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Speaker 1: We'll lead you up to the NBA Draft. I do

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Speaker 1: have some nuggets from some players that have pulled out

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Speaker 1: of the NBA Draft. There's a lot of big news,

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Speaker 1: a lot of big news in college basketball. I'll kind

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Speaker 1: of run down some bullets here later on on the show,

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Speaker 1: but let me get to what we saw last night

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Speaker 1: Game one NBA Finals. If you listen to my radio show,

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Speaker 1: which you can listen to nationally three to six Eastern time,

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Speaker 1: note that ever since the Eastern and Western Conference Finals ended,

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Speaker 1: I predicted that this would be a much more competitive

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Speaker 1: series than the rest of the world thought. My logic

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Speaker 1: behind it was the Warriors are three on five on offense,

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Speaker 1: and once you get to the bench, boy, now a sudden,

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Speaker 1: it becomes I mean, they're just they're just plugging holes,

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Speaker 1: especially with that Andre Goodala. Additionally, Lebron's awesome. The way

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Speaker 1: the league is officiated, the way this team up, the

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Speaker 1: team is set up to spread it completely out around him,

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Speaker 1: gives him a chance, gives him a you know, a

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Speaker 1: puncher's chance if he's making his jump shots, making the shots,

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Speaker 1: if they hit shots on kickouts. I think you can

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Speaker 1: be you can be competitive. And even though the Calves

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Speaker 1: are a bad defensive team throughout the entire regular season,

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Speaker 1: you don't have to guard Draymond, and I thought they

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Speaker 1: do exactly what they did, which is putting Lebron on

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Speaker 1: Draymond so he can he can rest and h then

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Speaker 1: you can put Tristan Thompson on whoever that fourth starter is,

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Speaker 1: or put you and try and put Kevin Love, although

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Speaker 1: Kevin Love was awful defensively. But what they're doing and

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Speaker 1: very simply is basically playing three on five defense, three

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Speaker 1: on five on three defensively, and then you want to

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Speaker 1: run Golden State off the three point line, chase him

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Speaker 1: into where the help is, and make them pass the

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Speaker 1: the floor. That's why Sean Livingston had ten points. Kevon

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Speaker 1: Looney had a couple of looks. Something he made, something

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Speaker 1: he missed, so why Draymond Green was so wide open

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Speaker 1: and and seeing that, I thought we would have a

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Speaker 1: series and at least one game in we do. There's

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Speaker 1: a bunch of things to get to. Let me let

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Speaker 1: me tell you what I saw, and then we'll get

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Speaker 1: to the couple of the calls down the stretch and

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Speaker 1: to overtime. First thing, Um, something's wrong with Kevin Durant. Now.

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Speaker 1: Do I think it's frustrated to be told to move

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Speaker 1: the ball when sometimes guys aren't open all of a sudden.

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Speaker 1: The officiating is different when you're getting grabbed and held

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Speaker 1: and bodied up too, and there's another man in the

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Speaker 1: Golden State four. Absolutely, but he seems to be a

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Speaker 1: little bit lost offensively and defensively. He was getting lit

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Speaker 1: up last night from by Lebron. Some of it's not

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Speaker 1: But he just has to be better about it. He

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Speaker 1: has to be more physical about it. The physicality of

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Speaker 1: the postseason is really really reckon havoc on his game,

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Speaker 1: and mentally he just kind of seems out of it.

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Speaker 1: I mean the block charge call they got, that got changed,

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Speaker 1: pass for him to Draymond Green and Draymond Green lays

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Speaker 1: I mean just he's not playing smart, he's not playing

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Speaker 1: although defensively he's not He's not imposing his will nearly

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Speaker 1: as as well as much as he should. It wouldn't

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Speaker 1: surprise me if they do some creative switching on those

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Speaker 1: Wouldn't surprise me if they start double teaming Ron James

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Speaker 1: when the when all three of the Big three are

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Speaker 1: even though it feels like one on five with Lebron,

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Speaker 1: for me. Quinn Cook. They knew they couldn't play in

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Speaker 1: and that and that's why they they went with Pat

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Speaker 1: So look, I think there's a path there for the

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Speaker 1: Calves to win a couple of games. And if you

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Speaker 1: You can't. You got all you gonna do is win

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Speaker 1: and numbers, kind of a top heavy team. Three greade scores,

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Speaker 1: he lacks so much of the offensive skill it takes

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Speaker 1: to be considered a true superstar. He's a superstar role

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Speaker 1: I feel like they're one shooter away, one defender away.

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Speaker 1: Iguadaala is a defender, not the shooter, from being a

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Speaker 1: me like, well, now do you put him with Jordan's

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Speaker 1: Let's just remember that this is different. It's almost a

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Speaker 1: can get right to that. You can get right to

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Speaker 1: want to say, well, Michael Jordans couldn't wouldn't of whatever,

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Speaker 1: players have evolved. I mean tell me that Jordan would

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Speaker 1: He was strong enough where you've put a hand on

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Speaker 1: he's always been quick and explosive enough he would get

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Speaker 1: he's also a very good passer off penetration. That's why

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Speaker 1: just hard to compare the two. Here's what I'll say

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Speaker 1: moves you ever saw it because he knows he needs Jr.

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Speaker 1: And j R. Loves to fight, and everybody's gonna have

427
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Speaker 1: Lebron's back. So how likely are we to have a series?

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Speaker 1: You're very likely. You're very likely because Golden State only

429
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Speaker 1: did what they were supposed to do, going going right, doun.

