1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:00,320 Speaker 1: Hi. 2 00:00:00,360 --> 00:00:02,559 Speaker 2: This is Kyles forber and welcome to the Philly Show. 3 00:00:19,320 --> 00:00:25,160 Speaker 3: Hi everybody, Welcome to the Philly Show. It's Monday, September 4 00:00:25,160 --> 00:00:27,520 Speaker 3: twenty third, twenty twenty four. You got Ruben Omar Junior here, 5 00:00:27,640 --> 00:00:31,200 Speaker 3: Jim Salisbury. I'm Todd's Lucky powered of course by the 6 00:00:31,320 --> 00:00:35,560 Speaker 3: Foul Territory Network. Guys, how are we doing this morning? 7 00:00:35,920 --> 00:00:37,600 Speaker 3: I'm still stuck up in New York. I thought I 8 00:00:37,640 --> 00:00:39,320 Speaker 3: was going to be home on Saturday. I thought I 9 00:00:39,360 --> 00:00:41,800 Speaker 3: was going to have the weekend off, but the Phillies 10 00:00:41,840 --> 00:00:46,280 Speaker 3: decided not the clinch in at least, so I stuck around. 11 00:00:45,960 --> 00:00:49,279 Speaker 2: All weekend and maybe they'll clinch it on Monday. Now 12 00:00:49,280 --> 00:00:51,680 Speaker 2: you guys get Yeah. 13 00:00:51,320 --> 00:00:55,400 Speaker 4: Doing great, doing great, other than the disappointment that happened 14 00:00:55,440 --> 00:00:57,520 Speaker 4: over the course of that road trip. 15 00:00:57,840 --> 00:01:01,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, two and five. Ruben, what does anything jump 16 00:01:01,080 --> 00:01:03,360 Speaker 3: out at you? For me, it was like just a 17 00:01:03,400 --> 00:01:05,880 Speaker 3: lot of swing and miss. The offense just kind of 18 00:01:05,880 --> 00:01:08,560 Speaker 3: fell flat the whole week, which is kind of concerning 19 00:01:08,600 --> 00:01:12,680 Speaker 3: because these are two playoff teams and they could be 20 00:01:12,720 --> 00:01:14,600 Speaker 3: facing the Mets and the Brewers, and there were a 21 00:01:14,600 --> 00:01:16,520 Speaker 3: lot of scouts, a lot of scouts from all the 22 00:01:16,560 --> 00:01:19,639 Speaker 3: contending teams here this week and watching this Phillies' effort, 23 00:01:19,680 --> 00:01:21,800 Speaker 3: and I'm sure they're taking down their little notes and going, 24 00:01:22,560 --> 00:01:24,080 Speaker 3: all right, get them to chase. 25 00:01:23,840 --> 00:01:27,200 Speaker 5: And well, I think a couple of things. 26 00:01:27,319 --> 00:01:30,600 Speaker 4: One, we went through this in twenty eleven twenty ten, 27 00:01:30,680 --> 00:01:33,199 Speaker 4: when we had been like overly scouted to the point 28 00:01:33,200 --> 00:01:36,640 Speaker 4: where all of our guys were really exploited. 29 00:01:36,600 --> 00:01:36,679 Speaker 3: And. 30 00:01:38,200 --> 00:01:40,560 Speaker 4: I think it really affected us as far as our 31 00:01:40,560 --> 00:01:42,600 Speaker 4: offense was concerned in that era. 32 00:01:42,760 --> 00:01:45,160 Speaker 5: I think the exact same thing is happening now. 33 00:01:45,680 --> 00:01:49,560 Speaker 4: That teams are seeing some of the flaws that this 34 00:01:49,640 --> 00:01:51,680 Speaker 4: team has, and there's a lot of swing and miss 35 00:01:51,680 --> 00:01:55,440 Speaker 4: in it, and there's also a lot of guests. The 36 00:01:55,480 --> 00:01:59,440 Speaker 4: only guy that I don't feel is like guessing at 37 00:01:59,440 --> 00:02:02,200 Speaker 4: the plate consistently is Alec Bohm, and I think that's 38 00:02:02,240 --> 00:02:05,360 Speaker 4: why you're seeing him get, you know, have consistent contact, 39 00:02:05,360 --> 00:02:07,120 Speaker 4: even though it's sometimes it's not hard. 40 00:02:07,960 --> 00:02:10,400 Speaker 5: I just see so much guests, and I'm talking. 41 00:02:10,160 --> 00:02:15,320 Speaker 4: About from Schorebert to Harper to Turner, et cetera, et cetera. 42 00:02:15,760 --> 00:02:16,880 Speaker 5: Castiano has always been. 43 00:02:16,800 --> 00:02:20,160 Speaker 4: Sort of a guest hitter, but I see that happening 44 00:02:20,280 --> 00:02:23,240 Speaker 4: basically throughout the lineup. Instead of these guys just kind 45 00:02:23,280 --> 00:02:26,120 Speaker 4: of letting their ability, like look for a fastball and adjust. 46 00:02:27,280 --> 00:02:29,280 Speaker 4: And I know it's a very, very difficult thing to do, 47 00:02:29,960 --> 00:02:31,800 Speaker 4: because hitting is one of the toughest things in the 48 00:02:31,800 --> 00:02:32,400 Speaker 4: world to do. 49 00:02:32,520 --> 00:02:37,480 Speaker 5: But I'm seeing that a lot, and I gotta believe. 50 00:02:38,000 --> 00:02:40,720 Speaker 4: I gotta believe that everybody on the planet who is 51 00:02:40,760 --> 00:02:42,880 Speaker 4: going to be involved in the playoffs is watching it 52 00:02:42,919 --> 00:02:43,240 Speaker 4: as well. 53 00:02:43,280 --> 00:02:43,960 Speaker 5: And it's a concern. 54 00:02:45,520 --> 00:02:47,160 Speaker 6: Yeah, I agree. You's seeing a lot of guests and 55 00:02:47,200 --> 00:02:49,560 Speaker 6: a lot of press because when you don't have success, 56 00:02:49,639 --> 00:02:53,239 Speaker 6: and you know, that big expectation of a division championship 57 00:02:53,280 --> 00:02:56,560 Speaker 6: that they talked about as far back as February is 58 00:02:56,639 --> 00:02:59,360 Speaker 6: dangling right there, and it's not coming home to roost 59 00:02:59,400 --> 00:03:02,280 Speaker 6: to start grip tight, start chasing it a lot of 60 00:03:02,360 --> 00:03:04,600 Speaker 6: high fastballs. Last night, I had a lot of trouble 61 00:03:04,639 --> 00:03:11,040 Speaker 6: with fastballs late on them, chasing them out of the zone. 62 00:03:11,960 --> 00:03:14,440 Speaker 6: You know this, They just look like kind of a 63 00:03:14,440 --> 00:03:16,520 Speaker 6: almost like a football team that's stuck in the red 64 00:03:16,600 --> 00:03:20,239 Speaker 6: zone and can't punch it over. They will, They probably 65 00:03:20,280 --> 00:03:22,480 Speaker 6: will Monday night. I think coming home will do them 66 00:03:22,480 --> 00:03:25,239 Speaker 6: a world of good, getting out in front of their 67 00:03:25,600 --> 00:03:30,640 Speaker 6: home fans. But you know, these Mets, these Mets could 68 00:03:30,680 --> 00:03:34,280 Speaker 6: be a major nuisance. They remind me you mentioned ten 69 00:03:34,280 --> 00:03:37,040 Speaker 6: and eleven, Rubin. They remind me a lot of the 70 00:03:37,080 --> 00:03:42,360 Speaker 6: Cardinals in twenty eleven. You know, the Cardinals lost Wayne Wright. 