1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:03,680 Speaker 1: Welcome to everybody to a Wednesday edition they draft Wednesday 2 00:00:03,840 --> 00:00:08,879 Speaker 1: edition of Texans All Access. I am John Harris, Silon Analysts, 3 00:00:08,920 --> 00:00:12,959 Speaker 1: Silon reporter, and I've got the Voice of Texans along 4 00:00:13,000 --> 00:00:16,560 Speaker 1: with me to kick off the show tonight, Mark van Meir. Mark, 5 00:00:16,640 --> 00:00:22,320 Speaker 1: it has been another another crazy wild day in the NFL. 6 00:00:22,440 --> 00:00:24,279 Speaker 1: We have plenty to talk about, Plus we got a 7 00:00:24,320 --> 00:00:26,480 Speaker 1: draft to do. Plus we're gonna learn a lot about 8 00:00:26,480 --> 00:00:29,480 Speaker 1: Ikey Aquanu. How are you doing, my friend, Welcome the show. 9 00:00:29,880 --> 00:00:32,519 Speaker 1: I'm doing great, Johnny. Look, this is quarterback craziness. I 10 00:00:32,520 --> 00:00:34,600 Speaker 1: wrote about it in the Daily Brew on the Texans 11 00:00:34,640 --> 00:00:36,559 Speaker 1: app used to Texans dot com. I mean, it's the 12 00:00:36,600 --> 00:00:39,720 Speaker 1: most important position on the team. It moves the needle 13 00:00:39,760 --> 00:00:42,320 Speaker 1: like nothing else when you have quarterback news in this league. 14 00:00:42,360 --> 00:00:45,000 Speaker 1: Of course, the Texans are in the media storm of 15 00:00:45,040 --> 00:00:48,400 Speaker 1: all this, but kind of sitting back a little bit 16 00:00:48,520 --> 00:00:51,640 Speaker 1: waiting and seeing not the team itself necessarily, well, I 17 00:00:51,640 --> 00:00:53,279 Speaker 1: guess the team itself, but you know what I mean, 18 00:00:53,320 --> 00:00:57,959 Speaker 1: the big story. But these quarterback shifts are really interesting 19 00:00:58,000 --> 00:00:59,480 Speaker 1: for this league. We knew it would be, and now 20 00:00:59,520 --> 00:01:04,600 Speaker 1: that it's hang out, there's no shortage of stuff to discuss. Yeah, 21 00:01:04,640 --> 00:01:07,760 Speaker 1: there's no doubt. There's plenty two discuss We're gonna get 22 00:01:07,760 --> 00:01:10,200 Speaker 1: to the News of the Day before we get to 23 00:01:10,240 --> 00:01:16,720 Speaker 1: our draft. David Thompson, which ironically is the greatest basketball 24 00:01:16,720 --> 00:01:22,000 Speaker 1: player in the history of NC States famed basketball program. 25 00:01:22,360 --> 00:01:25,120 Speaker 1: But he also it's not the same David Thompson, but 26 00:01:25,280 --> 00:01:28,039 Speaker 1: David Thompson also covers Iky a quantu for Ency States. 27 00:01:28,040 --> 00:01:30,000 Speaker 1: So we're gonna learn a little bit more as David 28 00:01:30,040 --> 00:01:32,040 Speaker 1: Thompson sat down with DPCS, so we can learn a 29 00:01:32,080 --> 00:01:34,679 Speaker 1: little bit more about big number seventy nine. You'll hear 30 00:01:34,720 --> 00:01:36,679 Speaker 1: that tonight and then of course Harrison Hunter will come out. 31 00:01:36,680 --> 00:01:39,040 Speaker 1: You'll learn even more. And what you will find is 32 00:01:39,120 --> 00:01:43,680 Speaker 1: that a lot of people will really like Ikey Aquanu 33 00:01:44,680 --> 00:01:47,840 Speaker 1: potentially at number three, potentially at number one, is gonna 34 00:01:47,880 --> 00:01:50,520 Speaker 1: hear his name early on Thursday night of the draft 35 00:01:51,000 --> 00:01:53,720 Speaker 1: later in April, So we'll have that later in the show. 36 00:01:53,800 --> 00:01:56,720 Speaker 1: But mark News of the Day, so I'll let you 37 00:01:56,840 --> 00:01:58,880 Speaker 1: pick it. You want to go non Texans or you 38 00:01:58,920 --> 00:02:02,360 Speaker 1: want to go Texans. Which one. Let's go Texans first. 39 00:02:02,400 --> 00:02:05,840 Speaker 1: I'll take Texans for two hundred. Alex all right, Texans 40 00:02:06,000 --> 00:02:11,880 Speaker 1: News for two hundred. This cornerback. Spent one year with 41 00:02:12,000 --> 00:02:16,359 Speaker 1: the Houston Texans in twenty twenty one, after spending training 42 00:02:16,400 --> 00:02:21,520 Speaker 1: camp in twenty fifteen. Ding Ding Ding ding Ding. Who 43 00:02:21,720 --> 00:02:24,959 Speaker 1: is Terrence Mitchell Now? Terrence Mitchell will not be spending 44 00:02:25,400 --> 00:02:29,280 Speaker 1: twenty twenty two with the Texans. Apparently he has been 45 00:02:29,960 --> 00:02:32,960 Speaker 1: informed that he is going to be released. Mark your 46 00:02:33,000 --> 00:02:37,079 Speaker 1: gut reaction to see in starting cornerback Terrence Mitchell no 47 00:02:37,240 --> 00:02:42,440 Speaker 1: longer with the squad as we head into new league. Here, look, 48 00:02:43,560 --> 00:02:45,400 Speaker 1: what are you gonna do? Right? I mean, you have 49 00:02:45,480 --> 00:02:49,440 Speaker 1: a lot of different directions you can go here, Johnny. 50 00:02:49,480 --> 00:02:52,840 Speaker 1: I think this all plays into the team is going 51 00:02:52,880 --> 00:02:55,800 Speaker 1: to look very different next year. We don't know who's 52 00:02:55,800 --> 00:02:57,880 Speaker 1: gonna be at it. We're gonna be watching very carefully 53 00:02:57,960 --> 00:03:01,200 Speaker 1: for players released by other teams because of their cap 54 00:03:01,280 --> 00:03:05,919 Speaker 1: casualty situations. And we're also going to be seeing names 55 00:03:05,960 --> 00:03:08,000 Speaker 1: and I mentioned this a little bit yesterday, seeing names 56 00:03:08,040 --> 00:03:11,200 Speaker 1: that don't exactly blow up the marquee, but they kind 57 00:03:11,200 --> 00:03:14,359 Speaker 1: of make you go. And I think that's what kind 58 00:03:14,440 --> 00:03:18,480 Speaker 1: of class it's gonna be free agency wise for this team. 59 00:03:18,600 --> 00:03:21,000 Speaker 1: If they do something that you know, they bring in 60 00:03:21,480 --> 00:03:24,280 Speaker 1: the equivalent of a tyrant Matthew or something somebody like that. 61 00:03:24,960 --> 00:03:27,760 Speaker 1: I'll be very surprised, but you never know. I think 62 00:03:27,760 --> 00:03:30,560 Speaker 1: they're gonna build it slow and strong here, and I 63 00:03:30,600 --> 00:03:32,839 Speaker 1: don't mean slow. I hope it's not slow in terms 64 00:03:32,880 --> 00:03:36,760 Speaker 1: of improvement an amount of victories, but I think slow 65 00:03:36,840 --> 00:03:41,080 Speaker 1: in terms of offseason acquisitions free agency wise that sort 66 00:03:41,120 --> 00:03:43,200 Speaker 1: of blow you away and move the needle that way. Yeah, 67 00:03:43,240 --> 00:03:45,560 Speaker 1: we'll put I think that's exactly the way to look 68 00:03:45,600 --> 00:03:48,360 Speaker 1: at it. I don't. I mean, last year had kind 69 00:03:48,400 --> 00:03:53,160 Speaker 1: of a kind of a bargain basement ben DVD. Hey, 70 00:03:53,280 --> 00:03:55,000 Speaker 1: let me see if I can find Old School for 71 00:03:55,080 --> 00:03:58,080 Speaker 1: three bucks down at the bottom of the Walmart DVD bin. 72 00:03:58,600 --> 00:04:00,520 Speaker 1: I think this year goes up a little bit, but 73 00:04:00,560 --> 00:04:02,760 Speaker 1: I don't think you're in the in the in the 74 00:04:02,880 --> 00:04:06,880 Speaker 1: high class, you know, twenty million a year free agents. 75 00:04:07,240 --> 00:04:10,480 Speaker 1: I don't think it's gonna be of that caliber. With 76 00:04:11,080 --> 00:04:14,360 Speaker 1: Terrence's release, that has not been at least I've not 77 00:04:14,440 --> 00:04:17,400 Speaker 1: seen it yet from the team. It has been reported 78 00:04:17,440 --> 00:04:21,560 Speaker 1: by multiple outlets. With Terrence being released, that leaves the 79 00:04:21,680 --> 00:04:28,480 Speaker 1: Texans depth chart at corner treymont Smith, Lonnie Johnson, t J. Green. 80 00:04:28,560 --> 00:04:30,040 Speaker 1: I think it's more as more of a safety. He 81 00:04:30,120 --> 00:04:32,760 Speaker 1: was a really good athlete. You can always play Grayland 82 00:04:32,839 --> 00:04:36,320 Speaker 1: Arnold at the nickel if tavierre Thomas has to go 83 00:04:36,520 --> 00:04:39,280 Speaker 1: play some corner because Tab obviously played the nickel, and 84 00:04:39,360 --> 00:04:43,359 Speaker 1: then Jimmy Morland. So Desmond King is an unrestricted free agent. 85 00:04:44,400 --> 00:04:47,040 Speaker 1: There's been obviously we've talked about who was going to 86 00:04:47,120 --> 00:04:49,560 Speaker 1: come back, who wouldn't. Well, Terrence was on the roster. 87 00:04:49,839 --> 00:04:53,880 Speaker 1: Desmond is technically not going in twenty twenty two, so 88 00:04:54,040 --> 00:04:58,120 Speaker 1: maybe Desmond gets resigned. This also brings to mind a 89 00:04:58,200 --> 00:05:02,320 Speaker 1: conversation that I had last night with my buddy's Eric 90 00:05:02,360 --> 00:05:06,240 Speaker 1: Crocker and Ryan Tracy unlocked on sports because Eric had 91 00:05:06,279 --> 00:05:09,320 Speaker 1: done a mock draft and he had mocked at number 92 00:05:09,440 --> 00:05:16,400 Speaker 1: three to the Texans one Sauce Gardener. Ooh, the six three, 93 00:05:16,560 --> 00:05:21,360 Speaker 1: two hundred pound corner out of Cincinnati at number at 94 00:05:21,480 --> 00:05:24,920 Speaker 1: number three. That's wild. Now, Johnny, all right, before we 95 00:05:25,040 --> 00:05:27,240 Speaker 1: talk about that, or before that gets mentioned again and 96 00:05:27,320 --> 00:05:29,200 Speaker 1: we elaborate on that, if we are to do that 97 00:05:29,279 --> 00:05:34,200 Speaker 1: at all, tell me something about Lonnie at corner versus safety, 98 00:05:34,440 --> 00:05:37,280 Speaker 1: Because Lonnie he's a corner, he's a safety. Now he's 99 00:05:37,320 --> 00:05:39,760 Speaker 1: a corner. Is he gonna stay at corner. How was 100 00:05:39,839 --> 00:05:42,320 Speaker 1: he at corner? Is that really a better place for him? 101 00:05:42,520 --> 00:05:44,640 Speaker 1: I think it's a fit in this defense. I think 102 00:05:44,680 --> 00:05:48,360 Speaker 1: he would play. If you play a significant amount of man, 103 00:05:48,520 --> 00:05:51,480 Speaker 1: maybe that's not the best fit. I think what we 104 00:05:51,560 --> 00:05:54,000 Speaker 1: found with Lonnie when he went to safety is that, yeah, 105 00:05:54,080 --> 00:05:55,960 Speaker 1: he had some interceptions. He was in the right place 106 00:05:55,960 --> 00:05:58,960 Speaker 1: at the right time, but he just never felt comfortable there. 