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Speaker 1: up today. The Around the NFL Podcast always goes for

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Speaker 1: it on four than one. Welcome back to another edition

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Speaker 1: Oh what a weekend we got. We're treated to a

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Speaker 1: gonna go down whether they lose this next game or not,

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Speaker 1: as one of the best Brady moments for me, it

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Speaker 1: has to. That was. I thought that was one of

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Speaker 1: the best games I've seen ever and definitely the best

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Speaker 1: game I've seen in the past couple of years. Seventies

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Speaker 1: seventy four yards, ten plays and capping it with that

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Speaker 1: throw to LaFell, which was just I mean, you texted me,

436
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Speaker 1: you said that throw was God. That was God like,

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00:20:44,640 --> 00:20:47,600
Speaker 1: that was that was the And we talked at the

438
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Speaker 1: mont Creep throw from Luck last week. To me, the

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00:20:50,400 --> 00:20:53,280
Speaker 1: Brady game winner was the best throw I've seen, uh

440
00:20:53,359 --> 00:20:55,560
Speaker 1: in the playoffs so far, and it was just it

441
00:20:55,680 --> 00:20:58,560
Speaker 1: was perfect and the guy just came to play. I

442
00:20:58,640 --> 00:21:01,680
Speaker 1: hate him, and they haven't had a game like this

443
00:21:01,880 --> 00:21:04,960
Speaker 1: is the biggest comeback in playoff history and in the

444
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Speaker 1: if you look over all their wins over the last

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Speaker 1: ten years, so the only one that could come up

446
00:21:09,000 --> 00:21:11,680
Speaker 1: with that was close was two thousand after the two

447
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Speaker 1: thousand sixth season when they go to San Diego and win.

448
00:21:14,760 --> 00:21:18,200
Speaker 1: That's always been my number one favorite, non like Super

449
00:21:18,280 --> 00:21:20,600
Speaker 1: Bowl win by the Patriots or Super Bowl season that

450
00:21:20,720 --> 00:21:23,000
Speaker 1: was incredible and this this is similar. And that's why

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00:21:23,160 --> 00:21:25,320
Speaker 1: as a fan, I'm at least gonna be over confident

452
00:21:25,359 --> 00:21:26,680
Speaker 1: now because I think if you get a game like

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Speaker 1: this out of the way early where you're totally tested,

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Speaker 1: that this team should feel like they can win in

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Speaker 1: any circumstances. One thing that will be overshadow because the

456
00:21:34,960 --> 00:21:38,000
Speaker 1: Ravens lost. I think this could have been a fourth

457
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Speaker 1: down revolution in the NFL. Jim Harbor and Gary Kubia

458
00:21:42,000 --> 00:21:44,840
Speaker 1: go for it three times on fourth Down Show, huge onions,

459
00:21:45,160 --> 00:21:49,359
Speaker 1: convert all three and I feel like basically exposed a

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Speaker 1: lot of conservative coaches as doing things the wrong way.

461
00:21:52,520 --> 00:21:54,879
Speaker 1: And I think this it will get swept under the

462
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Speaker 1: rug now, but that would have gained a lot more

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Speaker 1: attentions of the Ravens Ravens one, and I think a

464
00:21:58,840 --> 00:22:01,040
Speaker 1: lot of coaches would have said it's smart to go.

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Speaker 1: It's funny you say that too, because you you often

466
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Speaker 1: hear the announcers in these playoff games say the same thing.

467
00:22:06,840 --> 00:22:09,240
Speaker 1: It's like, hey, man, playoffs, go big or go home.

468
00:22:09,600 --> 00:22:11,399
Speaker 1: But like, just because of the playoffs doesn't mean that

469
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Speaker 1: you should be going for in the fourth down, and

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Speaker 1: you wouldn't been going for it in October they I

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Speaker 1: think these teams should always have that outlook. Yeah, there's

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Speaker 1: that sentiment from announcers. And then on the other hand,

473
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Speaker 1: there's Phil Sims who wants you to punt every time.

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Speaker 1: And I heard a lot of I heard some criticism

475
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Speaker 1: after the game, really everywhere a flak oak kind of

476
00:22:29,080 --> 00:22:31,960
Speaker 1: going for it on that touchdown, I mean, on the

477
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Speaker 1: on the last interception, which you know in the end

478
00:22:34,920 --> 00:22:37,520
Speaker 1: wasn't a good throw, was a nice defensive play that

479
00:22:37,720 --> 00:22:39,920
Speaker 1: he should have, you know, kept going underneath, not go

480
00:22:40,119 --> 00:22:42,960
Speaker 1: for the big play right there. I'm thinking, have you

481
00:22:43,119 --> 00:22:45,720
Speaker 1: watched this guy? Are you kidding me? That's why he's

482
00:22:45,760 --> 00:22:49,600
Speaker 1: here is because he's made those throws and yes he's

483
00:22:49,600 --> 00:22:52,000
Speaker 1: gonna go for it, and he got beat that play.

484
00:22:52,119 --> 00:22:54,520
Speaker 1: But he had a great game overall. He did. From

485
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Speaker 1: West's excellent wrap up piece from Saturday, he writes, at

486
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Speaker 1: the Patriots a band didn't the run like there like

487
00:23:01,760 --> 00:23:04,960
Speaker 1: a derrelic shack in an overgrown forest? Do you have

488
00:23:05,080 --> 00:23:09,080
Speaker 1: to pay cessler royalties for a forest reference? A lot

489
00:23:09,119 --> 00:23:10,840
Speaker 1: of people asked me. I got at least six or

490
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Speaker 1: seven comments on Twitter asking if Sessler ghost wrote that

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00:23:14,160 --> 00:23:16,719
Speaker 1: for me. That's awesome. T D. How are we doing

492
00:23:16,760 --> 00:23:21,600
Speaker 1: with my forest sound drop? So good? I feel like

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00:23:21,640 --> 00:23:23,520
Speaker 1: this would have been a good spot for it, you know,

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Speaker 1: any other takeaways? Was game? Greg? I just I'm curious.

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Speaker 1: Did you get any tweets about what was going on

496
00:23:29,480 --> 00:23:33,600
Speaker 1: in your pants situation? Underpants? Oh my gosh, enough listeners

497
00:23:33,720 --> 00:23:37,960
Speaker 1: with the pe tweets, And it's really Dan's fault, first

498
00:23:38,000 --> 00:23:40,919
Speaker 1: of all, totally my fault. Yeah, it's you fought. You're right,

499
00:23:40,920 --> 00:23:44,639
Speaker 1: but you shouldn't be sending them every anyway. About thirty

500
00:23:44,760 --> 00:23:48,840
Speaker 1: five p tweets? What's the pemeter? A lot of dribble comments.

501
00:23:49,080 --> 00:23:51,400
Speaker 1: It was like all the while, and when you're down,

502
00:23:51,680 --> 00:23:55,080
Speaker 1: when they're Downeen, I'm it's not as amusing as you

503
00:23:55,080 --> 00:23:59,840
Speaker 1: would think it is. West was the cross room, but

504
00:23:59,840 --> 00:24:02,920
Speaker 1: I was pretty calm relatively. Someone asked where was Greg

505
00:24:03,040 --> 00:24:05,440
Speaker 1: on the quiet storm meter? And I you know, basically

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00:24:05,600 --> 00:24:08,120
Speaker 1: Gregg was uncomfortable, you could tell, but he was. He's

507
00:24:08,119 --> 00:24:12,040
Speaker 1: not intense like the quiet storm is. Greg does not.

508
00:24:12,359 --> 00:24:15,680
Speaker 1: There is no quiet storm with Greg. There is. There's

509
00:24:15,720 --> 00:24:19,080
Speaker 1: a storm within, but it's not that's neither quiet nor loud.

510
00:24:19,160 --> 00:24:21,159
Speaker 1: It's just something that's just bubbling out. You could feel it.

