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Speaker 2: But enough with that, let's get to the show. Good morning, everybody,

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Speaker 2: Happy Tuesday, have an amazing show for everybody today. What

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Speaker 2: do we have, Krystal, It's.

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Speaker 1: Right, a lot of big developments, especially on the Trump

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Speaker 1: staffing front. Neo cons quite happy with some of the

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Speaker 1: recent picks. We'll break all of those down for you.

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Speaker 1: We're also going to take a look at the spending

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Speaker 1: of the Kamala Harris campaign, which was wild. We will

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Speaker 1: show you some of the craziest things and what they

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Speaker 1: paid for them. Libs are also cooking over on TikTok

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Speaker 1: with some major election conspiracies that we wanted to share

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Speaker 1: with you as well. So yeah, that's a good one.

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Speaker 1: We've got a look at the media. Liberal media really

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Speaker 1: suffering in the wake of Kamala's loss actually some surprising outlets,

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Speaker 1: media rebalancing. Also, Chris Wallace making the choice to leave

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Speaker 1: SEE and become a streamers pretty funny, Okay, pretty.

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Speaker 3: Interesting, Yes, indeed.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Zogbie is going to join us both to talk

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Speaker 1: me and Donald Trump. And the responses are quite interesting.

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Speaker 1: A lot of them have to do frankly with Gaza,

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Speaker 1: And one of the things that we haven't spent a

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Speaker 1: Yang was really on board with Dean Phillips. He was

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Speaker 2: Andrew Yang Gang. So, like Chrystal said, we're getting a

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Speaker 2: and put this up there on the screen. This is

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Speaker 2: from the New York Times. Everybody, keep in mind this

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Speaker 2: is not yet one hundred percent official, but Donald Trump

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Speaker 1: Basically his criticism was that the Biden administration was wholly

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Speaker 2: They're already on the downswing, right Nobody at this point,

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Speaker 1: Obviously, Stephonic made her name by inciting this fake anti

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Speaker 1: you know, so yeah, now that things seem very different

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Speaker 1: on Ukraine, and you recognize you've got to sound a

430
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Speaker 1: little bit of a different note if you're gonna have

431
00:20:52,359 --> 00:20:54,600
Speaker 1: any chance at you know, power within a Trump administration.

432
00:20:54,880 --> 00:20:59,000
Speaker 1: You've changed your tune, but the ideology is in there

433
00:20:59,080 --> 00:21:03,000
Speaker 1: deep again is an Aid former Aid to Cheney and Rumsfeld.

434
00:21:03,080 --> 00:21:04,960
Speaker 1: That's who we're talking about, and there is no shift

435
00:21:05,240 --> 00:21:08,560
Speaker 1: in terms of his ideological views. The other thing that

436
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Speaker 1: just a quick note is the House has been called

437
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Speaker 1: officially for Republicans.

438
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Speaker 3: Now, would do you know what the final margin was?

439
00:21:16,200 --> 00:21:17,680
Speaker 2: Fifteen two seats.

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Speaker 3: It's very narrow.

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Speaker 1: Okay, it's a very narrow margin that they have, and

442
00:21:22,320 --> 00:21:25,880
Speaker 1: with Waltz and Stephanic, you're taking two House members out

443
00:21:25,960 --> 00:21:30,080
Speaker 1: and making that an even more narrow margin for Republicans.

444
00:21:30,400 --> 00:21:33,240
Speaker 1: And while Democrats, yes just got you know, she lacked

445
00:21:33,280 --> 00:21:36,440
Speaker 1: in a big national general election, they do really well

446
00:21:36,440 --> 00:21:39,200
Speaker 1: in special elections because now they are the party of

447
00:21:39,280 --> 00:21:42,200
Speaker 1: like high information, high turnout. I show up at every election,

448
00:21:42,320 --> 00:21:45,240
Speaker 1: every primary, whatever voters and plus the Democratic base is

449
00:21:45,240 --> 00:21:46,960
Speaker 1: going to be super pissed and ready to like show

450
00:21:47,040 --> 00:21:50,600
Speaker 1: up and try to resist this Trump administration. So you know,

451
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Speaker 1: I'm not sure the makeup exactly of either one of

452
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Speaker 1: these districts. But you have to think at least there's

453
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Speaker 1: some chance in New York and Florida that and it's

454
00:21:58,359 --> 00:22:01,040
Speaker 1: not like you know, super rural Florida either that there

455
00:22:01,040 --> 00:22:02,960
Speaker 1: could be a shot. There could be a risk for

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Speaker 1: one or both of these seats.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a good point. I will say I was

458
00:22:06,560 --> 00:22:10,120
Speaker 2: told by a source that the Defense secretary pick will

459
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Speaker 2: come sometime today. I don't know what it will be.

460
00:22:12,960 --> 00:22:14,359
Speaker 2: They said it would be surprised, So I don't know

461
00:22:14,400 --> 00:22:17,240
Speaker 2: if I don't know what that is, y you know,

462
00:22:17,359 --> 00:22:20,360
Speaker 2: I mean, at this point, I can hope I get surprises.

463
00:22:20,720 --> 00:22:24,159
Speaker 2: I would. I wasn't that surprised actually by Rubio the

464
00:22:24,600 --> 00:22:26,679
Speaker 2: well he was named as being in the running, right.

465
00:22:26,720 --> 00:22:28,959
Speaker 2: I was way more surprised by Waltz where he was

466
00:22:29,000 --> 00:22:30,680
Speaker 2: in the running. But I was like, oh man, he's

467
00:22:30,680 --> 00:22:32,720
Speaker 2: really going for it. In terms of the why those

468
00:22:32,760 --> 00:22:34,520
Speaker 2: two back to back, it was a little bit of

469
00:22:34,560 --> 00:22:37,480
Speaker 2: a gut punch. I actually think there is a I

470
00:22:37,480 --> 00:22:39,440
Speaker 2: will I'll give it like a ten percent chance that

471
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Speaker 2: Tulcy Gabber gets Secretary of Defense. I'm serious. Just that's

472
00:22:42,800 --> 00:22:46,720
Speaker 2: that's what was That's basically the way that I was looking.

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Speaker 3: I don't I wouldn't be surprised.

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00:22:48,840 --> 00:22:52,399
Speaker 2: I would be okay, ten percent, but you know, ninety

475
00:22:52,400 --> 00:22:54,760
Speaker 2: percent it will be somebody like Bill Haggerty or somebody

476
00:22:54,800 --> 00:22:57,000
Speaker 2: like that. Haggarty actually be pretty good. He's he's pretty

477
00:22:57,040 --> 00:23:00,440
Speaker 2: consistent on Ukraine. There are a few others where again

478
00:23:00,440 --> 00:23:02,600
Speaker 2: there's a lot of names out there. I'm not going

479
00:23:02,680 --> 00:23:04,960
Speaker 2: to be sure, but yeah, the fact that they told

480
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Speaker 2: me I would be very surprised, I was like, huh, okay,

481
00:23:07,480 --> 00:23:09,160
Speaker 2: I was like, who would I actually be surprised by?

482
00:23:09,200 --> 00:23:11,439
Speaker 2: I mean, really, Telsey's the only one I would be.

483
00:23:12,080 --> 00:23:14,240
Speaker 2: I would be like. I was like, I'd be like, wow,

484
00:23:14,600 --> 00:23:16,000
Speaker 2: if that were case, I would take her in a

485
00:23:16,040 --> 00:23:18,280
Speaker 2: heartbeat over any of these other people. So we'll see.

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Speaker 1: I just do think it's really, I don't know, darkly

487
00:23:25,119 --> 00:23:28,240
Speaker 1: funny the way that Trump made this big show of like, oh,

488
00:23:28,320 --> 00:23:30,120
Speaker 1: I'm not going to have Nicki Haley and I'm not

489
00:23:30,160 --> 00:23:33,360
Speaker 1: going to have Mike Pompeo, so that people who are

490
00:23:33,480 --> 00:23:36,080
Speaker 1: on the New Right who share your ideology be like, Okay,

491
00:23:36,240 --> 00:23:38,720
Speaker 1: like this looks like this is good, this is encouraging,

492
00:23:38,840 --> 00:23:42,200
Speaker 1: and then hours later is like instead I'm going to

493
00:23:42,480 --> 00:23:44,879
Speaker 1: have this group of neo cons who have the exact

494
00:23:44,920 --> 00:23:45,399
Speaker 1: same idea.

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Speaker 2: But left people are used to getting shpit on by

496
00:23:48,840 --> 00:23:51,200
Speaker 2: their coalition for the right people, you should get used

497
00:23:51,200 --> 00:23:53,439
Speaker 2: to it as well. All Right, you know, where's the

498
00:23:53,440 --> 00:23:55,800
Speaker 2: first dose? Yeah, this is the first dose. Get ready?

499
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Speaker 1: Trump is anti war dream officially dead. And it's not

500
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Speaker 1: even we're exactly not from Alexis.

501
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Speaker 2: He could not do anything while he's in office. It's

502
00:24:04,320 --> 00:24:07,200
Speaker 2: just that this makes it harder to not do anything

503
00:24:07,320 --> 00:24:10,520
Speaker 2: while he's an office. So the results are what's ultimate. Ultimately,

504
00:24:10,520 --> 00:24:13,479
Speaker 2: the results are what speak for themselves. We will see.

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00:24:14,040 --> 00:24:16,080
Speaker 2: I think if he did pick TULSI honestly look within

506
00:24:16,160 --> 00:24:19,000
Speaker 2: the within the realm, that would be fantastic, you know,

507
00:24:19,280 --> 00:24:22,480
Speaker 2: for for at least what I believe in. But from

508
00:24:22,520 --> 00:24:25,560
Speaker 2: what I'm seeing right now, I think it is relatively unlikely.