107 00:05:58,960 --> 00:06:01,480 Speaker 1: At least it didn't look like it. I felt like 108 00:06:01,560 --> 00:06:04,560 Speaker 1: that was gonna be his position, just based on size, speed, range, 109 00:06:04,560 --> 00:06:05,840 Speaker 1: all those kind of things. I thought he could be 110 00:06:05,880 --> 00:06:09,000 Speaker 1: a pretty solid middle of the field safety, even a 111 00:06:09,040 --> 00:06:10,880 Speaker 1: guy that come up the box. He's not scared to 112 00:06:10,920 --> 00:06:13,040 Speaker 1: be physical. But when they moved him back out to 113 00:06:13,080 --> 00:06:15,880 Speaker 1: the corner, I remember thinking, yeah, boy, I don't know 114 00:06:15,920 --> 00:06:17,400 Speaker 1: if I like this. But then he got in the field, 115 00:06:17,400 --> 00:06:19,440 Speaker 1: I thought this is pretty good. I think he fits 116 00:06:19,720 --> 00:06:23,320 Speaker 1: this defense at corner, and that's okay. I don't know 117 00:06:23,400 --> 00:06:25,320 Speaker 1: that he would fit a different defense at corner, but 118 00:06:25,440 --> 00:06:27,000 Speaker 1: for this one, I think he fits at corner. I 119 00:06:27,040 --> 00:06:30,120 Speaker 1: wouldn't be surprised at all see Lonnie step up into 120 00:06:30,200 --> 00:06:33,400 Speaker 1: a starting role at corner and really be that guy 121 00:06:34,400 --> 00:06:36,760 Speaker 1: at corner. So it could be kind of interesting with Lonnie. 122 00:06:36,839 --> 00:06:39,320 Speaker 1: Keep our eyes there. He's got it. Most importantly, he's 123 00:06:39,360 --> 00:06:42,480 Speaker 1: gotta just take strides in just his overall play. You know, 124 00:06:42,600 --> 00:06:45,320 Speaker 1: things have got to clean up, you know, just there's 125 00:06:45,320 --> 00:06:47,040 Speaker 1: a part of me that wants to Linnie sometimes stop 126 00:06:47,120 --> 00:06:49,840 Speaker 1: talking and play. Just play, Just play, go to the 127 00:06:49,920 --> 00:06:52,200 Speaker 1: next play. Here's the one thing I've learned about Lonnie 128 00:06:52,200 --> 00:06:54,640 Speaker 1: over the last three years. Though I Joker loves ball. 129 00:06:55,200 --> 00:06:58,840 Speaker 1: He loves football. He loves to play the game and 130 00:06:59,120 --> 00:07:02,480 Speaker 1: loves his teammates. I mean, I've seen him in games 131 00:07:02,520 --> 00:07:04,560 Speaker 1: where he's not playing and all he's doing his rundown 132 00:07:04,560 --> 00:07:07,080 Speaker 1: as a gunner or playing special teams, and he's all 133 00:07:07,120 --> 00:07:09,680 Speaker 1: about cheering up, you know, pumping up his teammates. That's 134 00:07:10,200 --> 00:07:11,720 Speaker 1: I have a lot of respect for him for that. 135 00:07:12,000 --> 00:07:16,600 Speaker 1: It's time now in year number four. Obviously it's a 136 00:07:16,800 --> 00:07:20,400 Speaker 1: contract year, so it's it's time. So I think Lonnie 137 00:07:20,480 --> 00:07:23,600 Speaker 1: could fit. But when Eric made that pick of of 138 00:07:23,760 --> 00:07:27,040 Speaker 1: Sauce Gardner, I was like, wow, and I think you 139 00:07:27,120 --> 00:07:28,720 Speaker 1: had the same kind of the reaction that you did. 140 00:07:28,760 --> 00:07:30,120 Speaker 1: And then I thought about it a little bit. I 141 00:07:30,240 --> 00:07:35,560 Speaker 1: was like, you know, it doesn't, it doesn't. It's not crazy. 142 00:07:36,240 --> 00:07:38,280 Speaker 1: It's not crazy, And then you see the Terrence Mitchell 143 00:07:38,320 --> 00:07:40,680 Speaker 1: news and you're like, oh, it's definitely not crazy to 144 00:07:40,800 --> 00:07:43,720 Speaker 1: think about Corner. I just think they are gonna be 145 00:07:43,840 --> 00:07:46,840 Speaker 1: some corners. And I thought back to to Lovey Smith's 146 00:07:46,920 --> 00:07:53,160 Speaker 1: defenses in Chicago. I thought about Nick Cassario's defenses when 147 00:07:53,200 --> 00:07:55,000 Speaker 1: he was with doing his defense, but his you know, 148 00:07:55,040 --> 00:07:59,160 Speaker 1: the Patriots defenses. They've never really put first round, second 149 00:07:59,240 --> 00:08:03,800 Speaker 1: round value in drafting corners. It's usually been third round, 150 00:08:03,880 --> 00:08:05,800 Speaker 1: fourth round. You know, they found J C. Jackson. I 151 00:08:05,840 --> 00:08:09,400 Speaker 1: don't know where they found him, but they've found guys. 152 00:08:10,360 --> 00:08:12,320 Speaker 1: You know, love Me Smith relying on Chris Ballard, who 153 00:08:12,520 --> 00:08:14,720 Speaker 1: scouted DBS for a long time in the Chicago Bears. 154 00:08:15,160 --> 00:08:17,480 Speaker 1: You know, he told the story about Daniel Manning and 155 00:08:18,000 --> 00:08:21,640 Speaker 1: Charles Peanut Tillman. There's a corner University of Texas whose 156 00:08:21,720 --> 00:08:25,960 Speaker 1: name is escaping me right now. That Ballard was high 157 00:08:26,000 --> 00:08:29,119 Speaker 1: on it. Love drafted those guys with the Chicago Bears 158 00:08:29,280 --> 00:08:31,120 Speaker 1: later in the draft. So I don't know if three 159 00:08:31,240 --> 00:08:33,959 Speaker 1: is a bit too high for Corner kind of based 160 00:08:34,040 --> 00:08:37,559 Speaker 1: on both Nick and Lovey's experiences, but if they were 161 00:08:37,679 --> 00:08:40,160 Speaker 1: on a draft a corner, I think Sauce makes some 162 00:08:40,280 --> 00:08:42,959 Speaker 1: sense because how physical he is. If you bring Desmond back, 163 00:08:43,000 --> 00:08:45,360 Speaker 1: then you got two detroit guys, you know, two guys 164 00:08:45,400 --> 00:08:47,439 Speaker 1: from city Detroit out at corner. So that gets kind 165 00:08:47,440 --> 00:08:51,480 Speaker 1: of interesting. But that that's the news for the Texans. 166 00:08:51,600 --> 00:08:55,960 Speaker 1: Terrence Mitchell released and I'm gonna miss him around the building, Johnny. 167 00:08:56,040 --> 00:08:59,079 Speaker 1: He's a great kid, big smile, you know, one of 168 00:08:59,120 --> 00:09:03,280 Speaker 1: those with great Hallway presents. We had fun doing shows 169 00:09:03,320 --> 00:09:05,880 Speaker 1: with him, and he used with him from the time 170 00:09:05,920 --> 00:09:08,520 Speaker 1: you and I first interviewed him when he basically first 171 00:09:08,559 --> 00:09:11,280 Speaker 1: got on campus or the first like contact we could 172 00:09:11,280 --> 00:09:14,440 Speaker 1: have with these players in an interview setting. But back 173 00:09:14,440 --> 00:09:17,319 Speaker 1: to the corner possibility at number three overall. But I 174 00:09:17,400 --> 00:09:20,200 Speaker 1: find interesting about this is we always talk about pass rush, 175 00:09:20,280 --> 00:09:22,640 Speaker 1: pass rush and Lovey Smith on the fourth three and 176 00:09:22,679 --> 00:09:25,320 Speaker 1: getting heat on the quarterback that way, and don't they 177 00:09:25,440 --> 00:09:27,240 Speaker 1: need some extra help up front to be able to 178 00:09:27,360 --> 00:09:29,880 Speaker 1: do that? And I think people, and I know you 179 00:09:29,920 --> 00:09:32,439 Speaker 1: don't do this, but people get into a trap of 180 00:09:33,000 --> 00:09:35,679 Speaker 1: that first round pick is the only pick you're gonna have, 181 00:09:36,120 --> 00:09:38,720 Speaker 1: that's the only acquisition you're gonna make. Look, they were 182 00:09:38,760 --> 00:09:42,160 Speaker 1: getting some heat on the quarterback last year and they 183 00:09:42,640 --> 00:09:44,280 Speaker 1: you know what they did. They didn't have a pick 184 00:09:44,360 --> 00:09:47,080 Speaker 1: in the first second round. They got free agents, they 185 00:09:47,160 --> 00:09:50,120 Speaker 1: had some draft choices, they got some things done. They 186 00:09:50,200 --> 00:09:52,640 Speaker 1: want to do better, of course, but who's to say 187 00:09:52,720 --> 00:09:54,240 Speaker 1: with all the picks they have this year. And this 188 00:09:54,400 --> 00:09:56,079 Speaker 1: is prior to any kind of trade you make that 189 00:09:56,240 --> 00:09:57,520 Speaker 1: you're not going to be able to get the help 190 00:09:57,559 --> 00:10:00,280 Speaker 1: you need. And Corner wouldn't be the first. We all 191 00:10:00,320 --> 00:10:02,760 Speaker 1: picked four of the Texans, meaning number three overall. But 192 00:10:03,080 --> 00:10:05,920 Speaker 1: tell me, don't you feel like if that does happen. 193 00:10:06,679 --> 00:10:10,959 Speaker 1: That's heavily Lovey influenced maybe or a collaboration of Nick 194 00:10:11,040 --> 00:10:14,560 Speaker 1: Kissaria Lovey Smith saying yeah, let's work on the back end. 195 00:10:14,760 --> 00:10:17,360 Speaker 1: We know we can get pressure if we just get 196 00:10:17,440 --> 00:10:20,760 Speaker 1: the right people. But this is a special player, whoever 197 00:10:20,840 --> 00:10:22,800 Speaker 1: that player might be. Maybe it's sauce, maybe it's not. 198 00:10:23,320 --> 00:10:26,160 Speaker 1: But let's get the really special people in the back 199 00:10:26,320 --> 00:10:29,000 Speaker 1: end as well, because we did suffer from time to 200 00:10:29,160 --> 00:10:31,400 Speaker 1: time last year for sure in that area. And I 201 00:10:31,520 --> 00:10:34,640 Speaker 1: think one of the things obviously you know this, but 202 00:10:34,800 --> 00:10:36,480 Speaker 1: I think the biggest thing that has to be figured 203 00:10:36,520 --> 00:10:39,120 Speaker 1: out is who you bring him back if you can, 204 00:10:39,440 --> 00:10:42,600 Speaker 1: If you can bring back maliek. If you can add 205 00:10:42,640 --> 00:10:46,440 Speaker 1: another piece, if you can resign VT, if you can 206 00:10:46,480 --> 00:10:48,840 Speaker 1: bring a couple of those interior guys that you liked 207 00:10:48,880 --> 00:10:52,120 Speaker 1: from last year back, you know, maybe to Marcus Walker. 