511
00:24:21,240 --> 00:24:23,600
Speaker 1: Part of it is that Greg's not quite as fanatical

512
00:24:24,280 --> 00:24:27,280
Speaker 1: of a Patriots followers he was back in the day. Well, yeah,

513
00:24:27,320 --> 00:24:30,560
Speaker 1: that's what he says. During this game, I was saying

514
00:24:31,000 --> 00:24:33,639
Speaker 1: that I'm tired of being a fan at all, almost

515
00:24:33,720 --> 00:24:36,280
Speaker 1: like I don't like giving over. It's been such a

516
00:24:36,400 --> 00:24:38,919
Speaker 1: hard dosing years for you following the page just wait

517
00:24:39,000 --> 00:24:41,119
Speaker 1: until Tommy was done. That's not even what I mean.

518
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Speaker 1: It's just like I enjoy football like that. Love has

519
00:24:45,320 --> 00:24:48,600
Speaker 1: only grown as I've been reading. I don't need these

520
00:24:48,720 --> 00:24:53,960
Speaker 1: crazy ye who needs it? D say the same thing,

521
00:24:54,040 --> 00:24:56,520
Speaker 1: by the way, that he's been hurt too much. I

522
00:24:56,600 --> 00:24:59,320
Speaker 1: do look forward to the day where there's three agnostics

523
00:24:59,400 --> 00:25:01,080
Speaker 1: in me, just like for the pure love of the

524
00:25:01,119 --> 00:25:03,919
Speaker 1: game as a team anymore, I could see Gregg come

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Speaker 1: into the dark side. I don't think there will ever

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Speaker 1: be a day when Mark Yeah, I don't. By the way,

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Speaker 1: one final point, and this is totally off topic, but

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Speaker 1: we've taken a lot of heat from ourselves on the

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Speaker 1: making the leap. Okay, okay, Jamie collins and the Monster.

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Speaker 1: Not only has he made the leap, Chris Collinsworth said

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Speaker 1: he thinks he could be the best player in the NFL,

532
00:25:23,400 --> 00:25:26,879
Speaker 1: which seems outrageous. That's when I said collins Worth was

533
00:25:26,920 --> 00:25:29,440
Speaker 1: floating away like a helium, but he was. He was

534
00:25:29,600 --> 00:25:31,400
Speaker 1: monsters in this game and he's a lot of fun

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00:25:31,960 --> 00:25:34,159
Speaker 1: to watch, and to see him show up there it

536
00:25:34,240 --> 00:25:36,359
Speaker 1: made me happy. As bad as that list was, we

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00:25:36,440 --> 00:25:38,880
Speaker 1: had Levan Bell and Jamie collins in the top five

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Speaker 1: and those are two of the best people you could

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Speaker 1: have picked. Honestly, I feel like I should say that

540
00:25:43,280 --> 00:25:47,239
Speaker 1: we shouldn't bring up the list though. Honestly, if there

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00:25:47,280 --> 00:25:49,359
Speaker 1: have not seen the list, we only ranked five players.

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Speaker 1: Is it making the leap list back in greg Yeah,

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00:25:56,560 --> 00:25:59,119
Speaker 1: we're gonna keep doing it. If Mark was here, he

544
00:25:59,160 --> 00:26:01,560
Speaker 1: would be firing away his opinion on it and it

545
00:26:01,600 --> 00:26:05,560
Speaker 1: would be uh in direct opposition. But anyway, that is it.

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00:26:05,680 --> 00:26:07,080
Speaker 1: That's the a f C side of things. So we

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00:26:07,160 --> 00:26:11,320
Speaker 1: get the Patriots and the Colts on Sunday afternoon in Foxboro.

548
00:26:11,480 --> 00:26:14,520
Speaker 1: That will be fun. Let's move to the NFC and

549
00:26:14,680 --> 00:26:18,800
Speaker 1: we'll start in Green Bay, Wisconsin lambeau Field, where the

550
00:26:18,840 --> 00:26:20,880
Speaker 1: Cowboys had their chance to get back to the NFC

551
00:26:21,040 --> 00:26:23,800
Speaker 1: title game for the first time in ages, and for

552
00:26:23,800 --> 00:26:25,320
Speaker 1: a while it looked like they might do it. They

553
00:26:25,400 --> 00:26:28,280
Speaker 1: jumped out ahead, but ultimately it was the green Bay

554
00:26:28,320 --> 00:26:31,080
Speaker 1: Packers day. They rallied back from an eleven point deficit.

555
00:26:31,440 --> 00:26:34,239
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers on that bum calf still delivered through two

556
00:26:34,280 --> 00:26:37,280
Speaker 1: fourth quarter touchdowns, and then of course the big play

557
00:26:37,320 --> 00:26:38,720
Speaker 1: of the game. They'll be talking about. It will be

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00:26:38,800 --> 00:26:41,280
Speaker 1: how this game is remembered, unfortunately, because it was a

559
00:26:41,320 --> 00:26:44,359
Speaker 1: great game. But this is the play Dez Bryant thirty

560
00:26:44,400 --> 00:26:47,240
Speaker 1: one yard reception to the one yard line under five

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00:26:47,280 --> 00:26:49,840
Speaker 1: minutes of play, which would have given the Cowboys first

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00:26:49,880 --> 00:26:52,000
Speaker 1: and goal with a chance to take the lead. The

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00:26:52,080 --> 00:26:55,600
Speaker 1: flag is thrown by Mike McCarthy. The play is overruled

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00:26:56,000 --> 00:26:58,600
Speaker 1: uh in accordance with the NFL rulebook. It was not

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Speaker 1: a catch, even though it looked like to the to

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00:27:00,840 --> 00:27:03,800
Speaker 1: the layman that it was a catch. Green Bay salts

567
00:27:03,840 --> 00:27:07,520
Speaker 1: the game away and that's green Bay. Packers move on

568
00:27:07,680 --> 00:27:09,680
Speaker 1: to Seattle in the n FC title game and the

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Speaker 1: Cowboys go home and excruciating fashion. Greg does God hate

570
00:27:16,200 --> 00:27:18,480
Speaker 1: the football? Gods hate Tony Romo? What does this guy

571
00:27:18,800 --> 00:27:22,000
Speaker 1: gotta do to get a break? I mean, one of

572
00:27:22,040 --> 00:27:25,200
Speaker 1: the greatest moments of his career, one of a great

573
00:27:25,280 --> 00:27:29,200
Speaker 1: performance in Green Bay fifteen for nineteen over ten yards

574
00:27:29,280 --> 00:27:32,320
Speaker 1: per throw. He goes for it on the fourth down,

575
00:27:32,520 --> 00:27:35,000
Speaker 1: makes a great throw. Bryant makes just as good a catch,

576
00:27:35,560 --> 00:27:38,240
Speaker 1: and they overturn it and he never gets the ball back.

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00:27:38,440 --> 00:27:41,040
Speaker 1: I think what's overlooked in that whole ending sequence that

578
00:27:41,280 --> 00:27:43,679
Speaker 1: was the fact that the game ended on a tipped

579
00:27:43,800 --> 00:27:47,360
Speaker 1: pass throw from Rogers that ended up a first down.

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00:27:47,440 --> 00:27:50,600
Speaker 1: If that thing hits the ground, the Cowboys get the

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00:27:50,600 --> 00:27:52,960
Speaker 1: ball back with the chance to either tie the game,

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Speaker 1: or maybe Crosby misses the field goal, maybe they punt

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00:27:55,800 --> 00:27:57,119
Speaker 1: it and maybe it's to go win the game. I

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00:27:57,119 --> 00:28:00,040
Speaker 1: would have loved to seen that we were robbed of

585
00:28:00,080 --> 00:28:04,280
Speaker 1: a career defining catch, a great ending to a game potentially,

586
00:28:04,960 --> 00:28:06,880
Speaker 1: and one of the best play of playoff moments we've

587
00:28:06,920 --> 00:28:10,280
Speaker 1: ever seen by a convoluted rule. And as much as

588
00:28:10,359 --> 00:28:14,439
Speaker 1: Adam Carola and Greg Rosenthal, Greg's in the room too,

589
00:28:14,520 --> 00:28:16,399
Speaker 1: is so you know it's gonna be work. For years

590
00:28:16,760 --> 00:28:20,600
Speaker 1: railed against the uprights thing. This has been my I've

591
00:28:20,600 --> 00:28:23,520
Speaker 1: been tilting that windmills on on the convoluted catch role

592
00:28:24,000 --> 00:28:27,840
Speaker 1: for years. It makes no sense. Nobody understands it. All

593
00:28:27,920 --> 00:28:31,200
Speaker 1: of the major networks employ a person to explain this

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00:28:31,359 --> 00:28:35,000
Speaker 1: stupid rule to fans because the NFL can't figure it

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00:28:35,080 --> 00:28:37,000
Speaker 1: out what it is. Somebody asked might Carry at one

596
00:28:37,000 --> 00:28:39,680
Speaker 1: point to explain the rule. In his head exploded literally

597
00:28:39,760 --> 00:28:41,800
Speaker 1: like Carry is no longer with us, but no Mike.

