1 00:00:01,240 --> 00:00:03,280 Speaker 1: I did the things that nobody wanted to do. You know, 2 00:00:03,360 --> 00:00:05,360 Speaker 1: nobody wanted to run down at the file and hit 3 00:00:05,440 --> 00:00:08,039 Speaker 1: the fox Man waves. Nobody wanted to be the center 4 00:00:08,039 --> 00:00:10,479 Speaker 1: on kid Re turn. I'll do it, and they're looking 5 00:00:10,480 --> 00:00:12,600 Speaker 1: at my wells and now I'll do it. They say no, 6 00:00:12,680 --> 00:00:16,160 Speaker 1: I get my agent caused me like Baltimore. First thing, 7 00:00:16,160 --> 00:00:19,720 Speaker 1: got the whole of every Ray Lewis, I'm going to Baltimore. 8 00:00:20,520 --> 00:00:24,200 Speaker 1: If you're not contributing on defense offense, you better be 9 00:00:24,239 --> 00:00:28,040 Speaker 1: a heck of a specialist. But what's next for Anthony Levin? 10 00:00:29,200 --> 00:00:34,600 Speaker 1: Welcome into the Lounge presented by DraftKings. We are going 11 00:00:34,680 --> 00:00:37,680 Speaker 1: through off season, though now obviously from our last podcast, 12 00:00:37,680 --> 00:00:39,800 Speaker 1: having a lot of off season discussions, but part of 13 00:00:39,840 --> 00:00:42,400 Speaker 1: the off season and really what kind of where it 14 00:00:42,440 --> 00:00:45,760 Speaker 1: starts is players deciding whether they're going to continue to 15 00:00:45,800 --> 00:00:48,920 Speaker 1: play or hang them up. And we have one of 16 00:00:48,920 --> 00:00:51,960 Speaker 1: our favorite guys on today to make that announcement that 17 00:00:52,000 --> 00:00:55,360 Speaker 1: he is retiring from the league, and that is co 18 00:00:55,600 --> 00:00:59,840 Speaker 1: cap Anthony Levine Sr. He's decided that this is the 19 00:01:00,080 --> 00:01:04,160 Speaker 1: end for him after a long and illustrious career as 20 00:01:04,160 --> 00:01:07,600 Speaker 1: a special team's ace. So we are having him on 21 00:01:07,720 --> 00:01:10,720 Speaker 1: the talk. Uh, it's it's really gonna be a treat. Yeah. 22 00:01:10,880 --> 00:01:13,760 Speaker 1: Over the past decade, I mean, Anthony Levine has been 23 00:01:13,800 --> 00:01:16,760 Speaker 1: a really important player on the special teams unit. That 24 00:01:17,120 --> 00:01:20,520 Speaker 1: is the obvious piece, But what people don't necessarily see 25 00:01:21,280 --> 00:01:23,360 Speaker 1: is all that he does behind the scenes, and and 26 00:01:23,400 --> 00:01:26,240 Speaker 1: it's been kind of cool to see him over the 27 00:01:26,280 --> 00:01:28,880 Speaker 1: course of his career go from a guy who was 28 00:01:29,360 --> 00:01:31,640 Speaker 1: trying to make the team and earned a spot to 29 00:01:31,800 --> 00:01:35,560 Speaker 1: becoming a really important core special teamer too. In the 30 00:01:35,640 --> 00:01:37,520 Speaker 1: later years of his career, I think he was viewed 31 00:01:37,520 --> 00:01:39,520 Speaker 1: as a leader of this team as a whole, not 32 00:01:39,680 --> 00:01:41,560 Speaker 1: just a special teams group. But he was somebody that 33 00:01:41,560 --> 00:01:44,240 Speaker 1: I'll think a lot of young people look to um 34 00:01:44,360 --> 00:01:46,120 Speaker 1: for advice and guidance, and he took a lot of 35 00:01:46,200 --> 00:01:48,280 Speaker 1: young guys under his wing. I also think that he 36 00:01:48,320 --> 00:01:52,000 Speaker 1: was important and kind of passing on the tradition of 37 00:01:52,080 --> 00:01:54,720 Speaker 1: Ravens football. You know, if you talk about the foundation 38 00:01:54,760 --> 00:01:58,240 Speaker 1: of Ravens football, you're talking about Ray Lewis and Ed 39 00:01:58,320 --> 00:02:01,200 Speaker 1: Reid and Terrell Suggs and Heloti Notaa and guys that 40 00:02:01,360 --> 00:02:03,920 Speaker 1: sort of established that culture. Well, there's not too many 41 00:02:03,920 --> 00:02:06,280 Speaker 1: players who have played with those guys anymore. It's just 42 00:02:06,360 --> 00:02:09,080 Speaker 1: not I mean, time has passed and the number of 43 00:02:09,120 --> 00:02:13,120 Speaker 1: players who took the field with Ray Lewis is few 44 00:02:13,120 --> 00:02:15,880 Speaker 1: and far between. And Anthony Levin is one of those guys. 45 00:02:16,360 --> 00:02:18,680 Speaker 1: And I think that he helps kind of pass down 46 00:02:18,720 --> 00:02:22,360 Speaker 1: that culture to the younger players, who are you know, 47 00:02:22,360 --> 00:02:24,600 Speaker 1: who are going to be really significant in this organization 48 00:02:24,919 --> 00:02:27,520 Speaker 1: in the coming years. Yep, so let's jump into that 49 00:02:27,560 --> 00:02:31,720 Speaker 1: interview with Anthony Levin SR. We're thrilled to be joined 50 00:02:31,720 --> 00:02:35,880 Speaker 1: by Anthony Levine a k A co Cap who is 51 00:02:35,919 --> 00:02:39,320 Speaker 1: going into retirement. This is a sad day, folks. When 52 00:02:39,320 --> 00:02:43,959 Speaker 1: co Cap hangs it up, the Ravens nation grieves. How 53 00:02:44,000 --> 00:02:47,200 Speaker 1: how are you feeling about this decision? Man? As bitter sweet? 54 00:02:47,360 --> 00:02:50,520 Speaker 1: As bitter sweet? Um, you know, I never thought that 55 00:02:50,520 --> 00:02:54,160 Speaker 1: I would not be playing football. Um so down to 56 00:02:54,200 --> 00:02:56,440 Speaker 1: be going into the next chilp that my life and 57 00:02:56,520 --> 00:02:59,800 Speaker 1: knowing out I never played football again, you know, it's 58 00:03:00,000 --> 00:03:02,400 Speaker 1: I'm like, oh man, I never play football again. I 59 00:03:02,480 --> 00:03:06,920 Speaker 1: was playing football since I was you know, twelve, and 60 00:03:07,000 --> 00:03:09,720 Speaker 1: now to not ever play again, it's kind of like, 61 00:03:09,760 --> 00:03:12,560 Speaker 1: oh man, I know, pluggin that's crazy. But it's it's 62 00:03:12,600 --> 00:03:14,120 Speaker 1: been a sweet man and I get to spend more 63 00:03:14,120 --> 00:03:16,280 Speaker 1: time with my family. I get to relax, you know, 64 00:03:16,320 --> 00:03:18,720 Speaker 1: I ain't gotta go out there and uh run these 65 00:03:18,760 --> 00:03:23,920 Speaker 1: gases and all that to my body anymore. So now 66 00:03:24,000 --> 00:03:26,960 Speaker 1: it's been a sweet man. They'll never say never, you said, 67 00:03:26,960 --> 00:03:28,919 Speaker 1: you see Eric Weddell coming back, you know, trying to 68 00:03:28,960 --> 00:03:32,000 Speaker 1: win a ring. You know, never say never. Hey, I 69 00:03:32,000 --> 00:03:36,960 Speaker 1: didn't had two great experiences, um with with my guy 70 00:03:37,040 --> 00:03:39,640 Speaker 1: deal trying to do and hopefully you know they'll be 71 00:03:39,680 --> 00:03:45,080 Speaker 1: able to do it. But now, man, I'm nah, he's done. 72 00:03:45,680 --> 00:03:48,240 Speaker 1: When uh, when did you come to this decision? I mean, 73 00:03:48,360 --> 00:03:50,560 Speaker 1: is this something that has kind of been on your 74 00:03:50,560 --> 00:03:53,120 Speaker 1: mind for a while. Was there a date that you said, 75 00:03:53,160 --> 00:03:55,360 Speaker 1: all right, it's it's official, this is gonna be my 76 00:03:55,440 --> 00:03:59,800 Speaker 1: last year. Well, I had a goal, um once I 77 00:04:00,000 --> 00:04:03,480 Speaker 1: as I became like co cop, I was like, you 78 00:04:03,480 --> 00:04:05,960 Speaker 1: know what, man, I think my next goal. I was 79 00:04:06,000 --> 00:04:07,640 Speaker 1: wanna I want to be able to play ten years 80 00:04:08,320 --> 00:04:10,280 Speaker 1: um with the Ravens. I want, you know, I could 81 00:04:10,280 --> 00:04:12,760 Speaker 1: play ten years in this great organization. You know, I've 82 00:04:12,800 --> 00:04:16,000 Speaker 1: accomplished something that not a lot of people have has accomplished, 83 00:04:16,040 --> 00:04:18,120 Speaker 1: you know. And then a few weeks ago, you know, 84 00:04:18,160 --> 00:04:20,680 Speaker 1: I was talking to my little brother and I threw 85 00:04:20,720 --> 00:04:23,160 Speaker 1: it out there like, man, I might retire, and man, 86 00:04:23,160 --> 00:04:25,320 Speaker 1: he got excited. Man, Like my little brother got resided. 87 00:04:25,360 --> 00:04:28,279 Speaker 1: I'm thirty four, my little brother thirty three. He got excited. 88 00:04:28,279 --> 00:04:30,440 Speaker 1: He's like, well, you're gonna retalk. Yes, man, congratulation, you 89 00:04:30,440 --> 00:04:32,680 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. So everybody that was like, oh man, 90 00:04:32,680 --> 00:04:35,120 Speaker 1: I wasn't expecting him to do that. And when he 91 00:04:35,200 --> 00:04:39,000 Speaker 1: did that, that made it comforting and you know, made 92 00:04:39,040 --> 00:04:41,719 Speaker 1: me feel like, you know what, Yeah, like I have 93 00:04:41,920 --> 00:04:44,880 Speaker 1: done some stuff and I have beat the eyes and 94 00:04:45,680 --> 00:04:48,200 Speaker 1: insight to return. So that's when it kind of just 95 00:04:48,279 --> 00:04:50,640 Speaker 1: really like, you know what, yeah, man, is it now? 96 00:04:50,760 --> 00:04:54,560 Speaker 1: Now you have kids? What was the family reaction? Alright? Man, 97 00:04:54,600 --> 00:04:57,840 Speaker 1: my kids, my kids was after the last game. You know, 98 00:04:57,880 --> 00:05:00,440 Speaker 1: we were riding back home and I I know, Dad 99 00:05:00,440 --> 00:05:07,000 Speaker 1: ain't been playing football anymore, right, and there wasn't There 100 00:05:07,080 --> 00:05:08,680 Speaker 1: wasn't like I thought they would kind of like be 101 00:05:08,720 --> 00:05:11,000 Speaker 1: bombed out, you know, but they wasn't. You know, my 102 00:05:11,000 --> 00:05:13,320 Speaker 1: my kids, Man, it was it that that was excited 103 00:05:13,360 --> 00:05:16,640 Speaker 1: and my whole family, my whole family was excited. Um man, 104 00:05:16,680 --> 00:05:19,400 Speaker 1: it was it was great. You know, Like I said, man, 105 00:05:19,440 --> 00:05:21,800 Speaker 1: my family and putting the pressure on me then then 106 00:05:21,880 --> 00:05:24,400 Speaker 1: push me so now I don't do it, don't do it. 107 00:05:24,480 --> 00:05:27,000 Speaker 1: My family was just like, you know, like great, like 108 00:05:27,360 --> 00:05:30,479 Speaker 1: you know you you've accomplished a lot. You know, you 109 00:05:30,480 --> 00:05:32,880 Speaker 1: you've done things that nobody thought you be able to do. 110 00:05:33,560 --> 00:05:35,880 Speaker 1: So man, it was, it was, it was. It was 111 00:05:35,920 --> 00:05:38,680 Speaker 1: easy decision for me. No anything. I know. I know 112 00:05:38,839 --> 00:05:41,200 Speaker 1: you've You've inspired me as a father because I've seen 113 00:05:41,240 --> 00:05:42,960 Speaker 1: some of your videos. If you're putting on mask and 114 00:05:43,000 --> 00:05:47,159 Speaker 1: scaring the trap out of your kids, your children, that 115 00:05:47,360 --> 00:05:49,760 Speaker 1: is inspirational stuff. So now they can look forward to 116 00:05:49,800 --> 00:05:52,320 Speaker 1: a lot more of that, I guess, man, most definitely 117 00:05:52,360 --> 00:05:55,320 Speaker 1: man like now, like you know what, Man, you know, 118 00:05:55,400 --> 00:05:56,960 Speaker 1: I go out and I hang all my kids. We 119 00:05:57,080 --> 00:06:01,960 Speaker 1: play and I don't really play video games. Like last 120 00:06:01,960 --> 00:06:04,200 Speaker 1: when I played video games, my my oldest boy was 121 00:06:04,760 --> 00:06:08,000 Speaker 1: like two maybe three, and I haven't played video games. 