WEBVTT - New Year, New Career 0:00:00.680 --> 0:00:06.960 LinkedIn News. 0:00:08.360 --> 0:00:12.320 From LinkedIn News and iHeart Podcasts, this is Let's Talk Offline. 0:00:12.520 --> 0:00:14.120 I'm Giana Prudenti. 0:00:13.920 --> 0:00:15.560 And I'm Jamaie Jackson Gadsden. 0:00:16.040 --> 0:00:18.000 First of all, Happy New Year, y'all. 0:00:18.239 --> 0:00:18.919 Yay. 0:00:19.760 --> 0:00:22.520 We are still sharing some of our favorite episodes from 0:00:22.560 --> 0:00:24.840 other shows in the LinkedIn podcast network. 0:00:25.160 --> 0:00:28.800 Yes, and because we're heading into a new year, we 0:00:28.880 --> 0:00:31.640 know some of our work besties might be thinking about 0:00:31.680 --> 0:00:36.120 reinventing their careers, so we're sharing an episode from Hello Monday, 0:00:36.600 --> 0:00:41.640 LinkedIn's Jesse Hemple Chatawick Peloton's Robin Arzon about professional pivots. 0:00:42.159 --> 0:00:45.479 We really loved this episode because as someone who's shifted 0:00:45.520 --> 0:00:49.680 careers a few times herself, Robin's story is really inspiring 0:00:49.760 --> 0:00:52.760 for anyone who might be thinking about pursuing a different profession. 0:00:53.200 --> 0:00:55.600 I mean, she went from being a corporate lawyer to 0:00:55.680 --> 0:00:59.880 a fitness expert, oh goals. Her story goes to show 0:01:00.160 --> 0:01:02.720 that our careers are not linear and we can really 0:01:02.800 --> 0:01:05.679 grow in the most unexpected ways. So we hope you 0:01:05.800 --> 0:01:12.320 enjoy this conversation from Hello Monday. 0:01:15.880 --> 0:01:19.080 From the news team at LinkedIn. I'm Jesse Hemple and 0:01:19.160 --> 0:01:21.959 this is Hello Monday, our show about the changing nature 0:01:22.000 --> 0:01:25.959 of work and how that work is changing us. Even 0:01:26.000 --> 0:01:28.440 if you know exactly what you want to do right 0:01:28.440 --> 0:01:30.759 from the start, there often comes a point in your 0:01:30.800 --> 0:01:35.600 career where it's time to reevaluate. Things change, you change. 0:01:36.040 --> 0:01:38.840 Say you chose law and suddenly you're north of thirty 0:01:38.920 --> 0:01:41.680 with an expensive degree and a big career, and you 0:01:41.760 --> 0:01:44.600 realize you just don't want to do it. How do 0:01:44.640 --> 0:01:46.959 you screw up the courage to leave the safety and 0:01:47.000 --> 0:01:50.680 security of the subject you've mastered and start a new career. 0:01:51.560 --> 0:01:53.400 Today's guest has some advice. 0:01:53.560 --> 0:01:56.320 Say yes before you think you're ready. I see so 0:01:56.400 --> 0:02:00.600 many folks hesitant to throw their hands up to say hell, yeah, 0:02:00.640 --> 0:02:03.200 I'm gonna do that thing, simply because they haven't trained, 0:02:03.240 --> 0:02:05.720 or they haven't read about this or that. It's like, 0:02:05.800 --> 0:02:07.280 figure it out along the way. 0:02:07.800 --> 0:02:10.880 You might recognize that voice. You might even work out 0:02:10.880 --> 0:02:13.840 with her. That's Robin rs On. She's in charge of 0:02:13.880 --> 0:02:17.840 fitness programming for Peloton. Everything she says in her workouts 0:02:18.040 --> 0:02:21.079 sounds a bit like that. To hear Robin today, you 0:02:21.160 --> 0:02:24.080 might think she was always an athlete. In fact, she 0:02:24.120 --> 0:02:26.040 didn't go for her first run until she was in 0:02:26.040 --> 0:02:31.120 her twenties. As a kid, Robin was absolutely passionate about 0:02:31.120 --> 0:02:34.160 the law, so much so that she became a lawyer, 0:02:34.280 --> 0:02:37.560 and she really loved it for a while. But eight 0:02:37.639 --> 0:02:40.200 years in, right around the time that a lot of 0:02:40.200 --> 0:02:43.320 people go for partner, Robin decided it was time to 0:02:43.360 --> 0:02:44.280 go for something else. 0:02:45.200 --> 0:02:46.200 She