509
00:24:25,680 --> 00:24:29,240
Speaker 2: Let's get to the next most confounding pick. Let's put

510
00:24:29,240 --> 00:24:33,560
Speaker 2: this up there on the screen, guys. The second Yeah,

511
00:24:33,640 --> 00:24:37,879
Speaker 2: so this broke light last night. Trump is picking Kirsty

512
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Speaker 2: Nome to serve as a Secretary of Homeland Security. Now

513
00:24:41,800 --> 00:24:45,639
Speaker 2: here's the thing that people don't understand. Homeland security is

514
00:24:45,720 --> 00:24:48,919
Speaker 2: one of the largest government agencies. The DHS is actually

515
00:24:48,920 --> 00:24:52,760
Speaker 2: the largest law enforcement agency in the world. So not

516
00:24:52,880 --> 00:24:55,960
Speaker 2: only would she be in charge of the border patrol

517
00:24:56,320 --> 00:24:59,879
Speaker 2: and of the mass deportation operation, she would be the

518
00:25:00,040 --> 00:25:02,119
Speaker 2: face of it. The same way that what was that

519
00:25:02,200 --> 00:25:05,240
Speaker 2: lady's name, I'm totally blanking on it right now, from

520
00:25:05,240 --> 00:25:10,080
Speaker 2: twenty eighteen whatever, there was a previous woman who was

521
00:25:10,119 --> 00:25:12,440
Speaker 2: in the job, in the job in twenty eighteen.

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Speaker 3: Under likes women for this job.

523
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Speaker 2: I guess, yeah. But the thing is is that you

524
00:25:17,119 --> 00:25:18,639
Speaker 2: would be the face of it. You would be the

525
00:25:18,640 --> 00:25:21,639
Speaker 2: one taking the podium. And like, let's be honest, like

526
00:25:21,760 --> 00:25:26,040
Speaker 2: Christyinome is not an impressive political individual, Like she this

527
00:25:26,080 --> 00:25:28,719
Speaker 2: whole thing about murdering her dog, she never came up

528
00:25:28,760 --> 00:25:32,480
Speaker 2: with a good answer. That's child's plate. Compared to the

529
00:25:32,520 --> 00:25:35,040
Speaker 2: ship the press is gonna throw at you. They're gonna

530
00:25:35,119 --> 00:25:38,199
Speaker 2: they're gonna drag up every sob story of every illegal

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Speaker 2: immigrant that's ever come to the United States and say,

532
00:25:40,440 --> 00:25:43,719
Speaker 2: how do you justify this? This is not America, this

533
00:25:43,920 --> 00:25:47,040
Speaker 2: violates the statue of liberty. Do you really think that

534
00:25:47,080 --> 00:25:49,440
Speaker 2: she could stand up to press her like that? I don't.

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Speaker 1: And also, by the way, what press should do that,

536
00:25:53,600 --> 00:25:55,840
Speaker 1: and they should have been doing it under Kamala and

537
00:25:55,840 --> 00:25:57,920
Speaker 1: Biden and Obama as well.

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Speaker 2: I disagree on them that one.

539
00:26:00,520 --> 00:26:04,080
Speaker 1: You shouldn't it shouldn't cover what's actually happening in the country.

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Speaker 2: Of course, sure you should. You should also cover a

541
00:26:05,720 --> 00:26:09,000
Speaker 2: lot of illegal immigrant murders and rapes, right that doesn't. No,

542
00:26:09,119 --> 00:26:12,560
Speaker 2: it gets covered on the right with a list right there.

543
00:26:12,800 --> 00:26:15,040
Speaker 2: But over on MSNBC, it's like these are the greatest

544
00:26:15,080 --> 00:26:17,320
Speaker 2: angels ever walked the face of the earth. Anyway, Well,

545
00:26:20,280 --> 00:26:22,400
Speaker 2: that's fine, then they can be law abiding at Crystal

546
00:26:22,440 --> 00:26:25,200
Speaker 2: in El Salvador, which apparently is such a nice country now,

547
00:26:25,280 --> 00:26:28,159
Speaker 2: and the rest of these places regardless. The point is

548
00:26:28,160 --> 00:26:31,600
Speaker 2: is that is this a very smart individual? I mean,

549
00:26:31,720 --> 00:26:34,879
Speaker 2: is this an impressive individual who will be able to

550
00:26:35,000 --> 00:26:38,960
Speaker 2: make this case? It? Also? Is this a competent individual?

551
00:26:39,200 --> 00:26:42,040
Speaker 2: He se nome is running South Dakota. Okay, that's great,

552
00:26:42,040 --> 00:26:44,480
Speaker 2: all right, you know it's a small state. Let's be honest,

553
00:26:44,560 --> 00:26:47,199
Speaker 2: Let's look at the GDP ranking and all this is

554
00:26:47,240 --> 00:26:49,919
Speaker 2: this somebody who is up to the task not only

555
00:26:50,000 --> 00:26:53,040
Speaker 2: of one of the most red hot jobs in Washington,

556
00:26:53,480 --> 00:26:56,040
Speaker 2: is it also going to be like the ability to

557
00:26:56,080 --> 00:26:59,640
Speaker 2: actually run the agency. I mean, honestly, I don't see

558
00:26:59,640 --> 00:27:02,240
Speaker 2: it at all. I don't have no understanding of why

559
00:27:02,280 --> 00:27:06,399
Speaker 2: this is picked. Like I guess the best case for

560
00:27:06,480 --> 00:27:10,000
Speaker 2: it would be that she's like sometimes good on TV

561
00:27:10,600 --> 00:27:13,520
Speaker 2: and is a surrogate for Donald Trump, right, But you know,

562
00:27:13,600 --> 00:27:16,040
Speaker 2: even in the past, like in terms of her support

563
00:27:16,080 --> 00:27:18,520
Speaker 2: for Trump and all that, that's been wishy washy. So

564
00:27:18,640 --> 00:27:20,719
Speaker 2: this is the most confounding one to me. I have

565
00:27:20,800 --> 00:27:23,160
Speaker 2: no understanding, you know, of this one.

566
00:27:23,240 --> 00:27:25,800
Speaker 3: You don't have an under So we do have an understanding.

567
00:27:25,359 --> 00:27:26,080
Speaker 2: What that she's good looking.

568
00:27:26,240 --> 00:27:29,920
Speaker 1: I mean, she's with his boy, Corey Lwandowski, but again,

569
00:27:30,200 --> 00:27:33,280
Speaker 1: and he thinks he's good looking, and you know, probably

570
00:27:33,280 --> 00:27:35,440
Speaker 1: feels like, since they have all the dirt on her

571
00:27:35,480 --> 00:27:38,520
Speaker 1: with regard to that affair, that she'll be unfailingly loyal

572
00:27:39,000 --> 00:27:41,159
Speaker 1: and sycophantic and ultimately.

573
00:27:40,840 --> 00:27:41,480
Speaker 3: That's what he wants.

574
00:27:41,800 --> 00:27:43,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, and probably.

575
00:27:43,119 --> 00:27:45,400
Speaker 1: And I guess, you know, may may feel like it's

576
00:27:45,440 --> 00:27:47,119
Speaker 1: better to have when they're going to be you know,

577
00:27:48,640 --> 00:27:51,959
Speaker 1: creating new orphans as they parents and children apart as

578
00:27:52,000 --> 00:27:54,679
Speaker 1: they did in the last administration, and sending people who

579
00:27:54,720 --> 00:27:57,639
Speaker 1: have been here for many years to camps that perhaps

580
00:27:57,680 --> 00:27:59,439
Speaker 1: would help to have a woman to be able to

581
00:27:59,480 --> 00:28:01,199
Speaker 1: sell that deeply cruel and inhuman.

582
00:28:01,280 --> 00:28:02,919
Speaker 2: But it didn't happen last time around, did it.

583
00:28:02,960 --> 00:28:03,119
Speaker 3: You know?

584
00:28:03,119 --> 00:28:06,119
Speaker 2: It's like, well, it didn't happen. They completely bucked on

585
00:28:06,200 --> 00:28:08,040
Speaker 2: child separation even though they had a woman.

586
00:28:08,040 --> 00:28:10,520
Speaker 3: Now before they orphaned the like thousands of children.

587
00:28:10,640 --> 00:28:14,000
Speaker 2: All right, again, very in dispute. And then regardless, it's

588
00:28:14,440 --> 00:28:17,080
Speaker 2: this is complicated, but we'll get to that, I guess

589
00:28:17,119 --> 00:28:19,600
Speaker 2: when we continue with some of these other uh, with

590
00:28:19,680 --> 00:28:22,440
Speaker 2: these other people who were appointed. So we also saw

591
00:28:22,480 --> 00:28:25,240
Speaker 2: the news on the border front that Tom Homan, who

592
00:28:25,320 --> 00:28:29,199
Speaker 2: was the acting director of ICE, would be appointed as

593
00:28:29,280 --> 00:28:32,600
Speaker 2: the quote unquote borders are under the president. The reason

594
00:28:32,640 --> 00:28:35,280
Speaker 2: why that's again is a little bit confounding, is that

595
00:28:35,520 --> 00:28:38,760
Speaker 2: Czar only has as much power as the president gives you.

596
00:28:38,760 --> 00:28:42,960
Speaker 2: You don't have statutory power. Kirsty nom will have statutory There.

597
00:28:42,840 --> 00:28:44,560
Speaker 1: Was a thought Homan might actually be DHS.

598
00:28:44,760 --> 00:28:47,080
Speaker 2: That's what I thought. He's going to be the DHS secretary.

