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Speaker 1: Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio the George

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Speaker 1: Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty.

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Speaker 2: Armstrong and Jetty and know He Armstrong and Yetty.

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Speaker 3: FBI releasing these images of the Super Scooper aircraft struck

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Speaker 3: by a drone while battling the Palisades fire Thursday. That

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Speaker 3: whole about three by six inches in size.

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Speaker 4: There's so many unauthorized drones in the area that they

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Speaker 4: are impacting law enforcement and firefighters' efforts to suppress this

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Speaker 4: fire and actually get it continued. I don't know how

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Speaker 4: we're going to get a handle on this. It might

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Speaker 4: be like the looting thing we were talking about last week.

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Speaker 4: You just got to make the penalty so high that

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Speaker 4: people won't want to do it and get caught.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, put out the word far and wide. These people

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Speaker 1: don't mean any harm, but they could do enormous harm.

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Speaker 4: Oh yeah, heck, well, if you ground a plane that is,

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Speaker 4: you know, delivering water to the fires, that would be

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Speaker 4: that's bad. Now. I suppose the drone people would say

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Speaker 4: it's the government trying to stop us from seeing what's

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Speaker 4: going on.

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Speaker 2: Perhaps, which is a decent argument. Goodness, Yeah, that is intriguing.

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Speaker 1: Speaking of which, Mark Zuckerberg increasingly open about the censorship

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Speaker 1: that they endured by the executive branch of the United

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Speaker 1: States government.

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Speaker 2: First Amendment, you say, pshaw.

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Speaker 1: More on that next hour, Well got the fabulous Katie

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Speaker 1: Grimes of California Globe this hour to talk about how

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Speaker 1: awful awful governance left California and Nelle in a position

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Speaker 1: that they could not react to what is unquestionably a

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Speaker 1: natural disaster.

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Speaker 4: This is not the time, finger pointing, Joe, Yes, it is,

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Speaker 4: It's perfect time.

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Speaker 2: Oh okay.

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Speaker 1: I'm literally not a firefighter. I'm not involved in rescuing people.

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Speaker 1: So I have all the time in the world and

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Speaker 1: happy to do it. So also to come at some point,

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Speaker 1: whether today or just this week, a lot of the

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Speaker 1: crucial meetings and hearings are about to start for Trump's

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Speaker 1: transition cabinet members. That sort of thing Pete hegseeths I

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Speaker 1: think is going to lead off the parade for a

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Speaker 1: Secretary of Defense, and that hearing could be really really interesting.

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Speaker 1: Some of the facets of that, some of the factors

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Speaker 1: involved are they.

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Speaker 4: Are they going to have him stand up, take off

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Speaker 4: his shirt during the hearing and go over each tattoo

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Speaker 4: one by one to explain what they mean.

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Speaker 1: It will come up absolutely. Elizabeth Warren's going big on it.

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Speaker 1: And and they've identified the main whistleblower who was spreading

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Speaker 1: stories about Pete being a hard drinking womanizer, etc. And

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Speaker 1: it's a disgruntled old employee. No anyway, more on that

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Speaker 1: to come this week. So I came across this. I

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Speaker 1: thought it was very very interesting. Callum Borcher's was writing

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Speaker 1: about a book. It's a little known book called well

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Speaker 1: the Basic Laws of Human Stupidity by an Italian economic

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Speaker 1: historian who died back in two thousand and he's writing

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Speaker 1: about it, and it's so interesting. The chief thing to

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Speaker 1: note about this guy's name is simpler Carlo Sippola.

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Speaker 2: The chief thing to note about.

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Speaker 1: Simple as conception of stupidity is that it is not

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Speaker 1: synonymous with what smart and illustrious people think is ill

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Speaker 1: advised or foolish. It's far more interesting than that. He

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Speaker 1: insists that stupid people are evenly distributed throughout society. And

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Speaker 1: this is I've been saying for years. The relationship between

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Speaker 1: intelligence and wisdom is far from tight. You have people

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Speaker 1: who have enormous candlepower, who are just fools. They just

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Speaker 1: can't perceive reality in the way human beings function and

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Speaker 1: the results of their grand schemes, even though they're very,

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Speaker 4: Anyway, Well, and then that gets the definition of smart,

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Speaker 4: since the whole point of life is too navigate life. Well,

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Speaker 4: I would think smart would encompass the wisdom part more

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Speaker 4: than the candlepower part.