left law for. 0:02:46.240 --> 0:02:50.880 A career in fitness. Robin's career story mirrors her approach 0:02:50.919 --> 0:02:54.600 to competition. Her dramatic shift looks like a big win 0:02:54.800 --> 0:02:58.360 in hindsight, and it is. She's having an incredible run 0:02:58.440 --> 0:03:03.000 at Peloton, but justice with her marathons or in Robin's case, 0:03:03.120 --> 0:03:07.840 ultra marathons, Robin prepared for this shift. She trained, She 0:03:08.000 --> 0:03:10.600 decided when to hang back and say no to mediocre 0:03:10.639 --> 0:03:14.400 opportunities and when to go all out. And most important, 0:03:14.600 --> 0:03:17.359 she told herself every day that of course she could 0:03:17.400 --> 0:03:20.320 do it. She knows you can too. Here's Robin. 0:03:21.840 --> 0:03:23.520 I wanted to be an attorney since I was ten 0:03:23.600 --> 0:03:25.679 years old. My father was an attorney and he was 0:03:25.720 --> 0:03:28.360 also a law professor of teaching real estate. So I, 0:03:28.919 --> 0:03:31.600 you know, sat at top blue books when I was 0:03:32.680 --> 0:03:34.960 you know, four and five years old for the old 0:03:35.000 --> 0:03:38.440 school lawyers in the house who actually wrote in blue books. 0:03:38.640 --> 0:03:41.880 So I had this enchanted idea that I would arm 0:03:41.920 --> 0:03:44.880 myself with law and you know, go into these these 0:03:44.960 --> 0:03:48.440 battles fuelled with justice, and some of that I did do, 0:03:48.920 --> 0:03:52.760 but you know, the actuality was different than the vision. 0:03:54.280 --> 0:03:57.400 Well, so you you spent a while practicing law, what 0:03:57.520 --> 0:03:58.200 was it eight years? 0:03:59.200 --> 0:04:01.400 Yeah, I was a rise seventh year when I when 0:04:01.400 --> 0:04:02.320 I left my law firm. 0:04:02.760 --> 0:04:05.240 So maybe it could tell us a little bit about 0:04:05.440 --> 0:04:07.920 what you liked and what maybe you liked a little 0:04:07.960 --> 0:04:09.240 bit less during that time. 0:04:10.320 --> 0:04:14.080 Well, I find for ambitious people, we can it's actually 0:04:14.120 --> 0:04:18.000 pretty easy to find an intellectual pursuit that we find interesting, 0:04:18.200 --> 0:04:21.080 even if the subject matter is dry. So I was 0:04:21.120 --> 0:04:24.360 a corporate litigator. I worked with a lot of sec stuff. 0:04:24.360 --> 0:04:26.280 This is at the height of subprime so it was 0:04:26.320 --> 0:04:29.039 a very tense time in the market, and I was 0:04:29.080 --> 0:04:33.840 able to focus and adapt and just dig in. And 0:04:33.880 --> 0:04:38.320 I think intellectual folks often find that it's it's maybe 0:04:38.320 --> 0:04:41.159 not easy, but it's simple to just dig in. But 0:04:41.200 --> 0:04:44.280 that doesn't mean that it's actually aligning with our with 0:04:44.320 --> 0:04:47.200 our values, with our goals, and with a happiness quotient. 0:04:47.279 --> 0:04:49.960 That is something that I discovered when I was leading 0:04:50.000 --> 0:04:54.279 a divorce existence between athletics and law. So what I 0:04:54.440 --> 0:04:57.799 liked about law, I worked with brilliant partners. I learned 0:04:57.839 --> 0:05:01.120 about business. I think through OSMO, I would not have 0:05:01.320 --> 0:05:05.280 viewed fitness as a business and myself frankly as a brand, 0:05:05.320 --> 0:05:09.120 as a burgeoning brand then had I not worked in 0:05:09.200 --> 0:05:13.040 corporate litigation. But I also knew that there was something 0:05:13.120 --> 0:05:15.599 palpably missing when I would count down the hours in 0:05:15.640 --> 0:05:17.240 my day until I could go for a thirty minute 0:05:17.320 --> 0:05:20.039 run in such a park, so that divorced existence was 0:05:20.080 --> 0:05:21.360 not satisfying. 