1 00:00:15,520 --> 00:00:18,560 Speaker 1: This is the OTP presented by Farm Bureau Health Plans. 2 00:00:18,640 --> 00:00:21,599 Speaker 1: Plan on paying less for the coverage you need with 3 00:00:21,680 --> 00:00:24,800 Speaker 1: Farm Bureau Health Plans. Get a quote today at FBHP 4 00:00:25,480 --> 00:00:29,800 Speaker 1: dot com. I'm Mike Keith. This is so much fun 5 00:00:30,520 --> 00:00:33,720 Speaker 1: to be joined by my fellow play by play announcers 6 00:00:33,720 --> 00:00:36,760 Speaker 1: from the AFC South. Frank Frangie Jacksonville Jaguars. 7 00:00:36,800 --> 00:00:39,199 Speaker 2: How are you? I'm well. Thank you for doing this. 8 00:00:39,280 --> 00:00:40,880 Speaker 2: I love doing this. I look forward to it. 9 00:00:41,040 --> 00:00:45,640 Speaker 1: Matt Taylor, how are we doing? Indianapolis Colts and the Champ? 10 00:00:45,920 --> 00:00:49,520 Speaker 1: He's here, The champ is here, the belt, Mark vandermir 11 00:00:49,680 --> 00:00:53,519 Speaker 1: Houston Texans. Congratulations on being the AFC South Champions. 12 00:00:53,600 --> 00:00:55,480 Speaker 3: Thank you, Migaan, thanks for doing this. This is a 13 00:00:55,520 --> 00:00:57,600 Speaker 3: wonderful thing that we all do. And who would have 14 00:00:57,640 --> 00:01:01,920 Speaker 3: thunk it Hi that I'd be sitting here with the Yeah, Frank, 15 00:01:02,280 --> 00:01:04,320 Speaker 3: I wrestled it away from you. 16 00:01:04,200 --> 00:01:07,240 Speaker 4: As we didn't have a good last month. We had 17 00:01:07,680 --> 00:01:08,360 Speaker 4: the last month. 18 00:01:08,520 --> 00:01:10,560 Speaker 3: We have so much to do with the wins and losses, 19 00:01:11,520 --> 00:01:13,200 Speaker 3: but that doesn't mean we can't claim them. 20 00:01:13,560 --> 00:01:16,120 Speaker 5: I can tell you this. I sounded much better this year. 21 00:01:16,319 --> 00:01:17,280 Speaker 2: I don't know what it was. 22 00:01:17,720 --> 00:01:21,360 Speaker 3: People were coming up like you know, last year we 23 00:01:21,400 --> 00:01:22,880 Speaker 3: got blown out in some game and I thought I 24 00:01:22,920 --> 00:01:23,880 Speaker 3: did a pretty good broadcast. 25 00:01:23,959 --> 00:01:25,760 Speaker 5: But it doesn't matter. I get it. This is what 26 00:01:25,800 --> 00:01:27,600 Speaker 5: it's about, and it's wonderful. 27 00:01:27,240 --> 00:01:31,880 Speaker 1: Winning and losing. It's so underrated towards the perception of 28 00:01:31,920 --> 00:01:37,640 Speaker 1: your performance, no course, no question how that factors in 29 00:01:37,920 --> 00:01:38,440 Speaker 1: for people. 30 00:01:39,000 --> 00:01:42,200 Speaker 3: We've all had good games or are good wins where 31 00:01:42,240 --> 00:01:44,080 Speaker 3: we feel like I can't speak for you, guys, but 32 00:01:44,080 --> 00:01:46,640 Speaker 3: I would imagine this be the case where you feel 33 00:01:46,640 --> 00:01:48,600 Speaker 3: like I could have done a better jo yes day. 34 00:01:48,800 --> 00:01:51,000 Speaker 3: You know, I could have done certain calls, could have 35 00:01:51,120 --> 00:01:54,400 Speaker 3: nailed those better. And then you have blowouts where I thought, 36 00:01:54,520 --> 00:01:56,640 Speaker 3: man or not blowouts, but just losses. I thought that 37 00:01:56,720 --> 00:01:58,480 Speaker 3: was a really good broadcast. I mean we hit on 38 00:01:58,680 --> 00:02:01,720 Speaker 3: all the points. Ye halls were clean, everything was good. 39 00:02:02,000 --> 00:02:03,800 Speaker 3: But you want your team to win. That's why we 40 00:02:03,840 --> 00:02:06,680 Speaker 3: are voices of the team, because we want to ride 41 00:02:06,720 --> 00:02:09,280 Speaker 3: those highs and not preferably not the lows. 42 00:02:09,360 --> 00:02:11,760 Speaker 5: But it makes the highs that much more appealing. 43 00:02:11,919 --> 00:02:16,640 Speaker 4: And my point is right, if we're winning, they love us, okay, 44 00:02:17,160 --> 00:02:19,840 Speaker 4: and and if we're losing, it's the worst broadcast they 45 00:02:19,880 --> 00:02:21,960 Speaker 4: ever heard. I mean, there's a lot to that. 46 00:02:22,040 --> 00:02:25,000 Speaker 1: Well, we do the thing where they put a GoPro 47 00:02:25,120 --> 00:02:28,720 Speaker 1: in our booth and do like a call of the 48 00:02:28,760 --> 00:02:30,720 Speaker 1: game deal e oh, which is kind of I don't 49 00:02:30,720 --> 00:02:32,079 Speaker 1: know what I think of it, but they do it. 50 00:02:32,080 --> 00:02:34,839 Speaker 2: It's sponsored. Yeah, good, so we're right. 51 00:02:34,960 --> 00:02:38,480 Speaker 1: It's sponsored, and for for the people listening, that's a 52 00:02:38,520 --> 00:02:41,160 Speaker 1: big deal to what we do. Anytime you say something 53 00:02:41,200 --> 00:02:44,919 Speaker 1: is sponsored, you have Mark vander Meer's reaction, which is good. Yes, 54 00:02:45,480 --> 00:02:48,600 Speaker 1: but that means that means security. That means you got 55 00:02:48,639 --> 00:02:52,919 Speaker 1: to have one every Tuesday. So you win and it's 56 00:02:52,960 --> 00:02:56,800 Speaker 1: like there's a touchdown pass and it's exciting and whatever, 57 00:02:57,560 --> 00:02:59,760 Speaker 1: and you know, you see the comments. Oh it's so 58 00:03:00,080 --> 00:03:03,840 Speaker 1: on and we really enjoyed you lose. Why are you 59 00:03:04,000 --> 00:03:04,760 Speaker 1: posting this? 60 00:03:04,919 --> 00:03:08,799 Speaker 2: Yes, why are you celebrating medioc Yeah, yeah, that's the 61 00:03:08,840 --> 00:03:09,200 Speaker 2: whole thing. 62 00:03:09,480 --> 00:03:11,679 Speaker 4: We only I think ours only goes out. That part 63 00:03:11,720 --> 00:03:13,079 Speaker 4: only goes out kind of like when we win. 64 00:03:13,280 --> 00:03:14,920 Speaker 2: Oh okay, good for you. 65 00:03:15,200 --> 00:03:17,600 Speaker 4: But the beauty of the go pros is fantastic because 66 00:03:17,720 --> 00:03:21,120 Speaker 4: it's not like these booths have a pro go pro spot, right, 67 00:03:21,240 --> 00:03:24,560 Speaker 4: so some go here while they go here, and it 68 00:03:24,600 --> 00:03:26,359 Speaker 4: was perfect because then it had a great shot of 69 00:03:26,440 --> 00:03:29,600 Speaker 4: my bald spot, so maybe we can move it down 70 00:03:29,720 --> 00:03:31,480 Speaker 4: just a hair, just a little bit. We have a 71 00:03:31,480 --> 00:03:32,320 Speaker 4: ball with that as well. 72 00:03:32,919 --> 00:03:34,800 Speaker 2: So you were going to say, Matthew. 73 00:03:34,320 --> 00:03:36,640 Speaker 6: Well, I was just gonna agree that when you win, 74 00:03:37,040 --> 00:03:39,200 Speaker 6: I mean, you guys experienced this too. When you win, 75 00:03:39,520 --> 00:03:42,680 Speaker 6: Monday is so much easier, talking about coach getting coffee, 76 00:03:42,720 --> 00:03:45,480 Speaker 6: the water cooler in the break room and that that's 77 00:03:45,520 --> 00:03:47,600 Speaker 6: that's the joy of it is you come back on 78 00:03:47,680 --> 00:03:50,760 Speaker 6: Monday and everything is a little bit smoother. People are 79 00:03:50,800 --> 00:03:53,920 Speaker 6: more inclined to give you more. So the Monday Show, 80 00:03:53,960 --> 00:03:55,760 Speaker 6: the coaches Show, is a better show. 81 00:03:55,760 --> 00:03:58,000 Speaker 2: Following a win as well. Oh, no question. 82 00:03:58,080 --> 00:04:00,360 Speaker 3: I think one thing though that we go through being 83 00:04:00,440 --> 00:04:04,160 Speaker 3: around on Mondays is that win or lose, they jump 84 00:04:04,200 --> 00:04:06,880 Speaker 3: into next week so fast because they have to. 85 00:04:07,360 --> 00:04:08,640 Speaker 2: If it's like a two hour window. 86 00:04:08,800 --> 00:04:10,880 Speaker 5: Yeah, you think about what they're going through as coaches. 87 00:04:10,960 --> 00:04:13,360 Speaker 3: Especially players may be a little bit different, but his coaches, 88 00:04:13,520 --> 00:04:15,160 Speaker 3: they got to move win or lose, they got to 89 00:04:15,200 --> 00:04:18,800 Speaker 3: move into next week. It's over just shoving aside, move 90 00:04:18,839 --> 00:04:21,359 Speaker 3: into next week. But they do like talking about the 91 00:04:21,400 --> 00:04:23,960 Speaker 3: wins more. And you know, we all know how to 92 00:04:24,000 --> 00:04:27,240 Speaker 3: ask the questions, and I think these are important questions. 93 00:04:27,440 --> 00:04:29,200 Speaker 3: You know, what did you do well that you can 94 00:04:29,240 --> 00:04:31,800 Speaker 3: carry forward? What do you need to improve upon? There 95 00:04:31,800 --> 00:04:33,640 Speaker 3: are ways to handle it, because I know you guys 96 00:04:33,680 --> 00:04:36,039 Speaker 3: get peppered with this. Are the things you can't say? 97 00:04:36,400 --> 00:04:37,760 Speaker 3: Are the things you can't talk about? 98 00:04:37,839 --> 00:04:40,800 Speaker 2: Are your questions handed to you? Are they scripted for you? 99 00:04:41,120 --> 00:04:43,280 Speaker 3: No one has ever said anything to me about anything, 100 00:04:43,400 --> 00:04:45,320 Speaker 3: but you know, and I think we're all similar in 101 00:04:45,320 --> 00:04:47,480 Speaker 3: this way. My whole career, I've been the voice of 102 00:04:47,520 --> 00:04:49,320 Speaker 3: a team, you know, and I've always known how to 103 00:04:49,360 --> 00:04:52,120 Speaker 3: handle those things right. And when you're doing basketball, I 104 00:04:52,120 --> 00:04:54,240 Speaker 3: mean I did a three and twenty three basketball team 105 00:04:54,279 --> 00:04:57,280 Speaker 3: once upon a time, you know, you learn how to 106 00:04:57,320 --> 00:05:01,080 Speaker 3: ask the creative questions in that ironment when your team 107 00:05:01,120 --> 00:05:03,080 Speaker 3: is losing. I say this to everybody too, in our 108 00:05:03,120 --> 00:05:06,359 Speaker 3: digital social every department that does team related content. 109 00:05:06,839 --> 00:05:09,440 Speaker 5: When you lose, you will get better at your craft. 110 00:05:09,800 --> 00:05:11,839 Speaker 5: That will improve you even more than winning. 111 00:05:11,960 --> 00:05:14,279 Speaker 4: And in my situation marks a little different. You guys 112 00:05:14,320 --> 00:05:16,200 Speaker 4: work for the teams. I don't work for the team. 113 00:05:16,279 --> 00:05:20,800 Speaker 4: So I come in for the game. Well I do, 114 00:05:20,880 --> 00:05:24,560 Speaker 4: but I don't. But so, But to your point, I 115 00:05:24,600 --> 00:05:28,680 Speaker 4: think people understand that what I'm on every afternoon. I 116 00:05:28,720 --> 00:05:30,960 Speaker 4: work for the team. Yeah, so I'm not going to 117 00:05:31,040 --> 00:05:33,760 Speaker 4: ask the hard hitting how in the world could you 118 00:05:33,800 --> 00:05:35,080 Speaker 4: have blitzed in that situation? 119 00:05:35,400 --> 00:05:37,400 Speaker 2: That's not my job. But who does? Who does? 120 00:05:37,720 --> 00:05:41,640 Speaker 3: My rebuttal is this? Who does ask those questions? I'm thinking, Hey, 121 00:05:41,920 --> 00:05:44,760 Speaker 3: mister talk radio guy, go to the press conference. You've 122 00:05:44,800 --> 00:05:47,640 Speaker 3: got access to these people, to the head coach. You 123 00:05:47,640 --> 00:05:50,159 Speaker 3: could ask them yourself the tough question. But you don't. 124 00:05:50,200 --> 00:05:52,360 Speaker 3: Most of these guys don't have the guts to show 125 00:05:52,480 --> 00:05:55,920 Speaker 3: up at the presser and ask those questions that they're 126 00:05:55,960 --> 00:05:58,920 Speaker 3: throwing out to their audience rhetorically on the air. 127 00:05:59,400 --> 00:06:01,640 Speaker 6: They'll play the left sound bite from the day before 128 00:06:01,680 --> 00:06:02,960 Speaker 6: and then rip it for three hours. 129 00:06:03,560 --> 00:06:06,240 Speaker 1: Go to the pres conference, but there's certain questions you 130 00:06:06,400 --> 00:06:08,680 Speaker 1: always have to ask. I don't know if you guys, 131 00:06:08,680 --> 00:06:11,720 Speaker 1: do you do a postgame interview immediately after with the coach? 132 00:06:12,000 --> 00:06:12,280 Speaker 5: I don't. 133 00:06:12,279 --> 00:06:12,840 Speaker 2: I don't, I don't. 134 00:06:13,080 --> 00:06:16,360 Speaker 1: Next day, No I do. It's next day, So I 135 00:06:16,720 --> 00:06:19,359 Speaker 1: would you know? And I'm going to ask if there's 136 00:06:19,360 --> 00:06:23,080 Speaker 1: something involving the quarterback. If he throws four touchdown passes, 137 00:06:23,160 --> 00:06:26,400 Speaker 1: if he throws four interceptions, if he gets hurt, there's 138 00:06:26,480 --> 00:06:28,719 Speaker 1: gonna be a quarterback question. Yeah, you have to do that, 139 00:06:29,160 --> 00:06:32,280 Speaker 1: you know why because the fans are interested in the quarterback. 