WEBVTT - Hangin' with the Boys: 17 and 10 0:00:04.160 --> 0:00:06.720 The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 0:00:06.760 --> 0:00:18.800 and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. Flowing out of the backfield, 0:00:18.960 --> 0:00:24.080 the flumbing down the sidelines. He is hanging with the boys, 0:00:24.079 --> 0:00:29.600 presented by Wingstuff where Flavor gets its wings. Now, your hosts, 0:00:29.720 --> 0:00:38.280 Nate Newton, Kurt Daniels, Jesse Holly, and Shannon Gross Thursday 0:00:38.280 --> 0:00:41.800 eleven thirty four were late and it's my fault. But 0:00:41.920 --> 0:00:43.880 you know what, you guys still get paid the same 0:00:43.960 --> 0:00:47.479 for less work. So you're welcome eleven thirty four PM 0:00:47.760 --> 0:00:51.920 or AM live from the Star in Frisco. You will 0:00:51.960 --> 0:00:57.680 shortly be looking out at Tostito's championship plaza here at 0:00:57.920 --> 0:01:00.360 Ford Center at the Star in Frisco. There just sixty 0:01:00.400 --> 0:01:03.680 two degrees, feels like sixty one degrees. It's gonna be 0:01:03.760 --> 0:01:06.920 sixty six high, and tonight it will be forty at Chile, 0:01:07.040 --> 0:01:11.959 forty one degrees. Fellas seventeen games, seventeen games, more football. 0:01:12.520 --> 0:01:17.120 How are y'all doing today? Nate, you're smiling, Kurt, you're smiling. 0:01:17.240 --> 0:01:22.440 Jesse's texting the trailer park. What's happening? Fellas well? He 0:01:22.560 --> 0:01:24.760 just got out of shower. He worked strong on the 0:01:24.800 --> 0:01:26.800 trailer park today. He just got out of the shower. 0:01:29.360 --> 0:01:31.200 You know, hey, listen man, you know, man, when you're 0:01:31.240 --> 0:01:34.480 dealing with them hogs, man, you can't. You got you 0:01:34.560 --> 0:01:37.320 got to be ready, baby, you got hey, hey, be 0:01:37.440 --> 0:01:39.360 kind of prime called me the Hawks and don't do that. 0:01:39.440 --> 0:01:48.120 You work. Oh man. So we got more football now, 0:01:48.240 --> 0:01:54.240 we got seventeen games, three preseason games. If you ask me, 0:01:54.280 --> 0:01:57.360 there's no way they're gonna stop until you get eighteen games, 0:01:57.360 --> 0:02:01.640 because now you have one more either home or away game, 0:02:01.880 --> 0:02:04.920 and they alternate each year, and that's just not good 0:02:04.920 --> 0:02:06.760 for the bottom line, is it. So we're gonna have 0:02:06.800 --> 0:02:09.280 to even that out to where we got to have 0:02:09.440 --> 0:02:11.800 an extra home game for sure every year. Right at 0:02:11.880 --> 0:02:14.880 some point, that's where we're heading. I love it. I 0:02:14.960 --> 0:02:20.280 love it. I love it. I don't know I love 0:02:20.280 --> 0:02:23.240 it if I was playing, I love it. The preseason games. 0:02:23.680 --> 0:02:27.200 I mean, it's where I tell on the body. But 0:02:27.880 --> 0:02:33.120 you know, there's more money for the players. Uh really, 0:02:33.200 --> 0:02:35.200 let's let's let's let's let's say it may not be 0:02:35.240 --> 0:02:38.239 a great amount more, let's a little bit more. Let's 0:02:38.280 --> 0:02:40.880 it's a little bit more. I'm glad that you said that. 0:02:40.960 --> 0:02:44.360 I'm glad to stop Jest. You're not gonna take away 0:02:44.360 --> 0:02:49.679 my glory brow, Jess, I'm not. I'm just going to 0:02:49.760 --> 0:02:51.040 go ahead on, Jess. I want to hear what the 0:02:51.080 --> 0:02:53.440 great one has to say. Because when you start talking 0:02:53.480 --> 0:02:57.440 about there's more money for the players, right right, we 0:02:57.520 --> 0:03:00.919 all know that this league is top heavy, right all 0:03:00.919 --> 0:03:05.480 that you're the bulk of teams. Salaries go to a 0:03:05.639 --> 0:03:09.519 small percentage of the football teams. So when you talk 0:03:09.639 --> 0:03:13.600 talking about more money, yeah, your quarterbacks will get more money, 0:03:13.720 --> 0:03:18.240 your your your your top tackles will get more money. 