599
00:28:47,080 --> 00:28:49,960
Speaker 2: He's a former border patrol agent. He's rock solid on

600
00:28:50,000 --> 00:28:53,040
Speaker 2: the issue of immigration, and he was there last time around.

601
00:28:53,080 --> 00:28:56,320
Speaker 2: Stephen Miller will be was appointed. I think they announced

602
00:28:56,320 --> 00:28:58,320
Speaker 2: he will be the Deputy chief of Staff Deputy chief

603
00:28:58,320 --> 00:29:00,360
Speaker 2: of statis at a fair important position in the White House.

604
00:29:00,560 --> 00:29:03,480
Speaker 2: They're the real like moves and shakers. There's two of them.

605
00:29:03,520 --> 00:29:06,480
Speaker 2: So the chief of staff like gives a policy portfolio.

606
00:29:06,600 --> 00:29:08,680
Speaker 2: Her job is to run like this stuff in the

607
00:29:08,680 --> 00:29:11,520
Speaker 2: Oval office. It's more like an operational role, whereas the

608
00:29:11,520 --> 00:29:14,040
Speaker 2: deputy chief of staff will get a policy portfolio and

609
00:29:14,080 --> 00:29:17,640
Speaker 2: their job is to like enforce that throughout the White House. Obviously,

610
00:29:17,720 --> 00:29:19,760
Speaker 2: Miller has been which he's served all four years with

611
00:29:19,800 --> 00:29:22,280
Speaker 2: Donald Trump. He's served all four years on the campaign.

612
00:29:22,560 --> 00:29:24,880
Speaker 2: He has been with him since day one. Really, I mean,

613
00:29:24,960 --> 00:29:28,560
Speaker 2: if you think about it, Miller, Miller and Jeff Sessions

614
00:29:28,560 --> 00:29:32,080
Speaker 2: are two of the original figures to ever back Donald J. Trump,

615
00:29:32,120 --> 00:29:35,360
Speaker 2: you know, back in Two Dogs aid. Yes, he works

616
00:29:35,400 --> 00:29:37,520
Speaker 2: for Jeff Stashis. Sessions is one of the original like

617
00:29:37,560 --> 00:29:41,080
Speaker 2: immigration hawks in Washington. So that's where that comes from.

618
00:29:41,200 --> 00:29:43,840
Speaker 2: So yeah, on the DHS front, I don't know. I

619
00:29:43,840 --> 00:29:48,040
Speaker 2: don't get it. I truly don't understand. Like Tom Holman,

620
00:29:48,560 --> 00:29:51,840
Speaker 2: as the borders are again, borders are is a fine position,

621
00:29:51,960 --> 00:29:55,600
Speaker 2: but you have no statutory authority, like your Your portfolio

622
00:29:56,160 --> 00:29:59,120
Speaker 2: is to just sit there and like you know, pressure

623
00:29:59,200 --> 00:30:03,280
Speaker 2: the DHS to do something, pressure the border patrol, pressure eyes.

624
00:30:03,360 --> 00:30:06,040
Speaker 2: You can convene meetings in the White House, but you

625
00:30:06,080 --> 00:30:09,360
Speaker 2: don't have a lot of power. And you know in

626
00:30:09,400 --> 00:30:11,560
Speaker 2: some cases of these agencies they can just say screw

627
00:30:11,560 --> 00:30:13,320
Speaker 2: you or I'm not gonna listen to you. You know,

628
00:30:13,840 --> 00:30:15,960
Speaker 2: Steven Miller, it's a little bit different. He's the actual

629
00:30:16,040 --> 00:30:18,600
Speaker 2: deputy chief of Staff. He will have a lot more enforceability,

630
00:30:18,600 --> 00:30:21,920
Speaker 2: and presumably he'll have like quote unquote walking privileges into

631
00:30:22,000 --> 00:30:24,880
Speaker 2: the Oval office. So how that works, you know, we'll see.

632
00:30:25,200 --> 00:30:29,040
Speaker 2: But yeah, on the I don't doubt that some mass

633
00:30:29,120 --> 00:30:34,040
Speaker 2: deportation program of some sort will happen. But with Chrissy

634
00:30:34,120 --> 00:30:37,800
Speaker 2: Nome at the helm of it and actually running the

635
00:30:37,880 --> 00:30:42,000
Speaker 2: police force, I have a lot less, like frankly confidence

636
00:30:42,040 --> 00:30:45,560
Speaker 2: that it will be run competently, you know, in a

637
00:30:45,560 --> 00:30:48,880
Speaker 2: way that is defensible, you know, to the American people,

638
00:30:49,000 --> 00:30:51,240
Speaker 2: because I mean, like, I mean, look, you know already

639
00:30:51,400 --> 00:30:54,040
Speaker 2: the debate we're having that just wait until it's actually real,

640
00:30:54,200 --> 00:30:57,480
Speaker 2: Like it's gonna be the most red hot issue in DC.

641
00:30:57,680 --> 00:31:01,240
Speaker 2: They're gonna throw everything they possibly got immigration on.

642
00:31:01,320 --> 00:31:05,240
Speaker 1: The Immigration has almost never been more popular than at

643
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Speaker 1: the peak of the child separation policy last time around,

644
00:31:09,720 --> 00:31:11,280
Speaker 1: And you know, I don't know if that'll be the

645
00:31:11,280 --> 00:31:14,720
Speaker 1: case this time because at the time Democrats were you know,

646
00:31:15,080 --> 00:31:18,880
Speaker 1: uniformly offering a different vision and were in uniform opposition

647
00:31:19,080 --> 00:31:23,200
Speaker 1: to the Trump uh border policies. Now they've basically accepted

648
00:31:23,240 --> 00:31:26,120
Speaker 1: the like trumpest worldview that immigrants are just bad and

649
00:31:26,120 --> 00:31:27,640
Speaker 1: the only thing we should do is kick them out.

650
00:31:28,480 --> 00:31:30,479
Speaker 1: So I don't know if it'll be the same, but

651
00:31:30,520 --> 00:31:33,440
Speaker 1: I know that there will be a lot of you know,

652
00:31:33,640 --> 00:31:36,440
Speaker 1: there will be a lot of people who did not

653
00:31:36,680 --> 00:31:42,040
Speaker 1: really intellectualize what an actual mass deportation policy looks like,

654
00:31:42,280 --> 00:31:44,120
Speaker 1: feels like entails, et cetera.

655
00:31:44,600 --> 00:31:46,880
Speaker 3: And so yeah, you know, but.

656
00:31:47,080 --> 00:31:49,960
Speaker 1: Look, this is what people voted for, and he got

657
00:31:50,160 --> 00:31:52,680
Speaker 1: on the vote on the anti war part, Like, I

658
00:31:52,680 --> 00:31:55,480
Speaker 1: think people were completely sold to Bill of Goods, and

659
00:31:55,560 --> 00:31:57,560
Speaker 1: I think there were just straight up lied to by

660
00:31:57,560 --> 00:32:00,280
Speaker 1: a bunch of like online influencers and people like RFK

661
00:32:00,440 --> 00:32:02,960
Speaker 1: Junior and Tulci Gabbard. So I don't think they voted

662
00:32:02,960 --> 00:32:05,560
Speaker 1: for like war with Iran in Mexico and China and

663
00:32:05,720 --> 00:32:09,200
Speaker 1: Russia and whatever. But on this, you know, you can't

664
00:32:09,200 --> 00:32:11,960
Speaker 1: say that he didn't run around talking every day about

665
00:32:12,160 --> 00:32:16,480
Speaker 1: having an aggressive mass deportation policy. So, you know, Homan

666
00:32:16,560 --> 00:32:19,640
Speaker 1: and Miller. Maggie Haberman at the New York Times, he's

667
00:32:19,680 --> 00:32:23,120
Speaker 1: usually correct about, you know, trump internal dynamics or whatever.

668
00:32:23,920 --> 00:32:27,720
Speaker 1: She reports that Miller's portfolio will be quite large and

669
00:32:27,760 --> 00:32:31,080
Speaker 1: he'll have a lot of power, which wouldn't be surprising

670
00:32:31,120 --> 00:32:33,400
Speaker 1: because obviously he's been with Trump. You know, he's been

671
00:32:33,440 --> 00:32:34,880
Speaker 1: with Trump much longer than Susie.

672
00:32:34,600 --> 00:32:36,480
Speaker 2: Wilds, who's the actual OG.

673
00:32:36,680 --> 00:32:37,880
Speaker 3: He is in OG.

674
00:32:38,440 --> 00:32:42,000
Speaker 1: He is extremely ideological. There is nothing Trump could do

675
00:32:42,240 --> 00:32:45,880
Speaker 1: that would lead Miller to break with him whatsoever. And

676
00:32:45,920 --> 00:32:48,280
Speaker 1: so yeah, I think you know he is. He is

677
00:32:48,320 --> 00:32:51,960
Speaker 1: a hardcore anti immigrant idea luge. I think everybody knows

678
00:32:51,960 --> 00:32:53,640
Speaker 1: that about him, and he is going to be in

679
00:32:53,680 --> 00:32:55,400
Speaker 1: a significant position of power and no one should be

680
00:32:55,440 --> 00:32:56,080
Speaker 1: surprised about that.

