WEBVTT - I Do Amazingly Dumb Things 0:00:01.840 --> 0:00:06.160 Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio the George 0:00:06.200 --> 0:00:10.200 Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty. 0:00:10.200 --> 0:00:24.880 Armstrong and Jetty and know He Armstrong and Yetty. 0:00:24.920 --> 0:00:28.720 FBI releasing these images of the Super Scooper aircraft struck 0:00:28.760 --> 0:00:32.320 by a drone while battling the Palisades fire Thursday. That 0:00:32.440 --> 0:00:35.280 whole about three by six inches in size. 0:00:35.520 --> 0:00:38.680 There's so many unauthorized drones in the area that they 0:00:38.680 --> 0:00:42.760 are impacting law enforcement and firefighters' efforts to suppress this 0:00:42.840 --> 0:00:45.800 fire and actually get it continued. I don't know how 0:00:45.800 --> 0:00:47.839 we're going to get a handle on this. It might 0:00:47.880 --> 0:00:49.920 be like the looting thing we were talking about last week. 0:00:49.920 --> 0:00:51.879 You just got to make the penalty so high that 0:00:51.960 --> 0:00:53.640 people won't want to do it and get caught. 0:00:54.680 --> 0:00:55.200 Yeah. 0:00:55.280 --> 0:00:57.760 Yeah, put out the word far and wide. These people 0:00:57.760 --> 0:01:00.960 don't mean any harm, but they could do enormous harm. 0:01:01.080 --> 0:01:04.440 Oh yeah, heck, well, if you ground a plane that is, 0:01:04.800 --> 0:01:07.240 you know, delivering water to the fires, that would be 0:01:07.360 --> 0:01:11.720 that's bad. Now. I suppose the drone people would say 0:01:11.959 --> 0:01:15.399 it's the government trying to stop us from seeing what's 0:01:15.440 --> 0:01:16.039 going on. 0:01:16.640 --> 0:01:23.039 Perhaps, which is a decent argument. Goodness, Yeah, that is intriguing. 0:01:23.600 --> 0:01:28.240 Speaking of which, Mark Zuckerberg increasingly open about the censorship 0:01:28.400 --> 0:01:31.600 that they endured by the executive branch of the United 0:01:31.640 --> 0:01:32.400 States government. 0:01:32.440 --> 0:01:34.000 First Amendment, you say, pshaw. 0:01:34.440 --> 0:01:37.360 More on that next hour, Well got the fabulous Katie 0:01:37.360 --> 0:01:40.160 Grimes of California Globe this hour to talk about how 0:01:40.560 --> 0:01:44.520 awful awful governance left California and Nelle in a position 0:01:44.600 --> 0:01:47.680 that they could not react to what is unquestionably a 0:01:47.760 --> 0:01:48.520 natural disaster. 0:01:48.680 --> 0:01:51.360 This is not the time, finger pointing, Joe, Yes, it is, 0:01:51.440 --> 0:01:52.200 It's perfect time. 0:01:52.280 --> 0:01:52.760 Oh okay. 0:01:53.440 --> 0:01:57.920 I'm literally not a firefighter. I'm not involved in rescuing people. 0:01:57.960 --> 0:01:59.680 So I have all the time in the world and 0:01:59.680 --> 0:02:05.000 happy to do it. So also to come at some point, 0:02:05.040 --> 0:02:08.040 whether today or just this week, a lot of the 0:02:08.040 --> 0:02:11.680 crucial meetings and hearings are about to start for Trump's 0:02:11.720 --> 0:02:14.880 transition cabinet members. That sort of thing Pete hegseeths I 0:02:14.960 --> 0:02:19.160 think is going to lead off the parade for a 0:02:19.200 --> 0:02:22.840 Secretary of Defense, and that hearing could be really really interesting. 0:02:23.639 --> 0:02:25.960 Some of the facets of that, some of the factors 0:02:25.960 --> 0:02:26.880 involved are they. 0:02:26.800 --> 0:02:29.200 Are they going to have him stand up, take off 0:02:29.240 --> 0:02:31.760 his shirt during the hearing and go over each tattoo 0:02:31.800 --> 0:02:33.560 one by one to explain what they mean. 0:02:34.480 --> 0:02:39.079 It will come up absolutely. Elizabeth Warren's going big on it. 0:02:41.120 --> 0:02:45.320 And and they've identified the main whistleblower who was spreading 0:02:45.320 --> 0:02:49.320 stories about Pete being a hard drinking womanizer, etc. And 0:02:49.360 --> 0:02:52.400 it's a disgruntled old employee. No