71 00:03:43,320 --> 00:03:46,600 Speaker 6: This team lost Senga. The Cardinals went on a major 72 00:03:46,680 --> 00:03:49,080 Speaker 6: second half run. I think the Cardinals finished like twenty 73 00:03:49,080 --> 00:03:53,360 Speaker 6: three and nine. And the Mets have that, you know, momentum, 74 00:03:53,680 --> 00:03:58,240 Speaker 6: They have emotion, and they seem to believe they could 75 00:03:58,240 --> 00:04:00,800 Speaker 6: be a very tough out in the postseason. Of course, 76 00:04:00,840 --> 00:04:02,360 Speaker 6: they got to get there, but they're up to They've 77 00:04:02,360 --> 00:04:05,760 Speaker 6: got a big series in starting Tuesday night with Atlanta. 78 00:04:05,960 --> 00:04:10,320 Speaker 6: I mean TV, that's gonna be musty TV. Atlanta Mets 79 00:04:10,480 --> 00:04:15,680 Speaker 6: really good finish down there. So but the Mets really 80 00:04:15,760 --> 00:04:18,480 Speaker 6: tough team. I mean in Phillies, you waste a great 81 00:04:18,640 --> 00:04:22,400 Speaker 6: effort by Zach Wheeler on Sunday Night one for you know, 82 00:04:22,400 --> 00:04:24,640 Speaker 6: they're one for eleven with runners in scoring position in 83 00:04:24,640 --> 00:04:27,960 Speaker 6: the last two games. And we talk about this odd 84 00:04:28,040 --> 00:04:30,000 Speaker 6: noiing and you talk about all these scouts that are 85 00:04:30,000 --> 00:04:32,640 Speaker 6: figuring this out. People have known this about this team 86 00:04:32,680 --> 00:04:35,880 Speaker 6: for a long time. They you know, the way video 87 00:04:35,920 --> 00:04:38,160 Speaker 6: scouting is, you don't even have to have scouts behind 88 00:04:38,200 --> 00:04:41,960 Speaker 6: the backstop to know this, and they're caught in one 89 00:04:41,960 --> 00:04:44,080 Speaker 6: of their funks where they're swinging and missing, they're pressing 90 00:04:44,120 --> 00:04:47,080 Speaker 6: with runners on base, leaving men in scoring position, and 91 00:04:47,120 --> 00:04:49,600 Speaker 6: it's everybody's worst fear that it's going to rear its 92 00:04:49,600 --> 00:04:53,839 Speaker 6: head at the worst time sometime in October. Maybe the 93 00:04:53,880 --> 00:04:56,360 Speaker 6: pluses is happening here in the final week of September. 94 00:04:56,440 --> 00:04:58,800 Speaker 6: They are still going to win the division, and then 95 00:04:58,800 --> 00:05:00,200 Speaker 6: maybe they can get on something. 96 00:05:00,160 --> 00:05:01,359 Speaker 2: Of a role in October. 97 00:05:01,400 --> 00:05:01,840 Speaker 6: We'll see. 98 00:05:02,560 --> 00:05:02,760 Speaker 5: Yeah. 99 00:05:02,800 --> 00:05:06,320 Speaker 3: The Phillies, so on that seven game road trip, struck 100 00:05:06,320 --> 00:05:07,520 Speaker 3: out eighty one times. 101 00:05:07,560 --> 00:05:08,839 Speaker 2: That's four short. 102 00:05:08,960 --> 00:05:12,440 Speaker 3: The most strikeouts I've ever had in a seven game span. 103 00:05:12,560 --> 00:05:17,320 Speaker 3: Eighty five they've chased. The chase rate was up to 104 00:05:17,440 --> 00:05:22,160 Speaker 3: thirty five point two during this road trip. Season average 105 00:05:22,240 --> 00:05:25,240 Speaker 3: is about twenty nine, so it's up about six percentage points, 106 00:05:25,880 --> 00:05:30,680 Speaker 3: So chasing more, striking out more. So if you're Rob Thompson, 107 00:05:33,320 --> 00:05:36,080 Speaker 3: are you sitting there saying, all right, it's. 108 00:05:35,760 --> 00:05:36,719 Speaker 2: Just seven games. 109 00:05:36,760 --> 00:05:39,280 Speaker 3: You know they clinched the posts, they know they're going 110 00:05:39,320 --> 00:05:41,560 Speaker 3: to clinch the NLS, and maybe they're just down a 111 00:05:41,600 --> 00:05:46,359 Speaker 3: little bit. This stuff happens. The Mets are playing for 112 00:05:46,400 --> 00:05:48,400 Speaker 3: the live whatever it might be. Are you trying to 113 00:05:48,720 --> 00:05:51,839 Speaker 3: rationalize the seven games or are you a little bit 114 00:05:52,040 --> 00:05:54,960 Speaker 3: nervous that it's coming so. 115 00:05:55,120 --> 00:05:56,280 Speaker 2: Close for the postseason? 116 00:05:56,320 --> 00:05:59,080 Speaker 3: They have six more games, and then assuming they get 117 00:05:59,120 --> 00:06:02,039 Speaker 3: a bye, they're gonna be off for five days. Probably 118 00:06:02,080 --> 00:06:05,640 Speaker 3: won't help their hitting. Are you a little nervous about it? Reuben, 119 00:06:06,640 --> 00:06:08,600 Speaker 3: I am nervous about it. I mean, listen, this is 120 00:06:08,640 --> 00:06:11,440 Speaker 3: not the first time we've seen this happen. I mean, 121 00:06:11,480 --> 00:06:14,800 Speaker 3: we've seen this happen in the playoffs last year. They 122 00:06:14,839 --> 00:06:18,599 Speaker 3: were exploited with the high fastball. I would just pound high. 123 00:06:18,400 --> 00:06:23,320 Speaker 4: Fastballs to this team all day long and keep pounding it, 124 00:06:23,440 --> 00:06:26,560 Speaker 4: whether it's two strikes or no strikes. 125 00:06:26,880 --> 00:06:28,840 Speaker 5: Or what have you. And every once in a while, 126 00:06:28,880 --> 00:06:31,360 Speaker 5: I'd flip a breaking ball out of the zone. 127 00:06:31,440 --> 00:06:33,760 Speaker 4: And that's what I would do if I was scouting them, 128 00:06:33,920 --> 00:06:38,039 Speaker 4: I'd pound high fastballs and high fastballs and high fastballs 129 00:06:38,279 --> 00:06:42,159 Speaker 4: until the cows come home, and until they have the 130 00:06:42,200 --> 00:06:44,240 Speaker 4: ability to lay off that pitch. 131 00:06:44,960 --> 00:06:47,240 Speaker 5: I just keep going at them. I mean, that would 132 00:06:47,240 --> 00:06:49,480 Speaker 5: be my scattery report against them, because. 133 00:06:50,640 --> 00:06:53,440 Speaker 4: They're susceptible to that pitch and they have not been 134 00:06:53,680 --> 00:06:58,120 Speaker 4: attacking the high fastball very well. Last year we saw 135 00:06:58,360 --> 00:07:00,680 Speaker 4: Bryson Stott attack the high fast all much better with 136 00:07:00,720 --> 00:07:02,839 Speaker 4: his top hand. Right now, he's long with his swing. 