122 00:06:08,000 --> 00:06:11,600 Speaker 1: And lately, like we were this video Can't Call Injustice 123 00:06:12,080 --> 00:06:14,960 Speaker 1: Tour Us Home and uh, the fighting game. We played 124 00:06:14,960 --> 00:06:16,960 Speaker 1: that all the time. Now and I'm up there, I'm 125 00:06:17,000 --> 00:06:19,720 Speaker 1: mostly playing the video game and then we're hanging out, 126 00:06:19,760 --> 00:06:22,440 Speaker 1: we're kicking it, you know. Usually man, I'm tired, I 127 00:06:22,520 --> 00:06:25,240 Speaker 1: try and go play. I fought asleep while playing the game, 128 00:06:25,800 --> 00:06:28,039 Speaker 1: you know. And now, man, now I got I got 129 00:06:28,080 --> 00:06:30,480 Speaker 1: a lot of energy that could put and to my 130 00:06:30,600 --> 00:06:33,360 Speaker 1: kids and to my family. And it's like, you know what, man, 131 00:06:33,440 --> 00:06:35,760 Speaker 1: this is this is awesome. Like my kids get to 132 00:06:35,760 --> 00:06:38,240 Speaker 1: see me, like, you know what I'm saying. So it's 133 00:06:38,480 --> 00:06:41,279 Speaker 1: it's good, man, It's cool. So I think I'm the 134 00:06:41,360 --> 00:06:44,320 Speaker 1: last game. After that Steelers game, I was kind of 135 00:06:44,320 --> 00:06:47,320 Speaker 1: watching at the end and you and Justin Houston and 136 00:06:47,400 --> 00:06:50,280 Speaker 1: Colas Campbell we're kind of just coming together on the 137 00:06:50,320 --> 00:06:53,680 Speaker 1: bench before you walk into the locker room and having conversations, 138 00:06:53,760 --> 00:06:56,359 Speaker 1: and you know, I was looking at it and I'm like, 139 00:06:56,440 --> 00:06:59,520 Speaker 1: those are guys right there that who knows, um, you know, 140 00:06:59,560 --> 00:07:02,360 Speaker 1: you're vetter and players and and who knows what the 141 00:07:02,400 --> 00:07:05,280 Speaker 1: future holds at that time. What was kind of going 142 00:07:05,279 --> 00:07:08,520 Speaker 1: through your mind at that point, knowing that that was 143 00:07:08,560 --> 00:07:10,720 Speaker 1: your last game and you're walking off and kind of 144 00:07:10,720 --> 00:07:12,960 Speaker 1: the emotions of all that. Man, what I was trying 145 00:07:12,960 --> 00:07:15,480 Speaker 1: to do, my trying to save at the moment um 146 00:07:15,560 --> 00:07:17,920 Speaker 1: I was about to I'm I'm looking around the stadium, 147 00:07:18,000 --> 00:07:20,200 Speaker 1: I'm looking at the fans, I'm looking at my teammates. 148 00:07:20,640 --> 00:07:23,040 Speaker 1: I'm looking at the other side and I'm just like, man, 149 00:07:23,960 --> 00:07:27,679 Speaker 1: this is it. And now look over and I see 150 00:07:28,480 --> 00:07:31,600 Speaker 1: all those guys you name, and I see McPhee, I 151 00:07:31,680 --> 00:07:34,680 Speaker 1: if he's sitting there, and he laughing and he's smiling, 152 00:07:34,760 --> 00:07:37,600 Speaker 1: and he's just like, man, he's looking up. And I 153 00:07:37,680 --> 00:07:40,000 Speaker 1: go and I sit down with them, and I'm just 154 00:07:40,040 --> 00:07:42,560 Speaker 1: looking like, man, bro, this is it. Bro. And then 155 00:07:42,600 --> 00:07:44,320 Speaker 1: we just you know, we we we had a moment, 156 00:07:44,400 --> 00:07:47,680 Speaker 1: you know, and uh but it was like, man, nope, man, 157 00:07:48,040 --> 00:07:51,240 Speaker 1: I have no regrets. Man, like I've done everything that 158 00:07:51,560 --> 00:07:55,000 Speaker 1: everything in my power um to to be the person 159 00:07:55,040 --> 00:07:57,600 Speaker 1: and player that I am today. And we were just 160 00:07:57,640 --> 00:07:59,840 Speaker 1: saving in that moment, just talking to each other, like 161 00:08:00,080 --> 00:08:02,560 Speaker 1: knowing that that this is I know for sure, this 162 00:08:02,640 --> 00:08:05,680 Speaker 1: is me. This is my last. You know. I can't 163 00:08:05,720 --> 00:08:08,560 Speaker 1: speak for everybody else, but for me, I know this 164 00:08:08,600 --> 00:08:09,840 Speaker 1: is my last. And I just wanted to say with 165 00:08:09,920 --> 00:08:12,520 Speaker 1: a moment with the guys and you know, and man, 166 00:08:12,520 --> 00:08:16,120 Speaker 1: it was. It was special. So when you're looking at 167 00:08:16,160 --> 00:08:20,200 Speaker 1: your career here, you know, we go to reminiscing time here. Okay, 168 00:08:20,400 --> 00:08:24,120 Speaker 1: So when you're looking back at your career and uh, 169 00:08:24,160 --> 00:08:27,200 Speaker 1: you know, let's you know, flash forward, you know, forty 170 00:08:27,240 --> 00:08:29,480 Speaker 1: years and you're sitting there and you got you know, 171 00:08:29,680 --> 00:08:32,480 Speaker 1: you're telling the grandkids of stories and you're talking about, 172 00:08:32,559 --> 00:08:34,719 Speaker 1: you know, Grandpa used to play in the NFL. Let 173 00:08:34,720 --> 00:08:37,360 Speaker 1: me tell you a story. Kids gather around. What's the 174 00:08:37,400 --> 00:08:39,640 Speaker 1: first story you're telling them? Wait? Wait? Can I predict? 175 00:08:39,679 --> 00:08:44,760 Speaker 1: Can I make a prediction? Okay, I'm going Cleveland Brown's 176 00:08:45,040 --> 00:08:49,680 Speaker 1: winning the division, closing them out? M is that? It 177 00:08:49,760 --> 00:08:53,000 Speaker 1: is that it? You know what. That's definitely gonna be 178 00:08:53,000 --> 00:08:57,560 Speaker 1: one of the stories. But not. But honestly, that's like 179 00:08:57,600 --> 00:09:01,040 Speaker 1: one a one b Okay, all hit me? And my 180 00:09:01,040 --> 00:09:03,680 Speaker 1: my first story that I'm probably gonna tell my kids 181 00:09:04,559 --> 00:09:08,559 Speaker 1: is um because the model around here now not a 182 00:09:08,640 --> 00:09:11,760 Speaker 1: raven until you make a player against the stealers, right, 183 00:09:12,520 --> 00:09:16,920 Speaker 1: So that my my first story. I'm gonna tell him that. UM. 184 00:09:17,040 --> 00:09:19,000 Speaker 1: Me and Chuck, Me and Chuck Clark. We're sitting on 185 00:09:19,000 --> 00:09:21,800 Speaker 1: the Gatorway coolers that you know, that's where I'm sitting 186 00:09:21,840 --> 00:09:24,240 Speaker 1: on the game and Chuck with him beside me, and 187 00:09:24,280 --> 00:09:27,800 Speaker 1: we're playing the stealers UM at Hinsfield and I look 188 00:09:27,840 --> 00:09:29,920 Speaker 1: at him, I'm like, boh, I never made a play 189 00:09:29,960 --> 00:09:32,960 Speaker 1: in the Steller's game. I gotta make a play. And 190 00:09:33,000 --> 00:09:34,240 Speaker 1: he looked at me and I was just like, we'll 191 00:09:34,280 --> 00:09:37,439 Speaker 1: go make a play. And I'm like, you know what, 192 00:09:37,640 --> 00:09:40,679 Speaker 1: I'm gonna make a play. And I go out there 193 00:09:40,720 --> 00:09:44,600 Speaker 1: and I picked up Ben Roethlisberger to uh to set 194 00:09:44,679 --> 00:09:47,280 Speaker 1: the game for the win. Um, I could have had 195 00:09:47,640 --> 00:09:49,719 Speaker 1: like three pigs that game. They say too pigs, but 196 00:09:49,840 --> 00:09:52,920 Speaker 1: definitely too I dropped the second but that that that 197 00:09:52,960 --> 00:09:56,280 Speaker 1: would definitely be to my very first story. Um that 198 00:09:56,320 --> 00:09:58,560 Speaker 1: I'll tell him about about me playing out with mindough. 199 00:09:58,960 --> 00:10:00,920 Speaker 1: All right, now, now we gotta hear your version. We 200 00:10:01,000 --> 00:10:03,199 Speaker 1: gotta hear your version of the Brown story. Go ahead, 201 00:10:03,440 --> 00:10:07,320 Speaker 1: well the Brown the Brown story. I think, Um, offense 202 00:10:07,400 --> 00:10:08,960 Speaker 1: were like three and now the something. So we got 203 00:10:09,080 --> 00:10:11,480 Speaker 1: a point, so now we gotta point. So I'm thinking, okay, 204 00:10:11,480 --> 00:10:13,360 Speaker 1: we gotta we gotta pen them. We gotta put them down. 205 00:10:14,000 --> 00:10:16,960 Speaker 1: So when we punt you on the pp So after 206 00:10:17,040 --> 00:10:20,640 Speaker 1: we punt, I like, I beat on straight down the field. Matter. 207 00:10:20,760 --> 00:10:22,400 Speaker 1: I told couch Hard this story because she was like, 208 00:10:22,440 --> 00:10:24,200 Speaker 1: you made these points that now I made four plays 209 00:10:24,640 --> 00:10:28,040 Speaker 1: because I made the play on point. So I run 210 00:10:28,120 --> 00:10:30,160 Speaker 1: down on point and you know he tried to do something, 211 00:10:30,200 --> 00:10:31,800 Speaker 1: but you know, I made the tackle, so we packed 212 00:10:31,840 --> 00:10:35,559 Speaker 1: him down and the whole sequence was kind of like 213 00:10:35,800 --> 00:10:38,280 Speaker 1: it was kind of weird, uh because when we get 214 00:10:38,320 --> 00:10:42,040 Speaker 1: down to those last players that you're talking about, it 215 00:10:42,200 --> 00:10:45,480 Speaker 1: was a boot a Booth review, so they were saying, 216 00:10:45,520 --> 00:10:48,280 Speaker 1: if land you caught the bottom knock. So the whole 217 00:10:48,360 --> 00:10:51,520 Speaker 1: time then the formation, I'm I'm I'm standing right there 218 00:10:51,559 --> 00:10:54,520 Speaker 1: in from the tight end and the tight end and 219 00:10:54,600 --> 00:10:57,600 Speaker 1: he's like six five or something, you know, the tall guy, 220 00:10:58,480 --> 00:11:01,480 Speaker 1: and he's like looking at me like like this thing 221 00:11:01,520 --> 00:11:04,680 Speaker 1: I got on me, like for real, and I see 222 00:11:04,840 --> 00:11:07,120 Speaker 1: I see Coach Harps and the ref kind of like 223 00:11:07,360 --> 00:11:09,800 Speaker 1: going back and forth, and I'm looking at them, and 224 00:11:09,840 --> 00:11:12,520 Speaker 1: I look back at the tight end and that's when 225 00:11:12,559 --> 00:11:13,800 Speaker 1: he's kind of like look at me, like give me 226 00:11:13,880 --> 00:11:15,720 Speaker 1: this look like and he got kind of like smirt 227 00:11:15,920 --> 00:11:18,120 Speaker 1: but I felt like he's smirked. I probably my Michael 228 00:11:18,200 --> 00:11:20,199 Speaker 1: Jordan stuff, but I felt like he smirked at me, 229 00:11:20,640 --> 00:11:23,720 Speaker 1: you know. And but then like he looked at Baker 230 00:11:23,800 --> 00:11:25,839 Speaker 1: and then so I look at Baker and they kind 231 00:11:25,840 --> 00:11:28,560 Speaker 1: of like had a little moment. So I'm like, oh, 232 00:11:28,600 --> 00:11:30,000 Speaker 1: he thinks you're about to just go crazy on me 233 00:11:30,120 --> 00:11:32,199 Speaker 1: right now? All right, bet so that that they're like 234 00:11:32,320 --> 00:11:35,920 Speaker 1: few of me, I'm like, okay, okay, So I make 235 00:11:35,960 --> 00:11:38,199 Speaker 1: a long story short. The first play, they throw the 236 00:11:38,240 --> 00:11:41,280 Speaker 1: ball to him, Um, you know, I knocking out his 237 00:11:41,360 --> 00:11:44,559 Speaker 1: hand or whatever. And that's when I was turned to 238 00:11:44,640 --> 00:11:47,760 