0:03:18.440 --> 0:03:21.000 But when you start talking about the triple down effect 0:03:21.080 --> 0:03:25.560 is the quarterback will get more money, the defensive tackle 0:03:25.600 --> 0:03:28.280 will get more money, I mean defensive vading more money 0:03:28.280 --> 0:03:30.480 than off your attackle will getting more money. The owners 0:03:30.520 --> 0:03:33.399 are getting more money, But what about the bottom part 0:03:33.440 --> 0:03:36.000 of that roster who takes the same beating, go to 0:03:36.040 --> 0:03:38.040 the same training, can't put the same amount of game. 0:03:38.280 --> 0:03:42.040 Guys like Jesse Holly, we don't really get a huge increase. 0:03:42.280 --> 0:03:47.880 Always bringing we're always about Jesse. If I don't think 0:03:47.880 --> 0:03:51.040 about the little people, who will me Because I'm a 0:03:51.360 --> 0:03:55.400 person I have I can never be a little person. 0:03:55.440 --> 0:03:58.400 But I was in your category. But but but you 0:03:58.720 --> 0:04:03.200 are in the category and then you elevated out. I 0:04:03.240 --> 0:04:06.440 would say this, young Jesse. I would say this, young Jesse, 0:04:06.960 --> 0:04:09.920 this is a plus. This is a positive. Uh and 0:04:11.120 --> 0:04:14.360 for God, for coaches, which is most coaches who like 0:04:14.520 --> 0:04:16.920 veteran guys that give you a libit of leadway on 0:04:16.960 --> 0:04:19.680 a young guy, you know, getting into the season quick 0:04:19.720 --> 0:04:22.000 and taking away of preseason game. But I'd tell like 0:04:22.080 --> 0:04:26.279 this him my friend. In the long run, maybe not 0:04:26.440 --> 0:04:28.960 these first few years, but in the long run, I 0:04:28.960 --> 0:04:31.800 think this to benefit the players, you know, and I know, 0:04:31.960 --> 0:04:34.560 to benefit the fans, and to give you one more 0:04:34.640 --> 0:04:37.400 game to gravel and crowd over your team. We just 0:04:37.480 --> 0:04:39.440 had one more game, maybe would have guy THEID. We'll 0:04:39.480 --> 0:04:42.200 win this one more game. You can get into playoffs. 0:04:43.320 --> 0:04:48.920 This deal is one hundred percent about the owners. It's 0:04:48.920 --> 0:04:51.520 a long term in all of the terms. Because just 0:04:52.160 --> 0:04:55.520 one game. Just think about this, like, for example, the 0:04:55.600 --> 0:04:58.320 Dallas Cowboys and their seventeenth game of the season will 0:04:58.320 --> 0:05:01.320 play the New England Patriots. That that's gonna be a 0:05:01.320 --> 0:05:05.279 sold out game. Regardless, that's gonna be a sold out game, 0:05:05.320 --> 0:05:09.680 whether it's in uh Foxborough or whether it's in Arlington. 