anyway, more on that 0:02:52.480 --> 0:02:54.320 to come this week. So I came across this. I 0:02:54.320 --> 0:02:57.200 thought it was very very interesting. Callum Borcher's was writing 0:02:57.240 --> 0:03:00.080 about a book. It's a little known book called well 0:03:00.200 --> 0:03:03.919 the Basic Laws of Human Stupidity by an Italian economic 0:03:04.040 --> 0:03:08.280 historian who died back in two thousand and he's writing 0:03:08.280 --> 0:03:13.680 about it, and it's so interesting. The chief thing to 0:03:13.760 --> 0:03:18.160 note about this guy's name is simpler Carlo Sippola. 0:03:18.520 --> 0:03:19.840 The chief thing to note about. 0:03:19.639 --> 0:03:22.600 Simple as conception of stupidity is that it is not 0:03:22.919 --> 0:03:26.400 synonymous with what smart and illustrious people think is ill 0:03:26.400 --> 0:03:29.640 advised or foolish. It's far more interesting than that. He 0:03:29.760 --> 0:03:34.320 insists that stupid people are evenly distributed throughout society. And 0:03:34.360 --> 0:03:38.840 this is I've been saying for years. The relationship between 0:03:39.040 --> 0:03:43.800 intelligence and wisdom is far from tight. You have people 0:03:43.840 --> 0:03:47.760 who have enormous candlepower, who are just fools. They just 0:03:48.000 --> 0:03:51.440 can't perceive reality in the way human beings function and 0:03:51.480 --> 0:03:54.160 the results of their grand schemes, even though they're very, 0:03:54.280 --> 0:03:54.800 very bright. 0:03:54.920 --> 0:03:57.640 Anyway, Well, and then that gets the definition of smart, 0:03:57.760 --> 0:04:02.040 since the whole point of life is too navigate life. Well, 0:04:03.360 --> 0:04:06.280 I would think smart would encompass the wisdom part more 0:04:06.320 --> 0:04:07.839 than the candlepower part. 0:04:08.400 --> 0:04:10.480 Sure, from an early age we've all run into the 0:04:10.800 --> 0:04:14.040 question of street smart versus book smart, for instance. These 0:04:14.080 --> 0:04:15.880 are all kind of expressions of the same thing. But 0:04:16.200 --> 0:04:20.120 so he insists that stupid people are evenly distributed throughout society. 0:04:20.360 --> 0:04:23.360 For Cipla, there are, per capita is many stupid people 0:04:23.720 --> 0:04:27.600 among go kart salesmen and swamp dwelling gator hunters as 0:04:27.640 --> 0:04:31.279 there are among laureled economists and tenured intellectual Why. 0:04:31.120 --> 0:04:33.400 Did go kart salesmen come in for a kicking? 0:04:33.880 --> 0:04:36.640 I would have to ask Callum Porcher's I can't imagine 0:04:36.680 --> 0:04:37.360 that's his sentence. 0:04:37.360 --> 0:04:39.520 I'm borrowing. I wouldn't have never car sales. 0:04:39.680 --> 0:04:41.440 I would have never assumed, were I to go buy 0:04:41.440 --> 0:04:43.479 a Go Kart, that the guy selling it to me 0:04:43.600 --> 0:04:46.000 was for some reason stupid because he was in that business. 0:04:46.440 --> 0:04:49.680 I've never had any opinion whatsoever on Go Kart saleswa 0:04:50.080 --> 0:04:51.919 other than that they're a great place to go to 0:04:51.960 --> 0:04:53.559 purchase a go cart. 0:04:54.360 --> 0:04:58.520 It's an odd example. You're so right moving along. So 0:04:58.960 --> 0:05:10.640 Sipla divides people into four categories, helpless, bandit as in like, thief, intelligent, 0:05:11.200 --> 0:05:16.000 and stupid. In any normal interaction between two people, he contends, 0:05:16.279 --> 0:05:20.000 the helpless suffer. The helpless person suffers a loss while 0:05:20.040 --> 0:05:24.679 the other gains. They're just not They're not smart enough 0:05:24.760 --> 0:05:25.240 that they're not. 0:05:26.040 --> 0:05:28.360 They just they lose. The other guy wins. 0:05:28.640 --> 0:05:33.680 Okay, the bandit exacts a benefit while levying a loss 0:05:33.720 --> 0:05:34.280 on the other. 0:05:34.440 --> 0:05:36.520 So the bandit and the helpless often get together. 