681
00:32:56,160 --> 00:32:59,400
Speaker 2: I yeah, look, I think you're right. I if I

682
00:32:59,440 --> 00:33:02,080
Speaker 2: had to get of all the campaign promises that actually

683
00:33:02,120 --> 00:33:05,520
Speaker 2: gets fulfilled, immigration will probably be it because you have

684
00:33:05,640 --> 00:33:09,560
Speaker 2: the United Government right, so HR two, the border bill

685
00:33:09,680 --> 00:33:12,840
Speaker 2: that almost I think every Republican, almost every Republican has

686
00:33:12,920 --> 00:33:15,560
Speaker 2: voted for, so that will likely it won't Maybe it

687
00:33:15,560 --> 00:33:17,880
Speaker 2: won't become law of the land. Things become squirrely when

688
00:33:17,880 --> 00:33:20,600
Speaker 2: you actually have to vote for something. But something like

689
00:33:20,680 --> 00:33:23,120
Speaker 2: that is likely to get in there in terms of

690
00:33:23,200 --> 00:33:27,080
Speaker 2: mass deportation and all of that. It really depends on funding.

691
00:33:27,160 --> 00:33:30,200
Speaker 2: It also depends on the execution. But I mean, personally,

692
00:33:30,320 --> 00:33:32,400
Speaker 2: you know, I have faith in Tom Homan, I have

693
00:33:32,440 --> 00:33:34,680
Speaker 2: faith in Stephen Miller. But like I said, when you

694
00:33:34,760 --> 00:33:37,280
Speaker 2: actually have the person there who is going to be

695
00:33:37,360 --> 00:33:41,720
Speaker 2: running this agency, who frankly has no previous experience in

696
00:33:41,840 --> 00:33:45,200
Speaker 2: law enforcement, running the largest law enforcement agency having, I mean,

697
00:33:45,200 --> 00:33:48,920
Speaker 2: this is an administrative and bureaucratic nightmare to run this thing.

698
00:33:49,160 --> 00:33:50,880
Speaker 2: I truly don't understand it.

699
00:33:50,960 --> 00:33:53,200
Speaker 1: So there was one war that I'm not sure if

700
00:33:53,360 --> 00:33:57,040
Speaker 1: is confirmed yet. But did you see the reporting that

701
00:33:57,640 --> 00:33:59,920
Speaker 1: Scott Bessant will be Treasury Secretary.

702
00:34:00,000 --> 00:34:02,240
Speaker 2: I saw it reported, but it's not a hundred right.

703
00:34:02,160 --> 00:34:04,040
Speaker 3: Anyway, Well, I would keep an eye on that one.

704
00:34:04,200 --> 00:34:06,120
Speaker 3: Look a hitge fund billionaire guy.

705
00:34:06,160 --> 00:34:07,600
Speaker 2: He's on the short line. Look it was going to

706
00:34:07,600 --> 00:34:09,400
Speaker 2: be a hedge fund billionaire guy. He's the one to

707
00:34:09,680 --> 00:34:12,720
Speaker 2: him or what was Scott paulses John.

708
00:34:13,120 --> 00:34:16,320
Speaker 3: He's not Hank whatever anyway, that's John Paulson.

709
00:34:16,400 --> 00:34:18,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, not to be confused with Boss who was the

710
00:34:18,680 --> 00:34:21,040
Speaker 2: Secretary of Defense and a billionaire and a former Walls.

711
00:34:21,239 --> 00:34:23,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, you get all these rich rich dudes confused. But

712
00:34:24,160 --> 00:34:26,279
Speaker 1: in any case, he's the one that they would like

713
00:34:26,320 --> 00:34:28,640
Speaker 1: dispatch to ce NBC to be like, don't worry about

714
00:34:28,640 --> 00:34:30,440
Speaker 1: the Terriiff's guy is not going to be bad. He's

715
00:34:30,520 --> 00:34:33,280
Speaker 1: just using this as a negotiating tool. It'll be fine.

716
00:34:33,920 --> 00:34:34,160
Speaker 3: You know.

717
00:34:34,280 --> 00:34:37,279
Speaker 1: He's not really serious about this across like across the

718
00:34:37,280 --> 00:34:40,399
Speaker 1: board thing. So that was his his deal, and Trump

719
00:34:40,440 --> 00:34:43,760
Speaker 1: apparently loved to shout him out at rallies because Scott

720
00:34:43,840 --> 00:34:48,400
Speaker 1: would tie like the stock market performance to Trump's poll numbers,

721
00:34:48,520 --> 00:34:50,400
Speaker 1: and Trump of course ate that shit up.

722
00:34:50,560 --> 00:34:53,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, Scott bestart. I mean, look, Trump Trump is a

723
00:34:53,440 --> 00:34:55,600
Speaker 2: creature of the nineteen eighties and one of the things

724
00:34:55,600 --> 00:34:58,200
Speaker 2: in the nineteen eighties was that we almost always had

725
00:34:58,600 --> 00:35:02,360
Speaker 2: billionaire Wall Streeter as our treasury secretaries. He wants to

726
00:35:02,360 --> 00:35:05,319
Speaker 2: recreate the Reagan magic. That's what he's looking to do.

727
00:35:05,400 --> 00:35:07,480
Speaker 2: I'm not justifying it. I'm just telling people how his

728
00:35:07,480 --> 00:35:09,359
Speaker 2: mind works. And on this one, new of you were

729
00:35:09,400 --> 00:35:12,600
Speaker 2: never fooled. He always was honest about this. So that's

730
00:35:12,680 --> 00:35:16,480
Speaker 2: let's be very clear about where which direction he's looking at.

731
00:35:16,880 --> 00:35:18,800
Speaker 2: And especially look, a lot of the Wall Street guys

732
00:35:19,040 --> 00:35:21,960
Speaker 2: did support his campaign, and he does Trump owed a

733
00:35:22,000 --> 00:35:25,000
Speaker 2: lot to them, especially some of these I think. I mean,

734
00:35:25,040 --> 00:35:27,960
Speaker 2: obviously the majority of Wall Street money did go to Kamala.

735
00:35:28,120 --> 00:35:30,920
Speaker 1: I don't think that's actually that's actually not true. So

736
00:35:30,960 --> 00:35:35,240
Speaker 1: the the vults of billionaires went to Trump over.

737
00:35:35,160 --> 00:35:36,440
Speaker 3: It's actually the fewest.

738
00:35:36,640 --> 00:35:41,799
Speaker 1: The biggest billionaire party consolidation was behind Donald Trump this time,

739
00:35:41,840 --> 00:35:44,280
Speaker 1: which you wouldn't know. No, Kamala raised vastly more amounts

740
00:35:44,320 --> 00:35:47,160
Speaker 1: of money that was predominant from more like upper middle

741
00:35:47,200 --> 00:35:53,000
Speaker 1: class resistance liberals who poured in smaller donations. But yeah,

742
00:35:52,800 --> 00:35:58,400
Speaker 1: the billionaires almost all united behind Trump, and even Kama's

743
00:35:58,440 --> 00:36:01,240
Speaker 1: most prominent billionaire, Mark Cuban, actually did not even donate

744
00:36:01,400 --> 00:36:02,879
Speaker 1: her campaign, which is kind of great.

745
00:36:03,480 --> 00:36:06,480
Speaker 2: I have October three, Yeah, from Forbes magazine, Kamala Harris

746
00:36:06,520 --> 00:36:11,000
Speaker 2: has more billionaires prominently backing her than Trump. So I mean,

747
00:36:11,040 --> 00:36:13,120
Speaker 2: I'm not sure where that's coming from, because Bill Gates

748
00:36:13,120 --> 00:36:15,920
Speaker 2: obviously gave fifty million dollars, so sure Mark Cuban was

749
00:36:15,920 --> 00:36:18,319
Speaker 2: a surrogate. I'm not trying to say Trump is better

750
00:36:18,440 --> 00:36:20,279
Speaker 2: or whatever. But like, I don't think it's accurate to

751
00:36:20,280 --> 00:36:23,200
Speaker 2: say the majority of billionaires where some of the top.

752
00:36:23,080 --> 00:36:27,720
Speaker 1: Ten donors, only the bottom two gave to Democrats. Trump's okay,

753
00:36:27,719 --> 00:36:31,520
Speaker 1: but that's megade from his own billionaire ten donors amounted

754
00:36:31,560 --> 00:36:33,799
Speaker 1: to about nine hundred and forty five million. Harris is

755
00:36:33,880 --> 00:36:36,160
Speaker 1: top down at two hundred and fifty four million. She

756
00:36:36,239 --> 00:36:38,279
Speaker 1: ended up raising more money thanks to resistance giving Trump

757
00:36:38,320 --> 00:36:40,120
Speaker 1: got to spend much less time raising with most blah

758
00:36:40,120 --> 00:36:44,920
Speaker 1: blah blah. So anyway, yeah, but that's he has a

759
00:36:44,960 --> 00:36:46,040
Speaker 1: lot of big money behind him.

760
00:36:46,080 --> 00:36:47,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, he had a lot. But I'm just saying the

761
00:36:47,680 --> 00:36:50,000
Speaker 2: majority of billionaires did suppor Kamala Harris. Now, whether they

762
00:36:50,040 --> 00:36:51,640
Speaker 2: put their money behind it or not, I don't know.

763
00:36:51,680 --> 00:36:54,040
Speaker 2: But you know, I'm just saying. I'm not saying Donald

764
00:36:54,080 --> 00:36:57,480
Speaker 2: Trump is the what less billionaire friendly can ever, Like,

765
00:36:57,560 --> 00:37:01,120
Speaker 2: let's be real. Yeah, So anyway, that's how the administration

766
00:37:01,280 --> 00:37:04,000
Speaker 2: is currently shaping up, and I guess it'll be an

767
00:37:04,000 --> 00:37:06,000
Speaker 2: interesting couple of years. So that's the way I'll put it.

768
00:37:06,040 --> 00:37:09,440
Speaker 2: And that's basically exactly what I expected. So if you

769
00:37:09,480 --> 00:37:11,879
Speaker 2: expected something else, I don't really know what to tell you.