Speaker 1: the sideline because I'm like, I'm hyped. I got all 239 00:11:47,800 --> 00:11:49,520 Speaker 1: this energy because I felt like he was like he 240 00:11:49,640 --> 00:11:51,679 Speaker 1: like he tried me, like like you know what I'm 241 00:11:51,679 --> 00:11:53,080 Speaker 1: about kiss his ball and you So when I knocked 242 00:11:53,120 --> 00:11:54,559 Speaker 1: the ball out, was go through his hands boil. I 243 00:11:54,600 --> 00:11:56,480 Speaker 1: knocked the ball out and I was turned to our 244 00:11:56,600 --> 00:11:59,480 Speaker 1: sideline and I'm like, man, he can't mess with me. 245 00:11:59,600 --> 00:12:03,360 Speaker 1: He came messing me right and uh so then they 246 00:12:03,440 --> 00:12:07,800 Speaker 1: come back and go at him right there like the 247 00:12:07,920 --> 00:12:10,280 Speaker 1: next play. So the first play, he went like a 248 00:12:10,400 --> 00:12:12,880 Speaker 1: little fade the second player want a slant, So I 249 00:12:13,000 --> 00:12:14,599 Speaker 1: break that up. I break the slant up. When I 250 00:12:14,640 --> 00:12:16,480 Speaker 1: bake the stand up, I turned to him like you 251 00:12:16,679 --> 00:12:19,120 Speaker 1: better stop playing with me, like stop trying me out here, 252 00:12:19,240 --> 00:12:23,280 Speaker 1: Like now, what's wrong with y'all? Right now? Um? It 253 00:12:23,440 --> 00:12:27,800 Speaker 1: was like, uh the very last playe the fourth down, Uh, 254 00:12:28,640 --> 00:12:33,160 Speaker 1: something happened with me wet and I want to say, Jimmy, 255 00:12:35,120 --> 00:12:38,040 Speaker 1: And we was all like who are we going? And 256 00:12:38,080 --> 00:12:39,360 Speaker 1: who were going? And I'm looking at man, who do 257 00:12:39,440 --> 00:12:41,480 Speaker 1: we have? Who do we have? And then last second 258 00:12:41,480 --> 00:12:43,439 Speaker 1: I tried to run to the tight end and I 259 00:12:43,559 --> 00:12:45,320 Speaker 1: ran to the tight end. I'm kind of like outflank. 260 00:12:45,360 --> 00:12:48,360 Speaker 1: He kind of got me. Uh, I'm going to the 261 00:12:48,400 --> 00:12:50,760 Speaker 1: inside or whatever. But that's when c J mos and 262 00:12:50,840 --> 00:12:54,240 Speaker 1: man make the man make the pick and said the game. 263 00:12:54,280 --> 00:12:56,079 Speaker 1: So c J get all the credit for that for 264 00:12:56,200 --> 00:12:58,199 Speaker 1: that game. And as he said, you know and c 265 00:12:58,360 --> 00:13:02,040 Speaker 1: J moles they half man half amazing. But but now 266 00:13:02,200 --> 00:13:03,760 Speaker 1: that game right there, man, I think I think that's 267 00:13:03,800 --> 00:13:06,319 Speaker 1: the game, right Dell. That everybody really looked at me. 268 00:13:06,400 --> 00:13:08,520 Speaker 1: I was like, you know what, he's really more than 269 00:13:08,520 --> 00:13:12,200 Speaker 1: the team fell, you know, But that that was probably 270 00:13:12,960 --> 00:13:17,000 Speaker 1: that was probably the biggest moment in my career. But 271 00:13:17,320 --> 00:13:20,719 Speaker 1: I would say for me to be a raven like 272 00:13:20,840 --> 00:13:22,360 Speaker 1: the model round here, to make a plate, to be 273 00:13:22,440 --> 00:13:25,439 Speaker 1: a raven. It was against Steelers, but that whole sequence 274 00:13:25,559 --> 00:13:27,600 Speaker 1: in that game, and that was supposed to go into 275 00:13:27,640 --> 00:13:30,319 Speaker 1: the playoffs two because one of the division you know, 276 00:13:30,480 --> 00:13:34,079 Speaker 1: the stealers, was over there watching the game in hydes Field, 277 00:13:34,679 --> 00:13:37,120 Speaker 1: and everything, so that that was probably one of the biggest, 278 00:13:37,240 --> 00:13:40,640 Speaker 1: biggest moments of my career. That's awesome. Well, I want 279 00:13:40,679 --> 00:13:42,360 Speaker 1: to back up a little bit and go back to 280 00:13:42,400 --> 00:13:45,040 Speaker 1: the start of your career. Came out of Tennessee State 281 00:13:45,280 --> 00:13:49,439 Speaker 1: undrafted in spent two years with the Green Day Packers 282 00:13:49,520 --> 00:13:52,800 Speaker 1: on their practice squad, and just kind of the fight too. 283 00:13:53,320 --> 00:13:55,600 Speaker 1: You know. I feel like not a lot of guys 284 00:13:55,640 --> 00:13:58,200 Speaker 1: obviously spent two years on the practice squad and then 285 00:13:58,360 --> 00:14:01,199 Speaker 1: end up playing the next ten with one team. You know. 286 00:14:01,320 --> 00:14:03,440 Speaker 1: I mean that that doesn't happen all the time. Can 287 00:14:03,480 --> 00:14:06,559 Speaker 1: you just talk about kind of your resolved to to 288 00:14:06,720 --> 00:14:08,880 Speaker 1: hang with it, to stay with it, to keep improving 289 00:14:09,040 --> 00:14:11,959 Speaker 1: as a player, and that enabled you to have such 290 00:14:11,960 --> 00:14:15,760 Speaker 1: a long career. So I kind of started this model yesterday, 291 00:14:15,880 --> 00:14:21,240 Speaker 1: right and then work hard. They said, don't stop. They said, 292 00:14:21,920 --> 00:14:25,800 Speaker 1: he's gonna pay off, they said, right. And because you 293 00:14:25,880 --> 00:14:27,480 Speaker 1: get to the point and it's like, man, I'm doing 294 00:14:27,520 --> 00:14:29,760 Speaker 1: all this work. Man, I'm working so hard, I'm training hard, 295 00:14:30,120 --> 00:14:33,000 Speaker 1: I'm doing everything I can possibly do, and I'm on 296 00:14:33,120 --> 00:14:36,360 Speaker 1: a practice squad, you know. And at the time I 297 00:14:36,480 --> 00:14:39,200 Speaker 1: was on the Package practice squad, I was grateful for 298 00:14:39,240 --> 00:14:40,560 Speaker 1: that I'm just like, you know, where, man, as long 299 00:14:40,560 --> 00:14:42,680 Speaker 1: as I'm not going home, as long as still got 300 00:14:42,720 --> 00:14:44,440 Speaker 1: my foot in the door, I could, you know, I 301 00:14:44,600 --> 00:14:47,080 Speaker 1: keep working to try to make this roster. So I 302 00:14:47,280 --> 00:14:50,640 Speaker 1: was I was pretty um, I was. I was okay 303 00:14:50,680 --> 00:14:55,640 Speaker 1: with that, right, but then um, when like my last 304 00:14:55,720 --> 00:14:58,160 Speaker 1: year there, the last time I was there, last training camp, 305 00:14:58,560 --> 00:15:00,200 Speaker 1: they asked me to come back on that practice why 306 00:15:00,920 --> 00:15:02,720 Speaker 1: it was like they cut me again, asked me to 307 00:15:02,800 --> 00:15:05,120 Speaker 1: come back, and I had a great training account, a 308 00:15:05,280 --> 00:15:08,320 Speaker 1: great train account, and I'm like, nah, you know what, man, 309 00:15:08,840 --> 00:15:11,200 Speaker 1: I'm not coming back on your practice squad. And it 310 00:15:11,360 --> 00:15:14,320 Speaker 1: was like all confused, like everybody was confused. Mr Thompson 311 00:15:14,920 --> 00:15:17,800 Speaker 1: r P or Mr Ted Thompson, Um, he can't talk 312 00:15:17,840 --> 00:15:19,840 Speaker 1: to me because he didn't understand, like why I didn't 313 00:15:19,880 --> 00:15:22,240 Speaker 1: want to come back. And it's not that I didn't 314 00:15:22,280 --> 00:15:24,200 Speaker 1: want to It's not that I didn't want to come back. 315 00:15:24,520 --> 00:15:27,440 Speaker 1: What I felt in my heart was that I gave 316 00:15:27,520 --> 00:15:30,240 Speaker 1: y'all everything I had, everything that I had, I gave 317 00:15:30,320 --> 00:15:35,120 Speaker 1: y'all and I still can't make this team. So because 318 00:15:35,160 --> 00:15:37,160 Speaker 1: I have no regrets about it, I have no regrets. 319 00:15:37,160 --> 00:15:38,720 Speaker 1: And if I can't make this team and it is 320 00:15:38,800 --> 00:15:40,680 Speaker 1: what it is. Right, So I was like, you know 321 00:15:40,760 --> 00:15:45,280 Speaker 1: what our rather, I'm not coming back. Um, I didn't 322 00:15:45,280 --> 00:15:46,760 Speaker 1: know what what what that was gonna do, but I 323 00:15:46,880 --> 00:15:48,520 Speaker 1: was I was fine with that. I was fine with 324 00:15:48,600 --> 00:15:50,600 Speaker 1: that because I gave him all and I knew I 325 00:15:50,720 --> 00:15:52,240 Speaker 1: gave him all, and I knew I deserve to make 326 00:15:52,280 --> 00:15:54,840 Speaker 1: that team and I didn't. And I was like, you 327 00:15:54,920 --> 00:15:56,520 Speaker 1: know what, It's just, it is what it is. So 328 00:15:57,600 --> 00:15:59,440 Speaker 1: I'm sitting now. I'm just I go back to my 329 00:15:59,520 --> 00:16:02,320 Speaker 1: apartment and I'm just like sitting there. They say't no, 330 00:16:02,440 --> 00:16:06,920 Speaker 1: I get my agent caused me like Baltimore. I'm like, 331 00:16:07,280 --> 00:16:10,720 Speaker 1: the first thing I thought, who was every ray Lewis, 332 00:16:10,800 --> 00:16:13,400 Speaker 1: I'm going to Baltimore? And like they had like two 333 00:16:13,560 --> 00:16:15,760 Speaker 1: three other teams that called me too, But I heard 334 00:16:15,840 --> 00:16:18,800 Speaker 1: every ray Lewis That's what That's the first thing I 335 00:16:18,880 --> 00:16:21,480 Speaker 1: thought in your head they were making the call. It 336 00:16:21,520 --> 00:16:24,880 Speaker 1: was ray Lewis being like come to Baltimore. The first thing. 337 00:16:25,000 --> 00:16:26,840 Speaker 1: The first when when I Magine called me and say, yo, 338 00:16:26,880 --> 00:16:29,320 Speaker 1: Baltimore want you, the first thing I thought was every 339 00:16:30,120 --> 00:16:33,320 Speaker 1: ray Lewis, I'm going to Baltimore. Like they want me 340 00:16:33,320 --> 00:16:34,760 Speaker 1: to look at the roster and see, I don't care 341 00:16:34,760 --> 00:16:38,680 Speaker 1: about all that. I'm going by every ray Lewis you know. 342 00:16:38,960 --> 00:16:41,440 Speaker 1: And then but then, man, when I got here, it 343 00:16:41,640 --> 00:16:45,000 Speaker 1: was totally different, Like it was a whole different atmosphere. 344 00:16:45,120 --> 00:16:48,480 Speaker 1: It was like be yourself, be you, let your life shine. 