0:05:36.920 --> 0:05:41.039 The intelligent person gains while enabling the other person to 0:05:41.200 --> 0:05:46.680 also gain. The defining trait of the stupid person is 0:05:46.720 --> 0:05:49.160 that he gains nothing while. 0:05:48.920 --> 0:05:53.360 Obliging the other to take a loss. To wit. 0:05:54.800 --> 0:05:58.160 The astounding fact of recent years, oh they mentioned. One 0:05:58.160 --> 0:06:00.600 of the blurbs on the book jacket seem to imply 0:06:00.760 --> 0:06:03.920 that like Trump is not smart, because one of the 0:06:04.000 --> 0:06:07.760 quotes is I'm like a smart guy. But, as Bortier's writes, 0:06:07.800 --> 0:06:09.960 if the publicity of people who read the book at 0:06:09.960 --> 0:06:14.280 all they would have realized that's utterly inaccurate. The astounding 0:06:14.279 --> 0:06:17.120 factor of recent years is that mister Trump's chief political opponent, 0:06:17.240 --> 0:06:21.120 Miss Joe Biden, is a perfect specimen of Simple's idea 0:06:21.120 --> 0:06:24.359 of stupidity. For four years, Biden has made decisions and 0:06:24.400 --> 0:06:28.760 pursued policies that made his supporters, party, country, and foreign 0:06:28.760 --> 0:06:32.039 allies worse off, and in almost every case he gained 0:06:32.160 --> 0:06:37.120 nothing and very often suffered commensurate political losses. You could 0:06:37.160 --> 0:06:39.360 make a coaching argument that mister Biden belongs in the 0:06:39.400 --> 0:06:42.600 category of helpless. So often do his decisions benefit as 0:06:42.640 --> 0:06:47.160 political adversaries, chiefly mister Trump, But those blunders principle among 0:06:47.160 --> 0:06:50.160 them his insistence that he was capable of running for reelection, 0:06:50.400 --> 0:06:54.040 have exacted massive costs on the rest of the country. 0:06:54.160 --> 0:06:58.280 Here's some examples. So again, a stupid person is a. 0:06:58.240 --> 0:07:02.160 Person who causes other people suffer and gains nothing from it. 0:07:02.240 --> 0:07:06.800 Well, do we all move between these different categories or 0:07:06.800 --> 0:07:09.280 are we? Do we tend to be just one category? 0:07:09.320 --> 0:07:11.040 You're either one or one or the other. 0:07:12.440 --> 0:07:14.760 No, I think the first one is right, But it's 0:07:14.760 --> 0:07:18.880 a question of percentage. I like to think I don't 0:07:18.880 --> 0:07:21.640 do many things or say many things that gain me 0:07:21.800 --> 0:07:27.760 nothing and hurt you know, everybody else. But anyway, here's 0:07:27.760 --> 0:07:30.000 some examples, just to solidify it in your head. For 0:07:30.080 --> 0:07:32.400 three years, Biden made it policy to do nothing on 0:07:32.440 --> 0:07:35.880 the country's southern border apart from revoking Trump's executive orders. 0:07:35.960 --> 0:07:40.480 What did he gain from this dereliction nothing? The answer 0:07:40.520 --> 0:07:43.400 is not obvious at all. Mister Biden overwrote his military 0:07:43.400 --> 0:07:46.960 advisors and insisted on a total and immediate withdrawal from Afghanistan, 0:07:47.120 --> 0:07:50.360 with no clear plan to extract Afghan allies, US citizens, 0:07:50.440 --> 0:07:53.520 or American military hardware. A loss for the US, for sure, 0:07:53.680 --> 0:07:56.480 But where was the benefit to mister Biden or his administration. 0:07:57.720 --> 0:08:00.000 Starting in twenty twenty one, Jack, You'll love this one, 0:08:00.240 --> 0:08:05.000 the President repeatedly compared an innocuous post pandemic election reform 0:08:05.000 --> 0:08:08.720 in Georgia to Jim Crow, maybe the most toxic accusation 0:08:08.800 --> 0:08:11.760 that it's possible to make an American politics. In doing so, 0:08:11.840 --> 0:08:15.400 he made himself odious to the opposition party and ensured 0:08:15.440 --> 0:08:17.920 he would pass nothing further from its support. 0:08:18.240 --> 0:08:19.320 What was in it for him? 0:08:21.360 --> 0:08:28.080 Maybe momentary momentary enthusiasm of his base. Mister Biden openly 0:08:28.160 --> 0:08:31.440 defied the Supreme Court's ruling on his student debt cancelation plans. 