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Speaker 1: So why the Cardinals, Why going undrafted might have been

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Speaker 1: at Cardinals Cover two, Episode nine ninety and it starts now.

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Speaker 2: Welcome to Cardinals Cover two.

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Speaker 3: Buda Baker, What Heart?

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Speaker 4: What rent? This guy's unbelievable.

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Speaker 3: Right at the five hit the ends up for the

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Speaker 2: Here's Craig Griolo.

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Speaker 1: PSA for the Bird Gang and really all fans because

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Speaker 1: it's that time of year, part of the silly season

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Speaker 1: that Paul you love so much. So let me just

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Speaker 1: say this, every team will be at every major programs

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Speaker 3: You know, April Fools is coming up pretty quick, right

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Speaker 3: It can be certain entities have certain vested interests in

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Speaker 1: Craig, I've already seen it, Paul already on social media.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and think about like you said, Gardack, undrafted Pat

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Speaker 3: Nick Rollis's defense. Yeah, I like the fact Arrell Austin

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Speaker 3: We saw how good he was against the Cardinals when

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Speaker 3: Andrew Wingert's on a three to four million dollars deal.

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Speaker 3: So you know, the kaponomics workout really well. But then

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Speaker 3: there's also the Football IQ. There's Buddha Baker and just this,

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Speaker 1: You look at some of the analytics going back to

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Speaker 3: Great.

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Speaker 1: So let's get to our conversation with Andrew Wingard. It

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Speaker 1: I'll ask for permission. Can we call you Dewey?

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Speaker 5: So we had a lot of neighbor kids growing up

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Speaker 5: as long as I can remember, Okay.

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Speaker 4: And that's what.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, when you get the full name.

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Speaker 3: Well that there's also Morris the Blade, an alter ego,

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Speaker 3: but we'll get to that a little bit later. How

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Speaker 5: Right, Yeah, it was a great run in Jacksonville. I

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Speaker 1: What was the free agency process like for you this

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Speaker 4: How's this going to work? At this and that?

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Speaker 3: So how much do you think the game here influenced

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Speaker 4: Maybe? Who knows. It was a great game.

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Speaker 3: So, you know, I'm the sideline reporter. We got down there, right,

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Speaker 3: And I'm like, wait a minute, that's not Gardeck unless

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Speaker 3: So yeah, well that's how he forged his seven year

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Speaker 5: Yeah no, and he actually I knew of him because

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Speaker 5: Yeah, And I've told people this a lot. Going undrafted

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Speaker 3: So, you know, as an organization, it's been more than

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Speaker 3: You know, Buddha calls it running into the darkness.

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Speaker 5: And I've seen the interview of him, you know, where

434
00:21:47,960 --> 00:21:50,399
Speaker 5: he's crying and he's like, I'm sick of losing and stuff.

435
00:21:50,440 --> 00:21:51,760
Speaker 4: And that's the.

436
00:21:51,720 --> 00:21:54,119
Speaker 5: One that hits home the most, is a guy that

437
00:21:54,400 --> 00:21:57,080
Speaker 5: hates to hates to lose more than he loves to win.

438
00:21:57,240 --> 00:22:00,639
Speaker 5: So I'm just excited to learn from a guy I

439
00:22:00,960 --> 00:22:03,320
Speaker 5: don't even know what year he's in, ten or eleven maybe,

440
00:22:03,359 --> 00:22:06,080
Speaker 5: but one of the highest paid safeties. And so he's

441
00:22:06,119 --> 00:22:09,240
Speaker 5: a guy you're I'm endlessly gonna keep my eye on

442
00:22:09,320 --> 00:22:11,600
Speaker 5: and learn from and maybe I can give him a

443
00:22:11,600 --> 00:22:13,880
Speaker 5: few tips here and there. But it's gonna be fun.

444
00:22:13,920 --> 00:22:18,000
Speaker 5: And you know, with the young guy, uh Dadrion, he

445
00:22:18,160 --> 00:22:21,920
Speaker 5: messaged me right when I got signed, So it's just cool.

446
00:22:22,000 --> 00:22:24,080
Speaker 5: It's like, Okay, let's work, you know what I mean.

447
00:22:24,160 --> 00:22:26,600
Speaker 5: So I'm excited to get in with these guys and

448
00:22:26,680 --> 00:22:28,720
Speaker 5: craft and hopefully turn this place around.

449
00:22:29,200 --> 00:22:32,119
Speaker 3: We saw Land go from four wins to fourteen wins

450
00:22:32,119 --> 00:22:35,680
Speaker 3: in the Super Bowl, right, Jacksonville obviously a miraculous turnaround.

451
00:22:35,920 --> 00:22:36,120
Speaker 4: Yep.

452
00:22:36,400 --> 00:22:38,400
Speaker 3: Is there anything you can share with this team come

453
00:22:38,480 --> 00:22:39,560
Speaker 3: off last year this year?

454
00:22:39,680 --> 00:22:39,880
Speaker 4: Yeah?

455
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Speaker 5: I mean I've done that twice in Jacksonville, where you

456
00:22:42,280 --> 00:22:45,560
Speaker 5: come off a you know, three or four win year,

457
00:22:45,600 --> 00:22:48,240
Speaker 5: and then in twenty two we go nine and eight,

458
00:22:48,280 --> 00:22:51,240
Speaker 5: win the division and you know, win a playoff game,

459
00:22:51,280 --> 00:22:54,960
Speaker 5: and then again four and thirteen in twenty twenty four

460
00:22:55,160 --> 00:23:00,080
Speaker 5: in Jacksonville and then turn around thirteen and four. So

461
00:23:00,280 --> 00:23:02,760
Speaker 5: I've watched this team enough and having played against them

462
00:23:02,840 --> 00:23:06,040
Speaker 5: last year, the team is good enough. And I think

463
00:23:06,040 --> 00:23:09,359
Speaker 5: that was what was big with Jacksonville last years. We

464
00:23:09,440 --> 00:23:12,440
Speaker 5: had a lot of the group left from those playoff teams.

465
00:23:12,440 --> 00:23:15,199
Speaker 5: We just needed the right direction and we needed, you know,

466
00:23:15,359 --> 00:23:18,720
Speaker 5: to come together and really you know, buy in. So

467
00:23:18,800 --> 00:23:21,520
Speaker 5: I think that's you know, you bring in coach Lafleur.

468
00:23:21,920 --> 00:23:23,560
Speaker 5: You got a bunch of guys that have been here

469
00:23:23,600 --> 00:23:27,600
Speaker 5: in Buddha and Jacobi, all the you know, Trey, all

470
00:23:27,640 --> 00:23:31,840
Speaker 5: those guys. So if you can really you know, have

471
00:23:32,040 --> 00:23:34,320
Speaker 5: those guys that have been through stuff together and it

472
00:23:34,320 --> 00:23:36,640
Speaker 5: brings the locker room together and then they buy into

473
00:23:36,680 --> 00:23:40,720
Speaker 5: the coaching staff. It's a pretty good ingredient for success.