208 00:10:52,200 --> 00:10:54,200 Speaker 1: If you can bring a couple of those guys back, 209 00:10:55,160 --> 00:10:57,599 Speaker 1: and let's say you bring those guys back, but you 210 00:10:57,640 --> 00:11:01,839 Speaker 1: can't bring back Justin Reid, then yeah, okay. You know, 211 00:11:01,960 --> 00:11:05,559 Speaker 1: maybe the secondary is a place that you attack relatively early. 212 00:11:06,040 --> 00:11:08,079 Speaker 1: But if you can't bring back some hosses up front, 213 00:11:08,520 --> 00:11:11,240 Speaker 1: there are some houses in this draft. This is definitely 214 00:11:11,280 --> 00:11:13,839 Speaker 1: an edge player draft. You can definitely find one of 215 00:11:13,920 --> 00:11:17,240 Speaker 1: a high caliber early in this draft, middle of this draft, 216 00:11:17,480 --> 00:11:19,280 Speaker 1: late in this draft. I think you can find edge 217 00:11:19,320 --> 00:11:22,000 Speaker 1: rushers and interior guys and a lot of different places. 218 00:11:22,040 --> 00:11:24,040 Speaker 1: I was not a big fan of the interior class 219 00:11:25,040 --> 00:11:26,800 Speaker 1: and I still don't. I still don't love it. But 220 00:11:26,920 --> 00:11:29,400 Speaker 1: the guys at the top of this draft, Jordan Davis 221 00:11:29,480 --> 00:11:32,760 Speaker 1: from Georgia, DeVante Wyatt from Georgia, UM those two in 222 00:11:32,880 --> 00:11:38,000 Speaker 1: particular on the interior Federia Math this from out of Alabama. 223 00:11:38,480 --> 00:11:41,560 Speaker 1: Those guys, I mean, they step right in and play 224 00:11:41,600 --> 00:11:43,199 Speaker 1: for you right away and give you a lot on 225 00:11:43,240 --> 00:11:46,640 Speaker 1: the interior edge rushers. Man, it's just loaded. So you 226 00:11:46,720 --> 00:11:48,520 Speaker 1: can play that game of look, we can get a 227 00:11:48,600 --> 00:11:50,640 Speaker 1: good edge rusher later, but I don't know that we 228 00:11:50,679 --> 00:11:53,319 Speaker 1: can get the caliber a corner right now. That's a 229 00:11:53,400 --> 00:11:54,920 Speaker 1: game you can play. But I think it also has 230 00:11:55,000 --> 00:11:59,199 Speaker 1: to do with what happens in free agency over these 231 00:11:59,360 --> 00:12:02,720 Speaker 1: next ten to twelve days and obviously continues up until 232 00:12:02,800 --> 00:12:05,560 Speaker 1: the drafts. I mean, you've got decisions that you've got 233 00:12:05,640 --> 00:12:07,920 Speaker 1: to make as far as linebackers go. Because Kamu and 234 00:12:08,000 --> 00:12:12,599 Speaker 1: Christian Christian Kirksey are both unrestricted free agents. You know, 235 00:12:12,720 --> 00:12:15,959 Speaker 1: Neville Hewitt's unrestricted free agent. Er Wilson's an unrestricted free agent, 236 00:12:16,000 --> 00:12:19,599 Speaker 1: Hardy Nickerson's unrestricted free agent. So you've got holes a linebacker. 237 00:12:20,679 --> 00:12:23,360 Speaker 1: You've got some obviously up front, you've got five unrestricted 238 00:12:23,400 --> 00:12:26,959 Speaker 1: free agents, so you've got to fill I think some 239 00:12:27,080 --> 00:12:28,840 Speaker 1: of those holes. And if you do fill some of them, 240 00:12:28,920 --> 00:12:31,480 Speaker 1: then you can attack the secondary. If you don't, the 241 00:12:31,640 --> 00:12:34,240 Speaker 1: draft is a good spot I think to find some 242 00:12:34,440 --> 00:12:38,959 Speaker 1: interior players. All right, you're non Texans. News of the 243 00:12:39,120 --> 00:12:44,760 Speaker 1: day was a whopper and it impacts the Texans in 244 00:12:45,400 --> 00:12:47,559 Speaker 1: maybe two ways, depending on how you look at it. 245 00:12:47,640 --> 00:12:51,440 Speaker 1: I think the second way was probably not gonna happen 246 00:12:51,720 --> 00:12:54,320 Speaker 1: as it pertained to a potential trade of a Texans 247 00:12:54,440 --> 00:13:00,439 Speaker 1: quarterback to the Washington Commanders. But it affects the Houston 248 00:13:00,520 --> 00:13:06,400 Speaker 1: Texans because the Indianapolis Colts traded Carson Wentz to the 249 00:13:06,640 --> 00:13:11,520 Speaker 1: Washington Commanders two third round picks a second round pick. 250 00:13:11,880 --> 00:13:15,040 Speaker 1: Swap that second third rounder in twenty twenty three can 251 00:13:15,080 --> 00:13:19,400 Speaker 1: turn into a second rounder if Wentz play seventy percent 252 00:13:19,440 --> 00:13:24,160 Speaker 1: of the plays for the Commanders in twenty twenty two. Mark, 253 00:13:24,240 --> 00:13:26,840 Speaker 1: when you saw the news, what was your gut reaction? 254 00:13:27,800 --> 00:13:31,679 Speaker 1: I thought Washington paid a lot for Carson Wentz, That 255 00:13:31,880 --> 00:13:34,720 Speaker 1: was my reaction. I thought, was the market for Wentz 256 00:13:35,000 --> 00:13:39,760 Speaker 1: that thick that strong? Did they have other teams that 257 00:13:39,840 --> 00:13:42,440 Speaker 1: were pining for Wentz? Look, it's not like he went 258 00:13:42,520 --> 00:13:45,319 Speaker 1: for a couple of ones, But Johnny, this is a 259 00:13:45,400 --> 00:13:47,920 Speaker 1: pretty big haul that the Colts are getting to get 260 00:13:48,000 --> 00:13:50,840 Speaker 1: out of Wentz jail right now, which clearly they felt 261 00:13:50,920 --> 00:13:53,160 Speaker 1: like they were in after what happened in the final 262 00:13:53,200 --> 00:13:56,640 Speaker 1: two regular season games this past season and the fact 263 00:13:56,679 --> 00:13:59,520 Speaker 1: that they lost a one to discover that he was 264 00:13:59,600 --> 00:14:01,600 Speaker 1: not going to come through in the clutch for them. Now, 265 00:14:01,640 --> 00:14:04,840 Speaker 1: look if they'd opted to run it back with Wentz. 266 00:14:04,920 --> 00:14:07,360 Speaker 1: Just in a pure football sense, I think a lot 267 00:14:07,400 --> 00:14:09,439 Speaker 1: of people would have been okay with it. But what 268 00:14:09,600 --> 00:14:12,640 Speaker 1: you're hearing some of the leaks from behind the scenes, 269 00:14:13,040 --> 00:14:15,800 Speaker 1: and it probably had to end, and clearly it did end. 270 00:14:16,080 --> 00:14:19,120 Speaker 1: So that was my reaction. It cost a lot for 271 00:14:19,280 --> 00:14:22,680 Speaker 1: Washington relatively, But if he's going to really upgrade them 272 00:14:22,800 --> 00:14:26,480 Speaker 1: that much, okay. My other question is is he really 273 00:14:26,480 --> 00:14:29,160 Speaker 1: going to upgrade them that much? I mean, I'm not 274 00:14:29,360 --> 00:14:33,040 Speaker 1: saying he's not better than Taylor Heineke, but gee, you 275 00:14:33,120 --> 00:14:35,960 Speaker 1: already have a guy who's kind of capable there. All right, 276 00:14:36,040 --> 00:14:39,240 Speaker 1: injuries were an issue last year. Is there another way 277 00:14:39,360 --> 00:14:41,400 Speaker 1: you can go? I'm sure they thought about it. Of 278 00:14:41,480 --> 00:14:44,920 Speaker 1: course they did, because they went for Wentz for a lot. 279 00:14:46,360 --> 00:14:50,520 Speaker 1: I'm I was shaking my head. I mean, I shouldn't 280 00:14:50,520 --> 00:14:52,800 Speaker 1: even tell you that. When I saw the news, you 281 00:14:53,080 --> 00:14:58,240 Speaker 1: I did, I burst out laughing because I was like, 282 00:14:58,400 --> 00:15:02,320 Speaker 1: oh my gosh, Washington and bit and then I was like, 283 00:15:02,480 --> 00:15:05,000 Speaker 1: of course, just like with the Russell Wilson trade, like okay, 284 00:15:05,040 --> 00:15:07,000 Speaker 1: what did they get if they gave up a six 285 00:15:07,160 --> 00:15:10,680 Speaker 1: for him? Then yeah, okay then and okay, no big deal. 286 00:15:11,240 --> 00:15:14,560 Speaker 1: They gave up two thirds and swapped second round picks, 287 00:15:14,840 --> 00:15:16,400 Speaker 1: and one of the thirds could turn it to his 288 00:15:16,520 --> 00:15:25,600 Speaker 1: second I mean, what what what so? I mean Carson 289 00:15:25,680 --> 00:15:28,640 Speaker 1: Wentz had every advantage going to Indiapolis. He had a 290 00:15:28,720 --> 00:15:31,920 Speaker 1: great offensive line, he had Jonathan Taylor coming to his 291 00:15:32,000 --> 00:15:34,560 Speaker 1: own head, Michael Pittman hit a couple of really good 292 00:15:34,600 --> 00:15:37,200 Speaker 1: tight ends, although one of them has retired in Jack Doyl. 293 00:15:39,160 --> 00:15:41,560 Speaker 1: I mean he rolled right. Oh and by the way, 294 00:15:41,720 --> 00:15:46,280 Speaker 1: the coach absolutely one thousand percent believed to be in him. 295 00:15:46,320 --> 00:15:49,920 Speaker 1: And what the bat with the Colts management Ballard and 296 00:15:49,960 --> 00:15:52,440 Speaker 1: Nursey and said, this is the guy, make the deal. 297 00:15:53,720 --> 00:15:57,320 Speaker 1: And then they stepped in it by getting him, and 298 00:15:57,440 --> 00:15:59,920 Speaker 1: then it doesn't work out, and now they're stuck with him. 299 00:16:00,120 --> 00:16:02,920 Speaker 1: They're gonna have to release him, and the commanders bail 300 00:16:03,000 --> 00:16:06,200 Speaker 1: them out. Like I just I was dumbfounded. I was 301 00:16:06,320 --> 00:16:11,320 Speaker 1: just like, what what what are you doing? Commanders? Now? 302 00:16:12,800 --> 00:16:15,920 Speaker 1: From the commander's side, good luck, I mean good luck 303 00:16:16,200 --> 00:16:19,520 Speaker 1: In Philadelphia rubbed everybody the wrong way. In Indianapolis, he 304 00:16:19,600 --> 00:16:24,800 Speaker 1: rubbed people the wrong way. I mean, Leopard doesn't change spots. 