345 00:16:48,520 --> 00:16:51,720 Speaker 1: And I'm like, whoa what, Like I could just be 346 00:16:51,840 --> 00:16:54,160 Speaker 1: who I am, Like I ain't gonna be censored, I 347 00:16:54,160 --> 00:16:58,800 Speaker 1: ain't gotta you know how who I am. And it's like, nah, man, 348 00:16:58,920 --> 00:17:01,520 Speaker 1: be you. And I know ja Kobe Jones. So when 349 00:17:01,560 --> 00:17:04,000 Speaker 1: I walked in, I've seen him. When I seen him, 350 00:17:04,119 --> 00:17:06,760 Speaker 1: I was like, what's your Kobe Jones in hire? And 351 00:17:06,840 --> 00:17:08,240 Speaker 1: when he came up to me and I knowed your 352 00:17:08,320 --> 00:17:11,520 Speaker 1: Kobe personally, so and how he was acting, I was like, 353 00:17:11,640 --> 00:17:15,160 Speaker 1: oh so we could really like be us right, yeah, man, 354 00:17:15,320 --> 00:17:16,680 Speaker 1: be you. You know what I'm saying. So I'm like, 355 00:17:16,720 --> 00:17:19,359 Speaker 1: all right, bet. And that's when, man, that's when I 356 00:17:19,400 --> 00:17:22,879 Speaker 1: got around. That's when I got around guys that was like, 357 00:17:24,040 --> 00:17:28,080 Speaker 1: um like Sean Consillan, jame Z headed bow b A, 358 00:17:28,840 --> 00:17:34,120 Speaker 1: Corey Graham, Um, it was guys like that Sam Cooke, 359 00:17:35,480 --> 00:17:37,760 Speaker 1: that that kind of man was like, man, you can't 360 00:17:37,760 --> 00:17:39,840 Speaker 1: you can really plays lead for a long time, and 361 00:17:39,920 --> 00:17:42,040 Speaker 1: I looked at him like what and they're like, yo, 362 00:17:42,200 --> 00:17:45,639 Speaker 1: you fast, you physical, you're smart, players lead for a 363 00:17:45,680 --> 00:17:48,280 Speaker 1: long time. I'm like, well, what I gotta do. And 364 00:17:48,400 --> 00:17:50,120 Speaker 1: that's when I was like, man, sposed teams, you play 365 00:17:50,200 --> 00:17:52,639 Speaker 1: supposed to. If you do what you're gonna practice like 366 00:17:52,720 --> 00:17:55,600 Speaker 1: it's over with. So I was kind of I listen, oh, 367 00:17:55,680 --> 00:18:00,320 Speaker 1: Jamal Jamie Jamale McClain as a person that also always 368 00:18:00,359 --> 00:18:03,359 Speaker 1: had my back, that um that pushed me right. People 369 00:18:03,359 --> 00:18:06,440 Speaker 1: don't know about Jamal um the influence that he had, 370 00:18:06,840 --> 00:18:10,399 Speaker 1: but Jamil Jamil was another guy who always believed in 371 00:18:10,440 --> 00:18:12,520 Speaker 1: me and like you know, helped me along the way, right. 372 00:18:13,280 --> 00:18:15,120 Speaker 1: And when I got around those guys and the guys 373 00:18:15,160 --> 00:18:17,920 Speaker 1: that I named, you know, they're not like big, big 374 00:18:18,040 --> 00:18:21,240 Speaker 1: name guys, but those are guys that played numerous of 375 00:18:21,359 --> 00:18:25,800 Speaker 1: years in the NFL. So I'm like, okay, every the 376 00:18:25,840 --> 00:18:28,719 Speaker 1: best thing, they're play the game, Ray Lloyds, the best linebacker, 377 00:18:28,760 --> 00:18:31,760 Speaker 1: then play the game. If we're being realistic, I'm not 378 00:18:31,840 --> 00:18:34,680 Speaker 1: gonna be those guys, right something like you know what, 379 00:18:34,880 --> 00:18:37,159 Speaker 1: but I could definitely, I could definitely play for a 380 00:18:37,240 --> 00:18:40,720 Speaker 1: long time. And so I'm gonna take this route. I'm 381 00:18:40,720 --> 00:18:43,080 Speaker 1: gonna do this. So I've done it, and it was like, 382 00:18:43,200 --> 00:18:46,320 Speaker 1: you know what, I'm embrace special teams at the time. 383 00:18:46,440 --> 00:18:49,440 Speaker 1: I didn't embrace special teams before there. I just I 384 00:18:49,520 --> 00:18:51,639 Speaker 1: wanted to be a starter. I wanted to play safety. 385 00:18:51,760 --> 00:18:55,080 Speaker 1: I wanted to play on defense. But then then I 386 00:18:55,200 --> 00:19:00,520 Speaker 1: realized that, you know what, um the starters is every yeah, 387 00:19:00,760 --> 00:19:03,399 Speaker 1: but North, So that's not gonna happen, you know what 388 00:19:03,440 --> 00:19:05,680 Speaker 1: I'm saying. So it's like, so that's what matters. I 389 00:19:05,800 --> 00:19:09,479 Speaker 1: just focused on special teams and it's just grit, grind, 390 00:19:09,640 --> 00:19:13,879 Speaker 1: want to um fast, physical, and that's what you have 391 00:19:14,000 --> 00:19:17,840 Speaker 1: to be. You gotta want to do it. And man, 392 00:19:17,920 --> 00:19:21,639 Speaker 1: that's when coach Harves just kind of Jared Rossberg. That's 393 00:19:21,680 --> 00:19:24,840 Speaker 1: when Jared Rossberg just like shee back then and I'm 394 00:19:24,880 --> 00:19:26,560 Speaker 1: running down to kick off. It was like the four 395 00:19:26,640 --> 00:19:29,399 Speaker 1: man wedge, you know what I'm saying. It was like, uh, 396 00:19:30,200 --> 00:19:33,520 Speaker 1: four three pound lineman back there. Nobody want to do that. 397 00:19:34,640 --> 00:19:35,960 Speaker 1: So I'm like, you know, if that's what I gotta do, 398 00:19:35,960 --> 00:19:37,680 Speaker 1: I'm gonna go do it. You know. So I did it. 399 00:19:37,720 --> 00:19:39,520 Speaker 1: I did I did the things that nobody wanted to do. 400 00:19:40,119 --> 00:19:41,960 Speaker 1: You no, nobody wanted to run down at the five 401 00:19:42,119 --> 00:19:44,680 Speaker 1: and hit the fox Man wedge. Nobody wanted to play 402 00:19:44,760 --> 00:19:47,959 Speaker 1: person protector. Nobody wanted to be the center on kid return. 403 00:19:48,440 --> 00:19:49,800 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying something like, you know what, 404 00:19:50,400 --> 00:19:52,280 Speaker 1: I'll do it, and they looking at like, well, something, 405 00:19:52,320 --> 00:19:55,040 Speaker 1: I'll do it. And I'm like five, I'm six ft 406 00:19:55,160 --> 00:20:00,440 Speaker 1: hundred ninety pounds, you know. But I mean that's that's 407 00:20:00,520 --> 00:20:02,520 Speaker 1: and and that's where my mentality is. You know, I'm 408 00:20:02,560 --> 00:20:04,200 Speaker 1: just not gonna stop. I'm gonna keep going. I'm gonna 409 00:20:04,240 --> 00:20:07,200 Speaker 1: keep going. So um, you know how much you know 410 00:20:07,240 --> 00:20:10,040 Speaker 1: how much we believe in special teams and how much 411 00:20:10,240 --> 00:20:12,800 Speaker 1: coach hearts believing. So if you're not, if you're not 412 00:20:13,480 --> 00:20:17,119 Speaker 1: contributing on defense offense, you better be a heck of 413 00:20:17,160 --> 00:20:20,399 Speaker 1: a special teams bill. That's great. So I want to 414 00:20:20,440 --> 00:20:21,760 Speaker 1: go back to when you were in Green Bay. And 415 00:20:22,040 --> 00:20:24,080 Speaker 1: listeners of the podcasts who have been listening for a 416 00:20:24,160 --> 00:20:26,360 Speaker 1: long time will remember when you were on the podcast 417 00:20:27,000 --> 00:20:29,600 Speaker 1: several years ago and we were talking about your time 418 00:20:29,640 --> 00:20:34,040 Speaker 1: in Green Bay and I can't remember the nickname that 419 00:20:34,200 --> 00:20:37,560 Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers had for you. Remind me basically, the story 420 00:20:37,680 --> 00:20:39,680 Speaker 1: goes and you can fill in the gaps here that 421 00:20:40,000 --> 00:20:42,600 Speaker 1: you know, Aaron Rodgers, it's practice. He's used to going 422 00:20:42,640 --> 00:20:45,280 Speaker 1: out there and completing passes. And then there's this annoying 423 00:20:45,400 --> 00:20:47,840 Speaker 1: safety who keeps on the practice squad, who keeps coming 424 00:20:47,880 --> 00:20:50,320 Speaker 1: in here and picking them off and batting down balls 425 00:20:50,320 --> 00:20:52,480 Speaker 1: and practice his real thorn and aside. He's like, what 426 00:20:52,560 --> 00:20:55,000 Speaker 1: are we doing here? Come on, you know, taking easy 427 00:20:55,080 --> 00:20:57,040 Speaker 1: out here in practice. And so we had a nickname 428 00:20:57,119 --> 00:20:58,919 Speaker 1: for you. You were kind of a pest to him. 429 00:20:58,960 --> 00:21:01,520 Speaker 1: It sounded like it what was the nickname? And and 430 00:21:01,600 --> 00:21:05,960 Speaker 1: filling the gaps for me? Um, all right. So when 431 00:21:06,040 --> 00:21:08,400 Speaker 1: we out there in practice, um, you know, they kind 432 00:21:08,440 --> 00:21:11,560 Speaker 1: of tell you, you know, play this defense, but you know, 433 00:21:11,800 --> 00:21:14,000 Speaker 1: go over here, or go over there, or do this right. 434 00:21:14,000 --> 00:21:16,200 Speaker 1: They tell you where they want you to go. So 435 00:21:16,320 --> 00:21:18,720 Speaker 1: I was like, all right, whatever, So I'll get back 436 00:21:18,760 --> 00:21:20,480 Speaker 1: there and that Timm and go right. But instead of 437 00:21:20,520 --> 00:21:22,280 Speaker 1: going right, I see a right looking up, So I'm 438 00:21:22,280 --> 00:21:25,119 Speaker 1: going left, going up and I'll make a play of 439 00:21:25,160 --> 00:21:27,160 Speaker 1: the ball. And then they they're mad at the coaches 440 00:21:27,160 --> 00:21:28,840 Speaker 1: are mad, like no, you're supposed to do this. I'm 441 00:21:28,840 --> 00:21:31,080 Speaker 1: like I am, you know, my bad, my bad, whatever, 442 00:21:31,480 --> 00:21:33,520 Speaker 1: So I go left this time you' supposed to get 443 00:21:33,520 --> 00:21:34,920 Speaker 1: back and go left. I'm okay, So I get back, 444 00:21:34,920 --> 00:21:36,920 Speaker 1: go left, and I see Aid looking right. He throws 445 00:21:36,960 --> 00:21:39,320 Speaker 1: it right, so I go right. Now. I started doing 446 00:21:39,359 --> 00:21:45,080 Speaker 1: stuff like that, and I started disguising thee I think 447 00:21:45,400 --> 00:21:48,680 Speaker 1: for me like I come from Tennessee State, you know 448 00:21:48,720 --> 00:21:51,720 Speaker 1: what I'm saying, like we have fun and practice like 449 00:21:52,320 --> 00:21:54,080 Speaker 1: so that's what I knew. I knew to have fun 450 00:21:54,160 --> 00:21:56,680 Speaker 1: and practice. I knew to to run around and beat 451 00:21:56,760 --> 00:21:59,159 Speaker 1: myself and just you know, ball out, you know. So 452 00:21:59,240 --> 00:22:01,080 Speaker 1: that's what I did. It was kind of like you 453 00:22:01,160 --> 00:22:03,440 Speaker 1: know what, I'll get back there. But once I once 454 00:22:03,480 --> 00:22:05,439 Speaker 1: I go left, I'm looking at wherever the ball going, 455 00:22:05,480 --> 00:22:08,000 Speaker 1: That's where I'm going. And that's how that was my mentality, 456 00:22:08,119 --> 00:22:10,560 Speaker 1: like this coming out of Tennessee State, that is what 457 00:22:10,720 --> 00:22:14,639 Speaker 1: it was, right, So you know, Mike mccartman here like 458 00:22:14,760 --> 00:22:16,000 Speaker 1: that now. He used to like, you know, I mean 459 00:22:16,119 --> 00:22:18,520 Speaker 1: the time about it. But a RD academy, he was 460 00:22:18,560 --> 00:22:20,680 Speaker 1: like man, He'll say, like, man, keep doing that, like 461 00:22:20,840 --> 00:22:23,760 Speaker 1: keep doing that. And I'm like, alright, I said, keep 462 00:22:23,760 --> 00:22:26,159 Speaker 1: doing something, keep doing it. Now. Everybody telling me to 463 00:22:26,240 --> 00:22:28,160 Speaker 1: keep doing it, but my coach is telling me stop 464 00:22:28,320 --> 00:22:31,879 Speaker 1: doing that. And I'm like, you're right. I'm like, so 465 00:22:32,000 --> 00:22:33,320 Speaker 1: I don't. I don't know that. So I'm like, man, 466 00:22:33,359 --> 00:22:35,680 Speaker 1: if I get cut, man, like you're gonna you're gonna 467 00:22:35,680 --> 00:22:43,760 Speaker 1: boution me or something, right somehow, I've always I just 468 00:22:43,840 --> 00:22:46,840 Speaker 1: always did that in practice, Like and um man, we 469 00:22:46,920 --> 00:22:49,200 Speaker 1: had a ball in practice, so he should call me 470 00:22:49,760 --> 00:22:54,080 Speaker 1: master disaster. Yeah, that's what it was. They decid used 471 00:22:54,080 --> 00:22:57,720 Speaker 1: to mess up all the mess up practice. So so 472 00:22:58,119 --> 00:23:00,520 Speaker 1: so even when I see him play this year, he's 473 00:23:00,560 --> 00:23:03,400 Speaker 1: like a master master and I'm like, man, you're still 474 00:23:03,480 --> 00:23:08,280 Speaker 1: calling me that man? You know? Um but yeah, man, man, 475 00:23:08,480 --> 00:23:10,920 Speaker 1: that