137 00:07:04,040 --> 00:07:06,600 Speaker 4: I see guys, you know, swinging and missing at it 138 00:07:06,640 --> 00:07:09,240 Speaker 4: a lot. Again, it's a tough pitch to hit, and 139 00:07:09,279 --> 00:07:13,000 Speaker 4: it's very very enticing because it's closer to your eyes, 140 00:07:13,280 --> 00:07:16,560 Speaker 4: you can see it better. I had a long talk 141 00:07:16,640 --> 00:07:20,320 Speaker 4: with Billy Williams way back when, a long time hitting 142 00:07:20,320 --> 00:07:23,480 Speaker 4: coach with the Chicago Cups, and I said, Billy, why 143 00:07:23,520 --> 00:07:26,720 Speaker 4: did guys swing at that high fastball so much? He said, well, 144 00:07:26,720 --> 00:07:29,800 Speaker 4: think about it, Ruben. You can see it with your 145 00:07:29,840 --> 00:07:33,920 Speaker 4: eyes better. You can, you can track it better and 146 00:07:34,000 --> 00:07:36,880 Speaker 4: so and they're also calling that pitch in the upper 147 00:07:36,880 --> 00:07:39,120 Speaker 4: part of the zone now more than any more than 148 00:07:39,120 --> 00:07:42,280 Speaker 4: any time in history. So there's a couple of things 149 00:07:42,280 --> 00:07:45,480 Speaker 4: working against him. And that's how I would attack him. 150 00:07:45,720 --> 00:07:46,320 Speaker 2: And if you can. 151 00:07:47,280 --> 00:07:51,800 Speaker 6: It's funny you talk about the high fastball. Remember that. 152 00:07:51,840 --> 00:07:53,920 Speaker 6: You know they wanted Vince Flasks to throw that pitch, 153 00:07:53,960 --> 00:07:56,080 Speaker 6: but he just could locate it right. You know, you 154 00:07:56,160 --> 00:07:58,240 Speaker 6: have to be really precise with the location of it. 155 00:07:58,280 --> 00:08:00,240 Speaker 6: But you know, when this team is swinging in miss 156 00:08:00,240 --> 00:08:01,920 Speaker 6: and you don't even have to locate it that well. 157 00:08:01,960 --> 00:08:04,000 Speaker 6: It can be up above the letters, out of the zone. 158 00:08:04,040 --> 00:08:05,560 Speaker 6: You're going to get a swing and miss on it. 159 00:08:06,000 --> 00:08:10,560 Speaker 6: Because they're so undisciplined, they're trying to make too much 160 00:08:10,640 --> 00:08:13,440 Speaker 6: happen instead of letting the game come to them. I 161 00:08:13,440 --> 00:08:15,040 Speaker 6: feel like there was a lot of that this week, 162 00:08:15,120 --> 00:08:17,840 Speaker 6: just because the division title is hanging there and they 163 00:08:17,840 --> 00:08:21,920 Speaker 6: all know it, you know. I just like I said, 164 00:08:22,040 --> 00:08:23,560 Speaker 6: I see a lot of press right. 165 00:08:23,360 --> 00:08:26,840 Speaker 4: Now, and which is interesting, Jim, and I'll reiterate. I'll 166 00:08:26,880 --> 00:08:29,760 Speaker 4: just talk about that a little bit. This is a 167 00:08:29,840 --> 00:08:32,840 Speaker 4: veteran team. These guys have been around. There's no reason 168 00:08:32,880 --> 00:08:36,720 Speaker 4: for them to be pressing, and they know they're getting 169 00:08:36,760 --> 00:08:38,520 Speaker 4: to where they need to go as far as the 170 00:08:38,640 --> 00:08:43,280 Speaker 4: NL East is concerned, and they should trust the guys 171 00:08:43,320 --> 00:08:43,920 Speaker 4: behind them there. 172 00:08:43,920 --> 00:08:45,640 Speaker 5: I have all very very good hitters. 173 00:08:45,880 --> 00:08:48,160 Speaker 4: I mean, these are really good hitters, and you know, 174 00:08:48,760 --> 00:08:51,800 Speaker 4: they need to put themselves in a position to allow 175 00:08:52,000 --> 00:08:56,400 Speaker 4: the next guy past the baton. When they're doing that consistently, 176 00:08:56,679 --> 00:09:02,840 Speaker 4: that's when they can sustain rallies, hits, walks, stealing a 177 00:09:02,880 --> 00:09:06,480 Speaker 4: base and and that's I think the mentality is that 178 00:09:06,600 --> 00:09:09,720 Speaker 4: A I don't necessarily have to do it. I have 179 00:09:09,840 --> 00:09:11,720 Speaker 4: to make that picture. Throw me a strike so I 180 00:09:11,720 --> 00:09:13,480 Speaker 4: can do my do my damage. 181 00:09:13,760 --> 00:09:16,080 Speaker 6: Ruby, do you in top? Do you guys? Indeed see 182 00:09:16,080 --> 00:09:16,640 Speaker 6: some press. 183 00:09:18,800 --> 00:09:20,000 Speaker 2: I feel like that's in there. 184 00:09:20,679 --> 00:09:22,560 Speaker 5: I see some big swings. Yes, yeah, I. 185 00:09:23,480 --> 00:09:25,480 Speaker 3: Feel like especially with Harper, I was looking at that 186 00:09:25,559 --> 00:09:27,600 Speaker 3: at bat in the I think it was his first 187 00:09:27,600 --> 00:09:29,280 Speaker 3: at bat. I don't think he swung at a pitch 188 00:09:29,280 --> 00:09:31,400 Speaker 3: in the strike zone. Every single pitch was out of 189 00:09:31,400 --> 00:09:33,440 Speaker 3: the strike zone that he swung at. 190 00:09:33,960 --> 00:09:37,040 Speaker 2: So to me, that seems to be It. 191 00:09:37,000 --> 00:09:38,880 Speaker 3: Seems to me like that's a guy who's trying to 192 00:09:38,880 --> 00:09:41,760 Speaker 3: make something happen in a big game, because you know, 193 00:09:41,800 --> 00:09:44,160 Speaker 3: he had not been hitting the ball, particularly while on 194 00:09:44,160 --> 00:09:45,439 Speaker 3: this road trip. I don't know what he hit on 195 00:09:45,440 --> 00:09:46,840 Speaker 3: the road trip, but I don't think he had a 196 00:09:46,880 --> 00:09:49,880 Speaker 3: great put up great numbers. So that that to me 197 00:09:50,240 --> 00:09:52,199 Speaker 3: because when you know, when Bryce is good, he's laying 198 00:09:52,200 --> 00:09:54,800 Speaker 3: off that stuff and he's waiting for that one or 199 00:09:55,160 --> 00:09:57,000 Speaker 3: two pitches in the zone to really jump on. 200 00:09:57,120 --> 00:09:59,000 Speaker 2: And he did not do that last night. 201 00:09:59,400 --> 00:10:01,800 Speaker 6: And you know, last night was the game he wanted 202 00:10:01,840 --> 00:10:05,640 Speaker 6: to be Bryce Harper Superstar National TV, chance to lock 203 00:10:05,679 --> 00:10:10,839 Speaker 6: down the division and have a little celebration on National TV. 204 00:10:10,960 --> 00:10:15,120 Speaker 6: You know, right after the game. On the field, it 205 00:10:15,240 --> 00:10:18,040 Speaker 6: just looked like he was trying to, you know, do 206 00:10:18,200 --> 00:10:20,160 Speaker 6: too much. Looked like he was trying to meet the 207 00:10:20,200 --> 00:10:22,200 Speaker 6: moment instead of maybe the moment come to him. 208 00:10:23,760 --> 00:10:26,880 Speaker 7: So I was speaking of all this. You mentioned Zach Wheeler. 