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Speaker 1: Sure, from an early age we've all run into the

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Speaker 1: question of street smart versus book smart, for instance. These

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Speaker 1: are all kind of expressions of the same thing. But

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Speaker 1: so he insists that stupid people are evenly distributed throughout society.

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Speaker 1: For Cipla, there are, per capita is many stupid people

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Speaker 1: among go kart salesmen and swamp dwelling gator hunters as

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Speaker 1: there are among laureled economists and tenured intellectual Why.

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Speaker 2: Did go kart salesmen come in for a kicking?

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Speaker 1: I would have to ask Callum Porcher's I can't imagine

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Speaker 1: that's his sentence.

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Speaker 2: I'm borrowing. I wouldn't have never car sales.

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Speaker 4: I would have never assumed, were I to go buy

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Speaker 4: a Go Kart, that the guy selling it to me

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Speaker 4: I've never had any opinion whatsoever on Go Kart saleswa

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Speaker 4: other than that they're a great place to go to

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Speaker 1: It's an odd example. You're so right moving along. So

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Speaker 1: Sipla divides people into four categories, helpless, bandit as in like, thief, intelligent,

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Speaker 1: and stupid. In any normal interaction between two people, he contends,

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Speaker 1: the helpless suffer. The helpless person suffers a loss while

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Speaker 1: the other gains. They're just not They're not smart enough

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Speaker 1: that they're not.

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Speaker 2: They just they lose. The other guy wins.

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Speaker 1: Okay, the bandit exacts a benefit while levying a loss

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Speaker 2: So the bandit and the helpless often get together.

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Speaker 1: The intelligent person gains while enabling the other person to

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Speaker 1: also gain. The defining trait of the stupid person is

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Speaker 1: that he gains nothing while.

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Speaker 2: Obliging the other to take a loss. To wit.

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Speaker 1: The astounding fact of recent years, oh they mentioned. One

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Speaker 1: of the blurbs on the book jacket seem to imply

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Speaker 1: that like Trump is not smart, because one of the

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Speaker 1: quotes is I'm like a smart guy. But, as Bortier's writes,

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Speaker 1: all they would have realized that's utterly inaccurate. The astounding

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Speaker 1: factor of recent years is that mister Trump's chief political opponent,

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Speaker 1: Miss Joe Biden, is a perfect specimen of Simple's idea

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Speaker 1: of stupidity. For four years, Biden has made decisions and

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Speaker 1: pursued policies that made his supporters, party, country, and foreign

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Speaker 1: nothing and very often suffered commensurate political losses. You could

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Speaker 1: make a coaching argument that mister Biden belongs in the

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Speaker 1: category of helpless. So often do his decisions benefit as

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Speaker 1: political adversaries, chiefly mister Trump, But those blunders principle among

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Speaker 1: them his insistence that he was capable of running for reelection,

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Speaker 1: have exacted massive costs on the rest of the country.

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Speaker 2: Here's some examples. So again, a stupid person is a.

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Speaker 1: Person who causes other people suffer and gains nothing from it.

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Speaker 4: Well, do we all move between these different categories or

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Speaker 4: are we? Do we tend to be just one category?

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Speaker 4: You're either one or one or the other.

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Speaker 1: No, I think the first one is right, But it's

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Speaker 1: a question of percentage. I like to think I don't

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Speaker 1: do many things or say many things that gain me

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Speaker 1: nothing and hurt you know, everybody else. But anyway, here's

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Speaker 1: some examples, just to solidify it in your head. For

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Speaker 1: three years, Biden made it policy to do nothing on

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Speaker 1: What did he gain from this dereliction nothing? The answer

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Speaker 1: is not obvious at all. Mister Biden overwrote his military

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Speaker 1: advisors and insisted on a total and immediate withdrawal from Afghanistan,

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Speaker 1: with no clear plan to extract Afghan allies, US citizens,

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Speaker 1: or American military hardware. A loss for the US, for sure,

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Speaker 1: But where was the benefit to mister Biden or his administration.

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Speaker 1: Starting in twenty twenty one, Jack, You'll love this one,

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Speaker 1: the President repeatedly compared an innocuous post pandemic election reform

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Speaker 1: in Georgia to Jim Crow, maybe the most toxic accusation

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Speaker 1: that it's possible to make an American politics. In doing so,

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Speaker 1: he made himself odious to the opposition party and ensured

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Speaker 1: he would pass nothing further from its support.