598
00:28:42,200 --> 00:28:44,920
Speaker 1: Mike Carrera, who is actually good at that job, tried

599
00:28:44,960 --> 00:28:46,880
Speaker 1: to explain it on Fox and he and he and

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00:28:47,240 --> 00:28:49,200
Speaker 1: that's the thing. That's what's so annoying about the calls,

601
00:28:49,200 --> 00:28:51,120
Speaker 1: which was is saying, is like they got the call right,

602
00:28:51,560 --> 00:28:56,320
Speaker 1: but the rules and and I criticized it because all sincerity,

603
00:28:56,840 --> 00:28:59,000
Speaker 1: the NFL runs a better sport than any league in

604
00:28:59,040 --> 00:29:01,360
Speaker 1: America by far, and one of the reasons is because

605
00:29:01,440 --> 00:29:04,560
Speaker 1: when a rule doesn't work, they fix it. They want

606
00:29:04,640 --> 00:29:07,200
Speaker 1: the game to be as entertaining as possible for the fans,

607
00:29:07,480 --> 00:29:09,560
Speaker 1: and they robbed the fans of entertainment in this game.

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00:29:09,760 --> 00:29:12,920
Speaker 1: It really hit me watching the halftime show of the

609
00:29:13,080 --> 00:29:19,040
Speaker 1: Broncos Colt Scheme that the entire halftime show was rules

610
00:29:19,840 --> 00:29:25,120
Speaker 1: mumbo jumbo. Trying to listen to Bart Scott explained some convolterally,

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00:29:25,600 --> 00:29:27,760
Speaker 1: he can't do it. I can't do it, you can't

612
00:29:27,760 --> 00:29:29,880
Speaker 1: do it. And then I think the NFL has to

613
00:29:29,960 --> 00:29:31,800
Speaker 1: look at. Is this what we want to be talking

614
00:29:31,880 --> 00:29:36,000
Speaker 1: about After the biggest moment of Tony Romo's career, after

615
00:29:36,320 --> 00:29:40,040
Speaker 1: a heroic performance by Aaron Rodgers, a great game between

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Speaker 1: two franchises, and we're spending the whole halftime trying to

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00:29:43,520 --> 00:29:46,360
Speaker 1: figure out a rule that the average fan can't and

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00:29:46,440 --> 00:29:49,520
Speaker 1: that the officials can't really because they seem like they

619
00:29:49,640 --> 00:29:52,960
Speaker 1: disagree depending on the week. I agree it's it's not

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00:29:53,120 --> 00:29:55,960
Speaker 1: called consistently at all, and nobody knows what a football

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Speaker 1: move is at all, even if that was applicable to

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00:29:58,280 --> 00:30:00,880
Speaker 1: this situation. The rules are too convoluted. They need to

623
00:30:00,920 --> 00:30:02,800
Speaker 1: be more basic. Even if if it is he had

624
00:30:02,880 --> 00:30:04,640
Speaker 1: to make some type of football move or whatever the

625
00:30:05,160 --> 00:30:08,000
Speaker 1: archaic wording they're using, he was reaching for the pylon,

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00:30:08,120 --> 00:30:10,400
Speaker 1: that's a catch and then the football move trius is crazy.

627
00:30:10,480 --> 00:30:12,720
Speaker 1: But let's talk more about the game and get off that,

628
00:30:13,120 --> 00:30:15,479
Speaker 1: because it was it was a really good game. I know, Wes,

629
00:30:15,600 --> 00:30:18,240
Speaker 1: you disagreed, you thought it was a little short because

630
00:30:18,240 --> 00:30:21,080
Speaker 1: the first half I thought was incredibly boring. Because Aaron

631
00:30:21,200 --> 00:30:23,520
Speaker 1: Rodgers and and I tweeted about this earlier in the game.

632
00:30:24,320 --> 00:30:26,560
Speaker 1: Once we saw that he really and we all suspected

633
00:30:26,640 --> 00:30:28,200
Speaker 1: this could be the case that he would have trouble

634
00:30:28,240 --> 00:30:30,920
Speaker 1: moving in the pocket and escaping the rush once it

635
00:30:31,120 --> 00:30:33,280
Speaker 1: became clear that he wasn't going to be able to

636
00:30:33,320 --> 00:30:35,120
Speaker 1: move around too much and he needed that line to

637
00:30:35,200 --> 00:30:37,440
Speaker 1: hold up. This game was anybody's game. There was no

638
00:30:37,600 --> 00:30:40,760
Speaker 1: longer a favorite in the building, and it just a

639
00:30:40,880 --> 00:30:42,680
Speaker 1: testament to him that he was able to adapt the

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00:30:42,680 --> 00:30:44,680
Speaker 1: way he did and deliver such a great performance in

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Speaker 1: the second half. Looking at the box score, you would

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Speaker 1: never know he was injured. Sixteen yards and three touchdowns

643
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Speaker 1: on thirty five throws, you would have never known. And

644
00:30:55,200 --> 00:30:58,880
Speaker 1: yet he was totally diminished because he completed his last

645
00:30:58,920 --> 00:31:01,680
Speaker 1: ten passes for a hundred sixties something yards and two touchdowns.

646
00:31:02,400 --> 00:31:04,360
Speaker 1: Every single one of those was a completion. He caught

647
00:31:04,400 --> 00:31:06,440
Speaker 1: fire in the second half, and to give Jerry Jones

648
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Speaker 1: credit when he talked about that, he thought it was

649
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Speaker 1: a catch. He he was talking about, you know, he

650
00:31:11,360 --> 00:31:14,160
Speaker 1: was worried about his defense. That can our defense stop

651
00:31:14,280 --> 00:31:17,000
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers and hold onto this lead that we're about

652
00:31:17,040 --> 00:31:19,440
Speaker 1: to get, and that that is the right thinking, because

653
00:31:19,760 --> 00:31:21,800
Speaker 1: you know Dez Bryant makes that catch, than they go

654
00:31:21,880 --> 00:31:24,240
Speaker 1: in and score the touchdown. I have no confidence that

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00:31:24,320 --> 00:31:26,440
Speaker 1: the Cowboys are gonna be able to stop. Obviously, we

656
00:31:26,480 --> 00:31:28,640
Speaker 1: would have liked to seen it and the whole game changes.

657
00:31:29,000 --> 00:31:32,360
Speaker 1: But I think the Packers in the end, their offense

658
00:31:32,480 --> 00:31:34,640
Speaker 1: was the best group on the field. They were the

659
00:31:34,720 --> 00:31:37,880
Speaker 1: better offense overall than Dallas. I think Rogers was a

660
00:31:37,960 --> 00:31:41,240
Speaker 1: different player in the second half. Beyond just escaping the pocket.

661
00:31:41,560 --> 00:31:43,640
Speaker 1: He wasn't getting his legs into his throws and he

662
00:31:43,760 --> 00:31:46,360
Speaker 1: was missing way more throws than you ever see Aaron

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00:31:46,440 --> 00:31:48,480
Speaker 1: Rodgers miss. And then the second half it seemed like

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Speaker 1: he ironed that out, got his legs back into his

665
00:31:50,960 --> 00:31:53,920
Speaker 1: throwing motion. And I still feel like this has to

666
00:31:54,000 --> 00:31:57,040
Speaker 1: be a concern going into the NFC Championship game against

667
00:31:57,080 --> 00:31:59,640
Speaker 1: the NFL's best defense. You've got a quarterback who was

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00:31:59,680 --> 00:32:02,640
Speaker 1: hobbed for most of the game. There were a lot

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00:32:02,640 --> 00:32:05,160
Speaker 1: of unforced there is early to Nelson had a drop.