209 00:10:27,880 --> 00:10:30,319 Speaker 3: The Phillies went into this trip, or went into Wednesday 210 00:10:30,400 --> 00:10:33,320 Speaker 3: night in a thirty four game winning streak when they're 211 00:10:33,360 --> 00:10:36,480 Speaker 3: starting pitchers have pitched seven or more innings. 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All right, guys, we just we just talked 242 00:12:10,040 --> 00:12:13,160 Speaker 3: about the two and five road trip and how nothing 243 00:12:13,200 --> 00:12:13,840 Speaker 3: really went. 244 00:12:13,720 --> 00:12:14,959 Speaker 2: Right on the hitting end. 245 00:12:15,320 --> 00:12:19,400 Speaker 3: So uh, Philly of the Week is, of course brought 246 00:12:19,400 --> 00:12:23,199 Speaker 3: to you by Shy Vintage Sports. 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Should we the whin the al Cy Young? 267 00:13:20,679 --> 00:13:21,079 Speaker 5: I think? 268 00:13:21,800 --> 00:13:25,839 Speaker 4: But I mean, this guy's been unbelievable. And I obviously 269 00:13:26,040 --> 00:13:29,800 Speaker 4: Chris Sales had an unbelievable season, but I'm sorry. He's 270 00:13:29,800 --> 00:13:32,640 Speaker 4: pitched well down the stretch. He's pitched well against teams 271 00:13:32,640 --> 00:13:35,440 Speaker 4: that are contending. He's pitched you know, I mean, he's 272 00:13:35,480 --> 00:13:39,719 Speaker 4: not just well, he's dominated them. And he's just been 273 00:13:39,760 --> 00:13:43,520 Speaker 4: fantastic his last two outings just spectacular again again. 274 00:13:43,640 --> 00:13:46,319 Speaker 3: Zach Wheeler fourteen innings on this road trip, two starts, 275 00:13:46,320 --> 00:13:50,040 Speaker 3: eleven hits, three runs, one walk, fourteen strikeouts, one point 276 00:13:50,160 --> 00:13:55,319 Speaker 3: ninety three. Y right, he's making his last second push 277 00:13:55,360 --> 00:13:55,880 Speaker 3: for NL. 278 00:13:55,960 --> 00:13:56,360 Speaker 2: Cy Young. 279 00:13:56,400 --> 00:13:57,760 Speaker 7: I don't know if he's going to get there, Guys. 280 00:13:57,760 --> 00:13:58,439 Speaker 7: I'll be honest with you. 281 00:13:58,480 --> 00:14:00,600 Speaker 3: If you look at the overall stats, I just feel 282 00:14:00,600 --> 00:14:03,040 Speaker 3: like too many of the national writers are going to say, Wow, 283 00:14:03,120 --> 00:14:06,000 Speaker 3: Chris Sale, what a great story man he was. You know, 284 00:14:06,320 --> 00:14:09,079 Speaker 3: he was traded for nothing basically, and he was He's 285 00:14:09,120 --> 00:14:11,840 Speaker 3: been hurt all these years, and you know he's eighteen 286 00:14:12,000 --> 00:14:14,760 Speaker 3: three two three eighty or But you know what's interesting, guys, 287 00:14:14,880 --> 00:14:18,040 Speaker 3: is Chris Sale in his last start only went five 288 00:14:18,080 --> 00:14:21,560 Speaker 3: innings and his VELO was way way way down in 289 00:14:21,640 --> 00:14:24,840 Speaker 3: his last start. So he's starting on He could have 290 00:14:24,880 --> 00:14:28,920 Speaker 3: had two more starts this season, Chris Sale. They're I 291 00:14:28,960 --> 00:14:31,400 Speaker 3: think he's starting on Wednesday against the Mets. They're giving 292 00:14:31,440 --> 00:14:34,320 Speaker 3: him an extra day, so now he cannot pitch the 293 00:14:34,360 --> 00:14:36,200 Speaker 3: final game of the season if they need it. 294 00:14:37,160 --> 00:14:38,160 Speaker 2: That interesting. 295 00:14:39,080 --> 00:14:42,720 Speaker 6: That's a huge development in the and he's had and 296 00:14:42,760 --> 00:14:45,160 Speaker 6: he's had some serious, you know, injury stuff. 297 00:14:45,720 --> 00:14:48,040 Speaker 3: But I mean that's uh, you know, I don't know 298 00:14:48,080 --> 00:14:49,560 Speaker 3: if that's I don't know if Zach goes out and 299 00:14:50,280 --> 00:14:52,960 Speaker 3: dominates in his last start in Washington, I don't know 300 00:14:53,000 --> 00:14:54,840 Speaker 3: what they're gonna do. If they're gonna take probably taper 301 00:14:54,840 --> 00:14:56,600 Speaker 3: and back an inning or whatever. They could do that, 302 00:14:56,720 --> 00:15:01,400 Speaker 3: but but he's certainly were they do in Sion. Go ahead, coach. 303 00:15:02,000 --> 00:15:04,080 Speaker 6: I think this week you should name it Philly of 304 00:15:04,120 --> 00:15:10,160 Speaker 6: the Week. W e A. I'm gonna I'm gonna go 305 00:15:10,200 --> 00:15:12,320 Speaker 6: out of the box, and my Philly of the Week 306 00:15:12,640 --> 00:15:17,200 Speaker 6: is the Great Phil Sheridan and his clubhouse staff. Because 307 00:15:17,240 --> 00:15:19,000 Speaker 6: of this five road. 308 00:15:18,800 --> 00:15:22,160 Speaker 10: Trip, they're gonna have to the Scoogle River is going 309 00:15:22,240 --> 00:15:25,800 Speaker 10: to flow through the Phillies Clubhouse one of these nights, 310 00:15:25,800 --> 00:15:28,960 Speaker 10: probably tonight, and Garrett Stubbs is going to be doing 311 00:15:29,000 --> 00:15:31,560 Speaker 10: the backstroke and they're gonna have the Phil Sheridan and 312 00:15:31,600 --> 00:15:32,480 Speaker 10: his boys. 313 00:15:32,200 --> 00:15:34,880 Speaker 6: And whatever service they use. They're gonna have to clean 314 00:15:34,920 --> 00:15:38,000 Speaker 6: that that clubhouse up and get it right the day. 315 00:15:38,320 --> 00:15:39,360 Speaker 2: That's about the other one. 316 00:15:39,520 --> 00:15:41,080 Speaker 4: The other part of it is that they've had to 317 00:15:41,240 --> 00:15:44,280 Speaker 4: prepare for this for how long. I mean, they've had 318 00:15:44,320 --> 00:15:47,920 Speaker 4: to drag alcohol and champagne and all types of stuff 319 00:15:47,920 --> 00:15:48,680 Speaker 4: all over the place. 320 00:15:48,800 --> 00:15:50,200 Speaker 2: Well it was funny. 321 00:15:50,240 --> 00:15:53,200 Speaker 3: So on on Wednesday, Milwaukee and we're walking toward the 322 00:15:53,240 --> 00:15:55,640 Speaker 3: clubhouse they lost, of course, that was the Nola game, 323 00:15:56,120 --> 00:15:58,720 Speaker 3: and I see these ten cases of Budweise they're sitting 324 00:15:58,720 --> 00:16:01,480 Speaker 3: outside the clubhouse and and that was part of the 325 00:16:02,040 --> 00:16:05,920 Speaker 3: beer that they were going to crack into. And I asked, 326 00:16:06,040 --> 00:16:08,560 Speaker 3: I asked if they left it there. And the Budweiser 327 00:16:08,640 --> 00:16:11,040 Speaker 3: was left there, which somebody in Milwaukee of course will take. 328 00:16:11,440 --> 00:16:17,280 Speaker 3: But it is ironic though, because Miller Budweiser their their rivals. 