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Speaker 1: also talk about in this episode fan fiction uses Tumbler

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Speaker 1: but I have noticed to rise. I feel like this

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Speaker 1: I would love to the art Samantha it's so good

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Speaker 1: and people do comics and they make me laugh. Perfect, Yes,

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Speaker 1: so please enjoy this classic episode all about Tumbler. Hey,

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Speaker 1: just so you know, this episode is inspired by recent

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Speaker 1: not telling you my user name, so you have to search.

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Speaker 1: It's not happening. But Annie, I do have a question

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Speaker 1: algorithm working for against women in general when we see

432
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Speaker 1: things like this, as well as the fact that, yeah,

433
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Speaker 1: the constant complain about the recipes about free content, I

434
00:25:14,040 --> 00:25:17,479
Speaker 1: get it. Things are annoying, ads are annoying. Conversations can

435
00:25:17,560 --> 00:25:22,960
Speaker 1: be a little like long winded and annoying. But it's free. Yeah,

436
00:25:23,480 --> 00:25:29,640
Speaker 1: and you don't have to use that, so sorry, it's

437
00:25:29,640 --> 00:25:34,600
Speaker 1: so easy enough to just if you need to keep

438
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Speaker 1: it in the screenshot. That's about everything to do, screenshot everything.

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00:25:39,080 --> 00:25:42,120
Speaker 1: It's a delightful thing. Um. But we didn't get into

440
00:25:42,160 --> 00:25:45,800
Speaker 1: the narrative about the stealing of recipes, which has been

441
00:25:45,840 --> 00:25:49,000
Speaker 1: a back and forth between a lot of authors and

442
00:25:49,200 --> 00:25:51,919
Speaker 1: a lot of bloggers, because that happens a lot in

443
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Speaker 1: this industry, especially if they're lesser known to the bigger

444
00:25:54,920 --> 00:25:58,159
Speaker 1: influencers who should be called out. And so that's a

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Speaker 1: whole other conversation we didn't get into. I'm sure we'll

446
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Speaker 1: get into when we talk about video content and blog

447
00:26:03,960 --> 00:26:21,800
Speaker 1: our ships and such, because we know what happens a lot. Okay,

448
00:26:21,920 --> 00:26:25,840
Speaker 1: we're going down another world in blogs and I think

449
00:26:25,880 --> 00:26:31,040
Speaker 1: any was so excited. Yes, yes, yes, which is fantic blogs.

450
00:26:31,080 --> 00:26:32,840
Speaker 1: I feel like it's kind of meta. Is that not

451
00:26:32,960 --> 00:26:34,840
Speaker 1: kind of meta? Is that kind of meta? And that

452
00:26:34,920 --> 00:26:37,840
Speaker 1: you're talking about something that's talking about something? Oh yeah,

453
00:26:37,880 --> 00:26:44,400
Speaker 1: And I have uh thought thoughts about that. And by

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Speaker 1: the way, as we were researching trying to find different

455
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Speaker 1: blogs as well as you know, which is dominated more

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Speaker 1: about women, which isn't and fan fic did come up

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Speaker 1: quite often, and there are many of fanfic blogs. They

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Speaker 1: didn't tell me why, It just more told us who

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00:27:01,440 --> 00:27:03,960
Speaker 1: was out there where you should go to find those blogs.

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00:27:04,200 --> 00:27:07,280
Speaker 1: So just let you know. And yeah, again, there are

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00:27:07,320 --> 00:27:11,320
Speaker 1: plenty of blogs concerning your favorite fan fix and blogs

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00:27:11,520 --> 00:27:13,920
Speaker 1: to give you new fan fix you may have never

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00:27:13,960 --> 00:27:17,240
Speaker 1: heard about or not even seen yet. And I saw

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Speaker 1: plenty on Archive of our Own, which is a oh

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Speaker 1: three and he just had to tell me what that

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Speaker 1: stood for. Um And there's a tons and apparently a

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00:27:26,400 --> 00:27:31,640
Speaker 1: lot of those have the slash yeah, which for those

468
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Speaker 1: who don't know, if you somehow missed all the fan

469
00:27:33,800 --> 00:27:37,680
Speaker 1: fiction talk I've done, is usually a two male characters

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Speaker 1: romantically involved. However, I will say while the ones you

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Speaker 1: hear about are usually they're highly sexual, ones, often they're

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Speaker 1: not sexual. Usually there what's called curtain fix, which is

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00:27:48,119 --> 00:27:54,200
Speaker 1: just like domestic life, a slice of life. And yeah,

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Speaker 1: many many of these blogs do you offer, like, yeah,

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00:27:57,440 --> 00:27:59,840
Speaker 1: all of your favorites under webesite, And we were looking

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Speaker 1: some of the favorites which I have heard of these

477
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Speaker 1: um here at the top three, there's Twisting the hell Mouth,

478
00:28:06,080 --> 00:28:09,080
Speaker 1: which is a Buffy related fan fixed site. There's um

479
00:28:09,160 --> 00:28:12,840
Speaker 1: fan fixed nets, which is they have potions, the stitches

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00:28:12,840 --> 00:28:14,880
Speaker 1: a Harry Potter one. I am very familiar with that one.

