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Speaker 1: All right, e y l We're back special episode. We

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Speaker 1: got the Good Brother. Two chains in the building and

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Speaker 1: Tony Man. I ain't know he was doing this, man, Yeah, well,

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Speaker 1: you know I would have came. I would have came.

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Speaker 1: I thought it was just you know, we got the

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Speaker 1: book coming out. I ain't know what he was.

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Speaker 2: Doing putting that energy out.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, jumping and play a partner partner.

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Speaker 2: No, man, it's cool. It's cold.

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Speaker 4: I'm in We're in New York, so I could just

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Speaker 4: paint the picture for the internet, those who are watching.

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Speaker 4: We're in New York. I think the lower in his teens,

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Speaker 4: highs in its upper twenties or something. I'm from the

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Speaker 4: lane tip, y'all don't know. I'm from the South, so

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Speaker 4: it's it's extremely cold to me. And then when you

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Speaker 4: have a when you have a fit like this, it's

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Speaker 4: not too many places you can wear.

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Speaker 2: That's a fa.

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Speaker 4: When you see something say twenty three degree, grab, grab

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Speaker 4: my hat.

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Speaker 5: Hat, boots, pan out so we can see. We got

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Speaker 5: to get the boots, can we see?

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Speaker 2: All right? Bo, that's the shot.

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Speaker 1: Well, first and foremost, congratulations, my brother, thank you, we

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Speaker 1: got the book. This is uh the voice in my

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Speaker 1: head is God, so we're gonna talk about this. I'm

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Speaker 1: glad to see it come to fruition because you did

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Speaker 1: invest fast for us last year. Thank you for doing that.

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Speaker 1: And I was talking to Tech, your manager about the

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Speaker 1: book last year last summer, so I know how long

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Speaker 1: these book cycles work. So to see it come to fruition, now,

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Speaker 1: how does this make you feel?

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Speaker 2: Just eager?

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Speaker 4: You know, it feels like an album, even the rollout,

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Speaker 4: what I'm doing, different podcasts, different interviews. You know, the

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Speaker 4: subject that I'm touching on, maybe new to a fan

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Speaker 4: of mine. Some of this the material in the book

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Speaker 4: I haven't discussed and uh in music or in interviews,

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Speaker 4: but just the release, knowing that it's here, just I'm

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Speaker 4: just seeing. I'm excited for people to not only read

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Speaker 4: because I'm a I'm I'm a great reader.

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Speaker 3: You read it, yeah, I read it.

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Speaker 2: That's hard. And then I also added production like a

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Speaker 2: score to it.

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Speaker 4: Right mm, So when I'm reading these certain scenes, you

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Speaker 4: able to feel the actual scene is very cinematic because

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Speaker 4: the different scenes. So I I'm excited about the audio book,

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Speaker 4: but it's a good read.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I say the the clip dropped earlier with the

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Speaker 5: the the cartoon uh of you at the All Star

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Speaker 5: Game out though this is dope.

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Speaker 3: This is exactly what it should be.

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Speaker 2: MM.

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Speaker 5: I wanted as you went into the process, obviously you've

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Speaker 5: put out album before you compared it to the rollout?

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Speaker 3: What was it like?

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Speaker 5: Oh, why that wasn't necessary to put out literature at

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Speaker 2: Right?

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Speaker 3: Like we know the legendary music career. Why literature right now?

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Speaker 4: I I said this previously, but I think growth without

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Speaker 4: reflection is just noise. Just keep growing, so you have to.

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Speaker 4: For me, this book is about me reflecting. It's about

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Speaker 4: me giving myself grace, acknowledging my longevity, acknowledging the things

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Speaker 2: It's not.

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Speaker 4: So much about me pivoting away from anything. It's just

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Speaker 4: Me putting out you know, musical compositions, me even putting

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Speaker 2: But to also I I.

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Speaker 4: Look at it like, uh, my way of giving back

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Speaker 4: to me personally, It's the reason why I'm sitting right

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Speaker 2: So this book is it's it h It.

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Speaker 1: Heard that before, somebody said that your intuition is God's.

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Speaker 1: Is God whispering to you man like? So I'm assuming

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Speaker 4: On the same people. That's it, bro, That's that's I mean,

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Speaker 4: we could. I don't want to end it right here,

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Speaker 4: listening to something that that can't nobody else here it's

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Speaker 4: My divine guidance has helped me make business decisions, properties

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Speaker 4: small scale. So this book is like something I'm giving

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Speaker 5: Them into intuition, setting in like Stee's vision when you

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Speaker 4: At that moment when the approached me about writing a book,

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Speaker 4: me out of love, because that's what God is. It's

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Speaker 4: And so then it became time to glue at it together,

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Speaker 4: I don't know, ma'am. It's just for this right here.

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Speaker 4: I think I'm being very, very vulnerable. But at the

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Speaker 4: same time it's therapeutic for me because I'm able to

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Speaker 4: really I can really feel eyes, I can feel with

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Speaker 4: I think women are superheroes. These are just some chapters

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Speaker 4: that's in the book. All this stuff is very relative

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Speaker 2: So some experts some excerpts from the book.

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Speaker 1: Your mom was a loan officer, Yeah, right, state real

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Speaker 1: estate loan officer. So how did that exposure to real

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Speaker 4: Like my mama did real estate. My daddy hustle. I

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Speaker 4: I don't know what you're around or what you see

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Speaker 4: this short fem Red Clay, and it's, uh, it's about

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Speaker 4: my life as well, non fiction. But you know, I

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Speaker 2: And I never knew why. I said, Mama, how we

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Speaker 4: And but we had a house, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 5: You talk about betting on yourself inside the book as well,

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Speaker 5: we knew Duffel back Boy, but before that it was

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Speaker 1: I'm here, sound thou the story of a hundred thousand

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Speaker 4: I remember showing I remember I had a show in Memphis. No,

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Speaker 2: Back in you know what I'm saying. I just you know,

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Speaker 4: This is running time. I'm just starting to get on.

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Speaker 3: You make the first million, right, I wonder what the

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Speaker 4: Is it telling me to buy some cars, telling me

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Speaker 5: I was like, man, again, sometimes you gotta go through

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Speaker 4: No, So what I did was this is what I did.

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Speaker 4: it just hit me. I was gonna buy a may Back, right,

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Speaker 4: That was like an investment because like I got my

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Speaker 1: As far as points, we had about points all the time,

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Speaker 4: That I cannot explain it. I can't explain, but I

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Speaker 2: It's like a percentage. It's a percentage. Yeah, that's a

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Speaker 4: It's a percentage, but it's not like one percent of

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Speaker 2: I really didn't it was worth it. It was worth it, man.

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Speaker 4: And like I'm telling you, when you listen to that voice,

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Speaker 2: Back ten everything came back tenfold.

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Speaker 5: You would obviously you better on yourself. You win, But

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Speaker 5: then people are coming back to you right now, labels

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Speaker 3: At the time. I think this is like three sixty

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Speaker 2: You didn't do that, and.

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Speaker 5: Listen to the voice talk about that and saying like yo,

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Speaker 3: I'm not doing that. How it works out in your advantage?

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Speaker 4: Well, three Sisters came became very popular. I don't know, man,

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Speaker 4: So basically what the label is saying and I totally

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Speaker 4: I want you to do this Pepps commercial. And then

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Speaker 3: I had already been to places like that independently. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: I already like been the eye at the home to

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Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. I'm going, you know, on

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Speaker 3: culture bro, I go to Main, I go to Main.

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Speaker 4: What I'm looking for I'm looking for when I go

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Speaker 3: Man, look, so that's what I'm doing. I'm doing this

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Speaker 4: I'm going to places. Man, as soon as I'm laying

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Speaker 4: what did choose? You know what I'm saying, I'm going

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Speaker 4: I won't be known, you know, all over the world

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Speaker 4: of explaining. They just was like, this is what it is,

440
00:21:41,240 --> 00:21:42,440
Speaker 4: and you know, but.

441
00:21:42,400 --> 00:21:42,960
Speaker 2: We're here now.

442
00:21:43,119 --> 00:21:46,240
Speaker 4: So that was my first run with like death Jam,

443
00:21:46,400 --> 00:21:49,000
Speaker 4: like my first solo deal with Depth Jam was probably

444
00:21:49,040 --> 00:21:50,960
Speaker 4: like it felt like something.

445
00:21:50,720 --> 00:21:53,960
Speaker 3: Lebron would do. Or Rich Paul, would you know it

446
00:21:54,040 --> 00:21:54,600
Speaker 3: felt that way.

447
00:21:54,640 --> 00:21:57,800
Speaker 4: I had like I had a four album deal, which

448
00:21:57,840 --> 00:22:01,040
Speaker 4: is like everybody be having like six five album like

449
00:22:01,080 --> 00:22:05,880
Speaker 4: a four album deal, No, three sixty. Then after that

450
00:22:06,560 --> 00:22:09,399
Speaker 4: I would just sign for one album. I don't know,

451
00:22:09,440 --> 00:22:11,359
Speaker 4: let me think about it. You know what I'm saying,

452
00:22:11,359 --> 00:22:12,720
Speaker 4: just on some some rich part.

453
00:22:14,680 --> 00:22:15,360
Speaker 2: Your extension.

454
00:22:15,440 --> 00:22:17,560
Speaker 4: Yeah, just one one more album, man, I'll let you know.

455
00:22:17,840 --> 00:22:19,760
Speaker 4: And now, I mean I was going I'm independent now,

456
00:22:19,840 --> 00:22:23,560
Speaker 4: but I remember I was gonna be independent five six

457
00:22:23,640 --> 00:22:26,520
Speaker 4: years ago. Did the Pandemic hit. And then then I

458
00:22:26,520 --> 00:22:31,240
Speaker 4: started getting in line. I said this scary. Yes, I'm signing, man,

459
00:22:31,320 --> 00:22:32,080
Speaker 4: for sure, I'm signing.

460
00:22:32,119 --> 00:22:33,399
Speaker 3: What's wrong with y'all? You're crazy?

461
00:22:33,840 --> 00:22:34,080
Speaker 2: Yeah?

462
00:22:34,119 --> 00:22:34,800
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying.

463
00:22:35,320 --> 00:22:39,960
Speaker 4: The lever started kind of switching when that Pandemic hit. Shoot,

464
00:22:40,600 --> 00:22:43,399
Speaker 4: but yeah, man, you said something, you said something. You

465
00:22:43,400 --> 00:22:47,639
Speaker 4: said the record label was like creating. They add bulk,

466
00:22:47,800 --> 00:22:51,920
Speaker 4: but they don't create muscle. That's that's interesting. Some stuff

467
00:22:51,920 --> 00:22:56,119
Speaker 4: I sing, I'll be saying some yeah, GPT get that

468
00:22:56,160 --> 00:23:01,440
Speaker 4: stuff from me. I'll be saying some shit, and then

469
00:23:01,720 --> 00:23:03,359
Speaker 4: I'll be putting in stuff to let you know, like

470
00:23:03,400 --> 00:23:05,440
Speaker 4: I'm kind of hipping like I've kind of be knowing

471
00:23:05,520 --> 00:23:09,320
Speaker 4: like the fitness type like that I know what tries

472
00:23:09,359 --> 00:23:11,959
Speaker 4: and y. You know.

473
00:23:12,119 --> 00:23:14,640
Speaker 1: So that's a good part though, So like like explain

474
00:23:14,720 --> 00:23:17,080
Speaker 1: that I think you need your own internal team before

475
00:23:17,080 --> 00:23:18,439
Speaker 1: you plug up to the big machine.

476
00:23:18,440 --> 00:23:20,400
Speaker 2: That's basically what I'm saying. There's so many words.

477
00:23:20,560 --> 00:23:23,480
Speaker 4: I think you get a lot of the details and

478
00:23:23,520 --> 00:23:25,360
Speaker 4: the stuff that you love as an artist from your

479
00:23:25,400 --> 00:23:29,600
Speaker 4: internal team. The other, uh, the bigger label as we

480
00:23:29,640 --> 00:23:31,600
Speaker 4: all know, as people like to call the bank and

481
00:23:31,640 --> 00:23:37,480
Speaker 4: all that, they're there too. Obviously they hope you win,

482
00:23:37,960 --> 00:23:40,160
Speaker 4: but if you don't, they got something. They got more

483
00:23:40,160 --> 00:23:43,520
Speaker 4: things up the pipeline. So it's like, look at it

484
00:23:43,560 --> 00:23:48,160
Speaker 4: like this, right, look at it like this. A lawyer

485
00:23:48,520 --> 00:23:52,520
Speaker 4: they have one hundred cases. Then you get in trouble

486
00:23:54,119 --> 00:23:58,240
Speaker 4: and you're the one person. Then you think the lawyer're

487
00:23:58,280 --> 00:24:01,920
Speaker 4: only doing them for you. You know what I'm saying.

488
00:24:02,160 --> 00:24:04,120
Speaker 4: And so that's the same thing that somebody might think

489
00:24:04,160 --> 00:24:07,280
Speaker 4: the label only doing the label got So you have

490
00:24:07,359 --> 00:24:09,040
Speaker 4: to take in this. You got to call your you

491
00:24:09,040 --> 00:24:11,880
Speaker 4: got to get involved in your own You got to

492
00:24:11,880 --> 00:24:14,359
Speaker 4: get involved with your with the same thing with you.

493
00:24:14,600 --> 00:24:16,520
Speaker 4: Like they got all these artists going on let me

494
00:24:17,040 --> 00:24:19,399
Speaker 4: and so not to say that I'm calling the label,

495
00:24:19,400 --> 00:24:24,640
Speaker 4: but I got a team that I can funnel my frustration, discramntles,

496
00:24:24,840 --> 00:24:27,320
Speaker 4: happiness whatever too, and they can plug.

497
00:24:27,160 --> 00:24:28,000
Speaker 2: Up to the machine.

498
00:24:28,080 --> 00:24:30,480
Speaker 4: And then I think that's how everything just kind of

499
00:24:30,480 --> 00:24:31,520
Speaker 4: connects and run smooth.

500
00:24:31,640 --> 00:24:34,320
Speaker 1: Well, that's what I wanted to get at too, because

501
00:24:34,359 --> 00:24:35,200
Speaker 1: correct me if I'm wrong.

502
00:24:35,200 --> 00:24:36,000
Speaker 3: That's how I look at it.

503
00:24:36,040 --> 00:24:38,240
Speaker 1: As far as I think a lot of people make

504
00:24:38,280 --> 00:24:40,439
Speaker 1: the mistake of thinking that the label's going to do

505
00:24:40,480 --> 00:24:43,280
Speaker 1: everything for them. You still got to get yourself high.

506
00:24:43,320 --> 00:24:45,000
Speaker 1: You still got to do the street work then, and

507
00:24:45,040 --> 00:24:47,000
Speaker 1: even for us, like we'll do whatever we do with

508
00:24:47,040 --> 00:24:50,359
Speaker 1: different corporations, that just helps amplify it. But it's up

509
00:24:50,400 --> 00:24:53,080
Speaker 1: to us to make the Instagram polls, to run around

510
00:24:53,160 --> 00:24:55,119
Speaker 1: to make the relationships, Like if we just relying on

511
00:24:55,160 --> 00:24:57,119
Speaker 1: somebody else to do it for us, even though that

512
00:24:57,160 --> 00:25:01,560
Speaker 1: they have multi million billion dollar know arms at the disposal,

513
00:25:01,600 --> 00:25:03,680
Speaker 1: you can't just sit back and say, Okay, I'm signed

514
00:25:03,680 --> 00:25:04,640
Speaker 1: to a label now, Like.