0:08:31.600 --> 0:08:34.320 The Justice has tried to block me, but they didn't 0:08:34.360 --> 0:08:34.840 stop me. 0:08:35.080 --> 0:08:35.440 Jack. 0:08:36.080 --> 0:08:38.959 He thus managed to sew resentment among Americans whose debts 0:08:38.960 --> 0:08:41.800 he did not forgive, encouraged a generation to indulge in 0:08:41.800 --> 0:08:44.680 foolish borrowing, and make himself look like the lawless strong 0:08:44.720 --> 0:08:47.840 man he accused Trump of being. In each of these instances, 0:08:47.880 --> 0:08:50.400 and there are many others, mister Biden not only created 0:08:50.520 --> 0:08:53.680 ruined discord and embarrassment for those who wished him well, 0:08:53.760 --> 0:08:56.760 he did so without gaining any advantage for himself. 0:08:58.240 --> 0:09:01.520 Biden's giving his final foreign Paul See speech today, and 0:09:01.920 --> 0:09:04.520 so that came up on some of the shows over 0:09:04.559 --> 0:09:08.000 the weekend, and I heard a clip from I think 0:09:08.559 --> 0:09:11.439 the National Security Advisor who is. 0:09:13.760 --> 0:09:20.000 Abe Lincoln? Uh Sullivan? I get them mixed up. The names, Yeah, 0:09:20.400 --> 0:09:21.400 I know them when I see them. 0:09:21.400 --> 0:09:25.040 But anyway, who said history is going to judge this well, 0:09:25.320 --> 0:09:29.439 the the leaving Afghanistan it's getting better by the day. 0:09:29.480 --> 0:09:32.000 And I thought, wow, I don't think that's accurate, but. 0:09:33.040 --> 0:09:35.600 Wow, well, I think he's spinning madly. It's not a 0:09:35.640 --> 0:09:39.120 question of whether we left it Afghanistan. It's how and when. 0:09:41.240 --> 0:09:44.480 My gosh, the dishonesty is unbelievable. And Borchers gives a 0:09:44.480 --> 0:09:49.280 couple more examples, But yeah, I think he's right, you know, 0:09:49.320 --> 0:09:52.720 the communing of the death sentences, all sorts of things. 0:09:54.120 --> 0:09:58.040 He gained nothing and hurt America. What a dope. He 0:09:58.080 --> 0:09:59.720 can't be gone soon enough one week? 0:10:00.520 --> 0:10:04.480 Well, the flip side of stupidity being intelligence or whatever. 0:10:04.679 --> 0:10:09.719 I'm surprised we haven't gotten better at nailing down terms 0:10:09.760 --> 0:10:12.240 for that or ways to look at it as opposed 0:10:12.280 --> 0:10:15.080 to just a blanket statement of somebody smart or not. 0:10:16.000 --> 0:10:22.360 Yeah, I prefer wise or unwise, honestly too smarter or not. Yeah. 0:10:22.520 --> 0:10:24.559 I mean I've known some people who are quote unquote 0:10:24.600 --> 0:10:27.640 simple of you know, education and speech and manner or whatever, 0:10:27.720 --> 0:10:29.359 but they would not make a misstep. 0:10:29.800 --> 0:10:34.480 They're very wise, right right. Yeah, that's a good one. Hmm. 0:10:35.760 --> 0:10:37.440 And that's its own intelligence, isn't it. 0:10:37.480 --> 0:10:40.880 So I do amazingly dumb things, I mean just shockingly dumb. 0:10:40.920 --> 0:10:43.319 Sometimes sometimes I sit down and I look at look 0:10:43.360 --> 0:10:45.320 at it, look at the mirror, and think, how could 0:10:45.400 --> 0:10:47.439 you possibly have done that or made that decision? 0:10:47.440 --> 0:10:51.480 That's just I mean shocking to me, what's that the core? 0:10:51.520 --> 0:10:54.640 Do you suppose? Distraction? Hastiness? I mean, you're not a 0:10:54.679 --> 0:10:59.200 stupid man by anybody's definition, but hastiness, that's a good one. 0:10:59.280 --> 0:11:03.839 Maybe that's it. I don't know. I think it might 0:11:03.880 --> 0:11:09.640 just be dumb. It might just be dumb. Man. Why 0:11:09.640 --> 0:11:11.120 don't we have folks right in? 0:11:12.160 --> 0:11:14.839 Four one, five, two nine five KFTC is playing on 0:11:14.920 --> 0:11:19.800 the text number like I often tweet things out knowing 0:11:19.920 --> 0:11:22.120 some of the reactions I'm gonna get, and I get hateful, 0:11:22.160 --> 0:11:24.520 hateful reactions, and showing to my kids just to give 0:11:24.559 --> 0:11:26.199 them an idea of what the world is like. 0:11:26.400 --> 0:11:29.880 They can't believe some of the things people say. I mean, 0:11:30.000 --> 0:11:32.080 just show horribly bad things. 