329 00:16:17,320 --> 00:16:19,400 Speaker 3: So it's this kind of funny that they left ten 330 00:16:19,480 --> 00:16:22,480 Speaker 3: cases of Budweiser in Milwaukee when it should have been 331 00:16:22,520 --> 00:16:25,400 Speaker 3: Miller Lite or the high Life the Champagne of beer 332 00:16:25,480 --> 00:16:29,400 Speaker 3: as we as we know. So yeah, that's a good 333 00:16:29,400 --> 00:16:31,360 Speaker 3: one though, Jim. The clubhouse staf because they're gonna have 334 00:16:31,400 --> 00:16:32,440 Speaker 3: a lot of work ahead of them. 335 00:16:32,640 --> 00:16:36,640 Speaker 6: Yeah, they Yeah, I remember the days when clubhouse celebrations 336 00:16:36,680 --> 00:16:39,280 Speaker 6: they were big and they were a little more muted. 337 00:16:39,440 --> 00:16:43,320 Speaker 6: Now they have to cover everything and they put this 338 00:16:43,680 --> 00:16:48,120 Speaker 6: you know, this floor saver down and. 339 00:16:47,120 --> 00:16:47,800 Speaker 2: It is wild. 340 00:16:49,520 --> 00:16:52,080 Speaker 4: Yeah, they put they drape all that stuff across and 341 00:16:52,400 --> 00:16:55,920 Speaker 4: they actually build those lockers so that they have actual 342 00:16:56,080 --> 00:16:59,280 Speaker 4: hooks in them to prepare for that. And they do 343 00:16:59,360 --> 00:17:02,480 Speaker 4: that pretty much across the board. Now even that would 344 00:17:02,560 --> 00:17:03,920 Speaker 4: are that are not contenders. 345 00:17:04,480 --> 00:17:06,439 Speaker 6: Yeah, they build them right into because the Phillies have 346 00:17:06,480 --> 00:17:09,439 Speaker 6: hooks there all the time, part of the part of 347 00:17:09,480 --> 00:17:12,679 Speaker 6: the you know, the hardware in the clubhouse. But these 348 00:17:12,960 --> 00:17:16,520 Speaker 6: these celebrations have become marketing events, so they'll know. I 349 00:17:16,520 --> 00:17:18,960 Speaker 6: remember the days when you know, the clubhouse staff would 350 00:17:19,000 --> 00:17:22,240 Speaker 6: duct tape some plastic above the lockers. Now, as Rube said, 351 00:17:22,280 --> 00:17:24,240 Speaker 6: they have the hooks that are part of the part 352 00:17:24,320 --> 00:17:27,560 Speaker 6: of the hardware of the clubhouse and the actual you 353 00:17:27,600 --> 00:17:30,560 Speaker 6: know tarps that they put over the lockers are sponsored 354 00:17:30,560 --> 00:17:34,000 Speaker 6: by beer company. You know, you can only drink during 355 00:17:34,040 --> 00:17:35,960 Speaker 6: the celebrations, at least in the post. 356 00:17:35,760 --> 00:17:38,719 Speaker 5: Season, the an MLB thing. 357 00:17:38,840 --> 00:17:45,440 Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, yeah, the goggles are comped and branded. It's 358 00:17:45,560 --> 00:17:48,120 Speaker 6: just you know the days of you know, Yogi Berra. 359 00:17:48,000 --> 00:17:52,920 Speaker 2: Going, you know, having a Schlitz. 360 00:18:00,119 --> 00:18:03,199 Speaker 3: They had they had the plastic tar hanging over the 361 00:18:03,240 --> 00:18:05,719 Speaker 3: lockers in Milwaukee the entire week. As soon as they 362 00:18:05,720 --> 00:18:08,040 Speaker 3: got there that the plastic was up because they it 363 00:18:08,080 --> 00:18:11,280 Speaker 3: was they knew they could clinch a postseason birth out 364 00:18:11,480 --> 00:18:14,280 Speaker 3: outside chance they could clinch the NL East in Milwaukee. 365 00:18:14,600 --> 00:18:16,880 Speaker 3: They never had the plastic up in New York at all, 366 00:18:17,240 --> 00:18:20,560 Speaker 3: but I was told that it takes supposedly ten minutes 367 00:18:20,600 --> 00:18:22,720 Speaker 3: to get the tar get the plastic up over the 368 00:18:22,760 --> 00:18:23,920 Speaker 3: lockers in New York. 369 00:18:24,359 --> 00:18:27,800 Speaker 2: And as one of the Phillies guys said, we can 370 00:18:27,840 --> 00:18:28,240 Speaker 2: do it in. 371 00:18:28,280 --> 00:18:33,520 Speaker 10: Five I think Philly of the Week, that's why you 372 00:18:33,560 --> 00:18:34,120 Speaker 10: picked their field. 373 00:18:34,200 --> 00:18:35,280 Speaker 2: That's a great Philly the Week. 374 00:18:36,320 --> 00:18:39,400 Speaker 5: Yeah, Bill Sheridan, a baby film, Yeah, yeah. 375 00:18:39,480 --> 00:18:43,040 Speaker 3: Yeah. So let's wrap up a couple of things here. 376 00:18:44,440 --> 00:18:48,920 Speaker 3: Austin Hayes played two rehab games this weekend in Lehigh Valley. 377 00:18:48,960 --> 00:18:51,480 Speaker 3: Supposedly he felt great afterwards. He played nine innings and 378 00:18:51,560 --> 00:18:53,480 Speaker 3: left field on Sunday. That's the whole thing. He was 379 00:18:53,480 --> 00:18:56,600 Speaker 3: feeling fatigued from the kidney infection, the antibiotics and all 380 00:18:56,600 --> 00:18:57,080 Speaker 3: that stuff. 381 00:18:57,200 --> 00:18:57,800 Speaker 2: He feels good. 382 00:18:57,840 --> 00:19:01,000 Speaker 3: He's probably going to be activated on Tuesdays. So there's 383 00:19:01,040 --> 00:19:03,280 Speaker 3: a lot of talk about how they are going to 384 00:19:03,400 --> 00:19:05,720 Speaker 3: work these guys. If Austin Hayes is going to make 385 00:19:05,720 --> 00:19:07,639 Speaker 3: the postseason roster, which I think he will now at 386 00:19:07,640 --> 00:19:08,960 Speaker 3: this point because he's going to get a week of 387 00:19:09,000 --> 00:19:11,160 Speaker 3: at bats. He'll get a week more of like live 388 00:19:11,400 --> 00:19:15,199 Speaker 3: simulated at bats, assuming they get to buy. So you 389 00:19:15,200 --> 00:19:19,680 Speaker 3: could have Hayes and left maybe platoon with Brandon Marsh. 