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Speaker 1: Hey, guys, welcome to another episode of Selective Ignorance. However,

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Speaker 1: before we get to this week's episode, I want to

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Speaker 1: remind you guys to purchase my book No Holds Barred,

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Speaker 1: a dual manifesto of sexual exploration and power.

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Speaker 2: So feel free to go to your local bookstores.

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Speaker 1: Preferably queer owned, black owned, or woman owned to support them.

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Speaker 1: But also just click the button on Amazon, Barnes and Nobles,

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Speaker 1: or wherever you read your books.

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Speaker 3: Again.

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Speaker 1: That is No Holds Barred, a dual manifesto of sexual

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Speaker 1: exploration and power, written by yours truly and my co

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Speaker 1: host of the Decisions Decisions podcast, Weezy.

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Speaker 2: Make sure y'all get that. Now, let's get to this

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Speaker 2: week's episode. This is Mandy B.

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Speaker 1: Welcome to Selective Ignorance, a production of the Black Effect

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Speaker 1: Podcast Network and Iart Radio. Welcome back, y'all to another

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Speaker 1: episode of Selective Ignorance with me, you girl, Mandy B.

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Speaker 3: And today's episode.

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Speaker 1: Oh it's late and it's messy because I have a

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Speaker 1: very special guest in here with me today. But we're

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Speaker 1: gonna get into pop culture. Off top, the internet has

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Speaker 1: a stop di secting the leaked jail calls from Young

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Speaker 1: Thugs Wat and now he's dropped a new single that

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Speaker 1: feels like a diary entry of pain and burn bridges

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Speaker 1: and oh my god, crime a River. But here's the question,

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Speaker 1: was this apology anywhere near as loud as the disrespect

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Speaker 1: or the kind of sension he was doing. We'll talk

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Speaker 1: about that, And of course, Mariah does she really know

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Speaker 1: about the details. Apparently, y'all she heard those calls a

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Speaker 1: year ago. I'm gonna talk about the leaked text messages

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Speaker 1: between her and Tasha Kay where apparently she really only

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Speaker 1: maybe broke up with the man because she got embarrassed

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Speaker 1: by y'all, she allegedly already knew all of the teats,

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Speaker 1: So we're gonna get into that. And then this is

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Speaker 1: not a sports podcast, but we cannot ignore the buzz

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Speaker 1: around Carmelo Anthony's Hall of Fame speak. The man didn't

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Speaker 1: mention Lala, which has the timeline in a fuzzy all right,

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Speaker 1: so is leaving his ex wife out and oversight a

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Speaker 1: statement or just none of our damn business. However, what

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Speaker 1: is our business is that he did think his daughter,

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Speaker 1: on La La.

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Speaker 2: So maybe he should have mentioned Lalla too.

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Speaker 4: I don't know.

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Speaker 1: Then politics, y'all, we are talking about the killing of

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Speaker 1: Charlie Kirk, which has sparked a different type of outrage online.

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Speaker 1: People are arguing over whether or not caring is the

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Speaker 1: same as celebrating a death. It's a stark mirror of

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Speaker 1: how we grieve or refuse to in public. That's just

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Speaker 1: the top layer of it all, y'all. There's more to impact,

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Speaker 1: from the nature of public apologies to the way we

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Speaker 1: choose to get empathy in who doesn't grab your white

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Speaker 1: lens with me. We're not here to drown in every headline,

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Speaker 1: but we are here to sift through the noise and

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Speaker 1: find out what actually matters.

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Speaker 3: Two me and my.

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Speaker 1: Superproducers who are joined by me.

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Speaker 3: Today and always.

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Speaker 1: Y'all, it's been a while, but we have our gang

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Speaker 1: back in the building. We have both Jason and a

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Speaker 1: King back. We had like two episodes with just Jason,

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Speaker 1: two episodes with just King. We were you know, maybe

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Speaker 1: three two three episodes. You was out celebrating what you're

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Speaker 1: it was you were it was.

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Speaker 5: My family.

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Speaker 1: All I know is Jason was like, hey, I got

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Speaker 1: to be out of town. The wife so I ain't

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Speaker 1: gonna make that recorded. And then, of course we are

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Speaker 1: joined by a very special guest, my friend, the person

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Speaker 1: who is more controversial.

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Speaker 2: Than me on the interwebs.

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Speaker 3: We have Ray Daniel. I really think the most controversial.

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Speaker 2: I was saying that that is not true.

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Speaker 3: I respect you, like, that's my thing.

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Speaker 4: I admire about you.

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Speaker 6: I'm like, how does she like I would never do

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Speaker 6: a horrible decisions?

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Speaker 3: As like?

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Speaker 1: She like, first off, you just went on and luckily

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Speaker 1: now I feel like I have to actually have you

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Speaker 3: I hate okay, so let me say this. I did.

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Speaker 6: I thought that I'm like tottering, I should talk. I

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Speaker 3: I just I don't really know what to say process.

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Speaker 6: No one asked, nobody asked me like she just it

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Speaker 6: was like, first to yourselves so much relationships.

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Speaker 3: I'm like, I'm happy if you're real. I'm like, should

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Speaker 3: I do this?

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Speaker 2: Well?

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Speaker 7: You did.

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Speaker 3: I believe in I believe in being free and living happy, and.

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Speaker 2: I like that we're kind of the same person.

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Speaker 3: Really, that's what I'm saying. I don't think I'm not controversial.

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Speaker 6: I think that I'm just I think that I think

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Speaker 6: that I just think the way a man does.

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Speaker 3: You think the way a woman does.

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Speaker 6: But I think that that's what makes it beautiful because

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Speaker 6: you teach me so much about women.

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Speaker 1: Actually, people say, I have the mind of a man.

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Speaker 3: No, you teach me about women.

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Speaker 6: So no, no, no, you teach me about women because

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Speaker 6: even though you you have the you have the male tendencies,

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Speaker 6: but you no, no, let me see what I mean,

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Speaker 6: meaning like you perform like a man, you talk like

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Speaker 6: a man. The aggression is manly, but everything that comes

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Speaker 6: out your mouth is what a woman wants to say. No, absolutely,

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Speaker 6: you're beautiful, But I'm saying you still are like hold

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Speaker 6: on and it's like that's when Nigga like back up,

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Speaker 6: you know?

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Speaker 3: But yeah, do you agree with him? King?

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Speaker 4: Now you want to throw us?

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Speaker 2: I mean, you know ya like y'all y'all chose to

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Speaker 8: On this project represent a fabric of women that are voiceless, okay,

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Speaker 8: and they channeled through you, right. I think how people

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Speaker 8: to it. So you know, they always say you got

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Speaker 8: to meet people where they're at. They're trying to figure

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Speaker 8: out how they could meet where you're at.

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Speaker 2: I'm on another planet.

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Speaker 8: It they didn't right, and it they didn't rock with you.

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Speaker 8: They were this, come on, we're talking about almost a

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Speaker 8: decade in right.

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Speaker 3: You're right, you're right.

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Speaker 4: What we're talking about?

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Speaker 3: You right?

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Speaker 4: They locked in. They want to hear it.

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Speaker 3: I don't know. Nobody mad at her. Everybody gets mad

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Speaker 3: at me. I don't know what. Nobody gets mad at you.

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Speaker 6: No, no, I have never seen you ever had public

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Speaker 4: You said on the pod, Oh yeah, really like what?

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, oh, I don't know if you pick. No,

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Speaker 3: I didn't pick like it's one hundred and fifty positive

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Speaker 1: My whole alphabet community got mad at me because we

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Speaker 1: and at this time, I'm like them in there, that's

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Speaker 1: multiple people, you just one person. I didn't get the pronouns.

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Speaker 1: I was confused, and she was wearing pink, but she

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Speaker 2: And so the whole.

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Speaker 1: Episode, I'm like, listen, I'm new to this, you know,

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Speaker 1: excuse me, she went on her pot Sorry she not

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Speaker 3: I don't know she is she.

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Speaker 7: But that doesn't sound that different than last time.

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Speaker 3: Ray was on no, no, no, no no right now.

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Speaker 1: Well, I'm saying though that at the point became an issue.

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Speaker 2: I'm learning though I'm better now. It's so a little

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Speaker 1: But yeah, no, my whole community kind of got mad

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Speaker 8: As far as Mandy, nobody has no one has a problem.

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Speaker 8: Oh wait, no, you know in the public they do

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Speaker 8: hold on. You know who else got mad at me?

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Speaker 1: Even though he did say I could go to one

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Speaker 1: of his shows, Meek Mill when I went on Need

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Speaker 1: to Know Poe, and they was trying to make it

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Speaker 2: Great ass rapper and I was like, hey cool.

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Speaker 1: I was like, y'all know five meat Meal records and

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Speaker 1: that ship blew up.

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Speaker 3: I was like, no, that ship went viral. I didn't

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Speaker 6: I think things only blow up because everybody felt that way,

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Speaker 6: and they're like, how, like how do you have to

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Speaker 6: like what.

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Speaker 1: Well no, and then and then the real problem was

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Speaker 1: Reggie was able to name five.

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Speaker 3: But here's the thing too. All the ones was like features.

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Speaker 2: I said, God, name me some without Drake, name me

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Speaker 1: But you're just name four features out of pod like

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Speaker 1: dreams are not there as we know that one.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, hold on, what a minute, that's it?

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Speaker 3: You know what I mean?

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Speaker 8: No one in this room can name three name You're

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Speaker 6: Yeah, but you're you have music guy, that's true. But

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Speaker 6: like I can't, I like solo Meek or Meek feature. Now,

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Speaker 6: welcome to my house party, dreams of Nightmare, I say.

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Speaker 3: Meek records.

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Speaker 6: Now it could be I don't look at it like

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Speaker 3: I don't because it's like everything is everywhere now.

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Speaker 4: No, I'm only leaning into I understand why she said that.

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Speaker 8: I get it's and I'm not saying I fux with me,

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Speaker 8: But I'm just saying I understand it because there's fans

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Speaker 3: But that's my point.

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Speaker 6: That's why it was controversial, because it needed to be said.

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Speaker 6: Then it was like once it was said it was like,

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Speaker 6: how could you say that. It's like it kind of

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Speaker 6: us that feel that.

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Speaker 1: To me, your your your thoughts, it just becomes a

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Speaker 1: bit You're polarizing, definitely, and I think your opinions more

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Speaker 3: Not just showed the side.

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Speaker 8: You know, we got a lot to talk, but you know,

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Speaker 8: you know, we in the clip world, soky big clip

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Speaker 8: clip shipp up crazy. So just like when we had

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Speaker 8: how it was clipped up not by us, but like

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Speaker 8: people just see that that one thing.

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Speaker 1: Here's the thing with clips, right, I remember, I'll never forget.

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Speaker 1: So I used to do full court Pumps, used to

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Speaker 1: three dudes that was pissed as fuck at me, DeMarcus Cousins,

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Speaker 1: Deshaun Jackson, yeah, and uh Des Bryant got to speak

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Speaker 5: Now?

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Speaker 8: Three months ago? Man, they said that got clipped up.

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Speaker 8: When Viral Drake is gonna have the song of the Summer,

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Speaker 8: The Song of the Summer didn't chart number one for

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Speaker 3: That will we talk about?

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Speaker 4: Are we doing that? So we're not We just gonna

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Speaker 7: Are you talking about about.

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Speaker 1: So we're gonna do our double down and take it back.

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Speaker 6: Let's go see that's what I've been saying on record

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Speaker 3: Everybody is because you think about this. You got rappers

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Speaker 4: Let's be clear.

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Speaker 6: That joke from the bron my family from the Bronx

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Speaker 3: But now he got to say I'm really not. That

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Speaker 6: But what's happening is now is that we're just making

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Speaker 6: Someone from two thousand and five come out and really

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Speaker 3: That's what I'm saying the streets is dead, and ain't.

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Speaker 6: I'm happy for the streets being there now because some

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Speaker 3: Remember that kid had the.

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Speaker 2: I don't know, who are you about to get into saying.

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Speaker 1: I love the jackson from Philly. That pop honey, Oh

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Speaker 1: That's the thing though, Then you want the streets is dead. No,

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Speaker 3: That's what I mean.

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Speaker 6: Meaning there's like jay Z was a street rapper who

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Speaker 6: It's like once you come out as that, they're on

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Speaker 1: Yeah yes and no yes to know, Like the difference

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Speaker 1: What we say in Jacksonville, they were really doing gang shit,

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Speaker 6: He talked about what he did though, that's my point.

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Speaker 3: Okay, if you're doing that presently. It's almost like it's

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Speaker 3: He a real dude, He's from the streets. He really bopped,

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Speaker 6: So that's what I said. That's that right there is dead.

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Speaker 3: That's done.

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Speaker 8: So and we've seen it, like I just watched this

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Speaker 8: mindful because this They clipped up his his his video

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Speaker 3: I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if y'all saw. I don't think there's

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Speaker 1: David So, so allegedly they're pulling back a song now

447
00:18:11,840 --> 00:18:14,640
Speaker 1: with lyrics because it's a woman's remains that was found.

448
00:18:15,000 --> 00:18:18,119
Speaker 1: He has a song called Romantic Homicide talking about killing

449
00:18:18,119 --> 00:18:21,240
Speaker 1: a lover, and so they're literally pulling up this record

450
00:18:21,280 --> 00:18:23,639
Speaker 1: from five years ago to talk about it.

451
00:18:26,880 --> 00:18:29,440
Speaker 2: And but he's currently on tour. But they're like, oh,

452
00:18:29,520 --> 00:18:30,440
Speaker 2: this is looking at mind you.

453
00:18:30,480 --> 00:18:33,359
Speaker 1: He's already been dropped from two brand deals without even

454
00:18:33,520 --> 00:18:36,360
Speaker 1: I mean they're still investigating, but literally because they can

455
00:18:36,359 --> 00:18:41,280
Speaker 1: attach this romantic homicide record to his those possibly being

456
00:18:41,280 --> 00:18:42,360
Speaker 1: his thoughts of killing.

457
00:18:42,160 --> 00:18:44,280
Speaker 2: A lover, and now they're being a dead woman in.

458
00:18:44,160 --> 00:18:48,720
Speaker 1: His in his trunk, It's like, wow, damn, Like, I

459
00:18:48,720 --> 00:18:53,000
Speaker 1: think here's the problem, right we do we talk about

460
00:18:53,040 --> 00:18:55,600
Speaker 1: even an R and B. Righty, we love to know

461
00:18:55,800 --> 00:18:57,480
Speaker 1: that they're going through real heartbreak.

462
00:18:57,680 --> 00:19:00,159
Speaker 3: When someone goes through a divorce, we can't wait to.

463
00:19:00,160 --> 00:19:03,800
Speaker 1: Hear the album that's next, right, And so in that sense,

464
00:19:03,840 --> 00:19:05,760
Speaker 1: you're living your real life. I think a lot of

465
00:19:05,840 --> 00:19:08,480
Speaker 1: us like for our artists to be connected to their music,

466
00:19:08,520 --> 00:19:11,639
Speaker 1: and unfortunately, in hip hop, it's connected to the parts

467
00:19:11,640 --> 00:19:14,320
Speaker 1: of them that could send them away. I mean, shit,

468
00:19:14,359 --> 00:19:16,160
Speaker 1: look at all the stuff they did with they did

469
00:19:16,160 --> 00:19:19,359
Speaker 1: bring up a lot of thugs like Records and his

470
00:19:19,480 --> 00:19:20,040
Speaker 1: crew gang.

471
00:19:20,080 --> 00:19:23,320
Speaker 3: Even though it was what is it young? No no,

472
00:19:23,320 --> 00:19:24,520
Speaker 3: no no, but what did he.

473
00:19:24,440 --> 00:19:25,200
Speaker 2: Say it stood for.

474
00:19:26,680 --> 00:19:27,200
Speaker 3: In the court?

475
00:19:31,880 --> 00:19:37,160
Speaker 1: I was like, oh, these are good, these are good acronyms. Well,

476
00:19:37,200 --> 00:19:41,800
Speaker 1: speaking of thug let's get into pop culture and talk

477
00:19:41,880 --> 00:19:42,560
Speaker 1: curn events.

478
00:19:42,840 --> 00:19:46,600
Speaker 2: There have been a ton of leaked phone calls from you.

479
00:19:46,760 --> 00:19:47,680
Speaker 2: Have you been listening to them?