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Speaker 2: What was in it for him?

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Speaker 1: Maybe momentary momentary enthusiasm of his base. Mister Biden openly

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Speaker 1: defied the Supreme Court's ruling on his student debt cancelation plans.

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Speaker 1: The Justice has tried to block me, but they didn't

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Speaker 2: Jack.

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Speaker 1: He thus managed to sew resentment among Americans whose debts

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Speaker 1: he did not forgive, encouraged a generation to indulge in

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Speaker 1: man he accused Trump of being. In each of these instances,

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Speaker 1: and there are many others, mister Biden not only created

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Speaker 1: ruined discord and embarrassment for those who wished him well,

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Speaker 1: he did so without gaining any advantage for himself.

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Speaker 4: Biden's giving his final foreign Paul See speech today, and

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Speaker 4: so that came up on some of the shows over

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Speaker 4: the weekend, and I heard a clip from I think

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Speaker 4: the National Security Advisor who is.

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Speaker 2: Abe Lincoln? Uh Sullivan? I get them mixed up. The names, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I know them when I see them.

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Speaker 4: But anyway, who said history is going to judge this well,

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Speaker 4: the the leaving Afghanistan it's getting better by the day.

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Speaker 2: And I thought, wow, I don't think that's accurate, but.

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Speaker 1: Wow, well, I think he's spinning madly. It's not a

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Speaker 1: question of whether we left it Afghanistan. It's how and when.

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Speaker 1: My gosh, the dishonesty is unbelievable. And Borchers gives a

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Speaker 1: the communing of the death sentences, all sorts of things.

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Speaker 2: He gained nothing and hurt America. What a dope. He

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Speaker 2: can't be gone soon enough one week?

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Speaker 4: Well, the flip side of stupidity being intelligence or whatever.

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Speaker 4: I'm surprised we haven't gotten better at nailing down terms

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Speaker 4: for that or ways to look at it as opposed

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Speaker 4: to just a blanket statement of somebody smart or not.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I prefer wise or unwise, honestly too smarter or not. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I mean I've known some people who are quote unquote

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Speaker 2: They're very wise, right right. Yeah, that's a good one. Hmm.

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Speaker 2: And that's its own intelligence, isn't it.

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Speaker 4: So I do amazingly dumb things, I mean just shockingly dumb.

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Speaker 4: Sometimes sometimes I sit down and I look at look

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Speaker 4: at it, look at the mirror, and think, how could

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Speaker 2: That's just I mean shocking to me, what's that the core?

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Speaker 2: Do you suppose? Distraction? Hastiness? I mean, you're not a

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Speaker 2: stupid man by anybody's definition, but hastiness, that's a good one.

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Speaker 2: Maybe that's it. I don't know. I think it might

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Speaker 2: just be dumb. It might just be dumb. Man. Why

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Speaker 1: Four one, five, two nine five KFTC is playing on

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Speaker 1: the text number like I often tweet things out knowing

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Speaker 1: some of the reactions I'm gonna get, and I get hateful,

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Speaker 1: hateful reactions, and showing to my kids just to give

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Speaker 4: They can't believe some of the things people say. I mean,

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Speaker 4: just show horribly bad things.

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Speaker 2: Right right.

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Speaker 1: I was in a discussion with some friends the other

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Speaker 1: day about I'll keep it vague, but people who like

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Speaker 1: expressed strong opinions over stuff they had no right to

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Speaker 1: about my friends' lives and generally young, semi woke, full

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Speaker 1: of themselves people. And I said, you know, it's mildly annoying,

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Speaker 1: but I just don't worry about it. I've spent thirty

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Speaker 1: plus years having people saying you suck, You're a bad American,

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Speaker 1: You're bad at your job, you're a bad parent.

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Speaker 2: You should die. So it's like, eh, there's another one.

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Speaker 4: The appropriate finger pointing has begun on the whole fire

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Speaker 4: debacle in LA.

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Speaker 2: It didn't have to be this bad. Who's to blame?

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Speaker 4: We're gonna talk to Katie Grimes, great reporter about California

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Speaker 4: politics coming up this hour, and get into that, among

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Speaker 2: Stay here by sign.

