1 00:00:00,480 --> 00:00:06,840 Speaker 1: They Around the NFL podcast always goes for it on 2 00:00:07,080 --> 00:00:08,080 Speaker 1: Fourth Down. 3 00:00:08,400 --> 00:00:12,080 Speaker 2: From the Chris Westling podcast studio. It's around the NFL 4 00:00:12,520 --> 00:00:13,880 Speaker 2: the flagship. 5 00:00:13,400 --> 00:00:16,840 Speaker 1: Program Sunday Recap. 6 00:00:17,880 --> 00:00:21,520 Speaker 2: And I am Dan Hanss and I have Greg Rosendal 7 00:00:21,640 --> 00:00:23,040 Speaker 2: and Mark Sessler here. 8 00:00:23,760 --> 00:00:26,680 Speaker 3: How are you boys feeling frisky? 9 00:00:27,160 --> 00:00:28,480 Speaker 1: Oh? 10 00:00:29,320 --> 00:00:31,880 Speaker 4: Greg and I spend a lot of time together today, 11 00:00:31,920 --> 00:00:33,120 Speaker 4: as we do on these Sundays. 12 00:00:33,200 --> 00:00:36,519 Speaker 5: Yes, I was well in the Thursday night recap. The 13 00:00:36,680 --> 00:00:40,599 Speaker 5: bond not just because of our adopted team. We'll get 14 00:00:40,600 --> 00:00:42,839 Speaker 5: to them later. Is this going stronger and strong? I 15 00:00:42,840 --> 00:00:45,320 Speaker 5: know you don't like it. You want animosity. You try 16 00:00:45,360 --> 00:00:46,200 Speaker 5: to bring us apart. 17 00:00:46,320 --> 00:00:47,960 Speaker 4: It's a burgeoning issue for you. 18 00:00:48,040 --> 00:00:48,240 Speaker 1: Dan. 19 00:00:48,440 --> 00:00:51,440 Speaker 2: Let us Let me send me a photo of the 20 00:00:51,440 --> 00:00:53,519 Speaker 2: two of you hanging out in a social setting and 21 00:00:53,520 --> 00:00:54,080 Speaker 2: then I'll start. 22 00:00:54,160 --> 00:00:56,240 Speaker 3: We are always I mean, I'm the same stuff. 23 00:00:56,280 --> 00:00:58,120 Speaker 1: Fact that it is with you, as with the fact 24 00:00:58,160 --> 00:00:59,000 Speaker 1: that you're of us. 25 00:00:58,920 --> 00:01:01,520 Speaker 2: You can get along with each other at work should 26 00:01:01,600 --> 00:01:04,520 Speaker 2: not be something that's celebrated or made for me to 27 00:01:04,560 --> 00:01:07,480 Speaker 2: feel uncomfortable. I'm happy you guys like each other in 28 00:01:07,520 --> 00:01:09,800 Speaker 2: the office. We can it's a change. Celebrate each other 29 00:01:09,840 --> 00:01:10,520 Speaker 2: in any way we win. 30 00:01:10,680 --> 00:01:13,720 Speaker 1: It's a change. I appreciate it. How is it a 31 00:01:13,800 --> 00:01:14,320 Speaker 1: change to you? 32 00:01:14,440 --> 00:01:16,560 Speaker 2: The change you want to see in the world. You 33 00:01:16,600 --> 00:01:19,160 Speaker 2: know who said that, Mike Tyson, Well, Greg has said it. 34 00:01:19,240 --> 00:01:22,640 Speaker 3: Multi. Yes, we're just pushing back on a little narrative. 35 00:01:22,959 --> 00:01:25,560 Speaker 2: But you're the you made the narrative. I'm happy you 36 00:01:25,600 --> 00:01:27,040 Speaker 2: guys are falling in love and agree with you. 37 00:01:28,080 --> 00:01:29,880 Speaker 4: Sound absolutely thrilled with the development. 38 00:01:30,240 --> 00:01:32,919 Speaker 2: There's nothing better than a positive a podcast where everyone 39 00:01:32,959 --> 00:01:35,600 Speaker 2: agrees with everyone at all times. And if I have 40 00:01:35,720 --> 00:01:38,639 Speaker 2: to be the guy that slides into this little bond, 41 00:01:39,120 --> 00:01:40,720 Speaker 2: I will Wow. 42 00:01:40,800 --> 00:01:41,480 Speaker 3: What a setup. 43 00:01:41,600 --> 00:01:44,640 Speaker 2: As Razor ramone one said, I'm the bad guy. If 44 00:01:44,640 --> 00:01:48,360 Speaker 2: I must be, I will be for our listeners. And 45 00:01:48,520 --> 00:01:53,600 Speaker 2: you know the referee in Detroit, let's hear him browning. 46 00:01:53,720 --> 00:01:56,880 Speaker 6: Offense number seven. 47 00:01:55,920 --> 00:01:58,320 Speaker 5: I'm talking to. 48 00:01:58,280 --> 00:02:03,240 Speaker 2: America here, and that's cool. He's talking to America on 49 00:02:03,280 --> 00:02:07,360 Speaker 2: this podcast. We talked to the world. So yes, at 50 00:02:07,440 --> 00:02:10,840 Speaker 2: least zero. I think it's I think it's great. I 51 00:02:10,840 --> 00:02:12,720 Speaker 2: think it's great that you guys have this bond in 52 00:02:12,800 --> 00:02:16,000 Speaker 2: year eleven. That's hitting a level that we hadn't seen before. 53 00:02:17,000 --> 00:02:19,880 Speaker 4: It's an international bond. 54 00:02:20,040 --> 00:02:22,799 Speaker 1: Speaking of international, we'll have an announcement coming up soon. 55 00:02:24,280 --> 00:02:27,880 Speaker 1: Leave it there, Leave it there. 56 00:02:28,720 --> 00:02:31,520 Speaker 5: I feel like our listeners could guess the general gist, 57 00:02:31,560 --> 00:02:32,680 Speaker 5: but there are specifics. 58 00:02:32,800 --> 00:02:34,160 Speaker 1: Just leave it sometimes, just leave it right. 59 00:02:34,800 --> 00:02:35,200 Speaker 3: Leave it. 60 00:02:36,720 --> 00:02:38,519 Speaker 1: You did the same thing on the Thursday show when 61 00:02:38,560 --> 00:02:40,399 Speaker 1: Mark and I were like laughing about that thing. 62 00:02:41,280 --> 00:02:42,760 Speaker 3: I don't even remember what you're talking about. 63 00:02:42,800 --> 00:02:43,280 Speaker 1: You know the thing? 64 00:02:43,560 --> 00:02:48,440 Speaker 4: Remember people have they've inquired where the giggles came from, 65 00:02:48,440 --> 00:02:50,480 Speaker 4: and it's likest just let you let the. 66 00:02:51,600 --> 00:02:55,280 Speaker 2: Let the thing in the air, all right, Week two Sunday, 67 00:02:55,919 --> 00:02:58,000 Speaker 2: lots of football. I think we just got to get 68 00:02:58,000 --> 00:02:59,800 Speaker 2: to it. Greg, you ready to get to it? Please, 69 00:03:00,160 --> 00:03:05,040 Speaker 2: let's do it. Starting where we must start the game 70 00:03:05,919 --> 00:03:08,079 Speaker 2: is actually in the same building where that referee had 71 00:03:08,080 --> 00:03:09,600 Speaker 2: that little America quip. 72 00:03:10,240 --> 00:03:12,680 Speaker 1: I wish I knew his name. I actually typed the officials. 73 00:03:13,200 --> 00:03:16,400 Speaker 2: I said, I can get that for you. I tried 74 00:03:16,400 --> 00:03:19,760 Speaker 2: to good luck because it just said on Twitter. I 75 00:03:19,800 --> 00:03:23,280 Speaker 2: typed it in X excuse me the quote waiting for 76 00:03:23,400 --> 00:03:26,000 Speaker 2: one tweet saying who the what the man's name was? 77 00:03:26,280 --> 00:03:27,440 Speaker 4: Did you try Google? 78 00:03:27,760 --> 00:03:29,040 Speaker 3: Did he try to pick that game book? 79 00:03:29,680 --> 00:03:30,320 Speaker 1: That's waiting? 80 00:03:30,680 --> 00:03:31,880 Speaker 4: The effort became too much. 81 00:03:32,160 --> 00:03:33,480 Speaker 1: It was it was a search. 82 00:03:33,440 --> 00:03:37,040 Speaker 4: After the was it reliable? Landscape of X didn't provide 83 00:03:37,320 --> 00:03:37,880 Speaker 4: what you needed. 84 00:03:37,920 --> 00:03:41,000 Speaker 3: Come on, I'm seeing I'm seeing Alex Kemp lead official. 85 00:03:41,880 --> 00:03:42,880 Speaker 3: I like Alex Kemp. 86 00:03:43,240 --> 00:03:46,640 Speaker 1: Camper has got a good personality. Back to ford Field. 87 00:03:46,600 --> 00:03:50,280 Speaker 7: Hutchinson's back in the game for the Lions. Gino from 88 00:03:50,280 --> 00:03:53,800 Speaker 7: the shotgun with Walker beside him. Three wide receivers in 89 00:03:53,840 --> 00:03:57,080 Speaker 7: the game. Gino is Yorking, Yorking. Now he throws fourth time, 90 00:03:57,280 --> 00:03:59,760 Speaker 7: it's wucking. Does he reach the ball across. 91 00:04:00,960 --> 00:04:02,000 Speaker 1: Over by. 92 00:04:03,480 --> 00:04:04,160 Speaker 3: Seyhawks? 93 00:04:04,720 --> 00:04:07,800 Speaker 7: Tyler Lockett bt a little pants out into the right 94 00:04:07,880 --> 00:04:09,920 Speaker 7: side plan reaches. 95 00:04:09,520 --> 00:04:11,040 Speaker 3: The ball across the pilon. 96 00:04:11,560 --> 00:04:12,440 Speaker 1: He scores. 97 00:04:13,160 --> 00:04:14,920 Speaker 3: They're gonna check to be sure. 98 00:04:15,760 --> 00:04:18,160 Speaker 4: But all you gotta do is get the ball across. 99 00:04:17,760 --> 00:04:18,880 Speaker 8: The top of the pylon. 100 00:04:19,240 --> 00:04:20,640 Speaker 1: Hell yeah, and he touches it. 101 00:04:20,880 --> 00:04:22,320 Speaker 3: He did it. He's good for a face. 102 00:04:22,400 --> 00:04:28,880 Speaker 1: He did. We got here room, Gary, my heroes. It 103 00:04:28,960 --> 00:04:31,720 Speaker 1: was worth hanging in. Well, we don't need that. That's 104 00:04:31,720 --> 00:04:35,000 Speaker 1: what I do. All right. 105 00:04:35,120 --> 00:04:37,159 Speaker 2: Here we go Steve Rabel and Dave Lyman with the 106 00:04:37,240 --> 00:04:40,719 Speaker 2: call k I r Oh. The Seahawks almost let it 107 00:04:40,760 --> 00:04:43,480 Speaker 2: slip away at ford Field, blowing a ten point fourth 108 00:04:43,520 --> 00:04:46,880 Speaker 2: quarter lead, but they won the overtime coin toss, then 109 00:04:47,120 --> 00:04:50,240 Speaker 2: won the game when Gino connected with Tyler Lockett, all 110 00:04:50,279 --> 00:04:54,400 Speaker 2: reliable who connected with the pylon. Final score Seahawks thirty seven, 111 00:04:54,720 --> 00:04:58,279 Speaker 2: Lions thirty one, Greggy, great back and forth affair and 112 00:04:58,320 --> 00:05:00,960 Speaker 2: a huge lift for Seattle after we one's disappointment. 113 00:05:01,000 --> 00:05:04,880 Speaker 5: An awesome game between these two teams for the second 114 00:05:04,880 --> 00:05:07,360 Speaker 5: straight year. Was forty eight to forty five last year, 115 00:05:07,720 --> 00:05:10,240 Speaker 5: this one just as exciting. And as much as I 116 00:05:10,240 --> 00:05:12,400 Speaker 5: want to honk about Gino and we can a little later, 117 00:05:12,680 --> 00:05:15,800 Speaker 5: I just think Tyler Lockett's one of those guys that 118 00:05:16,120 --> 00:05:19,799 Speaker 5: is gonna be a legend in Seattle for the rest 119 00:05:19,800 --> 00:05:21,960 Speaker 5: of his life. What is this his tenth year in 120 00:05:22,000 --> 00:05:24,360 Speaker 5: the league. That he's a bigger deal to his team 121 00:05:24,400 --> 00:05:26,200 Speaker 5: than you can possibly imagine. And to me, this was 122 00:05:26,200 --> 00:05:29,400 Speaker 5: such a classic Tyler Locket game. He drawed, he drew 123 00:05:29,440 --> 00:05:31,920 Speaker 5: a PI that led to a TD early and then 124 00:05:32,160 --> 00:05:37,800 Speaker 5: twenty four to twenty one fourth quarter early Seahawks trailing 125 00:05:38,160 --> 00:05:41,240 Speaker 5: third and ten, Big Spot twenty I'm sorry they were 126 00:05:41,240 --> 00:05:43,720 Speaker 5: trailing by four at the time. Trailing by four third 127 00:05:43,720 --> 00:05:46,520 Speaker 5: and ten, Big Spot need that first down. Lockett creates 128 00:05:46,600 --> 00:05:49,760 Speaker 5: so much separation, wins early in the route, gets open 129 00:05:49,839 --> 00:05:52,720 Speaker 5: for genial gets the first down. Very next play gets 130 00:05:52,760 --> 00:05:55,720 Speaker 5: open immediately for Gino who drops it in the bucket 131 00:05:55,760 --> 00:05:59,240 Speaker 5: on a beautiful touchdown pass. And then fast forward to 132 00:05:59,279 --> 00:06:01,880 Speaker 5: overtime win and he needs someone to get open and 133 00:06:02,000 --> 00:06:04,559 Speaker 5: make a play. It's Tyler Lockett, and so he doesn't 134 00:06:04,640 --> 00:06:07,560 Speaker 5: jump off the box score. But it was such a 135 00:06:07,600 --> 00:06:12,440 Speaker 5: smart veteran game by Gino, Lockett and DK Metcalf who 136 00:06:12,480 --> 00:06:15,839 Speaker 5: was fighting through an injury to survive without their two 137 00:06:15,880 --> 00:06:18,040 Speaker 5: starting tackles against this Lions team. 138 00:06:18,680 --> 00:06:21,720 Speaker 4: So it's such a such a Week two type performance 139 00:06:21,839 --> 00:06:23,760 Speaker 4: in general with the NFL, where there's this bounce back 140 00:06:23,800 --> 00:06:26,080 Speaker 4: and we saw from Seattle and Gino looks like it 141 00:06:26,160 --> 00:06:30,080 Speaker 4: played great. Like I have a question because my takeaway 142 00:06:30,080 --> 00:06:34,560 Speaker 4: from watching the Lions against the Chiefs and the opener was, Wow, 143 00:06:34,600 --> 00:06:35,839 Speaker 4: this defense is transformed. 144 00:06:35,839 --> 00:06:36,400 Speaker 1: It's different. 145 00:06:36,400 --> 00:06:39,400 Speaker 4: It's changed the secondary especially, and I'm looking at the numbers, 146 00:06:39,400 --> 00:06:41,560 Speaker 4: say it's like, what happened to Detroit's secondary? 147 00:06:41,680 --> 00:06:44,880 Speaker 1: Well, let's let Dan Campbell start by maybe addressing some 148 00:06:44,920 --> 00:06:45,200 Speaker 1: of that. 149 00:06:45,320 --> 00:06:47,720 Speaker 9: You know, we had our opportunities there again, man, take 150 00:06:47,760 --> 00:06:50,680 Speaker 9: the turnovers away all of a sudden. Man, we're in 151 00:06:50,720 --> 00:06:53,600 Speaker 9: control of that game like we should be. But Ultimately, 152 00:06:54,080 --> 00:06:56,240 Speaker 9: you know what, they got the ball out. We didn't, 153 00:06:56,360 --> 00:06:59,800 Speaker 9: and we put a tremendous amount of stress on our defense. 154 00:07:00,160 --> 00:07:02,440 Speaker 9: You know when you do that, and we did. We 155 00:07:02,880 --> 00:07:06,640 Speaker 9: had some man, you know, we we had some really 156 00:07:06,640 --> 00:07:11,320 Speaker 9: good opportunities that we just didn't capitalize fro him. And look, 157 00:07:11,360 --> 00:07:14,680 Speaker 9: I know it stings, and those guys are disappointed. I'm disappointed. 158 00:07:14,720 --> 00:07:17,920 Speaker 9: The staff is. But my gosh, man, this is this 159 00:07:18,040 --> 00:07:20,320 Speaker 9: is good. You know, we'll get a little humble pie 160 00:07:20,360 --> 00:07:22,760 Speaker 9: here and we got a real good opponent coming in 161 00:07:22,880 --> 00:07:27,080 Speaker 9: next week. And you know they they run it is good, 162 00:07:27,080 --> 00:07:30,480 Speaker 9: if not better than those guys, and they have better weapons. 163 00:07:30,960 --> 00:07:36,360 Speaker 5: I usually think Jan Campbell's pretty straightforward. That was not 164 00:07:36,480 --> 00:07:38,080 Speaker 5: being straightforward his defense. 165 00:07:38,120 --> 00:07:38,880 Speaker 1: He said it was good. 166 00:07:39,240 --> 00:07:41,040 Speaker 5: His defense was bad. I think he's doing the thing. 167 00:07:41,080 --> 00:07:44,080 Speaker 5: It's the Parcels thing too, and he once played for 168 00:07:44,120 --> 00:07:46,920 Speaker 5: Parcels where you pump him up a little bit like 169 00:07:46,960 --> 00:07:50,040 Speaker 5: the people that really need to hear it the negative stuff. 170 00:07:50,080 --> 00:07:52,600 Speaker 5: You don't say it to him after a loss. It 171 00:07:52,640 --> 00:07:55,080 Speaker 5: was on their defense. Yes, the offense turned it over. 172 00:07:55,120 --> 00:07:57,360 Speaker 5: That was the difference in the game, because otherwise I 173 00:07:57,360 --> 00:08:00,800 Speaker 5: think the lines could have put up fifty today. But 174 00:08:00,880 --> 00:08:04,560 Speaker 5: the defense had one quarterback hit the entire game. That 175 00:08:04,640 --> 00:08:08,160 Speaker 5: came on a play where Geno Smith thought that he 176 00:08:08,280 --> 00:08:10,520 Speaker 5: had to take a sack no matter what, and it 177 00:08:10,560 --> 00:08:13,520 Speaker 5: would have been the play that people remember Gino on 178 00:08:13,520 --> 00:08:15,960 Speaker 5: this game for he played like fifty perfect snaps and 179 00:08:15,960 --> 00:08:19,480 Speaker 5: then ran around and took a seventeen yard loss because 180 00:08:19,480 --> 00:08:21,480 Speaker 5: he didn't want to stop the clock even though it 181 00:08:21,520 --> 00:08:23,240 Speaker 5: was the two minute warning right before they gave the 182 00:08:23,240 --> 00:08:25,440 Speaker 5: ball back to the lines late in regulation. That was 183 00:08:25,480 --> 00:08:28,360 Speaker 5: the only time anyone touched Gino the whole game. And yes, 184 00:08:28,400 --> 00:08:30,600 Speaker 5: Gino did a great job navigating the pocket. He got 185 00:08:30,680 --> 00:08:33,720 Speaker 5: rid of the ball pretty well, but their pass rush 186 00:08:34,280 --> 00:08:37,600 Speaker 5: was pretty much absent. The only play Aiden Hutchinson made 187 00:08:37,679 --> 00:08:40,520 Speaker 5: was like a screen pass that he tipped. I mean, 188 00:08:40,520 --> 00:08:44,160 Speaker 5: the Seahawks out schemed them. They could have had more 189 00:08:44,160 --> 00:08:46,880 Speaker 5: points in this game, too, So neither defense covered themselves 190 00:08:46,920 --> 00:08:49,079 Speaker 5: in glory in the lines and make any plays on defense. 191 00:08:51,040 --> 00:08:55,760 Speaker 2: Gino referred to as the adversity killer after this game. 192 00:08:55,760 --> 00:08:59,240 Speaker 2: And by the way, the opponent coming up next is 193 00:08:59,240 --> 00:09:01,480 Speaker 2: the Atlanta Falcons, as a team that obviously loves to 194 00:09:01,559 --> 00:09:03,040 Speaker 2: run the football. 195 00:09:03,200 --> 00:09:04,960 Speaker 5: Did he just say they had bet the Atlanta Falcons 196 00:09:05,000 --> 00:09:06,480 Speaker 5: had better skill players than the Seahawks. 197 00:09:06,520 --> 00:09:07,640 Speaker 3: Weird, little weird. 198 00:09:08,400 --> 00:09:12,520 Speaker 2: It's DK Metcalf who called Gino the adversity killer. So yeah, 199 00:09:12,559 --> 00:09:15,640 Speaker 2: that was after all that disappointment in Week one to 200 00:09:16,080 --> 00:09:18,560 Speaker 2: be able to rally back the way they did it 201 00:09:18,600 --> 00:09:20,280 Speaker 2: and on the line side of the ball. 202 00:09:21,920 --> 00:09:23,600 Speaker 1: The end of this game, because they. 203 00:09:25,040 --> 00:09:27,600 Speaker 2: Had a pick six Jared Goff, I understand in this game, 204 00:09:27,720 --> 00:09:29,320 Speaker 2: and how did they get back into the game. 205 00:09:30,040 --> 00:09:31,160 Speaker 1: Take me through that right. 206 00:09:31,200 --> 00:09:34,640 Speaker 5: So they were up by four as I was mentioning 207 00:09:35,960 --> 00:09:39,040 Speaker 5: twenty one to seventeen going into the fourth quarter. The 208 00:09:39,080 --> 00:09:42,199 Speaker 5: Seahawks end up ripping off two touchdowns and short or 209 00:09:42,240 --> 00:09:44,319 Speaker 5: to the first of the pass from Lockett and then 210 00:09:44,559 --> 00:09:48,319 Speaker 5: Goff on a throw that Campbell said was more of 211 00:09:48,360 --> 00:09:52,120 Speaker 5: a indecisive route by the running back, which was Jamir Gibbs. 212 00:09:52,440 --> 00:09:56,040 Speaker 5: I didn't see that. But injuries really did affect the Lions. 213 00:09:56,160 --> 00:09:58,640 Speaker 5: They were without their left tackle, Taylor Decker, and for 214 00:09:58,640 --> 00:10:00,640 Speaker 5: the most part that was fine, and then they lost 215 00:10:00,720 --> 00:10:03,080 Speaker 5: David Montgomery in the game, who had a costly fumble too, 216 00:10:03,240 --> 00:10:06,640 Speaker 5: and the Montgomery injury did hurt him because they had 217 00:10:06,679 --> 00:10:10,520 Speaker 5: a bad pass protection play right before Goff through that 218 00:10:10,600 --> 00:10:13,160 Speaker 5: interception where he took a sack and then he seemed 219 00:10:13,160 --> 00:10:14,800 Speaker 5: a little spooked and got rid of the ball a 220 00:10:14,800 --> 00:10:17,880 Speaker 5: little too quickly even though pressure wasn't there, and they 221 00:10:17,920 --> 00:10:20,480 Speaker 5: blamed it on Gibbs, but I don't know, it just 222 00:10:20,520 --> 00:10:22,199 Speaker 5: looked like a bad throw and kind of one of 223 00:10:22,240 --> 00:10:26,520 Speaker 5: those GoF gets spooked. After that long interception streak ended, 224 00:10:26,559 --> 00:10:29,520 Speaker 5: so their injuries mattered, and they also lost vy Tie, 225 00:10:29,640 --> 00:10:33,640 Speaker 5: their offensive lineman to what did not look like a 226 00:10:33,679 --> 00:10:35,080 Speaker 5: good injury during the game. 227 00:10:35,120 --> 00:10:36,560 Speaker 3: So that was a couple key losses. 228 00:10:36,559 --> 00:10:38,640 Speaker 4: And that's who they are. I mean, their offensive line 229 00:10:38,679 --> 00:10:40,040 Speaker 4: is the core of I think one of the huge 230 00:10:40,040 --> 00:10:42,880 Speaker 4: reasons that you know, up until today Jared Goff was 231 00:10:42,920 --> 00:10:45,880 Speaker 4: without an interception. That streak is broken. That was very costly. 232 00:10:46,160 --> 00:10:48,120 Speaker 4: Like I thought, I was sort of expecting Gibbs to 233 00:10:48,160 --> 00:10:50,960 Speaker 4: make a leap in this game or soon, and it's 234 00:10:51,000 --> 00:10:54,080 Speaker 4: like seven carries for seventeen yards on the ground. Is 235 00:10:54,120 --> 00:10:55,760 Speaker 4: he just not fully there yet? 236 00:10:56,000 --> 00:10:58,440 Speaker 5: They Yeah, they didn't really do much on the ground 237 00:10:58,440 --> 00:10:59,880 Speaker 5: in general, but you can kind of see why they 238 00:10:59,920 --> 00:11:02,920 Speaker 5: Like Gibbs also busted up Seattle on a couple of 239 00:11:03,000 --> 00:11:05,040 Speaker 5: nice choice routes, Like I'm not that worried about him, 240 00:11:05,040 --> 00:11:06,320 Speaker 5: but you saw why he was underground. 241 00:11:06,360 --> 00:11:08,160 Speaker 3: I do want to give Pete Carroll just a little 242 00:11:08,160 --> 00:11:09,360 Speaker 3: bit of juice though. 243 00:11:09,360 --> 00:11:13,319 Speaker 5: Goes goes for a fourth down on that drive in 244 00:11:13,880 --> 00:11:15,920 Speaker 5: the middle of in the middle of the third quarter 245 00:11:16,120 --> 00:11:18,559 Speaker 5: in his own end is a second straight week we've 246 00:11:18,600 --> 00:11:21,480 Speaker 5: seen some of these old coaches, including Pete going for 247 00:11:21,640 --> 00:11:24,200 Speaker 5: it on fourth down. I think he knew his offense 248 00:11:24,240 --> 00:11:26,679 Speaker 5: had to carry him today and then they went for it. 249 00:11:26,960 --> 00:11:30,520 Speaker 2: And give Pete also some juice. Men's in his seventies 250 00:11:30,559 --> 00:11:34,640 Speaker 2: now that intentional grounding that led to the I'm talking 251 00:11:34,640 --> 00:11:35,880 Speaker 2: to America line. 252 00:11:36,000 --> 00:11:36,640 Speaker 4: He was on fire. 253 00:11:36,720 --> 00:11:39,600 Speaker 2: He was on fire, terrible, terrible, like a man forty 254 00:11:39,679 --> 00:11:43,440 Speaker 2: years as junior. So Pete, It's a never ending flow 255 00:11:43,640 --> 00:11:48,559 Speaker 2: of optimism and energy, very vivacious, extremely and a very 256 00:11:48,640 --> 00:11:50,760 Speaker 2: nice win for the Seahawks and a tough one for 257 00:11:50,880 --> 00:11:53,319 Speaker 2: Detroit who fall to one and one. 258 00:11:53,400 --> 00:11:55,880 Speaker 5: I do want to hear Jaron Reed just quickly for 259 00:11:56,000 --> 00:11:58,680 Speaker 5: you guys who in the locker room after the game 260 00:11:58,720 --> 00:12:01,640 Speaker 5: was wearing a blue ski mat Chauncey Gardner Johnson, who's 261 00:12:01,640 --> 00:12:03,720 Speaker 5: trying to make the blue ski mask a thing in Detroit, 262 00:12:03,760 --> 00:12:06,040 Speaker 5: and all these fans who were so loud greg OL's 263 00:12:06,080 --> 00:12:08,080 Speaker 5: and said it might have been the loudest stadium he's 264 00:12:08,120 --> 00:12:10,240 Speaker 5: ever been in, especially when they made that comeback. A 265 00:12:10,280 --> 00:12:12,080 Speaker 5: lot of people show up with the blue ski mask, 266 00:12:12,120 --> 00:12:17,280 Speaker 5: but Jaron Reid brings it out in the locker room. 267 00:12:17,520 --> 00:12:21,320 Speaker 1: That's the risk for the listeners is a dance. 268 00:12:22,080 --> 00:12:25,120 Speaker 2: There's a huge dance in the locker room and Jaren 269 00:12:25,160 --> 00:12:26,200 Speaker 2: Reid's got the mask on. 270 00:12:27,360 --> 00:12:27,560 Speaker 1: Yeah. 271 00:12:27,559 --> 00:12:30,960 Speaker 2: I didn't like the premise of it, which was Gardner 272 00:12:31,040 --> 00:12:34,679 Speaker 2: Johnson said, you know our defense, you know we're villains 273 00:12:34,760 --> 00:12:36,559 Speaker 2: or something like that, so let's lean into it. 274 00:12:37,400 --> 00:12:38,160 Speaker 1: I don't look at the. 275 00:12:38,080 --> 00:12:40,240 Speaker 2: Lines of villains in any way, even if you want 276 00:12:40,240 --> 00:12:43,120 Speaker 2: to be the bad boys. I like them as a heartwarming, 277 00:12:43,360 --> 00:12:46,320 Speaker 2: lovable group, so I'm fine with the blue mask going away. 278 00:12:46,320 --> 00:12:46,960 Speaker 1: It's not my thing. 279 00:12:47,559 --> 00:12:47,839 Speaker 3: Today. 280 00:12:47,840 --> 00:12:50,959 Speaker 4: They robbed their own offense, so that's not how crime works. 281 00:12:50,960 --> 00:12:53,319 Speaker 4: If you're a smart criminal, well. 282 00:12:53,160 --> 00:12:54,720 Speaker 1: You got to move on from there because there's no 283 00:12:54,800 --> 00:12:55,280 Speaker 1: coming back. 284 00:12:55,800 --> 00:12:57,800 Speaker 4: I think I should maybe, maybe I should move on 285 00:12:58,000 --> 00:13:00,680 Speaker 4: from the whole evening After. 286 00:13:00,480 --> 00:13:04,920 Speaker 2: That, Jim Nance had some howlers today where just some 287 00:13:04,960 --> 00:13:08,800 Speaker 2: different play on words. Where Nance is I think he's 288 00:13:09,200 --> 00:13:12,599 Speaker 2: just leaning into certain elements of his play by play. 289 00:13:12,520 --> 00:13:14,319 Speaker 1: That just ground the Hotel cast to a halt. 290 00:13:14,840 --> 00:13:17,160 Speaker 4: It's very concerning to me that the first place you 291 00:13:17,200 --> 00:13:20,440 Speaker 4: went after my hideous comment was a jim Nance parallel. 292 00:13:20,679 --> 00:13:22,000 Speaker 4: That's not a good trajectory. 293 00:13:22,280 --> 00:13:24,520 Speaker 1: Let's head to Atlanta, then you'll like this better. 294 00:13:24,480 --> 00:13:26,959 Speaker 10: Ball at the seven coup to try the field goal 295 00:13:27,000 --> 00:13:30,000 Speaker 10: to give Atlanta the lead, and the crowd is cooing, 296 00:13:31,760 --> 00:13:35,160 Speaker 10: which has become kind of the norm here in Atlanta. 297 00:13:35,280 --> 00:13:38,079 Speaker 10: And this will be right at twenty six yards. He's 298 00:13:38,120 --> 00:13:40,319 Speaker 10: hit already today from twenty four to thirty three and 299 00:13:40,400 --> 00:13:42,880 Speaker 10: thirty nine. That's going to put it right on the fifteen, 300 00:13:42,960 --> 00:13:46,720 Speaker 10: so it'll be twenty five yards. Pinion to hold McCullough 301 00:13:46,760 --> 00:13:49,840 Speaker 10: to snap on the left, Ash young wife for the lead. 302 00:13:50,080 --> 00:13:51,800 Speaker 3: Snap spot kick is. 303 00:13:51,840 --> 00:13:55,200 Speaker 10: Up and it is perfect, and Atlanta's in front with 304 00:13:55,280 --> 00:13:56,800 Speaker 10: fifty seven suckets left. 305 00:13:57,600 --> 00:14:01,680 Speaker 1: Okay, West there with the call is ZGC. 306 00:14:05,679 --> 00:14:08,240 Speaker 4: Try to contain yourself there on the radio call? 307 00:14:10,559 --> 00:14:12,439 Speaker 1: Yeah maybe maybe okay. 308 00:14:12,480 --> 00:14:15,280 Speaker 2: Bjon Robinson ripped off a seven yard run on fourth 309 00:14:15,280 --> 00:14:15,640 Speaker 2: and one. 310 00:14:16,520 --> 00:14:19,120 Speaker 1: That's set up who's twenty five. 311 00:14:19,000 --> 00:14:21,440 Speaker 2: Yarder with less than a minute to play, and the 312 00:14:21,520 --> 00:14:24,040 Speaker 2: Falcons rally for a twenty five to twenty four win 313 00:14:24,240 --> 00:14:28,760 Speaker 2: over the undermanned Packer is at the big Benz. I 314 00:14:28,880 --> 00:14:32,600 Speaker 2: call it that mark. It appears as if Bijeon or 315 00:14:32,600 --> 00:14:37,160 Speaker 2: Beajean is the immediate difference maker. We all expected him 316 00:14:37,160 --> 00:14:37,320 Speaker 2: to be. 317 00:14:37,680 --> 00:14:41,560 Speaker 4: Looks great through the offense, having a lot of up 318 00:14:41,600 --> 00:14:43,840 Speaker 4: and down moments over the last two weeks. It's not 319 00:14:43,920 --> 00:14:46,720 Speaker 4: ever been anything but consistency from bejeon Robinson, and he 320 00:14:46,800 --> 00:14:49,680 Speaker 4: is in. I think his role just grows weekly. It's 321 00:14:49,680 --> 00:14:52,280 Speaker 4: inevitable that we see less of anyone else from the backfield. 322 00:14:52,320 --> 00:14:54,560 Speaker 4: He's just that powerful. I mean, I want to mention 323 00:14:54,600 --> 00:14:58,240 Speaker 4: how we got to that moment though that kick, because 324 00:14:58,720 --> 00:15:01,320 Speaker 4: I thought the Falcons two thirds of the way through 325 00:15:01,320 --> 00:15:04,080 Speaker 4: this game, I was sort of imagining this show and 326 00:15:04,560 --> 00:15:06,680 Speaker 4: mentioned to Greg that I thought we probably gonna get 327 00:15:06,720 --> 00:15:07,600 Speaker 4: Verbally last we. 328 00:15:07,560 --> 00:15:10,120 Speaker 5: Were nervous in theory at about this Falcons. We were 329 00:15:10,120 --> 00:15:13,360 Speaker 5: nervous about what big old mean bully Dan was gonna 330 00:15:13,360 --> 00:15:15,000 Speaker 5: do to us, and there was reason for it. 331 00:15:15,000 --> 00:15:17,200 Speaker 1: It's terrible. You guys have a bad attitude. 332 00:15:17,560 --> 00:15:23,720 Speaker 4: Okay, that separate, separate of this this having this conversation again, 333 00:15:23,760 --> 00:15:27,440 Speaker 4: separate oft that the Falcons were not looking like the 334 00:15:27,520 --> 00:15:29,800 Speaker 4: hype machine that we had been discussing over the past 335 00:15:29,880 --> 00:15:32,640 Speaker 4: couple of weeks. Desmond Rider really up and down, and 336 00:15:32,680 --> 00:15:34,680 Speaker 4: it's just like they weren't the some of their parts. 