WEBVTT - Episode 69: Charmed

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<v Speaker 1>What's up? And you're listening to another episode of Nerve

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<v Speaker 1>Day of a Sad and sitting across from me as

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<v Speaker 1>always is Danny Fernandez, and you're yeah, I didn't say

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<v Speaker 1>my name was gonna try and rectify, but you're already

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<v Speaker 1>on it. I was there. Yeah, tag team partner, tag

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<v Speaker 1>team partner from the top rope into the middle of

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<v Speaker 1>the I don't know enough wrestling to three D Macho

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<v Speaker 1>Man Randy Savage. Yeah, you're you're, you're, you're half wag.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you. I know that all the people who well,

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<v Speaker 1>we already did the wrestling episode. Now I got to

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<v Speaker 1>do the new Japan episode. I almost said Seth Rogan,

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<v Speaker 1>but that's Joe Rogan, and that's different than I'm almost there.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean that was a yeah, double goof. But we're

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<v Speaker 1>not here to talk about wrestling or m A today.

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<v Speaker 1>We're not talking about Stone Cold Steve Austin. That is one.

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<v Speaker 1>That is one. Thank you? Do you do you know

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<v Speaker 1>what is what is famous? Do you know what Austin

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<v Speaker 1>three sixteen stands means? What it's there for? Um? I

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<v Speaker 1>know it's from the Bible. Now, that's that's John three

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<v Speaker 1>six Austin three sixty means something different than the Bible.

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<v Speaker 1>But it's supposed to be a reference to the Bible, right, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it's a reference to the Bible because he had a

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<v Speaker 1>feud with with someone whose whole like persona was like

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<v Speaker 1>he was like this almost like pastor kind of Christian

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<v Speaker 1>person So then he coined the term austin three sixteen

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<v Speaker 1>blankety blank blank blank. Do you know what that is? No,

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<v Speaker 1>it's I just whooped your ass? Okay, what didn't he

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<v Speaker 1>like have a cann of whoop ass? Was that him? No? No? Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>do you think goldberga Goldberg Goldberg? Let's not forget about

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<v Speaker 1>the most famous wrestler move that there is, Rickish or

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<v Speaker 1>wrestler there is Rickishing. No, that's forgettable. Yeah, Rikishi and

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<v Speaker 1>he had the stink face. Yes, that's what it was.

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<v Speaker 1>He he has a a wrestling school out here, Knox Pro.

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<v Speaker 1>My buddy, yeah, my buddy Brett trains there. And I

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<v Speaker 1>went to see one of their, like, uh, their matches

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<v Speaker 1>in Rikishi came out and he hit somebody with a

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<v Speaker 1>stink face, and I was like, we're back. Maybe. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I did have a ten episode show with Xavier Woods. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and um, probably good that I didn't know who he

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<v Speaker 1>was because I was chill about it before were writing

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<v Speaker 1>me like, what the heck? You're friends with Xavier Woods? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>he's just my friend. Is he famous? He is? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>Austin Creed Okay, Xavier Woods Okay from New Day Yeah, ok. Budios, Budios.

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<v Speaker 1>That was That was a gimmick. But we're not here

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<v Speaker 1>to talk about w W or M or Austin three sixteen.

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<v Speaker 1>Did you know? Wait? I want to say one thing

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<v Speaker 1>because it's in my blood. My uncle is world champion

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<v Speaker 1>Brazilian jiu jitsu fighter. You do know that. I know

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<v Speaker 1>that Any used to be all in the b j J. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>so you just removed to j um so different last name.

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<v Speaker 1>But people are going to google. Yeah, it's not in

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<v Speaker 1>my wiki. I don't have a wiki. We're not here

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<v Speaker 1>to talk about M, M A, b J J, w

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<v Speaker 1>W E, Austin three. We're here to talk about today

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<v Speaker 1>the Power of three. The Power of three hit a

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<v Speaker 1>hit w B show. It's called charm. Yeah, and we

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<v Speaker 1>brought our friend Omar Allen to talk about it. How

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<v Speaker 1>you doing good? How are you? How didn't feel to

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<v Speaker 1>sit through all of that? Like based on what you

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<v Speaker 1>thought this podcast was about. And then what you just

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<v Speaker 1>witnessed right and right in front of you, the whole

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<v Speaker 1>wrestling thing, or well, it wasn't like them that, But

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<v Speaker 1>I mean I'm well versed and all of my grew

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<v Speaker 1>up in the nineties. You have wrestling, you had Charmed,

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<v Speaker 1>you had your video games, Game Boy, you had your everything.

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<v Speaker 1>So I'm pretty well rounded when it comes to all that.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh man, Well, before we get into Charmed and all

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<v Speaker 1>that good stuff, we'd like to talk about what we're

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<v Speaker 1>geeking out about this week. So what's your geeking out

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<v Speaker 1>about this week? This week? I'm definitely gegging out about

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<v Speaker 1>all of them, the flash sales at PlayStations having right now.

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<v Speaker 1>I recently started reviewing indie video games UM rating and

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<v Speaker 1>reviewing indie video games. So whenever I catch like a

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<v Speaker 1>flash sale and just an obscure no name title that

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<v Speaker 1>you and your friends have never heard of, I'm just

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<v Speaker 1>on it like that. Yeah that sounds like fun. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>So it's what's an indie title that's kind of caught

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<v Speaker 1>your eye recently? Recently, I've been stuck on Wizards of Legend.

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<v Speaker 1>It's um kind of like a dungeon crawling eight bit

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<v Speaker 1>pixel art game, and it's I've been stuck on Afflictible

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<v Speaker 1>two months. I've been a little obsessed with it. I

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<v Speaker 1>think that this is the first game that I've ever

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<v Speaker 1>got a platinum trophy in, and I've had p S three,

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<v Speaker 1>PS four. I was never like a trophy hunter or anything,

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<v Speaker 1>but I just accidentally got a platinum. Well. I was

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<v Speaker 1>gonna say, did y'all see that Garfield Racing is getting

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<v Speaker 1>a sequel? Did you see that announced? Oh, it's been

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<v Speaker 1>all over the tweets, It's been a twitters and um,

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<v Speaker 1>but this is like, come on, what about Diddikong Racing y'all?

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<v Speaker 1>I will fight for diddy Kong Racing until the day

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<v Speaker 1>I die. Didn't you just bring back Crash? Why he

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<v Speaker 1>was bringing back? Why? What's wrong with my man Diddy?

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<v Speaker 1>And he had conquer in there? You know. I remember

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<v Speaker 1>Conquers Bad for a day because that was the first

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<v Speaker 1>like adult game that was a very explicit scene between

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<v Speaker 1>a b and a flower, and I was like, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>this is Nulty also Banjo Kazooe. Yeah, I mean, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>I'm Garfield is cool. I'll play it. I love all

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<v Speaker 1>the kart games. I'm actually really good. Oh ada so

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<v Speaker 1>we have a mutual friend Christopher Smith Bryant. He's a

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<v Speaker 1>part of the l A Gaming Society which Omar is

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<v Speaker 1>also in UM and he was on our SIMS episode

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<v Speaker 1>and a couple of other episodes. But he had a

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<v Speaker 1>Mario Kart tournament at his place and I beat everybody.

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<v Speaker 1>It was very proud of myself. Who's your driver? Who's

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<v Speaker 1>your main driver? I'm not going to give that secret

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<v Speaker 1>a way actually change it. I don't yeah, yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>you you have a main driver, a kart main uh?

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<v Speaker 1>I mean in Mario Kart is definitely gonna be my

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<v Speaker 1>man's Toad. I feel like he has the flexibility to

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<v Speaker 1>to get where I needing to get and I and

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<v Speaker 1>I like those like newer kind of Formula one style cars,

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<v Speaker 1>but the tiny wheels. I love Toad, But I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know how I feel like they made me because like

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<v Speaker 1>they had all picked already. I feel like they made

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<v Speaker 1>me be Bowser or something. And I hate Bowser too,

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<v Speaker 1>but I won. I don't know. Whenever you crash into

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<v Speaker 1>the back of them, then that like knocks you out,

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<v Speaker 1>like you hit like a banana or walks of the

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<v Speaker 1>spikes on the shell. No one ever expects that like

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<v Speaker 1>the heavier characters. Yeah, okay, here we are. Jenny's trying

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<v Speaker 1>to rush past her geeks. I'm actually getting out about

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<v Speaker 1>a book. I'm reading a book right now. Um it's uh,

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's like a self help book, but that's chill.

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<v Speaker 1>It's Eckart Toles A New Earth, and um I found

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<v Speaker 1>it from listening to old episodes of Super Soul Stunday

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<v Speaker 1>from Oprah, which those are kind of hit or miss

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<v Speaker 1>for me, but this one in particular, she did like

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<v Speaker 1>an entire series on his book, so much so that

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<v Speaker 1>I went and got it and I like it a lot.

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<v Speaker 1>It talks about your pain body, which is something that

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<v Speaker 1>I relate to heavily, how we live with trauma and

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<v Speaker 1>how uh we kind of like that we to like

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<v Speaker 1>separate ourselves from that that doesn't like define us, and

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<v Speaker 1>how a lot of times you'll meet someone else that

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<v Speaker 1>has a pain body similar to you, and that's how

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<v Speaker 1>people get in like abusive relationships or they carry that

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<v Speaker 1>from when their children. Um, it's really fascinating. A New Earth. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it's called a New Earth and uh, yeah, it was great.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean I've just been listening to it NonStop. Another

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<v Speaker 1>one that I recommend, especially if you're in the creative space.

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<v Speaker 1>And I've read this three different times is Big Magic

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<v Speaker 1>by Liz Gilbert. It is so good if you are

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<v Speaker 1>a writer, especially because she's a writer. She's the one

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<v Speaker 1>that did Eat, Pray, Love, and a bunch of other books.

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<v Speaker 1>But it is so great for creative artists who are stuck.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, she's just I I've read it. I have

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<v Speaker 1>the audio book of it. I just like I wanted

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<v Speaker 1>to listen to it in my car. It's it's really

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<v Speaker 1>great for uh, for kind of helping you get out

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<v Speaker 1>of your own head and whatever stopping you from pursuing

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<v Speaker 1>a creative life. So yeah, those are mine. Yeah, and

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<v Speaker 1>and mine is you know, uh, it's gonna be something

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<v Speaker 1>you should you should know about this by the time

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<v Speaker 1>this episode drops. And if not, this is the first

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<v Speaker 1>you're gonna hear of it. And don't make it hot,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, don't make it hot. That is coming. But um,

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<v Speaker 1>I am the new host of twitches show fresh Stock,

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<v Speaker 1>which is a sneaker show live on Twitch on Thursdays. Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>And while you're listening to this, I'm in New York.