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Speaker 2: The Washington coming head. Here's a thing is tight, Klain

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Speaker 2: Because of your racism. Just like I don't know, I

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Speaker 4: I think every NFL team that was supposed to win

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Speaker 4: which could have affected a lot of things politically. Really,

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Speaker 4: I think that's a prejudicial term. I mean they've only

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Speaker 4: The Palisades fire, the biggest fire that's still barely contained

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Speaker 4: Of fireworks, they think, now, really, yeah, some fireworks that

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Speaker 4: And they think that's what happened here with fireworks. I

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Speaker 4: little bit. So Gavin Newsom, he was very unhappy that

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Speaker 2: It's not.

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Speaker 4: It's illegal, it always has been. Bad actors will be

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Speaker 2: Those that were were turned loose from the prisons.

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Speaker 4: Gavy, my teenage crushed Justine Bateman, who is Michael J.

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Speaker 4: She tweeted out, you and Gascone and Bass sent out

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Speaker 4: the invitations long ago to all criminals to come to

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Speaker 4: you would not prosecute rioters, trespassers, looters, shoplifters, et cetera,

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Speaker 4: and they came from other states, from other countries. You

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Speaker 4: they can steal and get away with it. Denying that

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Speaker 4: Gavin is living in a fantasy world. All right, he

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Speaker 4: on many levels.

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Speaker 1: The fabulous Katie Grimes of the California Globe knows everything

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Speaker 1: there is to know about California politics and what's going

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Speaker 1: on in LA with the fires.

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Speaker 2: Stay with us, Armstrong and Getty. Did they fail you?

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Speaker 5: That is our job and I tell you that's why

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Speaker 5: I'm here. So let's get us what we need so

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Speaker 2: Do they fail you? Yes.

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Speaker 5: When a firefighter comes up to a hydrant, we expect

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Speaker 2: To be water. We don't control the water supply.

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Speaker 5: Our firefighters are there to protect lives and property and

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Speaker 2: Does the buck stop with you? I mean, hey, you're

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Speaker 2: We're all in this together. We're all better off.

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Speaker 1: We're all better off, we're all better off, and we're

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Speaker 2: To take care of people.

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Speaker 4: So at first clip happened on Friday. It's La Fire

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Speaker 5: Yes.

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Speaker 4: They the city council and the mayor failed us, and

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Speaker 4: then Gavin Newsom mashed this morning or last night?

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Speaker 2: Does the buck stop with you? Hamanahuamanahamana hamna bad answer?

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Speaker 1: Politically indeed, to discuss the politics and the realities of

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Speaker 1: show the editor in chief of the California Globe, Katie Grimes,

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Speaker 1: who's been writing about California politics for Ages and Ages.

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Speaker 2: Katie, how are you?

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Speaker 6: I am well, thanks for having me.

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Speaker 2: Jack and Joe, Oh, it's always a pleasure.

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Speaker 1: So I want to use as a springboard your last

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Speaker 1: I just if you can give the nickel version for

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Speaker 1: weren't insured or had just gotten dropped and why that is?

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Speaker 1: Because I heard an utterly, utterly misleading description of it

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Speaker 1: But go ahead, Katie, what's the real situation insurance wise?

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Speaker 6: Well, the insurance crisis in California is devastating and it's

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Speaker 6: you know, fleeing the state along with half of California,

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Speaker 6: it was also unbelievably costly for insurers. And then the

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Speaker 1: We're just looking for broad strokes, just a very quick

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Speaker 6: What's wrong with it is politics purely. And this goes

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Speaker 6: back to Proposition one O three, which was put on

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Speaker 6: problem of why it costs so much to build and

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Speaker 1: And it ordered them to only look at historical data

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Speaker 6: It is entirely unrealistic. And boy, we're going to see

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Speaker 1: And then I know you wrote about water as well,

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Speaker 2: It's just terrible governance.

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Speaker 6: Yes, absolutely, Not only have we not built any water

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Speaker 6: the state's water goes straight out to the Pacific Ocean

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Speaker 4: Well, yeah, how fair is it to lay blame at

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Speaker 6: Well, I think Avenussom's responses show you exactly how fair

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Speaker 6: it is. He's running as fast as he can from responsibility,

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Speaker 6: sign up for the good, bad, and the ugly. And

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I know your recent column, which is terrific, the

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Speaker 2: And junkies, he said.

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Speaker 1: He's embraced illegal immigrants, even providing health insurance. He's also

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Speaker 4: And you didn't mention the most recent trump proofing California

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Speaker 2: Go ahead, Gatie.