0:05:21.360 --> 0:05:24.640 And that running piece. I was surprised to discover that 0:05:24.680 --> 0:05:27.120 you actually hadn't grown up. If you had loved law 0:05:27.160 --> 0:05:28.920 at ten, you did not love running at ten. 0:05:29.040 --> 0:05:36.159 Right, No, I was allergic to exercise actually into adulthood. 0:05:36.240 --> 0:05:39.360 I was the arts and crafts and straight a student. 0:05:39.480 --> 0:05:42.520 I did not identify as an athlete. I was petrified 0:05:42.560 --> 0:05:45.279 of gym class. I actually was made fun of for 0:05:45.320 --> 0:05:46.880 the way I ran when I was a kid. So 0:05:46.960 --> 0:05:49.400 I think that that stuck in my brain early as 0:05:49.440 --> 0:05:51.840 something that I didn't do, and I had to really 0:05:51.920 --> 0:05:54.680 recreate myself and start to write a different story. Once 0:05:54.720 --> 0:05:57.640 I realized that I was curious about what this running 0:05:57.640 --> 0:05:58.160 thing was. 0:05:58.920 --> 0:06:00.000 How did you come to running? 0:06:00.320 --> 0:06:03.440 Frankly, it was really through trauma. I was in law school, 0:06:04.000 --> 0:06:06.560 and the prior year, in my senior year at NYU, 0:06:06.640 --> 0:06:08.880 I was held at gunpoint in New York City, and 0:06:08.920 --> 0:06:12.960 that experience understandably stayed with me. A year later, when 0:06:13.000 --> 0:06:14.680 I was in law school, I realized, Wow, I guess 0:06:14.680 --> 0:06:16.440 I didn't really deal with as much of this as 0:06:16.440 --> 0:06:19.760 I thought I had, And I have no idea why, 0:06:19.800 --> 0:06:22.200 but I was drawn to a pair of shoes that 0:06:22.279 --> 0:06:24.560 were in the back of my closet collecting dust, and 0:06:24.600 --> 0:06:27.680 I decided to jog to class one day instead of 0:06:27.920 --> 0:06:30.520 you know, drive the mile and a half and that 0:06:30.600 --> 0:06:32.400 is where that was really where my journey started. 0:06:33.120 --> 0:06:35.280 Wow, And from a mile and a half, you've moved 0:06:35.279 --> 0:06:37.280 on to fifty miles. 0:06:37.040 --> 0:06:41.839 In a pub yes, ultra marathon territory. 0:06:42.279 --> 0:06:45.159 So during your the remainder of your path through school 0:06:45.440 --> 0:06:48.960 and during the beginning years of your law practice, fitness 0:06:49.080 --> 0:06:52.880 was increasingly important to you. When and how did the 0:06:52.920 --> 0:06:55.040 way that you feel about it really start to change? 0:06:55.520 --> 0:06:58.479 It was a slow burn, I would say, because they 0:06:58.640 --> 0:07:01.240 ran in parallel tracks, you know, up unintended where I 0:07:01.320 --> 0:07:04.480 really was still at the ncency of my law career 0:07:04.640 --> 0:07:09.000 and feeling like, what's more. And while I was falling 0:07:09.000 --> 0:07:11.400 in love with running, I was also getting curious about 0:07:11.720 --> 0:07:13.440 what's it like to be in house, what's it like 0:07:13.480 --> 0:07:15.680 to practice different areas of law? You know, I dabbled 0:07:15.680 --> 0:07:18.600 in trademarks, I had IP stuff, so I was still 0:07:18.720 --> 0:07:22.280 kind of just trying to see if I could make 0:07:23.280 --> 0:07:25.880 the passion I found in the run something that I 0:07:25.920 --> 0:07:29.760 could find in my day to day law practice. And 0:07:30.040 --> 0:07:32.800 because I was so new, having practiced only a few years, 0:07:32.880 --> 0:07:34.640 I thought, there's got to be something out there that 0:07:34.680 --> 0:07:38.800 I haven't considered. And it was in that search actually 0:07:38.840 --> 0:07:41.480 that I started to realize if I uncheck all the 0:07:41.520 --> 0:07:45.400 boxes of what folks say you could do in journalism 0:07:45.520 --> 0:07:49.160 or using the written word or storytelling within wellness, which 0:07:49.160 --> 0:07:51.840 is really where my mind was going. I thought, maybe 0:07:51.840 --> 0:07:56.320 I can create a career that hasn't really happened before. 