it. I understand all that, but the level of 769 00:34:39,239 --> 00:34:43,520 Speaker 1: storytelling that it has, even though I'm understanding these plot 770 00:34:43,560 --> 00:34:46,080 Speaker 1: points and following along all these characters, which it does 771 00:34:46,160 --> 00:34:48,080 Speaker 1: take a lot of paying attention. This is a movie 772 00:34:48,160 --> 00:34:50,680 Speaker 1: you really have to be dialed into, because if you 773 00:34:50,719 --> 00:34:53,520 Speaker 1: miss one line, if you miss one little part, you 774 00:34:53,600 --> 00:34:57,719 Speaker 1: may be confused throughout the movie, even if you understand 775 00:34:57,760 --> 00:35:00,840 Speaker 1: all the plot points. For me, anyway, I had trouble 776 00:35:00,920 --> 00:35:04,759 Speaker 1: connecting with the characters and really feeling the things that 777 00:35:04,840 --> 00:35:08,319 Speaker 1: I normally feel in a movie of this scale. And 778 00:35:08,360 --> 00:35:11,000 Speaker 1: that was even with this one having a little bit 779 00:35:11,080 --> 00:35:14,880 Speaker 1: more levity to it, with Javier Bardam's character cracking some 780 00:35:15,040 --> 00:35:17,800 Speaker 1: jokes here and there. There was a little bit more camaraderie, 781 00:35:17,960 --> 00:35:21,200 Speaker 1: people poking fun at Timothy Chalomey. This one had a 782 00:35:21,239 --> 00:35:24,040 Speaker 1: lot more of those elements that lacked in the first one. 783 00:35:24,640 --> 00:35:27,279 Speaker 1: But it always comes back to that connection between the 784 00:35:27,400 --> 00:35:32,600 Speaker 1: spice and the moisture that is so specialized to me 785 00:35:32,960 --> 00:35:36,840 Speaker 1: that I don't really care about it. And that's probably 786 00:35:36,880 --> 00:35:40,040 Speaker 1: my dumb brain of not wanting to grasp that concept 787 00:35:40,440 --> 00:35:43,919 Speaker 1: or think it's that interesting that I'm like, they're doing 788 00:35:43,960 --> 00:35:47,440 Speaker 1: this all because of spice and moisture. So I was 789 00:35:47,560 --> 00:35:51,000 Speaker 1: just trying to visualize exactly where this is taking place 790 00:35:51,040 --> 00:35:53,520 Speaker 1: in the world and allow myself to fully be a 791 00:35:53,560 --> 00:35:56,360 Speaker 1: part of that world, but there were things throughout that 792 00:35:56,480 --> 00:35:59,359 Speaker 1: just took me out of it. And as much as 793 00:35:59,400 --> 00:36:01,600 Speaker 1: I loved tim with the Chalo May, maybe it's because 794 00:36:01,840 --> 00:36:04,560 Speaker 1: it was coming off Wonka, it was I found it 795 00:36:04,600 --> 00:36:08,680 Speaker 1: hard for me, probably unfairly, that he is the person 796 00:36:08,840 --> 00:36:12,000 Speaker 1: for this role. And maybe it's just because of the 797 00:36:12,000 --> 00:36:14,240 Speaker 1: way he talks to me. He just sounded like Timmy 798 00:36:14,280 --> 00:36:18,000 Speaker 1: tim delivering some of these speeches and talking so just 799 00:36:18,160 --> 00:36:21,399 Speaker 1: normally when everybody around him has a cool accent, they're 800 00:36:21,400 --> 00:36:24,920 Speaker 1: speaking a different language, which his character did too, But 801 00:36:25,040 --> 00:36:27,200 Speaker 1: I just found it to be like, Oh, it's just 802 00:36:27,239 --> 00:36:29,759 Speaker 1: Timothy Shallome in there. So I think this is a 803 00:36:29,800 --> 00:36:32,160 Speaker 1: movie in about five years, much like I did with 804 00:36:32,239 --> 00:36:34,680 Speaker 1: Interstellar that I didn't love the first time I saw 805 00:36:34,719 --> 00:36:38,400 Speaker 1: it in theaters, but years later, after revisiting it, learning 806 00:36:38,440 --> 00:36:41,560 Speaker 1: more about it, researching more about it, I understand that 807 00:36:41,719 --> 00:36:44,040 Speaker 1: film and what it was trying to do and what 808 00:36:44,080 --> 00:36:47,799 Speaker 1: it was trying to say. Same case will probably be 809 00:36:47,960 --> 00:36:50,080 Speaker 1: here and I'll look back and think, ah, I really 810 00:36:50,120 --> 00:36:54,000 Speaker 1: got this review wrong upon my first reactions. But I 811 00:36:54,040 --> 00:36:56,799 Speaker 1: couldn't come on here and tell you that I completely 812 00:36:56,960 --> 00:37:00,760 Speaker 1: loved all of the storytelling elements and that I'm fully 813 00:37:00,800 --> 00:37:03,960 