770
00:37:11,880 --> 00:37:13,360
Speaker 2: You were warned, and I did tell you that it

771
00:37:13,400 --> 00:37:17,920
Speaker 2: was probably gonna happen. At the same time, got to

772
00:37:17,920 --> 00:37:21,680
Speaker 2: pay attention to the campaign that flopped big, and that

773
00:37:21,960 --> 00:37:25,719
Speaker 2: was Kamala Harris. And it appears the biggest flop not

774
00:37:25,800 --> 00:37:28,520
Speaker 2: only was just the vote total, but it actually was

775
00:37:28,600 --> 00:37:32,000
Speaker 2: a lot of the money decisions that were made inside

776
00:37:32,080 --> 00:37:35,000
Speaker 2: the campaign. So we have curated now a list. It

777
00:37:35,040 --> 00:37:38,000
Speaker 2: appears that the Kamala Harris campaign, despite raising over one

778
00:37:38,120 --> 00:37:42,360
Speaker 2: billion dollars, still ended up some twenty million dollars or

779
00:37:42,400 --> 00:37:46,720
Speaker 2: so in debt and is now currently fundraising, still asking

780
00:37:46,760 --> 00:37:50,160
Speaker 2: people for money after she lost. Let's put this up

781
00:37:50,200 --> 00:37:53,359
Speaker 2: there on the screen. So this is an example of

782
00:37:53,400 --> 00:37:56,960
Speaker 2: one of the emails she's been sending out. Now. She says,

783
00:37:56,960 --> 00:37:59,880
Speaker 2: first and foremost, we want to acknowledge the fear, the confusion,

784
00:38:00,160 --> 00:38:02,880
Speaker 2: sadness many of you are feeling at this moment. For others,

785
00:38:02,920 --> 00:38:05,520
Speaker 2: you may be looking for something meaningful and important to

786
00:38:05,600 --> 00:38:08,600
Speaker 2: channel your emotions. If that's you, then we're asking you

787
00:38:08,680 --> 00:38:12,040
Speaker 2: to make a donation to the Democratic Party today. Here's

788
00:38:12,040 --> 00:38:13,960
Speaker 2: why this is important. As you read this, there are

789
00:38:14,040 --> 00:38:16,160
Speaker 2: US Senate and House races that are too close to call,

790
00:38:16,480 --> 00:38:19,200
Speaker 2: or within the margin of recounts. They all need your

791
00:38:19,200 --> 00:38:21,480
Speaker 2: help to get across the finish line. So can you

792
00:38:21,520 --> 00:38:26,040
Speaker 2: please rush a contribution to the Harris Fight Fund program today?

793
00:38:26,880 --> 00:38:29,200
Speaker 2: Does anyone want to name like a high profile race

794
00:38:29,200 --> 00:38:33,000
Speaker 2: other than in Pennsylvania that's not in recount territory. That's right,

795
00:38:33,080 --> 00:38:35,359
Speaker 2: So this is a grift. Let's all be honest. Let's

796
00:38:35,400 --> 00:38:37,840
Speaker 2: put this up there on the screen. From Newsweek, it

797
00:38:37,920 --> 00:38:40,919
Speaker 2: appears that there is a significant amount of debt within

798
00:38:40,960 --> 00:38:44,440
Speaker 2: the Harris Walls campaign, enough so possibly up to the

799
00:38:45,080 --> 00:38:48,719
Speaker 2: of some twenty million dollars, and people are starting to

800
00:38:48,760 --> 00:38:51,800
Speaker 2: ask major questions about how some of that got spent.

801
00:38:52,440 --> 00:38:55,680
Speaker 2: What we see, actually, and very interestingly so far, is

802
00:38:55,719 --> 00:38:58,840
Speaker 2: not only could she possibly it appears there are reports

803
00:38:58,840 --> 00:39:00,800
Speaker 2: out there that she's not able to pay some staff.

804
00:39:01,120 --> 00:39:02,719
Speaker 3: The staffers came out and said it wasn't true.

805
00:39:02,719 --> 00:39:03,759
Speaker 2: Okay, came out.

806
00:39:03,960 --> 00:39:06,600
Speaker 1: The article actually debunks that thing. But the twenty million

807
00:39:06,600 --> 00:39:07,160
Speaker 1: does seem.

808
00:39:07,000 --> 00:39:09,000
Speaker 2: To be The twenty million does seem to be crackt

809
00:39:09,000 --> 00:39:10,760
Speaker 2: and there's a lot of money, and so we should

810
00:39:10,760 --> 00:39:13,680
Speaker 2: start to take a look then at where some of

811
00:39:13,719 --> 00:39:15,799
Speaker 2: that money went. And the craziest is this, This is

812
00:39:15,840 --> 00:39:18,000
Speaker 2: hands down the craziest. Let's put the next one please.

813
00:39:18,000 --> 00:39:21,120
Speaker 2: From the New York Post, the Harris campaign reportedly spent

814
00:39:21,200 --> 00:39:25,560
Speaker 2: some six figures on the Call Her Daddy podcast set,

815
00:39:25,840 --> 00:39:28,400
Speaker 2: so as the they say, it didn't even crack a

816
00:39:28,440 --> 00:39:32,120
Speaker 2: million views. But what's fascinating is that, you know, call

817
00:39:32,160 --> 00:39:35,240
Speaker 2: Her Daddy, as I understand it, you know, Alex Cooper,

818
00:39:35,600 --> 00:39:38,160
Speaker 2: all of this. She has a home, she has a set,

819
00:39:38,280 --> 00:39:41,720
Speaker 2: like she films it, you know normally, But for some reason,

820
00:39:42,000 --> 00:39:43,600
Speaker 2: this set the one that people are in front of,

821
00:39:43,600 --> 00:39:45,160
Speaker 2: which frankly doesn't even look that good. I don't mean

822
00:39:45,200 --> 00:39:46,880
Speaker 2: look as good as our set. And from what I

823
00:39:46,880 --> 00:39:48,680
Speaker 2: can tell in the dollar figure, Crystal, I think they

824
00:39:48,719 --> 00:39:52,520
Speaker 2: spent more money on it. First, one single appearance, A

825
00:39:52,560 --> 00:39:55,560
Speaker 2: single appearance thing that is abounding like.

826
00:39:58,440 --> 00:40:01,799
Speaker 1: This one expenditure obviously not responsible for the hair slot,

827
00:40:02,000 --> 00:40:05,680
Speaker 1: but it really displays a stunning lack of understanding of

828
00:40:05,840 --> 00:40:09,600
Speaker 1: what matters in the new media space too, Like no

829
00:40:09,640 --> 00:40:12,440
Speaker 1: one has shown up for your frigging like aesthetics. Yes,

830
00:40:12,840 --> 00:40:14,919
Speaker 1: you know, I mean it's not we have a great side.

831
00:40:14,920 --> 00:40:16,880
Speaker 3: We're proud of it. We like, really we're proud that

832
00:40:16,880 --> 00:40:18,759
Speaker 3: you guys helped us build it. It looks great, it

833
00:40:18,760 --> 00:40:19,759
Speaker 3: helps us attract.

834
00:40:19,440 --> 00:40:23,880
Speaker 1: Bigger guests whatever, especially on a podcast like Call Her Daddy,

835
00:40:24,160 --> 00:40:28,839
Speaker 1: Like the aesthetics are really not the important part. So

836
00:40:29,000 --> 00:40:32,759
Speaker 1: it just also displays this like lack of really understanding

837
00:40:32,840 --> 00:40:33,720
Speaker 1: of the space.

838
00:40:34,120 --> 00:40:36,399
Speaker 3: But the other thing that discussed me with this is.

839
00:40:36,800 --> 00:40:40,480
Speaker 1: You know, Kamala had her big money backers, no doubt

840
00:40:40,520 --> 00:40:42,719
Speaker 1: about it. A lot of these donations didn't come from

841
00:40:42,719 --> 00:40:45,440
Speaker 1: big money to hop backers. They came from like regular people.

842
00:40:46,120 --> 00:40:49,080
Speaker 1: You wasted their money to pay Oprah a million, Like

843
00:40:49,440 --> 00:40:54,160
Speaker 1: you took regular working people's money and you siphoned it

844
00:40:54,200 --> 00:40:59,160
Speaker 1: to Oprah Winfrey and like Beyonce and Katie Perry and

845
00:40:59,200 --> 00:41:04,760
Speaker 1: these other so celebrity stars. That's disgusting. That is utterly grotesque.

846
00:41:04,920 --> 00:41:09,040
Speaker 1: It's one more reason why you really should have public

847
00:41:09,080 --> 00:41:13,040
Speaker 1: funding of elections, Like it should not be this constant

848
00:41:13,160 --> 00:41:18,560
Speaker 1: emotional manipulation of the public begging them for dollars to

849
00:41:18,640 --> 00:41:22,239
Speaker 1: go fund another like an Oprah Winfrey show and a

850
00:41:22,280 --> 00:41:26,200
Speaker 1: Beyonce speech where she doesn't even perform. I just the

851
00:41:26,239 --> 00:41:30,080
Speaker 1: whole situation is completely grotesque. To be the other thing

852
00:41:30,120 --> 00:41:35,280
Speaker 1: I would say, obviously, like the money really didn't matter

853
00:41:35,520 --> 00:41:37,239
Speaker 1: at the end of the day, it really didn't matter.