0:07:56.680 --> 0:07:59.120 As you lay out your law career, and I think 0:07:59.160 --> 0:08:03.360 this is true about firm law in some ways, the 0:08:03.400 --> 0:08:06.280 path is very set, it's very linear. You have a 0:08:06.280 --> 0:08:08.720 good sense of what it looks like, and there's something 0:08:08.840 --> 0:08:12.120 very safe to that. And when you choose instead to 0:08:12.240 --> 0:08:14.960 take all of the tools, all of the years of school, 0:08:15.120 --> 0:08:18.560 in some cases years of student debt, and aim it 0:08:18.680 --> 0:08:21.320 towards a thing that you can't name yet. Well, that's 0:08:21.320 --> 0:08:23.960 got to take a level of bravery, and I'm just 0:08:24.120 --> 0:08:25.440 curious how you thought about it. 0:08:25.480 --> 0:08:29.680 At the time, it did feel brave, but maybe not 0:08:29.720 --> 0:08:32.120 as brave as I realize it was in retrospect. I 0:08:32.160 --> 0:08:34.280 bet on myself and I still believe that I'm my 0:08:34.320 --> 0:08:38.080 greatest investment. I had to assess my worth and then 0:08:38.120 --> 0:08:40.320 add a little tax, and then I had to have 0:08:40.360 --> 0:08:42.680 an honest conversation of what I didn't know and what 0:08:42.800 --> 0:08:46.560 gaps I needed to fill. And I wasn't unknown in 0:08:46.600 --> 0:08:50.600 the marketplace, certainly in wellness, and I had to acknowledge 0:08:50.679 --> 0:08:54.319 that I had to say no quite a few times 0:08:54.800 --> 0:08:57.760 to offer as I didn't think were of my value 0:08:58.440 --> 0:09:00.640 and continue to bet on myself until I got the 0:09:00.720 --> 0:09:05.000 right yeses. And that balancing act for about eighteen months 0:09:05.040 --> 0:09:08.000 before I found Peloton was really really challenging, because every 0:09:08.000 --> 0:09:09.760 time you say no and you have a red check, 0:09:09.800 --> 0:09:12.320 do you feel like you might be at the end 0:09:12.320 --> 0:09:12.920 of the line. 0:09:13.000 --> 0:09:16.839 I love that idea of saying no, like you're moving 0:09:16.880 --> 0:09:20.480 away from the thing that you have known, you're moving 0:09:20.520 --> 0:09:24.040 towards something new. Talk a little bit about figuring out 0:09:24.080 --> 0:09:26.119 what to say yes to and when. 0:09:26.600 --> 0:09:30.880 I'm a big fan of both journaling and vision boards, 0:09:30.960 --> 0:09:33.200 I think they get us in alignment with what the 0:09:33.240 --> 0:09:36.360 heck we want, and if we can provide some specificity, 0:09:36.520 --> 0:09:39.480 either visually or in the written word, that actually goes 0:09:39.480 --> 0:09:41.720 a long way. So what feels like an arts and 0:09:41.760 --> 0:09:45.520 crafts exercise of cutting out things and magazines might feel 0:09:45.600 --> 0:09:49.960 futile or juvenile, but it actually for me illustrated very 0:09:49.960 --> 0:09:56.120 clearly that I wanted to somehow marry the business acumen 0:09:56.160 --> 0:09:58.640 that I had acquired as a lawyer with something that 0:09:58.840 --> 0:10:02.480 was forward thinking and modern, marrying technology and entertainment, and 0:10:02.520 --> 0:10:05.000 I wanted to insert myself in that story, not telling 0:10:05.040 --> 0:10:07.920 other people's stories, but telling my own. It was because 0:10:08.080 --> 0:10:11.800 I was able to identify that as sort of objectives 0:10:11.840 --> 0:10:15.160 and values that mattered to me that I was able 0:10:15.200 --> 0:10:17.720 to see a blurb of Peloton. I don't even think 0:10:17.720 --> 0:10:20.240 it's more than one hundred words about Peloton and Peloton 0:10:20.360 --> 0:10:22.920 CEO Don Foley, that I was able to identify that 0:10:23.040 --> 0:10:25.240 as the shiny thing that I wanted, and I put myself, 0:10:25.320 --> 0:10:27.880 you know, directly in its path. I literally cold emailed 0:10:27.880 --> 0:10:30.319 the company and I said we need to work together, 0:10:30.360 --> 0:10:32.280 and I was hired I think forty eight hours later. 