474
00:23:40,800 --> 00:23:43,080
Speaker 5: So hopefully that can happen here. But I would say

475
00:23:43,119 --> 00:23:46,960
Speaker 5: that's the thing that can really put this team over

476
00:23:47,000 --> 00:23:48,760
Speaker 5: the top is when the guys come together and then

477
00:23:48,760 --> 00:23:50,480
Speaker 5: you get a new coach who knows what he's.

478
00:23:50,320 --> 00:23:52,240
Speaker 4: Doing and it just kind of blooms.

479
00:23:52,280 --> 00:23:55,560
Speaker 5: So but like I said, the talent, the talent issue

480
00:23:55,600 --> 00:23:58,240
Speaker 5: is not an issue on this team. I remember last

481
00:23:58,320 --> 00:24:01,199
Speaker 5: year coming into the game we played, I was like,

482
00:24:01,240 --> 00:24:02,800
Speaker 5: this is gonna be our hardest game of the year

483
00:24:02,840 --> 00:24:06,240
Speaker 5: because you look at the team teams record, and everyone's

484
00:24:06,280 --> 00:24:09,000
Speaker 5: gonna go, Okay, it's gonna be easy, when like, no, no,

485
00:24:09,160 --> 00:24:13,280
Speaker 5: this is a very talented team and so combine that

486
00:24:13,359 --> 00:24:15,960
Speaker 5: with leadership, you never know what can happen.

487
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Speaker 1: You sound like you have a similar mindset to a

488
00:24:18,400 --> 00:24:22,040
Speaker 1: lot of the players already here transitioning though from a

489
00:24:22,119 --> 00:24:24,840
Speaker 1: team in Jacksonville that you spent your entire career. Now

490
00:24:24,840 --> 00:24:27,720
Speaker 1: coming here, you think it's going to be much of

491
00:24:27,720 --> 00:24:30,480
Speaker 1: a transition or you can come right in and really

492
00:24:30,560 --> 00:24:31,960
Speaker 1: simulate with everyone else.

493
00:24:32,240 --> 00:24:34,800
Speaker 5: Yeah, I think when guys get in the league, I

494
00:24:34,800 --> 00:24:38,040
Speaker 5: think it's not like all I'm gonna have a hard

495
00:24:38,080 --> 00:24:42,560
Speaker 5: time blended. You know, the NFL. NFL players in general,

496
00:24:42,640 --> 00:24:45,600
Speaker 5: the camaraderie between NFL players is really good, so I

497
00:24:45,600 --> 00:24:48,320
Speaker 5: don't think that's gonna be an issue. But obviously there's

498
00:24:48,320 --> 00:24:49,960
Speaker 5: gonna be a lot of guys here, you know, with

499
00:24:50,080 --> 00:24:52,320
Speaker 5: coach Rallis coming back that know the system. So I

500
00:24:52,320 --> 00:24:55,720
Speaker 5: think that'll be my first sort of objective is learning

501
00:24:55,720 --> 00:24:58,480
Speaker 5: the system. So I'll definitely be behind from that sense.

502
00:24:58,560 --> 00:25:01,800
Speaker 5: But other than that, I've done this before, you know,

503
00:25:02,240 --> 00:25:05,679
Speaker 5: I've turned around, you know, turned around Jacksonville twice. So

504
00:25:05,760 --> 00:25:09,720
Speaker 5: I'm no, I'm not new to you know, having success

505
00:25:09,760 --> 00:25:12,440
Speaker 5: after a bad year, So I think that can only help.

506
00:25:12,480 --> 00:25:15,040
Speaker 5: And I can obviously bring some light, you know to

507
00:25:15,200 --> 00:25:18,239
Speaker 5: guys that maybe have questions or this or that and

508
00:25:18,400 --> 00:25:19,960
Speaker 5: how did you do this? How did you do that?

509
00:25:20,160 --> 00:25:23,080
Speaker 5: So I'm hopefully just trying to add to the to

510
00:25:23,119 --> 00:25:25,200
Speaker 5: the pot of stew and add my ingredient.

511
00:25:25,760 --> 00:25:27,199
Speaker 3: All right now, when you signed on the line that

512
00:25:27,280 --> 00:25:29,840
Speaker 3: is dotted, did you sign Andrew, did you sign Dewey

513
00:25:30,000 --> 00:25:32,160
Speaker 3: or did you sign Morris the Blade?

514
00:25:32,280 --> 00:25:34,560
Speaker 5: Well, I wish I could have signed Morris the Blade,

515
00:25:34,560 --> 00:25:36,840
Speaker 5: but I technically had to go with the government name.

516
00:25:36,880 --> 00:25:39,800
Speaker 5: But yeah, No, Hopefully Morris the Blade will come. I

517
00:25:40,440 --> 00:25:42,120
Speaker 5: would have liked to have seen him a little more

518
00:25:42,160 --> 00:25:45,240
Speaker 5: this past year. I need to definitely go back to

519
00:25:45,320 --> 00:25:48,480
Speaker 5: my roots of getting into getting into my flow state

520
00:25:48,520 --> 00:25:51,480
Speaker 5: a little better, more more often, I guess I should say,

521
00:25:51,480 --> 00:25:53,680
Speaker 5: because there were spurts of it. But you know, when

522
00:25:53,680 --> 00:25:56,280
Speaker 5: I really get going and I really you know, turn

523
00:25:56,320 --> 00:26:00,000
Speaker 5: that alter ego on, and uh, it can get fun.

524
00:26:00,240 --> 00:26:01,280
Speaker 4: It can get fun quick.

525
00:26:01,600 --> 00:26:03,240
Speaker 3: So it's like reaching the zone.

526
00:26:03,359 --> 00:26:05,719
Speaker 5: Yeah, you know, it's kind of Kobe's mamba. You know,

527
00:26:07,880 --> 00:26:10,800
Speaker 5: it's just you turn into someone new. And you know,

528
00:26:11,000 --> 00:26:14,280
Speaker 5: I'm sure you guys, in whatever your background, you've just

529
00:26:14,320 --> 00:26:16,479
Speaker 5: had those days, you know, where you just got your

530
00:26:16,480 --> 00:26:21,200
Speaker 5: stuff working and it's so easy, and I'm sure you've

531
00:26:21,240 --> 00:26:24,360
Speaker 5: maybe coined an alter ego maybe, but that's just kind

532
00:26:24,359 --> 00:26:24,800
Speaker 5: of how it.

533
00:26:24,760 --> 00:26:28,000
Speaker 1: Is when you before you turn on the microphone, you

534
00:26:28,040 --> 00:26:29,000
Speaker 1: tend to change the world.

535
00:26:29,160 --> 00:26:31,440
Speaker 3: I try with a poly pigskin, you know, I try

536
00:26:31,440 --> 00:26:34,240
Speaker 3: with Polly Pigskin. Doesn't get a lot of traction. I

537
00:26:34,240 --> 00:26:36,199
Speaker 3: don't get respected as such, but you know, I go

538
00:26:36,240 --> 00:26:38,880
Speaker 3: down swinging. You know, we'll see yeah see yeah, I mean,

539
00:26:39,640 --> 00:26:43,320
Speaker 3: let me ask you this in terms of your game

540
00:26:43,400 --> 00:26:45,520
Speaker 3: is there an underrated part of your game? Is there

541
00:26:45,520 --> 00:26:47,480
Speaker 3: something like you're coming in You're like, you know, people,

542
00:26:47,520 --> 00:26:50,280
Speaker 3: maybe this doesn't show up in all the skin reports.