430
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Speaker 1: Golden State did what they were supposed to do, and

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Speaker 1: yesterday Lebron rallies troops again, and there's a lot of

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Speaker 1: holes in that Golden State teams. I don't know if

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Speaker 1: Clay Thompson plays the next game. Don't be surprised if

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Speaker 1: he shows up on that injury report, all right, not

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Speaker 1: even to play. I haven't I don't know how he

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Speaker 1: got back in that game, Okay, so Eagle donna I

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00:23:52,520 --> 00:23:55,920
Speaker 1: doubt he comes back firing on all sailings. I thought

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Speaker 1: a lot of wholes we were able to execute their

439
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Speaker 1: game plans, and if a couple of guys down, not

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Speaker 1: that a handful of wet. I completely agree with you know,

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Speaker 1: I've I've heard people and it's it's almost it hurts

442
00:24:16,440 --> 00:24:18,880
Speaker 1: my brain sometimes it's like, well, look at all these

443
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Speaker 1: things that that had to happen, and and Golden State

444
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Speaker 1: still beat them. I was like, dude, gold State shot

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Speaker 1: fifty one thirty six and miss one free throw the

446
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Speaker 1: entire game played at home, how to run at the

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Speaker 1: start of the third quarter, and still needed a crazy

448
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Speaker 1: sequence of events in the fourth quarter just to you know,

449
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Speaker 1: just to beat um, just to beat the Cleveland Cavaliers

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Speaker 1: in Game one. I'm with you. I thought it was

451
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Speaker 1: a series before the series, and I think it's a

452
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Speaker 1: series now. You gotta be physical with them, and I

453
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Speaker 1: think the space around them. They last year they had

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Speaker 1: a bunch of dudes they can throw out Lebron James

455
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Speaker 1: to guard him. Now the best guy they have to

456
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Speaker 1: guard him is Kevin Durant, and clearly he's struggling with it.

457
00:25:02,000 --> 00:25:04,720
Speaker 1: It wears him down offensively, and without Iguadala, they have

458
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Speaker 1: no spacing. They don't have a guy to keep on Lebron.

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Speaker 1: They're all screwed up right now. They're not to mention,

460
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Speaker 1: Kevin Durant had to start on Lebron, and now Katie's

461
00:25:15,600 --> 00:25:18,959
Speaker 1: worrying about defense and scoring, and nobody wants to give

462
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Speaker 1: up a bucket. You know what I'm saying, You give

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Speaker 1: up a bucket morale boost a morale loss on the

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Speaker 1: other side. And you know Lebron is not the guy

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Speaker 1: you kind of talked mess to. When he can, when

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Speaker 1: he can put you in the rim, it's it's gonna

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Speaker 1: be it's gonna be fascinating to see. Doug gotlip show. Ryan,

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Speaker 1: thanks so much for joining us. Mayor, let's welcome to

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Speaker 1: Ethan Strouss, who joins us in the athletic. Ethan, I

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Speaker 1: know you haven't been listening. You've got a bunch of

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Speaker 1: other stuff you're doing. Do an outstanding job covering the NBA.

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Speaker 1: Um My thoughts, let's start with the call. My thoughts

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Speaker 1: in the call was like, look, I actually think they

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Speaker 1: got it right, and I think the reason, the true

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Speaker 1: reason they reviewed it is one official had it as

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Speaker 1: a charge and he made a big show of it.

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Speaker 1: The other guys are like, I had a block on

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Speaker 1: that one. And this is just a way to get

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Speaker 1: to catch a breath and to and to to to

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Speaker 1: let you know, New York in on making the final

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Speaker 1: call on such a call. Is that Is that a

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Speaker 1: reasonable way of looking at Yeah, and I think you're

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Speaker 1: you're right on the money with that, and you're probably

484
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Speaker 1: showing your playing experience and something that one out that

485
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Speaker 1: there is some old school reffing that then they retroactively

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Speaker 1: say it's according to rules section A slash B that

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Speaker 1: you know it has something to do with the restricted area. No,

488
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Speaker 1: they just thought maybe they botched that one. They had

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Speaker 1: an excuse to go and look at it, and then

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Speaker 1: they could retroactively correct it. And look, I'm against free

491
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Speaker 1: play review in general. I think it's it's bad. It's

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Speaker 1: perfect is the enemy of good, right uh. And people

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Speaker 1: want to get the call right, but in doing that

494
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Speaker 1: they're screwing up the flow of the game. And then

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Speaker 1: there's this controversy over is it enough to overturn? And

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Speaker 1: I like the nineties, man, I like the ninety is.

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Speaker 1: Back in the day, there are some calls and we

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Speaker 1: all lived with it and we learned how to deal

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Speaker 1: with it. Um. And I don't think that this is

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Speaker 1: the best way to go about it. But under the

501
00:27:08,720 --> 00:27:11,880
Speaker 1: rules as they are written, um and as we have them,

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Speaker 1: then I don't see what the big controversy is, Right,

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00:27:14,400 --> 00:27:16,679
Speaker 1: it was a boxed call, it was a block, and

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00:27:17,000 --> 00:27:19,720
Speaker 1: so it eventually got called the block. Then then let's

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Speaker 1: get to the miss free throw four seconds remaining, four

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Speaker 1: seconds remaining in the game. Um, you know, like two

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Speaker 1: guys who escape criticism, George Hill, who is a very

508
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Speaker 1: good free throw shooter. And there's there's a difference between

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Speaker 1: missing a free throw. Hey, you miss one around and

510
00:27:34,880 --> 00:27:37,280
Speaker 1: out hits the back rim. You know, it looks like

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Speaker 1: right to leave it that short after making your first one.

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Speaker 1: That's a that's pressure, that's that's a choke job. And

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Speaker 1: then Katie doesn't box out. Now Katie said, like I

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Speaker 1: need to do a better job of rebounding or try

515
00:27:49,160 --> 00:27:54,400
Speaker 1: and box out at all. Um, But uh Jr. Trying

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Speaker 1: to convince the world that he thought of the time.

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Speaker 1: There's not a lictator in America who thinks he said,

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Speaker 1: I thought it was tied. Well, that's It's it's a

519
00:28:06,680 --> 00:28:12,000
Speaker 1: situation where the more interesting mistake, the more inexcusable mistakes,

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Speaker 1: then gets conflated with the uh, the more damaging mistake.