480
00:19:47,680 --> 00:19:53,879
Speaker 1: By the way, everyone, I'm I'm mad that he waited

481
00:19:53,920 --> 00:19:56,399
Speaker 1: so long to say it was AI like this week

482
00:19:56,440 --> 00:19:59,840
Speaker 1: he just he just this week said, man, that shit

483
00:19:59,920 --> 00:20:03,080
Speaker 1: is I said, niggas too late you once you actually

484
00:20:03,119 --> 00:20:05,280
Speaker 1: apologize to Glowrilla for color ugly.

485
00:20:05,520 --> 00:20:07,200
Speaker 3: We know all these fucking calls are real.

486
00:20:07,920 --> 00:20:11,200
Speaker 1: You should have claimed a I early out the gate

487
00:20:11,640 --> 00:20:13,760
Speaker 1: pretty much In these league calls, he's talked about everyone

488
00:20:13,800 --> 00:20:17,800
Speaker 1: from Drake Future, Kendrick Gunna, Clrilla apparently also another woman

489
00:20:17,840 --> 00:20:19,960
Speaker 1: he wanted to put a baby in which which one

490
00:20:20,040 --> 00:20:21,520
Speaker 1: was your favorite call and why.

491
00:20:22,200 --> 00:20:26,119
Speaker 6: My favorite possibly call was a laugh?

492
00:20:26,800 --> 00:20:27,560
Speaker 3: I laugh.

493
00:20:29,000 --> 00:20:31,840
Speaker 6: I'm like he just okay, So my favorite thing to

494
00:20:31,960 --> 00:20:34,600
Speaker 6: do in life is people watch. I love so I

495
00:20:34,640 --> 00:20:37,080
Speaker 6: love watching people in their most natural state. So this

496
00:20:37,200 --> 00:20:39,800
Speaker 6: is like his hat. You know, this is like his

497
00:20:39,520 --> 00:20:40,640
Speaker 6: his his guard is down.

498
00:20:40,720 --> 00:20:42,040
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, because he was in jail. He an't had

499
00:20:42,080 --> 00:20:42,800
Speaker 3: nothing else to nigga.

500
00:20:43,000 --> 00:20:46,000
Speaker 6: I'm just with my other Jesus Like, It's like this

501
00:20:46,040 --> 00:20:48,199
Speaker 6: is how the streets was rying, right, It's like niggas

502
00:20:48,240 --> 00:20:48,840
Speaker 6: was gossiping.

503
00:20:49,359 --> 00:20:51,320
Speaker 3: It's like, so now no, they know not to gossip

504
00:20:51,359 --> 00:20:52,720
Speaker 3: on the phone. Though not.

505
00:20:53,240 --> 00:20:56,800
Speaker 6: You know, it says the God Call is being recorded, man,

506
00:20:56,920 --> 00:20:59,080
Speaker 6: but think about it from that standpoint. Them folks trying

507
00:20:59,080 --> 00:21:03,000
Speaker 6: to hear me talk about the rhymes, okay, the sealationious part.

508
00:21:03,040 --> 00:21:03,879
Speaker 3: They like, what they're gonna do?

509
00:21:04,680 --> 00:21:07,720
Speaker 6: You get off, nigga, If you get off, That's why

510
00:21:07,760 --> 00:21:09,960
Speaker 6: I've been in I'm like, I look at it like war.

511
00:21:10,040 --> 00:21:11,679
Speaker 6: Like what people don't understand about me is that I

512
00:21:11,720 --> 00:21:13,760
Speaker 6: like to watch things. So I'm like, wow, rap is

513
00:21:13,800 --> 00:21:17,720
Speaker 6: about to go against the DA And I'm like, has

514
00:21:17,840 --> 00:21:20,360
Speaker 6: is gonna play out? Because if you in the streets,

515
00:21:20,400 --> 00:21:22,440
Speaker 6: you know what it is. It's kind of like it's

516
00:21:22,480 --> 00:21:24,080
Speaker 6: kind of like where you're gonna have to fuck with us.

517
00:21:24,200 --> 00:21:26,040
Speaker 6: We know it's real, but you're gonna have to come

518
00:21:26,040 --> 00:21:28,240
Speaker 6: fuck with us to really know it's real. But in

519
00:21:28,280 --> 00:21:30,919
Speaker 6: our world, like we've canceled people for being snitches, like

520
00:21:30,920 --> 00:21:33,400
Speaker 6: they'd pop one hundred kids Corvette Corvette.

521
00:21:33,440 --> 00:21:35,080
Speaker 3: He was seventeen when that reker took off.

522
00:21:35,080 --> 00:21:36,840
Speaker 6: They found out he went to the police when he

523
00:21:36,920 --> 00:21:40,200
Speaker 6: was fourteen because he saw crime and his mom took

524
00:21:40,280 --> 00:21:41,920
Speaker 6: him to the police stage and said, you're gonna tell

525
00:21:41,920 --> 00:21:44,399
Speaker 6: these folks. So he did it, and they he's a snitch,

526
00:21:44,440 --> 00:21:47,320
Speaker 6: and they canceled his career. The kid's on Corvette Corvette.

527
00:21:47,359 --> 00:21:49,440
Speaker 1: Hopp it there, y'all allow women though, like we could

528
00:21:49,440 --> 00:21:50,400
Speaker 1: be snitches, right because.

529
00:21:50,200 --> 00:21:52,560
Speaker 6: I'm why women the hyme around me. That's why women

530
00:21:52,600 --> 00:21:54,000
Speaker 6: are winning because they don't have no, they don't have.

531
00:21:54,000 --> 00:21:56,600
Speaker 3: Any I'm snitching. I do not have to be. I

532
00:21:56,640 --> 00:21:57,679
Speaker 3: have no street code.

533
00:21:58,160 --> 00:22:00,840
Speaker 2: I am telling I'm not taking time for nobody.

534
00:22:00,960 --> 00:22:03,440
Speaker 3: I ain't I ain't doing it especially, I ain't doing nothing.

535
00:22:03,440 --> 00:22:06,320
Speaker 1: So so women women are allowed. No, No, I think all

536
00:22:06,400 --> 00:22:10,399
Speaker 1: time women are allowed to be snitches. No women allowed

537
00:22:10,400 --> 00:22:13,080
Speaker 1: to stitch. I mean because not all of us want

538
00:22:13,080 --> 00:22:15,240
Speaker 1: to be a down ass a bitch rider anymore. Now

539
00:22:15,280 --> 00:22:18,320
Speaker 1: you get looked as a goofy, Like I think being

540
00:22:18,359 --> 00:22:19,919
Speaker 1: a snitch is better than to being looked at as

541
00:22:19,920 --> 00:22:20,560
Speaker 1: a goofy.

542
00:22:20,760 --> 00:22:21,359
Speaker 3: This is love.

543
00:22:21,440 --> 00:22:24,359
Speaker 6: This is who I love the world because women, women, women,

544
00:22:24,840 --> 00:22:29,439
Speaker 6: This is what She's not wrong, but it's messed up

545
00:22:29,480 --> 00:22:31,360
Speaker 6: because men don't live by the same room.

546
00:22:31,680 --> 00:22:33,600
Speaker 1: You know, because if you say, if you take time

547
00:22:33,640 --> 00:22:36,159
Speaker 1: for a man as a as a woman, even if

548
00:22:36,280 --> 00:22:39,200
Speaker 1: we gonna laugh at your goofy ass for taking time

549
00:22:39,240 --> 00:22:41,320
Speaker 1: for a nigga who probably laid up with another bitch

550
00:22:41,320 --> 00:22:43,200
Speaker 1: anyway about to make a whole new family. There was

551
00:22:43,240 --> 00:22:46,800
Speaker 1: actually a girl that just went on Uh TikTok, ladies,

552
00:22:46,880 --> 00:22:49,960
Speaker 1: stop telling us how your goofies. She went on TikTok

553
00:22:50,000 --> 00:22:52,679
Speaker 1: and shared how she took She took a bid for

554
00:22:52,880 --> 00:22:55,679
Speaker 1: a guy for for some drugs bro. While she was

555
00:22:55,720 --> 00:22:58,640
Speaker 1: locked up, he started fucking her best friend and now

556
00:22:58,640 --> 00:23:00,840
Speaker 1: her best friend pregnant, So she out her best friend

557
00:23:00,840 --> 00:23:02,160
Speaker 1: pregnant with the nigga baby.

558
00:23:02,480 --> 00:23:04,600
Speaker 2: And now she's like, man, I took time for him,

559
00:23:04,800 --> 00:23:05,480
Speaker 2: how dare he?

560
00:23:06,160 --> 00:23:07,679
Speaker 3: Yeah, bit your goof I just want to say this.

561
00:23:07,680 --> 00:23:09,359
Speaker 3: You should let him. I want to say this the

562
00:23:09,400 --> 00:23:09,800
Speaker 3: same way.

563
00:23:09,880 --> 00:23:11,480
Speaker 6: That is, I can say the same thing for do

564
00:23:11,480 --> 00:23:13,760
Speaker 6: you know how many men are in jail for killing

565
00:23:13,800 --> 00:23:17,479
Speaker 6: for a woman that's out here getting real to the mattress,

566
00:23:18,359 --> 00:23:20,600
Speaker 6: like like like kill the nigga because he tried to

567
00:23:20,600 --> 00:23:23,399
Speaker 6: get your woman and or or kill let's take it

568
00:23:23,680 --> 00:23:26,399
Speaker 6: for your little sister who likes street dudes, and you

569
00:23:26,520 --> 00:23:27,920
Speaker 6: kill a dude, you go to jail.

570
00:23:27,960 --> 00:23:30,120
Speaker 3: Now she's with the next street dueh beating her up again.

571
00:23:30,400 --> 00:23:32,480
Speaker 6: So that's like, at what point in time do us

572
00:23:32,520 --> 00:23:36,280
Speaker 6: men stop acting like fucking goofies and going to jail. Like,

573
00:23:36,359 --> 00:23:39,679
Speaker 6: let's be clear, most niggas are criminals because women love criminals.

574
00:23:39,920 --> 00:23:42,879
Speaker 4: No, whoa, whoa, whoa, you should win ahead.

575
00:23:43,640 --> 00:23:45,760
Speaker 3: What listen, let me tell you something. Let me tell

576
00:23:45,760 --> 00:23:48,200
Speaker 3: you something. Criminals hit me out, No, no, hit.

577
00:23:48,119 --> 00:23:51,119
Speaker 6: Me out most most here's the cycle that our culture

578
00:23:51,160 --> 00:23:52,640
Speaker 6: does and you don't want to hear it, but it's

579
00:23:52,640 --> 00:23:52,960
Speaker 6: the truth.

580
00:23:53,040 --> 00:23:54,760
Speaker 3: They like the bad guys.

581
00:23:54,800 --> 00:23:57,200
Speaker 6: They have babies with the bad guys. The bad guys

582
00:23:57,200 --> 00:23:59,120
Speaker 6: turned into terrible baby daddies. Then they get the good

583
00:23:59,119 --> 00:24:01,040
Speaker 6: guys who wanted them, and they was the ship, the

584
00:24:01,080 --> 00:24:03,480
Speaker 6: comeby step daddies, and they celebrate him in society.

585
00:24:03,680 --> 00:24:05,399
Speaker 3: He used the bonus father. He's the great man. You

586
00:24:05,440 --> 00:24:07,879
Speaker 3: didn't want him when you were. You didn't want him

587
00:24:07,880 --> 00:24:09,280
Speaker 3: when he was twenty one. You didn't want to because

588
00:24:09,320 --> 00:24:11,480
Speaker 3: he was lame. You didn't want to because he was lame.

589
00:24:11,640 --> 00:24:13,600
Speaker 3: He women like cool, Mandy.

590
00:24:13,720 --> 00:24:15,360
Speaker 6: You know for a fact you don't want to walk

591
00:24:15,400 --> 00:24:17,040
Speaker 6: in the room with a nigga that's lame as.

592
00:24:17,640 --> 00:24:19,000
Speaker 3: He don't know me. Huh, you don't care.

593
00:24:19,040 --> 00:24:21,280
Speaker 1: Now, My niggas got PhDs. I liked me a little

594
00:24:21,320 --> 00:24:22,560
Speaker 1: like I say that all the time.

595
00:24:23,000 --> 00:24:24,520
Speaker 3: I's not educated.

596
00:24:24,880 --> 00:24:27,600
Speaker 1: I'm telling you now, I don't want no street niggas.

597
00:24:27,800 --> 00:24:31,800
Speaker 1: I was dating this one guy. He he he violated probation.

598
00:24:31,960 --> 00:24:33,359
Speaker 1: I ain't even want I didn't even want to.

599
00:24:33,520 --> 00:24:34,960
Speaker 3: I'm gonna do. I'm gonna do what you about to do.

600
00:24:34,960 --> 00:24:39,560
Speaker 3: I ask you a question, my beautiful question. Yes, go ahead. Yeah.

601
00:24:40,440 --> 00:24:41,960
Speaker 6: I don't want to ask your age because it's to

602
00:24:41,960 --> 00:24:44,800
Speaker 6: ask one. I'm thirty four, okay, thirty four. When you

603
00:24:44,840 --> 00:24:48,119
Speaker 6: were twenty, were you messing with street dudes with the

604
00:24:48,119 --> 00:24:48,920
Speaker 6: PhD guys?

605
00:24:49,000 --> 00:24:51,520
Speaker 2: I was dealing with athletes, millionaires who got it legally.

606
00:24:51,640 --> 00:24:55,920
Speaker 3: Man, you were smart. I was the street. Oh yeah,

607
00:24:55,960 --> 00:24:56,760
Speaker 3: I said smart.

608
00:24:56,800 --> 00:24:58,840
Speaker 2: I was telling Molly to the athletes, to Miami.

609
00:24:58,720 --> 00:24:59,200
Speaker 3: You're smart.

610
00:24:59,200 --> 00:24:59,439
Speaker 4: She was.

611
00:24:59,640 --> 00:25:01,919
Speaker 3: She was a cops came knocking out, but blust him down.

612
00:25:01,760 --> 00:25:03,240
Speaker 1: The toilet, but he ain't come for me, man, So

613
00:25:03,280 --> 00:25:04,920
Speaker 1: then I tried to say to Molly out the toilet

614
00:25:04,960 --> 00:25:05,480
Speaker 1: and still.

615
00:25:05,320 --> 00:25:06,800
Speaker 3: Get them ship talk because I had to get my money.

616
00:25:06,920 --> 00:25:09,399
Speaker 6: Man. Look at this, this stamp, looking at this this

617
00:25:10,480 --> 00:25:13,280
Speaker 6: let's you rug and Mariah.

618
00:25:13,640 --> 00:25:17,120
Speaker 3: That is a true Atlanta story. Ariah is a beautiutiful,

619
00:25:17,160 --> 00:25:18,600
Speaker 3: g educated, educated girl.

620
00:25:18,720 --> 00:25:22,359
Speaker 6: Father is one of the most legendary coaches in southwestern

621
00:25:22,359 --> 00:25:24,800
Speaker 6: cab Here. He has a statue I heard, and she

622
00:25:24,960 --> 00:25:28,600
Speaker 6: comes from a great, great everything. You still end up

623
00:25:28,640 --> 00:25:31,639
Speaker 6: with a street guy because it's just the way. It's like,

624
00:25:31,720 --> 00:25:32,960
Speaker 6: women want to feel protected.

625
00:25:33,240 --> 00:25:34,960
Speaker 3: Street god. It's not not dissing them.

626
00:25:35,080 --> 00:25:37,040
Speaker 6: I'm just saying women want to feel protected and street

627
00:25:37,040 --> 00:25:39,560
Speaker 6: guys make you feel protected when you're twenty three, twenty

628
00:25:39,640 --> 00:25:42,040
Speaker 6: four as a man. That's me, not me telling a woman,

629
00:25:42,040 --> 00:25:43,719
Speaker 6: now take care of my kids. I pay my taxes.

630
00:25:43,760 --> 00:25:44,600
Speaker 6: That's sexy as hell.

631
00:25:44,720 --> 00:25:46,800
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, And I was playing that twenty twenty five.

632
00:25:46,840 --> 00:25:49,000
Speaker 3: It was like, lame, I like the street niggas.

633
00:25:49,000 --> 00:25:49,520
Speaker 2: I'm not gonna lie.

634
00:25:49,560 --> 00:25:54,760
Speaker 1: Mariah's gonna look back at this relationship and be like, girl,

635
00:25:54,760 --> 00:25:55,760
Speaker 1: what the fuck was you thinking?