305 00:16:25,520 --> 00:16:29,000 Speaker 1: So it's it is not gonna be easy for Carson 306 00:16:29,120 --> 00:16:34,080 Speaker 1: wentz in Washington at all, But now the Coats gotta 307 00:16:34,080 --> 00:16:35,760 Speaker 1: find a quarterback. And of course all the talk turned 308 00:16:35,800 --> 00:16:38,000 Speaker 1: to Jimmy G. When I was out with Matt Taylor 309 00:16:38,320 --> 00:16:40,680 Speaker 1: in Indianapolis and he asked me about it, I said, 310 00:16:40,760 --> 00:16:43,320 Speaker 1: why don't you know if Rogers goes back to Green Bay, 311 00:16:43,320 --> 00:16:45,560 Speaker 1: why don't they call about Jordan Love? Just just see, 312 00:16:46,240 --> 00:16:48,560 Speaker 1: just see if Jordan Loves available? And that started a 313 00:16:48,640 --> 00:16:52,120 Speaker 1: leak out, So maybe I started a rumor. I don't know. Well, hey, hey, 314 00:16:52,360 --> 00:16:55,440 Speaker 1: as a Texan, would you rather see Jimmy G there, 315 00:16:55,560 --> 00:17:04,880 Speaker 1: Jimmy G. Johnny jim Jimmy Gee's gonna win game one year, 316 00:17:05,040 --> 00:17:07,400 Speaker 1: He's gonna one year, He's gonna win like more games 317 00:17:07,480 --> 00:17:10,800 Speaker 1: in Jordan Love. But Jordan Love hits man. We need Andre, 318 00:17:11,040 --> 00:17:13,760 Speaker 1: We need Andrea on the call, our buddy Andrea wearing 319 00:17:13,840 --> 00:17:18,359 Speaker 1: a call because Andrea will tell you about jord We 320 00:17:18,480 --> 00:17:24,200 Speaker 1: do not show Dre. Yeah, I would not want to 321 00:17:24,240 --> 00:17:28,200 Speaker 1: face Jordan Love. I would rather face Jordan Love all 322 00:17:28,280 --> 00:17:31,240 Speaker 1: day long because look, I know that he didn't play 323 00:17:31,320 --> 00:17:33,200 Speaker 1: well on the one appearance he had last year, the 324 00:17:33,359 --> 00:17:36,560 Speaker 1: one start right, he did not play well, could have 325 00:17:36,600 --> 00:17:40,360 Speaker 1: been better. And had he played well, the market would 326 00:17:40,400 --> 00:17:41,920 Speaker 1: be a lot higher if he lit it up in 327 00:17:42,000 --> 00:17:45,919 Speaker 1: that game. Three more touchdowns and a great completion percentage 328 00:17:45,960 --> 00:17:48,440 Speaker 1: and rating and all that in a victory. That would 329 00:17:48,440 --> 00:17:51,040 Speaker 1: have looked a lot different in the trade market. But 330 00:17:51,680 --> 00:17:54,760 Speaker 1: all that is besides the point. I think that Love 331 00:17:55,280 --> 00:17:58,040 Speaker 1: having he's got a lot of upside, but he's got 332 00:17:58,119 --> 00:17:59,399 Speaker 1: to prove it. He's got to get there, and the 333 00:17:59,480 --> 00:18:01,239 Speaker 1: Colts would be a good team to help him get there. 334 00:18:01,520 --> 00:18:04,600 Speaker 1: But look, you saw what I saw. Wentz with all 335 00:18:04,680 --> 00:18:08,200 Speaker 1: his experience, made some plays for the Colts. Went was 336 00:18:08,280 --> 00:18:10,879 Speaker 1: at his best last year, was really really good, and 337 00:18:11,000 --> 00:18:13,440 Speaker 1: we saw it. I'm close and personal now. When he 338 00:18:13,520 --> 00:18:16,080 Speaker 1: played the Texans, I was longing for some of those 339 00:18:16,200 --> 00:18:19,280 Speaker 1: left handed interceptions at the goal line, but we didn't 340 00:18:19,320 --> 00:18:22,400 Speaker 1: get them. He played the good Carson Wentz brand of ball. 341 00:18:22,720 --> 00:18:25,800 Speaker 1: He's just inconsistent. I don't know if Love has that 342 00:18:26,040 --> 00:18:28,200 Speaker 1: level in him. He might, but he's got to prove 343 00:18:28,280 --> 00:18:30,160 Speaker 1: that he can get there. I know Garoppolo can win 344 00:18:30,359 --> 00:18:33,040 Speaker 1: right now in Indianapolis. I'm not saying win the super Bowl, 345 00:18:33,240 --> 00:18:36,320 Speaker 1: but win enough to make our lives miserable at least 346 00:18:36,320 --> 00:18:39,200 Speaker 1: from time to time. Oh, he so does not scare me, 347 00:18:42,440 --> 00:18:46,160 Speaker 1: scare me. In that offense, he could be pretty good. 348 00:18:46,960 --> 00:18:50,440 Speaker 1: Oh that's a good point. Then again, if that San 349 00:18:50,480 --> 00:18:56,399 Speaker 1: Francisco offense doesn't enhance a quarterback's progress and production with 350 00:18:56,560 --> 00:18:58,880 Speaker 1: the movement that it hasn't, if he can't be ultra 351 00:18:59,000 --> 00:19:05,560 Speaker 1: successful in the s just go offense. Yeah, what Armstead said. 352 00:19:05,800 --> 00:19:10,119 Speaker 1: You read what Armstead said, right, Jimmy Garoppolos saved the 353 00:19:10,200 --> 00:19:17,440 Speaker 1: forty nine ers. Oh he didn't. That's true. Look, I'm 354 00:19:17,480 --> 00:19:19,440 Speaker 1: not a Jimmy G guy. I'm not, but I just 355 00:19:19,600 --> 00:19:23,040 Speaker 1: think that I know he's not the future maybe anywhere, 356 00:19:23,200 --> 00:19:26,679 Speaker 1: but he's pretty decent when he gets it going. All right, 357 00:19:26,720 --> 00:19:30,280 Speaker 1: I'll give you that. I'll give you that. All Right, 358 00:19:30,440 --> 00:19:32,760 Speaker 1: we gotta do our Wednesday draft, and we gotta do 359 00:19:32,880 --> 00:19:38,240 Speaker 1: it relatively quickly. Here's the dramatic. Here's the draft. Okay, 360 00:19:38,560 --> 00:19:42,920 Speaker 1: it's called the underrateds. All right, it's called the UNDERRATEDS. 361 00:19:42,960 --> 00:19:51,480 Speaker 1: We have five categories. Five categories underrated Texan, underrated non 362 00:19:51,600 --> 00:19:57,320 Speaker 1: Texans NFL player, underrated professional athlete a different sport, underrated movie, 363 00:19:57,680 --> 00:20:03,000 Speaker 1: and underrated Miscellani. We're gonna go in order to make 364 00:20:03,000 --> 00:20:06,119 Speaker 1: it easy. Can I go? Can I go past? Or 365 00:20:06,200 --> 00:20:10,760 Speaker 1: does it have to be current Oh passed, oh Texan. Yeah, yeah, 366 00:20:10,840 --> 00:20:12,960 Speaker 1: you can go pass. That's fine. You can go pass 367 00:20:13,040 --> 00:20:14,840 Speaker 1: and go currents up to you. It's up to you. 368 00:20:15,480 --> 00:20:20,680 Speaker 1: You go first. Your most underrated Texan current past is 369 00:20:22,400 --> 00:20:26,200 Speaker 1: I'm gonna go Dominic Davis. I think Dominic Davis is underrated. 370 00:20:26,359 --> 00:20:29,320 Speaker 1: I think that when you look at the running backs 371 00:20:29,359 --> 00:20:32,280 Speaker 1: in the history of this franchise, I might put him 372 00:20:32,520 --> 00:20:36,320 Speaker 1: second behind Arian Foster. He had three years of about 373 00:20:36,359 --> 00:20:39,439 Speaker 1: a thousand yards a year. He was really good catching 374 00:20:39,480 --> 00:20:42,240 Speaker 1: the football. He was really a good running the football 375 00:20:42,600 --> 00:20:46,040 Speaker 1: on an offense that wasn't exactly built up front, with 376 00:20:46,160 --> 00:20:48,160 Speaker 1: the exception of our good buddy Chester Pitts and Fred 377 00:20:48,160 --> 00:20:50,360 Speaker 1: Weary from time to time and Steve McKinney. I'm sorry, guys, 378 00:20:50,520 --> 00:20:53,960 Speaker 1: but you know what I'm saying. Dominic to me was 379 00:20:54,040 --> 00:20:56,760 Speaker 1: a guy who was underrated. When you talk about the 380 00:20:56,880 --> 00:21:00,840 Speaker 1: history of really good players on this football team, I 381 00:21:01,000 --> 00:21:05,680 Speaker 1: like it my underrated Texan. I think it's common to 382 00:21:05,720 --> 00:21:07,560 Speaker 1: go with offensive linemate because they never give any credit. 383 00:21:07,840 --> 00:21:09,879 Speaker 1: So I'm not gonna do that. I'm gonna go with 384 00:21:10,040 --> 00:21:12,960 Speaker 1: defensive back Kareem Jackson. I know Kareem was a first 385 00:21:13,040 --> 00:21:16,800 Speaker 1: rounder and he didn't make the Pro Bowl, but there 386 00:21:16,880 --> 00:21:19,520 Speaker 1: were years in which Kareem was as good a defensive 387 00:21:19,520 --> 00:21:21,920 Speaker 1: player as anybody that was on the field, and he 388 00:21:22,000 --> 00:21:25,600 Speaker 1: had a tough twenty ten season. Jjoe came in and 389 00:21:25,760 --> 00:21:29,720 Speaker 1: Jjoe got a lot of credit, and rightfully so. But 390 00:21:29,720 --> 00:21:32,080 Speaker 1: I never felt like Kareem got that full credit for 391 00:21:32,200 --> 00:21:34,359 Speaker 1: being the player that he was. And I feel like 392 00:21:34,440 --> 00:21:37,480 Speaker 1: if mccreem had maybe on the safety earlier, then maybe 393 00:21:37,520 --> 00:21:40,040 Speaker 1: that would have come. Mcreem was Willow football player. I 394 00:21:40,040 --> 00:21:43,840 Speaker 1: just felt like he was totally incompletely underrated. Okay, we 395 00:21:43,920 --> 00:21:47,320 Speaker 1: stick back, so I go now the most underrated non 396 00:21:48,000 --> 00:21:53,840 Speaker 1: Texans NFL player. This is hard because the name that 397 00:21:54,200 --> 00:21:56,280 Speaker 1: pops up I think as an opportunity to go into 398 00:21:56,280 --> 00:21:58,520 Speaker 1: the Hall of Fame. But it felt like he was 399 00:21:58,600 --> 00:22:02,920 Speaker 1: overshadowed for a lot of his career. And some of 400 00:22:02,960 --> 00:22:04,879 Speaker 1: that was because he's playing with forty nine ers teams 401 00:22:04,920 --> 00:22:07,760 Speaker 1: that just weren't that weren't that good. And he finally 402 00:22:07,760 --> 00:22:09,719 Speaker 1: started getting some run when the forty nine ers did 403 00:22:09,800 --> 00:22:12,520 Speaker 1: become good, but then Navarro Bowman got all the credit. 404 00:22:12,560 --> 00:22:16,040 Speaker 1: I'm gonna say most underrated non Texas NFL players. Patrick 405 00:22:16,119 --> 00:22:20,040 Speaker 1: Willis got he got some acclaim, but I think for 406 00:22:20,200 --> 00:22:22,600 Speaker 1: as good a player as he was, he didn't get 407 00:22:22,640 --> 00:22:24,880 Speaker 1: the credit that he deserved. I'm going to Patrick Willows, 408 00:22:25,320 --> 00:22:29,879 Speaker 1: non Texas NFL player, underrated. Okay, I'm gonna go in 409 00:22:29,960 --> 00:22:33,040 Speaker 1: the way back machine here, and I'm gonna make it 410 00:22:33,160 --> 00:22:35,359 Speaker 1: purely subjective. But that's what this thing is. It's your 411 00:22:35,680 --> 00:22:38,800 Speaker 1: draft of underratings. I'm gonna go when you talk about 412 00:22:39,280 --> 00:22:42,280 Speaker 1: great wide receivers in the history of this game, Super 413 00:22:42,320 --> 00:22:47,960 Speaker 1: Bowl era, West Chandler of my air correel offense, I say, 414 00:22:48,000 --> 00:22:51,560 Speaker 1: their mind, because I owned them. West Chandler replaced the 415 00:22:51,640 --> 00:22:53,960 Speaker 1: great John Jefferson who went to Green Bay, as some 416 00:22:54,080 --> 00:22:57,200 Speaker 1: people might recall, some long in the tooth people, and 417 00:22:57,520 --> 00:23:00,560 Speaker 1: he was an excellent receiver for that Sandy Go Charger. 