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Speaker 1: But when you look at it, what's more damaging, what's

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Speaker 1: more damaging is George Hill who could win the game

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Speaker 1: right there, He could win the game of the free throw.

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Speaker 1: Missing the free throw. Jr. Smith is a terrible shooter

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Speaker 1: within the paint, He's not good. If he had known

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Speaker 1: the actual score, then he's coming back up with it,

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Speaker 1: and Kevin Duran at seven ft tall, is either going

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00:28:34,400 --> 00:28:38,160
Speaker 1: to block, everybody's gonna miss. So, yeah, it was inexcusable.

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Speaker 1: It was basketball negligence, and so we're all going to

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Speaker 1: make him the goat and mock him rightfully. So, but

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Speaker 1: it didn't actually matter. I would contend it didn't actually

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Speaker 1: shift the probabilities that much of the game. And yeah,

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Speaker 1: you could say Lebron was open, But let me tell you,

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Speaker 1: if if j R. Smith knew the score of the game, uh,

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Speaker 1: he wouldn't have even gotten out there and seeing Lebron.

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Speaker 1: He only saw Lebron because he ran away from the

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Speaker 1: paint because he thought that he thought the game was

538
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Speaker 1: you thought the coupit are winning. It's larous. Yeah, he

539
00:29:02,920 --> 00:29:07,000
Speaker 1: clearly clearly did. Um. Okay, let's get to the actual gameplay.

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Speaker 1: I thought I thought the game plan was a masterpiece

541
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Speaker 1: from Tyler. Right, be super super physical with the three scores,

542
00:29:14,960 --> 00:29:18,760
Speaker 1: and then whoever's guarding the fifth guy for the Warriors.

543
00:29:18,840 --> 00:29:21,680
Speaker 1: You're in help, and then put Lebron James and Draymond

544
00:29:21,680 --> 00:29:24,320
Speaker 1: Green and dare him to shoot the basketball. You're in help.

545
00:29:24,680 --> 00:29:28,400
Speaker 1: It allowed Lebron to catch his breath defensively and allowed

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Speaker 1: and really, you know, ran Golden State off the three

547
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Speaker 1: point line. I thought the game plan was really good.

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Speaker 1: I guess the question becomes is that replicable going forward

549
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Speaker 1: in the series. It was. It was a really good

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Speaker 1: game plan. I'm sorry that my infant son is taking

551
00:29:43,720 --> 00:29:46,880
Speaker 1: any weird noises in the background. It's actually it's actually amazing.

552
00:29:47,280 --> 00:29:54,479
Speaker 1: What's his name? His name is Asher? And how old's Asher? Asher?

553
00:29:54,640 --> 00:29:59,040
Speaker 1: Seven weeks old? So I between this, oh, nine weeks?

554
00:29:59,120 --> 00:30:01,000
Speaker 1: My wife just correct, man, Well, now I'm in trouble.

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00:30:01,320 --> 00:30:05,320
Speaker 1: Uh he's nine weeks old. So between the the NBA

556
00:30:05,480 --> 00:30:07,280
Speaker 1: vitals and this, I'm not getting a lot of sleep.

557
00:30:07,400 --> 00:30:10,080
Speaker 1: But it's all right. It's honestly, it's pretty sweet. And

558
00:30:10,160 --> 00:30:11,840
Speaker 1: then you're like, no, I'll do the late night feetings,

559
00:30:11,840 --> 00:30:14,240
Speaker 1: no problem. You go to bed. Meanwhile, you're watching the

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Speaker 1: gate exactly exactly well on the game plan. Uh yeah,

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Speaker 1: I think that it's replicable in some ways. I gotta say,

562
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Speaker 1: the Calves played really well. Their shot quality, those fancy

563
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Speaker 1: metrics we have for how how the quality of shots

564
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Speaker 1: versus did you make them? They got quality shots. They're

565
00:30:32,360 --> 00:30:34,520
Speaker 1: offense did really well, and I sometimes wonder if they're

566
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Speaker 1: a little underrated. I think maybe, in order to burnish

567
00:30:37,400 --> 00:30:41,200
Speaker 1: Lebron's legacy, were exaggerating the extent to which this team

568
00:30:41,280 --> 00:30:43,520
Speaker 1: is bad. It's a lot like the old Calves teams

569
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Speaker 1: that we've seen in this matchup. Instead of having a

570
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Speaker 1: Kyrie Irving an offensive guy, you've got a defensive guy

571
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Speaker 1: in George Chill. And yeah, I'd rather have the Kyrie

572
00:30:51,640 --> 00:30:56,360
Speaker 1: Irving iteration, but it's not altogether that much different. Uh So,

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Speaker 1: I thought it was a good game plan. It's a

574
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Speaker 1: solid team at the team that gives the Warrior's problems

575
00:31:00,640 --> 00:31:03,120
Speaker 1: because they beat him up. And also on the other side,

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Speaker 1: I think the Warriors don't know quite what to do

577
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Speaker 1: on pick and roll action with Lebron. They love switching everything,

578
00:31:08,560 --> 00:31:10,800
Speaker 1: but you can't really switch everything against Lebron on the

579
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Speaker 1: way you can against the Cris baul Or or a

580
00:31:13,160 --> 00:31:15,520
Speaker 1: James Harden. It's just too much for Steph Curry to

581
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Speaker 1: deal with. And so that aspect is also replicable where

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Speaker 1: I'm not sure how the Warriors are going to solve

583
00:31:21,240 --> 00:31:24,200
Speaker 1: that particular issue. I think it's I think it's fascinating.

584
00:31:24,280 --> 00:31:26,040
Speaker 1: I thought it was going to be a close series.