0:10:32.360 --> 0:10:35.000 So but if I would have just summed right through 0:10:35.000 --> 0:10:37.839 the magazine, if I hadn't identified that in myself in 0:10:37.840 --> 0:10:40.400 what I wanted my goals to be. So I think 0:10:40.440 --> 0:10:43.040 the process really it really starts inward. 0:10:43.480 --> 0:10:46.640 Do you still do that? Is, do you journal consistency? 0:10:46.960 --> 0:10:49.480 Yes, there are a lot of theories and ways to 0:10:49.720 --> 0:10:52.679 navigate goal setting, and you know with acronym smart goals 0:10:52.720 --> 0:10:55.240 all that, I totally agree with it. But for me, 0:10:55.320 --> 0:10:57.920 it's just a quarterly seasonal gut check of like what 0:10:57.960 --> 0:11:00.520 am I doing? Where am I going? Have I been 0:11:00.600 --> 0:11:04.320 uncomfortable enough recently? And if the answer is no, I'm 0:11:04.320 --> 0:11:05.479 not on the right path. 0:11:05.880 --> 0:11:08.720 How do you continue to remain uncomfortable? 0:11:09.400 --> 0:11:13.120 Oh? I love it. I revered discomfort. As an athlete, 0:11:13.200 --> 0:11:15.880 it's actually a pretty easy thing to identify with because 0:11:15.920 --> 0:11:17.600 when you're in the middle of a sprint, or you're 0:11:17.679 --> 0:11:20.280 at the end of a long run, or when you 0:11:20.360 --> 0:11:24.000 picked up the heavier weight that day, you're very uncomfortable, 0:11:24.040 --> 0:11:27.199 and in the moment, you don't love it, but you 0:11:27.280 --> 0:11:31.440 learn to love the feeling, the after feeling. So when 0:11:31.480 --> 0:11:33.680 you extrapolate that to other areas of your life, it 0:11:33.760 --> 0:11:34.640 still rings true. 0:11:34.960 --> 0:11:39.839 When did the idea of athlete become central to your identity. 0:11:39.800 --> 0:11:42.240 Increasingly as I was a lawyer. I mean, you don't. 0:11:42.320 --> 0:11:46.400 You don't cross a marathon finish line and not adopt 0:11:46.520 --> 0:11:49.760 some kind of moniker that honors that accomplishment. 0:11:50.840 --> 0:11:52.880 Yeah, I guess that's true. Tell me about running your 0:11:52.920 --> 0:11:53.520 first marathon. 0:11:53.920 --> 0:11:56.680 I ran it. It was New York City Marathon in 0:11:56.880 --> 0:11:57.600 twenty ten. 0:11:57.920 --> 0:12:00.760 That was your first one, the New York City Marie, New. 0:12:00.679 --> 0:12:04.000 York City, where I thought it was my first crossing 0:12:04.000 --> 0:12:06.560 that finish line in Social Park. It did change me. 0:12:06.600 --> 0:12:08.280 And I was still a lawyer, and I was still 0:12:08.280 --> 0:12:13.400 in the throes of my low career and really trying 0:12:13.400 --> 0:12:15.839 to get on that partner track. And it planted a seed. 0:12:15.880 --> 0:12:18.120 It planted a seed of curiosity, and I was not 0:12:18.200 --> 0:12:19.080 able to ignore it. 0:12:19.360 --> 0:12:21.760 There's this thing that I have heard you say in 0:12:21.800 --> 0:12:25.400 a couple of your workouts. Now maybe you say in 0:12:25.440 --> 0:12:30.679 everyone where you remind us as we're running that relaxing 0:12:30.679 --> 0:12:34.439 in the stride is a key to efficiency. The efficiency 0:12:34.440 --> 0:12:36.440 of the run, I'm getting it wrong. Do you know 0:12:36.480 --> 0:12:38.319 what I'm talking about? Yeah, better than I do. 0:12:38.880 --> 0:12:40.960 A relaxed runner is an efficient runner. 