543
00:26:50,840 --> 00:26:54,040
Speaker 4: Well, you know my whole career in Jacksonville.

544
00:26:54,080 --> 00:26:57,320
Speaker 5: Everyone Oh he's this white guy, he's a special teamer,

545
00:26:57,440 --> 00:27:00,280
Speaker 5: he's a backup depth player. Yeah, get out of here.

546
00:27:00,640 --> 00:27:02,919
Speaker 5: Like I'm a starter in this league. Like I've played

547
00:27:02,960 --> 00:27:04,560
Speaker 5: a lot of football in this league, and I've made

548
00:27:04,600 --> 00:27:06,920
Speaker 5: a lot of plays, and you know, last year, I've

549
00:27:06,920 --> 00:27:09,440
Speaker 5: really only had two chances that a coaching staff has

550
00:27:09,440 --> 00:27:13,880
Speaker 5: gone okay, like like we trust you and you're the guy,

551
00:27:14,200 --> 00:27:17,000
Speaker 5: and I've balled out every time I've had that opportunity.

552
00:27:17,080 --> 00:27:20,040
Speaker 5: So if I would say there's underrated parts of my game,

553
00:27:20,240 --> 00:27:23,560
Speaker 5: like just watch the tape. Like my coverage, My coverage

554
00:27:23,640 --> 00:27:27,240
Speaker 5: last year was great. My over the top coverage was great.

555
00:27:27,240 --> 00:27:30,240
Speaker 5: So I think the underrated parts that I wouldn't consider

556
00:27:30,320 --> 00:27:33,600
Speaker 5: underrated about myself because I'm confident myself would just be

557
00:27:34,680 --> 00:27:38,639
Speaker 5: coverage ability and speed and over the top range. So

558
00:27:39,119 --> 00:27:42,879
Speaker 5: I'm gonna do all those things and I've finally have

559
00:27:42,960 --> 00:27:44,960
Speaker 5: got the chance and last year I got the chance

560
00:27:45,000 --> 00:27:46,520
Speaker 5: to do it. So I'm just gonna continue to do

561
00:27:46,600 --> 00:27:49,119
Speaker 5: those things and and continue to you know, make my

562
00:27:49,200 --> 00:27:53,119
Speaker 5: game whole, you know, coming down in the box, covering

563
00:27:53,119 --> 00:27:54,240
Speaker 5: tight ends, run fits.

564
00:27:54,280 --> 00:27:55,359
Speaker 4: I can do that in my sleep.

565
00:27:55,440 --> 00:27:58,560
Speaker 5: So I've definitely worked on it, and now I'm confident

566
00:27:58,640 --> 00:28:03,560
Speaker 5: in being in the whole, the whole game coverage, run, stopping, speed,

567
00:28:03,640 --> 00:28:05,960
Speaker 5: tackling all that, so I can do it all.

568
00:28:06,400 --> 00:28:11,640
Speaker 1: Sixteen starts last season for Jacksonville. Welcome aboard, Dewey, Yes, sir,

569
00:28:11,680 --> 00:28:14,320
Speaker 1: we're on a first name basis nickname basis here, Yes, sir,

570
00:28:14,520 --> 00:28:17,000
Speaker 1: so welcome and look forward to getting to know you more.

571
00:28:17,240 --> 00:28:18,040
Speaker 3: But excited to have.

572
00:28:17,960 --> 00:28:18,520
Speaker 1: You in the building.

573
00:28:18,560 --> 00:28:20,040
Speaker 4: Absolutely, Thank you, guys, appreciate it.

574
00:28:21,080 --> 00:28:23,520
Speaker 1: So now in the safety room, Paul, there's a Buddha

575
00:28:24,200 --> 00:28:28,719
Speaker 1: rabbit bug which is Keaton Crawford, and now do it.

576
00:28:28,760 --> 00:28:31,480
Speaker 1: The only player who goes by his given name, his

577
00:28:31,640 --> 00:28:35,320
Speaker 1: government name is Joey Blunt. Unless I'm missing something, you

578
00:28:35,320 --> 00:28:37,120
Speaker 1: talk to a number of players in that locker room.

579
00:28:37,160 --> 00:28:40,640
Speaker 1: Does Joey Blunt have a nickname? You know that we

580
00:28:40,680 --> 00:28:44,000
Speaker 1: need to launch an investigation. We need to you know, guy, Hey,

581
00:28:44,760 --> 00:28:46,960
Speaker 1: Zach Gershman, get on that one when you're on there.

582
00:28:47,120 --> 00:28:49,200
Speaker 3: Just figure that one. Out or I can't do everything

583
00:28:49,200 --> 00:28:52,800
Speaker 3: around here. Yeah, it's a really intriguing safety room. Different

584
00:28:52,840 --> 00:28:59,480
Speaker 3: body types, different playing styles, you know, it's really intriguing.

585
00:28:59,520 --> 00:29:03,480
Speaker 3: But ye, some hard hitters between Buddha and Wingert, and

586
00:29:03,720 --> 00:29:08,880
Speaker 3: we've seen Rabbit lay the lumber the insane athleticism of

587
00:29:08,920 --> 00:29:12,080
Speaker 3: a Keaton Crawford. And I say that because we've seen

588
00:29:12,120 --> 00:29:16,200
Speaker 3: Keaton Crawford make some stupid athletic plays in practice during camp.

589
00:29:16,240 --> 00:29:18,080
Speaker 3: You're like, wow, you can see why they took a

590
00:29:18,080 --> 00:29:21,920
Speaker 3: shot on him in the in round seven. Because when

591
00:29:21,960 --> 00:29:25,760
Speaker 3: you just have that sort of ability, then okay, you're

592
00:29:25,760 --> 00:29:28,400
Speaker 3: willing to take a day three flyer on someone and

593
00:29:28,440 --> 00:29:30,960
Speaker 3: see if you can develop them. I thought ket Crawford

594
00:29:31,000 --> 00:29:34,640
Speaker 3: showed showed really well towards the end of last year

595
00:29:34,680 --> 00:29:37,480
Speaker 3: beyond just special teams. So all right, what does it

596
00:29:37,560 --> 00:29:41,800
Speaker 3: mean for the Cardinals? Huh? Exactly where will they specialize?

597
00:29:41,920 --> 00:29:46,480
Speaker 3: You know? Without Jonathan Gannon, Will that changed the coverage schemes?

598
00:29:47,000 --> 00:29:50,320
Speaker 3: You know, will they go from being predominantly an aggressive

599
00:29:50,440 --> 00:29:53,680
Speaker 3: zone team? Well, there'd be more man would that suito

600
00:29:53,720 --> 00:29:54,800
Speaker 3: Will Johnson better?

601
00:29:55,240 --> 00:29:55,479
Speaker 4: You know?