636
00:25:56,000 --> 00:25:57,600
Speaker 2: Now here's the thing too that I wanted.

637
00:25:57,400 --> 00:25:57,960
Speaker 4: To talk about.

638
00:25:58,040 --> 00:26:02,159
Speaker 1: So it's really, I mean clearly between both of their tweets,

639
00:26:02,160 --> 00:26:05,680
Speaker 1: her posting, her lyrics, they're now broken up alleged I

640
00:26:05,760 --> 00:26:08,560
Speaker 1: feel like she gonna get back with him. But and

641
00:26:08,600 --> 00:26:10,280
Speaker 1: this is why I think they're going to get back together.

642
00:26:10,800 --> 00:26:13,679
Speaker 1: There were leaked text messages between Tasha k and Mariah

643
00:26:13,680 --> 00:26:18,400
Speaker 1: the scientists where Tasha Kay had these tapes last year,

644
00:26:18,600 --> 00:26:22,800
Speaker 1: last October, these tapes were available. These tapes weren't leaked

645
00:26:22,840 --> 00:26:26,400
Speaker 1: to the public, but they were available. Apparently also shout

646
00:26:26,440 --> 00:26:28,639
Speaker 1: out to Laura l Rossa. She brought up and for

647
00:26:28,720 --> 00:26:32,000
Speaker 1: any of y'all with anybody in jail, apparently in Cobb County,

648
00:26:32,040 --> 00:26:34,720
Speaker 1: in Atlanta, anyone can request jail calls.

649
00:26:34,760 --> 00:26:35,760
Speaker 7: You can make the requests, you.

650
00:26:35,680 --> 00:26:36,880
Speaker 3: Can make the requests at.

651
00:26:38,800 --> 00:26:43,120
Speaker 1: Atlanta to listen. You can literally request jail calls. And

652
00:26:43,200 --> 00:26:44,720
Speaker 1: so I'm sure.

653
00:26:44,560 --> 00:26:47,920
Speaker 2: People were just looking for ye and Atlanta will give

654
00:26:47,920 --> 00:26:48,400
Speaker 2: you this ship.

655
00:26:48,480 --> 00:26:51,800
Speaker 1: So apparently thug did have to have his lawyers talk

656
00:26:51,840 --> 00:26:55,159
Speaker 1: to Cob County. They stopped being able to like he

657
00:26:55,200 --> 00:26:57,320
Speaker 1: put a stop for anyone being able to access his

658
00:26:57,400 --> 00:27:00,360
Speaker 1: calls because clearly we heard the leak calls a couple,

659
00:27:00,400 --> 00:27:02,439
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, last year, and so he

660
00:27:02,520 --> 00:27:05,000
Speaker 1: did have a stop on it. However, not before clearly

661
00:27:05,040 --> 00:27:08,679
Speaker 1: they got all this other shit. So allegedly Mariah already

662
00:27:08,760 --> 00:27:11,919
Speaker 1: knew the call with him talking about impregnanting the woman,

663
00:27:12,400 --> 00:27:14,439
Speaker 1: that he was cheating fucking the CEOs. He said the

664
00:27:14,440 --> 00:27:16,160
Speaker 1: CEOs was handing out boxes quicker.

665
00:27:15,960 --> 00:27:21,080
Speaker 2: Than FedEx broke out. That was crazy, that was crazy.

666
00:27:21,280 --> 00:27:24,920
Speaker 1: So she knew that this whole time these calls existed,

667
00:27:25,320 --> 00:27:27,960
Speaker 1: what he did, that he was cheating on her, And

668
00:27:28,000 --> 00:27:30,280
Speaker 1: it wasn't until the whole public knew that then she

669
00:27:30,359 --> 00:27:31,080
Speaker 1: broke up with him.

670
00:27:31,359 --> 00:27:35,400
Speaker 2: So for me, it's like she's embarrassed. Well, and that's

671
00:27:35,400 --> 00:27:36,840
Speaker 2: the thing too a lot of times.

672
00:27:36,840 --> 00:27:39,439
Speaker 1: And this is why I tell everybody they're not really monogamous,

673
00:27:39,480 --> 00:27:41,760
Speaker 1: because y'all be saying what he's cheating ass niggas knowing

674
00:27:41,800 --> 00:27:43,960
Speaker 1: they cheat. That means y'all not monogamous in real life.

675
00:27:44,000 --> 00:27:48,119
Speaker 1: But but the problem is women don't like to be

676
00:27:48,160 --> 00:27:49,119
Speaker 1: publicly embarrassed in.

677
00:27:49,119 --> 00:27:52,000
Speaker 6: Front of other women in front It's not men. Men

678
00:27:52,040 --> 00:27:52,720
Speaker 6: don't give a fuck.

679
00:27:53,040 --> 00:27:55,399
Speaker 2: Okay, Okay, you know what I'm actually not.

680
00:27:55,800 --> 00:27:56,600
Speaker 3: I'm not disagreeing with.

681
00:27:56,600 --> 00:27:58,760
Speaker 6: I spend so much money on purses and things, and

682
00:27:58,840 --> 00:28:00,200
Speaker 6: I'm like, I don't care about that.

683
00:28:00,000 --> 00:28:03,000
Speaker 3: That's it's like, I get it. It's for other women.

684
00:28:03,080 --> 00:28:06,440
Speaker 4: I get it. Let's you a correlation between that.

685
00:28:06,520 --> 00:28:11,000
Speaker 8: And let's say when they say other women like men

686
00:28:11,040 --> 00:28:13,720
Speaker 8: who have other women because they like the girl.

687
00:28:14,000 --> 00:28:16,679
Speaker 3: Listen, man, let me tell you. We are in a

688
00:28:16,720 --> 00:28:18,080
Speaker 3: different society right now.

689
00:28:18,200 --> 00:28:20,280
Speaker 6: And I believe that, Like I'm being honestly because I

690
00:28:20,280 --> 00:28:22,720
Speaker 6: believe that, Like, we are all still in high school.

691
00:28:22,840 --> 00:28:24,520
Speaker 3: Let's just take damn yo.

692
00:28:25,080 --> 00:28:27,119
Speaker 6: Remember in high school, Jason, you got great beer, you

693
00:28:27,480 --> 00:28:29,760
Speaker 6: got out a little bit, you got away from everybody

694
00:28:29,760 --> 00:28:32,160
Speaker 6: for a little bit. They here come Facebook. You're like, oh,

695
00:28:32,320 --> 00:28:35,040
Speaker 6: she's twenty seven, how's life doing. Think about when you

696
00:28:35,119 --> 00:28:37,399
Speaker 6: leave high school at eighteen and nineteen and twenty and

697
00:28:37,400 --> 00:28:38,760
Speaker 6: now we're all still connected.

698
00:28:38,800 --> 00:28:39,520
Speaker 3: We're still we are.

699
00:28:40,280 --> 00:28:43,520
Speaker 6: We're still stuck with like being embarrassed or worried about

700
00:28:43,520 --> 00:28:47,280
Speaker 6: you gotta let that shit go and focus on your happiness.

701
00:28:47,320 --> 00:28:49,280
Speaker 6: That's why I like podcasters, because if we're talking, we

702
00:28:49,320 --> 00:28:50,120
Speaker 6: ain't ready to let it go.

703
00:28:50,160 --> 00:28:52,200
Speaker 3: For we said it out loud. You can't. You can't

704
00:28:52,240 --> 00:28:54,520
Speaker 3: hurt my joy way too much.

705
00:28:55,280 --> 00:28:57,000
Speaker 1: But yeah, I don't know, I think I think her

706
00:28:57,080 --> 00:28:59,680
Speaker 1: being embarrassed publicly is one thing I do think.

707
00:28:59,720 --> 00:29:00,640
Speaker 3: She she goes back.

708
00:29:01,000 --> 00:29:02,840
Speaker 1: I did want to ask you your thoughts on the

709
00:29:02,880 --> 00:29:05,280
Speaker 1: new record, because everyone was like, bro, just put out music.

710
00:29:05,640 --> 00:29:09,000
Speaker 6: He I think that I think that, do you like

711
00:29:09,040 --> 00:29:13,120
Speaker 6: the new record? I think that when the Thugs, superpower

712
00:29:13,240 --> 00:29:16,520
Speaker 6: was mystery right oka. And I think that now that

713
00:29:16,680 --> 00:29:18,920
Speaker 6: you know, like now that they've exposed this part, like

714
00:29:18,960 --> 00:29:21,160
Speaker 6: you know, like him Pillow talking with this woman, I

715
00:29:21,200 --> 00:29:24,200
Speaker 6: think that that is more entertaining right now than the records.

716
00:29:24,680 --> 00:29:25,920
Speaker 3: Yes, I think so.

717
00:29:25,960 --> 00:29:27,680
Speaker 6: I think that I'm not he could have dropped the

718
00:29:27,680 --> 00:29:30,640
Speaker 6: record that was incredible. It's almost like me saying to you, yo, manny,

719
00:29:30,640 --> 00:29:32,640
Speaker 6: everybody walking to my house, Hey, look guys, here's why

720
00:29:32,640 --> 00:29:33,960
Speaker 6: I want everybody to hang out at y'all.

721
00:29:34,000 --> 00:29:36,320
Speaker 3: This is the room for everybody. Don't nobody go in

722
00:29:36,360 --> 00:29:39,160
Speaker 3: that door right there? Yeah, yeah, don't nobody.

723
00:29:39,160 --> 00:29:40,600
Speaker 6: And then they, you know, of course, when I leave

724
00:29:40,640 --> 00:29:42,880
Speaker 6: the room, everybody like, what the fuck is in that doing?

725
00:29:43,320 --> 00:29:44,480
Speaker 3: That's just how the society is.

726
00:29:44,520 --> 00:29:47,000
Speaker 6: So I think we're just more interested in what thugs

727
00:29:47,040 --> 00:29:49,000
Speaker 6: the shit that thug doesn't want us to see than

728
00:29:49,040 --> 00:29:50,600
Speaker 6: the thing that he does right now, And I think

729
00:29:50,640 --> 00:29:52,560
Speaker 6: that that's just the timing thing. So I thought the

730
00:29:52,600 --> 00:29:56,160
Speaker 6: record was good, but I think that the conversations are

731
00:29:56,160 --> 00:29:58,120
Speaker 6: more interesting, and I think that that's what people are

732
00:29:58,160 --> 00:30:00,920
Speaker 6: running to. We have choices now, hmm. Now we have

733
00:30:01,040 --> 00:30:03,480
Speaker 6: choices now, like we can choose whatever. We can listen

734
00:30:03,480 --> 00:30:06,000
Speaker 6: to the song or listen to BTS conversations. I think

735
00:30:06,040 --> 00:30:07,720
Speaker 6: everybody's choosing a BTS conversation.

736
00:30:07,880 --> 00:30:10,360
Speaker 1: I mean, I also just think that the thing that's

737
00:30:10,400 --> 00:30:14,240
Speaker 1: not helping him is that the calls come across like

738
00:30:14,600 --> 00:30:18,560
Speaker 1: bitch ass shit. It's lame essentially, right, I talk because

739
00:30:18,600 --> 00:30:21,360
Speaker 1: here's the thing, right, I've even said it. It's what's

740
00:30:21,360 --> 00:30:25,960
Speaker 1: so great about CARDI. We actually like feeling like we

741
00:30:26,040 --> 00:30:28,800
Speaker 1: could hang or want to be around parts. I agree,

742
00:30:29,000 --> 00:30:32,320
Speaker 1: And so we like relatability when it comes to artists.

743
00:30:32,640 --> 00:30:35,560
Speaker 1: I don't think even though niggas do pillow talk, I

744
00:30:35,560 --> 00:30:39,760
Speaker 1: don't think people want to feel relatable to a him

745
00:30:39,800 --> 00:30:42,280
Speaker 1: just getting out of jail, be him doing all the

746
00:30:42,320 --> 00:30:45,440
Speaker 1: bullshit he did, he done, fell out with everybody. I

747
00:30:45,480 --> 00:30:48,680
Speaker 1: think that's the problem everything about his relatability. Nobody wants

748
00:30:48,680 --> 00:30:50,760
Speaker 1: to relate to. No one wants to be someone that

749
00:30:51,040 --> 00:30:54,440
Speaker 1: almost got locked away for life. Nobody wants to be

750
00:30:54,760 --> 00:30:56,880
Speaker 1: admit to pillow talking, even though men do it. No

751
00:30:56,920 --> 00:30:59,360
Speaker 1: one wants to believe in the way he showed up

752
00:30:59,400 --> 00:31:00,840
Speaker 1: in not support Alady Mariah.

753
00:31:00,880 --> 00:31:02,640
Speaker 2: The women can't even get next to you with it.

754
00:31:02,840 --> 00:31:05,480
Speaker 1: Then you hating on Gunna because you did jail wrong,

755
00:31:05,880 --> 00:31:07,760
Speaker 1: like you were supposed to go to jail come out

756
00:31:07,800 --> 00:31:09,840
Speaker 1: looking better, like you ain't doing no push ups, no

757
00:31:09,920 --> 00:31:11,800
Speaker 1: sit ups. You went in jail and got fat and

758
00:31:11,840 --> 00:31:15,080
Speaker 1: pillow talks. You didn't even do jail right, Gunna did.

759
00:31:15,200 --> 00:31:17,440
Speaker 1: He came out looked better. He looked like a clone

760
00:31:17,520 --> 00:31:19,680
Speaker 1: version of his goddamn self. He came out and dropped

761
00:31:19,680 --> 00:31:22,840
Speaker 1: fire ass music. Everything that he hates Gunna for is

762
00:31:22,880 --> 00:31:24,400
Speaker 1: what he should have been doing in and said, we

763
00:31:24,480 --> 00:31:26,760
Speaker 1: got a sadass song about why he's sorry to everybody.

764
00:31:27,600 --> 00:31:27,880
Speaker 4: Nigga.

765
00:31:28,640 --> 00:31:31,480
Speaker 6: I'm not even you I agree with that part of it. Like, see,

766
00:31:31,480 --> 00:31:34,080
Speaker 6: this is the thing you can't argue that narrative. My

767
00:31:34,200 --> 00:31:37,520
Speaker 6: thing is is when you when you think about the

768
00:31:37,560 --> 00:31:39,800
Speaker 6: fact that he got out after three years, also think

769
00:31:39,840 --> 00:31:41,520
Speaker 6: about the fact that he could have been in there

770
00:31:41,600 --> 00:31:44,000
Speaker 6: still to this day. Okay, right, So it's kind of

771
00:31:44,040 --> 00:31:47,320
Speaker 6: like life's over life's and then like it's almost like

772
00:31:47,360 --> 00:31:48,840
Speaker 6: how thing was like, they took all your money from

773
00:31:48,880 --> 00:31:49,800
Speaker 6: your Manny, So now I'm.

774
00:31:49,680 --> 00:31:52,080
Speaker 3: Like, call Predo. I used to fight that nigga. He

775
00:31:52,200 --> 00:31:55,480
Speaker 3: get Mike ain't giving me five fucking dollars. I'm in jail.

776
00:31:55,800 --> 00:31:57,200
Speaker 3: Mike is dodging the calls. I'm like.

777
00:31:57,320 --> 00:32:00,240
Speaker 6: He was just like, of course your dog, he is

778
00:32:00,280 --> 00:32:03,200
Speaker 6: the boss, and now he only can control the world

779
00:32:03,240 --> 00:32:04,080
Speaker 6: from that phone.

780
00:32:04,400 --> 00:32:05,800
Speaker 3: So that's all he's trying to do.

781
00:32:06,440 --> 00:32:08,400
Speaker 6: He was trying to be the boss control and by

782
00:32:08,440 --> 00:32:11,520
Speaker 6: the way, like I said, I know he did everything right.

783
00:32:12,280 --> 00:32:14,480
Speaker 6: They got him in a puppet. They couldn't do this

784
00:32:14,520 --> 00:32:16,960
Speaker 6: to John Gotty because no one cared. Now because of

785
00:32:17,000 --> 00:32:20,400
Speaker 6: social media. They like, dog, I'm telling you Rap Street

786
00:32:20,480 --> 00:32:22,880
Speaker 6: rapt is dead. They're gonna get us every time you

787
00:32:23,040 --> 00:32:24,560
Speaker 6: because you got Remember he was like, he's also the

788
00:32:24,560 --> 00:32:26,560
Speaker 6: same dude that said he meant that. By the way,

789
00:32:26,600 --> 00:32:28,280
Speaker 6: if we all go to jail for life, whooped the

790
00:32:28,400 --> 00:32:30,480
Speaker 6: damn do? He was willing to do it.