337 00:15:35,200 --> 00:15:37,440 Speaker 4: I thought they grew up today a little bit. They evolved, 338 00:15:37,520 --> 00:15:39,760 Speaker 4: and it has a lot to do with Arthur Smith 339 00:15:39,760 --> 00:15:42,720 Speaker 4: for me. They were down twelve points in the fourth quarter. 340 00:15:43,320 --> 00:15:47,640 Speaker 4: They reel off thirteen consecutive scored on their final four possessions, 341 00:15:48,080 --> 00:15:50,520 Speaker 4: and part of it is, you know, they're down twenty 342 00:15:50,520 --> 00:15:52,720 Speaker 4: four to twenty two just before the two minute warning 343 00:15:53,120 --> 00:15:55,800 Speaker 4: and they're at that fourth and inches situation, and a 344 00:15:55,880 --> 00:15:59,720 Speaker 4: lesser coach might say, let's just co the go field 345 00:15:59,760 --> 00:16:01,760 Speaker 4: goal here. Instead, Arthur Smith does not want to give 346 00:16:01,760 --> 00:16:04,120 Speaker 4: the ball back to Green Bay on fourth and gency 347 00:16:04,200 --> 00:16:07,800 Speaker 4: dials up that Bejon Robinson run. Previously in the game 348 00:16:07,800 --> 00:16:09,800 Speaker 4: when they were down twenty four to twelve, they had 349 00:16:09,800 --> 00:16:12,920 Speaker 4: a fourth and four from the Packers six. Again, he's like, 350 00:16:12,920 --> 00:16:15,920 Speaker 4: I'm gonna trust my offense and on that play Desmond 351 00:16:15,960 --> 00:16:18,880 Speaker 4: Ridder rolled out ran into the end zone for a score. 352 00:16:18,920 --> 00:16:21,480 Speaker 4: So it's like Arthur Smith foot on the gas over 353 00:16:21,520 --> 00:16:24,120 Speaker 4: and over, trusting his skilled position players to grow up, 354 00:16:24,520 --> 00:16:27,840 Speaker 4: and that move to have Robinson do that milk that 355 00:16:27,920 --> 00:16:30,640 Speaker 4: clock down, and it put Jordan Love, who have a 356 00:16:30,680 --> 00:16:33,840 Speaker 4: really particularly great game today in general, into a tough spot. 357 00:16:33,840 --> 00:16:36,480 Speaker 4: He laid about a minute to operate after that and 358 00:16:37,120 --> 00:16:39,680 Speaker 4: looked lost like that. The Packers offense couldn't do anything 359 00:16:39,680 --> 00:16:42,840 Speaker 4: at that point and Atlanta completed the comeback. And there's 360 00:16:42,880 --> 00:16:46,080 Speaker 4: a lot to say about the Packers' young receivers, about 361 00:16:46,520 --> 00:16:49,360 Speaker 4: the ups and downs with Desmond Ridder about in general, 362 00:16:49,440 --> 00:16:51,880 Speaker 4: I think where this Falcons offense is, but I kind 363 00:16:51,920 --> 00:16:54,840 Speaker 4: of love that. I think what Arthur Smith is building 364 00:16:54,920 --> 00:16:57,560 Speaker 4: is coming into focus to some degree. This would have 365 00:16:57,600 --> 00:16:59,760 Speaker 4: been an easy one had that final like twenty minutes 366 00:16:59,760 --> 00:17:01,280 Speaker 4: of the game game gone differently to be like the 367 00:17:01,320 --> 00:17:03,800 Speaker 4: Falcons are half baked. I think they grew today. 368 00:17:03,840 --> 00:17:06,680 Speaker 5: This is the recipe. Now they should get this win 369 00:17:06,920 --> 00:17:10,359 Speaker 5: at home when the Packers don't have David Baktiari, which 370 00:17:10,400 --> 00:17:14,040 Speaker 5: is that was surprising, Aaron Jones not there, Christian Watson 371 00:17:14,119 --> 00:17:17,240 Speaker 5: not there, Elton Jenkins leaves during the game. So you 372 00:17:17,280 --> 00:17:23,200 Speaker 5: could argue that's their four best players on offense, unless 373 00:17:23,240 --> 00:17:24,800 Speaker 5: you want to throw Jordan Levin as one of their 374 00:17:24,800 --> 00:17:29,119 Speaker 5: best players on offense. But they also did exactly what 375 00:17:29,160 --> 00:17:31,960 Speaker 5: the Falcons are supposed to do. They dominated this game 376 00:17:32,000 --> 00:17:33,640 Speaker 5: in the line of screwers. Four hundred and forty six 377 00:17:33,720 --> 00:17:36,560 Speaker 5: yards to two twenty four. That's the profile of a 378 00:17:36,560 --> 00:17:39,920 Speaker 5: game that's not close. Seventy eight plays to forty seven. 379 00:17:40,000 --> 00:17:42,399 Speaker 5: That's them wearing down. And so maybe it's not that surprising. 380 00:17:42,400 --> 00:17:44,520 Speaker 5: They had a fourth quarter, so maybe this game shouldn't 381 00:17:44,560 --> 00:17:46,199 Speaker 5: have been as close. But you still see what the 382 00:17:46,200 --> 00:17:46,760 Speaker 5: Falcons is. 383 00:17:46,680 --> 00:17:49,480 Speaker 4: Forty five carries, four point seven yards per rush. 384 00:17:49,840 --> 00:17:51,000 Speaker 1: There's progress here. 385 00:17:51,040 --> 00:17:52,880 Speaker 2: I thought it was kind of a bad game plan 386 00:17:52,960 --> 00:17:55,760 Speaker 2: last week and Smith was defensive about it, and now 387 00:17:55,800 --> 00:17:58,200 Speaker 2: it makes more sense. Here's Jean Robinson. He's leading the 388 00:17:58,240 --> 00:18:01,040 Speaker 2: game and team and carries that make sense. He has 389 00:18:01,119 --> 00:18:04,399 Speaker 2: twenty three touches. That's you're going in or twenty two touches. 390 00:18:04,560 --> 00:18:06,639 Speaker 2: Excuse me, twenty three touches that's going in for one 391 00:18:06,840 --> 00:18:10,959 Speaker 2: seventy two right direction. Kyle Pitts still lives somewhere, but 392 00:18:11,040 --> 00:18:13,719 Speaker 2: not on this roster. But you've got Drake London more involved. 393 00:18:13,720 --> 00:18:16,240 Speaker 2: The seven targets. He edded a touchdown. Just you know, 394 00:18:16,320 --> 00:18:18,240 Speaker 2: I'll have to watch the game, but I know Ritter 395 00:18:18,320 --> 00:18:21,800 Speaker 2: started very poorly and depending on you know, who's watching 396 00:18:21,800 --> 00:18:23,600 Speaker 2: the game and how you want to see it. I 397 00:18:23,680 --> 00:18:25,960 Speaker 2: was I was reading that there could have been many 398 00:18:25,960 --> 00:18:29,960 Speaker 2: more potential turnovers for Ritter if the bounces go against Atlanta. 399 00:18:30,359 --> 00:18:32,199 Speaker 1: But I'm not here to ran on the parade. You 400 00:18:32,200 --> 00:18:33,399 Speaker 1: guys watch it. No, No, I. 401 00:18:33,400 --> 00:18:35,960 Speaker 4: Think I think Ritter is the parade stopper. If you 402 00:18:35,960 --> 00:18:37,760 Speaker 4: don't get he threw, you know, he threw his first 403 00:18:37,760 --> 00:18:41,200 Speaker 4: career interception today. He also threw a pass right into 404 00:18:41,200 --> 00:18:43,560 Speaker 4: the arms of quay Walker that like, quay Walker's gonna 405 00:18:43,560 --> 00:18:45,200 Speaker 4: be thinking about that all week. He should not have 406 00:18:45,280 --> 00:18:48,240 Speaker 4: dropped it. He should have had three picks. He is 407 00:18:48,320 --> 00:18:51,080 Speaker 4: really inconsistent throwing the ball deep, but he did. They did. 408 00:18:51,400 --> 00:18:53,280 Speaker 4: Arthur Smith kept trying and he had a couple of 409 00:18:53,280 --> 00:18:55,399 Speaker 4: deep connections that made a difference in this game. But 410 00:18:55,480 --> 00:18:57,680 Speaker 4: you're kind of riding that ridder wave. I'm not sort 411 00:18:57,720 --> 00:19:00,879 Speaker 4: of selling him as the light bulb and this operation. 412 00:19:01,119 --> 00:19:02,560 Speaker 2: This was nice though, I mean it's a it's a 413 00:19:02,560 --> 00:19:05,560 Speaker 2: comeback victory. I think this team is built to play 414 00:19:05,600 --> 00:19:09,000 Speaker 2: from ahead. All teams are, but this team especially. That 415 00:19:09,040 --> 00:19:12,280 Speaker 2: would be my only concern around Atlanta because I think 416 00:19:12,280 --> 00:19:14,119 Speaker 2: this running game, I think we all know is for 417 00:19:14,200 --> 00:19:16,960 Speaker 2: real and if the defense can play at a certain level. 418 00:19:17,200 --> 00:19:19,720 Speaker 2: I don't know if this was a real test in 419 00:19:19,800 --> 00:19:21,760 Speaker 2: Week one in Week two because Green Bay was so 420 00:19:21,880 --> 00:19:24,200 Speaker 2: banged up the Panthers in Week one, I don't know 421 00:19:24,200 --> 00:19:26,520 Speaker 2: about their defense yet. But this has been a two 422 00:19:26,520 --> 00:19:28,400 Speaker 2: and oh though. Yeah, you can't take that away. That's 423 00:19:28,400 --> 00:19:29,639 Speaker 2: a you can't start any better. 424 00:19:30,040 --> 00:19:33,960 Speaker 5: It's been a perfect setup to start this season. Two 425 00:19:34,000 --> 00:19:36,960 Speaker 5: home games like this, where you get the Panthers the 426 00:19:36,960 --> 00:19:39,000 Speaker 5: first week and then the Packers I think are a 427 00:19:39,040 --> 00:19:42,600 Speaker 5: tough opponent, but with the injuries that they had. 428 00:19:41,920 --> 00:19:45,120 Speaker 2: The David Bactiari situation for the Packers which has been 429 00:19:45,160 --> 00:19:49,119 Speaker 2: ongoing for years now, literally years, and we were trying 430 00:19:49,119 --> 00:19:51,000 Speaker 2: to decipher it Gregie at the end of the summer 431 00:19:51,080 --> 00:19:53,960 Speaker 2: leading into the season, and then we thought maybe veteran 432 00:19:54,040 --> 00:19:56,440 Speaker 2: rest days actually did mean that it was just a 433 00:19:56,520 --> 00:19:59,280 Speaker 2: veteran restae because then he played last week this week 434 00:19:59,359 --> 00:20:01,880 Speaker 2: not around and and now Lafloor adds a little more 435 00:20:01,960 --> 00:20:04,680 Speaker 2: context to it, and you realize, really what the Packers 436 00:20:04,720 --> 00:20:06,600 Speaker 2: are up against with one of their most important players. 437 00:20:09,480 --> 00:20:12,600 Speaker 11: You're gonna know, I mean, we all know that Dave's 438 00:20:12,640 --> 00:20:16,440 Speaker 11: been dealing with this and so no, so. 439 00:20:16,440 --> 00:20:18,199 Speaker 9: It could just be a thing where he doesn't play anything. 440 00:20:18,560 --> 00:20:21,240 Speaker 11: You guys, I'm not going to get into that, Mike. 441 00:20:22,240 --> 00:20:25,120 Speaker 11: We all know this has been this is two years now, 442 00:20:25,680 --> 00:20:27,720 Speaker 11: so I'm not going to get into it. It's probably 443 00:20:27,720 --> 00:20:29,360 Speaker 11: gonna be like this from here on out. 444 00:20:29,840 --> 00:20:30,159 Speaker 3: Mhm. 445 00:20:30,640 --> 00:20:30,919 Speaker 1: He was. 446 00:20:31,240 --> 00:20:34,800 Speaker 2: He was being asked if doctor doesn't play on artificial turf. Now, 447 00:20:34,840 --> 00:20:36,439 Speaker 2: if that's going to be and maybe it's only at 448 00:20:36,480 --> 00:20:39,400 Speaker 2: home games at Lambeau and road games on grass. 449 00:20:39,560 --> 00:20:40,560 Speaker 1: We'll see. 450 00:20:40,880 --> 00:20:44,200 Speaker 2: Obviously it's tender situation. Let's uh any other thoughts on 451 00:20:44,240 --> 00:20:46,120 Speaker 2: the game. I would just say that when you're yes, 452 00:20:46,200 --> 00:20:50,200 Speaker 2: you were without those guys. But Jaden Reid really nice 453 00:20:50,240 --> 00:20:54,840 Speaker 2: game today, two touchdowns, Dontavian Wicks making big plays. It's 454 00:20:54,840 --> 00:20:57,560 Speaker 2: like they're just so young that like David BAKTIERI feels 455 00:20:57,560 --> 00:20:59,560 Speaker 2: from like eight years ago to me. I know he's 456 00:20:59,560 --> 00:21:01,840 Speaker 2: so important to them, but it's like they are growing 457 00:21:01,880 --> 00:21:03,800 Speaker 2: this young offense. And I thought that Jordan Love like 458 00:21:04,119 --> 00:21:07,080 Speaker 2: after two games, I'm sold, like this guy can play. 459 00:21:07,200 --> 00:21:09,359 Speaker 2: I mean, they they kind of fizzled out over the 460 00:21:09,359 --> 00:21:12,160 Speaker 2: final three drives. That didn't That wasn't a great look. 461 00:21:12,160 --> 00:21:14,320 Speaker 2: But like Jordan Love was making plays all over the place. 462 00:21:14,359 --> 00:21:16,600 Speaker 2: I think we need to represent the Packers fan base 463 00:21:16,640 --> 00:21:19,800 Speaker 2: here because behind the glass before we started, I was 464 00:21:19,800 --> 00:21:22,920 Speaker 2: talking to Randy big Funk and. 465 00:21:23,840 --> 00:21:24,879 Speaker 12: Yeah I was venting a little bit. 466 00:21:24,920 --> 00:21:26,600 Speaker 2: Yeah he was pissed, and that's good. Tell me what 467 00:21:26,640 --> 00:21:29,080 Speaker 2: you were What were you saying to me behind the glass. 468 00:21:30,200 --> 00:21:32,080 Speaker 12: I said some things along the likes of Joe Barry 469 00:21:32,080 --> 00:21:35,040 Speaker 12: should walk home, Yes, walk back to Wisconsin. There was 470 00:21:35,040 --> 00:21:36,680 Speaker 12: a moment in the game that I think really stood 471 00:21:36,680 --> 00:21:40,840 Speaker 12: out where Campbell are all pro linebacker lined up against 472 00:21:40,960 --> 00:21:42,880 Speaker 12: John Robinson. It's like, you can't be making those kinds 473 00:21:42,880 --> 00:21:46,240 Speaker 12: of calls that lay in the game against someone that explosive. 474 00:21:46,760 --> 00:21:48,680 Speaker 12: And then also it was you know, it was really 475 00:21:48,720 --> 00:21:51,480 Speaker 12: hard because A J. Dillon just he can't like go 476 00:21:51,520 --> 00:21:53,919 Speaker 12: more than five yards or something without tripping somehow. And 477 00:21:53,960 --> 00:21:56,880 Speaker 12: it's like, I get it. He's the big bruiser, he's 478 00:21:56,920 --> 00:21:57,480 Speaker 12: the big truck. 479 00:21:57,640 --> 00:21:59,080 Speaker 3: He's a good backup riding back. 480 00:21:59,119 --> 00:22:02,640 Speaker 12: But yeah, but if he if he's try, if he's 481 00:22:02,640 --> 00:22:05,600 Speaker 12: your truck, but your truck blows the tire every four yards, 482 00:22:05,600 --> 00:22:06,480 Speaker 12: it's like it's frustrated. 483 00:22:06,520 --> 00:22:07,600 Speaker 4: Got a problem, vehicle problem? 484 00:22:07,640 --> 00:22:09,400 Speaker 12: You got a problem and the young guys look great, 485 00:22:09,560 --> 00:22:11,520 Speaker 12: but and I mean it's that's that's saying one thing 486 00:22:11,520 --> 00:22:13,960 Speaker 12: because everyone's young on that team. But I mean it 487 00:22:14,080 --> 00:22:16,680 Speaker 12: was just it was tough man that and those two 488 00:22:16,680 --> 00:22:22,639 Speaker 12: big interceptions that the guys they gotta get, you know, it's. 489 00:22:20,960 --> 00:22:23,080 Speaker 4: The quay Walker one was just like that was tough 490 00:22:23,160 --> 00:22:23,720 Speaker 4: sitting there. 491 00:22:23,760 --> 00:22:25,879 Speaker 12: But Jai had a that a that's a touchdown, that's 492 00:22:25,880 --> 00:22:27,320 Speaker 12: a pick six, And it's like, you can't if you're 493 00:22:27,320 --> 00:22:29,520 Speaker 12: gonna talk all that and you're gonna you're gonna have 494 00:22:29,520 --> 00:22:31,800 Speaker 12: that person you're gonna carry on the field, you gotta 495 00:22:31,840 --> 00:22:33,639 Speaker 12: back it up. And it's i'mna be honest. He was 496 00:22:33,640 --> 00:22:35,800 Speaker 12: getting cooked for a good part of this game by 497 00:22:35,840 --> 00:22:37,560 Speaker 12: a lot of the receivers. 498 00:22:38,880 --> 00:22:43,240 Speaker 5: Joe Berry is the potentially the off season sin though 499 00:22:43,359 --> 00:22:45,639 Speaker 5: that sets this team back, because I was curious. This 500 00:22:45,760 --> 00:22:48,000 Speaker 5: was like a early litmus test of is this Packers 501 00:22:48,080 --> 00:22:51,480 Speaker 5: evens any different? Because they haven't stopped the run for 502 00:22:51,600 --> 00:22:53,760 Speaker 5: three straight years. This is as tough a test as 503 00:22:53,800 --> 00:22:55,320 Speaker 5: you can get, and in this game, no, they really 504 00:22:55,320 --> 00:22:57,000 Speaker 5: weren't any different. They did not stop the run. 505 00:22:57,440 --> 00:23:00,040 Speaker 2: Uh, let's head to the big Chlorian tank where the 506 00:23:00,080 --> 00:23:02,479 Speaker 2: Chiefs are looking to get off the mat after a 507 00:23:02,680 --> 00:23:04,119 Speaker 2: frustrating Week one loss. 508 00:23:04,280 --> 00:23:06,680 Speaker 6: Third and three, Mahomes and the Chiefs at the Jaguar 509 00:23:06,800 --> 00:23:09,679 Speaker 6: nine seven to six Kansas City eleven forty two to 510 00:23:09,720 --> 00:23:13,160 Speaker 6: go third quarter, single back McKinnon in front of Mahomes 511 00:23:13,240 --> 00:23:17,080 Speaker 6: this time snapped back to Mahomes rules to his right side, 512 00:23:17,240 --> 00:23:17,920 Speaker 6: now throws. 513 00:23:17,720 --> 00:23:19,960 Speaker 13: It for Kelsey wide opening the end zone. 514 00:23:19,880 --> 00:23:26,840 Speaker 6: Touchdown Kansas City. The forty seventh time that Patrick Mahomes 515 00:23:27,040 --> 00:23:30,840 Speaker 6: has found Travis Kelsey in the sweet nectar the end zone. 516 00:23:30,880 --> 00:23:34,919 Speaker 6: That's an old time Kansas City Chiefs record quarterback to 517 00:23:34,960 --> 00:23:37,160 Speaker 6: a pass catcher Kelsey's back. 518 00:23:39,440 --> 00:23:46,040 Speaker 2: Bench Holdnis wdaf Kelsey caught that touchdwn pass. It was 519 00:23:46,080 --> 00:23:49,679 Speaker 2: to go ahead and eventually game decide and score for 520 00:23:49,720 --> 00:23:53,120 Speaker 2: the Chiefs, who don't really surge again for the second 521 00:23:53,160 --> 00:23:55,840 Speaker 2: street wake on offense, but it was enough to take 522 00:23:55,880 --> 00:24:00,280 Speaker 2: care of the Jacksonville Jaguar seventeen to nine in the 523 00:24:00,400 --> 00:24:06,760 Speaker 2: rematch of the AFC Divisional playoffs last week. Boys, this game, 524 00:24:06,880 --> 00:24:11,400 Speaker 2: I kept on waiting for it to achieve liftoff. Did 525 00:24:11,440 --> 00:24:14,920 Speaker 2: it never really happened and Kansas City had three early 526 00:24:15,280 --> 00:24:19,359 Speaker 2: turnovers in this game and the Jaguars had multiple opportunities 527 00:24:19,359 --> 00:24:22,960 Speaker 2: on offense, including a first, first and goal situation where 528 00:24:22,960 --> 00:24:25,520 Speaker 2: they couldn't punch it in, and in the end, it 529 00:24:25,560 --> 00:24:29,360 Speaker 2: was one of those games where both head coaches are saying, man, 530 00:24:29,400 --> 00:24:31,840 Speaker 2: I wish we would have played better, but one side 531 00:24:31,880 --> 00:24:33,399 Speaker 2: gets to go home with the win, and it was 532 00:24:33,400 --> 00:24:34,760 Speaker 2: the visitors from Kansas City. 533 00:24:34,840 --> 00:24:38,480 Speaker 4: These Trevor Lawrence passes into the back of the end 534 00:24:38,600 --> 00:24:41,280 Speaker 4: zone where Zay Jones like, you know, if you're half 535 00:24:41,320 --> 00:24:44,360 Speaker 4: an inch two inches different in a different position, it's 536 00:24:44,359 --> 00:24:46,919 Speaker 4: a touchdown. I think another one to Calvin Ridley's similar 537 00:24:46,960 --> 00:24:50,080 Speaker 4: situations like this game came down to those plays. I 538 00:24:50,119 --> 00:24:54,040 Speaker 4: thought for Jacksonville because I'm watching a Chiefs offense that 539 00:24:54,520 --> 00:24:56,240 Speaker 4: is still waiting to get on track. It's nice to 540 00:24:56,280 --> 00:24:58,720 Speaker 4: see sky Moore show up a little bit more. He 541 00:24:58,800 --> 00:25:01,320 Speaker 4: played a ton of snaps las week and had zero production. 542 00:25:02,440 --> 00:25:05,280 Speaker 4: Kadarius Tony caught all five targets. I guess that's a positive. 543 00:25:05,680 --> 00:25:07,639 Speaker 4: Kelsey caught just four of nine, and he seems so 544 00:25:07,760 --> 00:25:10,199 Speaker 4: steam during this game. They kept cutting a hint, just 545 00:25:10,240 --> 00:25:11,359 Speaker 4: like freaking. 546 00:25:11,000 --> 00:25:11,680 Speaker 1: Out on the flow. 547 00:25:11,840 --> 00:25:13,920 Speaker 2: It should be said that everyone was steaming, because I 548 00:25:13,960 --> 00:25:17,320 Speaker 2: believe it was around one hundred degrees kick off, saying 549 00:25:17,359 --> 00:25:18,800 Speaker 2: more temperament right. 550 00:25:18,640 --> 00:25:21,359 Speaker 1: Well, which could also lead to temperamate changes you. 551 00:25:21,400 --> 00:25:23,440 Speaker 3: Want to Tokyo, it. 552 00:25:23,400 --> 00:25:25,639 Speaker 2: Can really lead you to be more amped up and 553 00:25:25,720 --> 00:25:28,760 Speaker 2: deal with frustrating. It's happened to us number our Draft 554 00:25:28,800 --> 00:25:34,840 Speaker 2: live show. I mean, yeah, a lot of frustration on 555 00:25:34,960 --> 00:25:36,480 Speaker 2: both sides of the ball. I want to point out 556 00:25:36,480 --> 00:25:39,040 Speaker 2: also that the Chiefs, in addition to the three turnovers, 557 00:25:40,080 --> 00:25:42,679 Speaker 2: had a ton of penalties in this game, twelve penalties 558 00:25:42,960 --> 00:25:47,040 Speaker 2: for ninety four yards and a lot of players cramping 559 00:25:47,040 --> 00:25:47,480 Speaker 2: on the field. 560 00:25:47,520 --> 00:25:48,320 Speaker 1: I kind of hate that. 561 00:25:48,760 --> 00:25:51,159 Speaker 2: Like you know, I grew up in the Northeast, Like 562 00:25:51,200 --> 00:25:53,800 Speaker 2: football to me is the leaves falling and some crisp 563 00:25:54,160 --> 00:25:55,000 Speaker 2: Christmas in the air. 564 00:25:55,160 --> 00:25:56,879 Speaker 3: Also a week two that feels like it makes it 565 00:25:56,920 --> 00:25:57,480 Speaker 3: even tougher. 566 00:25:57,680 --> 00:25:58,080 Speaker 1: I think that. 567 00:25:58,320 --> 00:26:00,840 Speaker 2: I think the weather and the element absolutely played it 568 00:26:00,960 --> 00:26:04,840 Speaker 2: played it effect in these offenses struggling, and yeah, the 569 00:26:05,240 --> 00:26:08,560 Speaker 2: Laurens side and the near misses, that's that's frustrating. On 570 00:26:08,600 --> 00:26:12,160 Speaker 2: the positive side for one of the teams here, Chris 571 00:26:12,240 --> 00:26:15,520 Speaker 2: Jones came back and had an immediate impact in this game, 572 00:26:16,400 --> 00:26:18,320 Speaker 2: so you have you have him in the mix now. 573 00:26:18,760 --> 00:26:21,280 Speaker 2: On the negative, side. For the Chiefs, you have Juwan Taylor, 574 00:26:21,600 --> 00:26:26,120 Speaker 2: who started his career with the Jaguars. His homecoming was terrible. 575 00:26:26,160 --> 00:26:29,800 Speaker 2: He was penalized five times bench t verse series, flagged 576 00:26:29,800 --> 00:26:32,600 Speaker 2: twice for fall wow, once for an illegal formation, and 577 00:26:32,640 --> 00:26:36,280 Speaker 2: twice for holding. So it's just it's just not even there. 578 00:26:36,359 --> 00:26:39,040 Speaker 2: The whole game was a little bit like man like a. 579 00:26:39,000 --> 00:26:41,280 Speaker 3: Tough spot for the number one overall picking our draft. 580 00:26:41,440 --> 00:26:44,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, zeusters, I was I was waiting for this game 581 00:26:44,240 --> 00:26:44,760 Speaker 2: to take off. 582 00:26:44,760 --> 00:26:46,239 Speaker 1: It just couldn't couldn't get it. 583 00:26:46,240 --> 00:26:50,160 Speaker 2: And even Iron Eagle, the normally dependable Iron Eagle, after 584 00:26:50,160 --> 00:26:53,399 Speaker 2: the Kelsey touchdown, he is quote Kelsey finds a blank 585 00:26:53,440 --> 00:26:57,080 Speaker 2: space for the score, referring to the Taylor Swiss. And 586 00:26:57,119 --> 00:26:59,280 Speaker 2: I'm just like, at this point, it's already. I know 587 00:26:59,320 --> 00:27:01,720 Speaker 2: there's a relations and ship versioning here. Go deeper in 588 00:27:01,760 --> 00:27:02,600 Speaker 2: the catalog for me. 589 00:27:03,000 --> 00:27:05,720 Speaker 1: I don't if you want to impress me, ah, go 590 00:27:05,760 --> 00:27:06,560 Speaker 1: a little deeper. 591 00:27:06,320 --> 00:27:08,680 Speaker 3: Than you want to. You want people to get the joke. 592 00:27:08,840 --> 00:27:10,560 Speaker 1: No, you don't. You want to go so deep that 593 00:27:10,600 --> 00:27:12,560 Speaker 1: only the real ones get. No, that's my take. 594 00:27:12,680 --> 00:27:14,720 Speaker 4: I don't know if Iron Eagle would. 595 00:27:14,480 --> 00:27:16,520 Speaker 1: Be the bad beat by Eagle. He's a swifty pot. 596 00:27:16,760 --> 00:27:18,120 Speaker 4: He does well, he does very well. 597 00:27:18,440 --> 00:27:22,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly, And if Kelsey's knee is still bothering him, 598 00:27:23,200 --> 00:27:25,080 Speaker 2: you wouldn't know because he punted the ball into the 599 00:27:25,200 --> 00:27:28,440 Speaker 2: end from the end zone in celebration. He but only 600 00:27:28,480 --> 00:27:30,680 Speaker 2: four catches on nine targets or twenty six yards. 601 00:27:30,720 --> 00:27:32,920 Speaker 3: So missed opportunity. 602 00:27:32,520 --> 00:27:34,960 Speaker 4: Is watching Chiefs games now, Sorry, Gregley. 603 00:27:34,960 --> 00:27:35,359 Speaker 1: I don't know. 604 00:27:35,600 --> 00:27:37,959 Speaker 2: I haven't really done the necessary deep dive if this 605 00:27:38,000 --> 00:27:38,880 Speaker 2: is even a real thing. 606 00:27:39,000 --> 00:27:40,520 Speaker 4: Okay, So I don't know. 607 00:27:40,920 --> 00:27:43,920 Speaker 5: I don't think anyone really knows. Even Jason Kelsey was 608 00:27:43,920 --> 00:27:45,800 Speaker 5: asked about it and he was not going to be talking. 609 00:27:45,920 --> 00:27:46,840 Speaker 3: It's a missed opportunity. 610 00:27:46,880 --> 00:27:49,240 Speaker 5: Jaguars could have put the Chiefs head oz in two, 611 00:27:49,600 --> 00:27:51,120 Speaker 5: could have had a tie breaker, could have been two 612 00:27:51,119 --> 00:27:54,639 Speaker 5: games up on the Chiefs, and held the Chiefs to 613 00:27:54,760 --> 00:27:58,080 Speaker 5: seventeen points. It's only seven times in the Mahomes era 614 00:27:58,720 --> 00:28:00,639 Speaker 5: that they've scored seventeen points or less. 615 00:28:01,040 --> 00:28:03,600 Speaker 3: And you don't even get a touchdown. You're an offensive team. 616 00:28:03,680 --> 00:28:06,879 Speaker 2: It's a good ball, and it's in your building, and 617 00:28:06,920 --> 00:28:10,040 Speaker 2: you circled it as a revenge game after the playoffs, 618 00:28:10,040 --> 00:28:12,359 Speaker 2: and you have the Chiefs still finding themselves This is 619 00:28:12,400 --> 00:28:14,600 Speaker 2: when you want to get to catch the Chiefs and 620 00:28:14,640 --> 00:28:18,200 Speaker 2: you didn't. So yeah, not a good performance by the Jaguars, 621 00:28:18,240 --> 00:28:20,280 Speaker 2: who only had two hundred and seventy one total yards 622 00:28:20,280 --> 00:28:22,560 Speaker 2: in the game. All right, let's take a break and 623 00:28:22,600 --> 00:28:27,840 Speaker 2: then we'll welcome in our weekly guest. All right, welcome back. 624 00:28:27,960 --> 00:28:30,639 Speaker 2: We keep on rolling now and it's time for the 625 00:28:30,680 --> 00:28:35,120 Speaker 2: Sunday Drive presented by the first ever Toyota Grand Highlander. 626 00:28:36,000 --> 00:28:37,040 Speaker 4: Pat mccards. 627 00:28:37,200 --> 00:28:41,000 Speaker 14: Edwards to the backfield, Lamar Jackson under center, third down 628 00:28:41,080 --> 00:28:43,960 Speaker 14: and three or third down and ball game. 629 00:28:44,960 --> 00:28:46,360 Speaker 1: Give us to Edwards up the middle. 630 00:28:46,400 --> 00:28:48,600 Speaker 4: He's got a hole, he's got a first down. 631 00:28:48,720 --> 00:28:51,120 Speaker 10: I'm with one ten left of playing Cincinnati. 632 00:28:51,880 --> 00:28:54,680 Speaker 1: He's in the barn. There it is, and the Ravens. 633 00:28:54,360 --> 00:28:57,040 Speaker 10: Will pick up win number two in the twenty twenty 634 00:28:57,080 --> 00:29:00,200 Speaker 10: three season. I think this isn't Eddy Bingals fans the 635 00:29:00,240 --> 00:29:02,800 Speaker 10: hazes in the barn and they are going to find 636 00:29:02,800 --> 00:29:03,520 Speaker 10: their horses. 637 00:29:04,040 --> 00:29:06,480 Speaker 3: John Harbaugh was pumped on the sideline. 638 00:29:06,560 --> 00:29:13,840 Speaker 1: Wow, Wow, Rod Woodson, and they are going find their horses. 639 00:29:14,160 --> 00:29:19,200 Speaker 2: Jerry Sandusky and Woodson with a call Ravens Radio. Yes, 640 00:29:19,320 --> 00:29:22,680 Speaker 2: the big first down conversion by Gus Edwards and Lamar 641 00:29:22,800 --> 00:29:26,959 Speaker 2: Jackson again looking like the MVP the Ravens need him 642 00:29:27,000 --> 00:29:30,400 Speaker 2: to be this season. He threw two touchdown passes, repeatedly 643 00:29:30,440 --> 00:29:34,480 Speaker 2: extended drives with his legs, and Baltimore topped the still 644 00:29:34,560 --> 00:29:36,600 Speaker 2: slumbering Bengals twenty seven to twenty four. 645 00:29:36,720 --> 00:29:37,600 Speaker 1: Let's now welcome in. 646 00:29:37,560 --> 00:29:43,160 Speaker 2: The great Nick Shook, who looks like a man that's 647 00:29:43,200 --> 00:29:45,720 Speaker 2: as pumped up as John Harbaugh was on the sideline 648 00:29:45,720 --> 00:29:46,520 Speaker 2: after that first down. 649 00:29:46,560 --> 00:29:47,000 Speaker 4: There it is. 650 00:29:47,160 --> 00:29:50,160 Speaker 15: I'm still trying to find my horse. Where is it? 651 00:29:50,240 --> 00:29:52,320 Speaker 15: What kind of thoroughbread do I have? Is it an Arabian? 652 00:29:52,600 --> 00:29:53,600 Speaker 15: Get a quarter horse? 653 00:29:53,920 --> 00:29:54,360 Speaker 1: Horses? 