515
00:25:05,040 --> 00:25:07,080
Speaker 4: But that's what a partnership is, right, That's what it

516
00:25:07,119 --> 00:25:09,280
Speaker 4: should be. Yeah, I think that's what it should be.

517
00:25:09,320 --> 00:25:12,400
Speaker 4: I think everybody should do their part and then everything works,

518
00:25:12,600 --> 00:25:14,040
Speaker 4: you know, like it should.

519
00:25:14,160 --> 00:25:15,520
Speaker 2: That's what a partnership should be.

520
00:25:15,720 --> 00:25:18,080
Speaker 5: I think we get confused because we grow up in

521
00:25:18,080 --> 00:25:20,959
Speaker 5: the era where like we hear somebody got signed and

522
00:25:21,000 --> 00:25:21,720
Speaker 5: that's the celebration.

523
00:25:21,920 --> 00:25:26,600
Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, yeah yeah, But it was because listen, it

524
00:25:26,680 --> 00:25:28,480
Speaker 4: was so hard to do that once upon a time.

525
00:25:28,520 --> 00:25:31,280
Speaker 2: Bro. It's not as hard now, but it was.

526
00:25:31,200 --> 00:25:33,439
Speaker 4: So hard to be First of all, it was so

527
00:25:33,480 --> 00:25:35,040
Speaker 4: hard to get signed then, it was so hard to

528
00:25:35,080 --> 00:25:38,320
Speaker 4: even know a person that knew a person that was signed.

529
00:25:38,400 --> 00:25:41,919
Speaker 4: It used to be a the degrees is closer now.

530
00:25:41,920 --> 00:25:44,760
Speaker 4: It used to be like like when I'm coming up,

531
00:25:45,560 --> 00:25:48,560
Speaker 4: when I'm coming up, I'm coming up in Atlanta, and

532
00:25:48,600 --> 00:25:52,840
Speaker 4: we got artists like at this time, like maybe Keylo

533
00:25:52,960 --> 00:25:58,600
Speaker 4: and Sammy Sam. I don't even know nobody that know

534
00:25:58,760 --> 00:26:01,120
Speaker 4: nobody that then that you know what I'm saying. It's

535
00:26:01,160 --> 00:26:03,960
Speaker 4: like that. And it's the same thing with like, especially

536
00:26:03,960 --> 00:26:06,679
Speaker 4: in the South, with my friend Dollar who was in

537
00:26:06,720 --> 00:26:09,000
Speaker 4: play a circle with. He put me on Wou Tang

538
00:26:09,880 --> 00:26:14,600
Speaker 4: and even Ja and he would be like, man, you

539
00:26:14,640 --> 00:26:15,160
Speaker 4: know what I'm saying.

540
00:26:15,240 --> 00:26:15,800
Speaker 2: But it's like.

541
00:26:17,800 --> 00:26:21,240
Speaker 4: When fans see see people like me now and I'd

542
00:26:21,240 --> 00:26:22,520
Speaker 4: be like, yo, it's just me.

543
00:26:22,600 --> 00:26:23,280
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.

544
00:26:23,840 --> 00:26:27,200
Speaker 4: I remember being a fan of people watching them on TV,

545
00:26:28,440 --> 00:26:30,720
Speaker 4: never seeing them in person until I became me, but

546
00:26:30,840 --> 00:26:33,600
Speaker 4: just watching them on TV wondering how this happened. You know,

547
00:26:33,640 --> 00:26:35,480
Speaker 4: you hear these Wu Tang stories now, but I don't

548
00:26:35,520 --> 00:26:37,679
Speaker 4: know that. I'm just looking at I'm just looking at

549
00:26:37,680 --> 00:26:41,040
Speaker 4: these I'm just looking at people. I don't you know

550
00:26:41,080 --> 00:26:43,240
Speaker 4: what it is as when you out here, you don't understand.

551
00:26:43,240 --> 00:26:43,920
Speaker 3: It's a budget.

552
00:26:44,000 --> 00:26:47,360
Speaker 4: You don't understand it's a stylist, it's a you know,

553
00:26:47,640 --> 00:26:51,600
Speaker 4: somebody had scouted for this location, this car is you know,

554
00:26:51,640 --> 00:26:54,680
Speaker 4: we just you know, we liked the lifestyle, you know

555
00:26:54,720 --> 00:26:58,600
Speaker 4: what I mean, And so early on when somebody got

556
00:26:58,600 --> 00:27:01,680
Speaker 4: a record deal, we automatically soon one that they were rich,

557
00:27:02,680 --> 00:27:06,840
Speaker 4: and two it was just like not the easiest thing

558
00:27:06,880 --> 00:27:09,120
Speaker 4: to get. And even when I got a record deal,

559
00:27:09,160 --> 00:27:10,520
Speaker 4: I don't know when it happens to you, I guess

560
00:27:10,520 --> 00:27:12,320
Speaker 4: it's different. I feel like I put the work in,

561
00:27:12,800 --> 00:27:14,640
Speaker 4: but now I feel like a lot of people get

562
00:27:15,040 --> 00:27:19,280
Speaker 4: record deal based off different things, not just music.

563
00:27:19,760 --> 00:27:22,040
Speaker 2: It was like it was like getting drafted. Get a

564
00:27:22,080 --> 00:27:23,840
Speaker 2: record okay, right, like right, okay?

565
00:27:23,880 --> 00:27:25,919
Speaker 4: The percentage probably like I ain't looking at it. I

566
00:27:25,920 --> 00:27:28,280
Speaker 4: ain't look at it like that. I ain't look at

567
00:27:28,280 --> 00:27:30,760
Speaker 4: it like that. I ain't look at it like that

568
00:27:31,840 --> 00:27:33,840
Speaker 4: because I just believed in myself. But I guess when

569
00:27:33,880 --> 00:27:36,040
Speaker 4: you look at it like that, like like that percentage

570
00:27:36,080 --> 00:27:38,920
Speaker 4: is so low out of you if you think about

571
00:27:38,960 --> 00:27:41,960
Speaker 4: like college, the people that are you think about people

572
00:27:41,960 --> 00:27:47,200
Speaker 4: that go to college, become a student athlete then get draft,

573
00:27:47,240 --> 00:27:49,680
Speaker 4: you know, and playful, it is very a very very

574
00:27:49,680 --> 00:27:50,439
Speaker 4: small number.

575
00:27:50,520 --> 00:27:52,399
Speaker 5: So if you even put it in that perspective, when

576
00:27:52,440 --> 00:27:55,040
Speaker 5: double XIL would have the draft class, you beat the

577
00:27:55,080 --> 00:27:56,560
Speaker 5: top you know what I'm saying, it be the top

578
00:27:56,600 --> 00:27:58,160
Speaker 5: ten or top twelve people.

579
00:27:58,480 --> 00:27:59,240
Speaker 3: Make it out of the class.

580
00:27:59,359 --> 00:28:00,960
Speaker 5: Then you go back and look at some of those classes,

581
00:28:01,119 --> 00:28:02,800
Speaker 5: like yo, damn, they were pretty spot on.

582
00:28:03,119 --> 00:28:06,119
Speaker 3: Yeah, people that wasn't on it.

583
00:28:06,359 --> 00:28:09,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, okay, if you look at it, Blake sal that's them,

584
00:28:09,320 --> 00:28:12,720
Speaker 4: like the McDonald's All America exactly, because that's like a

585
00:28:12,960 --> 00:28:14,960
Speaker 4: I think they say to McDonald's All American. I think

586
00:28:15,080 --> 00:28:17,760
Speaker 4: eighty percent of those kids go to the league.

587
00:28:17,840 --> 00:28:18,520
Speaker 3: Yeah that's the best.

588
00:28:18,560 --> 00:28:20,360
Speaker 4: You almost like when you right there on that court,

589
00:28:20,359 --> 00:28:21,840
Speaker 4: you're almost knowing like I'm gonna be there in a

590
00:28:21,840 --> 00:28:22,440
Speaker 4: couple of years.

591
00:28:22,440 --> 00:28:24,560
Speaker 3: So they're actually making a documentary about it for real.

592
00:28:24,680 --> 00:28:24,880
Speaker 2: Yeah.

593
00:28:25,080 --> 00:28:28,239
Speaker 5: McDonald's all American and it's following the history of it

594
00:28:28,320 --> 00:28:31,280
Speaker 5: and how it evolved just being the number one place

595
00:28:31,320 --> 00:28:34,359
Speaker 5: to find the next NBA talent. Yeah, you brought up

596
00:28:34,359 --> 00:28:35,879
Speaker 5: team because I think that's important.

597
00:28:35,880 --> 00:28:38,200
Speaker 3: You got your team here with you today, Vams here

598
00:28:38,240 --> 00:28:39,720
Speaker 3: with you, and then you brought up Jay.

599
00:28:40,640 --> 00:28:42,360
Speaker 5: There's a couple of things here that that are important

600
00:28:42,400 --> 00:28:45,440
Speaker 5: because it's the story here that you talk about having

601
00:28:45,440 --> 00:28:49,200
Speaker 5: an opportunity to potentially sign with Jane, but realizing that

602
00:28:49,240 --> 00:28:51,360
Speaker 5: you might have to leave some of the team behind

603
00:28:51,360 --> 00:28:53,320
Speaker 5: you to do it, and choosing not to do it.

604
00:28:53,360 --> 00:28:57,000
Speaker 5: So it talks about integrity, It talks about loyalty. Was

605
00:28:57,040 --> 00:28:58,600
Speaker 5: this the voice in the head that spoke to you

606
00:28:58,920 --> 00:28:59,640
Speaker 5: at this moment?

607
00:28:59,720 --> 00:29:01,080
Speaker 2: People but ask me that at all the time. That's

608
00:29:01,080 --> 00:29:01,680
Speaker 2: a good question.

609
00:29:03,880 --> 00:29:07,560
Speaker 4: Uh, this was before I got my record deal, which

610
00:29:07,600 --> 00:29:08,520
Speaker 4: is before tweeny twelve.

611
00:29:08,520 --> 00:29:13,200
Speaker 2: I don't think I was that tapped in back then.

612
00:29:13,400 --> 00:29:21,080
Speaker 4: I think this is something that I probably acquired twenty sixteen,

613
00:29:21,160 --> 00:29:24,560
Speaker 4: twenty seventeen and beyond. I think I probably had a voice.

614
00:29:24,760 --> 00:29:27,240
Speaker 4: I just don't think I maybe listened to it as

615
00:29:27,320 --> 00:29:29,680
Speaker 4: much as I listened to it now mm hm. That

616
00:29:29,720 --> 00:29:35,840
Speaker 4: situation along with a alone with just growing up. I

617
00:29:35,840 --> 00:29:39,840
Speaker 4: think a lot of situations sometimes I wonder what would

618
00:29:39,880 --> 00:29:42,920
Speaker 4: have you know, I had situations like that. I think

619
00:29:42,960 --> 00:29:45,200
Speaker 4: about go back to six or seventh grade. I wondered

620
00:29:45,200 --> 00:29:47,880
Speaker 4: about it, did this? I wanted did that? But that

621
00:29:47,960 --> 00:29:50,000
Speaker 4: was one of those situations. But at the same time,

622
00:29:50,920 --> 00:29:56,840
Speaker 4: I think my moral compass is is in a position

623
00:29:56,880 --> 00:30:00,640
Speaker 4: to where I wouldn't leave nobody behind that I'm really

624
00:30:00,720 --> 00:30:03,640
Speaker 4: rocking with, you know what I'm saying in any situation.

625
00:30:04,200 --> 00:30:07,120
Speaker 4: So this was a situation where I'm I'm rocking with

626
00:30:07,160 --> 00:30:11,479
Speaker 4: someone who's fully supported me, believing in me, and I

627
00:30:11,480 --> 00:30:16,080
Speaker 4: feel like this person put me where I could be recognized.

628
00:30:15,400 --> 00:30:16,960
Speaker 2: By some of the hierarchs.

629
00:30:17,400 --> 00:30:19,840
Speaker 4: So I just wanted him to wanted my guy to

630
00:30:19,840 --> 00:30:21,960
Speaker 4: be a part of whatever it was about to go

631
00:30:22,080 --> 00:30:24,800
Speaker 4: to what I thought was about to happen, and at

632
00:30:24,800 --> 00:30:27,680
Speaker 4: then and everything still worked out. We still everybody still amical.

633
00:30:27,720 --> 00:30:28,520
Speaker 4: Boy is still cool.

634
00:30:28,760 --> 00:30:31,800
Speaker 2: So that that was Rockefeller. It wasn't Rockefeller.

635
00:30:31,880 --> 00:30:34,920
Speaker 4: It was a situation where when I got a call

636
00:30:34,960 --> 00:30:38,720
Speaker 4: from JD one day, man, forgive me, y'all, I know

637
00:30:38,800 --> 00:30:42,200
Speaker 4: y'all tied it. I don't even want to keep going

638
00:30:42,240 --> 00:30:44,000
Speaker 4: into this. But I had got a call one day

639
00:30:44,040 --> 00:30:46,239
Speaker 4: from JD JD saying hold on.

640
00:30:46,320 --> 00:30:51,360
Speaker 2: He put me on the phone with Jay and it

641
00:30:51,480 --> 00:30:51,960
Speaker 2: was all of.

642
00:30:51,880 --> 00:30:54,280
Speaker 4: Them, and they was just saying like, but at this

643
00:30:54,280 --> 00:30:56,560
Speaker 4: particular time, it was when I was telling you about

644
00:30:56,680 --> 00:31:00,360
Speaker 4: having leverage, I was still independent, I'm doing these I'm

645
00:31:00,400 --> 00:31:05,719
Speaker 4: moving around and they just simply invited me to a

646
00:31:05,760 --> 00:31:08,520
Speaker 4: meeting and I wanted to bring someone with me, and

647
00:31:08,560 --> 00:31:10,200
Speaker 4: they were saying, you don't have to bring this person.

648
00:31:10,640 --> 00:31:10,800
Speaker 2: Now.

649
00:31:10,800 --> 00:31:15,360
Speaker 4: This person it's Tech. But Tech was a DJ. His

650
00:31:15,480 --> 00:31:19,640
Speaker 4: name was DJ Techniques. And I tell the story a

651
00:31:19,680 --> 00:31:25,520
Speaker 4: lot too. I think a lot of DJs are bigger

652
00:31:25,560 --> 00:31:26,520
Speaker 4: than just being a DJ.

653
00:31:26,560 --> 00:31:29,760
Speaker 2: They do more than just DJ right.

654
00:31:29,760 --> 00:31:33,680
Speaker 4: They have a mindset, they have a person out, they create,

655
00:31:33,760 --> 00:31:36,719
Speaker 4: they do different things. So if you think about DJ Drummer,

656
00:31:36,760 --> 00:31:39,680
Speaker 4: we know I mean this guy signed ooh. If you

657
00:31:39,680 --> 00:31:42,520
Speaker 4: think about cal It, you know what I'm saying. And

658
00:31:42,560 --> 00:31:46,440
Speaker 4: so when I at this particular time, I didn't realize

659
00:31:46,520 --> 00:31:50,680
Speaker 4: how much the word DJ maybe pigeonhole or hold you back.

660
00:31:50,720 --> 00:31:54,480
Speaker 4: So I'm just saying, man, man, my dog, DJ Technique.