Speaker 1: into dune, because I didn't really leave with that impression 814 00:37:04,800 --> 00:37:06,920 Speaker 1: in those first ninety minutes. If it would have ended there, 815 00:37:07,000 --> 00:37:08,759 Speaker 1: I'd have came on here and give it a four 816 00:37:08,760 --> 00:37:12,360 Speaker 1: point five out of five. But after about that ninety 817 00:37:12,440 --> 00:37:15,280 Speaker 1: minute mark, towards the back half of Act two into 818 00:37:15,320 --> 00:37:18,560 Speaker 1: Act three, it got Doney again, and by Douney again, 819 00:37:18,640 --> 00:37:22,120 Speaker 1: I mean it got a little bit boring. The dialogue 820 00:37:22,120 --> 00:37:24,240 Speaker 1: started to feel a little bit more like a chore, 821 00:37:24,680 --> 00:37:27,640 Speaker 1: and when all of these big epic moments start happening, 822 00:37:28,160 --> 00:37:30,800 Speaker 1: I don't have that connection with these characters to really 823 00:37:30,800 --> 00:37:33,279 Speaker 1: make me get riled up in my seat and want 824 00:37:33,320 --> 00:37:36,359 Speaker 1: to cheer along. And maybe it's because my brain has 825 00:37:36,440 --> 00:37:40,120 Speaker 1: been ruined by the MCU of expecting some witty catchphrase 826 00:37:40,520 --> 00:37:42,759 Speaker 1: or some big heroic moment for something to pop to 827 00:37:42,800 --> 00:37:46,440 Speaker 1: get me excited. I just didn't really have that feeling. 828 00:37:46,880 --> 00:37:48,880 Speaker 1: And once it was over, I thought it went on 829 00:37:49,000 --> 00:37:53,000 Speaker 1: probably twenty to twenty five minutes too long. Probably unfair 830 00:37:53,080 --> 00:37:54,840 Speaker 1: for me to say that if it just made it shorter, 831 00:37:54,920 --> 00:37:57,640 Speaker 1: it would have been better. But when it started to 832 00:37:57,719 --> 00:38:00,440 Speaker 1: dip for me, it dipped pretty hard, and I just 833 00:38:00,560 --> 00:38:02,719 Speaker 1: kind of wanted it to be over. But I just 834 00:38:02,840 --> 00:38:04,759 Speaker 1: know that there is such a big fandom for this 835 00:38:04,840 --> 00:38:07,000 Speaker 1: movie of people who truly get it, because if you 836 00:38:07,040 --> 00:38:09,480 Speaker 1: look at the box office numbers in the United States, 837 00:38:09,480 --> 00:38:12,080 Speaker 1: it made eighty one point five million dollars. Worldwide, it's 838 00:38:12,080 --> 00:38:14,960 Speaker 1: almost one hundred and eighty million dollars, So the fandom 839 00:38:15,120 --> 00:38:17,879 Speaker 1: is there. I just think there are two different kinds 840 00:38:17,920 --> 00:38:20,160 Speaker 1: of nerds again, the more refined nerds who are going 841 00:38:20,200 --> 00:38:23,200 Speaker 1: to love this, people who like sci fi with big, 842 00:38:23,280 --> 00:38:27,560 Speaker 1: complex themes, a lot of characters, different languages. If you're 843 00:38:27,600 --> 00:38:29,640 Speaker 1: more into like reading a book and then going to 844 00:38:29,640 --> 00:38:32,279 Speaker 1: see the movie, this is all for you. But if 845 00:38:32,280 --> 00:38:35,759 Speaker 1: you're like me that usually gets more invested in the 846 00:38:35,800 --> 00:38:39,200 Speaker 1: emotional side of things, likes a little bit more action 847 00:38:39,320 --> 00:38:41,520 Speaker 1: throughout the entire movie and not just a lot of 848 00:38:41,560 --> 00:38:44,880 Speaker 1: dialogue of people speaking in these weird chambers, then you 849 00:38:45,080 --> 00:38:47,680 Speaker 1: might find it to be a little bit boring and 850 00:38:47,880 --> 00:38:50,359 Speaker 1: tedious at times. The one thing I think we can 851 00:38:50,400 --> 00:38:54,640 Speaker 1: all agree upon is that cinematically it is unmatched. This 852 00:38:54,719 --> 00:38:57,120 Speaker 1: is how you do special effects. All of the action 853 00:38:57,239 --> 00:39:02,600 Speaker 1: sequences were magnificent, seeing Sandaia shoot these amazing guns, seeing 854 00:39:02,680 --> 00:39:05,359 Speaker 1: all of the choppers, those little things that they would 855 00:39:05,440 --> 00:39:08,640 Speaker 1: use to attract all of the worms. So the action 856 00:39:08,840 --> 00:39:11,759 Speaker 1: and the visual aspect are amazing, So I still think 857 00:39:11,760 --> 00:39:13,880 Speaker 1: you will enjoy that even if you don't enjoy the 858 00:39:13,960 --> 00:39:17,239 Speaker 1: other themes. So