585
00:31:26,480 --> 00:31:29,480
Speaker 1: I still thought the Warriors would win. Um, what do

586
00:31:29,520 --> 00:31:31,960
Speaker 1: you think you know? Coming in? What did you think?

587
00:31:33,520 --> 00:31:37,600
Speaker 1: I thought everybody was talking five games, and my suspicion

588
00:31:37,680 --> 00:31:41,000
Speaker 1: was more towards six games. I mean, I try not

589
00:31:41,040 --> 00:31:42,440
Speaker 1: to do, you know what. I try not to do

590
00:31:42,520 --> 00:31:44,800
Speaker 1: predictions and try to be like Brian Windhorse, because here's

591
00:31:44,840 --> 00:31:47,880
Speaker 1: the thing, we writers, We have such little esteem in

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Speaker 1: the eyes of the fan. Why give them something tangible

593
00:31:50,640 --> 00:31:53,080
Speaker 1: to bash us with? Right? Why give them just a

594
00:31:53,160 --> 00:31:56,040
Speaker 1: tangible You predicted this and it was actually that to

595
00:31:56,160 --> 00:31:58,200
Speaker 1: hit us over the head with. So I normally try

596
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Speaker 1: to evade it. But my sense of things was more

597
00:32:01,280 --> 00:32:03,440
Speaker 1: in line with you, in part because I know people

598
00:32:03,440 --> 00:32:05,600
Speaker 1: will hammer home before All Stars for old Stars were

599
00:32:05,600 --> 00:32:09,000
Speaker 1: all Stars. But Andrea Goodala is a really good and

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00:32:09,040 --> 00:32:11,960
Speaker 1: he's be very important to the team. And this is

601
00:32:12,000 --> 00:32:14,840
Speaker 1: a team that, yes has an embarrassment of riches as

602
00:32:14,840 --> 00:32:16,960
Speaker 1: far as talent goes, but the whole is not greater

603
00:32:17,000 --> 00:32:20,280
Speaker 1: than the sum of its parts. It's never really cohered

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00:32:20,360 --> 00:32:22,760
Speaker 1: in the way maybe people thought it would. So not

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00:32:22,880 --> 00:32:26,080
Speaker 1: having Igodala there does make a difference, especially since he's

606
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Speaker 1: their best defensive guy on that Lebron James Fellow, who

607
00:32:29,720 --> 00:32:32,000
Speaker 1: is quite important in this whole rick of roll of

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Speaker 1: the series. I think the other part is how does

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Speaker 1: how does Cleveland bounce back from this? Right? Like I'm

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Speaker 1: I'm reading this is a pretty good two little tweets

611
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Speaker 1: here and essentially says what I've been saying the entire show.

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Speaker 1: Ethan Strauss is our guest from the athletics, does a

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Speaker 1: great job, and he's also bouncing his young baby Asher

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Speaker 1: on his knee. Uh you know, put post post feeding.

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Speaker 1: It's the doug at the show. So Roussilo says, I

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Speaker 1: think he said, Uh, I think the horrible things that

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Speaker 1: people are pointing out the calls the only reason the

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00:33:01,760 --> 00:33:04,800
Speaker 1: Calves lost. Make a free throw. Try not to forget

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Speaker 1: the score when playing in the game. Bill Simmons adds on,

620
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Speaker 1: don't give up an easy three point play the staff

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Speaker 1: up to in the last thirty seconds, make the go

622
00:33:12,880 --> 00:33:16,320
Speaker 1: ahead free throw, remember the score, and don't completely cave

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Speaker 1: in in overtime. So I guess the question is if

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Speaker 1: you feel like you had one and then you gave

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Speaker 1: it away, how do you bounce back from it? Um Man,

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Speaker 1: Maybe you could better answer that one because we've seen

627
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Speaker 1: teams remember that Clippers Spurs series or the Clippers had

628
00:33:32,320 --> 00:33:37,520
Speaker 1: just these devastating losses in that series, and uh, they

629
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Speaker 1: had that DeAndre Jordan's gaff right there was almost similar

630
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Speaker 1: to the j R. Smith gaff where Chris Paul screaming

631
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Speaker 1: at them. But they did come back and they won

632
00:33:45,240 --> 00:33:48,880
Speaker 1: that series. Because maybe you're inspired by that frustration, um

633
00:33:48,960 --> 00:33:50,720
Speaker 1: and that pain, and you still have a chance to

634
00:33:50,800 --> 00:33:54,320
Speaker 1: correct things. So we've seen we've seen such things happen. Now,

635
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Speaker 1: what I would be a little bit worried about from

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Speaker 1: a Cleveland Keller's perspective is that I think that the

637
00:33:59,280 --> 00:34:02,280
Speaker 1: Warriors received enough evidence that Mike causing to go away

638
00:34:02,560 --> 00:34:04,440
Speaker 1: from some of the lineups that don't work and start

639
00:34:04,520 --> 00:34:06,080
Speaker 1: using a line of to do work. They got an

640
00:34:06,080 --> 00:34:09,760
Speaker 1: object lesson in you know what works, uh the overtime

641
00:34:09,800 --> 00:34:12,160
Speaker 1: with Sean Livingston and deanre Godala role. You know it

642
00:34:12,160 --> 00:34:15,000
Speaker 1: doesn't work. Javon Looney in that role in the fourth quarter.