661
00:31:54,480 --> 00:31:57,560
Speaker 4: They like I think JD like, Bro, you don't need

662
00:31:57,640 --> 00:31:59,520
Speaker 4: your DJ, you know what I'm saying, Like I get

663
00:32:00,040 --> 00:32:02,560
Speaker 4: and when I look in retrospect, I look at me like, man,

664
00:32:02,560 --> 00:32:05,000
Speaker 4: I'm probably sounding crazy because I'm like, man, I got

665
00:32:05,120 --> 00:32:06,840
Speaker 4: to brain. DJ says, They're like, man, what the hell

666
00:32:06,920 --> 00:32:08,880
Speaker 4: you talking about? You're not about to do no show,

667
00:32:09,360 --> 00:32:11,200
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying. So we probably was just

668
00:32:12,000 --> 00:32:15,120
Speaker 4: it's probably just man cross and the communication just was off.

669
00:32:15,120 --> 00:32:15,680
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.

670
00:32:15,720 --> 00:32:18,560
Speaker 4: I'm partially excited because I'm getting these kind of calls

671
00:32:18,600 --> 00:32:21,840
Speaker 4: every day. They excited to work with me, and here

672
00:32:21,880 --> 00:32:23,800
Speaker 4: I am talking about somebody that believed in me. But

673
00:32:23,880 --> 00:32:26,560
Speaker 4: he you know, he got this name. So I remember

674
00:32:26,600 --> 00:32:28,400
Speaker 4: after that conversation, I telling me you got to lose

675
00:32:28,440 --> 00:32:28,800
Speaker 4: that DJ.

676
00:32:29,000 --> 00:32:33,160
Speaker 2: Man, you got to get that out of there.

677
00:32:33,240 --> 00:32:37,880
Speaker 1: So at what point, because you got a lot of businesses,

678
00:32:38,240 --> 00:32:41,280
Speaker 1: the rest of our Escobar lounge, you do real estate,

679
00:32:41,400 --> 00:32:45,880
Speaker 1: you know, at what point did you say I gotta diversify.

680
00:32:46,240 --> 00:32:49,000
Speaker 1: I can't just be an artist or was that always

681
00:32:49,560 --> 00:32:51,560
Speaker 1: part of the game plan from day one was to

682
00:32:51,640 --> 00:32:53,800
Speaker 1: just use rap as a way to get your foot

683
00:32:53,840 --> 00:32:56,400
Speaker 1: in the door, but not to just only focus on music.

684
00:32:57,320 --> 00:33:00,440
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think the mentality for me was always to

685
00:33:00,480 --> 00:33:04,040
Speaker 4: have multiple strings of income. Off the off, the rip, off,

686
00:33:04,080 --> 00:33:08,840
Speaker 4: the rip, you know, anything can happen. And then with

687
00:33:08,920 --> 00:33:19,680
Speaker 4: the restaurant space. Once I understood what consistent passive income

688
00:33:20,600 --> 00:33:23,320
Speaker 4: could be, then it just changed my life on how

689
00:33:23,360 --> 00:33:25,680
Speaker 4: I kind of started putting pieces on the board because

690
00:33:25,680 --> 00:33:27,240
Speaker 4: you had a line of I forget the line, but

691
00:33:27,280 --> 00:33:28,920
Speaker 4: it was on the Large Junior album. You in Large

692
00:33:28,960 --> 00:33:32,160
Speaker 4: Junior was like the business something like along the lines

693
00:33:32,160 --> 00:33:34,440
Speaker 4: of like having businesses save me, like you know what

694
00:33:34,440 --> 00:33:36,080
Speaker 4: I mean, Like if I ain't have my businesses like

695
00:33:36,160 --> 00:33:38,560
Speaker 4: so like that's important because a lot of times when

696
00:33:38,600 --> 00:33:40,960
Speaker 4: you fly high, you only focus on one thing. You

697
00:33:41,000 --> 00:33:44,000
Speaker 4: don't think it's never gonna slow down, nothing's never gonna

698
00:33:44,080 --> 00:33:46,560
Speaker 4: change it in there. Yep, I've had I've had that

699
00:33:46,880 --> 00:33:52,000
Speaker 4: thinking I'm saying out with bankers and been man, look man,

700
00:33:52,040 --> 00:33:53,760
Speaker 4: I don't yeah, I ain't about to be doing this.

701
00:33:53,800 --> 00:33:55,160
Speaker 4: I ain't gonna have to do this, you know what

702
00:33:55,160 --> 00:33:59,640
Speaker 4: I'm saying. But you know, and then it's the same thing. Man, businesses,

703
00:33:59,720 --> 00:34:02,440
Speaker 4: they they go through a roller coaster tooths ups and downs. Man,

704
00:34:02,680 --> 00:34:04,520
Speaker 4: being an entrepreneur is not the easiest thing in the

705
00:34:04,560 --> 00:34:05,040
Speaker 4: world too.

706
00:34:05,160 --> 00:34:06,560
Speaker 2: That's a fact. You have to man you.

707
00:34:06,480 --> 00:34:08,960
Speaker 4: Cy, you know, sometimes you get paid lass if at all,

708
00:34:09,200 --> 00:34:11,480
Speaker 4: that's a fat you know. And so I have businesses

709
00:34:11,520 --> 00:34:17,240
Speaker 4: that that struggle. But I'm just a firm believer about

710
00:34:17,680 --> 00:34:21,400
Speaker 4: just things that I that I'm involved in, it, passionate about,

711
00:34:22,200 --> 00:34:25,759
Speaker 4: and I believe in a cycle of it just a

712
00:34:26,040 --> 00:34:29,080
Speaker 4: an nothing, just being great all the damn time. Once

713
00:34:29,120 --> 00:34:31,800
Speaker 4: you get that out of your head, mm, you can

714
00:34:32,080 --> 00:34:34,919
Speaker 4: you can navigate life differently, uh, in a better way

715
00:34:34,960 --> 00:34:38,960
Speaker 4: for me. So I understand, Like I look around the club,

716
00:34:39,000 --> 00:34:41,759
Speaker 4: be be cracking every like. Yeah, it ain't gonna be

717
00:34:41,880 --> 00:34:43,759
Speaker 4: like this forever. You know what I'm saying. I get it.

718
00:34:43,800 --> 00:34:45,840
Speaker 2: You gotta be slightly paranoid at all times.

719
00:34:46,160 --> 00:34:53,120
Speaker 4: Every y you say slightly, man, you crazy, you better

720
00:34:53,160 --> 00:34:53,880
Speaker 4: be paranoid.

721
00:34:53,880 --> 00:34:55,399
Speaker 2: You have to be paranoid. That's a fact.

722
00:34:55,600 --> 00:34:56,719
Speaker 3: You gotta be paranoid.

723
00:34:56,800 --> 00:34:57,360
Speaker 2: I I gotta.

724
00:34:57,400 --> 00:34:59,040
Speaker 3: I wanna apologize in advance.

725
00:34:59,520 --> 00:35:02,360
Speaker 5: I don't know how we went this far without giving

726
00:35:02,360 --> 00:35:03,920
Speaker 5: you a huge thank you for shouting us out in

727
00:35:03,960 --> 00:35:04,400
Speaker 5: the record.

728
00:35:04,640 --> 00:35:07,960
Speaker 2: I did. And yeah, I heard Shot and Troy talking

729
00:35:07,960 --> 00:35:08,759
Speaker 2: about the tax left.

730
00:35:08,800 --> 00:35:09,359
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying.

731
00:35:09,800 --> 00:35:13,080
Speaker 5: So I mean, it talks about being in the know,

732
00:35:13,520 --> 00:35:15,840
Speaker 5: It talks about their points of financial education in the

733
00:35:15,840 --> 00:35:18,320
Speaker 5: moment that were in. Talk about how your viewing it

734
00:35:18,360 --> 00:35:21,040
Speaker 5: from your landscape. Obviously we've seen we've been to the restaurants,

735
00:35:21,200 --> 00:35:23,279
Speaker 5: but you're seeing a lot of your counterparts.

736
00:35:22,719 --> 00:35:25,160
Speaker 3: Now getting into the space. That's right, and you've been here,

737
00:35:25,200 --> 00:35:26,200
Speaker 3: So what is that like for you?

738
00:35:27,000 --> 00:35:31,160
Speaker 4: Yeah, I already knew this. I already knew I'm not lame,

739
00:35:31,680 --> 00:35:34,160
Speaker 4: so I don't do lame stuff. So I already know

740
00:35:34,239 --> 00:35:37,719
Speaker 4: that somebody can really look at what I'm doing and

741
00:35:37,760 --> 00:35:39,799
Speaker 4: get some game from me and get something from me.

742
00:35:40,600 --> 00:35:43,080
Speaker 4: And I also know that I ain't know somebody be like,

743
00:35:43,080 --> 00:35:45,239
Speaker 4: oh man, the only reason they did that cause me,

744
00:35:45,560 --> 00:35:48,200
Speaker 4: or the reason they got that because they just this

745
00:35:48,320 --> 00:35:50,760
Speaker 4: is my personality, not like that. But as I look around,

746
00:35:51,040 --> 00:35:54,200
Speaker 4: it's starting in my city alone, and how I mean,

747
00:35:54,239 --> 00:35:56,520
Speaker 4: it was already a black city, but man, so many

748
00:35:57,120 --> 00:36:00,560
Speaker 4: people that do what I do own so many great things.

749
00:36:00,360 --> 00:36:01,240
Speaker 2: And peace of property.

750
00:36:01,280 --> 00:36:04,040
Speaker 4: And as we all know and and heard a thousand times,

751
00:36:04,120 --> 00:36:05,480
Speaker 4: you can't buy no more land.

752
00:36:05,800 --> 00:36:07,960
Speaker 2: I mean we're not. You can buy more but they're

753
00:36:07,960 --> 00:36:09,839
Speaker 2: not gonna make any more land. And so.

754
00:36:12,080 --> 00:36:14,480
Speaker 4: You know, I ain't lame, ain't done no lame stuff.

755
00:36:14,480 --> 00:36:16,480
Speaker 4: Like I make invest and look cool. I make I

756
00:36:16,560 --> 00:36:22,160
Speaker 4: make a lot of stuff that people might not be

757
00:36:22,320 --> 00:36:25,239
Speaker 4: comfortable with. I make it look just. I make it

758
00:36:25,280 --> 00:36:28,520
Speaker 4: look cool cause it's just it's just it's just really me,

759
00:36:28,719 --> 00:36:30,240
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying. It's just I'm so comfort

760
00:36:30,280 --> 00:36:34,200
Speaker 4: in my hand. I know, like I know, like I

761
00:36:34,239 --> 00:36:38,320
Speaker 4: don't know, man, I just know, like, well, I listened

762
00:36:38,360 --> 00:36:41,040
Speaker 4: a lot. I listen more than I talk over the years,

763
00:36:41,040 --> 00:36:44,040
Speaker 4: and I've been in the rooms and so I've seen

764
00:36:44,080 --> 00:36:46,479
Speaker 4: the ones that do a lot of talking. I see

765
00:36:46,480 --> 00:36:49,400
Speaker 4: them too. They come across my timeline. But I know

766
00:36:49,480 --> 00:36:51,920
Speaker 4: that somebody can really get some games just from watching me,

767
00:36:52,680 --> 00:36:55,040
Speaker 4: just from really like a day in like a twenty

768
00:36:55,080 --> 00:36:57,480
Speaker 4: four hours of me, I know somebody can learn something.

769
00:36:58,400 --> 00:37:01,200
Speaker 1: How how big is Atlanta in your development? Because it's

770
00:37:01,280 --> 00:37:04,040
Speaker 1: like for us coming to Atlanta and it is the

771
00:37:04,080 --> 00:37:08,359
Speaker 1: mecca of black business, black entrepreneurship. And I think that

772
00:37:08,360 --> 00:37:11,480
Speaker 1: that even plays a part as far as like the musicians,

773
00:37:11,680 --> 00:37:14,480
Speaker 1: I think it's more of an entrepreneurial spirit from the

774
00:37:14,480 --> 00:37:17,919
Speaker 1: beginning because of the city of Atlanta kind of cultivates

775
00:37:18,040 --> 00:37:19,879
Speaker 1: and supports black entrepreneurship.

776
00:37:19,920 --> 00:37:21,920
Speaker 2: That's my opinion. Which what's your thoughts on.

777
00:37:21,880 --> 00:37:28,640
Speaker 4: That we we piggyback off each other. I think it's

778
00:37:28,440 --> 00:37:31,800
Speaker 4: a it's a it's a great city net to network.

779
00:37:33,040 --> 00:37:40,520
Speaker 4: Everybody's one phone call away, one DM away. You can

780
00:37:40,760 --> 00:37:43,759
Speaker 4: you can. You can cut the ribbon on a business

781
00:37:44,440 --> 00:37:47,400
Speaker 4: at six o'clock, man, and we can send out a

782
00:37:47,400 --> 00:37:48,120
Speaker 4: few cars and.

783
00:37:49,280 --> 00:37:52,000
Speaker 3: The mayor would be there, like the mayor pull up.

784
00:37:53,520 --> 00:37:54,120
Speaker 2: His crew.

785
00:37:55,400 --> 00:37:58,319
Speaker 4: We can call him. We can call our mayor right,

786
00:37:58,719 --> 00:38:00,560
Speaker 4: you know, like my mayor. My mayor listened to the

787
00:38:00,560 --> 00:38:02,520
Speaker 4: same album. He heard you, he heard me, give you all.

788
00:38:04,040 --> 00:38:06,000
Speaker 4: You see what I'm saying, So our see that is

789
00:38:06,040 --> 00:38:11,040
Speaker 4: different in the fact that, Man, it's so many contributing

790
00:38:11,120 --> 00:38:13,839
Speaker 4: factors to the success in Atlanta, man, and a lot

791
00:38:13,880 --> 00:38:14,640
Speaker 4: of it being.

792
00:38:17,040 --> 00:38:18,600
Speaker 2: Black people in high places.

793
00:38:19,160 --> 00:38:21,879
Speaker 1: And the follow up on that, Atlanta, you were kind

794
00:38:21,920 --> 00:38:25,080
Speaker 1: of at the forefront of the music changing. You saw

795
00:38:25,120 --> 00:38:28,520
Speaker 1: the music change New York had it, and then you

796
00:38:28,560 --> 00:38:31,760
Speaker 1: saw around your time, your era, that's when it changed

797
00:38:31,760 --> 00:38:34,920
Speaker 1: in Atlanta took the torch. You saw that coming, or

798
00:38:34,960 --> 00:38:37,000
Speaker 1: you just kind of like was just in it and

799
00:38:37,040 --> 00:38:39,160
Speaker 1: it just happened like organically.

800
00:38:39,600 --> 00:38:47,040
Speaker 4: I saw it coming because it was becoming more and

801
00:38:47,040 --> 00:38:51,120
Speaker 4: more consistent with Atlanta, having records that got out of

802
00:38:51,160 --> 00:38:54,040
Speaker 4: Atlanta that iact, that got out of magicity.

803
00:38:54,160 --> 00:38:54,400
Speaker 2: You know.

804
00:38:54,480 --> 00:38:59,319
Speaker 4: Sometimes we had records that just stayed locally. But it

805
00:38:59,360 --> 00:39:03,239
Speaker 4: became a time that anything we did, people were gravitated

806
00:39:03,280 --> 00:39:06,000
Speaker 4: to it. And I come to New York and I

807
00:39:06,000 --> 00:39:07,400
Speaker 4: hear it like that. I can't believe they planning it,

808
00:39:07,400 --> 00:39:10,200
Speaker 4: because it was a time where music was very regional.