for Dune Part two, I give it 859 00:39:17,360 --> 00:39:20,680 Speaker 1: three point five out of five sandworms. And now that 860 00:39:20,640 --> 00:39:22,640 Speaker 1: you've heard of my thoughts, Kelsey will now give her 861 00:39:22,840 --> 00:39:26,680 Speaker 1: uninterrupted feedback on Dune Part two, Take it Away. 862 00:39:26,760 --> 00:39:29,080 Speaker 2: I came up with the punt. I do not like it. 863 00:39:29,080 --> 00:39:31,440 Speaker 2: It's bad, okay bad, but that's how I felt. It 864 00:39:31,600 --> 00:39:35,000 Speaker 2: wasn't for me. I understand why people like it. I 865 00:39:35,040 --> 00:39:40,040 Speaker 2: can see that it's like cinematographically really cool. You got 866 00:39:40,040 --> 00:39:43,800 Speaker 2: a great cast. The color palette's a little brown. Visually 867 00:39:43,840 --> 00:39:46,080 Speaker 2: did not keep my eye. I understand it's desert. You 868 00:39:46,160 --> 00:39:48,480 Speaker 2: didn't I talk about it. I like the color palette, 869 00:39:48,520 --> 00:39:50,799 Speaker 2: Oh I didn't. Didn't keep me going. Yeah, I think 870 00:39:50,840 --> 00:39:52,840 Speaker 2: I probably should have rewatched the first one. But to 871 00:39:52,840 --> 00:39:54,520 Speaker 2: be fair, the first one did put me to sleep. 872 00:39:54,960 --> 00:39:58,080 Speaker 1: Was boring, so I was a little confused. 873 00:39:58,760 --> 00:40:01,000 Speaker 2: Should have refreshed myself on what spice was because the 874 00:40:01,000 --> 00:40:02,840 Speaker 2: whole time I'm like, are we fighting over? Like Paprika? 875 00:40:03,040 --> 00:40:06,640 Speaker 2: Turned out spice as a hallucinogenic substance. I learned that 876 00:40:06,719 --> 00:40:08,640 Speaker 2: last night of Wikipedia when I was like trying to 877 00:40:08,719 --> 00:40:11,120 Speaker 2: understand and I get that this book was in nineteen 878 00:40:11,160 --> 00:40:17,399 Speaker 2: sixty five, huge Dystopian, really revolutionized dystopian novels. Maybe I'd 879 00:40:17,440 --> 00:40:19,160 Speaker 2: like the book better, but it wasn't for me. 880 00:40:19,520 --> 00:40:20,279 Speaker 1: What do you rate it? 881 00:40:20,600 --> 00:40:23,640 Speaker 2: Hmmmm? I mean the cast was amazing. I'm gonna give 882 00:40:23,680 --> 00:40:24,600 Speaker 2: it one point five. 883 00:40:26,440 --> 00:40:27,480 Speaker 1: She went low folks. 884 00:40:27,680 --> 00:40:30,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, and that is attributed to Zindia. 885 00:40:30,719 --> 00:40:36,839 Speaker 1: All right, we'll come back and talk about Wicked. It's 886 00:40:36,920 --> 00:40:38,760 Speaker 1: time to head down to movie. 887 00:40:38,800 --> 00:40:40,279 Speaker 3: Mike Tylor Paul. 888 00:40:41,160 --> 00:40:43,920 Speaker 1: I have always had this odd fascination with The Wizard 889 00:40:43,960 --> 00:40:46,120 Speaker 1: of Oz. The original one from nineteen thirty nine. I 890 00:40:46,200 --> 00:40:49,359 Speaker 1: believe is one of the best movies of all time 891 00:40:49,440 --> 00:40:52,640 Speaker 1: because it is a spectacle. And that is what I 892 00:40:52,680 --> 00:40:57,400 Speaker 1: love about filmmaking, movies that go to extreme lengths to 893 00:40:57,440 --> 00:41:00,640 Speaker 1: make something look so cinematic. And I can only imagine 894 00:41:01,160 --> 00:41:04,560 Speaker 1: what it would have been like to watch the original 895 00:41:04,600 --> 00:41:08,440 Speaker 1: Wizard of Oz in theaters back in thirty nine. There 896 00:41:08,440 --> 00:41:11,640 Speaker 1: are so many elements of that movie that still watching 897 00:41:11,640 --> 00:41:15,560 Speaker 1: them now, just realizing the technology or lack thereof, they 898 00:41:15,600 --> 00:41:18,279 Speaker 1: had back in the thirties making that movie, thinking of 899 00:41:18,400 --> 00:41:22,560 Speaker 1: all the awful stories that are like this urban legend, 900 00:41:22,600 --> 00:41:26,879 Speaker 1: but they actually happened. About the horrors those actors went 901 00:41:26,960 --> 00:41:30,719 Speaker 1: through to make that movie. Judy Garland's life was basically 902 00:41:30,840 --> 00:41:35,520 Speaker 1: ruined by the Wizard of Oz. People were burned, injured, 903 00:41:35,600 --> 00:41:39,520 Speaker 1: later died as a result of the makeup they used 904 00:41:39,520 --> 00:41:42,640 Speaker 1: in the process of making that movie. The