140 00:06:32,360 --> 00:06:33,440 Speaker 2: That's right, It's a thing. 141 00:06:33,839 --> 00:06:34,039 Speaker 5: Yeah. 142 00:06:34,200 --> 00:06:36,919 Speaker 2: And so Mike Rabel, he would get so mad. 143 00:06:36,760 --> 00:06:40,640 Speaker 1: At me because he would say, you know, I would say, 144 00:06:41,480 --> 00:06:42,120 Speaker 1: is Will Levice? 145 00:06:42,200 --> 00:06:42,520 Speaker 2: Okay? 146 00:06:42,760 --> 00:06:45,960 Speaker 1: Is Ryan Tannehill? Is he gonna you know, do we 147 00:06:46,000 --> 00:06:48,320 Speaker 1: have a report on him yet after injury? And he no, 148 00:06:48,480 --> 00:06:50,640 Speaker 1: I get the same thing every time. And he finally, 149 00:06:50,720 --> 00:06:52,360 Speaker 1: you know, sort of said to me at one point, 150 00:06:52,400 --> 00:06:54,440 Speaker 1: he goes, why do you know I'm not going to 151 00:06:54,600 --> 00:06:58,599 Speaker 1: answer that? Why do you ask? And I explained it 152 00:06:58,640 --> 00:07:02,039 Speaker 1: to him. It's kind of the job. You know, it's 153 00:07:02,120 --> 00:07:06,200 Speaker 1: not the hard hitting, crazy whatever. It's just, you know, 154 00:07:06,680 --> 00:07:09,640 Speaker 1: these are things that the fan base is going to 155 00:07:09,720 --> 00:07:11,800 Speaker 1: want to know. And so if we have to go 156 00:07:11,840 --> 00:07:15,360 Speaker 1: through the dance of me asking you not to answered, fine, right, 157 00:07:15,400 --> 00:07:17,600 Speaker 1: that's okay if that's what you want to do, but 158 00:07:17,760 --> 00:07:19,280 Speaker 1: just understand to do my job. 159 00:07:19,320 --> 00:07:20,280 Speaker 2: And he totally got that. 160 00:07:20,320 --> 00:07:23,440 Speaker 1: You got to ask the question, right, He totally understood. 161 00:07:23,440 --> 00:07:26,160 Speaker 1: He's like, Okay, I get it. You know, I get 162 00:07:26,200 --> 00:07:28,040 Speaker 1: why you feel like you have to do that from 163 00:07:28,120 --> 00:07:30,720 Speaker 1: the fans perspective, because that's who you do it for. 164 00:07:30,720 --> 00:07:33,560 Speaker 4: We and I think most of us. I'm pretty sure 165 00:07:33,600 --> 00:07:35,120 Speaker 4: this case with you three guys right now, and I 166 00:07:35,120 --> 00:07:37,080 Speaker 4: know it is with me. We have good coaches. Well, 167 00:07:37,120 --> 00:07:39,920 Speaker 4: I mean our guy to work with, Doug Peterson's fantastic, 168 00:07:40,040 --> 00:07:41,360 Speaker 4: and I get that, and I get the sense you 169 00:07:41,440 --> 00:07:43,960 Speaker 4: and I've talked about the Miko. Yeah, and I know 170 00:07:43,760 --> 00:07:45,640 Speaker 4: you you're getting the no Shane steike in and so 171 00:07:45,840 --> 00:07:47,600 Speaker 4: and so you're getting anew a new coach with Brian. 172 00:07:47,680 --> 00:07:50,480 Speaker 4: But we were lucky there. It's not the old school 173 00:07:50,520 --> 00:07:52,960 Speaker 4: guy as much. We've all had that guy probably, but 174 00:07:52,960 --> 00:07:55,320 Speaker 4: it's not the old school guy as much as you go, Okay, 175 00:07:55,320 --> 00:07:57,240 Speaker 4: I'm want to ask this question. He's gonna jump it 176 00:07:57,320 --> 00:07:59,320 Speaker 4: in here. Well, I don't think we in today's day 177 00:07:59,320 --> 00:08:01,360 Speaker 4: and age, certainly, I don't think we have that. I 178 00:08:01,360 --> 00:08:02,560 Speaker 4: think we have pretty good coaches. 179 00:08:02,800 --> 00:08:05,280 Speaker 6: No, I mean with with Frank and now with Shane. 180 00:08:06,280 --> 00:08:08,440 Speaker 6: I've never had a situation where I felt like I 181 00:08:08,440 --> 00:08:11,480 Speaker 6: couldn't ask a question because it was kind of towing 182 00:08:11,520 --> 00:08:14,600 Speaker 6: the line in terms of the seriousness the severity of it. 183 00:08:15,080 --> 00:08:16,800 Speaker 6: They know that we have a job to do, and 184 00:08:16,920 --> 00:08:19,720 Speaker 6: it's our name on the show, right It's you know 185 00:08:19,920 --> 00:08:23,760 Speaker 6: Colts Roundtable Live with Matt Taylor, So there's an integrity 186 00:08:24,120 --> 00:08:28,280 Speaker 6: aspect of it as well. There's a journalistic component to 187 00:08:28,360 --> 00:08:30,920 Speaker 6: it too, where you have to ask the questions to 188 00:08:30,960 --> 00:08:33,640 Speaker 6: your point, Mike, that the fans want to know. And 189 00:08:34,040 --> 00:08:36,440 Speaker 6: I think the guys that I've dealt with, Frank, Chris, 190 00:08:36,679 --> 00:08:40,960 Speaker 6: now Shane, they've all been incredibly supportive of me doing 191 00:08:41,000 --> 00:08:43,359 Speaker 6: my job. And I've never been called to the principal's 192 00:08:43,360 --> 00:08:46,160 Speaker 6: office because as long as you're objective and as long 193 00:08:46,200 --> 00:08:48,040 Speaker 6: as you're fair, they know you've got a job to do. 194 00:08:48,360 --> 00:08:51,120 Speaker 3: I think with the tough questions, whether it's uh, why 195 00:08:51,200 --> 00:08:52,880 Speaker 3: did you go for it on fourth and one or 196 00:08:52,920 --> 00:08:55,800 Speaker 3: something like that, or what is the health or whatever 197 00:08:55,880 --> 00:08:59,560 Speaker 3: situation might present itself, you give them the opportunity to 198 00:08:59,640 --> 00:09:03,120 Speaker 3: answer a question and then you don't drive it home. 199 00:09:03,679 --> 00:09:05,600 Speaker 3: When I was at UMass, you know, Cali Perry was 200 00:09:05,600 --> 00:09:07,719 Speaker 3: there the year before. The play by play guy at 201 00:09:07,760 --> 00:09:11,160 Speaker 3: the Caliperi Show pressed him on a suspended player and 202 00:09:11,200 --> 00:09:13,600 Speaker 3: just kept saying, Hey, these fans are all here for 203 00:09:13,640 --> 00:09:16,000 Speaker 3: an answer, and I think you got to give them more, 204 00:09:16,080 --> 00:09:16,880 Speaker 3: like he said. 205 00:09:16,640 --> 00:09:17,360 Speaker 5: Stuff like that. 206 00:09:17,440 --> 00:09:18,520 Speaker 2: So that's how you got the job. 207 00:09:19,280 --> 00:09:19,679 Speaker 5: Kind of. 208 00:09:23,160 --> 00:09:26,680 Speaker 3: It. Sure, but I learned then and other times that yeah, 209 00:09:26,720 --> 00:09:29,319 Speaker 3: you have to just throw it out there, give them 210 00:09:29,320 --> 00:09:31,360 Speaker 3: the chance to answer, but you don't press them. 211 00:09:31,480 --> 00:09:32,480 Speaker 2: It's their show. 212 00:09:32,520 --> 00:09:34,320 Speaker 5: That's the other thing. People don't realize. 213 00:09:34,480 --> 00:09:38,880 Speaker 3: It's the Demico Ryan's show that we're doing. So we're 214 00:09:38,880 --> 00:09:43,120 Speaker 3: not here to you know, cook and and showcase ourselves 215 00:09:43,120 --> 00:09:46,440 Speaker 3: and our Mike Wallace, Jim Gray abilities Gray back in 216 00:09:46,480 --> 00:09:48,480 Speaker 3: the day, because the Brady interviews are not are not 217 00:09:48,520 --> 00:09:50,959 Speaker 3: the Jim Gray that we grew up with, right right, 218 00:09:51,000 --> 00:09:53,760 Speaker 3: they're they're they're softball and it's nice. It's a good podcast. 219 00:09:53,800 --> 00:09:56,040 Speaker 3: But I'm listening to Jim Gray now, it's like we 220 00:09:56,160 --> 00:09:58,280 Speaker 3: got Tommy here, and Tommy, what'd you think of that? 221 00:09:59,040 --> 00:10:01,360 Speaker 3: Back in the day, Jim Grace to press people be 222 00:10:01,480 --> 00:10:02,120 Speaker 3: on belief? 223 00:10:03,040 --> 00:10:05,679 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean he was like Sam Donaldson. He was 224 00:10:05,720 --> 00:10:11,680 Speaker 1: the Sam Donaldson. People listening right now have no idea. 225 00:10:12,120 --> 00:10:13,240 Speaker 1: I might as well have mentioned it. 226 00:10:14,400 --> 00:10:16,720 Speaker 5: That's right, that's Marconi invented. 227 00:10:16,960 --> 00:10:21,800 Speaker 1: Never mind, all right, so Mark vand Meir, you're the champion. 228 00:10:21,840 --> 00:10:23,560 Speaker 1: You get to lead. What do you want to throw out? 229 00:10:23,760 --> 00:10:25,760 Speaker 1: This is what we did last year. We now do 230 00:10:25,880 --> 00:10:28,440 Speaker 1: have questions or topics what do you want to know 231 00:10:28,520 --> 00:10:30,679 Speaker 1: from the group or one member of the group. 232 00:10:30,520 --> 00:10:34,680 Speaker 3: Or all right, I want to know from Frank Frank Frangie, 233 00:10:34,920 --> 00:10:36,440 Speaker 3: how are they going to bounce back? 234 00:10:36,800 --> 00:10:37,120 Speaker 2: What? 235 00:10:37,120 --> 00:10:37,240 Speaker 5: What? 236 00:10:37,360 --> 00:10:38,800 Speaker 2: Because they flipped the script. 237 00:10:39,400 --> 00:10:42,559 Speaker 3: They had a bad start in twenty two, great finish, 238 00:10:43,640 --> 00:10:47,040 Speaker 3: great start in twenty three and a bad finish. So 239 00:10:47,679 --> 00:10:49,600 Speaker 3: what's the script going to be this year? And how 240 00:10:49,640 --> 00:10:51,600 Speaker 3: do they flip it? Here's what I flip it to 241 00:10:51,920 --> 00:10:52,800 Speaker 3: a consistency. 242 00:10:53,040 --> 00:10:54,319 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah. 243 00:10:54,360 --> 00:10:57,200 Speaker 4: Listen, the Jags haven't been very good for a lot 244 00:10:57,240 --> 00:10:57,640 Speaker 4: of years. 245 00:10:57,640 --> 00:10:58,240 Speaker 2: We all know that. 246 00:10:58,920 --> 00:11:01,160 Speaker 4: I think they now have a pretty good team. I 247 00:11:01,600 --> 00:11:04,120 Speaker 4: think we have a pretty good winning season. Yeah yeah, 248 00:11:04,360 --> 00:11:07,360 Speaker 4: well right, Well, to put it in perspective for you, 249 00:11:07,880 --> 00:11:10,160 Speaker 4: since the turn of the century, in the last twenty 250 00:11:10,240 --> 00:11:13,680 Speaker 4: four years, this franchise has had six winning seasons. Okay, 251 00:11:13,800 --> 00:11:15,839 Speaker 4: he's had two of them, all right, So he's a 252 00:11:15,880 --> 00:11:18,600 Speaker 4: pretty good coach. Wow, they've got a pretty good roster, mark, 253 00:11:18,880 --> 00:11:22,280 Speaker 4: I think. Listen, we've all seen it. When it starts 254 00:11:22,280 --> 00:11:26,080 Speaker 4: going downhill, it starts going downhill, you lose guys, lose confidence, 255 00:11:26,080 --> 00:11:29,600 Speaker 4: you get some guys injured. They had a bad five weeks, 256 00:11:29,640 --> 00:11:31,880 Speaker 4: there's no getting around it. And the five weeks they 257 00:11:31,880 --> 00:11:33,920 Speaker 4: started eight and three. They were on top of the world. 258 00:11:34,040 --> 00:11:35,400 Speaker 4: It looked like they were going to cruise to the 259 00:11:35,400 --> 00:11:37,880 Speaker 4: division title, and then we kind of everything went wrong. 260 00:11:38,280 --> 00:11:39,800 Speaker 4: I think they've got a pretty good team. They've got 261 00:11:39,840 --> 00:11:42,000 Speaker 4: to get better at the line of scrimmage when playing 262 00:11:42,040 --> 00:11:44,720 Speaker 4: the Titans, trying to trying to get it just just 263 00:11:45,040 --> 00:11:47,080 Speaker 4: after all the bad that happens. Win that game and 264 00:11:47,080 --> 00:11:49,880 Speaker 4: you win the division. And the Titans gutted them up front. 265 00:11:50,240 --> 00:11:54,079 Speaker 4: Derek Henry's still running, you know, and the Jacks couldn't 266 00:11:54,160 --> 00:11:56,360 Speaker 4: run and couldn't stop, and that has been their thing. 267 00:11:56,440 --> 00:11:58,160 Speaker 4: So I think making the line of scrimmage. Giving you 268 00:11:58,160 --> 00:11:59,680 Speaker 4: a long answer, short question, I'm a radio guess what 269 00:11:59,679 --> 00:12:02,200 Speaker 4: we do? I think, uh. I think getting better at 270 00:12:02,200 --> 00:12:04,480 Speaker 4: the line of scrimmage is the big thing. Getting the 271 00:12:04,520 --> 00:12:07,040 Speaker 4: receivers healthy they've got they're gonna change, and they brought 272 00:12:07,080 --> 00:12:09,920 Speaker 4: in Ryan Nielson, a Brandon defensive coordinator. I think they're 273 00:12:09,920 --> 00:12:12,840 Speaker 4: gonna change, and they brought in a whole new staff defensively. 