809
00:39:10,800 --> 00:39:14,520
Speaker 4: But then I remember, you know, coming to New York

810
00:39:14,600 --> 00:39:17,439
Speaker 4: and hearing Atlanta music. I remember hearing it a lot

811
00:39:17,560 --> 00:39:20,279
Speaker 4: when it first, you know, started happening a lot, and

812
00:39:20,840 --> 00:39:23,680
Speaker 4: that's when you know it's like your time, because everybody's

813
00:39:23,760 --> 00:39:25,319
Speaker 4: kind of receptive to what you're doing.

814
00:39:25,800 --> 00:39:28,640
Speaker 5: Yeah, I think it was, yes, Atlanta, but at that

815
00:39:28,880 --> 00:39:33,240
Speaker 5: early two thousands, it's a Southern movement, is Wayne.

816
00:39:33,360 --> 00:39:38,120
Speaker 3: Obviously, it's us Tip, it's g Z who she it

817
00:39:38,239 --> 00:39:42,000
Speaker 3: was just a whole thing, right. But the Wayne thing

818
00:39:42,080 --> 00:39:42,719
Speaker 3: is interesting to me.

819
00:39:42,800 --> 00:39:45,120
Speaker 5: Obviously, this is this is a good thing of your

820
00:39:45,160 --> 00:39:47,239
Speaker 5: This has been in a lot of Wayne talk over

821
00:39:47,239 --> 00:39:49,880
Speaker 5: the past couple of weeks. He's on record That's one

822
00:39:49,920 --> 00:39:53,480
Speaker 5: of my favorite mcs of all time. I probably probably

823
00:39:53,560 --> 00:39:55,319
Speaker 5: probably got in my top five. We used to argue

824
00:39:55,320 --> 00:39:59,200
Speaker 5: about Wayne's tip all the time. Being around him taught

825
00:39:59,239 --> 00:40:01,760
Speaker 5: you a lot, right y y you s you speak

826
00:40:01,760 --> 00:40:03,480
Speaker 5: about learning what work.

827
00:40:03,320 --> 00:40:06,279
Speaker 3: Ethic is, talk about how that shaped your career from

828
00:40:06,280 --> 00:40:08,080
Speaker 3: that point on and to where you at now.

829
00:40:08,800 --> 00:40:11,200
Speaker 4: I'm someone that learns in any room that I'm in.

830
00:40:11,440 --> 00:40:15,480
Speaker 4: I was on tour with with Bruh and just really

831
00:40:15,560 --> 00:40:19,719
Speaker 4: kind of watch how he moved and how convenience was

832
00:40:19,760 --> 00:40:23,600
Speaker 4: at that kind of at the forefront of the success,

833
00:40:23,680 --> 00:40:27,000
Speaker 4: the convenience of I just told, y'all, man, the bus

834
00:40:27,040 --> 00:40:29,080
Speaker 4: everything I just described, y'all, a bus with the studio

835
00:40:29,120 --> 00:40:31,120
Speaker 4: of the ship. I got all that for him. Everything

836
00:40:31,120 --> 00:40:33,279
Speaker 4: that I just describe, y'all just got it from watching him.

837
00:40:33,320 --> 00:40:37,600
Speaker 4: To drop everything that I just got it from watching him.

838
00:40:37,760 --> 00:40:40,839
Speaker 4: I just I just did, like this, this is what

839
00:40:40,920 --> 00:40:43,279
Speaker 4: you do. I I guess you know, and I I

840
00:40:43,360 --> 00:40:47,399
Speaker 4: did it. It was like, somebody's not hiding, you know,

841
00:40:47,880 --> 00:40:51,160
Speaker 4: the secrets to success. He's not someone that's that's hiding

842
00:40:51,200 --> 00:40:52,799
Speaker 4: if you pick up on it good. I mean, he's

843
00:40:52,840 --> 00:40:55,480
Speaker 4: not like take you to the water and make you

844
00:40:55,560 --> 00:40:58,120
Speaker 4: drink it either. But if you are smart enough to

845
00:40:59,320 --> 00:41:02,480
Speaker 4: be around one of the goats in real time.

846
00:41:02,640 --> 00:41:04,640
Speaker 2: Bro, you can't take nothing from that.

847
00:41:04,800 --> 00:41:04,920
Speaker 3: Bro.

848
00:41:05,239 --> 00:41:07,319
Speaker 5: I feel like there's not many people that he has

849
00:41:07,760 --> 00:41:10,560
Speaker 5: the best music relationship with. I feel like you have

850
00:41:10,600 --> 00:41:12,840
Speaker 5: a music relationship with him and a friendship with them

851
00:41:12,880 --> 00:41:16,200
Speaker 5: that's very unique and it's been cultivated. Obviously y'all put

852
00:41:16,239 --> 00:41:21,200
Speaker 5: out the joint album. How are you taking all the

853
00:41:21,520 --> 00:41:23,040
Speaker 5: talk around him these days?

854
00:41:23,239 --> 00:41:24,040
Speaker 2: I love him? Man.

855
00:41:24,520 --> 00:41:28,279
Speaker 4: Can't nobody say nothing do anything to change how I

856
00:41:28,320 --> 00:41:31,440
Speaker 4: feel about him. I love him deep down the side

857
00:41:31,560 --> 00:41:35,879
Speaker 4: like I love him, man, Dwayne Carter, that's my guy.

858
00:41:36,560 --> 00:41:42,879
Speaker 1: How family, that's something that you know you obviously got

859
00:41:42,880 --> 00:41:44,080
Speaker 1: the podcast with your son.

860
00:41:44,440 --> 00:41:49,879
Speaker 2: Yeah, you brought your kids here today? Your wife? How

861
00:41:49,920 --> 00:41:52,280
Speaker 2: has that played a part in your success?

862
00:41:52,320 --> 00:41:54,520
Speaker 1: Because I just saw something with Ammon Shumker saying, like

863
00:41:54,560 --> 00:41:56,399
Speaker 1: a lot of the NBA players go broke because they

864
00:41:56,400 --> 00:41:59,000
Speaker 1: start having kids, multiple baby moms. That's like a thing.

865
00:41:59,080 --> 00:42:02,520
Speaker 1: It's broken families. That's a dynamic that has taken down

866
00:42:02,560 --> 00:42:07,160
Speaker 1: a lot of men. We see it now even all

867
00:42:07,200 --> 00:42:11,480
Speaker 1: over How how has your family played a part in

868
00:42:11,520 --> 00:42:12,680
Speaker 1: your success?

869
00:42:14,080 --> 00:42:16,280
Speaker 2: Played a big part of my success? Man? You gotta

870
00:42:18,600 --> 00:42:18,960
Speaker 2: mm hm.

871
00:42:20,560 --> 00:42:26,239
Speaker 4: My co stars, she plays a great leading role in

872
00:42:26,280 --> 00:42:35,120
Speaker 4: the household. My kids beautiful and smart, and I'm someone

873
00:42:35,200 --> 00:42:37,839
Speaker 4: that's very involved and want to be That's the main thing.

874
00:42:38,040 --> 00:42:43,440
Speaker 4: I want to be at the recital or at the game,

875
00:42:43,760 --> 00:42:48,920
Speaker 4: or at whatever. I'll be wanting to be there. Like

876
00:42:49,000 --> 00:42:53,239
Speaker 4: it's interesting seeing something that has your DNA grow up.

877
00:42:55,000 --> 00:42:59,920
Speaker 4: And I've been able to watch it up close, and

878
00:43:00,160 --> 00:43:03,279
Speaker 4: I'm sure watching it from afar, it's pretty amazing too.

879
00:43:03,280 --> 00:43:04,920
Speaker 4: I'm sure if you don't see your kids for a

880
00:43:04,960 --> 00:43:07,480
Speaker 4: couple of months and you see them, I'm sure that's

881
00:43:07,520 --> 00:43:09,640
Speaker 4: I'm sure that could be pretty amazing too. I'm not

882
00:43:09,640 --> 00:43:12,879
Speaker 4: gonna knock that, but like when I don't see mine

883
00:43:12,920 --> 00:43:15,920
Speaker 4: for a couple of weeks and come back and just like, okay,

884
00:43:16,000 --> 00:43:17,839
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying, like it whatever it is, Oh,

885
00:43:17,880 --> 00:43:19,080
Speaker 4: it just gives me a great feeling.

886
00:43:19,160 --> 00:43:19,319
Speaker 2: Man.

887
00:43:19,400 --> 00:43:21,920
Speaker 4: I don't know, I just feel like that that was

888
00:43:22,800 --> 00:43:24,759
Speaker 4: my way. I think that was in my cars to

889
00:43:24,840 --> 00:43:30,400
Speaker 4: have a family stay grounded. You know, I think I'm

890
00:43:30,440 --> 00:43:32,440
Speaker 4: I'm not thinking I'm matured.

891
00:43:33,840 --> 00:43:34,640
Speaker 2: Very early. Man.

892
00:43:34,680 --> 00:43:37,640
Speaker 4: I was outside very early. I was I had sex

893
00:43:37,719 --> 00:43:41,720
Speaker 4: very early, I saw drugs very early. I stole cars

894
00:43:41,840 --> 00:43:44,720
Speaker 4: very I just did a lot of things very early.

895
00:43:44,840 --> 00:43:49,920
Speaker 4: So By the time I got to an age where

896
00:43:49,960 --> 00:43:53,200
Speaker 4: people started doing some of those things, I was already

897
00:43:53,280 --> 00:43:54,960
Speaker 4: maturing as an adult.

898
00:43:55,600 --> 00:43:57,799
Speaker 1: And we're getting to see artists mature too, because it's

899
00:43:57,800 --> 00:44:00,360
Speaker 1: like we see you and your family, we see Ti

900
00:44:00,520 --> 00:44:03,640
Speaker 1: his family, we see Jay. Like when we first started

901
00:44:03,640 --> 00:44:05,640
Speaker 1: to listen to music, it wasn't too much of that.

902
00:44:05,719 --> 00:44:08,080
Speaker 2: It was everybody was young. Everybody was just doing whatever

903
00:44:08,120 --> 00:44:08,600
Speaker 2: they was doing.

904
00:44:08,680 --> 00:44:14,360
Speaker 1: So now it is changing because it's like the music

905
00:44:15,239 --> 00:44:17,280
Speaker 1: is maturing because your artists are mature.

906
00:44:17,400 --> 00:44:19,520
Speaker 4: Yeah, the music, man, I can't wait to put out

907
00:44:19,560 --> 00:44:24,760
Speaker 4: my next project. Man, some fly shit man. This project.

908
00:44:24,760 --> 00:44:28,120
Speaker 4: My next project is with Static Selector, but it's it's

909
00:44:28,160 --> 00:44:29,960
Speaker 4: produced by Status select I've been talking about it, but

910
00:44:30,080 --> 00:44:33,600
Speaker 4: I got fifteen hundred and rants doing production on top

911
00:44:33,640 --> 00:44:36,359
Speaker 4: of his and I just revamped the whole project. It's

912
00:44:36,360 --> 00:44:40,840
Speaker 4: called Players Only Live Once, But it's it's my best

913
00:44:40,840 --> 00:44:48,960
Speaker 4: way I describe it is white suit red wine.

914
00:44:47,800 --> 00:44:48,719
Speaker 2: No stain.

915
00:44:50,120 --> 00:44:53,239
Speaker 3: Living on the head. Is that it is? That? Is

916
00:44:53,280 --> 00:44:53,840
Speaker 3: that crazy?

917
00:44:54,600 --> 00:45:01,120
Speaker 4: I'm talking about no marche white everywhere, only serving read.

918
00:45:03,280 --> 00:45:04,880
Speaker 4: I'm just trying to put you down. That's what this,

919
00:45:05,040 --> 00:45:06,920
Speaker 4: That's what my music, That's what this feels like. That

920
00:45:06,960 --> 00:45:10,080
Speaker 4: I'm putting out, so I'm excited about it. But I'm

921
00:45:10,200 --> 00:45:12,600
Speaker 4: right now I'm doing a book tour and this is

922
00:45:12,640 --> 00:45:15,440
Speaker 4: my first book and it's my first time being an author.

923
00:45:16,280 --> 00:45:19,360
Speaker 4: It won't be my last. But it was a lengthy process.

924
00:45:20,000 --> 00:45:25,840
Speaker 4: I learned a lot about the book space and I

925
00:45:25,920 --> 00:45:30,680
Speaker 4: learned a lot about myself while creating it. But my, my, my,

926
00:45:30,960 --> 00:45:34,279
Speaker 4: this music that I have put together and it's ready,

927
00:45:34,280 --> 00:45:38,799
Speaker 4: it's getting mixed. I'm done with it. It's like it's

928
00:45:38,800 --> 00:45:42,759
Speaker 4: some player stuff, but it's like it acts. It acts

929
00:45:42,800 --> 00:45:44,560
Speaker 4: as age, is what I'm trying to tell you. That's

930
00:45:44,600 --> 00:45:46,400
Speaker 4: what I'm going back to, that excess age.

931
00:45:46,440 --> 00:45:46,640
Speaker 2: You know.

932
00:45:47,719 --> 00:45:51,239
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying. It's it's pinky and let

933
00:45:51,280 --> 00:45:55,319
Speaker 4: me get a I might add that to it moment.

934
00:45:55,760 --> 00:45:58,719
Speaker 4: This is one of them like IM make announcement earlierly

935
00:45:58,840 --> 00:46:02,160
Speaker 4: were moving to Africa whatever, y'all bet So it's like

936
00:46:02,200 --> 00:46:09,920
Speaker 4: one of them things rock classes. You're real boy, Hey boy,

937
00:46:09,960 --> 00:46:11,279
Speaker 4: I'm finn to go to the studio of the night,

938
00:46:11,360 --> 00:46:13,080
Speaker 4: but we're doing back rack last night.

939
00:46:13,200 --> 00:46:15,319
Speaker 2: Boy, Come on, man, it is you. Uh.

940
00:46:15,680 --> 00:46:18,680
Speaker 5: You talked about the book process. We are fresh all

941
00:46:18,800 --> 00:46:22,240
Speaker 5: of going through that process. It's interesting because you did.

942
00:46:22,080 --> 00:46:23,799
Speaker 3: The audio book. We also did the audio book.

943
00:46:24,040 --> 00:46:26,560
Speaker 5: What was that like for you being in the studio.

944
00:46:26,600 --> 00:46:30,080
Speaker 5: Obviously you are recording artists, right a slash hyphen that

945
00:46:30,080 --> 00:46:32,520
Speaker 5: you're going to be a New York Times bestseller after

946
00:46:32,560 --> 00:46:35,520
Speaker 5: the book comes out, But what what was that like

947
00:46:35,960 --> 00:46:38,960
Speaker 5: during that doing the engineering of you actually having to

948
00:46:39,040 --> 00:46:41,120
Speaker 5: dictate and pronunciate.

949
00:46:41,000 --> 00:46:42,000
Speaker 3: Like, how was that for you?

950
00:46:42,160 --> 00:46:45,360
Speaker 4: I'm fine, I'm fire, And I listened and I listened.

951
00:46:46,280 --> 00:46:49,680
Speaker 4: I listened to audio books. Okay, so I've listened to

952
00:46:49,719 --> 00:46:52,759
Speaker 4: like the stale ones, and I've listened to something that

953
00:46:52,800 --> 00:46:57,280
Speaker 4: had a little affliction. And so when I'm reading the stories,

954
00:46:57,320 --> 00:47:00,440
Speaker 4: I'm already knowing I'm damn to change the voice on

955
00:47:00,480 --> 00:47:04,520
Speaker 4: some of that shit. I'm damn, he said she. I'm

956
00:47:04,520 --> 00:47:06,200
Speaker 4: doing all that with it, you know what I'm saying.