0:11:32.720 --> 0:11:33.480 Right right. 0:11:34.000 --> 0:11:35.840 I was in a discussion with some friends the other 0:11:35.960 --> 0:11:39.959 day about I'll keep it vague, but people who like 0:11:40.360 --> 0:11:43.599 expressed strong opinions over stuff they had no right to 0:11:43.720 --> 0:11:49.200 about my friends' lives and generally young, semi woke, full 0:11:49.280 --> 0:11:52.840 of themselves people. And I said, you know, it's mildly annoying, 0:11:52.880 --> 0:11:54.760 but I just don't worry about it. I've spent thirty 0:11:54.800 --> 0:11:58.440 plus years having people saying you suck, You're a bad American, 0:11:58.480 --> 0:12:00.360 You're bad at your job, you're a bad parent. 0:12:00.440 --> 0:12:03.520 You should die. So it's like, eh, there's another one. 0:12:03.720 --> 0:12:07.120 The appropriate finger pointing has begun on the whole fire 0:12:07.280 --> 0:12:08.600 debacle in LA. 0:12:09.480 --> 0:12:12.000 It didn't have to be this bad. Who's to blame? 0:12:12.000 --> 0:12:14.960 We're gonna talk to Katie Grimes, great reporter about California 0:12:15.000 --> 0:12:17.360 politics coming up this hour, and get into that, among 0:12:17.400 --> 0:12:17.760 other things. 0:12:17.800 --> 0:12:22.080 Stay here by sign. 0:12:22.280 --> 0:12:25.120 Washington won a wild card game, won a playoff game. 0:12:25.800 --> 0:12:28.800 It was two thousand and five. Here chance to do 0:12:28.920 --> 0:12:31.720 it with Gonzales from thirty. 0:12:31.559 --> 0:12:33.839 Seven to send Washington to the final eight. 0:12:37.920 --> 0:12:45.200 The Washington coming head. Here's a thing is tight, Klain 0:12:45.880 --> 0:12:47.240 tell the defensive round. 0:12:48.520 --> 0:12:52.480 Believe I have seen it all now I even get 0:12:52.640 --> 0:12:54.040 a defensional thy. 0:12:55.040 --> 0:12:57.480 That's twice in a couple of weeks. 0:12:57.559 --> 0:12:59.679 The Chiefs did it a couple of weeks ago, and 0:12:59.800 --> 0:13:01.760 that that's why they have the best record in the NFL. 0:13:01.920 --> 0:13:04.400 To home field throught is hit up right and the 0:13:04.440 --> 0:13:07.079 ball bounces through. How does that happen twice in a 0:13:07.120 --> 0:13:08.960 couple of weeks in important games? It's interesting. 0:13:09.000 --> 0:13:11.440 You gotta rub that ball up with vasolene before you cant. 0:13:11.800 --> 0:13:14.800 This is also dumb if it were the Washington Redskins. 0:13:14.800 --> 0:13:16.920 I'd have been pretty excited about that game and them winning, 0:13:17.120 --> 0:13:19.200 But because they changed their name to Commanders, I got 0:13:19.240 --> 0:13:21.920 no feeling for it, which is all completely made up 0:13:21.960 --> 0:13:24.040 in my head, imaginary. 0:13:23.480 --> 0:13:27.640 Because of your racism. Just like I don't know, I 0:13:27.679 --> 0:13:29.959 don't know, I have no feel. My boyfriend's a big 0:13:30.040 --> 0:13:33.880 Commanders fans converted. 0:13:33.960 --> 0:13:36.240 I think every NFL team that was supposed to win 0:13:36.559 --> 0:13:39.480 one all the favored teams once, so they're no upsets 0:13:39.520 --> 0:13:42.240 first round, although we got one more game tonight Rams 0:13:42.520 --> 0:13:46.559 Lions in Arizona because of the fires, not Rams Lions, 0:13:46.679 --> 0:13:47.439 Rams Vikings. 