654 00:29:54,680 --> 00:29:58,720 Speaker 5: Apple Loosa in Rod Woodson like the head coach in 655 00:29:58,760 --> 00:30:00,280 Speaker 5: one of those spring weeks year. 656 00:30:00,760 --> 00:30:03,920 Speaker 2: I guess they're still doing that. Yeah, still doing Okay? 657 00:30:03,960 --> 00:30:05,720 Speaker 2: What do you got, Nick? What were your thought? Let's 658 00:30:05,760 --> 00:30:09,240 Speaker 2: start with Lamar who did not look very good in 659 00:30:09,280 --> 00:30:11,840 Speaker 2: Week one. The offense was a little sleepy for Baltimore. 660 00:30:11,960 --> 00:30:13,760 Speaker 2: But this was much more like it, wasn't it? 661 00:30:14,280 --> 00:30:14,440 Speaker 1: Yeah? 662 00:30:14,520 --> 00:30:17,040 Speaker 15: He looked better this week. This offense is starting to 663 00:30:17,040 --> 00:30:19,480 Speaker 15: find its footing with him because you know, new offensive coordinator, 664 00:30:19,520 --> 00:30:22,080 Speaker 15: new system and everything else. He had a couple of 665 00:30:22,120 --> 00:30:25,040 Speaker 15: really nice passes downfield. He also had a couple of misses, 666 00:30:25,040 --> 00:30:26,520 Speaker 15: but what I like most about him was that he 667 00:30:26,560 --> 00:30:30,160 Speaker 15: was able to continue to extend drives, especially in key moments, 668 00:30:30,400 --> 00:30:32,680 Speaker 15: and when he lost guys like Odell Beckham who exited 669 00:30:32,720 --> 00:30:35,320 Speaker 15: the game, he went to Devin Duvernet. Well, he tried 670 00:30:35,320 --> 00:30:36,960 Speaker 15: to go to Devin Dubernet, didn't actual complete a pass, 671 00:30:36,960 --> 00:30:38,760 Speaker 15: but he did go to Nelson Agalor a lot. He 672 00:30:38,760 --> 00:30:41,920 Speaker 15: actually ended up leading them in receipt in receptions with five. 673 00:30:42,160 --> 00:30:45,440 Speaker 15: Spread it around. The offense moved well, the run game 674 00:30:45,520 --> 00:30:48,200 Speaker 15: was balanced among their running backs. It just looked like 675 00:30:48,240 --> 00:30:51,680 Speaker 15: an offense that's taking that next step under a new coordinator, 676 00:30:51,680 --> 00:30:54,560 Speaker 15: and it was really nice to see. But conversely, the 677 00:30:54,600 --> 00:30:57,920 Speaker 15: team they were playing, it took them six quarters the 678 00:30:57,920 --> 00:30:59,760 Speaker 15: seventh quarter of the season to finally score touchdowns, so 679 00:30:59,760 --> 00:31:02,120 Speaker 15: they were operating with a bit of an advantage in 680 00:31:02,200 --> 00:31:04,000 Speaker 15: this game. But I was more impressed by the Ravens 681 00:31:04,040 --> 00:31:06,320 Speaker 15: and Lamar Jackson this week certainly than I was last week. 682 00:31:06,400 --> 00:31:09,560 Speaker 4: Yeah, they're zero and two again. The Bengals. We were 683 00:31:09,560 --> 00:31:11,120 Speaker 4: here a year ago, but a year ago they had 684 00:31:11,160 --> 00:31:13,120 Speaker 4: five more points per game at this point, nearly one 685 00:31:13,160 --> 00:31:16,280 Speaker 4: hundred more yards per game, they were far better on 686 00:31:16,360 --> 00:31:19,440 Speaker 4: third down. Joe Burrow is averaging point five to six 687 00:31:19,520 --> 00:31:23,520 Speaker 4: Fantasy points on vertical passes. Like I guess it's just like, Oh, 688 00:31:23,520 --> 00:31:26,520 Speaker 4: they're the Bengals, just like the Bills and the Chiefs. 689 00:31:26,640 --> 00:31:29,080 Speaker 4: They're a little funky right now, but they're gonna get 690 00:31:29,160 --> 00:31:31,680 Speaker 4: right or is there real concern here? Are they even 691 00:31:31,760 --> 00:31:34,120 Speaker 4: like the where would you rank him in the AFC North. 692 00:31:34,800 --> 00:31:38,040 Speaker 15: Oh Man, Well, considering we haven't seen the Steelers in 693 00:31:38,200 --> 00:31:43,200 Speaker 15: Brown's play this week yet, they're third, if not fourth. 694 00:31:43,720 --> 00:31:47,560 Speaker 15: It's the offense just has not gotten out of first gear. 695 00:31:47,840 --> 00:31:50,040 Speaker 15: And you could tell in the second half of this game, 696 00:31:50,120 --> 00:31:51,560 Speaker 15: really the end of the first half and going to 697 00:31:51,600 --> 00:31:54,000 Speaker 15: the second half that Zach Taylor realized, Look, I got 698 00:31:54,000 --> 00:31:56,080 Speaker 15: to like start from the first step, from the ground 699 00:31:56,120 --> 00:31:58,480 Speaker 15: level here. We're rebuilding this entire offense right now because 700 00:31:58,520 --> 00:31:59,800 Speaker 15: we cannot do what we did well in the last 701 00:31:59,800 --> 00:32:01,880 Speaker 15: week years. So we're just gonna dink and dunk. We're 702 00:32:01,880 --> 00:32:04,160 Speaker 15: gonna get Joe Burrow into a rhythm, connect with some 703 00:32:04,200 --> 00:32:06,880 Speaker 15: guys underneath, run some deep digs just beyond the sticks, 704 00:32:07,080 --> 00:32:08,680 Speaker 15: and then maybe we can open it up. They never 705 00:32:08,720 --> 00:32:10,920 Speaker 15: really opened it up because it was never there, and 706 00:32:11,280 --> 00:32:13,400 Speaker 15: they just don't look comfortable as an offense and as 707 00:32:13,400 --> 00:32:15,560 Speaker 15: a whole. I mean, fans are booing them in the 708 00:32:15,600 --> 00:32:18,160 Speaker 15: first half of this game Sunday because at one point 709 00:32:18,200 --> 00:32:21,360 Speaker 15: they had zero first downs, they'd run twelve plays, they 710 00:32:21,400 --> 00:32:23,840 Speaker 15: were I think time of possession was four minutes early 711 00:32:23,840 --> 00:32:27,280 Speaker 15: in the second quarter. Their only offensive touchdown prior to 712 00:32:27,400 --> 00:32:29,480 Speaker 15: the second half was a punt return touch that was 713 00:32:29,520 --> 00:32:31,600 Speaker 15: our first touchdown of year as a punt return. Kearlie 714 00:32:31,640 --> 00:32:34,440 Speaker 15: Jones shut up perdue. So not not a good situation 715 00:32:34,480 --> 00:32:36,400 Speaker 15: for them right now. They did get a little bit better. 716 00:32:36,640 --> 00:32:38,760 Speaker 2: They got better and t Higgins got on the board 717 00:32:38,760 --> 00:32:41,000 Speaker 2: with two touchdowns, so that's a start after getting shout 718 00:32:41,000 --> 00:32:43,320 Speaker 2: out yesterday. But to me, the biggest storyline coming out 719 00:32:43,320 --> 00:32:45,680 Speaker 2: of the game for the Bengals, even beyond the final score, 720 00:32:46,400 --> 00:32:48,960 Speaker 2: is that Burrow limps off the field after their last 721 00:32:48,960 --> 00:32:53,320 Speaker 2: possession with aggravated the same calf injury that took out 722 00:32:53,320 --> 00:32:54,200 Speaker 2: his training camp. 723 00:32:54,600 --> 00:32:56,400 Speaker 1: And now we're in the middle of it. We're we're 724 00:32:56,400 --> 00:32:57,320 Speaker 1: in the middle of the season. 725 00:32:57,320 --> 00:32:59,640 Speaker 2: Now we're they're gonna be entering week three zero and two, 726 00:33:00,240 --> 00:33:02,080 Speaker 2: and Burrow's saying if they would have had a chance 727 00:33:02,120 --> 00:33:03,080 Speaker 2: to get back on the field. 728 00:33:03,200 --> 00:33:04,240 Speaker 1: I would have been out there. 729 00:33:04,680 --> 00:33:07,800 Speaker 2: But this is a really big concern shook and we 730 00:33:07,880 --> 00:33:10,560 Speaker 2: just saw a superstar quarterback below his achilles in week one. 731 00:33:11,120 --> 00:33:13,120 Speaker 2: Like the fact that Burrow is dealing with a calf 732 00:33:13,160 --> 00:33:14,720 Speaker 2: and going to try to play through it, it just 733 00:33:14,760 --> 00:33:15,680 Speaker 2: gets you nervous. 734 00:33:16,040 --> 00:33:18,120 Speaker 15: Yeah, and Rogers had a lot more time to heal 735 00:33:18,120 --> 00:33:20,720 Speaker 15: from that calf injury than Burrow got. So it is 736 00:33:21,120 --> 00:33:24,360 Speaker 15: without a doubt concerning and it's calves are kind of 737 00:33:24,400 --> 00:33:26,240 Speaker 15: I'm not a doctor, but calves are kind of like hamstrings, 738 00:33:26,280 --> 00:33:27,720 Speaker 15: and that they can be nagging and that they can 739 00:33:27,720 --> 00:33:29,440 Speaker 15: be an issue throughout the season. If he's limping in 740 00:33:29,480 --> 00:33:31,560 Speaker 15: week two, I'm not feeling great about that right now. 741 00:33:31,720 --> 00:33:34,200 Speaker 15: And if that's part of what's wrong with this offense, 742 00:33:34,320 --> 00:33:36,160 Speaker 15: then that kind of makes sense because they have too 743 00:33:36,200 --> 00:33:38,400 Speaker 15: much talent to be operating this way. I do, though, 744 00:33:38,600 --> 00:33:41,720 Speaker 15: feel a lot better about where they're headed based on 745 00:33:41,760 --> 00:33:43,440 Speaker 15: what they played, how they played in the second half. 746 00:33:43,480 --> 00:33:46,040 Speaker 15: Then I wasn't halftime today. But if this is injury's 747 00:33:46,040 --> 00:33:48,280 Speaker 15: gonna be a consistent problem, then you have to lower 748 00:33:48,320 --> 00:33:49,760 Speaker 15: your expectations for this team as a whole. 749 00:33:49,800 --> 00:33:51,560 Speaker 4: Why he was in one of those theory guns on 750 00:33:51,640 --> 00:33:53,280 Speaker 4: his calf there on the sideline. 751 00:33:53,440 --> 00:33:55,080 Speaker 15: Yeah, kind of waiting it up there. 752 00:33:55,200 --> 00:33:57,840 Speaker 5: I think his mobility was an issue last week, but 753 00:33:58,040 --> 00:34:01,200 Speaker 5: you know, the rain maybe is part of that. I'll 754 00:34:01,240 --> 00:34:03,600 Speaker 5: be anxious to watch it here because he's a different 755 00:34:03,600 --> 00:34:06,040 Speaker 5: player if he can't move. I mean, he he's a 756 00:34:06,080 --> 00:34:08,560 Speaker 5: guy who wants to get rid of the ball quickly. 757 00:34:08,600 --> 00:34:11,080 Speaker 5: But his superpower is he's so good at that. Plus 758 00:34:11,320 --> 00:34:13,200 Speaker 5: he can extend and make the players when he needs to. 759 00:34:13,200 --> 00:34:15,200 Speaker 5: What fascinating me, And tell me if you can just 760 00:34:15,200 --> 00:34:19,200 Speaker 5: see anything different here, shok is that Lamar got rid 761 00:34:19,200 --> 00:34:21,560 Speaker 5: of the ball in two point six seconds so far, 762 00:34:21,640 --> 00:34:24,200 Speaker 5: a career low through two games where he's getting the 763 00:34:24,239 --> 00:34:28,080 Speaker 5: ball out faster. And I think it's telling that Agilar 764 00:34:28,200 --> 00:34:29,880 Speaker 5: was like their fourth or fifth receiver, and then he 765 00:34:29,920 --> 00:34:32,560 Speaker 5: comes in and is solid enough like in the previous 766 00:34:32,640 --> 00:34:34,120 Speaker 5: years he would have been the first receiver. 767 00:34:34,560 --> 00:34:35,680 Speaker 3: It just from the beginning. 768 00:34:35,719 --> 00:34:37,719 Speaker 5: So they actually have guys that can come in that 769 00:34:37,719 --> 00:34:40,880 Speaker 5: that are okay when they inevitably suffer Odell Beckham or 770 00:34:40,920 --> 00:34:41,920 Speaker 5: their receiver injuries. 771 00:34:42,560 --> 00:34:44,200 Speaker 15: Yeah, that's what I really like about this offense is 772 00:34:44,200 --> 00:34:46,080 Speaker 15: they have surprising depth of receivers so much that when 773 00:34:46,080 --> 00:34:48,319 Speaker 15: DeAndre Hopkins became available in the offseason and people try 774 00:34:48,320 --> 00:34:49,560 Speaker 15: to pair him at the Ravens, I'm like, look at 775 00:34:49,600 --> 00:34:51,280 Speaker 15: their death chart. They've got a lot of guys there already. 776 00:34:51,280 --> 00:34:53,600 Speaker 15: I think it's a little crowded, and that crowded room 777 00:34:53,800 --> 00:34:55,680 Speaker 15: benefited them today. But you know what really worked more 778 00:34:55,680 --> 00:34:58,279 Speaker 15: than anything, Greg, was you talking about quick passes. It 779 00:34:58,320 --> 00:35:01,840 Speaker 15: was everything over the middle. It was just crossers, underneath stuff. 780 00:35:01,920 --> 00:35:03,759 Speaker 15: Just you wun't talk about getting somebody into a rhythm. 781 00:35:03,760 --> 00:35:05,719 Speaker 15: That was Lamar Jackson. He was finding different guys over 782 00:35:05,719 --> 00:35:07,759 Speaker 15: the middle of all game. He took some shots, but 783 00:35:07,800 --> 00:35:09,960 Speaker 15: it wasn't super prevalent. He didn't even have to extend 784 00:35:09,960 --> 00:35:12,680 Speaker 15: the play all that much, except in some key moments 785 00:35:12,719 --> 00:35:14,160 Speaker 15: where he had to scramble away from the rush to 786 00:35:14,200 --> 00:35:16,600 Speaker 15: pick up a first down. So I really like the 787 00:35:16,640 --> 00:35:18,640 Speaker 15: rhythm they got into, and I think that they can 788 00:35:18,719 --> 00:35:21,160 Speaker 15: be a better passing offense than they've been into Lamar 789 00:35:21,200 --> 00:35:23,640 Speaker 15: Jackson arrow. I'm not saying that's a five thousand yard 790 00:35:23,640 --> 00:35:26,640 Speaker 15: season for him, but it offers more potential than we've 791 00:35:26,680 --> 00:35:28,240 Speaker 15: seen from them to this point in his career. 792 00:35:28,640 --> 00:35:30,640 Speaker 2: And let me just throw it out there Odell Beckham, Yes, 793 00:35:30,719 --> 00:35:33,000 Speaker 2: as we mentioned, did go out with an ankle. 794 00:35:33,040 --> 00:35:35,520 Speaker 1: It's not believed to be serious. 795 00:35:35,120 --> 00:35:37,000 Speaker 2: But again, he's a guy that's missed a lot of 796 00:35:37,000 --> 00:35:38,520 Speaker 2: time in the last couple of years and it's something 797 00:35:39,120 --> 00:35:41,520 Speaker 2: to watch. And Burrow said he'd have to see how 798 00:35:41,600 --> 00:35:43,680 Speaker 2: his CAF feels over the next two days before knowing 799 00:35:43,680 --> 00:35:47,719 Speaker 2: whether it will affect his availability. Yikes. That was the 800 00:35:47,760 --> 00:35:51,440 Speaker 2: Sunday Drive presented by Toyota. Let's go places learn more 801 00:35:51,480 --> 00:35:53,800 Speaker 2: at toyota dot com, slash Grand Highlander. 802 00:35:53,880 --> 00:35:55,680 Speaker 1: Let's head to Mile High with shookey. 803 00:35:56,280 --> 00:35:58,560 Speaker 16: Now Washee, you could still win the game right here, 804 00:35:59,200 --> 00:36:02,160 Speaker 16: time o'clock. The Pros have to convert a two point 805 00:36:02,160 --> 00:36:05,200 Speaker 16: conversion to send it to overtime drama. 806 00:36:05,280 --> 00:36:11,719 Speaker 1: Sessler a fifty yard touchdown. Let's go. Maybe it will 807 00:36:11,840 --> 00:36:13,440 Speaker 1: end differently than when I watched the. 808 00:36:13,400 --> 00:36:18,640 Speaker 17: Snack play action steps up, throws towards the towards Cornland Sutton. 809 00:36:18,680 --> 00:36:23,760 Speaker 18: Incomplete the Flags game over Washington. 810 00:36:23,880 --> 00:36:26,800 Speaker 1: Wait thirty three should have been pleased. 811 00:36:28,160 --> 00:36:34,479 Speaker 5: Oh yeah, this was ald one. 812 00:36:35,040 --> 00:36:38,680 Speaker 2: Well, the game itself, it's I trust our producer implicitly, 813 00:36:38,800 --> 00:36:41,240 Speaker 2: but it's it's about the team. 814 00:36:41,400 --> 00:36:43,000 Speaker 1: Did the team have the moment they needed. 815 00:36:43,000 --> 00:36:46,320 Speaker 2: We're about to talk about it, Rad Weinstein, London Fletcher 816 00:36:46,440 --> 00:36:49,920 Speaker 2: Wbig with the call Sessler's not about it. Russell Wilson 817 00:36:49,920 --> 00:36:53,399 Speaker 2: connected on a Hail Mary touchdown to Brandon Johnson's time 818 00:36:53,480 --> 00:36:55,920 Speaker 2: ran out. But that two point conversion type you just 819 00:36:55,960 --> 00:36:59,000 Speaker 2: heard incomplete the crushing end for Denver and a heart 820 00:36:59,040 --> 00:37:02,680 Speaker 2: stopping thirty five thirty three win for the Commanders at 821 00:37:02,800 --> 00:37:07,760 Speaker 2: Mile High shook. I ask you as a fan, okay, 822 00:37:07,800 --> 00:37:11,120 Speaker 2: and I know you're gonna be oh brownsed out tomorrow 823 00:37:11,200 --> 00:37:11,759 Speaker 2: Monday night. 824 00:37:12,160 --> 00:37:14,120 Speaker 1: I'm so bitter becaus my Monday night. What is wrong 825 00:37:14,160 --> 00:37:14,360 Speaker 1: with you? 826 00:37:15,000 --> 00:37:18,560 Speaker 2: Put yourself in the shoes of Broncos Nation. Would you 827 00:37:18,680 --> 00:37:21,719 Speaker 2: rather convert that Hill Mary and then miss the two 828 00:37:21,719 --> 00:37:26,080 Speaker 2: pointer with a missed DPI to boot brutal or never 829 00:37:26,120 --> 00:37:28,080 Speaker 2: see it get to that moment at all? 830 00:37:28,280 --> 00:37:29,960 Speaker 1: As a fan? What would you rather have there? 831 00:37:30,520 --> 00:37:32,080 Speaker 15: Never see it get to that name? And I can 832 00:37:32,120 --> 00:37:33,200 Speaker 15: totally with you, of course. 833 00:37:33,360 --> 00:37:33,600 Speaker 3: Yeah. 834 00:37:33,960 --> 00:37:36,520 Speaker 15: The first example, since you you know you're gonna paint 835 00:37:36,520 --> 00:37:38,800 Speaker 15: me to that Browns corner. I was at Browns Ravens 836 00:37:38,880 --> 00:37:42,080 Speaker 15: twenty fifteen Monday Night football when they had their game 837 00:37:42,080 --> 00:37:44,480 Speaker 15: winning field goal attempt returned for a touchdown. 838 00:37:44,800 --> 00:37:46,080 Speaker 1: Ouchers, I remember that one. 839 00:37:46,080 --> 00:37:46,600 Speaker 15: I've been there. 840 00:37:46,719 --> 00:37:51,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, toughy, tough sitch your thoughts on this game. So yeah, 841 00:37:51,600 --> 00:37:54,920 Speaker 2: the the the Broncos getting it to that point was 842 00:37:54,920 --> 00:37:57,359 Speaker 2: a miracle because this is a game after a quick 843 00:37:57,400 --> 00:38:00,200 Speaker 2: start for Denver, Washington had total control of before or 844 00:38:00,239 --> 00:38:03,719 Speaker 2: when Mayhem trying to like break down like this game 845 00:38:03,760 --> 00:38:05,160 Speaker 2: because it was kind of all over the place. 846 00:38:06,600 --> 00:38:09,759 Speaker 15: Okay, So Russell Wilson and Sean Payton discovered that they 847 00:38:09,800 --> 00:38:12,719 Speaker 15: could hit the deep ball, and Marvin Mims was their 848 00:38:12,760 --> 00:38:15,320 Speaker 15: guy in this game. Sixty yard touchdown pass, just a majestic, 849 00:38:15,320 --> 00:38:18,720 Speaker 15: beautiful throw, and I'm like, Russell Wilson's unlocked. They can't 850 00:38:18,760 --> 00:38:21,799 Speaker 15: go deep. Everything's great. They fell in love with that 851 00:38:21,840 --> 00:38:23,759 Speaker 15: deep ball. They were up twenty one to three, and 852 00:38:23,800 --> 00:38:27,360 Speaker 15: it felt like Russell got a taste of just what 853 00:38:27,480 --> 00:38:30,439 Speaker 15: is so delicious in scoring big play touchdowns and being 854 00:38:30,480 --> 00:38:33,160 Speaker 15: the star and forgot how to operate the offense in 855 00:38:33,200 --> 00:38:36,680 Speaker 15: the intermedia in short levels because also this processing slowed down. 856 00:38:36,680 --> 00:38:39,839 Speaker 15: He didn't look like the market. This is not the 857 00:38:39,880 --> 00:38:42,040 Speaker 15: defense that you necessarily want to try and take a 858 00:38:42,080 --> 00:38:44,120 Speaker 15: million shots on because their front is so good, Like 859 00:38:44,160 --> 00:38:46,640 Speaker 15: you have to give Washington a ton of credit two 860 00:38:46,640 --> 00:38:48,160 Speaker 15: games in a row where they've done a great job 861 00:38:48,239 --> 00:38:50,840 Speaker 15: up front, But I mean Russell Wilson was a different 862 00:38:50,880 --> 00:38:53,200 Speaker 15: quarterback from half one to half two, and really quarter one, 863 00:38:53,320 --> 00:38:56,399 Speaker 15: early quarter two into half two. They blew it, straight 864 00:38:56,480 --> 00:38:59,200 Speaker 15: up blew this opportunity in my opinion, because of the 865 00:38:59,200 --> 00:39:01,960 Speaker 15: way their offense just ground to a halt in the 866 00:39:02,040 --> 00:39:04,720 Speaker 15: second half, and then they struggle in the red zone 867 00:39:04,840 --> 00:39:06,759 Speaker 15: prior to that final possession which they hit that hail 868 00:39:06,760 --> 00:39:08,840 Speaker 15: Mary and had to settle for three. I'm seeing shades 869 00:39:08,840 --> 00:39:11,640 Speaker 15: and Nathaniel Hackett. And then finally on the two point conversion, 870 00:39:11,760 --> 00:39:13,760 Speaker 15: you know what Russell Wilson did. He misses a crossing 871 00:39:13,840 --> 00:39:15,480 Speaker 15: Jerry Judy open on the left side of the field, 872 00:39:15,520 --> 00:39:17,920 Speaker 15: just like he missed a crossing kJ Handler in that 873 00:39:17,960 --> 00:39:19,799 Speaker 15: game against the Colts in prime. 874 00:39:19,680 --> 00:39:22,759 Speaker 2: Nathaniel Hackett, thanks, nice to see you out here. 875 00:39:23,840 --> 00:39:25,720 Speaker 15: I not nice to see this offense. 876 00:39:25,800 --> 00:39:28,080 Speaker 5: I'm defending the honor of the bongos here. If you 877 00:39:28,120 --> 00:39:30,680 Speaker 5: give a game where one team is up twenty one 878 00:39:30,719 --> 00:39:35,680 Speaker 5: to three, where Russell Wilson has multiple bombs, including one 879 00:39:35,680 --> 00:39:38,719 Speaker 5: of the wildest hail mary's we've ever seen, I mean 880 00:39:38,719 --> 00:39:41,919 Speaker 5: that thing was a rain maker, got batted up by 881 00:39:42,040 --> 00:39:45,640 Speaker 5: like three or four different players, then goes in uh 882 00:39:45,719 --> 00:39:47,959 Speaker 5: and then you lose on the two point conversion after 883 00:39:48,040 --> 00:39:50,160 Speaker 5: you made an eleven point come back in the last 884 00:39:50,320 --> 00:39:53,280 Speaker 5: five minutes and Sean Payton's zero and two at home 885 00:39:53,480 --> 00:39:56,520 Speaker 5: and in Denver. That feels bongo worthy. That's just like bonkers. 886 00:39:56,560 --> 00:39:58,640 Speaker 5: That's what bongos are all about. Ever, I would never 887 00:39:58,680 --> 00:40:01,040 Speaker 5: doubt that emailed them. 888 00:40:01,160 --> 00:40:03,799 Speaker 4: I'm not openly doubted them. I could just I know 889 00:40:03,840 --> 00:40:06,919 Speaker 4: what kind of games I like where the bongos come out. 890 00:40:06,920 --> 00:40:09,919 Speaker 15: In my opinion, I have an argument against this. Most 891 00:40:09,920 --> 00:40:13,000 Speaker 15: of those comebacks that you just described are explosive. There 892 00:40:13,040 --> 00:40:15,600 Speaker 15: are tons of fireworks. It's thrilling. This moved at a 893 00:40:15,600 --> 00:40:19,000 Speaker 15: glacial pace. It was dreadful the last six minutes. The 894 00:40:19,080 --> 00:40:22,120 Speaker 15: anxiety was just building, the dread that the Broncos fans 895 00:40:22,120 --> 00:40:24,080 Speaker 15: were gonna have to go home and process the fact 896 00:40:24,120 --> 00:40:25,920 Speaker 15: that they watched their team blow in eighteen point lead. 897 00:40:26,000 --> 00:40:27,439 Speaker 15: It was there, it was I could feel it through 898 00:40:27,440 --> 00:40:29,759 Speaker 15: the TV. And then all of a sudden hail Mary 899 00:40:29,760 --> 00:40:31,880 Speaker 15: where everybody's like, let's just leave, let's just get this 900 00:40:31,920 --> 00:40:33,439 Speaker 15: over with. Oh my god, he caught it, well, they're 901 00:40:33,440 --> 00:40:35,000 Speaker 15: probably not going to get the two. And then they 902 00:40:35,000 --> 00:40:35,799 Speaker 15: didn't get the two. 903 00:40:36,480 --> 00:40:38,520 Speaker 4: And the look on Sean Payton's face set a lot 904 00:40:38,560 --> 00:40:40,279 Speaker 4: to me throughout the second half of this game. It 905 00:40:40,360 --> 00:40:43,000 Speaker 4: just like it was like how many lemons can you ingest? 906 00:40:43,560 --> 00:40:47,319 Speaker 4: I would say though, flip side like Washington because the 907 00:40:47,400 --> 00:40:50,560 Speaker 4: career of Eric Beeenemy in Kansas City, it's like whatever 908 00:40:50,600 --> 00:40:52,319 Speaker 4: they achieved, it's like, well, it wasn't really you, it's 909 00:40:52,360 --> 00:40:55,640 Speaker 4: Andy Reid. Like this Washington offense with a quarterback that 910 00:40:55,719 --> 00:40:58,360 Speaker 4: was completely untested coming into the season. This was a 911 00:40:58,360 --> 00:41:00,480 Speaker 4: pretty great performance by Eric enemy. 912 00:41:01,360 --> 00:41:03,680 Speaker 15: Yeah, very solid balance between the run and the past. 913 00:41:03,760 --> 00:41:06,319 Speaker 15: Brian Robinson had a very great day. And you know what, guys, 914 00:41:06,360 --> 00:41:09,440 Speaker 15: I owe Sam Allen Ron Rivera an apology because as 915 00:41:09,480 --> 00:41:11,520 Speaker 15: you guys probably remember, maybe not, you do a lot 916 00:41:11,560 --> 00:41:13,800 Speaker 15: of shows. You probably know we don't. We once to 917 00:41:13,800 --> 00:41:15,719 Speaker 15: did a segment what has you shook? And I was 918 00:41:15,760 --> 00:41:17,080 Speaker 15: shook about the fact that he was gonna roll with 919 00:41:17,120 --> 00:41:19,080 Speaker 15: Sam Howe. I see why, now I see it. I 920 00:41:19,120 --> 00:41:22,760 Speaker 15: am sold. I love the way this kid battles. He's 921 00:41:22,800 --> 00:41:27,279 Speaker 15: a gamer, he's decisive, he's got Yeah, so there's the 922 00:41:27,320 --> 00:41:30,239 Speaker 15: bongo juice right there. If that's a thing, that. 923 00:41:30,320 --> 00:41:32,759 Speaker 1: Was disgusting, but it's a thing now you've said it, 924 00:41:32,800 --> 00:41:33,640 Speaker 1: so now it's out there. 925 00:41:34,520 --> 00:41:36,520 Speaker 3: Russ was holding on to the ball for a while. 926 00:41:36,560 --> 00:41:37,719 Speaker 5: And I hate to put this too much on the 927 00:41:38,120 --> 00:41:40,800 Speaker 5: offense because the Broncos defense has really been a problem 928 00:41:40,800 --> 00:41:43,080 Speaker 5: in both of these games. I know the score wasn't 929 00:41:43,160 --> 00:41:45,759 Speaker 5: high last week, but per drive, the Raiders put it 930 00:41:45,800 --> 00:41:47,960 Speaker 5: to them and they were the problem here. But Russ 931 00:41:48,280 --> 00:41:53,400 Speaker 5: did get hit fourteen times, seven sacks, four times that 932 00:41:53,480 --> 00:41:55,520 Speaker 5: the Commanders got their hands on the ball. In terms 933 00:41:55,560 --> 00:41:59,680 Speaker 5: of past defense passes deflected rather and so that's too much. 934 00:42:00,000 --> 00:42:01,600 Speaker 5: You know a lot of teams. We got Young and 935 00:42:01,600 --> 00:42:04,439 Speaker 5: Sweaty back. It's back Dan Chase Young is a thing. 936 00:42:04,480 --> 00:42:05,920 Speaker 5: Montes sweat is definitely a thing. 937 00:42:05,960 --> 00:42:06,839 Speaker 1: They converged. 938 00:42:06,920 --> 00:42:10,320 Speaker 2: There's a great moment and Washington fans have been waiting 939 00:42:10,360 --> 00:42:11,840 Speaker 2: for this and we're expecting a lot more of it. 940 00:42:11,920 --> 00:42:14,239 Speaker 2: Quite frankly, in the last couple of years where on 941 00:42:14,280 --> 00:42:18,640 Speaker 2: that penultimate drive for Denver flamed out and ended with 942 00:42:18,680 --> 00:42:22,520 Speaker 2: a field goal. Young and Sweaty meet at Russell Wilson 943 00:42:22,719 --> 00:42:25,960 Speaker 2: and there was a great shot by Fox of Young 944 00:42:26,000 --> 00:42:28,600 Speaker 2: and sweaty like screaming at each other in excitement after 945 00:42:28,640 --> 00:42:30,960 Speaker 2: the sack. As you see Russell Wilson in the background 946 00:42:31,080 --> 00:42:33,759 Speaker 2: kind of pill himself off the turf and walk away. 947 00:42:33,760 --> 00:42:36,520 Speaker 2: And it's like, that's what the Washington commanders need for 948 00:42:36,560 --> 00:42:39,920 Speaker 2: this defense to be special. Those two guys in concert. 949 00:42:40,560 --> 00:42:42,759 Speaker 2: Now here's the ultimate test mark. And I said, I 950 00:42:42,800 --> 00:42:44,640 Speaker 2: set it up this way shook. As we say goodbye, 951 00:42:46,080 --> 00:42:50,040 Speaker 2: Broncos fans, I'm going to play you the Denver radio 952 00:42:50,200 --> 00:42:53,440 Speaker 2: call of the Hail Mary from Dave Logan and Rick 953 00:42:53,520 --> 00:42:56,640 Speaker 2: Lewis KOA. If you don't want to hear it, because 954 00:42:56,680 --> 00:42:59,799 Speaker 2: you wish in reality it never happened, you're gonna need 955 00:42:59,800 --> 00:43:04,479 Speaker 2: to fast forward. What about thirty to forty five seconds? Eric, Yes, 956 00:43:04,680 --> 00:43:07,520 Speaker 2: hit the fast forward button three times to be safe 957 00:43:07,880 --> 00:43:09,720 Speaker 2: if you don't want to hear this, because I understand 958 00:43:09,719 --> 00:43:10,480 Speaker 2: it can be triggering. 959 00:43:11,200 --> 00:43:12,440 Speaker 1: Here it comes three. 960 00:43:12,320 --> 00:43:17,440 Speaker 19: Seconds to go from the fifty down eight trying to 961 00:43:17,440 --> 00:43:18,280 Speaker 19: get a free snap. 962 00:43:18,520 --> 00:43:20,359 Speaker 1: Commanders don't jump off, they rush four. 963 00:43:20,760 --> 00:43:30,200 Speaker 19: Rust on the pocket now bounces around. 964 00:43:27,239 --> 00:43:34,680 Speaker 2: The ball, deflected, touched defer friend to Johnson, Oh. 965 00:43:34,719 --> 00:43:47,920 Speaker 13: My lord, good googa moga. 966 00:43:49,600 --> 00:43:52,439 Speaker 15: Was worth deflected it ap. 967 00:43:52,360 --> 00:43:56,280 Speaker 5: To three and it was a great catch by Johnson 968 00:43:57,239 --> 00:43:59,600 Speaker 5: to himself, to himself. 