0:05:09.839 --> 0:05:11.960 That's going to be a sold out game, So that 0:05:12.000 --> 0:05:17.880 means more increased revenue at the concession stands, parking, more merchandise, 0:05:18.440 --> 0:05:23.119 more shadowed, more, more, more, all of that. Like this deal. 0:05:23.200 --> 0:05:29.080 And this is the part where I jes quick, Jesse, 0:05:29.320 --> 0:05:33.600 stop stop quick counting how the folks money, bro, I'm 0:05:33.640 --> 0:05:38.640 not counting that you are for the people that you've 0:05:38.720 --> 0:05:42.520 helped in this world and things that you've done. Stop counting, 0:05:42.760 --> 0:05:49.880 mister Jones money. I get y'all that damn money. That's 0:05:49.960 --> 0:05:55.720 good money. But my thing is I'm gonna get that's 0:05:55.720 --> 0:05:57.440 another week that we have to work, So I'm gonna 0:05:57.440 --> 0:05:59.640 get an extra ten dollars for those weeks that we 0:05:59.680 --> 0:06:02.279 have to work. So I'm cool with that. But I 0:06:02.400 --> 0:06:04.320 just get a little bit upset when you look at 0:06:04.320 --> 0:06:06.800 our CBA and the leaders of our CBA, the more 0:06:06.880 --> 0:06:10.279 Smiths at and I was That's what That's where I 0:06:10.320 --> 0:06:13.720 was going next was because this is nothing about this 0:06:13.760 --> 0:06:17.560 deal is really a player friendly. Nothing about like it's 0:06:17.640 --> 0:06:20.160 it's all owner friendly. And this is the thing when 0:06:20.279 --> 0:06:24.320 when I talk about the the the players having the 0:06:24.360 --> 0:06:29.360 worst CBA leadership, the players union leadership, we are worse 0:06:29.440 --> 0:06:31.880 than basketball We're worse than baseball. We're worse than the 0:06:31.960 --> 0:06:35.520 NHL because here it is, we give the owners a 0:06:35.640 --> 0:06:39.760 seventeenth game, and uh, we're and the thing is that 0:06:39.880 --> 0:06:42.440 we locked in for ten years and they we're locked 0:06:42.440 --> 0:06:45.040 in for ten years. So at going back to negotiating table, 0:06:45.720 --> 0:06:49.400 we can't do this thing about like, oh, like, how 0:06:49.560 --> 0:06:52.560 was it that we didn't think about TV money was 0:06:52.600 --> 0:06:58.040 coming up? Seventeenth game was coming up the agent as 0:06:58.080 --> 0:07:02.120 I negotiate. I don't know all I can say, but 0:07:02.240 --> 0:07:04.480 do you think I saw it? One theory that said, 0:07:04.520 --> 0:07:06.880 because of the extra game, the longer season, you know, 0:07:06.920 --> 0:07:09.880 the league has trended towards younger guys, you know, young 0:07:09.960 --> 0:07:12.800 fresh legs, that sort of thing. And this one person 0:07:12.920 --> 0:07:14.920 was saying, well, this might be an opportunity for maybe 0:07:14.960 --> 0:07:18.720 these veterans who know what's going on, add a little 0:07:18.720 --> 0:07:20.800 bit more depth. This might be an opportunity where you 0:07:20.840 --> 0:07:23.400 may see a shift where teams add I don't know 0:07:23.440 --> 0:07:25.360 if I believe that, but what do you think is 0:07:25.360 --> 0:07:27.840 this an opportunity for maybe some of those guys to 0:07:27.880 --> 0:07:31.440 stick around on the league longer who already know, you know, 0:07:32.840 --> 0:07:38.400 your career becomes shooter, you know, for a guy that's 0:07:38.480 --> 0:07:42.400 hungry and a guy that's young. It's that vanish but 0:07:42.560 --> 0:07:45.120 you see how to find that coach that's going to 0:07:45.200 --> 0:07:49.280 believe in you. It's still a veterans league at this point. 