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Speaker 1: And then yes AO three works tag Steve Rogers and

482
00:28:18,119 --> 00:28:24,080
Speaker 1: Tony Stark. That's pretty obvious. So yeah, it's interesting because,

483
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Speaker 1: as I talked about in the fan fiction episode, fan

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Speaker 1: fiction is a very community driven space, and it's like

485
00:28:31,880 --> 00:28:34,080
Speaker 1: it's kind of like blocking, like you write this thing,

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Speaker 1: you write a chapter, and then people can comment on it,

487
00:28:37,200 --> 00:28:40,680
Speaker 1: or in the case of AO three, they can leave kudos,

488
00:28:40,680 --> 00:28:42,560
Speaker 1: which is just like hey, thumbs up, I liked that,

489
00:28:43,000 --> 00:28:46,240
Speaker 1: and then from that people become they want to be

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00:28:46,320 --> 00:28:49,440
Speaker 1: even more fanish about their favorite fan fictions. So there

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Speaker 1: are blogs that are spaces where the creators of the

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00:28:53,880 --> 00:28:58,800
Speaker 1: stories can design um artwork or chapter artwork, and they

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00:28:58,840 --> 00:29:02,280
Speaker 1: can like give users about like what's coming up in

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Speaker 1: the next chapter, or use it as kind of like hey,

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00:29:04,480 --> 00:29:06,600
Speaker 1: the new chapters up, here's the snippet, here's a piece

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00:29:06,600 --> 00:29:10,040
Speaker 1: of art. And at the same time, fans who read

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00:29:10,040 --> 00:29:11,960
Speaker 1: this fan fiction and really love it, they might go

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00:29:12,040 --> 00:29:15,640
Speaker 1: to their blog and design like a piece of art

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00:29:15,960 --> 00:29:18,360
Speaker 1: or something for it, and then that gets shown in

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00:29:18,400 --> 00:29:21,080
Speaker 1: the fan fiction. Sometimes if the author finds it or

501
00:29:21,120 --> 00:29:24,320
Speaker 1: sees it. But it's also used for something Samantha's heard

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00:29:24,360 --> 00:29:26,000
Speaker 1: me talk about. But I'm not sure you've ever really

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00:29:26,080 --> 00:29:30,960
Speaker 1: understood what I'm talking about. Which are challenges are prompts

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00:29:31,080 --> 00:29:35,000
Speaker 1: where somebody on a Tumbler or discord I see discord.

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Speaker 1: A lot come up in this conversation will say like

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00:29:38,400 --> 00:29:41,360
Speaker 1: it's this is just the first example coming to mind

507
00:29:41,560 --> 00:29:45,640
Speaker 1: kick week, and here it's like, I want a week

508
00:29:45,680 --> 00:29:48,600
Speaker 1: of this type of like, well, they'll do sentences. You

509
00:29:48,600 --> 00:29:52,480
Speaker 1: have to include the sentence, or they'll do like exchange

510
00:29:52,520 --> 00:29:55,960
Speaker 1: weeks where different authors will exchange like stories for each other.

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00:29:56,000 --> 00:29:58,640
Speaker 1: Almost has gifts. But a lot of these like prompts

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00:29:58,880 --> 00:30:02,479
Speaker 1: come up in Humbler where authors are fans get together

513
00:30:03,080 --> 00:30:04,640
Speaker 1: and they're like, you know what I really want to see.