969 00:43:59,160 --> 00:44:02,640 Speaker 3: Wow, that's a shame. It's a shame. You gotta you 970 00:44:02,680 --> 00:44:03,680 Speaker 3: lose a game with that. 971 00:44:03,920 --> 00:44:06,600 Speaker 1: Good Google Muga. Indeed, Chooky, thank you, buddy. 972 00:44:07,640 --> 00:44:09,760 Speaker 15: I'm getting that printed on my wall in my house. 973 00:44:12,000 --> 00:44:15,280 Speaker 2: Playa bongo juice, Google Muga. 974 00:44:15,560 --> 00:44:16,200 Speaker 1: What a sag? 975 00:44:16,239 --> 00:44:19,960 Speaker 2: All right, Choky, till next week. Let's keep on moving 976 00:44:20,200 --> 00:44:21,320 Speaker 2: on to Nashville. 977 00:44:21,680 --> 00:44:27,360 Speaker 20: The AAF got him back into the NFL, and now he's. 978 00:44:27,200 --> 00:44:30,560 Speaker 14: Going for his thirteenth time game winning kick. 979 00:44:30,640 --> 00:44:35,239 Speaker 3: It was the XFL right way lost this job. 980 00:44:35,440 --> 00:44:39,719 Speaker 1: He talks to Snake House to hold and a kick. 981 00:44:41,239 --> 00:44:49,480 Speaker 6: Yes, Ma, yes, yes, yes, a redemption of Ryan Tannehill. 982 00:44:50,880 --> 00:44:56,600 Speaker 1: On a Sunday. It started Sonny ended with rain I 983 00:44:56,800 --> 00:44:59,399 Speaker 1: love it. I gotta know Mark what he's upset about. 984 00:45:00,239 --> 00:45:03,360 Speaker 4: It is a huge moment for a Titans team that 985 00:45:03,400 --> 00:45:03,759 Speaker 4: looked dead. 986 00:45:03,880 --> 00:45:05,840 Speaker 5: We can oh, there was a fifteen I saw it, 987 00:45:05,840 --> 00:45:07,960 Speaker 5: so he was seventeen seconds away from kicking it. 988 00:45:08,040 --> 00:45:12,440 Speaker 4: So we're having a casual XFL career history chat in 989 00:45:12,480 --> 00:45:13,359 Speaker 4: the middle of the game call. 990 00:45:13,440 --> 00:45:15,319 Speaker 3: But he hadn't end and kicked it yet. We were 991 00:45:15,360 --> 00:45:17,399 Speaker 3: waiting for the kick, so I cut it a little short. 992 00:45:17,440 --> 00:45:19,759 Speaker 18: He actually brings up that he was selling real estate 993 00:45:19,840 --> 00:45:21,920 Speaker 18: last year too before that, So there you go. 994 00:45:22,680 --> 00:45:24,600 Speaker 1: Don't tell Mark that you've got to be even more mad. 995 00:45:25,600 --> 00:45:28,560 Speaker 4: It's not a personal issue with the person you're discussing. 996 00:45:28,600 --> 00:45:30,799 Speaker 4: It's just like, you know, the showmanship nature of like 997 00:45:30,880 --> 00:45:32,040 Speaker 4: talking over the game call. 998 00:45:33,239 --> 00:45:37,719 Speaker 2: Sorry Dad, Mike Keith with the call wgf X. Would 999 00:45:37,760 --> 00:45:39,640 Speaker 2: this have anything to do with the lock of this game? 1000 00:45:39,719 --> 00:45:39,959 Speaker 1: Mark? 1001 00:45:40,000 --> 00:45:41,799 Speaker 4: Perhaps I have something to say about that. 1002 00:45:41,800 --> 00:45:43,680 Speaker 2: Nick Foll kicked the forty one yard field all and 1003 00:45:43,719 --> 00:45:47,160 Speaker 2: overtime in a downpour that broke out at at the 1004 00:45:47,239 --> 00:45:47,840 Speaker 2: wrong time. 1005 00:45:47,960 --> 00:45:50,319 Speaker 1: Titans fans like mott owen, what are we doing over here? God? 1006 00:45:50,640 --> 00:45:54,160 Speaker 2: And the Titans beat the Chargers twenty seven to twenty four, Markie, 1007 00:45:54,680 --> 00:45:56,960 Speaker 2: The Titans got a three and out to start overtime, 1008 00:45:57,040 --> 00:46:01,840 Speaker 2: then drove for the game winner. Was very nice, especially 1009 00:46:01,920 --> 00:46:04,879 Speaker 2: after a week one's brutal disappointment. And yes, Tannehill having 1010 00:46:04,880 --> 00:46:06,560 Speaker 2: a big bounce back is a part of that. 1011 00:46:07,640 --> 00:46:10,919 Speaker 4: It is you know you mentioned Dan and I didn't 1012 00:46:10,960 --> 00:46:15,719 Speaker 4: really agree with your Herbert comments in terms of like 1013 00:46:15,960 --> 00:46:17,880 Speaker 4: who he is and who I think he is, but 1014 00:46:17,960 --> 00:46:19,759 Speaker 4: you are right about the fact that we're kind of 1015 00:46:19,800 --> 00:46:25,640 Speaker 4: missing large justin Herbert moments. This We're not that deep 1016 00:46:25,640 --> 00:46:27,759 Speaker 4: into his career, but like it's hard to find them, 1017 00:46:27,800 --> 00:46:29,239 Speaker 4: and you have to point to like, oh, maybe it's 1018 00:46:29,280 --> 00:46:31,200 Speaker 4: a Peyton Manning thing where these playoff wins and all 1019 00:46:31,200 --> 00:46:33,880 Speaker 4: this other stuff's canna happen. Like when they went to overtime, 1020 00:46:34,520 --> 00:46:38,520 Speaker 4: this was he can He directed a field goal drive 1021 00:46:38,520 --> 00:46:40,280 Speaker 4: at the end that tied it and put it in overtime. 1022 00:46:40,440 --> 00:46:43,080 Speaker 4: They get the ball first, and it's like a great, 1023 00:46:43,120 --> 00:46:45,880 Speaker 4: a great chance to erase what happened a week ago 1024 00:46:46,200 --> 00:46:49,600 Speaker 4: where where the pass rush against the Dolphins snuffed him 1025 00:46:49,600 --> 00:46:51,480 Speaker 4: out and it wasn't all Herbert's fault, but the whole 1026 00:46:51,480 --> 00:46:54,920 Speaker 4: thing fell apart. It's like, how about the whole entire team? Chargers, 1027 00:46:55,000 --> 00:46:57,400 Speaker 4: Like this is a team that's a good Titans defense, 1028 00:46:57,440 --> 00:46:59,600 Speaker 4: but you have no business going on too with the 1029 00:46:59,680 --> 00:47:02,439 Speaker 4: roster you have. You're in overtime, you get the ball, 1030 00:47:02,560 --> 00:47:07,279 Speaker 4: You're justin Herbert. Three straight in completions. They looked totally lost, 1031 00:47:07,320 --> 00:47:09,640 Speaker 4: and they made some big plays on offense in this game. 1032 00:47:09,880 --> 00:47:12,040 Speaker 4: But it's like, then you hand the ball over to 1033 00:47:12,160 --> 00:47:15,239 Speaker 4: Ryan Tannehill, who a week ago looked like maybe the 1034 00:47:15,320 --> 00:47:19,920 Speaker 4: career was over, and Tannehill flamed this Brandon Staley defense 1035 00:47:19,960 --> 00:47:22,920 Speaker 4: for a number of big passes today and looked different 1036 00:47:22,920 --> 00:47:24,799 Speaker 4: than a week ago. He's like twenty for twenty four 1037 00:47:25,080 --> 00:47:29,040 Speaker 4: efficient playing behind a bad offensive line, You're not getting 1038 00:47:29,040 --> 00:47:31,320 Speaker 4: the same exact performance from Derreck Henry in the past. 1039 00:47:31,440 --> 00:47:34,440 Speaker 4: But Ryan Tannehill in overtime makes enough plays to go 1040 00:47:34,560 --> 00:47:37,960 Speaker 4: down and you're right that rain started to come thundering down. 1041 00:47:38,000 --> 00:47:40,120 Speaker 4: It was like kick this thing as quick as you can, 1042 00:47:40,520 --> 00:47:42,839 Speaker 4: or wait until it ends, because it's like the rain 1043 00:47:42,920 --> 00:47:44,680 Speaker 4: was going to impact this kick. But they go get 1044 00:47:44,719 --> 00:47:47,680 Speaker 4: it done. And it's like who would have put their 1045 00:47:47,719 --> 00:47:51,200 Speaker 4: money on the concept that it would be Ryan Tannehill, 1046 00:47:51,480 --> 00:47:53,600 Speaker 4: not justin Herbert, to get it done in overtime. And 1047 00:47:53,640 --> 00:47:56,040 Speaker 4: so as I was driving to work today, I was 1048 00:47:56,080 --> 00:47:58,520 Speaker 4: listening to this like preview show on the radio, and 1049 00:47:58,520 --> 00:48:00,880 Speaker 4: this one guy's like he was a from Vegas, one 1050 00:48:00,880 --> 00:48:01,879 Speaker 4: of these people, and he's like. 1051 00:48:01,840 --> 00:48:03,800 Speaker 5: I love that you you always love like the deep 1052 00:48:03,960 --> 00:48:07,719 Speaker 5: on the AM dial. Oh yeah, Vegas shows where they 1053 00:48:07,719 --> 00:48:10,080 Speaker 5: get If I got one for you now, I'll give 1054 00:48:10,120 --> 00:48:11,120 Speaker 5: you this one for free. 1055 00:48:11,719 --> 00:48:14,040 Speaker 3: But if you want my super duper lock. 1056 00:48:13,880 --> 00:48:15,319 Speaker 4: Of the week, you gotta call this, but you know 1057 00:48:15,360 --> 00:48:17,120 Speaker 4: what he said, he's the he and it kind of 1058 00:48:17,160 --> 00:48:18,719 Speaker 4: it kind of like it got in my head and 1059 00:48:18,719 --> 00:48:20,160 Speaker 4: then I got to work and you're trying to like 1060 00:48:20,239 --> 00:48:23,040 Speaker 4: forgot about it. He's like, I would never in my 1061 00:48:23,120 --> 00:48:26,799 Speaker 4: life touch the Chargers on any type of anything. And 1062 00:48:26,840 --> 00:48:29,320 Speaker 4: I was like, wait a minute, I just locked this team, 1063 00:48:29,440 --> 00:48:30,759 Speaker 4: and it's like, of course they're going to go into 1064 00:48:30,760 --> 00:48:33,000 Speaker 4: Tennessee and win, Like how can they? How can this 1065 00:48:33,040 --> 00:48:33,600 Speaker 4: team come out? 1066 00:48:33,600 --> 00:48:33,680 Speaker 15: Oh? 1067 00:48:33,760 --> 00:48:35,600 Speaker 4: And two I came out of this game being like, 1068 00:48:35,640 --> 00:48:38,120 Speaker 4: I will literally, for as long as I do this show, 1069 00:48:38,239 --> 00:48:41,840 Speaker 4: never touch the Los Angeles Chargers in a lock ever again, 1070 00:48:43,400 --> 00:48:44,560 Speaker 4: Well what a disaster. 1071 00:48:44,840 --> 00:48:47,120 Speaker 2: Let me let me just say this because I think 1072 00:48:47,160 --> 00:48:52,239 Speaker 2: it did get Perhaps we gotta remember someone remember this. 1073 00:48:55,280 --> 00:48:58,000 Speaker 2: It gets easily misconstrued when the three of us are 1074 00:48:58,080 --> 00:49:03,560 Speaker 2: just you know, babbling on and having honk attacks. But 1075 00:49:03,920 --> 00:49:06,080 Speaker 2: on Thursday show, I was not saying I don't believe 1076 00:49:06,080 --> 00:49:07,920 Speaker 2: in Justin Herbert or that he's not a great quarterback. 1077 00:49:08,120 --> 00:49:10,840 Speaker 2: I was simply saying that sometimes I need Justin Herbert 1078 00:49:10,880 --> 00:49:14,880 Speaker 2: to like, you know, just turn into Superman that we 1079 00:49:14,920 --> 00:49:15,839 Speaker 2: talk about him as. 1080 00:49:16,560 --> 00:49:18,600 Speaker 1: And it just so happens the way it worked out. 1081 00:49:18,680 --> 00:49:19,360 Speaker 1: Is this game? 1082 00:49:19,520 --> 00:49:22,600 Speaker 2: It perfectly was set up where they're down three points 1083 00:49:22,680 --> 00:49:25,120 Speaker 2: late in this game. And yes, like, obviously you give 1084 00:49:25,440 --> 00:49:28,280 Speaker 2: Herbert credit for marching a team into field goal range 1085 00:49:28,560 --> 00:49:31,480 Speaker 2: and getting that game to overtime, but I do have 1086 00:49:31,600 --> 00:49:34,000 Speaker 2: to I'm gonna pick some knits here and say it's 1087 00:49:34,040 --> 00:49:37,279 Speaker 2: first and ten at the Tennessee fourteen yard line in 1088 00:49:37,880 --> 00:49:40,239 Speaker 2: at the end of the fourth quarter, like, finish that 1089 00:49:40,360 --> 00:49:43,480 Speaker 2: drive off. Absolutely win the damn game. And then you 1090 00:49:43,520 --> 00:49:46,600 Speaker 2: win the coin toss, and again Herbert like, your team 1091 00:49:46,640 --> 00:49:49,000 Speaker 2: needs this. That was a bad, bad week one. And 1092 00:49:49,000 --> 00:49:51,400 Speaker 2: it's not just the quarterback. It's it's the blocking scheme. 1093 00:49:51,440 --> 00:49:54,960 Speaker 2: The receivers have to make the right reads and make plays. 1094 00:49:54,960 --> 00:49:57,000 Speaker 2: Three plays zero yards punted away and you lose. And 1095 00:49:57,040 --> 00:49:59,680 Speaker 2: it's just like, I know, Chargers ends might get mad 1096 00:49:59,760 --> 00:50:01,680 Speaker 2: at those any Herbert takes that they are like, well, 1097 00:50:01,680 --> 00:50:03,400 Speaker 2: maybe he's not as good as all the people say. 1098 00:50:03,680 --> 00:50:05,399 Speaker 2: But then a game like this happens and you look 1099 00:50:05,400 --> 00:50:08,200 Speaker 2: at the box score and you look at the actual 1100 00:50:08,320 --> 00:50:09,960 Speaker 2: the way the game played out, and it's like you 1101 00:50:10,040 --> 00:50:12,560 Speaker 2: just want a little bit more. And that separates the 1102 00:50:12,719 --> 00:50:16,000 Speaker 2: five hundred teams from the true contenders and right now 1103 00:50:16,040 --> 00:50:17,359 Speaker 2: the Chargers are a winless team. 1104 00:50:18,040 --> 00:50:20,839 Speaker 5: I think it's just somewhat reductive because I think he's 1105 00:50:20,840 --> 00:50:22,799 Speaker 5: had those moments. He's among the league leaders, and fourth 1106 00:50:22,880 --> 00:50:25,200 Speaker 5: quarter comebacks, game with you know, game winning drives since 1107 00:50:25,200 --> 00:50:27,120 Speaker 5: he's come into the league. We can think of ones 1108 00:50:27,239 --> 00:50:29,080 Speaker 5: where he did it, and then you can always do 1109 00:50:29,200 --> 00:50:31,960 Speaker 5: that like today's perfect you have Derek. 1110 00:50:31,800 --> 00:50:34,160 Speaker 4: Carr led that stat for a long right right. 1111 00:50:34,000 --> 00:50:37,560 Speaker 5: My point though, is that his his coach, is in 1112 00:50:37,600 --> 00:50:41,399 Speaker 5: the crosshairs more than anything, more than their offense, more 1113 00:50:41,760 --> 00:50:45,840 Speaker 5: in there in certainly their defense, and and just seems 1114 00:50:45,880 --> 00:50:47,960 Speaker 5: like who is Brandon Staley? Like there's a point in 1115 00:50:47,960 --> 00:50:51,319 Speaker 5: the first half where he punts on fourth and one 1116 00:50:52,000 --> 00:50:54,520 Speaker 5: in Titan's territory. I know the end it ended up 1117 00:50:54,560 --> 00:50:57,080 Speaker 5: working out well. They had a coffin you know, kicked 1118 00:50:57,080 --> 00:50:59,360 Speaker 5: them quarter kicked them whatever, and he ended up getting 1119 00:50:59,360 --> 00:51:00,000 Speaker 5: the ball back in score. 1120 00:51:00,400 --> 00:51:01,960 Speaker 3: It worked out well. But it's also just like who 1121 00:51:02,000 --> 00:51:02,800 Speaker 3: is Brandon Staley? 1122 00:51:02,880 --> 00:51:05,080 Speaker 2: Here is Brandon Staley who was not happy when a 1123 00:51:05,160 --> 00:51:09,160 Speaker 2: reporter referenced how their season ended last year. Of course 1124 00:51:09,160 --> 00:51:11,480 Speaker 2: the twenty seven to nothing playoff meltdown. 1125 00:51:11,880 --> 00:51:12,880 Speaker 1: Oo, hear is Staley? 1126 00:51:13,120 --> 00:51:15,360 Speaker 9: A lot of people who sort of wonder whether that 1127 00:51:15,480 --> 00:51:16,479 Speaker 9: Jacksonville lost food. 1128 00:51:17,200 --> 00:51:19,800 Speaker 21: I'm not worried about the jacksonvillete That Jacksonville loss hasn't 1129 00:51:19,840 --> 00:51:22,360 Speaker 21: carried on to the season whatsoever. If you've seen our 1130 00:51:22,400 --> 00:51:24,279 Speaker 21: training camp or you've seen the way we've played in 1131 00:51:24,320 --> 00:51:26,279 Speaker 21: the first two games, it hasn't had an impact on 1132 00:51:26,320 --> 00:51:28,799 Speaker 21: our team whatsoever. Our team is connected. Our team has 1133 00:51:28,800 --> 00:51:30,480 Speaker 21: played its hard out in two games, and we've lost 1134 00:51:30,480 --> 00:51:33,400 Speaker 21: two tough games, but has nothing to do with the 1135 00:51:33,440 --> 00:51:35,799 Speaker 21: Jacksonville game. And if you ask anyone in our locker room, 1136 00:51:35,920 --> 00:51:37,920 Speaker 21: it has nothing to do with the Jacksonville game. And 1137 00:51:37,960 --> 00:51:40,640 Speaker 21: that's just the truth. It's a convenience storyline for you 1138 00:51:41,120 --> 00:51:43,919 Speaker 21: and for everybody else, but it's not the truth. We've 1139 00:51:43,920 --> 00:51:46,359 Speaker 21: lost two tough games. But the guys in that locker room, 1140 00:51:46,400 --> 00:51:48,680 Speaker 21: the men in that locker room, they are finishers and 1141 00:51:48,680 --> 00:51:51,040 Speaker 21: they have what it takes, and we're excited to prove ourselves. 1142 00:51:51,320 --> 00:51:53,759 Speaker 2: Staley shown a little personality and fight, so I do 1143 00:51:53,800 --> 00:51:54,600 Speaker 2: want to hear more from him. 1144 00:51:54,680 --> 00:51:56,640 Speaker 21: Yeah, we just lost a game in overtime, Jeff. So 1145 00:51:56,640 --> 00:51:58,800 Speaker 21: how do you think the mood is. How do you 1146 00:51:58,800 --> 00:52:01,719 Speaker 21: think the mood is, How do you think it is 1147 00:52:01,760 --> 00:52:03,600 Speaker 21: it's tough, it's tough. It's a tough, it's tough group 1148 00:52:03,600 --> 00:52:05,400 Speaker 21: in there. There's a lot of pride in that room, Okay, 1149 00:52:05,440 --> 00:52:06,680 Speaker 21: and we put a lot into this and we got 1150 00:52:06,719 --> 00:52:09,080 Speaker 21: a good football team. And so we've lost two tough games. 1151 00:52:09,320 --> 00:52:11,120 Speaker 21: We got to bounce back, learn from our mistakes, and 1152 00:52:11,160 --> 00:52:12,320 Speaker 21: be ready for Minnesota. 1153 00:52:13,480 --> 00:52:16,040 Speaker 5: First of all, it's a clown question, Like it's such 1154 00:52:16,080 --> 00:52:18,480 Speaker 5: a weak question that I don't mind him getting mad, 1155 00:52:18,760 --> 00:52:21,160 Speaker 5: not because bringing it up, No, No, because he said 1156 00:52:21,239 --> 00:52:23,680 Speaker 5: a lot of people are saying and that's a I 1157 00:52:23,680 --> 00:52:24,160 Speaker 5: don't like that. 1158 00:52:24,239 --> 00:52:24,960 Speaker 1: It's a move. 1159 00:52:25,520 --> 00:52:26,520 Speaker 3: Any reporter that. 1160 00:52:26,560 --> 00:52:28,640 Speaker 5: Ever says that, that says a lot of people are 1161 00:52:28,640 --> 00:52:30,560 Speaker 5: saying or people are saying this and then brings up 1162 00:52:30,600 --> 00:52:31,240 Speaker 5: a tough question. 1163 00:52:32,000 --> 00:52:34,960 Speaker 3: Just you're a word you can't say on this show. 1164 00:52:35,000 --> 00:52:39,239 Speaker 5: You're you're just being a shallow weak person in that 1165 00:52:39,280 --> 00:52:40,160 Speaker 5: spot when you're. 1166 00:52:40,080 --> 00:52:43,240 Speaker 1: Just a little bit of there no shallow weak person. 1167 00:52:43,400 --> 00:52:46,359 Speaker 5: I think so, because if you're gonna have the if 1168 00:52:46,400 --> 00:52:48,960 Speaker 5: you're gonna say that in a public spot, you stand 1169 00:52:49,000 --> 00:52:51,560 Speaker 5: on it. You're getting on them for not you know, 1170 00:52:51,640 --> 00:52:54,520 Speaker 5: being tough and standing out and you are like exhibiting 1171 00:52:54,920 --> 00:52:58,960 Speaker 5: the worst sort of like secondhand I'm afraid to actually 1172 00:52:59,000 --> 00:53:00,879 Speaker 5: say this, but I'm gonna put it on a lot 1173 00:53:00,880 --> 00:53:02,719 Speaker 5: of people out there are saying it. 1174 00:53:02,719 --> 00:53:03,959 Speaker 3: You're there, just say it. It's fine. 1175 00:53:04,000 --> 00:53:06,160 Speaker 5: He'll respect you more for that too, Like it's not 1176 00:53:06,280 --> 00:53:08,920 Speaker 5: that big of a deal. He's frustrated because, like the 1177 00:53:09,040 --> 00:53:12,120 Speaker 5: NFL is brutal, it's a short season. These two Like 1178 00:53:12,200 --> 00:53:14,600 Speaker 5: have they played better than the Commanders on balance in 1179 00:53:14,640 --> 00:53:17,800 Speaker 5: their two games? Like, sure they have, but these games 1180 00:53:17,840 --> 00:53:19,920 Speaker 5: come down to the end, especially when they're the Chargers, 1181 00:53:19,920 --> 00:53:21,680 Speaker 5: and they usually end this way when they're the Chargers 1182 00:53:21,680 --> 00:53:22,279 Speaker 5: and he's the coache. 1183 00:53:22,320 --> 00:53:24,360 Speaker 2: I know what you're saying. We've talked about this before. 1184 00:53:24,680 --> 00:53:27,719 Speaker 2: I hate when reporters open a question that way. Say 1185 00:53:27,719 --> 00:53:30,759 Speaker 2: that's what you're saying, Yeah, that's all. Now this is 1186 00:53:30,760 --> 00:53:32,879 Speaker 2: where you could bring it up. I'll just to kind 1187 00:53:32,920 --> 00:53:34,640 Speaker 2: of extend that a little bit. A lot of people 1188 00:53:34,680 --> 00:53:37,279 Speaker 2: are saying that, not necessarily, that the end of last 1189 00:53:37,320 --> 00:53:40,120 Speaker 2: season is somehow carried a hangover, Because if that's what 1190 00:53:40,160 --> 00:53:42,600 Speaker 2: the reporter's question was exactly, I'm not sure what his 1191 00:53:43,000 --> 00:53:46,840 Speaker 2: true angle was, then I disagree. But a larger idea 1192 00:53:46,840 --> 00:53:49,359 Speaker 2: about the Chargers and an inability to ask them about 1193 00:53:49,400 --> 00:53:51,439 Speaker 2: that that's a good question, Like there's a better way 1194 00:53:51,440 --> 00:53:54,839 Speaker 2: to ask that question, and but overall there is it's 1195 00:53:54,840 --> 00:53:57,680 Speaker 2: fair to wonder whether the Brandon Staly Chargers are ever 1196 00:53:57,719 --> 00:53:59,239 Speaker 2: gonna figure it out or we're gonna just be in 1197 00:53:59,239 --> 00:54:00,240 Speaker 2: this purgatory. 1198 00:53:59,840 --> 00:54:03,640 Speaker 4: For right why, like we let's just isolate what the 1199 00:54:03,640 --> 00:54:07,279 Speaker 4: Brandon Staley Chargers are. He went on a long, you know, 1200 00:54:07,400 --> 00:54:11,400 Speaker 4: explanation a season plus ago, saying like whatever came before 1201 00:54:11,480 --> 00:54:14,160 Speaker 4: here is different. Now, it's not what we're gonna be. 1202 00:54:14,239 --> 00:54:16,839 Speaker 4: And that's fine. I liked that he said that back then. 1203 00:54:16,880 --> 00:54:18,719 Speaker 4: I liked that that's his mentality, and I think he's 1204 00:54:18,719 --> 00:54:22,399 Speaker 4: a smart, ingenius coach. But that's not been the case. 1205 00:54:22,440 --> 00:54:25,160 Speaker 4: The Chargers have been as chargery as any time before. 1206 00:54:25,160 --> 00:54:27,040 Speaker 4: And I think the one thing that bothers me today 1207 00:54:27,480 --> 00:54:29,799 Speaker 4: is that under Kellen Moore was like, we're gonna they 1208 00:54:29,800 --> 00:54:32,200 Speaker 4: didn't have Austin Eckler, but Kelly is still a good 1209 00:54:32,280 --> 00:54:34,319 Speaker 4: running back. You ran the ball for two point nine 1210 00:54:34,400 --> 00:54:36,600 Speaker 4: yards per Carrie six one yards. Tennessee is a good 1211 00:54:36,719 --> 00:54:38,680 Speaker 4: run front, one of the best in the league. But 1212 00:54:38,760 --> 00:54:41,120 Speaker 4: you didn't find a way around that. And on that 1213 00:54:41,239 --> 00:54:45,320 Speaker 4: was against the defense. Missing Christian Fulton missing Amar Hooker, 1214 00:54:45,440 --> 00:54:47,719 Speaker 4: Amani Hooker. I just think if you are on the 1215 00:54:47,760 --> 00:54:51,319 Speaker 4: flip side year three, Brandon Staley, like, what are you 1216 00:54:51,360 --> 00:54:55,000 Speaker 4: on defense? Like you WoT the Titans awoke on offense 1217 00:54:55,200 --> 00:54:58,080 Speaker 4: after looking very lost for six courts five plus quarters 1218 00:54:58,440 --> 00:55:02,160 Speaker 4: with deep downfield by Bosa, woke up today. You did 1219 00:55:02,160 --> 00:55:04,600 Speaker 4: get the rush going, but there is no identity to 1220 00:55:04,680 --> 00:55:07,040 Speaker 4: this Chargers defense other than we're probably gonna collapse at 1221 00:55:07,040 --> 00:55:07,359 Speaker 4: some point. 1222 00:55:07,400 --> 00:55:10,040 Speaker 2: Give the Titans from some flowers, mark because I could 1223 00:55:10,080 --> 00:55:11,440 Speaker 2: hear a grave digger getting upset. 1224 00:55:11,440 --> 00:55:11,920 Speaker 3: Well, he's right. 1225 00:55:11,920 --> 00:55:15,080 Speaker 5: This is such a classic Titans win versus the yeah Chargers. 1226 00:55:15,200 --> 00:55:17,279 Speaker 2: What did the Titans do here that they didn't do 1227 00:55:17,400 --> 00:55:18,640 Speaker 2: last week against the Saints? 1228 00:55:18,719 --> 00:55:21,120 Speaker 4: Well, a number one, you got an efficient Ryan Tannehill 1229 00:55:21,120 --> 00:55:24,320 Speaker 4: who wasn't destroyed. I mean he did in flick damage, 1230 00:55:24,320 --> 00:55:26,879 Speaker 4: but he looked more like Ryan Tannehill. And you are 1231 00:55:26,920 --> 00:55:30,840 Speaker 4: working with you know, Nick Westbrook, Aquina and like DeAndre Hopkins, 1232 00:55:30,920 --> 00:55:32,719 Speaker 4: had a little bit more to do today, but they 1233 00:55:32,760 --> 00:55:35,600 Speaker 4: got the their passing game made big plays when they 1234 00:55:35,640 --> 00:55:38,080 Speaker 4: needed to. And I thought that you know your run 1235 00:55:38,120 --> 00:55:41,920 Speaker 4: game made they converted it in key third down spots 1236 00:55:42,160 --> 00:55:44,239 Speaker 4: and like the version of we got a Tannahill a 1237 00:55:44,239 --> 00:55:46,760 Speaker 4: week ago. You're gonna go win four games all season. 1238 00:55:47,040 --> 00:55:48,760 Speaker 4: This Tannahill is the guy we've been watching. 1239 00:55:49,520 --> 00:55:51,600 Speaker 5: Derek Henry owners in fantasy might have a little bit 1240 00:55:51,600 --> 00:55:52,920 Speaker 5: of a Tije Bears problem. 1241 00:55:53,120 --> 00:55:53,600 Speaker 3: He's too good. 1242 00:55:53,640 --> 00:55:54,840 Speaker 5: You gotta keep them on the field, and he was 1243 00:55:54,920 --> 00:55:56,960 Speaker 5: on midfield though. Yeah, it's great for them, it's great 1244 00:55:57,000 --> 00:56:01,520 Speaker 5: for them. Let's head to your world. 1245 00:56:01,280 --> 00:56:06,080 Speaker 1: The four ball the left great Bob and the gun 1246 00:56:06,200 --> 00:56:07,160 Speaker 1: back is on his left. 1247 00:56:07,160 --> 00:56:10,319 Speaker 17: Snap goes back looking to his left, looking looking checks 1248 00:56:10,360 --> 00:56:10,759 Speaker 17: it down. 1249 00:56:10,920 --> 00:56:11,160 Speaker 1: We go. 1250 00:56:11,719 --> 00:56:22,560 Speaker 17: The one leans over the pylon touchdown, slip touchdown of 1251 00:56:22,680 --> 00:56:25,880 Speaker 17: the year. Jake Ferguson was not happy with him. 1252 00:56:25,920 --> 00:56:28,600 Speaker 20: Shown we're gonna bleep out, did not catch the ball 1253 00:56:29,560 --> 00:56:33,400 Speaker 20: and to show and we're we sell out on our 1254 00:56:33,440 --> 00:56:37,520 Speaker 20: own took the ball when they want the company any 1255 00:56:37,560 --> 00:56:38,320 Speaker 20: of these, we're part. 1256 00:56:38,200 --> 00:56:38,640 Speaker 1: Of it, right. 1257 00:56:38,680 --> 00:56:40,799 Speaker 5: You could have watched that play on NFL Plus. But 1258 00:56:40,840 --> 00:56:43,799 Speaker 5: we're not playing the sponsor on hell cowboys are. 1259 00:56:43,880 --> 00:56:46,600 Speaker 1: I'd love to drive a Toyota Highlander. I don't have one. 1260 00:56:46,640 --> 00:56:48,360 Speaker 1: It's not like they gave them to us. 1261 00:56:49,560 --> 00:56:53,960 Speaker 2: But you don't get that that's an idea. Brad Sham 1262 00:56:53,960 --> 00:56:57,880 Speaker 2: the sham god our friend with the call. Dak Prescott 1263 00:56:57,880 --> 00:57:01,560 Speaker 2: threw two touchdown passes, which is better than Zach Wilson, 1264 00:57:01,560 --> 00:57:04,600 Speaker 2: who threw three interceptions and his first start after Aaron 1265 00:57:04,680 --> 00:57:09,440 Speaker 2: Rodgers season ending well question mark Achilles tendon injury, and 1266 00:57:09,480 --> 00:57:14,640 Speaker 2: the Cowboys roll the Jets thirty to ten, and the 1267 00:57:15,840 --> 00:57:20,400 Speaker 2: talked about on Thursday, this was a buzzsaw situation for 1268 00:57:20,400 --> 00:57:22,040 Speaker 2: the Jets given where they are and the way the 1269 00:57:22,080 --> 00:57:24,560 Speaker 2: Cowboys look right now, and it was that way. But 1270 00:57:24,640 --> 00:57:28,920 Speaker 2: it's interesting watching this game how close it was to 1271 00:57:29,080 --> 00:57:33,240 Speaker 2: almost being a real game. It was Cowboys who really 1272 00:57:33,520 --> 00:57:35,840 Speaker 2: kind of bullied the Jets defense, which was a surprise. 1273 00:57:35,920 --> 00:57:38,160 Speaker 1: You didn't expect that, but that's what happened in this game. 1274 00:57:39,040 --> 00:57:42,520 Speaker 2: Up ten to nothing and the Jets offense doing less 1275 00:57:42,560 --> 00:57:45,880 Speaker 2: than zero until Zach Wilson plants his back foot and 1276 00:57:46,000 --> 00:57:49,160 Speaker 2: zips went into Garrett Wilson in man coverage and Garrett 1277 00:57:49,160 --> 00:57:52,840 Speaker 2: Wilson does, which Garrett Wilson does sixty seven yards to 1278 00:57:52,880 --> 00:57:54,880 Speaker 2: the house, and all of a sudden, it's ten to seven. 