0:07:49.760 --> 0:07:53.679 But I'm telling right, hill Man, one more game being 0:07:53.680 --> 0:07:56.960 played is not gonna hurt these players one way another 0:07:57.000 --> 0:08:00.160 because we just got a Union guy saying, hey, look 0:08:00.200 --> 0:08:02.320 at this, we had no preseason games, had the best 0:08:02.960 --> 0:08:07.040 best league year of our life, which wasn't true. Everybody's 0:08:07.120 --> 0:08:10.080 possed through Jesse. One thing you said that was so true. 0:08:10.480 --> 0:08:13.880 The owners won like you would not believe. When it 0:08:13.880 --> 0:08:17.200 comes to revenue for this extra game. Now they don't 0:08:17.200 --> 0:08:20.360 have to guess at a preseason game how much revenue 0:08:20.400 --> 0:08:23.360 they got getting depended on who they playing and what 0:08:23.480 --> 0:08:26.680 time of the preseason is. They know this seventeenth game 0:08:26.760 --> 0:08:31.000 gonna be a sellout, so and even and even in 0:08:31.040 --> 0:08:33.920 the preseason, even in the preseason, because now you have 0:08:34.480 --> 0:08:38.280 you know, uh, normally you see the intendance kind of 0:08:38.320 --> 0:08:41.440 grow as we get to that third preseason game. Well, 0:08:41.440 --> 0:08:44.440 now you eliminate one of those dead preseason games, and 0:08:44.520 --> 0:08:48.520 now the action is more it's more packed because I 0:08:48.559 --> 0:08:51.360 don't have that extra game in that extra week of 0:08:51.520 --> 0:08:54.560 operation to get my guys going for the season. So yeah, 0:08:54.640 --> 0:08:56.840 you might see the first game, it might be that 0:08:56.960 --> 0:08:59.880 all kind of rookie game, but game two of the preseason, 0:09:00.360 --> 0:09:02.960 I gotta get my veterans ready to go to last game, 0:09:03.040 --> 0:09:06.199 and then this is the game number three. I still 0:09:06.320 --> 0:09:08.360 might have to get my veterans some playing time and 0:09:08.400 --> 0:09:10.760 then maybe in the second half getting my younger guys, 0:09:11.000 --> 0:09:14.080 bubble players some playing time. So the attraction to those 0:09:14.120 --> 0:09:18.680 preseason games is a win again for the owners because 0:09:19.000 --> 0:09:21.480 the attendance is going to be greatly because the games 0:09:21.480 --> 0:09:24.520 will have more of the recognizable faces that we know 0:09:24.559 --> 0:09:28.360 when we love getting them ready for the regular season, 0:09:28.360 --> 0:09:29.800 which you'll be right around the corner. Now that you 0:09:29.840 --> 0:09:32.840 only have three preseason games, do you think they should 0:09:33.960 --> 0:09:38.319 should they have added a second bywary, I do that. 0:09:38.440 --> 0:09:41.120 That's one thing they should have added. They should added 0:09:41.160 --> 0:09:44.240 a second boy, I think they'll probably do that. He 0:09:44.360 --> 0:09:46.960 just feeding jesting softball out of softball. You love your 0:09:46.960 --> 0:09:50.040 old bottles, call them them lagos, and he taking them 0:09:50.040 --> 0:09:59.719 straight out of Wow, good hurt. Once they go to 0:09:59.760 --> 0:10:01.760 an a teenth game, which I don't think they can 0:10:01.760 --> 0:10:04.600 get to eighteen. Because of the collective bargaining agreement, it'll 0:10:04.600 --> 0:10:06.800 be a while before we see eighteenth and that is 0:10:06.840 --> 0:10:09.800 the only chance they have. That's the only chance they 0:10:09.840 --> 0:10:12.319 have to come back to the players, and the prayers 0:10:12.360 --> 0:10:15.320 are praying, Okay, we can just get them to believe 0:10:15.360 --> 0:10:17.320 in this eighteenth game that shannon't want them to have, 0:10:18.000 --> 0:10:21.079 then we can we can crack into this thing. But 0:10:21.320 --> 0:10:28.440 other than that, jes right, wow, wow, okay, and let 0:10:28.520 --> 0:10:30.440 me let me be. Let me be on the record 0:10:30.480 --> 0:10:33.000 of saying, now, here's how the owners will get to 0:10:33.040 --> 0:10:35.720 the eighteen game season. Oh my god, we gotta go 0:10:35.760 --> 0:10:37.640 through this because we go to a break Shanning before 0:10:37.640 --> 0:10:41.520 they know. No, we cannot be fault. It's my fault. 