791
00:32:30,680 --> 00:32:32,800
Speaker 3: He was, That's my point. He was he's a different

792
00:32:32,840 --> 00:32:33,280
Speaker 3: level of man.

793
00:32:33,320 --> 00:32:34,680
Speaker 1: And I think that and then guess what he came

794
00:32:34,720 --> 00:32:37,800
Speaker 1: out saying that and Everyone's like, that's what. Hell, no,

795
00:32:37,880 --> 00:32:39,600
Speaker 1: we don't agree with that, But I think that whooped

796
00:32:39,600 --> 00:32:41,480
Speaker 1: the fucking dude. We gonna stay if I go to

797
00:32:41,520 --> 00:32:43,520
Speaker 1: jail for life or go to jail. And everyone's like,

798
00:32:44,120 --> 00:32:47,120
Speaker 1: none of us agree with that, Like we don't live

799
00:32:47,200 --> 00:32:47,520
Speaker 1: that way.

800
00:32:47,560 --> 00:32:50,360
Speaker 3: Broe barbershop too. But he was like, we're gonna go

801
00:32:50,360 --> 00:32:52,600
Speaker 3: to jail. Yeah, and we got done.

802
00:32:52,680 --> 00:32:54,920
Speaker 9: And we got done, except the entertainers like, hell yeah,

803
00:32:55,120 --> 00:33:02,320
Speaker 9: and they ain't gonna die. Like and I think, but

804
00:33:02,400 --> 00:33:04,120
Speaker 9: I think what's gonna happen with Thug is that I

805
00:33:04,160 --> 00:33:06,240
Speaker 9: think Thug is really hurt now because he's like, damn,

806
00:33:06,240 --> 00:33:08,960
Speaker 9: I thought we was all following the same cod.

807
00:33:09,400 --> 00:33:11,640
Speaker 6: And y'all and now y'all let these lanes win. I'm

808
00:33:11,640 --> 00:33:14,320
Speaker 6: telling you, I could see that driving him crazy. But like,

809
00:33:14,360 --> 00:33:16,360
Speaker 6: that's the point he I would tell him, if I

810
00:33:16,400 --> 00:33:16,960
Speaker 6: was with him.

811
00:33:16,840 --> 00:33:17,520
Speaker 3: Let that ship go.

812
00:33:18,480 --> 00:33:22,200
Speaker 6: He got to grow up as much as he was

813
00:33:22,280 --> 00:33:23,160
Speaker 6: raised on whose snitch?

814
00:33:23,480 --> 00:33:24,920
Speaker 3: Those days are done.

815
00:33:24,920 --> 00:33:28,720
Speaker 4: You said, if you was with him, that's the problem.

816
00:33:28,760 --> 00:33:32,000
Speaker 8: A lot of these dudes don't have that ecosystem of

817
00:33:32,000 --> 00:33:33,200
Speaker 8: of confidence and say.

818
00:33:33,400 --> 00:33:35,400
Speaker 1: But they can't because a lot of people that that

819
00:33:35,520 --> 00:33:38,480
Speaker 1: go around men that operate like a thug or that

820
00:33:38,560 --> 00:33:41,280
Speaker 1: wants to be the boss. Essentially, what happens is you

821
00:33:41,400 --> 00:33:43,600
Speaker 1: keep people around you that are your yes man. You

822
00:33:43,720 --> 00:33:47,160
Speaker 1: keep people around you that have to count on you

823
00:33:47,280 --> 00:33:49,320
Speaker 1: for a check to feed their families. So a lot

824
00:33:49,360 --> 00:33:51,280
Speaker 1: of times you're not gonna step up and check somebody

825
00:33:51,280 --> 00:33:53,360
Speaker 1: on what you think is wrong, because it's gonna trickle

826
00:33:53,400 --> 00:33:55,720
Speaker 1: down and have an effect on you. So a lot

827
00:33:55,720 --> 00:33:57,600
Speaker 1: of times, all these men like I ain't gonna get

828
00:33:57,600 --> 00:34:00,880
Speaker 1: into a lot of niggas in this in this industry period,

829
00:34:01,120 --> 00:34:05,920
Speaker 1: I ain't gonna they names, but from from podcasts, ain't shut.

830
00:34:05,720 --> 00:34:08,040
Speaker 4: Up at this point.

831
00:34:08,480 --> 00:34:10,759
Speaker 3: Yeah, at the lunch table right chool.

832
00:34:10,880 --> 00:34:13,280
Speaker 1: All I know is there's a lot of people around

833
00:34:13,320 --> 00:34:17,799
Speaker 1: them and that they men need yes man. I'm gonna

834
00:34:17,880 --> 00:34:20,000
Speaker 1: lead into two men. I don't think we'll really operate

835
00:34:20,080 --> 00:34:21,120
Speaker 1: this much a week man.

836
00:34:21,560 --> 00:34:22,799
Speaker 3: But a lot of these men are weak.

837
00:34:22,840 --> 00:34:24,040
Speaker 2: A lot of them are narcissists.

838
00:34:24,320 --> 00:34:26,399
Speaker 1: You know, all the words that men don't like being

839
00:34:26,400 --> 00:34:28,279
Speaker 1: attached to them, and so a lot of them have

840
00:34:28,400 --> 00:34:31,040
Speaker 1: yes man. Unfortunately, Thug was in a position with a

841
00:34:31,040 --> 00:34:33,279
Speaker 1: lot of yes men, and I think that's really his

842
00:34:33,440 --> 00:34:34,200
Speaker 1: issue with Gunner.

843
00:34:34,320 --> 00:34:36,000
Speaker 3: At the end of the day, Gunner was like, oh, yeah,

844
00:34:36,040 --> 00:34:37,560
Speaker 3: this ain't. I ain't with none of this.

845
00:34:37,719 --> 00:34:40,319
Speaker 2: But I'm not saying yes, no more, this ain't for me.

846
00:34:40,400 --> 00:34:42,120
Speaker 6: Like what you just said. I'm glad you said that.

847
00:34:42,160 --> 00:34:45,200
Speaker 6: See what she said, you said no more. And as

848
00:34:45,239 --> 00:34:47,640
Speaker 6: a man that's used to being leading and calling shots

849
00:34:47,640 --> 00:34:50,160
Speaker 6: and everybody following you, and now the soldiers ain't listening.

850
00:34:50,560 --> 00:34:52,719
Speaker 6: Driving me crazy too if I was that was the

851
00:34:52,760 --> 00:34:55,040
Speaker 6: way you knew life. That's all I'm like, I got.

852
00:34:55,200 --> 00:34:56,920
Speaker 6: That's what I mean by I give people grace, Like

853
00:34:56,960 --> 00:34:59,759
Speaker 6: I'm like, hey, man, I don't know what I was

854
00:34:59,800 --> 00:35:02,000
Speaker 6: doing scenario, but I think I'm looking at I'm like,

855
00:35:02,040 --> 00:35:03,680
Speaker 6: I might not never get out of here all I can.

856
00:35:03,880 --> 00:35:05,799
Speaker 6: Sometimes you just want to make that I just want

857
00:35:05,800 --> 00:35:07,359
Speaker 6: to feel like we on the couch laughing, because that's

858
00:35:07,360 --> 00:35:08,160
Speaker 6: what we might be doing.

859
00:35:08,000 --> 00:35:09,399
Speaker 3: At the house. Man. That Nigga lame was hell.

860
00:35:09,800 --> 00:35:11,200
Speaker 1: I mean, it's a bit of an ego trip too,

861
00:35:11,200 --> 00:35:12,520
Speaker 1: because I think at the end of the day, when

862
00:35:12,560 --> 00:35:15,080
Speaker 1: you a boss, you see yourself as a leader, and

863
00:35:15,760 --> 00:35:17,880
Speaker 1: he can only view himself right now as a failure

864
00:35:17,960 --> 00:35:20,480
Speaker 1: who failed as a leader, who failed as a boss,

865
00:35:20,520 --> 00:35:22,680
Speaker 1: who kind of let a lot of people down.

866
00:35:22,800 --> 00:35:23,359
Speaker 3: And only that.

867
00:35:23,440 --> 00:35:25,680
Speaker 6: The problem that I think he did is a problem

868
00:35:25,719 --> 00:35:27,799
Speaker 6: that a lot of people have with the world is

869
00:35:27,800 --> 00:35:30,120
Speaker 6: when you tell people to be perfect and you're at

870
00:35:30,239 --> 00:35:33,799
Speaker 6: ninety nine percent, you ain't at a hundred. Bro Wanting

871
00:35:33,800 --> 00:35:35,640
Speaker 6: them phone calls was the one thing that exposed you

872
00:35:35,840 --> 00:35:37,239
Speaker 6: that have nothing to do with the trial, nothing to

873
00:35:37,239 --> 00:35:38,719
Speaker 6: do with nothing to do that was the one thing

874
00:35:38,719 --> 00:35:40,279
Speaker 6: that they that was the ninety That was the one

875
00:35:40,320 --> 00:35:42,759
Speaker 6: percent that made you ninety nine, not one hundred. And

876
00:35:42,800 --> 00:35:44,520
Speaker 6: by the way, even if Gunn is eighty five in

877
00:35:44,560 --> 00:35:46,680
Speaker 6: year odds, none of y'all are perfect. And I think

878
00:35:46,760 --> 00:35:49,120
Speaker 6: that's the hard part of accepting, Like damn, Like that's

879
00:35:49,120 --> 00:35:51,600
Speaker 6: how y'all see the world now, Yes, Nigga is different.

880
00:35:51,640 --> 00:35:51,759
Speaker 8: Now.

881
00:35:51,760 --> 00:35:53,440
Speaker 6: It's like it's like that time when you it's like

882
00:35:53,480 --> 00:35:55,840
Speaker 6: some man one day said the F word into another

883
00:35:55,880 --> 00:35:58,120
Speaker 6: gay man, like F word, and everybody looked like, hold

884
00:35:58,160 --> 00:35:59,839
Speaker 6: on here, you go, hold on here, No, no, no, no.

885
00:35:59,840 --> 00:36:03,239
Speaker 6: I'm one of using it as an example that I'm

886
00:36:03,280 --> 00:36:05,560
Speaker 6: saying that it was okay until one man said and

887
00:36:05,560 --> 00:36:08,160
Speaker 6: everybody's like, that's not okay no more, and what and

888
00:36:08,160 --> 00:36:09,799
Speaker 6: that men had to adapt to that, And what I'm

889
00:36:09,800 --> 00:36:11,839
Speaker 6: saying I think that's what's happening to the streets right now,

890
00:36:11,960 --> 00:36:13,719
Speaker 6: because it wasn't like you was trying to I don't.

891
00:36:13,880 --> 00:36:15,359
Speaker 6: I don't think he was trying to be bad as

892
00:36:15,400 --> 00:36:17,600
Speaker 6: just sometimes you grew up hearing shit a certain way,

893
00:36:17,680 --> 00:36:19,960
Speaker 6: like she's a bitch, he's It's like you heard it

894
00:36:20,000 --> 00:36:21,759
Speaker 6: as a kid, you just recited, and now you get

895
00:36:21,760 --> 00:36:23,520
Speaker 6: to this. I'm twenty three, and we don't use that

896
00:36:23,560 --> 00:36:25,319
Speaker 6: word no more like the R word.

897
00:36:25,440 --> 00:36:27,080
Speaker 3: You can't say that. It's like certain words you just

898
00:36:27,080 --> 00:36:29,960
Speaker 3: don't say on record, Like so when I'm mad in society,

899
00:36:30,080 --> 00:36:31,920
Speaker 3: that's actually a word I want. I agree because a

900
00:36:31,960 --> 00:36:33,680
Speaker 3: lot of a lot of the niggas need to be called.

901
00:36:34,000 --> 00:36:37,000
Speaker 4: I really like that it's slowly being accepted now.

902
00:36:37,560 --> 00:36:37,920
Speaker 3: I need it.

903
00:36:39,120 --> 00:36:40,759
Speaker 2: I mean it's bad that I like that's the word.

904
00:36:40,760 --> 00:36:44,680
Speaker 1: And I'm like, what doth not mad undiagnosed biggas walking around?

905
00:36:44,719 --> 00:36:46,600
Speaker 3: We need to be able to call him that's it.

906
00:36:47,000 --> 00:36:50,200
Speaker 5: You might be helping him out and diagno use that's

907
00:36:50,280 --> 00:36:52,840
Speaker 5: the word.

908
00:36:56,480 --> 00:36:57,000
Speaker 4: I like that.

909
00:36:58,719 --> 00:37:01,040
Speaker 1: All right, Well, let's get into this another sports podcast,

910
00:37:01,080 --> 00:37:03,160
Speaker 1: but we're leading a little bit into the sports here

911
00:37:03,200 --> 00:37:06,320
Speaker 1: we go. Let's get it to it. Carmelo Anthony, Dwight Howard,

912
00:37:06,760 --> 00:37:08,640
Speaker 1: super Bird, my more. They just had the Hall of

913
00:37:08,640 --> 00:37:16,040
Speaker 1: Fame for Basketballah. I mean, I'm from Orlando. I was

914
00:37:16,040 --> 00:37:18,520
Speaker 1: a huge fan of the Orlando Magic. Used to used

915
00:37:18,520 --> 00:37:20,480
Speaker 1: to be credential media. When they went all the way

916
00:37:20,520 --> 00:37:24,480
Speaker 1: to the finals and lost to those I was really sad.

917
00:37:25,960 --> 00:37:28,399
Speaker 1: I was credential media in the for the NBA through

918
00:37:28,440 --> 00:37:31,680
Speaker 1: Black Sports Online. Shout out to Robert Littel and yes,

919
00:37:31,840 --> 00:37:33,279
Speaker 1: so I was really excited to see this.

920
00:37:33,560 --> 00:37:36,880
Speaker 2: By the way, backstory, how much I love Carmel Anthony.

921
00:37:36,960 --> 00:37:40,239
Speaker 1: So, Carmelo Anthony wanted Syracuse when I was and I

922
00:37:40,239 --> 00:37:42,400
Speaker 1: think I was in like seventh grade, and when he

923
00:37:42,440 --> 00:37:45,640
Speaker 1: got drafted to the Dinver Nuggets, my mama's boyfriend at

924
00:37:45,640 --> 00:37:49,480
Speaker 1: the time went to Champs Sports was able to get

925
00:37:49,520 --> 00:37:51,960
Speaker 1: me the jersey from the back he knew he knew

926
00:37:51,960 --> 00:37:54,719
Speaker 1: an get Champs. It was before the jerseys came out.

927
00:37:54,960 --> 00:37:57,600
Speaker 1: And when I tell you, I wore that ship to school,

928
00:37:57,840 --> 00:38:01,400
Speaker 1: it was the flyest bitch you hear me. No, but

929
00:38:01,520 --> 00:38:03,400
Speaker 1: I have a picture of me with my Denver Nuggets

930
00:38:03,480 --> 00:38:06,640
Speaker 1: jersey Denver Nuggets poster behind you my whole room. I

931
00:38:06,680 --> 00:38:09,680
Speaker 1: was fifteen in basketball because of mellow like throughout middle

932
00:38:09,680 --> 00:38:13,120
Speaker 1: school and high school. So I really love this well

933
00:38:13,120 --> 00:38:16,040
Speaker 1: deserving of it, I do. I do think his his

934
00:38:16,160 --> 00:38:19,360
Speaker 1: career was tricky because of all of the the hoopla

935
00:38:19,440 --> 00:38:21,640
Speaker 1: around him leaving Denver then coming to New York. I

936
00:38:21,640 --> 00:38:23,839
Speaker 1: think playing in New York is tricky, and I don't

937
00:38:23,840 --> 00:38:26,880
Speaker 1: think they fully surrounded me. I was gonna say they

938
00:38:26,920 --> 00:38:30,120
Speaker 1: never surrounded him in New York with its timing.

939
00:38:30,320 --> 00:38:32,360
Speaker 8: Yeah, like he can't do everything by himself, but what

940
00:38:32,440 --> 00:38:34,239
Speaker 8: he did, his contribution.

941
00:38:34,120 --> 00:38:37,040
Speaker 1: Was dat Yeah, Like I'm trying to think they had

942
00:38:37,040 --> 00:38:38,600
Speaker 1: they have around him, like they played.

943
00:38:41,560 --> 00:38:42,640
Speaker 4: Emon Smer.