was just like my practice happens like you know, 476 00:23:11,320 --> 00:23:13,280 Speaker 1: trying to go make a play in practice because I'm like, 477 00:23:13,359 --> 00:23:16,040 Speaker 1: you know what, I'm gonna show them that I can play. 478 00:23:16,119 --> 00:23:18,320 Speaker 1: And it's like that was my mentality, like you know what, 479 00:23:18,600 --> 00:23:20,159 Speaker 1: I'm gonna go out here, I'm gonna play hard. I'm 480 00:23:20,160 --> 00:23:23,719 Speaker 1: a practice hard and um you know, and and pleasant 481 00:23:23,760 --> 00:23:25,480 Speaker 1: that that was my job anyway. My job was the 482 00:23:25,520 --> 00:23:27,880 Speaker 1: practice and I wasn't playing on Sundays, so I'm gonna 483 00:23:27,880 --> 00:23:29,880 Speaker 1: go out head and give you all. I got money 484 00:23:29,920 --> 00:23:33,040 Speaker 1: through Friday, and I'm trying to make play. So because 485 00:23:33,080 --> 00:23:35,360 Speaker 1: I know everybody's looking at this. I know everybody talking 486 00:23:35,359 --> 00:23:37,200 Speaker 1: about it. So one day they're gonna black man, you 487 00:23:37,280 --> 00:23:39,800 Speaker 1: know what this kid making plays like we need to plan. 488 00:23:40,320 --> 00:23:44,240 Speaker 1: It never happened, but I'm glad. I'm glad that it 489 00:23:44,320 --> 00:23:45,880 Speaker 1: worked out the way that it did because I came 490 00:23:45,960 --> 00:23:50,480 Speaker 1: here and I became who I who I am? You know, so, yeah, 491 00:23:51,320 --> 00:23:53,480 Speaker 1: you became you became co cap. Can you can you 492 00:23:53,560 --> 00:23:57,399 Speaker 1: talk about about what it is about Special Teams that 493 00:23:57,560 --> 00:24:00,440 Speaker 1: you fell in love with so much? Man, And nobody 494 00:24:00,480 --> 00:24:03,479 Speaker 1: never asked me that that's that's that's the way, right, 495 00:24:04,560 --> 00:24:12,400 Speaker 1: um man. Special teams is uh, it's one play, all 496 00:24:12,480 --> 00:24:17,520 Speaker 1: out and it's like, uh, it's basically a free fall, right, 497 00:24:18,640 --> 00:24:22,560 Speaker 1: and but it's your chance to go out and make 498 00:24:22,600 --> 00:24:26,080 Speaker 1: an impact. Right. So I never really been like I've 499 00:24:26,119 --> 00:24:28,919 Speaker 1: been miked up a couple of times, right, And one 500 00:24:29,000 --> 00:24:32,080 Speaker 1: time it was miked up. I was miked up against 501 00:24:32,880 --> 00:24:37,200 Speaker 1: see uh was it? I think it's a rams. Once 502 00:24:37,240 --> 00:24:39,240 Speaker 1: it was the Rounds were playing the Rounds and it 503 00:24:39,280 --> 00:24:42,520 Speaker 1: was in St. Louis and they had the return that 504 00:24:42,680 --> 00:24:48,920 Speaker 1: was from Baltimore Table and Austin and my mom, you know, 505 00:24:48,960 --> 00:24:50,720 Speaker 1: I just called myself the Joe Flack or the or 506 00:24:50,760 --> 00:24:55,520 Speaker 1: the Plant team. Right. Um, but my whole mindset was 507 00:24:55,560 --> 00:24:57,160 Speaker 1: now about run o hand and gonna make a play. 508 00:24:57,800 --> 00:25:01,639 Speaker 1: I just gonna make a play, and not everybody want 509 00:25:01,680 --> 00:25:04,080 Speaker 1: to like it's it's easy to sit there and like 510 00:25:05,359 --> 00:25:09,680 Speaker 1: to say, man, you know plants first teams is easy? 511 00:25:09,760 --> 00:25:13,080 Speaker 1: Oh you know that that that's that's nothing. Right when 512 00:25:13,119 --> 00:25:15,960 Speaker 1: we got somebody to run at you full speed that 513 00:25:16,119 --> 00:25:19,160 Speaker 1: don't stop, and you're just standing in one space once 514 00:25:19,200 --> 00:25:21,439 Speaker 1: apart and you gotta block this person. Now, let's imagine 515 00:25:21,480 --> 00:25:23,760 Speaker 1: you're standing still like this bottle of water right here, 516 00:25:23,840 --> 00:25:27,200 Speaker 1: right and here I come with a forty yard sprint 517 00:25:27,400 --> 00:25:29,439 Speaker 1: and you ain't moving. I'm in a fort or sprint 518 00:25:29,840 --> 00:25:32,920 Speaker 1: and he's just running out is as a car crash. Man, 519 00:25:33,080 --> 00:25:36,119 Speaker 1: Like for real, you know you gotta want to do 520 00:25:36,280 --> 00:25:39,879 Speaker 1: that every single time. Now I'm not by sitting up 521 00:25:39,920 --> 00:25:41,640 Speaker 1: here and saying now I love do that every single time. 522 00:25:41,760 --> 00:25:45,600 Speaker 1: You know, you know, but that that's the job. So 523 00:25:45,760 --> 00:25:47,879 Speaker 1: then that that's what you have to go do. And 524 00:25:48,119 --> 00:25:51,080 Speaker 1: it got to a point where it's like, man, I 525 00:25:51,119 --> 00:25:53,200 Speaker 1: can't nobody do this better than me? That was my 526 00:25:53,280 --> 00:25:55,400 Speaker 1: man tire, that man can about this better? Me right, 527 00:25:56,200 --> 00:25:59,119 Speaker 1: and and it was just like once I started getting 528 00:25:59,119 --> 00:26:00,680 Speaker 1: into it, and once I saw of getting the rhythm, 529 00:26:00,760 --> 00:26:04,159 Speaker 1: and as the years just kept parting on, it was 530 00:26:04,240 --> 00:26:05,960 Speaker 1: like I started getting all the riding that I never 531 00:26:06,040 --> 00:26:08,679 Speaker 1: thought I would get. It was like players and players 532 00:26:08,680 --> 00:26:11,320 Speaker 1: are come talk to me. As players asked me like, man, 533 00:26:11,359 --> 00:26:13,639 Speaker 1: how do you do this? We'll make you do that? Uh. 534 00:26:15,000 --> 00:26:16,480 Speaker 1: And it was just like, man, I can't believe like 535 00:26:16,520 --> 00:26:19,239 Speaker 1: people talking to me. Then the coaches are coach from 536 00:26:19,280 --> 00:26:22,840 Speaker 1: other team will come talk to me. I'm just like, man, 537 00:26:22,920 --> 00:26:26,800 Speaker 1: it's like this is crazy, right. But I don't know. 538 00:26:26,840 --> 00:26:28,600 Speaker 1: I don't know if I answer you a question. But 539 00:26:29,040 --> 00:26:32,840 Speaker 1: but what I love was about special sayings. Uh. I love. 540 00:26:33,440 --> 00:26:36,680 Speaker 1: I love playing a PP I love the kickoff. I 541 00:26:36,800 --> 00:26:41,080 Speaker 1: love Punk Return. Now kick Return it's a different story 542 00:26:41,160 --> 00:26:46,800 Speaker 1: because I'm the guy that's standing still will while another 543 00:26:46,840 --> 00:26:49,600 Speaker 1: guy running four speed rather to take my head off, right, 544 00:26:50,280 --> 00:26:53,200 Speaker 1: you know. But it's a it's a chance to go 545 00:26:53,280 --> 00:26:55,840 Speaker 1: out and affect the game, to make a big play. 546 00:26:56,400 --> 00:26:58,639 Speaker 1: And no matter what, you start the game on specs 547 00:26:58,680 --> 00:27:01,680 Speaker 1: to teams. So I started. I started every single game. 548 00:27:02,720 --> 00:27:04,560 Speaker 1: I only miss you know, it's crazy. I only missed 549 00:27:04,560 --> 00:27:09,639 Speaker 1: one game. My whole career. That is wild. So and 550 00:27:09,800 --> 00:27:13,040 Speaker 1: I didn't realize this until coach Harve said it, and 551 00:27:13,160 --> 00:27:15,360 Speaker 1: he was like, you know, you know how special supposed 552 00:27:15,440 --> 00:27:19,359 Speaker 1: change is. You gotts start the game every game. You 553 00:27:19,440 --> 00:27:23,280 Speaker 1: were starter every game. And I'm like, yo, we do 554 00:27:23,400 --> 00:27:28,240 Speaker 1: start the game every game, so so I can say 555 00:27:28,240 --> 00:27:31,000 Speaker 1: this now. So when I used to go out there 556 00:27:31,080 --> 00:27:33,400 Speaker 1: for kick off, I'm like the last person to walk 557 00:27:33,480 --> 00:27:36,000 Speaker 1: out and my and my best friend hated, like when 558 00:27:36,000 --> 00:27:37,280 Speaker 1: he comes to the game, like why do you do that? 559 00:27:37,680 --> 00:27:39,040 Speaker 1: Like run out down the field. But I'm like, no, 560 00:27:39,240 --> 00:27:41,520 Speaker 1: that's my moment, Like that's my moment. I get to 561 00:27:41,520 --> 00:27:43,920 Speaker 1: walk out there. I'm looking at the crowd and then 562 00:27:44,040 --> 00:27:45,960 Speaker 1: something and a lot of the time like the camera 563 00:27:46,960 --> 00:27:48,440 Speaker 1: beyond me, and I'm walking out there and I'm looking 564 00:27:48,480 --> 00:27:51,159 Speaker 1: at I'm like yeah, and myself the game and I'm 565 00:27:51,200 --> 00:27:53,520 Speaker 1: thinking to myself, I'm gonna start the game. I might 566 00:27:53,640 --> 00:27:55,240 Speaker 1: start the game. I run down here and I made 567 00:27:55,280 --> 00:27:57,440 Speaker 1: this tackle on the best on the first player of 568 00:27:57,520 --> 00:28:00,960 Speaker 1: the game. Is up right, That's what I'm thinking. We 569 00:28:01,040 --> 00:28:03,119 Speaker 1: all keep returning to the same thing. I said, Man, 570 00:28:03,160 --> 00:28:07,880 Speaker 1: we but just for a touchdown first played the game. No, man, 571 00:28:08,080 --> 00:28:10,399 Speaker 1: it's an adrenal in the rust. It's in the drining 572 00:28:10,440 --> 00:28:14,800 Speaker 1: the rust. It's something that I'm gonna find something that 573 00:28:14,880 --> 00:28:19,400 Speaker 1: that gives me the same enjoying the rust eventually. But man, 574 00:28:19,760 --> 00:28:24,840 Speaker 1: Special Teams is I mean, I love, I love everything 575 00:28:24,880 --> 00:28:26,159 Speaker 1: about it. To be honest with you, I don't I 576 00:28:26,200 --> 00:28:28,359 Speaker 1: can't give you this one thing about it, but you 577 00:28:28,440 --> 00:28:30,920 Speaker 1: know it's it's it's been fun. Who on this team 578 00:28:31,000 --> 00:28:34,159 Speaker 1: is gonna fill the gap that you're leaving behind? Like 579 00:28:34,600 --> 00:28:38,160 Speaker 1: when Albert McClellan left, you know, for people who don't 580 00:28:38,200 --> 00:28:40,640 Speaker 1: remember this, but the co Cap Albert McLellin was the 581 00:28:40,720 --> 00:28:42,520 Speaker 1: other code of the co Cap. You know, you Tube 582 00:28:42,600 --> 00:28:44,680 Speaker 1: were the leaders of the Special Teams group and then 583 00:28:44,760 --> 00:28:47,600 Speaker 1: you really seized that over the last few years obviously, 584 00:28:47,960 --> 00:28:50,880 Speaker 1: So who is next? Who's the next leader of that group? Man? 585 00:28:51,040 --> 00:28:54,920 Speaker 1: We have we have some really good young guys, like 586 00:28:55,120 --> 00:28:59,920 Speaker 1: really good young guys. Uh nah. I don't like name 587 00:29:00,160 --> 00:29:05,120 Speaker 1: people because I might mess around to leave off somebody. Okay, okay, 588 00:29:06,640 --> 00:29:09,760 Speaker 1: somebody gonna say Dan cold Cow. You don't think you 589 00:29:09,840 --> 00:29:16,000 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. But with that being said, Chris Board, 590 00:29:16,440 --> 00:29:18,560 Speaker 1: who is I think about far the best best teams 591 00:29:18,600 --> 00:29:22,560 Speaker 1: player in the league. Um, I think that he now 592 00:29:22,880 --> 00:29:26,000 Speaker 1: now that you're retired, now he's now I think now 593 00:29:26,640 --> 00:29:29,080 Speaker 1: I'm could be completely honest, man, I think the last 594 00:29:29,160 --> 00:29:32,080 Speaker 1: two years, I think Chris Board has taken a tremendous 595 00:29:32,200 --> 00:29:34,880 Speaker 1: jump and what he doing special teams and what he 596 00:29:34,960 --> 00:29:39,040 Speaker 1: doing defense. So I think that he's gonna be um. 597 00:29:39,560 --> 00:29:42,080 Speaker 1: But I do think that he's the best best team 598 00:29:42,080 --> 00:29:46,040 Speaker 1: spelling the league. Um, we got young guys now, so 599 00:29:46,160 --> 00:29:49,640 Speaker 1: he would be like the leader. Yeah right, And we 600 00:29:49,760 --> 00:29:57,480 Speaker 1: have young guys like Christian uh Willas, Geno Stone, Um, 601 00:29:58,000 --> 00:30:01,640 Speaker 1: Malik Harrison. We got guys like that that that can 602 00:30:01,760 --> 00:30:04,840 Speaker 1: come in that you know that that's just a good foundation. 