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00:30:04,680 --> 00:30:06,200
Speaker 1: I want to see a lot of stories that are

515
00:30:06,200 --> 00:30:09,600
Speaker 1: really sad about like Darth Vader being a terrible dad

516
00:30:09,640 --> 00:30:12,520
Speaker 1: and all that kind of stuff. Murder Dad, sad murder

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Speaker 1: Dad as he's called, yes um. And that's a funny

518
00:30:14,720 --> 00:30:17,320
Speaker 1: thing too about Aoh three. It's one of my favorite

519
00:30:17,320 --> 00:30:20,479
Speaker 1: things is it has tags. So every story is tagged

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00:30:20,480 --> 00:30:22,640
Speaker 1: with like you know, the characters that are in it

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00:30:22,920 --> 00:30:26,480
Speaker 1: the genre, and then oftentimes they get really creative of

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00:30:26,600 --> 00:30:28,920
Speaker 1: like sad murder dad or whatever, so you know what's

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00:30:28,920 --> 00:30:30,240
Speaker 1: going to be in the story that you're reading. But

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Speaker 1: they can get quite funny and long. But you'll see

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Speaker 1: in there like the Dan Luke discord made me do it,

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00:30:36,800 --> 00:30:39,280
Speaker 1: or like the Tumbler made me do it um, so

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00:30:39,360 --> 00:30:41,280
Speaker 1: you'll know like, oh, this is a challenge or this

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00:30:41,360 --> 00:30:45,600
Speaker 1: is something that happened in that vanished space, which I

529
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Speaker 1: really enjoy. I love that kind of community aspect of it,

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00:30:48,680 --> 00:30:51,920
Speaker 1: and of like everybody getting so excited and liking each

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00:30:51,920 --> 00:30:55,080
Speaker 1: other's work and kind of building each other up. And yes,

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00:30:55,640 --> 00:30:58,040
Speaker 1: many of these blogs have been used for educational purposes

533
00:30:58,080 --> 00:31:00,560
Speaker 1: as well, because of course, who doesn't want to study

534
00:31:00,560 --> 00:31:03,600
Speaker 1: about the Lord Rings fan fiction through blogs unless you

535
00:31:03,600 --> 00:31:05,680
Speaker 1: know the best content out there. I've seen Busfeed to

536
00:31:05,800 --> 00:31:09,800
Speaker 1: BuzzFeed has done list of like here twenty three fan

537
00:31:09,840 --> 00:31:13,000
Speaker 1: fiction that are better than the original, which is really great,

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00:31:13,080 --> 00:31:17,880
Speaker 1: especially because there's so much content. Yes, yes, let me

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Speaker 1: ask you, because you know I must ask as the

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00:31:20,520 --> 00:31:26,520
Speaker 1: all knowledgeable FANSI expert. Yes, Sminty, do you have favorite blogs?

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00:31:26,800 --> 00:31:28,960
Speaker 1: I don't. I wouldn't say I have favorite blogs. But

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00:31:30,000 --> 00:31:33,360
Speaker 1: I often at the bottom of of a fan fiction,

543
00:31:33,440 --> 00:31:35,840
Speaker 1: at the end of a chapter, it'll be like, check

544
00:31:35,880 --> 00:31:38,400
Speaker 1: out this person's work of this scene or go do this,

545
00:31:38,480 --> 00:31:40,360
Speaker 1: and I will because that art can be amazing, and

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00:31:40,400 --> 00:31:42,840
Speaker 1: some people embed it in the fan fiction so you'll

547
00:31:42,880 --> 00:31:45,560
Speaker 1: be reading it's like illustrated. I'm so excited to be

548
00:31:45,560 --> 00:31:48,200
Speaker 1: talking about this right now. So right before when you

549
00:31:48,200 --> 00:31:51,040
Speaker 1: asked me, you told me you're gonna ask. I looked

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00:31:51,280 --> 00:31:53,680
Speaker 1: at some stories that I know. I've included a lot

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00:31:53,720 --> 00:31:57,120
Speaker 1: of art that I really liked, and one is called

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Speaker 1: Furio Sophie, So that's f you are I O S

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Speaker 1: O P H I E dot Tumbler dot com. They've

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Speaker 1: written a lot of stuff I love, and they've got

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00:32:05,440 --> 00:32:07,240
Speaker 1: a lot of artwork up. And then there's s A

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00:32:07,360 --> 00:32:10,040
Speaker 1: D B right, So that's s A D I E

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Speaker 1: B W R I T E s dot Tumbler dot

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Speaker 1: com and Tumbler if you don't know, is t U

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00:32:16,240 --> 00:32:19,760
Speaker 1: M B l r um. And they also have stories

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00:32:19,800 --> 00:32:23,240
Speaker 1: that they've written that I love, and illustrations and like teasers,

561
00:32:23,280 --> 00:32:26,200
Speaker 1: and they'll do like funny gifts, which you are good.