957
00:47:06,239 --> 00:47:08,399
Speaker 4: And like I said, I I'm one of them kids.

958
00:47:08,480 --> 00:47:10,399
Speaker 4: I used to raise my hand when I was trying

959
00:47:10,440 --> 00:47:12,839
Speaker 4: to read out loud. Yeah, I don't read the word.

960
00:47:12,880 --> 00:47:16,719
Speaker 4: I done read the word before I done got to it.

961
00:47:17,160 --> 00:47:19,800
Speaker 4: So I'm reading and looking up at y'all while you

962
00:47:19,840 --> 00:47:21,239
Speaker 4: know what I'm saying. I'm doing that up there, you know,

963
00:47:21,520 --> 00:47:25,040
Speaker 4: And I'm doing that very early. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm

964
00:47:25,040 --> 00:47:28,120
Speaker 4: going yeah, yeah, I'm I'm doing that, so you know,

965
00:47:28,160 --> 00:47:29,560
Speaker 4: I wanted to do that. And then first of all,

966
00:47:29,560 --> 00:47:32,879
Speaker 4: listened to myself listening to the audiobook back, It's like, damn,

967
00:47:32,960 --> 00:47:35,680
Speaker 4: it's funny, like because I don't realize I talk like that.

968
00:47:35,719 --> 00:47:38,400
Speaker 4: I don't realize I have an accent. I don't realize

969
00:47:38,400 --> 00:47:40,080
Speaker 4: any of that stuff. But like listening to the book

970
00:47:40,200 --> 00:47:42,279
Speaker 4: is like, damn, but you got some words you need

971
00:47:42,280 --> 00:47:44,560
Speaker 4: to work on. You might not be stephen A, but

972
00:47:46,160 --> 00:47:50,799
Speaker 4: you know, but I'm genuine man, I'm me, I'm transparent,

973
00:47:50,840 --> 00:47:53,839
Speaker 4: I'm very vulnerable in this and this is a very

974
00:47:53,960 --> 00:47:56,640
Speaker 4: like introspective piece of work man from me. I think

975
00:47:56,680 --> 00:48:00,320
Speaker 4: people be very surprised and talk about and reading is

976
00:48:00,320 --> 00:48:03,000
Speaker 4: difficult because we actually read it. I didn't like the

977
00:48:03,000 --> 00:48:05,400
Speaker 4: way that I sounded, so I actually had a professional

978
00:48:05,440 --> 00:48:07,640
Speaker 4: come and do it over for my part real because

979
00:48:07,640 --> 00:48:10,680
Speaker 4: I listened to audiobooks too, so I didn't like the

980
00:48:10,800 --> 00:48:15,040
Speaker 4: way I sounded and I felt like it wasn't the best.

981
00:48:15,480 --> 00:48:18,920
Speaker 1: So I know firsthand how difficult. Well it was easy

982
00:48:18,960 --> 00:48:20,560
Speaker 1: to you, but for me, it was difficult.

983
00:48:20,640 --> 00:48:25,200
Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, yeah, you know, I'm reading, I'm reading I

984
00:48:25,200 --> 00:48:27,720
Speaker 4: don't know. I was probably I probably read four chapters

985
00:48:27,760 --> 00:48:30,520
Speaker 4: a night until it was done right. But they got

986
00:48:30,520 --> 00:48:32,000
Speaker 4: to set up. They got to set up in my

987
00:48:32,120 --> 00:48:34,759
Speaker 4: personal space, my personal studio space, so I was comfortable.

988
00:48:35,120 --> 00:48:40,520
Speaker 4: I'm having probably got on slides or something, and they

989
00:48:40,600 --> 00:48:42,040
Speaker 4: got the mic set up and it was just like

990
00:48:42,160 --> 00:48:47,080
Speaker 4: reading out loud, and I don't know, I don't know.

991
00:48:47,160 --> 00:48:49,439
Speaker 4: I mean, you know, obviously after you get to reading

992
00:48:49,480 --> 00:48:51,960
Speaker 4: so long, your energy could fall up, so they have

993
00:48:52,080 --> 00:48:54,600
Speaker 4: someone letting you know about maintaining the energy.

994
00:48:54,640 --> 00:48:57,000
Speaker 2: But I don't know. I think it was it was

995
00:48:57,200 --> 00:49:00,040
Speaker 2: very important for me to do read mind.

996
00:49:00,280 --> 00:49:02,120
Speaker 3: It was very important. It's one of those things. It

997
00:49:02,239 --> 00:49:03,960
Speaker 3: was like you're in the studio all day.

998
00:49:04,680 --> 00:49:07,560
Speaker 5: I think being in education helped me do it because

999
00:49:07,560 --> 00:49:10,239
Speaker 5: I'm used to reading to kids, okay, and so I

1000
00:49:10,280 --> 00:49:12,000
Speaker 5: remember it's the first time I ever sat down in

1001
00:49:12,040 --> 00:49:14,720
Speaker 5: front of a classroom. The kids were untying my shoes,

1002
00:49:14,960 --> 00:49:17,839
Speaker 5: they were punching my leg, and I'm just like, how

1003
00:49:17,840 --> 00:49:19,200
Speaker 5: do I now focus on these words?

1004
00:49:19,200 --> 00:49:20,640
Speaker 3: I got to show it to them, and then all

1005
00:49:20,640 --> 00:49:21,080
Speaker 3: of that.

1006
00:49:20,960 --> 00:49:24,160
Speaker 5: Prepared you for the moment of now getting in that studio.

1007
00:49:24,600 --> 00:49:26,480
Speaker 5: The toughest part is when somebody's in your air. Like

1008
00:49:27,000 --> 00:49:28,560
Speaker 5: you missed the on that last sentence.

1009
00:49:29,040 --> 00:49:32,879
Speaker 2: Wait wait wait go back. You didn't say, uh wait

1010
00:49:32,880 --> 00:49:33,879
Speaker 2: wait wait go back, go back.

1011
00:49:33,960 --> 00:49:37,840
Speaker 4: Yeah, And man, it could get like I said, it

1012
00:49:37,880 --> 00:49:40,680
Speaker 4: got a little lengthy. But and I was knocking three

1013
00:49:40,760 --> 00:49:44,680
Speaker 4: or four chapters out of night and still recording some

1014
00:49:44,760 --> 00:49:45,279
Speaker 4: music though.

1015
00:49:45,640 --> 00:49:49,080
Speaker 1: And you work with our friend Charlomagne. Yeah, Black privilege,

1016
00:49:49,480 --> 00:49:53,000
Speaker 1: talk about that. How that relationship come about? Man, I'm

1017
00:49:53,000 --> 00:49:53,800
Speaker 1: gonna be truthful.

1018
00:49:53,840 --> 00:49:55,640
Speaker 4: Man, I was working on this book and all I

1019
00:49:55,680 --> 00:50:02,799
Speaker 4: know is Charlomagne kepped his way in there. Something This

1020
00:50:02,880 --> 00:50:05,240
Speaker 4: sounds like, Yeah, I think I think he's just smart.

1021
00:50:05,239 --> 00:50:08,160
Speaker 2: Man. You know, you know, you know, I'm a winner.

1022
00:50:08,200 --> 00:50:08,799
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.

1023
00:50:08,800 --> 00:50:12,279
Speaker 4: You know, when I put something into the university, most

1024
00:50:12,320 --> 00:50:15,000
Speaker 4: of the time it's successful. So it was nothing Me

1025
00:50:15,000 --> 00:50:17,040
Speaker 4: and him said downn't even talked about me. I looked

1026
00:50:17,120 --> 00:50:20,560
Speaker 4: up I've seen his name or something. I was like, okay,

1027
00:50:20,800 --> 00:50:21,359
Speaker 4: you know what I mean.

1028
00:50:22,120 --> 00:50:24,480
Speaker 2: But you also helped him out with crystals? Yeah, yeah

1029
00:50:25,520 --> 00:50:28,120
Speaker 2: about that. Yeah, he has a few crystals. I think.

1030
00:50:28,400 --> 00:50:30,520
Speaker 4: Well, I know down in South Carolina where he's from,

1031
00:50:31,000 --> 00:50:33,600
Speaker 4: and I know the I know the owner of like

1032
00:50:33,719 --> 00:50:37,000
Speaker 4: all the crystals at Baltimore. It's a friend of mine,

1033
00:50:38,280 --> 00:50:42,279
Speaker 4: and uh, you know, I'll be having my hands in

1034
00:50:42,320 --> 00:50:46,880
Speaker 4: a little something and uh he Charlemagne was interested in

1035
00:50:47,480 --> 00:50:48,920
Speaker 4: that that I had my hand in.

1036
00:50:49,040 --> 00:50:50,120
Speaker 2: So I introduced him to.

1037
00:50:51,840 --> 00:50:54,600
Speaker 4: Just cool, cool guy nature anything, and they built their

1038
00:50:54,640 --> 00:50:57,799
Speaker 4: own rapport and he opened up I think he opened

1039
00:50:57,840 --> 00:50:58,520
Speaker 4: up more than one.

1040
00:50:59,640 --> 00:50:59,879
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1041
00:51:00,080 --> 00:51:03,640
Speaker 4: Think he's doing this thing. So at times I want

1042
00:51:03,640 --> 00:51:06,640
Speaker 4: to ask for a royal chi ray. Let me that black,

1043
00:51:06,840 --> 00:51:11,160
Speaker 4: Let me that black man. You some shoot me son,

1044
00:51:12,280 --> 00:51:14,399
Speaker 4: that black. You can't just let some of that. That's

1045
00:51:14,440 --> 00:51:17,879
Speaker 4: the black affair, offensive black effect. Man, You're gonna shoot

1046
00:51:17,920 --> 00:51:19,040
Speaker 4: me some new black tex.

1047
00:51:19,280 --> 00:51:19,520
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1048
00:51:19,680 --> 00:51:23,680
Speaker 4: Man, but uh, you worked out.

1049
00:51:23,560 --> 00:51:28,239
Speaker 5: For you obviously you've been successful. Shotty mentioned watching your

1050
00:51:28,320 --> 00:51:30,759
Speaker 5: kids and be a part of their lives. I mean,

1051
00:51:30,880 --> 00:51:33,880
Speaker 5: you got one of the top young basketball players in

1052
00:51:33,920 --> 00:51:37,399
Speaker 5: the country. Man, for a guy who loved was basketball,

1053
00:51:37,840 --> 00:51:41,120
Speaker 5: what is that like like watching him be like.

1054
00:51:41,760 --> 00:51:45,600
Speaker 3: Be way better than I want to? Yeah, they have

1055
00:51:45,800 --> 00:51:48,239
Speaker 3: number ten and is he number ten in Georgia or what?

1056
00:51:48,480 --> 00:51:52,200
Speaker 2: You know? He's rand naturally, but naturally he top twenty five. Naturally.

1057
00:51:52,239 --> 00:51:55,279
Speaker 4: We just left to get here today. We just did

1058
00:51:55,360 --> 00:51:58,960
Speaker 4: a tournament in Cincinnati. Yeah, they'll probably put out a

1059
00:51:59,000 --> 00:52:03,000
Speaker 4: new ranking cause this youth sports stuff is it's crazy.

1060
00:52:03,120 --> 00:52:03,720
Speaker 4: It's crazy.

1061
00:52:03,760 --> 00:52:05,120
Speaker 2: It's crazy. It's crazy.

1062
00:52:05,160 --> 00:52:08,319
Speaker 4: My son literally graduates in twenty thirty four and they

1063
00:52:08,400 --> 00:52:12,640
Speaker 4: have like a twenty thirty four class twenty thirty.

1064
00:52:12,320 --> 00:52:13,640
Speaker 2: You know, and it's it's real.

1065
00:52:13,880 --> 00:52:17,160
Speaker 4: It's I mean, I can't even tell you how many

1066
00:52:17,440 --> 00:52:20,480
Speaker 4: fights almost saw at this AU tournament this weekend. I mean,

1067
00:52:20,520 --> 00:52:27,040
Speaker 4: the sheriff came real, real like passion from coaches, parents, kids,

1068
00:52:27,520 --> 00:52:30,880
Speaker 4: and in the fourth grade, I did not have this

1069
00:52:31,080 --> 00:52:37,359
Speaker 4: much passion about anything but these kids. And oh man,

1070
00:52:37,400 --> 00:52:40,319
Speaker 4: it's just man. I love being around it right now.

1071
00:52:40,360 --> 00:52:43,480
Speaker 4: I mean, if you haven't been around youth sports, well

1072
00:52:43,520 --> 00:52:48,120
Speaker 4: it's football, basketball. If you just don't have motivation anymore,

1073
00:52:48,200 --> 00:52:50,839
Speaker 4: just go around those kids, man. I mean the way

1074
00:52:50,840 --> 00:52:53,600
Speaker 4: they jump up and down, the way they talk like adults,

1075
00:52:53,640 --> 00:52:57,720
Speaker 4: the way they the mannerisms. You mix that with wherever

1076
00:52:57,800 --> 00:53:01,640
Speaker 4: they from, whatever household, you throw that with background music

1077
00:53:01,719 --> 00:53:05,400
Speaker 4: and some Nike it's some Kobe's just John Morans and

1078
00:53:05,440 --> 00:53:07,000
Speaker 4: you got some entertainment going on.

1079
00:53:07,120 --> 00:53:10,880
Speaker 2: Man. I love watching it. I love having a kid.

1080
00:53:10,800 --> 00:53:14,919
Speaker 4: That is just so poised and so humble with having

1081
00:53:15,000 --> 00:53:19,840
Speaker 4: a podcast with my son with him being because he

1082
00:53:19,920 --> 00:53:22,560
Speaker 4: asked me in this tournament, like the games started getting

1083
00:53:22,560 --> 00:53:25,120
Speaker 4: lit and he and womam, he said, Hey, all these

1084
00:53:25,120 --> 00:53:28,160
Speaker 4: people come to watch me play?

1085
00:53:28,160 --> 00:53:28,640
Speaker 2: Asked me that.

1086
00:53:28,760 --> 00:53:31,200
Speaker 4: I say, I mean, they are some other people they

1087
00:53:31,280 --> 00:53:32,879
Speaker 4: want to come see play, but you know, they want

1088
00:53:32,880 --> 00:53:34,480
Speaker 4: to see you, know, and they want to see you

1089
00:53:34,520 --> 00:53:36,680
Speaker 4: do good, and they want to see you they want

1090
00:53:36,680 --> 00:53:38,239
Speaker 4: to see you fail too, you know what I'm saying.

1091
00:53:38,239 --> 00:53:42,120
Speaker 4: They want to see him fail too. But I don't know, man,

1092
00:53:42,280 --> 00:53:45,719
Speaker 4: I think my son his superpower is confidence. I've been

1093
00:53:45,760 --> 00:53:48,920
Speaker 4: installing that confidence and this little black boy for so

1094
00:53:49,080 --> 00:53:51,759
Speaker 4: long that it's hard to really rattle that, you know

1095
00:53:51,840 --> 00:53:53,560
Speaker 4: what I'm saying. He got a couple of things to

1096
00:53:53,600 --> 00:53:55,160
Speaker 4: work on, just like I do. But he's only ten,

1097
00:53:55,840 --> 00:54:00,680
Speaker 4: and I'm just very I'm very, very proud of that.

1098
00:54:00,719 --> 00:54:02,720
Speaker 4: I'm very proud of that kid. That's a dopeer compans.

1099
00:54:02,719 --> 00:54:03,520
Speaker 2: I'm proud of that kid.