274 00:12:12,840 --> 00:12:14,319 Speaker 4: So I think they're gonna change what they do. But Mark, 275 00:12:14,360 --> 00:12:15,800 Speaker 4: they've got to get better at the line of the 276 00:12:15,840 --> 00:12:18,200 Speaker 4: line of scrimmage. It's still it's still a line of 277 00:12:18,200 --> 00:12:20,600 Speaker 4: scrimmage sport. As much as we love our quarterbacks and 278 00:12:20,640 --> 00:12:22,680 Speaker 4: we love seeing the ball fly all over, the guy 279 00:12:22,720 --> 00:12:25,079 Speaker 4: that's toughest at the line of scrimmage usually wins the game. 280 00:12:25,120 --> 00:12:28,480 Speaker 4: As good as Patrick Mahomes is, the Chiefs are physical. 281 00:12:28,559 --> 00:12:28,760 Speaker 2: Man. 282 00:12:29,000 --> 00:12:30,959 Speaker 4: They might have had the best defense in football in 283 00:12:31,000 --> 00:12:33,520 Speaker 4: there and they won because of that physicality. And so 284 00:12:34,040 --> 00:12:35,720 Speaker 4: that's what the Jacks have to do better. And that's 285 00:12:35,720 --> 00:12:38,920 Speaker 4: the hope is that they've got the quarterback. He was 286 00:12:39,040 --> 00:12:40,840 Speaker 4: up and down, but they got the quarterback. They've they 287 00:12:40,920 --> 00:12:43,320 Speaker 4: they've got a pretty good receiver room. The back end 288 00:12:43,360 --> 00:12:45,160 Speaker 4: of the defense isn't bad. They got to get more physical. 289 00:12:45,400 --> 00:12:47,080 Speaker 4: That's what I think they'd have to do. 290 00:12:47,440 --> 00:12:49,720 Speaker 1: Good to your question, all right, Matt Taylor, No boy, 291 00:12:49,920 --> 00:12:52,800 Speaker 1: what do you Last year you threw out booth positions, 292 00:12:53,440 --> 00:12:55,720 Speaker 1: which ended up being a great topic. 293 00:12:56,320 --> 00:13:03,120 Speaker 2: Everyone who was advertised the podcast stuff. Yeah. 294 00:13:03,160 --> 00:13:05,640 Speaker 1: Sorry, you got to go inside baseball a little bit, sure, 295 00:13:05,720 --> 00:13:06,880 Speaker 1: but it was a good topic. 296 00:13:06,960 --> 00:13:07,400 Speaker 2: There you go. 297 00:13:07,559 --> 00:13:09,520 Speaker 4: Sorry, I mean, even before Matt goes, let me say 298 00:13:09,520 --> 00:13:12,040 Speaker 4: about that topic. I can't tell many people asked me said, 299 00:13:12,640 --> 00:13:15,480 Speaker 4: did you guys, did rain really fall on Matt? When 300 00:13:15,480 --> 00:13:18,160 Speaker 4: he was doing the broadcast. Remember you said yes, And 301 00:13:18,200 --> 00:13:20,520 Speaker 4: I said, well, you have to understand. You know how 302 00:13:20,520 --> 00:13:25,080 Speaker 4: at Iowa the opponents, the coach would parents would paint 303 00:13:25,120 --> 00:13:26,240 Speaker 4: the visiting locker room pink. 304 00:13:26,360 --> 00:13:28,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, right, right, right, right right? 305 00:13:28,520 --> 00:13:32,840 Speaker 4: Okay, well we drenched the opposing broadcast that all the phone. 306 00:13:32,880 --> 00:13:35,360 Speaker 6: There's a bucket next to me, just collecting all It's 307 00:13:35,400 --> 00:13:36,959 Speaker 6: all part of the psychological play. 308 00:13:37,679 --> 00:13:40,080 Speaker 2: We had a lot of week seventeen, twenty nineteen. 309 00:13:40,120 --> 00:13:43,360 Speaker 6: I think it was like a monsoon in the he remembers, yeah, exactly. 310 00:13:43,840 --> 00:13:45,280 Speaker 6: Uh so what you want me to throw it to 311 00:13:46,640 --> 00:13:50,240 Speaker 6: all the balls in my court? Yeah, I'll throw it 312 00:13:50,280 --> 00:13:53,080 Speaker 6: back to you, Mike. I mean we talked yesterday about 313 00:13:53,120 --> 00:13:56,160 Speaker 6: a new regime and your passing of the torch from 314 00:13:56,240 --> 00:13:58,800 Speaker 6: Ryan Tannehill to Will Levis. Let me ask you, in 315 00:13:58,840 --> 00:14:01,600 Speaker 6: this first off season from one regime to the next, 316 00:14:01,640 --> 00:14:04,920 Speaker 6: what does what does the ideal offseason look like for 317 00:14:05,000 --> 00:14:06,439 Speaker 6: the Titans going into. 318 00:14:06,320 --> 00:14:06,800 Speaker 2: Year one year? 319 00:14:06,840 --> 00:14:11,640 Speaker 1: It's literally the most interesting offseason this franchise has ever had. 320 00:14:13,400 --> 00:14:17,920 Speaker 1: Because this franchise, and I told Frank this yesterday, this 321 00:14:18,040 --> 00:14:23,000 Speaker 1: franchise had seven straight playoff teams as the Houston Oilers 322 00:14:23,000 --> 00:14:25,880 Speaker 1: from nineteen eighty seven to nineteen ninety three, they were 323 00:14:26,040 --> 00:14:28,560 Speaker 1: so not ready for the salarycap to come in in 324 00:14:28,640 --> 00:14:31,840 Speaker 1: nineteen ninety four they had to take the Warren Moon 325 00:14:31,920 --> 00:14:36,760 Speaker 1: teams apart, and so the Oilers then moving to Tennessee 326 00:14:36,760 --> 00:14:40,320 Speaker 1: and becoming the Titans, have always been behind the eight 327 00:14:40,440 --> 00:14:40,920 Speaker 1: ball on. 328 00:14:40,880 --> 00:14:41,560 Speaker 2: The salary cap. 329 00:14:41,720 --> 00:14:42,280 Speaker 5: Always. 330 00:14:42,440 --> 00:14:44,960 Speaker 1: We've had moments where we've been a little in front 331 00:14:45,000 --> 00:14:47,960 Speaker 1: of it, but it's like we've always been playing ketchup. 332 00:14:48,080 --> 00:14:52,320 Speaker 1: This year, with eighty million dollars or whatever it is, 333 00:14:52,480 --> 00:14:55,600 Speaker 1: this is the first time ever we've been able to 334 00:14:55,720 --> 00:14:58,640 Speaker 1: reset what we're going to do with the salarycap. So 335 00:14:59,480 --> 00:15:03,000 Speaker 1: you're making a Derrick Henry decision about more than him. 336 00:15:03,080 --> 00:15:05,320 Speaker 1: Are you going to pay a running back? Are you 337 00:15:05,400 --> 00:15:07,680 Speaker 1: going to pay corners? Are you gonna pay widers? Who 338 00:15:07,720 --> 00:15:10,600 Speaker 1: are you going to pay? As you stack it going forward? 339 00:15:11,440 --> 00:15:14,040 Speaker 1: If we have our guy at quarterback in will Levice, 340 00:15:14,160 --> 00:15:16,600 Speaker 1: which we hope we do, then you don't have to 341 00:15:16,600 --> 00:15:19,920 Speaker 1: pay him for two more years, and so you can 342 00:15:20,000 --> 00:15:22,680 Speaker 1: set this cap to when it's time to pay him 343 00:15:22,840 --> 00:15:25,160 Speaker 1: if you hope you have to. You can do it 344 00:15:25,200 --> 00:15:29,320 Speaker 1: without breaking up the club. So not only does it 345 00:15:29,760 --> 00:15:33,640 Speaker 1: turn with Brian Callahan coming in for Mike Vrabel. It 346 00:15:33,840 --> 00:15:37,480 Speaker 1: turns because the Titans are in a position where I 347 00:15:37,520 --> 00:15:41,400 Speaker 1: think they're resetting their whole plan for the first time 348 00:15:41,400 --> 00:15:46,360 Speaker 1: that we've ever seen. Sure, and it's gonna be absolutely 349 00:15:46,480 --> 00:15:50,200 Speaker 1: fascinating to see what's done in free agency and then 350 00:15:50,360 --> 00:15:54,640 Speaker 1: how that affects the draft. How do they play the 351 00:15:54,800 --> 00:15:58,000 Speaker 1: seventh pick. They don't have a third round pick because 352 00:15:58,040 --> 00:16:00,480 Speaker 1: they traded that three last year. Two go up and 353 00:16:00,520 --> 00:16:03,720 Speaker 1: get Levice in round two? So do they try to 354 00:16:03,760 --> 00:16:07,360 Speaker 1: back up and go get that at seven? You may 355 00:16:07,400 --> 00:16:10,320 Speaker 1: have a chance to back up because somebody may want 356 00:16:10,760 --> 00:16:15,480 Speaker 1: the third or fourth quarterback, and we're hoping we don't 357 00:16:15,520 --> 00:16:18,600 Speaker 1: need a quarterback. So you know, there are a lot 358 00:16:18,600 --> 00:16:21,000 Speaker 1: of things you're staking right here. And then Brian Callahan 359 00:16:21,080 --> 00:16:25,840 Speaker 1: comes in very different from Mike Rabel, I mean, way different. 360 00:16:27,000 --> 00:16:28,120 Speaker 1: Unbelievable staff. 361 00:16:28,200 --> 00:16:28,400 Speaker 2: Yeh. 362 00:16:28,680 --> 00:16:32,960 Speaker 1: That he has brought in, especially his dad. To get 363 00:16:32,960 --> 00:16:35,240 Speaker 1: Dinnard Wilson to run the defense and then to get 364 00:16:35,240 --> 00:16:37,680 Speaker 1: his dad to run the offensive line is just crazy good. 365 00:16:38,240 --> 00:16:40,880 Speaker 1: And so now we're sort of going to see. But 366 00:16:40,960 --> 00:16:45,080 Speaker 1: the nice thing that these people have is they're not 367 00:16:45,120 --> 00:16:47,000 Speaker 1: gonna have to take this thing all the way down 368 00:16:47,040 --> 00:16:51,600 Speaker 1: to the studs, I mean offense, frank, but they showed 369 00:16:51,600 --> 00:16:54,200 Speaker 1: in the last game of the season that they can 370 00:16:54,240 --> 00:16:58,680 Speaker 1: still play. The culture's not broken. Vrabel didn't have a 371 00:16:58,800 --> 00:17:02,120 Speaker 1: locker room problem, and they're not gonna have to jettison 372 00:17:02,160 --> 00:17:04,120 Speaker 1: a whole bunch of guys because. 373 00:17:03,800 --> 00:17:05,000 Speaker 2: They're trouble makers. 374 00:17:05,760 --> 00:17:08,680 Speaker 1: Still, They've got a lot of work to do, and 375 00:17:08,880 --> 00:17:11,560 Speaker 1: it's it's gonna be so much fun to see them 376 00:17:11,640 --> 00:17:12,439 Speaker 1: do this work. 377 00:17:13,160 --> 00:17:14,800 Speaker 2: Great stuff. I got one. 378 00:17:15,040 --> 00:17:17,439 Speaker 4: Okay, let me go to quarterbacks because I think I 379 00:17:17,480 --> 00:17:21,400 Speaker 4: think our division with quarterbacks is fascinating. We like our guy. 380 00:17:21,760 --> 00:17:23,520 Speaker 4: He had a tough year last year. He played through 381 00:17:23,520 --> 00:17:25,840 Speaker 4: an ankle, a knee, and shoulder of concussion. He really did. 382 00:17:26,040 --> 00:17:27,360 Speaker 4: It was a hard year. I still love. 383 00:17:27,440 --> 00:17:27,640 Speaker 2: Yeah. 384 00:17:27,840 --> 00:17:29,879 Speaker 4: I think he's going to be so good. But I 385 00:17:29,920 --> 00:17:32,640 Speaker 4: love where we are. I told you guys the story 386 00:17:32,680 --> 00:17:34,320 Speaker 4: last year when we did this. I caught a college 387 00:17:34,359 --> 00:17:36,920 Speaker 4: game two years ago and we had the off week, 388 00:17:37,000 --> 00:17:39,760 Speaker 4: so I had Ohio State Maryland, and so I went 389 00:17:39,800 --> 00:17:42,439 Speaker 4: to College Park, Maryland did the college game, and I 390 00:17:42,480 --> 00:17:45,560 Speaker 4: saw Stroud and also saw Talia tungua Iloa, the little 391 00:17:45,560 --> 00:17:47,480 Speaker 4: to his little brother, who was very good. It's like 392 00:17:47,480 --> 00:17:50,920 Speaker 4: a thirty eight thirty five game. But I remember thinking, God, 393 00:17:51,040 --> 00:17:52,800 Speaker 4: is that guy good? And I told you, guys this, 394 00:17:52,920 --> 00:17:54,840 Speaker 4: I said, I thought he was better than Bryce Young. 395 00:17:54,840 --> 00:17:57,080 Speaker 4: It's easy to say that now, but we had this conversation. 396 00:17:57,560 --> 00:17:59,879 Speaker 4: The way he saw the field, some of the throws 397 00:17:59,880 --> 00:18:02,879 Speaker 4: he made, you don't make it the college level. So 398 00:18:03,040 --> 00:18:05,760 Speaker 4: I wasn't shocked Mark that he turned out to be 399 00:18:05,840 --> 00:18:08,280 Speaker 4: what he was. I'm not surprised. I think it sounds 400 00:18:08,280 --> 00:18:09,920 Speaker 4: like it's easy to say now, but I heard you 401 00:18:10,040 --> 00:18:12,240 Speaker 4: last year. I was not surprised that c J. Stroud 402 00:18:12,280 --> 00:18:14,359 Speaker 4: became all that. So let's go around the room. You 403 00:18:14,400 --> 00:18:15,800 Speaker 4: guys go around. I want you to go first, because 404 00:18:15,800 --> 00:18:17,840 Speaker 4: you got the guy. Did you think he would be 405 00:18:17,920 --> 00:18:21,440 Speaker 4: that good at what's he liked to deal with? Tell 406 00:18:21,480 --> 00:18:23,280 Speaker 4: me about it, and I'm gonna ask you about Anthony. True, 407 00:18:23,280 --> 00:18:25,359 Speaker 4: I do know a little bit, but let's start with you. 408 00:18:25,400 --> 00:18:27,280 Speaker 4: Tell me all about c J. Stroud because he's a 409 00:18:27,280 --> 00:18:28,600 Speaker 4: cool story and a great player. 