603 00:30:04,920 --> 00:30:06,760 Speaker 1: That's what you need. You need a good foundation for 604 00:30:06,880 --> 00:30:09,920 Speaker 1: us to be five five special team. Example, when we 605 00:30:10,400 --> 00:30:12,240 Speaker 1: when we was rolling, I'm talking about what was the 606 00:30:12,400 --> 00:30:14,640 Speaker 1: number one special teams this year, so we was definitely 607 00:30:14,720 --> 00:30:17,600 Speaker 1: rolling this year. But I'm talking about like back when 608 00:30:17,680 --> 00:30:25,200 Speaker 1: we had Albert Zack, zach or Um comere Akin juice 609 00:30:25,400 --> 00:30:32,800 Speaker 1: you check. Uh, we had um trial Wick. You know 610 00:30:34,440 --> 00:30:38,520 Speaker 1: when when we that was our found Terence Brooks, right, 611 00:30:38,760 --> 00:30:44,480 Speaker 1: Terence Broce, Arthur Brown, that was our found that And 612 00:30:44,840 --> 00:30:47,760 Speaker 1: I did say album of Color right album of color, 613 00:30:48,080 --> 00:30:51,520 Speaker 1: you know, Albert, that was our foundation. There was like 614 00:30:52,320 --> 00:30:54,160 Speaker 1: every time we went to a game, we had five 615 00:30:54,240 --> 00:30:56,320 Speaker 1: guys like it was like you know what, like who 616 00:30:56,360 --> 00:30:58,120 Speaker 1: are you gonna who are you gonna stop? And we 617 00:30:58,320 --> 00:31:00,520 Speaker 1: was like you know what I'm saying, like with pride 618 00:31:00,600 --> 00:31:03,320 Speaker 1: in that that we took pride to spect teams Like, man, 619 00:31:03,360 --> 00:31:04,880 Speaker 1: we the spect best teams. You went out here, you 620 00:31:04,920 --> 00:31:06,880 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. So I was like, well, I 621 00:31:06,960 --> 00:31:09,240 Speaker 1: kind of went off on a whole different things, but yeah, no, 622 00:31:09,360 --> 00:31:12,680 Speaker 1: but I think those guys would be the found the foundation. 623 00:31:12,960 --> 00:31:16,000 Speaker 1: And I would say, Chris Board, it's definitely the lead 624 00:31:16,080 --> 00:31:18,720 Speaker 1: of of of will be the lead of that unit. 625 00:31:18,960 --> 00:31:22,160 Speaker 1: That unit. Now when you say p P pump protector 626 00:31:22,240 --> 00:31:24,320 Speaker 1: is what you're talking about For fans out there, that's 627 00:31:24,320 --> 00:31:26,160 Speaker 1: a that's a I mean, that's a big job. That's 628 00:31:26,240 --> 00:31:29,240 Speaker 1: like you're kind of like the quarterback of the special 629 00:31:29,320 --> 00:31:32,800 Speaker 1: teams unit in that position. So and and the other 630 00:31:32,880 --> 00:31:34,120 Speaker 1: fund part is you get to do a lot of 631 00:31:34,160 --> 00:31:37,440 Speaker 1: the fakes. If it's a direct snap, it's going to 632 00:31:37,600 --> 00:31:42,440 Speaker 1: pp you. You've changed a few times. I may I 633 00:31:42,560 --> 00:31:46,160 Speaker 1: have made a couple of plays uh on doing a 634 00:31:46,200 --> 00:31:50,280 Speaker 1: little pump fakes. But man, not those um Man, those 635 00:31:50,320 --> 00:31:54,160 Speaker 1: plays are crucial. Um Man, we didn't we didn't have 636 00:31:54,880 --> 00:31:57,000 Speaker 1: we did not have too many blocks on my watch. 637 00:31:58,000 --> 00:32:02,760 Speaker 1: Uh but it's like, no, that's the time. Man. It's 638 00:32:02,800 --> 00:32:04,840 Speaker 1: like everybody trying to go black the point and he's like, 639 00:32:05,400 --> 00:32:08,120 Speaker 1: you gotta protect the punt. If you don't protect the point, 640 00:32:08,160 --> 00:32:11,000 Speaker 1: then it's like, you know what happened. You saw what 641 00:32:11,080 --> 00:32:17,160 Speaker 1: happened this past weekend. But now it's it's probably one 642 00:32:17,160 --> 00:32:21,000 Speaker 1: of the most important jobs on the Special scenes unit 643 00:32:21,240 --> 00:32:27,400 Speaker 1: besides you know, the snapper, the holder and Justin Tucker. 644 00:32:29,240 --> 00:32:32,440 Speaker 1: But yeah, not man of person protector. I feel like 645 00:32:32,680 --> 00:32:35,680 Speaker 1: it's the quarterback of of the unit. So yeah, you 646 00:32:35,720 --> 00:32:38,080 Speaker 1: gotta run it that such. Yes, the last question I 647 00:32:38,160 --> 00:32:40,680 Speaker 1: think everybody, what everybody will want to know is what's 648 00:32:40,760 --> 00:32:51,480 Speaker 1: next for Anthony Levine. Man probably go to the beach. Man. 649 00:32:51,480 --> 00:32:56,040 Speaker 1: I'm gonna go now man, uh Man, I just right 650 00:32:56,080 --> 00:32:57,720 Speaker 1: now now, I just want to take some time. I 651 00:32:57,760 --> 00:32:59,880 Speaker 1: want to enjoy. I want to I want to enjoy 652 00:32:59,920 --> 00:33:04,160 Speaker 1: the moment, you know, my whole life. Um So, my dad, 653 00:33:04,360 --> 00:33:07,320 Speaker 1: my dad motto was when I was in when I 654 00:33:07,360 --> 00:33:09,240 Speaker 1: started when I was in high school and I really 655 00:33:09,240 --> 00:33:13,120 Speaker 1: started to off in football. He was like, keep you 656 00:33:13,320 --> 00:33:14,960 Speaker 1: keep working hard. Ke're working hard. You're gonna be with 657 00:33:15,040 --> 00:33:17,600 Speaker 1: how fun we get the college? And I'm like, okay, 658 00:33:17,640 --> 00:33:20,680 Speaker 1: all right, but then I got to college. You're not 659 00:33:20,880 --> 00:33:22,600 Speaker 1: cute working hard. Ke're working on you know, you're gonna 660 00:33:22,640 --> 00:33:26,280 Speaker 1: have fun, you know if you make a professional. And 661 00:33:26,320 --> 00:33:33,040 Speaker 1: I'm like, all right, you know, so now I keep 662 00:33:33,080 --> 00:33:35,160 Speaker 1: working hard. Ke're working hard because you know, my dad's 663 00:33:35,240 --> 00:33:38,760 Speaker 1: also you know, trainer somebody my uh my dad changed 664 00:33:38,800 --> 00:33:40,680 Speaker 1: me as well as long as my my high school 665 00:33:40,680 --> 00:33:43,160 Speaker 1: coach was my who is my training as well? Um, 666 00:33:43,960 --> 00:33:46,040 Speaker 1: but that's his thing. Because I'm now I'm in I'm 667 00:33:46,080 --> 00:33:48,240 Speaker 1: in the NFL, and he's like, keep working hard. You're 668 00:33:48,240 --> 00:33:51,400 Speaker 1: working hard. You have fun when you tied. So now 669 00:33:51,480 --> 00:33:54,000 Speaker 1: I retired, I don't have to talk about no more 670 00:33:54,040 --> 00:33:57,600 Speaker 1: working hard. You're gonna have fun when you know what 671 00:33:57,680 --> 00:34:01,680 Speaker 1: I'm saying as one to take a little time and 672 00:34:01,880 --> 00:34:05,240 Speaker 1: uh and just and just enjoy this moment and enjoy 673 00:34:05,360 --> 00:34:08,600 Speaker 1: what what I was able to to do as a raven, 674 00:34:08,880 --> 00:34:12,520 Speaker 1: as a as my playing career, and uh, you know, 675 00:34:12,640 --> 00:34:14,320 Speaker 1: and that and that's it, man, you know, and have 676 00:34:14,480 --> 00:34:18,200 Speaker 1: fun to jop my family, get it again. I spent 677 00:34:18,200 --> 00:34:19,640 Speaker 1: a lot of my I spent a lot of my 678 00:34:19,760 --> 00:34:23,400 Speaker 1: summers working out. Like when I take me, when I 679 00:34:23,440 --> 00:34:26,200 Speaker 1: take my family to to Disney. You know, we'll get 680 00:34:26,239 --> 00:34:29,160 Speaker 1: an airbnb and we'll we're going to Disney, like eight 681 00:34:29,200 --> 00:34:32,000 Speaker 1: in the morning because we go early, oh whenever, not 682 00:34:32,080 --> 00:34:35,279 Speaker 1: probably eight, but we go early in the morning. Right, Um, 683 00:34:35,680 --> 00:34:39,239 Speaker 1: I get up early and I go work out, and 684 00:34:39,400 --> 00:34:41,600 Speaker 1: then I come back. Then we go to Disney. You know, 685 00:34:41,719 --> 00:34:43,719 Speaker 1: we'll come back and I'm trying to do something working 686 00:34:43,760 --> 00:34:46,400 Speaker 1: on my body, you know. So what my mind was 687 00:34:46,520 --> 00:34:49,680 Speaker 1: always thinking, workout, workout, take care of you body, workout, 688 00:34:49,719 --> 00:34:51,719 Speaker 1: take anybody, okay with what you want to do with 689 00:34:51,840 --> 00:34:53,200 Speaker 1: the family. I want to do this. Okay, do that, 690 00:34:53,320 --> 00:34:55,600 Speaker 1: Let's do this now. While were doing that, I'm thinking, okay, 691 00:34:56,360 --> 00:34:58,120 Speaker 1: now I just done this. I gotta go work out. 692 00:34:59,280 --> 00:35:03,960 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. So because my my college 693 00:35:04,040 --> 00:35:06,520 Speaker 1: coach always told me, when you're not working out, somebody's 694 00:35:06,520 --> 00:35:10,400 Speaker 1: working out. Right to my mom, my whole my whole mindset, 695 00:35:10,480 --> 00:35:13,160 Speaker 1: my whole mind frame was I gotta stay working out. 696 00:35:13,200 --> 00:35:15,959 Speaker 1: I gotta stay consistent. Even when guys see me running 697 00:35:16,000 --> 00:35:17,560 Speaker 1: down and they were like Roa, How are you? How 698 00:35:17,560 --> 00:35:20,359 Speaker 1: are you running that fast? And you're that old? First 699 00:35:20,360 --> 00:35:23,759 Speaker 1: of all, I'm not that old. But I run like 700 00:35:23,840 --> 00:35:26,040 Speaker 1: I work out like I you know what I'm saying, 701 00:35:26,040 --> 00:35:28,160 Speaker 1: Like that's what I do like, you know, And it's 702 00:35:28,200 --> 00:35:31,600 Speaker 1: just I'm never not I never stopped, you know. I 703 00:35:31,719 --> 00:35:33,719 Speaker 1: just always wanted to keep going and keep going and 704 00:35:33,800 --> 00:35:37,000 Speaker 1: just keep pushing the limits, you know. And now, man, 705 00:35:37,080 --> 00:35:39,160 Speaker 1: I feel like I'm gonna still work out, but I 706 00:35:39,200 --> 00:35:41,880 Speaker 1: don't have to work out to that extreme right right, 707 00:35:42,880 --> 00:35:44,920 Speaker 1: you can start working on Dad Boy like me. Man, 708 00:35:45,000 --> 00:35:49,680 Speaker 1: that's where it's at. Why well, we're not gonna do 709 00:35:50,560 --> 00:35:53,279 Speaker 1: talk about dad Bob at Levin. You know what I'm 710 00:35:53,280 --> 00:35:57,360 Speaker 1: saying that I was working out last week, right and 711 00:35:57,480 --> 00:35:59,880 Speaker 1: Jamille and Jamille comes up to me and I'm running 712 00:36:00,680 --> 00:36:03,880 Speaker 