lion wore 905 00:41:42,680 --> 00:41:46,239 Speaker 1: an actual lion fur, and oh my gosh, all these 906 00:41:46,320 --> 00:41:48,799 Speaker 1: crazy things they did to make these movies because they 907 00:41:48,880 --> 00:41:52,280 Speaker 1: didn't have CGHI. But we've been talking on this episode 908 00:41:52,360 --> 00:41:55,799 Speaker 1: about the use of practical effects, and that is why 909 00:41:55,880 --> 00:41:58,280 Speaker 1: that movie holds up because you can watch it now, 910 00:41:58,520 --> 00:42:00,680 Speaker 1: and yes, it does look like it was made a 911 00:42:00,680 --> 00:42:04,319 Speaker 1: long time ago, but because they used so many practical 912 00:42:04,360 --> 00:42:08,200 Speaker 1: effects in big sets, the movie still holds up. And 913 00:42:08,239 --> 00:42:11,440 Speaker 1: that's why it continues to be such a fixture in 914 00:42:11,520 --> 00:42:14,960 Speaker 1: American film, and now this year it is celebrating its 915 00:42:15,000 --> 00:42:20,160 Speaker 1: eighty fifth anniversary. Eighty fifth anniversary is crazy. So I've 916 00:42:20,239 --> 00:42:24,400 Speaker 1: always had a weird place in my cinematic brain for 917 00:42:24,440 --> 00:42:27,400 Speaker 1: that movie that I'll sit down and watch it really 918 00:42:27,520 --> 00:42:29,120 Speaker 1: just to study it. I don't know if I just 919 00:42:29,160 --> 00:42:31,680 Speaker 1: love the concept of the movie, the songs in the movie. 920 00:42:31,880 --> 00:42:33,440 Speaker 1: I think, I just love it as a piece of 921 00:42:33,520 --> 00:42:35,880 Speaker 1: movie history, so I like to watch it to see 922 00:42:36,320 --> 00:42:39,400 Speaker 1: how exactly this came to be and the legacy it 923 00:42:39,440 --> 00:42:42,080 Speaker 1: has left on filmmaking. But it also led to me 924 00:42:42,480 --> 00:42:45,479 Speaker 1: to want to go see the twenty thirteen version Oz 925 00:42:45,520 --> 00:42:47,600 Speaker 1: the Great and Powerful, that was the origin story of 926 00:42:47,640 --> 00:42:50,759 Speaker 1: the Wizard. James Franco played him in that movie, and 927 00:42:50,800 --> 00:42:54,480 Speaker 1: the story was okay as a prequel. But what I 928 00:42:54,520 --> 00:42:57,000 Speaker 1: really thought that movie got right with director Sam Raimi 929 00:42:57,080 --> 00:42:59,760 Speaker 1: were the visual I thought that movie was very esthetically 930 00:42:59,760 --> 00:43:03,600 Speaker 1: please to me, didn't really cement itself in Wizard of 931 00:43:03,600 --> 00:43:06,280 Speaker 1: Oz history. But I still think that it's a pretty 932 00:43:06,280 --> 00:43:08,319 Speaker 1: good movie if you happen to miss that one back 933 00:43:08,360 --> 00:43:10,600 Speaker 1: when it came out well eleven years ago now. But 934 00:43:10,640 --> 00:43:13,800 Speaker 1: with that being said of me loving the original movie 935 00:43:14,080 --> 00:43:17,840 Speaker 1: loving the twenty thirteen prequel, I am not familiar with 936 00:43:17,960 --> 00:43:23,000 Speaker 1: Wicked whatsoever. I've never seen the musical. I've heard about 937 00:43:23,080 --> 00:43:26,320 Speaker 1: as far as what the plotline entails. It is essentially 938 00:43:26,360 --> 00:43:29,320 Speaker 1: the origin story of the Wicked Witch of the West. 939 00:43:29,560 --> 00:43:32,840 Speaker 1: But everybody I know who has seen the musical says 940 00:43:32,880 --> 00:43:35,680 Speaker 1: they love it. And obviously I am missing out on 941 00:43:35,719 --> 00:43:40,560 Speaker 1: something here. I am a fairly new lover of musicals, 942 00:43:40,600 --> 00:43:44,560 Speaker 1: which after talking to director Paul King and of the 943 00:43:44,640 --> 00:43:47,480 Speaker 1: last couple musicals I've seen in theaters, I realized that 944 00:43:47,520 --> 00:43:49,439 Speaker 1: I've been lying to myself for a very long time 945 00:43:49,480 --> 00:43:52,359 Speaker 1: saying that I don't really like musicals. I really do 946 00:43:52,520 --> 00:43:55,440 Speaker 1: enjoy them, but for some reason in our mind, we 947 00:43:55,600 --> 00:43:58,520 Speaker 1: just think a musical is going to be lame. But 948 00:43:58,640 --> 00:44:02,760 Speaker 1: since I hadn't seen this, and knowing that throughout history 949 00:44:02,840 --> 00:44:05,560 Speaker 1: of different types of iterations of the Wizard of Oz, 950 00:44:05,560 --> 00:44:08,160 Speaker 1: they have been hit or miss and they haven't done 951 00:44:08,239 --> 00:44:11,440 Speaker 1: a live action movie in a long time, since twenty thirteen, 952 00:44:11,800 --> 00:44:15,920 Speaker 1: so I didn't really have the highest expectations for this movie. 