410 00:18:28,680 --> 00:18:30,920 Speaker 3: Well, I had no idea to be this good, all right, 411 00:18:31,000 --> 00:18:33,320 Speaker 3: this good this early or maybe ever, I don't I 412 00:18:33,359 --> 00:18:36,000 Speaker 3: didn't know what to expect. You never know what these guys, right, 413 00:18:36,040 --> 00:18:38,199 Speaker 3: I thought he'd be pretty good. And I thought I 414 00:18:38,240 --> 00:18:40,920 Speaker 3: had high hopes for Bobby Slow at the offensive coordinate. Now, 415 00:18:40,920 --> 00:18:44,160 Speaker 3: I thought they'd organize a good system, the quarterback could 416 00:18:44,160 --> 00:18:46,520 Speaker 3: be successful enough. I thought they'd run the ball a 417 00:18:46,560 --> 00:18:49,199 Speaker 3: lot better and he'd feed off that. First time I 418 00:18:49,200 --> 00:18:52,200 Speaker 3: meet CJ. Stroud, he said, he said, all right, what's 419 00:18:52,200 --> 00:18:55,320 Speaker 3: your name? He wanted it again, what do you do here? 420 00:18:55,520 --> 00:18:56,480 Speaker 2: You know? 421 00:18:56,720 --> 00:18:59,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, this is like Demiko was when he was a rookie. 422 00:18:59,800 --> 00:19:02,480 Speaker 3: He wanted to understand people in the organization who were 423 00:19:02,520 --> 00:19:05,760 Speaker 3: around him and what everybody did, because that's the kind 424 00:19:05,800 --> 00:19:09,600 Speaker 3: of person he is. In a professional environment, and Ohio 425 00:19:09,600 --> 00:19:12,400 Speaker 3: State is a very professional environment, and these college teams 426 00:19:12,400 --> 00:19:14,600 Speaker 3: that all have pro personnel departments now, so they're basically 427 00:19:14,600 --> 00:19:17,560 Speaker 3: pro teams. So he comes in and he fits right in, 428 00:19:17,920 --> 00:19:20,600 Speaker 3: and you see the guy. He's very genuine. He and 429 00:19:20,680 --> 00:19:23,560 Speaker 3: Will Anderson on Draft night that was real special and 430 00:19:23,600 --> 00:19:26,520 Speaker 3: they booke ended it with the NFL honors winning Offensive 431 00:19:26,560 --> 00:19:29,320 Speaker 3: and Defensive Rookie of the Year. Anyway, as CJ starts 432 00:19:29,320 --> 00:19:31,560 Speaker 3: to play, we could see it and we talked about 433 00:19:31,600 --> 00:19:33,840 Speaker 3: this week two against the Colts. We lost the game, 434 00:19:33,920 --> 00:19:36,120 Speaker 3: but he throws for well over three hundred and you're 435 00:19:36,160 --> 00:19:38,600 Speaker 3: thinking he's making a lot of throws he could play. 436 00:19:38,760 --> 00:19:42,400 Speaker 3: And then we beat the Jags down there in lopsided fashion. 437 00:19:42,520 --> 00:19:44,280 Speaker 5: I thought, Okay, this guy's good. 438 00:19:44,480 --> 00:19:46,840 Speaker 3: And then we blow out the Steelers at home, and 439 00:19:47,280 --> 00:19:50,040 Speaker 3: I thought, okay, we've got our guy. And I didn't 440 00:19:50,040 --> 00:19:51,600 Speaker 3: know where it was going to go from there. We 441 00:19:51,640 --> 00:19:54,280 Speaker 3: lost to Atlanta, but he played pretty well. We had 442 00:19:54,280 --> 00:19:56,679 Speaker 3: a bad game against Carolina on the road, but I 443 00:19:56,720 --> 00:19:58,600 Speaker 3: thought I never worried about that. 444 00:19:58,600 --> 00:19:59,280 Speaker 5: That was a hiccup. 445 00:19:59,320 --> 00:20:01,960 Speaker 3: Then when we beat Tampa Bay the way he did that, 446 00:20:02,320 --> 00:20:06,160 Speaker 3: leading him downfield in forty five ish seconds and hitting 447 00:20:06,160 --> 00:20:09,240 Speaker 3: it ten seconds ago, he snapping the ball and hitting 448 00:20:09,359 --> 00:20:11,399 Speaker 3: Tank Dell for the game winner, I thought. 449 00:20:11,200 --> 00:20:13,680 Speaker 5: This is it. So all throughout the year he kept 450 00:20:13,720 --> 00:20:14,480 Speaker 5: getting better too. 451 00:20:14,680 --> 00:20:16,639 Speaker 3: What do we always say, you got to improve, no 452 00:20:16,680 --> 00:20:18,439 Speaker 3: matter who you are, you got to get better. He 453 00:20:18,560 --> 00:20:20,840 Speaker 3: kept getting better, And then I thought when he got 454 00:20:20,920 --> 00:20:23,479 Speaker 3: the concussion, it was actually I don't want to call 455 00:20:23,480 --> 00:20:26,040 Speaker 3: it blessing in disguise, but I think being off his feet, 456 00:20:26,400 --> 00:20:28,480 Speaker 3: being out of the building for a week or two 457 00:20:28,840 --> 00:20:30,600 Speaker 3: just clear, you know, clearing his head. I hate to 458 00:20:30,640 --> 00:20:34,120 Speaker 3: use that terminology, but just enabling his body to hear 459 00:20:34,240 --> 00:20:36,680 Speaker 3: while his brain was getting better. His body's healing too, 460 00:20:36,880 --> 00:20:39,600 Speaker 3: and then we had a fantastic finish really but lost 461 00:20:39,600 --> 00:20:43,000 Speaker 3: to the Ravens. So I had no idea, Frank, but 462 00:20:43,359 --> 00:20:44,359 Speaker 3: I like what I'm seeing. 463 00:20:45,280 --> 00:20:48,119 Speaker 4: He's very good and you should tell me now, Anthony 464 00:20:48,240 --> 00:20:50,639 Speaker 4: Richardson is a wonderful kid. He's got to stay in 465 00:20:50,680 --> 00:20:52,399 Speaker 4: the field, right, I mean, I think that would be 466 00:20:52,440 --> 00:20:54,320 Speaker 4: the question. Tell me about getting to know him a 467 00:20:54,359 --> 00:20:56,280 Speaker 4: little bit and what are your expectations. 468 00:20:56,560 --> 00:20:59,359 Speaker 6: Well, I have similar experiences as Mark. I mean, he 469 00:20:59,520 --> 00:21:01,960 Speaker 6: is he just turned twenty one. He's twenty one years 470 00:21:02,000 --> 00:21:05,560 Speaker 6: old in May, and you talk about all the expectations 471 00:21:05,600 --> 00:21:09,080 Speaker 6: the face of a franchise. Now you're the marketing face 472 00:21:09,240 --> 00:21:12,680 Speaker 6: of an NFL team, and you played thirteen games coming 473 00:21:12,720 --> 00:21:17,359 Speaker 6: out out of college. And he was sensational in the 474 00:21:17,400 --> 00:21:20,080 Speaker 6: first month of the season. You know that first that 475 00:21:20,080 --> 00:21:22,520 Speaker 6: that Week two game that Mark alluded to. I mean, 476 00:21:22,560 --> 00:21:26,359 Speaker 6: Anthony Richardson is he's making people miss I mean he 477 00:21:26,400 --> 00:21:28,800 Speaker 6: had he had four rushing touchdowns in the first four 478 00:21:28,840 --> 00:21:32,359 Speaker 6: games of the season. Obviously he goes down a week five. 479 00:21:33,040 --> 00:21:34,920 Speaker 6: If you look at the totality of the season, he 480 00:21:34,960 --> 00:21:37,320 Speaker 6: played one hundred and seventy three snaps, which is about 481 00:21:37,359 --> 00:21:41,600 Speaker 6: fifteen percent of the overall offensive snaps for the season. 482 00:21:42,160 --> 00:21:44,600 Speaker 6: So there's no question that when he comes back next year, 483 00:21:44,640 --> 00:21:47,800 Speaker 6: he's gonna have to kind of retool his rookie season. 484 00:21:48,600 --> 00:21:52,240 Speaker 6: But what I told Mark yesterday was when you watched 485 00:21:52,320 --> 00:21:54,760 Speaker 6: him in OTAs, when you watched him in spring, when 486 00:21:54,800 --> 00:21:57,199 Speaker 6: you watched him in training camp, rarely did he not 487 00:21:57,400 --> 00:21:59,960 Speaker 6: go to the right place with the football. I think 488 00:22:00,119 --> 00:22:02,440 Speaker 6: that's the thing that surprised me the most with Anthony 489 00:22:02,520 --> 00:22:06,600 Speaker 6: Richardson is that he's a much better passer. He's more 490 00:22:06,720 --> 00:22:09,679 Speaker 6: accurate than I thought he would be. He's more calm 491 00:22:09,800 --> 00:22:11,200 Speaker 6: in the pocket than I thought. 492 00:22:11,000 --> 00:22:11,520 Speaker 2: He would be. 493 00:22:12,040 --> 00:22:15,479 Speaker 6: But the Colts don't want this past season and this 494 00:22:15,600 --> 00:22:18,480 Speaker 6: experience with him getting banged up because he had the concussion, 495 00:22:19,000 --> 00:22:20,960 Speaker 6: he had the ankle, so just a lot of time. 496 00:22:20,960 --> 00:22:23,720 Speaker 6: He had like four injuries in four games. He only 497 00:22:24,000 --> 00:22:28,240 Speaker 6: completed one game sixty minutes full one time. That was 498 00:22:28,280 --> 00:22:31,080 Speaker 6: the Week four game, I think against the Rams. But 499 00:22:32,119 --> 00:22:34,960 Speaker 6: what they don't want to do to Anthony Richardson is 500 00:22:35,119 --> 00:22:38,520 Speaker 6: curb his playing style. They don't want to change what 501 00:22:38,600 --> 00:22:43,040 Speaker 6: he does and what makes him special. But the contrarians 502 00:22:43,080 --> 00:22:45,880 Speaker 6: around town are saying you gotta teach him to slide 503 00:22:45,960 --> 00:22:48,040 Speaker 6: and you gotta protect him better. 504 00:22:48,040 --> 00:22:50,399 Speaker 1: Jump in because the play he was injured on that 505 00:22:50,560 --> 00:22:52,680 Speaker 1: ended the season, that was that was nothing. 506 00:22:54,640 --> 00:22:55,000 Speaker 2: Very much. 507 00:22:55,000 --> 00:22:59,080 Speaker 1: So, I mean, Harold Landry didn't hit him dirty, It wasn't. 508 00:22:59,480 --> 00:23:03,960 Speaker 1: I mean, he just got tackled the shoulder, and that 509 00:23:03,960 --> 00:23:06,879 Speaker 1: that would worry me. Yeah, you know, because if if 510 00:23:06,920 --> 00:23:09,359 Speaker 1: he'd been hit or bent in an unusual way or 511 00:23:09,720 --> 00:23:12,080 Speaker 1: I mean sometimes you see the injuries, say well that's weird. 512 00:23:12,240 --> 00:23:15,520 Speaker 2: That's why that happened. This was just a normal play, right. 513 00:23:15,480 --> 00:23:18,159 Speaker 6: And you don't want to take anything away from his 514 00:23:18,240 --> 00:23:21,320 Speaker 6: ability to be special, because that's why you drafted him 515 00:23:21,320 --> 00:23:24,119 Speaker 6: where you did. And I told Mark yesterday, I really 516 00:23:24,160 --> 00:23:26,399 Speaker 6: think that based on everything you heard at the end 517 00:23:26,400 --> 00:23:28,480 Speaker 6: of the draft last year, the comments and some of 518 00:23:28,520 --> 00:23:31,320 Speaker 6: the innuendos, I really do think if the Colts were 519 00:23:31,320 --> 00:23:34,680 Speaker 6: picking first overall last year, that Anthony Richardson was their 520 00:23:34,680 --> 00:23:37,080 Speaker 6: guy because they think that he has the highest ceiling. 521 00:23:37,520 --> 00:23:40,959 Speaker 6: He can do things that c J. Stroud couldn't do. Now, 522 00:23:40,960 --> 00:23:43,600 Speaker 6: obviously c J. Stroud is he's He's c J. 523 00:23:43,720 --> 00:23:44,040 Speaker 2: Stroud. 524 00:23:44,080 --> 00:23:47,080 Speaker 6: He turned into a fantastic player, and the Colts are 525 00:23:47,080 --> 00:23:48,640 Speaker 6: going to have to contend with that for the next 526 00:23:48,680 --> 00:23:52,119 Speaker 6: decade or so. But I think what you're going to 527 00:23:52,160 --> 00:23:54,040 Speaker 6: see as from the Colts, I think you're gonna see 528 00:23:54,040 --> 00:23:57,880 Speaker 6: Shanstyke and be a little bit more tactful, a little 529 00:23:57,880 --> 00:24:00,840 Speaker 6: bit more I don't know what the right word would be, 530 00:24:01,280 --> 00:24:03,520 Speaker 6: a little bit more precise, I guess, And how you 531 00:24:03,640 --> 00:24:06,600 Speaker 6: use Anthony Richardson kind of like how the Ravens use 532 00:24:06,680 --> 00:24:10,440 Speaker 6: Lamar Jackson. Give the ball to your best player when 533 00:24:10,480 --> 00:24:13,200 Speaker 6: the field shrinks, or when it's a third and short 534 00:24:13,240 --> 00:24:15,640 Speaker 6: and you gotta have a moment right inside the red 535 00:24:15,720 --> 00:24:18,120 Speaker 6: zone when yards are hard to come by. That's when 536 00:24:18,119 --> 00:24:20,119 Speaker 6: I think you're gonna see more of the design runs 537 00:24:20,400 --> 00:24:23,760 Speaker 6: from Anthony Richardson. But it's really fun to think about 538 00:24:24,000 --> 00:24:28,159 Speaker 6: the potential of Jonathan Taylor and Anthony Richardson in the 539 00:24:28,200 --> 00:24:31,480 Speaker 6: same backfield because those two guys together last year because 540 00:24:31,520 --> 00:24:35,439 Speaker 6: of Taylor's saga off the field and then Richardson's injury, 541 00:24:35,440 --> 00:24:38,760 Speaker 6: those two guys can play played they combined two snaps. 542 00:24:38,400 --> 00:24:41,560 Speaker 2: Together last year. Wow. Yeah, so virtually nothing. 