0:13:47.559 --> 0:13:48.079 Sorry about that. 0:13:50.720 --> 0:13:53.439 So I'll get to why my teenage crush is on 0:13:53.640 --> 0:13:58.520 my side of the story on looting in a second, 0:13:59.040 --> 0:14:02.240 but a couple of just before we get to the 0:14:02.320 --> 0:14:05.319 politics of it, next segment of what's going on in California, 0:14:05.440 --> 0:14:07.880 which could have affected a lot of things politically. Really, 0:14:11.120 --> 0:14:15.360 millionaires in the Palisades area are shelling out two thousand 0:14:15.400 --> 0:14:19.360 dollars an hour for private firefighters as various neighborhoods are 0:14:19.400 --> 0:14:24.480 being abandoned, it says here by the official firefighting teams. 0:14:25.040 --> 0:14:27.120 I think that's a prejudicial term. I mean they've only 0:14:27.160 --> 0:14:28.760 got so many resources, and they can only go so 0:14:28.840 --> 0:14:31.440 many places. And I don't know if you're two thousand 0:14:31.480 --> 0:14:33.960 dollars an hour, private firefighters will do you any good 0:14:34.000 --> 0:14:34.160 or not. 0:14:34.240 --> 0:14:36.480 I have no idea. Probably depends on where you are. 0:14:38.560 --> 0:14:41.800 The Palisades fire, the biggest fire that's still barely contained 0:14:42.080 --> 0:14:43.720 and has burnt down most of the buildings. 0:14:44.280 --> 0:14:45.600 Likely caused by. 0:14:50.120 --> 0:14:54.360 Of fireworks, they think, now, really, yeah, some fireworks that 0:14:54.440 --> 0:14:56.480 went off and then the fire didn't get completely put 0:14:56.520 --> 0:14:58.560 up from from New Year's Eve. That's what the New 0:14:58.640 --> 0:15:03.000 York Poster was reporting last anyway, So he smoldered for 0:15:03.040 --> 0:15:05.200 a while, right, yes, And that was the whole story 0:15:05.240 --> 0:15:07.240 about how these things about how hard it is to 0:15:07.280 --> 0:15:09.040 put out a campfire and you got to be certain 0:15:09.080 --> 0:15:11.000 and drown it and water, then drown it and water again. 0:15:11.240 --> 0:15:12.960 And they think that's what happened here with fireworks. I 0:15:13.040 --> 0:15:14.320 have no idea if that's what happened or not now, 0:15:14.360 --> 0:15:16.280 But that was the reporting in the New York Post. 0:15:17.040 --> 0:15:21.120 The death toll is now twenty four and what a horrible, 0:15:21.120 --> 0:15:23.000 horrible story. We'll talk about the politics coming up a 0:15:23.040 --> 0:15:26.880 little bit. So Gavin Newsom, he was very unhappy that 0:15:29.000 --> 0:15:32.640 people were talking about looting being legal in California. He 0:15:32.720 --> 0:15:36.760 put out this tweet yesterday. Stop encouraging looting by lying 0:15:36.800 --> 0:15:38.280 and telling people it's decriminalized. 0:15:38.320 --> 0:15:38.600 It's not. 0:15:39.120 --> 0:15:41.960 It's illegal, it always has been. Bad actors will be 0:15:42.080 --> 0:15:45.040 arrested and prosecuted. Okay, well, if you live in California, 0:15:45.160 --> 0:15:47.840 you know how bad actors have not been arrested and 0:15:47.920 --> 0:15:50.960 prosecuted for quite some years now, Justine, and in fact. 0:15:50.800 --> 0:15:53.120 Those that were were turned loose from the prisons. 0:15:53.200 --> 0:15:56.680 Gavy, my teenage crushed Justine Bateman, who is Michael J. 0:15:56.800 --> 0:16:00.280 Fox's sister on Family Ties, and when I was like 0:16:00.360 --> 0:16:02.320 thirteen years old, I thought she was the cutest singing 0:16:02.360 --> 0:16:04.280 had ever lived, and just like had started all the 0:16:04.320 --> 0:16:06.920 chemicals flowing in my brain. She is now a regular 0:16:07.520 --> 0:16:12.080 tweeter on x. She tweeted it like he because she 0:16:12.320 --> 0:16:16.200 was a liberal. She is definitely not in real life. 0:16:16.720 --> 0:16:20.120 She tweeted out, you and Gascone and Bass sent out 0:16:20.160 --> 0:16:22.640 the invitations long ago to all criminals to come to 0:16:22.720 --> 0:16:25.920 California and LA and practice their craft. You boasted that 0:16:25.920 --> 0:16:29.960 you would not prosecute rioters, trespassers, looters, shoplifters, et cetera, 0:16:30.080 --> 0:16:32.680 and they came from other states, from other countries. You 0:16:32.800 --> 0:16:35.520 created a hostile living