953 00:44:16,239 --> 00:44:19,920 Speaker 1: But after seeing this trailer and really getting a sense 954 00:44:20,000 --> 00:44:22,600 Speaker 1: of the tone they're going for in this movie, but 955 00:44:22,760 --> 00:44:25,759 Speaker 1: not only that, of how much this trailer honors that 956 00:44:25,840 --> 00:44:29,200 Speaker 1: original movie, and really how good the visuals look with 957 00:44:29,280 --> 00:44:31,879 Speaker 1: all the cast members in this movie, now I am 958 00:44:31,920 --> 00:44:34,720 Speaker 1: really looking forward to seeing this. So Wicked is coming 959 00:44:34,760 --> 00:44:37,759 Speaker 1: out in two parts. Part one is coming out this Thanksgiving. 960 00:44:38,120 --> 00:44:40,719 Speaker 1: It'll be followed up with Part two, which is coming 961 00:44:40,760 --> 00:44:43,840 Speaker 1: out November twenty six, twenty twenty five, so about a 962 00:44:43,960 --> 00:44:46,879 Speaker 1: year apart. So what this movie is about? And again, 963 00:44:46,920 --> 00:44:49,440 Speaker 1: if you're familiar with Wicked, you know all this. And 964 00:44:49,520 --> 00:44:52,319 Speaker 1: if I get any details wrong, forgive me because I 965 00:44:52,360 --> 00:44:55,560 Speaker 1: am looking at this merely as the plotline of this 966 00:44:55,680 --> 00:44:58,759 Speaker 1: movie without any real knowledge of the musical. But it 967 00:44:58,840 --> 00:45:02,160 Speaker 1: is set in the land of Alle before and continuing 968 00:45:02,200 --> 00:45:06,440 Speaker 1: after Dorothy Gale's arrival from Kansas, and its centers around Alphaba, 969 00:45:06,560 --> 00:45:09,040 Speaker 1: who is a green skinned woman and explores the path 970 00:45:09,080 --> 00:45:11,600 Speaker 1: that leads her to becoming the Wicked Witch of the West, 971 00:45:11,920 --> 00:45:16,400 Speaker 1: all while forming this unlikely relationship and rivalry with Glinda Upland, 972 00:45:16,680 --> 00:45:19,560 Speaker 1: who will go on to be Glinda the Good. In 973 00:45:19,600 --> 00:45:23,400 Speaker 1: this movie, you have Cynthia Arrivo who is playing Alphaba, 974 00:45:23,760 --> 00:45:27,840 Speaker 1: Ariana Grande who is playing Glinda. You also have Jonathan Bailey, 975 00:45:27,880 --> 00:45:32,160 Speaker 1: Michelle Yao, Ethan Slater, Bowen Yang, and Jeff Goldbloom as 976 00:45:32,239 --> 00:45:34,840 Speaker 1: the Wizard of Oz. So before I get into more 977 00:45:35,080 --> 00:45:37,440 Speaker 1: of Wicked, here is just a little bit of the trailer. 978 00:45:38,320 --> 00:45:42,279 Speaker 1: The best way to bring folks together is to give 979 00:45:42,360 --> 00:45:50,040 Speaker 1: him a real good anime. You agree, I am something 980 00:45:50,320 --> 00:45:51,720 Speaker 1: is not the same. 981 00:45:53,280 --> 00:45:58,239 Speaker 2: Something just takes over me. And what it does bad 982 00:45:58,280 --> 00:46:01,880 Speaker 2: things happening, wants you. 983 00:46:02,360 --> 00:46:04,120 Speaker 3: To harness your emotions. 984 00:46:05,320 --> 00:46:10,759 Speaker 1: Sky's the limited. I think this movie is going to 985 00:46:10,800 --> 00:46:14,160 Speaker 1: be made with the cast. I think sometimes when pop 986 00:46:14,200 --> 00:46:17,400 Speaker 1: stars get cast in a movie, it leads me to 987 00:46:17,440 --> 00:46:20,160 Speaker 1: believe that the movie isn't going to be very good, 988 00:46:20,239 --> 00:46:24,160 Speaker 1: because sometimes in musicals they just cast somebody who has 989 00:46:24,200 --> 00:46:27,880 Speaker 1: a major following and obviously somebody who can sing. But 990 00:46:27,960 --> 00:46:31,680 Speaker 1: I feel like that is more oftentimes a marketing tactic 991 00:46:31,680 --> 00:46:33,759 Speaker 1: than it is who can we get that is the 992 00:46:33,800 --> 00:46:38,480 Speaker 1: best person to play this role. So when Ariana Grande 993 00:46:38,640 --> 00:46:40,640 Speaker 1: was attached to this movie, I was a little bit 994 00:46:40,760 --> 00:46:44,080 Speaker 1: hesitant because of that. Even though Ariana Grande got her 995 00:46:44,120 --> 00:46:48,520 Speaker 1: start in acting on Nickelodeon, she hasn't really done