643
00:34:15,400 --> 00:34:17,080
Speaker 1: I think that's gonna be a lot tougher for the

644
00:34:17,120 --> 00:34:19,680
Speaker 1: has to deal with going forward, and they got their

645
00:34:19,680 --> 00:34:23,359
Speaker 1: shot against After the lineups last night, I tend to great,

646
00:34:23,520 --> 00:34:27,040
Speaker 1: What's what's going on with k D Man. That's a

647
00:34:27,080 --> 00:34:29,680
Speaker 1: great question now, isn't it. He has these games where

648
00:34:29,680 --> 00:34:33,960
Speaker 1: it's just perplexing. I in the game six against the

649
00:34:34,040 --> 00:34:36,719
Speaker 1: Rockets of the Warriors one. Yeah, the Warriors eventually ran

650
00:34:36,719 --> 00:34:38,400
Speaker 1: away with that one, but I ended up writing just

651
00:34:38,400 --> 00:34:40,760
Speaker 1: on the book fuggling first half word, he wasn't playing

652
00:34:40,840 --> 00:34:44,520
Speaker 1: defense and where you might have attributed five three pointers

653
00:34:44,520 --> 00:34:47,440
Speaker 1: from the Rockets, just fully on Kevin Durant not matching

654
00:34:47,520 --> 00:34:50,239
Speaker 1: up with guys, not getting back in transition and and

655
00:34:50,320 --> 00:34:53,400
Speaker 1: just doing the basics of the job. And it is

656
00:34:53,600 --> 00:34:57,400
Speaker 1: completely confounding. And you know, I'm glad he admitted to

657
00:34:57,480 --> 00:34:59,960
Speaker 1: it on the on the rebound, but that's happening in general.

658
00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:01,839
Speaker 1: He's getting pushed around on rebounds. I know he said

659
00:35:02,160 --> 00:35:04,479
Speaker 1: during the Rocket series that that p J. Tucker tends

660
00:35:04,480 --> 00:35:06,680
Speaker 1: to elbow him in the back, and that's that's part

661
00:35:06,719 --> 00:35:08,920
Speaker 1: of it. But you would just expect better as far

662
00:35:09,000 --> 00:35:11,960
Speaker 1: as doing the things you almost take for granted. He's

663
00:35:11,960 --> 00:35:14,440
Speaker 1: not doing the things that you take for granted the superstar,

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Speaker 1: Uh it does. And I thought that he did a

665
00:35:17,719 --> 00:35:20,320
Speaker 1: very good job last Finals when he was guarding Lebron.

666
00:35:20,400 --> 00:35:21,719
Speaker 1: But I don't think he did a good job in

667
00:35:21,800 --> 00:35:23,680
Speaker 1: defense last night. Some of that might be the pick

668
00:35:23,719 --> 00:35:26,400
Speaker 1: and roll coverage that they're sussing out and let's not

669
00:35:26,440 --> 00:35:28,400
Speaker 1: switch everything and they have to figure out the communication.

670
00:35:28,480 --> 00:35:30,759
Speaker 1: But I don't have a good theory for you on

671
00:35:30,840 --> 00:35:32,560
Speaker 1: why he's not doing what he should be doing. But

672
00:35:32,600 --> 00:35:36,160
Speaker 1: he's not doing it. Yeah. My theory is, look, they're

673
00:35:36,200 --> 00:35:38,440
Speaker 1: being people are being allowed to be really physical with him.

674
00:35:38,520 --> 00:35:41,840
Speaker 1: I also think, um, I think you know, Ryan Hollands

675
00:35:41,880 --> 00:35:44,360
Speaker 1: joined us rearlier and I said this, Uh, look, they

676
00:35:44,440 --> 00:35:46,759
Speaker 1: got some better matchups this year. Last year, Lebron had

677
00:35:46,800 --> 00:35:49,759
Speaker 1: to guard him because of their personnel. This year, you

678
00:35:49,760 --> 00:35:51,480
Speaker 1: can put you have Green on him, he can put

679
00:35:51,600 --> 00:35:53,319
Speaker 1: Nance on him a little bit, you know, you can

680
00:35:53,360 --> 00:35:56,120
Speaker 1: put you can put Tristan on him. Um and and

681
00:35:56,120 --> 00:35:58,480
Speaker 1: then Lebron King Guarden as well, so you have It's

682
00:35:58,480 --> 00:36:00,879
Speaker 1: a lot like what the Calves had last year, which

683
00:36:00,920 --> 00:36:03,200
Speaker 1: was a lot more guys that could guard Lebron. They

684
00:36:03,239 --> 00:36:04,719
Speaker 1: have they have a lot more guys that can guard

685
00:36:04,800 --> 00:36:07,959
Speaker 1: him and our physical and Jeff Green obviously knows this game. Yeah,

686
00:36:07,960 --> 00:36:09,560
Speaker 1: this is one like this is this is good, but

687
00:36:09,640 --> 00:36:11,359
Speaker 1: you actually notice and you know the game and you're

688
00:36:11,360 --> 00:36:13,799
Speaker 1: not just going by reputation. It's funny you would think, oh,

689
00:36:13,840 --> 00:36:17,320
Speaker 1: you wouldn't want Lebron to Garden. He completely torched Lebron

690
00:36:17,400 --> 00:36:19,600
Speaker 1: last year in the finals. You look at his highlight reel.

691
00:36:19,920 --> 00:36:21,920
Speaker 1: It's coming at the expensive Lebron and it's not an

692
00:36:21,920 --> 00:36:25,520
Speaker 1: indictment of Lebron. It's just Lebron cannot do everything on

693
00:36:25,640 --> 00:36:29,320
Speaker 1: offense while also playing defense at this at this particular age.

694
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Speaker 1: So I almost wonder if to get to get Katie going,

695
00:36:32,560 --> 00:36:34,480
Speaker 1: if they don't want to run more pick and roll

696
00:36:34,480 --> 00:36:36,360
Speaker 1: and try to get Lebron switched on to him. I

697
00:36:36,360 --> 00:36:40,160
Speaker 1: know that might sound crazy, uh to the casual fan,

698
00:36:40,239 --> 00:36:43,080
Speaker 1: that you would want Lebron guarding you, but I think

699
00:36:43,080 --> 00:36:45,600
Speaker 1: there could be a benefit to getting Grant going and

700
00:36:45,640 --> 00:36:51,920
Speaker 1: also tiring out Lebron. Yeah, completely, And then yeah, and

701
00:36:51,920 --> 00:36:54,040
Speaker 1: then I think, you know, and then I think off,

702
00:36:54,280 --> 00:36:56,440
Speaker 1: I think that will help them on on defense as well.