0:12:41.200 --> 0:12:43.080 I listened to that and it totally speaks to me 0:12:43.080 --> 0:12:46.360 because I'm like, Oh, that's not about running, that's about 0:12:46.400 --> 0:12:51.360 everything else. And I'm curious if that is what fitness 0:12:51.360 --> 0:12:52.079 feels like to you. 0:12:52.480 --> 0:12:55.160 In every area of our lives, we're doing this delicate 0:12:55.240 --> 0:13:01.000 dance between tension and resistance that often creates momentum and 0:13:01.200 --> 0:13:05.560 release from that tension so we can actually get things done. Right. So, 0:13:05.640 --> 0:13:08.520 if you're constantly tensed, that actually isn't a state of 0:13:08.559 --> 0:13:10.960 being that is effective. But when we do that delicate 0:13:11.040 --> 0:13:14.480 dance between that forward momentum which requires discomfort and resistance 0:13:14.800 --> 0:13:17.079 and the release of it, I mean that is literally 0:13:17.120 --> 0:13:20.880 the contract and relax of a muscle. And frankly, I 0:13:20.880 --> 0:13:23.880 do believe that willpower is a muscle. I believe that resiliency, 0:13:24.480 --> 0:13:26.760 you know, is like a muscle. The more that we 0:13:27.040 --> 0:13:31.720 visit those opportunities, the greater prepared we are for the 0:13:31.720 --> 0:13:34.840 next one. We'll be right back. 0:13:35.360 --> 0:13:59.200 Stick around. So how did you get the peloton job? 0:13:59.320 --> 0:14:01.320 You said it took about forty eight hours after a 0:14:01.360 --> 0:14:02.000 cold email. 0:14:02.440 --> 0:14:06.040 I sent an email to the company after I read 0:14:06.120 --> 0:14:11.360 about Platon as a blurb in a magazine, and I 0:14:11.559 --> 0:14:14.640 just knew that that was it for me. I had 0:14:14.640 --> 0:14:16.440 this gut feeling that I was going to work for them, 0:14:16.920 --> 0:14:19.640 And I was the third instructor hired, and I was 0:14:19.720 --> 0:14:22.280 hired a few months before we opened our original New 0:14:22.360 --> 0:14:25.200 York City studio, And I guess the rest is kind 0:14:25.240 --> 0:14:25.720 of history. 0:14:26.480 --> 0:14:29.160 How central is intuition to the way that you make 0:14:29.200 --> 0:14:30.440 your choices about your career? 0:14:30.840 --> 0:14:33.080 Hugely? I agree that we should be prepared and we 0:14:33.120 --> 0:14:35.560 should be educated, But are you acting it out or 0:14:35.600 --> 0:14:37.680 are you figuring it out like? Just act it like 0:14:37.800 --> 0:14:43.200 just start? So I do believe that my intuition, through 0:14:43.240 --> 0:14:47.160 practices like listening to my own internal conversation on runs, 0:14:47.520 --> 0:14:50.560 actually informs what I do greatly. I don't always need 0:14:51.080 --> 0:14:54.240 to consult with a loved one or someone I respect 0:14:54.320 --> 0:14:56.400 to make a decision. In fact, I often don't. I 0:14:56.440 --> 0:14:58.240 think I am my own best advocate. 0:14:58.560 --> 0:15:00.120 Well, it seems like one of the things that you 0:15:00.160 --> 0:15:03.640 advocate four in your work is helping people the better 0:15:03.720 --> 0:15:07.120 listen to themselves. Again, you cloak it under the umbrella 0:15:07.200 --> 0:15:10.000 of fitness. When people are running with you. You know, 0:15:10.120 --> 0:15:12.040 you think you're working on your physical body, but so 0:15:12.120 --> 0:15:15.560 much of the message that you seem to bring to 0:15:15.600 --> 0:15:18.160 the people that you're working out with is like, make 0:15:18.200 --> 0:15:20.840 space and make time to hear yourself and trust yourself. 0:15:21.920 --> 0:15:22.840 How do you learn that? 0:15:23.240 --> 0:15:26.280 I have to credit marathons training for that, honestly. I mean, 0:15:26.480 --> 0:15:31.400 you don't log thousands of miles and without developing a 0:15:31.440 --> 0:15:34.760 trust for your abilities and your inner conversation. And that 0:15:34.880 --> 0:15:37.360 is the beauty I think of endurance training is that 0:15:37.560 --> 0:15:39.640 when you're out there for a few hours, you've got 0:15:39.680 --> 0:15:41.760 to confront yourself. When I ran five marathons in five 0:15:41.840 --> 0:15:44.520 days across Utah to raise money for MS research, I 0:15:44.560 --> 0:15:48.520 actually did the