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<v Speaker 1>Probably have a show. Probably check my Twitter and see

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<v Speaker 1>if I'm around you, but I'll be up in New York.

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<v Speaker 1>But I'll be up in New York. Uh Uh. This

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<v Speaker 1>at this point would be this past weekend. UH doing

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<v Speaker 1>a segment for the NBA two K League Finals, talking

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<v Speaker 1>to them about you know, basketball sports games. You know

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<v Speaker 1>a game genre that admittedly I don't play much of.

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<v Speaker 1>What I do love sneakers, and we're gonna bena be

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<v Speaker 1>talking about kicks. It's gonna be interesting to side and

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<v Speaker 1>what kicks i'd bring up to New York because I

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<v Speaker 1>don't like traveling with like my like super dope kicks.

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<v Speaker 1>I think I'm bringing the sakis up because our friend

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<v Speaker 1>friend of the pote has the skis and a different color.

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<v Speaker 1>So we're gonna be matchy boys. I'm gonna force him

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<v Speaker 1>to do that with me too. Nigerians. But yeah, so

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<v Speaker 1>I'm really hyped about that. Definitely tune in on Thursdays

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<v Speaker 1>on the Twitch. I'll be uh posting it online. We're

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<v Speaker 1>talking sneakers. If you like sneakers and if you like

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<v Speaker 1>you know, nerdy stuff, that's where you need to be. Yo.

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<v Speaker 1>Did you see that photo shoot I did though with

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<v Speaker 1>my sneakers? Were you proud of me, Oh, yeah, those

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<v Speaker 1>are the ones. I uh you. I remember when you

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<v Speaker 1>were telling me about those sneakers and I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>those do look like DBZ sneakers? Yeah? Those are great.

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<v Speaker 1>They look like Bolma from Dragon Ball And I got him,

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<v Speaker 1>uh and ever I felt bad because I got him

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<v Speaker 1>a couple of months ago, but I didn't want to

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<v Speaker 1>wear them until I had time to shoot in them.

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<v Speaker 1>So I finally went out and did this photo shoot.

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<v Speaker 1>They were super dope. Um you can check out my

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<v Speaker 1>if you're in l A and you want to shoot

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<v Speaker 1>with the artist that did it, highly recommend um Mackenzie Lenora.

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<v Speaker 1>All of her stuff is on there on my thing.

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<v Speaker 1>But I didn't wear them for a couple of months.

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<v Speaker 1>So I felt bad when I dropped that photo shoot

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<v Speaker 1>because I was like, where can I get these? And

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<v Speaker 1>they're all sold out. They've been sold out for like

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<v Speaker 1>two months for a while. Now you can check stock

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<v Speaker 1>x see if they got Yeah, that's true, they don't,

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<v Speaker 1>but I looked. I try to send people a leak,

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<v Speaker 1>but maybe they do now I don't know. Um, we're

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<v Speaker 1>talking about Charmed. Speaking of the magic of shoes, let's

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<v Speaker 1>talk about the magic of sisterhood. Let's talk about the

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<v Speaker 1>magic of being a hit w B show for eight seasons,

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<v Speaker 1>started in the nineties up until I graduated high school

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<v Speaker 1>in two thousand and six. Yeah, there's a really long time.

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<v Speaker 1>Were you watching it that whole time? Omar, Definitely. I

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<v Speaker 1>didn't watch it in order, which I kind of hate it,

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<v Speaker 1>like because growing up you would just catch like real

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<v Speaker 1>you never knew when um just growing up, I just

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<v Speaker 1>came into like the middle of list series, but catching

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<v Speaker 1>on FX every morning they would show like rerun, so

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<v Speaker 1>I would watch it before I would go to school

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<v Speaker 1>every day. Eventually, once Netflix and streaming we became a

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<v Speaker 1>thing and I didn't have to buy like box sets anymore.

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<v Speaker 1>I just sat down and just benched watch the entire

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<v Speaker 1>series after like two or three months, and that was

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<v Speaker 1>my new like show that I would go to really,

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<v Speaker 1>So that's yeah, because it does feel like everyone has

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<v Speaker 1>their one show that they will just rewatch as many

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<v Speaker 1>times that Like for my sister and Heiro, it's uh friends.

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<v Speaker 1>She likes friends in the office because those are the

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<v Speaker 1>office people. The office is great. I love it, but man,

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<v Speaker 1>they're just like, instead of watching a new series, they

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<v Speaker 1>just go back to the office mins like Scrubs or

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<v Speaker 1>Charge is good. Scrubs is good throwback. But you know,

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<v Speaker 1>we're gonna get the nitty griddy out of the way

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<v Speaker 1>like I normally do at the top of every episode

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<v Speaker 1>and give you the you know, straight up breakdown, which

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<v Speaker 1>is the fact that. Charmed is an American fantasy drama

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<v Speaker 1>television series created by Constance Emberge and produced by Aaron

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<v Speaker 1>Spelling and his production company, Spelling Television, with Brad Kern

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<v Speaker 1>serving as showrunner. The series originally was broadcast by the

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<v Speaker 1>WB for eight seasons from October until May twenty one,

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<v Speaker 1>two thousand and six. The series narrative follows a trio

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<v Speaker 1>of sisters known as the Charmed Ones, the most powerful

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<v Speaker 1>good witches of all time, who use their combined power

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<v Speaker 1>of three to protect innocent lives from evil beings such

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<v Speaker 1>as demons and warlocks. Each sister possesses unique magical powers

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<v Speaker 1>that grow and evolve while they attempt to maintain normal

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<v Speaker 1>lives in modern day San Francisco. Keeping their supernatural identity

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<v Speaker 1>separate and secret from their ordinary lives often becomes a

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<v Speaker 1>challenge for them. They're like Spider Man, but sisters, Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>this is that I added that one with the exposure

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<v Speaker 1>of magic, having far reaching consequences on their various relationships

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<v Speaker 1>and resulting in a number of police and FBI investigations

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<v Speaker 1>throughout the series. The series initially focused on the three

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<v Speaker 1>Halliwell sisters Prue, Piper, and Phoebe. Following Who's death in

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<v Speaker 1>the third season finale spoiler alert, their long lost half sister,

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<v Speaker 1>Page Matthews assumes her place within the Power of Three

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<v Speaker 1>from season four onwards. I'm gonna run that back. Prue

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<v Speaker 1>was Shannon Doherty, Piper was Holly Marie Combs, and Phoebe

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<v Speaker 1>was a Lissa Milana. This is a wild because I

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<v Speaker 1>can't wait to yeah, which that was a big deal. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I can't wait to see what was the real reason

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<v Speaker 1>Prue ended up dying, which I think might smell either

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<v Speaker 1>contract or I mean, Shannon Doherty might have been getting

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<v Speaker 1>that movie check and was like I'm out. Yeah. So

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<v Speaker 1>the w B, which is now the c W, and

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, why is it called that? I never

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<v Speaker 1>realized why is it called the c W? Yeah? Do

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<v Speaker 1>you know why? It's CBS and WB combining, So they

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<v Speaker 1>took the C in the w That's why. I It's

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<v Speaker 1>very simple and easy thing that I had no idea about. Yeah. Right,

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<v Speaker 1>So anyways, and now we have the new Charmed which

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<v Speaker 1>is on CWW. Yes, did you have a particular character

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<v Speaker 1>that you gravitated towards? Definitely Piper. And Piper was just bad.

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<v Speaker 1>She could control time. She just flash her hands at

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<v Speaker 1>you everything with stuff. She could also just blow stuff up.

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<v Speaker 1>She points at you and just make explosions appear out

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<v Speaker 1>of her hands. And she was just like kind of

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<v Speaker 1>like the leader. She was the older sister of everybody,

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<v Speaker 1>and she was just She's just badass all around. Would

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<v Speaker 1>you say that the fan base that that's their favorite.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you think the fan base has a favorite? I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know. I just feel like depending on your personality

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<v Speaker 1>and your nature and who you are, you're going to

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<v Speaker 1>gravitate towards one system more than another because out they

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<v Speaker 1>have their own like things in their personal lives that

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<v Speaker 1>make them each unique. Like Page is always going through

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<v Speaker 1>relationship drama because she's like excuse me, um Phoebe is

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<v Speaker 1>always going through relationship drama because she's an impath or

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<v Speaker 1>um Page is focused on her career, and Pipers like

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<v Speaker 1>worried about mother like parenthood and trying to like lead

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<v Speaker 1>a normal life and like lead a well rounded life

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<v Speaker 1>for her children. So depending on what you're going through

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<v Speaker 1>in life, you could definitely like gravitate more towards one

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<v Speaker 1>than the other. But she was definitely like the role

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<v Speaker 1>model in my opinion. I was always adjacent to this,

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<v Speaker 1>Like I didn't really grow up watching the original Charms,

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<v Speaker 1>but it was my understanding that everybody, not everybody, but

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<v Speaker 1>I thought it was like Alissa Milano was like a

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<v Speaker 1>big deal. Yeah, this was like my mom's and her

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<v Speaker 1>sister's like favorite show. So like I definitely wasn't like

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<v Speaker 1>going to see it, but I was forced to see

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<v Speaker 1>it because you know, they had the TV on locks.

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, all right, I guess I'll watch episodes,

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<v Speaker 1>which y'all see. The interesting part about Elissa Milano's character

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<v Speaker 1>is that she was a half witch half white Lighter,

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<v Speaker 1>which is basically like a guardian angel to the witches.