703
00:36:56,480 --> 00:36:58,160
Speaker 1: And I think they're they're gonna have to start double

704
00:36:58,200 --> 00:37:00,719
Speaker 1: teaming Lebron at different point in time in order to

705
00:37:00,719 --> 00:37:02,680
Speaker 1: get the ball out of his hands, make somebody else

706
00:37:02,719 --> 00:37:05,239
Speaker 1: make a play, not just you know, not just make

707
00:37:05,280 --> 00:37:07,680
Speaker 1: a shot. He obviously will will pass into a shooter.

708
00:37:08,000 --> 00:37:10,840
Speaker 1: But but they gotta they gotta occasionally blitz him and

709
00:37:10,880 --> 00:37:12,360
Speaker 1: get the ball ahead. They got to vary some of

710
00:37:12,400 --> 00:37:16,160
Speaker 1: their coverage because it becomes all too predictable. I I

711
00:37:16,239 --> 00:37:19,799
Speaker 1: completely agree they need need to vary it, but they

712
00:37:19,840 --> 00:37:22,839
Speaker 1: also need to know what they're doing when they vary it. Um.

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00:37:22,920 --> 00:37:25,520
Speaker 1: That's that's more or less the key, the key for

714
00:37:25,520 --> 00:37:27,399
Speaker 1: them because they were not on the same page last night.

715
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Speaker 1: In a lot of possessions. I entered the series. I

716
00:37:30,280 --> 00:37:33,960
Speaker 1: entered the series thinking, you know, I heard Mike wilbon

717
00:37:34,640 --> 00:37:37,920
Speaker 1: Um with Dan Patrick and he said, hey, you know,

718
00:37:38,040 --> 00:37:42,480
Speaker 1: unless you know, something crazy happens, there is no real

719
00:37:42,560 --> 00:37:46,000
Speaker 1: takeaway if they lose this series, because they he expects

720
00:37:46,000 --> 00:37:48,440
Speaker 1: it to lose the series. I have a completely different

721
00:37:48,560 --> 00:37:51,319
Speaker 1: level of respect for Lebron and kind of the zen

722
00:37:51,480 --> 00:37:54,879
Speaker 1: by which he's playing the development of his offensive game.

723
00:37:55,000 --> 00:37:58,080
Speaker 1: His jump shot the first three chords last night was great.

724
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Speaker 1: I think there's a ton to take away from this

725
00:38:01,080 --> 00:38:04,439
Speaker 1: win or lose based upon how he plays and how

726
00:38:04,480 --> 00:38:07,279
Speaker 1: his game has evolved. Last night was a was the

727
00:38:07,280 --> 00:38:10,520
Speaker 1: type of performers I haven't seen since Jordan. What are

728
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Speaker 1: your thoughts on how we can change how we view

729
00:38:13,680 --> 00:38:16,680
Speaker 1: Lebron based upon how he's played, not just the fact

730
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Speaker 1: that he might lose to a superior team. I think

731
00:38:20,920 --> 00:38:22,959
Speaker 1: there's something to that, and it also might just speak

732
00:38:23,000 --> 00:38:26,040
Speaker 1: to the era that we're in where we we have

733
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Speaker 1: more of a sense now that you can play really

734
00:38:29,160 --> 00:38:31,440
Speaker 1: well and lose, that you can win the psion without

735
00:38:31,440 --> 00:38:33,680
Speaker 1: winning a bunch of games in baseball just based on

736
00:38:33,719 --> 00:38:35,799
Speaker 1: your d r A. So there's a lot to be

737
00:38:35,880 --> 00:38:38,520
Speaker 1: gained from actually coming out and performing, and we're not

738
00:38:38,560 --> 00:38:40,000
Speaker 1: just going to hang it around your neck that you

739
00:38:40,080 --> 00:38:44,120
Speaker 1: lost the series. So reputationally, Lebron could find himself in

740
00:38:44,120 --> 00:38:47,040
Speaker 1: a situation where he might win finals MVP even if

741
00:38:47,040 --> 00:38:49,879
Speaker 1: he loses a series that nearly happened when you coold

742
00:38:49,880 --> 00:38:54,200
Speaker 1: all of one finals MVP in and I think that would, uh,

743
00:38:54,320 --> 00:38:56,400
Speaker 1: that would be pretty good for him in the in

744
00:38:56,440 --> 00:38:58,000
Speaker 1: the grand scheme of things, and he's kind of in

745
00:38:58,000 --> 00:39:00,479
Speaker 1: a good position. It's not a good position for the series,

746
00:39:00,480 --> 00:39:03,279
Speaker 1: because in a good position where it's all upside, where uh,

747
00:39:03,480 --> 00:39:06,760
Speaker 1: you will be credited for exceeding expectations and not blamed

748
00:39:06,920 --> 00:39:09,319
Speaker 1: if the calves are down in plants. Okay, a couple

749
00:39:09,320 --> 00:39:11,920
Speaker 1: of things I need to get to. Um, how happy

750
00:39:11,960 --> 00:39:15,640
Speaker 1: is Javelle McGhee that j R. Smith pulled the Javelle

751
00:39:15,680 --> 00:39:20,080
Speaker 1: McGhee because otherwise from replaying Javelle McGee's miss dunk over

752
00:39:20,160 --> 00:39:23,040
Speaker 1: and over and over again, Oh man, it was just

753
00:39:23,560 --> 00:39:25,480
Speaker 1: it's so funny with those two guys that what happened

754
00:39:25,480 --> 00:39:27,920
Speaker 1: was almost a satire of who they are, and with