a 996 00:46:48,520 --> 00:46:50,839 Speaker 1: whole lot of movies that make me think of her 997 00:46:50,920 --> 00:46:53,200 Speaker 1: as an actor before I think of her as a musician, 998 00:46:53,200 --> 00:46:56,279 Speaker 1: which is fine, but again I was just thinking, Oh, 999 00:46:56,320 --> 00:46:59,160 Speaker 1: they're going for somebody who has a major following, going 1000 00:46:59,200 --> 00:47:03,680 Speaker 1: for a big pops star, and hopefully we bank on 1001 00:47:03,719 --> 00:47:06,120 Speaker 1: the fact that her audience is going to come in 1002 00:47:06,160 --> 00:47:09,000 Speaker 1: and watch this movie and make it successful. I thought 1003 00:47:09,040 --> 00:47:11,080 Speaker 1: that was merely why she was cast in this movie. 1004 00:47:11,200 --> 00:47:14,760 Speaker 1: But after seeing her on screen as Glinda, it makes 1005 00:47:14,800 --> 00:47:18,880 Speaker 1: sense and all the other members of this cast look fantastic. 1006 00:47:19,360 --> 00:47:22,160 Speaker 1: So this movie is based on the book that was 1007 00:47:22,239 --> 00:47:26,840 Speaker 1: later turned into the musical, which was really made popular 1008 00:47:26,880 --> 00:47:28,960 Speaker 1: back in two thousand and three when it debuted on 1009 00:47:29,080 --> 00:47:32,600 Speaker 1: Broadway with Kristin Chenowith and Adina Menzel. That is where 1010 00:47:32,840 --> 00:47:35,680 Speaker 1: all the success of this story came from. And this 1011 00:47:35,719 --> 00:47:38,440 Speaker 1: movie has been in development for a very long time, 1012 00:47:38,880 --> 00:47:42,160 Speaker 1: going through different directors and different cast members, and now 1013 00:47:42,600 --> 00:47:44,400 Speaker 1: we finally have the first look of it, and I 1014 00:47:44,400 --> 00:47:46,799 Speaker 1: think they got it right. The movie is based on 1015 00:47:46,880 --> 00:47:49,200 Speaker 1: the book that was turned into the musical. The premise 1016 00:47:49,239 --> 00:47:53,239 Speaker 1: of it, Glinda and Alphaba are students at his university, 1017 00:47:53,520 --> 00:47:57,640 Speaker 1: where despite their differences, they form a relationship, navigate friendship, 1018 00:47:57,920 --> 00:48:01,040 Speaker 1: go through magical training, and even little bit of romance 1019 00:48:01,080 --> 00:48:05,120 Speaker 1: while discovering their own identities. However, the world of Oz 1020 00:48:05,160 --> 00:48:08,719 Speaker 1: takes the turn whenever Alpha but is wrongfully deemed the 1021 00:48:08,760 --> 00:48:12,040 Speaker 1: Wicked Witch. So this part one and Part two are 1022 00:48:12,080 --> 00:48:15,440 Speaker 1: going to show how she becomes the villain and her 1023 00:48:15,440 --> 00:48:18,560 Speaker 1: connections with the other Wizard of Oz characters. There's also 1024 00:48:18,600 --> 00:48:20,759 Speaker 1: going to be a couple new songs in this movie 1025 00:48:20,800 --> 00:48:23,840 Speaker 1: that were not featured in the play, which really to me, 1026 00:48:24,000 --> 00:48:25,719 Speaker 1: all of these songs are going to be new because 1027 00:48:25,760 --> 00:48:28,160 Speaker 1: I haven't seen any of them. I am familiar with 1028 00:48:28,200 --> 00:48:31,239 Speaker 1: the couple just because Dina Menzel and Kristin Chenowith made 1029 00:48:31,239 --> 00:48:34,200 Speaker 1: those so famous that I remember those cutting over it 1030 00:48:34,280 --> 00:48:37,279 Speaker 1: into the mainstream. But still nothing from Wicked is really 1031 00:48:37,360 --> 00:48:40,560 Speaker 1: cemented in my head of knowing all of the story's elements. 1032 00:48:40,840 --> 00:48:43,680 Speaker 1: So really what resonates with me from this trailer is 1033 00:48:43,719 --> 00:48:46,319 Speaker 1: there are a lot of shots that are odes to 1034 00:48:46,400 --> 00:48:50,120 Speaker 1: the original movie, everything from the flying monkeys crashing out 1035 00:48:50,120 --> 00:48:53,120 Speaker 1: of the glass window to even the framing on some 1036 00:48:53,200 --> 00:48:55,560 Speaker 1: of these shots on Glinda coming down in the bubble 1037 00:48:55,800 --> 00:48:58,040 Speaker 1: or the Wicked Witch of the West having that same 1038 00:48:58,120 --> 00:49:01,440 Speaker 1: kind of profile look in this tray as well, it 1039 00:49:01,480 --> 00:49:04,640 Speaker 1: looks like they are very much playing into the cinematography 1040 00:49:05,080 --> 00:49:08,040 Speaker 1: that made the nineteen thirty nine version so memorable and 1041 00:49:08,120 --> 00:49:10,520 Speaker 1: so iconic. And again, I think what is going to 1042 00:49:10,600 --> 00:49:13,720 Speaker 1: really make this movie is the incredible cast that they landed. 