0:10:43.480 --> 0:10:46.280 And here's how the owners, because the owners, they keep 0:10:46.360 --> 0:10:49.600 these things tucked underneath, and we just don't play the 0:10:49.679 --> 0:10:52.400 cards right. But the owners will say, hey, guys, got 0:10:52.400 --> 0:10:55.200 a little something for you. How about we take one 0:10:55.200 --> 0:10:57.760 of those years of those franchise tags off if you 0:10:57.800 --> 0:11:01.160 give us an eighteen game season now to take regular 0:11:01.440 --> 0:11:03.760 and go for that. Now the regular. Now you should 0:11:03.760 --> 0:11:06.800 tell the union now that don't benefit us. Look out now, 0:11:06.920 --> 0:11:09.080 the the guys like me and you should start like, 0:11:09.120 --> 0:11:11.520 hey man, Nope, they're gonna say, you know what they're 0:11:11.520 --> 0:11:15.080 gonna say. They're gonna say, na, man, she ain't table quicker. 0:11:15.240 --> 0:11:17.000 There's no money for you guys to have another We 0:11:17.040 --> 0:11:19.280 got an eighteen game season. Maybe they say we get 0:11:19.280 --> 0:11:24.160 you a half percent more more lot. They they donna 0:11:24.160 --> 0:11:26.679 try to say, I'm gonna take one of those franchise 0:11:26.720 --> 0:11:31.720 tags off. So we're gonna break one time stopping Shannon. Okay, 0:11:31.760 --> 0:11:33.880 we're gonna go to our first break early because Nate 0:11:33.920 --> 0:11:35.840 said so when we come back, we'll have more hanging 0:11:35.880 --> 0:11:38.839 with the boys. 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No, we're not talking about safety for the Cowboys. 0:14:30.360 --> 0:14:32.400 He'll never coached me and I never played for him. 0:14:33.840 --> 0:14:36.400 I thought everybody I'm talking about, I'm talking about the 0:14:36.520 --> 0:14:41.520 legendary Roy Williams, the head basketball coach at Kansas and 0:14:41.720 --> 0:14:45.040 at the University of North Carolina. After thirty three years, 0:14:45.560 --> 0:14:50.200 my guy is calling it quits. Um. He is going 0:14:50.240 --> 0:14:53.160 to golf. He's going to just spend this time golfing 0:14:53.640 --> 0:14:57.040 the rest of his days. Uh. What an opportunity, with 0:14:57.120 --> 0:14:59.880 a great opportunity. I got a chance to play for 0:15:00.040 --> 0:15:03.480 coach Williams. And it was interesting because coach didn't recruit 0:15:03.520 --> 0:15:06.080 me out of high school. He was at Kansas when 0:15:06.120 --> 0:15:09.080 I was coming out of high school and coach Matt Dhardy, 0:15:09.160 --> 0:15:12.520 coach recruited me. And then when Dardy got fired and 0:15:12.640 --> 0:15:17.520 Roy came on, we had a phone call and he said, listen, Son, 0:15:17.680 --> 0:15:21.360 I didn't recruit you. You weren't on my radar, he said, 0:15:21.400 --> 0:15:25.800 But if you're good enough for coach Dharty and that 0:15:25.880 --> 0:15:29.080 staff to want you here, I'm gonna honor what they 0:15:29.120 --> 0:15:30.840 told you, and I'm gonna honor what they do, but 0:15:30.920 --> 0:15:33.520 you'll earn everything you get. And I said, that's all 0:15:33.520 --> 0:15:36.000 I asked for, and he gave me an opportunity, and 0:15:36.560 --> 0:15:37.960 I was a part of the team that won his 0:15:38.000 --> 0:15:43.680 first national championship and two thousand and five, I hosted 0:15:44.040 --> 0:15:46.600 Late Night with Roy in two thousand and seventeen where 0:15:46.600 --> 0:15:50.680 he didn't want another national championship. And I think, you know, 0:15:50.880 --> 0:15:53.280 get old ball coach Van, He's just he's up there 0:15:53.280 --> 0:15:55.280 in age. He's had some health issues in the past. 0:15:55.720 --> 0:15:59.400 And you know, he went out on top his last 0:15:59.440 --> 0:16:02.000 regular sy at home game. He beat the Brakes off 0:16:02.080 --> 0:16:05.840 Duke And so anytime you do that, you can go out. 0:16:06.200 --> 0:16:09.200 You can go out on top. Soul salute to Coach Williams. 