755
00:39:28,000 --> 00:39:30,520
Speaker 1: JaVale it was going so well. That was the other

756
00:39:30,560 --> 00:39:33,600
Speaker 1: thing I was saying. I was watching in the media

757
00:39:33,680 --> 00:39:36,680
Speaker 1: area behind the court, um, and I was I just

758
00:39:36,760 --> 00:39:38,839
Speaker 1: kept saying to the guy next to me, Uh, this

759
00:39:38,880 --> 00:39:41,360
Speaker 1: has found money. Steve's got a pull them. Steve's got

760
00:39:41,440 --> 00:39:43,040
Speaker 1: to pull them. He's got to pull them. And I

761
00:39:43,080 --> 00:39:45,000
Speaker 1: didn't expect it. Hey, I think you might have been

762
00:39:45,120 --> 00:39:47,080
Speaker 1: plus eight on the game, or you might have had

763
00:39:47,080 --> 00:39:50,600
Speaker 1: a pretty good run in there despite that humiliating dunk

764
00:39:50,719 --> 00:39:53,279
Speaker 1: that me was was that was that fatigue Possibly that

765
00:39:53,320 --> 00:39:55,440
Speaker 1: could have been fatigue in away or just I just

766
00:39:55,480 --> 00:39:57,319
Speaker 1: think he got lost. I just think he got lost

767
00:39:57,320 --> 00:39:58,560
Speaker 1: as to where he was in the court. I mean,

768
00:39:58,600 --> 00:40:00,560
Speaker 1: I think I think it happens. I just think that,

769
00:40:00,680 --> 00:40:05,000
Speaker 1: you know, it just happened to happen to to Javel McGhee. Um,

770
00:40:05,120 --> 00:40:07,319
Speaker 1: do you have any idea what's going on with Kevin

771
00:40:07,360 --> 00:40:11,080
Speaker 1: Love's hair? Because that is can can we have formed

772
00:40:11,120 --> 00:40:15,359
Speaker 1: some sort of investigation? What is that is that? Hey? Man?

773
00:40:15,400 --> 00:40:17,320
Speaker 1: For all I know, that's cool? I mean, was that

774
00:40:17,400 --> 00:40:19,759
Speaker 1: a cross sade? What do we what do we call that?

775
00:40:20,000 --> 00:40:21,520
Speaker 1: It might be cool? For all I know, I'm a

776
00:40:21,640 --> 00:40:23,600
Speaker 1: dad now, I don't know what's cool, So I don't

777
00:40:23,600 --> 00:40:25,879
Speaker 1: want to hate on it. Yeah, I felt it felt

778
00:40:25,920 --> 00:40:30,279
Speaker 1: like either a flow by or its kind of like, yes,

779
00:40:30,400 --> 00:40:32,480
Speaker 1: maybe went flow by. Maybe he just like, hey, I

780
00:40:32,600 --> 00:40:35,520
Speaker 1: was bored in the hotel room. He's he's watched everything

781
00:40:35,520 --> 00:40:38,600
Speaker 1: he could possibly watch on Netflix and Amazon Prime and Hulu,

782
00:40:38,680 --> 00:40:40,279
Speaker 1: and so he just started just kind of going to

783
00:40:40,320 --> 00:40:42,160
Speaker 1: work on his own hair, and he's like, damn, I

784
00:40:42,200 --> 00:40:43,640
Speaker 1: have no idea how to fade it. So I'm not

785
00:40:43,719 --> 00:40:47,240
Speaker 1: even gonna try. I'm just shocked about the flowby reference.

786
00:40:47,280 --> 00:40:49,480
Speaker 1: I I might might dad bought a flow be back

787
00:40:49,520 --> 00:40:51,719
Speaker 1: in the day. I had a few Floby haircuts, and

788
00:40:51,719 --> 00:40:53,120
Speaker 1: you know what, that might even be an insult with

789
00:40:53,160 --> 00:40:55,080
Speaker 1: the flow but you might get sued by the makers

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00:40:55,080 --> 00:40:58,040
Speaker 1: of Flow by because of the haircut that Kevin Love has,

791
00:40:58,120 --> 00:41:01,719
Speaker 1: So uh yeah, you know, shout out Floby. I hope

792
00:41:01,719 --> 00:41:04,439
Speaker 1: they're still going strong. And as far as what Kevin

793
00:41:04,480 --> 00:41:07,880
Speaker 1: wants doing with is there, I guess just keeping it interesting. Okay,

794
00:41:07,920 --> 00:41:11,480
Speaker 1: so you started the series, um, without really a prediction.

795
00:41:11,960 --> 00:41:16,280
Speaker 1: What do you think now? I still I still don't

796
00:41:16,320 --> 00:41:19,600
Speaker 1: necessarily have a prediction because I'm trying to be coy

797
00:41:19,640 --> 00:41:22,240
Speaker 1: and I'm trying to be cool like that. Um. But

798
00:41:22,360 --> 00:41:24,120
Speaker 1: as far as what I think now, I think the

799
00:41:24,160 --> 00:41:26,480
Speaker 1: Warriors dodged the bullet. I think they're very happy to

800
00:41:26,600 --> 00:41:29,239
Speaker 1: have won a lucky one. Sometimes it's better to be

801
00:41:29,320 --> 00:41:33,680
Speaker 1: lucky than good. And I think, hey, beyond just winning

802
00:41:33,680 --> 00:41:36,640
Speaker 1: a game, it's I think it was good for the

803
00:41:36,640 --> 00:41:39,440
Speaker 1: Warriors in the sense that they when I talked to

804
00:41:39,480 --> 00:41:42,320
Speaker 1: them after the game, the coaches were actually odd be happy.