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<v Speaker 1>So each one each which is assigned like a guardian angel,

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<v Speaker 1>and that's who like watches over them and guides them

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<v Speaker 1>through like becoming in a witch. So she was like

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<v Speaker 1>not supposed to happen, because you're not supposed to fall

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<v Speaker 1>in love with a white Lighter and she's like the

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<v Speaker 1>forbidden child, so she she had a lot going for

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<v Speaker 1>as well, so I could see that being a fan favorite. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>She also had a romantic relationship with fellow employee Leslie

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<v Speaker 1>st Clair Nick Lache talk to talk me through this. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>Ni was her was her a significant other for a

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<v Speaker 1>good while. Believe he was killed by a demon unfortunately

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<v Speaker 1>sounds like it, yes, but um, yeah he was. I

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<v Speaker 1>was gonna say, he looks so much like an angel,

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<v Speaker 1>like who da Yes, Nick Lash and David looks so

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<v Speaker 1>much alike that it was the same time Angel. I

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<v Speaker 1>think was also out right because it was after Buffy,

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<v Speaker 1>So I feel like they were just grabbing all those

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<v Speaker 1>dudes with the strong jaws to the upfronts and be

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<v Speaker 1>like they're like alternate universe versions of each other. Um okay,

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<v Speaker 1>so yeah, So so you talked a little bit about

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<v Speaker 1>some of their powers. What about Prue. Prue she had

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<v Speaker 1>she was a telepath, so she was able to move

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<v Speaker 1>things with her mind. Um. She also died, and at

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<v Speaker 1>the end of the season four, she died, and that's

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<v Speaker 1>when things got at wonky because it's all about the

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<v Speaker 1>power three and sisterhood and without there being three Charmed Ones,

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<v Speaker 1>their powers don't work. So there was this weird little

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<v Speaker 1>hiatus where they're trying to figure out what like, if

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<v Speaker 1>we're not the Charmed Ones, then who are we? What

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<v Speaker 1>are we? And then they find out that their mom

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<v Speaker 1>had this secret affair. That's when Melissa Milano comes in.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh wait, that's when McGowan. McGowan, excusence. But if we're

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<v Speaker 1>for those who are like what happened behind the scenes.

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<v Speaker 1>So Sannon Aherty, who who plays Prue, was coming hot

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<v Speaker 1>off the heels of a great career. She was on

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<v Speaker 1>Beverly Hills nine one Oh, she had cloud she came up,

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<v Speaker 1>but she also had a record of being a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit of a diva. She apparently on set she was

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<v Speaker 1>having like just straight out lashing out at people, and

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<v Speaker 1>it's rumored that her and Jenny Garth through hands like

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<v Speaker 1>they like, that's how intense it got. So then that

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<v Speaker 1>was Beverly Hills, Yes, yes, yes, yeah, but um but

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<v Speaker 1>so she goes on to UM two Charmed and then

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<v Speaker 1>her and her and Enlist Milano did not get along

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<v Speaker 1>and so eventually it kind of ramped up to the

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<v Speaker 1>point that that they just ended up. I don't think

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<v Speaker 1>she got the boot. I think Shannon dipped. Uh, you

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<v Speaker 1>know it's all hazy because you know it's all it

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<v Speaker 1>says here. Well, that is true, it says here on Charm.

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<v Speaker 1>She was allegedly fired by producer Aaron Spelling after an

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<v Speaker 1>ultimatum from Milano. So Milano said, and I'm sure that

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<v Speaker 1>there's an etrue Hollywood story about this. I'm sure the

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<v Speaker 1>that just shows like the transfer of cloud, Like that's

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<v Speaker 1>the thing is when you when you get spicy and

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<v Speaker 1>then the cloud transferred to one a Listen, Milano, she

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<v Speaker 1>can be the one that's like, which one you pick?

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<v Speaker 1>I wonder if it's different not like you know, anytime

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<v Speaker 1>I hear that a woman is difficult on set, I'm like,

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<v Speaker 1>show me receipts. What did she do? You know? Um?

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<v Speaker 1>And because I feel like, you know, sometimes women get

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<v Speaker 1>a bad rep for doing the same exact thing that

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<v Speaker 1>men do, but men get away with it and are

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<v Speaker 1>often kept um and so well, she told people, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not saying I don't have my moments of bitchiness because

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<v Speaker 1>everyone has them, but it's never for no reason. And

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<v Speaker 1>I also went on to say, I've always been a

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<v Speaker 1>ballsy kid. I know it pisses some people off, but

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<v Speaker 1>it isn't the end result much better? Yea, she sounds

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<v Speaker 1>like she might have been running her mouth. You know.

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<v Speaker 1>It's it's funny because it is that thing of like,

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<v Speaker 1>there's the assertiveness and where we should just call this

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<v Speaker 1>tea time whenever where Uh, we don't always get drama

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<v Speaker 1>with everything that we are covering, so but it does

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<v Speaker 1>say here um. For her part, she has admitted to

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<v Speaker 1>making mistakes, blaming her behavior on the pressures of fame,

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<v Speaker 1>her youth, and problems in her personal life. The thing

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<v Speaker 1>about youth is you and I know young people who

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<v Speaker 1>are famous who don't act like this, So like I

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<v Speaker 1>get it to some extent, but this is such nineties drama.

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<v Speaker 1>We're actually going to take a really quick break and

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<v Speaker 1>then we're gonna hop back into the messiness and the

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<v Speaker 1>beautifulness that is Charmed right after these messages and we're back.

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<v Speaker 1>So yeah. Charmed actually had a cult following, and with

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<v Speaker 1>its first episode that dropped on the WB something wicked

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<v Speaker 1>this way comes. I imagine though that the actual witch community,

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<v Speaker 1>probably because that was an issue now, so the charm

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<v Speaker 1>now was very important. I think they have a Breuja

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<v Speaker 1>that's on it. As a writer, it's very important I

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<v Speaker 1>know that you're not just using witchcraft and that, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>for TV or whatever, when this is actually people's beliefs.

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<v Speaker 1>So but also I can imagine like one million moms

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<v Speaker 1>not being okay with it. My mom, that might have

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<v Speaker 1>been a reason I didn't really watch it. My family

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<v Speaker 1>is super Catholic and anything that involved Auji board which

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<v Speaker 1>they had and stuff, yeah, I mean they're weird about it.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I don't mess with wegi bards either. I

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<v Speaker 1>love some charms. But if I go on someone's house

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<v Speaker 1>and there's a Weiji board there, I'm leaving. I was

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<v Speaker 1>at I was at a party and it was like

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<v Speaker 1>a witch party in quotes or whatever, and people had

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<v Speaker 1>someone posted in the Facebook group, oh we have a

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<v Speaker 1>I'm going to bring a Wegi board, And I said,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not going to go. I don't blame if I'm there,

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<v Speaker 1>you will contact somebody if you know that I'm spooky

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<v Speaker 1>and haunted. Yeah, you're very spooky, very haunted. So Charmed

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<v Speaker 1>was the second highest rated series on the WB behind

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<v Speaker 1>Seventh Heaven. Totally forgot about that show. Wow, those are

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<v Speaker 1>two totally separate shows. You have an extremely Christian show.

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<v Speaker 1>Did you watch Seventh Heaven two? Okay, no, did you

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<v Speaker 1>watch Seventh Heaven? Uh? Actually I did. I was watching

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<v Speaker 1>it pretty pretty religiously as a kid, pun intended. And

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<v Speaker 1>then like those twins got involved in for some reason.

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<v Speaker 1>They thought it was a good idea that they always

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<v Speaker 1>would talk at the same time, but they weren't good actors,

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<v Speaker 1>so it was always off, just two kids trying to win.

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<v Speaker 1>It was very bad. But yeah, no, I was deep

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<v Speaker 1>in Seventh Heaven. I was. I was watching like Jessica

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<v Speaker 1>Bill of course. Okay, okay, no, I mean I did too.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh so um. In two thousand six, Charing became the

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<v Speaker 1>longest running hour long an hour long long episodes. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>getting kids to watch that is that's impressive. It became

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<v Speaker 1>the longest running hour long television series featuring all female

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<v Speaker 1>leads and uh and then was later surpassed surpassed by

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<v Speaker 1>Desperate Housewives in so omar, why don't you hit us

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<v Speaker 1>off with some of your favorite episode was just to

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<v Speaker 1>give you know, a viewing guide for anyone who's like

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<v Speaker 1>jumping in and and want to just check out some

0:24:05.960 --> 0:24:10.000
<v Speaker 1>maps to get them, you know, sucked into the Charmed Life. UM.

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<v Speaker 1>So one of my favorite episodes would definitely have to

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<v Speaker 1>be when Phoebe she was dating a demon named Cole,

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<v Speaker 1>and it was a really hectic on again off a

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<v Speaker 1>game relationship and secrets on both sides. Because she can't

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<v Speaker 1>give up her secret that she's a witch and her

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<v Speaker 1>sisterhood and everything. He can't give up his secret that

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<v Speaker 1>he's a demon, going for kiding. Everybody knows this about

0:24:32.800 --> 0:24:38.040
<v Speaker 1>them but them basically, ok um, that he's a demon

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<v Speaker 1>and trying to be king of the underworld and go

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<v Speaker 1>for the release the source of all evil upon mankind.

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<v Speaker 1>And I'm sorry, Are they in college? No, they're they're

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<v Speaker 1>all out of college. Actually, I'm trying to figure out

0:24:50.520 --> 0:24:54.200
<v Speaker 1>their age. Um, so it's like mid twenties to early thirties.

0:24:55.000 --> 0:24:59.080
<v Speaker 1>Phoebe actually went back to school. Um in a later season,

0:24:59.480 --> 0:25:03.280
<v Speaker 1>probably season three or four. But yes, um, she was

0:25:03.359 --> 0:25:07.280
<v Speaker 1>dating a demon named Cole who was played by h.