1279 00:57:54,960 --> 00:57:58,160 Speaker 2: Dak Prescott then drops back on the next drive and 1280 00:57:58,280 --> 00:58:01,840 Speaker 2: hangs one on the sideline. Sauce Gardner reads it perfectly 1281 00:58:02,760 --> 00:58:06,160 Speaker 2: breaks on the ball, jumps, the receiver's route drops what 1282 00:58:06,440 --> 00:58:09,600 Speaker 2: is a back pocket pick six. So you go from 1283 00:58:09,920 --> 00:58:13,160 Speaker 2: potentially fourteen ten Jets and a whole new ball game 1284 00:58:13,440 --> 00:58:16,640 Speaker 2: and Dak feeling that energy suck after all the turnovers 1285 00:58:16,720 --> 00:58:20,120 Speaker 2: last year, to new life. The Cowboys turned that second 1286 00:58:20,160 --> 00:58:24,280 Speaker 2: life into a touchdown helped on a very tick tech 1287 00:58:24,640 --> 00:58:26,919 Speaker 2: roughing the passer call and third down in the red zone. 1288 00:58:26,960 --> 00:58:28,880 Speaker 2: But it is what it is and they never look 1289 00:58:28,960 --> 00:58:33,520 Speaker 2: back from that point onward and Boys Zach Wilson. A 1290 00:58:33,520 --> 00:58:35,320 Speaker 2: lot of the storyline will be on the Jet side, 1291 00:58:35,560 --> 00:58:38,200 Speaker 2: Zach Wilson's three interceptions, which I don't think is totally 1292 00:58:38,240 --> 00:58:41,680 Speaker 2: fair for me. The storyline is more what the quarterback 1293 00:58:41,720 --> 00:58:45,600 Speaker 2: of the Jets was facing, which was a Cowboys front 1294 00:58:45,640 --> 00:58:48,600 Speaker 2: four and front seven led by Micah Parsons that looked 1295 00:58:48,720 --> 00:58:52,600 Speaker 2: unstoppable for the second straight week. And it's always a 1296 00:58:52,600 --> 00:58:56,800 Speaker 2: little bit different when it's your team playing player X 1297 00:58:56,840 --> 00:58:59,760 Speaker 2: that everyone rave is about. But Parsons has been putting 1298 00:58:59,800 --> 00:59:04,040 Speaker 2: on an on tape for years now. It was said 1299 00:59:04,120 --> 00:59:08,120 Speaker 2: in this telecast, who was it? It was Romo and Nance. 1300 00:59:08,640 --> 00:59:10,440 Speaker 2: Nance said that he thinks and he's called a lot 1301 00:59:10,440 --> 00:59:13,200 Speaker 2: of Cowboys game. That was the best Micah Parsons game ever. 1302 00:59:13,800 --> 00:59:16,280 Speaker 2: And he was a constant force and a nightmare for 1303 00:59:16,320 --> 00:59:16,760 Speaker 2: the Jets. 1304 00:59:16,760 --> 00:59:20,080 Speaker 4: He had that strip of Dalvin Cook and he raced 1305 00:59:20,080 --> 00:59:22,840 Speaker 4: to the house. Uh, you know, ruled down. Parsons was 1306 00:59:22,920 --> 00:59:24,640 Speaker 4: ruled down, but it was still a strip like that 1307 00:59:24,760 --> 00:59:27,600 Speaker 4: was like Defensive Player of the Year material, right, it 1308 00:59:27,640 --> 00:59:28,760 Speaker 4: was like MVP. 1309 00:59:28,520 --> 00:59:30,520 Speaker 1: Stuff the game. It's just the way he played. 1310 00:59:30,360 --> 00:59:33,080 Speaker 5: More quarterback hits, three tackles for last two sacks, a 1311 00:59:33,120 --> 00:59:35,640 Speaker 5: pass defense of forced fumble, and there. 1312 00:59:35,560 --> 00:59:38,680 Speaker 2: Was and you and we're a little young, even Mark 1313 00:59:38,800 --> 00:59:40,360 Speaker 2: is like a football fan in the mid eighties, you 1314 00:59:40,360 --> 00:59:42,760 Speaker 2: weren't really, I'm sure all there yet, Like when they 1315 00:59:42,800 --> 00:59:44,200 Speaker 2: talk about Lawrence Taylor. 1316 00:59:44,120 --> 00:59:45,800 Speaker 4: I watched a lot. I was all there. Like in 1317 00:59:45,840 --> 00:59:49,400 Speaker 4: terms of Lawrence Taylor my television, Like every week LT, 1318 00:59:50,240 --> 00:59:53,120 Speaker 4: you were a boy genius. No, no, you could you. 1319 00:59:53,240 --> 00:59:55,200 Speaker 4: I would say that you could be a very dim 1320 00:59:55,200 --> 00:59:57,320 Speaker 4: witted individual. And see that LT made a difference. 1321 00:59:57,320 --> 00:59:59,800 Speaker 3: He was on NFL Plus back then breaking down the altar. 1322 01:00:00,600 --> 01:00:02,400 Speaker 2: But Lawrence Seller when you watch those old clips on 1323 01:00:02,520 --> 01:00:06,000 Speaker 2: NFL films, like the way the immediacy in which he 1324 01:00:06,080 --> 01:00:09,040 Speaker 2: got to the quarterback and how we made offensive lines 1325 01:00:09,640 --> 01:00:12,760 Speaker 2: looks silly. There's a on the first possession for the Jets. 1326 01:00:12,760 --> 01:00:14,800 Speaker 2: It ends with a Parson sack where he literally is 1327 01:00:14,800 --> 01:00:17,840 Speaker 2: in the backfield in less than two seconds and taking 1328 01:00:17,880 --> 01:00:21,040 Speaker 2: out the quarterback, and that just set the tone for 1329 01:00:21,120 --> 01:00:23,920 Speaker 2: the game. And like I said, if Sauce makes that 1330 01:00:23,960 --> 01:00:25,720 Speaker 2: play and it goes the other way, you never know. 1331 01:00:26,040 --> 01:00:29,120 Speaker 2: But overall, like this loss was not because Aaron Rodgers 1332 01:00:29,160 --> 01:00:31,440 Speaker 2: in Malibu right now with his state of the art 1333 01:00:31,480 --> 01:00:35,960 Speaker 2: surgery recuperation. It's because the Jets defense got its ass 1334 01:00:35,960 --> 01:00:40,920 Speaker 2: handed to it to them by a Cowboys offense that 1335 01:00:41,000 --> 01:00:45,480 Speaker 2: looks very good and a defense that looks otherworldly through 1336 01:00:45,520 --> 01:00:46,080 Speaker 2: two weeks. 1337 01:00:46,360 --> 01:00:46,840 Speaker 1: Look out. 1338 01:00:47,000 --> 01:00:49,560 Speaker 4: But I so I hear what you're saying. You can 1339 01:00:49,800 --> 01:00:52,200 Speaker 4: just pin it all on Wilson or X, Y and Z. 1340 01:00:52,400 --> 01:00:56,040 Speaker 4: But the uneven nature of this of this team right 1341 01:00:56,080 --> 01:00:58,560 Speaker 4: now and both sides of the ball is what freaks 1342 01:00:58,560 --> 01:01:01,120 Speaker 4: me out because we have to point to had this 1343 01:01:01,200 --> 01:01:03,560 Speaker 4: one play happened, they would have had a chance. The 1344 01:01:03,600 --> 01:01:05,640 Speaker 4: door would have still been slightly open. It's like you're 1345 01:01:05,680 --> 01:01:08,920 Speaker 4: waiting for a very improbable thing to occur, and it's 1346 01:01:09,000 --> 01:01:11,720 Speaker 4: typically gonna have to be the defense making some wizard 1347 01:01:11,720 --> 01:01:14,600 Speaker 4: play or scoring. The Cowboys had the ball for forty 1348 01:01:14,600 --> 01:01:18,160 Speaker 4: two minutes. Yes, the Cowboys had twenty six first downs, 1349 01:01:18,160 --> 01:01:20,560 Speaker 4: the Jets had twelve. The Jets were one for ten 1350 01:01:20,640 --> 01:01:23,160 Speaker 4: on third down, the Cowboys were nine for eighteen. The 1351 01:01:23,240 --> 01:01:25,520 Speaker 4: Cowboys had three hundred and eighty two total yards. The 1352 01:01:25,560 --> 01:01:28,280 Speaker 4: Jets had two hundred and fifteen. The Cowboys had eighty 1353 01:01:28,280 --> 01:01:31,080 Speaker 4: three offensive plays, the Jets had forty six. That's a 1354 01:01:31,160 --> 01:01:33,560 Speaker 4: non functioning offense. It has a lot to do with 1355 01:01:33,600 --> 01:01:35,840 Speaker 4: the Cowboys defense, but I'm not sure it has a 1356 01:01:35,840 --> 01:01:38,360 Speaker 4: lot to do with who they played next week either. 1357 01:01:38,440 --> 01:01:41,120 Speaker 4: It's like, you have a real problem here. And my 1358 01:01:41,240 --> 01:01:44,400 Speaker 4: concern is because it's such a likable, well coached team 1359 01:01:44,520 --> 01:01:47,120 Speaker 4: that you're gonna get a locker room schism because the 1360 01:01:47,200 --> 01:01:49,840 Speaker 4: defense is going to tire out and give up plays 1361 01:01:50,000 --> 01:01:52,480 Speaker 4: after a while. When you're out there for forty plus minutes. 1362 01:01:52,280 --> 01:01:53,000 Speaker 3: You gotta. 1363 01:01:54,360 --> 01:01:54,880 Speaker 1: Run the ball. 1364 01:01:54,920 --> 01:01:57,320 Speaker 5: If you're there's too many things to overcome if you 1365 01:01:57,320 --> 01:02:01,520 Speaker 5: don't have a running game and whatever Zach Wilson is 1366 01:02:01,520 --> 01:02:03,480 Speaker 5: gonna give you as a passer, and certainly in this match, 1367 01:02:03,600 --> 01:02:05,919 Speaker 5: their schedule stays brutal. I mean, it's not gonna say 1368 01:02:05,960 --> 01:02:09,160 Speaker 5: this brutal the whole season. It's a tough, tougher match. 1369 01:02:09,200 --> 01:02:11,000 Speaker 5: Tough matchup against the Patriots are not as tough as 1370 01:02:11,160 --> 01:02:15,960 Speaker 5: as this. But it's a concern when the main storyline 1371 01:02:15,960 --> 01:02:17,280 Speaker 5: coming out of the game is rich to me and 1372 01:02:17,320 --> 01:02:19,320 Speaker 5: he's saying, like the support this, the moot and locker 1373 01:02:19,360 --> 01:02:21,840 Speaker 5: room is really supportive. They came in there, Garrett Wilson's 1374 01:02:21,840 --> 01:02:24,080 Speaker 5: got his arm around him, the teaser that titands are 1375 01:02:24,080 --> 01:02:28,040 Speaker 5: there encouraging him. Wilson said, you know he's being encouraging. 1376 01:02:28,040 --> 01:02:29,880 Speaker 5: We got your back. The team's got his back. It's like, 1377 01:02:30,720 --> 01:02:33,080 Speaker 5: that's good. He's gonna They're gonna need to step up too. 1378 01:02:33,120 --> 01:02:35,200 Speaker 5: But I I do think that almost any team playing 1379 01:02:35,200 --> 01:02:36,960 Speaker 5: in Dallas right now is gonna run into this sort 1380 01:02:37,000 --> 01:02:37,400 Speaker 5: of bus set. 1381 01:02:37,600 --> 01:02:39,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, and you know I said it in the summer. 1382 01:02:39,680 --> 01:02:41,600 Speaker 2: It felt like a needless gambled by the Jets have 1383 01:02:41,640 --> 01:02:44,240 Speaker 2: Wilson is the number two quarterback. But you but that 1384 01:02:44,440 --> 01:02:46,320 Speaker 2: this is the reality, and because it was the Jets, 1385 01:02:46,400 --> 01:02:49,720 Speaker 2: the absolute worst case scenario immediately presented itself. Ow Dak 1386 01:02:49,800 --> 01:02:52,120 Speaker 2: look by the way, uh, I'll get to that in 1387 01:02:52,200 --> 01:02:55,200 Speaker 2: one second. Like, but he is not going anywhere and 1388 01:02:55,240 --> 01:02:57,880 Speaker 2: I'm like text threads that I'm getting I gotta bench him, 1389 01:02:57,880 --> 01:03:00,640 Speaker 2: gotta you gotta put in the third string Cord. No, 1390 01:03:00,760 --> 01:03:02,640 Speaker 2: Like they made their bed and now they have to 1391 01:03:02,680 --> 01:03:04,720 Speaker 2: find a way to make it work. With Wilson, who 1392 01:03:04,760 --> 01:03:06,800 Speaker 2: two of his interceptions were when the game was kind 1393 01:03:06,840 --> 01:03:09,760 Speaker 2: of decided, I didn't think he played as badly as 1394 01:03:09,800 --> 01:03:12,120 Speaker 2: the stat line looks. I'll let you guys decide on 1395 01:03:12,160 --> 01:03:14,880 Speaker 2: the On the Dak side, great, Dak look great again. 1396 01:03:14,960 --> 01:03:17,240 Speaker 2: He should have had a pick six hung on him, 1397 01:03:17,280 --> 01:03:19,920 Speaker 2: but other than that, he kind of did whatever he wanted. 1398 01:03:19,920 --> 01:03:23,000 Speaker 2: There were multiple times where the pass rush almost gets 1399 01:03:23,000 --> 01:03:25,920 Speaker 2: home to Dak and he hangs in there and delivers 1400 01:03:25,960 --> 01:03:28,880 Speaker 2: the pass. And even on a day where they try 1401 01:03:28,880 --> 01:03:30,920 Speaker 2: to run the ball and the especially once they were 1402 01:03:30,960 --> 01:03:32,600 Speaker 2: in control of the game, they run the ball forty 1403 01:03:32,600 --> 01:03:35,240 Speaker 2: four times but average three yards a clip and rushing 1404 01:03:35,480 --> 01:03:37,720 Speaker 2: Dak made enough big plays with Ceede Lamb who had 1405 01:03:37,720 --> 01:03:40,800 Speaker 2: one hundred and forty three yards that they just cruise. 1406 01:03:40,880 --> 01:03:42,640 Speaker 2: And I you know, if I'm the Eagles, and I 1407 01:03:42,680 --> 01:03:45,200 Speaker 2: know the Eagles are the team to beat in the NFC, 1408 01:03:45,320 --> 01:03:46,320 Speaker 2: A lot of people believe this. 1409 01:03:47,800 --> 01:03:50,800 Speaker 1: I shouldn't say that Greg will call me a weak. 1410 01:03:50,680 --> 01:03:53,000 Speaker 3: Willed I mean all I'm saying. 1411 01:03:53,960 --> 01:03:55,520 Speaker 2: I know not a lot of people are saying it. 1412 01:03:55,920 --> 01:03:58,360 Speaker 2: I'm saying. 1413 01:04:00,680 --> 01:04:03,240 Speaker 5: But the Cowboys also though, like that's a big spot, 1414 01:04:03,320 --> 01:04:06,680 Speaker 5: like that's your fourth down decision that you're criticizing them, 1415 01:04:06,720 --> 01:04:08,280 Speaker 5: or that's your big moment and you. 1416 01:04:08,280 --> 01:04:09,760 Speaker 1: And you, I know where you're going from. 1417 01:04:09,840 --> 01:04:12,240 Speaker 2: The Cowboys and Niners to me, so far are the 1418 01:04:12,240 --> 01:04:17,560 Speaker 2: two best teams in the league. Let's move on, let's 1419 01:04:17,800 --> 01:04:19,160 Speaker 2: move on anything else. 1420 01:04:19,560 --> 01:04:22,320 Speaker 5: Just the NFC East hasn't lost the game yet outside 1421 01:04:22,360 --> 01:04:22,880 Speaker 5: the division? 1422 01:04:23,560 --> 01:04:25,280 Speaker 1: How many Homona Hamana seven. 1423 01:04:25,080 --> 01:04:29,800 Speaker 2: And oh, let's stick in the NFC East. Who this 1424 01:04:29,800 --> 01:04:31,880 Speaker 2: will be a thirty four yard or from the right 1425 01:04:32,000 --> 01:04:36,720 Speaker 2: hash kill in the hole, cried or the long snapper. 1426 01:04:36,320 --> 01:04:40,360 Speaker 1: Big whispers, not gonna like that, lew eight. You know 1427 01:04:40,440 --> 01:04:44,600 Speaker 1: it's anti whisper kick on its way twenty of length. Man, 1428 01:04:44,640 --> 01:04:45,600 Speaker 1: it is good. 1429 01:04:47,000 --> 01:04:50,400 Speaker 17: Ram Cano hits from thirty four yards out and with 1430 01:04:50,560 --> 01:04:53,760 Speaker 17: nineteen seconds to go in the game, the Giants lead. 1431 01:04:53,680 --> 01:04:55,440 Speaker 1: At thirty one twenty eight. 1432 01:04:56,560 --> 01:05:05,960 Speaker 2: O Bob Popo in the call w f An Grangano's 1433 01:05:06,000 --> 01:05:07,840 Speaker 2: field goal in the final seconds. The difference for the 1434 01:05:07,920 --> 01:05:11,280 Speaker 2: g Men, who wiped out a twenty one point second 1435 01:05:11,320 --> 01:05:13,880 Speaker 2: half deficit and a thirty one twenty eight win over 1436 01:05:13,920 --> 01:05:18,440 Speaker 2: the Cardinals in the Desert. Oh, Cardinals, if they're sitting 1437 01:05:18,480 --> 01:05:20,720 Speaker 2: on own thirteen in a couple of months. 1438 01:05:20,760 --> 01:05:22,360 Speaker 1: You're gonna kick yourself about this one. 1439 01:05:22,440 --> 01:05:25,840 Speaker 2: Really week one as well, or maybe they're not as bad, 1440 01:05:26,320 --> 01:05:28,880 Speaker 2: doesn't matter, we'll get to it later. Daniel Jones accounted 1441 01:05:28,920 --> 01:05:32,240 Speaker 2: for three touchdowns in the comeback, the Giant's largest. 1442 01:05:31,880 --> 01:05:37,440 Speaker 1: Since the nineteen fifty season Sizzler. It is indeed on 1443 01:05:39,320 --> 01:05:40,800 Speaker 1: in New York's hip. 1444 01:05:46,080 --> 01:05:48,520 Speaker 4: I was like that, dude, Yeah, that's a nice little 1445 01:05:48,880 --> 01:05:51,000 Speaker 4: like do what. No one asked her to sing it 1446 01:05:51,040 --> 01:05:53,560 Speaker 4: that way. She did it on like do what? What's 1447 01:05:53,600 --> 01:05:57,080 Speaker 4: your what may sit on? You're in, if you're if 1448 01:05:57,080 --> 01:05:58,520 Speaker 4: you fine yourself in New York City, you. 1449 01:05:58,480 --> 01:06:00,520 Speaker 1: Could do a lot of good follow up question what's on? 1450 01:06:02,320 --> 01:06:08,080 Speaker 4: It's a mysterious song. Uh like this stadium in Phoenix 1451 01:06:08,160 --> 01:06:10,680 Speaker 4: or Glendale sounded like, uh New York City, it was 1452 01:06:10,720 --> 01:06:12,600 Speaker 4: like sixty five. It's one of these stadiums where it's 1453 01:06:12,600 --> 01:06:15,080 Speaker 4: like just suddenly sixty five percent of the visiting team. Sure, 1454 01:06:16,200 --> 01:06:18,400 Speaker 4: I mean I Greg, I think I heard you say 1455 01:06:18,440 --> 01:06:20,720 Speaker 4: that you Uh, there was a part of you, and 1456 01:06:20,760 --> 01:06:23,160 Speaker 4: I know you're not the Giant's biggest fan of the planet. 1457 01:06:23,160 --> 01:06:26,560 Speaker 4: That when they were getting cooked heavily by a Cardinals 1458 01:06:26,600 --> 01:06:30,840 Speaker 4: team where like Josh Dobbs looked totally competent, They're making 1459 01:06:30,880 --> 01:06:35,840 Speaker 4: big plays, James Connor was fired up and shredding this 1460 01:06:35,960 --> 01:06:38,720 Speaker 4: Giant's defense. It looked completely lost. The offense looked loss. 1461 01:06:39,000 --> 01:06:40,440 Speaker 4: That there was a party who kind of wanted to, 1462 01:06:40,480 --> 01:06:42,480 Speaker 4: like had this holy anger to come on and just 1463 01:06:43,080 --> 01:06:46,000 Speaker 4: tear the Giants a new one on the show I'm I'm, I'm. 1464 01:06:46,480 --> 01:06:50,080 Speaker 2: Dance on the trip to San Francisco on Thursday night, 1465 01:06:50,120 --> 01:06:52,560 Speaker 2: you needed, I felt. 1466 01:06:52,360 --> 01:06:54,920 Speaker 4: Like you were more mad I was. I was furious 1467 01:06:54,960 --> 01:06:57,080 Speaker 4: at them. It was just like because I think the 1468 01:06:57,160 --> 01:07:01,040 Speaker 4: thing I thought that was consistent was like Brian table Obvio, 1469 01:07:01,120 --> 01:07:02,800 Speaker 4: I thought he deserved Coach of the Year. He was 1470 01:07:02,880 --> 01:07:05,600 Speaker 4: he he worked on so many different levels for me, 1471 01:07:05,960 --> 01:07:09,320 Speaker 4: and like through six quarters, they just looked poorly coached. 1472 01:07:09,320 --> 01:07:12,080 Speaker 4: There were all these terrible penalties. The offensive line couldn't 1473 01:07:12,080 --> 01:07:14,600 Speaker 4: get out of their own way, like Daniel Jones looked 1474 01:07:14,600 --> 01:07:17,920 Speaker 4: like one of the worst re signings UH of our 1475 01:07:18,000 --> 01:07:18,880 Speaker 4: podcast run. 1476 01:07:18,960 --> 01:07:21,680 Speaker 2: Can I quote the Twitter? The Twitter echo chamber out there. Yeah, 1477 01:07:21,760 --> 01:07:24,080 Speaker 2: doesn't like Daniel Jones. I saw a tweet that said, 1478 01:07:24,160 --> 01:07:26,920 Speaker 2: just a reminder that the Giants only have one year 1479 01:07:26,960 --> 01:07:29,720 Speaker 2: of guaranteed money left toward Daniel Jones. After this year, 1480 01:07:30,840 --> 01:07:32,800 Speaker 2: the great like the shovels were out. 1481 01:07:33,000 --> 01:07:35,640 Speaker 4: Yeah, g men tonight and then it just it, this 1482 01:07:35,880 --> 01:07:38,120 Speaker 4: just happens like it seems with these teams that start 1483 01:07:38,120 --> 01:07:41,400 Speaker 4: this way, like it's the Giants just completely changed and 1484 01:07:41,400 --> 01:07:45,280 Speaker 4: and everything started to come to life. It was a 1485 01:07:45,320 --> 01:07:48,479 Speaker 4: lot to do with rookie Jalen Hyatt who caught uh 1486 01:07:48,880 --> 01:07:52,560 Speaker 4: two big passes in this. Saquon Barkley got going, we 1487 01:07:52,640 --> 01:07:55,280 Speaker 4: got Darren Waller involved, and it was like Daniel Jones 1488 01:07:55,360 --> 01:07:58,520 Speaker 4: just looked like last year's Daryl Daniel Jones. And and 1489 01:07:58,600 --> 01:08:02,439 Speaker 4: Saquan who left late with a did not like that 1490 01:08:02,600 --> 01:08:06,040 Speaker 4: pretty nasty. Looked like a nasty ankle injury. Find out more. 1491 01:08:06,800 --> 01:08:09,320 Speaker 4: And they played Thursday night, so that's against San Francisco. 1492 01:08:09,400 --> 01:08:11,960 Speaker 4: So it's like it's it gets dark all over again. 1493 01:08:12,960 --> 01:08:15,160 Speaker 4: But this was this was what you were hoping from 1494 01:08:15,200 --> 01:08:18,320 Speaker 4: New York. And again it came against the Cardinals. Although 1495 01:08:18,320 --> 01:08:21,960 Speaker 4: the Cardinals, honestly, I like this was a massive collapse. 1496 01:08:21,960 --> 01:08:24,360 Speaker 4: There's no way around it. It is a disaster of 1497 01:08:24,400 --> 01:08:26,840 Speaker 4: a loss for for Gannon and friends because it's like 1498 01:08:26,960 --> 01:08:29,559 Speaker 4: this would have been a massive victory, and like I thought, Dobbs, 1499 01:08:29,600 --> 01:08:31,880 Speaker 4: like compared to last week, made some big plays. He's 1500 01:08:31,920 --> 01:08:34,120 Speaker 4: only been on this team for twenty five days. I'm 1501 01:08:34,120 --> 01:08:36,639 Speaker 4: not saying he's considered he's done well. Yeah, I would 1502 01:08:36,760 --> 01:08:38,800 Speaker 4: say that it's been or it's that's that I don't 1503 01:08:38,840 --> 01:08:41,160 Speaker 4: think anyone understands how hard it is to suddenly have 1504 01:08:41,200 --> 01:08:42,280 Speaker 4: to go do what he's had to do. 1505 01:08:43,080 --> 01:08:46,280 Speaker 2: He's a patch, he's a he's a placeholder. His thoughts 1506 01:08:46,280 --> 01:08:51,000 Speaker 2: app well, what does that mean he's been sent to 1507 01:08:51,840 --> 01:08:52,479 Speaker 2: be the fall guy? 1508 01:08:55,439 --> 01:08:57,920 Speaker 4: He wasn't playing fall guy today. And I honestly, like 1509 01:08:57,960 --> 01:08:59,640 Speaker 4: we talked a little about James Connor, like he just 1510 01:08:59,640 --> 01:09:01,840 Speaker 4: looks really good right now, and so I think the 1511 01:09:01,880 --> 01:09:05,280 Speaker 4: Cardinals are not to be taken that lightly. It's just 1512 01:09:05,320 --> 01:09:07,519 Speaker 4: that what happened today kind of is like where's the 1513 01:09:07,520 --> 01:09:11,719 Speaker 4: team's mentality after something like this? This was a massive collapse. 1514 01:09:11,760 --> 01:09:14,479 Speaker 5: Yeah, it'll it'll test Jonathan Gainon as a head coach, 1515 01:09:14,520 --> 01:09:18,760 Speaker 5: But that's such a massive victory for the Giants, Like 1516 01:09:18,960 --> 01:09:21,320 Speaker 5: you have to manage the season. Yes, okay, it's not 1517 01:09:21,360 --> 01:09:23,720 Speaker 5: gonna feel great if on Thursday night the forty nine 1518 01:09:23,760 --> 01:09:26,200 Speaker 5: Ers win that game easily. But these seasons are so long. 1519 01:09:26,240 --> 01:09:31,360 Speaker 5: We make these declarative statements early and they go like 1520 01:09:31,439 --> 01:09:33,839 Speaker 5: they go back and forth and back and forth and banking. 1521 01:09:33,920 --> 01:09:37,000 Speaker 5: This one where you didn't just get embarrassed when it 1522 01:09:37,040 --> 01:09:39,120 Speaker 5: was twenty to nothing at halftime, when it was twenty 1523 01:09:39,160 --> 01:09:41,599 Speaker 5: eight to seven midway through the third and you get 1524 01:09:41,600 --> 01:09:46,680 Speaker 5: that victory is just huge in every respect, and these 1525 01:09:46,720 --> 01:09:48,760 Speaker 5: twenty point comebacks are like nothing now, Like we don't 1526 01:09:48,800 --> 01:09:52,040 Speaker 5: even think twice that the Commanders came back from twenty 1527 01:09:52,040 --> 01:09:54,160 Speaker 5: one to three and this one was twenty eight to seven, 1528 01:09:54,360 --> 01:09:57,360 Speaker 5: and the Broncos came back eleven like halfway through the fourth. 1529 01:09:57,439 --> 01:09:59,280 Speaker 3: We just sort of like, oh, yeah, that's the NFL now, 1530 01:09:59,280 --> 01:10:00,200 Speaker 3: because that is the NF. 1531 01:10:00,400 --> 01:10:03,479 Speaker 1: Only this is the Giant's biggest comeback in seventy three. 1532 01:10:03,600 --> 01:10:04,040 Speaker 18: Wow. 1533 01:10:04,640 --> 01:10:06,320 Speaker 1: I mean, you're right, though. 1534 01:10:06,320 --> 01:10:07,479 Speaker 3: But it doesn't it used to be old. 1535 01:10:07,520 --> 01:10:09,479 Speaker 5: It doesn't feel like we're not leading the show with it, 1536 01:10:09,600 --> 01:10:11,200 Speaker 5: like what a historic comeback. 1537 01:10:11,320 --> 01:10:13,400 Speaker 4: The thing I like about it though, is there was 1538 01:10:13,479 --> 01:10:19,200 Speaker 4: no fluke element to it. It was second half drive chart, touchdown, touchdown, touchdown, touchdown. 1539 01:10:19,479 --> 01:10:21,800 Speaker 3: Oh oh, well you get the. 1540 01:10:21,760 --> 01:10:24,000 Speaker 1: Better team figuring it out basically, Yeah. 1541 01:10:23,760 --> 01:10:27,360 Speaker 5: You get Waller and Saquon, the two best players on 1542 01:10:27,400 --> 01:10:29,559 Speaker 5: the offense, and Danielson's running the ball, like the three 1543 01:10:29,600 --> 01:10:33,599 Speaker 5: things you were hoping to build your offense around rolling together. 1544 01:10:33,680 --> 01:10:36,200 Speaker 2: That's encouraging and mega premature for me to say that 1545 01:10:36,360 --> 01:10:39,439 Speaker 2: Saquan's not playing Thursday. But you know these players in 1546 01:10:39,479 --> 01:10:43,000 Speaker 2: the body language. Sometimes he's helped off the field badly, limping, 1547 01:10:43,560 --> 01:10:45,720 Speaker 2: and then he throws his helmet down when he sits down. 1548 01:10:45,920 --> 01:10:48,080 Speaker 1: It had all the looks of a guy that just. 1549 01:10:48,040 --> 01:10:51,640 Speaker 2: Like you know, the the UH trainers, like, yeah, it 1550 01:10:51,640 --> 01:10:53,080 Speaker 2: looks like it might be a high ankle. Yeah, like 1551 01:10:53,320 --> 01:10:55,000 Speaker 2: throw the helmet down, because when you deal with an 1552 01:10:55,000 --> 01:10:57,040 Speaker 2: angle spran like that, it's gonna cost you time and 1553 01:10:57,080 --> 01:10:58,519 Speaker 2: maybe stick with you. I don't know if it's a 1554 01:10:58,600 --> 01:11:00,679 Speaker 2: high but the way he reacted made you think it wasn't. 1555 01:11:00,479 --> 01:11:02,840 Speaker 4: A love Yeah, we saw him and I never liked this, 1556 01:11:03,000 --> 01:11:05,240 Speaker 4: where like still in the ground, he just pounded the 1557 01:11:05,240 --> 01:11:07,120 Speaker 4: turf and it's like he knows more than we know. 1558 01:11:08,040 --> 01:11:11,439 Speaker 1: Well, I hope he's okay. And Giants fans. 1559 01:11:11,479 --> 01:11:14,040 Speaker 2: I told you we weren't gonna do this until they 1560 01:11:14,040 --> 01:11:15,519 Speaker 2: won a football game. And I don't know if you 1561 01:11:15,520 --> 01:11:17,840 Speaker 2: win a football game for a while after this. The 1562 01:11:17,880 --> 01:11:19,800 Speaker 2: schedule is pretty rough of the Giants too, and you 1563 01:11:19,800 --> 01:11:21,360 Speaker 2: take a look at it. But you got this one, 1564 01:11:21,520 --> 01:11:22,679 Speaker 2: so you get this one. 1565 01:11:23,040 --> 01:11:29,200 Speaker 1: Look yall that's. 1566 01:11:29,080 --> 01:11:32,040 Speaker 5: Coming on at the end of that for up, Well, 1567 01:11:32,200 --> 01:11:34,679 Speaker 5: he's had his heart ripped out by these Cardinals two weeks. 1568 01:11:34,800 --> 01:11:38,040 Speaker 2: It's yeah, there's a silver lining, you know, at the 1569 01:11:38,120 --> 01:11:39,519 Speaker 2: end of a long, painful road. 1570 01:11:39,560 --> 01:11:41,960 Speaker 1: Perhaps is there. I don't know. Let's head to so 1571 01:11:42,040 --> 01:11:43,120 Speaker 1: far across the sidewalk. 1572 01:11:43,479 --> 01:11:46,000 Speaker 22: Thirty under center back pedals throws for deepot back in 1573 01:11:46,040 --> 01:11:48,760 Speaker 22: the game. Jennings never made the block, but Tebo breaks 1574 01:11:48,800 --> 01:11:49,240 Speaker 22: a tackle. 1575 01:11:49,520 --> 01:11:51,639 Speaker 3: Tebo checks it on the way out of the collar. 1576 01:11:51,920 --> 01:11:59,040 Speaker 8: There he is, touchdown, said Francesco. 1577 01:12:01,200 --> 01:12:04,880 Speaker 14: Wow, they're loud at Levi's sorry, that is so Fie 1578 01:12:04,960 --> 01:12:08,840 Speaker 14: Freig Papa with the call knbr Deebo Samuel went over 1579 01:12:08,880 --> 01:12:11,600 Speaker 14: one hundred yards from scrimmage, scored that touchdown, gave the 1580 01:12:11,680 --> 01:12:15,639 Speaker 14: Niners breathing room and an eventual thirty twenty three. 1581 01:12:16,439 --> 01:12:18,000 Speaker 3: They got that extra three at the end. 1582 01:12:18,080 --> 01:12:20,639 Speaker 2: Yeah, we'll talk about that win over the rival Rams 1583 01:12:21,040 --> 01:12:25,000 Speaker 2: at Sofi Stadium, which yes, was completely overrun by Red 1584 01:12:25,120 --> 01:12:27,200 Speaker 2: Jerseys in that crowd. 1585 01:12:28,840 --> 01:12:31,360 Speaker 1: Greg brock Perty didn't have a touchdown pass in this game. 1586 01:12:31,360 --> 01:12:33,800 Speaker 2: I think it ended a streak of seven regular season 1587 01:12:33,840 --> 01:12:36,160 Speaker 2: games with at least two But Sam Frank can beat you. 1588 01:12:36,160 --> 01:12:36,920 Speaker 1: In so many ways. 1589 01:12:37,160 --> 01:12:40,040 Speaker 5: They can, and they just have players like Deebo that 1590 01:12:40,080 --> 01:12:42,080 Speaker 5: can make individual plays to beat you. 1591 01:12:42,720 --> 01:12:43,960 Speaker 3: Same thing with Fred Warner. 1592 01:12:43,960 --> 01:12:48,080 Speaker 5: But watching these two teams play, my biggest takeaway was like, Wow, 1593 01:12:48,160 --> 01:12:50,960 Speaker 5: these teams teams seem close in a way that they 1594 01:12:51,080 --> 01:12:53,439 Speaker 5: usually aren't when the Rams in the forty nine ers 1595 01:12:53,479 --> 01:12:56,200 Speaker 5: play even better Rams team. This is a ninth straight 1596 01:12:56,240 --> 01:12:58,880 Speaker 5: regular season win for the forty nine Ers over the Rams. 1597 01:12:58,880 --> 01:13:00,720 Speaker 5: Of course, the NFC championship would have matter the most. 1598 01:13:00,840 --> 01:13:04,559 Speaker 5: Rams got it done, but like yardage yards per play, 1599 01:13:05,000 --> 01:13:08,519 Speaker 5: the way the drives were going, it all felt very close. 1600 01:13:08,600 --> 01:13:11,719 Speaker 5: The difference was the Rams offense stopped in the second 1601 01:13:11,800 --> 01:13:14,320 Speaker 5: half when they had a couple misconnections where there was 1602 01:13:14,479 --> 01:13:18,280 Speaker 5: a couple drops. One Stafford's a little late on a throw, 1603 01:13:18,439 --> 01:13:21,559 Speaker 5: another a drop bounces in the air and turns into 1604 01:13:21,600 --> 01:13:26,120 Speaker 5: an interception, and then the killer was uh Stafford's second interception, 1605 01:13:26,360 --> 01:13:29,800 Speaker 5: which Mark Sanchez in the booth blamed on Van Jefferson 1606 01:13:30,000 --> 01:13:33,040 Speaker 5: for kind of rounding off and fading on the route. 