944
00:38:43,920 --> 00:38:46,719
Speaker 1: By the way, but he ended up getting injured quite

945
00:38:46,719 --> 00:38:50,160
Speaker 1: a bit, right, And so another bit, I got to

946
00:38:50,200 --> 00:38:52,799
Speaker 1: watch him when he was in high school. So he's

947
00:38:52,800 --> 00:38:55,040
Speaker 1: from Orlando. He went to Cypress Creek. Yeah, so I

948
00:38:55,080 --> 00:38:57,560
Speaker 1: got to watch him play his senior year when I

949
00:38:57,680 --> 00:39:00,640
Speaker 1: was in Orlando. Anyways, going to this is not a

950
00:39:00,640 --> 00:39:02,960
Speaker 1: sports podcast. Oh look, y'all probably surprised.

951
00:39:02,680 --> 00:39:06,359
Speaker 3: I noticed much, Huh. You know what I mean?

952
00:39:06,840 --> 00:39:09,520
Speaker 1: Really being this shit, Well, it's not about whether or

953
00:39:09,560 --> 00:39:11,520
Speaker 1: not Carmela Anthony should have been a Hall of Famer,

954
00:39:12,000 --> 00:39:16,719
Speaker 1: but people have been selectively outraged. I guess at the

955
00:39:16,719 --> 00:39:19,760
Speaker 1: fact that in his acceptance speech he did not think

956
00:39:20,120 --> 00:39:23,840
Speaker 1: his ex wife now La La Anthony and.

957
00:39:23,800 --> 00:39:25,319
Speaker 3: The internet seems split about it.

958
00:39:25,520 --> 00:39:27,200
Speaker 1: I do think it's one of those you damned if

959
00:39:27,200 --> 00:39:29,560
Speaker 1: you do, damned if you don't type of type of scenarios.

960
00:39:30,040 --> 00:39:33,719
Speaker 2: Basically, yeah, let me just ask you.

961
00:39:34,520 --> 00:39:37,680
Speaker 5: He's being for context, it was it was a twenty minute,

962
00:39:36,880 --> 00:39:38,640
Speaker 5: it was Yeah, it was a long.

963
00:39:38,600 --> 00:39:41,000
Speaker 3: Time, a lot of people, a really good spee. But Jason,

964
00:39:41,000 --> 00:39:41,640
Speaker 3: I was about to go there.

965
00:39:41,680 --> 00:39:43,160
Speaker 6: I was about to be like, if La La won

966
00:39:43,280 --> 00:39:46,960
Speaker 6: the Oscar, any man is gonna be mad that she

967
00:39:47,000 --> 00:39:48,520
Speaker 6: didn't think mellow, we don't care.

968
00:39:48,920 --> 00:39:52,040
Speaker 3: Okay, So you think this this was a woman I

969
00:39:52,040 --> 00:39:53,720
Speaker 3: think this is a woman led issue.

970
00:39:53,760 --> 00:39:57,360
Speaker 6: I think every man that understands what is going on knows,

971
00:39:57,400 --> 00:39:59,480
Speaker 6: like as a man, I put like this him and

972
00:39:59,560 --> 00:40:01,319
Speaker 6: him not and her. I just told us where they

973
00:40:01,360 --> 00:40:05,680
Speaker 6: are at that moment. But I would say like and

974
00:40:05,719 --> 00:40:08,120
Speaker 6: like we good. I might be like, but we might

975
00:40:08,120 --> 00:40:09,480
Speaker 6: not be good today. So I don't want to say

976
00:40:09,680 --> 00:40:10,120
Speaker 6: it might.

977
00:40:09,960 --> 00:40:12,120
Speaker 1: Be depending of the time. You're right, because timing thing

978
00:40:12,520 --> 00:40:14,400
Speaker 1: like and they have been co parenting. I love that

979
00:40:14,480 --> 00:40:16,880
Speaker 1: Kayane is going to Syracuse as well, Like I just

980
00:40:16,920 --> 00:40:17,239
Speaker 1: love that.

981
00:40:17,400 --> 00:40:18,640
Speaker 3: I love it.

982
00:40:18,640 --> 00:40:22,120
Speaker 1: It's all the pictures around it, Like it's like, really

983
00:40:22,160 --> 00:40:24,359
Speaker 1: dope seeing that full circle to me. To me, it's

984
00:40:24,400 --> 00:40:28,440
Speaker 1: interesting because I remember talking Jason, Oh that wasn't even

985
00:40:28,440 --> 00:40:32,440
Speaker 1: a full episode, but I remember talking about during the Olympics,

986
00:40:32,680 --> 00:40:36,560
Speaker 1: there were men that chose to propose to their partners

987
00:40:36,600 --> 00:40:39,560
Speaker 1: during the Olympics, And for me, I felt like, as women,

988
00:40:39,920 --> 00:40:41,440
Speaker 1: you're actually in a space.

989
00:40:41,160 --> 00:40:44,319
Speaker 3: Where you are something you worked hard for.

990
00:40:44,760 --> 00:40:47,200
Speaker 1: You should be awarded the medal, you should be awarded

991
00:40:47,239 --> 00:40:49,839
Speaker 1: like the accolades in that moment for that thing, and

992
00:40:49,880 --> 00:40:53,799
Speaker 1: now you're attaching this personal, this personal part of it

993
00:40:53,840 --> 00:40:55,920
Speaker 1: to your life, and I think that's fucked up. So

994
00:40:56,000 --> 00:40:59,600
Speaker 1: for me, it's not like the way she wasn't with

995
00:40:59,680 --> 00:41:02,440
Speaker 1: me she in the gym ship. For me, as an athlete,

996
00:41:02,440 --> 00:41:05,880
Speaker 1: I don't think you have to to, you know, parade

997
00:41:05,920 --> 00:41:07,120
Speaker 1: the women that were in your life.

998
00:41:07,719 --> 00:41:10,480
Speaker 2: I don't his kids, I mean.

999
00:41:10,600 --> 00:41:11,399
Speaker 3: And let's be cool.

1000
00:41:11,440 --> 00:41:13,839
Speaker 6: But also the little girl being there was the controversial

1001
00:41:13,920 --> 00:41:16,759
Speaker 6: child because everybody that word on the street was that

1002
00:41:17,080 --> 00:41:19,600
Speaker 6: was what broke them up, right, No, no, no, no, I

1003
00:41:19,640 --> 00:41:20,880
Speaker 6: don't know.

1004
00:41:19,960 --> 00:41:20,800
Speaker 3: I don't I don't know.

1005
00:41:20,920 --> 00:41:24,000
Speaker 1: The word on the street is that that little girl

1006
00:41:24,239 --> 00:41:26,920
Speaker 1: happened six seven years ago. What broke them up is

1007
00:41:27,080 --> 00:41:29,080
Speaker 1: he allegedly has two more twins.

1008
00:41:29,400 --> 00:41:33,839
Speaker 3: Oh okay, that's what No, no, no, it's not insider ship.

1009
00:41:36,800 --> 00:41:38,360
Speaker 2: I love Mellow, I love Mellow.

1010
00:41:38,680 --> 00:41:41,120
Speaker 1: I shout out to seven people in Brooklyn, love everything

1011
00:41:41,120 --> 00:41:44,399
Speaker 1: he's doing. This is a public thing that allegedly broke

1012
00:41:44,400 --> 00:41:47,240
Speaker 1: them up. So there were text messages and things because

1013
00:41:48,640 --> 00:41:52,040
Speaker 1: the woman is in London and apparently he tried to

1014
00:41:52,040 --> 00:41:53,160
Speaker 1: give her money for an abortion.

1015
00:41:53,600 --> 00:41:56,120
Speaker 2: She didn't have it. And then I think the kids.

1016
00:41:56,480 --> 00:41:59,640
Speaker 1: There's some like health problems with with the twins, and

1017
00:41:59,719 --> 00:42:01,399
Speaker 1: he's like not trying to be involved at all.

1018
00:42:01,640 --> 00:42:03,960
Speaker 3: This is all on the internet. She leaked the information.

1019
00:42:04,239 --> 00:42:06,359
Speaker 1: So that's apparently the straw that broke the camel's back

1020
00:42:06,360 --> 00:42:09,000
Speaker 1: with this relationship because he did have an affair baby

1021
00:42:09,239 --> 00:42:12,839
Speaker 1: they continued in their marriage. But then there's the two

1022
00:42:12,880 --> 00:42:15,440
Speaker 1: other kids right now. Yeah, there's a there's more a

1023
00:42:15,560 --> 00:42:20,600
Speaker 1: fair babies. So that's apparently what that's what they call

1024
00:42:20,719 --> 00:42:21,600
Speaker 1: the fair babies.

1025
00:42:22,200 --> 00:42:27,520
Speaker 3: If you have babies referred to my child.

1026
00:42:29,680 --> 00:42:34,520
Speaker 6: First of my baby, I'm fighting on spot child.

1027
00:42:35,480 --> 00:42:38,800
Speaker 8: Child imagine introduced you get to the third one. But oh,

1028
00:42:38,880 --> 00:42:39,840
Speaker 8: that's the fair baby.

1029
00:42:40,160 --> 00:42:41,839
Speaker 3: I mean, hold on, this is what is that one?

1030
00:42:41,840 --> 00:42:42,359
Speaker 3: Oh that's the one.

1031
00:42:42,640 --> 00:42:45,120
Speaker 1: This is what people are talking about, Like, this is

1032
00:42:45,120 --> 00:42:47,680
Speaker 1: what they're going to be referred to. I bet you

1033
00:42:47,680 --> 00:42:51,560
Speaker 1: a Lalla family know a fair baby, right like like

1034
00:42:51,800 --> 00:42:54,040
Speaker 1: Lalla is like the mad my kids, they they ain't

1035
00:42:54,040 --> 00:42:56,759
Speaker 1: a part of like my relationship with this man. Them

1036
00:42:56,800 --> 00:43:00,279
Speaker 1: ain't even Cayne's siblings. God damn it, like them the

1037
00:43:00,280 --> 00:43:01,160
Speaker 1: affair of babies.

1038
00:43:01,719 --> 00:43:09,200
Speaker 8: But anyway, yeah, Kimla with two phrases, undiagnosed, your baby is.

1039
00:43:09,600 --> 00:43:13,120
Speaker 1: Already a word that said, we're not gonna do that anyways. Basically,

1040
00:43:13,680 --> 00:43:17,319
Speaker 1: me and and Ray actually sit here in agreement. It's

1041
00:43:17,320 --> 00:43:19,319
Speaker 1: not a big deal that Mellow did not mention La

1042
00:43:19,400 --> 00:43:22,120
Speaker 1: La congratulations to Melo often congratulations.

1043
00:43:22,160 --> 00:43:24,279
Speaker 3: I think he mentions her all the time otherwise, and

1044
00:43:24,320 --> 00:43:25,000
Speaker 3: by what he does.

1045
00:43:25,040 --> 00:43:27,160
Speaker 5: When I used to work with him and his son

1046
00:43:27,200 --> 00:43:29,200
Speaker 5: will come around, he'd be like, you know, don't don't

1047
00:43:29,239 --> 00:43:31,120
Speaker 5: forget your mother said this. Your mother said that, don't

1048
00:43:31,120 --> 00:43:32,600
Speaker 5: be doing that because you know how your mother gets

1049
00:43:32,880 --> 00:43:34,440
Speaker 5: like And then they did an episode together when he

1050
00:43:34,440 --> 00:43:36,960
Speaker 5: announced they did do they did, and they made sure

1051
00:43:37,160 --> 00:43:39,239
Speaker 5: they sat down, and then they got back up to

1052
00:43:39,280 --> 00:43:40,360
Speaker 5: hug each other because they were like.

1053
00:43:40,360 --> 00:43:42,560
Speaker 2: Were you were you a part of producing that episode?

1054
00:43:42,719 --> 00:43:43,760
Speaker 7: I wasn't on that episode.

1055
00:43:43,760 --> 00:43:45,239
Speaker 3: Okay, okay, okay. You know that.

1056
00:43:46,760 --> 00:43:48,400
Speaker 5: They stood back up to hug each other because they

1057
00:43:48,440 --> 00:43:49,480
Speaker 5: knew how the internet would be.

1058
00:43:49,600 --> 00:43:51,440
Speaker 3: I mean, and I will say he knew the internet

1059
00:43:51,520 --> 00:43:53,160
Speaker 3: is high school. They knew how high school wuld be

1060
00:43:53,160 --> 00:43:54,720
Speaker 3: because they.

1061
00:43:54,239 --> 00:43:56,640
Speaker 2: But Mellow does often talk about like how great of

1062
00:43:56,680 --> 00:43:57,280
Speaker 2: a mom.

1063
00:43:58,800 --> 00:44:01,640
Speaker 6: Literally literally, and she does the same fact, and as

1064
00:44:01,680 --> 00:44:04,000
Speaker 6: long as Lala's not out there screaming about it, why

1065
00:44:04,080 --> 00:44:04,839
Speaker 6: is anybody else?

1066
00:44:05,120 --> 00:44:07,239
Speaker 1: Because the only thing Laala was was holding up her

1067
00:44:07,280 --> 00:44:13,279
Speaker 1: phone at the game, like.

1068
00:44:11,160 --> 00:44:12,720
Speaker 2: Like if Lola has something to say.

1069
00:44:12,600 --> 00:44:16,359
Speaker 4: If she was a time she was like, oh ship

1070
00:44:16,440 --> 00:44:17,680
Speaker 4: any day now this is about to go.

1071
00:44:17,920 --> 00:44:19,680
Speaker 1: But that's why I think they worked through that, and

1072
00:44:19,719 --> 00:44:21,520
Speaker 1: I think that there's still a level of respect. But

1073
00:44:21,640 --> 00:44:24,480
Speaker 1: I do think for this moment, for what basketball has

1074
00:44:24,520 --> 00:44:29,280
Speaker 1: meant in Mellow's life, mentioning Laala wasn't that necessary.

1075
00:44:29,680 --> 00:44:31,120
Speaker 2: And also I want to let y'all go to cool.

1076
00:44:31,360 --> 00:44:33,879
Speaker 1: We're not even gonna talk about him shouting out Puerto Rico.

1077
00:44:34,000 --> 00:44:35,560
Speaker 1: Y'all get on my goddamn nerves. If you want to

1078
00:44:35,560 --> 00:44:38,520
Speaker 1: shout out, motherfucker Puerto Rico, let him. He's a he's

1079
00:44:38,560 --> 00:44:41,439
Speaker 1: a biracial, he's Puerto Rican. He blacks, and y'all don't

1080
00:44:41,440 --> 00:44:43,239
Speaker 1: want to let that man shout out Puto Rico.

1081
00:44:44,040 --> 00:44:45,000
Speaker 4: Would like to have a word.

1082
00:44:45,760 --> 00:44:48,279
Speaker 1: That ship was so annoying. He got the Puerto Rican

1083
00:44:48,320 --> 00:44:52,080
Speaker 1: flag tattered on him. Let him run, he writes. Some beingis,

1084
00:44:52,120 --> 00:44:54,200
Speaker 1: let the nigga shout out Puerto Rico. And I think

1085
00:44:54,200 --> 00:44:55,799
Speaker 1: he does have a court in Puerto Rico. He has

1086
00:44:55,800 --> 00:44:58,640
Speaker 1: a basketball court out there right, So like he goes

1087
00:44:58,719 --> 00:44:59,920
Speaker 1: out there in the hood.

1088
00:45:00,040 --> 00:45:03,040
Speaker 8: He contributes to Baltimore, he contributes to Puerto Rico, he

1089
00:45:03,040 --> 00:45:03,960
Speaker 8: contributes to Brooklyn.

1090
00:45:05,400 --> 00:45:08,520
Speaker 3: He is and I think they in the way high

1091
00:45:08,560 --> 00:45:09,040
Speaker 3: school goes.

1092
00:45:09,080 --> 00:45:10,759
Speaker 6: We gotta find something wrong with him. So he didn't

1093
00:45:10,760 --> 00:45:13,640
Speaker 6: thank his girlfriend for three years ago. He is like

1094
00:45:14,120 --> 00:45:14,680
Speaker 6: high school bro.

1095
00:45:15,120 --> 00:45:17,080
Speaker 9: Every time I'm reference high school, I'm just gonna tell

1096
00:45:17,080 --> 00:45:18,000
Speaker 9: you this is high school ship.

1097
00:45:18,120 --> 00:45:19,040
Speaker 3: But you're not wrong.