1043 00:49:14,000 --> 00:49:17,320 Speaker 1: Cynthia Arrivo plays the Wicked Witch of the West, Ariana 1044 00:49:17,360 --> 00:49:21,560 Speaker 1: Grande plays Glinda, Michelle Yao plays Madame Morrible. Jeff Goldbloom 1045 00:49:21,680 --> 00:49:24,640 Speaker 1: is the wonderful Wizard of Oz. Jonathan Bailey is a 1046 00:49:24,680 --> 00:49:28,120 Speaker 1: prince who meets Alphaba and Glinda at school. Ethan Slater 1047 00:49:28,280 --> 00:49:31,080 Speaker 1: plays a munchkin who is in love with Glinda. Bowen 1048 00:49:31,160 --> 00:49:34,520 Speaker 1: Yang plays one of Glinda's college friends. So it is 1049 00:49:34,600 --> 00:49:37,640 Speaker 1: interesting that they are splitting this movie into two. I 1050 00:49:37,680 --> 00:49:40,120 Speaker 1: am hoping it's because whenever they tried to tell the 1051 00:49:40,160 --> 00:49:43,160 Speaker 1: story in one, they decided, Oh, there's actually a lot 1052 00:49:43,200 --> 00:49:45,680 Speaker 1: more of the story to tell, and not a case of, oh, 1053 00:49:46,000 --> 00:49:48,799 Speaker 1: we could probably get more out of this movie. We 1054 00:49:49,280 --> 00:49:51,719 Speaker 1: unfairly split it into two and make people wait a 1055 00:49:51,800 --> 00:49:54,879 Speaker 1: year and get their ticket money again on the back end. 1056 00:49:55,120 --> 00:49:57,799 Speaker 1: Hopefully that is not the case. I also thought it 1057 00:49:57,840 --> 00:50:01,080 Speaker 1: was cool that there is a scene where you see Dorothy, 1058 00:50:01,600 --> 00:50:05,360 Speaker 1: the tin Man, the Cowardly Lion, and the Scarecrow for 1059 00:50:05,440 --> 00:50:08,560 Speaker 1: like a mere second. It's kind of them walking and 1060 00:50:08,560 --> 00:50:10,680 Speaker 1: it panning in behind them as they're walking up to 1061 00:50:10,680 --> 00:50:13,960 Speaker 1: meet the Wizard of Oz. Which with the little research 1062 00:50:14,000 --> 00:50:17,040 Speaker 1: that I did, a lot of people were upset about 1063 00:50:17,080 --> 00:50:20,280 Speaker 1: that because, again, as I understood it, it's a prequel 1064 00:50:20,360 --> 00:50:23,959 Speaker 1: long before Dorothy gets there, So is that a way 1065 00:50:24,000 --> 00:50:26,759 Speaker 1: to bait people into thinking that Dorothy is going to 1066 00:50:26,760 --> 00:50:28,920 Speaker 1: be in this movie, who or maybe like me, not 1067 00:50:29,000 --> 00:50:32,520 Speaker 1: too familiar with it. Also, when the description of Part 1068 00:50:32,560 --> 00:50:34,560 Speaker 1: one and two, they are saying that part of the 1069 00:50:34,600 --> 00:50:38,120 Speaker 1: movie may take place after Dorothy's arrival, which I don't 1070 00:50:38,160 --> 00:50:42,400 Speaker 1: believe is in Wicked. So some true hardcore fans are 1071 00:50:42,440 --> 00:50:44,680 Speaker 1: probably a little bit upset about that, But for me, 1072 00:50:45,440 --> 00:50:48,480 Speaker 1: I would love to see at least just a little 1073 00:50:48,560 --> 00:50:50,960 Speaker 1: hint of that as long as it doesn't take away 1074 00:50:51,000 --> 00:50:53,200 Speaker 1: from the integrity of the story. I just think the 1075 00:50:53,200 --> 00:50:56,000 Speaker 1: fact that it has been eighty five years and it's 1076 00:50:56,000 --> 00:50:58,400 Speaker 1: coming out in the year of that anniversary is a 1077 00:50:58,440 --> 00:51:01,720 Speaker 1: pretty big deal, and if it's just a small little 1078 00:51:01,840 --> 00:51:05,719 Speaker 1: glimpse of it, nothing too overstated, doesn't take away at 1079 00:51:05,760 --> 00:51:08,880 Speaker 1: all from the legacy of Judy Garland, who deserves to 1080 00:51:08,880 --> 00:51:12,360 Speaker 1: be remembered forever as Dorothy Gaale. I think I'm okay 1081 00:51:12,400 --> 00:51:15,640 Speaker 1: with it again. This movie is coming out this Thanksgiving, 1082 00:51:15,680 --> 00:51:18,600 Speaker 1: with Part two coming out next Thanksgiving. I think this 1083 00:51:18,640 --> 00:51:20,640 Speaker 1: will be a movie that's gonna crush at the box 1084 00:51:20,680 --> 00:51:23,680 Speaker 1: office and definitely warrants the big screen at that. 1085 00:51:23,760 --> 00:51:26,319 Speaker 2: For was this week's edition of movie. 