854
00:41:37,360 --> 00:41:40,400
Speaker 1: Now you can argue, I think the best case you

855
00:41:40,400 --> 00:41:43,960
Speaker 1: could say is in the battleground states she actually performed

856
00:41:43,960 --> 00:41:47,200
Speaker 1: better than she did in the non battleground states, meaning

857
00:41:47,239 --> 00:41:49,200
Speaker 1: that you know, the ads that were played in the

858
00:41:49,200 --> 00:41:53,359
Speaker 1: field program that was run were at least somewhat consequential

859
00:41:53,440 --> 00:41:57,600
Speaker 1: in terms of narrowing the gap. Obviously not enough, but

860
00:41:57,640 --> 00:42:01,239
Speaker 1: the money really wasn't the thing. And if Democrats are

861
00:42:01,239 --> 00:42:04,439
Speaker 1: going to get serious about winning again, which I doubt

862
00:42:04,440 --> 00:42:07,880
Speaker 1: they will, but maybe you never know, they need to

863
00:42:07,880 --> 00:42:11,680
Speaker 1: throw the whole, the whole of their big donor class overboard.

864
00:42:11,840 --> 00:42:14,120
Speaker 1: They need you know, ready talks about like oh Sista

865
00:42:14,160 --> 00:42:16,520
Speaker 1: Soldia moments with the left or web No, no, no, the

866
00:42:16,560 --> 00:42:18,719
Speaker 1: whole party has been like nothing but a series of

867
00:42:18,760 --> 00:42:23,080
Speaker 1: Sista Solgia moments with the left for decades. Now you

868
00:42:23,160 --> 00:42:25,680
Speaker 1: need to have assist to Soldia moment with the donor

869
00:42:25,760 --> 00:42:27,279
Speaker 1: class because you.

870
00:42:27,239 --> 00:42:29,880
Speaker 3: Don't even you don't even need their money.

871
00:42:30,160 --> 00:42:32,719
Speaker 1: Their money is actually a hindrance and it just leads

872
00:42:32,760 --> 00:42:35,680
Speaker 1: to grow testue expenditures like a million dollars to an

873
00:42:35,719 --> 00:42:38,920
Speaker 1: already like Oprah Winfrey is a billionaire. She did not

874
00:42:39,040 --> 00:42:42,359
Speaker 1: need regular people's million dollars And what does it say

875
00:42:42,360 --> 00:42:44,440
Speaker 1: about her that she needed to be paid to come

876
00:42:44,440 --> 00:42:45,719
Speaker 1: out And what does it say about you that she

877
00:42:45,760 --> 00:42:49,040
Speaker 1: needed to be paid to come out and endorse and

878
00:42:49,160 --> 00:42:53,359
Speaker 1: back your candidacy. Just disgusting. It's just such so emblematic

879
00:42:53,760 --> 00:42:56,600
Speaker 1: of what is deeply wrong at the core of this

880
00:42:56,640 --> 00:42:57,600
Speaker 1: party's ideology.

881
00:42:57,719 --> 00:43:00,279
Speaker 2: Yeah, and uh well we'll continue within that. Let's go

882
00:43:00,320 --> 00:43:02,480
Speaker 2: to the next part because this is honestly the craziest

883
00:43:02,480 --> 00:43:05,800
Speaker 2: one is that it appears that Kamala Harris paid Oprah

884
00:43:05,840 --> 00:43:09,959
Speaker 2: Winfrey a million dollars during the failed campaign. What's even

885
00:43:10,000 --> 00:43:13,480
Speaker 2: crazier is it wasn't just Oprah. It includes people like

886
00:43:13,600 --> 00:43:18,879
Speaker 2: Katy Perry, Lady Gaga, Ricky Martin. There was almost ten

887
00:43:18,960 --> 00:43:22,160
Speaker 2: million bucks that were spent behind this, many of which

888
00:43:22,239 --> 00:43:25,320
Speaker 2: actually did go into the pockets of these event management

889
00:43:25,360 --> 00:43:28,920
Speaker 2: companies and the stars. Now here's how naive I am.

890
00:43:29,000 --> 00:43:31,320
Speaker 2: I am a very cynical guy. Can I think everybody

891
00:43:32,160 --> 00:43:34,720
Speaker 2: agree with that? All the people who've been watching for years?

892
00:43:34,880 --> 00:43:37,919
Speaker 2: I genuinely did not know that thee lebs get paid

893
00:43:37,920 --> 00:43:40,520
Speaker 2: for it. I listen, they don't.

894
00:43:40,360 --> 00:43:40,960
Speaker 3: Believe in the call.

895
00:43:41,200 --> 00:43:43,319
Speaker 1: They show up you do a concert like that's what

896
00:43:43,400 --> 00:43:44,200
Speaker 1: I thought was going on.

897
00:43:44,280 --> 00:43:46,000
Speaker 2: Here's a billionaire. If I was a billionaire and I

898
00:43:46,080 --> 00:43:48,479
Speaker 2: was Oprah, right, you know, like it's one thing like, okay,

899
00:43:48,480 --> 00:43:50,440
Speaker 2: you donate money to the campaign. If anything should be

900
00:43:50,480 --> 00:43:52,200
Speaker 2: the other way, right, you should be given money to

901
00:43:52,200 --> 00:43:54,640
Speaker 2: the campaign, because they're like, look, she's something I believe

902
00:43:54,680 --> 00:43:56,879
Speaker 2: in all of this. Oh, all you want is my time.

903
00:43:56,920 --> 00:43:58,959
Speaker 2: I'm famous. You want me to come and speak, Okay, cool,

904
00:43:59,040 --> 00:44:01,480
Speaker 2: Yeah I could do that. Honestly, I would do that now,

905
00:44:01,600 --> 00:44:03,439
Speaker 2: you know if I was in a position of where

906
00:44:03,440 --> 00:44:06,280
Speaker 2: there but to shake you down for a million bucks.

907
00:44:06,480 --> 00:44:09,920
Speaker 2: That's crazy. And then Katie Perry apparently they also had

908
00:44:09,960 --> 00:44:15,040
Speaker 2: to drop Blenis Morris. I don't have her name. I'm

909
00:44:15,040 --> 00:44:18,080
Speaker 2: a boomer. I don't even know who this way he is.

910
00:44:18,440 --> 00:44:20,919
Speaker 3: That's an opposite of being a boomer. Okay, I'm old

911
00:44:21,040 --> 00:44:22,160
Speaker 3: enough to remember when she was.

912
00:44:22,320 --> 00:44:24,640
Speaker 2: Okay, got it. So I don't even know who this

913
00:44:24,640 --> 00:44:26,800
Speaker 2: woman is. But whoever she is, they didn't have the

914
00:44:26,840 --> 00:44:29,799
Speaker 2: money to pay, and I was like, wait, why, Like

915
00:44:30,080 --> 00:44:32,600
Speaker 2: why is she getting paid? She should just show up.

916
00:44:32,680 --> 00:44:35,520
Speaker 2: It's like, you don't need to be compensated for your time, Like,

917
00:44:35,520 --> 00:44:39,560
Speaker 2: to me, that's crazy. So Anyways, I don't know how

918
00:44:39,719 --> 00:44:42,799
Speaker 2: all that is going down, but yeah, that was that

919
00:44:42,960 --> 00:44:43,879
Speaker 2: was the wildest one.

920
00:44:43,880 --> 00:44:45,680
Speaker 1: There's one more too that we can put up on

921
00:44:45,680 --> 00:44:48,040
Speaker 1: the screen. They spent half a million dollars a day

922
00:44:48,600 --> 00:44:53,520
Speaker 1: to pay for the like Vegas sphere thing, which is

923
00:44:53,719 --> 00:44:54,920
Speaker 1: who did this persuade?

924
00:44:55,160 --> 00:44:57,960
Speaker 3: Like really, who did this persuade?

925
00:44:58,360 --> 00:45:00,680
Speaker 1: And I saw someone who said, you know, this is

926
00:45:00,840 --> 00:45:03,319
Speaker 1: the perfect emblem of a campaign that had all the

927
00:45:03,320 --> 00:45:06,319
Speaker 1: money in the world and no ideas. And you know

928
00:45:06,520 --> 00:45:09,680
Speaker 1: that's basically it summed up right there, all the money

929
00:45:09,680 --> 00:45:12,720
Speaker 1: in the world. But just like with Hillary in twenty sixteen,

930
00:45:12,760 --> 00:45:15,600
Speaker 1: who also want to spent Donald Trump, it doesn't matter

931
00:45:15,680 --> 00:45:18,479
Speaker 1: if you aren't selling something that people don't want to buy.

932
00:45:18,960 --> 00:45:24,040
Speaker 1: And Trump's campaign fundamentally understood the media landscape vastly better

933
00:45:24,280 --> 00:45:27,719
Speaker 1: than the Harris campaign did, both with the podcast strategy

934
00:45:28,040 --> 00:45:30,480
Speaker 1: but also with the strategy of like, you know, it's

935
00:45:30,520 --> 00:45:32,960
Speaker 1: cool if we get outspent. Because Trump knows how to

936
00:45:33,120 --> 00:45:36,319
Speaker 1: generate be controversial and devisive and generate a lot of

937
00:45:36,360 --> 00:45:39,319
Speaker 1: earned media, and he's going to do a thing and

938
00:45:39,560 --> 00:45:41,720
Speaker 1: that is going to set the tone of the campaign

939
00:45:41,800 --> 00:45:44,520
Speaker 1: and drive the messaging and persuade people you know, in

940
00:45:44,600 --> 00:45:47,439
Speaker 1: favor of our campaign and against Kamala Harris, and that

941
00:45:47,520 --> 00:45:51,160
Speaker 1: theory of the media was correct. In the Kamala Harris

942
00:45:51,200 --> 00:45:54,640
Speaker 1: theory of the media was obviously a major failure, perhaps

943
00:45:54,719 --> 00:45:59,040
Speaker 1: one of the biggest like tactical misunderstandings that they made

944
00:45:59,120 --> 00:46:00,960
Speaker 1: in terms of this campag And I would say.