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Speaker 6: Yeah. I devoted an entire article to that one. Yeah,

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Speaker 6: But that's not what's happened. He is he's adopted this

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Speaker 6: They want water to be in their fire hydrants. We

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Speaker 6: want decent roads and good schools, and we want to

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Speaker 6: make sure that our cal Fire and the local firefighters

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Speaker 6: have everything they need in terms of, you know, budget

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Speaker 6: and equipment.

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Speaker 4: You've been following politics in California for a long time.

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Speaker 4: I was reading Mark Halprin's newsletter today and he said, hell,

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Speaker 4: hath no fury like a homeless celebrity. A Los Angeles

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Speaker 4: conservative is a liberal actor who blames NWSO and BASS

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Speaker 4: and decades of liberal governments governance for their houses burning down.

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Speaker 2: Do you think this is like perhaps a seed change

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Speaker 2: politically for LA or maybe the state.

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Speaker 6: It could be. And Mark Halpern's absolutely right. And I

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Speaker 6: think the reason we're getting so much attention focused on

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Speaker 6: California as opposed to say North Carolina right now, which

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Speaker 6: people are still living intents, is because of Hollywood and

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Speaker 6: the celebrities and people being you know, they have a

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Speaker 6: platform from which they can speak and they are describing

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Speaker 6: what's going on. And as I said, I think even

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Speaker 6: people who voted for Gavin Newsom are really really pissed

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Speaker 6: off right now and they want answers. They want to

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Speaker 6: know why this happened, and that will lead to some

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Speaker 6: changes voting, I hope.

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Speaker 1: Well, and I'm sure Gavious people would say, look, we

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Speaker 1: could walk and chew gum at the same time. We

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Speaker 1: can pursue these grand progressive schemes and be good governors.

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Speaker 1: But they can't if the walking is you know, having

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Speaker 1: a bullet train squander hundreds of billions of dollars that'll

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Speaker 1: never exist, and the chewing gum is making sure that

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Speaker 1: there's enough water storage for forty million people.

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Speaker 2: No you can't. You haven't.

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Speaker 1: You've proven it over and over again, and to the

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Speaker 1: rest of the country listening, you're like, well, why doesn't

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Speaker 1: why don't you vote Democrats out office? It's because all

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Speaker 1: of the public employee unions are so powerful in the

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Speaker 1: try lawyers that they all show up, every single one

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Speaker 1: of them and vote Democrat every single time because they're

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Speaker 1: getting their backscratched slash paid.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, exactly. It's a huge problem we have in California

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Speaker 6: in that, and I think this last election showed us

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Speaker 6: there's a lot more independent slash right of center voters

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Speaker 6: as we saw who voted for Trump over six million.

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Speaker 6: But yeah, when you fight that with the public employee unions,

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Speaker 6: which are just ruthless, Yeah, it seems like too much

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Speaker 6: of a heavy lift.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, the regular folks really just they can't accumulate enough

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Speaker 1: mass to take it back. Katie Grimes is the editor

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Speaker 1: in chief of the California Globe California Globe dot com.

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Speaker 1: You ought a bookmarket check it all the time if

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Speaker 1: you're of a conservative bent really in any state in

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Speaker 1: the Union, or you'd just like to have your eyes

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Speaker 1: open to the truth.

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Speaker 2: California Globe dot Com. Katie great to talk to you. Thanks,

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Speaker 2: thanks very much so.

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Speaker 4: The Brentwood neighborhood, which you probably recognize that name if

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Speaker 4: you follow the celebrity news, has the fires bearing down

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Speaker 4: on it. With it, it's going to be a couple

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Speaker 4: of really really windy days. That neighborhood where OJ.

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Speaker 2: Was framed for a crime.

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Speaker 4: That's right. And that neighborhood is also home to former

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Speaker 4: Senator Kamala Harris. Maybe you've heard of her, Lebron, James,

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Speaker 4: Arnold Schwarzenegger, Harrison Ford, doctor Dre among others. And those

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Speaker 4: are some names that can get a lot of attention.

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Speaker 4: Like Katie just said, there people are still living in

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Speaker 4: tents in North Carolina because of the biggest disaster they'd

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Speaker 4: ever had in that part of the country, but not

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Speaker 4: enough celebrities to get attention for that.

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Speaker 1: I actually appreciated sixty minutes last night going heavily at

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Speaker 1: all the thousands, you know, highlighting the many thousands of

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Speaker 1: working class folks, just regular people in various sections of

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Speaker 1: the greater Los Angeles metro area that are now homeless

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Speaker 1: and hopeless, and all of their baby pictures are gone.