602
00:29:55,600 --> 00:29:58,320
Speaker 3: I mean, think of who you have in that cornerback

603
00:29:58,400 --> 00:30:02,080
Speaker 3: room alongside the safety, which I figured to be the

604
00:30:02,120 --> 00:30:06,000
Speaker 3: most competitive and contested position group on the team. You know,

605
00:30:06,040 --> 00:30:08,640
Speaker 3: do you see a transition maybe a little more press

606
00:30:08,800 --> 00:30:12,280
Speaker 3: man cover. I'm intrigued by that. Now, Nick Ross is

607
00:30:12,280 --> 00:30:14,600
Speaker 3: from the Jonathan Gann intrigue. Maybe they just stick and

608
00:30:14,600 --> 00:30:17,880
Speaker 3: stay with what they've already done, or Terreul Austin coming in.

609
00:30:18,000 --> 00:30:20,880
Speaker 3: Maybe honestly, you know a Micha Lafleur who knows the

610
00:30:20,920 --> 00:30:23,920
Speaker 3: division better than anyone and knows the minds of a

611
00:30:24,000 --> 00:30:28,240
Speaker 3: Sean McVay and Kyle Shanahan really well. Does he come

612
00:30:28,280 --> 00:30:31,920
Speaker 3: in and say, hey, this gives those division rivals more

613
00:30:31,960 --> 00:30:34,680
Speaker 3: headaches and more problems. We need to evolve and include

614
00:30:34,720 --> 00:30:36,640
Speaker 3: this in our defensive repertoire.

615
00:30:36,720 --> 00:30:39,360
Speaker 1: And how many times did we see that three safety

616
00:30:39,440 --> 00:30:44,000
Speaker 1: look last season even the previous season? Does that continue

617
00:30:44,040 --> 00:30:46,240
Speaker 1: based off the talent you have in the room or

618
00:30:46,320 --> 00:30:49,560
Speaker 1: base what you said, Okay, this is how you best

619
00:30:49,600 --> 00:30:52,760
Speaker 1: defend teams within the division, within the NFC and the

620
00:30:52,840 --> 00:30:55,040
Speaker 1: NFL overall, do you need to be a little bit

621
00:30:55,120 --> 00:30:57,640
Speaker 1: more aggressive? And again, does that go back to what

622
00:30:57,760 --> 00:30:59,800
Speaker 1: kind of a pass rush do you have? Does that

623
00:31:00,080 --> 00:31:03,080
Speaker 1: quarterback have time in the pocket to scan the field?

624
00:31:03,120 --> 00:31:05,520
Speaker 1: If so, maybe you have to adjust how you handle

625
00:31:05,560 --> 00:31:08,360
Speaker 1: the secondary, or if you do, going back to our

626
00:31:08,400 --> 00:31:11,360
Speaker 1: initial conversation at the top of the show, do you

627
00:31:11,440 --> 00:31:14,840
Speaker 1: get that David Bailey or Ruben Baying junior and all

628
00:31:14,840 --> 00:31:17,760
Speaker 1: of a sudden you've got someone to tag team with

629
00:31:18,520 --> 00:31:21,440
Speaker 1: Josh what on one side and that quarterback is getting

630
00:31:21,480 --> 00:31:24,840
Speaker 1: the ball out much quicker, and maybe that dictates how

631
00:31:24,920 --> 00:31:26,480
Speaker 1: you might handle the secondary.

632
00:31:27,120 --> 00:31:29,920
Speaker 3: Look what the Rams did and free agency trading for

633
00:31:29,960 --> 00:31:33,120
Speaker 3: Trent McDuffie and then getting Jalen Watson and then the

634
00:31:33,200 --> 00:31:36,120
Speaker 3: reaction from a Braden Fisk and Jared Burse and just

635
00:31:36,200 --> 00:31:40,680
Speaker 3: you know they were applauding that. And so if, for example,

636
00:31:41,120 --> 00:31:43,560
Speaker 3: you're a Max Melton, you know you've played a lot

637
00:31:43,600 --> 00:31:46,360
Speaker 3: of man you know in your career so far. And

638
00:31:46,560 --> 00:31:51,880
Speaker 3: if a Starling Thomas, who I have to remind myself.

639
00:31:52,000 --> 00:31:53,880
Speaker 3: I mean he was a starting corner when he went

640
00:31:53,920 --> 00:31:56,600
Speaker 3: down in camp. So a lot of these guys have

641
00:31:56,640 --> 00:31:59,200
Speaker 3: played a lot of man cover and you know they're

642
00:31:59,240 --> 00:32:02,120
Speaker 3: going to appreciate any and all pressure on the quarterback.

643
00:32:02,520 --> 00:32:06,719
Speaker 3: Try and accelerate the quarterbacks timing and the inability to

644
00:32:07,000 --> 00:32:09,280
Speaker 3: sit back there and just survey and go through his

645
00:32:09,360 --> 00:32:13,000
Speaker 3: reads and progressions. So it's always, you know, the back

646
00:32:13,120 --> 00:32:16,040
Speaker 3: end fitting the front end and vice versa. And if

647
00:32:16,080 --> 00:32:19,760
Speaker 3: the Cardinals and look NFL dot Com had that assessment,

648
00:32:19,800 --> 00:32:22,520
Speaker 3: I didn't quite realize when they stated the Cardinals as

649
00:32:22,560 --> 00:32:25,280
Speaker 3: a defense had eight sacks of the final six games

650
00:32:25,280 --> 00:32:28,080
Speaker 3: of the year. Yes, you know, and Josh Wet was

651
00:32:28,080 --> 00:32:31,120
Speaker 3: getting all that attention and as he told Danny Surret,

652
00:32:31,120 --> 00:32:34,520
Speaker 3: getting chipped into oblivion in December because you know, he

653
00:32:34,760 --> 00:32:38,400
Speaker 3: was the focus every single offensive coordinators game plan started with,

654
00:32:38,440 --> 00:32:40,640
Speaker 3: all right, we got to take care of Josh Sweat

655
00:32:40,640 --> 00:32:42,960
Speaker 3: off the edge, and then we'll see if anybody else

656
00:32:43,000 --> 00:32:45,320
Speaker 3: gives us a problem. Well, you need to have another

657
00:32:45,360 --> 00:32:49,200
Speaker 3: problem off the other side to keep these offenses honest.

658
00:32:49,760 --> 00:32:53,480
Speaker 3: And for that reason, I personally think Cardinals are gonna

659
00:32:53,440 --> 00:32:55,560
Speaker 3: go edge rusher at number three and then all right,

660
00:32:55,920 --> 00:32:57,840
Speaker 3: let's see what happens here. Because we know what Jared

661
00:32:57,880 --> 00:33:00,000
Speaker 3: Burst did, for example, for the Rams just two years

662
00:33:00,200 --> 00:33:02,560
Speaker 3: ago when he was NFL Defensive Rookie of the Year.