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00:32:05,920 --> 00:32:08,960
Speaker 1: You know, the Packers had that big penalty. By laying

671
00:32:09,120 --> 00:32:11,720
Speaker 1: that that took I could have taken points off the board.

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Speaker 1: So it was it wasn't like the cleanest game in

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00:32:14,680 --> 00:32:16,960
Speaker 1: the world. Rogers could have gotten a little more help.

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00:32:17,280 --> 00:32:21,000
Speaker 1: I believe, especially earlier, but yeah, it cannot be forgotten

675
00:32:21,440 --> 00:32:24,640
Speaker 1: how in in command Dallas appeared to be at one

676
00:32:24,680 --> 00:32:28,360
Speaker 1: point in this game after DeMarco Murray's touched night, I

677
00:32:28,480 --> 00:32:31,680
Speaker 1: got in my car to drive to the office in

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00:32:32,360 --> 00:32:34,480
Speaker 1: right as the Marcot Murray scored a touchdown, and I

679
00:32:34,680 --> 00:32:37,400
Speaker 1: had my radio on Sirius, which gives you the option

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00:32:37,480 --> 00:32:40,080
Speaker 1: of listening to the local radio broadcast, so I had

681
00:32:40,160 --> 00:32:43,600
Speaker 1: the Green Bay radio broadcast on, and these guys that

682
00:32:43,680 --> 00:32:45,280
Speaker 1: you it sound like a funeral the way the guys

683
00:32:45,320 --> 00:32:47,360
Speaker 1: are calling the game. And he even said, even though

684
00:32:47,480 --> 00:32:50,160
Speaker 1: this game is just one score, it feels like the

685
00:32:50,240 --> 00:32:53,280
Speaker 1: Cowboys are in total control. And it just did. That

686
00:32:53,400 --> 00:32:55,560
Speaker 1: was a little bit you know, home fan or home

687
00:32:55,840 --> 00:32:58,240
Speaker 1: broadcast leaning there, and they were a little doom and gloom.

688
00:32:58,280 --> 00:33:00,840
Speaker 1: But really this was the Cowboys game. They they should

689
00:33:00,880 --> 00:33:03,160
Speaker 1: have won this game, and and they got robbed I

690
00:33:03,240 --> 00:33:06,000
Speaker 1: thought by the call and Brian, But ultimately that's not

691
00:33:06,080 --> 00:33:07,520
Speaker 1: the only reason they lost this game, just like it

692
00:33:07,560 --> 00:33:09,880
Speaker 1: wasn't the only reason the Lions lost last week. Well,

693
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Speaker 1: I think you can't overstate how injured Rogers looked for

694
00:33:14,240 --> 00:33:16,320
Speaker 1: two and a half quarters. We we were in the

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00:33:16,360 --> 00:33:18,560
Speaker 1: newsroom and I said It's like Andy Dalton's quarterback in

696
00:33:18,600 --> 00:33:21,000
Speaker 1: the Packers right now, you couldn't count on any Aaron

697
00:33:21,120 --> 00:33:23,960
Speaker 1: Rodgers to make plays for two and a half quarters. Well,

698
00:33:24,400 --> 00:33:26,880
Speaker 1: you also have to remember when they fall down eight

699
00:33:26,960 --> 00:33:30,040
Speaker 1: in the Packers. You know, broadcast is so worried about

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00:33:30,320 --> 00:33:33,320
Speaker 1: what does Aaron Rodgers do. He does a ninety yard

701
00:33:33,880 --> 00:33:37,440
Speaker 1: touchdown drive in less than three minutes, very similar to

702
00:33:37,600 --> 00:33:40,720
Speaker 1: the type of responses that Brady had. So that's the

703
00:33:40,920 --> 00:33:42,680
Speaker 1: m v P of the league and your best players

704
00:33:42,680 --> 00:33:45,080
Speaker 1: stepping up. They had two third downs on that drive.

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00:33:45,400 --> 00:33:47,800
Speaker 1: Early on, they had a third, third and three at

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Speaker 1: the their own seventeen. I mean, they're almost punting, giving

707
00:33:51,080 --> 00:33:54,720
Speaker 1: the Cowboys field position there down eight, but he hits

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00:33:54,760 --> 00:33:57,000
Speaker 1: the third down to Davante Adams, who was huge in

709
00:33:57,080 --> 00:33:59,280
Speaker 1: that game, and then he hits the forty six yard

710
00:33:59,360 --> 00:34:03,800
Speaker 1: touchdown on third and fifteen. So the Cowboys, who really

711
00:34:03,840 --> 00:34:06,680
Speaker 1: played pretty good coverage most of the day. Orlando Scandrick

712
00:34:06,760 --> 00:34:09,480
Speaker 1: was on Cobb and Brandon card did a very nice

713
00:34:09,560 --> 00:34:13,560
Speaker 1: job on Jordy Nelson. Ultimately, it's third and fifteen in

714
00:34:13,640 --> 00:34:15,759
Speaker 1: a huge spot, and you gave up a forty six

715
00:34:15,840 --> 00:34:18,040
Speaker 1: yard touchdown because you can't tackle anyone. They're done in

716
00:34:18,160 --> 00:34:21,800
Speaker 1: by that sterling more Davante Adams matchup and then G. J.

717
00:34:21,960 --> 00:34:27,840
Speaker 1: Wilcox whiffing on Adam's long touch. Is it crazy? We

718
00:34:27,880 --> 00:34:30,480
Speaker 1: won't think of Davone Adams is like having the greatest

719
00:34:30,560 --> 00:34:34,600
Speaker 1: rookie year of all time or anything. But he's essentially

720
00:34:34,680 --> 00:34:37,560
Speaker 1: won them. They're two biggest games of the year. He

721
00:34:37,719 --> 00:34:41,600
Speaker 1: essentially essentially beat the Patriots. His matchup beat the Patriots,

722
00:34:41,719 --> 00:34:44,200
Speaker 1: and he was probably the most valuable at least the

723
00:34:44,239 --> 00:34:46,960
Speaker 1: most valuable receiver on the on the Packers. His run

724
00:34:47,000 --> 00:34:50,399
Speaker 1: after catchability was really impressive today. West, We're gonna get

725
00:34:50,400 --> 00:34:54,600
Speaker 1: into the NFS title game all week obviously, but how

726
00:34:54,680 --> 00:34:58,280
Speaker 1: concerned are you about Rogers dealing with the Seattle defense.

727
00:34:58,760 --> 00:35:00,520
Speaker 1: Is this a pea scale or just the normal one

728
00:35:00,600 --> 00:35:03,200
Speaker 1: to ten scale? Will hold off on the p scale,

729
00:35:03,440 --> 00:35:06,640
Speaker 1: but this is just normal non urine based scale right now.

730
00:35:06,760 --> 00:35:09,040
Speaker 1: I would give it on a scale of one to ten.

731
00:35:09,040 --> 00:35:11,440
Speaker 1: I would give it a good solid seven and a

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00:35:11,520 --> 00:35:16,239
Speaker 1: half scare on Roger's calf because as well as he

733
00:35:16,360 --> 00:35:19,360
Speaker 1: played from four minutes left in the third quarter on

734
00:35:20,440 --> 00:35:22,520
Speaker 1: for the other three quarters, that was an issue. It

735
00:35:22,600 --> 00:35:25,000
Speaker 1: was a major issue in his performance and in how

736
00:35:25,040 --> 00:35:28,080
Speaker 1: the Packers played. I said in our video, which again

737
00:35:28,120 --> 00:35:31,560
Speaker 1: you guys should check out on the website, that this

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Speaker 1: to me, although everything points to Seattle being in a

739
00:35:34,640 --> 00:35:37,080
Speaker 1: really good spot. This also this feels like an Aaron

740
00:35:37,160 --> 00:35:39,800
Speaker 1: Rodgers a football life season that's coming together, what with

741
00:35:39,880 --> 00:35:42,680
Speaker 1: their slow start and getting beat bad in Seattle in

742
00:35:42,760 --> 00:35:45,399
Speaker 1: week one, and then he does his famous relaxed comment.