majority of those marathons without any podcasts 0:15:48.600 --> 0:15:51.080 or audiobooks or music, And that was part of the 0:15:51.160 --> 0:15:53.720 right of passage for me, was to say, Okay, you've 0:15:53.760 --> 0:15:56.280 reached this place in your running journey, can you actually 0:15:56.320 --> 0:15:58.720 do it just out there with yourself on the road 0:15:58.760 --> 0:16:01.880 in the mountains and deserving the beauty of Utah, Which 0:16:02.120 --> 0:16:05.720 was definitely a challenge, but I'm better for it. 0:16:05.920 --> 0:16:08.400 Yeah, what's the next challenge? 0:16:08.440 --> 0:16:11.120 Then? I really fell in love with barbell training in 0:16:11.160 --> 0:16:13.840 the past year. So that was an interesting pivot for 0:16:13.920 --> 0:16:16.000 me that I still run five days a week, but 0:16:17.080 --> 0:16:20.800 marrying that with the trepidation I first felt. You know, 0:16:21.200 --> 0:16:24.920 putting a barbell over my head was a different kind 0:16:24.920 --> 0:16:27.000 of fear, and I thought, ooh, that must be my 0:16:27.080 --> 0:16:30.640 next challenge because I was no longer fearing the run 0:16:31.440 --> 0:16:35.280 and healthy fear. So yeah, now I fear the barbell. 0:16:36.760 --> 0:16:40.480 What have you learned about working at Peloton that you 0:16:40.560 --> 0:16:42.280 might not have been able to learn in the same 0:16:42.320 --> 0:16:44.360 way at corporate law form. 0:16:44.520 --> 0:16:48.200 I have learned so much about business working cross functionally 0:16:48.240 --> 0:16:50.480 with our teams at Peloton, because we're not just a 0:16:50.480 --> 0:16:53.680 connected fitness company. In many ways, we're a media company. 0:16:53.720 --> 0:16:56.600 We're of course a hardware company. We're in the inspiration 0:16:56.840 --> 0:16:59.560 business right from the instructor perspective. I am the head 0:16:59.560 --> 0:17:04.160 instructor Peloton, and we have folks internationally now and. 0:17:05.080 --> 0:17:09.680 Seeing how folks are able to bring a genuine, voracious 0:17:09.800 --> 0:17:14.040 passion for movement but then also marry it with all 0:17:14.080 --> 0:17:16.399 of the things that make a media company a media 0:17:16.400 --> 0:17:17.919 company and a network and network and. 0:17:17.920 --> 0:17:22.399 A business of business. Yeah, it makes me really proud 0:17:22.400 --> 0:17:24.360 to wear a pee on my chest because we are 0:17:24.400 --> 0:17:25.960 often wearing many hats. 0:17:26.160 --> 0:17:28.120 So is there any skill set that is the lead 0:17:28.160 --> 0:17:30.560 skill set, the most important skill set among them. 0:17:30.640 --> 0:17:32.679 I'm hesitant to say it, but this is the real answer. 0:17:33.119 --> 0:17:35.959 It is the authenticity of wanting to do this work. 0:17:36.240 --> 0:17:39.359 Because authenticity now feels like a buzzword in marketing, but 0:17:39.680 --> 0:17:41.520 you know it when you see it, and so does 0:17:41.560 --> 0:17:45.159 the consumer. Over thousands of hours of sweating with someone, 0:17:45.400 --> 0:17:48.560 you really know who they are. And that is what 0:17:48.640 --> 0:17:51.400 we have on earth in the folks who have ultimately 0:17:51.480 --> 0:17:54.560 joined the team, is that there is a First of all, 0:17:54.560 --> 0:17:57.400 it's an eye towards a long term partnership with the company. 0:17:57.720 --> 0:18:01.440 And second, there is a true authenticity and a passion 0:18:01.560 --> 0:18:03.879 for getting people to move and step into their power. 0:18:04.200 --> 0:18:05.680 But from their point of view. 0:18:05.960 --> 0:18:08.840 What's your relationship like with the people who are working 0:18:08.840 --> 0:18:13.280 out with you? Since it's I mean that is often 0:18:13.359 --> 0:18:14.000 not a person. 