1100
00:54:03,920 --> 00:54:06,560
Speaker 1: But it's also changed too, Like as far as youth sports,

1101
00:54:07,040 --> 00:54:11,120
Speaker 1: kids have personal trainers now, the NIL deals now at

1102
00:54:11,200 --> 00:54:14,279
Speaker 1: high school kids is getting millions of dollars before they

1103
00:54:14,280 --> 00:54:16,680
Speaker 1: even go to the league. What's your Because you're a

1104
00:54:16,680 --> 00:54:20,359
Speaker 1: sports fan too, So what's your thoughts on like how

1105
00:54:20,400 --> 00:54:22,840
Speaker 1: it was before and how it is now?

1106
00:54:23,640 --> 00:54:27,080
Speaker 4: This is long overdue. You know you're going that long

1107
00:54:27,160 --> 00:54:33,000
Speaker 4: without no kids? Man, literally, bro, we used to be

1108
00:54:33,080 --> 00:54:35,279
Speaker 4: hungry in college, like we used to be hungry. D

1109
00:54:35,360 --> 00:54:40,120
Speaker 4: one full ride scholarship, full ride whoppers were ninety nine

1110
00:54:40,239 --> 00:54:42,359
Speaker 4: cent boy, you know what I'm saying.

1111
00:54:42,360 --> 00:54:45,040
Speaker 1: But you was hungry, but you was also hungry. You

1112
00:54:45,160 --> 00:54:47,000
Speaker 1: think these kids is hungry because even I go to the

1113
00:54:47,040 --> 00:54:49,200
Speaker 1: NBA games half of the day just running up and

1114
00:54:49,200 --> 00:54:49,640
Speaker 1: down the court.

1115
00:54:49,640 --> 00:54:51,040
Speaker 2: You think that they're really hungry.

1116
00:54:51,160 --> 00:54:57,840
Speaker 4: Now you get hungry if you know something on the line.

1117
00:54:59,200 --> 00:55:01,759
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying. Some of these kids know

1118
00:55:01,840 --> 00:55:07,000
Speaker 4: something's on the line. And I think you start identifying

1119
00:55:07,880 --> 00:55:11,399
Speaker 4: those kids by the hunger you see and the way

1120
00:55:11,480 --> 00:55:14,960
Speaker 4: they move and the way they play. Some of these kids,

1121
00:55:16,000 --> 00:55:20,920
Speaker 4: like before, they if they ever don't even go to

1122
00:55:20,960 --> 00:55:24,120
Speaker 4: the league. They can get some money. Now, get the

1123
00:55:24,200 --> 00:55:27,160
Speaker 4: right LinkedIn information, do the right investment. Who knows what,

1124
00:55:27,200 --> 00:55:30,359
Speaker 4: and they can change their life through nil money. And

1125
00:55:30,440 --> 00:55:33,000
Speaker 4: I think, and I know for a fact my son

1126
00:55:33,160 --> 00:55:35,600
Speaker 4: he'll probably get it in high school. But I'm just saying,

1127
00:55:35,640 --> 00:55:39,000
Speaker 4: like this time is way overdue. I mean you got man,

1128
00:55:39,040 --> 00:55:42,520
Speaker 4: you got people that man, we got people that we

1129
00:55:42,719 --> 00:55:43,640
Speaker 4: that went to college.

1130
00:55:43,680 --> 00:55:46,080
Speaker 3: Man, we we look man, that boy.

1131
00:55:46,120 --> 00:55:48,759
Speaker 4: I just seen Jalen Rose Man that man. Say you

1132
00:55:48,880 --> 00:55:52,279
Speaker 4: the first person ever named Jalen in this whole in

1133
00:55:52,320 --> 00:55:54,640
Speaker 4: the world. I'm trying to explain that to Heylo, like

1134
00:55:54,680 --> 00:55:56,680
Speaker 4: what do you mean? You know how we got like

1135
00:55:56,800 --> 00:55:59,200
Speaker 4: Jalen Johnson on our team? And I'm like, hey, you know,

1136
00:55:59,280 --> 00:56:01,719
Speaker 4: like Jalen Brunt. I'm like, broh home the first one ever.

1137
00:56:01,800 --> 00:56:02,439
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying.

1138
00:56:02,520 --> 00:56:04,560
Speaker 5: The All Star Game they had six Jalens on the

1139
00:56:04,560 --> 00:56:07,040
Speaker 5: court at the same time. For real, you know it

1140
00:56:07,080 --> 00:56:12,560
Speaker 5: was Jail Durant, Uh, Jail Durant and yet to do

1141
00:56:12,680 --> 00:56:13,720
Speaker 5: for Jalen Johnson.

1142
00:56:14,640 --> 00:56:19,200
Speaker 4: Ye, height a man ain't get a nickel, man, ain't

1143
00:56:19,239 --> 00:56:22,080
Speaker 4: get a fire, man, ain't get five man get free dinner.

1144
00:56:22,840 --> 00:56:28,319
Speaker 4: So I think that some kind of way, you know,

1145
00:56:28,360 --> 00:56:30,200
Speaker 4: and it could get out of hand and make certain

1146
00:56:30,239 --> 00:56:33,080
Speaker 4: teams lopside. Just depends on you know, you have these

1147
00:56:33,080 --> 00:56:35,600
Speaker 4: boosters who have they can they can pay for a

1148
00:56:35,680 --> 00:56:38,200
Speaker 4: championship now. But if you can't do it, you know,

1149
00:56:38,640 --> 00:56:40,360
Speaker 4: let's do if you got enough money to buy you

1150
00:56:40,400 --> 00:56:43,759
Speaker 4: a great team, you know, make sure these kids eating though.

1151
00:56:43,840 --> 00:56:45,399
Speaker 2: Man, that's what it's about kids. Man.

1152
00:56:45,960 --> 00:56:49,480
Speaker 4: Man, them coaches come to your parents' house, they be

1153
00:56:49,560 --> 00:56:52,680
Speaker 4: looking around them. Folks know you ain't got no money

1154
00:56:52,680 --> 00:56:55,560
Speaker 4: when they come and recruit you. Boy, you know what

1155
00:56:55,600 --> 00:56:58,799
Speaker 4: I'm saying. They some coaches are compassionate about that, Like damn,

1156
00:56:58,800 --> 00:57:00,000
Speaker 4: he come from this type environment.

1157
00:57:00,080 --> 00:57:01,520
Speaker 2: It in some or not.

1158
00:57:01,719 --> 00:57:04,359
Speaker 3: Man, they know to you think that's the way. We

1159
00:57:04,400 --> 00:57:07,400
Speaker 3: watched Indiana do it this year. I mean, this is

1160
00:57:07,560 --> 00:57:10,319
Speaker 3: a team historically has had the worst record in the

1161
00:57:10,360 --> 00:57:11,400
Speaker 3: history of college football.

1162
00:57:11,760 --> 00:57:13,839
Speaker 5: Yeah, you got a big booster like Mark you been

1163
00:57:13,880 --> 00:57:16,960
Speaker 5: coming in. We're gonna bring the coach in national champion.

1164
00:57:17,600 --> 00:57:19,200
Speaker 5: I saw mister b said he's trying to do that

1165
00:57:19,240 --> 00:57:22,040
Speaker 5: for Eastern Carolina to see him do it, right, But who.

1166
00:57:22,560 --> 00:57:23,400
Speaker 3: What about Atlanta?

1167
00:57:24,040 --> 00:57:26,680
Speaker 4: No, But like think about miss what he's talking about

1168
00:57:26,840 --> 00:57:31,040
Speaker 4: Carolina East Carolina, right, think about all the little Carolina

1169
00:57:31,200 --> 00:57:35,560
Speaker 4: little the possibilities these kids got now because he buying

1170
00:57:35,600 --> 00:57:37,959
Speaker 4: it now, he can't buy the ref reason and maybe

1171
00:57:37,960 --> 00:57:41,840
Speaker 4: he can't, but he can't. He's like, yeah, but he

1172
00:57:41,840 --> 00:57:45,920
Speaker 4: can bring in the talent. As far as Atlanta, I mean,

1173
00:57:45,920 --> 00:57:48,480
Speaker 4: we have a lot of people that have capital too

1174
00:57:48,520 --> 00:57:50,720
Speaker 4: and Atlanta. Do you know, I don't know if you

1175
00:57:50,720 --> 00:57:53,680
Speaker 4: want to bring him what Tech or Georgia.

1176
00:57:53,760 --> 00:57:57,160
Speaker 5: I was thinking Georgia was George's already powered Georgia Tech,

1177
00:57:57,280 --> 00:57:59,840
Speaker 5: which used to be a basketball school, hasn't had to

1178
00:57:59,840 --> 00:58:00,840
Speaker 5: say unfortunate recently.

1179
00:58:01,840 --> 00:58:02,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, we're from that.

1180
00:58:04,160 --> 00:58:10,640
Speaker 4: Kenny Anderson Tech era that Scott Scott, Marlburry, Travis Travis

1181
00:58:10,920 --> 00:58:14,400
Speaker 4: Marlberry Maberry era. Oh my gosh, I remember he caught it.

1182
00:58:14,480 --> 00:58:16,360
Speaker 4: I remember when he got named caught this alley opening

1183
00:58:16,440 --> 00:58:19,160
Speaker 4: game and I was like, yo, this he was like

1184
00:58:19,240 --> 00:58:20,400
Speaker 4: laying in the air man.

1185
00:58:20,440 --> 00:58:23,160
Speaker 3: It was been a minute. The early two thousand they

1186
00:58:23,200 --> 00:58:25,520
Speaker 3: went to the final four. They was like that all

1187
00:58:25,560 --> 00:58:27,920
Speaker 3: the names we named, that's when they was like that.

1188
00:58:28,320 --> 00:58:30,720
Speaker 5: Jack, So it was probably the last time they played

1189
00:58:30,720 --> 00:58:32,080
Speaker 5: for the Chips Jared Jack.

1190
00:58:32,160 --> 00:58:32,800
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1191
00:58:33,000 --> 00:58:36,919
Speaker 1: Well, speaking of the book, before we wrap business, what's

1192
00:58:36,960 --> 00:58:40,960
Speaker 1: the what's the worst financial move that you made, and

1193
00:58:41,000 --> 00:58:43,280
Speaker 1: what's the best financial move that you made? Like what's

1194
00:58:43,280 --> 00:58:47,000
Speaker 1: the what's the biggest mistake and what's the biggest Like when.

1195
00:58:49,160 --> 00:58:50,360
Speaker 2: Let's talk about the bad stuff.

1196
00:58:50,400 --> 00:58:53,760
Speaker 4: I invested into a dispenser, I invested into this place,

1197
00:58:53,800 --> 00:58:56,640
Speaker 4: called Pineapple Express, and they basically just ran off with

1198
00:58:56,760 --> 00:59:02,240
Speaker 4: my with my money. The reason that or cause it's

1199
00:59:02,240 --> 00:59:04,680
Speaker 4: some millions involved, and the reason that that not only

1200
00:59:04,720 --> 00:59:07,840
Speaker 4: hurts because it's the amount of money, it hurts because

1201
00:59:09,400 --> 00:59:12,320
Speaker 4: I tapped on some of my friends, not like business partners,

1202
00:59:12,360 --> 00:59:15,480
Speaker 4: some of my friends on giving them an investment opportunity

1203
00:59:15,520 --> 00:59:18,840
Speaker 4: to be a part of something that was legal and

1204
00:59:18,880 --> 00:59:22,440
Speaker 4: should have been been having some payouts. And I was

1205
00:59:22,520 --> 00:59:25,760
Speaker 4: just trying to like I went to some of my friends.

1206
00:59:25,760 --> 00:59:27,640
Speaker 4: That's the best way I can articulate that. I went

1207
00:59:27,680 --> 00:59:30,640
Speaker 4: to some of my friends and I was like, you know,

1208
00:59:30,800 --> 00:59:33,160
Speaker 4: give me fifty or a hundred, and i'm'a put you know,

1209
00:59:33,200 --> 00:59:36,960
Speaker 4: and just and then so for these people at this

1210
00:59:37,440 --> 00:59:43,880
Speaker 4: dispensary to you know, basically fold on the things that

1211
00:59:43,920 --> 00:59:46,040
Speaker 4: they promised. And it's been multiple years. So I'm just

1212
00:59:46,040 --> 00:59:49,520
Speaker 4: trying to get that lawsuit handle. That's a whole lossuit

1213
00:59:49,520 --> 00:59:52,240
Speaker 4: to just get all get everything back from that and more.

1214
00:59:53,280 --> 00:59:59,280
Speaker 4: And then I invested in a spect that I thought

1215
00:59:59,360 --> 01:00:02,160
Speaker 4: was gonna be sc that's from and that junk smacked me,

1216
01:00:03,400 --> 01:00:11,560
Speaker 4: smacked me talking about took me, smacked me, dispenser respect,

1217
01:00:11,680 --> 01:00:12,760
Speaker 4: I know it's one more.

1218
01:00:17,840 --> 01:00:18,280
Speaker 2: Spencer.

1219
01:00:18,360 --> 01:00:22,520
Speaker 4: Respect man, come on, man, I've made some I've made

1220
01:00:22,560 --> 01:00:23,720
Speaker 4: some bad investments.

1221
01:00:24,560 --> 01:00:32,160
Speaker 2: Oh man, come on one more. Yeah. Oh.

1222
01:00:32,280 --> 01:00:34,800
Speaker 3: And I invested in a land easement.

1223
01:00:36,400 --> 01:00:40,520
Speaker 4: Because it was like what certain billionaires do you know

1224
01:00:40,560 --> 01:00:44,240
Speaker 4: when they hit you with that one? Billionaires do that

1225
01:00:44,360 --> 01:00:47,560
Speaker 4: all the money they hit you with that one. I

1226
01:00:47,640 --> 01:00:49,960
Speaker 4: put some money on some land easement that was supposed

1227
01:00:50,000 --> 01:00:53,080
Speaker 4: to give me some kind of tax benefits, and I

1228
01:00:53,160 --> 01:00:56,920
Speaker 4: lost some money there. The land easement was not as

1229
01:00:57,040 --> 01:01:01,480
Speaker 4: much as the SPACs or the dispensary. But I I

1230
01:01:01,520 --> 01:01:03,920
Speaker 4: can't sit in front of you and act like everything

1231
01:01:04,000 --> 01:01:05,200
Speaker 4: I've done.

1232
01:01:05,400 --> 01:01:08,640
Speaker 2: Yes, I mean it's part of it, yeah, part of it.

1233
01:01:08,680 --> 01:01:10,400
Speaker 3: I I can't let you out on that note, though.

1234
01:01:10,480 --> 01:01:12,560
Speaker 2: Well what's the best what's the best thing you've done financially?

1235
01:01:12,640 --> 01:01:13,919
Speaker 3: Yeah, we give us the best. And then I got

1236
01:01:13,960 --> 01:01:15,640
Speaker 3: we gotta we gotta talk music, but gotta tell us

1237
01:01:15,640 --> 01:01:16,200
Speaker 3: the best.

1238
01:01:17,000 --> 01:01:24,760
Speaker 4: The best investment was first buying the dirt. This is

1239
01:01:24,800 --> 01:01:27,680
Speaker 4: one of the best. It's one of the best. My

1240
01:01:27,760 --> 01:01:31,360
Speaker 4: best investment is those kids education that has private school.

1241
01:01:32,400 --> 01:01:38,360
Speaker 4: But I bought the dirt to where Esco is now.