0:25:07.520 --> 0:25:12.320
<v Speaker 1>Julian McMahon which I totally butchered his last name. But

0:25:12.400 --> 0:25:14.159
<v Speaker 1>you know him from niptok. He was one of the

0:25:14.200 --> 0:25:19.800
<v Speaker 1>main doctors. Oh my gosh, yes, wow. And he's in

0:25:19.960 --> 0:25:23.840
<v Speaker 1>something else recently. Oh, he's in um. Oh the Marvel

0:25:24.080 --> 0:25:28.680
<v Speaker 1>the Runaways. I think, yes, yes, the tech guy, oh

0:25:28.760 --> 0:25:33.440
<v Speaker 1>super dope okay, um so yes. They eventually the secrets

0:25:33.480 --> 0:25:36.760
<v Speaker 1>get out and they discover that well, he's always known

0:25:36.800 --> 0:25:39.919
<v Speaker 1>all along that he fell in love with the charmed

0:25:40.080 --> 0:25:43.960
<v Speaker 1>the charmed wing Phoebe, And once the sisters find out,

0:25:44.000 --> 0:25:47.280
<v Speaker 1>they have to vanquish him, and it's up to Phoebe

0:25:47.320 --> 0:25:49.479
<v Speaker 1>to throw like the last vial. And I just remember

0:25:49.520 --> 0:25:52.400
<v Speaker 1>this heart wrenching episode of the first two sisters throw

0:25:52.440 --> 0:25:54.560
<v Speaker 1>the vials down on the ground and the smokes like

0:25:54.640 --> 0:25:57.439
<v Speaker 1>starts coming up to dragon the hill and she's like

0:25:58.119 --> 0:26:00.639
<v Speaker 1>crying and sobbing, and she just can't do it, but

0:26:00.680 --> 0:26:03.840
<v Speaker 1>she knows she has to, and she finally throw musters

0:26:03.880 --> 0:26:06.000
<v Speaker 1>up the courage to throw it, and that was it,

0:26:06.200 --> 0:26:08.920
<v Speaker 1>and that they had vanquished him like four or five

0:26:09.000 --> 0:26:11.440
<v Speaker 1>times before, because like I said, it was like on again,

0:26:11.480 --> 0:26:14.600
<v Speaker 1>off again, but this final time when they were just like, no,

0:26:14.800 --> 0:26:17.000
<v Speaker 1>we we have to get rid of him. He's too strong.

0:26:17.560 --> 0:26:19.960
<v Speaker 1>It was it was heartbreaking because like you were kind

0:26:19.960 --> 0:26:22.080
<v Speaker 1>of fighting for her. She was just like she was.

0:26:22.240 --> 0:26:24.200
<v Speaker 1>She was an impath. She wore a heart on her sleeve,

0:26:24.280 --> 0:26:27.480
<v Speaker 1>and like you were, she felt everything more than everybody.

0:26:27.560 --> 0:26:30.720
<v Speaker 1>So you you were rooting for and just to watch

0:26:31.280 --> 0:26:34.320
<v Speaker 1>like that crumble apart and then her have to like

0:26:34.640 --> 0:26:37.280
<v Speaker 1>rebuild her love life and everything afterwards. It was it

0:26:37.359 --> 0:26:41.480
<v Speaker 1>was amazing episode. Okay, but wait, it says he later

0:26:41.520 --> 0:26:44.400
<v Speaker 1>returns for a guest appearance in the season seven episode

0:26:44.440 --> 0:26:47.479
<v Speaker 1>The Seven Year, which where it has revealed his spirit

0:26:47.560 --> 0:26:50.800
<v Speaker 1>is trapped between realms. People really must have liked. What

0:26:50.840 --> 0:26:53.440
<v Speaker 1>that means to me is people really liked him because

0:26:53.440 --> 0:26:57.439
<v Speaker 1>they kept bringing him back. Um, but yeah, he didn't.

0:26:57.600 --> 0:27:00.280
<v Speaker 1>He came back for that one episode. Yeah, just as spirit,

0:27:00.359 --> 0:27:02.520
<v Speaker 1>but he wasn't. They finally got rid of him because

0:27:02.520 --> 0:27:05.080
<v Speaker 1>he was he was hard as hell to kill. He

0:27:05.200 --> 0:27:08.560
<v Speaker 1>was that one character who which just just kept coming back. Okay,

0:27:08.600 --> 0:27:10.640
<v Speaker 1>So yeah, so what are some of your other favorite moments?

0:27:11.040 --> 0:27:14.480
<v Speaker 1>Definitely the Big finale or the final battle. They I

0:27:14.600 --> 0:27:18.119
<v Speaker 1>hate to keep skipping around like this, but it's just, um,

0:27:18.240 --> 0:27:22.000
<v Speaker 1>they discovered that they had They took on an apprentice

0:27:22.600 --> 0:27:25.920
<v Speaker 1>named Billy and then her sister who ended up becoming

0:27:26.040 --> 0:27:29.000
<v Speaker 1>the source. Yeah, can you tell people what the sources like?

0:27:29.040 --> 0:27:32.359
<v Speaker 1>What that means? So the sources basically like the greatest evil,

0:27:32.440 --> 0:27:35.159
<v Speaker 1>That's what the charmed ones are made to that's what

0:27:35.200 --> 0:27:39.000
<v Speaker 1>they're destined to fight there. It's the source of all

0:27:39.160 --> 0:27:42.720
<v Speaker 1>magic itself, so whoever gets their hands on it, basically

0:27:42.800 --> 0:27:46.400
<v Speaker 1>it's whether it's used for good or evil. It's it's

0:27:46.440 --> 0:27:49.680
<v Speaker 1>like raw energy, raw power, which is where they all

0:27:49.800 --> 0:27:54.200
<v Speaker 1>draw everything from. And UM, that's that's where that's who

0:27:54.200 --> 0:27:57.400
<v Speaker 1>they're destined to fight. UM. So, like I was saying,

0:27:57.400 --> 0:28:00.960
<v Speaker 1>at the season finale of the entire series, there was

0:28:01.080 --> 0:28:07.320
<v Speaker 1>apprentice named Christie. Christie and her sister had been taken

0:28:07.359 --> 0:28:12.919
<v Speaker 1>hostage by I believe it was the the The assistant

0:28:12.960 --> 0:28:16.439
<v Speaker 1>was Billy Right and her sister who ended up working

0:28:16.480 --> 0:28:19.280
<v Speaker 1>for her sister. Christie ended up working for the Source

0:28:19.840 --> 0:28:23.560
<v Speaker 1>and UM and being manipulated by them when they were kidnapped. UM,

0:28:23.560 --> 0:28:25.520
<v Speaker 1>when they kidnapped her from a very young age to

0:28:25.640 --> 0:28:28.640
<v Speaker 1>like because she was like one of the most powerful

0:28:28.680 --> 0:28:34.720
<v Speaker 1>witches out there. UM. At the final battle, Piper and

0:28:34.760 --> 0:28:40.120
<v Speaker 1>the other Piper, Phoebe and Page, they lost everything. Their

0:28:40.120 --> 0:28:43.719
<v Speaker 1>house literally exploded in like this ultimate battle, and that

0:28:43.800 --> 0:28:48.240
<v Speaker 1>was like they're everything, the magic, the books, the everything

0:28:48.320 --> 0:28:50.920
<v Speaker 1>was just destroyed and at the end it was just

0:28:51.480 --> 0:28:54.480
<v Speaker 1>her and her husband, who was later returned to her

0:28:55.160 --> 0:28:59.120
<v Speaker 1>um because he was her husband, was their white lighter

0:28:59.200 --> 0:29:01.600
<v Speaker 1>and their protector, and he kind of came and he

0:29:01.680 --> 0:29:04.880
<v Speaker 1>was just like whoa, Like everything's like destroyed, and he

0:29:04.960 --> 0:29:08.120
<v Speaker 1>took them out. He took Piper out, and there was

0:29:08.160 --> 0:29:11.040
<v Speaker 1>nothing that she thought she lost everything. But of course,

0:29:11.200 --> 0:29:14.800
<v Speaker 1>like so season finale of a w B show back

0:29:14.840 --> 0:29:17.640
<v Speaker 1>then you get your everything wrapped up in a nice

0:29:17.640 --> 0:29:21.920
<v Speaker 1>little bow and everyone got what they wanted in the end,

0:29:22.040 --> 0:29:24.440
<v Speaker 1>but it was it was a little heart wrenching at

0:29:24.440 --> 0:29:26.160
<v Speaker 1>the moment where you're just like, oh my god, did

0:29:26.160 --> 0:29:29.600
<v Speaker 1>her sisters die? Isn't just her that's left? What's what's happening.

0:29:30.920 --> 0:29:33.680
<v Speaker 1>Something that I didn't realize is that there's Charmed comic

0:29:33.800 --> 0:29:38.320
<v Speaker 1>books and those actually worked. So with the series finale,

0:29:38.520 --> 0:29:40.800
<v Speaker 1>which we said what it ended in two thousand and six,

0:29:41.400 --> 0:29:44.120
<v Speaker 1>that there was comic books that were released in that

0:29:44.160 --> 0:29:47.960
<v Speaker 1>were a continuation of the television series, and it's actually

0:29:48.000 --> 0:29:51.160
<v Speaker 1>set eighteen months after the events of the final episode

0:29:51.160 --> 0:29:54.480
<v Speaker 1>Forever Charmed. Paul Rudatis was the lead writer for the

0:29:54.480 --> 0:29:57.320
<v Speaker 1>first series, and Raven Gregory helped him co write the

0:29:57.360 --> 0:30:01.320
<v Speaker 1>first three issues. The second and final comic book series,

0:30:01.800 --> 0:30:06.000
<v Speaker 1>Charms Season ten debuted at New York Comic Con. That's

0:30:06.040 --> 0:30:09.680
<v Speaker 1>so fascinating. So it was like they were literally called

0:30:09.840 --> 0:30:13.040
<v Speaker 1>Charm season nine and Charm season ten. I just think

0:30:13.040 --> 0:30:16.600
<v Speaker 1>that's so like, who does that? Who would do that? Now? Like,

0:30:16.640 --> 0:30:18.520
<v Speaker 1>if show got canceled, what does the show recently that

0:30:18.600 --> 0:30:23.080
<v Speaker 1>got canceled? Can you imagine like them continuing it on

0:30:23.120 --> 0:30:26.040
<v Speaker 1>with comic books? Yeah, well then you remember they did

0:30:26.080 --> 0:30:28.600
<v Speaker 1>that with Buffy, So that, like w B already was

0:30:28.680 --> 0:30:31.680
<v Speaker 1>kind of like I thought Buffy was completely different, not

0:30:31.720 --> 0:30:33.320
<v Speaker 1>completely different, but I don't know that it was a

0:30:33.320 --> 0:30:38.200
<v Speaker 1>continuation of Like right after she ended that, the comic

0:30:38.240 --> 0:30:41.480
<v Speaker 1>book was then you know what I mean, just picks

0:30:41.560 --> 0:30:43.920
<v Speaker 1>up where you can like essentially fan fiction where you

0:30:43.920 --> 0:30:46.840
<v Speaker 1>can sit on. I feel like if Supernatural ever got canceled,

0:30:47.160 --> 0:30:50.240
<v Speaker 1>it would do that. Supernatural has been on for years. Look,

0:30:50.240 --> 0:30:54.200
<v Speaker 1>Brooklyn nine nine could have had a comic book up everyone.

0:30:54.440 --> 0:30:56.760
<v Speaker 1>You didn't have to say it now, I'm just kidding. Uh.