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00:32:26,480 --> 00:32:29,080
Speaker 1: One of my favorite is like horny but terrified. You

563
00:32:29,120 --> 00:32:33,280
Speaker 1: can look that up if you want, Okay, And that's

564
00:32:33,320 --> 00:32:35,400
Speaker 1: that's funny too, is I was telling you right before

565
00:32:35,480 --> 00:32:38,240
Speaker 1: when you ask his meta. There are stories that are

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Speaker 1: what are essentially love letters to people on these tumblers,

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00:32:43,040 --> 00:32:46,000
Speaker 1: are the groups or communities on the tumbler or on

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00:32:46,240 --> 00:32:48,800
Speaker 1: discord or on Twitch or whatever. So there are stories

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Speaker 1: that are like modern alternate universes that are about like, say,

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00:32:55,080 --> 00:32:58,240
Speaker 1: what if Luke found if he was a blogger and

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00:32:58,400 --> 00:33:01,960
Speaker 1: he met the Mandalorian that way, or what if they

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00:33:02,000 --> 00:33:05,320
Speaker 1: found fan fiction and then what happens. It's just but

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00:33:05,360 --> 00:33:09,480
Speaker 1: they're they're very like cute stories about kind of yeah,

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00:33:09,480 --> 00:33:11,800
Speaker 1: these love letters to the other fans, and there's one

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00:33:11,880 --> 00:33:15,840
Speaker 1: where they're both streamers and it's just really funny sweet.

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00:33:16,120 --> 00:33:20,720
Speaker 1: Uh yeah, very meta though very very meda. Okay, okay, yeah,

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00:33:20,720 --> 00:33:22,920
Speaker 1: I thought so. So I don't know, you don't have one,

578
00:33:22,960 --> 00:33:26,360
Speaker 1: do you. I don't have one. No. I feel like

579
00:33:26,400 --> 00:33:29,280
Speaker 1: I could really excel in this area, so you could too.

580
00:33:29,480 --> 00:33:31,680
Speaker 1: I think you might need to, because I know you're

581
00:33:31,680 --> 00:33:34,560
Speaker 1: always giving recommendations to friends and other people who are

582
00:33:34,640 --> 00:33:37,080
Speaker 1: dabbling into the world of fan fiction. So I feel

583
00:33:37,080 --> 00:33:41,400
Speaker 1: like you needed to A Beginner's blog, Beginner's guide blog

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Speaker 1: for fan fiction. I think I could because I've got

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00:33:44,360 --> 00:33:46,720
Speaker 1: like my list of if I think you're interested in this,

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00:33:46,880 --> 00:33:49,200
Speaker 1: it's like separated out by categories, and then I'll have

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00:33:49,240 --> 00:33:51,520
Speaker 1: caveats of like this is one thing I love about

588
00:33:51,520 --> 00:33:53,520
Speaker 1: fan Fixsue now is that has trigger warnings often and

589
00:33:53,560 --> 00:33:56,560
Speaker 1: they're very specific and you press a button to skip

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00:33:56,560 --> 00:33:57,840
Speaker 1: to the end to see it. So if you don't

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00:33:57,840 --> 00:33:59,400
Speaker 1: want to be spoiled in any way, then you can

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00:33:59,440 --> 00:34:01,360
Speaker 1: do it that way. But I feel like I could

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00:34:01,400 --> 00:34:04,240
Speaker 1: really lay it out and uh, like do you want

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00:34:04,240 --> 00:34:05,320
Speaker 1: to go this way, if you want to go this way,

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00:34:05,320 --> 00:34:06,320
Speaker 1: if you want to go this way, and then I

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00:34:06,320 --> 00:34:09,040
Speaker 1: can like explain and have like an explainer of terminology

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00:34:09,120 --> 00:34:13,719
Speaker 1: and what you're looking for. I think we found your blog. Yes,

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00:34:16,440 --> 00:34:22,400
Speaker 1: I doubt you would know. I was happy. Yes, she

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00:34:22,520 --> 00:34:28,800
Speaker 1: went down happy it's coming back. And although fanfic blogs

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00:34:28,800 --> 00:34:31,720
Speaker 1: seems very much on the original track of what blogging

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00:34:32,040 --> 00:34:35,120
Speaker 1: was as in like the whole writing and that's said

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00:34:35,200 --> 00:34:38,960
Speaker 1: it's just for pure joy and for pure community, because

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00:34:39,000 --> 00:34:41,880
Speaker 1: we know overall the other types of blogging have changed,

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00:34:42,040 --> 00:34:45,680
Speaker 1: especially the ones that we've talked about, which now includes vlogging,

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00:34:45,840 --> 00:34:49,760
Speaker 1: social media influencers, and podcasters, and just like all things,

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00:34:50,120 --> 00:34:53,640
Speaker 1: it has changed substantially since its inception, and largely due

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Speaker 1: to that dreaded word monetization. I mean again, I don't

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00:34:57,960 --> 00:35:00,000
Speaker 1: blame you, because you know I would love to make

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00:35:00,040 --> 00:35:02,120
Speaker 1: money that way. I guess I do make money that way.