390 00:19:19,960 --> 00:19:23,720 Speaker 3: You could have Marsh place in center field. You could 391 00:19:23,760 --> 00:19:27,000 Speaker 3: have Rojas and Cal Stevenson platoon in center field. You 392 00:19:27,040 --> 00:19:29,520 Speaker 3: have Cody Clemens who can play some left field. They 393 00:19:29,560 --> 00:19:33,800 Speaker 3: have a lot of options right now, do you guys 394 00:19:33,880 --> 00:19:36,520 Speaker 3: lean any particular way and how you would like to 395 00:19:36,560 --> 00:19:38,959 Speaker 3: see it work? I think the Austin Hayes is an 396 00:19:38,960 --> 00:19:41,479 Speaker 3: everyday player and left field thing is, in my opinion, 397 00:19:41,480 --> 00:19:44,119 Speaker 3: has got to go bye by because his splits left 398 00:19:44,119 --> 00:19:46,840 Speaker 3: the righty are just ridiculously drastic. He's got like a 399 00:19:46,920 --> 00:19:49,240 Speaker 3: nine hundred ops against left these a five to fifty 400 00:19:49,280 --> 00:19:52,720 Speaker 3: ops against righty's. How would you guys. 401 00:19:52,520 --> 00:19:55,600 Speaker 2: Like to play that? If Hayes is back, which I 402 00:19:55,600 --> 00:19:56,480 Speaker 2: assume he will. 403 00:19:56,320 --> 00:19:59,680 Speaker 5: Make, I think good. 404 00:20:00,760 --> 00:20:03,760 Speaker 4: I think I think Hayes is definitely going to play 405 00:20:03,800 --> 00:20:06,560 Speaker 4: a lot, and he may play more than He may 406 00:20:06,560 --> 00:20:10,240 Speaker 4: not be an everyday guy just because I don't know healthwise, 407 00:20:10,280 --> 00:20:12,240 Speaker 4: if they're worried about whether or not he's able to 408 00:20:12,280 --> 00:20:15,359 Speaker 4: do that, He's definite going to play against lefties, no doubt, 409 00:20:16,440 --> 00:20:18,480 Speaker 4: especially with the way this team is swinging the bat. 410 00:20:18,560 --> 00:20:21,960 Speaker 4: They need some depth in the back end of that lineup. 411 00:20:22,040 --> 00:20:25,120 Speaker 4: And uh and when he's going well, I mean, he can, 412 00:20:25,200 --> 00:20:27,080 Speaker 4: he can make some contact, he can put the ball 413 00:20:27,119 --> 00:20:29,360 Speaker 4: in play, he can have some grinder at bats. They 414 00:20:29,400 --> 00:20:32,040 Speaker 4: need some grinders. They need some guys who can put 415 00:20:32,080 --> 00:20:34,920 Speaker 4: the ball in play and to have quality at bats. 416 00:20:34,920 --> 00:20:37,359 Speaker 4: So I think that's what's I believe that's going to happen. 417 00:20:37,600 --> 00:20:41,600 Speaker 4: He may actually play quite a bit against writings just 418 00:20:41,640 --> 00:20:44,399 Speaker 4: to see, you know, towards the end here, I'm not 419 00:20:44,440 --> 00:20:46,399 Speaker 4: sure how many right handers are going to be pitching 420 00:20:46,480 --> 00:20:49,440 Speaker 4: for I don't even think. I guess there's maybe one 421 00:20:49,560 --> 00:20:53,840 Speaker 4: left hander for Washington and Mackenzie Gore. 422 00:20:54,119 --> 00:20:56,840 Speaker 5: Is Corbyn still in the rotation because they have two. 423 00:20:58,920 --> 00:21:01,800 Speaker 4: But he's gonna get some even if he's even if 424 00:21:01,800 --> 00:21:04,760 Speaker 4: they're right handed. I mean, I think they're gonna try 425 00:21:04,800 --> 00:21:06,720 Speaker 4: to get him as many at bats as possible to 426 00:21:07,040 --> 00:21:10,480 Speaker 4: get him ready and then decide, because nobody else is 427 00:21:10,520 --> 00:21:11,320 Speaker 4: really lighting. 428 00:21:11,040 --> 00:21:14,359 Speaker 6: It up, he should play right through. Because this rest 429 00:21:14,480 --> 00:21:16,960 Speaker 6: thing about you know, clinching gets some rest. To me, 430 00:21:17,000 --> 00:21:19,080 Speaker 6: it's a little overrated. This year because you're gonna get 431 00:21:19,080 --> 00:21:21,800 Speaker 6: a first round by you're gonna get your rest, so 432 00:21:21,920 --> 00:21:26,120 Speaker 6: you know, I would I would go with the hangover rest, 433 00:21:26,680 --> 00:21:28,680 Speaker 6: maybe a day or two for you, you know, Harper 434 00:21:29,119 --> 00:21:33,280 Speaker 6: and real mudo couple, but you know you're gonna get 435 00:21:33,320 --> 00:21:36,359 Speaker 6: rest during that first round week when the other teams 436 00:21:36,400 --> 00:21:38,040 Speaker 6: are playing, so you're gonna be I think it's a 437 00:21:38,040 --> 00:21:39,200 Speaker 6: little balancing act there. 438 00:21:39,200 --> 00:21:41,919 Speaker 3: But what about the postseason though? Do you run him 439 00:21:41,960 --> 00:21:43,120 Speaker 3: out there against the right game? 440 00:21:43,280 --> 00:21:45,600 Speaker 6: I'm saying you need to. You need to play Austin 441 00:21:46,320 --> 00:21:47,000 Speaker 6: to get get him a. 442 00:21:46,960 --> 00:21:50,119 Speaker 7: Lot in this final week, right right? And I get that, Yeah, probably. 443 00:21:49,840 --> 00:21:52,400 Speaker 6: Because you need the contact, so you're probably gonna play him. 444 00:21:52,640 --> 00:21:54,600 Speaker 6: You're definitely gonna play them against lefties. I don't know what. 445 00:21:54,720 --> 00:21:57,840 Speaker 6: You know, what are they gonna do against? Uh, against righties? 446 00:21:57,840 --> 00:22:03,320 Speaker 2: I'm not sure Clemmens, thank you, Clemens mar. 447 00:22:03,520 --> 00:22:04,040 Speaker 5: I don't know. 448 00:22:04,080 --> 00:22:06,520 Speaker 4: Maybe maybe Clemens. He's had some pretty good at bats. 449 00:22:06,560 --> 00:22:07,800 Speaker 4: I mean, I know he struck out the end of 450 00:22:07,800 --> 00:22:11,760 Speaker 4: the game yesterday. But I guess I'll go with marsh 451 00:22:11,840 --> 00:22:14,560 Speaker 4: and left. They could go with marshan center and Clemens 452 00:22:14,560 --> 00:22:16,560 Speaker 4: and left. I don't think that they feel comfortable with 453 00:22:16,640 --> 00:22:18,960 Speaker 4: that sort of that defensive alignment. 454 00:22:18,640 --> 00:22:25,239 Speaker 5: That defensive alignment, I wouldn't. I wouldn't myself. I don't know. 455 00:22:25,520 --> 00:22:27,919 Speaker 5: It's uh, that's why Rob Thompson gets. 456 00:22:27,800 --> 00:22:30,320 Speaker 7: Paid the big bucks, exactly right. 457 00:22:30,880 --> 00:22:34,320 Speaker 3: What about what about Ranger Suarez? His his last start, 458 00:22:34,960 --> 00:22:39,120 Speaker 3: Velo is up, but the command wasn't there. I think 459 00:22:39,119 --> 00:22:41,359 Speaker 3: he spiked like five or six curveballs in the dirty. 460 00:22:41,440 --> 00:22:43,520 Speaker 3: I know he spiked another change up in the dirt, 461 00:22:44,040 --> 00:22:46,080 Speaker 3: so his command really wasn't there. Didn't seem to have 462 00:22:46,080 --> 00:22:47,960 Speaker 3: a feel for his off speed stuff. But did you 463 00:22:48,040 --> 00:22:50,639 Speaker 3: see any reason to be encouraged Because that's such a 464 00:22:50,680 --> 00:22:54,120 Speaker 3: big thing. They will need a fourth starter in the NLDS. 465 00:22:54,119 --> 00:22:56,480 Speaker 3: It's not they don't get that extra day off this year, 466 00:22:56,560 --> 00:22:58,439 Speaker 3: so we're gonna need a fourth starter. 