0:30:56.920 --> 0:31:02.239
<v Speaker 1>There was also several board games of Charmed. Um, did

0:31:02.320 --> 0:31:04.240
<v Speaker 1>you ever get to play any of those? Omar? I

0:31:04.560 --> 0:31:06.320
<v Speaker 1>did not know, but I thought we can go on

0:31:06.360 --> 0:31:09.760
<v Speaker 1>eBay and find some. The show's first board game, Charmed

0:31:09.880 --> 0:31:12.200
<v Speaker 1>the Book of Shadows. I love that people are just

0:31:12.240 --> 0:31:15.040
<v Speaker 1>like just low key being a part of the occult.

0:31:16.560 --> 0:31:18.800
<v Speaker 1>If you bought the DVD box set, it came in

0:31:18.840 --> 0:31:21.280
<v Speaker 1>a giant book of spell like a spell book, the

0:31:21.280 --> 0:31:25.240
<v Speaker 1>Book of Shadows, and each like little page was a

0:31:25.320 --> 0:31:28.440
<v Speaker 1>sleeve for your DVDs. It was it wasn't joking around,

0:31:28.520 --> 0:31:33.720
<v Speaker 1>gonna I know, not kidding your little Lucy's gonna start

0:31:33.760 --> 0:31:38.800
<v Speaker 1>speaking in tongues. And and honestly, the box set this

0:31:38.920 --> 0:31:41.880
<v Speaker 1>is kind of cool. The complete series box set that

0:31:41.960 --> 0:31:44.920
<v Speaker 1>was re released had all four sisters on it. So

0:31:44.960 --> 0:31:47.240
<v Speaker 1>some of these other characters that were really important to charm.

0:31:47.320 --> 0:31:50.680
<v Speaker 1>So Darryl Morris, he was a lieutenant. He was a

0:31:50.680 --> 0:31:53.680
<v Speaker 1>lieutenant for the police department. And because they're the Charmed

0:31:53.680 --> 0:31:56.720
<v Speaker 1>Ones and they're protecting San Francisco from all of the

0:31:57.560 --> 0:31:59.800
<v Speaker 1>ghouls and goblins and demons that are out just like

0:32:00.040 --> 0:32:04.320
<v Speaker 1>murdering people. Uh, he kept noticing that these three sisters

0:32:04.320 --> 0:32:07.360
<v Speaker 1>would show up at all of his cases, and eventually,

0:32:07.400 --> 0:32:11.080
<v Speaker 1>a nosy cop, he ends up discovering their secret and

0:32:11.400 --> 0:32:17.040
<v Speaker 1>they can only basically erase his memory or like stop

0:32:17.120 --> 0:32:20.560
<v Speaker 1>him from trying to pry on there. He basically became

0:32:20.560 --> 0:32:22.160
<v Speaker 1>an issue to where it was just like, look, we

0:32:22.240 --> 0:32:26.560
<v Speaker 1>either have to trust him with our secret and or

0:32:26.600 --> 0:32:28.120
<v Speaker 1>we have to get rid of him. And he was

0:32:28.160 --> 0:32:32.200
<v Speaker 1>such a nice person and his his wife and everybody,

0:32:32.280 --> 0:32:36.280
<v Speaker 1>they basically the charmed ones. They trust that he was

0:32:36.280 --> 0:32:38.240
<v Speaker 1>the only mortal that they trusted with with his with

0:32:38.320 --> 0:32:40.520
<v Speaker 1>their secret. I love it because it says at the

0:32:40.640 --> 0:32:42.760
<v Speaker 1>end of season seven, Darryl and his family moved to

0:32:42.760 --> 0:32:46.000
<v Speaker 1>the East Coast. That was like the writers. That was

0:32:46.040 --> 0:32:50.320
<v Speaker 1>like the writer's solution of like, this guy knows about

0:32:50.360 --> 0:32:52.560
<v Speaker 1>them and he can either do something or they can

0:32:52.600 --> 0:32:55.560
<v Speaker 1>only wipe his brain like so many times, and they

0:32:55.600 --> 0:32:58.040
<v Speaker 1>trust him. It does say that they eventually considered him

0:32:58.080 --> 0:33:01.120
<v Speaker 1>part of their family. He was like the brother. Basically

0:33:01.240 --> 0:33:03.520
<v Speaker 1>they were like, we don't need you anymore. Moved to

0:33:03.560 --> 0:33:05.320
<v Speaker 1>the East Coast. I think it just got too much

0:33:05.360 --> 0:33:07.680
<v Speaker 1>for him. He was a brother and all this witchcraft

0:33:07.720 --> 0:33:09.320
<v Speaker 1>and stuff going on. He has to get out of

0:33:09.320 --> 0:33:11.200
<v Speaker 1>there and move his families somewhere. Sick. I mean, if

0:33:11.200 --> 0:33:15.000
<v Speaker 1>San Frandisco is haunted, I can understand the Halloway sisters.

0:33:15.040 --> 0:33:17.960
<v Speaker 1>White Lighter, is that what we talked about? A guardian angel? Yeah,

0:33:17.960 --> 0:33:20.720
<v Speaker 1>it's a guardian angel. Four Witches. So their original guardian

0:33:20.760 --> 0:33:26.040
<v Speaker 1>angel was Leo, which ended up becoming Piper's husband. Oh

0:33:26.200 --> 0:33:28.440
<v Speaker 1>that's did they have a wedding episode? They had a wedding.

0:33:28.720 --> 0:33:34.840
<v Speaker 1>Hell yeah, I've always done for those. Um, they had

0:33:34.880 --> 0:33:37.160
<v Speaker 1>a wedding episode. It was amazing. But of course, like

0:33:37.440 --> 0:33:41.200
<v Speaker 1>it's a supernatural show, it always gets bombarded and interrupted

0:33:41.200 --> 0:33:45.440
<v Speaker 1>by some kind of demon monster or yea, even a funeral,

0:33:45.480 --> 0:33:48.960
<v Speaker 1>their sister funeral got disrupted. So Leo is introduced into

0:33:49.000 --> 0:33:51.720
<v Speaker 1>season one as a sister's handyman hired to fix up

0:33:51.760 --> 0:33:55.080
<v Speaker 1>their house, but they later discovered that he just casually

0:33:55.080 --> 0:33:57.520
<v Speaker 1>happens to be a White Lighter, and then his duties

0:33:57.560 --> 0:34:00.000
<v Speaker 1>often caused problems for his marriage to Piper. So how

0:34:00.040 --> 0:34:02.720
<v Speaker 1>long did they date before they got married? Was it

0:34:02.800 --> 0:34:05.920
<v Speaker 1>like a couple of seasons? Technically they weren't allowed to

0:34:06.040 --> 0:34:09.000
<v Speaker 1>date at all, that's like forbidden. So then after like

0:34:09.120 --> 0:34:12.520
<v Speaker 1>season I believe it was like season two or three,

0:34:12.560 --> 0:34:15.520
<v Speaker 1>they sort of started like testing the waters. But that

0:34:15.640 --> 0:34:18.680
<v Speaker 1>was just like all the Elders, the higher up, which

0:34:18.760 --> 0:34:21.960
<v Speaker 1>is who basically employ the White Lighters, they're just like

0:34:22.440 --> 0:34:28.440
<v Speaker 1>powerful stages. They they tried to intervene, but eventually she

0:34:28.560 --> 0:34:33.440
<v Speaker 1>got um, she got pregnant, and yes that was They

0:34:33.440 --> 0:34:39.040
<v Speaker 1>were just like, well, there's no going back. So he's

0:34:39.080 --> 0:34:40.920
<v Speaker 1>an angel. I'm trying to understand. He's an angel, right,

0:34:41.120 --> 0:34:44.640
<v Speaker 1>like a guardian angel basically. Yes, okay, I mean that

0:34:44.680 --> 0:34:50.680
<v Speaker 1>doesn't sound very heavenly. But he was like, look, he's

0:34:50.680 --> 0:34:56.160
<v Speaker 1>a Lucifer traded in his wings. Well he's not the

0:34:56.200 --> 0:34:59.799
<v Speaker 1>first one. That's how their secret sister came about. Okay, yeah,

0:35:00.040 --> 0:35:05.480
<v Speaker 1>this is a history with them. They're going for the

0:35:05.520 --> 0:35:10.239
<v Speaker 1>good guys. Yeah, well we'll talk. It seems like, you know,

0:35:10.360 --> 0:35:14.200
<v Speaker 1>the story on the old Charm is wrapping up and

0:35:14.360 --> 0:35:17.800
<v Speaker 1>after this break, we'll start talking about the new Charm.

0:35:17.840 --> 0:35:28.399
<v Speaker 1>After these messages and we're back. So omar. I mean,

0:35:28.560 --> 0:35:30.920
<v Speaker 1>it had eight seasons. There's so many things we could

0:35:30.920 --> 0:35:33.319
<v Speaker 1>talk about with the original Charm, but essentially wrapping up.

0:35:33.600 --> 0:35:37.279
<v Speaker 1>What should people know about it? You should know you're

0:35:37.280 --> 0:35:39.560
<v Speaker 1>in for a hell of a ride, Like you're gonna

0:35:39.600 --> 0:35:42.400
<v Speaker 1>have heartbreaks, You're gonna have moments where you're just on

0:35:42.440 --> 0:35:44.400
<v Speaker 1>the edge of your seat wondering what's going to happen.