543 00:24:42,040 --> 00:24:45,800 Speaker 6: So there's a lot of excitement on what the box 544 00:24:45,840 --> 00:24:49,480 Speaker 6: would look like against the run if you're playing the Colts. 545 00:24:49,480 --> 00:24:51,399 Speaker 6: I mean, how do you defend Jonathan Taylor. How do 546 00:24:51,400 --> 00:24:55,159 Speaker 6: you defend Anthony Richardson. Maybe you get Michael Pittman junior 547 00:24:55,200 --> 00:24:58,080 Speaker 6: back on the franchise tag, or you extend him so 548 00:24:58,119 --> 00:25:01,199 Speaker 6: you have that reliable pass catcher, that physical wide receiver. 549 00:25:01,960 --> 00:25:04,800 Speaker 6: But I think more so than anything within the passing game, 550 00:25:04,840 --> 00:25:07,520 Speaker 6: the Colts need some more pop on the outside, some 551 00:25:07,560 --> 00:25:10,800 Speaker 6: more explosive plays. But long win and answer to your question, 552 00:25:10,840 --> 00:25:15,280 Speaker 6: I think Anthony Richardson is so much more poised, mature 553 00:25:15,359 --> 00:25:19,000 Speaker 6: beyond his years, and just really exciting what he can do. 554 00:25:19,560 --> 00:25:23,080 Speaker 6: Because you guys know, within the Cults franchise it's been 555 00:25:23,240 --> 00:25:26,480 Speaker 6: Peyton Manning and Andrew luck In, Jim Harball. The Colts 556 00:25:26,480 --> 00:25:30,280 Speaker 6: have never had anything close to a quarterback like Anthony Richardson. 557 00:25:30,600 --> 00:25:32,440 Speaker 6: And based on his skill set and what we're seeing 558 00:25:32,440 --> 00:25:34,240 Speaker 6: now in the NFL, I think you have to have 559 00:25:34,680 --> 00:25:37,040 Speaker 6: what he can do to a degree to win big 560 00:25:37,080 --> 00:25:37,560 Speaker 6: in the NFL. 561 00:25:37,800 --> 00:25:40,600 Speaker 4: Everyone every quarterback's got to be able to move now everyone. 562 00:25:40,800 --> 00:25:42,560 Speaker 4: But to your point, which takes us down, I know 563 00:25:42,600 --> 00:25:46,080 Speaker 4: you love your guy. Will Levis is physical. He's a bodybuilder. 564 00:25:46,160 --> 00:25:48,800 Speaker 4: He's a big, physical guy. He's athletic, as heck, you 565 00:25:48,880 --> 00:25:50,760 Speaker 4: really like him. Tell us about will Luck because the 566 00:25:50,800 --> 00:25:52,359 Speaker 4: first time you and I talked about him, Yeah, we 567 00:25:52,440 --> 00:25:53,520 Speaker 4: had a little glow about you. 568 00:25:53,600 --> 00:25:53,959 Speaker 2: Yeah. 569 00:25:54,000 --> 00:25:56,960 Speaker 1: I liked him early on because in the rookie MIDI 570 00:25:57,000 --> 00:25:59,439 Speaker 1: camp when we sign him throw, We've never had a 571 00:25:59,480 --> 00:26:03,600 Speaker 1: guy with arm. You're like, oh, okay, I mean you'd 572 00:26:03,680 --> 00:26:06,560 Speaker 1: see Tannehill throw and Tannehill has a good arm. You're like, oh, 573 00:26:06,600 --> 00:26:09,159 Speaker 1: that's great. And Malik Willis has a good arm and 574 00:26:09,160 --> 00:26:11,080 Speaker 1: you're like, Okay, that's impressed. And then you see this 575 00:26:11,200 --> 00:26:14,680 Speaker 1: and you're like, what was that? Yeah, it's a howitzer. 576 00:26:14,880 --> 00:26:17,959 Speaker 1: I mean, it's it's crazy good. To your point though, 577 00:26:17,960 --> 00:26:21,520 Speaker 1: about mobility, you know what's funny about that is when 578 00:26:21,600 --> 00:26:25,840 Speaker 1: we had the good offenses twenty nineteen through twenty twenty one, 579 00:26:26,520 --> 00:26:30,440 Speaker 1: Ryan Tannehill was running. Yeahn't wasn't twenty times a game, 580 00:26:30,600 --> 00:26:32,960 Speaker 1: wasn't ten times a game. It was always on third down, 581 00:26:33,160 --> 00:26:36,159 Speaker 1: third down, or in the red zone version or in 582 00:26:36,200 --> 00:26:38,600 Speaker 1: the red zone. I mean he in twenty twenty one 583 00:26:38,720 --> 00:26:40,560 Speaker 1: he rushed for seven touchdowns. 584 00:26:40,600 --> 00:26:42,480 Speaker 5: And what's a big number for a quarterback. 585 00:26:42,560 --> 00:26:45,400 Speaker 1: Well, yeah, especially for a guy he was a receiver. 586 00:26:45,600 --> 00:26:48,040 Speaker 1: It was the receiver first two years, yeah, so, but 587 00:26:48,160 --> 00:26:50,639 Speaker 1: then in twenty twenty two and twenty twenty three he 588 00:26:50,640 --> 00:26:55,000 Speaker 1: didn't run anymore, and so that aspect of it being 589 00:26:55,160 --> 00:26:57,439 Speaker 1: out was a was a big deal. Some of it 590 00:26:57,480 --> 00:26:59,840 Speaker 1: was due to an ankle, and I'm not blaming him, 591 00:26:59,840 --> 00:27:02,640 Speaker 1: but I agree, you've got to have somebody who can move. 592 00:27:03,280 --> 00:27:07,240 Speaker 1: Levis can move to He's not a runner per se, 593 00:27:07,840 --> 00:27:10,320 Speaker 1: But is he gonna be able to take off when 594 00:27:10,359 --> 00:27:13,200 Speaker 1: it opens up on third and ten and get your 595 00:27:13,200 --> 00:27:13,840 Speaker 1: fifteen yards? 596 00:27:13,880 --> 00:27:14,080 Speaker 2: Yeah? 597 00:27:14,160 --> 00:27:17,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, because he's got good speed and he's athletic. Now 598 00:27:17,680 --> 00:27:21,399 Speaker 1: we don't need him trying to run over people. Because 599 00:27:21,520 --> 00:27:26,920 Speaker 1: Levis's whole thing is his intensity is through the roof. 600 00:27:27,119 --> 00:27:30,399 Speaker 1: And that's one thing they've had to try to rein 601 00:27:30,520 --> 00:27:35,920 Speaker 1: in because at Kentucky things would go wrong and he 602 00:27:35,960 --> 00:27:39,240 Speaker 1: would kind of get down on himself and they had 603 00:27:39,280 --> 00:27:41,800 Speaker 1: to say, listen, this is the NFL, friend, I mean, 604 00:27:41,880 --> 00:27:45,520 Speaker 1: it's it's you are gonna throw a bad ball. I 605 00:27:45,520 --> 00:27:47,640 Speaker 1: mean you you are, I mean this is gonna happen. 606 00:27:47,720 --> 00:27:49,320 Speaker 1: You got to you gotta shake it off. And we 607 00:27:49,359 --> 00:27:51,960 Speaker 1: saw in a couple of instances where he made a 608 00:27:51,960 --> 00:27:54,680 Speaker 1: couple of bad plays the Miami game on Monday Night 609 00:27:54,800 --> 00:27:57,560 Speaker 1: where he made a couple of bad plays and yet 610 00:27:57,600 --> 00:27:59,880 Speaker 1: he came back and led the victory at the end, 611 00:28:00,400 --> 00:28:03,679 Speaker 1: which getting the victory was great and doing it, you know, 612 00:28:03,680 --> 00:28:05,639 Speaker 1: two touchdowns in the last four minutes, but to me, 613 00:28:06,280 --> 00:28:11,320 Speaker 1: the bigger thing was the way that he flipped it around. Yeah, 614 00:28:11,640 --> 00:28:14,639 Speaker 1: and you know, Pete Rose used to talk about a 615 00:28:14,680 --> 00:28:17,639 Speaker 1: lot of the success in hitting for him was if 616 00:28:17,720 --> 00:28:20,840 Speaker 1: you start zero for two or oh for three, and 617 00:28:20,920 --> 00:28:23,159 Speaker 1: you end up three for five, two for five or 618 00:28:23,160 --> 00:28:25,520 Speaker 1: three for five, you come back and you put the 619 00:28:25,640 --> 00:28:28,520 Speaker 1: earlier at bats out of the way, And I think 620 00:28:28,600 --> 00:28:31,840 Speaker 1: that's a lot of what he's having to learn. He's 621 00:28:31,920 --> 00:28:36,479 Speaker 1: super smart, I mean crazy smart. And remember he played 622 00:28:36,520 --> 00:28:39,560 Speaker 1: for pro style kind of guys at not only Kentucky 623 00:28:39,600 --> 00:28:43,400 Speaker 1: but also at Penn State. He's an older guy. You know, 624 00:28:43,440 --> 00:28:46,600 Speaker 1: he's not twenty one, he's twenty four, and so he's 625 00:28:46,600 --> 00:28:50,080 Speaker 1: seen a couple things. He's had a couple bad things happen, 626 00:28:51,640 --> 00:28:56,720 Speaker 1: and that actually helps. I think having the adversity, the 627 00:28:56,840 --> 00:28:59,920 Speaker 1: adversity of the NFL is the toughest thing for any play, 628 00:29:00,680 --> 00:29:03,120 Speaker 1: but at the quarterback position, it's like way up. 629 00:29:03,120 --> 00:29:05,440 Speaker 3: And how you overcome it? He said, how do you 630 00:29:05,480 --> 00:29:08,080 Speaker 3: bounce back from that. I'm curious about this with the 631 00:29:08,120 --> 00:29:11,440 Speaker 3: Titans though, because to me, and I don't know how 632 00:29:11,440 --> 00:29:13,560 Speaker 3: you guys feel, but I might have talked about this 633 00:29:13,640 --> 00:29:17,280 Speaker 3: last year. As an announcer, I gauge certain things. This 634 00:29:17,360 --> 00:29:21,240 Speaker 3: is one of my meters, my terror meter when that 635 00:29:21,280 --> 00:29:23,720 Speaker 3: player is on the field. And I had it with Peyton, 636 00:29:24,760 --> 00:29:26,960 Speaker 3: I had it with Steve McNair back in the day. 637 00:29:27,000 --> 00:29:31,320 Speaker 3: With the Titans playing quarterback, certain players, you know, terrify 638 00:29:31,480 --> 00:29:33,080 Speaker 3: you when they're on the field. 639 00:29:33,240 --> 00:29:34,840 Speaker 5: It's third and six, You're like, I know they're going 640 00:29:34,920 --> 00:29:35,280 Speaker 5: to get this. 641 00:29:35,320 --> 00:29:38,680 Speaker 3: I'm talking to offense here, and Dereck Henry is maybe 642 00:29:38,840 --> 00:29:41,080 Speaker 3: maybe he's the only non quarterback to fit this bill, 643 00:29:41,120 --> 00:29:44,640 Speaker 3: although Jonathan Taylor comes close. Derick Henry in the backfield 644 00:29:44,800 --> 00:29:47,880 Speaker 3: is frightening to me at any down, and we talked 645 00:29:47,880 --> 00:29:49,480 Speaker 3: about this last week. Why even take him off the 646 00:29:49,520 --> 00:29:51,200 Speaker 3: field on third down? I don't to wear him out, 647 00:29:51,200 --> 00:29:54,320 Speaker 3: but just leave him on the field. He's frightening. The 648 00:29:54,400 --> 00:29:57,040 Speaker 3: defense doesn't always do what the defense doesn't want. 649 00:29:57,160 --> 00:29:58,440 Speaker 2: They don't want to see Derek Henry. 650 00:29:58,480 --> 00:30:01,520 Speaker 6: Ever, I always said that the Titans do everybody a 651 00:30:01,560 --> 00:30:02,920 Speaker 6: favor by taking Derrick Henry Off. 652 00:30:03,120 --> 00:30:04,600 Speaker 5: Yeah, okay, great, thank you. 653 00:30:04,840 --> 00:30:07,719 Speaker 6: I know you know spears can catch the ball, but listen, 654 00:30:08,080 --> 00:30:10,680 Speaker 6: it should be a running down third and five or less. 655 00:30:10,880 --> 00:30:12,200 Speaker 2: Right, he can pick it up, right. 656 00:30:12,240 --> 00:30:15,560 Speaker 1: Well, our problem was we weren't getting to third and five. Sure, ye, 657 00:30:15,800 --> 00:30:19,560 Speaker 1: Well that's what has crushed us the last two years 658 00:30:19,880 --> 00:30:23,040 Speaker 1: is everybody would put fourteen guys in the box on 659 00:30:23,160 --> 00:30:26,880 Speaker 1: first down, and so you were lucky if you got 660 00:30:26,880 --> 00:30:29,160 Speaker 1: back to the line of scrimmager. You gained a yard. 661 00:30:29,760 --> 00:30:33,960 Speaker 1: And then you're in a situation. And if it wasn't 662 00:30:34,080 --> 00:30:37,160 Speaker 1: second and twelve, if it was really second and nine, 663 00:30:37,200 --> 00:30:39,960 Speaker 1: they might run him again, and it might be third 664 00:30:40,000 --> 00:30:42,040 Speaker 1: and four, and then third and four is of down. 665 00:30:42,080 --> 00:30:44,840 Speaker 1: You can do a lot of different things, especially when 666 00:30:44,880 --> 00:30:49,000 Speaker 1: Tannehill was running. And so now you know that element 667 00:30:49,120 --> 00:30:52,600 Speaker 1: is gone and you're in third and eight plus and 668 00:30:52,840 --> 00:30:56,000 Speaker 1: he's not a receiver. And the other thing, too, is 669 00:30:56,640 --> 00:30:59,960 Speaker 1: in Yulie or at Alabama, they would have been crazy 670 00:31:00,160 --> 00:31:02,280 Speaker 1: to spend a lot of time with him on pass protection. 671 00:31:03,840 --> 00:31:07,400 Speaker 1: So they so Derek's thing about pass protection. We all 672 00:31:07,440 --> 00:31:10,320 Speaker 1: know he's a tough guy. Nobody's saying he's afraid to 673 00:31:10,320 --> 00:31:14,800 Speaker 1: block anybody, but that's a fuel thing understanding where people 674 00:31:14,840 --> 00:31:16,040 Speaker 1: are going to be coming. 