467 00:22:58,680 --> 00:23:01,680 Speaker 4: What I found interesting was his comments after the game 468 00:23:01,920 --> 00:23:04,600 Speaker 4: about him not being able to use his lower half, 469 00:23:04,720 --> 00:23:08,240 Speaker 4: and you could tell I mean the fact that he 470 00:23:08,320 --> 00:23:10,640 Speaker 4: has not been able to get his hips and rotate 471 00:23:10,680 --> 00:23:13,240 Speaker 4: his hips in because and the work in because it's 472 00:23:13,280 --> 00:23:16,320 Speaker 4: been bothering his back, and he hasn't been able to 473 00:23:16,359 --> 00:23:20,359 Speaker 4: do certain things to strengthen his lower half because of 474 00:23:20,400 --> 00:23:24,320 Speaker 4: his back injury. I think they finally found sort of 475 00:23:24,359 --> 00:23:26,600 Speaker 4: a formula, at least that's what it sounded like in 476 00:23:26,640 --> 00:23:30,120 Speaker 4: the interview in the postgame interview, some formula where he's 477 00:23:30,160 --> 00:23:33,239 Speaker 4: been able to either loosen it up or strengthen his 478 00:23:33,400 --> 00:23:36,159 Speaker 4: lower half because that's what it needs. And that's what 479 00:23:36,240 --> 00:23:39,000 Speaker 4: every player needs, whether it's a hitter or a pitcher. 480 00:23:39,320 --> 00:23:42,040 Speaker 4: Your lower half is so important to you for your base, 481 00:23:43,119 --> 00:23:46,480 Speaker 4: for your power, for your drive, for your ability to 482 00:23:46,520 --> 00:23:50,680 Speaker 4: create arm, speed and life, especially for a pitcher. I mean, 483 00:23:51,160 --> 00:23:56,080 Speaker 4: you'll talk to any any pitcher old school, I mean, Nolan, Ryan, 484 00:23:57,280 --> 00:24:01,400 Speaker 4: Tom sever all. Those guys, they their lower halves had 485 00:24:01,440 --> 00:24:04,240 Speaker 4: to be strong, excuse me, and they worked. 486 00:24:04,240 --> 00:24:05,480 Speaker 5: That's why they ran so much. 487 00:24:05,520 --> 00:24:08,080 Speaker 4: They ran so much because they wanted to endurance some 488 00:24:08,119 --> 00:24:11,280 Speaker 4: power in the bottom half. And uh and I think that, 489 00:24:11,800 --> 00:24:15,119 Speaker 4: I think, and I'm hopeful for rangers sake, of the 490 00:24:15,160 --> 00:24:17,480 Speaker 4: Philly sake, that he has sort of turned the corner, 491 00:24:17,560 --> 00:24:20,080 Speaker 4: has gotten his the strength back of his ability to 492 00:24:20,160 --> 00:24:21,280 Speaker 4: drive with his lower half. 493 00:24:21,720 --> 00:24:25,240 Speaker 6: That was illuminating because we've been scratching our head and 494 00:24:25,320 --> 00:24:27,200 Speaker 6: to hear it, and like you said, you know, Johnny 495 00:24:27,200 --> 00:24:29,520 Speaker 6: Padres used to call that lower half your hips, your butt, 496 00:24:29,600 --> 00:24:31,679 Speaker 6: your thighs or him. He used to call it the 497 00:24:31,720 --> 00:24:35,280 Speaker 6: engine room. You know, it was all that power came from. 498 00:24:35,359 --> 00:24:37,760 Speaker 6: You know, you look at Roger. Anytime Roger Clements had 499 00:24:38,320 --> 00:24:41,560 Speaker 6: had a tweak of the right growing, he was shut 500 00:24:41,680 --> 00:24:43,439 Speaker 6: down because you know, they had to nip it in 501 00:24:43,480 --> 00:24:44,760 Speaker 6: the butt because that was his drive. 502 00:24:44,920 --> 00:24:47,520 Speaker 5: So they remember what happened to Holiday. 503 00:24:47,560 --> 00:24:50,000 Speaker 4: And then when when he tweaked his growing in the 504 00:24:50,080 --> 00:24:52,960 Speaker 4: playoffs in San Francisco, didn't really have the finish on 505 00:24:53,000 --> 00:24:55,840 Speaker 4: his pitches, left a couple of pitches of the Cody 506 00:24:56,000 --> 00:24:56,360 Speaker 4: what was. 507 00:24:56,320 --> 00:24:58,960 Speaker 5: It, Cody Ross, Cody I want to show with it. 508 00:24:59,119 --> 00:24:59,520 Speaker 5: I mean that. 509 00:25:01,080 --> 00:25:03,840 Speaker 4: Kills me, that that Cody Ross name, because he got 510 00:25:03,880 --> 00:25:05,600 Speaker 4: beat up a couple of times because he came on 511 00:25:05,640 --> 00:25:08,680 Speaker 4: that sinker in on him. 512 00:25:07,920 --> 00:25:10,239 Speaker 6: And he almost didn't even make the postseason roster if 513 00:25:10,280 --> 00:25:12,760 Speaker 6: Giam didn't get whatever he got in trouble. And remember 514 00:25:12,760 --> 00:25:13,480 Speaker 6: that it was all. 515 00:25:13,480 --> 00:25:16,520 Speaker 5: Ye so he wasn't he was. 516 00:25:16,560 --> 00:25:18,399 Speaker 4: He was picked off a waiver wire because he was 517 00:25:18,440 --> 00:25:19,320 Speaker 4: supposed to be a block. 518 00:25:19,720 --> 00:25:21,440 Speaker 6: He was a block, and then he ended up getting 519 00:25:21,440 --> 00:25:25,399 Speaker 6: on the post. He ended up off the postseason roster 520 00:25:25,480 --> 00:25:26,359 Speaker 6: and what's his name. 521 00:25:26,280 --> 00:25:28,480 Speaker 5: Ended up on cod don't let me don't get me going. 522 00:25:28,520 --> 00:25:31,080 Speaker 3: If you're listening, If you're listening, if you're listening to 523 00:25:31,160 --> 00:25:33,880 Speaker 3: this podcast, you should check out YouTube. Is the look 524 00:25:33,960 --> 00:25:37,280 Speaker 3: on Ruben Space as he's talking about Cody Ross priceless. 525 00:25:38,160 --> 00:25:41,119 Speaker 6: Hey, Ruben, I'll get you off to Cody Ross and 526 00:25:41,160 --> 00:25:45,760 Speaker 6: I'll go on one of my famous tangents. You mentioned lower half, 527 00:25:46,080 --> 00:25:49,000 Speaker 6: and I'm a big believer in the lower half for pictures, 528 00:25:49,000 --> 00:25:51,439 Speaker 6: and we all are. But and you mentioned, you know, 529 00:25:52,000 --> 00:25:54,119 Speaker 6: they don't run as much they used to run. They 530 00:25:54,160 --> 00:25:57,600 Speaker 6: used to run a lot. And when I first started 531 00:25:57,760 --> 00:26:01,000 Speaker 6: covering baseball, there were these things called fallpoles, and you know, 532 00:26:01,040 --> 00:26:03,360 Speaker 6: oh durn VP, the pictures would run foul poles, fall 533 00:26:03,400 --> 00:26:05,800 Speaker 6: poll the foul pole. Today we got five poles, tomorrow 534 00:26:05,840 --> 00:26:08,760 Speaker 6: we got six whatever. I never see that anymore. Do 535 00:26:08,800 --> 00:26:12,160 Speaker 6: you do these guys even know what quote unquote polls are. 536 00:26:13,960 --> 00:26:17,000 Speaker 4: I don't know, but I do know the foul poles. 