0:35:44.800 --> 0:35:50.080
<v Speaker 1>I mean, if you have you gone back and watched it, Okay,

0:35:50.640 --> 0:35:53.000
<v Speaker 1>it holds up because it holds a place like deer

0:35:53.040 --> 0:35:55.640
<v Speaker 1>in my heart because it's just it holds up for me, like,

0:35:55.840 --> 0:35:58.520
<v Speaker 1>of course there's some problematic things with it being an

0:35:58.520 --> 0:36:05.120
<v Speaker 1>old ninety show, and like it it it just watch it,

0:36:05.239 --> 0:36:07.880
<v Speaker 1>you'll you'll enjoy it. It does its best. It's not

0:36:08.000 --> 0:36:10.640
<v Speaker 1>as bad as a lot of like nineties shows that

0:36:10.719 --> 0:36:13.880
<v Speaker 1>don't hold up at all. I just feel like, if

0:36:13.920 --> 0:36:19.720
<v Speaker 1>you're into that supernatural sort of sci fi television series,

0:36:20.320 --> 0:36:22.799
<v Speaker 1>it'll be good for you. So every episode, did they

0:36:22.800 --> 0:36:24.960
<v Speaker 1>have a Monster of the week essentially that they were

0:36:25.600 --> 0:36:28.279
<v Speaker 1>so the book would so basically would start off with

0:36:28.320 --> 0:36:31.439
<v Speaker 1>a murder that happened in the city and then they

0:36:31.440 --> 0:36:35.560
<v Speaker 1>get like they get notified that it's a supernatural thing,

0:36:35.680 --> 0:36:38.160
<v Speaker 1>like oh, hey, this body was found drained of all

0:36:38.200 --> 0:36:42.040
<v Speaker 1>its blood or no organs or inside out whatever the

0:36:42.080 --> 0:36:46.200
<v Speaker 1>craziness of San Francisco. San Francisco was going to bring

0:36:46.239 --> 0:36:50.600
<v Speaker 1>to them that week, and um, they would basically investigate

0:36:50.760 --> 0:36:53.680
<v Speaker 1>and that's like the first ten fifteen minutes of the episode,

0:36:53.719 --> 0:36:56.160
<v Speaker 1>and then go back to their Book of Shadows, which

0:36:56.280 --> 0:37:01.040
<v Speaker 1>was a book of spells and like information about monsters, demons.

0:37:01.080 --> 0:37:04.560
<v Speaker 1>It's like an arcana of the supernatural and the book

0:37:04.640 --> 0:37:07.719
<v Speaker 1>was basically sentient in itself where they could just be like, well,

0:37:07.760 --> 0:37:10.560
<v Speaker 1>we're looking for X, Y and Z, and the pages

0:37:10.600 --> 0:37:14.239
<v Speaker 1>will start flipping around and it'll alert them as to

0:37:14.400 --> 0:37:16.319
<v Speaker 1>what it is that's causing this trouble and how to

0:37:16.360 --> 0:37:18.640
<v Speaker 1>defeat it. Isn't it crazy that this this was so

0:37:18.680 --> 0:37:21.120
<v Speaker 1>popular in the nineties because we had the Craft, which

0:37:21.160 --> 0:37:24.360
<v Speaker 1>came out in ye six. We had Practical Magic, We

0:37:24.400 --> 0:37:28.319
<v Speaker 1>had Sabrina the Teenage, which which let's like, all of

0:37:28.360 --> 0:37:30.759
<v Speaker 1>these are coming back. We also had like when you said,

0:37:31.040 --> 0:37:32.680
<v Speaker 1>you know there it would start with a murder where

0:37:32.719 --> 0:37:35.320
<v Speaker 1>all their blood would be drawn. Immediately thought of X files,

0:37:36.080 --> 0:37:38.160
<v Speaker 1>you know, so uh, and then of course Buffy the

0:37:38.239 --> 0:37:40.319
<v Speaker 1>Vampire Slayer. So I would like to think that these

0:37:40.360 --> 0:37:43.360
<v Speaker 1>all exist in the same world, in the same universe,

0:37:43.680 --> 0:37:46.879
<v Speaker 1>that they're all just like actively trying to like how

0:37:46.920 --> 0:37:50.000
<v Speaker 1>did all this blood get sucked up? And like Scully

0:37:50.080 --> 0:37:52.600
<v Speaker 1>and Molder show up. But then also these sisters are

0:37:52.719 --> 0:37:54.200
<v Speaker 1>on the side and they all think they're the ones

0:37:54.239 --> 0:37:58.080
<v Speaker 1>that caught him. That would be the ultimate crossover episode. Everybody,

0:37:58.280 --> 0:38:01.960
<v Speaker 1>someone needs to do that. So now we're hopping into

0:38:02.080 --> 0:38:08.920
<v Speaker 1>the New Charm the reboot, which premiered October, right before Halloween.

0:38:09.320 --> 0:38:13.480
<v Speaker 1>We are introduced to three new sisters who, after the

0:38:13.520 --> 0:38:16.959
<v Speaker 1>death of their mother, discovered they are the Charmed Ones. Yeah,

0:38:17.000 --> 0:38:19.520
<v Speaker 1>so the new series, how do you feel about it? Omar?

0:38:19.920 --> 0:38:22.760
<v Speaker 1>I felt great, Like, like I said, I love Charmed,

0:38:22.800 --> 0:38:24.759
<v Speaker 1>It's my go to show, so here and it's going

0:38:24.800 --> 0:38:27.240
<v Speaker 1>to be rebooted. Like I was on top of the world.

0:38:27.400 --> 0:38:32.200
<v Speaker 1>And then I sat down and Ben's watched it, and

0:38:32.280 --> 0:38:35.440
<v Speaker 1>I was not the biggest I was not a happy camper.

0:38:35.480 --> 0:38:39.239
<v Speaker 1>Let's just say that it was. It was kind of

0:38:39.280 --> 0:38:41.440
<v Speaker 1>a heartbreak for me. How did it feel different than

0:38:41.480 --> 0:38:45.560
<v Speaker 1>the original? It felt very instead of it being about

0:38:45.920 --> 0:38:51.960
<v Speaker 1>sisterhood and um and just like Witchcraft overall, and it

0:38:52.360 --> 0:38:55.000
<v Speaker 1>just felt very we have a lot of boxes that

0:38:55.040 --> 0:38:58.120
<v Speaker 1>we need to check because of today. It felt like

0:38:58.160 --> 0:39:02.160
<v Speaker 1>they were pandering just to be honest, was very Um,

0:39:02.239 --> 0:39:04.520
<v Speaker 1>we need a Latino, we need a black check, we

0:39:04.600 --> 0:39:08.800
<v Speaker 1>need we need representation from all, we need an LGBT character,

0:39:09.000 --> 0:39:12.440
<v Speaker 1>We need to check all of these boxes. And I

0:39:12.440 --> 0:39:15.640
<v Speaker 1>feel like they got so lost and checking these boxes

0:39:16.000 --> 0:39:21.000
<v Speaker 1>that they weren't able to basically make two reclaim what

0:39:21.080 --> 0:39:24.879
<v Speaker 1>the TV show used to be. So do you feel like,

0:39:25.840 --> 0:39:28.240
<v Speaker 1>that's so fascinating because I feel like so many shows

0:39:28.239 --> 0:39:30.440
<v Speaker 1>are able to do that. You know, it's it shouldn't.

0:39:30.480 --> 0:39:33.120
<v Speaker 1>I mean, in my opinion, it doesn't feel forced, because

0:39:33.160 --> 0:39:35.839
<v Speaker 1>that's just how the world is. You know, you do

0:39:35.960 --> 0:39:39.719
<v Speaker 1>have Afro Latinas and in Queer Latinas and and things.

0:39:39.800 --> 0:39:41.440
<v Speaker 1>And I'm not I know that's not what you're saying,

0:39:41.640 --> 0:39:43.960
<v Speaker 1>but you're saying essentially that you felt that took center

0:39:44.080 --> 0:39:49.880
<v Speaker 1>stage over okay, over like fighting demons. Yes, okay, And

0:39:50.920 --> 0:39:55.880
<v Speaker 1>I appreciate that. I appreciate the representation um of just

0:39:56.040 --> 0:39:59.480
<v Speaker 1>everybody and trying to be inclusive um to to all

0:39:59.480 --> 0:40:02.920
<v Speaker 1>other cold chersan and religions, the races, and trying to

0:40:02.960 --> 0:40:06.680
<v Speaker 1>include everybody. And I feel like they even got lost

0:40:06.760 --> 0:40:10.200
<v Speaker 1>in their own dialogue into their daily life where one

0:40:10.280 --> 0:40:14.360
<v Speaker 1>of the for example, one of the characters, uh Maggie,

0:40:14.520 --> 0:40:18.239
<v Speaker 1>she discovered that her um she'd been saying in her

0:40:18.360 --> 0:40:22.560
<v Speaker 1>entire life identifying against Puerto Rican. Then it turned out

0:40:22.560 --> 0:40:27.040
<v Speaker 1>that her what her father was black, and it was

0:40:27.080 --> 0:40:30.960
<v Speaker 1>just this really interesting debate on she was up for

0:40:31.000 --> 0:40:33.200
<v Speaker 1>a school scholarship, and she found out that because now

0:40:33.239 --> 0:40:37.480
<v Speaker 1>she's black, that she's open to all of these different

0:40:37.520 --> 0:40:40.839
<v Speaker 1>opportunities now, but she doesn't resemble black at all. She's

0:40:40.840 --> 0:40:46.000
<v Speaker 1>not black passing. And it was this very like unique

0:40:46.000 --> 0:40:47.640
<v Speaker 1>episode where you had to sit down and had a

0:40:47.920 --> 0:40:49.880
<v Speaker 1>like a come to Jesus moment with your sister and

0:40:49.960 --> 0:40:53.120
<v Speaker 1>just like, look, you're you're black passing. You go out

0:40:53.160 --> 0:40:54.879
<v Speaker 1>to the world, they see a black woman. They don't

0:40:54.920 --> 0:40:57.600
<v Speaker 1>see a Latin woman, or or they just see you

0:40:57.640 --> 0:40:59.879
<v Speaker 1>as black. So I feel like I'm taking this opper

0:41:00.000 --> 0:41:03.680
<v Speaker 1>trinity from somebody else who deserves it with the scholarship.

0:41:03.880 --> 0:41:06.560
<v Speaker 1>How do you like? I'm it was a very interesting,

0:41:06.680 --> 0:41:11.759
<v Speaker 1>like personality conflict that they did address, and on some

0:41:11.840 --> 0:41:16.319
<v Speaker 1>episodes they're able to do it accurately and and interestingly,

0:41:16.800 --> 0:41:20.200
<v Speaker 1>but most of the time it just feels very forced

0:41:20.239 --> 0:41:24.160
<v Speaker 1>and just very just not you can't connect with the characters.

0:41:24.520 --> 0:41:27.800
<v Speaker 1>So Carter Covington U served as a show owner for

0:41:27.840 --> 0:41:29.719
<v Speaker 1>the first season, and I do know that it was

0:41:29.760 --> 0:41:32.719
<v Speaker 1>picked up for a second season, which will come out

0:41:32.800 --> 0:41:36.680
<v Speaker 1>this October. UM. I imagine that they feel that was

0:41:36.719 --> 0:41:38.839
<v Speaker 1>something that they needed to address. I don't know if

0:41:38.880 --> 0:41:41.799
<v Speaker 1>you if you want to wigh in on this, I mean,

0:41:41.840 --> 0:41:44.200
<v Speaker 1>it is different than the original Charmed because those were

0:41:44.400 --> 0:41:47.800
<v Speaker 1>white women, and I feel like if they didn't address

0:41:47.840 --> 0:41:52.400
<v Speaker 1>it in Slash twenty nineteen, I don't know, I totally.