1: and Jamie said, hey, man, you retire. Why are you 713 00:36:03,920 --> 00:36:06,120 Speaker 1: still running like this? And I'm like, but I'm not 714 00:36:06,200 --> 00:36:08,319 Speaker 1: about to do is retire you and in three months 715 00:36:08,360 --> 00:36:10,040 Speaker 1: later to have a dad by Like, I'm not doing that. 716 00:36:11,560 --> 00:36:13,520 Speaker 1: I'm gonna go ahead and lose all these weight right now. 717 00:36:13,600 --> 00:36:16,520 Speaker 1: It's to give me so so some room to get 718 00:36:16,640 --> 00:36:19,120 Speaker 1: a little weight, you know what I'm saying, Wain doing 719 00:36:19,200 --> 00:36:21,719 Speaker 1: that right now? Man. So yeah, man, Man, that's that's 720 00:36:21,719 --> 00:36:24,200 Speaker 1: what I'm trying to do. Well much respect. Man, You've 721 00:36:24,200 --> 00:36:26,520 Speaker 1: had a fantastic career. It's been fun to watch it 722 00:36:26,680 --> 00:36:28,320 Speaker 1: and just fun to get to know you will be 723 00:36:28,400 --> 00:36:31,160 Speaker 1: around you. Man, it's been a pleasure than Thank you, 724 00:36:31,400 --> 00:36:36,120 Speaker 1: Thanks so much. Congratulations, Enjoy the beach. Sunday is right 725 00:36:36,160 --> 00:36:39,080 Speaker 1: around the corner. Draft your lineups now to feel the 726 00:36:39,200 --> 00:36:42,840 Speaker 1: sweat with Draft Kings, the official daily fantasy sports partner 727 00:36:42,920 --> 00:36:45,840 Speaker 1: of the Baltimore Ratings. Life is more fun when you 728 00:36:45,960 --> 00:36:48,600 Speaker 1: have skin in the game. Download the Draft Kings app 729 00:36:48,680 --> 00:36:51,719 Speaker 1: to check out all the action and daily contests. New 730 00:36:51,840 --> 00:36:54,480 Speaker 1: users enter code flock when signing up to get a 731 00:36:54,560 --> 00:36:57,799 Speaker 1: special offer that's code flock and get a special sign 732 00:36:57,880 --> 00:37:04,440 Speaker 1: up bonus eligibility restrict supplies. See DraftKings dot com for details. Well, 733 00:37:04,480 --> 00:37:07,239 Speaker 1: great stuff from co cap. I will add this too, 734 00:37:07,320 --> 00:37:10,520 Speaker 1: he says his football player and days are done. When 735 00:37:10,560 --> 00:37:13,440 Speaker 1: you got children, you can you always have targets to tackle. 736 00:37:13,719 --> 00:37:16,600 Speaker 1: I'm just saying it never really ends. I mean, I 737 00:37:16,719 --> 00:37:20,160 Speaker 1: still am a football player. I'm just old player and 738 00:37:20,200 --> 00:37:24,000 Speaker 1: you're definitely not a football player. Now, you haven't seen 739 00:37:24,080 --> 00:37:27,360 Speaker 1: my form. You haven't seen my tackling form tackling on 740 00:37:27,400 --> 00:37:30,160 Speaker 1: the cushions. How much? How much would it take for you? 741 00:37:30,480 --> 00:37:32,280 Speaker 1: You know he was talking about being a wedge buster. 742 00:37:32,880 --> 00:37:34,840 Speaker 1: How much money would I have to pay you to 743 00:37:34,960 --> 00:37:37,000 Speaker 1: run down on a kickoff and be a wedge buster? 744 00:37:38,800 --> 00:37:41,040 Speaker 1: What would it take? Well, I gotta I have to 745 00:37:41,120 --> 00:37:44,239 Speaker 1: total up the medical bills. After the total that up, 746 00:37:44,400 --> 00:37:46,479 Speaker 1: we can get we can get a go fund me going. 747 00:37:47,440 --> 00:37:50,840 Speaker 1: Let's watch Garrattbelle. I'd throw in a hondo on that. 748 00:37:52,520 --> 00:37:55,680 Speaker 1: It's gonna take more than that. Well, we'll get to 749 00:37:55,760 --> 00:37:59,520 Speaker 1: go fund me going here. You can pitch this idea. 750 00:38:00,400 --> 00:38:04,320 Speaker 1: I would just tell uh, you know, I would tell Tucker, 751 00:38:04,800 --> 00:38:06,160 Speaker 1: just booted out of the back of the end zone 752 00:38:06,160 --> 00:38:08,160 Speaker 1: and I was trying to weave around people. I don't 753 00:38:08,200 --> 00:38:09,839 Speaker 1: want to return. Just threw it out of the back 754 00:38:09,880 --> 00:38:11,239 Speaker 1: of the end zone and I'll run down there looking 755 00:38:11,320 --> 00:38:14,360 Speaker 1: like I'm trying to do something, but then just screwed 756 00:38:14,360 --> 00:38:16,680 Speaker 1: out of the way at the last second. I would 757 00:38:16,719 --> 00:38:19,520 Speaker 1: do that. You'd be a big fan of the rules 758 00:38:19,600 --> 00:38:22,800 Speaker 1: that no longer allow for wedges. What is it a 759 00:38:22,800 --> 00:38:25,040 Speaker 1: two man wedge? Now? You still wouldn't take on that though, 760 00:38:26,200 --> 00:38:27,640 Speaker 1: Just ut out of the back of the end zone. 761 00:38:27,800 --> 00:38:31,600 Speaker 1: I want I did like how Litvin. Uh. He did 762 00:38:31,680 --> 00:38:33,799 Speaker 1: cop to the fact that he didn't really like doing 763 00:38:33,920 --> 00:38:37,120 Speaker 1: kickoff return. You know, he's like that guy running full 764 00:38:37,160 --> 00:38:39,279 Speaker 1: speed at you. He was hoping for the touchbacks. He 765 00:38:39,400 --> 00:38:42,359 Speaker 1: was a fan of the touchbacks on kickoff return. Yeah, 766 00:38:43,719 --> 00:38:45,920 Speaker 1: but he did it. He did it well, and uh, 767 00:38:46,719 --> 00:38:48,640 Speaker 1: you know, it's it was really good to talk to him. 768 00:38:48,680 --> 00:38:51,960 Speaker 1: He's he's got great stories, um, and he's been an 769 00:38:52,000 --> 00:38:55,440 Speaker 1: important player and uh, I think that you know, his 770 00:38:55,680 --> 00:38:58,399 Speaker 1: his veteran presence will be missed, and um, I think 771 00:38:58,480 --> 00:39:01,200 Speaker 1: he'll as you probably, Center has probably got a sense 772 00:39:01,239 --> 00:39:04,200 Speaker 1: of this and listening to the interview, his his demeanor 773 00:39:04,400 --> 00:39:07,640 Speaker 1: and his attitude in the locker room, his playful banter 774 00:39:07,840 --> 00:39:10,359 Speaker 1: with reporters, I think that's gonna be missed too. Um. 775 00:39:10,760 --> 00:39:12,120 Speaker 1: And it was just it was good to talk with 776 00:39:12,239 --> 00:39:14,279 Speaker 1: him and obviously wish him the best of luck in 777 00:39:14,600 --> 00:39:19,400 Speaker 1: his next chapter. Absolutely. Uh. Anyway, we've had a lot 778 00:39:19,520 --> 00:39:22,239 Speaker 1: of listeners to The Lounge over the past week. I 779 00:39:22,360 --> 00:39:25,759 Speaker 1: think our off season Blueprint probably was one of our 780 00:39:25,800 --> 00:39:29,960 Speaker 1: best podcasts in terms of traffic at least uh in 781 00:39:30,120 --> 00:39:32,560 Speaker 1: quite some time. I just wanted to take a minute 782 00:39:32,640 --> 00:39:36,000 Speaker 1: here and kind of talk about some of the reaction 783 00:39:36,160 --> 00:39:38,800 Speaker 1: to last week's pod in relation to me and what 784 00:39:38,920 --> 00:39:41,800 Speaker 1: I said about Lamar Jackson, because there were some upset 785 00:39:41,880 --> 00:39:43,759 Speaker 1: I don't know if you saw this, Garrett, if you're 786 00:39:43,840 --> 00:39:48,759 Speaker 1: on Twitter, but there were some upset people. Um, I 787 00:39:48,880 --> 00:39:51,400 Speaker 1: just want to make it clear that I think Lamar 788 00:39:51,560 --> 00:39:54,600 Speaker 1: Jackson is awesome. I think he's one of the best 789 00:39:54,680 --> 00:39:57,600 Speaker 1: quarterbacks in the league and he's gonna be battling it 790 00:39:57,680 --> 00:39:59,880 Speaker 1: out with some of these other top guys in the 791 00:40:00,040 --> 00:40:02,959 Speaker 1: FC for years to come. I think he's so good 792 00:40:03,200 --> 00:40:04,800 Speaker 1: that I think the Ravens should give him one of 793 00:40:04,800 --> 00:40:07,719 Speaker 1: the richest contracts in football. That's how good I think 794 00:40:07,800 --> 00:40:10,880 Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson is and the Ravens are in really good hands. 795 00:40:11,440 --> 00:40:15,120 Speaker 1: And uh, you know what kind of hurt was being 796 00:40:15,239 --> 00:40:18,040 Speaker 1: labeled a Lamar hater despite saying I think he's one 797 00:40:18,080 --> 00:40:20,040 Speaker 1: of the best and should be paid the best. But 798 00:40:20,160 --> 00:40:23,239 Speaker 1: I understand. You know, people, people have their quarterbacks back, 799 00:40:23,320 --> 00:40:26,760 Speaker 1: and I love that about Baltimore. Y'all got his back hard, 800 00:40:27,320 --> 00:40:29,640 Speaker 1: so hard that it even came down with me. Um, 801 00:40:29,920 --> 00:40:32,400 Speaker 1: because I got the guys back to at least I 802 00:40:32,520 --> 00:40:35,600 Speaker 1: like to think so. I think he's I think he's fantastic. 803 00:40:36,160 --> 00:40:39,160 Speaker 1: So anyway, I just want to clear that up where 804 00:40:39,239 --> 00:40:41,839 Speaker 1: I stand on Lamar Jackson and that I want him 805 00:40:41,880 --> 00:40:43,239 Speaker 1: to be a raven for a long time, and I 806 00:40:43,320 --> 00:40:45,640 Speaker 1: pay him a whole lot of money to do so. 807 00:40:46,239 --> 00:40:48,359 Speaker 1: M hm, and I think he will be. I think 808 00:40:48,400 --> 00:40:51,480 Speaker 1: it's just a matter of timing, um. And it's you know, 809 00:40:51,680 --> 00:40:56,480 Speaker 1: when you're dealing with complicated contracts, many years, many millions 810 00:40:56,520 --> 00:40:59,360 Speaker 1: of dollars, there's a lot of stuff to work out exactly. 811 00:40:59,680 --> 00:41:01,400 Speaker 1: You know, we were, we were talking about what we 812 00:41:01,440 --> 00:41:04,000 Speaker 1: would do as GM. Here's the good news. Thank god, 813 00:41:04,080 --> 00:41:07,000 Speaker 1: I'm not the GM. Thank you're lucky starts it. I'm 814 00:41:07,040 --> 00:41:11,840 Speaker 1: not the GM. I say that all the time. I'm 815 00:41:11,960 --> 00:41:15,959 Speaker 1: glad I'm not our GM because we will be terrible. Yeah, 816 00:41:16,120 --> 00:41:18,239 Speaker 1: I I say that all the time whenever you're making 817 00:41:18,320 --> 00:41:21,200 Speaker 1: your pre draft kind of analysis and saying I watched 818 00:41:21,200 --> 00:41:23,440 Speaker 1: this guy, this guy looks good, and then I always 819 00:41:23,520 --> 00:41:25,600 Speaker 1: you know, there's often times like I wish I could 820 00:41:25,680 --> 00:41:28,080 Speaker 1: have maybe I'm gonna start doing this. I'm gonna just 821 00:41:28,160 --> 00:41:31,760 Speaker 1: start jotting down your take on certain players and seeing 822 00:41:31,840 --> 00:41:34,359 Speaker 1: what happens with them over the course of time. That's 823 00:41:34,400 --> 00:41:36,560 Speaker 1: what I need to do because because there's plenty of 824 00:41:36,600 --> 00:41:38,960 Speaker 1: guys who you come back from the Senior Bowl or 825 00:41:39,040 --> 00:41:42,120 Speaker 1: wherever and you're like, this guy stinks. This guy stinks, 826 00:41:42,600 --> 00:41:44,239 Speaker 1: and then all of a sudden a few years later, 827 00:41:44,440 --> 00:41:46,160 Speaker 1: turns out to be a great player. So I need 828 00:41:46,239 --> 00:41:48,600 Speaker 1: to start tracking that because I'm with you, you would 829 00:41:48,600 --> 00:41:50,240 Speaker 1: be a terrible you know what's you know, it's actually 830 00:41:50,520 --> 