environment for all of us. That 0:16:35.640 --> 0:16:37.840 anyone thinks they can loot and commit arson in Los 0:16:37.840 --> 0:16:40.480 Angeles or anywhere in California with impunity is because you 0:16:40.680 --> 0:16:44.240 made sure they got an invitation. That is certainly true 0:16:44.560 --> 0:16:48.120 of Gascone and a lot of the not prosecuting crime 0:16:48.200 --> 0:16:51.720 all across California. You've created a culture where people think 0:16:51.800 --> 0:16:54.640 they can steal and get away with it. Denying that 0:16:54.840 --> 0:16:58.720 Gavin is living in a fantasy world. All right, he 0:16:58.880 --> 0:17:03.520 knows what he's done. Happy that my teenage crush is 0:17:03.600 --> 0:17:06.120 on the right side of this argument. That is fabulous 0:17:06.240 --> 0:17:06.879 on many levels. 0:17:07.119 --> 0:17:10.760 The fabulous Katie Grimes of the California Globe knows everything 0:17:10.800 --> 0:17:13.200 there is to know about California politics and what's going 0:17:13.240 --> 0:17:14.240 on in LA with the fires. 0:17:14.280 --> 0:17:17.720 Stay with us, Armstrong and Getty. Did they fail you? 0:17:17.920 --> 0:17:20.080 That is our job and I tell you that's why 0:17:20.119 --> 0:17:21.920 I'm here. So let's get us what we need so 0:17:22.119 --> 0:17:23.480 firefighters can do their jobs. 0:17:23.640 --> 0:17:25.720 Do they fail you? Yes. 0:17:26.240 --> 0:17:29.520 When a firefighter comes up to a hydrant, we expect 0:17:29.560 --> 0:17:29.920 there's going. 0:17:29.920 --> 0:17:31.760 To be water. We don't control the water supply. 0:17:32.480 --> 0:17:35.119 Our firefighters are there to protect lives and property and 0:17:35.240 --> 0:17:37.080 to make sure that we're properly trained and equipped. 0:17:37.359 --> 0:17:39.600 Does the buck stop with you? I mean, hey, you're 0:17:39.640 --> 0:17:42.720 governor of California. Inviting it will be the mayor of California. 0:17:43.480 --> 0:17:45.359 We're all in this together. We're all better off. 0:17:45.359 --> 0:17:46.960 We're all better off, we're all better off, and we're 0:17:47.000 --> 0:17:47.800 working together. 0:17:47.600 --> 0:17:48.440 To take care of people. 0:17:48.840 --> 0:17:51.280 So at first clip happened on Friday. It's La Fire 0:17:51.440 --> 0:17:54.800 Chief Kristin Crowley. They had to drag the answer out 0:17:54.800 --> 0:17:57.280 of her, but she finally did offer up. 0:17:57.480 --> 0:17:57.680 Yes. 0:17:58.000 --> 0:18:01.800 They the city council and the mayor failed us, and 0:18:01.920 --> 0:18:04.680 then Gavin Newsom mashed this morning or last night? 0:18:04.800 --> 0:18:08.919 Does the buck stop with you? Hamanahuamanahamana hamna bad answer? 0:18:09.000 --> 0:18:14.480 Politically indeed, to discuss the politics and the realities of 0:18:14.560 --> 0:18:17.760 the fire and how they intertwine. Please welcome to the 0:18:17.840 --> 0:18:21.240 show the editor in chief of the California Globe, Katie Grimes, 0:18:21.240 --> 0:18:24.040 who's been writing about California politics for Ages and Ages. 0:18:24.080 --> 0:18:24.639 Katie, how are you? 0:18:26.080 --> 0:18:27.639 I am well, thanks for having me. 0:18:27.720 --> 0:18:29.679 Jack and Joe, Oh, it's always a pleasure. 0:18:29.800 --> 0:18:32.320 So I want to use as a springboard your last 0:18:32.400 --> 0:18:36.200 couple of columns for The Globe at first of all, 0:18:36.280 --> 0:18:39.040 which published last week, which touches on a couple of things. 0:18:39.119 --> 0:18:41.000 I just if you can give the nickel version for 0:18:41.119 --> 0:18:47.240 people of the insurance crisis in California, how many people 0:18:47.320 --> 0:18:49.879 weren't insured or had just gotten dropped and why that is? 0:18:49.920 --> 0:18:53.040 Because I heard an utterly, utterly misleading description of it 0:18:53.400 --> 0:18:58.280 from professional liar Kristin Welker on Meet the Press Sunday. 