945
00:46:00,760 --> 00:46:03,600
Speaker 2: Oh, absolutely, there's no question. This Vegas Sphere thing is

946
00:46:03,640 --> 00:46:06,120
Speaker 2: also just a hilarious one. It's like four hundred and

947
00:46:06,200 --> 00:46:11,120
Speaker 2: fifty thousand dollars that they spent on this. Listen, right,

948
00:46:11,239 --> 00:46:13,680
Speaker 2: the Spear's cool. I really want to go to the Sphere.

949
00:46:13,680 --> 00:46:15,799
Speaker 2: I'd like to go see a show there and all that.

950
00:46:15,960 --> 00:46:19,319
Speaker 2: But you know, you know, he lost Nevadas, So how

951
00:46:19,360 --> 00:46:22,440
Speaker 2: did that workout? That's pretty great. And everybody was saying, like, oh,

952
00:46:22,520 --> 00:46:25,240
Speaker 2: Kama's got few money, if she's able to buy out

953
00:46:25,400 --> 00:46:26,920
Speaker 2: the Spear, It's like, yeah, it turns out you do

954
00:46:26,960 --> 00:46:29,080
Speaker 2: have few money, but you don't got any votes. I think,

955
00:46:29,360 --> 00:46:33,719
Speaker 2: back up exactly, You're like Jesus, so this is a

956
00:46:33,719 --> 00:46:35,960
Speaker 2: coloss will spend and yeah, pick up on what you said.

957
00:46:36,239 --> 00:46:39,000
Speaker 2: There are a lot of hard working people out there

958
00:46:39,000 --> 00:46:40,600
Speaker 2: who did give her money. You know, it's not just

959
00:46:40,600 --> 00:46:42,040
Speaker 2: win moms and all these other people. A lot of

960
00:46:42,040 --> 00:46:44,240
Speaker 2: people out there, lower middle class folks and others chipped

961
00:46:44,280 --> 00:46:47,080
Speaker 2: in five ten dollars they believed in the cost. He

962
00:46:47,120 --> 00:46:49,200
Speaker 2: pissed their money away, and that's sick. You know, we

963
00:46:49,239 --> 00:46:52,040
Speaker 2: did a lot of us reporting here on the show

964
00:46:52,200 --> 00:46:54,920
Speaker 2: after stopped the steal, when Trump was shaking down people

965
00:46:54,920 --> 00:46:57,520
Speaker 2: for two hundred and fifty million dollars for basically bullshit,

966
00:46:57,600 --> 00:46:59,319
Speaker 2: right whenever you knew that he wasn't going to be

967
00:46:59,320 --> 00:47:01,839
Speaker 2: able to over turn the election. And there are hard

968
00:47:01,880 --> 00:47:04,920
Speaker 2: working plumbers, workmen, whatever who also gave money to that,

969
00:47:05,000 --> 00:47:06,480
Speaker 2: And then I thought that was wrong. I think this

970
00:47:06,560 --> 00:47:09,000
Speaker 2: is just as wrong, especially the Oprah thing. And you

971
00:47:09,160 --> 00:47:11,520
Speaker 2: pay a lady, the billionaire lady needs a million dollars

972
00:47:11,520 --> 00:47:14,000
Speaker 2: show up, and you know, so you also, Oprah. You know,

973
00:47:14,600 --> 00:47:17,520
Speaker 2: you should know better than to accept that money because

974
00:47:17,600 --> 00:47:20,399
Speaker 2: you don't even need it. It's less than marginal at

975
00:47:20,400 --> 00:47:22,719
Speaker 2: this point. And now when it comes out, you look

976
00:47:22,840 --> 00:47:26,080
Speaker 2: like a money grub. You know. Obviously, any of us

977
00:47:26,160 --> 00:47:27,920
Speaker 2: gonna believe an Oprah endorsement in the field, I'll tell

978
00:47:27,960 --> 00:47:30,320
Speaker 2: you I'm not. I truly did not believe it. I

979
00:47:30,360 --> 00:47:32,640
Speaker 2: thought when Kid Rock and people maybe it is on

980
00:47:32,680 --> 00:47:34,319
Speaker 2: the Republican gays. I don't know, but like I thought,

981
00:47:34,360 --> 00:47:35,880
Speaker 2: when people just showed up, they're like, yeah, that's what

982
00:47:35,920 --> 00:47:37,680
Speaker 2: they think. Okay, cool, you know whatever.

983
00:47:38,040 --> 00:47:41,160
Speaker 1: Yeah that's what I thought too. I genuinely love that

984
00:47:41,200 --> 00:47:41,560
Speaker 1: as well.

985
00:47:41,719 --> 00:47:42,360
Speaker 2: Bit shocking.

986
00:47:42,520 --> 00:47:45,719
Speaker 1: It truly is one last thing on just like the

987
00:47:46,040 --> 00:47:51,320
Speaker 1: bigger takeaway on political giving, money matters a lot in politics,

988
00:47:51,320 --> 00:47:54,560
Speaker 1: but the lower you go down the ballot, the more

989
00:47:54,760 --> 00:47:58,879
Speaker 1: it matters. So if you want to give political donations

990
00:47:58,960 --> 00:48:01,600
Speaker 1: to you know, Canadas and causes that you believe in,

991
00:48:01,960 --> 00:48:03,960
Speaker 1: the place where you're going to have the biggest impact

992
00:48:04,200 --> 00:48:07,120
Speaker 1: is at the lowest, so like you know, your local

993
00:48:07,160 --> 00:48:10,239
Speaker 1: school board or city council, or your state rep or

994
00:48:10,280 --> 00:48:12,400
Speaker 1: even your state senator, you know, all the way up

995
00:48:12,400 --> 00:48:16,359
Speaker 1: to like members of the House, right, it really makes

996
00:48:16,360 --> 00:48:20,359
Speaker 1: a difference there. In fact, the fact that Democrats significantly

997
00:48:20,400 --> 00:48:23,120
Speaker 1: outspent Republicans both at the House and the Senate level

998
00:48:23,200 --> 00:48:25,080
Speaker 1: is probably part of the reason why they were able

999
00:48:25,080 --> 00:48:28,000
Speaker 1: to stem some of the losses at those levels and

1000
00:48:28,120 --> 00:48:30,640
Speaker 1: perform better than they did at the top of the ticket,

1001
00:48:30,680 --> 00:48:33,520
Speaker 1: because the money just goes matters more there where you

1002
00:48:33,520 --> 00:48:37,279
Speaker 1: have less media saturation. So in any case, if you're

1003
00:48:37,280 --> 00:48:39,719
Speaker 1: a person out there who does political giving, don't don't

1004
00:48:39,719 --> 00:48:41,400
Speaker 1: give to the top of the ticket like it's honestly

1005
00:48:41,440 --> 00:48:42,360
Speaker 1: a waste of your money.

1006
00:48:42,440 --> 00:48:43,600
Speaker 3: It's a waste of your money.

1007
00:48:43,600 --> 00:48:46,480
Speaker 2: Absolutely, such a good point, especially with earned media, that's

1008
00:48:46,520 --> 00:48:47,280
Speaker 2: the most important.

1009
00:48:47,600 --> 00:48:49,719
Speaker 1: They have plenty of rich people who are going to

1010
00:48:49,840 --> 00:48:52,440
Speaker 1: give them, you know, I mean Miriam Addison gave traumpa

1011
00:48:52,440 --> 00:48:55,760
Speaker 1: one hundred million dollars, like Kama had her big donors

1012
00:48:55,840 --> 00:48:58,040
Speaker 1: as well. They're going to have the money that they need.

1013
00:48:58,480 --> 00:49:03,319
Speaker 1: So just don't get to the prostential level. It's right

1014
00:49:03,400 --> 00:49:05,840
Speaker 1: because of this. Because of this, also, don't give to

1015
00:49:05,840 --> 00:49:07,040
Speaker 1: the DNC. We're about to get to that.

1016
00:49:07,160 --> 00:49:09,560
Speaker 2: Let's go to the next part. Shall we put this

1017
00:49:09,600 --> 00:49:13,400
Speaker 2: stuff there on the screen. It appears that every major

1018
00:49:13,440 --> 00:49:16,480
Speaker 2: Democratic leader in the House will get re elected to

1019
00:49:16,520 --> 00:49:20,360
Speaker 2: their position. Challenge Pere says, all the post lection takes

1020
00:49:20,400 --> 00:49:22,920
Speaker 2: mean zero as the House stems re elect their leaders

1021
00:49:22,960 --> 00:49:25,719
Speaker 2: without any dissent at all, and there will not be

1022
00:49:25,760 --> 00:49:29,000
Speaker 2: any drama. House Minority Leader Hakim Jeffries he's coming back

1023
00:49:29,040 --> 00:49:32,480
Speaker 2: minority with Kathin Clark coming back. Democratic Chief Caucus Chair

1024
00:49:32,520 --> 00:49:34,879
Speaker 2: Pete agui Are he is coming back, So number one,

1025
00:49:34,960 --> 00:49:38,360
Speaker 2: two and three in the House to representatives, every person

1026
00:49:38,560 --> 00:49:41,160
Speaker 2: is coming back. This is really and they say.

1027
00:49:41,080 --> 00:49:44,720
Speaker 3: Likely unanimously, unanimously.

1028
00:49:44,120 --> 00:49:46,520
Speaker 2: This is a sick part of America. Of America's system.