00:41:52,279 Speaker 1: funny when you say that. I did go to the 831 00:41:52,320 --> 00:41:54,640 Speaker 1: Senior Bowl and I watched Josh Allen there and he 832 00:41:54,760 --> 00:41:56,759 Speaker 1: was spraying balls all over the field, couldn't hit a 833 00:41:56,760 --> 00:41:59,040 Speaker 1: wide open target. He had a huge arm, but could 834 00:41:59,080 --> 00:42:00,600 Speaker 1: not hit anybody that I was like, dude, that guy, 835 00:42:01,080 --> 00:42:03,080 Speaker 1: I don't think he's got the accuracy to make it work. 836 00:42:03,520 --> 00:42:06,560 Speaker 1: He's pretty good. Yeah, I do remember you come back 837 00:42:06,560 --> 00:42:08,040 Speaker 1: from the Senior Bowl and Saint Josh Allen is not 838 00:42:08,080 --> 00:42:10,719 Speaker 1: going to be an NFL quarterback. No, I did that, 839 00:42:14,719 --> 00:42:17,000 Speaker 1: and I said, I like, I really like Baker Bayfield's boxy. 840 00:42:19,200 --> 00:42:22,440 Speaker 1: So there you go, Ravens fans. Case in point. I'm 841 00:42:22,440 --> 00:42:24,880 Speaker 1: an idiot. So you were right about you were right 842 00:42:24,880 --> 00:42:26,680 Speaker 1: about some things that you said. I'll give you that. 843 00:42:28,000 --> 00:42:31,360 Speaker 1: I agree I'm on board with that. UM. So obviously 844 00:42:31,400 --> 00:42:34,279 Speaker 1: we had a long conversation with Levine. There's still lots 845 00:42:34,360 --> 00:42:36,799 Speaker 1: to discuss. UM. You know. The other big news over 846 00:42:36,840 --> 00:42:38,800 Speaker 1: the course of the last week since we did that 847 00:42:38,840 --> 00:42:41,480 Speaker 1: Blue offic Season Blueprint podcast, as the Ravens have obviously 848 00:42:41,520 --> 00:42:44,720 Speaker 1: part of ways with Wink Martindale as a defensive coordinator. 849 00:42:44,840 --> 00:42:47,239 Speaker 1: This came out on Friday. This was news that that 850 00:42:47,360 --> 00:42:50,920 Speaker 1: I think surprised a good number of people. UM. And 851 00:42:51,560 --> 00:42:53,399 Speaker 1: now they're in the process of finding a new one, 852 00:42:53,440 --> 00:42:55,640 Speaker 1: and I think it's I'll be really curious to see 853 00:42:55,760 --> 00:42:58,920 Speaker 1: where they land in this search for a defensive coordinator 854 00:42:58,960 --> 00:43:02,480 Speaker 1: because there's, first of all, there's obviously the great tradition 855 00:43:02,560 --> 00:43:04,920 Speaker 1: in Baltimore, So it's it's an attractive job to just 856 00:43:05,040 --> 00:43:09,239 Speaker 1: about every coach, the defensive coach in the league. Working 857 00:43:09,280 --> 00:43:11,839 Speaker 1: with John Harball, the culture of the program constant, when 858 00:43:11,880 --> 00:43:14,520 Speaker 1: it's not just the defensive tradition, it's all of it. Well, yeah, 859 00:43:14,520 --> 00:43:16,400 Speaker 1: and I think there's good defensive players and I think 860 00:43:16,440 --> 00:43:18,680 Speaker 1: exactly working for John Harbor, all of that I think 861 00:43:18,760 --> 00:43:21,279 Speaker 1: makes it an incredibly attractive job. I also think the 862 00:43:21,360 --> 00:43:25,359 Speaker 1: Ravens have really good internal and external candidates. You know. Uh, 863 00:43:25,920 --> 00:43:27,480 Speaker 1: and so that to me is going to be an 864 00:43:27,520 --> 00:43:29,960 Speaker 1: interesting thing to navigate in terms of how they end 865 00:43:30,080 --> 00:43:33,719 Speaker 1: up deciding. I mean, there's Chris Hewitt, who has has 866 00:43:33,800 --> 00:43:36,239 Speaker 1: been a rising coach here for a few years, his 867 00:43:36,600 --> 00:43:39,000 Speaker 1: coach of defensive backs in the secondary. You got Drew Wilkins, 868 00:43:39,560 --> 00:43:42,520 Speaker 1: um Anthy Weaver. You have Joe Cohen, who was defensive 869 00:43:42,560 --> 00:43:47,680 Speaker 1: coordinator Anthony Weaver Jackson's that Anthony Weaver. Anthony Weaver who 870 00:43:47,880 --> 00:43:50,280 Speaker 1: was a defensive coordinator in Houston before coming here to Baltimore. 871 00:43:50,280 --> 00:43:52,400 Speaker 1: There's Joe Colan, who was a DC in Jacksonville. This 872 00:43:52,480 --> 00:43:55,080 Speaker 1: year didn't work out for anybody in Jacksonville, but but 873 00:43:55,200 --> 00:43:58,480 Speaker 1: good coach. There's Mike McDonald who was a good coach 874 00:43:58,840 --> 00:44:01,520 Speaker 1: here before going to Michigan, really turning around that defense. 875 00:44:01,800 --> 00:44:04,680 Speaker 1: I mean, those are all great candidates that I just mentioned. Um, 876 00:44:04,840 --> 00:44:07,160 Speaker 1: so I'll just be really curious to see who ends 877 00:44:07,239 --> 00:44:11,360 Speaker 1: up getting this opportunity. Yeah. I think this is honestly 878 00:44:11,440 --> 00:44:14,080 Speaker 1: one of John Harball's strong suits. And uh, you know, 879 00:44:14,200 --> 00:44:17,080 Speaker 1: he obviously decided that he wants to take the defense 880 00:44:17,200 --> 00:44:19,680 Speaker 1: in a in a different direction, and um, you know, 881 00:44:19,800 --> 00:44:23,279 Speaker 1: watching the divisional playoffs and watching Mahomes and and Josh 882 00:44:23,360 --> 00:44:25,920 Speaker 1: Allen go at it and watching Joe Burrow win a 883 00:44:26,000 --> 00:44:29,200 Speaker 1: second playoff game, and you know, considering the Ravens having 884 00:44:29,440 --> 00:44:31,720 Speaker 1: you know, as much troubles as they did against the Bengals, 885 00:44:32,040 --> 00:44:36,279 Speaker 1: given the state of the defensive roster um, you know, 886 00:44:36,520 --> 00:44:38,239 Speaker 1: he decided that it was time to make a change. 887 00:44:38,360 --> 00:44:41,960 Speaker 1: And one of John Harball's strengths is hiring like and 888 00:44:42,360 --> 00:44:47,279 Speaker 1: and and honestly too, it's like going to work on 889 00:44:47,480 --> 00:44:49,920 Speaker 1: that scheme over the off season. Like think about the 890 00:44:50,160 --> 00:44:53,080 Speaker 1: the off season before nineteen when Greg Roman became the 891 00:44:53,120 --> 00:44:57,280 Speaker 1: full time offensive coordinator and they devised an entirely different 892 00:44:57,320 --> 00:45:02,000 Speaker 1: scheme that then set records and was basically unstoppable over 893 00:45:02,080 --> 00:45:04,440 Speaker 1: the course of the regular season the following year. I 894 00:45:04,680 --> 00:45:06,839 Speaker 1: that's what I expect this Ravens defense to do, because 895 00:45:06,880 --> 00:45:10,360 Speaker 1: it's not just a coordinator change, but they're gonna have 896 00:45:10,360 --> 00:45:12,880 Speaker 1: a lot of turnover within the players on the defense, 897 00:45:13,160 --> 00:45:15,920 Speaker 1: I mean the defensive line here. You know, remains to 898 00:45:15,960 --> 00:45:18,279 Speaker 1: be seen whether Claius Campbell hangs it up, remains to 899 00:45:18,320 --> 00:45:20,839 Speaker 1: be seen, whether Brandon Williams is back again next year. 900 00:45:20,920 --> 00:45:23,080 Speaker 1: You know. Derek Wolfe tweeted this week that he just 901 00:45:23,200 --> 00:45:26,719 Speaker 1: had hip surgery, wins he gonna come back. Um, So 902 00:45:26,840 --> 00:45:29,640 Speaker 1: you have defensive line, you know a lot of replacements 903 00:45:29,680 --> 00:45:32,520 Speaker 1: there outside linebacker Ties Bowser just you know, had a 904 00:45:32,600 --> 00:45:34,920 Speaker 1: major injury. At the end of the season. You're you're 905 00:45:34,920 --> 00:45:37,840 Speaker 1: gonna add some more pieces there. The secondary is gonna change, 906 00:45:38,239 --> 00:45:41,920 Speaker 1: like there's changes across the board with personnel, and I 907 00:45:42,000 --> 00:45:44,239 Speaker 1: think it's an opportunity for the Ravens to really sit 908 00:45:44,320 --> 00:45:47,400 Speaker 1: back and say, Okay, let's evaluate what the NFL is 909 00:45:47,560 --> 00:45:50,239 Speaker 1: right now. Who do who we have to beat and 910 00:45:50,360 --> 00:45:52,640 Speaker 1: how are we gonna beat those guys? Right? Like, how 911 00:45:52,680 --> 00:45:54,960 Speaker 1: are we gonna beat Josh Allen and Patrick Mahomes and 912 00:45:55,080 --> 00:45:56,640 Speaker 1: Joe Burrow if they're at the top of their game 913 00:45:56,840 --> 00:46:00,560 Speaker 1: like we've seen in recent weeks and years. Um, and 914 00:46:00,800 --> 00:46:03,840 Speaker 1: I have faith in John Harrible not only to hire 915 00:46:03,880 --> 00:46:07,160 Speaker 1: the right guy to do that, but to also hire 916 00:46:07,200 --> 00:46:08,839 Speaker 1: a guy who's going to come in and put together 917 00:46:08,920 --> 00:46:13,800 Speaker 1: a scheme that is different and able to better contend 918 00:46:13,960 --> 00:46:18,719 Speaker 1: with those kind of teams and quarterbacks. Yeah, So that 919 00:46:19,120 --> 00:46:23,759 Speaker 1: process is ongoing, and uh, just like I said it, 920 00:46:23,840 --> 00:46:27,040 Speaker 1: I'll be really interested to see where the Ravens land. Um. 921 00:46:27,160 --> 00:46:30,080 Speaker 1: And then certainly there could be a ripple effect um 922 00:46:30,560 --> 00:46:33,040 Speaker 1: based on that decision. You know who knows. Also where 923 00:46:33,080 --> 00:46:35,360 Speaker 1: Wink Martindale lands. Does he try to bring any of 924 00:46:35,440 --> 00:46:38,040 Speaker 1: the Ravens defensive coaches with him. I don't know how 925 00:46:38,080 --> 00:46:40,640 Speaker 1: any of that's gonna shake out, but that is definitely 926 00:46:40,680 --> 00:46:42,840 Speaker 1: gonna be something to watch here over the course of 927 00:46:43,120 --> 00:46:46,240 Speaker 1: the next couple of weeks. Absolutely. Anyway, thanks for listening. 928 00:46:46,280 --> 00:46:48,480 Speaker 1: As always, you can reach us at the lounge at 929 00:46:48,600 --> 00:46:52,640 Speaker 1: Ravens dot NFL dot net. I've got good news for you, Garrett. 930 00:46:52,640 --> 00:46:54,799 Speaker 1: I don't know if you know this or listeners out there, 931 00:46:55,520 --> 00:46:59,680 Speaker 1: but there's more T shirts coming. Yes, we're ordering more 932 00:47:00,040 --> 00:47:04,359 Speaker 1: T shirts baby, and a little tweak, a little tweak. 933 00:47:04,400 --> 00:47:07,160 Speaker 1: We're going with the black T shirts this year and 934 00:47:07,280 --> 00:47:12,560 Speaker 1: the primo fabric. Oh, it's gonna be nice. Anyway, we 935 00:47:12,640 --> 00:47:14,520 Speaker 1: got a wait for shipping and handling to come in, 936 00:47:14,920 --> 00:47:16,919 Speaker 1: but I'm just saying they're on their way. It's exciting news. 937 00:47:16,960 --> 00:47:18,239 Speaker 1: We got a lot to talk about and a lot 938 00:47:18,280 --> 00:47:20,480 Speaker 1: of your emails. We have not forgotten about your emails. 939 00:47:20,480 --> 00:47:22,239 Speaker 1: I know they're kind of piling up. We keep saying, well, 940 00:47:22,440 --> 00:47:25,200 Speaker 1: we'll get to them next week. This honestly, we're gonna 941 00:47:25,239 --> 00:47:27,560 Speaker 1: get to them all right, So next week we're reading 942 00:47:27,600 --> 00:47:30,520 Speaker 1: some emails. Absolutely so thank you so much for listening, 943 00:47:30,840 --> 00:47:32,080 Speaker 1: and we'll be back with you next week