1098
00:45:19,160 --> 00:45:24,279
Speaker 4: Going to do a new podcast. Think we got that

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00:45:24,680 --> 00:45:26,200
Speaker 4: we should do what it is.

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00:45:26,239 --> 00:45:29,120
Speaker 1: We have lunch table high school, all right, Well this

1101
00:45:29,120 --> 00:45:31,480
Speaker 1: this next person wouldn't have been at our lunch table.

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00:45:31,920 --> 00:45:36,399
Speaker 1: Let's talk about right wing conservative recently shot and killed

1103
00:45:36,480 --> 00:45:41,239
Speaker 1: Charlie Kirk, who died in Utah. I will say at

1104
00:45:41,320 --> 00:45:43,560
Speaker 1: least he died doing what he loves. He was talking

1105
00:45:43,560 --> 00:45:46,759
Speaker 1: about black people and guns. So literally give it up

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00:45:46,800 --> 00:45:49,600
Speaker 1: for him for dying doing what he loves to do.

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00:45:50,640 --> 00:45:57,799
Speaker 1: Oh his last words, we're talking about how.

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00:45:57,000 --> 00:45:57,720
Speaker 2: It was crazy.

1109
00:45:58,000 --> 00:45:58,640
Speaker 3: We're gonna.

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00:46:00,520 --> 00:46:04,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, basically Charlie Kirk, which, by the way, when it happened,

1111
00:46:04,560 --> 00:46:06,520
Speaker 1: I was recording my radio show.

1112
00:46:06,360 --> 00:46:08,759
Speaker 2: Now on Hot one on seven night. You know, we

1113
00:46:08,760 --> 00:46:11,600
Speaker 2: were recording and my producer med was like, Charlie Kirk

1114
00:46:11,600 --> 00:46:11,880
Speaker 2: does that?

1115
00:46:11,920 --> 00:46:13,560
Speaker 1: And I said, who. I don't know these white people.

1116
00:46:13,960 --> 00:46:16,080
Speaker 1: And I didn't know really anything about him. However, I

1117
00:46:16,120 --> 00:46:19,920
Speaker 1: did see his content with Jubilee the twenty v one,

1118
00:46:20,280 --> 00:46:22,239
Speaker 1: and I was like, oh, mind you. And the only

1119
00:46:22,280 --> 00:46:23,839
Speaker 1: reason why I saw it was he was the one

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00:46:23,840 --> 00:46:27,879
Speaker 1: who was pro life, which also pro guns and pro life.

1121
00:46:28,000 --> 00:46:30,440
Speaker 1: Very interesting when you're saying everyone deserves to die, but

1122
00:46:30,520 --> 00:46:33,560
Speaker 1: yet these fetuses really interesting. Basically a little bit about

1123
00:46:33,600 --> 00:46:35,400
Speaker 1: him for y'all who don't know, because I didn't know much.

1124
00:46:35,480 --> 00:46:36,640
Speaker 3: He was a college dropout.

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00:46:36,680 --> 00:46:40,200
Speaker 1: He founded Turning Points to USA, a nonprofit that did

1126
00:46:40,239 --> 00:46:42,840
Speaker 1: most of their work on college campuses to push.

1127
00:46:42,680 --> 00:46:44,080
Speaker 3: A conservative.

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00:46:45,280 --> 00:46:48,759
Speaker 5: Young from donors. It's not like he just started on

1129
00:46:48,760 --> 00:46:51,160
Speaker 5: his own. He got He got a bag from other

1130
00:46:51,160 --> 00:46:51,719
Speaker 5: people to start.

1131
00:46:51,880 --> 00:46:54,680
Speaker 1: And this is an interesting part too. He wasn't a politician.

1132
00:46:54,880 --> 00:46:58,000
Speaker 1: He actually wasn't much different than Ray and I. He

1133
00:46:58,080 --> 00:47:02,520
Speaker 1: was a person who pushed hiss to the masses. So

1134
00:47:03,040 --> 00:47:06,600
Speaker 1: I will I will say no one deserves to die,

1135
00:47:06,760 --> 00:47:09,279
Speaker 1: get killed, get shot for having an opinion. For as

1136
00:47:09,320 --> 00:47:11,000
Speaker 1: long as we have the First Amendment, For as long

1137
00:47:11,040 --> 00:47:12,680
Speaker 1: as I get paid to send a mother in front

1138
00:47:12,680 --> 00:47:14,480
Speaker 1: of a mic and have y'all mad about my opinions,

1139
00:47:14,800 --> 00:47:17,480
Speaker 1: I'll never say that anyone who has a differing opinion

1140
00:47:17,520 --> 00:47:19,840
Speaker 1: than me deserves to be shot and killed. Ever, like

1141
00:47:19,920 --> 00:47:22,399
Speaker 1: niggad do live shows, I need y'all to know I'm

1142
00:47:22,440 --> 00:47:23,600
Speaker 1: here for a bit, to be a hose and if

1143
00:47:23,600 --> 00:47:24,920
Speaker 1: you don't believe it, don't come to kill me.

1144
00:47:25,520 --> 00:47:26,839
Speaker 2: So not gonna say that.

1145
00:47:26,880 --> 00:47:30,480
Speaker 1: However, However, I want to talk about the lack of

1146
00:47:30,480 --> 00:47:34,799
Speaker 1: comprehension skills in the US of A. Because blacks are

1147
00:47:34,800 --> 00:47:36,279
Speaker 1: mad at the blacks, blacks are bad at the whites,

1148
00:47:36,320 --> 00:47:40,480
Speaker 1: Whites are now mad at everybody. There is a difference

1149
00:47:40,520 --> 00:47:44,480
Speaker 1: between having no empathy and not giving a fuck if

1150
00:47:44,480 --> 00:47:48,279
Speaker 1: someone dies and celebrating a death. I don't think that

1151
00:47:48,360 --> 00:47:50,600
Speaker 1: we're out here throwing parties because this man got killed,

1152
00:47:50,640 --> 00:47:53,239
Speaker 1: because a lot of us didn't care about this man.

1153
00:47:53,840 --> 00:47:56,080
Speaker 1: He didn't lean into having the same thoughts or views

1154
00:47:56,120 --> 00:47:58,560
Speaker 1: of us. He pushed a narrative that we felt the

1155
00:47:58,640 --> 00:48:01,320
Speaker 1: need to combat, which is what a democracy.

1156
00:48:00,880 --> 00:48:03,960
Speaker 4: Is some of us. Because you think.

1157
00:48:03,800 --> 00:48:05,839
Speaker 2: People are out here celebrating like they're gonna go dance

1158
00:48:05,880 --> 00:48:06,600
Speaker 2: on a man grave, you.

1159
00:48:06,520 --> 00:48:08,440
Speaker 8: Know, I'm saying some of us. There's some of us

1160
00:48:08,480 --> 00:48:10,520
Speaker 8: who did empathize with it.

1161
00:48:10,719 --> 00:48:13,400
Speaker 7: What are your thoughts?

1162
00:48:11,480 --> 00:48:14,520
Speaker 2: You can I ask y'all thoughts.

1163
00:48:14,560 --> 00:48:16,920
Speaker 1: Are y'all mad at the black folks outside of kandas

1164
00:48:16,960 --> 00:48:19,600
Speaker 1: Owns because apparently that was her bestie. Are y'all mad

1165
00:48:19,600 --> 00:48:23,400
Speaker 1: at black folks having empathy or showing remorse or caring

1166
00:48:23,600 --> 00:48:24,040
Speaker 1: about this?

1167
00:48:24,320 --> 00:48:26,800
Speaker 6: I think I think black people, I think our cultures

1168
00:48:26,840 --> 00:48:29,319
Speaker 6: a whole needs empathy more than anything. I think that's

1169
00:48:29,320 --> 00:48:31,359
Speaker 6: why we're so hard on each other. It's because that's

1170
00:48:31,400 --> 00:48:33,640
Speaker 6: why we're so angry with each other. Because it's like

1171
00:48:33,680 --> 00:48:35,399
Speaker 6: when you're in the hood and you they don't give

1172
00:48:35,400 --> 00:48:36,840
Speaker 6: a fuck. If you're poor, they're gonna laugh at you,

1173
00:48:36,840 --> 00:48:38,319
Speaker 6: they're gonna point at you, they're gonna fuck with you.

1174
00:48:38,640 --> 00:48:42,799
Speaker 6: So I think that we're all tired of as a coach.

1175
00:48:42,880 --> 00:48:45,399
Speaker 6: We got to stop that, we all need to end

1176
00:48:45,400 --> 00:48:45,880
Speaker 6: that part of it.

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00:48:45,920 --> 00:48:48,280
Speaker 2: I'm sorry, but wait, we shouldn't empathize our presses.

1178
00:48:48,440 --> 00:48:50,040
Speaker 3: No, no, no, no, no, we don't.

1179
00:48:50,080 --> 00:48:52,160
Speaker 2: We don't need to show empathy for.

1180
00:48:52,120 --> 00:48:56,399
Speaker 6: People at each other, like I'm talking about to each other,

1181
00:48:56,480 --> 00:48:58,879
Speaker 6: like even how we how our music is violent, how

1182
00:48:59,040 --> 00:49:00,719
Speaker 6: it's like it doesn't matter and it's like that's them

1183
00:49:00,760 --> 00:49:01,160
Speaker 6: over there.

1184
00:49:01,280 --> 00:49:03,120
Speaker 3: No, that's still people that look like us.

1185
00:49:03,480 --> 00:49:06,279
Speaker 1: So then so then do you think that there is

1186
00:49:06,320 --> 00:49:09,400
Speaker 1: a problem with the people calling out other black people

1187
00:49:09,440 --> 00:49:10,840
Speaker 1: for not showing empathy.

1188
00:49:10,719 --> 00:49:14,200
Speaker 6: Like I'm a king, I'm gonna say what I said

1189
00:49:14,200 --> 00:49:16,640
Speaker 6: again about high school where there are people in high school.

1190
00:49:16,640 --> 00:49:18,640
Speaker 6: We didn't like Jason, Yes, you know, we didn't like

1191
00:49:18,760 --> 00:49:20,839
Speaker 6: him because we didn't understand that in a couple of years,

1192
00:49:20,880 --> 00:49:23,520
Speaker 6: we don't have to live with these people anymore. Social

1193
00:49:23,560 --> 00:49:25,319
Speaker 6: media has made us think that we have to live

1194
00:49:25,360 --> 00:49:27,160
Speaker 6: with each other. So that's what makes us hate each other.

1195
00:49:27,440 --> 00:49:28,799
Speaker 6: We don't have to live with each other.

1196
00:49:28,840 --> 00:49:29,800
Speaker 3: Like I got.

1197
00:49:29,600 --> 00:49:32,160
Speaker 6: Neighbors next to me. I know one neighbor because she's

1198
00:49:32,160 --> 00:49:34,080
Speaker 6: a famous actress. With the other neighbor, I don't know them, man,

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00:49:34,080 --> 00:49:34,600
Speaker 6: I don't tell them.

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00:49:35,719 --> 00:49:38,200
Speaker 3: I don't talk about the neighborhood. You live in the neighbor,

1201
00:49:38,200 --> 00:49:40,480
Speaker 3: not the neighborhood. I'm saying. My neighbor is a famous actress,

1202
00:49:40,520 --> 00:49:41,600
Speaker 3: so I know her.

1203
00:49:41,719 --> 00:49:45,080
Speaker 1: He said, just my block got the money.

1204
00:49:45,719 --> 00:49:47,560
Speaker 4: He don't talk to people they make less than him.

1205
00:49:47,600 --> 00:49:49,080
Speaker 3: You know what I mean? That's you said that.

1206
00:49:49,400 --> 00:49:52,520
Speaker 2: You said, I a'ting to argue with nobody who makes less.

1207
00:49:52,360 --> 00:49:57,040
Speaker 6: Mean I'm not gonna not to talk. It's differently not argue.

1208
00:49:57,040 --> 00:49:59,160
Speaker 6: It is a wasted emotion for me talking. I'll talk

1209
00:49:59,200 --> 00:50:02,319
Speaker 6: to anybody, but I'm not about life. If you ain't made,

1210
00:50:02,360 --> 00:50:04,920
Speaker 6: you ain't built nothing yet. You haven't built anything yet,

1211
00:50:05,040 --> 00:50:06,719
Speaker 6: have you done? Now?

1212
00:50:06,760 --> 00:50:09,400
Speaker 1: I did want to ask you your thoughts only because

1213
00:50:09,480 --> 00:50:11,640
Speaker 1: you did sit here. I'm gonna call you purple, but

1214
00:50:11,680 --> 00:50:14,440
Speaker 1: you lean a little bit more red and blue. So

1215
00:50:16,200 --> 00:50:19,239
Speaker 1: and Jason correct me if I say anything wrong here.

1216
00:50:19,320 --> 00:50:23,279
Speaker 1: Pretty much within seventy two hours of them finding the

1217
00:50:24,200 --> 00:50:31,360
Speaker 1: white Christian Republican killer of this man who also engraved

1218
00:50:31,360 --> 00:50:34,240
Speaker 1: the bullets, which I thought was crazy. They have sought

1219
00:50:34,280 --> 00:50:37,120
Speaker 1: to seek the death penalty for him, and there's pretty

1220
00:50:37,200 --> 00:50:37,880
Speaker 1: much no trial.

1221
00:50:38,080 --> 00:50:40,080
Speaker 2: And mind you, for a lot of.

1222
00:50:40,080 --> 00:50:43,800
Speaker 1: Things in any other instance, whether it be a mass shooting,

1223
00:50:43,960 --> 00:50:48,120
Speaker 1: whether it be a police officer, they often seek innocent

1224
00:50:48,520 --> 00:50:51,520
Speaker 1: until proven guilty. They seek trials, and now this is

1225
00:50:51,600 --> 00:50:54,719
Speaker 1: completely done differently. Also, can we play the clip from

1226
00:50:54,800 --> 00:50:56,520
Speaker 1: the Utah governor and what he had.

1227
00:50:56,400 --> 00:51:02,400
Speaker 3: To say right here, because this was a little crazy.

1228
00:51:02,400 --> 00:51:04,399
Speaker 3: I didn't even hold you. He went in.

1229
00:51:06,440 --> 00:51:10,759
Speaker 10: For thirty three hours. I was I was praying that

1230
00:51:11,480 --> 00:51:14,120
Speaker 10: if this had to happen here, that it wouldn't be

1231
00:51:14,160 --> 00:51:18,280
Speaker 10: one of us, that somebody drove from another state, somebody

1232
00:51:18,320 --> 00:51:21,799
Speaker 10: came from another country. Sadly that that that prayer was

1233
00:51:21,840 --> 00:51:23,880
Speaker 10: not answered the way I had hoped for.

1234
00:51:26,160 --> 00:51:30,200
Speaker 1: He said he waited thirty three hours to speak, hoping

1235
00:51:30,760 --> 00:51:32,960
Speaker 1: it wasn't one of quote unquote us.

1236
00:51:33,560 --> 00:51:34,279
Speaker 3: He said, I was.

1237
00:51:34,200 --> 00:51:37,279
Speaker 7: Hoping it was, but it wasn't somebody from this state.

1238
00:51:37,360 --> 00:51:40,400
Speaker 7: And I was hoping it was somebody from this country because.

1239
00:51:40,160 --> 00:51:41,320
Speaker 3: You don't want the other mayors.

1240
00:51:41,600 --> 00:51:44,080
Speaker 6: He don't want the other governors on social media saying

1241
00:51:44,280 --> 00:51:45,920
Speaker 6: y'all need to come here of my state, because look

1242
00:51:45,920 --> 00:51:46,759
Speaker 6: what he did to his state.

1243
00:51:46,800 --> 00:51:48,000
Speaker 3: I'm telling you it's in high school.

1244
00:51:48,000 --> 00:51:49,520
Speaker 4: Shit, Yeah, where's the National Guard?

1245
00:51:49,640 --> 00:51:52,160
Speaker 6: Like like like it's a high school shit, Like I'm

1246
00:51:52,320 --> 00:51:53,640
Speaker 6: embarrassed as one of y'all.

1247
00:51:53,840 --> 00:51:55,160
Speaker 1: Like that's what we Wait, wait, what do you mean,

1248
00:51:55,200 --> 00:51:57,600
Speaker 1: embarrass one of y'all. I'll be honest with you, and hey,

1249
00:51:57,680 --> 00:51:58,799
Speaker 1: y'all correct me if I'm wrong.