675 00:31:15,760 --> 00:31:17,239 Speaker 5: From a lot of guys can't do it. 676 00:31:17,280 --> 00:31:21,560 Speaker 1: Well, Taj Spears can't Taj Spears consense. Okay, the guy's 677 00:31:21,600 --> 00:31:23,880 Speaker 1: going to be coming from my right or I need 678 00:31:23,920 --> 00:31:26,520 Speaker 1: to step up here. He's got that. Derek was never 679 00:31:26,640 --> 00:31:29,760 Speaker 1: trained in that way. He's also not a receiver who 680 00:31:29,840 --> 00:31:34,040 Speaker 1: runs ten routes. He basically runs a screen pass and 681 00:31:34,080 --> 00:31:37,480 Speaker 1: then some sort of swing or whatever. And so from 682 00:31:37,560 --> 00:31:40,520 Speaker 1: that standpoint, that's when when it was third and seven 683 00:31:40,640 --> 00:31:42,600 Speaker 1: or more he had to come off them. 684 00:31:42,680 --> 00:31:43,120 Speaker 2: Yeah. 685 00:31:43,240 --> 00:31:45,479 Speaker 4: Well, let me tell you about you fearing Dereck Henry. 686 00:31:45,920 --> 00:31:49,760 Speaker 4: Let me give you a scenario. It's the last game 687 00:31:49,800 --> 00:31:52,640 Speaker 4: of the year. Everybody says he's over the hill, although 688 00:31:52,680 --> 00:31:55,160 Speaker 4: he's second in the league in rushing. No, he's not 689 00:31:55,280 --> 00:31:58,360 Speaker 4: coming back. It's his last game ever. The whole the 690 00:31:58,400 --> 00:32:01,320 Speaker 4: whole city of Nashville is out citizen of Nationals at 691 00:32:01,320 --> 00:32:03,440 Speaker 4: the game. Okay, old game I've ever seen with eight 692 00:32:03,480 --> 00:32:06,400 Speaker 4: million people at the game, and they're all Derrick Henry fans. 693 00:32:07,040 --> 00:32:09,560 Speaker 4: You could feel it, I'm telling you. When you're the 694 00:32:09,560 --> 00:32:12,040 Speaker 4: Playboy play guy of the other team where he's from. 695 00:32:13,080 --> 00:32:15,640 Speaker 4: And so he's from our Mike. I could feel that. 696 00:32:15,840 --> 00:32:18,040 Speaker 4: I know, I was nervous when I saw him to 697 00:32:18,120 --> 00:32:20,680 Speaker 4: come out and he's celebrated. I'm like, it was kind 698 00:32:20,680 --> 00:32:23,960 Speaker 4: of a days you just I'm telling you, Matt, you 699 00:32:24,040 --> 00:32:26,960 Speaker 4: felt it before the game started. Not not I didn't 700 00:32:26,960 --> 00:32:29,520 Speaker 4: if we're gonna lose better, but Derrick Henry was gonna 701 00:32:29,520 --> 00:32:30,040 Speaker 4: go nuts. 702 00:32:30,200 --> 00:32:33,160 Speaker 2: You just you just had did you have that fat? 703 00:32:33,400 --> 00:32:35,920 Speaker 2: It was? And I mean, and we got to be 704 00:32:35,960 --> 00:32:38,680 Speaker 2: the other team. Okay, so where he's from, you know 705 00:32:38,680 --> 00:32:40,960 Speaker 2: what I mean. Unfortunately you were the Washington general. 706 00:32:42,800 --> 00:32:45,280 Speaker 4: And I remember thinking this is I mean, that's how 707 00:32:45,400 --> 00:32:47,720 Speaker 4: But to your point about fearing, I agree, that's a 708 00:32:47,720 --> 00:32:51,000 Speaker 4: great description because here we go and I think the 709 00:32:51,040 --> 00:32:54,600 Speaker 4: first carrier to him like and and your line wasn't 710 00:32:54,680 --> 00:32:57,720 Speaker 4: very good, but they blocked like the greatest line of 711 00:32:57,720 --> 00:33:00,080 Speaker 4: all time that day because they're blocking for Derek. 712 00:33:00,000 --> 00:33:02,560 Speaker 1: You're blocking for Derrick Henry and they know he had 713 00:33:02,680 --> 00:33:05,760 Speaker 1: you know, they know they understood what it was. 714 00:33:05,840 --> 00:33:08,400 Speaker 2: And I really feel that it was. 715 00:33:09,440 --> 00:33:12,959 Speaker 1: I mean, for us as broadcasters, you love to do 716 00:33:13,080 --> 00:33:17,040 Speaker 1: players like this because it's like, this is gonna be 717 00:33:17,040 --> 00:33:20,120 Speaker 1: a Hall of Fame player his five years. If you 718 00:33:20,240 --> 00:33:24,960 Speaker 1: take from the Jacksonville game on the Thursday night December sixth, 719 00:33:25,160 --> 00:33:29,120 Speaker 1: twenty eighteen. Through the end of last season, there have 720 00:33:29,280 --> 00:33:32,440 Speaker 1: not been five other running backs have a five years 721 00:33:32,960 --> 00:33:34,600 Speaker 1: like he did in NFL history. 722 00:33:35,480 --> 00:33:36,200 Speaker 5: I mean, that does it. 723 00:33:36,880 --> 00:33:41,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, you're talking about Jim Brown, talking about OJ Simpson, 724 00:33:41,280 --> 00:33:45,440 Speaker 1: You're talking about Ladanian, Tomlinson, Adrian Peterson. I mean, to 725 00:33:45,640 --> 00:33:50,040 Speaker 1: average over one hundred yards rushing per game for over 726 00:33:50,160 --> 00:33:53,880 Speaker 1: five years is crazy. The most two hundred yard games 727 00:33:53,920 --> 00:33:57,440 Speaker 1: in NFL history, a two thousand season, I mean, all 728 00:33:57,440 --> 00:33:59,760 Speaker 1: of those. One of the greatest ever, one of the greatest. 729 00:34:00,080 --> 00:34:02,840 Speaker 1: And so you're sitting here and you're thinking, how blessed 730 00:34:02,840 --> 00:34:06,440 Speaker 1: am I that I have gotten to call these plays? 731 00:34:07,000 --> 00:34:09,880 Speaker 1: I mean, what a gift this is. And then in 732 00:34:09,960 --> 00:34:12,200 Speaker 1: this moment, I mean, you understand the Titans are in 733 00:34:12,280 --> 00:34:16,160 Speaker 1: a different place. Derek's at a different place. I mentioned earlier, 734 00:34:16,560 --> 00:34:20,000 Speaker 1: you're resetting your cap for the first time in your history, 735 00:34:20,120 --> 00:34:23,200 Speaker 1: in a Broadway with a lot of new people. Ran 736 00:34:23,320 --> 00:34:26,440 Speaker 1: Carthon didn't bring him in. Bran Callahan's never coached him. 737 00:34:26,760 --> 00:34:30,200 Speaker 1: Chad Brinker, the president football Operations, has no tied to 738 00:34:30,239 --> 00:34:31,880 Speaker 1: I mean, it's all and he plays running back and 739 00:34:31,920 --> 00:34:35,879 Speaker 1: he's getting and he plays running back, a position that sucks. Well, 740 00:34:35,920 --> 00:34:39,080 Speaker 1: it does, it does, but it is a devalued position. 741 00:34:39,920 --> 00:34:41,880 Speaker 1: It's the world we're in. It starts with the seven 742 00:34:41,920 --> 00:34:44,600 Speaker 1: on seven with the high school kids. There's no Dereck 743 00:34:44,680 --> 00:34:49,160 Speaker 1: Henry plays seven on seven. So it's there. So you're 744 00:34:49,200 --> 00:34:54,520 Speaker 1: walking into Nissan Stadium that day and you're saying this 745 00:34:54,640 --> 00:34:57,560 Speaker 1: is going to be special. Yeah, because there you hit it. Frank, 746 00:34:57,880 --> 00:35:00,319 Speaker 1: there's no way that crowd should have been what it 747 00:35:00,480 --> 00:35:01,120 Speaker 1: was that day. 748 00:35:01,960 --> 00:35:03,879 Speaker 5: There's no they it was like a bold game. 749 00:35:04,719 --> 00:35:08,160 Speaker 1: Well, it is a moment. It's an athlete has bonded 750 00:35:08,280 --> 00:35:12,280 Speaker 1: with a city over an eight year period and there's 751 00:35:12,360 --> 00:35:15,520 Speaker 1: such respect for him. He's a Heisman Trophy winner and 752 00:35:16,640 --> 00:35:18,960 Speaker 1: he's a great dude. And the other thing too. At 753 00:35:19,000 --> 00:35:22,799 Speaker 1: the trade deadline in twenty eighteen, when he was the 754 00:35:22,840 --> 00:35:25,759 Speaker 1: Titans third string running back because he was in a 755 00:35:25,800 --> 00:35:29,720 Speaker 1: horrible slump, they couldn't find anybody that wanted to trade 756 00:35:29,760 --> 00:35:30,280 Speaker 1: for him. 757 00:35:31,040 --> 00:35:31,480 Speaker 2: Wow. 758 00:35:31,680 --> 00:35:34,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, and what this is twenty eighteen, So it's DeMarco 759 00:35:34,400 --> 00:35:35,080 Speaker 3: Murray still there? 760 00:35:35,160 --> 00:35:39,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, Well, at this point it's Deon Lewis. Okay, So 761 00:35:39,640 --> 00:35:43,359 Speaker 1: Dion Lewis is the first string running back David Fluellen 762 00:35:44,040 --> 00:35:49,520 Speaker 1: is getting snaps over Dereck Henry. At this point, Derek 763 00:35:49,640 --> 00:35:51,320 Speaker 1: is is just he's in a slump. 764 00:35:51,360 --> 00:35:53,040 Speaker 5: And Lafloor is the offensive coordinator. 765 00:35:53,120 --> 00:35:56,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, and I mean listen, they weren't making a mistake 766 00:35:56,880 --> 00:36:00,400 Speaker 1: not playing him, and they couldn't figure out how to 767 00:36:00,400 --> 00:36:03,080 Speaker 1: get him going. Well, what does this guy do? He's 768 00:36:03,120 --> 00:36:06,000 Speaker 1: this big star, He's the all time leading rusher in 769 00:36:06,120 --> 00:36:10,560 Speaker 1: high school history. He's a Heisman Trophy where he's Derrick Henry. 770 00:36:10,640 --> 00:36:14,359 Speaker 1: He's on the Nissan commercials. Everybody knows Derrick Henry. And man, 771 00:36:14,400 --> 00:36:17,600 Speaker 1: he that dude's in the tank. And what does he do? 772 00:36:17,719 --> 00:36:20,440 Speaker 1: He runs with the scout team, he goes to he 773 00:36:20,480 --> 00:36:23,040 Speaker 1: does he gets with the running back coach, He gets 774 00:36:23,080 --> 00:36:25,600 Speaker 1: with the running back coach and spends time, and he 775 00:36:25,680 --> 00:36:27,880 Speaker 1: keeps working and working there like you have to press 776 00:36:27,920 --> 00:36:30,280 Speaker 1: the hole this way. We know you've never done it before, 777 00:36:30,400 --> 00:36:33,000 Speaker 1: but you've got to learn this. And then that Thursday 778 00:36:33,080 --> 00:36:36,439 Speaker 1: night game happens where he rushes for two thirty eight 779 00:36:36,480 --> 00:36:38,680 Speaker 1: in the ninety nine yard run and the four touchdowns 780 00:36:38,680 --> 00:36:40,400 Speaker 1: stiff arms half the city. 781 00:36:40,160 --> 00:36:41,319 Speaker 2: Yea, but I. 782 00:36:44,440 --> 00:36:47,759 Speaker 1: Started I'm not saying not saying this to hurt you, 783 00:36:47,800 --> 00:36:53,560 Speaker 1: I promise, But that night was such a revelation. You're like, 784 00:36:53,920 --> 00:36:57,440 Speaker 1: this all just Changedah. And so then for five years, 785 00:36:58,000 --> 00:37:00,560 Speaker 1: there's never there has in rare instant is in the 786 00:37:00,640 --> 00:37:03,719 Speaker 1: NFL history. There's never been anything like it. And then 787 00:37:04,160 --> 00:37:06,920 Speaker 1: fast forward a little, you know, five years in a month, 788 00:37:07,520 --> 00:37:10,640 Speaker 1: and you come out for that game and you just know, 789 00:37:11,719 --> 00:37:14,480 Speaker 1: you just know, didn't know we were gonna win. Yeah, 790 00:37:14,640 --> 00:37:16,680 Speaker 1: had no idea if we could win the ball game. 791 00:37:17,120 --> 00:37:21,319 Speaker 1: But it's like today, this is gonna be special. And 792 00:37:21,360 --> 00:37:27,200 Speaker 1: it was a it was a unique experience, if that's it. Yeah, 793 00:37:27,280 --> 00:37:29,400 Speaker 1: it was a great Scentuff took the mic at the 794 00:37:29,480 --> 00:37:31,040 Speaker 1: end of the game back the crowd. 795 00:37:32,000 --> 00:37:34,680 Speaker 3: I mean, you just it looked like a send off, 796 00:37:34,920 --> 00:37:37,480 Speaker 3: and it did felt like one. And our fans in 797 00:37:37,560 --> 00:37:40,880 Speaker 3: Houston go get Derek Henry on all the talk radio, 798 00:37:41,640 --> 00:37:45,720 Speaker 3: Get Derrick Henry or you know, they might watch Sakwan Barkley. 799 00:37:45,800 --> 00:37:48,280 Speaker 3: You know how fans are. It's free agency. It's sirs, 800 00:37:48,320 --> 00:37:51,280 Speaker 3: get the most expensive car. But I get it because 801 00:37:51,320 --> 00:37:51,920 Speaker 3: he'd be awesome. 802 00:37:52,000 --> 00:37:53,439 Speaker 2: Yeah. Let me let me tie it all back. 803 00:37:53,480 --> 00:37:56,640 Speaker 6: And I'm gonna sabotage the podcast because this is only 804 00:37:56,680 --> 00:37:59,400 Speaker 6: we care about this. But the press release, the Titans 805 00:37:59,400 --> 00:38:01,880 Speaker 6: press release. You guys all read the press release. I 806 00:38:01,920 --> 00:38:04,200 Speaker 6: scour the press release. I'm a big dork. I read 807 00:38:04,200 --> 00:38:06,680 Speaker 6: it word for word. But Derrick Henry and the Titans 808 00:38:06,719 --> 00:38:09,480 Speaker 6: press release is the biggest beast of all time, and 809 00:38:09,560 --> 00:38:13,520 Speaker 6: it changes every single week because there's another milestone, there's 810 00:38:13,520 --> 00:38:17,840 Speaker 6: another ageous So from that standpoint, I'm looking forward to 811 00:38:17,880 --> 00:38:21,080 Speaker 6: not having to prepare on a weekly basis. 