1607 01:13:33,040 --> 01:13:35,080 Speaker 5: I don't know if I'm smart enough to totally blame 1608 01:13:35,120 --> 01:13:36,599 Speaker 5: it on Van Jefferson, but I can't. 1609 01:13:36,439 --> 01:13:38,200 Speaker 1: Eat you else Sessler would have been able to diagnose. 1610 01:13:38,680 --> 01:13:39,320 Speaker 3: He would have. 1611 01:13:40,000 --> 01:13:43,280 Speaker 5: I can't say that whenever Matthew Stafford throws it to 1612 01:13:43,439 --> 01:13:46,880 Speaker 5: basically anyone but Van Jefferson Pukuinakua to too. At well, 1613 01:13:46,960 --> 01:13:50,120 Speaker 5: like great things happen, and he trusts those guys much 1614 01:13:50,120 --> 01:13:53,120 Speaker 5: more than he trusts Van Jefferson through two weeks when 1615 01:13:53,200 --> 01:13:56,280 Speaker 5: bad things happened. But beyond that, it's like, these two 1616 01:13:56,280 --> 01:13:59,439 Speaker 5: teams look like division rivals that are both a little spicy, 1617 01:13:59,479 --> 01:14:01,920 Speaker 5: that are fun and an evenly played game. 1618 01:14:02,680 --> 01:14:05,200 Speaker 4: Puka Nakua, by the way, twenty five catches in the 1619 01:14:05,200 --> 01:14:08,920 Speaker 4: first two games is easily the most by any rookie. 1620 01:14:09,520 --> 01:14:11,880 Speaker 1: Going back to that, that solves one problem for the Rams. 1621 01:14:11,880 --> 01:14:14,639 Speaker 2: They're like, who was our new number two receiver when 1622 01:14:14,640 --> 01:14:17,040 Speaker 2: Cooper Cup hopefully gets back in a few weeks, You 1623 01:14:17,080 --> 01:14:18,080 Speaker 2: got a nice one two punch. 1624 01:14:19,439 --> 01:14:21,479 Speaker 4: I would say that I was singing during this game 1625 01:14:21,560 --> 01:14:27,360 Speaker 4: like I spent six months kind of unnecessarily totally discounting 1626 01:14:27,760 --> 01:14:31,519 Speaker 4: the Rams as a concept, and like I'm totally wrong. 1627 01:14:31,680 --> 01:14:33,720 Speaker 4: I know I'm not alone, but I'm doing the great 1628 01:14:33,760 --> 01:14:36,000 Speaker 4: thing I'm saying. I thought that and couldn't have been 1629 01:14:36,280 --> 01:14:39,200 Speaker 4: more far off. Watch I should never have spoken magnanimous, like. 1630 01:14:39,120 --> 01:14:42,959 Speaker 5: It's a long season, like things things could change negatively 1631 01:14:42,960 --> 01:14:45,200 Speaker 5: for the Rams in theory, but I just don't see 1632 01:14:45,200 --> 01:14:47,960 Speaker 5: it offensively. And I actually thought despite the score, Raheem 1633 01:14:47,960 --> 01:14:50,400 Speaker 5: Morris called up a nice play and got more punts 1634 01:14:50,439 --> 01:14:52,120 Speaker 5: than I would have expected. Now, this is a lot 1635 01:14:52,120 --> 01:14:55,639 Speaker 5: of like giving of the flowers to the team that lost. 1636 01:14:55,720 --> 01:14:57,840 Speaker 5: Let's give Kyle Sanan some credit because at the end 1637 01:14:57,880 --> 01:15:00,559 Speaker 5: of the first half, I thought, the absolute key sequence 1638 01:15:00,880 --> 01:15:04,920 Speaker 5: of the game is the Rams score to go up. 1639 01:15:05,120 --> 01:15:07,519 Speaker 5: What was it seventeen ten at the time, and the 1640 01:15:07,560 --> 01:15:10,320 Speaker 5: forty nine ers get the ball back with only one 1641 01:15:10,439 --> 01:15:13,720 Speaker 5: forty five to go, They go down the field, they're aggressive, 1642 01:15:13,840 --> 01:15:16,599 Speaker 5: they get a long pass interference called Purdy had a 1643 01:15:16,760 --> 01:15:19,320 Speaker 5: pretty much perfect game, as Kyle Shannon pointed out, except 1644 01:15:19,320 --> 01:15:21,120 Speaker 5: he missed two or three open deep shots. 1645 01:15:21,160 --> 01:15:22,639 Speaker 3: That wasn't one of them. That was a penalty. 1646 01:15:22,760 --> 01:15:25,000 Speaker 5: We missed two or three open deep shots, otherwise played great, 1647 01:15:25,040 --> 01:15:29,360 Speaker 5: great movement decision making. All that Shanahan doesn't get touchdowns 1648 01:15:29,360 --> 01:15:32,639 Speaker 5: on his first two tries basically from the one yard 1649 01:15:32,680 --> 01:15:35,120 Speaker 5: line on throws they didn't have any time outs left 1650 01:15:35,120 --> 01:15:37,040 Speaker 5: though they were thrown and I was like, you got 1651 01:15:37,040 --> 01:15:38,840 Speaker 5: to just run it. Of course, the forty nine ers 1652 01:15:38,920 --> 01:15:40,639 Speaker 5: can get one yard I don't care if you don't 1653 01:15:40,640 --> 01:15:42,719 Speaker 5: have a timeout or not. You could run it on first, second, 1654 01:15:42,840 --> 01:15:45,280 Speaker 5: or third. You're the freaking forty nine ers. And Kyle Shannan, 1655 01:15:45,400 --> 01:15:47,800 Speaker 5: who's been so conservative over the years with his fourth 1656 01:15:47,800 --> 01:15:50,439 Speaker 5: down decisions, went for a big one last week, went 1657 01:15:50,439 --> 01:15:51,559 Speaker 5: for a big one this week. 1658 01:15:51,720 --> 01:15:52,280 Speaker 3: He got it. 1659 01:15:52,280 --> 01:15:54,720 Speaker 5: It was seventeen all, and I just thought that was 1660 01:15:55,120 --> 01:15:57,760 Speaker 5: such a crucial moment because the Rams needed to get 1661 01:15:57,800 --> 01:16:00,840 Speaker 5: every break possible. They couldn't lose this turnover battle two 1662 01:16:00,920 --> 01:16:02,320 Speaker 5: to nothing and give up that touchdown. 1663 01:16:02,360 --> 01:16:04,760 Speaker 4: And I think this would have been over earlier though, 1664 01:16:04,760 --> 01:16:07,559 Speaker 4: because You're party is just very consistent and you know, 1665 01:16:08,120 --> 01:16:11,320 Speaker 4: totally believe in him. But like the two misses the 1666 01:16:11,400 --> 01:16:14,040 Speaker 4: Juan Jennings on third and seven when it was tied 1667 01:16:14,120 --> 01:16:18,479 Speaker 4: seventeen seventeen, and the deeper shot to Brandon Ayuk that 1668 01:16:18,479 --> 01:16:20,360 Speaker 4: would have I think the game would have maybe just 1669 01:16:20,439 --> 01:16:24,599 Speaker 4: been less dramatic and over earlier. Sure, those two incompletions been. 1670 01:16:24,840 --> 01:16:26,240 Speaker 3: Sure you could look at it both ways. 1671 01:16:26,680 --> 01:16:29,320 Speaker 5: Absolutely, But the Kyrin Williams, who looked great by the way, 1672 01:16:29,400 --> 01:16:32,799 Speaker 5: cam Akers was benched for this game, why a like inactive. 1673 01:16:33,080 --> 01:16:34,479 Speaker 1: I can't do it anymore. I can't. 1674 01:16:34,680 --> 01:16:35,680 Speaker 4: It's this is not this. 1675 01:16:35,920 --> 01:16:38,120 Speaker 2: I have a note on that because I was watching 1676 01:16:38,160 --> 01:16:40,000 Speaker 2: the beginning of this telecast. 1677 01:16:40,160 --> 01:16:42,560 Speaker 5: I think I think at this point though he's not 1678 01:16:42,600 --> 01:16:45,080 Speaker 5: going to get his job back this year, I or 1679 01:16:45,120 --> 01:16:46,840 Speaker 5: I don't know why he would. Kiraen Williams to me 1680 01:16:46,920 --> 01:16:51,840 Speaker 5: looks like a nice ballplayer. This whole thing where I 1681 01:16:52,160 --> 01:16:54,320 Speaker 5: heard what they said if you were you got a paraphrase. 1682 01:16:54,840 --> 01:16:56,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, it was the sideline reporter for the Rams. 1683 01:16:56,760 --> 01:16:59,320 Speaker 2: I apologize to her for not having her name, but 1684 01:16:59,400 --> 01:17:01,640 Speaker 2: said that he was like adhering to the culture of 1685 01:17:01,680 --> 01:17:02,320 Speaker 2: the Rams. 1686 01:17:02,520 --> 01:17:05,720 Speaker 5: Yes, in terms of a count, he wasn't he And 1687 01:17:05,760 --> 01:17:09,679 Speaker 5: basically I think team attitude. I think he was upset 1688 01:17:09,960 --> 01:17:14,000 Speaker 5: because Kyron Williams played way more than he did UH 1689 01:17:14,640 --> 01:17:16,960 Speaker 5: a week ago, and that's the same reason why he 1690 01:17:17,000 --> 01:17:18,719 Speaker 5: was upset last year, he wasn't getting touches. 1691 01:17:19,120 --> 01:17:20,320 Speaker 3: It kind of slipped under the raider. 1692 01:17:20,360 --> 01:17:23,320 Speaker 5: But Kyrian Williams was the essentially the starter a week ago, 1693 01:17:23,360 --> 01:17:26,479 Speaker 5: even though he didn't start, and there was something to 1694 01:17:26,560 --> 01:17:29,120 Speaker 5: that effect. But it's like maybe just maybe just give 1695 01:17:29,200 --> 01:17:30,920 Speaker 5: up on him. But man, the things we thought that 1696 01:17:30,960 --> 01:17:32,439 Speaker 5: were good about the Rams week one, it wasn't a 1697 01:17:32,479 --> 01:17:35,040 Speaker 5: fluke to too out Well is actually more shocking to 1698 01:17:35,120 --> 01:17:38,439 Speaker 5: me that he's a real dude making contested catches. This 1699 01:17:38,479 --> 01:17:42,240 Speaker 5: little guy. I thought McVeigh was forcing him on the team. 1700 01:17:42,320 --> 01:17:44,840 Speaker 5: It was like mcveigh's pick. Everyone said it Now like 1701 01:17:44,960 --> 01:17:47,880 Speaker 5: thirteen catches one hundred and ninety six yards after two weeks. 1702 01:17:49,840 --> 01:17:52,320 Speaker 5: Who's that to too out Well Well? That the lightest 1703 01:17:52,320 --> 01:17:54,559 Speaker 5: player in the league, who did nothing through two years, 1704 01:17:54,600 --> 01:17:58,160 Speaker 5: And everyone including myself was wrong saying like he's only 1705 01:17:58,200 --> 01:18:01,679 Speaker 5: on this team because he's kind of fazed pet project. 1706 01:18:01,720 --> 01:18:04,559 Speaker 5: And here he is in the third season on time open, 1707 01:18:05,040 --> 01:18:08,120 Speaker 5: making really tough plays, like they have three receivers right 1708 01:18:08,120 --> 01:18:10,320 Speaker 5: now when they get cut back and Van Jefferson's gonna 1709 01:18:10,360 --> 01:18:11,559 Speaker 5: get the cam Akers treatment. 1710 01:18:11,560 --> 01:18:13,720 Speaker 2: I think to the point, well, you were saying too 1711 01:18:13,760 --> 01:18:16,280 Speaker 2: Mark that it's like Sean McVay knows what he's doing, 1712 01:18:16,439 --> 01:18:19,040 Speaker 2: so he's he's working through this. I get Nikua was 1713 01:18:19,080 --> 01:18:22,840 Speaker 2: targeted twenty times. Yeah, like twenty targets. That seems a 1714 01:18:22,840 --> 01:18:24,080 Speaker 2: little insane, but you know. 1715 01:18:24,080 --> 01:18:28,759 Speaker 4: Well, Williams have twenty eight catches in this game. 1716 01:18:29,320 --> 01:18:31,679 Speaker 5: I mean they were they were in deep catchup mode 1717 01:18:31,720 --> 01:18:34,400 Speaker 5: for a while in the fourth quarter, so that was 1718 01:18:34,439 --> 01:18:37,000 Speaker 5: part of it. But they were throwing, throwing early to 1719 01:18:37,280 --> 01:18:39,080 Speaker 5: Brandon Ayuk got a little shaken up in this game. 1720 01:18:39,120 --> 01:18:41,519 Speaker 5: That's something to watch. He played through it, but didn't 1721 01:18:41,560 --> 01:18:44,080 Speaker 5: seem as effective. And I think McCaffrey's is gonna like 1722 01:18:44,160 --> 01:18:45,559 Speaker 5: run for one hundred yards every single week. 1723 01:18:45,600 --> 01:18:47,720 Speaker 1: Stay healthy, kid, big journal energy here. 1724 01:18:47,880 --> 01:18:53,800 Speaker 2: Fox's Laura Akmen had that nugget on cam Akers not 1725 01:18:53,840 --> 01:18:57,080 Speaker 2: adhering to the culture. It's a good night games. Let's 1726 01:18:57,120 --> 01:19:01,880 Speaker 2: take a break and we'll continue on all right before 1727 01:19:01,920 --> 01:19:04,760 Speaker 2: we dive into the next game. I think it's important, 1728 01:19:04,800 --> 01:19:08,479 Speaker 2: Mark because it I think I know what angle you're going, 1729 01:19:08,520 --> 01:19:11,400 Speaker 2: but I just what is this. It's just it's you know, 1730 01:19:11,439 --> 01:19:13,960 Speaker 2: it's gonna be fun just to hear it. You said 1731 01:19:14,000 --> 01:19:16,040 Speaker 2: you were because you had lost your lock. You locked 1732 01:19:16,080 --> 01:19:20,080 Speaker 2: the chargers. Did you have something you wanted to share 1733 01:19:20,800 --> 01:19:24,840 Speaker 2: beyond frustration with just locking the chargers? Was there any 1734 01:19:25,000 --> 01:19:26,680 Speaker 2: any other comments you had? I can't remember if we 1735 01:19:26,680 --> 01:19:27,479 Speaker 2: didn't get to it or not. 1736 01:19:28,360 --> 01:19:31,640 Speaker 4: No, I basically said I'll never touch the charge was 1737 01:19:32,520 --> 01:19:36,479 Speaker 4: ever again for an okay? And I also have a 1738 01:19:36,520 --> 01:19:38,639 Speaker 4: strong feeling that I'm about to rip off like twelve 1739 01:19:38,720 --> 01:19:42,120 Speaker 4: to thirteen victories because this I was I maybe was 1740 01:19:42,160 --> 01:19:44,320 Speaker 4: dealing in, like in a pond of apathy to some 1741 01:19:44,400 --> 01:19:46,519 Speaker 4: degree about the lock things. It's just like, I don't know, 1742 01:19:46,520 --> 01:19:48,680 Speaker 4: it seems so impossible to pick these games. And now 1743 01:19:48,720 --> 01:19:52,320 Speaker 4: I'm irritated and I'm refocused on this. 1744 01:19:52,960 --> 01:19:55,960 Speaker 2: You sound like Aaron Rodgers saying, just doubt me. All 1745 01:19:56,000 --> 01:19:58,639 Speaker 2: the prognostications, give them, give them to me. I want 1746 01:19:58,680 --> 01:20:02,840 Speaker 2: them all. I welcome you to nice, I welcome us 1747 01:20:02,880 --> 01:20:04,560 Speaker 2: to move forward with the show. 1748 01:20:04,600 --> 01:20:05,280 Speaker 3: Real quick, guys. 1749 01:20:05,400 --> 01:20:08,800 Speaker 18: Yes, I forgot to cycle in a loser horn earlier 1750 01:20:08,800 --> 01:20:13,200 Speaker 18: in the segment during the Jets game, because if you 1751 01:20:13,200 --> 01:20:15,840 Speaker 18: guys recall, oh, yeah, the West Bros went a. 1752 01:20:15,760 --> 01:20:21,360 Speaker 1: Little West Bros, I'd say, bro hit the horn. 1753 01:20:21,439 --> 01:20:28,719 Speaker 2: The Cincinnati Zoo too is on fire. Big Westling completely rogue, 1754 01:20:28,960 --> 01:20:30,200 Speaker 2: and you know I love him for it. 1755 01:20:30,200 --> 01:20:31,320 Speaker 1: Because it's my team. 1756 01:20:31,360 --> 01:20:34,360 Speaker 2: But he locked up the jets, which was it led 1757 01:20:34,400 --> 01:20:36,880 Speaker 2: to some It got a little heated on the the 1758 01:20:36,920 --> 01:20:38,080 Speaker 2: Westling Brothers. 1759 01:20:37,760 --> 01:20:38,600 Speaker 1: Text thread that we're on. 1760 01:20:38,760 --> 01:20:41,000 Speaker 2: Understandably, one of the brothers said to the other that 1761 01:20:41,040 --> 01:20:43,519 Speaker 2: I wish that mother never conceived you. 1762 01:20:43,600 --> 01:20:45,720 Speaker 3: I mean it wasn't quite well. 1763 01:20:45,760 --> 01:20:49,880 Speaker 5: Phil said, just call it nicks picks, which seems fair. Yeah, brothers, 1764 01:20:50,400 --> 01:20:51,960 Speaker 5: it's got a little you know, sizzle to it. 1765 01:20:52,080 --> 01:20:52,719 Speaker 1: Next picks. 1766 01:20:53,320 --> 01:20:56,360 Speaker 3: But yes, I think I think Nick hit back hard 1767 01:20:56,479 --> 01:20:57,080 Speaker 3: that that. 1768 01:20:57,520 --> 01:20:59,040 Speaker 1: I wish you weren't born right something? 1769 01:20:59,720 --> 01:21:02,040 Speaker 5: He said that was the that was the conceit Well, 1770 01:21:02,040 --> 01:21:04,880 Speaker 5: Phil said, locket. Any team of Zach Wilson is irresponsible. 1771 01:21:05,160 --> 01:21:08,599 Speaker 5: Nick said your mom was irresponsible when she conceived you, which. 1772 01:21:08,360 --> 01:21:11,439 Speaker 3: Is funny because obviously it's his mom too. 1773 01:21:11,920 --> 01:21:14,120 Speaker 2: I think he wrote thanks, Well, yes we know, Greg, 1774 01:21:14,160 --> 01:21:15,760 Speaker 2: but I'm saying like that is. 1775 01:21:16,920 --> 01:21:20,800 Speaker 3: I mean, you just don't usually hear your response to brothers. 1776 01:21:20,560 --> 01:21:22,599 Speaker 2: And you have to know the Westling brothers to love them. 1777 01:21:22,640 --> 01:21:24,920 Speaker 2: To know them is to love them. His response to 1778 01:21:25,000 --> 01:21:26,280 Speaker 2: his brother was thanks, bro. 1779 01:21:26,439 --> 01:21:31,200 Speaker 4: Yeah. I think the rest of the zoo have a 1780 01:21:31,280 --> 01:21:34,840 Speaker 4: like a very viable, you know beef with Nick, who's 1781 01:21:34,880 --> 01:21:36,759 Speaker 4: completely going on the rails to pick. 1782 01:21:36,600 --> 01:21:40,960 Speaker 2: That you don't know, I don't know how you know 1783 01:21:41,160 --> 01:21:42,920 Speaker 2: how it all works, and we're gonna there's gonna be 1784 01:21:42,920 --> 01:21:47,560 Speaker 2: an incredible theology podcast down the line, maybe our last podcast. 1785 01:21:48,400 --> 01:21:50,800 Speaker 2: But if Chris hustling, if it works where you're in 1786 01:21:50,840 --> 01:21:52,800 Speaker 2: the clouds and you just get to like watch what's 1787 01:21:52,840 --> 01:21:53,160 Speaker 2: going on. 1788 01:21:53,240 --> 01:21:54,920 Speaker 1: First of all, scary thought, but. 1789 01:21:54,960 --> 01:21:58,000 Speaker 2: Second of all, he would be cackling his ass off 1790 01:21:58,120 --> 01:22:02,080 Speaker 2: just reading that thread of just World War three. 1791 01:22:02,240 --> 01:22:05,519 Speaker 5: I think he is loving the Wesleyan Brothers being non 1792 01:22:05,560 --> 01:22:07,439 Speaker 5: competitive for a fifth grade year. 1793 01:22:08,560 --> 01:22:09,519 Speaker 1: All right, let's move on. 1794 01:22:10,120 --> 01:22:13,240 Speaker 8: Trips right formation Digson Davis in a stack shack here 1795 01:22:13,320 --> 01:22:16,080 Speaker 8: inside of him, knocks on the left side, Cook to 1796 01:22:16,120 --> 01:22:17,679 Speaker 8: the left of Allen in the shotgun. 1797 01:22:19,520 --> 01:22:20,320 Speaker 4: Where's the snap? 1798 01:22:20,760 --> 01:22:23,960 Speaker 8: Has time gonna roll out to his right, Max Crossby 1799 01:22:24,000 --> 01:22:27,960 Speaker 8: in pursuit back across the field, complete the gape Davis 1800 01:22:27,960 --> 01:22:34,280 Speaker 8: for the touchdown fourth and gold, the jubior touchdown reception 1801 01:22:35,040 --> 01:22:37,439 Speaker 8: I gave Davis in traffic. 1802 01:22:37,360 --> 01:22:42,200 Speaker 2: Mercy, mercy like that Chris Brown with the call Bill's radio. 1803 01:22:43,760 --> 01:22:48,559 Speaker 2: The Josh Allen eulogies premature, I repeats Josh Allen death 1804 01:22:48,680 --> 01:22:53,599 Speaker 2: notices not necessary at this team at this time. Following 1805 01:22:53,640 --> 01:22:58,519 Speaker 2: a four turnover season opening dud via the Jets, Allen 1806 01:22:58,600 --> 01:22:59,200 Speaker 2: got back. 1807 01:23:00,280 --> 01:23:01,280 Speaker 1: Josh Allen got. 1808 01:23:01,080 --> 01:23:03,800 Speaker 2: His groove back almost perfect and a thirty eight to 1809 01:23:03,840 --> 01:23:08,160 Speaker 2: ten route of the Raiders in Orchard Park, perfect get 1810 01:23:08,240 --> 01:23:12,720 Speaker 2: right opponent for the Bills and setting for Buffalo. I 1811 01:23:12,880 --> 01:23:18,799 Speaker 2: counted boys just one capitol D capitol p dumb play 1812 01:23:19,400 --> 01:23:23,559 Speaker 2: for Josh, and this one it was a scramble, I believe, 1813 01:23:23,600 --> 01:23:28,200 Speaker 2: a second down scramble where he attempted to leap frog 1814 01:23:28,280 --> 01:23:33,599 Speaker 2: the entire Las Vegas defensive line for a touchdown, but 1815 01:23:33,680 --> 01:23:35,200 Speaker 2: he was at like the five yard line when he 1816 01:23:35,200 --> 01:23:35,720 Speaker 2: attempted it. 1817 01:23:36,200 --> 01:23:37,040 Speaker 3: He did the same thing. 1818 01:23:37,080 --> 01:23:39,599 Speaker 5: I mean, if you want to check out our special 1819 01:23:39,800 --> 01:23:42,400 Speaker 5: you know ex'es and know his breakdown of it on NFL. 1820 01:23:42,520 --> 01:23:44,559 Speaker 3: Yeslus, I'm sure that'll get you excited. 1821 01:23:45,040 --> 01:23:46,679 Speaker 1: Yes, he did it again. 1822 01:23:46,760 --> 01:23:50,599 Speaker 2: He didn't fumble though, and he didn't fumble last time 1823 01:23:50,600 --> 01:23:52,639 Speaker 2: either on that play, but no fumbles of any kind. 1824 01:23:52,880 --> 01:23:56,240 Speaker 2: He played very well, completed his first thirteen attempts. Kind 1825 01:23:56,280 --> 01:23:58,400 Speaker 2: of reined it in, but kind of how you would 1826 01:23:58,439 --> 01:24:01,000 Speaker 2: want as a Bills fan to rein it in, where 1827 01:24:01,080 --> 01:24:05,120 Speaker 2: he wasn't overly aggressive. He was or just insane like 1828 01:24:05,160 --> 01:24:08,240 Speaker 2: he was at the Meadowlands, but also was still Josh Allen. 1829 01:24:09,640 --> 01:24:12,120 Speaker 2: And that's his twenty first game of his career with 1830 01:24:12,160 --> 01:24:16,040 Speaker 2: at least three touchdown passes. So Buffalo dominated this game. 1831 01:24:16,080 --> 01:24:18,200 Speaker 2: They finished one hundred and eighty three yards rushing, even 1832 01:24:18,240 --> 01:24:19,920 Speaker 2: though Allen just had seven himself. 1833 01:24:20,800 --> 01:24:22,519 Speaker 1: James Cooko, I think it's looked really good. 1834 01:24:22,760 --> 01:24:25,080 Speaker 2: Looked great last week too, looked good against the Jets, 1835 01:24:25,080 --> 01:24:28,360 Speaker 2: and looked excellent here. One hundred and twenty three rushing yards, 1836 01:24:29,040 --> 01:24:34,240 Speaker 2: the most by a Bills running back since insert name 1837 01:24:34,280 --> 01:24:37,200 Speaker 2: here had one fifty six in December twenty seventeen. 1838 01:24:38,439 --> 01:24:43,280 Speaker 3: Fred No, Fred Jackson, Lashawn McCoy. Oh, that was way past. 1839 01:24:44,200 --> 01:24:46,799 Speaker 1: And the Bills cruise. So nice win for Buffalo. 1840 01:24:46,880 --> 01:24:49,960 Speaker 2: It didn't start great by the way the Raiders opening 1841 01:24:50,040 --> 01:24:54,240 Speaker 2: kickoff go right down the field for a touchdown, but 1842 01:24:54,280 --> 01:24:59,080 Speaker 2: the game changed pretty quickly after that, and I believe 1843 01:24:59,120 --> 01:25:04,080 Speaker 2: the Bills ran close to fifty plays in Vegas territory. 1844 01:25:03,600 --> 01:25:05,559 Speaker 1: In this game. Wow, that gives you an idea of Well. 1845 01:25:05,600 --> 01:25:07,479 Speaker 4: There's a couple of things that I that I love 1846 01:25:07,520 --> 01:25:11,680 Speaker 4: about this That McDermott was very aggressive on offense and 1847 01:25:11,720 --> 01:25:14,080 Speaker 4: went for a bunch of fourth downs and I think 1848 01:25:14,600 --> 01:25:16,960 Speaker 4: four of them, and I think that Allen and crew 1849 01:25:17,080 --> 01:25:21,160 Speaker 4: converted three. I like that the defense was nasty, and 1850 01:25:21,200 --> 01:25:23,080 Speaker 4: the one thing that is just jumping out of me 1851 01:25:23,160 --> 01:25:25,360 Speaker 4: is that if you are the Raiders and you're gonna 1852 01:25:25,360 --> 01:25:28,639 Speaker 4: try to sneak wins here and there, you cannot have 1853 01:25:29,160 --> 01:25:32,960 Speaker 4: Josh Jacobs running for negative two yards off nine carries. 1854 01:25:33,040 --> 01:25:37,040 Speaker 4: Had Trey Tucker a wide out not bolted out around 1855 01:25:37,160 --> 01:25:39,559 Speaker 4: the end for thirty four yards whatever that play was. 1856 01:25:39,800 --> 01:25:43,200 Speaker 4: They ran the ball for twenty twenty one yards today 1857 01:25:43,479 --> 01:25:45,480 Speaker 4: off of fourteen other attempts. 1858 01:25:45,720 --> 01:25:48,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, I get to that often struggles to run back. 1859 01:25:48,400 --> 01:25:50,760 Speaker 4: Like when they were effective last year, what was it? 1860 01:25:50,760 --> 01:25:52,559 Speaker 4: It was Josh Jacobs. A couple of games where they 1861 01:25:52,560 --> 01:25:56,160 Speaker 4: just hammered teams away. It's like, it's cool you held out. 1862 01:25:56,200 --> 01:25:57,640 Speaker 4: I'm sure you were working out. I don't know what 1863 01:25:57,680 --> 01:25:59,559 Speaker 4: you were doing. But it's like we have not gotten 1864 01:25:59,680 --> 01:26:01,840 Speaker 4: the verse of Josh Jacobs that they were hoping for, and. 1865 01:26:01,840 --> 01:26:04,639 Speaker 5: Especially not the run blocking because they have the same 1866 01:26:04,720 --> 01:26:06,400 Speaker 5: they have the same line back. I thought I was 1867 01:26:06,439 --> 01:26:08,160 Speaker 5: actually too quick to be hard on Jacobs when I 1868 01:26:08,200 --> 01:26:10,960 Speaker 5: rewatched that game last week. I thought he moved, while 1869 01:26:10,960 --> 01:26:13,599 Speaker 5: he did catch five for fifty one this week, but yeah, 1870 01:26:13,600 --> 01:26:15,920 Speaker 5: they're not going to exist unless they have a running game. 1871 01:26:15,960 --> 01:26:16,479 Speaker 3: And it's surprised. 1872 01:26:16,479 --> 01:26:18,360 Speaker 5: It was surprising when they brought back the exact same 1873 01:26:18,520 --> 01:26:21,439 Speaker 5: offensive line, but they also played one of the best 1874 01:26:21,640 --> 01:26:24,760 Speaker 5: teams in the NFL over the last three years, consistently 1875 01:26:26,040 --> 01:26:28,880 Speaker 5: as angry I think as they possibly could be, and 1876 01:26:29,240 --> 01:26:29,760 Speaker 5: played well. 1877 01:26:29,800 --> 01:26:32,360 Speaker 3: This was Yeah, remember four eight Get right game? 1878 01:26:32,400 --> 01:26:35,360 Speaker 2: Remember fours Whittaker in Fast Times the Regiment High after 1879 01:26:35,400 --> 01:26:40,639 Speaker 2: they jacked up his car, the rival high school. That's 1880 01:26:40,640 --> 01:26:42,360 Speaker 2: going to be one of his earliest roles too, and 1881 01:26:43,160 --> 01:26:45,840 Speaker 2: I get it, you know, poor standing up. 1882 01:26:46,360 --> 01:26:47,559 Speaker 3: That was before our time. 1883 01:26:47,680 --> 01:26:50,479 Speaker 2: To be fair, well, it was before our time, but 1884 01:26:50,520 --> 01:26:52,439 Speaker 2: it was on TV a lot because it was a 1885 01:26:52,479 --> 01:26:53,400 Speaker 2: classic of the genre. 1886 01:26:53,400 --> 01:26:54,519 Speaker 1: But that's beside the point. 1887 01:26:54,640 --> 01:26:56,920 Speaker 2: Whittaker was the star like he was like the Micaeh 1888 01:26:56,920 --> 01:26:59,360 Speaker 2: Parsons of their high school. And then after the rival 1889 01:26:59,400 --> 01:27:01,800 Speaker 2: high school jacks up his car, he just destroys the 1890 01:27:01,800 --> 01:27:04,439 Speaker 2: team and that kills everybody on the team. That's what 1891 01:27:04,479 --> 01:27:07,519 Speaker 2: I thought about the Bills in general. And Josh Jacobs, yes, 1892 01:27:08,080 --> 01:27:11,160 Speaker 2: negative two yards in this game according to Elias first 1893 01:27:11,160 --> 01:27:13,599 Speaker 2: time since the merger. That a defending rushing champion had 1894 01:27:13,640 --> 01:27:14,880 Speaker 2: negative yardage in a game. 1895 01:27:15,040 --> 01:27:15,679 Speaker 1: That's not good. 1896 01:27:15,720 --> 01:27:18,120 Speaker 2: And I know he didn't jump out in week one, 1897 01:27:18,520 --> 01:27:20,800 Speaker 2: but I would be curious like what the next gen 1898 01:27:21,840 --> 01:27:24,760 Speaker 2: yards over expected or whatever they call it would be 1899 01:27:24,840 --> 01:27:27,479 Speaker 2: for him there because there was nowhere to go. This 1900 01:27:27,560 --> 01:27:32,439 Speaker 2: game was a mad, angry Super Bowl contender that was 1901 01:27:32,479 --> 01:27:36,120 Speaker 2: getting right against an inferior opponent and you just saw that. 1902 01:27:36,240 --> 01:27:38,240 Speaker 2: So I think that there will be better days for 1903 01:27:38,320 --> 01:27:41,840 Speaker 2: the Raiders offense and this team, but they just I 1904 01:27:41,840 --> 01:27:44,280 Speaker 2: think ran into a buzzsaw in Buffalo. 1905 01:27:44,360 --> 01:27:45,720 Speaker 3: Not surprise the Bill's defense did it. 1906 01:27:45,720 --> 01:27:48,479 Speaker 5: I think it's a great sign even with the competition 1907 01:27:48,560 --> 01:27:51,400 Speaker 5: against the Raiders at the Bill's offense was that dominant 1908 01:27:51,439 --> 01:27:55,639 Speaker 5: after that first three and out, Like they've either scored 1909 01:27:55,680 --> 01:27:59,639 Speaker 5: a touchdown or reached the Vegas one on every single drive. 1910 01:28:00,720 --> 01:28:01,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's outrageous. 1911 01:28:02,120 --> 01:28:04,120 Speaker 5: That is pure domination until they ran out the clock 1912 01:28:04,120 --> 01:28:06,160 Speaker 5: at the end of the game. That is pure domination. 1913 01:28:06,439 --> 01:28:09,200 Speaker 5: And I'm curious what they're doing with Hunter Renfro, like 1914 01:28:09,200 --> 01:28:11,040 Speaker 5: he never plays for them anymore. And I know he 1915 01:28:11,080 --> 01:28:13,640 Speaker 5: didn't really more this yeah this week, but that he 1916 01:28:13,680 --> 01:28:14,720 Speaker 5: feels like a tree. 1917 01:28:14,479 --> 01:28:17,880 Speaker 4: After like months of speculation that he'd be moved. 1918 01:28:18,200 --> 01:28:21,479 Speaker 1: Yeah. Max Crosby, by the way, was totally taken out 1919 01:28:21,479 --> 01:28:23,120 Speaker 1: of this game. They missed the Raiders. 1920 01:28:23,200 --> 01:28:25,920 Speaker 2: Chandler Jones and we talked about that they have a 1921 01:28:25,920 --> 01:28:28,479 Speaker 2: lot of stars the Raiders, but the depths not there 1922 01:28:28,520 --> 01:28:30,120 Speaker 2: and you need some other people to step up. 1923 01:28:30,120 --> 01:28:32,080 Speaker 1: Although the only flying the ointment. 