1250
00:51:58,920 --> 00:51:59,640
Speaker 2: Check the SATs.

1251
00:52:00,040 --> 00:52:04,000
Speaker 1: Almost every goddamn school shooter that lives Columbine been a

1252
00:52:04,040 --> 00:52:06,880
Speaker 1: white Christian gun toe in white.

1253
00:52:08,680 --> 00:52:08,919
Speaker 4: Around.

1254
00:52:12,239 --> 00:52:16,640
Speaker 1: No, I didn't was insane, But that's what I'm saying.

1255
00:52:15,680 --> 00:52:21,040
Speaker 1: So for white for for Republicans, politicians who want all

1256
00:52:21,080 --> 00:52:23,120
Speaker 1: these gun laws and all these things, who think that

1257
00:52:23,520 --> 00:52:27,600
Speaker 1: black people are thumbs and Mexicans are the problems they

1258
00:52:27,640 --> 00:52:28,840
Speaker 1: worried about.

1259
00:52:29,000 --> 00:52:31,560
Speaker 3: Telling you, it's the it's normally.

1260
00:52:32,600 --> 00:52:37,080
Speaker 1: White boys from Middle America taking these goddamn guns to

1261
00:52:37,080 --> 00:52:37,880
Speaker 1: the schools shooting.

1262
00:52:37,880 --> 00:52:39,759
Speaker 3: Okay, let me clear. I want to tell you something.

1263
00:52:40,000 --> 00:52:43,480
Speaker 6: Charlie Kirk is and remember this day, Charlie Kirk, his

1264
00:52:43,560 --> 00:52:45,760
Speaker 6: death is going to mean it's like Tupac's.

1265
00:52:45,320 --> 00:52:47,839
Speaker 3: Death the black folk. I'll stop it, y'all. Look that

1266
00:52:47,880 --> 00:52:49,240
Speaker 3: man finished that.

1267
00:52:50,480 --> 00:52:54,080
Speaker 6: Listen to me, that man is considered Tupac to that

1268
00:52:54,160 --> 00:52:56,640
Speaker 6: maga world. He was the young they thought he was

1269
00:52:56,680 --> 00:52:58,319
Speaker 6: going to be the next president. He was the one

1270
00:52:58,320 --> 00:53:00,319
Speaker 6: they was lining up to be the pre go look

1271
00:53:00,320 --> 00:53:02,360
Speaker 6: at Cannae and saying, he's gonna absolutely be the president

1272
00:53:02,400 --> 00:53:05,080
Speaker 6: of the United States. Trump is funding him. He was

1273
00:53:05,160 --> 00:53:08,239
Speaker 6: the face of bringing going to think about this, think

1274
00:53:08,280 --> 00:53:09,800
Speaker 6: about this at the age of thirty.

1275
00:53:09,840 --> 00:53:11,000
Speaker 3: You can't do that at fifty.

1276
00:53:11,440 --> 00:53:15,439
Speaker 1: I was gonna, say ninety three.

1277
00:53:15,680 --> 00:53:18,320
Speaker 6: Coming to college campuses where you're a few not twenty

1278
00:53:18,360 --> 00:53:20,239
Speaker 6: thirty years, you're a couple of years older, and you're

1279
00:53:20,320 --> 00:53:23,280
Speaker 6: arguing like an old fashionst white man about the country.

1280
00:53:23,440 --> 00:53:26,759
Speaker 6: He was to Tupac to them, They're not gonna let this.

1281
00:53:26,960 --> 00:53:30,839
Speaker 6: So what happened was and what happened was exactly He's

1282
00:53:30,840 --> 00:53:32,160
Speaker 6: the person that brought in the young folks.

1283
00:53:32,160 --> 00:53:33,960
Speaker 3: He's ushering the young folks. Wow, I don't think I

1284
00:53:34,040 --> 00:53:35,239
Speaker 3: knew that he was.

1285
00:53:35,760 --> 00:53:37,560
Speaker 6: Did y'all not see how many people was out there

1286
00:53:37,560 --> 00:53:39,400
Speaker 6: to hear him argue with kids.

1287
00:53:39,600 --> 00:53:41,920
Speaker 3: He is the park of the Republican Party.

1288
00:53:42,120 --> 00:53:44,680
Speaker 6: I believe that they're going to they're going to I'm

1289
00:53:44,719 --> 00:53:47,399
Speaker 6: not They're going to martyr him like we've never seen

1290
00:53:47,440 --> 00:53:48,279
Speaker 6: before now.

1291
00:53:48,320 --> 00:53:49,320
Speaker 2: About to be Fred Hampton.

1292
00:53:49,440 --> 00:53:52,520
Speaker 3: Oh no, oh no, he is that him. He's popped.

1293
00:53:53,280 --> 00:53:58,800
Speaker 8: And they're allegedly mentoring that kid who during the riots

1294
00:53:58,800 --> 00:54:00,760
Speaker 8: in Saint Louis Kyle Rittenhouse.

1295
00:54:01,239 --> 00:54:02,280
Speaker 4: He's part of that turn.

1296
00:54:02,280 --> 00:54:03,200
Speaker 3: Kick the FU out of here.

1297
00:54:03,320 --> 00:54:06,120
Speaker 4: Oh yes, they had him speak at their engagements and

1298
00:54:06,120 --> 00:54:09,799
Speaker 4: all that. Yeah, to be a politician.

1299
00:54:09,840 --> 00:54:12,960
Speaker 2: That's the one who drove through the crowd right now.

1300
00:54:12,960 --> 00:54:13,879
Speaker 7: He's the one who had the guns.

1301
00:54:13,920 --> 00:54:18,440
Speaker 1: He had the gun in Minnesota and Minnesota yet Minnesota,

1302
00:54:19,320 --> 00:54:22,200
Speaker 1: I don't know. To me, I think I think it's scary.

1303
00:54:22,640 --> 00:54:26,200
Speaker 1: Me and my friends were just talking about everything that's happened. Bro,

1304
00:54:26,320 --> 00:54:30,680
Speaker 1: we are only nine months into this motherfucker's presidency.

1305
00:54:30,680 --> 00:54:35,680
Speaker 2: Bro, Man like we are nine months.

1306
00:54:34,920 --> 00:54:38,359
Speaker 1: Into this motherfucker's presidency. We got another three years of this, three.

1307
00:54:38,320 --> 00:54:41,920
Speaker 6: Years and three months, like four months.

1308
00:54:43,080 --> 00:54:45,440
Speaker 2: It's scary. It's really scary. It's really scary.

1309
00:54:45,800 --> 00:54:47,960
Speaker 1: I will say, in terms of all of the outrage

1310
00:54:48,000 --> 00:54:50,719
Speaker 1: that I saw around this, we had to be in

1311
00:54:50,760 --> 00:54:54,760
Speaker 1: a place where we allow people to grieve, to share opinions,

1312
00:54:54,800 --> 00:54:57,160
Speaker 1: to do all this. But I think my biggest problem,

1313
00:54:57,440 --> 00:55:00,600
Speaker 1: and it's why I like these conversations. What I see

1314
00:55:00,640 --> 00:55:03,360
Speaker 1: is people going straight to insult and it's just like

1315
00:55:03,560 --> 00:55:05,640
Speaker 1: just allow if you don't like the opinion, you don't

1316
00:55:05,680 --> 00:55:06,799
Speaker 1: have to respond, Like.

1317
00:55:06,800 --> 00:55:08,320
Speaker 7: Can I ask you a question about the opinion?

1318
00:55:08,360 --> 00:55:08,879
Speaker 3: Now? What?

1319
00:55:09,400 --> 00:55:11,759
Speaker 7: Because I think because when you.

1320
00:55:11,680 --> 00:55:14,040
Speaker 5: Were setting it up earlier, asked and Ray about people

1321
00:55:14,080 --> 00:55:16,720
Speaker 5: having empathy right right, And a lot of the empathy

1322
00:55:16,719 --> 00:55:18,920
Speaker 5: discussion that I see that white people are having is

1323
00:55:19,280 --> 00:55:22,279
Speaker 5: I may have disagreed with his opinion, but I didn't

1324
00:55:22,320 --> 00:55:25,880
Speaker 5: want to see you know, that type of violence occur. Oh,

1325
00:55:25,920 --> 00:55:28,120
Speaker 5: I didn't want to see the videos is yeah. But

1326
00:55:28,200 --> 00:55:31,520
Speaker 5: my question is, is what he's saying an opinion? Like

1327
00:55:31,520 --> 00:55:33,040
Speaker 5: like I want to read a quote about this is

1328
00:55:33,040 --> 00:55:36,160
Speaker 5: what he said about black women. Black This is from

1329
00:55:36,239 --> 00:55:38,759
Speaker 5: Charlie Kirk. Yeah, black women. And this is not like

1330
00:55:40,080 --> 00:55:42,319
Speaker 5: a rare take from him. This is pretty normal for him.

1331
00:55:42,680 --> 00:55:45,520
Speaker 5: Black women do not have brain processing power to be

1332
00:55:45,560 --> 00:55:49,120
Speaker 5: taking seriously you have to go steal a white person's slot.

1333
00:55:49,320 --> 00:55:52,120
Speaker 5: This is him talking about it from ative action, right,

1334
00:55:52,280 --> 00:55:55,920
Speaker 5: And so my question is do you value that as

1335
00:55:55,960 --> 00:55:58,080
Speaker 5: an opinion or is that something deep like to me,

1336
00:55:58,160 --> 00:56:01,120
Speaker 5: that's dehumanizing and I don't view that is like or

1337
00:56:01,160 --> 00:56:03,120
Speaker 5: just because I disagree with this opinion, I should have

1338
00:56:03,120 --> 00:56:05,040
Speaker 5: empathy an opinion.

1339
00:56:05,200 --> 00:56:05,759
Speaker 2: Here's the thing.

1340
00:56:06,040 --> 00:56:07,960
Speaker 1: I may not share it all the time on the

1341
00:56:08,000 --> 00:56:10,000
Speaker 1: pot like, there's a lot of conversations with my friends

1342
00:56:10,000 --> 00:56:10,560
Speaker 1: and be like, ooh.

1343
00:56:10,400 --> 00:56:11,560
Speaker 4: Bitch, we could never say that on Mike.

1344
00:56:11,960 --> 00:56:15,760
Speaker 1: We all dehumanize people often. So that was his opinion

1345
00:56:15,760 --> 00:56:16,920
Speaker 1: that he had. Did I agree with it?

1346
00:56:17,000 --> 00:56:17,040
Speaker 5: Not?

1347
00:56:17,360 --> 00:56:19,759
Speaker 1: But have I been or said something that could be

1348
00:56:19,840 --> 00:56:23,359
Speaker 1: seen as everything under the sun where, oh my god,

1349
00:56:23,400 --> 00:56:26,319
Speaker 1: you shouldn't think that. Yeah, Like, I'm fucking human him

1350
00:56:26,360 --> 00:56:27,920
Speaker 1: saying that I don't agree with it. I don't think

1351
00:56:27,920 --> 00:56:30,080
Speaker 1: he should have been shot and killed for it. I'm

1352
00:56:30,120 --> 00:56:32,520
Speaker 1: also not someone that believes that no one should be

1353
00:56:32,520 --> 00:56:36,000
Speaker 1: shot and killed. Kill these goddamn pedophiles, Kill these goddamn rapist,

1354
00:56:36,000 --> 00:56:36,440
Speaker 1: shoot them.

1355
00:56:36,440 --> 00:56:37,080
Speaker 3: I don't give a fuck.

1356
00:56:37,120 --> 00:56:39,239
Speaker 1: I believe in the death penalty for for niggas that

1357
00:56:39,360 --> 00:56:41,799
Speaker 1: do bullshit like that, right, So I also believe that

1358
00:56:41,840 --> 00:56:42,960
Speaker 1: some people deserve to die.

1359
00:56:43,239 --> 00:56:45,320
Speaker 2: I'm not here saying no one deserves to die.

1360
00:56:45,400 --> 00:56:49,240
Speaker 1: But for your opinion, I don't think you should die.

1361
00:56:49,400 --> 00:56:51,120
Speaker 2: That's not having an opinion is not a crime.

1362
00:56:51,120 --> 00:56:51,759
Speaker 3: I'm gonna say this.

1363
00:56:51,880 --> 00:56:54,360
Speaker 6: I think I think the reason why he got killed

1364
00:56:54,400 --> 00:56:57,279
Speaker 6: was because he didn't have empathy. I think I think

1365
00:56:57,280 --> 00:56:59,719
Speaker 6: that I think that when he was on those college campuses,

1366
00:57:00,160 --> 00:57:02,800
Speaker 6: when those kids were talking to him, if he wasn't

1367
00:57:02,840 --> 00:57:05,279
Speaker 6: just so in your face with it, like yeah, black

1368
00:57:05,280 --> 00:57:07,200
Speaker 6: people and like this and your people and you're violent,

1369
00:57:07,239 --> 00:57:09,040
Speaker 6: and I think if he was like more human, like, look,

1370
00:57:09,080 --> 00:57:10,720
Speaker 6: I know you come from a culture, and I understand

1371
00:57:10,920 --> 00:57:12,359
Speaker 6: he didn't give any grace.

1372
00:57:12,200 --> 00:57:15,239
Speaker 3: Right, just like president don't have empathy. That's my point.

1373
00:57:15,320 --> 00:57:17,520
Speaker 6: So I think that him not have empathy is to

1374
00:57:17,600 --> 00:57:20,400
Speaker 6: me is why we should show it to me, right,

1375
00:57:20,440 --> 00:57:23,760
Speaker 6: because it's like show show them better, right. It's like,

1376
00:57:24,080 --> 00:57:25,600
Speaker 6: as much as I'm Martin, I mean as much as

1377
00:57:25,600 --> 00:57:29,000
Speaker 6: I'm Malcolm, Martin did more right because Martin. What the

1378
00:57:29,040 --> 00:57:30,959
Speaker 6: one thing Martin did that malcol wouldn't do is Martin

1379
00:57:31,000 --> 00:57:33,640
Speaker 6: would let you punch him in his face? Malcolm, wouldn't

1380
00:57:33,640 --> 00:57:34,560
Speaker 6: you punched Malcolm in face?

1381
00:57:34,600 --> 00:57:35,240
Speaker 3: We fucking you up?

1382
00:57:35,280 --> 00:57:37,720
Speaker 6: Martin was like, so Martin was doing them marches when

1383
00:57:37,720 --> 00:57:40,640
Speaker 6: they're like, think about that. Those images of dogs attaching

1384
00:57:40,840 --> 00:57:42,880
Speaker 6: that that is what really made people in New York

1385
00:57:42,920 --> 00:57:45,720
Speaker 6: and California say, hey, these are Americans getting treated by way.

1386
00:57:46,240 --> 00:57:49,000
Speaker 5: Charlie Kirk said that nineteen sixty four Civil Rights Act

1387
00:57:49,080 --> 00:57:49,560
Speaker 5: was a mistake.

1388
00:57:50,320 --> 00:57:51,240
Speaker 7: I just want to say these things.

1389
00:57:51,280 --> 00:57:52,760
Speaker 3: I don't know too much about the Civil Rights Actor,

1390
00:57:52,800 --> 00:57:53,360
Speaker 3: know what it was.

1391
00:57:53,400 --> 00:57:55,280
Speaker 5: So the Civil Rights Action is what you're talking about, right,

1392
00:57:55,280 --> 00:57:56,560
Speaker 5: Like everything Martin.

1393
00:57:56,280 --> 00:57:57,880
Speaker 3: It ended segregation in the school.

1394
00:57:57,840 --> 00:58:02,240
Speaker 5: And so those images that you're talking about, Ray, those

1395
00:58:02,280 --> 00:58:05,400
Speaker 5: are the things that helped lead to government and a

1396
00:58:05,400 --> 00:58:08,240
Speaker 5: lot of elected officials changing their mind and voting towards

1397
00:58:08,240 --> 00:58:11,280
Speaker 5: the nineteen sixty four Civil Rights Act, right, and so again,

1398
00:58:11,320 --> 00:58:13,240
Speaker 5: because I just want our audience to know who Charlie

1399
00:58:13,280 --> 00:58:15,280
Speaker 5: Kirki is, because I think the name popped up. It's

1400
00:58:15,320 --> 00:58:17,280
Speaker 5: a lot of information. People might not know who he is.