0:41:52.640 --> 0:41:55.440
<v Speaker 1>It's such a weird balance. You know. It's like you

0:41:55.480 --> 0:41:57.719
<v Speaker 1>want to just talk about supernatural things, but then you

0:41:57.719 --> 0:41:59.359
<v Speaker 1>don't always have the luxury of doing it, and when

0:41:59.360 --> 0:42:01.160
<v Speaker 1>you have a platfor form, you kind of want to

0:42:01.239 --> 0:42:04.640
<v Speaker 1>use that platform to show how their lives, even if

0:42:04.680 --> 0:42:07.279
<v Speaker 1>they are witches, are going to be different than the

0:42:07.320 --> 0:42:11.640
<v Speaker 1>other sisters. They're just going to in America, in the

0:42:11.640 --> 0:42:13.400
<v Speaker 1>world in general, but they're just not going to have

0:42:13.480 --> 0:42:17.560
<v Speaker 1>the same lives. Uh So I understand why, But if

0:42:17.600 --> 0:42:21.239
<v Speaker 1>you what are your thoughts? Yeah, I feel like a

0:42:21.280 --> 0:42:24.359
<v Speaker 1>lot of you know, newer shows, and I don't think

0:42:24.400 --> 0:42:27.799
<v Speaker 1>it's anyone's fault. Besides, you know, like a lot of

0:42:27.800 --> 0:42:30.840
<v Speaker 1>times I feel like it could be you know, networks

0:42:30.840 --> 0:42:35.320
<v Speaker 1>and studios that want you to to tackle like these

0:42:35.360 --> 0:42:37.279
<v Speaker 1>things of like this is what the kids are talking about,

0:42:37.280 --> 0:42:40.479
<v Speaker 1>because on Twitter we're always having these debates and it's like, yeah,

0:42:40.520 --> 0:42:42.560
<v Speaker 1>but you know, this is a show about which is

0:42:42.680 --> 0:42:45.440
<v Speaker 1>you're kind of reviving an I P that has a

0:42:45.600 --> 0:42:49.319
<v Speaker 1>history and you know, you ruin the chance of just

0:42:49.360 --> 0:42:52.799
<v Speaker 1>having this diverse show that it just happens to be

0:42:52.880 --> 0:42:56.920
<v Speaker 1>diverse when you kind of get kind of drowning in

0:42:57.080 --> 0:43:00.719
<v Speaker 1>like the discussion of identity. I think you had like

0:43:00.800 --> 0:43:03.440
<v Speaker 1>a one off episode like that where you kind of

0:43:03.480 --> 0:43:07.280
<v Speaker 1>talk about like, you know, essentially the debate of Afro

0:43:07.440 --> 0:43:10.799
<v Speaker 1>Latin x folk. But it's still a witch show and

0:43:10.840 --> 0:43:13.839
<v Speaker 1>that should always come first. Uh, you know it is.

0:43:13.960 --> 0:43:17.840
<v Speaker 1>It does have a second season, and it can course correct.

0:43:18.280 --> 0:43:20.960
<v Speaker 1>So you know, I'm not gonna count it out just yet.

0:43:21.320 --> 0:43:24.880
<v Speaker 1>I think, uh, you know there there they've heard us

0:43:24.960 --> 0:43:26.560
<v Speaker 1>loud and clear, or maybe they have. I don't know.

0:43:26.600 --> 0:43:28.680
<v Speaker 1>I'm not I'm not the fan base, so I haven't.

0:43:28.800 --> 0:43:31.120
<v Speaker 1>I haven't said anything to them. I think they have

0:43:31.200 --> 0:43:35.359
<v Speaker 1>a new showrunner for the new season. Interesting, okay. Uh,

0:43:35.360 --> 0:43:37.719
<v Speaker 1>And you know, sometimes it takes finding your ground, you know,

0:43:37.760 --> 0:43:40.719
<v Speaker 1>whenever this was originally set to so like we see

0:43:40.760 --> 0:43:44.520
<v Speaker 1>the stuff in uh, you know that this was announced

0:43:44.520 --> 0:43:47.600
<v Speaker 1>a couple of years before that, the reboot, and you

0:43:47.600 --> 0:43:49.800
<v Speaker 1>know it might so that's like right after the election

0:43:49.840 --> 0:43:52.040
<v Speaker 1>if you think about it. H So it might be

0:43:52.080 --> 0:43:54.200
<v Speaker 1>things that they felt that they had to tackle. So

0:43:54.280 --> 0:43:57.239
<v Speaker 1>you're writing these you're writing these episodes and then by

0:43:57.239 --> 0:43:58.640
<v Speaker 1>the time you go to shoot it, and then by

0:43:58.640 --> 0:44:00.720
<v Speaker 1>the time you edit it, then by the time it airs,

0:44:00.760 --> 0:44:03.239
<v Speaker 1>it's like we've already had these conversations and it's just

0:44:03.280 --> 0:44:06.320
<v Speaker 1>still to us. Yeah, but it might have been super

0:44:06.440 --> 0:44:09.239
<v Speaker 1>relevant or like they felt it was necessary for them

0:44:09.280 --> 0:44:11.759
<v Speaker 1>to put into their art. But I totally feel both

0:44:11.760 --> 0:44:14.319
<v Speaker 1>of you all that sometimes it's like, we deal with

0:44:14.360 --> 0:44:15.719
<v Speaker 1>so much of this pain. Why do we have to

0:44:15.760 --> 0:44:17.719
<v Speaker 1>be reminded of it constantly? Why can't we just fly

0:44:17.760 --> 0:44:20.600
<v Speaker 1>around as witches fight demons, Like we're not the ones

0:44:20.640 --> 0:44:22.600
<v Speaker 1>that need to be reminded of our own pain like

0:44:22.719 --> 0:44:24.799
<v Speaker 1>other people. And I mean, don't get me wrong, they

0:44:24.840 --> 0:44:28.440
<v Speaker 1>did a great job at some points, like the inclusivity

0:44:28.680 --> 0:44:31.640
<v Speaker 1>of like you said about the Bruhas and that like

0:44:31.800 --> 0:44:35.440
<v Speaker 1>now they have Latin spells that they because their mother

0:44:35.680 --> 0:44:38.880
<v Speaker 1>was was Puerto Rican, so they have like the Latin

0:44:38.920 --> 0:44:40.759
<v Speaker 1>spells in the spell book that they'll go through and

0:44:40.800 --> 0:44:43.719
<v Speaker 1>they have different little blessings and prayers and spells that

0:44:43.920 --> 0:44:46.960
<v Speaker 1>are authentic through to the to the Latin x culture.

0:44:47.239 --> 0:44:49.480
<v Speaker 1>Which is interesting because if it was just like you

0:44:49.520 --> 0:44:52.120
<v Speaker 1>said back then in the nineties with Shannon Doherty and

0:44:52.200 --> 0:44:56.000
<v Speaker 1>three white women as witches. They only read the spells

0:44:56.600 --> 0:44:59.640
<v Speaker 1>basically in English. They were like rhymes and chants instead

0:44:59.680 --> 0:45:05.280
<v Speaker 1>of actually Latin things. Um, Latin spells that came straight

0:45:05.280 --> 0:45:08.319
<v Speaker 1>from from history. I think this is hilarious at there

0:45:08.360 --> 0:45:11.480
<v Speaker 1>because like if a Brujas in that writer's room giving

0:45:11.520 --> 0:45:13.000
<v Speaker 1>them this that she'd be like, man, I can't believe

0:45:13.000 --> 0:45:16.120
<v Speaker 1>they're saying this out loud. You guys saying it three

0:45:16.200 --> 0:45:18.680
<v Speaker 1>or four times on set. Something's going to happen. Okay,

0:45:18.680 --> 0:45:21.080
<v Speaker 1>So so talk to us through the new characters. We

0:45:21.120 --> 0:45:26.719
<v Speaker 1>have Mel, Yes, Mel, who is the LGBT representation of

0:45:26.800 --> 0:45:30.759
<v Speaker 1>the show. She um recently. As you said before, they

0:45:30.760 --> 0:45:33.640
<v Speaker 1>both recently lost their mother and they were both Mel

0:45:33.719 --> 0:45:37.200
<v Speaker 1>and Maggie were sisters, the original sisters living in the

0:45:37.280 --> 0:45:42.000
<v Speaker 1>home they were. Mel was a PhD student and she

0:45:42.160 --> 0:45:47.880
<v Speaker 1>was dating a cop named Nico Um who was Um.

0:45:48.080 --> 0:45:50.520
<v Speaker 1>She was also one of the characters who checked the box.

0:45:50.520 --> 0:45:56.040
<v Speaker 1>She's a Asian American actress and Um. It was interesting

0:45:56.360 --> 0:46:01.480
<v Speaker 1>when they first introduced the character because she she felt

0:46:01.480 --> 0:46:03.759
<v Speaker 1>the need to say it a loud kind of like

0:46:04.040 --> 0:46:06.400
<v Speaker 1>the meme where no one's asking and then it's just

0:46:06.440 --> 0:46:09.680
<v Speaker 1>like dot dot I'm Asian and it was just it

0:46:09.800 --> 0:46:14.120
<v Speaker 1>was interesting how they how they presented her character. Um.

0:46:14.160 --> 0:46:17.239
<v Speaker 1>So then you have Maggie who just started college as well,

0:46:18.080 --> 0:46:20.560
<v Speaker 1>or excuse me, who just started college and she's all

0:46:20.600 --> 0:46:23.160
<v Speaker 1>about like the greek life and she's all about rushing

0:46:23.280 --> 0:46:28.680
<v Speaker 1>and uh sorority and um, just an overall party girl.

0:46:28.960 --> 0:46:32.359
<v Speaker 1>And then you have Macy, who's the secret sister. Um,

0:46:32.480 --> 0:46:36.600
<v Speaker 1>she's the black one, and she's a she's a scientist. Yeah.