663
00:33:02,720 --> 00:33:05,160
Speaker 3: How well do you affect the quarterback? And it's not

664
00:33:05,200 --> 00:33:07,520
Speaker 3: so much the sacks, but the pressures. Are you making

665
00:33:07,560 --> 00:33:11,680
Speaker 3: that quarterback uncomfortable? And I think Paul based on your

666
00:33:11,800 --> 00:33:15,080
Speaker 3: viewpoint from the sideline. Too many times last season that

667
00:33:15,200 --> 00:33:18,920
Speaker 3: quarterback was able to stand tall and just kind of

668
00:33:18,960 --> 00:33:22,920
Speaker 3: bounce around and take his time. And maybe I'm exaggerating

669
00:33:22,960 --> 00:33:25,680
Speaker 3: a little bit, but again, a split second, a half

670
00:33:25,760 --> 00:33:28,480
Speaker 3: a second here or there means a ton if you're

671
00:33:28,560 --> 00:33:31,880
Speaker 3: certainly a Will Johnson or a Denzel Burke trying to

672
00:33:31,920 --> 00:33:36,000
Speaker 3: cover a receiver, especially someone within your division. I don't

673
00:33:36,000 --> 00:33:38,239
Speaker 3: care how good you are and your coverage skills. If

674
00:33:38,280 --> 00:33:41,520
Speaker 3: you're asked to cover just a little bit longer, you're

675
00:33:41,560 --> 00:33:45,080
Speaker 3: going to eventually get beat. Because we're just gonna go

676
00:33:45,080 --> 00:33:48,000
Speaker 3: ahead and pencil and Walter Nolan. Please let Walter Nolan

677
00:33:48,080 --> 00:33:50,440
Speaker 3: be healthy to start the season, because the only thing

678
00:33:50,480 --> 00:33:54,160
Speaker 3: that stopped Walter Nolan last year was injury. It wasn't

679
00:33:54,200 --> 00:33:57,720
Speaker 3: any offensive lineman who really stopped Walter Nolan is pass

680
00:33:57,760 --> 00:34:02,280
Speaker 3: pressure rate and albeit very limited sample size of snaps,

681
00:34:02,280 --> 00:34:04,960
Speaker 3: but he would have led the league in pressure rate

682
00:34:05,040 --> 00:34:07,760
Speaker 3: for a defensive tackle. So if you can just keep

683
00:34:07,840 --> 00:34:11,640
Speaker 3: him healthy and when he's bringing that sort of disruption

684
00:34:11,800 --> 00:34:14,960
Speaker 3: from the interior D line, plush Josh Sweat who you

685
00:34:15,000 --> 00:34:17,560
Speaker 3: figure knock on wood, He's gonna be healthy as well,

686
00:34:17,680 --> 00:34:20,200
Speaker 3: much healthier than he was at the end of last season.

687
00:34:20,880 --> 00:34:23,200
Speaker 3: And then if you have a rookie off the other side,

688
00:34:23,280 --> 00:34:27,120
Speaker 3: is worth surmising and speculating. Okay, all of a sudden,

689
00:34:27,600 --> 00:34:30,880
Speaker 3: it's far from just offensive coordinators having the luxury of

690
00:34:31,080 --> 00:34:33,719
Speaker 3: just worrying about Josh Swett giving that side of the

691
00:34:33,760 --> 00:34:36,160
Speaker 3: line a little extra attention and then they feel like

692
00:34:36,160 --> 00:34:38,279
Speaker 3: they're all good. No, now you've got to worry about

693
00:34:38,280 --> 00:34:41,920
Speaker 3: Walter Nolan bum rushing the a ARB gap. Here's a rookie,

694
00:34:42,000 --> 00:34:44,919
Speaker 3: highly athletic coming off the other side. I mean that

695
00:34:45,360 --> 00:34:48,680
Speaker 3: can transform a defense. And to circle back to your

696
00:34:48,680 --> 00:34:52,160
Speaker 3: original point, that could make a secondary look really good,

697
00:34:52,600 --> 00:34:55,880
Speaker 3: really quickly. And Will Johnson we know his ability to

698
00:34:56,000 --> 00:34:59,879
Speaker 3: ballhawk a Max Melton, even going all the way down

699
00:35:00,120 --> 00:35:02,040
Speaker 3: depth chart to what we saw in the last game

700
00:35:02,040 --> 00:35:07,640
Speaker 3: from Elijah Jones, there are some intriguing possibilities. And so

701
00:35:07,880 --> 00:35:10,400
Speaker 3: for that reason, with the return of Mac Wilson Senior,

702
00:35:10,440 --> 00:35:13,160
Speaker 3: again you pray he's healthy and he picks up exactly

703
00:35:13,200 --> 00:35:15,200
Speaker 3: where he left off. He was tracking to have a

704
00:35:15,239 --> 00:35:18,360
Speaker 3: Pro Bowl caliber season, made so many plays, so many tackles,

705
00:35:19,040 --> 00:35:22,600
Speaker 3: and I just think that that one edition a you

706
00:35:22,640 --> 00:35:25,480
Speaker 3: get healthy, and then be that one edition of a

707
00:35:25,680 --> 00:35:30,400
Speaker 3: really talented edge rusher, a rookie at number three overall,

708
00:35:30,880 --> 00:35:34,040
Speaker 3: and then the competition, iron sharpening and iron in that

709
00:35:34,160 --> 00:35:37,800
Speaker 3: cornerback room, the addition you made with Wingert and hopefully

710
00:35:37,800 --> 00:35:40,319
Speaker 3: the evolution of Rabbit to join Buddha Baker, one of

711
00:35:40,320 --> 00:35:42,400
Speaker 3: the best in the biz. And all of a sudden,

712
00:35:42,440 --> 00:35:45,440
Speaker 3: guess what, all three levels of your defense just got better.

713
00:35:45,719 --> 00:35:48,720
Speaker 1: Cardinals will be on the clock in less than a month.

714
00:35:49,080 --> 00:35:53,480
Speaker 1: Now what's ahead as far as what's next for the NFL,

715
00:35:53,560 --> 00:35:57,480
Speaker 1: And that is what is happening next week here in Arizona,

716
00:35:57,520 --> 00:36:01,960
Speaker 1: specifically at the Biltmore. The NFL Love's coming to Arizona.

717
00:36:02,000 --> 00:36:04,200
Speaker 1: Believe it's every other year or every two years. It's

718
00:36:04,239 --> 00:36:08,040
Speaker 1: either Arizona or Florida. The annual league meeting is taking

719
00:36:08,080 --> 00:36:11,040
Speaker 1: place next week. We will hear for the first time

720
00:36:11,200 --> 00:36:14,080
Speaker 1: since the scouting combined from head coach Micha Lafleur. He'll

721
00:36:14,120 --> 00:36:17,120
Speaker 1: meet with the media on Monday in a very informal setting.

722
00:36:17,160 --> 00:36:21,400
Speaker 1: It's more of a breakfast style beat riders talking heads

723
00:36:21,400 --> 00:36:24,200
Speaker 1: from around the league will converge, jump from one table

724
00:36:24,239 --> 00:36:27,560
Speaker 1: to the next, ask coaches about other coaches, or ask

725
00:36:27,640 --> 00:36:32,120
Speaker 1: about potential rule changes, And there's not a ton paul

726
00:36:32,239 --> 00:36:34,480
Speaker 1: that could be decided next week, but there are a

727
00:36:34,520 --> 00:36:36,600
Speaker 1: couple at least want to get out there and maybe

728
00:36:36,600 --> 00:36:39,400
Speaker 1: get your opinion. The biggest one that I can see

729
00:36:39,440 --> 00:36:44,120
Speaker 1: that fans might like a lot more is allowing kicking

730
00:36:44,160 --> 00:36:48,160
Speaker 1: teams to declare an on sidekick at any time during

731
00:36:48,200 --> 00:36:50,760
Speaker 1: the game. As opposed to what we saw last season.