743
00:35:45,440 --> 00:35:48,400
Speaker 1: They go on that role. He hurts himself, he fights

744
00:35:48,480 --> 00:35:51,160
Speaker 1: through it, wins this heroic game, and then gets revenge

745
00:35:51,200 --> 00:35:53,439
Speaker 1: on Seattle and NFC title game, limping all over the place,

746
00:35:53,440 --> 00:35:55,680
Speaker 1: and then wins the Super Bowl over Tommy Boyd Brady.

747
00:35:56,320 --> 00:35:58,720
Speaker 1: That was our super Bowl prediction. That is a football

748
00:35:58,800 --> 00:36:01,279
Speaker 1: life before the season come to life, and it just

749
00:36:01,360 --> 00:36:04,040
Speaker 1: seems like this could be his special year as MVP season.

750
00:36:04,040 --> 00:36:06,520
Speaker 1: I don't know, we'll see that script. He needs to

751
00:36:06,760 --> 00:36:09,600
Speaker 1: could happen. He needs to have everyone around him be

752
00:36:09,760 --> 00:36:11,919
Speaker 1: a little better than they were today. And they were good.

753
00:36:12,120 --> 00:36:14,040
Speaker 1: They were good today. Ultimately they gained a hundred more

754
00:36:14,160 --> 00:36:16,200
Speaker 1: yards than the Cowboys. But I mean Julius Peppers, I

755
00:36:16,239 --> 00:36:17,839
Speaker 1: was gonna say, I don't know if Julius Peppers can

756
00:36:17,880 --> 00:36:19,480
Speaker 1: play better than he did today. He was the best

757
00:36:19,520 --> 00:36:21,759
Speaker 1: player on the field for most of it. But I

758
00:36:22,080 --> 00:36:25,600
Speaker 1: guess I mean Clay Matthews and Eddie Lacy went over

759
00:36:25,600 --> 00:36:27,759
Speaker 1: a hundred yards. He can't really knock him. Although he

760
00:36:28,000 --> 00:36:30,960
Speaker 1: disappeared for about two and a half quarters of that game,

761
00:36:31,000 --> 00:36:33,680
Speaker 1: there were no fault of his own. Why they go

762
00:36:33,840 --> 00:36:36,200
Speaker 1: away with from him? They have different packages at the

763
00:36:36,320 --> 00:36:39,080
Speaker 1: end there they were using Randall Cobb as a sidecar

764
00:36:39,160 --> 00:36:41,680
Speaker 1: in the back in the backfield because they wanted to

765
00:36:41,760 --> 00:36:43,680
Speaker 1: force the Cowboys to play his z own. And we'll

766
00:36:44,040 --> 00:36:46,120
Speaker 1: talk about it all week, but what a I mean,

767
00:36:46,160 --> 00:36:49,239
Speaker 1: their offensive line is going to have to just have

768
00:36:49,360 --> 00:36:52,040
Speaker 1: a pristine little pocket, which is not easy to be

769
00:36:52,080 --> 00:36:54,200
Speaker 1: hard to do against Michael Benn and Bruce Irvan. That's

770
00:36:54,200 --> 00:36:56,320
Speaker 1: gonna be very difficult to do. But that's you know,

771
00:36:56,600 --> 00:36:58,480
Speaker 1: you don't win the Super Bowl by playing a bunch

772
00:36:58,480 --> 00:37:01,600
Speaker 1: of chumps. That's in New York, bozos. Let's move on

773
00:37:01,719 --> 00:37:04,759
Speaker 1: to the final game that we'll go go through. It

774
00:37:04,840 --> 00:37:07,440
Speaker 1: was actually Saturday night. It was played at Century Link

775
00:37:07,560 --> 00:37:10,959
Speaker 1: Field in Seattle, where Russell Wilson, he's like, what about

776
00:37:11,000 --> 00:37:13,759
Speaker 1: me and the torch? He threw three touchdown passes. Camp

777
00:37:13,880 --> 00:37:17,560
Speaker 1: Chancellor returned an interception ninety yards of pick six, and

778
00:37:17,640 --> 00:37:20,360
Speaker 1: the Seahawks took care of business, beating the Panthers thirty

779
00:37:20,400 --> 00:37:24,000
Speaker 1: one seventeen to move to the NFC title game for

780
00:37:24,200 --> 00:37:27,200
Speaker 1: the second straight year. That's right, right, it's a third

781
00:37:27,320 --> 00:37:31,000
Speaker 1: or second. You know, it doesn't matter. The histories history,

782
00:37:31,239 --> 00:37:33,800
Speaker 1: and we're in the future now and the Seattle Seahawks

783
00:37:33,840 --> 00:37:36,320
Speaker 1: are moving on there in the final four. They have

784
00:37:36,480 --> 00:37:38,840
Speaker 1: won a playoff game every year Wilson has been in

785
00:37:38,880 --> 00:37:40,839
Speaker 1: the league. But now they didn't make the title game

786
00:37:40,920 --> 00:37:43,200
Speaker 1: the first year. Alright, good, I'm glad we figured that out.

787
00:37:43,600 --> 00:37:45,719
Speaker 1: The Panthers have done. The Seahawks move on, and let's

788
00:37:45,960 --> 00:37:48,440
Speaker 1: talk about it. We have on the phone from his

789
00:37:48,719 --> 00:37:53,080
Speaker 1: New Jersey haunted mansion. He was in the gentleman. He's

790
00:37:53,280 --> 00:37:55,759
Speaker 1: he's obviously in great peril once again, as you could hear,

791
00:37:56,400 --> 00:37:58,719
Speaker 1: he was in Seattle. I don't know where Greg was

792
00:37:58,760 --> 00:38:02,600
Speaker 1: getting this money, but Greg flew out Connor from Jersey

793
00:38:03,200 --> 00:38:06,240
Speaker 1: to Seattle to cover this game for around the NFL,

794
00:38:06,320 --> 00:38:08,560
Speaker 1: and Connor of course got the job done. To the

795
00:38:08,600 --> 00:38:12,560
Speaker 1: great job, Connor. Or what's up, buddy, what's happening? Everybody? Man?

796
00:38:12,680 --> 00:38:15,680
Speaker 1: Connor Hey, So I was in Seattle for the week

797
00:38:16,440 --> 00:38:19,279
Speaker 1: week one kickoff game, and which was a real fun

798
00:38:19,400 --> 00:38:22,200
Speaker 1: experience because it's such a great home crowd and that

799
00:38:22,320 --> 00:38:24,680
Speaker 1: was Week one defending the title. What was the crowd

800
00:38:24,760 --> 00:38:28,359
Speaker 1: like there yesterday? He was insane? You know. I talked

801
00:38:28,400 --> 00:38:31,280
Speaker 1: to a couple of people who said, when Cam Chancellor

802
00:38:31,480 --> 00:38:34,120
Speaker 1: kind of sealed the game with that pick six, Um.

803
00:38:34,719 --> 00:38:36,400
Speaker 1: I heard a couple of fans like I like to

804
00:38:36,480 --> 00:38:38,360
Speaker 1: walk around with the fans like after the game if

805
00:38:38,360 --> 00:38:39,839
Speaker 1: I could catch some of them on the way back,

806
00:38:39,960 --> 00:38:41,680
Speaker 1: just to hear what they're saying. And a couple of

807
00:38:41,719 --> 00:38:43,600
Speaker 1: season ticket holders so that they had never heard the

808
00:38:44,040 --> 00:38:47,120
Speaker 1: stadium that lab after the Cam Chancellor pick six. And

809
00:38:47,520 --> 00:38:50,640
Speaker 1: and that's saying something since they seemed to have continuously

810
00:38:50,760 --> 00:38:54,440
Speaker 1: one up to their Guinness Book of World Records status

811
00:38:54,560 --> 00:38:57,960
Speaker 1: in that stadium. And this was a game where I

812
00:38:58,040 --> 00:39:01,759
Speaker 1: thought Carolina really for five hundred team that nobody thought

813
00:39:01,800 --> 00:39:03,880
Speaker 1: gave any chance this game. They at least made it

814
00:39:04,480 --> 00:39:07,920
Speaker 1: interesting into the fourth quarter, into the second half, but

815
00:39:08,000 --> 00:39:10,040
Speaker 1: there was never a moment Greg I would think where

816
00:39:10,080 --> 00:39:12,640
Speaker 1: you ever thought, wow, is this a game they could steal?