418 00:23:00,600 --> 00:23:02,920 Speaker 1: His offense. He had Charlie Joyn on the other side. 419 00:23:02,960 --> 00:23:06,280 Speaker 1: But look, he put up a bunch of great numbers. 420 00:23:06,680 --> 00:23:09,560 Speaker 1: And it wasn't like he was a household name. I mean, 421 00:23:09,640 --> 00:23:11,920 Speaker 1: it was a known around the National Football League back then. 422 00:23:12,040 --> 00:23:15,359 Speaker 1: But I'm gonna say West Chandler, it's very good, all right. 423 00:23:16,240 --> 00:23:17,800 Speaker 1: We gotta keep we gotta cut it short. It was 424 00:23:17,800 --> 00:23:20,280 Speaker 1: gonna be five rounds. We're gonna go to three. Okay, 425 00:23:20,720 --> 00:23:24,960 Speaker 1: We're gonna go to movie and it's your pick. Oh Man, 426 00:23:25,640 --> 00:23:29,040 Speaker 1: Wall you go first if you got the chamber between two. 427 00:23:29,240 --> 00:23:32,440 Speaker 1: I got one in the chamber for sure. Okay. I 428 00:23:32,600 --> 00:23:35,400 Speaker 1: never realized that I was such a big Sean Connery 429 00:23:35,440 --> 00:23:39,720 Speaker 1: fan until I saw a few movies with him. But 430 00:23:40,040 --> 00:23:43,919 Speaker 1: my favorite underrated movie that I think gets no credit 431 00:23:44,240 --> 00:23:45,959 Speaker 1: for being as good as it was, and it's one 432 00:23:45,960 --> 00:23:48,280 Speaker 1: of my favorites of all time. I think it's completely underrated. 433 00:23:48,440 --> 00:23:53,680 Speaker 1: It's called Finding Forrester with Sean Connery and I'm trying 434 00:23:53,680 --> 00:23:56,560 Speaker 1: to remember his name. I want to say Rob Brown, 435 00:23:56,600 --> 00:23:58,560 Speaker 1: but I don't think that's him. Either way, it's a 436 00:23:58,680 --> 00:24:02,600 Speaker 1: tremendous movie. I watched that movie and I laugh, I cry. 437 00:24:02,800 --> 00:24:07,320 Speaker 1: It's fantastic. Finding Forrester is my most underrated movie. Is 438 00:24:07,359 --> 00:24:11,400 Speaker 1: Sean Connery, who was absolutely fantastic in that movie. Um 439 00:24:11,520 --> 00:24:18,520 Speaker 1: as a recluse, former outstanding Nobel Piece writing writer. I'm 440 00:24:18,560 --> 00:24:21,720 Speaker 1: going Finding Forrester is my underrated movie. H It is 441 00:24:21,880 --> 00:24:25,560 Speaker 1: Rob Brown, by the way, and yeah, great movie and Connery, 442 00:24:25,880 --> 00:24:29,280 Speaker 1: the old Connery is so full of charisma. He should 443 00:24:29,280 --> 00:24:32,040 Speaker 1: have played James Bond as old Connery, just have old 444 00:24:32,160 --> 00:24:35,200 Speaker 1: James Bond who cares. Just do it. You can't do 445 00:24:35,320 --> 00:24:38,480 Speaker 1: that anymore. All right, my underrated movie, Look, I've got 446 00:24:38,600 --> 00:24:42,040 Speaker 1: so many, Johnny, I'm gonna settle on this. I'm gonna 447 00:24:42,200 --> 00:24:44,479 Speaker 1: I'm gonna kind of read to find the category here 448 00:24:45,000 --> 00:24:49,280 Speaker 1: chick flick because guys too often dismiss them. But The 449 00:24:49,480 --> 00:24:53,959 Speaker 1: Devil Wears Prada is a fool stick movie for anybody 450 00:24:54,320 --> 00:24:59,119 Speaker 1: with Anne Hathaway, Meryl Streep, Stanley Tucci, numerous stars. Excellent film. 451 00:24:59,240 --> 00:25:01,560 Speaker 1: I think it's are rated for a guy movie. This 452 00:25:01,680 --> 00:25:04,760 Speaker 1: is a guy station basically. I mean, I'm kind of stereotyping, 453 00:25:04,840 --> 00:25:06,960 Speaker 1: but it sort of is, you know, the majority whatever. 454 00:25:07,640 --> 00:25:09,399 Speaker 1: I know, there are many women listening right now. We 455 00:25:09,520 --> 00:25:12,600 Speaker 1: love you so and you know, The Devilware's product is 456 00:25:12,800 --> 00:25:15,680 Speaker 1: a fantastic movie. And I think underrated because too many 457 00:25:15,720 --> 00:25:17,920 Speaker 1: guys dismiss it because oh it's a chick list. Hey, no, 458 00:25:18,320 --> 00:25:21,560 Speaker 1: watch it. It's good. It's a great movie. Not underrated 459 00:25:22,320 --> 00:25:24,800 Speaker 1: is Ikey Aquana from Menzi State. Let's learn more about 460 00:25:24,920 --> 00:25:31,760 Speaker 1: him next on Texans All Access Access Access Access. Welcome 461 00:25:31,760 --> 00:25:34,960 Speaker 1: back this Wednesday edition of Texans All Access. I'm your host, 462 00:25:35,080 --> 00:25:40,280 Speaker 1: John Harris and Wednesdays, well, just like Tuesday's have been crazy. 463 00:25:40,400 --> 00:25:42,840 Speaker 1: Yesterday was Aaron Rodgers staying with Green Bay, it was 464 00:25:42,880 --> 00:25:46,240 Speaker 1: Russell Wilson being traded to Denver. Today it's Carson Wentz 465 00:25:46,800 --> 00:25:52,040 Speaker 1: being traded to the Washington Commanders. Crazy times, and it 466 00:25:52,160 --> 00:25:55,240 Speaker 1: might get even crazier in this town on Friday. But well, 467 00:25:55,440 --> 00:25:59,280 Speaker 1: we'll see what happens from a legal standpoint on Friday. 468 00:26:00,480 --> 00:26:04,280 Speaker 1: What is not wild is the potential of taking an 469 00:26:04,320 --> 00:26:10,199 Speaker 1: offensive tackle slash offensive guard, offensive lineman pancake king at 470 00:26:10,320 --> 00:26:13,000 Speaker 1: number three NFL Draft, and that would be Ikey Aquanta 471 00:26:13,040 --> 00:26:15,879 Speaker 1: from NC State. Let's learn more about the big fella 472 00:26:16,040 --> 00:26:19,040 Speaker 1: dpcit who set down with David Thompson, who's covered Equanu 473 00:26:19,119 --> 00:26:22,080 Speaker 1: throughout his whole career in Raleigh. Today, we're talking about 474 00:26:22,160 --> 00:26:26,240 Speaker 1: NC State offensive tackle Ikey Aquanu with Beat writer David Thompson. 475 00:26:26,400 --> 00:26:29,600 Speaker 1: David covers NC State sports for USA Today. He's also 476 00:26:29,680 --> 00:26:33,840 Speaker 1: the host of the Belief in NC State podcast. David, 477 00:26:33,960 --> 00:26:36,080 Speaker 1: welcome in. Thank you so much for joining us. I'm 478 00:26:36,119 --> 00:26:39,480 Speaker 1: super excited about this next prospect. Well, thanks for letting 479 00:26:39,520 --> 00:26:41,880 Speaker 1: me talk about him a little bit. I'm very excited 480 00:26:42,000 --> 00:26:45,080 Speaker 1: for his trajectory, and it's been really fun to kind 481 00:26:45,119 --> 00:26:49,320 Speaker 1: of see the world get introduced to Ian. Yeah, Ikey. 482 00:26:49,400 --> 00:26:51,560 Speaker 1: We call him Ikey, but his name is actually I 483 00:26:51,840 --> 00:26:54,520 Speaker 1: k e M. And I want you to set the 484 00:26:54,560 --> 00:26:56,120 Speaker 1: record streight. I feel like a lot of people don't 485 00:26:56,160 --> 00:26:58,080 Speaker 1: call him by his first name because they don't know 486 00:26:58,119 --> 00:27:00,320 Speaker 1: how to properly pronounce it. In se who has a 487 00:27:00,359 --> 00:27:02,800 Speaker 1: hard to pronounce name, I feel like we should just 488 00:27:02,840 --> 00:27:05,000 Speaker 1: put it out there. Yeah, yeah, so it's just a kem. 489 00:27:05,200 --> 00:27:08,040 Speaker 1: So okay, it's and I think you put it. You 490 00:27:08,080 --> 00:27:09,720 Speaker 1: put it well earlier when it was It's kind of 491 00:27:09,760 --> 00:27:14,520 Speaker 1: like Hakim, but without the age Apando akim Ikwano known 492 00:27:14,640 --> 00:27:16,920 Speaker 1: as Ikey. One of the first things I read about 493 00:27:16,920 --> 00:27:19,639 Speaker 1: Ikey was that he's the most feared lineman in the 494 00:27:19,760 --> 00:27:22,959 Speaker 1: acc according to some writers. So what are the strengths 495 00:27:23,000 --> 00:27:24,640 Speaker 1: of his game and what did he do to really 496 00:27:24,720 --> 00:27:27,760 Speaker 1: earn that moniker? You know, it's always funny to hear 497 00:27:27,840 --> 00:27:30,119 Speaker 1: that because we you know, I've talked to him a 498 00:27:30,160 --> 00:27:33,440 Speaker 1: lot off the field, and he's just like the gentlest, sweetest, 499 00:27:33,840 --> 00:27:36,840 Speaker 1: funny guy. You know, likes to prank his roommates. But 500 00:27:36,960 --> 00:27:38,240 Speaker 1: when he gets on the field, and I think you 501 00:27:38,320 --> 00:27:40,320 Speaker 1: see this with the top prospects, the best guys in 502 00:27:40,359 --> 00:27:43,040 Speaker 1: the league. Like it's a it's a switch that flips right, 503 00:27:43,320 --> 00:27:46,119 Speaker 1: and he just kind of likes to, I don't I 504 00:27:46,119 --> 00:27:47,720 Speaker 1: don't want to say hurt people, but he likes to 505 00:27:47,760 --> 00:27:50,040 Speaker 1: put people on the ground. He's His big thing at 506 00:27:50,119 --> 00:27:54,320 Speaker 1: NCCTATE was pancakes, and after every pancake, the coaching staff 507 00:27:54,320 --> 00:27:56,480 Speaker 1: would give him a bottle of syrup. And I think 508 00:27:56,520 --> 00:27:59,320 Speaker 1: he left with one hundred twenty. I mean it was 509 00:27:59,359 --> 00:28:01,400 Speaker 1: a ridiculous amount of syrup that and we always talked 510 00:28:01,400 --> 00:28:02,399 Speaker 1: about It's like, what are you going to do with 511 00:28:02,440 --> 00:28:05,120 Speaker 1: all that syrup? He's like, I can't eat that many pancakes. 