0:16:10.120 --> 0:16:14.880 Enjoy golfing, enjoy time with Miss Wanda. And I know 0:16:15.200 --> 0:16:17.800 once you're a Carolina tar Hill, you're always a coming 0:16:17.800 --> 0:16:19.240 on a tar So I know he'll still have an 0:16:19.280 --> 0:16:21.480 office in the building, just like coach Dean Smith did 0:16:21.760 --> 0:16:24.040 before he passed, and he'll still be around a program. 0:16:24.080 --> 0:16:29.200 And so thank you Coach Williams, and enjoy retirement. Can 0:16:29.240 --> 0:16:31.200 we you recruited for basketball and then went out for 0:16:31.200 --> 0:16:36.680 football both. It's recruited for both, and we decided on 0:16:36.800 --> 0:16:39.720 taking a football scholarship because there was more there than 0:16:39.760 --> 0:16:41.800 it was in basketball and allowed them to bring another 0:16:41.800 --> 0:16:43.960 player in. So how much did they pay you to 0:16:43.960 --> 0:16:48.600 play basketball? Jess? You're given soul? Jess. I love that always. Jesse, 0:16:48.640 --> 0:16:51.000 you got you got the scholarship for the football. How 0:16:51.080 --> 0:16:55.400 much cash did you get for the basketball? What a second? 0:16:55.400 --> 0:16:59.920 That were you on the second? Yeah? Player ain't never 0:17:00.000 --> 0:17:07.400 giving that. I want to go to Hey, how big about? 0:17:07.440 --> 0:17:10.280 What about the Cowboys talk about talk about that rivalry? 0:17:10.480 --> 0:17:13.160 The draft is about the way talk about talk about 0:17:13.160 --> 0:17:16.760 the duke rivalry? How how crazy is it the week 0:17:16.880 --> 0:17:21.440 or the day that you guys play duke? The week 0:17:21.560 --> 0:17:24.360 is crazy, the day is crazy. The rivalry is It's 0:17:24.400 --> 0:17:28.080 like it doesn't end when the season is over, Like 0:17:28.119 --> 0:17:31.080 there's still a divide between the people in Durham, North 0:17:31.080 --> 0:17:33.280 Carolina and the people in Chapel Hill in North Carolina. 0:17:33.440 --> 0:17:36.400 And there's so many places that you know, like the 0:17:36.440 --> 0:17:39.800 mall sits in between both Durham and North Carolina. So 0:17:39.840 --> 0:17:43.040 the big mall that everyone goes to sits in between Durham. 0:17:43.040 --> 0:17:46.800 So you you you're likely to see someone from from 0:17:47.400 --> 0:17:51.960 from Duke Carolina eight miles. It's eight miles straight down 0:17:52.000 --> 0:17:56.399 fifty Highway fifteen five on one. So like the movie, theater, 0:17:56.560 --> 0:18:00.280 the bowling Alley, the restaurants, all that stuff sits right 0:18:00.280 --> 0:18:02.560 in the middle of all that. So there's no telling 0:18:02.600 --> 0:18:04.440 when that you might You might go to the Applebe's 0:18:04.440 --> 0:18:06.960 and to the chilies or or to the State House 0:18:07.040 --> 0:18:09.760 or whatever, and the likelihood of you seeing someone from 0:18:10.160 --> 0:18:13.000 the school and Durham it's very, very high. Do you 0:18:13.040 --> 0:18:16.320 steal your respective campuses the party unless you're heading out 0:18:16.320 --> 0:18:20.080 to Rileigh somewhere. But you know it's it's it's so close, 0:18:20.160 --> 0:18:22.840 but it's so far apart. It's two separate, different worlds. 