1242
01:01:38,440 --> 01:01:41,880
Speaker 4: I bought the dirt, then put a business on the

1243
01:01:41,920 --> 01:01:50,160
Speaker 4: dirt and then turned that into a cash paying business.

1244
01:01:50,360 --> 01:01:53,600
Speaker 4: And then so that was that was l that was lucrative.

1245
01:01:55,240 --> 01:01:59,800
Speaker 4: My wife I bought her daycare that she's still on.

1246
01:02:00,240 --> 01:02:02,680
Speaker 4: She doesn't work there obviously somebody else has. But that's

1247
01:02:02,800 --> 01:02:07,800
Speaker 4: very lucrative too, because AI can't make kids.

1248
01:02:09,720 --> 01:02:12,960
Speaker 2: I mean, that's gonna be all right. Those daycares is expensive.

1249
01:02:13,920 --> 01:02:18,880
Speaker 4: Tuition them daycare, that's tuition. They care something else. Man,

1250
01:02:19,040 --> 01:02:24,240
Speaker 4: that money, that money is different, but that's through property.

1251
01:02:24,280 --> 01:02:28,320
Speaker 4: Let me think about something that I did. I invested

1252
01:02:28,320 --> 01:02:33,640
Speaker 4: in SpaceX, yeah, very early on, early early on. Man,

1253
01:02:33,680 --> 01:02:36,240
Speaker 4: If I tell y'all what I got in on SPACEXT,

1254
01:02:36,480 --> 01:02:39,160
Speaker 4: I know y'all know that too. I'm actually I'm I'm

1255
01:02:39,560 --> 01:02:41,800
Speaker 4: I'm invested in Anthropic too. I saw what they just

1256
01:02:41,840 --> 01:02:44,320
Speaker 4: said about that. I don't know how valuation yeah, or

1257
01:02:44,400 --> 01:02:45,440
Speaker 4: the government situation.

1258
01:02:45,640 --> 01:02:45,840
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1259
01:02:45,880 --> 01:02:47,400
Speaker 4: What do you think? What do you think that's gonna

1260
01:02:47,400 --> 01:02:49,320
Speaker 4: do for my investment? I'm in front of the right guy.

1261
01:02:50,320 --> 01:02:51,640
Speaker 3: I think that topical be okay.

1262
01:02:52,200 --> 01:02:54,000
Speaker 5: Uh, there's going to be a part of the segment

1263
01:02:54,000 --> 01:02:56,320
Speaker 5: that's looking at it like great, I'm glad you didn't

1264
01:02:56,360 --> 01:02:56,640
Speaker 5: do it.

1265
01:02:56,960 --> 01:02:57,080
Speaker 2: Now.

1266
01:02:57,120 --> 01:03:00,720
Speaker 5: What happened right after they said no their competitor said, yes, yeah,

1267
01:03:01,160 --> 01:03:02,880
Speaker 5: so we got we gotta watch that. But you know,

1268
01:03:02,960 --> 01:03:05,720
Speaker 5: you have Microsoft as an investor, you got Amazon that

1269
01:03:05,800 --> 01:03:06,880
Speaker 5: whole ownership in it.

1270
01:03:07,080 --> 01:03:08,640
Speaker 3: That they'll be fun. I think they'll be fun.

1271
01:03:08,760 --> 01:03:09,800
Speaker 2: How'd you get at SpaceX?

1272
01:03:10,360 --> 01:03:11,400
Speaker 3: You can't wait for that ip on?

1273
01:03:11,520 --> 01:03:16,560
Speaker 2: Hunh, that's a that's a big that's a big one.

1274
01:03:16,680 --> 01:03:19,560
Speaker 3: Well and now I'm you're already at a trillion.

1275
01:03:19,200 --> 01:03:21,120
Speaker 5: One point Well, it could be up to one point

1276
01:03:21,120 --> 01:03:23,800
Speaker 5: five with the Xai situation being merged.

1277
01:03:23,920 --> 01:03:26,920
Speaker 4: I just had like a forty minute it was. It

1278
01:03:26,960 --> 01:03:29,439
Speaker 4: was I was in the right place at the right time.

1279
01:03:30,840 --> 01:03:39,880
Speaker 4: I know some pe guys that would when it came across,

1280
01:03:39,920 --> 01:03:42,320
Speaker 4: they disk they would give me the opportunity to you know,

1281
01:03:43,440 --> 01:03:46,720
Speaker 4: and you know with the investments, I gambled, So it

1282
01:03:46,800 --> 01:03:50,160
Speaker 4: kind of feel like gambling with certain investments. So a

1283
01:03:50,160 --> 01:03:52,360
Speaker 4: lot of times I wrote shakes too big and certain

1284
01:03:52,360 --> 01:03:55,479
Speaker 4: stuff and not chakes big enough in other things. But

1285
01:03:55,720 --> 01:03:57,400
Speaker 4: you know, the whole thing is like you're just trying

1286
01:03:57,440 --> 01:04:02,680
Speaker 4: to come up with some multiples, man, you know. And

1287
01:04:02,840 --> 01:04:05,680
Speaker 4: I got in with SpaceX very early. Let me go

1288
01:04:05,720 --> 01:04:08,200
Speaker 4: back to that, got in there very early, and man,

1289
01:04:08,240 --> 01:04:09,800
Speaker 4: I could I just tell y'all off the air.

1290
01:04:11,080 --> 01:04:11,920
Speaker 3: It just felt like I.

1291
01:04:11,840 --> 01:04:13,880
Speaker 4: Got in like early bitcoin. Let me just say that

1292
01:04:13,880 --> 01:04:16,640
Speaker 4: I got in very early. But I'm in on that

1293
01:04:16,720 --> 01:04:19,120
Speaker 4: and so that's a that's a good one. But it

1294
01:04:19,160 --> 01:04:23,720
Speaker 4: hadn't I po yet, but so I need I told

1295
01:04:23,760 --> 01:04:25,560
Speaker 4: y'all when we get off, because I got something to

1296
01:04:25,920 --> 01:04:27,520
Speaker 4: all right, and then let me see if I got

1297
01:04:27,520 --> 01:04:29,480
Speaker 4: one more that that that could. I think that's a

1298
01:04:29,520 --> 01:04:34,360
Speaker 4: good one, though. I think that's a anthropic zen Water.

1299
01:04:35,040 --> 01:04:37,400
Speaker 4: I don't know if you've seen zen Water. It's a

1300
01:04:37,560 --> 01:04:41,560
Speaker 4: water out that uh said water. I said that, But

1301
01:04:42,240 --> 01:04:45,720
Speaker 4: zen Water is h A guy by the name of

1302
01:04:45,800 --> 01:04:50,000
Speaker 4: Lance Collins did zen Water. He did body Armor with

1303
01:04:50,120 --> 01:04:53,720
Speaker 4: that Kobe deal eight million, I think Kobe put in

1304
01:04:53,800 --> 01:04:56,400
Speaker 4: or something. He did that, and uh, if you look

1305
01:04:56,400 --> 01:04:58,080
Speaker 4: at zen Water, you see a lot of investments like

1306
01:04:58,120 --> 01:05:00,840
Speaker 4: me and Harden and Travis Kelse and a few other

1307
01:05:00,880 --> 01:05:03,160
Speaker 4: guys like that. But he is someone that's been in

1308
01:05:03,160 --> 01:05:06,440
Speaker 4: the beverage space for many years and have sold different

1309
01:05:07,120 --> 01:05:10,120
Speaker 4: beverages to different companies once they scale. And so I've

1310
01:05:10,120 --> 01:05:12,560
Speaker 4: been with him very early on too, and I feel

1311
01:05:12,600 --> 01:05:15,520
Speaker 4: confident about that. Some other stuff that I invested in,

1312
01:05:15,560 --> 01:05:18,760
Speaker 4: I just don't know. I'm praying hope something happens, but

1313
01:05:18,960 --> 01:05:22,120
Speaker 4: I think those three right there, I feel like, like,

1314
01:05:22,120 --> 01:05:25,760
Speaker 4: like I said, I'm a little skeptical anthropy, but ai

1315
01:05:26,160 --> 01:05:27,480
Speaker 4: ais is gonna.

1316
01:05:27,560 --> 01:05:29,120
Speaker 3: You only got to get one out of ten. That's

1317
01:05:29,160 --> 01:05:33,160
Speaker 3: the average, they say. And you got the one, the one,

1318
01:05:33,320 --> 01:05:36,000
Speaker 3: like it's like baseball. Yeah, and you're not going back

1319
01:05:36,000 --> 01:05:37,560
Speaker 3: three hundred though. If you bath through hundred, great.

1320
01:05:37,760 --> 01:05:40,400
Speaker 1: I think Jane Harden told us about this in water right, yep,

1321
01:05:40,600 --> 01:05:42,120
Speaker 1: for real, Yeah, he told us about it.

1322
01:05:42,240 --> 01:05:44,400
Speaker 5: Yeah, because we were talking about the Kobe deal with

1323
01:05:44,440 --> 01:05:46,280
Speaker 5: him and he was one of the people that got mentioned.

1324
01:05:46,560 --> 01:05:48,760
Speaker 5: I think Mike trave was involved as well. But yeah,

1325
01:05:48,760 --> 01:05:49,880
Speaker 5: they did. They did pretty well on that.

1326
01:05:50,000 --> 01:05:52,840
Speaker 2: Yeah. And and you see that being like.

1327
01:05:54,280 --> 01:05:57,760
Speaker 4: You see like that being a trend with with black

1328
01:05:57,800 --> 01:06:01,120
Speaker 4: athletes that got money. Now they they learning what a

1329
01:06:01,160 --> 01:06:05,640
Speaker 4: parlayed and they hearing about these Kolbe deals and you know,

1330
01:06:05,760 --> 01:06:08,320
Speaker 4: you some of this stuff wasn't out loud. I think

1331
01:06:08,320 --> 01:06:10,280
Speaker 4: that's the main thing. Some of them wasn't transparent.

1332
01:06:10,280 --> 01:06:12,160
Speaker 2: It was not loud. You had no clue.

1333
01:06:12,360 --> 01:06:15,720
Speaker 4: It was like some some of some of us people

1334
01:06:15,800 --> 01:06:17,800
Speaker 4: look like us, got in those rooms and was not

1335
01:06:18,000 --> 01:06:21,280
Speaker 4: passing on the information. It was not becoming or becoming

1336
01:06:21,520 --> 01:06:23,680
Speaker 4: and that and that's how I got caught in the

1337
01:06:23,760 --> 01:06:25,920
Speaker 4: dispensary stuff because I'm trying to be a bridge to

1338
01:06:26,000 --> 01:06:28,840
Speaker 4: my my brothers. I'm like, yo, let me put you down,

1339
01:06:28,960 --> 01:06:30,280
Speaker 4: let me help you out, let me give me this,

1340
01:06:31,360 --> 01:06:34,080
Speaker 4: you know, and it just and that I'm really salty

1341
01:06:34,120 --> 01:06:37,240
Speaker 4: about that because I was trying to really help some

1342
01:06:37,320 --> 01:06:38,600
Speaker 4: of my friends in that instance.

1343
01:06:38,680 --> 01:06:41,280
Speaker 5: Right there in my head, the true just went off

1344
01:06:41,320 --> 01:06:44,680
Speaker 5: when you said they they didn't want to build that bridge,

1345
01:06:44,760 --> 01:06:46,880
Speaker 5: because that's what happens, right, which is why like we

1346
01:06:47,040 --> 01:06:50,439
Speaker 5: become kind of a place that becomes the bridge, Like, hey,

1347
01:06:50,480 --> 01:06:53,720
Speaker 5: here's the information, here's what we're hearing in those rooms,

1348
01:06:53,720 --> 01:06:54,920
Speaker 5: here's how you can execute on it.

1349
01:06:56,040 --> 01:06:57,560
Speaker 2: But I y'all keep doing that.

1350
01:06:57,800 --> 01:07:00,880
Speaker 5: Yeah, I want to talk about true because grabby night,

1351
01:07:02,120 --> 01:07:03,640
Speaker 5: I'm watching the performance live.

1352
01:07:05,040 --> 01:07:07,720
Speaker 3: They didn't have two chains performing. But she's okay. Next year,

1353
01:07:07,720 --> 01:07:08,200
Speaker 3: it's okay.

1354
01:07:08,440 --> 01:07:08,760
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1355
01:07:09,040 --> 01:07:12,560
Speaker 5: Biaber's up there, got the guitar, his boxes on, putting

1356
01:07:12,600 --> 01:07:13,320
Speaker 5: the beat together.

1357
01:07:14,280 --> 01:07:17,160
Speaker 3: You get to that hook, he pressed it the ad

1358
01:07:17,160 --> 01:07:17,760
Speaker 3: little button.

1359
01:07:19,520 --> 01:07:24,920
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, I said change what I was celebrating And

1360
01:07:25,000 --> 01:07:25,720
Speaker 5: what was that moment?

1361
01:07:25,760 --> 01:07:28,400
Speaker 4: Like for you, man, I was just starting to get

1362
01:07:28,480 --> 01:07:31,360
Speaker 4: text messages because I wasn't watching it when it was

1363
01:07:31,360 --> 01:07:35,920
Speaker 4: going on. But Justin Bieber is a friend of mine.

1364
01:07:36,640 --> 01:07:40,080
Speaker 4: We've been friends for a while, and he invited me

1365
01:07:40,120 --> 01:07:43,320
Speaker 4: to a studio session that I could not make because

1366
01:07:43,360 --> 01:07:46,280
Speaker 4: I was in another state. I wish I would have

1367
01:07:46,320 --> 01:07:50,920
Speaker 4: came hindsight, and he ended up sending me the Yukon

1368
01:07:51,080 --> 01:07:53,600
Speaker 4: record to do ad libs on. So when people hear

1369
01:07:54,560 --> 01:08:00,920
Speaker 4: my yeah on Justin Bieber's song, he didn't steal that,

1370
01:08:01,080 --> 01:08:04,160
Speaker 4: like that's a new Yeah, that's a that's straight out

1371
01:08:04,200 --> 01:08:07,600
Speaker 4: to plastic. It's brand new, it's brand new, straft to rack,

1372
01:08:08,440 --> 01:08:11,680
Speaker 4: no clearance, No, I cleared it, but it wasn't on

1373
01:08:11,720 --> 01:08:12,400
Speaker 4: the clearance rack.

1374
01:08:12,600 --> 01:08:16,519
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah and yeah man. It was just it's cool

1375
01:08:16,520 --> 01:08:18,080
Speaker 2: to be a part of these little moments. Man.

1376
01:08:18,400 --> 01:08:22,760
Speaker 4: I I can't write that type of like I can

1377
01:08:22,840 --> 01:08:24,439
Speaker 4: write the yeah, I don't even have to write that,

1378
01:08:24,520 --> 01:08:27,479
Speaker 4: but what I'm saying, the story behind and Howard this

1379
01:08:27,600 --> 01:08:32,200
Speaker 4: man up there singing in his draws like you dig

1380
01:08:32,240 --> 01:08:35,120
Speaker 4: what I'm saying, and boy he hit him with the yeah,

1381
01:08:35,400 --> 01:08:37,200
Speaker 4: and you know, people hear me like, boy, he used

1382
01:08:37,240 --> 01:08:39,400
Speaker 4: your am. I'm like you know, because I don't know.

1383
01:08:39,439 --> 01:08:41,000
Speaker 4: People were just not hearter for the first time. But

1384
01:08:41,040 --> 01:08:43,679
Speaker 4: it was a great experience. And it's just like, man,

1385
01:08:43,760 --> 01:08:46,479
Speaker 4: like God just be he just throwed me out there sometime.