817
00:39:12,800 --> 00:39:16,160
Speaker 1: Was there No? But it's easy to forget that it

818
00:39:16,320 --> 00:39:19,160
Speaker 1: was a four point lead going into the fourth quarter.

819
00:39:19,360 --> 00:39:23,640
Speaker 1: And it struck me how similar all these Seahawks home

820
00:39:23,719 --> 00:39:26,600
Speaker 1: games have been lately, that they'll be tied or they're

821
00:39:26,680 --> 00:39:30,160
Speaker 1: losing at halftime, that they'll kind of get it going

822
00:39:30,239 --> 00:39:33,040
Speaker 1: maybe in the third quarter, and then suddenly the fourth

823
00:39:33,160 --> 00:39:35,719
Speaker 1: quarter comes in. It's just like it's Seahawk time. We're

824
00:39:35,719 --> 00:39:38,840
Speaker 1: gonna blow you out and you're done. So it reminds

825
00:39:38,880 --> 00:39:42,080
Speaker 1: me of Swingers, where uh Vince Vaughan's character is talking

826
00:39:42,719 --> 00:39:47,080
Speaker 1: uh to what's his name, John fab John Fabro, and

827
00:39:47,160 --> 00:39:48,880
Speaker 1: he's like, you know, you got these bear claws and

828
00:39:48,920 --> 00:39:50,920
Speaker 1: you're just flawing at him with your bear claws, but

829
00:39:51,000 --> 00:39:53,640
Speaker 1: you got these big clause you're gonna tear him apart.

830
00:39:54,120 --> 00:39:55,960
Speaker 1: You don't want to hurt him, just you're just played him.

831
00:39:56,000 --> 00:39:58,360
Speaker 1: You're just playing with him when him what do you

832
00:39:58,400 --> 00:40:02,360
Speaker 1: think was more impressive Connor bad Man, Cam Chancellor in

833
00:40:02,440 --> 00:40:06,920
Speaker 1: the defense, especially the secondary or Russell Wilson, Well, I

834
00:40:07,000 --> 00:40:10,080
Speaker 1: think it's two fold. I mean Cam Chancellor, we we

835
00:40:10,239 --> 00:40:12,880
Speaker 1: all sort of took a step backwards. We watched him

836
00:40:13,000 --> 00:40:16,760
Speaker 1: blow up Mike Tilber and it was like he knocked

837
00:40:16,800 --> 00:40:19,760
Speaker 1: them three yards backwards, and we were all thinking maybe

838
00:40:19,880 --> 00:40:22,560
Speaker 1: Troy Paula Malo in his prime, but who else could

839
00:40:22,600 --> 00:40:26,080
Speaker 1: do that moving from one section of his body to

840
00:40:26,160 --> 00:40:31,120
Speaker 1: the other on that place. But but Russell Wilson was cool.

841
00:40:31,120 --> 00:40:33,000
Speaker 1: I got to talk to Warren Moon a little bit

842
00:40:33,080 --> 00:40:35,439
Speaker 1: after and I asked him, like, there were so many

843
00:40:35,520 --> 00:40:39,000
Speaker 1: third downs where you know, Caroline was given them that bootleg,

844
00:40:39,200 --> 00:40:42,680
Speaker 1: and Russell Wilson was throwing touch passes over defenders they

845
00:40:42,719 --> 00:40:44,920
Speaker 1: were a foot taller than he was, and like just

846
00:40:45,040 --> 00:40:47,160
Speaker 1: watching him do that. Plus I mean, I mean that

847
00:40:47,320 --> 00:40:50,240
Speaker 1: touchdown to Curse was was one of the best throws

848
00:40:50,640 --> 00:40:52,239
Speaker 1: I've seen all year. I mean it was perfect and

849
00:40:52,360 --> 00:40:55,040
Speaker 1: stride Curse got away was a little push off, but

850
00:40:55,480 --> 00:40:57,359
Speaker 1: I mean that that was one of the best games

851
00:40:57,440 --> 00:40:59,279
Speaker 1: he's played as a Seahawks. Dude, I don't think there's

852
00:40:59,280 --> 00:41:01,360
Speaker 1: any question about he was almost perfect. I mean it

853
00:41:01,440 --> 00:41:03,560
Speaker 1: was eight of eight on third down for two yards,

854
00:41:03,719 --> 00:41:07,560
Speaker 1: which is outrageous. Seven first downs, three touchdowns, that's all

855
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Speaker 1: on third down. He plays such a different style than

856
00:41:11,840 --> 00:41:15,800
Speaker 1: anyone else, anyone really, but it's so efficient you have

857
00:41:15,960 --> 00:41:19,959
Speaker 1: less chances to make big plays, but like every chance

858
00:41:20,040 --> 00:41:21,880
Speaker 1: he had to make a big play. He basically did

859
00:41:21,960 --> 00:41:24,560
Speaker 1: it in this game. He did and and then and

860
00:41:24,640 --> 00:41:27,239
Speaker 1: then you have that backing of of of Marshawn Lynch.

861
00:41:27,360 --> 00:41:29,520
Speaker 1: So it's like you can do what Russell Wilson does,

862
00:41:29,560 --> 00:41:32,680
Speaker 1: which is essentially like like a like a game management

863
00:41:33,120 --> 00:41:35,600
Speaker 1: on steroids, you know, and then he can comp something

864
00:41:35,680 --> 00:41:38,400
Speaker 1: like he did to Doug Baldwin, where you know, they

865
00:41:38,480 --> 00:41:40,600
Speaker 1: bring the safeties down and he has a one on

866
00:41:40,719 --> 00:41:44,040
Speaker 1: one or or something like that. But it's it's just

867
00:41:44,160 --> 00:41:46,279
Speaker 1: a great formula they have right now, which is why

868
00:41:46,280 --> 00:41:49,200
Speaker 1: I like, I'm almost curious to see what what they'll

869
00:41:49,280 --> 00:41:51,920
Speaker 1: do as far as upgrading skill positions in the future,

870
00:41:52,000 --> 00:41:53,920
Speaker 1: just to see if if they think they need to

871
00:41:53,960 --> 00:41:56,359
Speaker 1: give him more weapons, because I would love to see

872
00:41:56,640 --> 00:41:59,520
Speaker 1: what the score would have been on Saturday. Perfey Harvard

873
00:41:59,560 --> 00:42:01,920
Speaker 1: was film team Paul Richardson towards a c L in

874
00:42:02,000 --> 00:42:04,759
Speaker 1: the game. And but Marshawn Lynch, I mean again, we

875
00:42:04,840 --> 00:42:06,799
Speaker 1: talked about it a little bit last week. They if

876
00:42:06,840 --> 00:42:09,400
Speaker 1: they ever if they were thinking about moving on from him,

877
00:42:09,440 --> 00:42:10,480
Speaker 1: and I know he's a bit of a pain in

878
00:42:10,520 --> 00:42:12,360
Speaker 1: the ass or whatever, but if you were thinking of

879
00:42:12,440 --> 00:42:14,640
Speaker 1: moving on again, it just every time he touches the ball,

880
00:42:14,680 --> 00:42:18,480
Speaker 1: the crowd goes nuts. He makes big plays, he sheds tacklers,

881
00:42:18,520 --> 00:42:21,480
Speaker 1: it's almost always a positive play. He is I mean,

882
00:42:21,600 --> 00:42:23,439
Speaker 1: Russell Wilson is the most important player on the team,

883
00:42:23,480 --> 00:42:25,680
Speaker 1: but he's the lifeblood of that offense. I mean, it's

884
00:42:25,719 --> 00:42:27,480
Speaker 1: so amazing to see what he does for the team

885
00:42:27,520 --> 00:42:30,239
Speaker 1: every time he touches the ball. Yeah, I was thinking

886
00:42:30,280 --> 00:42:31,640
Speaker 1: the same thing. I mean, I think it would be

887
00:42:31,719 --> 00:42:34,800
Speaker 1: so naive to think that that that that Turban or

888
00:42:35,120 --> 00:42:37,640
Speaker 1: Michael could just come in and the two of them

889
00:42:37,719 --> 00:42:40,440
Speaker 1: could combine to do what what Marshawn Lynch has done.