732
00:36:51,120 --> 00:36:54,279
Speaker 1: You had to be trailing, so now you could do

733
00:36:54,320 --> 00:36:57,960
Speaker 1: it if you're ahead. How many teams are gonna do that,

734
00:36:58,160 --> 00:37:01,520
Speaker 1: especially when you still have to declare it? Surprise, But

735
00:37:01,760 --> 00:37:04,839
Speaker 1: that's one of the talking points that could change going

736
00:37:04,880 --> 00:37:05,879
Speaker 1: into twenty twenty six.

737
00:37:05,960 --> 00:37:08,719
Speaker 3: I mean, show a hands who doesn't look forward to

738
00:37:08,800 --> 00:37:11,560
Speaker 3: an onside kick, right? I mean, come on, it's you know,

739
00:37:11,640 --> 00:37:14,920
Speaker 3: it doesn't matter if it's allowed all game or not.

740
00:37:15,080 --> 00:37:17,520
Speaker 3: It's still going to be a rare happening in football,

741
00:37:17,600 --> 00:37:20,919
Speaker 3: so everyone looks forward to it. It's really unique, it's

742
00:37:20,960 --> 00:37:24,520
Speaker 3: really impactful. I get it. The NFL predicase a lot

743
00:37:24,560 --> 00:37:28,839
Speaker 3: of these decisions on players safety, player health, but from

744
00:37:28,840 --> 00:37:32,400
Speaker 3: all indications, at least what I've seen, the number of

745
00:37:32,440 --> 00:37:36,920
Speaker 3: injuries came way down on the newly revised and formulated kickoff.

746
00:37:37,480 --> 00:37:40,560
Speaker 3: So without guys running forty yards and getting ahead of

747
00:37:40,600 --> 00:37:45,400
Speaker 3: steam and those high speed collisions, you've mitigated that and

748
00:37:45,440 --> 00:37:48,160
Speaker 3: you've brought down the number of injuries the percentage of

749
00:37:48,239 --> 00:37:51,040
Speaker 3: least that have been suffered on kickoffs. So maybe, just

750
00:37:51,120 --> 00:37:56,160
Speaker 3: maybe that allows for the NFL to reintroduce the ability

751
00:37:56,200 --> 00:37:59,080
Speaker 3: for a team to declare an on side kick at

752
00:37:59,120 --> 00:38:02,520
Speaker 3: any point in the game, because you know, there are

753
00:38:03,000 --> 00:38:05,719
Speaker 3: more than ever these head coaches we see it UNFOURD down.

754
00:38:05,880 --> 00:38:10,400
Speaker 3: They're willing to gamble, and the analytics and sort of

755
00:38:10,440 --> 00:38:12,680
Speaker 3: that voice in their headset that's up in the booth,

756
00:38:12,719 --> 00:38:16,279
Speaker 3: the analytics guy has crunched the numbers. Then all of

757
00:38:16,280 --> 00:38:18,759
Speaker 3: a sudden, you know you might see it in certain

758
00:38:18,880 --> 00:38:22,279
Speaker 3: situations and that element of surprise. Even though you have

759
00:38:22,360 --> 00:38:24,960
Speaker 3: to declare it, guess what, the other team still has

760
00:38:25,040 --> 00:38:27,959
Speaker 3: to stop it. And especially if you get down early

761
00:38:28,000 --> 00:38:30,239
Speaker 3: in a game, like let's say you get really down,

762
00:38:30,560 --> 00:38:32,480
Speaker 3: there's some torn of events or you know, there's a

763
00:38:32,480 --> 00:38:36,400
Speaker 3: pick six, something fluky happens, you should be should have

764
00:38:36,440 --> 00:38:39,760
Speaker 3: the ability to at least try and target and extra

765
00:38:39,800 --> 00:38:41,239
Speaker 3: possession via the onside kick.

766
00:38:41,320 --> 00:38:43,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, can you steal a position to get you back

767
00:38:43,680 --> 00:38:46,239
Speaker 1: in the ballgame, even if it might be late in

768
00:38:46,280 --> 00:38:50,640
Speaker 1: the first half. Now, last season, recovering an on sidekick

769
00:38:51,160 --> 00:38:54,080
Speaker 1: very unsuccessful. In fact, less than ten percent five of

770
00:38:54,200 --> 00:38:58,800
Speaker 1: fifty two was the exact stat. Now, unfortunately, the Cardinals

771
00:38:58,800 --> 00:39:02,840
Speaker 1: were the victim of a team that was unsuccessful in

772
00:39:02,960 --> 00:39:06,640
Speaker 1: recovering and on sidekick. The Panthers back in Week two, Paul,

773
00:39:06,680 --> 00:39:10,920
Speaker 1: if you can remember, recovered an on sidekick. Now, Cardinals

774
00:39:10,960 --> 00:39:13,279
Speaker 1: won that game, but that was one of the rare

775
00:39:13,280 --> 00:39:17,160
Speaker 1: occurrences in which a team recovered an on sidekick, and

776
00:39:17,200 --> 00:39:20,680
Speaker 1: it happened Week two, and Jeff Rodgers was not too

777
00:39:20,760 --> 00:39:24,040
Speaker 1: pleased on the sideline or even the Tuesday when he

778
00:39:24,040 --> 00:39:26,279
Speaker 1: met with the media after the fact. So, look, it

779
00:39:26,320 --> 00:39:28,600
Speaker 1: doesn't happen a lot. And I don't think you'll ever

780
00:39:28,719 --> 00:39:32,360
Speaker 1: get rid of the declaration part of it because of

781
00:39:32,400 --> 00:39:36,000
Speaker 1: how the dynamic kickoff is set up anyway, so you

782
00:39:36,080 --> 00:39:38,520
Speaker 1: have to declare. But at least now perhaps you can

783
00:39:38,560 --> 00:39:42,799
Speaker 1: be ahead as opposed to trailing if you're looking to

784
00:39:42,800 --> 00:39:45,240
Speaker 1: gain a little bit more separation between you and the opponent.

785
00:39:45,600 --> 00:39:47,800
Speaker 3: And you know what, it's bragging rights for the kicker

786
00:39:47,840 --> 00:39:50,440
Speaker 3: as well. You know, the kickers pride themselves on the

787
00:39:50,480 --> 00:39:54,760
Speaker 3: ability to know what essentially amounts to a trick shot

788
00:39:54,880 --> 00:39:56,839
Speaker 3: in a lot of ways, And a lot of these

789
00:39:56,920 --> 00:40:01,080
Speaker 3: kickers have so many different skills, so I always enjoy

790
00:40:01,239 --> 00:40:03,399
Speaker 3: just seeing it their ability to pull it off. Can

791
00:40:03,400 --> 00:40:07,800
Speaker 3: they actually put it into play and get that desired

792
00:40:07,880 --> 00:40:10,360
Speaker 3: bounce where someone can pounce on it, and then you

793
00:40:10,400 --> 00:40:12,680
Speaker 3: find out real quick who's willing to jump on that

794
00:40:12,719 --> 00:40:15,720
Speaker 3: ball and who isn't. And it just to me, especially

795
00:40:15,760 --> 00:40:18,400
Speaker 3: from the sideline, it's one of the Sometimes you have

796
00:40:18,400 --> 00:40:20,640
Speaker 3: the best view from the sidelines, sometimes the worst, but

797
00:40:21,040 --> 00:40:23,200
Speaker 3: an on side kick, especially if it's coming to your

798
00:40:23,280 --> 00:40:26,600
Speaker 3: side of the field, look out, I mean, that's great viewing.