0:18:14.359 --> 0:18:17.359 I think our members inspire the instructors more than we 0:18:17.440 --> 0:18:18.040 inspire them. 0:18:18.080 --> 0:18:20.360 To be honest, Well, I have to tell you that 0:18:20.720 --> 0:18:22.919 as I was preparing for this, I mentioned it to 0:18:23.280 --> 0:18:27.000 a few people I know who ride peloton and they 0:18:27.080 --> 0:18:29.199 answered in a way that it felt to me like 0:18:29.320 --> 0:18:31.600 you were a friend. That they really wanted to come 0:18:31.640 --> 0:18:34.600 through for And this is not just one person, this 0:18:34.640 --> 0:18:38.560 is multiple people, multiple genders, and that's a lot of 0:18:38.600 --> 0:18:40.480 responsibility to carry Robin. 0:18:40.640 --> 0:18:43.200 There is an intimacy to the relationship that's very different 0:18:43.240 --> 0:18:45.760 than going to watch you know, Angelina jo Lee in 0:18:45.800 --> 0:18:48.480 a movie or something like this is Yeah, there is 0:18:48.520 --> 0:18:50.840 a friendliness and an intimacy. And when your sweating and 0:18:50.880 --> 0:18:54.400 the endorphins are added to the party, that's a that's 0:18:54.440 --> 0:18:55.879 a transformative experience. 0:18:55.920 --> 0:18:58.960 I'd say that's the right phrase. So where does your 0:18:59.080 --> 0:19:02.040 energy come from to be able to continue to bring 0:19:02.080 --> 0:19:04.080 it over and over? For so many people? 0:19:04.359 --> 0:19:09.399 Sleep? I am notoriously a fan of sleep. I am 0:19:09.440 --> 0:19:12.280 a lights out at nine pm kind of gal. I 0:19:12.320 --> 0:19:16.480 really do prioritize my own my fuel, my sleep, my relationships, 0:19:16.520 --> 0:19:18.399 you know, with my family and those closest to me, 0:19:18.800 --> 0:19:21.320 and I own the power of no. No is a 0:19:21.359 --> 0:19:24.399 complete sentence, no with a period at the end of 0:19:24.440 --> 0:19:27.359 it is a full statement. So I establish boundaries in 0:19:27.480 --> 0:19:28.760 order to protect my energy. 0:19:29.440 --> 0:19:31.800 That makes a lot of sense. What's your own workout schedule? 0:19:31.880 --> 0:19:35.040 Like, you know what, the peloton classes aren't my own workouts. 0:19:35.240 --> 0:19:37.760 I kind of include them in the when I'm looking 0:19:37.760 --> 0:19:39.760 at the five thousand foot view of what I do 0:19:39.840 --> 0:19:42.880 every week, but they're not my training sessions. I'm really 0:19:42.920 --> 0:19:44.600 there up service and to be a coach and to 0:19:44.600 --> 0:19:48.840 be a guide. My workout sessions are usually six days 0:19:48.840 --> 0:19:52.040 a week, anywhere from two to three hours a day, 0:19:52.240 --> 0:19:55.560 depending on the season. When my running volume is up, 0:19:55.600 --> 0:19:57.720 those hours go up. And when I'm right now, I'm 0:19:57.720 --> 0:20:00.000 in a season of doing much more strength training, especially 0:20:00.200 --> 0:20:02.040 you know, since we've all been at home so much. 0:20:02.200 --> 0:20:05.359 The balance is usually four days a week of a 0:20:05.359 --> 0:20:10.479 cardio intensive workout, anything from intervals to more endurance cardio training, 0:20:10.600 --> 0:20:13.800 and four to five sessions a week of strength So. 0:20:13.840 --> 0:20:16.000 How long now has it been since you practiced law? 0:20:16.200 --> 0:20:18.480 When did I leave? I left two weeks before the 0:20:18.520 --> 0:20:21.159 twenty twelve London Olympic Games. 0:20:21.600 --> 0:20:26.840 Wow, an interesting uh anchor to market by Yeah, surprising, 0:20:26.880 --> 0:20:32.919 I guess. So as you think about that Robin, the 0:20:33.000 --> 0:20:37.400 Robin of twenty twelve, and I ask this knowing that 0:20:37.520 --> 0:20:41.080 you encourage us to think about the people we are 0:20:41.119 --> 0:20:43.760 in twenty twenty five, to look ahead and to take 0:20:43.800 --> 0:20:47.760 care of those people. Now, what would you tell that 0:20:47.880 --> 0:20:49.280