890
00:42:40,480 --> 00:42:43,200
Speaker 1: I mean, I've just never seen kind of an evasiveness

891
00:42:43,360 --> 00:42:46,080
Speaker 1: like that from running back before. And then it's also

892
00:42:46,200 --> 00:42:49,080
Speaker 1: the like you said, kind of the personality that fits

893
00:42:49,400 --> 00:42:52,560
Speaker 1: somehow in that in that puzzle that is their locker room,

894
00:42:52,600 --> 00:42:55,760
Speaker 1: and it's like, you know, he's just every bit Seattle

895
00:42:55,920 --> 00:42:59,239
Speaker 1: right now, and like they serve skittles in the breck box. Writer,

896
00:42:59,600 --> 00:43:02,480
Speaker 1: what were you went out to dinner with Doug Baldwin?

897
00:43:02,680 --> 00:43:05,799
Speaker 1: Look at you and the night before. I mean, that's

898
00:43:05,840 --> 00:43:09,040
Speaker 1: a that's a big timing reporter news Like, well, first

899
00:43:09,080 --> 00:43:10,279
Speaker 1: of all, tell us about that, but what do you

900
00:43:10,360 --> 00:43:12,160
Speaker 1: think like his teammates would think if they got rid

901
00:43:12,200 --> 00:43:14,239
Speaker 1: of Lynch, wouldn't they be wouldn't they be furious? I

902
00:43:14,280 --> 00:43:16,000
Speaker 1: want to know what his teammates to think about Connor

903
00:43:16,080 --> 00:43:21,080
Speaker 1: Oregon and lunch with Doug Baldwin. Well, first things first, Uh,

904
00:43:22,280 --> 00:43:24,279
Speaker 1: Doug had a smoothie, so it was all good, you know,

905
00:43:25,320 --> 00:43:29,799
Speaker 1: But uh, I honestly think that they would they would

906
00:43:29,840 --> 00:43:31,400
Speaker 1: roll the rise to it because it's like, you know,

907
00:43:31,719 --> 00:43:33,640
Speaker 1: Russell is going to get the big contract. We all

908
00:43:33,719 --> 00:43:37,160
Speaker 1: know that he's next year. There's chance he's the highest

909
00:43:37,200 --> 00:43:40,919
Speaker 1: big quarterback in football. But I just think that still

910
00:43:41,080 --> 00:43:44,040
Speaker 1: at some level, like the way that he operates compared

911
00:43:44,080 --> 00:43:46,520
Speaker 1: to the way that Marshall Lunch operates, I think that

912
00:43:46,719 --> 00:43:49,520
Speaker 1: Lynch is so much more kind of an emotional barometer

913
00:43:50,200 --> 00:43:53,239
Speaker 1: for that team. Like and I think that I think

914
00:43:53,320 --> 00:43:56,000
Speaker 1: that Schneider and and the rest of the Seahawks would

915
00:43:56,000 --> 00:43:59,880
Speaker 1: be so wide just to really find whatever room spareing

916
00:44:00,040 --> 00:44:02,040
Speaker 1: they have in the cap gives him like a nice

917
00:44:02,160 --> 00:44:04,279
Speaker 1: two or three year deal for think a little bit

918
00:44:04,320 --> 00:44:06,960
Speaker 1: more than each work, just to kind of ape I

919
00:44:07,040 --> 00:44:08,759
Speaker 1: think that would go a long wait for it's helping

920
00:44:08,800 --> 00:44:11,319
Speaker 1: everybody else out well, I think the Seahawks did plan

921
00:44:11,440 --> 00:44:14,160
Speaker 1: to move on, but NFL plans aren't written in stone.

922
00:44:14,200 --> 00:44:17,200
Speaker 1: They flow like a river. And they have to adjust

923
00:44:17,320 --> 00:44:20,400
Speaker 1: now because they thought Lynch would be on the decline,

924
00:44:20,400 --> 00:44:22,360
Speaker 1: because his numbers the past couple of years showed that

925
00:44:22,400 --> 00:44:24,400
Speaker 1: he was declining, and then he goes out and has

926
00:44:24,480 --> 00:44:26,399
Speaker 1: his best Here was a bigger part of the passing game,

927
00:44:26,800 --> 00:44:28,920
Speaker 1: more integral to the offense. I think they have to

928
00:44:28,960 --> 00:44:31,440
Speaker 1: adjust those plans, and I think they will. Yeah, I

929
00:44:31,560 --> 00:44:34,280
Speaker 1: don't think there's any questions. You can't you can't overlook

930
00:44:34,320 --> 00:44:36,799
Speaker 1: a town like that, and and and letting him hit

931
00:44:36,840 --> 00:44:38,840
Speaker 1: the three markets. He just seems like the kind of

932
00:44:38,880 --> 00:44:41,120
Speaker 1: guy that would try his best to stick in the

933
00:44:41,200 --> 00:44:44,040
Speaker 1: division and just try to uh to stick into the

934
00:44:44,080 --> 00:44:46,680
Speaker 1: Seahawks twice this season, every year, especially if they win,

935
00:44:46,840 --> 00:44:48,440
Speaker 1: especially if they win a title. I mean, this is

936
00:44:48,600 --> 00:44:51,400
Speaker 1: a story that's just starting really for them. I mean,

937
00:44:51,520 --> 00:44:54,800
Speaker 1: they they have the pieces. It's insane how they have

938
00:44:55,040 --> 00:44:57,840
Speaker 1: seven or eight different players on their defense. That feels

939
00:44:57,920 --> 00:45:00,400
Speaker 1: like that guy can take over at the game, and

940
00:45:00,480 --> 00:45:03,320
Speaker 1: Bruce Irvan continued to play really well. I was in

941
00:45:03,640 --> 00:45:05,799
Speaker 1: press with Cliff Avriel. It's like everyone is playing well

942
00:45:05,880 --> 00:45:07,920
Speaker 1: for them, Connor, because I don't know if we'll get

943
00:45:07,960 --> 00:45:11,520
Speaker 1: to talk to you before next Sunday's show. I'm curious

944
00:45:11,600 --> 00:45:13,719
Speaker 1: if you think being in that building, being in that

945
00:45:13,840 --> 00:45:17,719
Speaker 1: locker room getting lunch with a star wide receiver, do

946
00:45:17,800 --> 00:45:19,520
Speaker 1: you get the vibe that there's any way a team

947
00:45:19,560 --> 00:45:22,000
Speaker 1: will go in there and steal the NFC title game

948
00:45:22,000 --> 00:45:24,759
Speaker 1: away from him? I think so. I mean there was

949
00:45:24,840 --> 00:45:28,560
Speaker 1: one point when, uh, I mean Carolina kept it close,

950
00:45:28,719 --> 00:45:31,360
Speaker 1: and I think the second time that they scored, you know,

951
00:45:31,440 --> 00:45:33,680
Speaker 1: the stadium actually did go quiet. I mean, there are

952
00:45:33,840 --> 00:45:36,560
Speaker 1: times when the crowd can be taken out of the game,

953
00:45:36,600 --> 00:45:39,359
Speaker 1: and I think that that they can be neutralized. It's

954
00:45:39,400 --> 00:45:41,800
Speaker 1: just it's just a matter of, you know, can the

955
00:45:41,880 --> 00:45:44,320
Speaker 1: team go blow for blow or something like that. And

956
00:45:44,920 --> 00:45:47,480
Speaker 1: you know, I do think the Seahawks are very beatable,

957
00:45:47,960 --> 00:45:51,080
Speaker 1: especially between the first and third quarter, like the fourth,