1386
01:08:46,600 --> 01:08:46,800
Speaker 2: Man.

1387
01:08:46,840 --> 01:08:47,400
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying.

1388
01:08:47,400 --> 01:08:49,559
Speaker 2: I'm doing something right, bro, That's all I can say. Man.

1389
01:08:50,080 --> 01:08:51,719
Speaker 5: I was thinking about this on the way here today

1390
01:08:52,120 --> 01:08:56,680
Speaker 5: when we were talking about all performance agent right, like maturing.

1391
01:08:57,600 --> 01:09:01,200
Speaker 5: I feel like you walk into this base where you

1392
01:09:01,280 --> 01:09:04,040
Speaker 5: fit in in every arena, like you talked about the

1393
01:09:04,120 --> 01:09:06,559
Speaker 5: day in the life, Like if we saw you at

1394
01:09:06,560 --> 01:09:08,960
Speaker 5: the Cardi B concept, It's like change should be there

1395
01:09:09,600 --> 01:09:11,120
Speaker 5: also a game on the court, Oh yeah, he should

1396
01:09:11,120 --> 01:09:15,040
Speaker 5: be there. If he's invest fast, he should be there.

1397
01:09:15,560 --> 01:09:18,599
Speaker 5: If he's at Magic City, oh he's like you fit

1398
01:09:18,720 --> 01:09:20,200
Speaker 5: in all these environments.

1399
01:09:20,840 --> 01:09:21,479
Speaker 2: So Cardi B.

1400
01:09:21,520 --> 01:09:23,040
Speaker 4: I should be at a Cardi B show, I wrote,

1401
01:09:23,040 --> 01:09:25,720
Speaker 4: I wrote something on her project. I should be a

1402
01:09:25,800 --> 01:09:27,360
Speaker 4: court side at the Halls game because I have a

1403
01:09:27,400 --> 01:09:30,280
Speaker 4: partnership with them through the Skyhawks. I should be an

1404
01:09:30,280 --> 01:09:35,080
Speaker 4: investments because who else I'm investing? What else you said?

1405
01:09:35,120 --> 01:09:38,719
Speaker 4: I'd be doing Magic City. I own my own strip

1406
01:09:38,760 --> 01:09:41,080
Speaker 4: club as well. Let's do that. Candy Land, Candy La

1407
01:09:41,160 --> 01:09:44,280
Speaker 4: forget about Candy Land. So me and Magic we like

1408
01:09:46,360 --> 01:09:49,320
Speaker 4: we work in the same field. Yeah you dig what

1409
01:09:49,400 --> 01:09:51,759
Speaker 4: I'm saying. Magic came to my club for my birthday

1410
01:09:51,920 --> 01:09:55,600
Speaker 4: was like seeing Magic. Mister Magic in my club was

1411
01:09:55,680 --> 01:09:58,120
Speaker 4: like a highlight for me. You know, his sons come

1412
01:09:58,200 --> 01:10:00,280
Speaker 4: through all the time. But a lot of suff that

1413
01:10:00,360 --> 01:10:02,920
Speaker 4: you name and Bro, it's not a reach from me.

1414
01:10:03,000 --> 01:10:05,080
Speaker 4: It's it's organic. It's what I'm trying. That's why I'm

1415
01:10:05,080 --> 01:10:06,439
Speaker 4: really trying. It's really organic.

1416
01:10:06,479 --> 01:10:06,599
Speaker 2: Bro.

1417
01:10:07,000 --> 01:10:08,160
Speaker 4: I know you just ringing it off the top of

1418
01:10:08,200 --> 01:10:10,280
Speaker 4: your head, but everything you name it is so organic

1419
01:10:10,320 --> 01:10:12,360
Speaker 4: to me. I'm not looking out of place. I'm not

1420
01:10:13,479 --> 01:10:15,559
Speaker 4: I'm not controning myself to fit in none of that

1421
01:10:15,600 --> 01:10:17,920
Speaker 4: stuff you're talking about, because it's just really me. You

1422
01:10:17,960 --> 01:10:21,680
Speaker 4: wear many hats I'm trying to keep doing on. I

1423
01:10:21,720 --> 01:10:24,200
Speaker 4: just thought, look, I just thought, you know what I'm saying.

1424
01:10:24,520 --> 01:10:26,040
Speaker 3: In New York, you know what I'm saying.

1425
01:10:26,040 --> 01:10:27,840
Speaker 4: We used to say, Man, you say, man, your hat

1426
01:10:27,960 --> 01:10:30,080
Speaker 4: drunk when you just throw it on any kind of way, Man,

1427
01:10:30,120 --> 01:10:32,320
Speaker 4: you ain't drunk the hat. So I just got the

1428
01:10:32,439 --> 01:10:36,880
Speaker 4: hat on just like look very it's very ghost face

1429
01:10:36,960 --> 01:10:38,880
Speaker 4: killed love you, man, I love ghost Face.

1430
01:10:39,120 --> 01:10:39,559
Speaker 2: I love.

1431
01:10:41,360 --> 01:10:44,479
Speaker 1: Yeah, but no, I was saying, like last year had

1432
01:10:44,479 --> 01:10:47,120
Speaker 1: at best felt I never forget Shaka Bars. You had

1433
01:10:47,439 --> 01:10:49,000
Speaker 1: you told him to come over to the club, so

1434
01:10:49,560 --> 01:10:52,200
Speaker 1: you had, you had, you had dinner with Chaka Bars

1435
01:10:52,200 --> 01:10:54,439
Speaker 1: and your strip club. That sums it all up right

1436
01:10:54,560 --> 01:10:58,240
Speaker 1: like that, that sums up to alcoholics.

1437
01:10:59,280 --> 01:11:02,360
Speaker 4: This is why he he know this why tripped. He says,

1438
01:11:02,360 --> 01:11:05,519
Speaker 4: your you're brethren. You know you know so and so

1439
01:11:05,600 --> 01:11:07,280
Speaker 4: and so so. I know you know, I know he's vegan.

1440
01:11:07,360 --> 01:11:10,080
Speaker 4: I got the vegan pizza restaurant around in a Lima,

1441
01:11:10,439 --> 01:11:13,120
Speaker 4: so I said, he man, go trump a vegan pizza spot.

1442
01:11:13,200 --> 01:11:14,599
Speaker 2: Man, Okay, he go.

1443
01:11:15,400 --> 01:11:18,600
Speaker 4: I not already called and order him a piza, but

1444
01:11:18,680 --> 01:11:20,559
Speaker 4: he going there and just order his own. So now

1445
01:11:20,600 --> 01:11:24,400
Speaker 4: he got too much pizza. And I'm like, you know,

1446
01:11:24,439 --> 01:11:26,120
Speaker 4: you're so. He said, I got this piece for you.

1447
01:11:26,160 --> 01:11:28,120
Speaker 4: I'm like, no, this is for you. So now you

1448
01:11:28,200 --> 01:11:30,280
Speaker 4: got this piece. Then he meets me at my strip

1449
01:11:30,360 --> 01:11:32,840
Speaker 4: club and you know, he's like, no, you know I

1450
01:11:32,840 --> 01:11:36,759
Speaker 4: don't drink. You know, I say, get the man some water.

1451
01:11:36,840 --> 01:11:40,960
Speaker 4: The man trip out because it's akaline water. He's doun

1452
01:11:41,200 --> 01:11:45,560
Speaker 4: no dancers, no nothing, no dj no i'mbient.

1453
01:11:45,880 --> 01:11:46,519
Speaker 3: No, Paul.

1454
01:11:46,880 --> 01:11:49,599
Speaker 4: This man said, Yo, Virgin, you got alk line water

1455
01:11:49,640 --> 01:11:51,960
Speaker 4: in the strip club. I've never seen this. This man

1456
01:11:52,000 --> 01:11:55,080
Speaker 4: has acholine water. This man did a drop with me video.

1457
01:11:55,200 --> 01:11:56,880
Speaker 4: That man do a drop with me at the club.

1458
01:11:56,920 --> 01:11:59,720
Speaker 4: Hey man, this man come to this club. This man

1459
01:11:59,760 --> 01:12:03,960
Speaker 4: got alkaline water. I kind of know the benefits, but

1460
01:12:04,120 --> 01:12:05,840
Speaker 4: I mean the way he was acting.

1461
01:12:06,080 --> 01:12:07,519
Speaker 3: No more reasons you should show up.

1462
01:12:07,640 --> 01:12:11,400
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's the Alkalie in Candyland and she come through.

1463
01:12:11,439 --> 01:12:12,479
Speaker 4: We got akaline one.

1464
01:12:12,439 --> 01:12:15,439
Speaker 1: Day in the life. Well, congratulations, my brother. Get the

1465
01:12:15,479 --> 01:12:18,040
Speaker 1: book is out out now. And now it's out now

1466
01:12:18,400 --> 01:12:21,320
Speaker 1: Barns and Nobles, and you can go to two Chains

1467
01:12:21,400 --> 01:12:24,040
Speaker 1: book dot com as well. Yeah, enter for the sweep

1468
01:12:24,080 --> 01:12:27,040
Speaker 1: stakes I have for people to actually sit courtside with

1469
01:12:27,080 --> 01:12:29,000
Speaker 1: me at a Harts game. I think I'm gonna be

1470
01:12:29,040 --> 01:12:33,200
Speaker 1: running this sweep stakes up till maybe about March eleventh.

1471
01:12:33,240 --> 01:12:36,599
Speaker 1: But you go to two chainsbook dot com. I'm taking

1472
01:12:36,600 --> 01:12:38,599
Speaker 1: care of the rooms. If I have to fly you

1473
01:12:38,640 --> 01:12:41,000
Speaker 1: in and all that stuff. One lucky person gets to

1474
01:12:41,040 --> 01:12:44,240
Speaker 1: sit next to me. All this drip, all this demean

1475
01:12:44,320 --> 01:12:47,040
Speaker 1: not at all all this aura. You know what I'm saying.

1476
01:12:47,160 --> 01:12:49,720
Speaker 1: And as I have a disclaimer that I put on

1477
01:12:49,760 --> 01:12:51,080
Speaker 1: every platform that I've been on.

1478
01:12:52,080 --> 01:12:52,479
Speaker 2: Mm hmm.

1479
01:12:54,040 --> 01:13:00,519
Speaker 4: If you are a female and you have a a

1480
01:13:00,760 --> 01:13:05,360
Speaker 4: different situation at home, a situation that is going through

1481
01:13:05,400 --> 01:13:09,720
Speaker 4: whatever turmoil, or you know you have trust issues at home,

1482
01:13:10,880 --> 01:13:13,960
Speaker 4: just know that to tell your significant other that do

1483
01:13:14,000 --> 01:13:16,920
Speaker 4: you're just supporting your supporting me, You're supporting the book,

1484
01:13:18,040 --> 01:13:20,320
Speaker 4: nothing more and nothing less. If you are a man,

1485
01:13:21,200 --> 01:13:24,040
Speaker 4: if you come to this game with me, I love

1486
01:13:24,080 --> 01:13:27,400
Speaker 4: the fact that you are a fan. But if we

1487
01:13:27,439 --> 01:13:33,320
Speaker 4: could talk during timeouts and have time, that'll be cool,

1488
01:13:33,320 --> 01:13:36,479
Speaker 4: because I really be watching the game. If you want

1489
01:13:36,479 --> 01:13:38,720
Speaker 4: to talk during the game, I'm not gonna be mad

1490
01:13:38,760 --> 01:13:40,160
Speaker 4: at that, but I just want to let you know

1491
01:13:40,200 --> 01:13:42,760
Speaker 4: how sometimes I'll just be locked in and it may

1492
01:13:42,800 --> 01:13:44,639
Speaker 4: seem like I'm ignoring you. But for the most part,

1493
01:13:44,760 --> 01:13:47,760
Speaker 4: is for any lucky fan that wants to go through

1494
01:13:47,760 --> 01:13:49,360
Speaker 4: the Owners, I have different experiences.

1495
01:13:49,400 --> 01:13:51,120
Speaker 2: I go to the owner, the.

1496
01:13:51,040 --> 01:13:54,400
Speaker 4: Where I park, where I park at across from it

1497
01:13:54,479 --> 01:13:59,600
Speaker 4: says owners right there, and then I walk through a

1498
01:13:59,640 --> 01:14:02,800
Speaker 4: door and then there's another lounge, not the lounge where

1499
01:14:02,920 --> 01:14:03,599
Speaker 4: you got to have.

1500
01:14:03,680 --> 01:14:06,439
Speaker 3: A little bit the little thing I say, you got

1501
01:14:06,520 --> 01:14:07,200
Speaker 3: that little band?

1502
01:14:07,479 --> 01:14:09,720
Speaker 4: You see a lot of them doing this in the

1503
01:14:09,760 --> 01:14:13,400
Speaker 4: car breaking own you know break. So it's just I'm

1504
01:14:13,400 --> 01:14:17,960
Speaker 4: offering someone an experience own this lounge to change. I'm

1505
01:14:18,000 --> 01:14:19,559
Speaker 4: not sure if you should ride with me or not.

1506
01:14:19,640 --> 01:14:22,880
Speaker 4: I gotta figure that out, but just being next to me,

1507
01:14:23,080 --> 01:14:24,920
Speaker 4: it's a great experience for a game.

1508
01:14:26,240 --> 01:14:26,679
Speaker 2: Halftime.

1509
01:14:26,720 --> 01:14:28,760
Speaker 4: We can run off why I did this song, who

1510
01:14:28,760 --> 01:14:30,920
Speaker 4: I did this song, why I think this person, whatever,

1511
01:14:31,400 --> 01:14:33,240
Speaker 4: But for the most part, you know. Once again, and

1512
01:14:33,280 --> 01:14:36,439
Speaker 4: go to two chainsbook dot com. Make sure you check

1513
01:14:36,479 --> 01:14:38,479
Speaker 4: out my new book, The Voice in My Head is

1514
01:14:38,520 --> 01:14:42,320
Speaker 4: God on all platforms. The audiobook is dope too. And

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Speaker 4: once again, thank thank my boys right here, earn your

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Speaker 4: leisure for allowing me to get on here and promote

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Speaker 4: and market my projects.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, appreciate it.

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Speaker 3: Go to go to Barns and Nobles, go to Amazaga,

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Speaker 3: go to as many outlets as you can. We need diversity.

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Speaker 3: This is how we make sure that it's showing that

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Speaker 3: it's crossing different demographics. And we're gonna have you at

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Speaker 3: number one.

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Speaker 1: And the last thing is who would be the ideal

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Speaker 1: person to read this book?

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Speaker 2: That's a good one, I think. Okay, what voice I

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Speaker 2: here reading them on?

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Speaker 4: You mean to read it, like, who should read the book?

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Speaker 4: Who should read the book?

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Speaker 2: Oh, man, I think the person that good one.

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Speaker 4: If you have ever said something told me, I think

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Speaker 4: you should read the book. Let me see the book.

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Speaker 2: If you If you have.

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Speaker 4: Ever said something mm hmmm fire. Something told me to

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Speaker 4: watch this episode. Something told me to go balenci book.

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Speaker 4: Something told me to wear a silk pajamas and public.

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Speaker 4: Something told something told something told you not to do

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Speaker 4: it again. Whatever that is, this book is for you.

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Speaker 4: We're gonna try to find out what that's something. We're

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Speaker 4: gonna tap into it.

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Speaker 1: There you have it. Make sure y'all check it out. Man,

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Speaker 1: Thank you, My brother appreciate it. Thank you man, Yes,

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Speaker 1: sir yea