512 00:28:05,160 --> 00:28:08,119 Speaker 1: There's nothing. I think he was donating syrup bottles to people, 513 00:28:08,240 --> 00:28:10,879 Speaker 1: and you know, maybe you want to get like stock 514 00:28:10,960 --> 00:28:14,320 Speaker 1: and Antemimah's or whatever, you know, whatever the syrup companies 515 00:28:14,359 --> 00:28:17,119 Speaker 1: are now. But I think, and you saw it in 516 00:28:17,160 --> 00:28:20,040 Speaker 1: the combine, just how quick he is and how strong 517 00:28:20,160 --> 00:28:22,520 Speaker 1: he is, and just that skill set that there's the 518 00:28:22,600 --> 00:28:25,359 Speaker 1: intangibles right, the size, the stuff that you can't coach. 519 00:28:25,880 --> 00:28:28,720 Speaker 1: But I think his mental fortitude as well of his 520 00:28:29,040 --> 00:28:31,119 Speaker 1: as well of his quickness and strength is just going 521 00:28:31,160 --> 00:28:34,480 Speaker 1: to make him, you know, one of those potential ten 522 00:28:34,560 --> 00:28:37,919 Speaker 1: to twelve year Pro Bowl guys that are really kind 523 00:28:37,960 --> 00:28:40,640 Speaker 1: of a foundation of an offensive line and potentially a 524 00:28:40,720 --> 00:28:42,720 Speaker 1: team like like the Texans that are really trying to 525 00:28:42,800 --> 00:28:45,080 Speaker 1: rebuild from the ground up. Yeah, the Texans are picking 526 00:28:45,160 --> 00:28:47,760 Speaker 1: number three overall and he's a really interesting prospect. A 527 00:28:47,800 --> 00:28:50,400 Speaker 1: lot of mock drafts have him going to the Texans 528 00:28:50,400 --> 00:28:52,080 Speaker 1: if he even makes it to the number three pick, 529 00:28:52,160 --> 00:28:55,200 Speaker 1: because his showing up a combine was so strong. I mean, 530 00:28:55,360 --> 00:28:58,480 Speaker 1: his speed, his footwork. I mean, for a man that 531 00:28:58,680 --> 00:29:00,760 Speaker 1: big to move as quickly as he did, it was 532 00:29:01,000 --> 00:29:03,000 Speaker 1: it was really impressive and a lot of people think 533 00:29:03,080 --> 00:29:05,320 Speaker 1: that he might have made the case to be the 534 00:29:05,440 --> 00:29:08,760 Speaker 1: number one overall pick in the draft with his combined performance. 535 00:29:08,920 --> 00:29:11,000 Speaker 1: How much do you think that did help his draft 536 00:29:11,040 --> 00:29:14,640 Speaker 1: stock with teams seeing him in person, talking to him, 537 00:29:14,680 --> 00:29:17,960 Speaker 1: going through the interviews at the combine, I mean absolutely 538 00:29:18,000 --> 00:29:20,920 Speaker 1: if you see someone like that. I mean, for these 539 00:29:21,040 --> 00:29:23,840 Speaker 1: teams that are are normally in the first you know, 540 00:29:23,920 --> 00:29:26,000 Speaker 1: one through tin slot, they're either looking for a quarterback, 541 00:29:26,040 --> 00:29:28,600 Speaker 1: they're looking for someone to protect their quarterback, and he's 542 00:29:28,640 --> 00:29:30,400 Speaker 1: that guy. He was that guy at nc staid. I 543 00:29:30,440 --> 00:29:32,640 Speaker 1: think in his four years. I think he allowed like 544 00:29:32,760 --> 00:29:35,440 Speaker 1: one sack his entire career. So that's that's the guy 545 00:29:35,520 --> 00:29:39,920 Speaker 1: you want protecting your quarterbacks week side, and with you know, 546 00:29:40,120 --> 00:29:43,920 Speaker 1: the speed and strength that with opposing defensive ends and 547 00:29:44,040 --> 00:29:46,239 Speaker 1: guys coming around the corner, like, you want someone who 548 00:29:46,280 --> 00:29:48,800 Speaker 1: can match that. And then I think you also want 549 00:29:48,840 --> 00:29:51,560 Speaker 1: someone who on the line can is smart enough to 550 00:29:51,680 --> 00:29:55,240 Speaker 1: understand the calls, the reads and be able to you know, 551 00:29:55,480 --> 00:29:58,880 Speaker 1: change quickly to be able to audible. And he just 552 00:29:59,080 --> 00:30:02,880 Speaker 1: he has those mental and physical strengths that I think 553 00:30:03,080 --> 00:30:05,000 Speaker 1: I would think people are looking for. No one's asking 554 00:30:05,040 --> 00:30:06,840 Speaker 1: my opinion, you're the first one to act, actually ask 555 00:30:07,120 --> 00:30:08,440 Speaker 1: no one saying, hey, who are we going to spend 556 00:30:08,440 --> 00:30:10,360 Speaker 1: a million dollars on? Let's talk to David Thompson. But 557 00:30:11,240 --> 00:30:13,160 Speaker 1: from what I've seen and what I watched the combine, 558 00:30:13,160 --> 00:30:16,120 Speaker 1: I mean, he was definitely he stood out. Yeah, you 559 00:30:16,200 --> 00:30:20,520 Speaker 1: mentioned the physical and the mental strength, and his family 560 00:30:20,600 --> 00:30:22,920 Speaker 1: background is so intriguing because he comes from a long 561 00:30:23,000 --> 00:30:26,440 Speaker 1: line of athletes and his family and then he also 562 00:30:26,480 --> 00:30:28,520 Speaker 1: got into a couple of IVY League schools like Harvard 563 00:30:28,560 --> 00:30:31,080 Speaker 1: and Yale. So what about that combination, I mean, how 564 00:30:31,120 --> 00:30:33,480 Speaker 1: did you really see that play out just in his persona, 565 00:30:34,040 --> 00:30:36,000 Speaker 1: in the way he attacks the game and the way 566 00:30:36,080 --> 00:30:38,360 Speaker 1: he played on the field. Well, it's funny because you 567 00:30:38,560 --> 00:30:43,120 Speaker 1: think in a family, when you're the potential number one 568 00:30:43,200 --> 00:30:45,680 Speaker 1: draft pick, you're like the most exciting, you know, that's 569 00:30:45,760 --> 00:30:48,280 Speaker 1: all they talk about. They're like, you know, we got doctors. 570 00:30:48,480 --> 00:30:52,560 Speaker 1: We've got another son who is you know, does a 571 00:30:52,640 --> 00:30:55,520 Speaker 1: lot of like animation for some you know, big time program. 572 00:30:55,680 --> 00:30:58,520 Speaker 1: Like everyone in that family is really impressive. So they're like, oh, 573 00:30:58,640 --> 00:31:00,880 Speaker 1: you know, you're like third in line. That's you play football. 574 00:31:00,880 --> 00:31:03,600 Speaker 1: That's that's exciting. And for his you know, his dad 575 00:31:03,640 --> 00:31:05,960 Speaker 1: and his mom who I talked to for a couple 576 00:31:05,960 --> 00:31:09,320 Speaker 1: of stories, you know, football was was secondary. They're like, 577 00:31:09,400 --> 00:31:12,040 Speaker 1: that's really great, but education was the most important thing. 578 00:31:12,600 --> 00:31:14,520 Speaker 1: You know. He's one of those like three point eight 579 00:31:14,600 --> 00:31:17,520 Speaker 1: four point o GPA kind of guys. And I just 580 00:31:17,640 --> 00:31:20,640 Speaker 1: think it's we see it all the time. It's really 581 00:31:20,680 --> 00:31:23,160 Speaker 1: important to not only have the physical attributes, but to 582 00:31:23,400 --> 00:31:25,080 Speaker 1: kind of have you know, the in between the years 583 00:31:25,200 --> 00:31:27,520 Speaker 1: kind of thing. And and he's just got a really 584 00:31:27,600 --> 00:31:31,600 Speaker 1: great supportive family. And obviously the money is very important 585 00:31:31,600 --> 00:31:34,160 Speaker 1: and very exciting, but it's I don't think it's what 586 00:31:34,360 --> 00:31:36,800 Speaker 1: drives him. Yeah, I just think all around, he's just 587 00:31:36,880 --> 00:31:40,240 Speaker 1: a really insightful, interesting young man. I talked to a 588 00:31:40,320 --> 00:31:43,160 Speaker 1: lot of kids who my background I used to cover 589 00:31:43,280 --> 00:31:45,720 Speaker 1: high school sports, and I you know, I'm talking with 590 00:31:45,880 --> 00:31:48,640 Speaker 1: a lot of college athletes. Sometimes there's not a lot 591 00:31:48,680 --> 00:31:51,640 Speaker 1: of great perspectives from eighteen to twenty one year olds. 592 00:31:51,680 --> 00:31:53,600 Speaker 1: You know, they haven't experienced a whole lot of life. 593 00:31:53,680 --> 00:31:57,400 Speaker 1: And he really already is talking about the things outside 594 00:31:57,400 --> 00:31:59,600 Speaker 1: of football that interests him, the things that he likes. 595 00:31:59,720 --> 00:32:01,040 Speaker 1: You know, it's just a well rounded guy, and I 596 00:32:01,120 --> 00:32:04,680 Speaker 1: think you need someone who has more than just football. Yeah, 597 00:32:04,720 --> 00:32:07,240 Speaker 1: I mean, speaking of all rounded, I thought his media 598 00:32:07,240 --> 00:32:11,000 Speaker 1: availability if the combine was just one of the most entertaining, 599 00:32:11,080 --> 00:32:14,680 Speaker 1: and he really went viral for just talking about, you know, 600 00:32:14,880 --> 00:32:17,080 Speaker 1: his love of musical theater. I feel like it really 601 00:32:17,160 --> 00:32:19,360 Speaker 1: gave everyone a sense of his personality and how much 602 00:32:19,400 --> 00:32:22,480 Speaker 1: funny is I mean, he rattled off all the musicals 603 00:32:22,600 --> 00:32:24,400 Speaker 1: that he'd been in, like in middle school, like one 604 00:32:24,480 --> 00:32:28,080 Speaker 1: hundred one Dalmatians and Jungle Book. I mean, you got 605 00:32:28,120 --> 00:32:30,960 Speaker 1: a chance to cover him and see that side of 606 00:32:31,000 --> 00:32:34,480 Speaker 1: his personality. What else have you learned about him personally speaking, 607 00:32:34,520 --> 00:32:36,440 Speaker 1: and your time covering him. I mean, you know, that 608 00:32:36,560 --> 00:32:38,240 Speaker 1: was one of the things where when you're like the 609 00:32:38,320 --> 00:32:40,960 Speaker 1: local beat writer and you see that come out, you're like, hey, 610 00:32:41,040 --> 00:32:43,760 Speaker 1: I wrote that story first, excuse me, where's my credit? 