958
00:45:51,560 --> 00:45:54,120
Speaker 1: if David Slender lead or it's close, I don't I

959
00:45:54,160 --> 00:45:56,600
Speaker 1: don't think it's a question. But if if you're up

960
00:45:56,640 --> 00:45:59,040
Speaker 1: two touchdowns in the in the fourth quarter, I think

961
00:45:59,080 --> 00:46:00,960
Speaker 1: you have a decent shot or even one time to

962
00:46:01,120 --> 00:46:04,600
Speaker 1: give a decent shot at taking out all right, Connor,

963
00:46:04,719 --> 00:46:08,759
Speaker 1: thank you excellent stuff from the doomed Connor or who

964
00:46:09,560 --> 00:46:11,960
Speaker 1: really is the only true reporter in the group. Let's

965
00:46:11,960 --> 00:46:15,279
Speaker 1: be honest, this guy, he's he's the good. So thank

966
00:46:15,320 --> 00:46:17,319
Speaker 1: you very much for the great work. And Greg will

967
00:46:17,360 --> 00:46:23,280
Speaker 1: be sending you now on his time to Acapolco. Alright,

968
00:46:25,680 --> 00:46:27,360
Speaker 1: all right, before we go west, I'm gonna put you

969
00:46:27,400 --> 00:46:29,800
Speaker 1: on the spot because I find you to be a scientist,

970
00:46:29,920 --> 00:46:32,719
Speaker 1: so much so that I call you the scientists the times. Uh.

971
00:46:33,239 --> 00:46:35,600
Speaker 1: There are four quarterbacks remaining, okay, and this might be

972
00:46:35,680 --> 00:46:37,200
Speaker 1: one of the great final fours in the history of

973
00:46:37,200 --> 00:46:40,279
Speaker 1: the league. At the quarterback position. Tom Brady, Andrew Luck,

974
00:46:40,360 --> 00:46:43,319
Speaker 1: Russell Wilson, Aaron Rodgers. In less than five seconds, put

975
00:46:43,400 --> 00:46:47,080
Speaker 1: them in order healthy Aaron Rodgers number one, Tom Brady

976
00:46:47,160 --> 00:46:50,000
Speaker 1: number two, Andrew Luck number three, Russell Wilson number four.

977
00:46:50,160 --> 00:46:58,040
Speaker 1: Greg football Head Right now, yes, Rogers, I think man,

978
00:46:58,520 --> 00:47:03,440
Speaker 1: I do a ranking system of four one, Russell Wilson.

979
00:47:03,520 --> 00:47:05,120
Speaker 1: I do year end. I mean I do these year

980
00:47:05,160 --> 00:47:09,480
Speaker 1: in rankings quarterback index. And for there it was Rogers, Brady, Luck, Wilson.

981
00:47:09,600 --> 00:47:11,880
Speaker 1: But for for right now this week, I think I

982
00:47:11,880 --> 00:47:14,600
Speaker 1: would take a Luck over Brady. So you think the

983
00:47:14,640 --> 00:47:17,399
Speaker 1: cults are gonna beat your team. No, I don't see

984
00:47:17,440 --> 00:47:18,840
Speaker 1: he's shaking his head. It feels like he has a

985
00:47:18,880 --> 00:47:22,040
Speaker 1: hot take back. No hot sake. I'm just saying, like Brady,

986
00:47:22,239 --> 00:47:24,160
Speaker 1: it's more like a lifetime achievement award. I know he

987
00:47:24,200 --> 00:47:27,520
Speaker 1: had a great nod, had a couple of moments, but

988
00:47:27,960 --> 00:47:31,840
Speaker 1: I might take Wilson and look ahead of Brady after Rogers.

989
00:47:31,920 --> 00:47:36,239
Speaker 1: I'm just say Brady being severely disrespected. Brady. Brady had

990
00:47:36,239 --> 00:47:39,680
Speaker 1: a great progressive guys. He's an assassin who was the

991
00:47:39,760 --> 00:47:43,560
Speaker 1: best body language? Oh Russell, no question, I take Russell.

992
00:47:43,719 --> 00:47:46,400
Speaker 1: Well you don't like Tom Brady's body language, Well you

993
00:47:46,680 --> 00:47:48,359
Speaker 1: have his head, but yeah he does. He does get

994
00:47:48,360 --> 00:47:50,040
Speaker 1: a little party, suns a little bit. Yeah, he does

995
00:47:50,120 --> 00:47:52,000
Speaker 1: get a little pouty. Sometimes looks good as well. He

996
00:47:52,040 --> 00:47:54,000
Speaker 1: I mean, there's a guy who gives all four great

997
00:47:54,040 --> 00:47:57,960
Speaker 1: body languages? Were Runner Rogers? No, no, no, Roger is

998
00:47:58,000 --> 00:48:02,080
Speaker 1: not top ten. He's not very very just everybody how

999
00:48:02,160 --> 00:48:04,200
Speaker 1: his TV is being totally serious right now. No, I am.

1000
00:48:04,280 --> 00:48:06,640
Speaker 1: He's very by himself about himself. As you can see

1001
00:48:06,680 --> 00:48:10,000
Speaker 1: a lot of X stuff like, oh that guy, he's

1002
00:48:10,040 --> 00:48:13,120
Speaker 1: not really like he's very little weird. Yeah he thinks

1003
00:48:13,120 --> 00:48:16,800
Speaker 1: he's the man a little bit too much. But you know,

1004
00:48:17,040 --> 00:48:18,680
Speaker 1: people kind of get Jos to that. All right, you

1005
00:48:18,800 --> 00:48:23,279
Speaker 1: heard it there first. Not a good dude TD the

1006
00:48:23,360 --> 00:48:25,839
Speaker 1: thing those other quarterbacks they don't have though that Tom

1007
00:48:25,880 --> 00:48:28,360
Speaker 1: Brady has been spending a decade searching for used to

1008
00:48:28,440 --> 00:48:30,719
Speaker 1: have it early in his career, the playoff magic, and

1009
00:48:30,800 --> 00:48:33,520
Speaker 1: tom Brady found it last week. Now he's gonna sprinkle

1010
00:48:33,560 --> 00:48:39,360
Speaker 1: it the rest of them. We will be back on Wednesday,

1011
00:48:39,560 --> 00:48:42,280
Speaker 1: right right, I think we'll be back what Tuesday, actually

1012
00:48:42,360 --> 00:48:47,000
Speaker 1: this week? If Tuesday, al right, back Tuesday. We'll get

1013
00:48:47,040 --> 00:48:49,160
Speaker 1: Sessler back in the fold, if we can find him,

1014
00:48:49,840 --> 00:48:51,800
Speaker 1: if he's not wandering too deep into the forest. So

1015
00:48:51,880 --> 00:48:56,080
Speaker 1: we'll go four across to start digging into championship weekend.

1016
00:48:56,440 --> 00:48:58,800
Speaker 1: As we get closer and closer. And in case you

1017
00:48:58,880 --> 00:49:02,160
Speaker 1: were wondering, we're all going to Arizona, the whole around,

1018
00:49:02,200 --> 00:49:05,200
Speaker 1: the around, the NFL group Patricks covering the Pro Bowl.

1019
00:49:05,480 --> 00:49:07,319
Speaker 1: I think Connor or is gonna be with us, right,

1020
00:49:08,000 --> 00:49:09,880
Speaker 1: he will, So we're we're gonna be all over this

1021
00:49:09,960 --> 00:49:12,360
Speaker 1: and the podcast will be live from Arizona. Might have

1022
00:49:12,400 --> 00:49:15,520
Speaker 1: a special show in store. There's a lot to be

1023
00:49:15,600 --> 00:49:18,440
Speaker 1: excited to get excited about. There's only three games left

1024
00:49:18,480 --> 00:49:21,480
Speaker 1: in the season, but the funds just getting started for

1025
00:49:21,520 --> 00:49:24,160
Speaker 1: the Round the NFL podcast, so we'll be back on Tuesday.

1026
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Speaker 1: This is Dan hans Is signing off for the Mailman

1027
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Speaker 1: or the Scientists and the Boss and of course TV

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Speaker 1: Behind the Glass until Tuesday.