1924 01:28:32,439 --> 01:28:36,360 Speaker 2: That we were laughing at other people in our company 1925 01:28:36,360 --> 01:28:39,040 Speaker 2: that picked against Tamar Hamlin to be Comeback Player of 1926 01:28:39,040 --> 01:28:42,840 Speaker 2: the Year. So how could anyone even think to name 1927 01:28:42,880 --> 01:28:45,040 Speaker 2: another person the man that we rely died on the field. 1928 01:28:45,080 --> 01:28:47,759 Speaker 2: We laughed at you for being so foolish, not remembering 1929 01:28:47,800 --> 01:28:50,599 Speaker 2: recent NFL history. Is a healthy scratch for the second 1930 01:28:50,600 --> 01:28:52,880 Speaker 2: straight week. That could be the only way he doesn't 1931 01:28:52,880 --> 01:28:54,600 Speaker 2: get it. Well, it's got to play. He's got to 1932 01:28:54,600 --> 01:28:55,559 Speaker 2: be on the roster. 1933 01:28:55,680 --> 01:28:57,960 Speaker 4: There were whispers that like it was a tough thing, 1934 01:28:58,240 --> 01:29:01,080 Speaker 4: but maybe because they were deep it safety that maybe 1935 01:29:01,240 --> 01:29:02,960 Speaker 4: he doesn't make the team. But it's kind of like 1936 01:29:03,000 --> 01:29:04,840 Speaker 4: you can't do that, So maybe it's sort of that 1937 01:29:04,880 --> 01:29:07,760 Speaker 4: I think he's not He's not the top guy. 1938 01:29:07,920 --> 01:29:10,800 Speaker 5: If you look at the roster, it totally makes sense. 1939 01:29:10,880 --> 01:29:13,360 Speaker 5: It's their deepest position. I would say the deepest safety 1940 01:29:13,360 --> 01:29:15,000 Speaker 5: position in the league, and they probably weren't counting on 1941 01:29:15,080 --> 01:29:17,080 Speaker 5: him initially when they were building it. But based on 1942 01:29:17,120 --> 01:29:19,679 Speaker 5: the way he played last year as like a great 1943 01:29:19,720 --> 01:29:22,160 Speaker 5: filling starter and a like a plus special team or 1944 01:29:22,400 --> 01:29:24,800 Speaker 5: he'll play. He's just gonna need someone in front of him. 1945 01:29:24,840 --> 01:29:27,880 Speaker 5: Just say put it out. Someone has to get hurt 1946 01:29:27,880 --> 01:29:28,160 Speaker 5: and we. 1947 01:29:28,080 --> 01:29:29,680 Speaker 1: Need a couple of game day actives. That's all. 1948 01:29:30,400 --> 01:29:31,960 Speaker 4: That's a completely logical statement. 1949 01:29:32,000 --> 01:29:32,679 Speaker 1: Or maybe we don't. 1950 01:29:33,320 --> 01:29:36,680 Speaker 3: James Cook, he's gonna be the better Cook this year. 1951 01:29:36,720 --> 01:29:41,479 Speaker 2: Maybe ye, maybe Matt Mulano by the way, again, still 1952 01:29:41,640 --> 01:29:44,640 Speaker 2: another interception. He's just he does things in terms of 1953 01:29:44,640 --> 01:29:50,280 Speaker 2: playmaking ability that not many other linebackers can do. Let's 1954 01:29:50,800 --> 01:29:55,480 Speaker 2: move on. Let's head to our next location, which is Tampa. 1955 01:29:56,040 --> 01:29:59,599 Speaker 22: Bears an Orange. Don't give up the big play ball too. 1956 01:29:59,640 --> 01:30:03,080 Speaker 22: Lo hers to the left. People well number two DJ 1957 01:30:03,320 --> 01:30:08,880 Speaker 22: hole Fields takes the staff up of the God, looks 1958 01:30:08,920 --> 01:30:09,679 Speaker 22: up to you, throws. 1959 01:30:09,479 --> 01:30:13,599 Speaker 1: It all up. You picked off by Shack Parrot at 1960 01:30:13,600 --> 01:30:17,599 Speaker 1: the water. He's in for a touchdown. Touchdown, tapaway nursed 1961 01:30:17,600 --> 01:30:18,280 Speaker 1: the takeaway. 1962 01:30:18,560 --> 01:30:20,799 Speaker 6: Yeah, they tried to run. 1963 01:30:20,600 --> 01:30:21,679 Speaker 1: That screen again. 1964 01:30:22,360 --> 01:30:25,400 Speaker 7: Shack Parrett hung at the line of scrimmage and was able. 1965 01:30:25,160 --> 01:30:27,799 Speaker 3: To snatch it one handed, and I got. 1966 01:30:27,560 --> 01:30:29,560 Speaker 1: Some help from his buddies and pushed him in the 1967 01:30:29,640 --> 01:30:32,080 Speaker 1: end zone. 1968 01:30:32,600 --> 01:30:41,320 Speaker 23: Jdeggar off wf us Shaq Barrett exclamation point on the 1969 01:30:41,439 --> 01:30:46,519 Speaker 23: victory for the Bucks to take it twenty seven to seventeen. 1970 01:30:46,360 --> 01:30:49,240 Speaker 1: Over the troubled like a troubled team. 1971 01:30:50,040 --> 01:30:53,960 Speaker 2: Troubled Chicago Bears fall twenty seven to seventeen on a 1972 01:30:54,040 --> 01:30:58,559 Speaker 2: day where Greg Baker again was cooking here and taking 1973 01:30:58,600 --> 01:31:01,400 Speaker 2: advantage of a Bear's team that isn't really gonna stop 1974 01:31:01,439 --> 01:31:02,080 Speaker 2: anybody right. 1975 01:31:02,000 --> 01:31:02,800 Speaker 3: Now, They're not. 1976 01:31:03,439 --> 01:31:09,720 Speaker 5: Baker was the more consistent, comfortable, don't say it, decisive, 1977 01:31:10,240 --> 01:31:13,799 Speaker 5: Oh no quarterback in this game, making big time plays. 1978 01:31:13,920 --> 01:31:16,080 Speaker 3: I mean his life is yes. 1979 01:31:16,360 --> 01:31:19,000 Speaker 2: This is justin Fields year three. We can't be saying 1980 01:31:19,000 --> 01:31:20,960 Speaker 2: that anymore? Well, are we saying that? 1981 01:31:21,479 --> 01:31:22,599 Speaker 4: Going off in the news month. 1982 01:31:22,720 --> 01:31:25,280 Speaker 5: I was really enjoying Baker Mayfield's performance because I can't 1983 01:31:25,280 --> 01:31:27,599 Speaker 5: remember him playing so smart and composed a long time. 1984 01:31:27,640 --> 01:31:29,400 Speaker 5: You got to give Dave Kanalis, who was with Gino 1985 01:31:29,479 --> 01:31:33,479 Speaker 5: last year, some credit here, but to compare the two. 1986 01:31:35,080 --> 01:31:37,960 Speaker 5: If Fields was on the Bucks, I kind of have 1987 01:31:38,120 --> 01:31:43,040 Speaker 5: no real doubt that he would be outperforming Baker Mayfield. 1988 01:31:43,080 --> 01:31:46,240 Speaker 5: I mean justin Fields for the most part didn't. He 1989 01:31:46,400 --> 01:31:49,360 Speaker 5: was very He was up and down today, but they 1990 01:31:49,360 --> 01:31:51,240 Speaker 5: don't know. They don't have a consistent running game that 1991 01:31:51,240 --> 01:31:54,960 Speaker 5: they stuck with. The defense is a total shambles, and 1992 01:31:55,840 --> 01:32:00,840 Speaker 5: like there's nothing that makes sense consistently on that. He's 1993 01:32:00,880 --> 01:32:03,080 Speaker 5: getting it in his head that like, this is my game, 1994 01:32:03,120 --> 01:32:05,400 Speaker 5: I'm not gonna run and we're not gonna call any 1995 01:32:05,439 --> 01:32:07,720 Speaker 5: design runs. That doesn't make any sense either, and hes 1996 01:32:07,720 --> 01:32:09,439 Speaker 5: stuck in the bucket. He made some really bad plays, 1997 01:32:09,479 --> 01:32:11,639 Speaker 5: but that wasn't one of them. That was James Harrison 1998 01:32:11,680 --> 01:32:13,960 Speaker 5: in the Super Bowl burning Kurt wardon. That was a 1999 01:32:14,000 --> 01:32:16,519 Speaker 5: great play by Shaq Barrett, and the other interception came 2000 01:32:16,880 --> 01:32:19,200 Speaker 5: on a contested catch when they were down ten. 2001 01:32:19,240 --> 01:32:20,200 Speaker 3: In the final drive. 2002 01:32:20,280 --> 01:32:22,519 Speaker 5: He had ups and downs, but the sad thing about 2003 01:32:22,560 --> 01:32:24,719 Speaker 5: that was he was coming off by far his best 2004 01:32:24,800 --> 01:32:26,679 Speaker 5: drive of the year, where he got them to within 2005 01:32:26,760 --> 01:32:29,160 Speaker 5: three points, and then the Bucks got a little conservative 2006 01:32:29,200 --> 01:32:30,800 Speaker 5: the next drive and then it was like here we go, 2007 01:32:30,880 --> 01:32:33,519 Speaker 5: two plus minutes to go. Fields has to drive to 2008 01:32:34,000 --> 01:32:35,960 Speaker 5: tie the game, and that's the first play and it 2009 01:32:36,000 --> 01:32:37,519 Speaker 5: was just the air being let out of the balloon, 2010 01:32:37,520 --> 01:32:39,759 Speaker 5: and it just feels like this Bears season is cursed. 2011 01:32:39,760 --> 01:32:40,439 Speaker 3: Two games in. 2012 01:32:41,000 --> 01:32:43,200 Speaker 2: Twelfth consecutive a loss for the Bears dating back to 2013 01:32:43,280 --> 01:32:46,519 Speaker 2: last season. It's a proud organization that's been around since 2014 01:32:46,600 --> 01:32:47,519 Speaker 2: the very beginning. 2015 01:32:47,920 --> 01:32:49,280 Speaker 1: That's a franchise. 2016 01:32:48,840 --> 01:32:50,920 Speaker 3: Records what what what? 2017 01:32:51,720 --> 01:32:52,200 Speaker 1: Yeah? 2018 01:32:52,520 --> 01:32:56,240 Speaker 4: I saw people comparing like the Baker Mayfield Mike Evans 2019 01:32:58,000 --> 01:33:02,400 Speaker 4: chemistry to what Evans had with Johnny Manzel back in college. 2020 01:33:02,400 --> 01:33:05,160 Speaker 4: But but I'd say this though, it's like it's certainly well, 2021 01:33:05,160 --> 01:33:07,439 Speaker 4: it's like it's certainly better than what we saw with 2022 01:33:07,520 --> 01:33:08,799 Speaker 4: Tom Brady, a kind. 2023 01:33:08,680 --> 01:33:11,640 Speaker 5: Of undersized quarterback who's like athletic but not quite an 2024 01:33:11,720 --> 01:33:12,400 Speaker 5: NFL after. 2025 01:33:12,280 --> 01:33:14,360 Speaker 2: But do you remember how frustrating, like we don't need 2026 01:33:14,479 --> 01:33:17,080 Speaker 2: we don't need to do that, But how frustrating was 2027 01:33:17,160 --> 01:33:19,479 Speaker 2: the Mike Evans tom Brady connection a year ago? 2028 01:33:19,680 --> 01:33:21,240 Speaker 1: Last year disjointed? 2029 01:33:21,280 --> 01:33:23,960 Speaker 4: I mean, I gotta get big or some credit because 2030 01:33:23,960 --> 01:33:26,760 Speaker 4: two games in a row, like you're getting this. He's 2031 01:33:26,800 --> 01:33:29,599 Speaker 4: such a variance factor, like you're getting the better version 2032 01:33:29,640 --> 01:33:32,320 Speaker 4: of so it's like good coaching or like he's grown 2033 01:33:33,160 --> 01:33:35,280 Speaker 4: mentally and not making some of the same decisions he 2034 01:33:35,360 --> 01:33:35,640 Speaker 4: used to. 2035 01:33:35,760 --> 01:33:38,400 Speaker 5: I mean, it helps one hundred percent that he played 2036 01:33:38,840 --> 01:33:42,640 Speaker 5: the Bears this week and who did they play in 2037 01:33:42,640 --> 01:33:46,160 Speaker 5: the vikings a week ago? But yeah, despite that, he's 2038 01:33:46,200 --> 01:33:48,639 Speaker 5: made he's played two pretty perfect games. 2039 01:33:48,720 --> 01:33:50,040 Speaker 3: This one was even better. 2040 01:33:50,600 --> 01:33:53,600 Speaker 5: Like he had a throw where he's rolling to his 2041 01:33:53,720 --> 01:33:57,080 Speaker 5: left and throws it up to Evans's beautiful throw. The 2042 01:33:57,439 --> 01:33:59,960 Speaker 5: long Evans play was an arm strength type of thing 2043 01:34:00,240 --> 01:34:02,280 Speaker 5: that the ball got there so quick that they couldn't 2044 01:34:02,280 --> 01:34:05,280 Speaker 5: react to it. Evans does look better this year. He's dinner, 2045 01:34:05,280 --> 01:34:07,559 Speaker 5: he's he's moving great. He has six for one untrack 2046 01:34:07,680 --> 01:34:09,920 Speaker 5: one and then there was one and this is where 2047 01:34:10,120 --> 01:34:11,760 Speaker 5: he won't get her away with it every play, and 2048 01:34:11,800 --> 01:34:13,360 Speaker 5: it was like the most Baker play of the game 2049 01:34:13,479 --> 01:34:17,160 Speaker 5: where he throws it sidearm wall falling down like a 2050 01:34:17,280 --> 01:34:19,840 Speaker 5: half inch of his knee above the ground and he 2051 01:34:19,920 --> 01:34:22,040 Speaker 5: hits it to set up like a closer field goal. 2052 01:34:22,080 --> 01:34:23,800 Speaker 5: That's not gonna happen every week. But he really is 2053 01:34:23,840 --> 01:34:25,120 Speaker 5: playing smart. 2054 01:34:24,800 --> 01:34:27,360 Speaker 2: And he's on a cler he's on a heater, and 2055 01:34:27,360 --> 01:34:28,920 Speaker 2: that's what makes him fun to watch. When he's on 2056 01:34:28,960 --> 01:34:31,719 Speaker 2: these I guess it's screaming to me, small sample size 2057 01:34:32,800 --> 01:34:35,000 Speaker 2: and this is not going to continue all year. I'll 2058 01:34:35,040 --> 01:34:37,080 Speaker 2: be the first one, I guarantee you guys to admit it. 2059 01:34:37,120 --> 01:34:39,160 Speaker 2: If Baker's doing this a month from now, then I'll 2060 01:34:39,200 --> 01:34:41,559 Speaker 2: be like, I'm shocked, But I need to see it 2061 01:34:41,600 --> 01:34:45,760 Speaker 2: against other than the Vikings and today's opponents. 2062 01:34:45,880 --> 01:34:48,439 Speaker 5: I'm I've I think killed Baker more than anyone on 2063 01:34:48,479 --> 01:34:50,720 Speaker 5: this podcast and not really been impressed with how he 2064 01:34:50,760 --> 01:34:51,799 Speaker 5: plays football. 2065 01:34:51,840 --> 01:34:53,280 Speaker 3: I've just been pleasantly surprised. 2066 01:34:53,280 --> 01:34:55,200 Speaker 5: I'm with you, but it gives me hope that maybe 2067 01:34:55,200 --> 01:34:58,320 Speaker 5: there's a medium here where he can be a little 2068 01:34:58,400 --> 01:35:01,280 Speaker 5: closer to like where a Geno Smith was a year ago, 2069 01:35:01,360 --> 01:35:02,559 Speaker 5: and give this Bucks team a chance. 2070 01:35:02,600 --> 01:35:04,439 Speaker 1: They are hang around of the division. If if he 2071 01:35:04,479 --> 01:35:05,360 Speaker 1: could do that, they will. 2072 01:35:05,800 --> 01:35:06,960 Speaker 3: They are to tozer. 2073 01:35:07,040 --> 01:35:10,720 Speaker 5: And I do want to tell Rashad White, who we 2074 01:35:10,800 --> 01:35:14,840 Speaker 5: really got on for his expected yards just compared to 2075 01:35:14,880 --> 01:35:18,320 Speaker 5: replacement the Hooding seventeen for seventy three today. I haven't 2076 01:35:18,320 --> 01:35:20,519 Speaker 5: looked at the numbers, but I think he ran quite well. 2077 01:35:20,600 --> 01:35:22,320 Speaker 4: I did well Bear's defense. 2078 01:35:22,360 --> 01:35:24,320 Speaker 1: But yes, you checked the yards over it. 2079 01:35:24,439 --> 01:35:24,559 Speaker 15: OK. 2080 01:35:26,520 --> 01:35:28,920 Speaker 5: I gotta say I did rewatch that game last week 2081 01:35:28,960 --> 01:35:31,160 Speaker 5: with that with that in mind, and he did leave 2082 01:35:31,200 --> 01:35:32,240 Speaker 5: a lot of yards on the field. 2083 01:35:32,240 --> 01:35:33,280 Speaker 3: There was a lot There was a lot. 2084 01:35:33,439 --> 01:35:35,799 Speaker 4: You were going to have like roaming mobs of criminal 2085 01:35:35,880 --> 01:35:39,600 Speaker 4: children in Chicago if this continues like you there just 2086 01:35:39,760 --> 01:35:40,320 Speaker 4: can't continue. 2087 01:35:40,400 --> 01:35:42,200 Speaker 5: Jakwan Brisker got hurt in this game. He was in 2088 01:35:42,240 --> 01:35:44,240 Speaker 5: and out. Eddie Jackson got hurt in this game. He 2089 01:35:44,320 --> 01:35:47,719 Speaker 5: was gone, so like a bad secondary lost more players, 2090 01:35:47,760 --> 01:35:48,519 Speaker 5: so that that was bad. 2091 01:35:48,600 --> 01:35:52,640 Speaker 1: We don't need that. Chicago doesn't need roaming mobs of children. 2092 01:35:52,720 --> 01:35:57,639 Speaker 4: Criminal children, criminals, bad intentions towards anything labeled Chicago bear. 2093 01:35:58,760 --> 01:36:00,120 Speaker 1: Do you want to see up Todd ball? 2094 01:36:01,280 --> 01:36:05,599 Speaker 5: I would, because all these you guys laughing about Todd Bowles. 2095 01:36:05,720 --> 01:36:09,160 Speaker 5: He still got Shaq Barrett, there, Levante David making plays. 2096 01:36:09,640 --> 01:36:12,120 Speaker 5: Winfield had a great game, and then you have the 2097 01:36:12,240 --> 01:36:15,040 Speaker 5: spirit of Todd Bowles getting the whole city at Tampa 2098 01:36:15,120 --> 01:36:16,320 Speaker 5: excited after the game. 2099 01:36:16,400 --> 01:36:16,960 Speaker 1: Let's hear this. 2100 01:36:17,360 --> 01:36:19,560 Speaker 24: Stars played big. We did a good job holding the 2101 01:36:19,600 --> 01:36:21,920 Speaker 24: ball keeping them out there. Obviously would like to be 2102 01:36:21,920 --> 01:36:24,280 Speaker 24: better in the red zone, but the most part we 2103 01:36:24,320 --> 01:36:27,240 Speaker 24: were operating running past. Game was pretty balanced that way. 2104 01:36:27,439 --> 01:36:29,320 Speaker 24: We had a good time of possession. We just got 2105 01:36:29,320 --> 01:36:32,240 Speaker 24: to punch him. Man got a field goal block. That's 2106 01:36:32,280 --> 01:36:34,960 Speaker 24: not a good thing. It wasn't perfect. Start to jail 2107 01:36:35,479 --> 01:36:37,840 Speaker 24: and win while we're yelling for us. 2108 01:36:38,080 --> 01:36:41,080 Speaker 3: Let's go Tampa, Let's go. I couldn't listen to that 2109 01:36:41,120 --> 01:36:42,600 Speaker 3: for fifteen You. 2110 01:36:42,560 --> 01:36:43,200 Speaker 1: Could see them. 2111 01:36:43,320 --> 01:36:46,160 Speaker 4: What a rousing impath they have as head coach, Greg 2112 01:36:46,320 --> 01:36:47,680 Speaker 4: Why did you do that to all of us? 2113 01:36:47,760 --> 01:36:48,639 Speaker 3: I think it was fun. 2114 01:36:49,000 --> 01:36:51,200 Speaker 5: He went for another fourth down today, by the way, 2115 01:36:51,320 --> 01:36:53,639 Speaker 5: and he got it good new balls. 2116 01:36:53,760 --> 01:36:57,400 Speaker 2: That's just doing what other coaches should be doing. Let's 2117 01:36:57,600 --> 01:37:00,479 Speaker 2: close things out with the trip Houston. 2118 01:37:00,720 --> 01:37:02,920 Speaker 1: It's a fumble recovery for Indianapolis. 2119 01:37:03,400 --> 01:37:05,519 Speaker 22: The call in the field was overturned, so the Colts 2120 01:37:05,560 --> 01:37:07,800 Speaker 22: have a fumble recovery and they take over at the 2121 01:37:07,800 --> 01:37:09,120 Speaker 22: Houston fifteen. 2122 01:37:08,800 --> 01:37:10,679 Speaker 4: Yard line, and running right. 2123 01:37:10,600 --> 01:37:14,200 Speaker 1: Side is Anthony Richardson. Fake the reverse, turns the corner. 2124 01:37:14,000 --> 01:37:15,400 Speaker 3: He's in touchdown. 2125 01:37:15,840 --> 01:37:16,480 Speaker 1: Touchdown. 2126 01:37:17,400 --> 01:37:22,040 Speaker 16: Indeed, why three rushing touchdowns in the first two games 2127 01:37:22,320 --> 01:37:25,599 Speaker 16: for Anthony Richardson. He faked the reverse and then took 2128 01:37:25,640 --> 01:37:28,160 Speaker 16: it off right side into the end zone from. 2129 01:37:28,040 --> 01:37:29,280 Speaker 1: Fifteen yards out. 2130 01:37:29,439 --> 01:37:32,320 Speaker 16: And the Colts have two touchdowns on their first two 2131 01:37:32,439 --> 01:37:33,360 Speaker 16: drives of the game. 2132 01:37:34,760 --> 01:37:37,880 Speaker 2: Kit or sweet there, Matt Taylor, good call, w f 2133 01:37:38,160 --> 01:37:43,640 Speaker 2: n Y Anthony Richardson the rookie rush for two touchdowns. Fortunately, 2134 01:37:43,680 --> 01:37:47,280 Speaker 2: On that play they believe or it's possible and quite 2135 01:37:47,320 --> 01:37:50,160 Speaker 2: likely probable. When he gets knocked to the turf in 2136 01:37:50,200 --> 01:37:52,040 Speaker 2: the end zone, he bangs the back of his helmet, 2137 01:37:52,680 --> 01:37:57,840 Speaker 2: which leads to his inability to pass concussion protocol, so 2138 01:37:57,920 --> 01:38:00,519 Speaker 2: he exits in the second quarter, does not come back. 2139 01:38:01,200 --> 01:38:04,320 Speaker 2: Gardner Minshew through four hundred and seventy one yards and 2140 01:38:04,320 --> 01:38:06,760 Speaker 2: a touchdown and relief, and the Colts coast to a 2141 01:38:06,800 --> 01:38:08,639 Speaker 2: thirty one to twenty win over the Texans. 2142 01:38:08,680 --> 01:38:11,480 Speaker 1: That's the first victory for Shane. 2143 01:38:11,120 --> 01:38:14,960 Speaker 2: Steichen and I am in on the Colts early on 2144 01:38:15,000 --> 01:38:17,519 Speaker 2: this season. I like what Stikeen's brought to this offense, 2145 01:38:17,920 --> 01:38:20,800 Speaker 2: a lot of Henry in Philadelphia, although I thought they 2146 01:38:20,800 --> 01:38:23,839 Speaker 2: looked better on Thursday Night. Overall about what Steiken's presence 2147 01:38:23,960 --> 01:38:26,679 Speaker 2: or absence means there, but I certainly see a difference 2148 01:38:27,120 --> 01:38:30,680 Speaker 2: with the Colts and the richardson side of it. Now 2149 01:38:30,680 --> 01:38:35,080 Speaker 2: it is two games he's played electrifying plays in both games. 2150 01:38:35,360 --> 01:38:37,639 Speaker 1: Two games he's exited with an injury. So it's something 2151 01:38:37,680 --> 01:38:38,240 Speaker 1: to watch. 2152 01:38:38,920 --> 01:38:41,400 Speaker 2: But overall, if you're a Colts fan, you're loving the 2153 01:38:41,439 --> 01:38:44,360 Speaker 2: trajectory here because the team is compelling and watchable. 2154 01:38:44,400 --> 01:38:48,760 Speaker 4: Right now, they are but the one thing about Richardson 2155 01:38:48,760 --> 01:38:51,880 Speaker 4: in general, it's like we don't have a simple size 2156 01:38:51,920 --> 01:38:55,760 Speaker 4: from any real tier of his career, and I guess 2157 01:38:55,760 --> 01:38:59,800 Speaker 4: you wouldn't go past beyond college, but like his style 2158 01:38:59,840 --> 01:39:02,280 Speaker 4: of and I kind of hate these arguments because I think, 2159 01:39:02,280 --> 01:39:04,360 Speaker 4: like it's always like, oh, Lamar Jackson's your only running 2160 01:39:04,360 --> 01:39:06,960 Speaker 4: the ball too much? Yawn, But like, like it's it's 2161 01:39:07,000 --> 01:39:09,559 Speaker 4: like you don't know how durable Richardson's body is. He's 2162 01:39:09,600 --> 01:39:12,800 Speaker 4: a giant, guys, powerful, he's physical. Two NFL games in 2163 01:39:12,800 --> 01:39:15,880 Speaker 4: a row, like you leave the game concerned about his health. 2164 01:39:15,800 --> 01:39:17,799 Speaker 2: Near the goal line where he's kind of selling himself 2165 01:39:17,800 --> 01:39:22,360 Speaker 2: out to score. Yeah, I think he's six three to six, 2166 01:39:24,200 --> 01:39:26,360 Speaker 2: And it's like, so it's not an issue of him 2167 01:39:26,520 --> 01:39:28,439 Speaker 2: his body size wise not being able to take the hits, 2168 01:39:28,479 --> 01:39:29,479 Speaker 2: but he's gonna take licks. 2169 01:39:29,760 --> 01:39:30,839 Speaker 1: And it's just unfortunate. 2170 01:39:30,880 --> 01:39:33,639 Speaker 2: And hopefully this is just an outlier and he'll play 2171 01:39:33,680 --> 01:39:36,160 Speaker 2: this upcoming week and and you won't have to be 2172 01:39:36,200 --> 01:39:39,360 Speaker 2: talking about this every week, because really the best case 2173 01:39:39,360 --> 01:39:42,960 Speaker 2: scenario here for the Colts is Richardson stays healthy and stiking, 2174 01:39:43,040 --> 01:39:46,960 Speaker 2: and Richardson continue to grow something here, and hell, maybe 2175 01:39:47,040 --> 01:39:50,479 Speaker 2: Jonathan Taylor comes back and you have something really cooking 2176 01:39:50,520 --> 01:39:53,559 Speaker 2: with this offense, which is had it had its way 2177 01:39:53,600 --> 01:39:57,320 Speaker 2: here with Houston, they only they had an eighteen point 2178 01:39:57,400 --> 01:40:00,479 Speaker 2: lead at halftime. They manage one field goal after after that, 2179 01:40:00,520 --> 01:40:02,120 Speaker 2: but it didn't matter because the game was. 2180 01:40:02,080 --> 01:40:05,559 Speaker 5: Over and Gardner Minshew came in and kept moving the 2181 01:40:05,560 --> 01:40:08,880 Speaker 5: ball with him. And that's why with a concussion and 2182 01:40:08,920 --> 01:40:12,360 Speaker 5: a rookie quarterback, like you don't need to push him 2183 01:40:12,360 --> 01:40:14,880 Speaker 5: to play next week. If he's coming off a concussion, 2184 01:40:14,920 --> 01:40:17,320 Speaker 5: you can. You just got to be thinking long term. 2185 01:40:17,400 --> 01:40:21,200 Speaker 5: Gardner Minshew's starting is just fine for a week. I 2186 01:40:21,240 --> 01:40:26,679 Speaker 5: thought you noted on Twitter Dan that Richardson self reported, 2187 01:40:26,840 --> 01:40:31,320 Speaker 5: which is concerning that that's even necessary because you know, 2188 01:40:31,360 --> 01:40:33,960 Speaker 5: he's a guy in a very highly visible play. It 2189 01:40:34,120 --> 01:40:37,960 Speaker 5: was head slams against the turf and did he stay 2190 01:40:37,960 --> 01:40:40,400 Speaker 5: in the game for a little longer self report? 2191 01:40:40,840 --> 01:40:41,080 Speaker 1: Did? 2192 01:40:41,280 --> 01:40:44,840 Speaker 5: I mean that's an NFL total failure, Like we spent 2193 01:40:44,880 --> 01:40:46,880 Speaker 5: a week on two a tongue of Iiloa because it 2194 01:40:46,920 --> 01:40:48,840 Speaker 5: was just more dramatic, but it's the exact same thing. 2195 01:40:49,200 --> 01:40:49,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, it was. 2196 01:40:50,160 --> 01:40:52,479 Speaker 2: It was I guess tricky because there was I'm trying 2197 01:40:52,479 --> 01:40:54,599 Speaker 2: to think there was something else going on immediately after 2198 01:40:54,640 --> 01:40:57,599 Speaker 2: the play. Maybe he's a scrum that that directed other 2199 01:40:57,600 --> 01:41:00,439 Speaker 2: people's attention away from it. And even after he hits 2200 01:41:00,439 --> 01:41:02,400 Speaker 2: his head on the turf, he pops straight up. He 2201 01:41:02,479 --> 01:41:04,439 Speaker 2: does like a backye crolling. He's got his arms up 2202 01:41:04,439 --> 01:41:07,400 Speaker 2: and he's jogging him back. But obviously there were cobwebs 2203 01:41:07,439 --> 01:41:11,240 Speaker 2: and some issues cognitively that that were building or sustained 2204 01:41:11,560 --> 01:41:15,600 Speaker 2: after that moment, So I get that. I also I 2205 01:41:15,640 --> 01:41:18,000 Speaker 2: think sometimes it's it's quick to just say, look at 2206 01:41:18,000 --> 01:41:18,639 Speaker 2: the system failed. 2207 01:41:18,640 --> 01:41:19,200 Speaker 1: There's supposed to. 2208 01:41:19,160 --> 01:41:21,519 Speaker 2: Be a spot her on the sideline, But you're also 2209 01:41:21,520 --> 01:41:24,479 Speaker 2: if he's not woozy, if if he's it doesn't appear 2210 01:41:24,560 --> 01:41:26,559 Speaker 2: that he took a bad shot, how do you really 2211 01:41:26,720 --> 01:41:27,400 Speaker 2: It's hard to know. 2212 01:41:27,439 --> 01:41:29,200 Speaker 1: It's it's always going to be difficult. 2213 01:41:29,240 --> 01:41:31,759 Speaker 5: And I think that because you see so many plays 2214 01:41:31,840 --> 01:41:35,280 Speaker 5: every game that someone's head slams on the ground. Yeah, 2215 01:41:35,360 --> 01:41:37,880 Speaker 5: it's like you should be checking a lot of them, 2216 01:41:37,880 --> 01:41:39,120 Speaker 5: and they're they're not checking. 2217 01:41:39,280 --> 01:41:41,120 Speaker 1: Like Josh Allen got hit on a head to head. 2218 01:41:41,240 --> 01:41:45,120 Speaker 2: You saw it eric a scramble where he again he 2219 01:41:45,240 --> 01:41:47,280 Speaker 2: probably should have gotten down, but then a second guy 2220 01:41:47,320 --> 01:41:49,719 Speaker 2: came in and smoked him and they threw the flag 2221 01:41:49,800 --> 01:41:52,640 Speaker 2: on it, and that's a helmet to helmet shot, and 2222 01:41:53,160 --> 01:41:55,719 Speaker 2: you know where should the game stop down there? 2223 01:41:55,920 --> 01:41:57,920 Speaker 1: Like how do you play? How do you play this? 2224 01:41:58,880 --> 01:41:59,720 Speaker 3: Or just take him out? 2225 01:41:59,840 --> 01:42:01,799 Speaker 4: It's a lot of it. Let's be real, it's optics 2226 01:42:01,840 --> 01:42:05,280 Speaker 4: because head collisions and stuff like this is happening every 2227 01:42:05,320 --> 01:42:07,960 Speaker 4: play to different positions. But when it's quarterback and we 2228 01:42:08,000 --> 01:42:10,920 Speaker 4: see something visibly that looks wrong, and it's like we're saying, 2229 01:42:10,920 --> 01:42:13,479 Speaker 4: oh a lot, a lot happened after the play. That's 2230 01:42:13,600 --> 01:42:16,439 Speaker 4: that's fine if coaches didn't see it or someone else, 2231 01:42:16,479 --> 01:42:18,920 Speaker 4: but like they have people designated to look for this. 2232 01:42:19,520 --> 01:42:20,519 Speaker 4: What was going on there? 2233 01:42:21,720 --> 01:42:24,280 Speaker 1: Well, like I said, he was showing those outward signs initially, 2234 01:42:24,280 --> 01:42:24,720 Speaker 1: is what I'm saying. 2235 01:42:24,720 --> 01:42:27,120 Speaker 4: I think it's just it's a tough judgment call in general, 2236 01:42:27,160 --> 01:42:28,680 Speaker 4: but like I don't know part of it is. I 2237 01:42:28,720 --> 01:42:30,320 Speaker 4: think what happened with TWA last year was like it 2238 01:42:30,320 --> 01:42:33,840 Speaker 4: became this inflame scenario. So it's like over protecting the 2239 01:42:33,840 --> 01:42:35,960 Speaker 4: whole thing, and now it's like it's not a story 2240 01:42:36,040 --> 01:42:37,320 Speaker 4: right now, but it will be soon enough. 