812 00:38:20,719 --> 00:38:21,040 Speaker 5: For dear. 813 00:38:21,160 --> 00:38:22,919 Speaker 3: I used to feel that way about the Colts release 814 00:38:22,960 --> 00:38:26,160 Speaker 3: when Peyton there's a whole book on Peyton Manning within 815 00:38:26,239 --> 00:38:29,280 Speaker 3: the press release, and I'm thinking, I'm just gonna saysies 816 00:38:29,320 --> 00:38:30,040 Speaker 3: a gentleman. 817 00:38:29,760 --> 00:38:31,399 Speaker 5: It's Peyton man quarterback today. 818 00:38:31,400 --> 00:38:33,160 Speaker 2: That's all you do, and that's ultimately what you end 819 00:38:33,239 --> 00:38:33,680 Speaker 2: up doing. 820 00:38:33,719 --> 00:38:35,640 Speaker 6: But the thing about the press release that I was 821 00:38:35,719 --> 00:38:38,120 Speaker 6: so always just taken aback by when it comes to 822 00:38:38,160 --> 00:38:41,279 Speaker 6: Derrick Henry. Yes, the two thousand yard seasons and all that, 823 00:38:41,320 --> 00:38:44,000 Speaker 6: but the fourth quarter rushing that always stood out to 824 00:38:44,040 --> 00:38:48,320 Speaker 6: me like the best fourth quarter rushing running back in 825 00:38:48,360 --> 00:38:51,360 Speaker 6: the last five years, more fourth quarter rushing yards than anybody. 826 00:38:51,440 --> 00:38:53,279 Speaker 3: And by the way, I was the biggest Titans fan 827 00:38:53,320 --> 00:38:56,040 Speaker 3: of the world that day. It's weird within our division 828 00:38:56,239 --> 00:38:58,479 Speaker 3: when you have to root for an AFC South team 829 00:38:58,560 --> 00:39:02,000 Speaker 3: because you know, I love you guys for us. Yeah, 830 00:39:02,120 --> 00:39:04,120 Speaker 3: you're rooting for the Titans. Is very weird, you know. 831 00:39:04,200 --> 00:39:05,680 Speaker 3: But I was like, go to it tight. 832 00:39:05,800 --> 00:39:08,040 Speaker 6: You know, it's funny about all of this. I didn't 833 00:39:08,080 --> 00:39:10,239 Speaker 6: watch any I didn't watch a minute of that game. 834 00:39:10,360 --> 00:39:13,840 Speaker 6: Oh really, Oh, because you were lost the day before. 835 00:39:13,960 --> 00:39:16,319 Speaker 6: I understand, I was working. That was the whole like 836 00:39:16,360 --> 00:39:18,960 Speaker 6: clean out your locker day. Like I was, oh, yeah, 837 00:39:19,000 --> 00:39:21,239 Speaker 6: you were working. So I didn't watch a minute of 838 00:39:21,280 --> 00:39:22,759 Speaker 6: that game. I listened to you on my way to 839 00:39:22,800 --> 00:39:24,879 Speaker 6: the compound. Thank you, But that was it. I think 840 00:39:24,880 --> 00:39:27,360 Speaker 6: it's you were the one. It's good for the division. 841 00:39:27,440 --> 00:39:30,560 Speaker 3: That year prior, we had the Saturday night championship game 842 00:39:30,600 --> 00:39:34,120 Speaker 3: with Jacksonville, Tennessee, and then the Coltston Texans play for 843 00:39:34,400 --> 00:39:36,080 Speaker 3: not the division, but it turned out to be for 844 00:39:36,120 --> 00:39:37,520 Speaker 3: the division, but it was a playoff. 845 00:39:37,760 --> 00:39:38,399 Speaker 2: Yeah, it was cool. 846 00:39:38,400 --> 00:39:40,600 Speaker 5: It's like Saturday night AFC South showcase. 847 00:39:41,120 --> 00:39:43,439 Speaker 2: I love it that they're doing that now. I think 848 00:39:43,520 --> 00:39:44,560 Speaker 2: that is so smart. 849 00:39:44,640 --> 00:39:47,000 Speaker 4: And I love the fact that that, you know, listen, 850 00:39:47,120 --> 00:39:50,759 Speaker 4: our division hasn't been the marquee division man, and and 851 00:39:50,840 --> 00:39:52,200 Speaker 4: we're headed there again. 852 00:39:52,320 --> 00:39:53,920 Speaker 2: If Trevor is what I think he is, I think 853 00:39:53,960 --> 00:39:55,239 Speaker 2: you're right. If if C. J. 854 00:39:55,360 --> 00:39:57,719 Speaker 4: Strouds what it looks like he obviously is, and two 855 00:39:57,800 --> 00:40:01,040 Speaker 4: young quarterbacks and the coaches too, Yeah, yes, I mean 856 00:40:01,040 --> 00:40:03,160 Speaker 4: I think right now we are in a weird the 857 00:40:03,280 --> 00:40:06,160 Speaker 4: golden age of this division. I don't really hear that, 858 00:40:06,239 --> 00:40:08,239 Speaker 4: and that's really exciting for all of us. 859 00:40:08,320 --> 00:40:10,680 Speaker 3: Here's the problem, though, problem I'll put that in air 860 00:40:10,719 --> 00:40:14,879 Speaker 3: quotes or whatever. There hasn't been a Super Bowl winner, right, 861 00:40:15,040 --> 00:40:17,040 Speaker 3: We've got to get a super. 862 00:40:16,719 --> 00:40:19,400 Speaker 5: Bowl winner or two would be great out. 863 00:40:19,280 --> 00:40:19,840 Speaker 2: Of this division. 864 00:40:19,880 --> 00:40:22,880 Speaker 3: Because people talk about the really tough divisions in football, 865 00:40:22,920 --> 00:40:25,640 Speaker 3: and you look at the AFC West, the Chiefs elevate 866 00:40:25,680 --> 00:40:28,360 Speaker 3: the entire division, no matter how bad the other teams 867 00:40:28,400 --> 00:40:31,600 Speaker 3: are or okay or whatever they are, right, they elevate 868 00:40:31,640 --> 00:40:34,920 Speaker 3: the entire division. You look at the NFC East, well, 869 00:40:34,920 --> 00:40:37,759 Speaker 3: the Eagles in recent years have elevated that division. I 870 00:40:37,760 --> 00:40:39,520 Speaker 3: know the Cowboys have won a lot of regular season 871 00:40:39,520 --> 00:40:43,319 Speaker 3: games lately, but I think with the AFC South, we 872 00:40:43,320 --> 00:40:44,799 Speaker 3: were on a run for a while when it was 873 00:40:44,800 --> 00:40:47,719 Speaker 3: still six teams going from each conference where you'd get 874 00:40:47,719 --> 00:40:51,320 Speaker 3: two in from the division annually, right, and it was 875 00:40:51,360 --> 00:40:54,600 Speaker 3: flipping around a little bit, And Matt pointed this out yesterday, 876 00:40:54,600 --> 00:40:57,160 Speaker 3: So I'm not putting salt in the wound. The Colts 877 00:40:57,200 --> 00:40:59,680 Speaker 3: have not won the division since twenty fourteen, right, right, 878 00:41:00,719 --> 00:41:03,759 Speaker 3: But since everybody else has won it twice at least twice. Yeah, 879 00:41:03,760 --> 00:41:06,520 Speaker 3: and the Texans have won it more than anybody since then. 880 00:41:07,360 --> 00:41:10,280 Speaker 3: Yet the Texans are the only one in the division 881 00:41:10,320 --> 00:41:13,320 Speaker 3: to not make it to the AFC Championship Game. The 882 00:41:13,440 --> 00:41:15,520 Speaker 3: Jags have been, the Titans have been, The Colts went 883 00:41:15,600 --> 00:41:19,720 Speaker 3: in twenty fourteen, So it's weird kind of it's horrible 884 00:41:19,760 --> 00:41:21,280 Speaker 3: for the Texans that they haven't been to an AFC 885 00:41:21,360 --> 00:41:24,200 Speaker 3: Championship game, the Titans. The Oilers were the last team 886 00:41:24,200 --> 00:41:26,640 Speaker 3: to do it in nineteen seventy nine. So we have 887 00:41:26,719 --> 00:41:29,760 Speaker 3: those things going that kind of keep the division down. Plus, 888 00:41:29,880 --> 00:41:32,640 Speaker 3: if it's NFC East and everybody's five hundred ish, it's 889 00:41:32,640 --> 00:41:35,160 Speaker 3: still attractive because they're huge markets and it's Dallas and 890 00:41:35,200 --> 00:41:37,080 Speaker 3: New York and glitz and glamour and all that. 891 00:41:37,160 --> 00:41:39,120 Speaker 4: Despite all I agree with everything you said, I didn't 892 00:41:39,120 --> 00:41:41,960 Speaker 4: realize those numbers to you just read them out. But 893 00:41:42,000 --> 00:41:45,640 Speaker 4: we have it's still coaching quarterback more than it's ever been. 894 00:41:45,960 --> 00:41:48,680 Speaker 4: It's Beellateck and Brady and it's Andy Reid Mahomes. That's 895 00:41:48,719 --> 00:41:51,600 Speaker 4: who wins the championship. You can get to the game. 896 00:41:52,080 --> 00:41:54,560 Speaker 4: You're not in this day and age. You are not 897 00:41:54,640 --> 00:41:57,879 Speaker 4: winning it in this day and age without that. And 898 00:41:57,920 --> 00:42:00,399 Speaker 4: we have four franchises now that might have that that 899 00:42:00,400 --> 00:42:02,279 Speaker 4: that's the point I can tell you. I think we 900 00:42:02,360 --> 00:42:04,560 Speaker 4: got that. I think you got that mark. It looks like, 901 00:42:04,600 --> 00:42:07,200 Speaker 4: I mean, we have four franchises now. No, Lo, maybe 902 00:42:07,239 --> 00:42:08,960 Speaker 4: these young quarterbacks don't turn out to be all that. 903 00:42:09,120 --> 00:42:11,680 Speaker 4: Maybe Stroud as a sophomore slump and I'm wrong about 904 00:42:11,719 --> 00:42:13,960 Speaker 4: travoring the two young guys don't. But I don't think so. 905 00:42:14,560 --> 00:42:17,560 Speaker 4: And the point is we now might have that. Well 906 00:42:17,880 --> 00:42:20,840 Speaker 4: we had we as a collectively as a division, we 907 00:42:20,960 --> 00:42:22,439 Speaker 4: haven't had four franchises. 908 00:42:22,719 --> 00:42:25,400 Speaker 2: That's solid footing well those two spots, right. 909 00:42:25,440 --> 00:42:28,680 Speaker 1: So what I felt good about from our standpoint is 910 00:42:28,680 --> 00:42:32,880 Speaker 1: when Brian Callahan comes in initial press conference, he immediately 911 00:42:32,880 --> 00:42:35,440 Speaker 1: starts talking about Will Levis as the guy yeah, and 912 00:42:35,440 --> 00:42:39,160 Speaker 1: it's like, okay, now that's pretty good. Yeah, because he 913 00:42:39,160 --> 00:42:42,399 Speaker 1: didn't draft him right, and he's had some pretty good 914 00:42:42,440 --> 00:42:46,120 Speaker 1: quarterbacks around in his life, and. 915 00:42:45,520 --> 00:42:47,480 Speaker 5: He had a pretty good draft position right now. 916 00:42:47,640 --> 00:42:50,120 Speaker 1: And so yeah, I mean if if if we wanted 917 00:42:50,160 --> 00:42:52,440 Speaker 1: to take another one, we could right now. So for 918 00:42:52,560 --> 00:42:55,960 Speaker 1: him to come in and say, yeah, we're building around 919 00:42:56,000 --> 00:42:59,160 Speaker 1: this guy. And and while at the combine he makes 920 00:42:59,200 --> 00:43:03,960 Speaker 1: the comment we're going to get competition, veteran competition from 921 00:43:04,040 --> 00:43:08,000 Speaker 1: Malik Willis leaving out will Levis total like he's on 922 00:43:08,040 --> 00:43:08,840 Speaker 1: a different level. 923 00:43:08,920 --> 00:43:11,000 Speaker 2: It's like, oh, okay, and that's. 924 00:43:10,920 --> 00:43:14,040 Speaker 1: And you know, that's what you that's what you want, 925 00:43:14,080 --> 00:43:17,000 Speaker 1: because I mean it's quarterback play. You know, Dave McGinnis, 926 00:43:17,000 --> 00:43:19,440 Speaker 1: who I work with, says, if you don't have a quarterback, 927 00:43:19,480 --> 00:43:21,080 Speaker 1: you've got a highly paid rugby team. 928 00:43:21,640 --> 00:43:25,759 Speaker 7: And you know, I mean, today today's football, it's it. 929 00:43:26,080 --> 00:43:28,120 Speaker 7: I might steal that line. That's that I mean, in 930 00:43:28,160 --> 00:43:31,680 Speaker 7: today's football. That's yet. 931 00:43:31,760 --> 00:43:34,600 Speaker 5: Look how important the backup quarterback is. 932 00:43:34,960 --> 00:43:37,200 Speaker 3: And this past year was the year of the backup 933 00:43:37,280 --> 00:43:40,400 Speaker 3: and and the Colts almost win the division with Gardner 934 00:43:40,400 --> 00:43:43,359 Speaker 3: Minshew playing quarterback. Good quarterback, but come on, I mean 935 00:43:43,400 --> 00:43:45,520 Speaker 3: you almost he almost did it, you know, not only 936 00:43:45,560 --> 00:43:47,800 Speaker 3: made it, but with the result the next day. I 937 00:43:47,840 --> 00:43:50,440 Speaker 3: always say the universe changes with certain things. Maybe if 938 00:43:50,440 --> 00:43:52,680 Speaker 3: the Colts beat the Texans, maybe the Jags, I don't 939 00:43:52,719 --> 00:43:55,320 Speaker 3: know what happens, but you would have made the playoffs. 