611 00:32:43,800 --> 00:32:46,600 Speaker 1: I knew you guys knew to ask that, already knew that. Yeah, 612 00:32:47,400 --> 00:32:49,000 Speaker 1: but I think you know that that was one of 613 00:32:49,040 --> 00:32:51,200 Speaker 1: the great things. It's like, yeah, to imagine that kid, 614 00:32:51,480 --> 00:32:54,240 Speaker 1: you know, very large fifth grader, you know, being the 615 00:32:54,320 --> 00:32:57,360 Speaker 1: jungle Book the Aristocrats. I think one of the great 616 00:32:57,400 --> 00:32:59,480 Speaker 1: things that me and him had in common in high 617 00:32:59,520 --> 00:33:04,240 Speaker 1: school was that we both sold cutco knives. I lasted 618 00:33:04,240 --> 00:33:06,440 Speaker 1: about a month. He was their top salesman for like 619 00:33:06,520 --> 00:33:09,560 Speaker 1: three summers in a row. Tremendous. Yeah, So he's that 620 00:33:09,720 --> 00:33:12,440 Speaker 1: kind of guy. And he also, you know, he's made 621 00:33:12,480 --> 00:33:15,120 Speaker 1: a lot of money with like bitcoin and things like that, 622 00:33:15,360 --> 00:33:18,520 Speaker 1: Like he's an investor. He's smart, and I think I 623 00:33:18,600 --> 00:33:22,040 Speaker 1: believe that's Yeah, he studies been business administration, so he's 624 00:33:22,040 --> 00:33:24,760 Speaker 1: already like that kid is gonna whatever kind of money 625 00:33:24,800 --> 00:33:27,520 Speaker 1: he gets, he's gonna figure out how to make more 626 00:33:27,720 --> 00:33:29,680 Speaker 1: that money will make money. And then also there's like 627 00:33:29,760 --> 00:33:32,160 Speaker 1: things that he's like a big time prankster, and he'd 628 00:33:32,200 --> 00:33:34,520 Speaker 1: like to prank his room, his roommates and stuff like that, 629 00:33:34,720 --> 00:33:36,880 Speaker 1: and all the guys around him that I talked to 630 00:33:37,320 --> 00:33:39,320 Speaker 1: would just say, like, you know, it's just a lot 631 00:33:39,360 --> 00:33:41,400 Speaker 1: of laughter, a lot of fun, and just kind of 632 00:33:41,560 --> 00:33:44,240 Speaker 1: you know, like he didn't big time anyone. He was 633 00:33:44,320 --> 00:33:47,480 Speaker 1: just a kid who really enjoyed the experience and loved 634 00:33:47,520 --> 00:33:49,520 Speaker 1: his team, and they loved them back, and of course 635 00:33:49,560 --> 00:33:51,719 Speaker 1: his quarterback loved them because you know, he stayed off 636 00:33:51,760 --> 00:33:53,960 Speaker 1: the ground because of them. All right. Well, speaking of 637 00:33:54,080 --> 00:33:56,680 Speaker 1: his football skills, he started at left tackle for North 638 00:33:56,720 --> 00:33:59,640 Speaker 1: Carolina State as a true freshman in twenty nineteen yearned 639 00:33:59,680 --> 00:34:02,440 Speaker 1: Freshmen All American honors of what do you remember most 640 00:34:02,480 --> 00:34:05,000 Speaker 1: about him as a freshman and at what point did 641 00:34:05,040 --> 00:34:07,080 Speaker 1: you think, Hey, this guy could be the number one 642 00:34:07,160 --> 00:34:09,320 Speaker 1: overall pick in the draft. So I've been covering in 643 00:34:09,400 --> 00:34:11,759 Speaker 1: C State now for two years, so I don't know, 644 00:34:12,160 --> 00:34:14,400 Speaker 1: to be honest, I was. I think I was not 645 00:34:14,480 --> 00:34:16,239 Speaker 1: covering him as a freshman. I was. I just so 646 00:34:16,320 --> 00:34:18,279 Speaker 1: I did not see him as as a freshman, but 647 00:34:18,400 --> 00:34:21,800 Speaker 1: I saw him as in his last two years. And 648 00:34:22,800 --> 00:34:26,560 Speaker 1: I think it was coming into this season where there 649 00:34:26,680 --> 00:34:29,560 Speaker 1: was kind of the athletic did a big profile on him, 650 00:34:29,560 --> 00:34:32,960 Speaker 1: and that's where this most feared lineman in the ACC 651 00:34:33,160 --> 00:34:34,800 Speaker 1: sort of came out. And then it was kind of like, Okay, 652 00:34:34,840 --> 00:34:39,359 Speaker 1: I's on this guy and he's just really been since 653 00:34:39,440 --> 00:34:43,680 Speaker 1: he's been recruited, has been this sort of development diamond. 654 00:34:43,840 --> 00:34:46,320 Speaker 1: You know, it's like he had it there, but the 655 00:34:46,400 --> 00:34:48,680 Speaker 1: amount of work he puts into his game really started 656 00:34:48,719 --> 00:34:52,000 Speaker 1: showing off, and then his physical attributes caught up with that, 657 00:34:52,520 --> 00:34:54,399 Speaker 1: and so I think it was coming into this season 658 00:34:54,480 --> 00:34:57,520 Speaker 1: it was like this, this is a guy, and then 659 00:34:57,600 --> 00:34:59,080 Speaker 1: as the season just wore on, it was like he 660 00:34:59,239 --> 00:35:02,160 Speaker 1: is app resolutely. He just physically you'd see him on 661 00:35:02,200 --> 00:35:04,120 Speaker 1: the line, he's just he's you know, we're up in 662 00:35:04,160 --> 00:35:06,520 Speaker 1: the press box. He's incredibly easy to spot because he's 663 00:35:06,560 --> 00:35:08,520 Speaker 1: so big. He just he looks like an NFL guy 664 00:35:08,600 --> 00:35:12,279 Speaker 1: playing with college guys. And then I think, now when 665 00:35:12,400 --> 00:35:15,359 Speaker 1: you've put him on the combine with everyone else who 666 00:35:15,480 --> 00:35:17,800 Speaker 1: has that same goal of the same dream, the same attributes, 667 00:35:17,800 --> 00:35:20,719 Speaker 1: and he shines the way he does, You're like, there's 668 00:35:20,760 --> 00:35:22,960 Speaker 1: no question anymore. He's a top five guy in this 669 00:35:23,080 --> 00:35:25,920 Speaker 1: draft and potentially, you know, a Hall of Fame player. 670 00:35:26,880 --> 00:35:29,200 Speaker 1: He also played two hundred snaps at left guard, So 671 00:35:29,960 --> 00:35:32,239 Speaker 1: I mean is that something Is there something there that 672 00:35:32,719 --> 00:35:35,200 Speaker 1: teams might start him at the guard spot. What did 673 00:35:35,239 --> 00:35:36,600 Speaker 1: you think about him? Did you would you get a 674 00:35:36,680 --> 00:35:38,880 Speaker 1: chance to see him play guard versus tackle or is 675 00:35:38,920 --> 00:35:40,920 Speaker 1: it just something that's a blip on the radar? Well, 676 00:35:40,960 --> 00:35:43,640 Speaker 1: I think when you have that much talent and NC stayed, 677 00:35:43,719 --> 00:35:45,920 Speaker 1: especially on their their line had a lot of injuries 678 00:35:46,080 --> 00:35:47,600 Speaker 1: and so they kind of just had to, you know, 679 00:35:47,800 --> 00:35:50,440 Speaker 1: put him where he needed to be. And because of 680 00:35:50,560 --> 00:35:53,279 Speaker 1: his skills, he can do that. But he'll be you know, 681 00:35:53,680 --> 00:35:55,920 Speaker 1: they're going to be looking for him as a left tackle, 682 00:35:56,040 --> 00:35:58,400 Speaker 1: but it's one of those things where injuries happen and 683 00:35:58,880 --> 00:36:01,880 Speaker 1: if you can be flexible and you can move around 684 00:36:01,960 --> 00:36:04,000 Speaker 1: on that line, then that just makes you even more 685 00:36:04,000 --> 00:36:06,520 Speaker 1: of a commodity. All Right. I know it's kind of 686 00:36:06,560 --> 00:36:09,320 Speaker 1: hard with offensive linemen to gauge this, but do you 687 00:36:09,440 --> 00:36:13,279 Speaker 1: have a most memorable matchup or game of a keys 688 00:36:13,320 --> 00:36:15,399 Speaker 1: that you've covered that really stands out in your mind? 689 00:36:15,800 --> 00:36:18,439 Speaker 1: I think just thinking of the teams that they played, 690 00:36:18,480 --> 00:36:21,920 Speaker 1: the way that he played against Clemson, I mean, the 691 00:36:22,239 --> 00:36:24,920 Speaker 1: thing is is that he's one of those guys that 692 00:36:25,280 --> 00:36:27,800 Speaker 1: you don't you almost don't have to account for. You're like, Okay, 693 00:36:27,880 --> 00:36:30,320 Speaker 1: Ikey's going to take care of this side. The problem 694 00:36:30,440 --> 00:36:32,120 Speaker 1: is going to be over here, so you almost don't 695 00:36:32,120 --> 00:36:34,520 Speaker 1: focus on it because you're like, we're not worried about that, 696 00:36:34,719 --> 00:36:37,120 Speaker 1: you know, and if anything, like we know that they're 697 00:36:37,120 --> 00:36:39,759 Speaker 1: going to run around him a lot, so you know, 698 00:36:39,840 --> 00:36:41,680 Speaker 1: that would be a lot of things that's something to 699 00:36:41,800 --> 00:36:44,520 Speaker 1: kind of look at. But with NC State this year, 700 00:36:44,600 --> 00:36:47,000 Speaker 1: they really didn't run the ball as much as we expected, 701 00:36:47,080 --> 00:36:49,080 Speaker 1: so a lot of what he was having to do 702 00:36:49,280 --> 00:36:51,560 Speaker 1: was back up and protect the quarterback. And for the 703 00:36:51,600 --> 00:36:53,919 Speaker 1: amount of times that they passed the ball that Devin 704 00:36:54,040 --> 00:36:56,960 Speaker 1: Leary didn't hit the ground on his side was very impressive. 705 00:36:57,400 --> 00:36:59,360 Speaker 1: It seems like everything's sort of come very easy to 706 00:36:59,480 --> 00:37:02,040 Speaker 1: him and very naturally to him. But is there some 707 00:37:02,239 --> 00:37:05,160 Speaker 1: instance of adversity that he's gone through that you saw 708 00:37:05,239 --> 00:37:07,440 Speaker 1: him come out at the other end? Well? Sure, I 709 00:37:07,480 --> 00:37:09,840 Speaker 1: mean in high school it was his it was his 710 00:37:10,000 --> 00:37:12,640 Speaker 1: twin brother, Osita, who was who was the big man 711 00:37:12,760 --> 00:37:15,239 Speaker 1: on campus. You know, it was a four star linebacker 712 00:37:15,840 --> 00:37:18,000 Speaker 1: and was really kind of the reason Ikey ended up 713 00:37:18,040 --> 00:37:20,279 Speaker 1: getting looks because everyone was coming to see his brother, 714 00:37:20,760 --> 00:37:22,560 Speaker 1: and his brother ended up going to Notre Dame. Has 715 00:37:22,680 --> 00:37:25,520 Speaker 1: you know, has done Okay has obviously not shying the 716 00:37:25,600 --> 00:37:28,239 Speaker 1: way that his brother did. But I think I think 717 00:37:28,320 --> 00:37:32,799 Speaker 1: that adversity of being overlooked, of of kind of being like, oh, 718 00:37:32,840 --> 00:37:36,319 Speaker 1: you're the other brother really stuck with him really motivated him. 719 00:37:36,360 --> 00:37:38,480 Speaker 1: And I was actually I was talking to our in 720 00:37:38,880 --> 00:37:43,400 Speaker 1: our North Carolina recruiting guy, and he was telling me 721 00:37:43,560 --> 00:37:46,080 Speaker 