537 00:26:17,520 --> 00:26:20,719 Speaker 4: I think that some guys still do it. But I 538 00:26:20,760 --> 00:26:23,280 Speaker 4: think the wear and tear that it guests that running 539 00:26:23,359 --> 00:26:25,040 Speaker 4: creates on some of these guys, of. 540 00:26:25,240 --> 00:26:26,600 Speaker 5: Backs and stuff like that. 541 00:26:28,560 --> 00:26:33,600 Speaker 4: And I'm sure there's technology now to keep these guys strong, But. 542 00:26:34,800 --> 00:26:38,880 Speaker 5: Some guys some guys just don't do it. I think 543 00:26:38,920 --> 00:26:40,399 Speaker 5: it's different. I don't see poles. 544 00:26:40,480 --> 00:26:42,800 Speaker 4: I think poles were the greatest thing for me to 545 00:26:42,840 --> 00:26:45,920 Speaker 4: get myself ready for spring training. I mean that's all 546 00:26:45,960 --> 00:26:48,479 Speaker 4: I did was run poles, man, and I dreaded them 547 00:26:48,520 --> 00:26:49,480 Speaker 4: and I hated them. 548 00:26:49,800 --> 00:26:52,800 Speaker 5: You know, you jog for about. 549 00:26:51,920 --> 00:26:56,720 Speaker 4: You know, twenty yards, you sprint for about you know, 550 00:26:56,840 --> 00:26:59,439 Speaker 4: seventy yards or eighty yards, and then you jog the 551 00:26:59,440 --> 00:27:02,080 Speaker 4: rest of the way and yet turn around and do 552 00:27:02,119 --> 00:27:08,400 Speaker 4: it again. And uh, those were a B I. T. C. H. 553 00:27:08,640 --> 00:27:08,800 Speaker 6: Jim. 554 00:27:08,880 --> 00:27:11,359 Speaker 2: Maybe they're like you, and maybe they're on the elliptical. 555 00:27:12,600 --> 00:27:14,600 Speaker 6: He used to committing on like the white board in 556 00:27:14,640 --> 00:27:19,440 Speaker 6: the clubhouse. You know, you got pitchers, you know, ten poles. Yeah, 557 00:27:19,520 --> 00:27:21,920 Speaker 6: I would be willing to bet a lot of guys 558 00:27:21,920 --> 00:27:24,080 Speaker 6: don't know what polls are. It was such as you 559 00:27:24,080 --> 00:27:25,480 Speaker 6: know that was the lingo poles. 560 00:27:25,760 --> 00:27:30,240 Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, Philip Phillies Cubs this week one of these 561 00:27:30,280 --> 00:27:31,120 Speaker 3: three games, guys, I. 562 00:27:31,080 --> 00:27:32,640 Speaker 5: Only make a prediction. They're gonna they're. 563 00:27:32,440 --> 00:27:33,800 Speaker 2: Gonna win one of these three games. 564 00:27:35,000 --> 00:27:35,560 Speaker 6: You don't want to. 565 00:27:36,280 --> 00:27:39,640 Speaker 4: Can you imagine the disaster that could happen if they 566 00:27:39,680 --> 00:27:43,200 Speaker 4: get to the point where they are in the next 567 00:27:43,240 --> 00:27:45,359 Speaker 4: in the Washington series and they have to win a 568 00:27:45,359 --> 00:27:49,199 Speaker 4: baseball game. Washington's got nothing to lose, and they just 569 00:27:49,280 --> 00:27:50,159 Speaker 4: go hog wild. 570 00:27:50,240 --> 00:27:54,760 Speaker 5: I mean what this city would be, Uh, it will 571 00:27:54,800 --> 00:27:55,960 Speaker 5: be a blaze. 572 00:27:56,359 --> 00:27:58,760 Speaker 6: It always going to pitch great tonight. He's gonna give 573 00:27:58,760 --> 00:28:03,800 Speaker 6: you some two thirds two runs and Schwarber might might 574 00:28:03,880 --> 00:28:07,560 Speaker 6: hit a leadoff bomb to that would be electrify that place. 575 00:28:07,640 --> 00:28:08,920 Speaker 6: I think they win it Monday night. 576 00:28:08,960 --> 00:28:11,920 Speaker 3: What do you okay? Yes, I think Monday Night. I 577 00:28:11,960 --> 00:28:13,600 Speaker 3: think they I think they lock it down. I think 578 00:28:13,600 --> 00:28:17,679 Speaker 3: they're They're over the the delay. They want to party. 579 00:28:18,080 --> 00:28:19,960 Speaker 2: I like the party. They want to party. 580 00:28:20,760 --> 00:28:22,680 Speaker 5: I agree with that. I think that Nate Pearson I 581 00:28:22,680 --> 00:28:24,040 Speaker 5: think is going to start for them. 582 00:28:24,040 --> 00:28:26,959 Speaker 4: He's been a reliever, he was a he was an 583 00:28:27,480 --> 00:28:30,160 Speaker 4: uber prospect for Toronto, has never really come around. 584 00:28:30,200 --> 00:28:32,959 Speaker 5: Always had a great arm, never really came around. 585 00:28:33,000 --> 00:28:36,399 Speaker 4: But hopefully the Phillies can do some damage on this 586 00:28:36,480 --> 00:28:40,280 Speaker 4: guy and knock him out and cruise on home. 587 00:28:40,480 --> 00:28:41,960 Speaker 2: If it doesn't happen on Monday night. 588 00:28:42,000 --> 00:28:47,480 Speaker 3: However, Tuesday's TVD versus Justin Steele Taiwan Walker might pitch 589 00:28:47,520 --> 00:28:50,560 Speaker 3: in that game, but Rob Thompson said they're going to 590 00:28:50,680 --> 00:28:53,440 Speaker 3: use a lot of their bulk guys to get through 591 00:28:53,480 --> 00:28:55,640 Speaker 3: that on Tuesday, and then of course Wednesday would be 592 00:28:55,680 --> 00:28:58,520 Speaker 3: Christopher Sanchez versus Hobby or Assad. 593 00:28:59,040 --> 00:29:00,840 Speaker 2: So I would not be. 594 00:29:00,840 --> 00:29:03,760 Speaker 4: Surprised if Ruiz doesn't pitch that game, if they don't 595 00:29:03,920 --> 00:29:07,960 Speaker 4: need Ruiz, if they clinch, m h, I would not 596 00:29:08,080 --> 00:29:11,760 Speaker 4: be surprised. Oh you know what if they do Clint. 597 00:29:11,880 --> 00:29:15,840 Speaker 4: If they don't clinch and Ruiz is not used, I 598 00:29:15,880 --> 00:29:19,200 Speaker 4: would not be surprised if Ruiz doesn't start as an 599 00:29:19,280 --> 00:29:21,880 Speaker 4: opener and throw a couple of innings and go from there. 600 00:29:22,440 --> 00:29:24,680 Speaker 3: Sound like Rob is open to an opener for that, 601 00:29:24,800 --> 00:29:26,280 Speaker 3: so that would make sense, and that would be a 602 00:29:26,280 --> 00:29:29,720 Speaker 3: good guy to start with. He's been very effective, an outstanding. 603 00:29:29,960 --> 00:29:33,280 Speaker 3: They gotta get a win, and he's been durable. It's 604 00:29:33,280 --> 00:29:33,760 Speaker 3: been durable. 605 00:29:33,800 --> 00:29:34,680 Speaker 2: All right, guys. 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