799
00:40:26,760 --> 00:40:29,960
Speaker 1: There's some other kickoff proposals, some tweaks on where you

800
00:40:30,080 --> 00:40:34,080
Speaker 1: have to be standing as far as the return team

801
00:40:34,320 --> 00:40:37,960
Speaker 1: and the coverage units. One of the rule changes that

802
00:40:38,000 --> 00:40:40,920
Speaker 1: I think is only going to get louder even if

803
00:40:40,920 --> 00:40:44,560
Speaker 1: it passes. But pay attention to this because for one

804
00:40:44,640 --> 00:40:50,320
Speaker 1: year only, the NFL Officiating Department will allow to correct

805
00:40:50,560 --> 00:40:54,359
Speaker 1: clear and obvious misses made by on field officials that

806
00:40:54,520 --> 00:40:57,239
Speaker 1: impact the game. Why do I say this is for

807
00:40:57,320 --> 00:41:00,000
Speaker 1: one year only, It's in the events of a word

808
00:41:00,160 --> 00:41:03,759
Speaker 1: stoppage with the officials, because that is something that has

809
00:41:03,840 --> 00:41:05,840
Speaker 1: kind of flown under the radar a little bit here

810
00:41:06,040 --> 00:41:08,560
Speaker 1: in middle of March. It's only going to gain steam

811
00:41:08,600 --> 00:41:11,920
Speaker 1: if we revert back to what happened in twenty twelve

812
00:41:11,960 --> 00:41:14,640
Speaker 1: when there were replacement officials, and Paul's got a great

813
00:41:14,680 --> 00:41:18,920
Speaker 1: story on the Cardinals sideline where you had players telling

814
00:41:18,960 --> 00:41:24,280
Speaker 1: officials the rules of the game during the game. So

815
00:41:24,320 --> 00:41:27,879
Speaker 1: this would allow for some oversight, if you will. If

816
00:41:28,080 --> 00:41:30,760
Speaker 1: in the event, and hopefully we don't get to that point,

817
00:41:30,800 --> 00:41:34,960
Speaker 1: but if replacement officials are needed, then now you've got

818
00:41:35,120 --> 00:41:37,480
Speaker 1: big brother, if you will, looking over ahead said no,

819
00:41:37,640 --> 00:41:38,080
Speaker 1: you miss that.

820
00:41:38,480 --> 00:41:43,720
Speaker 3: Correct it to this two words fail Mary. The day

821
00:41:43,760 --> 00:41:47,759
Speaker 3: after the night after this story on the sideline where

822
00:41:47,800 --> 00:41:51,439
Speaker 3: the replacement refs were consulting Jay Feely and Mike Leach

823
00:41:52,160 --> 00:41:54,680
Speaker 3: about the NFL rule book, because remember these aren't like

824
00:41:54,800 --> 00:41:57,279
Speaker 3: D one refs you have to go down to it's

825
00:41:57,280 --> 00:42:01,359
Speaker 3: either Division III and or NAIA. So look, they're given

826
00:42:01,400 --> 00:42:05,280
Speaker 3: their best effort, but there's a reason they're in small

827
00:42:05,280 --> 00:42:09,360
Speaker 3: college games, and the rule book can be very different

828
00:42:09,480 --> 00:42:12,760
Speaker 3: in certain aspects than the NFL. So yes, Jay Feeley

829
00:42:12,800 --> 00:42:14,560
Speaker 3: and Mike Leach who are masters of the rulebook and

830
00:42:14,680 --> 00:42:17,640
Speaker 3: ultra veterans at that point were literally coaching them up

831
00:42:17,680 --> 00:42:19,600
Speaker 3: during TV breaks and letting them know where they were

832
00:42:19,680 --> 00:42:21,560
Speaker 3: right and where they were wrong. And then guys are

833
00:42:21,560 --> 00:42:24,400
Speaker 3: coming over to consult and seek inpinions and wait a minute,

834
00:42:24,600 --> 00:42:26,960
Speaker 3: is this rule apply in this way in this league, etc.

835
00:42:27,200 --> 00:42:27,399
Speaker 4: Etc.

836
00:42:27,640 --> 00:42:30,560
Speaker 3: But then the very night next night, Monday night, Packers

837
00:42:30,600 --> 00:42:34,520
Speaker 3: Seahawks and Packer fans still a PTSD about it. They

838
00:42:34,520 --> 00:42:36,680
Speaker 3: see the words replacement refs and they go into the

839
00:42:36,719 --> 00:42:38,960
Speaker 3: feudal position. At this point because of the fail Mary

840
00:42:39,280 --> 00:42:42,359
Speaker 3: that basically stole a win from the Packers on Monday night,

841
00:42:42,800 --> 00:42:45,600
Speaker 3: and it was so bereft of any real credibility, the

842
00:42:45,719 --> 00:42:47,760
Speaker 3: NFL realized they had a problem, and it was amazing

843
00:42:47,800 --> 00:42:51,200
Speaker 3: how twenty four hours later the entire, the entire negotiation

844
00:42:51,400 --> 00:42:55,080
Speaker 3: with the referees was settled, and so yes, this gives

845
00:42:55,120 --> 00:42:57,880
Speaker 3: them the ability to correct an egregious.

846
00:42:57,320 --> 00:43:00,319
Speaker 1: Air one official on that pail Mary signal touch down,

847
00:43:00,320 --> 00:43:03,200
Speaker 1: the other one saying incomplete. There was discussion a lot

848
00:43:03,200 --> 00:43:05,640
Speaker 1: of back and forth. It was not a lot of

849
00:43:05,640 --> 00:43:09,360
Speaker 1: fun for either those two teams or the NFL and Craig.

850
00:43:10,360 --> 00:43:15,520
Speaker 3: What's different from twenty twelve, the proliferation of legal gambling,

851
00:43:16,640 --> 00:43:19,120
Speaker 3: and the NFL has been at the forefront of it

852
00:43:19,239 --> 00:43:23,560
Speaker 3: in a lot of ways, and they have actual league partners,

853
00:43:23,800 --> 00:43:28,360
Speaker 3: and so it's in everyone's best interests to do anything

854
00:43:28,360 --> 00:43:33,200
Speaker 3: and everything you can to reduce any sort of shortcomings

855
00:43:33,320 --> 00:43:38,160
Speaker 3: in officiating, reduce any sort of noise or controversy about

856
00:43:38,200 --> 00:43:43,040
Speaker 3: certain calls, which then can tie directly into outcomes of games.