0:46:36.600 --> 0:46:40.480
<v Speaker 1>So Maggie has the power of telepathy and the ability

0:46:40.520 --> 0:46:43.399
<v Speaker 1>to read the thoughts of other people. This was one

0:46:43.400 --> 0:46:45.200
<v Speaker 1>of the first differences from the original show. Is the

0:46:45.239 --> 0:46:47.640
<v Speaker 1>original youngest sister who said Phoebe, which was a list

0:46:47.680 --> 0:46:51.440
<v Speaker 1>of Milano's character. She had the power of premonition a

0:46:51.440 --> 0:46:53.799
<v Speaker 1>little bit different. So that was their mom's power. Their

0:46:53.840 --> 0:46:58.000
<v Speaker 1>mom had the power of premonition. Um. And then Mel

0:47:00.040 --> 0:47:02.799
<v Speaker 1>she she has power at the time time yes, time

0:47:02.840 --> 0:47:05.760
<v Speaker 1>freezing yes. And then which is similar to the original

0:47:05.760 --> 0:47:08.480
<v Speaker 1>middle sister, which was Piper, which is Holly Marie Combs

0:47:08.520 --> 0:47:11.600
<v Speaker 1>from the original series. Um. And then, like we said,

0:47:11.640 --> 0:47:14.880
<v Speaker 1>it's later revealed that Mel is in fact the half sister, yes,

0:47:16.080 --> 0:47:18.879
<v Speaker 1>not Mac. And then we have Macy, who we haven't

0:47:18.880 --> 0:47:22.440
<v Speaker 1>gotten into yet Macy's powers. She's the telepath, so she's

0:47:22.480 --> 0:47:26.080
<v Speaker 1>able to move things with her mind. Also spoiler if

0:47:26.120 --> 0:47:29.840
<v Speaker 1>you haven't seen the series, Macy is a half demon,

0:47:29.960 --> 0:47:34.200
<v Speaker 1>half witch, so that's her main struggle while she's going

0:47:34.320 --> 0:47:39.439
<v Speaker 1>through um the basically the series and discovering not only

0:47:39.680 --> 0:47:42.399
<v Speaker 1>that she has sisters that she didn't know about and

0:47:42.880 --> 0:47:46.520
<v Speaker 1>this whole other life of being a witch, but she's

0:47:46.560 --> 0:47:50.040
<v Speaker 1>also a demon, which basically no one around her can

0:47:50.080 --> 0:47:52.520
<v Speaker 1>relate to because they're the charmed ones they're supposed to

0:47:52.520 --> 0:47:56.280
<v Speaker 1>be killing demons. Yeah, and she's the like science nerd,

0:47:57.239 --> 0:48:00.160
<v Speaker 1>she has a PhD. I love that they threw in

0:48:00.200 --> 0:48:04.320
<v Speaker 1>their sciences magic. Yeah. Yeah, and it's interesting she actually

0:48:04.640 --> 0:48:08.520
<v Speaker 1>she's the only one who merges her magic with science. So,

0:48:08.600 --> 0:48:10.719
<v Speaker 1>like she was fighting somebody and she's like, I said,

0:48:10.719 --> 0:48:12.719
<v Speaker 1>she's a telepath, so she was just like, well if

0:48:12.760 --> 0:48:16.799
<v Speaker 1>I psychic psychically grabbed his karatid artery and hold it

0:48:16.880 --> 0:48:22.000
<v Speaker 1>really tight, and she she has science magic. Uh. And

0:48:22.120 --> 0:48:25.040
<v Speaker 1>we have Rupert Evans as Harry Greenwood, who is the

0:48:25.080 --> 0:48:28.960
<v Speaker 1>sister's white lighter. Is it ever? I might have missed this?

0:48:29.000 --> 0:48:32.000
<v Speaker 1>Is it ever? A woman that's a white yes, um,

0:48:32.080 --> 0:48:34.400
<v Speaker 1>white lighters can be women. I know. It just seems

0:48:34.440 --> 0:48:37.200
<v Speaker 1>like the last Like in the last Charmed, in this Charm,

0:48:37.440 --> 0:48:40.560
<v Speaker 1>they have a male white lighter and the last one

0:48:40.600 --> 0:48:43.560
<v Speaker 1>page was a white lighter, the Secret Sister. So she

0:48:44.360 --> 0:48:51.560
<v Speaker 1>was half white lighter half witch because Okay conceived her. Yes, um, yes.

0:48:51.640 --> 0:48:54.359
<v Speaker 1>And then also later on in this series they get

0:48:54.440 --> 0:48:58.680
<v Speaker 1>a substitute white lighter named Tessa and she it's a

0:48:58.719 --> 0:49:05.440
<v Speaker 1>female as well. Cool. Um. So yeah, elders, elders and

0:49:05.440 --> 0:49:08.080
<v Speaker 1>white lighters they can be men or women. Are you so?

0:49:08.120 --> 0:49:10.560
<v Speaker 1>Are you gonna? Are you going to tune into season two?

0:49:11.840 --> 0:49:13.840
<v Speaker 1>I'll give it, I'll give it a second chance. I

0:49:14.160 --> 0:49:17.320
<v Speaker 1>will because I'm as I'm I'm at the very last

0:49:17.360 --> 0:49:22.160
<v Speaker 1>episode of the reboot actually, and I'm interested to see

0:49:22.200 --> 0:49:26.000
<v Speaker 1>what direction they take it for a second season. Um.

0:49:26.040 --> 0:49:28.440
<v Speaker 1>I kind of grew a little bit of attachment to

0:49:28.520 --> 0:49:30.200
<v Speaker 1>Macy and hair character, and I want to see where

0:49:30.239 --> 0:49:36.600
<v Speaker 1>they go with the whole like just Macy. Um, but

0:49:36.640 --> 0:49:38.000
<v Speaker 1>I do want to see where they want to go

0:49:38.040 --> 0:49:42.080
<v Speaker 1>with the whole demon twist and um and and seeing

0:49:42.160 --> 0:49:44.200
<v Speaker 1>it's like you said, they have a new showrunners or

0:49:44.200 --> 0:49:46.439
<v Speaker 1>maybe maybe they can win me back over and we'll

0:49:46.440 --> 0:49:49.360
<v Speaker 1>sing um, this is to be fascinating because Tanya Saracho

0:49:49.440 --> 0:49:52.720
<v Speaker 1>has a new show called Brujas coming out, so that'll

0:49:52.719 --> 0:49:55.000
<v Speaker 1>be I don't know when that's dropping, but that sounds

0:49:55.040 --> 0:49:58.960
<v Speaker 1>like it'll be competition. Um, we'll see how they tackle it.

0:49:59.040 --> 0:50:04.680
<v Speaker 1>She's the show inner for Vida. M hm. Well, final thoughts, thoughts,

0:50:05.120 --> 0:50:07.680
<v Speaker 1>what should people know about this season? That? Now? What's

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<v Speaker 1>your elevator pitch as to why people should get into Charmed?

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<v Speaker 1>If you, like I said, if you've liked anything science fiction, nerdy, magical,

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<v Speaker 1>if you like Sabrina growing up, anything anything magical, whimsical, like,

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<v Speaker 1>just just give it a shot. It's it's interesting where

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<v Speaker 1>they go with like the lore and everything from all

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<v Speaker 1>the demons and and like mystical beings that they fight

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<v Speaker 1>because they're there. They come from a place of different

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<v Speaker 1>lords and histories throughout different cultures, so you're able to

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<v Speaker 1>learn a lot of different things that you didn't really

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<v Speaker 1>know that like people believed in and of course like

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<v Speaker 1>superstisters and supernaturally. I'm not saying these are like actual things,

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<v Speaker 1>but it's just cool to see the different like beliefs

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<v Speaker 1>of like of the supernatural world that that other people

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<v Speaker 1>believe in I y'all was exactly correct about my thing.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just reading now that Jessica O'Toole, who's a writer.

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<v Speaker 1>She told BuzzFeed News that the reason the redeveloped script

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<v Speaker 1>was changed the present day was because of the results

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<v Speaker 1>of the US presidential election. So I do imagine that

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<v Speaker 1>probably did. If you're looking at when they were developing,

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<v Speaker 1>this might have really affected their writing, especially if you

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<v Speaker 1>think of everything that was happening then they were just

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<v Speaker 1>going to make all those CW people watch this and no,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, but they really did check all the boxes.

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<v Speaker 1>They have their personal that they have a Laddin, they

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<v Speaker 1>have black, they have LGBT, they have Asian. It's a

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<v Speaker 1>very inclusive show and I love it, and I wish

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<v Speaker 1>more shows could be like that. But it also feels

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<v Speaker 1>like a lot got lost into delving into that so deeply.

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<v Speaker 1>It is hard because that is a note that you like,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm working on a show and that is you know,

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<v Speaker 1>one of our producers is Asian, and she was like,

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<v Speaker 1>can we have an Asian characters? Like? Of course, and

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<v Speaker 1>then we want to have a black character, We want

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<v Speaker 1>to have a like we just want to see ourselves represented.

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<v Speaker 1>So badly that I understand what you're saying, but it's

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<v Speaker 1>like so hard when when it's finally your show and

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<v Speaker 1>you're like, I get to do this thing and I'm

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<v Speaker 1>gonna and then but you don't want it to feel like, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>like The Power Rangers or like Captain Planet, where you're

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<v Speaker 1>just like one of everybody. Um, not saying that that's bad,

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<v Speaker 1>but you wanted to feel organic, is what you're saying.

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<v Speaker 1>You don't want it. You don't ever want someone to

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<v Speaker 1>say that about your show that it just feels like

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<v Speaker 1>you're checking off boxes. You want it to feel organic.

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<v Speaker 1>And I imagine that, uh, you know, they were, they

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<v Speaker 1>were coming up against a lot when this was being developed,

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<v Speaker 1>and now that they've said what they needed to, I

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<v Speaker 1>think that maybe with the future episodes they can really

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<v Speaker 1>and with the success of a lot of the other

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<v Speaker 1>you know, um, Sabrina coming back, a lot of these

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<v Speaker 1>other ones coming back, I feel like they can they

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<v Speaker 1>can play around a little bit more and hopefully they do. Omar,

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<v Speaker 1>where can everyone catch you? You can find me on

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<v Speaker 1>Instagram at Handsome bar Man or Facebook Omar Allen A

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<v Speaker 1>double Yeah. Um, I'm at MS Danny Fernandez. It's m

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