940 00:43:55,480 --> 00:43:57,799 Speaker 3: You know, one or two more throws get you there 941 00:43:57,800 --> 00:44:01,759 Speaker 3: with Gardner Minshew, You're you want the game with Bethard, right, 942 00:44:01,880 --> 00:44:04,640 Speaker 3: The Jags did so. The Jags won a game with CJ. Betherd, 943 00:44:04,680 --> 00:44:07,040 Speaker 3: a crucial game, the only win they had down the stretch. 944 00:44:07,800 --> 00:44:11,760 Speaker 3: Backups are so important. Yeah, I agree with coach McGinnis. 945 00:44:11,760 --> 00:44:13,720 Speaker 3: You know, you got to have one over the long stretch, 946 00:44:13,840 --> 00:44:15,960 Speaker 3: but you also need a backup. That's why I'm very 947 00:44:16,000 --> 00:44:18,360 Speaker 3: curious to know who the Colts backup is going to 948 00:44:18,400 --> 00:44:20,680 Speaker 3: be this year, because minshe's a free agent. 949 00:44:20,560 --> 00:44:22,280 Speaker 2: And the flank style of Anthony Richardson. 950 00:44:22,600 --> 00:44:25,520 Speaker 3: And look, the Texans had case Keenum defeat the Titans 951 00:44:25,520 --> 00:44:28,439 Speaker 3: and he must have it kind of game up there. 952 00:44:28,520 --> 00:44:30,480 Speaker 3: Got had to have had to at least split in 953 00:44:30,520 --> 00:44:32,799 Speaker 3: the games with Tennessee and Cleveland at the time. But 954 00:44:32,840 --> 00:44:35,200 Speaker 3: you needed the division wins, and you know, with the 955 00:44:35,200 --> 00:44:38,520 Speaker 3: playoff tie breakers, those division wins are extremely important. 956 00:44:38,520 --> 00:44:41,680 Speaker 6: They're to go back to Frank's point, That's the thing 957 00:44:41,680 --> 00:44:44,120 Speaker 6: that I think I'm most encouraged by with the Colts 958 00:44:44,239 --> 00:44:46,760 Speaker 6: talk about you got to have the coach, the play caller, 959 00:44:46,800 --> 00:44:50,920 Speaker 6: with Shane Stikeen's both and the quarterback, I think, excuse me, 960 00:44:51,000 --> 00:44:54,560 Speaker 6: I think Anthony Richardson learned a very valuable lesson as 961 00:44:54,600 --> 00:44:57,279 Speaker 6: a as a young guy. And he said this at 962 00:44:57,320 --> 00:44:58,759 Speaker 6: the end of the season, and I don't think it 963 00:44:58,840 --> 00:45:01,839 Speaker 6: was him being cocky or you know, over the top. 964 00:45:01,920 --> 00:45:05,280 Speaker 6: He's like, if I'm healthy, I think we're in the playoffs. 965 00:45:05,600 --> 00:45:09,160 Speaker 6: And I think that's more of an accurate statement than 966 00:45:09,520 --> 00:45:11,880 Speaker 6: not because of what we saw in terms of the 967 00:45:11,920 --> 00:45:13,080 Speaker 6: first month of the season. 968 00:45:13,440 --> 00:45:14,400 Speaker 2: So just like CJ. 969 00:45:14,520 --> 00:45:17,640 Speaker 6: Stroud dealing with the concussion, I think with him missing 970 00:45:17,680 --> 00:45:20,760 Speaker 6: all of that time, it's a very valuable lesson for him. 971 00:45:21,200 --> 00:45:24,279 Speaker 6: I'm very important to this franchise. And again that's not 972 00:45:24,440 --> 00:45:28,080 Speaker 6: him being cocky. We're gonna go as far as I'm 973 00:45:28,120 --> 00:45:31,960 Speaker 6: gonna go in terms of my availability. That's huge for 974 00:45:32,040 --> 00:45:35,759 Speaker 6: this team. But also too with the Colts on the 975 00:45:35,800 --> 00:45:39,040 Speaker 6: precipice of a playoff spot with Shane Steichen as the 976 00:45:39,080 --> 00:45:42,520 Speaker 6: play caller, the offensive mastermind, with a backup quarterback in 977 00:45:42,560 --> 00:45:46,480 Speaker 6: Gardner Minshew whose playing style is completely different from that 978 00:45:46,680 --> 00:45:50,359 Speaker 6: of Anthony Richardson gives you hope that this guy has 979 00:45:50,440 --> 00:45:53,839 Speaker 6: coached a lot of different styles, a lot of different quarterbacks, 980 00:45:54,040 --> 00:45:57,000 Speaker 6: and he's had success no matter what style he has 981 00:45:57,080 --> 00:45:57,560 Speaker 6: to deal with. 982 00:45:57,760 --> 00:46:00,359 Speaker 1: What I'm excited about from the Titans perspective to your 983 00:46:00,400 --> 00:46:05,719 Speaker 1: point about the backup quarterback, we can afford one. Yeah, yeah, yeah, 984 00:46:05,760 --> 00:46:07,960 Speaker 1: Well you did with minche Yeah, you know, and that's 985 00:46:08,000 --> 00:46:11,920 Speaker 1: a big deal. Because Joshua Dobbs wanted to stay in 986 00:46:12,040 --> 00:46:16,279 Speaker 1: Tennessee and was really trying to and the Titans really 987 00:46:16,320 --> 00:46:19,960 Speaker 1: wanted him to stay. Cleveland made him a two million 988 00:46:20,000 --> 00:46:25,640 Speaker 1: dollars guaranteed offer and then the traded them. They traded 989 00:46:25,719 --> 00:46:29,480 Speaker 1: him to Arizona. But the Titans very much would have left, 990 00:46:29,520 --> 00:46:32,520 Speaker 1: and they would have loved. Two million dollars is not exorbitant. 991 00:46:32,800 --> 00:46:36,040 Speaker 1: The Titans were so tight against the cap they could 992 00:46:36,080 --> 00:46:39,600 Speaker 1: not afford to pay a guy two million dollars guaranteed 993 00:46:40,719 --> 00:46:42,120 Speaker 1: in hopes that he didn't play. 994 00:46:42,480 --> 00:46:42,719 Speaker 2: Yeah. 995 00:46:42,920 --> 00:46:45,200 Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean that's insurance. 996 00:46:44,920 --> 00:46:45,640 Speaker 2: They couldn't have. 997 00:46:45,880 --> 00:46:48,240 Speaker 1: I mean, you know, we've all been there at different 998 00:46:48,280 --> 00:46:51,040 Speaker 1: times when we were young, buying car insurance. Yeah, we'd 999 00:46:51,080 --> 00:46:54,000 Speaker 1: love to buy the best, but we can't afford it. 1000 00:46:54,040 --> 00:46:56,960 Speaker 1: So We buy just what we can afford to get by, 1001 00:46:57,200 --> 00:47:00,920 Speaker 1: so we're legal. And that's where the Titans work this year. 1002 00:47:01,239 --> 00:47:04,280 Speaker 1: If they want to spend two million dollars three million 1003 00:47:04,320 --> 00:47:10,000 Speaker 1: dollars guaranteed on a savvy backup quarterback, they can do it, 1004 00:47:10,280 --> 00:47:11,600 Speaker 1: and I'm thankful for that. 1005 00:47:12,440 --> 00:47:15,920 Speaker 2: I have one off as we wrap here, what's the 1006 00:47:15,920 --> 00:47:16,480 Speaker 2: more wrapping? 1007 00:47:16,560 --> 00:47:22,120 Speaker 4: Well, wait a minute, who's running this year? What's the 1008 00:47:22,160 --> 00:47:24,319 Speaker 4: one or two things that the Titans need to do? 1009 00:47:25,400 --> 00:47:25,919 Speaker 4: Give me two. 1010 00:47:26,640 --> 00:47:28,640 Speaker 1: Well, they've got to fix the offensive line and they've 1011 00:47:28,640 --> 00:47:30,400 Speaker 1: got to add speed at wide receiver. 1012 00:47:30,680 --> 00:47:31,600 Speaker 4: Offensive line speed. 1013 00:47:32,480 --> 00:47:34,360 Speaker 3: Devin Singletary is a free agent, so they got to 1014 00:47:34,360 --> 00:47:37,040 Speaker 3: address running back and the running game. They have to 1015 00:47:37,120 --> 00:47:39,560 Speaker 3: run the ball consistently. They get the best season ever 1016 00:47:39,560 --> 00:47:41,680 Speaker 3: out of Devin Singletary. That was his best year ever 1017 00:47:41,960 --> 00:47:45,640 Speaker 3: over nine hundred yards, but he's a free agent. They 1018 00:47:45,680 --> 00:47:47,920 Speaker 3: got to figure out what they're doing because you have 1019 00:47:48,000 --> 00:47:50,839 Speaker 3: to take as great as CJ. Stroud played, you have 1020 00:47:50,920 --> 00:47:52,520 Speaker 3: to take some heat off of them. You want to 1021 00:47:52,560 --> 00:47:55,000 Speaker 3: be balanced, especially in that system that they're running. 1022 00:47:55,239 --> 00:47:57,600 Speaker 6: Two things, as it relates to the Colts missing the 1023 00:47:57,600 --> 00:48:00,440 Speaker 6: playoffs last year, I think that the two biggest things 1024 00:48:00,480 --> 00:48:03,479 Speaker 6: that that held him back were it's pretty easy. Big 1025 00:48:03,520 --> 00:48:06,000 Speaker 6: plays on offense, not enough and too many big plays 1026 00:48:06,040 --> 00:48:09,480 Speaker 6: allowed on defense. They had fifty one sacks last year, 1027 00:48:09,520 --> 00:48:12,080 Speaker 6: which was a franchise record. Yeah, and they actually finished 1028 00:48:12,120 --> 00:48:14,760 Speaker 6: top five in the NFL in sacks on defense. 1029 00:48:14,840 --> 00:48:17,560 Speaker 2: Wow. But it's just the timeliness, right. They don't have 1030 00:48:18,239 --> 00:48:19,400 Speaker 2: that guy. 1031 00:48:19,719 --> 00:48:22,480 Speaker 6: Yet, you know what I'm saying, Like Joey Bosa, Nick Bosa, 1032 00:48:22,560 --> 00:48:25,680 Speaker 6: TJ Watt, like the guy that in the high leverage 1033 00:48:25,680 --> 00:48:29,399 Speaker 6: situation games on the line, he's unblockable. The Colts don't 1034 00:48:29,440 --> 00:48:31,920 Speaker 6: have that guy yet, so they're still in search of that, 1035 00:48:32,920 --> 00:48:34,439 Speaker 6: trying to figure out what they're gonna do with Michael 1036 00:48:34,480 --> 00:48:37,120 Speaker 6: Pittman Junior. But I think the biggest things are stopped 1037 00:48:37,160 --> 00:48:39,319 Speaker 6: the big plays on defense, which we saw in Week 1038 00:48:39,360 --> 00:48:43,120 Speaker 6: eighteen with Nico Collins, and not enough big plays on offense. 1039 00:48:43,200 --> 00:48:45,720 Speaker 6: I think some of that boils down to Gardner Minshew 1040 00:48:46,040 --> 00:48:48,759 Speaker 6: versus Anthony Richardson because the big plays were there at 1041 00:48:48,760 --> 00:48:51,160 Speaker 6: the beginning of the season with ar but just trying 1042 00:48:51,200 --> 00:48:52,799 Speaker 6: to marry those two things together. 1043 00:48:52,960 --> 00:48:55,000 Speaker 2: We're all talking about stilling the same we go all day. 1044 00:48:55,000 --> 00:48:55,319 Speaker 2: I got. 1045 00:48:56,880 --> 00:48:59,200 Speaker 4: For Jackson, Yeah, but I will tell you for us, 1046 00:48:59,800 --> 00:49:02,680 Speaker 4: we have to get more physical. You saw it in 1047 00:49:02,680 --> 00:49:06,360 Speaker 4: that game. We have to get more physical. That's the 1048 00:49:06,440 --> 00:49:09,719 Speaker 4: thing on both lines of scrimmage. Now, look, it sound 1049 00:49:09,760 --> 00:49:12,240 Speaker 4: like I'm making excuses for him, but their offensive line 1050 00:49:12,320 --> 00:49:15,160 Speaker 4: was banged up all year. Devon Hamilton had a health 1051 00:49:15,200 --> 00:49:18,759 Speaker 4: issue that he was a fantastic two gap nose guard 1052 00:49:19,360 --> 00:49:21,280 Speaker 4: and two years ago and then he had health issue, 1053 00:49:21,360 --> 00:49:24,399 Speaker 4: was never himself fully Foughtocasi didn't play very well. So 1054 00:49:24,760 --> 00:49:27,600 Speaker 4: the lines of the big people. If you I want 1055 00:49:28,320 --> 00:49:32,400 Speaker 4: free agency draft, I want a bunch of poundage because 1056 00:49:35,080 --> 00:49:37,960 Speaker 4: because that's what the Jags need. More physicality. 1057 00:49:38,040 --> 00:49:40,440 Speaker 2: It's like the opposite of everybody else. That's what speed. 1058 00:49:40,520 --> 00:49:42,640 Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, well, and I think the Jags kind of 1059 00:49:42,640 --> 00:49:46,759 Speaker 4: have the periphery they need. They need physicality and got 1060 00:49:46,760 --> 00:49:48,399 Speaker 4: to be able to run it. Got to stop the run. 1061 00:49:48,400 --> 00:49:50,200 Speaker 4: It sound like a coach, but that's where they were. 1062 00:49:50,280 --> 00:49:52,680 Speaker 6: They don't have a physicality problem when they play the Colts. 1063 00:49:52,760 --> 00:49:54,920 Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, well, I hear you. You know what I mean. 1064 00:49:55,040 --> 00:49:57,000 Speaker 4: I do, I do, But that's that's that's the big 1065 00:49:57,040 --> 00:49:58,000 Speaker 4: thing I think for them. 1066 00:49:58,000 --> 00:50:00,120 Speaker 1: All Right, I've got to read this seat Geek is 1067 00:50:00,160 --> 00:50:02,680 Speaker 1: now the official ticketing partner of the Tennessee Titans. Whether 1068 00:50:02,719 --> 00:50:05,560 Speaker 1: you're buying or selling tickets to Titans games or any 1069 00:50:05,760 --> 00:50:08,120 Speaker 1: live event in Nashville, seat Geek is the place to 1070 00:50:08,160 --> 00:50:10,840 Speaker 1: do it. Seat Geek the new official ticketing partner of 1071 00:50:10,880 --> 00:50:14,920 Speaker 1: the Tennessee Titans. 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