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Speaker 1: They don't know where they're going to go and what

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Speaker 1: they're going to do. I mean, obviously baby pictures is

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Speaker 1: one example.

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Speaker 4: But it's just heartbreaking the number of people I've seen

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Speaker 4: on TV saying, literally, the only thing I had of

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Speaker 4: what is have is what you see me wearing.

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Speaker 2: I can't imagine the to do list you have when

517
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Speaker 2: you're in that situation. Where do you start? Oh my god,

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Speaker 2: would that be overwhelming?

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Speaker 1: And as I said before, just to put a cap

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Speaker 1: on this, has it been an extremely dry year in

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Speaker 1: southern California?

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Speaker 2: Yes?

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Speaker 1: Were those incredibly powerful wins freakish and rare? One hundred percent.

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Speaker 1: There are aspects of this fire that are not the

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Speaker 1: fault of governance. On the other hand, there are aspects

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Speaker 1: of it that are. And if this draws people's attention

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Speaker 1: to the utterly incompetent, doesn't even describe it. It's incompetent, dishonest,

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Speaker 1: just klepto, main maniacal governance of California over the last

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Speaker 1: quite a few years. If it draws attention to that good,

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Speaker 1: whether it directly applies to how a particular fire started

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Speaker 1: or not. Karen Bass is an avowed communist. She cut

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Speaker 1: the fire budget, according to her chief, to a damaging

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Speaker 1: level to support drug addicts and illegal immigrants and proudly

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Speaker 1: did so.

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Speaker 4: Uh did you see over the weekend where she was

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Speaker 4: at least hinting that people are criticizing her because she's black.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, a couple of celebrities are out saying that.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, go ahead, hey, put the final nail in the

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Speaker 1: coffin of your fake accusations of racism.

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Speaker 2: Do it now. That was perfect.

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Speaker 4: And the state level, when you start talking about not

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Speaker 4: having enough money for this or that, come on, you

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Speaker 4: don't get.

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Speaker 2: To say that.

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Speaker 4: As long as there's a bullet train project. You gotta

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Speaker 4: end that before you can ever say a word about

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Speaker 4: not having enough money for this or that.

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Speaker 2: Amen. Oh my god, we got more on the ways there.

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Speaker 2: We're all better off. We're all better off. We're all

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Speaker 2: better off, and we're working together.

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Speaker 4: I read over the weekend and a very interesting book

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Speaker 4: about violence, Why duels are a good idea and should

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Speaker 4: be brought back do what.

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Speaker 2: It's fascinating. I'd never thought about it before. Maybe I'll

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Speaker 2: get to that. Wow, that's madness, folks. I disagree and disapprove.

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Speaker 2: I don't think you will. I don't think you will. Actually, well,

557
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Speaker 2: then I will have a on air conversion. Won't that

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Speaker 2: be exciting?

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Speaker 1: All sorts of great stuff to get to, including I

560
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Speaker 1: want to go big on it's.

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Speaker 2: The first freaking amendment.

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Speaker 1: Mark Zuckerberg is finally out explaining how severe the pressure

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Speaker 1: was from the Biden administration to censor free speech that

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Speaker 1: the government didn't like. If you don't get that that's

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Speaker 1: a problem or why it's a problem, go from me.

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Speaker 1: May your chain sit lightly upon you, lick the hand

567
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Speaker 1: that feeds you, and made posterity forget you were our countryman,

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Speaker 1: Sam Adams. Roughly anyway, So a couple of completely non

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Speaker 1: political notes. I'm not going to be labor the first

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Speaker 1: one because we all know it. Physical inactivity is linked

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Speaker 1: to increased risk of nineteen different chronic health conditions. According

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Speaker 1: to a University of Ioa study analyzing over forty thousand

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Speaker 1: patient records. The couch is is the cigarette pack of

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Speaker 1: the modern world. Just even moderate activity a few times

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Speaker 1: a week is so so, so much better. And you

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Speaker 1: know what, We'll post this at Armstrong and getty dot com.

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Speaker 1: The simple thirty second exercise survey all it takes to

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Speaker 1: know your health in general. Anyway, moving along, because we

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Speaker 1: all know that I thought this was interesting. Our legendary

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Speaker 1: and beloved newsguy Marshall Phillips used to bring us at

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Speaker 1: least one study about coffee and drinking coffee per week,

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Speaker 1: and the first one would be contradicted by the second one,

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Speaker 1: then go back and forth.