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Speaker 1: What And according to a blog post written by Rebecca

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Speaker 1: Deeds on Medium, personal blogging is slowly dying out. So

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00:35:10,800 --> 00:35:13,080
Speaker 1: those days of being able to post about your daily

613
00:35:13,160 --> 00:35:16,520
Speaker 1: journey or just thoughts are slowly dying out, in part

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Speaker 1: to things like Twitter and TikTok, which allow for a

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00:35:20,040 --> 00:35:22,279
Speaker 1: condensed version of all of that. So you can just

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Speaker 1: do three lines a d thirty words todays this instead

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00:35:26,239 --> 00:35:31,080
Speaker 1: of the the very much longer Uh well, tumblers are short.

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00:35:31,600 --> 00:35:33,759
Speaker 1: How long it can be, it can be pretty short.

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Speaker 1: Does it allow for a larger posts? It does? I

620
00:35:36,480 --> 00:35:39,440
Speaker 1: mean usually I feel in my experience though, it's like

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00:35:39,560 --> 00:35:44,239
Speaker 1: maybe three four paragraphs and then art. Okay, but I

622
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Speaker 1: don't know much about tumbler. I never got into that route.

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Speaker 1: How We'll say that. But also due to the level

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Speaker 1: of successive blogs that pertain to lifestyle, which is dominated

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00:35:52,600 --> 00:35:56,839
Speaker 1: by mostly celebrity level of influencers, and even if they're

626
00:35:56,880 --> 00:36:01,879
Speaker 1: not celebrities yet, they eventually become celebrities because of their

627
00:36:01,920 --> 00:36:05,520
Speaker 1: lifestyle content. Yeah, and these is not the only one

628
00:36:05,520 --> 00:36:07,720
Speaker 1: who has seen the signs of the end of the blog.

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Speaker 1: But when you look at the numbers, it seems like

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Speaker 1: it's not really going anywhere, um, just being used as

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00:36:13,440 --> 00:36:15,959
Speaker 1: part of like a multi level section of a larger brand.

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Speaker 1: And I know that was a big push at our

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Speaker 1: job for a while, Like you had to have a

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00:36:18,680 --> 00:36:20,520
Speaker 1: YouTube persons, you had to have a Tumbler presence, like

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00:36:20,560 --> 00:36:23,839
Speaker 1: you had to have a brand, and that meant being

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00:36:23,880 --> 00:36:27,040
Speaker 1: on all of these different platforms, right, which is shocking.

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00:36:27,360 --> 00:36:28,719
Speaker 1: I don't know if I can do that. Just being

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00:36:28,719 --> 00:36:31,000
Speaker 1: all these social media performs is hard. It's a lot

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00:36:31,000 --> 00:36:33,840
Speaker 1: of work. So Yeah, blogs typically no longer stand on

640
00:36:33,880 --> 00:36:37,600
Speaker 1: their own, but have now become incorporated into everyday business

641
00:36:37,600 --> 00:36:39,880
Speaker 1: sites as a way to increase sales or increase traffic

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00:36:39,920 --> 00:36:43,319
Speaker 1: to websites, and typically marketers reuse blogs to sell their

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Speaker 1: use of blogs for content marketing, many businesses prefer this

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Speaker 1: method and use this method, and it seems to work.

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Speaker 1: Seven out of ten customers preferred articles over ads, according

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Speaker 1: to one study, and another study showed that over sixty

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Speaker 1: I mean again, that's kind of why when we talk

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Speaker 1: to tell the story and not only allow them, but

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Speaker 1: you know, let them do their things. You don't have

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Speaker 1: to read it, it just has to be there. Enjoy

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Speaker 1: the recipe, Go make you some good potato soup. The

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Speaker 1: potato soup. I can't the winner. But overall, blogging has

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Speaker 1: it's become a bigger part of a brand um which

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Speaker 1: seems so different to the wholesome zanga days of all

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Speaker 1: for which I try to hide away. And again, as

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Speaker 1: we continue to grow, especially when it comes to social

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Speaker 1: media and how many different platforms have been developed since

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Speaker 1: blog and blogging, it'll be interesting to see how much

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Speaker 1: podcasts or or whatever it is is usually because there

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Speaker 1: that is that is interesting, and I'm excited to come

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Speaker 1: and I'm you know, like things like discorded Twitch and

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Speaker 1: just see see what's going on. What's going on there.

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Speaker 1: But in the meantime, listeners. If you have a blog,

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Speaker 1: if you have blog recommendations, we want them. You can

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