2241 01:42:37,360 --> 01:42:40,839 Speaker 5: Do you put much into Stroud hooking up Nico Collins 2242 01:42:40,880 --> 01:42:43,200 Speaker 5: for one forty eight six woods for seventy four and 2243 01:42:43,240 --> 01:42:44,439 Speaker 5: tanked out for seventy two. 2244 01:42:44,479 --> 01:42:46,080 Speaker 3: I mean, yes, I Fantasy day. 2245 01:42:46,240 --> 01:42:48,960 Speaker 1: I really think that uh Stroud looked good in this game. 2246 01:42:48,960 --> 01:42:52,240 Speaker 2: Now, a lot of that chunk yardage was occurring when 2247 01:42:52,240 --> 01:42:54,280 Speaker 2: the game was kind of at hand. But you know what, 2248 01:42:54,320 --> 01:42:56,160 Speaker 2: when you have a this is two twenty one year 2249 01:42:56,160 --> 01:42:59,880 Speaker 2: old quarterbacks in this game going at it like any 2250 01:43:00,080 --> 01:43:01,839 Speaker 2: type of you need them on the field to develop, 2251 01:43:01,920 --> 01:43:04,639 Speaker 2: like I saw real quick, like Will McDonald, the Jets 2252 01:43:04,680 --> 01:43:07,439 Speaker 2: first round pick, was a healthy inactive today, and I'm 2253 01:43:07,439 --> 01:43:09,479 Speaker 2: just like scratching my head thinking to myself, I understand 2254 01:43:09,479 --> 01:43:12,839 Speaker 2: they're deep at d line, but you when you have rookies, 2255 01:43:12,920 --> 01:43:16,479 Speaker 2: they need to play to develops. So that was giving 2256 01:43:16,520 --> 01:43:19,080 Speaker 2: me some issues over there, Like you're seeing him get 2257 01:43:19,080 --> 01:43:23,639 Speaker 2: these even in garbage time, the ability to have success 2258 01:43:23,720 --> 01:43:25,080 Speaker 2: and throw the ball build confidence. 2259 01:43:25,120 --> 01:43:26,599 Speaker 1: He went over three hundred yards in this game. 2260 01:43:26,680 --> 01:43:29,200 Speaker 2: So yes, I think if you're the Texans on offense, 2261 01:43:29,560 --> 01:43:32,560 Speaker 2: you're feeling bullish about Stroud's development. I think one of 2262 01:43:32,640 --> 01:43:37,040 Speaker 2: the things I'm over in terms of storylines in our league. 2263 01:43:37,920 --> 01:43:41,800 Speaker 2: You know, well the Vikings or the Texans, well they 2264 01:43:41,800 --> 01:43:44,080 Speaker 2: have Mike Flores or Demico Ryans now, so they're going 2265 01:43:44,120 --> 01:43:46,839 Speaker 2: to be better on defense, Well, you need the players 2266 01:43:46,880 --> 01:43:49,080 Speaker 2: and you need the time in terms of the scheme, 2267 01:43:49,600 --> 01:43:52,200 Speaker 2: and the Texans are not better on defense right now, 2268 01:43:52,200 --> 01:43:54,000 Speaker 2: and it's going to continue to be a major issue 2269 01:43:54,000 --> 01:43:55,479 Speaker 2: for them, at least early in the season. 2270 01:43:55,640 --> 01:43:58,760 Speaker 4: I would say one thing about like Stroud's performance, It 2271 01:43:58,840 --> 01:44:01,799 Speaker 4: wasn't just over three hundred it was almost four hundred yards. 2272 01:44:03,080 --> 01:44:06,320 Speaker 2: The last one fifty or so really was just very 2273 01:44:06,320 --> 01:44:08,599 Speaker 2: soft coverage. But I don't want to go too crazy 2274 01:44:08,600 --> 01:44:10,439 Speaker 2: about it, but also is nice, but look. 2275 01:44:10,280 --> 01:44:13,599 Speaker 4: At his environment compared to like rookies that are put 2276 01:44:13,640 --> 01:44:15,759 Speaker 4: into a better situation. You don't have Larry mt Tunzel today. 2277 01:44:15,880 --> 01:44:20,559 Speaker 4: Their offensive line is like battered and not effective. Damian 2278 01:44:20,600 --> 01:44:24,360 Speaker 4: Pierce two point one yards per carry, thirty one total yards. 2279 01:44:24,360 --> 01:44:27,120 Speaker 4: They barely ran the ball, and so it's all on 2280 01:44:27,160 --> 01:44:29,040 Speaker 4: Stroud and he's getting it done and like your second 2281 01:44:29,120 --> 01:44:31,040 Speaker 4: NFL game, and like the one thing that's always consistent 2282 01:44:31,080 --> 01:44:33,360 Speaker 4: about him is like he's gonna throw a couple passes 2283 01:44:34,120 --> 01:44:36,320 Speaker 4: every performance where it's like there aren't that many people 2284 01:44:36,360 --> 01:44:37,720 Speaker 4: that look like that throwing the ball. I think it's 2285 01:44:37,720 --> 01:44:40,320 Speaker 4: just like a I enjoy watching him, just throw the ball. 2286 01:44:40,240 --> 01:44:40,640 Speaker 3: The trick it. 2287 01:44:40,720 --> 01:44:43,080 Speaker 5: I would say, like it's as good as in an 2288 01:44:43,120 --> 01:44:45,240 Speaker 5: O two start where you're not competitive in any other game. 2289 01:44:45,280 --> 01:44:47,400 Speaker 5: Can feel because you feel like, Okay, I think we've 2290 01:44:47,400 --> 01:44:50,720 Speaker 5: got our quarterback, because plenty of quarterbacks don't light it 2291 01:44:50,760 --> 01:44:52,360 Speaker 5: up in garbage tim or make the type of throws 2292 01:44:52,400 --> 01:44:54,160 Speaker 5: he did a week ago. But they don't know on 2293 01:44:54,200 --> 01:44:56,400 Speaker 5: their first round pick this year, so it's not the 2294 01:44:56,439 --> 01:44:57,960 Speaker 5: best way to start the season. 2295 01:44:57,960 --> 01:44:59,640 Speaker 3: You want to win at home against the Colts. That's 2296 01:44:59,680 --> 01:45:00,519 Speaker 3: one of the games on. 2297 01:45:00,479 --> 01:45:04,080 Speaker 5: The schedule where you were favored coming into the week 2298 01:45:04,080 --> 01:45:07,360 Speaker 5: of the line was really close. It's like when you 2299 01:45:07,400 --> 01:45:10,640 Speaker 5: don't on your first pick, it's gotta start feeling very uncomfortable. 2300 01:45:10,680 --> 01:45:12,440 Speaker 3: If the if the loss is pilot. 2301 01:45:12,320 --> 01:45:13,200 Speaker 1: I mean pick up CJ. 2302 01:45:13,280 --> 01:45:16,639 Speaker 2: Stroud in fantasy because they're probably gonna be playing from 2303 01:45:16,840 --> 01:45:20,519 Speaker 2: hopelessly behind a lot this season. Last last note on 2304 01:45:20,520 --> 01:45:23,639 Speaker 2: this game. It's about the telecast. Robert Smith. 2305 01:45:24,000 --> 01:45:24,760 Speaker 1: Not my cup of tea. 2306 01:45:26,439 --> 01:45:28,920 Speaker 4: Okay, for what name can you give me? One season? 2307 01:45:29,360 --> 01:45:32,240 Speaker 4: Just not not driving with you. It's not a mass He's. 2308 01:45:32,120 --> 01:45:34,080 Speaker 3: Been back in the mix now for a few years. 2309 01:45:34,120 --> 01:45:36,520 Speaker 1: It's not for me, maybe for you. 2310 01:45:36,520 --> 01:45:38,679 Speaker 4: No, I think it's like you are, maybe for America, 2311 01:45:38,920 --> 01:45:41,960 Speaker 4: maybe the world, yep subjective. I have the beholder great 2312 01:45:42,000 --> 01:45:47,000 Speaker 4: running back to Sunday Night Football, where's. 2313 01:45:46,800 --> 01:45:51,519 Speaker 3: The Ted, Miami host the running back, the. 2314 01:45:56,200 --> 01:46:04,200 Speaker 1: Hold large hole, pira hate Boster. Hey just put that 2315 01:46:04,400 --> 01:46:07,320 Speaker 1: into fourth year real quickly and it was over. 2316 01:46:08,640 --> 01:46:13,880 Speaker 2: Oh little car talk for Rosenthal, like get under the 2317 01:46:13,880 --> 01:46:15,040 Speaker 2: hood in the garage. 2318 01:46:14,800 --> 01:46:20,800 Speaker 3: In his spare time Memrio man'sman, I don't know anything. 2319 01:46:20,520 --> 01:46:25,719 Speaker 2: About cars either, Greg and Dan taking this one home tonight, 2320 01:46:26,240 --> 01:46:30,599 Speaker 2: Jimmy Cefalo and Joe Rose on the call for WBGG. 2321 01:46:31,400 --> 01:46:34,439 Speaker 2: The Miami passing game was the star in week one 2322 01:46:34,479 --> 01:46:36,800 Speaker 2: and week two is a running game that had its 2323 01:46:36,840 --> 01:46:40,479 Speaker 2: way with an opponent, this time the Patriots, who could 2324 01:46:40,520 --> 01:46:44,479 Speaker 2: not stop Mostered on that game icing, not exactly game icing. 2325 01:46:44,520 --> 01:46:48,519 Speaker 2: We'll get to that moment. A touchdown run one hundred 2326 01:46:48,560 --> 01:46:50,960 Speaker 2: and forty five yards on the ground for Miami in 2327 01:46:51,000 --> 01:46:55,960 Speaker 2: a twenty four seventeen win over the Patriots. New England 2328 01:46:56,240 --> 01:47:00,120 Speaker 2: falls to zero to two in excruciating fashion in the 2329 01:47:00,120 --> 01:47:04,080 Speaker 2: the Dolphins two and zero leading the AFC East early 2330 01:47:04,120 --> 01:47:07,840 Speaker 2: on GREGI, so the game seems over at that point 2331 01:47:08,760 --> 01:47:13,040 Speaker 2: after the Mostard score and it isn't though, because after 2332 01:47:13,040 --> 01:47:16,280 Speaker 2: they go up twenty four to ten, the Patriots get 2333 01:47:16,280 --> 01:47:19,920 Speaker 2: a touchdown I believe off a turnover or a defensive stop, 2334 01:47:20,400 --> 01:47:20,840 Speaker 2: and then. 2335 01:47:20,720 --> 01:47:21,400 Speaker 1: They have the ball. 2336 01:47:21,400 --> 01:47:25,320 Speaker 2: They're going down the field gregy, and just like last week, 2337 01:47:25,360 --> 01:47:28,040 Speaker 2: it was the completion that wasn't where it's ruled the 2338 01:47:28,120 --> 01:47:29,920 Speaker 2: completion and then they say. 2339 01:47:29,760 --> 01:47:32,439 Speaker 1: Whoa, whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa stop the clocks. 2340 01:47:32,800 --> 01:47:36,840 Speaker 2: Let's look at this, and they rule it incomplete, turnover 2341 01:47:37,160 --> 01:47:41,240 Speaker 2: opponent's ball. Pats lose again a crazy completion to the 2342 01:47:41,280 --> 01:47:44,040 Speaker 2: tight end. They flip back to Cole Strange, the lineman 2343 01:47:44,040 --> 01:47:47,920 Speaker 2: who appeared to get the first down. First down was 2344 01:47:47,960 --> 01:47:49,559 Speaker 2: given on the field and the who whoa, whoa, whoa, 2345 01:47:49,560 --> 01:47:53,080 Speaker 2: whoa whoa wo stop the clocks. It is overturned upon review. 2346 01:47:53,240 --> 01:47:54,320 Speaker 2: That one stings. 2347 01:47:54,479 --> 01:48:00,800 Speaker 5: I question whether you had the right angle to determine that, definitely, 2348 01:48:01,000 --> 01:48:03,439 Speaker 5: because if the the camera is at an angle, how 2349 01:48:03,439 --> 01:48:07,519 Speaker 5: can you say that? So surely, but this loss, as 2350 01:48:07,560 --> 01:48:12,880 Speaker 5: annoying as that ending was, is actually easier to take 2351 01:48:13,640 --> 01:48:16,280 Speaker 5: for me than a week ago, where I think they 2352 01:48:16,280 --> 01:48:19,599 Speaker 5: were the better team and they you know, to use 2353 01:48:19,600 --> 01:48:24,800 Speaker 5: like a tom kerranism on their leg. That was a 2354 01:48:24,840 --> 01:48:26,720 Speaker 5: game they should have won. This is a game they 2355 01:48:26,760 --> 01:48:29,479 Speaker 5: felt lucky to be in, and that was one of 2356 01:48:29,479 --> 01:48:32,760 Speaker 5: those like crazy throw it back to the Tom Brady era, 2357 01:48:32,920 --> 01:48:35,840 Speaker 5: sort of miracle plays that would only happen during the 2358 01:48:35,880 --> 01:48:39,479 Speaker 5: Tom Patriot Tom Brady Patriot era, except now when it happens, 2359 01:48:39,520 --> 01:48:42,400 Speaker 5: you come a half yard short or as a week ago, 2360 01:48:42,560 --> 01:48:44,920 Speaker 5: you review it and it's an incomplete pass and like 2361 01:48:45,080 --> 01:48:49,640 Speaker 5: every good bit of mojo they had for two decades 2362 01:48:49,760 --> 01:48:54,360 Speaker 5: was used up, and Mac Jones is suffering, you suffering. 2363 01:48:53,960 --> 01:48:56,720 Speaker 1: For the Patriots, like. 2364 01:48:56,800 --> 01:48:59,800 Speaker 5: Hunter Henry's catch that was overturned in that Vikings game. 2365 01:48:59,800 --> 01:49:04,200 Speaker 5: I remember though in the past, like the National like 2366 01:49:04,640 --> 01:49:07,160 Speaker 5: Cognizante being like, wow, the Patriots were kind of jobbed 2367 01:49:07,200 --> 01:49:08,800 Speaker 5: one to play that never used to happen, and now 2368 01:49:08,800 --> 01:49:09,800 Speaker 5: it's happening all the time. 2369 01:49:09,800 --> 01:49:11,280 Speaker 3: But they did not deserve to win this game. And 2370 01:49:11,280 --> 01:49:12,160 Speaker 3: we can get to the reasons. 2371 01:49:12,160 --> 01:49:15,000 Speaker 1: Why How does it feel to no longer have magic 2372 01:49:15,479 --> 01:49:16,280 Speaker 1: on your side? 2373 01:49:16,400 --> 01:49:20,360 Speaker 5: It's okay they we uh over indexed as fans. I 2374 01:49:20,360 --> 01:49:23,720 Speaker 5: would say, I'm using we in the fans version. I 2375 01:49:23,760 --> 01:49:25,000 Speaker 5: hear you on that multiple deck. 2376 01:49:25,080 --> 01:49:26,280 Speaker 1: You know who did pee down their leg. 2377 01:49:26,320 --> 01:49:28,280 Speaker 2: I thought, in this and don't worry, Dolviins fans, this 2378 01:49:28,320 --> 01:49:32,080 Speaker 2: is gonna be about you and positive soon enough. But 2379 01:49:32,120 --> 01:49:34,080 Speaker 2: the only reason the Patriots even had a chance here 2380 01:49:34,120 --> 01:49:36,080 Speaker 2: is I thought Mike McDaniel, who I like. 2381 01:49:36,920 --> 01:49:38,920 Speaker 1: I love the guy. He's a funny dude. 2382 01:49:39,080 --> 01:49:42,480 Speaker 2: After he gives his halftime interview, he's on national television 2383 01:49:42,479 --> 01:49:43,439 Speaker 2: with like, I don't know how. 2384 01:49:43,320 --> 01:49:44,400 Speaker 1: Many people watch these games. 2385 01:49:44,520 --> 01:49:47,759 Speaker 2: I don't know, twenty million, something like that, one thousand million, 2386 01:49:47,800 --> 01:49:48,320 Speaker 2: big number. 2387 01:49:49,360 --> 01:49:51,719 Speaker 1: He sprints away, just looking insane. 2388 01:49:51,720 --> 01:49:54,639 Speaker 2: It was. It was wonderful at halftime. But in this game, 2389 01:49:54,720 --> 01:49:58,639 Speaker 2: they have a fourth and three at the New England 2390 01:49:58,640 --> 01:50:02,720 Speaker 2: thirty seven yard line with two nineteen to play, and 2391 01:50:02,760 --> 01:50:07,040 Speaker 2: they are up seven. And your offense was historically great 2392 01:50:07,080 --> 01:50:09,160 Speaker 2: in week one, and you're running the ball down the 2393 01:50:09,200 --> 01:50:13,360 Speaker 2: throats to New England in game two and you send 2394 01:50:13,360 --> 01:50:16,160 Speaker 2: out Jason Sanders for a fifty five year kick and 2395 01:50:16,280 --> 01:50:19,360 Speaker 2: Jason Sanders cannot make fifty yarders. The data backs it up, 2396 01:50:20,160 --> 01:50:22,599 Speaker 2: and sure enough he misses it by a mile wide left, 2397 01:50:22,920 --> 01:50:24,120 Speaker 2: and that's set up the Pats. 2398 01:50:24,160 --> 01:50:26,720 Speaker 1: And I thought that that was a situation. 2399 01:50:26,439 --> 01:50:30,240 Speaker 2: Where McDaniel blinked and it gave the Patriots a second 2400 01:50:30,320 --> 01:50:32,800 Speaker 2: life and they got away with it. But this should 2401 01:50:32,800 --> 01:50:36,000 Speaker 2: have never gotten to that point, and yet it did. 2402 01:50:36,320 --> 01:50:39,639 Speaker 2: But on the positive side of things, Greg, like you said, 2403 01:50:39,640 --> 01:50:42,639 Speaker 2: the Dolphins controlled this game from the start. 2404 01:50:42,760 --> 01:50:43,800 Speaker 1: They were the better team. 2405 01:50:44,320 --> 01:50:47,479 Speaker 2: And when you can now say Raheem Moster's a guy 2406 01:50:47,520 --> 01:50:50,719 Speaker 2: that can pop off for one twenty when our passing 2407 01:50:50,720 --> 01:50:53,599 Speaker 2: game is being held down a little bit, it shows 2408 01:50:53,600 --> 01:50:55,400 Speaker 2: you how deep and dangerous this offense is. 2409 01:50:55,680 --> 01:50:58,880 Speaker 5: Right McDaniel gets a little knock for that. I'm with 2410 01:50:58,960 --> 01:51:02,000 Speaker 5: you as someone rooting for New England. I was like, 2411 01:51:02,479 --> 01:51:05,400 Speaker 5: thank you, thank you for the field goal attempt. They 2412 01:51:05,400 --> 01:51:08,000 Speaker 5: have a better chance at this than stopping a three 2413 01:51:08,080 --> 01:51:10,400 Speaker 5: yard play. The only reason they stopped the third and 2414 01:51:10,439 --> 01:51:13,240 Speaker 5: one is because to a tongue Iiloa and his center 2415 01:51:13,800 --> 01:51:17,559 Speaker 5: messed up the exchange for the umpty in time this season, 2416 01:51:18,080 --> 01:51:20,839 Speaker 5: who is it McGovern or Connor Williams? Rather I confuse 2417 01:51:20,880 --> 01:51:23,920 Speaker 5: the Connors with who can play multiple positions. It had 2418 01:51:23,960 --> 01:51:26,120 Speaker 5: a couple other bad snaps that led to bad plays 2419 01:51:26,400 --> 01:51:29,280 Speaker 5: in this game, But this is so Unpatriot and I 2420 01:51:29,360 --> 01:51:33,160 Speaker 5: will puke the next time I hear someone says like, 2421 01:51:33,280 --> 01:51:36,919 Speaker 5: well these are They're just making sloppy, Unpatriots like mistakes. 2422 01:51:36,920 --> 01:51:39,559 Speaker 5: So they're de playing mental errors. That's not like the Patriots, 2423 01:51:39,840 --> 01:51:43,160 Speaker 5: It's exactly who they've been since the very moment Tom 2424 01:51:43,200 --> 01:51:45,479 Speaker 5: Brady left. Like they get penalized a lot. They make 2425 01:51:45,520 --> 01:51:47,760 Speaker 5: mental errors, that's just part of it. But what they 2426 01:51:47,800 --> 01:51:50,559 Speaker 5: have done better usually is run the ball and stop 2427 01:51:50,600 --> 01:51:53,040 Speaker 5: the run. That's that's Bill Belichick wants to do that. 2428 01:51:53,439 --> 01:51:56,759 Speaker 5: They didn't stop the run on Sunday night. They didn't 2429 01:51:56,840 --> 01:52:00,360 Speaker 5: run the ball well. And even though TOUA numbers don't great, 2430 01:52:00,400 --> 01:52:02,840 Speaker 5: I think Belichick threw some things at him and he 2431 01:52:02,880 --> 01:52:06,840 Speaker 5: had that interception. Man, he made a couple beautiful plays. 2432 01:52:06,920 --> 01:52:09,479 Speaker 5: He mostly made really good decisions. I think the first 2433 01:52:09,560 --> 01:52:11,479 Speaker 5: third down of the game, he steps up in the pocket, 2434 01:52:11,760 --> 01:52:13,759 Speaker 5: makes the right read where he a lot's being thrown 2435 01:52:13,800 --> 01:52:16,400 Speaker 5: at him, processing wise, and I think he handled it, 2436 01:52:16,640 --> 01:52:18,599 Speaker 5: let's say, better than Jalen Hurts did a week ago. 2437 01:52:18,880 --> 01:52:20,439 Speaker 5: The drive at the end of the first half was 2438 01:52:20,439 --> 01:52:22,280 Speaker 5: beautiful where they only have a couple minutes and he 2439 01:52:22,360 --> 01:52:23,800 Speaker 5: just has to go down the field and has a 2440 01:52:23,840 --> 01:52:25,320 Speaker 5: great throw to Burrio. 2441 01:52:25,560 --> 01:52:28,000 Speaker 3: So he still was the better quarterback. 2442 01:52:27,680 --> 01:52:30,080 Speaker 5: In this game, certainly, even though Mac Jones is better 2443 01:52:30,160 --> 01:52:32,160 Speaker 5: and they had the better running game. They outgained him 2444 01:52:32,160 --> 01:52:34,760 Speaker 5: by one hundred. They're the better team at least through 2445 01:52:34,840 --> 01:52:35,479 Speaker 5: two weeks. 2446 01:52:35,840 --> 01:52:38,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, I thought it was interesting and remarked on when 2447 01:52:38,360 --> 01:52:42,360 Speaker 2: we were watching in the film room that Mac Jones, 2448 01:52:42,360 --> 01:52:44,000 Speaker 2: who's you know, you don't hang him the loss on 2449 01:52:44,040 --> 01:52:46,479 Speaker 2: mac Jones, but it's a lot of hard work for 2450 01:52:46,560 --> 01:52:49,160 Speaker 2: mac Jones. And it's strange to me to see a 2451 01:52:49,240 --> 01:52:52,160 Speaker 2: quarterback in the league now that doesn't feel like he's 2452 01:52:52,360 --> 01:52:55,200 Speaker 2: a highly athletic player. And so I think they're just 2453 01:52:56,000 --> 01:52:59,680 Speaker 2: they're just earthbound offensively, not because of him, but he's 2454 01:52:59,720 --> 01:53:02,920 Speaker 2: a a part of it. And Ramrodra Stevenson, who's supposed 2455 01:53:02,960 --> 01:53:04,400 Speaker 2: to be the dog of this team, he has been 2456 01:53:04,439 --> 01:53:08,120 Speaker 2: pretty quiet through two weeks. He averaged three point three 2457 01:53:08,160 --> 01:53:10,760 Speaker 2: yards Carrie in this game. That's only after they did 2458 01:53:10,800 --> 01:53:13,719 Speaker 2: a little bit of work later on in the second half. 2459 01:53:13,760 --> 01:53:15,800 Speaker 2: For the most part, he was totally bottled up. Zeke 2460 01:53:15,920 --> 01:53:18,200 Speaker 2: is not really a part of this offense right now either. 2461 01:53:18,560 --> 01:53:21,360 Speaker 2: So there are issues obviously with New England and it's 2462 01:53:21,439 --> 01:53:23,559 Speaker 2: I think it's going to be a season long situation. 2463 01:53:23,680 --> 01:53:25,560 Speaker 1: It won't be as I think they can improve. I 2464 01:53:25,800 --> 01:53:26,559 Speaker 1: think listen. 2465 01:53:26,600 --> 01:53:28,360 Speaker 2: I think they can improve, but I think last year 2466 01:53:28,560 --> 01:53:31,840 Speaker 2: was an outlier that they were kind of laughed at 2467 01:53:31,880 --> 01:53:34,439 Speaker 2: for how out of sync they were and poorly coached 2468 01:53:34,439 --> 01:53:36,280 Speaker 2: on offense. But I think it's going to be a 2469 01:53:36,280 --> 01:53:37,800 Speaker 2: grind for this team to score points for most of 2470 01:53:37,800 --> 01:53:38,040 Speaker 2: the year. 2471 01:53:38,080 --> 01:53:41,240 Speaker 5: I mean, if it doesn't improve, I have my doubts 2472 01:53:41,240 --> 01:53:43,559 Speaker 5: about Bill Belichick's future, but we can talk about that 2473 01:53:43,920 --> 01:53:45,880 Speaker 5: throughout the course of the season. I think it will 2474 01:53:45,880 --> 01:53:49,439 Speaker 5: improve because it needs to improve. When they're third and three, 2475 01:53:49,520 --> 01:53:52,040 Speaker 5: third and four, they can pick that up. If it's 2476 01:53:52,080 --> 01:53:54,360 Speaker 5: anything longer, they can't pick up. They didn't have a 2477 01:53:54,400 --> 01:53:57,800 Speaker 5: play over fourteen yards. Their longest play of the game, 2478 01:53:57,920 --> 01:54:00,599 Speaker 5: Dan was that catch that set up the fourth down, 2479 01:54:00,880 --> 01:54:03,439 Speaker 5: which Mike Goseki caught with one hand and then the 2480 01:54:03,520 --> 01:54:05,760 Speaker 5: Dolphins quarterback cater Co who had it with one hand, 2481 01:54:05,800 --> 01:54:07,600 Speaker 5: and then it would look like Julian Edelman in the 2482 01:54:07,600 --> 01:54:09,320 Speaker 5: Super Bowl. That was their longest play and that. 2483 01:54:09,320 --> 01:54:10,320 Speaker 1: Was fourteen yards. 2484 01:54:10,400 --> 01:54:13,880 Speaker 5: Fourteen freaking yards that moster I do want to just 2485 01:54:13,880 --> 01:54:16,280 Speaker 5: point out a couple of little sequences. So another time, 2486 01:54:16,400 --> 01:54:19,040 Speaker 5: like they got the Christian Gonzales interception in the middle 2487 01:54:19,040 --> 01:54:21,120 Speaker 5: of the fourth quarter at that point, they're only down seven. 2488 01:54:21,320 --> 01:54:24,280 Speaker 5: You think the place is going crazy. You think, okay, 2489 01:54:24,320 --> 01:54:26,679 Speaker 5: this is where they have a chance to make a run. 2490 01:54:26,960 --> 01:54:29,960 Speaker 5: And their next three plays was throw to Juju, who 2491 01:54:29,960 --> 01:54:33,080 Speaker 5: has this I'm the new free agent wide receiver with 2492 01:54:33,120 --> 01:54:35,320 Speaker 5: the Patriots look to him, which is not a good 2493 01:54:35,320 --> 01:54:38,240 Speaker 5: sign because usually when it starts bad, it doesn't get better. 2494 01:54:38,600 --> 01:54:41,400 Speaker 5: Incomplete pass to him than Andrew Van Ginkle, who will 2495 01:54:41,440 --> 01:54:44,200 Speaker 5: sign a huge contract to be a New England Patriot 2496 01:54:44,200 --> 01:54:48,640 Speaker 5: in a year, forces them into a long yarded situation 2497 01:54:49,040 --> 01:54:51,240 Speaker 5: with a big sack and then they just throw a 2498 01:54:51,240 --> 01:54:53,320 Speaker 5: mac Jones hope ball on third down and there's a 2499 01:54:53,320 --> 01:54:55,280 Speaker 5: lot of mac Jones down the field hope balls. Van 2500 01:54:55,320 --> 01:54:57,280 Speaker 5: Yinko had a force fumble earlier in the game. That 2501 01:54:57,360 --> 01:55:01,360 Speaker 5: to me, that's such a helling sequence of where they're at. 2502 01:55:01,400 --> 01:55:04,000 Speaker 5: Even though they're making plays like the mac Jones touchdown 2503 01:55:04,080 --> 01:55:05,720 Speaker 5: at the end of the game, one of them was 2504 01:55:05,760 --> 01:55:08,520 Speaker 5: on a play that was totally improvised and was a 2505 01:55:08,520 --> 01:55:10,760 Speaker 5: busted play and probably should have been penalized on the Patriots. 2506 01:55:10,960 --> 01:55:12,480 Speaker 3: And they didn't get all the bricks. 2507 01:55:12,320 --> 01:55:15,480 Speaker 2: And they got you know, tough, tough scheduling Eagles Dolphins, 2508 01:55:15,480 --> 01:55:18,520 Speaker 2: but owing two at home to start the season, and now, 2509 01:55:18,680 --> 01:55:20,440 Speaker 2: and we'll get to it. Now, they're in a kind 2510 01:55:20,480 --> 01:55:24,680 Speaker 2: of a wounded animal deathmatch going to the Metalands to 2511 01:55:24,680 --> 01:55:26,760 Speaker 2: face the Jets, and god that that. 2512 01:55:26,720 --> 01:55:29,560 Speaker 5: Jets are one and one, so technically they don't qualify 2513 01:55:29,640 --> 01:55:30,240 Speaker 5: for your. 2514 01:55:30,440 --> 01:55:33,320 Speaker 1: No, they do not. They're not a wounded animal. 2515 01:55:33,440 --> 01:55:38,280 Speaker 2: But also there's there's a depressing vibe around that game 2516 01:55:38,360 --> 01:55:41,560 Speaker 2: because it might be very similar to last year's Patriots 2517 01:55:41,720 --> 01:55:44,680 Speaker 2: Jets games, or it's like very low scoring, big time 2518 01:55:44,800 --> 01:55:45,560 Speaker 2: slog fest. 2519 01:55:45,640 --> 01:55:47,040 Speaker 1: And we'll see how that game goes. 2520 01:55:47,040 --> 01:55:50,000 Speaker 2: They absolutely need the game, and the Dolphins and they 2521 01:55:50,000 --> 01:55:52,280 Speaker 2: get Now they welcome Denver into their building and they're 2522 01:55:52,280 --> 01:55:54,200 Speaker 2: two and oh. So you know, I think it's funny 2523 01:55:54,200 --> 01:55:55,920 Speaker 2: with it. We talked about it all summer, at least 2524 01:55:55,960 --> 01:55:57,480 Speaker 2: I said it a lot. I think Mark said something 2525 01:55:57,520 --> 01:56:00,640 Speaker 2: similar that everybody was hyping up the Dolphins Jets, and 2526 01:56:00,680 --> 01:56:02,440 Speaker 2: one of those teams was going to get picked off 2527 01:56:02,800 --> 01:56:06,120 Speaker 2: by either just the hype monster or some type of injury. 2528 01:56:06,320 --> 01:56:07,360 Speaker 1: Sadly was my team. 2529 01:56:07,680 --> 01:56:09,920 Speaker 2: The Dolphins, on the other hand, they're the team that 2530 01:56:10,240 --> 01:56:12,080 Speaker 2: looks like they could be set up for a nice 2531 01:56:12,080 --> 01:56:14,360 Speaker 2: season here. They need to not get picked off by 2532 01:56:14,400 --> 01:56:16,440 Speaker 2: the injury. We know what I'm talking about when I 2533 01:56:16,440 --> 01:56:19,080 Speaker 2: say that, But right now, so far, so good. 2534 01:56:19,080 --> 01:56:21,160 Speaker 5: From my I just love what Mike mcdane's doing. He's 2535 01:56:21,200 --> 01:56:26,200 Speaker 5: stacking these creative little wrinkles. He's had it all week. 2536 01:56:26,320 --> 01:56:28,640 Speaker 5: All anyone talked about is a short motion that Tyreek 2537 01:56:28,720 --> 01:56:31,680 Speaker 5: Hill was doing, you know, from from either kind of 2538 01:56:31,920 --> 01:56:35,680 Speaker 5: inside the tackles and what kind of challenges the presented. 2539 01:56:35,680 --> 01:56:37,360 Speaker 5: And for the most part, the Patriots did well, but 2540 01:56:37,440 --> 01:56:40,000 Speaker 5: then he was playing off of that. That moster run 2541 01:56:40,320 --> 01:56:44,160 Speaker 5: partly came because they were so distracted by what Tyreek 2542 01:56:44,240 --> 01:56:46,920 Speaker 5: Hill was doing in the backfield, and the wattle big 2543 01:56:46,920 --> 01:56:49,080 Speaker 5: play that he had down the field was partly because 2544 01:56:49,080 --> 01:56:51,160 Speaker 5: they were distracted by what Tyreek Kill was doing. So 2545 01:56:51,360 --> 01:56:54,360 Speaker 5: I love mcdane just stacking nice play calls on top 2546 01:56:54,400 --> 01:56:55,120 Speaker 5: of nice play calls. 2547 01:56:55,200 --> 01:56:58,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's impressive when Tua can throw for four to 2548 01:56:58,800 --> 01:57:02,200 Speaker 2: sixty and you can go for two hundred, But maybe 2549 01:57:03,120 --> 01:57:05,920 Speaker 2: more dangerous to the rest of the AFC when they 2550 01:57:05,920 --> 01:57:08,160 Speaker 2: can win a game when Tyreek has forty yards. 2551 01:57:08,440 --> 01:57:12,240 Speaker 5: Only one wounded animal game will be on the Week 2552 01:57:12,280 --> 01:57:13,200 Speaker 5: three state that's low. 2553 01:57:13,280 --> 01:57:15,560 Speaker 3: That's a little weird, but it's Wounded be Wounded. 2554 01:57:15,720 --> 01:57:22,080 Speaker 5: It's ultimate wounded animal game, Wounded Wounded Chargers, Vikings. I mean, 2555 01:57:22,160 --> 01:57:27,520 Speaker 5: that's that's it, that's wounded or franchises, Wounded Centuries. 2556 01:57:28,080 --> 01:57:29,440 Speaker 1: Is it possible that they both lose? 2557 01:57:29,520 --> 01:57:31,200 Speaker 3: I want that I want that game. 2558 01:57:31,520 --> 01:57:34,600 Speaker 2: I think it's in play all right. Big Sunday Show, 2559 01:57:34,680 --> 01:57:38,320 Speaker 2: Thank you everybody, too Big for listening. I think the 2560 01:57:38,360 --> 01:57:42,920 Speaker 2: listeners are going to enjoy. They like the size. Who 2561 01:57:43,000 --> 01:57:48,800 Speaker 2: doesn't Big Monday coming up, NFL Plus and two podcasts 2562 01:57:48,800 --> 01:58:18,000 Speaker 2: Till Then, Heed the Call