0:18:23.160 --> 0:18:27.520 But the writer is real. It's fun, it's intense um 0:18:27.560 --> 0:18:30.000 and it can get up a little nasty every now 0:18:30.040 --> 0:18:32.960 and again. Yeah, Nate, who is the Florida A and 0:18:33.080 --> 0:18:38.280 M's big rivalry Thune Cookman College And neither one of 0:18:38.320 --> 0:18:40.879 us is doing nothing now, so you don't get to 0:18:40.880 --> 0:18:43.399 feel that. We felt that when I played a little bit, 0:18:43.440 --> 0:18:46.560 but it's been none existing. The thumb and beating it 0:18:46.680 --> 0:18:50.000 breaks off us, So it doesn't matter, not a rivalry anymore. 0:18:50.160 --> 0:18:52.639 Oh yeah, so I'm sorry to hear that. Well, what 0:18:52.640 --> 0:18:55.920 about so college, Shannon, How Well, you went to seven 0:18:56.040 --> 0:18:58.800 so out of the seven, which I went to school 0:18:58.800 --> 0:19:00.840 for twelve years, but I only went to one college, 0:19:01.080 --> 0:19:06.159 so we are big rival. Yeah. Our big rivalry was 0:19:06.359 --> 0:19:09.360 it was Louisiana Tech. So ULM used to be Northeast 0:19:09.359 --> 0:19:12.840 Louisiana University, and they they used they were really good. 0:19:12.920 --> 0:19:16.960 They would make it to the two A championship game 0:19:17.280 --> 0:19:20.360 pretty fairly regularly back in the back in the eighties 0:19:20.560 --> 0:19:24.400 in early nineties. And then Low Tech jumped from from 0:19:24.440 --> 0:19:28.080 two A to UH Division one, and then they were 0:19:28.080 --> 0:19:30.520 too good for us, so they lined up canceling their 0:19:30.560 --> 0:19:33.280 games because Louisiana Tech and ULM were thirty minutes apart. 0:19:33.680 --> 0:19:37.440 And then we really haven't had a rival really since then, 0:19:37.520 --> 0:19:41.560 like an arch nemesis. So that was it. That's it. 0:19:41.840 --> 0:19:47.000 Cool story, Kurt. I went to Kansas for a little while, 0:19:47.080 --> 0:19:49.440 so it was case stay. Missouri was a big basketball 0:19:49.520 --> 0:19:52.280 rival back then. Um, but then I graduated from a 0:19:52.320 --> 0:19:54.560 little NAI school and I couldn't even tell you who 0:19:54.640 --> 0:20:00.880 their rival was. Wow, all right for me? About the same, Kurt, 0:20:02.200 --> 0:20:04.560 let's talk free agency. You want to talk free agency. 0:20:04.520 --> 0:20:06.040 We'll see if we can get Jesse going on this 0:20:06.080 --> 0:20:07.800 and then go to our third break, our second break. 0:20:07.840 --> 0:20:10.000 You don't do that, Yeah, tell us how we lost 0:20:10.000 --> 0:20:14.240 that to Jesse. Yeah, well, well go ahead Jesse. Actually 0:20:14.640 --> 0:20:24.560 actually so, I'll ask you guys this. This is a 0:20:24.560 --> 0:20:26.960 great question by Kurt because this surprised me too. When 0:20:27.400 --> 0:20:30.320 Xavier Woods went to the Vikings for one year for 0:20:30.359 --> 0:20:33.359 two point two five million, and when you talk about 0:20:33.480 --> 0:20:36.440 defensive backs, that's not a lot of money. That's that's 0:20:36.880 --> 0:20:39.800 that's that's bottom kind of bottom of the barrel for 0:20:40.000 --> 0:20:43.639 a starting safety. Why would they let him go when 0:20:43.680 --> 0:20:47.119 you're already shallow at that at that position? Does that 0:20:47.280 --> 0:20:49.000 is it all tied to the comments that he made 0:20:49.080 --> 0:20:52.160 during the year about the hustling