1: that I think for Dave Dorn this is going to 722 00:37:46,160 --> 00:37:50,799 Speaker 1: be their third first round pick who was a three 723 00:37:50,880 --> 00:37:54,200 Speaker 1: star coming out of college. Are coming into coming into 724 00:37:54,400 --> 00:37:56,560 Speaker 1: into college out of high school. So NC State has 725 00:37:56,560 --> 00:37:58,120 Speaker 1: done a really good job of kind of finding these 726 00:37:58,200 --> 00:37:59,879 Speaker 1: diamond and the roughs, these guys who are like, Okay, 727 00:37:59,880 --> 00:38:02,760 Speaker 1: I see the potential, and I think Dave Doran deserves 728 00:38:02,760 --> 00:38:04,680 Speaker 1: a lot of credit. But Ikey is just one of 729 00:38:04,719 --> 00:38:07,040 Speaker 1: those guys who became very determined at a young age 730 00:38:07,160 --> 00:38:09,000 Speaker 1: and knew what the goal was, knew what the dream was, 731 00:38:09,120 --> 00:38:12,440 Speaker 1: and luckily his physical attributes were able to sort of 732 00:38:12,920 --> 00:38:15,840 Speaker 1: link up with that. All right, Well, speaking of potential, 733 00:38:15,920 --> 00:38:18,120 Speaker 1: now you've got me intrigued about NC state prospects. What 734 00:38:18,239 --> 00:38:22,040 Speaker 1: about further on in the draft. Let's say you get 735 00:38:22,080 --> 00:38:24,200 Speaker 1: passed at round one, it's not icky. Are there any 736 00:38:24,239 --> 00:38:27,320 Speaker 1: other NC State prospects that maybe Texans fans should have 737 00:38:27,360 --> 00:38:29,319 Speaker 1: their eyes out for? So I know you guys are 738 00:38:29,360 --> 00:38:32,160 Speaker 1: looking for a running back, right, we're looking for everything. Ok, 739 00:38:32,200 --> 00:38:37,640 Speaker 1: you're looking for everything. Yeah. I think Zonovan Bam Knight, 740 00:38:37,800 --> 00:38:40,719 Speaker 1: who was sort of the one two puncher running back 741 00:38:41,200 --> 00:38:44,160 Speaker 1: for NC State. I think what's going to get him 742 00:38:44,200 --> 00:38:46,480 Speaker 1: in the door is he's a great kickoff returner, had 743 00:38:46,520 --> 00:38:51,759 Speaker 1: two returns for touchdowns, super speedy, great vision, and we 744 00:38:51,840 --> 00:38:54,239 Speaker 1: actually talked to him a lot about, you know, him 745 00:38:54,320 --> 00:38:56,320 Speaker 1: developing that skill and he said, you know, I know 746 00:38:56,480 --> 00:38:58,960 Speaker 1: I'm going to need something else than just being a 747 00:38:59,120 --> 00:39:01,120 Speaker 1: running back. And I think that's going to get him 748 00:39:01,120 --> 00:39:02,920 Speaker 1: in the door. You know, it could be like a 749 00:39:03,080 --> 00:39:06,719 Speaker 1: six seventh round kind of thing, but he'll be on 750 00:39:06,800 --> 00:39:08,879 Speaker 1: special teams. I think they're going to see his talent, 751 00:39:09,040 --> 00:39:13,000 Speaker 1: his work ethic, and really his speed and that'll get 752 00:39:13,080 --> 00:39:15,040 Speaker 1: him maybe as like a third down back to begin with. 753 00:39:15,200 --> 00:39:17,400 Speaker 1: But he's he's a prospect. He's someone who could kind 754 00:39:17,440 --> 00:39:20,239 Speaker 1: of work his way into lineups and have some more 755 00:39:20,280 --> 00:39:22,920 Speaker 1: time and I think actually end up having a pretty 756 00:39:22,960 --> 00:39:26,520 Speaker 1: decent little NFL career. Well, that's exciting to hear. And 757 00:39:26,719 --> 00:39:29,120 Speaker 1: I love the nickname Bam, especially for a running back. 758 00:39:29,200 --> 00:39:32,279 Speaker 1: That's a solid name. It comes from when he was 759 00:39:32,560 --> 00:39:35,160 Speaker 1: he was a kid. He was obsessed with that thing 760 00:39:35,320 --> 00:39:37,600 Speaker 1: was the flintstones and he used to bam bam walk 761 00:39:37,640 --> 00:39:40,000 Speaker 1: around and bam bam things and so and that's his 762 00:39:40,120 --> 00:39:41,840 Speaker 1: uncle was like, man, you just like bam bam and 763 00:39:41,920 --> 00:39:43,719 Speaker 1: then so he shortened it to bam because bam bam 764 00:39:43,960 --> 00:39:47,040 Speaker 1: so much. But the single bam, I like it, all right, 765 00:39:48,040 --> 00:39:50,040 Speaker 1: that is one bam. All right, David, thanks so much 766 00:39:50,040 --> 00:39:52,600 Speaker 1: for the time. David Thompson, he covers NC State and 767 00:39:53,000 --> 00:39:55,160 Speaker 1: we're talking Ikwana. But before I let you go, David, 768 00:39:55,360 --> 00:40:00,040 Speaker 1: people can follow you at Dave thh eighty nine. And 769 00:40:00,160 --> 00:40:03,200 Speaker 1: I know you did a pretty lengthy podcast with Ikey 770 00:40:03,280 --> 00:40:05,319 Speaker 1: Aquanu in the past. Why don't you tell people where 771 00:40:05,320 --> 00:40:07,160 Speaker 1: they can find that and what they can hear on that. 772 00:40:07,840 --> 00:40:11,160 Speaker 1: So if you go find that story on a Kimi 773 00:40:11,239 --> 00:40:13,920 Speaker 1: Kuanu at the bottom of the link. There at the 774 00:40:13,960 --> 00:40:16,320 Speaker 1: bottom of the story, there is a link to the 775 00:40:16,400 --> 00:40:19,360 Speaker 1: Believe in NC State podcast with Ikey where we talked 776 00:40:19,440 --> 00:40:22,160 Speaker 1: for an hour maybe an hour and a half just 777 00:40:22,320 --> 00:40:25,880 Speaker 1: about I think it really gives you a good a 778 00:40:26,000 --> 00:40:28,640 Speaker 1: good sense of his love of football, but just kind 779 00:40:28,680 --> 00:40:30,880 Speaker 1: of how well rounded of a guy that he is. 780 00:40:31,040 --> 00:40:33,960 Speaker 1: And he's really funny and engaging, and it's just one 781 00:40:34,000 --> 00:40:35,920 Speaker 1: of the greatest interviews I've ever done. And it was 782 00:40:36,080 --> 00:40:38,239 Speaker 1: very It was it wasn't a Q and A. It 783 00:40:38,360 --> 00:40:40,759 Speaker 1: was just two people hanging out talking and I really 784 00:40:40,840 --> 00:40:43,480 Speaker 1: enjoyed that. And I think if Texans fans want to 785 00:40:43,640 --> 00:40:45,600 Speaker 1: know a lot about him, that's that's the best way 786 00:40:45,640 --> 00:40:47,880 Speaker 1: to get to know or read my story. Took a 787 00:40:47,960 --> 00:40:50,960 Speaker 1: quantity the Texans man. I really would love to see 788 00:40:51,000 --> 00:40:57,120 Speaker 1: that happen because that offensive line would grow in nasty tenfold. 789 00:40:57,320 --> 00:41:00,759 Speaker 1: He is a tremendous player, great athlete, oneful young man, 790 00:41:00,880 --> 00:41:03,280 Speaker 1: So that would be a great fit if the Texans 791 00:41:04,120 --> 00:41:06,759 Speaker 1: want to add Iki Quanta to this offensive line at 792 00:41:06,840 --> 00:41:10,480 Speaker 1: number three. Great stuff, Deepie and David Thompson. We get back, 793 00:41:10,760 --> 00:41:12,560 Speaker 1: We got a shorty. We'll do a little round the 794 00:41:12,680 --> 00:41:14,880 Speaker 1: NFL to close things up next right here in Texans 795 00:41:14,920 --> 00:41:20,400 Speaker 1: All Access Access Access. Well, I really felt like starting 796 00:41:20,480 --> 00:41:22,640 Speaker 1: this final segment a little shorter. We've got here on 797 00:41:22,680 --> 00:41:26,840 Speaker 1: Texans All Access on this Wednesday evening with some some 798 00:41:27,040 --> 00:41:30,960 Speaker 1: soap opera music because it's you know, as the NFL 799 00:41:31,120 --> 00:41:36,200 Speaker 1: world turns. That's the way this thing feels. Every single day, 800 00:41:36,320 --> 00:41:39,759 Speaker 1: there's just new news. We get back in the Combine. 801 00:41:40,040 --> 00:41:42,520 Speaker 1: I'm finishing up the Harris one hundred. I get that 802 00:41:42,640 --> 00:41:45,520 Speaker 1: thing done. And then it's Roger staying in Green Bay, 803 00:41:45,719 --> 00:41:50,000 Speaker 1: which I sort of expected. But then Denver makes the 804 00:41:50,080 --> 00:41:52,359 Speaker 1: deal for Russell Wilson, and to talk to Combine had 805 00:41:52,400 --> 00:41:54,960 Speaker 1: been Russell Wilson was going to stay with the Seahawks, 806 00:41:55,040 --> 00:41:56,600 Speaker 1: or at least that's what Pete Carroll said, and then 807 00:41:56,640 --> 00:41:59,760 Speaker 1: he gets traded. And then today it's Carson Wentz getting 808 00:41:59,760 --> 00:42:03,719 Speaker 1: trade to the Washington Commanders. And it wasn't too much 809 00:42:03,719 --> 00:42:06,680 Speaker 1: of a surprise that Carson Wentz got traded, but it's 810 00:42:06,760 --> 00:42:10,120 Speaker 1: what the Colts got back in return. They got two thirds. 811 00:42:10,320 --> 00:42:12,600 Speaker 1: One of those thirds can turn into a second with 812 00:42:12,719 --> 00:42:17,560 Speaker 1: seventy percent plays by Wentz in twenty twenty. And they 813 00:42:17,640 --> 00:42:20,719 Speaker 1: also got all the cap relief the Commanders took on 814 00:42:20,800 --> 00:42:24,600 Speaker 1: the whole contract, so wow. And then of course Texans 815 00:42:24,680 --> 00:42:28,000 Speaker 1: news Terrence Mitchell released today. I hate that in the 816 00:42:28,120 --> 00:42:30,480 Speaker 1: sense that team Mitch was one of the better guys man. 817 00:42:30,520 --> 00:42:32,040 Speaker 1: You never saw him without a smile. He was a 818 00:42:32,080 --> 00:42:34,160 Speaker 1: fun guy to have around. Made a couple of big 819 00:42:34,239 --> 00:42:36,600 Speaker 1: plays from return over perspective. The punch out he had 820 00:42:36,600 --> 00:42:38,960 Speaker 1: against the Patriots the goal line was huge, but the 821 00:42:39,040 --> 00:42:41,799 Speaker 1: business of football takes over at this time of year 822 00:42:41,840 --> 00:42:45,040 Speaker 1: in the league, year is about eight days away. Big 823 00:42:45,120 --> 00:42:47,480 Speaker 1: thanks to David Thompson, the Deep City, to Mark vandermir 824 00:42:47,600 --> 00:42:50,120 Speaker 1: my Man, Austin Mendez back in studio. Love you guys, 825 00:42:50,200 --> 00:42:51,960 Speaker 1: thanks for listening, and this always go Texans.