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Speaker 2: It just never ended.

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Speaker 1: But here's a giant meta study of caffeine and coffee studies.

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Speaker 1: Two to three cups in the morning is like, by

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Speaker 1: far the best option, including not drinking coffee at all.

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Speaker 4: Really, you're better off drinking a couple of two to

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Speaker 4: three cups than not drinking coffee.

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Speaker 2: That's right.

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Speaker 1: Research so far suggests that drinking coffee does not raise

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Speaker 1: the risk of heart disease, seems to lower the risk

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Speaker 1: of some chronic diseases given the effects that caffeine has

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Speaker 1: on our bodies. Says the head scientists, we wanted to

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Speaker 1: see at the time of day when you drink coffee

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Speaker 1: has any impact on heart health. And they had three

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Speaker 1: different groups morning drinkers, all day coffee drinkers, and non

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Speaker 1: coffee drinkers, and long story short, the results significantly better

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Speaker 1: for early coffee drinkers in terms of heart disease and

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Speaker 1: all causes.

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Speaker 4: This may very well be true, but I got to

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Speaker 4: say most of this sort of stuff I ignore at

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Speaker 4: this point in my life. So many of them have

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Speaker 4: gone back and forth so many times in my adult life.

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Speaker 2: It's shocking.

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Speaker 4: On alcohol and coffee and different diets and all kinds

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Speaker 4: of stuff, different studies.

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Speaker 2: It's amazing.

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Speaker 1: I'm going to quote somebody now, I'm not saying it's true.

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Speaker 1: I'm not saying I believe it. We were talking about

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Speaker 1: cigar smoking. Myself had a handful of fellows I had

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Speaker 1: lunch with on Saturday, and the topic of and one

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Speaker 1: of the guys actually getting treated for cancer right now,

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Speaker 1: and one has gone through it several times. And they

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Speaker 1: were talking about hanging out with a bunch of doctors

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Speaker 1: after round of golf the other day and they're all

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Speaker 1: smoking cigars and they're all like that, that's genetics. So again,

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Speaker 1: I'm not telling you to go and live your life accordingly.

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Speaker 1: I'm just telling you what was said living along.

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Speaker 2: That's funny.

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Speaker 1: Speaking of health, if you're over fifty, relationships friendships are

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Speaker 1: as important as virtually everything you can do health wise.

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Speaker 1: According to statistical studies, having a circle of people you

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Speaker 1: trust and like in exchange views with the rest of it.

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Speaker 1: It's incredibly important. Isolation kills.

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Speaker 4: Screaming down a road culturally where there's more isolation.

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Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, yeah, yeah, great peace in the Atlantic.

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Speaker 1: It's overly long, of course, because everything is about what's

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Speaker 1: the title of it, The Anti social Century?

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Speaker 2: Absolutely. Yeah, here's another one.

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Speaker 1: We're going fast, We're going swiftly here, folks, take notes

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Speaker 1: if you can, even if you're driving. Americans are tipping

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Speaker 1: less than they have in years. Frustration with rising menu

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Speaker 1: prices and the ubiquitous tipped prompts guilt tipping have led

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Speaker 1: to a six year low.

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Speaker 4: I don't doubt that. I also, for some reason, I

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Speaker 4: don't like the you tell me how much eighteen.

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Speaker 2: Percent is? I don't know why. It's just just a

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Speaker 2: little more looking over your shoulder. I don't know. I

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Speaker 2: just I don't like it. I don't like it fits

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Speaker 2: in with all the other too much telling me to tip?

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Speaker 2: I will tip. I've always tipped. Would just quit quit?

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Speaker 2: What the telling me to tip?

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Speaker 1: You're right, I don't mind the math because I can,

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Speaker 1: you know, quickly do it instead of doing it in

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Speaker 1: my head, which is probably good for my brain.

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Speaker 2: But it's all the Here are your choices, Yeah, feel

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Speaker 2: to it. Oh whoa, whoa. My choice is whatever the

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Speaker 2: hell I.

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Speaker 4: Want, exactly exactly. I'm sitting here determining how good I

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Speaker 4: thought the service was. Just don't tell me my three options,

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Speaker 4: which are all really high by the way, Armstrong and

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Speaker 4: Getty