0:18:58.320 --> 0:19:00.600 But go ahead, Katie, what's the real situation insurance wise? 0:19:01.640 --> 0:19:05.119 Well, the insurance crisis in California is devastating and it's 0:19:05.200 --> 0:19:09.680 hitting people, you know, north State, South State, everywhere. I 0:19:09.800 --> 0:19:12.560 don't think we have any numbers at the moment of 0:19:12.640 --> 0:19:16.240 how many people, say in Pacific Palisades, had their fire 0:19:16.359 --> 0:19:21.680 insurance canceled, or even homeowners in many cases with insurance companies, 0:19:21.800 --> 0:19:25.119 you know, fleeing the state along with half of California, 0:19:25.160 --> 0:19:30.000 it seems. But it is absolutely devastating because you know, 0:19:30.080 --> 0:19:34.600 you think back to the campfire up here in Paradise, California, 0:19:34.720 --> 0:19:39.440 your Sacramento, and you know that was unbelievably devastating, but 0:19:39.600 --> 0:19:44.840 it was also unbelievably costly for insurers. And then the 0:19:45.000 --> 0:19:47.600 calder Fire a couple of years later, and then. 0:19:49.400 --> 0:19:51.480 We're just looking for broad strokes, just a very quick 0:19:51.520 --> 0:19:54.200 description of what's wrong with insurance in California. 0:19:55.320 --> 0:19:58.320 What's wrong with it is politics purely. And this goes 0:19:58.359 --> 0:20:01.119 back to Proposition one O three, which was put on 0:20:01.280 --> 0:20:07.640 the ballot to essentially tap the amount of premiums insurance 0:20:07.680 --> 0:20:11.280 companies could impose on the insured, rather than fixing the 0:20:11.359 --> 0:20:14.040 problem of why it costs so much to build and 0:20:14.240 --> 0:20:16.760 rebuild here in California. 0:20:16.760 --> 0:20:20.720 And it ordered them to only look at historical data 0:20:20.800 --> 0:20:23.040 as opposed to current data for building costs, and the 0:20:23.080 --> 0:20:24.560 rest of it is utterly unrealistic. 0:20:25.560 --> 0:20:28.760 It is entirely unrealistic. And boy, we're going to see 0:20:28.800 --> 0:20:31.800 what a disaster, a financial disaster this is going to 0:20:31.920 --> 0:20:34.000 be following the fires. 0:20:34.760 --> 0:20:37.120 And then I know you wrote about water as well, 0:20:37.280 --> 0:20:40.840 in the fact that California has built no water storage 0:20:41.040 --> 0:20:43.719 in generations, even as the populations doubled. 0:20:43.760 --> 0:20:45.520 It's just terrible governance. 0:20:46.640 --> 0:20:50.320 Yes, absolutely, Not only have we not built any water 0:20:50.440 --> 0:20:53.159 storage in years, the voters have passed over thirty two 0:20:53.200 --> 0:20:56.119 billion dollars in water bonds to do just that in 0:20:56.280 --> 0:20:58.720 thirty years, and the last one was Proposition one in 0:20:58.760 --> 0:21:03.040 twenty fourteen, which would it set aside two point seven 0:21:03.080 --> 0:21:05.720 billion dollars so that we could build the site's reservoir 0:21:05.800 --> 0:21:09.880 and the Temperance Flat reservoir, none of which has been done. 0:21:10.280 --> 0:21:14.960 And in the meantime, the amount of water that flows 0:21:15.400 --> 0:21:19.840 from our snowpack melt and our rain has increased from 0:21:19.960 --> 0:21:23.159 fifty percent of the state's water to eighty percent of 0:21:23.280 --> 0:21:26.040 the state's water goes straight out to the Pacific Ocean 0:21:26.600 --> 0:21:29.800 to save some fish that aren't even indigenous. 0:21:30.880 --> 0:21:34.359 Well, yeah, how fair is it to lay blame at 0:21:34.440 --> 0:21:36.480 the foot of either the mayor of Los Angeles, the 0:21:36.520 --> 0:21:38.960 governor of California City Council of LA or you know, 0:21:39.080 --> 0:21:43.240 government officials in this soon to be biggest disaster in 0:21:43.320 --> 0:21:44.280 California history. 0:21:45.440 --> 0:21:49.040 Well, I think Avenussom's responses show you exactly how fair 0:21:49.119 --> 0:21:52.480 it is. He's running as fast as he can from responsibility, 0:21:52.600 --> 0:21:55.760