1029
00:49:46,680 --> 00:49:48,879
Speaker 2: In the UK, when you lose, you get your ass

1030
00:49:48,880 --> 00:49:51,600
Speaker 2: booted out of there. And you know, maybe every once

1031
00:49:51,600 --> 00:49:53,440
Speaker 2: in a while, David Cameron, you know, he comes back

1032
00:49:53,440 --> 00:49:55,239
Speaker 2: as a four secondary. That's as good as it gets

1033
00:49:55,239 --> 00:49:57,480
Speaker 2: for you most of the time. You know, like, what's

1034
00:49:57,520 --> 00:50:00,200
Speaker 2: that former liberal Democrat guy? He works for Facebook? You know,

1035
00:50:00,239 --> 00:50:02,879
Speaker 2: Gordon Brown? Who when's the last time you heard about

1036
00:50:02,880 --> 00:50:05,399
Speaker 2: Gordon Brown? When's the last time? Even Boris He's gone?

1037
00:50:05,440 --> 00:50:07,640
Speaker 2: He's like not even there. He's flitting around the world.

1038
00:50:07,640 --> 00:50:10,120
Speaker 2: He's trying to mount his comeback. Rishiy sinok. He's gonna

1039
00:50:10,120 --> 00:50:13,239
Speaker 2: move to Silicon Valley anytime soon. And you know why

1040
00:50:13,239 --> 00:50:16,239
Speaker 2: because in their system, when you lose, you're done. They think,

1041
00:50:16,280 --> 00:50:18,600
Speaker 2: you know, they they're like, okay, the party is spoken,

1042
00:50:18,760 --> 00:50:20,879
Speaker 2: we get a new chairperson, you know, a new chair

1043
00:50:20,920 --> 00:50:22,440
Speaker 2: a new leader, and then they get to mount the

1044
00:50:22,440 --> 00:50:25,080
Speaker 2: campaign as the opposition and if you lose, then you

1045
00:50:25,120 --> 00:50:28,920
Speaker 2: elect somebody new. It's a very healthy, anti fragile system.

1046
00:50:29,120 --> 00:50:33,840
Speaker 2: In our system, we reward decrepit nepotism. You know, in

1047
00:50:33,920 --> 00:50:36,160
Speaker 2: many system we have candidates who lose and then they

1048
00:50:36,200 --> 00:50:39,399
Speaker 2: come back. We have House speakers who lose and allow

1049
00:50:39,440 --> 00:50:42,040
Speaker 2: I mean, people like that should not get rewarded. That's

1050
00:50:42,040 --> 00:50:44,319
Speaker 2: another thing we were talking about with Rick Scott. I

1051
00:50:44,320 --> 00:50:47,080
Speaker 2: don't get it. He was responsible in part for the

1052
00:50:47,080 --> 00:50:49,479
Speaker 2: twenty twenty two losses in the Senate. Sure, you don't

1053
00:50:49,520 --> 00:50:52,520
Speaker 2: get rewarded for that. You're supposed to be punished. But

1054
00:50:52,680 --> 00:50:59,719
Speaker 2: in America, for some reason, our system rewards longevity, nepotism,

1055
00:51:00,200 --> 00:51:04,040
Speaker 2: corruption all within our parties. Wasn't always this way. Actually,

1056
00:51:04,080 --> 00:51:06,560
Speaker 2: in the past there were sometimes in our parties that

1057
00:51:06,719 --> 00:51:09,440
Speaker 2: did have like reinforcing mechanisms, and they're like, no, if

1058
00:51:09,480 --> 00:51:11,920
Speaker 2: you lose, you know, we elect somebody knew. But this time,

1059
00:51:12,200 --> 00:51:15,640
Speaker 2: you know, why would you stick with Hakeem Jeffries or

1060
00:51:15,800 --> 00:51:19,239
Speaker 2: the any of these other people because they failed monumentally.

1061
00:51:19,760 --> 00:51:22,920
Speaker 2: Jeffrey's entire job, a big part of that leader position

1062
00:51:23,280 --> 00:51:26,400
Speaker 2: is specifically to dole out funds and to contest the

1063
00:51:26,400 --> 00:51:28,960
Speaker 2: House and to take it back. And as the margin

1064
00:51:29,000 --> 00:51:32,279
Speaker 2: shows for Republicans, it was possible for the Democrats to win.

1065
00:51:32,440 --> 00:51:34,160
Speaker 2: They could have pulled this off if they wanted to,

1066
00:51:34,200 --> 00:51:36,920
Speaker 2: even with the Trump landslide victory. So I mean, you

1067
00:51:36,960 --> 00:51:39,520
Speaker 2: know you're supposed to get punished, and instead he's just

1068
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Speaker 2: rolling back in unanimously.

1069
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Speaker 1: Not to mention, every one of the people that you

1070
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Speaker 1: mentioned and Jack Hyrmran, Jamie Harrison, Nancy Pelosi still obviously holds.

1071
00:51:47,760 --> 00:51:48,640
Speaker 3: A lot of slight et cetera.

1072
00:51:48,920 --> 00:51:52,759
Speaker 1: They all have the same basic philosophy and ideology. That

1073
00:51:52,880 --> 00:51:56,799
Speaker 1: was just an approach that was just completely rejected And

1074
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Speaker 1: if Democrats continue on this track, will continue to be

1075
00:52:00,440 --> 00:52:05,280
Speaker 1: repudiated and could result in, like I mean, they should

1076
00:52:05,320 --> 00:52:09,400
Speaker 1: feel like they are in a place of existential threat

1077
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Speaker 1: to the entire party right now. And to me, what

1078
00:52:12,680 --> 00:52:17,720
Speaker 1: this displays is that there is no real soul surging

1079
00:52:18,160 --> 00:52:21,000
Speaker 1: going on over on the Democratic side, because there's no

1080
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Speaker 1: way that you just go ahead and performative like, perfunctorily

1081
00:52:27,320 --> 00:52:31,560
Speaker 1: re elect the same exact leadership with no even challenger,

1082
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Speaker 1: no resistance, it's going to be unanimous.

1083
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Speaker 3: If you're engaged in any sort.

1084
00:52:36,560 --> 00:52:41,040
Speaker 1: Of real soul searching about what just went wrong for

1085
00:52:41,160 --> 00:52:45,160
Speaker 1: your party? How did you lose to this person who

1086
00:52:45,440 --> 00:52:48,560
Speaker 1: supposedly your whole mission of the party since he emerged

1087
00:52:48,600 --> 00:52:51,920
Speaker 1: on the scene was to defeat him and to remove

1088
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Speaker 1: him from the public sphere.

1089
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Speaker 3: How are you not.

1090
00:52:55,880 --> 00:52:59,360
Speaker 1: Questioning the direction of these leaders that have been in place,

1091
00:52:59,400 --> 00:53:03,240
Speaker 1: How are you not questioning everything about your party's approach

1092
00:53:03,320 --> 00:53:05,200
Speaker 1: right now? And so, to me, that's what this is

1093
00:53:05,200 --> 00:53:10,000
Speaker 1: indicative of is they are not interested in really writing

1094
00:53:10,000 --> 00:53:14,279
Speaker 1: the ship. You know, they'll they'll like, as as we're

1095
00:53:14,320 --> 00:53:17,200
Speaker 1: going to show, they'll like blame wokeism, They'll blame this,

1096
00:53:17,320 --> 00:53:19,759
Speaker 1: they'll blame that. They'll say, oh, let's just relax, it

1097
00:53:19,800 --> 00:53:22,680
Speaker 1: wasn't that bad. Like let's just like Jim Clyburn said,

1098
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Speaker 1: let's all just chill out. It's like you told us

1099
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Speaker 1: this guy was an existential threat, and now you are, like,

1100
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Speaker 1: let's just not point fingers, let's not play the blame game.

1101
00:53:31,000 --> 00:53:34,680
Speaker 1: Let's all just chill out. Like they are so committed

1102
00:53:35,040 --> 00:53:39,040
Speaker 1: to learning absolutely nothing. And it's no surprise because the

1103
00:53:39,080 --> 00:53:42,520
Speaker 1: people who benefit from learning nothing are exactly these people

1104
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Speaker 1: and the consultant class.

1105
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Speaker 3: It's a racket. The DNC is a racket.

1106
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Speaker 1: The you know, these leadership positions are a racket. They

1107
00:53:48,440 --> 00:53:51,120
Speaker 1: all benefit from the money and the power, and so

1108
00:53:51,320 --> 00:53:54,600
Speaker 1: they have no interest in really rocking the boat. And

1109
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Speaker 1: within the Democratic caucus, like as much as you have

1110
00:53:57,960 --> 00:53:59,960
Speaker 1: a few voices out there who are like, hey man,

1111
00:54:00,200 --> 00:54:02,800
Speaker 1: we should do things differently. When push comes to shove,

1112
00:54:03,360 --> 00:54:07,120
Speaker 1: they're not willing to make waves. They have bought into

1113
00:54:07,160 --> 00:54:11,240
Speaker 1: this idea that internal democratic party unity is the most

1114
00:54:11,239 --> 00:54:15,920
Speaker 1: important value. And you know, they gleefully watched as there

1115
00:54:15,960 --> 00:54:19,040
Speaker 1: were leadership was leadership tumult on the Republican side, and

1116
00:54:19,080 --> 00:54:22,040
Speaker 1: they were so proud that everyone on the Democratic side

1117
00:54:22,080 --> 00:54:25,200
Speaker 1: just frickin falls in line. And so yeah, you're going

1118
00:54:25,280 --> 00:54:28,760
Speaker 1: to just keep marching in the same direction endlessly until

1119
00:54:28,880 --> 00:54:31,960
Speaker 1: someone decides to break that habit, and you know, does

1120
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Speaker 1: not appear that that is coming anytime soon.

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Speaker 2: Very true.