857
00:43:43,840 --> 00:43:46,160
Speaker 1: The other interesting this is not a real change, but

858
00:43:46,239 --> 00:43:50,400
Speaker 1: this is a club proposal which could really make things interesting,

859
00:43:50,560 --> 00:43:54,360
Speaker 1: certainly ahead of the draft and silly seasons moving forward.

860
00:43:54,760 --> 00:43:58,440
Speaker 1: The Browns have a proposal that would allow draft selections

861
00:43:58,440 --> 00:44:01,640
Speaker 1: to be traded up to five seasons in the future,

862
00:44:01,640 --> 00:44:04,120
Speaker 1: as opposed to right now it's three seasons in the future.

863
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Speaker 1: So if this happens so twenty twenty seven, conceivably you

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Speaker 1: could trade a first round pick or a future second

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Speaker 1: going as far as twenty thirty one, which seems so

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Speaker 1: far out into the future, and general managers only care

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Speaker 1: about the now. They don't care about the future as

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Speaker 1: far as that far down the line. So we'll give

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Speaker 1: you the first round pick five years from now in

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Speaker 1: order to move up five spots to get our guy.

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Speaker 3: Do you have an opinion on that one way or

872
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Speaker 3: the other? I mean, do you do you feel strongly

873
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Speaker 3: one way or the other. I'm trying to figure out

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Speaker 3: how to feel on that. I think in some ways

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Speaker 3: I'm almost inclined to stick with the three year term because,

876
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Speaker 3: you know what, it's not a bad thing to save

877
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Speaker 3: certain general managers from themselves, save certain owners from themselves.

878
00:44:52,680 --> 00:44:56,600
Speaker 3: The all in mentality, I want it now, right here,

879
00:44:56,920 --> 00:45:00,800
Speaker 3: right now, and you know what, the whole forget them picks,

880
00:45:01,320 --> 00:45:05,840
Speaker 3: forget them football future. And then I just think I

881
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Speaker 3: think there's some merit in just capping it at three

882
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Speaker 3: years and saving some of these decision makers from their

883
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Speaker 3: own aggressiveness.

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Speaker 1: Unless you're the Los Angeles Rams. Team president Kevin Demoff

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Speaker 1: weighed in on this on Twitter recently. He wrote, in part,

886
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Speaker 1: nothing creates more interest in the NFL than trades. He

887
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Speaker 1: added this, more picks to trade equals more trades equals

888
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Speaker 1: more interest and team building options, said by the organization

889
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Speaker 1: that has traded its first round pick nine times over

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Speaker 1: the last ten years.

891
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Speaker 3: I get it. I get it, But you know, you

892
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Speaker 3: get a GM or a decision maker in the final

893
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Speaker 3: year of a contract and maybe they're feeling the personal

894
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Speaker 3: heat and so then all of a sudden, their personal

895
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Speaker 3: interests are ahead of the team interests, and I just

896
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Speaker 3: there's potential there for things to go sideways quickly. But

897
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Speaker 3: at the same time, you know, the Rams have done

898
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Speaker 3: a very good job. Obviously, there's also potential for certain

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Speaker 3: teams to distance themselves from other teams, you know, in

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Speaker 3: an even greater fashion. Look at the Rams went into

901
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Speaker 3: this offseason with two first round picks, and they converted

902
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Speaker 3: one into Trent McDuffie, and they brought in one of

903
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Speaker 3: the best corners in the league, all because the year

904
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Speaker 3: before they made a pretty shrewd trade with Atlanta because

905
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Speaker 3: Atlanta wanted James Pierce Junior wanted to get back into

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Speaker 3: the first round.

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Speaker 1: Yeah how'd that go for them? Yeah? Very well for

908
00:46:33,239 --> 00:46:36,960
Speaker 1: the Rams, not so much for Atlanta. Any rule change,

909
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Speaker 1: any proposal needs twenty four of thirty two owners to

910
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Speaker 1: vote in favor for it to become official. So keep

911
00:46:43,719 --> 00:46:46,200
Speaker 1: an eye on early next week as far as what

912
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Speaker 1: may or may not happen. And of course things get

913
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Speaker 1: tabled for later on in the offseason or later into

914
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Speaker 1: the season. But that's the next item on the NFL calendar,

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Speaker 1: the annual league meeting happening next week. I'm not exactly

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Speaker 1: sure that perhaps when you schedule this and you look

917
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Speaker 1: at Phoenix in March, you're like, Okay, great uper eighties,

918
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Speaker 1: low nineties, great get out of the East Coast and

919
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Speaker 1: bad weather. Yeah, triple digits in the forecast at least

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Speaker 1: for the rest of this week. And I haven't quite

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Speaker 1: looked at early next week. But I don't know. Do

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Speaker 1: you trade in your snowshovel for sunshine if you're an

923
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Speaker 1: NFL owner on the East Coast, I would think I

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Speaker 1: would think you'd do that ten times out of ten times.

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Speaker 3: Well, it's gonna be better than it was next week,

926
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Speaker 3: should be better than it was last week. Put it

927
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Speaker 3: that way when we did hit one o three to

928
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Speaker 3: one oh six five days in a row, making for

929
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Speaker 3: the hottest March in Phoenix history in multiple ways, record

930
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Speaker 3: breaking in every single way this month. So guess what.

931
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Speaker 3: April folds might not be a bad thing. And the

932
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Speaker 3: owner's meetings, we should be out there for the Mike

933
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Speaker 3: Lafleur breakfast meet and greet with the media. Always a

934
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Speaker 3: good time. I'm to sort of engage with an NFL

935
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Speaker 3: head coach, and you get a real sense in terms

936
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Speaker 3: of me. I go back to like Cliff Kingsbury, that

937
00:48:07,280 --> 00:48:09,399
Speaker 3: was for really the first time his first meeting there.

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Speaker 3: He kind of got a sense as to his personality

939
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Speaker 3: is exceptional, sense of humor, self deprecating in a lot

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Speaker 3: of ways. But then you got a little view window

941
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Speaker 3: into what sort of offense he was gonna run. And

942
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Speaker 3: I think a lot of people asking themselves that as well,

943
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Speaker 3: all Right, what is this Cardinals offense gonna look like?

944
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Speaker 3: I know the players are very intrigued, There's no doubt

945
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Speaker 3: about it.

946
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Speaker 1: It's a much more relaxed setting the annual league meeting,

947
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Speaker 1: at least it is for the coaches that are an attendance.

948
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Speaker 1: So we will be there on Monday. What will be

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Speaker 1: there all week long at asycardinals dot com for the

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Speaker 1: latest concerning the Cardinals and perhaps concerning the NFL as

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Speaker 1: a league overall. And on that note, we will put

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Speaker 1: a lid on this edition of Cardinals Cover two, presented

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Speaker 1: by Hundai Pro partner of the Arizona Cardinals. As always,

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Speaker 1: special thanks to our executive producer Jim Amhindre our associate

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Speaker 1: producer Coddy Fincher for Paul Calvic, I'm Greig Rayelou. We'll

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Speaker 1: talk to you next time you're on Cardinals cover two

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Speaker 3: Mm hm