805
00:41:42,480 --> 00:41:45,000
Speaker 1: Usually they're they're mad when they mess around. They they

806
00:41:45,160 --> 00:41:47,600
Speaker 1: they squander opportunities, but they had a sense of the

807
00:41:47,640 --> 00:41:50,239
Speaker 1: first games of Feelout game, we didn't have our coverages right.

808
00:41:50,680 --> 00:41:54,520
Speaker 1: So I think it's ultimately better for the Warriors beyond

809
00:41:54,560 --> 00:41:57,000
Speaker 1: just winning the game. At the same time, I might

810
00:41:57,040 --> 00:41:59,080
Speaker 1: have a little bit more respect for Lebron the Cat's

811
00:41:59,120 --> 00:42:00,840
Speaker 1: chances in this the most people as you do. So

812
00:42:00,880 --> 00:42:03,560
Speaker 1: I'm headging like crazy. I'm giving you a very unsatisfying answer,

813
00:42:03,600 --> 00:42:06,320
Speaker 1: and I apologize for that. No, I'm you're you're leaving

814
00:42:06,320 --> 00:42:08,360
Speaker 1: it up to Hey, there's a lot of bast like

815
00:42:08,600 --> 00:42:10,520
Speaker 1: we all think that every basketball game is going to

816
00:42:10,600 --> 00:42:13,160
Speaker 1: be the same, and we all completely forget that even

817
00:42:13,239 --> 00:42:15,759
Speaker 1: last year there were some very very close games, even

818
00:42:15,840 --> 00:42:17,839
Speaker 1: at the final, even at the final score was four

819
00:42:17,880 --> 00:42:20,799
Speaker 1: games to one. Within the context of the series, it

820
00:42:20,880 --> 00:42:23,720
Speaker 1: wasn't necessarily wasn't every they win every game by twenty points.

821
00:42:24,080 --> 00:42:28,200
Speaker 1: We seeing in sports where we conflate probability with inevitability.

822
00:42:28,239 --> 00:42:30,520
Speaker 1: I don't know why, but we just skip ahead that

823
00:42:30,680 --> 00:42:33,360
Speaker 1: if somebody has an eight percent chance of doing something,

824
00:42:33,800 --> 00:42:37,520
Speaker 1: we act as though twenty is impossible. And I'm just

825
00:42:37,520 --> 00:42:39,680
Speaker 1: not of that mentality, really, you know, I think that

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00:42:39,880 --> 00:42:41,839
Speaker 1: the Calves are a long shot, but a long shot

827
00:42:41,880 --> 00:42:44,160
Speaker 1: doesn't mean that's the four johnclusion. And I think if

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00:42:44,160 --> 00:42:46,280
Speaker 1: you look at the ratings for this one, America agrees.

829
00:42:46,320 --> 00:42:48,000
Speaker 1: America is into the series. Even a lot of the

830
00:42:48,239 --> 00:42:51,319
Speaker 1: sports writers. Boo boo it great stuff. Ethan Strouss, get

831
00:42:51,360 --> 00:42:54,760
Speaker 1: back to caring for young Asher. Congratulations to your wife.

832
00:42:54,800 --> 00:42:58,400
Speaker 1: She did all the work for the last eleven twelve months.

833
00:42:58,400 --> 00:43:00,560
Speaker 1: Now since it's nine weeks and you've you've whatchard that thing.

834
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Speaker 1: Thanks for joining us. She's the thing. Thanks for having me,

835
00:43:07,280 --> 00:43:11,120
Speaker 1: all right. I hope you really enjoyed the All Ball Podcast. Remember,

836
00:43:11,320 --> 00:43:13,840
Speaker 1: I believe this is gonna be a good series. I

837
00:43:13,960 --> 00:43:16,799
Speaker 1: just do. I think there are matchup problems for the

838
00:43:16,800 --> 00:43:20,640
Speaker 1: Golden State Warriors in that you know, you can only

839
00:43:20,719 --> 00:43:23,040
Speaker 1: can't hide Staff and you can't hide Kevin Kevon Looney.

840
00:43:23,080 --> 00:43:25,120
Speaker 1: I think they'll change some of the rotations. Will be

841
00:43:25,200 --> 00:43:28,359
Speaker 1: times in which they double team and try and uh

842
00:43:28,400 --> 00:43:30,480
Speaker 1: and try and trap Lebron James and make other people

843
00:43:30,480 --> 00:43:33,600
Speaker 1: handle the basketball, and like, look, Draymond is gonna have

844
00:43:33,640 --> 00:43:35,840
Speaker 1: to step up and take some more shots because playing

845
00:43:35,880 --> 00:43:38,120
Speaker 1: three on five is really really hard. There will be

846
00:43:38,160 --> 00:43:39,960
Speaker 1: some other actions that they put in, but this is

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Speaker 1: the same a similar defensive philosophy. He saw to Houston,

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Speaker 1: make make two guys beat you that can't score, And

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Speaker 1: you know, Looney made a couple of layups and dunks.

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Speaker 1: I thought Livingstone game a good little lift. But those

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Speaker 1: guys are scoring for a reason. That's almost a win

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Speaker 1: for for the Cavs. When other guys score, Kevin Durant's

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Speaker 1: gonna have to play better, gonna have to be tougher.

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Speaker 1: I think he's a little bit tired, not just from

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Speaker 1: the previous series, but playing this much defense and the

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Speaker 1: physicality of a guy like Jeff Green. As you've heard

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Speaker 1: several of our guests talk about, the Calves have better

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Speaker 1: matchups this year for Kevin Durant than they had going

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Speaker 1: back to last year. The opposite is true for Lebron James.

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Speaker 1: Last year, the Warriors had more guys to match up

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Speaker 1: with Lebron than they have this year. And of course

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Speaker 1: he continues to exploit when Steph Curry guards it's gonna

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Speaker 1: be interesting. I still think the Warriors win the series,

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Speaker 1: but I think it's gonna be a harder series than

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Speaker 1: most people let on before it ever began. I hope

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