1086 00:51:26,000 --> 00:51:28,840 Speaker 1: Line Framer Bar and that is going to do it 1087 00:51:28,880 --> 00:51:31,520 Speaker 1: for another episode here of the podcast, but before I go, 1088 00:51:31,560 --> 00:51:33,680 Speaker 1: I gotta give my listeners shout out of the week. 1089 00:51:33,960 --> 00:51:36,160 Speaker 1: And last week we had an interview with Paul King, 1090 00:51:36,280 --> 00:51:38,960 Speaker 1: the director of Wonka. If you miss that, just go 1091 00:51:39,080 --> 00:51:41,920 Speaker 1: back one in the feed and listen to that full interview. 1092 00:51:42,160 --> 00:51:45,120 Speaker 1: You can also watch it on my YouTube channel YouTube 1093 00:51:45,120 --> 00:51:48,000 Speaker 1: dot com slash Mike Distro. You can always find all 1094 00:51:48,040 --> 00:51:51,239 Speaker 1: those links in the episode notes of every single podcast. 1095 00:51:51,520 --> 00:51:53,960 Speaker 1: But every time we have an interview, I always give 1096 00:51:53,960 --> 00:51:56,440 Speaker 1: a secret emoji. All you have to do is comment 1097 00:51:56,480 --> 00:52:00,000 Speaker 1: with that emoji on Facebook, TikTok or Instagram or Twist, 1098 00:52:00,400 --> 00:52:02,239 Speaker 1: and I'll pick one of those comments to be next 1099 00:52:02,239 --> 00:52:05,040 Speaker 1: week's listener shout out. So this week I'm going over 1100 00:52:05,080 --> 00:52:08,000 Speaker 1: to Facebook and the shout out goes to Denise Watson, 1101 00:52:08,040 --> 00:52:11,000 Speaker 1: who left the comment with the chocolate emoji and said, 1102 00:52:11,040 --> 00:52:13,200 Speaker 1: great job, Mike. I love hearing you geek out when 1103 00:52:13,239 --> 00:52:15,560 Speaker 1: you do some of these interviews. It reminds me that 1104 00:52:15,600 --> 00:52:18,080 Speaker 1: you are a real fan, just like I am. Thank 1105 00:52:18,120 --> 00:52:21,120 Speaker 1: you Denise for that comment. And I think primarily when 1106 00:52:21,160 --> 00:52:24,000 Speaker 1: I do interviews now, I don't do them a whole lot. 1107 00:52:24,120 --> 00:52:26,600 Speaker 1: I like to do them when I'm really passionate or 1108 00:52:26,640 --> 00:52:30,000 Speaker 1: a big fan of the project or the person, And 1109 00:52:30,040 --> 00:52:32,080 Speaker 1: I think that's because I owe it to you guys 1110 00:52:32,160 --> 00:52:35,400 Speaker 1: to do interviews that I'm actually looking forward to do, 1111 00:52:35,920 --> 00:52:39,480 Speaker 1: asking questions that I genuinely want to know the answer to, 1112 00:52:39,600 --> 00:52:41,839 Speaker 1: and not just doing interviews for the sake of doing 1113 00:52:41,920 --> 00:52:43,960 Speaker 1: interviews for somebody to promote a movie that I really 1114 00:52:44,000 --> 00:52:46,640 Speaker 1: don't care about. I think when that is the case, 1115 00:52:46,840 --> 00:52:50,799 Speaker 1: everybody wins. Whoever is promoting their movie, they get the 1116 00:52:50,840 --> 00:52:54,840 Speaker 1: great promotion of somebody actually asking questions that other fans 1117 00:52:54,880 --> 00:52:56,800 Speaker 1: would want to know. I get a lot out of 1118 00:52:56,840 --> 00:52:59,040 Speaker 1: it because I feel like I'm able to form a 1119 00:52:59,040 --> 00:53:01,560 Speaker 1: better connection with pe people who I'm actually a fan 1120 00:53:01,640 --> 00:53:03,800 Speaker 1: of their work. And then for you guys, I think 1121 00:53:04,040 --> 00:53:07,200 Speaker 1: that is the best quality that comes through the podcast 1122 00:53:07,239 --> 00:53:11,080 Speaker 1: of hearing a genuine conversation between two people who actually 1123 00:53:11,640 --> 00:53:14,640 Speaker 1: have some respect for each other. So thank you Denise 1124 00:53:14,719 --> 00:53:17,719 Speaker 1: for hearing that come through in the interviews. That is 1125 00:53:17,760 --> 00:53:20,040 Speaker 1: always my goal here, So thank you. You're this week's 1126 00:53:20,080 --> 00:53:22,520 Speaker 1: listener shout out of the week. Thanks to everybody. Hope 1127 00:53:22,560 --> 00:53:24,320 Speaker 1: you have a great rest of your week, and until 1128 00:53:24,360 --> 00:53:26,840 Speaker 1: next time, go out and watch good movies. And I 1129 00:53:26,880 --> 00:53:28,440 Speaker 1: will talk to you later.