1401
00:58:17,440 --> 00:58:20,000
Speaker 5: Another thing he said is the nineteen sixty four Civil

1402
00:58:20,080 --> 00:58:23,160
Speaker 5: Rights Act was a mistake. I just want to be

1403
00:58:23,200 --> 00:58:23,680
Speaker 5: clear who this is.

1404
00:58:23,800 --> 00:58:26,240
Speaker 3: I mean, yeah, I know who he is. I ain't

1405
00:58:26,280 --> 00:58:26,880
Speaker 3: agree with him.

1406
00:58:26,880 --> 00:58:29,680
Speaker 6: He speaks for he speaks for he speaks for demographic

1407
00:58:30,560 --> 00:58:32,080
Speaker 6: by the way that we know is there.

1408
00:58:32,200 --> 00:58:34,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, And I think that's why he's worked.

1409
00:58:34,400 --> 00:58:36,600
Speaker 6: I think that's why he So I'll tell you, I

1410
00:58:36,640 --> 00:58:39,000
Speaker 6: think that's why he worked because he was saying, well,

1411
00:58:39,040 --> 00:58:41,240
Speaker 6: white people have been wanting to say in America without

1412
00:58:41,280 --> 00:58:43,360
Speaker 6: being canceled and that's why it worked. That's why I

1413
00:58:43,400 --> 00:58:45,600
Speaker 6: say he was their pock. He was saying shit to us.

1414
00:58:45,600 --> 00:58:47,880
Speaker 6: It's crazy as the sound. It's like, who supports this?

1415
00:58:47,960 --> 00:58:50,720
Speaker 2: He would have he had support, thirteen thousand kids.

1416
00:58:50,480 --> 00:58:51,960
Speaker 3: Outside just to argue with him.

1417
00:58:52,720 --> 00:58:56,320
Speaker 6: He was only thirty one guys, you're talking about you're

1418
00:58:56,320 --> 00:58:58,240
Speaker 6: talking about two thousand and thirty six election. They will

1419
00:58:58,280 --> 00:59:00,880
Speaker 6: set him up to be the king. And by the way,

1420
00:59:00,880 --> 00:59:04,720
Speaker 6: and that one bullet stopped it, and that's what it is.

1421
00:59:04,920 --> 00:59:07,000
Speaker 6: And by the way he got he put that energy

1422
00:59:07,040 --> 00:59:09,960
Speaker 6: out there if I got to die for this to work,

1423
00:59:10,080 --> 00:59:12,919
Speaker 6: and it happened, and I feel like they're gonna run with.

1424
00:59:12,840 --> 00:59:14,400
Speaker 3: That ship now. He did say some people are going

1425
00:59:14,440 --> 00:59:15,120
Speaker 3: to he.

1426
00:59:15,160 --> 00:59:16,560
Speaker 6: Might have a statue in front of the White House.

1427
00:59:16,600 --> 00:59:19,600
Speaker 6: The way the way they they really ain't playing. Yeah,

1428
00:59:20,640 --> 00:59:23,360
Speaker 6: that's a college drop out, a high school drop out,

1429
00:59:23,400 --> 00:59:25,959
Speaker 6: white kid who started. He's a hustle like anybody else.

1430
00:59:26,240 --> 00:59:28,760
Speaker 6: But because it's them, it looks it's more organized the

1431
00:59:28,800 --> 00:59:30,440
Speaker 6: system around it. But at the end of the day,

1432
00:59:30,480 --> 00:59:32,880
Speaker 6: I'm afraid for our country because I feel like they're

1433
00:59:32,880 --> 00:59:35,040
Speaker 6: gonna use to get angry. That's why I don't bask

1434
00:59:35,120 --> 00:59:37,000
Speaker 6: I'm not saying don't go into your room and close

1435
00:59:37,040 --> 00:59:39,520
Speaker 6: your door and be like, but don't do it publicly,

1436
00:59:39,560 --> 00:59:41,400
Speaker 6: because if you do it publicly, you're giving them a

1437
00:59:41,480 --> 00:59:43,919
Speaker 6: chance to do something publicly back to you. And that's

1438
00:59:43,960 --> 00:59:46,520
Speaker 6: my only fear and white people and that the mag

1439
00:59:46,520 --> 00:59:48,320
Speaker 6: of people are way more evil than our people. Now,

1440
00:59:48,320 --> 00:59:51,160
Speaker 6: we might kill, but we kill emotionally killed. We ain't

1441
00:59:51,280 --> 00:59:54,080
Speaker 6: calculating to kill. We're not sitting there saying he comes

1442
00:59:54,120 --> 00:59:56,320
Speaker 6: on December thirteenth, I'm going to be on top of

1443
00:59:56,320 --> 00:59:57,400
Speaker 6: the building at three pm.

1444
00:59:57,600 --> 00:59:59,840
Speaker 3: We don't think like that. We are engraving a bullet.

1445
01:00:00,160 --> 01:00:02,200
Speaker 3: Engraving the bullet. Catch this. And they said he had

1446
01:00:02,200 --> 01:00:09,320
Speaker 3: a trans girlfriend. Oh, I think you just had He

1447
01:00:09,360 --> 01:00:10,240
Speaker 3: had a trans girlfriend.

1448
01:00:10,320 --> 01:00:14,280
Speaker 8: He lived with so a colleague of ours who who

1449
01:00:14,400 --> 01:00:16,520
Speaker 8: you know whose trans was worried about that.

1450
01:00:16,560 --> 01:00:18,800
Speaker 4: It is like watch, oh they are.

1451
01:00:18,760 --> 01:00:20,120
Speaker 2: Gonna spend, They're gonna.

1452
01:00:19,960 --> 01:00:22,960
Speaker 8: Spend, and then that they're gonna lean into the liberal

1453
01:00:23,080 --> 01:00:23,520
Speaker 8: and then.

1454
01:00:23,600 --> 01:00:25,200
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, they're gonna make they're gonna make it seem

1455
01:00:25,280 --> 01:00:27,000
Speaker 1: like he was liberal and against everything.

1456
01:00:26,960 --> 01:00:29,120
Speaker 3: Like eleventh They was like, had nothing to do with

1457
01:00:29,200 --> 01:00:31,360
Speaker 3: so Donald. Get him to be fair.

1458
01:00:31,400 --> 01:00:32,800
Speaker 1: They might be able to spend that because his own

1459
01:00:32,840 --> 01:00:37,760
Speaker 1: daddy turned him in, so you know, and the Christian

1460
01:00:38,280 --> 01:00:42,440
Speaker 1: Bible tote in Republican republic, and so the way that

1461
01:00:42,720 --> 01:00:45,480
Speaker 1: the daddy turned him in might be because he was

1462
01:00:45,520 --> 01:00:46,200
Speaker 1: liberal leaning.

1463
01:00:47,600 --> 01:00:49,400
Speaker 2: I mean, they're gonna be able to happen.

1464
01:00:49,720 --> 01:00:51,720
Speaker 1: There might be a narrative to spend there, which is

1465
01:00:52,080 --> 01:00:54,520
Speaker 1: why you see the white magas online like We're gonna

1466
01:00:54,560 --> 01:00:55,320
Speaker 1: come and get you.

1467
01:00:55,720 --> 01:00:56,640
Speaker 2: It's fucking bullshit.

1468
01:00:56,680 --> 01:00:59,480
Speaker 1: What is your final thoughts on having an opinion and

1469
01:00:59,520 --> 01:01:03,040
Speaker 1: everybody having their selective outrage around even some of these topics.

1470
01:01:03,200 --> 01:01:05,320
Speaker 3: I'm I'm gonna talk directly to the people.

1471
01:01:05,800 --> 01:01:09,320
Speaker 6: How someone's opinion affects you is a mirror to you

1472
01:01:10,240 --> 01:01:12,080
Speaker 6: if someone like what I mean by that is like

1473
01:01:12,120 --> 01:01:14,640
Speaker 6: I see things on the line all day of people

1474
01:01:14,640 --> 01:01:16,960
Speaker 6: saying dispectful things. It never bothers me because I know

1475
01:01:17,000 --> 01:01:18,960
Speaker 6: it doesn't affect me. And not only that, I'm happy

1476
01:01:19,000 --> 01:01:21,840
Speaker 6: in life, like I'm doing well for myself. It goes

1477
01:01:21,880 --> 01:01:24,000
Speaker 6: back to high school. The kids that them kids that

1478
01:01:24,120 --> 01:01:27,080
Speaker 6: was the top fucking five percent. They wasn't They was

1479
01:01:27,080 --> 01:01:28,480
Speaker 6: in the front of the class. Why we in the

1480
01:01:28,520 --> 01:01:30,720
Speaker 6: back talking laugh and they in the front doing their work.

1481
01:01:31,440 --> 01:01:33,800
Speaker 6: My only thing I'm saying is that I just feel

1482
01:01:33,840 --> 01:01:35,240
Speaker 6: like we just gotta calm down.

1483
01:01:35,280 --> 01:01:36,760
Speaker 3: Guys. It's just crazy.

1484
01:01:37,480 --> 01:01:40,800
Speaker 6: Listen, how you see emotion says more about you. That

1485
01:01:40,880 --> 01:01:43,400
Speaker 6: kid that killed Charlie said more about him. He was

1486
01:01:43,400 --> 01:01:46,120
Speaker 6: the one probably laying with a trans woman feeling like

1487
01:01:46,160 --> 01:01:48,360
Speaker 6: this dude is talking directly to me, I'm gonna kill

1488
01:01:48,360 --> 01:01:49,480
Speaker 6: that motherfuck.

1489
01:01:49,320 --> 01:01:51,640
Speaker 3: And that's exactly what happened. But it was the mirror

1490
01:01:51,680 --> 01:01:52,400
Speaker 3: of the person.

1491
01:01:53,320 --> 01:01:55,920
Speaker 6: So if you're offended by anything I said, I asked

1492
01:01:55,920 --> 01:01:58,520
Speaker 6: you to try to look at yourself and say, why

1493
01:01:58,560 --> 01:02:01,280
Speaker 6: am I offended? Because literally, I've had people call me

1494
01:02:01,320 --> 01:02:02,720
Speaker 6: about things said about me, and it was like, this

1495
01:02:02,760 --> 01:02:04,640
Speaker 6: person said this, and you noticed, Mike, you managed me.

1496
01:02:04,680 --> 01:02:06,600
Speaker 3: They said, I'm like, why do you care? It's not true.

1497
01:02:07,200 --> 01:02:07,720
Speaker 3: It's not true.

1498
01:02:07,720 --> 01:02:09,680
Speaker 6: It's great they said this about you. I don't give

1499
01:02:09,680 --> 01:02:11,960
Speaker 6: a fuck. It is not true. The more I entertain it,

1500
01:02:12,000 --> 01:02:14,600
Speaker 6: the more I'm giving it energy. That that ship dies

1501
01:02:14,640 --> 01:02:16,360
Speaker 6: like I fire with no oxygen, that shit gonna die.

1502
01:02:16,400 --> 01:02:18,120
Speaker 6: That's what I would say. Stop getting caught.

1503
01:02:18,000 --> 01:02:19,840
Speaker 2: Up, Stop getting caught up the ship.

1504
01:02:21,080 --> 01:02:23,560
Speaker 7: One last point, one last point, go ahead, one last point.

1505
01:02:23,840 --> 01:02:25,640
Speaker 7: I'm being journalist. Jason too much today.

1506
01:02:25,720 --> 01:02:30,920
Speaker 5: But Jason like that, Well, you gave it to me

1507
01:02:31,000 --> 01:02:34,920
Speaker 5: like three episodes, Jason, But I think too because again,

1508
01:02:35,080 --> 01:02:37,120
Speaker 5: whether he was with the trans woman or not, I

1509
01:02:37,160 --> 01:02:39,760
Speaker 5: don't know. But what is coming up and you mentioned

1510
01:02:39,760 --> 01:02:41,680
Speaker 5: it with like the narratives and how it's being spun

1511
01:02:41,760 --> 01:02:43,840
Speaker 5: by by them, and by them we mean, like you know,

1512
01:02:43,920 --> 01:02:44,640
Speaker 5: right leaning.

1513
01:02:44,440 --> 01:02:47,760
Speaker 3: Folks also to there he was left leaning.

1514
01:02:48,600 --> 01:02:51,520
Speaker 5: There's a lot of information that's coming out that the

1515
01:02:51,600 --> 01:02:53,400
Speaker 5: kid who shot him they shot him because he was

1516
01:02:53,440 --> 01:02:56,120
Speaker 5: not right leaning enough. Right and so there's there's a

1517
01:02:56,120 --> 01:02:58,800
Speaker 5: lot of reporting that's coming out there group that there's

1518
01:02:58,840 --> 01:03:02,040
Speaker 5: another group called the Groyper and they're saying because Charlie

1519
01:03:02,160 --> 01:03:04,680
Speaker 5: Kirk was not right leaning enough, that's why he got shot.

1520
01:03:04,840 --> 01:03:07,320
Speaker 5: That's why the bullet casings were engraved, because they think

1521
01:03:07,360 --> 01:03:09,840
Speaker 5: that he wasn't they thought that he was too sympathetic

1522
01:03:09,880 --> 01:03:12,720
Speaker 5: to the middle, even though he said the comments that you.

1523
01:03:12,720 --> 01:03:15,200
Speaker 1: Know, I mean, my my final thought is a lot

1524
01:03:15,200 --> 01:03:17,800
Speaker 1: of I was gonna say, I can't stand all the

1525
01:03:17,840 --> 01:03:19,800
Speaker 1: goddamn conspiracy theorist of ship just.

1526
01:03:20,000 --> 01:03:20,800
Speaker 3: Let the ship play out.

1527
01:03:21,120 --> 01:03:24,440
Speaker 8: What's alarming is that he just mentioned another group of

1528
01:03:24,480 --> 01:03:26,000
Speaker 8: think of think Dick Rippers.

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Speaker 1: That's what you called him, the Dick Rippers, Dick ripers, Okay,

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Speaker 1: the Dick Griffers.

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Speaker 4: That's right.

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Speaker 1: Where could everybody listen to your takes? You have a

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Speaker 1: ton of content for we going to tune into. Let

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Speaker 1: everybody know where they could listen to you support you.

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Speaker 6: Just just look up at Ray Daniels Presents. I'm pretty

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Speaker 6: sure I'm there. If you go to Twitter, you go

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Speaker 6: to YouTube, you go anywhere, just such Ray dwnis Presents.

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Speaker 6: Go to your web, you listen to your podcasts, type

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Speaker 6: in Ray Daniels Presents and you'll find me there.

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Speaker 1: And also because I love the content I put over there.

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Speaker 1: The clip that we played earlier was from the Radar Report,

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Speaker 1: which is on Patreon.

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Speaker 3: It's Patreon exclusive. Well no not, the whole thing is

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Speaker 3: as alive.

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Speaker 6: I get Patreon the experience and I cut it up

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Speaker 6: and put some parts on YouTube.

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Speaker 3: The entire thing is on Patreon.

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Speaker 1: So if y'all want to support this brother, go ahead

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Speaker 1: and subscribe to that Patreon. And if you're in Atlanta,

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Speaker 1: you can now hear me every Saturday six to eight

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Speaker 1: on Hot one of seven nine off the clot Also

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Speaker 1: you could catch me decisions decisions every Monday. And you

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Speaker 1: know I got Mad Shit coming out, also a New

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Speaker 1: York Times. I'm a New York Times bestseller. So if

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Speaker 1: you haven't yet, make sure you caught that book. No

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Speaker 1: holds bar to do a manifesto, sexual explanation and power.

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Speaker 1: And this that you're tuned into is selective Ignorance, where

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Speaker 1: curiosity lives, controversy thrives, and conversations matter.

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Speaker 2: See y'all next week.

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Speaker 4: Let's go Happy fifect.

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Speaker 2: Yes, that'd be fifth year of Black a Fects.

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Speaker 1: Selective Ignorance, a production of the Black Effect podcast Network.

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Speaker 1: Apple Podcasts, or wherever you listen to your favorite shows.

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Speaker 5: Thanks for tuning in the Selective Ignorance of Mandy B.

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Speaker 5: Selective Ignorance. It's executive produced to Buy Mandy B. And

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Speaker 5: it's a full Court Media studio production with lead producers

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Speaker 5: Jason Mondriguez.

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Speaker 3: That's me and Aaron A.

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Speaker 5: King Howard. Now do us a favor and rate, Subscribe,

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Speaker 6: Thanks for listening and celebrating five years of the Black

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Speaker 6: Effect Podcast Network with us.

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Speaker 3: Keep following because the next five years are about to

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Speaker 3: be even