thing, or is it 0:20:52.200 --> 0:20:54.840 just why did he go for such a cheap amount 0:20:57.119 --> 0:21:02.720 waiting on you? Yes? Well, great, thank you for letting 0:21:02.720 --> 0:21:07.119 me go. First, Let's just say that loud and clear, 0:21:07.720 --> 0:21:11.959 the comments that Xavier Woods made did not help him. 0:21:12.000 --> 0:21:14.159 That that wasn't something that when you looked at his 0:21:14.240 --> 0:21:21.040 overall catalog, it stuck out in a negative way. Since 0:21:21.119 --> 0:21:26.200 twenty eighteen, his progression has declined and also we talked 0:21:26.240 --> 0:21:30.600 about the residue of old coaching staffs and old players 0:21:30.680 --> 0:21:34.359 of that coaching staff still lingering around and being around 0:21:34.400 --> 0:21:37.040 and being able to usher them out to bring in 0:21:37.080 --> 0:21:39.200 some new blood. If you're gonna bring dan Quinn in, 0:21:39.560 --> 0:21:41.639 then you're gonna have to allow him to bring players 0:21:41.640 --> 0:21:43.880 that he wants to be a part of his system. 0:21:44.200 --> 0:21:46.960 So for Xavier Woods, especially when you look at the 0:21:46.960 --> 0:21:49.280 way he performed last year, there was a lot of 0:21:49.280 --> 0:21:53.760 buster coverage, a ton of of mis tackles, and I 0:21:53.800 --> 0:21:56.520 think that this team the way that they're looking bringing in, 0:21:58.520 --> 0:22:01.240 bringing in Kyan O'Neil, who's gonna a more you know, 0:22:01.280 --> 0:22:04.280 that linebacker position, and then now maybe move with some 0:22:04.320 --> 0:22:07.760 guys like Donovan Wilson, who they like a lot last year, Keisy, 0:22:07.840 --> 0:22:09.760 who they're broken you know they're gonna bring in, and 0:22:09.800 --> 0:22:13.119 then they'll probably bring someone else in the draft. You 0:22:13.240 --> 0:22:17.520 got some other guys like CJ. C J. Goodson, Sorry Goodwin. 0:22:17.760 --> 0:22:19.520 So there's a lot of guy that will beat in 0:22:19.560 --> 0:22:21.760 the play of that mix. I think for Xavier Woods, 0:22:21.840 --> 0:22:24.760 there was nothing there that they saw that was worth 0:22:24.920 --> 0:22:27.639 keeping him. And I know the price was right, But 0:22:28.240 --> 0:22:31.919 if you're going to change cultures of how things are 0:22:31.960 --> 0:22:34.639 going in the locker room, hopping going in the football field. 0:22:34.840 --> 0:22:37.280 Then you gotta allow dan Quinn to bring some guys 0:22:37.320 --> 0:22:40.359 in that he wants that relates to his system and 0:22:40.520 --> 0:22:43.880 fit into his system. And the one thing that dan 0:22:43.960 --> 0:22:46.399 Quinn wants, he wants guys who are going to be 0:22:46.440 --> 0:22:49.480 able to cover. Again, go back and look at what 0:22:49.600 --> 0:22:51.359 he did when he had the legional boom to what 0:22:51.480 --> 0:22:53.840 he tried to build in Atlanta as well. He's gonna 0:22:53.920 --> 0:22:56.880 want guys that can cover. He's gonna want guys who 0:22:56.960 --> 0:23:01.480 can tackle. And those are the things that Zazias didn't do, 0:23:02.160 --> 0:23:05.240 did not do in the last two years of being 0:23:05.920 --> 0:23:08.960 beat when the Cowboys back in defensive end. So if 0:23:09.000 --> 0:23:13.040 he's not covering well and the willingness to tackle and 0:23:13.119 --> 0:23:16.520 to make tackles, if that's not something he did well 0:23:16.600 --> 0:23:20.119 and that is something that dan Quinn prides his defensive 0:23:20.160 --> 0:23:24.119 backs or doing, then you don't fit in the mold 0:23:24.119 --> 0:23:25.760